[00:48] <Cimi_> dashua,
[00:48] <Cimi_>         GtkScale       ::slider-width         = 19
[00:48] <Cimi_>         GtkScale       ::slider-length        = 12
[00:48] <Cimi_>         GtkScale       ::trough-side-details  = 1
[00:48] <Cimi_> try these
[00:48] <dashua> Will do.  Thx.
[00:51] <dashua> Cimi_: http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-16.png
[00:51] <dashua> I do want to change those scrollbars.
[00:52] <_MMA_> dashua: You gotta see what you can do about your formatting on your ML posts. You post shows as a signature and the post you wanna quote isn't quoted. Screenshot: http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/4628/screenshotjv9.png
[00:53] <_MMA_> dashua: And it's usually a good idea to pull out the quoted footer when replying.
[00:53] <dashua> _MMA_: Ah damn.  Ok.  I'm using yahoo trying to bottom post.  Not working so well.
[00:53] <dashua> Sorry about that.
[00:53] <_MMA_> np. Just letting ya know. :)
[00:54] <dashua> Thx :)
[00:54] <Cimi_> dashua, change the thickness of your scale sliders to 3
[00:54] <Cimi_> x/y thickness
[00:55] <dashua> K
[00:55] <Cimi_> those sliders are fat and without the shadow
[00:57] <_MMA_> Cimi_: Man you keep hours like you live on the west coast of the States.
[00:57] <_MMA_> Isn't it like 1 or 2am for you?
[00:58] <dashua> Cimi_: http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-17.1233017872.png
[00:58] <Cimi_> 2 am
[00:58] <dashua> Nice
[00:58] <dashua> Thx
[00:59] <dashua> I'm going to work on porting Dust when I have some extra time.
[01:00] <_MMA_> dashua: *GOD* I wish you could adjust the size of that GNOME-Do dock. That and I wish it was drawn on the GPU. Its slow even on my dual-core box.
[01:00] <dashua> Ha
[01:01] <dashua> It's actually ridiculously fast.  I think this is default.  I deleted my gconf settings
[01:02] <_MMA_> huh? Maybe I need to blow out my settings then.
[01:02] <_MMA_> The effect lags bad.
[01:02] <dashua> What video card do you have?
[01:02] <_MMA_> nVidia
[01:03] <dashua> The old nvidia drivers (178.82) were very slow.  180.22 is like a dream with Docky.
[01:03] <dashua> I had the same issue.
[01:03] <dashua> Updated drivers and it was fast.
[01:03] <_MMA_> Ha! It actually sped up after i cleared out my settings. (left there from old installs)
[01:04] <dashua> Just as fast as the OSX dock.
[01:04] <dashua> Parabolic zoom anyways.  It gets a little slow over time, but nothing catastrophic.
[01:04] <_MMA_> But, there's a cease & desist letter waiting for sure.
[01:05] <Cimi_> _MMA_, that's true
[01:05] <dashua> Probably
[01:05] <Cimi_> 178 are very slow
[01:05] <Cimi_> here docky is quite usable on the netbook
[01:05] <Cimi_> intel atom intel 950
[01:05] <dashua> _MMA_: Any updated to Breathe coming soon?
[01:06] <_MMA_> dashua: I got sucked into Ubuntu Studio updates/testing this weekend so I should get Breathe updated this week.
[01:06] <dashua> Ah ok. Nice.
[01:07] <andreasn> ah, good to know I'm not the only one having issues with the animations in GNOME Do
[01:07] <andreasn> I thought I had broken something
[01:08] <_MMA_> I think I'm just runnin' the strait 177 repo drivers actually.
[01:08] <dashua> I stopped using Docky because of the performance on 178, 180 is very fast.  World of difference.
[01:09] <_MMA_> Since the kernel updates have been dropping off maybe I'll grab the latest ones from nVidia.
[01:12] <dashua> I'm on Jaunty.  I have to use IgnoreABI option, but it worked fine when I was on Intrepid.
[01:12] <_MMA_> dashua: Oh wow. You're more brave than I am. :P
[01:13] <dashua> Yeah, it's actually working with minimal breakage so far.
[01:13] <_MMA_> I'll probably put it on the laptop after next alpha.
[01:14] <dashua> I haven't ventured to Ext4 yet.
[01:14] <dashua> Although, I know I will be tempted =/
[01:14] <_MMA_> I have in VM. No trouble so far.
[01:14] <dashua> Ah nice.  I heard it was working fairly well.
[01:16] <dashua> Cimi_: http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-18.png
[01:16] <dashua> Sliders look nice. Thx
[01:17]  * Cimi_ moved to fedora but still likes to contribute on ubuntu-art LOL
[01:18] <dashua> Linus apparently moved to GNOME, so I guess anything is possible =/
[01:19] <_MMA_> meh. Ubuntu has a better repo structure and package manager IMO.
