[00:27] <Tekno> humm
[00:27] <Tekno> I have problem regarding xorg
[00:28] <Tekno> windows are very laggy and jerky after resolution switch
[00:28] <Tekno> and moving them causes 100% cpu usage
[00:36] <Peddy> Is there a known workaround for the Pulseaudio message Connection failed: Connection refused?
[00:38] <cwillu> is pulseaudio running right now?
[00:39] <gourgi> cwillu should be
[00:39] <Peddy> cwillu, yes it is.
[00:39] <cwillu> killing and restarting it do anything useful?
[00:40] <Peddy> Nope
[00:40] <Peddy> Ah
[00:40] <Peddy> How would I add my user to the group pulse-rt?
[00:40] <cwillu> running it in a terminal without the -D option might give you some relevant debug info
[00:40] <cwillu> Peddy, shouldn't need to, but it's just a regular group
[00:41] <cwillu> adduser peddy pulse-rt should do it (although that might be backwards, check adduser --help)
[00:41] <Peddy> that's correct.
[00:41] <Peddy> Hm
[00:41]  * Peddy checks something
[00:42] <Peddy> Would I need to reboot after adding myself to that group?
[00:42] <x1250> nope, just restart pulseaudio
[00:43] <Peddy> with /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart?
[00:43] <x1250> pulseaudio -k; pulseaudio -D
[00:43] <cwillu> you'd need to sudo -u peddy -s or something equivilent, no?
[00:43] <cwillu> group changes don't take effect until something-something
[00:44] <Peddy> excellent, thanks cwillu
[00:44] <Peddy> it seems to work better now
[00:44] <cwillu> k
[00:44] <Peddy> Also, is it normal for Pulse to be 'configured for per-user sessions'? I remember in Intrepid it wasn't like that.
[00:44] <cwillu> thought it was
[00:45] <cwillu> intrepid isn't set to use a system-instance, if that's what you're asking
[00:52] <Peddy> ok
[01:04] <Peddy> How can I install Sun's java from apt?
[01:08] <x1250> Peddy, googling?
[01:08] <Peddy> x1250, nevermind, it was already installed.
[01:08] <hggdh> well, there's the sunjava6 packages
[01:09] <Peddy> yeah, I meant Java Web Start
[01:10] <x1250> Peddy, for general (or basic) questions you'll have better luck in #ubuntu
[01:11] <Peddy> thanks
[01:14] <Z_God> what should I fill in when the jaunty alternate installer asks for a mirror?
[01:14] <Z_God> I already tried {nl.de}.archive.ubuntu.com
[02:34] <phixxor> hey guys
[02:35] <phixxor> This question sounds pretty stupid even in my head, but
[02:35] <phixxor> why exactly do new versions of software not work on everyone's computer
[02:37] <hggdh> phixxor, because they bring in new functionality -- sometimes in a broken way
[02:41] <phixxor> but I mean, they'd work on the dev's computer before they're added to the system, right?
[02:41] <phixxor> so why don't they work on all configs
[02:41] <phixxor> what interferes?
[02:45] <pwnguin> well, one easy example is build failure
[02:46] <pwnguin> most developers write software for the hardware they own
[02:46] <pwnguin> so they don't test on 32bit x86, or ARM/ppc
[02:58] <cwillu> phixxor, also, everyone has a slightly different configuration of software and hardware
[02:58] <cwillu> the drivers for which don't all act the same
[03:00] <cwillu> and then there's the issue of code that really only runs one time (changing configs during updates), which is trickier to test.  Any previous workarounds/hacks somebody has used will potentially cause a bug
[03:15] <jpedroza> evening all. I have a small but to report in the latest build. I can't start kdm because of an error in nepomukservices. Error is segfault in libQtCore.so.4.4.3
[03:18] <jpedroza> anyone else seeing this?
[03:55] <legodude_> ugh
[03:55] <legodude_> plasma is borked
[03:56] <legodude_> once I fix it, no more updates for me until next alpha/beta comes out
[03:57] <jpedroza> legodude_: I am in the same boat. I hope they get it squared away tomorrow.
