seeleNightrose: which link?00:04
Nightroseseele: ?00:04
seeleNightrose: er.. that wasnt you00:04
Nightrosehehe ok00:04
seelesorry.. misinterpreted an @message00:04
seeleanyone know who _MMA_ is?00:17
rickspencer3Mixed Martial Arts?00:22
DaSkreechwhowas bot ?00:23
seeleno name00:23
seeleworks on ubuntu studio?00:23
DaSkreechAh I've spoken with him/her/script00:23
JontheEchidnaWas there a BIC for plasma again or something?00:24
ScottKYeah!  Another stack of rebuilds ....00:26
JontheEchidnaok, all of our plasmoids need rebuilds now00:26
JontheEchidnawe have a report for quickaccess00:26
DaSkreechThis is for 4.2 ?00:26
JontheEchidnaa report which I can't seem to un-private00:27
JontheEchidnaoh, there we go00:28
JontheEchidnaScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/110091/ <- quickaccess00:31
ScottKDid you test build it?00:31
ScottKJontheEchidna: Bump the build-dep so we know it's compiled against 4.2.0 on all archs.00:32
JontheEchidnaah, good thinking00:32
JontheEchidnakdebase hasn't been uploaded yet, has it?00:33
* seele notices the topic and wonders what it says00:33
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seeleabandon them and take your place?00:33
seeleRiddell: ^^ wha?00:33
rgreeningseele: you rok00:34
rgreeningseele: just read you blog re: CNS :P00:34
seelergreening: ah hah. thanks.00:35
rgreeninggreat read00:36
* JontheEchidna must agree00:37
Riddellseele: "above", it was the 250th Burns night yesterday :)00:37
Riddellseele: where's your upgrade test notes page?00:38
Riddellah, IntrepidKDE42Upgrades00:38
JontheEchidnaScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/110094/00:38
seeleRiddell: ooh, i remember you mentioning that. (doesn't mean i know what that means)00:40
ScottKJontheEchidna: It's not a no changes rebuild any more, is it?00:40
JontheEchidnayou're right. I'm not thinking tonight00:40
* ScottK slaps some sensibility into JontheEchidna...00:41
JontheEchidnaScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com/110097/00:44
ScottKSo is 4.2.0 kde4libs uploaded then?00:45
RiddellScottK: yes00:45
jjesse-dell9denver airports free wifi put ads in my firefox browse that sucks01:10
freeflyingjjesse-dell9: no free lunch :)01:11
jjesse-dell9freeflying: some free wifis in airports dont have ads in the browser you just watch one before you connect01:13
jjesse-dell9here i have to watch one before i connect and each page has an add in it01:13
* ScottK-palm notes a kde4libs 4:4.2.0-2 in Debian with a security patch in it. 01:27
freeflyingjjesse-dell9: ads for every page is really too much01:28
* ScottK-palm hopes we have it ....01:28
ScottK-palmvorian Riddell rgreening ...01:28
JontheEchidnaScottK: there is a plasma security patch in 0ubuntu101:29
JontheEchidnaer, ScottK-palm^01:29
freeflyingScottK-palm: using palm for irc? :)01:29
* ScottK-palm relaxes ....01:29
jjesse-dell9freeflying: its every page for every tab open in firefox that refresh continually01:29
ScottK-palmSee you later then.01:29
jjesse-dell9seele: holy long blog post batman01:44
jjesse-dell9seele: also very well written01:44
DaSkreechLet me read it01:46
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jjesse-dell9DaSkreech: stikll working on it?01:52
DaSkreechhaha doing groups on identica?01:54
DaSkreechseele: ok _MMA_ is in #kubuntu if you want to prod02:14
seeleno, he already prodded me. i was just trying to put a name to the nick02:15
DaSkreechseele: How upset should I be that your lengthy blog post in PDF format is smaller than an empty .doc file ?02:32
rgreeningDaSkreech: hahahahaa02:34
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ScottK-desktopseele: Cory Kontros (I think)03:02
ScottK-desktopCory I'm sure about and the last name is close.03:03
seeleoh right. i didn't know his irc nick03:04
* ScottK waves.03:12
ScottKAny uploading needing doing?03:13
DaSkreechOk read seele's blog :-)04:13
ScottKKDE 4.2.0 is all uploaded to Jaunty now.05:01
* ScottK watches the crushed buildd's....05:01
rgreeningScottK: next thing is to get Qt4.5 working.05:06
rgreeningI have a test build I am working on05:06
ScottKAre we planning on that for Jaunty?05:06
rgreeningwe want webkit from it to hopefully replace khtml as the default05:07
rgreeningat least it was on the plan at UDS05:07
rgreeningScottK: I think I will finally have a working kvirc build shortly. Test building again here (hopefuuly for final time)05:08
