[00:27] humm [00:27] I have problem regarding xorg [00:28] windows are very laggy and jerky after resolution switch [00:28] and moving them causes 100% cpu usage [00:36] Is there a known workaround for the Pulseaudio message Connection failed: Connection refused? [00:38] is pulseaudio running right now? [00:39] cwillu should be [00:39] cwillu, yes it is. [00:39] killing and restarting it do anything useful? [00:40] Nope [00:40] Ah [00:40] How would I add my user to the group pulse-rt? [00:40] running it in a terminal without the -D option might give you some relevant debug info [00:40] Peddy, shouldn't need to, but it's just a regular group [00:41] adduser peddy pulse-rt should do it (although that might be backwards, check adduser --help) [00:41] that's correct. [00:41] Hm [00:41] * Peddy checks something [00:42] Would I need to reboot after adding myself to that group? [00:42] nope, just restart pulseaudio [00:43] with /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart? [00:43] pulseaudio -k; pulseaudio -D [00:43] you'd need to sudo -u peddy -s or something equivilent, no? [00:43] group changes don't take effect until something-something [00:44] excellent, thanks cwillu [00:44] it seems to work better now [00:44] k [00:44] Also, is it normal for Pulse to be 'configured for per-user sessions'? I remember in Intrepid it wasn't like that. [00:44] thought it was [00:45] intrepid isn't set to use a system-instance, if that's what you're asking [00:52] ok [01:04] How can I install Sun's java from apt? [01:08] Peddy, googling? [01:08] x1250, nevermind, it was already installed. [01:08] well, there's the sunjava6 packages [01:09] yeah, I meant Java Web Start [01:10] Peddy, for general (or basic) questions you'll have better luck in #ubuntu [01:11] thanks [01:14] what should I fill in when the jaunty alternate installer asks for a mirror? [01:14] I already tried {nl.de}.archive.ubuntu.com === sisto1 is now known as sisto [02:34] hey guys [02:35] This question sounds pretty stupid even in my head, but [02:35] why exactly do new versions of software not work on everyone's computer [02:37] phixxor, because they bring in new functionality -- sometimes in a broken way [02:41] but I mean, they'd work on the dev's computer before they're added to the system, right? [02:41] so why don't they work on all configs [02:41] what interferes? [02:45] well, one easy example is build failure [02:46] most developers write software for the hardware they own [02:46] so they don't test on 32bit x86, or ARM/ppc [02:58] phixxor, also, everyone has a slightly different configuration of software and hardware [02:58] the drivers for which don't all act the same [03:00] and then there's the issue of code that really only runs one time (changing configs during updates), which is trickier to test. Any previous workarounds/hacks somebody has used will potentially cause a bug [03:15] evening all. I have a small but to report in the latest build. I can't start kdm because of an error in nepomukservices. Error is segfault in libQtCore.so.4.4.3 [03:18] anyone else seeing this? [03:55] ugh [03:55] plasma is borked [03:56] once I fix it, no more updates for me until next alpha/beta comes out [03:57] legodude_: I am in the same boat. I hope they get it squared away tomorrow. [03:58] legodude_, you say that now... [03:58] I can't start kdm because of an error in nepomukservices. Error is segfault in libQtCore.so.4.4.3 [03:58] what distro are you running? [03:59] duh, nevermind [03:59] I thought I was in #KDE [03:59] ugh [03:59] I had it working so nicely [04:02] jpedroza: can't start kdm? [04:02] or plasma? [04:02] my plasma will seem to load, then core dump [04:02] ugh [04:02] anyone know how I poke at networkmanager without using knetworkmanager? [04:03] wicd is pretty good [04:08] how does it work? [04:08] looks to be a daemon of some sort? [04:08] ah, so wicd is not really what I wanted [04:09] I didn't realize that it replaces networkmanager [04:09] ugh, my konq if also buggy as heck [04:09] so is firefox [04:33] how do I set up certain cron jobs as root in Scheduled Tasks ? ie apt-get update [04:49] Volkodav: im not sure that's a good idea [04:49] what if you get asked a question? [04:50] well yeah [05:01] Volkodav, update-notifier should do this specific task [05:01] can I edit the time frame on it ? [05:05] I think you can, but I am not sure of the process. Try looking at /usr/share/doc/update* [05:06] what's the default ? daily ? [05:08] yes, daily [05:08] Volkodav: It's scheduled so all the updates that show up have changelogs published as well [05:08] ok [05:08] there is some lag between packages being published and the changelogs