[03:58] <cwillu> legodude_, you say that now...
[03:58] <jpedroza> I can't start kdm because of an error in nepomukservices. Error is segfault in libQtCore.so.4.4.3
[03:58] <jpedroza> what distro are you running?
[03:59] <jpedroza> duh, nevermind
[03:59] <jpedroza> I thought I was in #KDE
[03:59] <legodude_> ugh
[03:59] <legodude_> I had it working so nicely
[04:02] <legodude_> jpedroza: can't start kdm?
[04:02] <legodude_> or plasma?
[04:02] <legodude_> my plasma will seem to load, then core dump
[04:02] <legodude_> ugh
[04:02] <legodude_> anyone know how I poke at networkmanager without using knetworkmanager?
[04:03] <Tekno> wicd is pretty good
[04:08] <legodude_> how does it work?
[04:08] <legodude_> looks to be a daemon of some sort?
[04:08] <legodude__> ah, so wicd is not really what I wanted
[04:09] <legodude__> I didn't realize that it replaces networkmanager
[04:09] <legodude__> ugh, my konq if also buggy as heck
[04:09] <legodude__> so is firefox
[04:33] <Volkodav>  how do I set up certain cron jobs as root in Scheduled Tasks ? ie apt-get update
[04:49] <pwnguin> Volkodav: im not sure that's a good idea
[04:49] <pwnguin> what if you get asked a question?
[04:50] <Volkodav> well yeah
[05:01] <hggdh> Volkodav, update-notifier should do this specific task
[05:01] <Volkodav> can I edit the time frame on it ?
[05:05] <hggdh> I think you can, but I am not sure of the process. Try looking at /usr/share/doc/update*
[05:06] <Volkodav> what's the default ? daily ?
[05:08] <bluesmoke> yes, daily
[05:08] <bluesmoke> Volkodav: It's scheduled so all the updates that show up have changelogs published as well
[05:08] <Volkodav> ok
[05:08] <bluesmoke> there is some lag between packages being published and the changelogs for them being published
[05:09] <Volkodav> I noticed that
[05:09] <hggdh> not really. The changelogs are all available as soon as the package is accepted
[05:10] <hggdh> subscribe to the mailling list jaunty-announce to get them, if you want
[05:11] <Volkodav> hmm noot printing after upgrade darn it
[05:11] <Volkodav> all jobs shown as done though
[05:15] <Volkodav> so far Jaunty feeld more stable then ibex in alpha - ibex was bad with X and other stuff
[06:51] <Zetto> Someone can include Bug #251173 in the milestone of jaunty-alpha-5 ?
[06:55] <naught101> what is the package that provides the open/save dialogue for OpenOffice? is it part of gnome?
[06:57] <Zetto> naught101, i think that this isn't the right place to ask it ^^
[06:57] <naught101> Zetto: ... it's an ubuntu package...
[06:58] <Zetto> naught101, i know, but i think that in a OpenOffice room ...
[06:58] <Zetto> probably someone will know
[07:00] <Zetto> naught101, try go to #dev.openoffice.org
[07:00] <Zetto> naught101, i hope you find what you need
[07:00] <naught101> :)
[07:00] <Zetto> ;)
[07:04] <Zetto> naught101, sorry by the curiosit, but are you using KDE 3 or 4 ?
[07:04] <naught101> 4.2
[07:05] <Zetto> naught101, what do you feel using it ?
[07:05] <naught101> 4.2 is quite good. still missing one or two features from 3.5.x, but seems very stable.
[07:06] <Zetto> hummm
[07:06] <naught101> 4.0-4.1 weren't worth it
[07:07] <Zetto> naught101, i think that i tryed only 4.0 and 4.1, i will try 4.2 later
[07:08] <naught101> yeah, wait until 4.2-final comes out. Jaunty will be good.
[07:08] <Zetto> naught101, ok, thank
[07:09] <Zetto> i will sleep now, in my country now it is 05:09 am
[07:09] <Zetto> bye all
[08:32] <thehook_> are there any jaunty server iso's?