tarimariany kubuntu-experimental ppa developers here?06:54
stdinthere are several06:55
tarimarii have 4.2rc106:55
tarimarii have a problem some times, that all my desktop setup is lost, i mean plasmoid are lost, wallpaper settings lost..and i have to setup again06:55
tarimariwhy is that?06:55
tarimarinoone? :)07:07
tarimarihow i can put powerdevil at 4.2rc1?08:31
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stdincan I get a review on bug #257220 please?10:56
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257220 in qtparted "Qtparted launch error" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25722010:56
Riddellstdin: was that script not installed before?  what did the "install" file do?11:01
stdinRiddell: the install file did nothing, I don't think dh_install was called11:01
stdinand because it's only one file, may as well put it in the rules11:02
Riddellstdin: why was postrm removed?11:02
stdinRiddell: it's not11:02
stdinit was just duplicated, like it was pasted twice11:03
stdinsame with the qtparted-root file11:03
Riddellmm, yes11:03
Riddellstdin: well, looks good to me11:03
stdinI think it'll need to go into intrepid updates too11:05
Riddellstdin: go for it11:10
Riddellalthough qtparted is kindae broken itself11:10
stdinyeah, but we shouldn't break it more than it already is :p11:11
Tonio_hi there11:22
Tonio_am I the only one whose powerdevil plasma applet broke with 4.2 ?11:22
Tonio_rgreening: just uploaded a very new PNM...11:36
Tonio_rgreening: still buggy and still receives 10 commits a day, so let's test...11:36
cqhello, I have a weird X problem... I boot the machine, get to the login screen, log in, and the resolution is set too low. Then I click on system settings -> display, and hte display goes dark and then adjusts to the correct resolution...11:51
cqnext boot, same story.11:51
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rgreeningTonio_: great stuff13:22
rgreeningTonio_: where's it available to?13:22
rgreeningScottK: kvirc... https://launchpad.net/~roderick-greening/+archive13:23
DanielCan I get assistance with wubi here?13:30
freeflyingDaniel: its for developer13:32
freeflyingDaniel: move to kubuntu/ubuntu channle for help plz13:32
Tonio_rgreening: in the repos within a couple of hours13:37
rgreeningTonio_: PPA or regular ones?13:38
apacheloggersmarter: ping^213:43
apacheloggeranyone wanna do WOTM?13:44
rgreening_kvirc 4.0.0 baby :)13:53
rgreeningwhois rgreening_13:54
apacheloggercould have been more interesting :P13:54
rgreening_just testing the new build13:55
rgreening_not sure I like the defaults...13:56
rgreening_I definately needs a new theme :)13:58
apacheloggerrewrites ftw :D13:59
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rgreeningScottK: kvirc 4 build seems to work fine (in my limited testing).14:03
apacheloggerRiddell: didn't you want to SRU bug 29209814:03
ubottuLaunchpad bug 292098 in kubuntu-default-settings "okular can't presentation fullscreen" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/29209814:03
ScottKrgreening: When you're ready for kvirc, just ping me on #ubuntu-motu.14:09
rgreeningScottK: k. :)14:12
xerosishas anyone reported the akonadi library problems with krunner and kopete?14:13
apacheloggerthe what?14:13
xerosiskopete and krunner both crash with errors about akonadi symbols, wondering if it's just me or a known thing14:14
apacheloggerkubuntu version, kde version, akonadi version, any ppa?14:15
* apachelogger just threw his stress ball to the legals department -.-14:15
xerosisjaunty, 4.20, 4.1.96-0ubuntu2, no ppa14:15
apacheloggeroh, there it comes back14:15
apacheloggerxerosis: you might not be fully upgraded yet14:16
xerosisapachelogger: thanks, thought as much, couldn't see anthing in the build queue for akonadi though?14:16
apacheloggerno, but KDE :P14:16
Riddellapachelogger: the main issue is finding a fix for those already affected14:34
apacheloggerRiddell: do these settings get copied to kdehome?14:35
* apachelogger thinks a kconf_update could do the trick14:35
Riddellapachelogger: yes and you can't delete the file because kwin keeps it all in memory so you can only do it before KDE starts14:35
Riddellapachelogger: right, but that still needs some mildly clever scripting14:36
apacheloggerRiddell: couldn't we just drop the problem causing section .. I think we wouldn't need a script for that14:36
Riddellyou'd need something14:37