for them being published [05:09] I noticed that [05:09] not really. The changelogs are all available as soon as the package is accepted [05:10] subscribe to the mailling list jaunty-announce to get them, if you want === Pricey is now known as Guest75242 [05:11] hmm noot printing after upgrade darn it [05:11] all jobs shown as done though === pixelated is now known as Guest50918 [05:15] so far Jaunty feeld more stable then ibex in alpha - ibex was bad with X and other stuff === [perry] is now known as [pErry] === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth === RonaldH is now known as Ronald [06:51] Someone can include Bug #251173 in the milestone of jaunty-alpha-5 ? [06:51] Launchpad bug 251173 in netbeans-ide "Update NetBeans to 6.5" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/251173 [06:55] what is the package that provides the open/save dialogue for OpenOffice? is it part of gnome? [06:57] naught101, i think that this isn't the right place to ask it ^^ [06:57] Zetto: ... it's an ubuntu package... [06:58] naught101, i know, but i think that in a OpenOffice room ... [06:58] probably someone will know [07:00] naught101, try go to #dev.openoffice.org [07:00] naught101, i hope you find what you need [07:00] :) [07:00] ;) [07:04] naught101, sorry by the curiosit, but are you using KDE 3 or 4 ? [07:04] 4.2 [07:05] naught101, what do you feel using it ? [07:05] 4.2 is quite good. still missing one or two features from 3.5.x, but seems very stable. [07:06] hummm [07:06] 4.0-4.1 weren't worth it [07:07] naught101, i think that i tryed only 4.0 and 4.1, i will try 4.2 later [07:08] yeah, wait until 4.2-final comes out. Jaunty will be good. [07:08] naught101, ok, thank [07:09] i will sleep now, in my country now it is 05:09 am [07:09] bye all === Eq|laptop is now known as EqUaTe === Guest35008 is now known as Dave2 === pricechild is now known as Pricey [08:32] are there any jaunty server iso's? [08:56] why does amarok depend on mysql? [09:00] peterz: Because Amarok uses mysql? [09:03] hi, i am using kubuntu 9.04 and today after an update my network is not working , i am trying as usual to manualy configure dhclient but unfortunetly is not working and i have no more ideeas. http://pastebin.com/d2c1711a8 [09:08] RAOF: no it doesn't, it can use sqlite just as well. [09:08] Anybody help me about the "install" command on the ubuntu CD [09:09] peterz: No, it can't. Not anymore. === Slart_ is now known as Slart [09:09] *blink* [09:10] peterz: It now *only* uses mysql. [09:10] crap [09:10] hi, i am using kubuntu 9.04 and today after an update my network is not working , i am trying as usual to manualy configure dhclient but unfortunetly is not working and i have no more ideeas. http://pastebin.com/d2c1711a8 [09:10] On the basis that asking people what _database_ they want their media player to use is insane. [09:11] right along with running a database server for you media player being insane I guess [09:11] :-( [09:11] It uses an in-process mysql, IIRC. [09:11] No setup required; it's basically sqlite on steroids. This is why it needs 5.1; this feature is new in mysql 5.1. [09:12] right, except that mysql-server-5.1 doesn't install properly [09:12] which is why I noticed [09:16] and after my update in kubuntu 9.04 the krunner is not starting and the networking, maybe after a new update will be fixed but i do not have networking to update :-(( [09:58] Hi, I installed Jaunty alpha 3 and everything was running well. However, after some updates and a reboot, GDM doesn't start, and I only get a shell prompt. Could someone please help me fix this? [10:01] ah, it looks like xorg was somehow wiped out. === yuriy_ is now known as yuriy [10:19] hi, after an update my netwok is not working, i am trying to ping google using the IP but i get network unreacheble, the same computer works with ubuntu 8.10 so is no hardware problem, i updated(i remember gcc,cups and kde beeing updated and some libs kept back) and after i restarted(was not required but i wanted to do it) the network is not working, i have dinamic IP [10:19] ping to 127.0.0.1 works, and dhclient gets the correct IP [10:20] i mean it requests the IP and it recives the same IP like when i am booting in the stable version [10:21] please any ideea? ifconfig works with eth0 and i belive that it can't be driver related but no ideea what is it [10:22] simion314, what does route says? [10:23] BUGabundo: i do not tried that, tell me how to do it, use the route command ? but this is for DNS and pinging google with the IP is not working [10:23] simion314, yeha its just plain route [10:23] take a look at MAN for more info [10:24] it should show u where to send packages [10:25] ok, thx [10:32] How do I enable ctrl-alt-backspace xserver-restart in Jaunty? [10:32] * robin0800 I'm on jaunty alpha 3 abd adept appears to be downloading 4.2 now [10:33] robin0800, just get a daily [10:34] much better, less breakged then getting the updates [10:57] BUGabundo: about my networking problem, the output of the command "ip route show all" is the same in bouth systems(one is working and one is not) [11:00] simion314, strange then [11:00] have u tried ifdown and ifup? [11:02] BUGabundo: no, i tried dhclient eth0 here is the output http://pastebin.com/d2c1711a8 [11:02] and it gets the correct IP [11:02] but i can't ping google from the ip i get in the working OS [11:03] DNS problem? [11:03] simion314, check your /etc/networking NS [11:04] RAOF: no because if i ping googles ip i get network unreacheble [11:04] to see if dns entries are being set [11:05] BUGabundo: i will restart my modem and i will get other IP and then i will see if it realy gets a correct IP or it uses the last working configuration [11:07] infortunetly my working system does not suport ext4 and i have to reboot to read that file [11:14] some grief removing old kernels that a partial upgrade is removing, (2.6.27 series), each one is dying during the removal due to dkms trying to remove module folders that don't exist === acuster is now known as avc_lunch [12:30] gnome-display-properties stopped working two days ago or so. Is there a way to achieve the same things from console? [12:30] stopped working = window comes up, but the content of the window is blank, and the "label" thingy in the top corner also appears blanke (grey) [12:34] doesn't seem to be a problem with gnome-control-center itself, as that package was last updated 2009-01-09 on my system [12:41] hope for an update? [12:42] legodude__: hehe sure, it's just not just now, but other times it would be nice to quickly change between dual screen setups from command line [12:43] ah [12:52] if I want to download gnome-control-center to build myself, shouldn't apt-get source gnome-control-center # work? [12:52] newbie here what to upgrade to jaunty pls help [12:53] khalidmian: you know that jaunty is alpha? [12:54] TheInfinity: yes [12:54] khalidmian: sudo update-manager -d # but beware it's still in development [12:54] and you need much command line knowledge because it will break your system randomly? [12:54] hmmm [12:54] k [12:54] (randomly for someone who does not know what crashes there) [12:55] oh. wow. :o [12:55] hehe, well done ;) [12:55] "i am newbie i want pre alpha software" :/ [12:56] pre alpha?? [12:56] LOLOL [12:56] BUGabundo: ok now its alpha3, but sometimes i just ask myself what ppl think if they ask such things. [12:57] nicomen, no need for sudo in update-manager [12:57] BUGabundo: ok [12:57] TheInfinity, i started with jaunty even before it reached alpha1 [12:57] so i know what pre-alpha can be [12:58] BUGabundo: me too. but i think we both can handle missing xorg or something like this ;) [12:59] yea [12:59] all but crashng at startup kmail [12:59] without mail, i'm lost [12:59] and then i get backlog.... not good [13:00] i use ubuntu in vms only ;) [13:00] ROFL [13:00] fake!!!! [13:01] BUGabundo: You're getting the kmail crash too? [13:02] BUGabundo: i dont get away from os-x as main system, but i still need some ubuntu tools, and i like the idea behind ubuntu. so i am a ubuntu in vm only user ;) [13:03] BUGabundo: I have two email accounts on my Kmail, and when I go to the inbox of the second, it always crashes instantly. [13:03] Kuaera, random crashs [13:03] most when i delete threads [13:03] BUGabundo: Ah. Yeah, mine are really consistent :( [13:05] finally https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/317897 found a possible origin... [13:05] Ubuntu bug 317897 in pulseaudio "pidgin crash with Pulse Audio" [Undecided,New] [13:05] Kuaera, are those POP or imap /or even dIMAP) inboxs? [13:05] Kuaera, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdepim/+bug/311521 [13:06] Ubuntu bug 311521 in kdepim "Kmail Crash while deleting thread with custom keyboard shortcut" [Unknown,Confirmed] [13:06] BUGabundo: IMAP [13:06] humm corrupt indexs? [13:06] have u tried to remove them [13:06] ? [13:07] Not yet... I'll do so a little later [13:07] there a menu icon to do it [13:08] other wise, close kmail, make sure the process is closed and also the kio's proc are dead [13:08] and then remove all *.index.