| doko_ | somebody aware of the hal install failure on armel? causes build failures on the buildds (openjdk-6) | 10:03 |
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| ogra | install failure ? | 10:05 |
| ogra | it installed fine yesterday here in a local bootstrap | 10:05 |
| doko_ | ogra: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/6b14-0ubuntu10/+build/848818 | 10:08 |
| ogra | thats udev, no ? | 10:11 |
| ogra | cat: /sys/kernel/uevent_seqnum: No such file or directory | 10:11 |
| ogra | invoke-rc.d: initscript udev, action "restart" failed. | 10:11 |
| ogra | dpkg: error processing udev (--configure): | 10:11 |
| ogra | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 | 10:11 |
| doko_ | maybe | 10:15 |
| ogra | well, i pinged keybuk ... | 10:15 |
| suihkulokki | ogra: that'n nutty, buildd's shouldn't be installing hal/udev to the build chroot. | 14:50 |
| suihkulokki | ogra: check which package is pulling them in | 14:50 |
| ogra | suihkulokki, its already fixed in udev | 14:51 |
| ogra | udev shouldnt start if installed in a chroot | 14:51 |
| ogra | there are packages that depend on stuff that in turn depends on hal | 14:51 |
| ogra | so you cant really avoid things like that | 14:51 |
| ogra | packages like hal, dbus and udev need special casing | 14:52 |
| suihkulokki | no | 14:52 |
| Stskeeps | shouldn't they "just" fake invoke-rc.d and start-stop-daemon? :P | 14:52 |
| ogra | all of xorg depends on hal | 14:52 |
| suihkulokki | you build-depend on libhal-dev libdus-dev etc | 14:52 |
| ogra | Stskeeps, thats what they do, but udev had a bad grep in the posinst before | 14:53 |
| suihkulokki | and none of those -dev packages should pull their respective daemon in | 14:53 |
| ogra | feel free to look at the build log | 14:53 |
| ogra | but i know the fix got into udev already so that might be moot | 14:53 |
| ogra | http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21658731/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-armel.openjdk-6_6b14-0ubuntu10_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz | 14:53 |
| ogra | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/jaunty-changes/2009-January/003929.html is the fix | 14:55 |
| suihkulokki | ogra: that's fixing the symptom, not fixing the root of the problem - ie. "why is udev getting installed in the first place" | 14:57 |
| ogra | probably becuse the package needs a running X env ... we have a bunch of packages that need xvfb for example ... | 14:59 |
| ogra | dont ask me, i'm neither maintaining the buildds, nor maintain the openjdk package nor am i resonsible for udev :) | 14:59 |
| ogra | and the udev maintainer obviously considered that fis as appropriate | 14:59 |
| persia | suihkulokki, Probably a side effect of recommends-by-default | 15:00 |
| suihkulokki | persia: ...which is why recommends-by-default is not used on buildd's ;) | 15:00 |
| suihkulokki | at least, on debian that is | 15:00 |
| ogra | beyond fixing that particular buildd issue it will also fix chroot building in general (in case you dont have sysfs mounted in your chroot during bootstrapping) | 15:00 |
| ogra | well, ubuntu doesnt use dak :) | 15:01 |
| persia | suihkulokki, Heh. Well, that's one way to fix it. | 15:01 |
| persia | Personally, I'd rather it did, because many maintainers seem to build packages on their personal local systems, with all sorts of random stuff installed, and certainly recommends. | 15:01 |
| persia | Mind you, this is getting *lots* better, but still. | 15:02 |
| suihkulokki | ogra: I don't claim that udev bug was not worth fixing - merely that there is most likely still a unnecessary depends somewhere | 15:04 |
| suihkulokki | but if you don't care, whatever. | 15:04 |
| ogra | suihkulokki, well, ask doko_ about it ... :) | 15:04 |
| ogra | he was bringing it up since he tried to build openjdk | 15:04 |
| ogra | no idea what pulls it in | 15:04 |
| doko_ | suihkulokki: pulseaudio sucks it in | 15:05 |
| persia | And pulse needs to do device analysis if the daemon is running. | 15:06 |
| persia | doko_, Why does OpenJDK need both libpulse-dev and pulseaudio to build? Would libpulse-dev itself not be sufficient? | 15:07 |
| persia | Is this for the test suite? | 15:07 |
| doko_ | AC_DEFUN([FIND_PULSEAUDIO], | 15:09 |
| doko_ | [ | 15:09 |
| doko_ | AC_PATH_PROG(PULSEAUDIO_BIN, "pulseaudio") | 15:09 |
| doko_ | if test -z "${PULSEAUDIO_BIN}"; then | 15:09 |
| doko_ | AC_MSG_ERROR("pulseaudio was not found.") | 15:09 |
| doko_ | fi | 15:09 |
| doko_ | AC_SUBST(PULSEAUDIO_BIN) | 15:09 |
| doko_ | ]) | 15:09 |
| persia | Blech. No helping it then, really. | 15:11 |
| * suihkulokki grumbles | 15:11 | |
| suihkulokki | 1) i would still check if that configure check can be fixed | 15:15 |
| suihkulokki | 2) if pulseaudio does really need to depend on hal | 15:15 |
| suihkulokki | then again, if the build system is pulling in recommends, this ranting is completly moot | 15:15 |
| ogra | there are more packages like that | 15:15 |
| ogra | all the stuff that uses xvfb for their test suites will run into the same now that xorg hard depends on hal | 15:16 |
| ogra | i think you should start to consider it a common case that udev *might* show up in buildd chroots | 15:17 |
| suihkulokki | that depends on how much you care about quality and bloat | 15:18 |
| ogra | well, self tests can improve the quality ... so i'D rather call it a philosophical thing :) | 15:18 |
| suihkulokki | I doubt even with current xorg xvfb would really hard-depend on hal | 15:19 |
| suihkulokki | so in other words, someone took the lazy route | 15:19 |
| ogra | xvbf runs X | 15:19 |
| ogra | and X needs hal to run | 15:19 |
| ogra | *vfb | 15:20 |
| * ogra humms "times are changin ..." | 15:21 | |
| * suihkulokki humms unverified bullshit | 15:21 | |
| ogra | heh | 15:22 |
| ogra | well, fix X to not use hal ... but i doubt upstream will accept any patches that revert this behavior ... they made quite a hard cut and dropped much backwards compatibility with this release | 15:23 |
| suihkulokki | you are confusing the dependency on libhal and dependency on hald | 15:28 |
| ogra | xorg moaning loudly if hald doesnt run doesnt help though :) but right, it doesnt have a dep on hal itself | 15:33 |
| NCommander | hola | 16:15 |
| ScriptRipper | NCommander: hi | 21:17 |
| NCommander | hey ScriptRipper | 23:15 |
| ScriptRipper | Did you think about the e-mail for the apt repo layout? | 23:15 |
| ScriptRipper | NCommander: your last comment was: i think about it under the shower, if i remeber correctly :) | 23:17 |
| ScriptRipper | NCommander: what did your shower say :) | 23:18 |
| NCommander | ScriptRipper, "ack, it burns" | 23:23 |
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