apacheloggerRiddell: IIRC the kconf_update files can contain a list of stuff that ought to be dropped as part of the update14:38
apacheloggerit's been a while since I looked at the readme though :)14:38
Riddelloh right, I thought they were just given a script to run14:40
apacheloggerthat is for the more advanced stuff ... but since nhandler is a perl haxx0r he could probably come up with something as well ;-)14:41
ScottKAny extragear up yet?15:04
RiddellI havn't even thought about it15:04
ScottK15 of the 16 plasmoids I uploaded last night stuck.  The 16th needed a new upstream that I just pushed.15:05
Riddellquestion is if we'll need to do that for intrepid too15:06
tarimariScottK: where did u upload? which repo?15:08
tarimariScottK: are they for 4.2?15:09
ScottKThey needed to be rebuilt against the 4.2.0 libplasma-dev15:09
apacheloggerRiddell: we will due to libplasma315:11
apacheloggernot sure if anything else is affected by lib changes15:11
apacheloggerwhich is also part of the reason why I want 4.2.0 to be in -experimental for starters15:11
tarimariapachelogger: what do u mean?15:13
tarimariScottK: which is the repo?15:13
ScottKtarimari: The Ubuntu one.15:14
apacheloggertarimari: I mean that we need to rebuild all plasmoids against the new libplasma15:14
tarimariapachelogger: you are right.15:15
tarimariso new kde 4.2 for interpid will be available till tomorrow at kubuntu-experimental, right?15:16
tarimarii have some problems: i have kubuntu 8.10 amd64 kde 4.2rc1, kernel 2.6.28.  problems:  1. when at kde i tell it to shutdown the computer, it works like logout. then at logging screen i must tell it again to shutdown.  2. it does not really shutdown. it tries only15:18
tarimarii had my laptop hot because it was at laptop bag for 1+ hour open. i thought it was closed but it was not shutdown. just black screen15:18
* a|wen wonders why kmail keeps crashing on him in kde 4.1.4 :(16:13
ScottKa|wen: Any post release svn commits that look interesting?16:14
JontheEchidnathey aren't planning on a 4.1.5 so I would think the chances are pretty low16:15
JontheEchidnayou never know though16:15
a|wenScottK: haven't looked ... was thinking about installing the kdepim-dbg package first16:15
ScottKJontheEchidna: There were a fair number of posts 3.5.10 commits that we used profitably.16:16
ScottKWho knows....16:16
Tonio_hi there16:16
tarimariJontheEchidna: hi! :) big day is today :) we are expecting from you :)...so you need some hours after kde 4.2 is officially released?16:16
a|wenScottK: my connection is however horribly slow and don't have the kde4.1 branch down so is gonna take a while in any case16:17
ScottKa|wen: No rush.16:17
* Tm_T slaps tarimari 16:17
tarimariTm_T: u follow me across channells? :D16:18
* Tonio_ noticed that kde4 is very sensitive to dbus restarts during upgrades... plasma crashed twice on my side16:18
Tm_Ttarimari: no, I am everywehre16:18
DaSkreecha|wen: Crashes for me in KDE 4.2 RC16:18
* a|wen excuses for spamming some people with wiki-update mails :)16:18
a|wenDaSkreech: yeah... 4.2 RC had some issued it seemed; was worse than beta2 for me16:19
DaSkreechMe too16:19
a|wenhope it is better in 4.2 final16:20
tarimariJontheEchidna: i ve put kubuntu-experiment kde4.2rc1, when i click shutdown i just get the login screen. this kde rc issue, or maybe another part of the system like the kernel? 2. my computer does not shutdown completely, is it also because of kde or kernel?16:20
tarimariif u dont know, i ll upgrade to new kde, and then i ll check again16:20
JontheEchidnatarimari: there is a ksmserver crash that makes it so that you can only return to the login screen16:20
JontheEchidnaI do not personally experience this bug so I cannot say if it is fixed16:21
JontheEchidna(basically if ksmserver isn't running you can only return to the login screen)16:21
tarimarilet me see16:21
tarimari2 processes run 1. krwrapper4 ksmserver 2.ksmserver16:22
tarimariJontheEchidna: what do u think about?16:23
rgreeningTonio_: ping16:23
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JontheEchidnaI dunno16:23
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tarimariJontheEchidna: where is log about that so that i can check for error messages?16:24
JontheEchidnamaybe /var/log/xsession-errors16:24
Arbytarimari: JontheEchidna I've been experiencing that log out bug on my laptop so it's not fixed16:24
JontheEchidnaok, that's the wrong location for the log I"m thinking of16:25