* [13:09] Refresh IMAP Cache? [13:09] wont do it! [13:09] Rebuild Index [13:09] I'm trying to find which icon you mean [13:09] is what u want [13:09] menu Folder [13:10] I do not see that option there. [13:11] sorry, its not available for IMAP [13:11] i dont use IMAP much [13:11] just POPs and dIMAP [13:11] I'll try removing and readding the account [13:11] humm [13:11] not sure it will work wither [13:12] sometimes it just reuses leftovers of the previous [13:12] is it an old account, upgraded from KDE3.5? [13:13] Afraid not. [13:13] new account... okay [13:13] i had lots of trouble with the migration [13:13] eventually had to REDO everything from scrash [13:14] I see. [13:15] Well, thank you, in any case [13:15] can evolution connect to exchange using libmapi yet? === avc_lunch is now known as acuster === acuster is now known as avc_meet [13:58] hey, does anybody else has many hanging processes on just upgraded machine? [13:58] nope [13:59] openoffice hangs on export to pdf, acroread hangs right after opening a file [14:01] mahfiaz, can you ping localhost [14:01] loopback interface may be down [14:01] or your hostname may not be in /etc/hosts [14:01] I can ping and it's up [14:02] but it isn't on time of logging in [14:02] !wiki virtualbox [14:02] Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki virtualbox [14:02] !wiki virtual [14:02] Sorry, I don't know anything about wiki virtual [14:02] sorry wrong channel [14:03] I messed with firestarter, removed it and I don't know what file to edit to get policies to ACCEPT [14:05] but this happened quite a time ago and haven't stopped me from working, I simply flush iptables by hand and set policies [14:07] hey, ooo impress locks up here during editing [14:08] can you export to pdf from writer? [14:09] mahfiaz: it works fine [14:09] so I am still alone with lockup on exporting [14:10] guess so [14:45] anyone else getting mysterious hangs of programs? === Webspot is now known as AndrewGee [15:06] mahfiaz sometimes a bit [15:07] I have to force quit firefox if I try to 'join audio' in twiddla which uses a JRE thing for VoIP [15:07] my xterm has been half-hanging when I have like 50 tabs of vim up [15:07] and I have to do some voodoo and say switch input modes and then back [15:08] but I wouldn't necessarily say 'hangs' there because I don't have to force quit and I haven't seen it since the last xterm update [15:08] this is different, I get acroread to hang after opening and OO to hang on export to pdf, both worked yesterday [15:08] mahfiaz ah, interestingly [15:08] and with no CPU activity at all [15:09] my acroread plug-in is giving me blank right now in firefox [15:09] so firefox apparently thinks I am looking at a pdf and has downloaded it but I get a blank screen [15:10] I was about to reboot to see if for some reason that would fix [15:10] just tying up my loose ends with my groups and IRC [15:10] what about opening acroread itself? === avc_meet is now known as acuster [15:29] hi, could someone with ubuntu+1 paste me the output of cat /proc/sys/fs/epoll/max_user_instances ? thanks a lot [15:30] pirroh, 128 [15:32] hggdh: thank you [15:51] so acroread mozilla-plugin fails now === Guest73565 is now known as jussi01 === jussi01 is now known as Guest1069 === Guest1069 is now known as jussio1 === jussio1 is now known as jussi01 === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [17:13] Hi which KDE version will be in Jaunty? [17:14] 4.2 [17:14] are they adding xfce 4.6 beta too ? [17:15] I have it from xubuntu repos b 1 but it is at b3 already [17:15] 4http://download.kde.org/stable/4.2.0/KDE-Four-Live/KDE-Four-Live.i686-1.2.0.iso [17:15] 4.2 is out now [17:16] is 4.2 already in the repros? [17:20] Alexia_Death, right now, kdelibs5 version in repos shows: [17:20] Version: 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1 [17:21] Sweet :) [17:21] Volkodav, don't think so, jaunty repos have Xfce4.3 right now [17:21] Lets see how good it is when my dist-upgrade completes. [17:24] Who oversees new releases? [17:24] As in who decides if it ready to go the way it is.. [17:28] gmathews: Release team. [18:01] I have a wifi based in iwl3945, and I can't connect:/ [18:01] http://pastebin.com/f11786f35 ^^ [18:25] does anyone else encounter apps like abiword or OOo locking up x constantly === calc_ is now known as calc [19:16] I don't have any ctrl-alt-backspace anymore [19:17] haven't since upgrade to jaunty [19:17] Correct [19:18] Pici it is purposefully gone? [19:18] for good? [19:19] biouser: Its disabled upstream. [19:19] if I'm going to upload an error report I need to run the program in terminal and paste the output .. this is the way? [19:19] http://albertomilone.com/wordpress/?p=335 may help you re-enable it if you need it. [19:19] biouser: paste the output to pastebin and paste the url here [19:20] biouser: If that information is relevant, then yes, it may be helpful. [19:20] biouser: forget that somebody needs to learn to read :D [19:20] okay Unksi Pici thanks ... have I not read something that I should have? I am kind of busy :P [19:21] biouser: I attended a discussion at UDS about it, dunno if it was mentioned much elsewhere. [19:22] Pici: do you remember the reason it got disabled? [19:24] anyhoo... to start gtk-recordmydesktop I have to do all sorts of voodoo with my sound like 1) start ardour (for some reason I can't start jackd by itself) 2) open qjackcontrol & close ardour 3) ... I don't even know... I can get it to work about 10% of the time if I go through some crazy steps to massage pulse audio and such... I think things are getting better with pulse audio here in 9.04.. but any quick words of wisdom before i reb [19:24] oot and try again? [19:24] Unksi: Xorg made the decision to remove it by default. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace may provide more info [19:24] ok, thanks [19:25] I presume that is a no...? [19:26] sudo reboot now locked and loaded... [19:37] Hm. Does the "ati" driver support XGL? [19:38] Kuaera: why would you want to support XGL? [19:39] DrHalan: Do not know; just that Xlib spouts numerous errors regarding the lack of the GLX extension. [19:39] alriht [19:40] gldemo spouts it about a dozen times, and glxgears spouts it once before segfaulting, sooo. [19:41] ...rather, qtdemo spouts a dozen times, too. glxdemo spouts once, segfaults. [19:48] hi [19:48] if firefox 3.1 is out after april 2009, will it be upgraded as soon as it is out in ubuntu 9.04? [19:48] or we'll have to wait until 9.10? [19:48] (like for ooo2.4 in ubuntu 8.10)? === [pErry] is now known as [perry] [19:49] hi, anyone know how to change the default boot loader to lilo instead of grub? === [perry] is now known as [pErry] [20:15] good evening, could there be a bug in the alternate i386 alpha3 cd that prevends me from using a manual partition scheme? [20:15] er, i thought that bug was fixed a few weeks before alpha 3's release... [20:17] me 2 but I just tried to install alpha3 this way and after assigning the existing partitions to their mountpoints and choosing / and swap to be formatted it fails with the error that the partition was unmounted unsafe [20:17] then a full halt and that's it. Ran a e2fck on the entire drive and no errors found [20:18] wait is there an NTFS partition? [20:18] yep, there is [20:18] thats why [20:18] unmount NTFS properly and do a chkdsk from windows 2x [20:18] e2fsck cant fix ntfs disks :P [20:18] damn, didn't think of that [20:19] been running without windows for the last 2 years but since recently had to put it back for work [20:19] gparted gives the "chkdsk /f" twice advice, so i remember it [20:20] itll offer to run the chkdsk on boot, so you say yes to that and reboot. then do that again [20:20] that should get the ntfs drive into a good state [20:20] ok, thanks a lot [20:23] I'm running the alternate install disk (alpha 3) right now in a VM, and for some reason, it just decided to install the Spanish language pack! (I only selected "English" everywhere, no other languages) [20:23] anyone else seen that happen to them? [21:09] where can I download jaunty fpr ubuntu? [21:11] White_Pelican: see the /topic [21:11] ty [21:31] Is there a way to suspend my system, with Nvidia binary drivers installed? [21:34] suspend with nvidia? prayer [21:34] oh, he left [21:54] Is there a way to suspend my system, with Nvidia binary drivers installed (like I could in Intrepid)? [21:55] * Peddy apologises if he asked the question twice, since he timed out the first time. [21:55] Peddy: prayer [21:55] If it doesn't work there is nothing anyone can do to fix it [21:56] ok, I apt-get installed prayer, how do I use it? [21:57] :P [21:57] ok, lulz aside, can I install the Nvidia 173 drivers, without uninstalling xorg and all things related to xorg? Whenever I install it, xorg-xserver is removed. [22:01] Peddy: I had to install with the nvidia installer for it to not remove xorg [22:01] Peddy: Then you need to add the ABI flag in xorg.conf for it to actuially work [22:01] yeah, I've done the ABI thing. [22:01] is there an apt-get command which tells it to ignore the uninstalling of packages? [22:02] Peddy: Not that I found in this case [22:02] Peddy: But the binary installer for 180.22 worked fine for me. I have an 8600GT [22:02] ok === bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler === Guest50918 is now known as pixelated === jimmacdonald is now known as os2mac [23:21] wtu? * Update New Wave to 0.7.2 (LP: #XXXXXX) [23:21] bug xxxxxx [23:21] XXXXXX is not a number. =þ [23:28] the packager forgot to either take out the reference, or to add it in...