[08:56] <peterz> why does amarok depend on mysql?
[09:00] <RAOF> peterz: Because Amarok uses mysql?
[09:03] <simion314> hi, i  am using kubuntu 9.04 and today after an update my network is not working , i am trying as usual to manualy configure dhclient but unfortunetly is not working and i have no more ideeas. http://pastebin.com/d2c1711a8
[09:08] <peterz> RAOF: no it doesn't, it can use sqlite just as well.
[09:08] <NickEd> Anybody help me about the "install" command on the ubuntu CD
[09:09] <RAOF> peterz: No, it can't.  Not anymore.
[09:09] <peterz> *blink*
[09:10] <RAOF> peterz: It now *only* uses mysql.
[09:10] <peterz> crap
[09:10] <simion314> hi, i  am using kubuntu 9.04 and today after an update my network is not working , i am trying as usual to manualy configure dhclient but unfortunetly is not working and i have no more ideeas. http://pastebin.com/d2c1711a8
[09:10] <RAOF> On the basis that asking people what _database_ they want their media player to use is insane.
[09:11] <peterz> right along with running a database server for you media player being insane I guess
[09:11] <peterz> :-(
[09:11] <RAOF> It uses an in-process mysql, IIRC.
[09:11] <RAOF> No setup required; it's basically sqlite on steroids.  This is why it needs 5.1; this feature is new in mysql 5.1.
[09:12] <peterz> right, except that mysql-server-5.1 doesn't install properly
[09:12] <peterz> which is why I noticed
[09:16] <simion314> and after my update in kubuntu 9.04 the krunner is not starting and the networking, maybe after a new update will be fixed but i do not have networking to update :-((
[09:58] <Peddy> Hi, I installed Jaunty alpha 3 and everything was running well. However, after some updates and a reboot, GDM doesn't start, and I only get a shell prompt. Could someone please help me fix this?
[10:01] <Peddy> ah, it looks like xorg was somehow wiped out.
[10:19] <simion314> hi, after an update my netwok is not working, i am trying to ping google using the IP but i get network unreacheble, the same computer works with ubuntu 8.10 so is no hardware problem, i updated(i remember gcc,cups and kde beeing updated and some libs kept back) and after i restarted(was not required but i wanted to do it) the network is not working, i have dinamic IP
[10:19] <simion314> ping to 127.0.0.1 works, and dhclient gets the correct IP
[10:20] <simion314> i mean it requests the IP and it recives  the same IP like when i am booting in the stable version
[10:21] <simion314> please any ideea? ifconfig works with eth0 and i belive that it can't be driver  related but no ideea what is it
[10:22] <BUGabundo> simion314, what does route says?
[10:23] <simion314> BUGabundo: i do not tried that, tell me how to do it, use the route command ? but this is for DNS and pinging google with the IP is not working
[10:23] <BUGabundo> simion314, yeha its just plain route
[10:23] <BUGabundo> take a look at MAN for more info
[10:24] <BUGabundo> it should show u where to send packages
[10:25] <simion314> ok, thx
[10:32] <Peddy> How do I enable ctrl-alt-backspace xserver-restart in Jaunty?
[10:32]  * robin0800 I'm on jaunty alpha 3 abd adept appears to be downloading 4.2 now
[10:33] <BUGabundo> robin0800, just get a daily
[10:34] <BUGabundo> much better, less breakged then getting the updates
[10:57] <simion314> BUGabundo: about my networking problem, the output of the command "ip route show all" is the same in bouth systems(one is working and one is not)
[11:00] <BUGabundo> simion314, strange then
[11:00] <BUGabundo> have u tried ifdown and ifup?
[11:02] <simion314> BUGabundo: no, i tried dhclient eth0 here is the output http://pastebin.com/d2c1711a8
[11:02] <simion314> and it gets the correct IP
[11:02] <simion314> but i can't ping google from the ip i get in the working OS
[11:03] <RAOF> DNS problem?