Arbyhaven't debugged it much though16:25
JontheEchidnaoh, ~/.xsession-errors16:25
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tarimariJontheEchidna: i didnt find anything that makes sense there. anyway no problem. let's see after final version16:28
* a|wen waits for kde-techbase to come back up16:28
Tm_Tits down?16:28
tarimariJontheEchidna: about powerdevil, you told me yesterday that it is inside a package. i installed that packages but no powerdevil is appeared. still there is kdeguidance here16:28
tarimariTm_T: are you also kubuntu-experimental developer?16:28
JontheEchidnaif kdebase-workspace is installed, you have powerdevil16:29
Tm_Ttarimari: depends on definition I guess16:30
tarimariJontheEchidna: it is installed but i see no powerdevil trayicon. why?16:31
JontheEchidnait doesn't have a tray icon16:31
JontheEchidnaat least not in the 4.2 version16:31
Riddellit does, it's just called Power Management16:31
JontheEchidnaI don't use it so I wouldn't know :P16:32
tarimariRiddell: no guidance is another thing.16:33
tarimarii hope it will be ok at final16:33
a|wenTm_T: up again now ... but died on me for some time16:36
Tm_Ta|wen: sure it wasn't your dns not quick enough with possible ip change?16:36
a|wenTm_T: gave me a nice kde-logo and a message about "technical problems"16:37
Tm_Tah, interesting16:37
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tarimariJontheEchidna: i want to complete that restore from backup but i want to select what i restore. Where i can find a list explaining what each file inside ~/.kde is?16:41
JontheEchidna there aren't any, but application configuration files are in ~/.kde/share/config16:42
JontheEchidnaand application data is in ~/.kde/share/apps16:42
tarimariJontheEchidna: hmm..thanks.. actually i mostly want to keep my kontact data16:43
JontheEchidna(wrong channel)16:44
apacheloggerNightrose: need any more help?16:46
Nightroseapachelogger: a faster PC would help16:47
* Nightrose kicks it16:47
apacheloggerNightrose: you have to feed it cookies16:47
apacheloggerworks for me16:47
* DaSkreech would work faster with cookies16:48
smarter_apachelogger: pong⁻¹16:59
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alleeMhmm after today update and login I get a black screen: only kdeinit klauncher kded4 knotifty4 is running.  Nothing more (ditto for a freshly created user)17:00
Riddellallee: jaunty?17:02
alleeRiddell: yeap.  Last updaet 10 min ago17:02
apacheloggersmarter: is it just my weird system or does kvkbd not work out of the box on 4.2?17:03
ScottKdid you get the rebuilt one?17:03
a|wenhmm, and now it is bugs.kde.org's turn to be down17:04
smarterapachelogger: I have to say, I didn't test it since quiet some times :p17:04
* smarter launches17:04
smarterseems to work well17:04
Riddellallee: I have no such problems17:05
apacheloggersmarter: it just flashes up but then apparently the theme gets placed upon it here17:05
smarterapachelogger: what do you do and what happens exactly?17:05
smarter(btw, thanks for the patch to the svn, didn't know this x-docbook thingy :p)17:05
apacheloggersmarter: in kdm!17:05
smarteroh, in kdm17:05
DaSkreechHallo to stem the questions is KDE 4.2 packages expected today for Kubuntu?17:05
smarterapachelogger: this is a known bug17:05
apacheloggerDaSkreech: today, tomorrow, never ... all very relative :P17:05
RiddellDaSkreech: jaunty is in now, intrepid probably in a few hours17:05
apacheloggersmarter: should be noted in the documentation I guess :P17:05
DaSkreechWell I want to relate!17:06
smarterapachelogger: it's noted in the README iirc17:06
smarterand the kde-apps page17:06
DaSkreechRiddell: sweet thanks I can tell some folks to go to bed then17:06
smarterI thought I would have time to fix it before Intrepid so didn't include it in the doc17:06
apacheloggersmarter: well, a kubuntu user will not read either one17:06
smarterapachelogger: which I've tried to solve with ossi(only KDM dev) for quiet sometimes, but we never found a perfect solution(given all the security problem and stuff)17:06
apacheloggeractually, I am wondering why kdm doesn't have a builtin firewall :P17:07
smarterhopefully, once I get less school work, I'll be able to work on a plasmoid port of kvkbd(sounds cool, no? :p)17:07
alleeRiddel: Only strange msg in .xsession-error seems to be: knotify4: Fatal IO error: client killed.   Full log and proc list  at:  http://paste.debian.net/27031/17:07