[01:19] <_MMA_> dashua: hahaha *seriously* :P
[01:20] <Cimi_> apt is the fastest
[01:20] <Cimi_> but I prefer the way rpm are build from .specs and the integration of yum with packagekit
[01:21] <dashua> Cimi_: You stopped using Arch?
[01:21] <Cimi_> also I dislike the way debian/ubuntu maintainers are used to patch every single piece of software
[01:21] <Cimi_> dashua, yeah on august
[01:21] <dashua> Wow.
[01:21] <Cimi_> and yes, I dislike brown :P
[01:21] <_MMA_> Cimi_: Not true. Only stuff with *ubuntu on the packages.
[01:22] <Cimi_> _MMA_, on ubuntu you get different gnome interfaces
[01:22] <Cimi_> patches almost everywhere
[01:22] <Cimi_> and old software
[01:22] <_MMA_> And .rpms are dead tech. The same guy that made .rpm told me so. :)
[01:23]  * dashua is off to work
[01:23] <dashua> Later
[01:23] <_MMA_> later
[01:23] <Cimi_> _MMA_, could be, as I said the way apt manages its database is incredible (positively)
[01:23] <Cimi_> just think about complicated features like "autoremove"
[01:24] <Cimi_> which, if you think deeply, are really complicated to implement if you don't have a solid database
[01:25] <_MMA_> Cimi_: So yeah alot of GNOME might be touched (and Im not sure why) but its hard to touch "every single piece of software" in 22,000 some odd packages. :P
[01:25]  * Cimi_ hides
[01:25] <Cimi_> :P
[01:26] <Cimi_> I had that feeling
[01:26] <_MMA_> Cimi_: Foresight uses Conary. Which was created to address the shortcomings of RPM.
[01:26] <Cimi_> when using ubuntu I felt like they like to patch everything
[01:26] <_MMA_> Foresight is nice but its repo is anemic.
[01:27] <Cimi_> yum has a lot of useful features
[01:27] <Cimi_> for example
[01:28] <Cimi_> I needed an updated kernel for my machine, so I was thinking about the development branch (rawhide) which is similar to jaunty. Though I didn't like the idea of updating the whole system
[01:28] <Cimi_> what I did was: yum install --enablerepo=rawhide kernel
[01:29] <Cimi_> and it took the updated kernel, 2.6.29.rc2-git1
[01:29] <Cimi_> that is really hard with apt
[01:30] <_MMA_> Yep.
[01:32] <savvas> what's hard?
[01:33] <savvas> ah, you mean to install a package by enabling a specific repository once?
[01:33] <Cimi_> anyway the real reason for the change is that fedora works out of the box with my samsung nc10, while ubuntu requires to compile an updated alsa, installing a wireless module through the svn, editing the xorg.conf for the touchpad, enable some fixes for the scrolling, add some scripts for the fn+keys... and so on
[01:34] <Cimi_> mainly because ubuntu has older packages
[01:36] <_MMA_> Cimi_: Sure. I'd *try* Jaunty. Might be better there.
[01:36] <_MMA_> I think Ill switch the laptop tomorrow.
[01:36] <Cimi_> _MMA_, is my english improved over these months or is it still something odd to yours?
[01:36] <Cimi_> that's was OT of course :)
[01:37] <_MMA_> Cimi_: It is better. You're not using words like "ugly" all the time anymore. :P
[01:37] <Cimi_> that's because you're not showing me ugly themes anymore :P
[01:38] <savvas> hehe
[01:39] <savvas> you can still use "ew!" :P
[01:41] <_MMA_> Neat: http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/01/testing-kde-42-release-candidate-on-windows.ars
[01:57] <Cimi_> impressive
[01:59] <_MMA_> Though I think Amarok2 (and Amarok in general) is a terrible mess. IMO there's nothing elegant about it.
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[01:59] <_MMA_> :P
[02:01]  * _MMA_ looks around for other KDE/QT music aps.
[02:01] <_MMA_> *apps
[02:02] <Cimi_> _MMA_, no
[02:02] <Cimi_> it's just ugly
[02:02] <Cimi_> :-P
[02:02] <_MMA_> ;)
[09:14] <ziroday> Hi, is there a murrine svn ppa anywhere?
[09:16] <zniavre> ziroday: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Murrine+Gtk2+Engine+DEB?content=96422
[09:17] <zniavre> i do not hink there is a ppa's repos
[09:17] <ziroday> zniavre: sweet thanks
[09:17] <zniavre> think*
[09:17] <ziroday> that'll do :)