[11:03] <BUGabundo> simion314, check your /etc/networking NS
[11:04] <simion314> RAOF: no because if i ping googles ip i get network unreacheble
[11:04] <BUGabundo> to see if dns entries are being set
[11:05] <simion314> BUGabundo: i will restart my modem and i will get other IP and then i will see if it realy gets a correct IP or it uses the last working configuration
[11:07] <simion314> infortunetly my working system does not suport ext4 and i have to reboot to read that file
[11:14] <cwillu> some grief removing old kernels that a partial upgrade is removing, (2.6.27 series), each one is dying during the removal due to dkms trying to remove module folders that don't exist
[12:30] <nicomen> gnome-display-properties stopped working two days ago or so. Is there a way to achieve the same things from console?
[12:30] <nicomen> stopped working = window comes up, but the content of the window is blank, and the "label" thingy in the top corner also appears blanke (grey)
[12:34] <nicomen> doesn't seem to be a problem with gnome-control-center itself, as that package was last updated 2009-01-09 on my system
[12:41] <legodude__> hope for an update?
[12:42] <nicomen> legodude__: hehe sure, it's just not just now, but other times it would be nice to quickly change between dual screen setups from command line
[12:43] <legodude__> ah
[12:52] <nicomen> if I want to download gnome-control-center to build myself, shouldn't apt-get source gnome-control-center # work?
[12:52] <khalidmian> newbie here what to upgrade to jaunty pls help
[12:53] <TheInfinity> khalidmian: you know that jaunty is alpha?
[12:54] <khalidmian> TheInfinity: yes
[12:54] <nicomen> khalidmian: sudo update-manager -d # but beware it's still in development
[12:54] <TheInfinity> and you need much command line knowledge because it will break your system randomly?
[12:54] <khalidmian> hmmm
[12:54] <khalidmian> k
[12:54] <TheInfinity> (randomly for someone who does not know what crashes there)
[12:55] <TheInfinity> oh. wow. :o
[12:55] <nicomen> hehe, well done ;)
[12:55] <TheInfinity> "i am newbie i want pre alpha software" :/
[12:56] <BUGabundo> pre alpha??
[12:56] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[12:56] <TheInfinity> BUGabundo: ok now its alpha3, but sometimes i just ask myself what ppl think if they ask such things.
[12:57] <BUGabundo> nicomen, no need for sudo in update-manager
[12:57] <nicomen> BUGabundo: ok
[12:57] <BUGabundo> TheInfinity, i started with jaunty even before it reached alpha1
[12:57] <BUGabundo> so i know what pre-alpha can be
[12:58] <TheInfinity> BUGabundo: me too. but i think we both can handle missing xorg or something  like this ;)
[12:59] <BUGabundo> yea
[12:59] <BUGabundo> all but crashng at startup kmail
[12:59] <BUGabundo> without mail, i'm lost
[12:59] <BUGabundo> and then  i get backlog.... not good
[13:00] <TheInfinity> i use ubuntu in vms only ;)
[13:00] <BUGabundo> ROFL
[13:00] <BUGabundo> fake!!!!
[13:01] <Kuaera> BUGabundo: You're getting the kmail crash too?
[13:02] <TheInfinity> BUGabundo: i dont get away from os-x as main system, but i still need some ubuntu tools, and i like the idea behind ubuntu. so i am a ubuntu in vm only user ;)
[13:03] <Kuaera> BUGabundo: I have two email accounts on my Kmail, and when I go to the inbox of the second, it always crashes instantly.
[13:03] <BUGabundo> Kuaera, random crashs
[13:03] <BUGabundo> most when i delete threads
[13:03] <Kuaera> BUGabundo: Ah. Yeah, mine are really consistent :(
[13:05] <BUGabundo> finally https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/317897 found a possible origin...
[13:05] <BUGabundo> Kuaera, are those POP or imap /or even dIMAP) inboxs?
[13:05] <BUGabundo> Kuaera, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/311521
[13:06] <Kuaera> BUGabundo: IMAP
[13:06] <BUGabundo> humm corrupt indexs?