apacheloggersmarter: plasma is too unsecure for kdm :P17:07
smarterapachelogger: it's secure enough for kscreensaver17:07
rgreeningseele: ping17:07
smarterso it should be okay17:07
apacheloggerthere was a major issue just before 4.217:08
alleeRiddell: fixed.  For whatever reason kdebase-workspace-bin kubuntu-desktop  where removed during dist-upgrade :(17:10
* apachelogger is wondering what the difference between the base snapshot and current state on his 8.10 vbox is17:10
Riddellallee: hrm17:10
a|wenScottK: no kdepim crash fixes in the 4.1 branch after the tagging of 4.1.417:10
* a|wen notes that some of the commits mentions 4.1.5, so seems it might arrive17:11
a|wenScottK: here is the backtrace http://paste.ubuntu.com/110356/17:17
ScottKI guess file a bug a b.k.o and see how it comes out....17:18
* a|wen thinks it looks terribly much like the crash that started appearing for him in 4.2rc17:18
* ScottK thinks his brain is currently overfull to much to consider it in any detail.17:23
alleeNew user setup:  Home.desktop and Trash.desktop are in ~/Desktop.  But plasma panel includes same already. Strange.17:23
apacheloggerdoes plasma now come with default stuff for the desktop? Oo17:24
alleeapachelogger: yes17:29
a|wenargh... now websvn.kde.org is down; this is seriously not my day17:29
a|wencan anybody give me the revision number on the 4.1.96 tag?17:31
DaSkreecha|wen: is the svn itself down?17:31
a|wenDaSkreech: only websvn (i think)17:32
a|wenTm_T: i think so (master-eu.kde.org)17:33
Tm_Ta|wen: no, not you (:17:34
a|wenhehe, made sense in the context anyway ;)17:34
Tm_Tweird, but, possible17:35
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a|wenScottK: bug 31915 ... both the kde4.2rc1 and the kde4.1.4 crashes are attached17:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 31915 in grub "Latest grub package (0.97-1ubuntu4) breaks /sbin/grub-reboot" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/3191517:39
* a|wen can't copy ... bug 31915117:39
ScottKYou mean kde bug 3191517:39
ubottuLaunchpad bug 319151 in kdepim "kontact crashes when I select the gmail inbox folder" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31915117:39
ubottuError: Could not parse XML returned by KDE: timed out (http://bugs.kde.org/xml.cgi?id=31915)17:40
apacheloggerkde is broken17:40
apacheloggertoo many people had their konqueror on autorefresh every 15 seconds17:40
Tm_Tapachelogger: ouch17:40
ScottKRight, that's what the Gnome guys keep telling me17:40
a|wenapachelogger: yeah ... everything seems gone right now17:41
Tm_Tnah, they're pulled down due release I heard17:41
Tm_Twww.kde.org is up and working fine here17:42
apacheloggereither it was konqueror autorefresh, or suse lost connection due to heavy snow storm, or they are just turning off every non-essential thing of17:42
apachelogger-of I suppose17:42
a|wenScottK: you are welcome to report upstream + link to the bug if kde becomes online again ... else i'll do it sometime tomorrow17:42
ScottKOK.  I'll probably leave it for you.17:43
a|wenno problem17:45
a|wenwho is doing the news entry for kubuntu.org for the 4.2 release?17:52
tarimariput some fireworks17:53
tarimariso it is released! :)17:53
tarimariTm_T: you wrote the announcement at kde.org? ;)  first channel to be informed was here?17:54
tarimarii record 17:42:50 UTC17:54
smarter"KDE 4.2 (Codename: "The Answer")"17:54
smarterbest. codename. ever.17:54
Tm_Ttarimari: wasn't me17:55
tarimariit was first mentioned at this channel :42. what time was the announcement put at web?17:56
DaSkreechsmarter: ha ha :)17:56
* smarter wonders how many people won't get it :P17:56
tarimariTm_T: what time was it announced exactly? at which channel first?17:57
Tm_Tsmarter: well, there were Codename "Codename" also17:57
a|wenRiddell: kubuntu-experimental ppa has got signed packages now ... might be worth mentioning in the installation instructions for kde4.2 in intrepid?17:57
smarterTm_T: that one was cool too17:57
Tm_Ttarimari: it wasn't announced in channel first, but ~193017:57
tarimariyes it was annnounced in web first, but i mentioned that at kubuntu-devel was earlier announced thatn in kde-devel :) :)17:58
Riddella|wen: oh good point17:58
Tm_Ttarimari: false17:58
Tm_Ttarimari: 1937.25 < Tm_T> link in front page but no announcement article found17:59
tarimaricool :)18:00
claydohanyone seeing similar to these: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/110371/18:00
tarimariok...now it is a matter of minutes or hours to have the update? i m asking to do my hour plan18:00
apacheloggerminutes, hours, days, never ... all very relative18:01
Riddellclaydoh: what akonadi do you have installed?18:01
tarimariok i see it now at rss too :)18:01
tarimariok i must cron aptitude update every minute18:05
tarimarithanks to all kde devs18:05
tarimarito see when the update will come at kubuntu-experimental ppa18:05
claydohRiddell: akonadi-kde is 4.1.96,, server is 1.1.118:05
Tm_Twell, why you need to see it rightaway?18:05
* Tm_T don't see the point18:05
claydohbut kopete is 4.2 doh18:05
tarimarito fix the possible bugs18:05
tarimarii have buggy 4.2rc118:06
tarimarithat's the point18:06
Tm_Ttarimari: I see18:06
Riddellclaydoh: I guess you need to wait for the new akonadi-kde18:06
Riddellclaydoh: where is your akonadi-server from?18:06
tarimarii want to upgrade also some other machines.18:06
tarimarii want to celebrate it anyway :)18:06
tarimarii m expecting this for a month18:06
tarimarior maybe months18:06
tarimarithe first usable desktop in linux18:07
tarimarithe greatest of all18:07
claydohsorry Riddell, didn't realize the updates coming, I blame it on the meds, but I'd be wrong18:07
tarimari"the answer18:07
claydohI am running Jaunty btw18:07
Riddellclaydoh: hrm, kdepim hasn't built says it can't find libboost-dev18:09
Riddellclaydoh: I think that's build daemon strangeness18:09
a|weng'night ppl18:09
claydohnp. Riddell I should know better :)18:09
seelergreening: pong18:13
rgreeningseele: hey. ScottK is reviewing Kvirc (another IRC) for update to the KDE3 one. Not sure if you wanted to look at it (seeing you were looking at quassel)18:14
ScottKI'm pretty sure we don't want kvirc for default IRC client.18:14
ScottKIt's WAY too complex.18:15
rgreeningScottK: ok.18:15
rgreeningQuassel is easier to use?18:15
rgreeningI haven't tried it yet.18:15
rgreeningIs it uploaded as a standalone yet ScottK / seele (quassel) and which package is the standalone18:16
rgreeningI need to drop konversation18:16
ScottKJust plain quassel is the stand alone18:16
rgreeningScottK: ok, I'll give it a whirl18:16
ScottKIt's in Jaunty and in my PPA for Intrepid.18:16
rgreeningkk. ty18:17
* claydoh is writitng up a quick quassel standalone how-to18:18
claydohit has gotten much easier to set up recently18:18
DaSkreechseele: http://anotherubuntu.blogspot.com/2009/01/response-to-proposed-canonical.html18:19
apacheloggerNightrose: where is the irc party happening?18:21
quassel214quassel is weird :)18:23
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: is bug 289402 fixed yet? The debian changelog sez so18:24
* apachelogger thinks Nightrose passed out due to too much work18:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 289402 in kdebase-workspace "circular build dependency between kdebase-workspace and kde4bindings, broken on lpia and hppa" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28940218:24
Tm_TRiddell: thank you a million18:24
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: not on intrepid18:24
Tm_Tnow gone to sauna ->18:24
JontheEchidnaapachelogger: will it ever be? :P18:24
apacheloggerask rgreening :P18:24
* JontheEchidna migrates kde4bindings bugs to kdebindings18:25
ScottKclaydoh: You can thank Sput (and a bit of packaging stuff on my part) for it being easier.18:26
claydohScottK: and good work , too! many thanks!18:26
ScottKThe work Sput did made the packaging part easy.18:27
apacheloggerNightrose: a1ex sezs your blogpost's guide link is borked18:31
tarimarihow's going ?18:33
apacheloggerNightrose: nvm :P18:34
tarimarinothing yet at kubuntu-experimental18:35
Riddellstill testing18:35
ScottKExtragear tarballs are up, in case anyone is interested ...18:56
apacheloggerScottK: we can continue tomorrow :P18:58
apacheloggeror you, since I am technically on floss vacation already :P18:59
* Nightrose pokes apachelogger hard19:01
Nightrosethere is no thing like floss vacation!19:01
apacheloggerof course there is19:01
apacheloggerNightrose: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2006/09/timeoutlogger_25.html19:03
* apachelogger goes crazy with justice19:03
Nightrose2006 is so yesterday19:03
apacheloggeror "apachelogger geht verrückt" ... as russkaja would put it :P19:03
apacheloggerNightrose: so, where is the party?19:04
Nightrose~order party19:04