[13:06] <BUGabundo> have u tried to remove them
[13:06] <BUGabundo> ?
[13:07] <Kuaera> Not yet... I'll do so a little later
[13:07] <BUGabundo> there a menu icon to do it
[13:08] <BUGabundo> other wise, close kmail, make sure the process is closed and also the kio's proc are dead
[13:08] <BUGabundo> and then remove all *.index.*
[13:09] <Kuaera> Refresh IMAP Cache?
[13:09] <BUGabundo> wont do it!
[13:09] <BUGabundo> Rebuild Index
[13:09] <Kuaera> I'm trying to find which icon you mean
[13:09] <BUGabundo> is what u want
[13:09] <BUGabundo> menu Folder
[13:10] <Kuaera> I do not see that option there.
[13:11] <BUGabundo> sorry, its not available for IMAP
[13:11] <BUGabundo> i dont use IMAP much
[13:11] <BUGabundo> just POPs and dIMAP
[13:11] <Kuaera> I'll try removing and readding the account
[13:11] <BUGabundo> humm
[13:11] <BUGabundo> not sure it will work wither
[13:12] <BUGabundo> sometimes it just reuses leftovers of the previous
[13:12] <BUGabundo> is it an old account, upgraded from KDE3.5?
[13:13] <Kuaera> Afraid not.
[13:13] <BUGabundo> new account... okay
[13:13] <BUGabundo> i had lots of trouble with the migration
[13:13] <BUGabundo> eventually had to REDO everything from scrash
[13:14] <Kuaera> I see.
[13:15] <Kuaera> Well, thank you, in any case
[13:15] <slavik> can evolution connect to exchange using libmapi yet?
[13:58] <mahfiaz> hey, does anybody else has many hanging processes on just upgraded machine?
[13:58] <gourgi> nope
[13:59] <mahfiaz> openoffice hangs on export to pdf, acroread hangs right after opening a file
[14:01] <jimqode> mahfiaz, can you ping localhost
[14:01] <jimqode> loopback interface may be down
[14:01] <jimqode> or your hostname may not be in /etc/hosts
[14:01] <mahfiaz> I can ping and it's up
[14:02] <mahfiaz> but it isn't on time of logging in
[14:02] <zniavre1> !wiki virtualbox
[14:02] <zniavre1> !wiki virtual
[14:02] <zniavre1> sorry wrong channel
[14:03] <mahfiaz> I messed with firestarter, removed it and I don't know what file to edit to get policies to ACCEPT
[14:05] <mahfiaz> but this happened quite a time ago and haven't stopped me from working, I simply flush iptables by hand and set policies
[14:07] <DrHalan1> hey, ooo impress locks up here during editing
[14:08] <mahfiaz> can you export to pdf from writer?
[14:09] <DrHalan1> mahfiaz: it works fine
[14:09] <mahfiaz> so I am still alone with lockup on exporting
[14:10] <DrHalan1> guess so
[14:45] <mahfiaz> anyone else getting mysterious hangs of programs?
[15:06] <biouser> mahfiaz sometimes a bit
[15:07] <biouser> I have to force quit firefox if I try to 'join audio' in twiddla which uses a JRE thing for VoIP
[15:07] <biouser> my xterm has been half-hanging when I have like 50 tabs of vim up
[15:07] <biouser> and I have to do some voodoo and say switch input modes and then back
[15:08] <biouser> but I wouldn't necessarily say 'hangs' there because I don't have to force quit and I haven't seen it since the last xterm update
[15:08] <mahfiaz> this is different, I get acroread to hang after opening and OO to hang on export to pdf, both worked yesterday
[15:08] <biouser> mahfiaz ah, interestingly
[15:08] <mahfiaz> and with no CPU activity at all
[15:09] <biouser> my acroread plug-in is giving me blank right now in firefox
[15:09] <biouser> so firefox apparently thinks I am looking at a pdf and has downloaded it but I get a blank screen
[15:10] <biouser> I was about to reboot to see if for some reason that would fix
[15:10] <biouser> just tying up my loose ends with my groups and IRC
[15:10] <mahfiaz> what about opening acroread itself?