* kubotu gives everyone a party hat and a hand full of conffeti.19:04
* kubotu turns on tha most funky party music as well as the all shiny disco ball.19:04
kubotuNightrose: wanna dance with me? :-)19:04
* kubotu starts shaking her tight ass19:04
apacheloggerNightrose: no official IRC party?19:04
Nightroseand in stuttgart on friday!19:04
Nightroseapachelogger: nope19:05
apacheloggerno amarok radio?19:05
apacheloggeroh my starbase19:05
apacheloggerNightrose: ping19:18
Nightroseapachelogger: pong19:18
* apachelogger drives a whole truck filled with cookies up to Nightrose19:18
* Nightrose starts munching them19:19
apacheloggerNightrose: that ough to be enough for all of KDE19:19
apacheloggerNightrose: sharing!19:19
Nightroseawwww :(19:19
apacheloggerNightrose: whenever you see a nice contributor you like, you hand him a cookie19:19
apacheloggeror two19:19
apacheloggeror three19:19
* apachelogger hugs Nightrose and hands her ze most beautiful flowas19:19
apacheloggerawesome product19:19
apacheloggerawesome guide19:20
apacheloggerawesomeness all around19:20
apacheloggergod I love KDE19:20
* Nightrose uberhugs apachelogger19:20
smarterthe 4.2 tour is pretty cool19:27
* smarter didn't know dolphin now had tooltips on file :)19:28
Nightrose:) it was a s*tload of work to write that19:28
Nightrosemajor kudos to Jos and sebas19:29
DaSkreechWho are now home!19:35
* ScottK notes that he's started extragear.20:01
ScottKSomeone else ought to pick up with it ...20:01
* JontheEchidna takes konq-plugins20:06
* seele wonders if the roads are cleaned up from this morning20:09
JontheEchidnaKDE's ftp is being real slow20:10
apacheloggerJontheEchidna: how about using a mirror :P20:10
JontheEchidnagood idea20:10
JontheEchidnawhere do I find one?20:10
apacheloggerdownload.kde.org ought to list them20:11
apacheloggeror was it downloads.kde.org20:11
apacheloggersomething like that :P20:11
jussi01apachelogger: JontheEchidna and ninjas! Hows the 4.2 packaging going? :)20:22
apacheloggerwaiting for 2 builds20:23
JontheEchidnajussi01: btw, did you see that your bug got fixed :D20:25
jussi01ok, nice! didnt realise it was so close!20:25
jussi01JontheEchidna: which one?20:25
JontheEchidna"Kwin crashes when using Nvidia-settings"20:26
jussi01JontheEchidna: ahh, nice :) I saw the other one was fixed also. :)20:26
JontheEchidnaour xinerama problems should be over mainly20:27
jussi01JontheEchidna: excellent :)20:37
* jussi01 doesnt get people that enter, say hi, and leave...20:38
Riddellyay, kontact and amarok co-intallable20:51
jussi01Riddell: super! well done!20:51
JontheEchidnaand with no full-blown mysql servers too!20:51
JontheEchidnafor either20:51
rgreeningRiddell: ty ty ty ty ty ty ty :)20:51
jussi01so have the last 3 packages built then?20:51
rgreeningor whoever did it :)20:51
JontheEchidnajussi01: waiting on 2 now20:53
Riddellone compiled, two still going on20:53
jussi01can someone point me to the queue?20:54
Riddelljussi01: it's hidden, we've not moved them to a public PPA yet20:55
jussi01Riddell: ahh. curiousity, how long does the move to the public ppa take? mins? hours? days?20:56
jussi01excellent. thank you. :)20:57
DaSkreechat least one release cycle20:57
DaSkreechare we waiting for a kubuntu.org article to announce or can we announce in #kubuntu when ready?21:47
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stdinDaSkreech: the packages aren't in the ppa yet21:51
DaSkreechI'm aware21:51
DaSkreechthey need to be copied21:51
stdinand then I'd rather wait for kubuntu.org to put some instructions up, so I can put it in the topic21:52
DaSkreechI'm just asking if we are waiting on an article (which gets linked in the topic) or if once it's up we can tell people to grab em21:52
stdinthen update the bot's factoids...21:52
DaSkreechMe too21:52
DaSkreechbut people are staying awake just to get the packages21:52
stdinthey do realise the'll all get like 5 KB/s with all those people hitting the one server :p21:53
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nhandler_apachelogger: What am I meant to be coming up with?22:24
=== nhandler_ is now known as nhandler
yuriywow.. just found out 4.2 was released through facebook.. something is just wrong about that22:26
DaSkreechYou found out22:26
DaSkreechnot that KDE 4.2 was released by facebook22:26
DaSkreechThat's funny22:26
yuriyhaha, no22:26
DaSkreechYou found out about new freeness from a totally closed network22:27
nhandleryuriy: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.222:36
tarimarikde 4.2 is release at repo already 1 hour ago or more22:41
tarimariwhat time it was released exactly? you are really fast22:42
claydohwhew I got it done : http://jakeandgus.blogspot.com/2009/01/quick-quassel-standalone-how-to.html22:45
jussi01claydoh: nice work. looks good22:55
claydohjussi01 : thanks, it was rough as I am working through a few kidney stones, but the work helped distract me a little from the hurt :)23:02
jussi01claydoh: its a nice post though. someone should transfer the guts of it to the quassel wiki.23:04
claydohI plan to, just wanted to put it up somewhere first23:04
tarimariJontheEchidna: Bug: 4.2 final plasma crashes when plamoid world clock it's used (marble)23:06
tarimariJontheEchidna: there must be also mess up in hal, because sound cards and power managements does not work23:06
tarimariJontheEchidna: aopart from the upgrade, should i install some packages? what are the minimum requried packages?23:06
JontheEchidnathe upgrade should give you all you need23:06
tarimarikdebase-workspace should be installed by itself for example? at my own upgrade i had to install saperately23:07
tarimarimaybe hardware does not work because i started from tty6 with starx. i did so because from tty7 it did not load when i alt+ctrl+backspace so to recognize external monitor23:08
tarimariany idea?23:08
tarimarii ll reboot. i ll ask again later23:08
Tonio_some good news23:15
Tonio_Riddell: I seem to have been able to connect correctly with PNM...23:16
Tonio_Riddell: it has shown significant progress today...23:16
RiddellTonio_: yay23:17
Tonio_Riddell: also, it seems that any hald update crashes plasma.... along with dbus restarts and so on...23:17
Tonio_Riddell: that will not make it easy to deal with SRU...23:17
Tonio_I can't seem to be able to create an openvpn connection.... still unperfect :)23:19
jussi01Tonio_: how did you do it? just quit knetworkmanger and add the plasmoid, then connect? or?23:27
bobesponjais it planed to add ruby-plasma to jaunty like we have python-plasma?23:29
Tonio_jussi01 in my case yep it worked, but after a reboot23:38
Tonio_jussi01 take care of cleaning your old connections too, since those are badly stored.23:39
jussi01Tonio_: ahh. ok then.23:39
earleHello peeps. Sorry to bug a developer channel, but I wasn't having much luck over in #kubuntu.23:40
jussi01Tonio_: thanks for the info23:40
earleAfter having installed 4.2 via the experimental PPA, I've found that nothing is happening after submitting the login dialog.23:41
earleIE, kdm starts up fine, but that's about it. I'm not sure how to debug this issue.23:41
tarimariJontheEchidna: ok , forget the problems i mentioned before. all ok now23:47
tarimariJontheEchidna: i was asking you about powerdevil. it is not a package actually, but rather thebattery monitor plasmoid23:48
tarimarithe matter is, does it conflict with kde-power-guidance?23:48
JontheEchidnaI think I have heard of that happening23:48
tarimariif one is at powersave and the other at performance, then what will happen? should i uninstall something?23:48
tarimariwhat u have heard?23:48
JontheEchidnathat they fight each other for control of stuff23:49
tarimariso since powerdevil cannot be uninstalled, i must uninstall guidance?23:49
JontheEchidnayou could turn off powerdevil from the services section in systemsettings23:50
tarimarilet me see23:51
tarimariyou are right23:51
tarimarii can also do that23:51
ScottKclaydoh: Nice Quassel how-to.  I did change the Freenode network name to "Kubuntu IRC" in the last upload to make it more obvious.23:52
ScottKclaydoh: Since you'd had it previously installed, I don't think you saw that.23:52
* ScottK surrenders control of his laptop to a $TEENAGER for a bit. Back later.23:53
tarimariquestion about powedevil. what means presentation mode. and what is the difference between agressive, extreme and simple powersave?23:56
tarimariin the past i had with kdeguidance monitor just dynamic and powersave (apart from performance). which is the corresponding for this dynamic and this powersave?23:57
tarimarithey told me kdeguidancemonitor is a kubuntu script. for kubuntu what should work better? powerdevil or kdeguidance?23:57
Riddellthey're just two apps which do much the same thing (talking to HAL)23:58
Riddell#kubuntu for user questions23:59

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