[15:29] <pirroh> hi, could someone with ubuntu+1 paste me the output of cat /proc/sys/fs/epoll/max_user_instances ? thanks a lot
[15:30] <hggdh> pirroh, 128
[15:32] <pirroh> hggdh: thank you
[15:51] <biouser> so acroread mozilla-plugin fails now
[17:13] <gmathews> Hi which KDE version will be in Jaunty?
[17:14] <TheInfinity> 4.2
[17:14] <Volkodav> are they adding xfce 4.6 beta too ?
[17:15] <Volkodav> I have it from xubuntu repos b 1 but it is at b3 already
[17:15] <gmathews> 4http://download.kde.org/stable/4.2.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-1.2.0.iso
[17:15] <gmathews> 4.2 is out now
[17:16] <Alexia_Death> is 4.2 already in the repros?
[17:20] <fosco__> Alexia_Death, right now, kdelibs5 version in repos shows:
[17:20] <fosco__> Version: 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1
[17:21] <Alexia_Death> Sweet :)
[17:21] <fosco__> Volkodav, don't think so, jaunty repos have Xfce4.3 right now
[17:21] <Alexia_Death> Lets see how good it is when my dist-upgrade completes.
[17:24] <gmathews> Who oversees new releases?
[17:24] <gmathews> As in who decides if it ready to go the way it is..
[17:28] <jpds> gmathews: Release team.
[18:01] <spitfire> I have a wifi based in iwl3945, and I can't connect:/
[18:01] <spitfire> http://pastebin.com/f11786f35 ^^
[18:25] <DrHalan> does anyone else encounter apps like abiword or OOo locking up x constantly
[19:16] <biouser> I don't have any ctrl-alt-backspace anymore
[19:17] <biouser> haven't since upgrade to jaunty
[19:17] <Pici> Correct
[19:18] <biouser> Pici it is purposefully gone?
[19:18] <biouser> for good?
[19:19] <Pici> biouser: Its disabled upstream.
[19:19] <biouser> if I'm going to upload an error report I need to run the program in terminal and paste the output .. this is the way?
[19:19] <Pici> http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=335 may help you re-enable it if you need it.
[19:19] <Unksi> biouser: paste the output to pastebin and paste the url here
[19:20] <Pici> biouser: If that information is relevant, then yes, it may be helpful.
[19:20] <Unksi> biouser: forget that somebody needs to learn to read :D
[19:20] <biouser> okay Unksi Pici thanks ... have I not read something that I should have?  I am kind of busy :P
[19:21] <Pici> biouser: I attended a discussion at UDS about it, dunno if it was mentioned much elsewhere.
[19:22] <Unksi> Pici: do you remember the reason it got disabled?
[19:24] <biouser> anyhoo... to start gtk-recordmydesktop I have to do all sorts of voodoo with my sound like 1) start ardour (for some reason I can't start jackd by itself) 2) open qjackcontrol & close ardour 3) ... I don't even know... I can get it to work about 10% of the time if I go through some crazy steps to massage pulse audio and such... I think things are getting better with pulse audio here in 9.04.. but any quick words of wisdom before i reb
[19:24] <biouser> oot and try again?
[19:24] <Pici> Unksi: Xorg made the decision to remove it by default. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace may provide more info
[19:24] <Unksi> ok, thanks
[19:25] <biouser> I presume that is a no...?
[19:26] <biouser> sudo reboot now locked and loaded...
[19:37] <Kuaera> Hm. Does the "ati" driver support XGL?
[19:38] <DrHalan> Kuaera: why would you want to support XGL?
[19:39] <Kuaera> DrHalan: Do not know; just that Xlib spouts numerous errors regarding the lack of the GLX extension.
[19:39] <DrHalan> alriht
[19:40] <Kuaera> gldemo spouts it about a dozen times, and glxgears spouts it once before segfaulting, sooo.
[19:41] <Kuaera> ...rather, qtdemo spouts a dozen times, too. glxdemo spouts once, segfaults.
[19:48] <rom1v> hi
[19:48] <rom1v> if firefox 3.1 is out after april 2009, will it be upgraded as soon as it is out in ubuntu 9.04?
[19:48] <rom1v> or we'll have to wait until 9.10?
[19:48] <rom1v> (like for ooo2.4 in ubuntu 8.10)?
[19:49] <mst__> hi, anyone know how to change the default boot loader to lilo instead of grub?
[20:15] <Tecumseh> good evening, could there be a bug in the alternate i386 alpha3 cd that prevends me from using a manual partition scheme?
[20:15] <maco>  er, i thought that bug was fixed a few weeks before alpha 3's release...
[20:17] <Tecumseh> me 2 but I just tried to install alpha3 this way and after assigning the existing partitions to their mountpoints and choosing / and swap to be formatted it fails with the error that the partition was unmounted unsafe
[20:17] <Tecumseh> then a full halt and that's it. Ran a e2fck on the entire drive and no errors found
[20:18] <maco> wait is there an NTFS partition?
[20:18] <Tecumseh> yep, there is
[20:18] <maco> thats why
[20:18] <maco> unmount NTFS properly and do a chkdsk from windows 2x
[20:18] <maco> e2fsck cant fix ntfs disks :P
[20:18] <Tecumseh> damn, didn't think of that
[20:19] <Tecumseh> been running without windows for the last 2 years but since recently had to put it back for work
[20:19] <maco> gparted gives the "chkdsk /f" twice advice, so i remember it
[20:20] <maco> itll offer to run the chkdsk on boot, so you say yes to that and reboot. then do that again
[20:20] <maco> that should get the ntfs drive into a good state
[20:20] <Tecumseh> ok, thanks a lot
[20:23] <ABCD> I'm running the alternate install disk (alpha 3) right now in a VM, and for some reason, it just decided to install the Spanish language pack! (I only selected "English" everywhere, no other languages)
[20:23] <ABCD> anyone else seen that happen to them?
[21:09] <White_Pelican> where can I download jaunty fpr ubuntu?
[21:11] <ABCD> White_Pelican: see the /topic
[21:11] <White_Pelican> ty
[21:31] <Peddy> Is there a way to suspend my system, with Nvidia binary drivers installed?
[21:34] <Amaranth> suspend with nvidia? prayer
[21:34] <Amaranth> oh, he left
[21:54] <Peddy> Is there a way to suspend my system, with Nvidia binary drivers installed (like I could in Intrepid)?
[21:55]  * Peddy apologises if he asked the question twice, since he timed out the first time.
[21:55] <Amaranth> Peddy: prayer
[21:55] <Amaranth> If it doesn't work there is nothing anyone can do to fix it
[21:56] <Peddy> ok, I apt-get installed prayer, how do I use it?
[21:57] <Peddy> :P
[21:57] <Peddy> ok, lulz aside, can I install the Nvidia 173 drivers, without uninstalling xorg and all things related to xorg? Whenever I install it, xorg-xserver is removed.
[22:01] <jpedroza> Peddy: I had to install with the nvidia installer for it to not remove xorg
[22:01] <jpedroza> Peddy: Then you need to add the ABI flag in xorg.conf for it to actuially work
[22:01] <Peddy> yeah, I've done the ABI thing.
[22:01] <Peddy> is there an apt-get command which tells it to ignore the uninstalling of packages?
[22:02] <jpedroza> Peddy: Not that I found in this case
[22:02] <jpedroza> Peddy: But the binary installer for 180.22 worked fine for me. I have an 8600GT
[22:02] <Peddy> ok
[23:21] <DanaG> wtu?    * Update New Wave to 0.7.2 (LP: #XXXXXX)
[23:21] <DanaG> bug xxxxxx
[23:21] <DanaG> XXXXXX is not a number.  =þ
[23:28] <hggdh> the packager forgot to either take out the reference, or to add it in...