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| FreeSoul | hi guys, i was looking for a way to ask ubuntu mobile guys to enable CONFIG_LIBERTAS_SDIO, CONFIG_LIBERTAS and CONFIG_MMC to enable Marvell 8686 SDIO wifi card that is on Benq mid s6. It's in kernel since 2.6.24. Thanks everybody | 13:29 |
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| FreeSoul | anyone? | 13:34 |
| persia | FreeSoul, I filed a bug about that in September. I'll see if I can find the number. | 13:57 |
| FreeSoul | oh, thanks persia! can i also have the url? i'd like to make a couple of software requests | 13:58 |
| persia | FreeSoul, It's bug #274704 : if you know what needs changing to make it work, I'd be happy, as the lack of connectivity on that device is a persistent annoyance. | 13:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 274704 in linux-lpia "Wireless network interface not recognised" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274704 | 13:58 |
| FreeSoul | that would probably be usefull for anybody | 13:58 |
| persia | Oh, software requests? Do you mean new packages? | 13:58 |
| FreeSoul | yohoo :) thanks! | 13:58 |
| FreeSoul | uhmmm not exactly | 13:58 |
| persia | OK. What do you mean? | 13:59 |
| FreeSoul | persia: i have a mid and i've tested ubuntu mobile too and there're a couple of things that everybody seems to have forget about: | 13:59 |
| persia | I'm not sure "forgot" is the right word, but yeah, I've noticed some things too. | 13:59 |
| persia | So, what are you thinking? | 13:59 |
| FreeSoul | we have a touchscreen and we can't take a note handwriting. I don't mean handwriting recongnition, just drawing, taking notes and save them in a graphic format like png, pdf or whatever | 14:00 |
| persia | Doesn't xournal do that? | 14:00 |
| FreeSoul | and second: no pin or password at boot time. | 14:00 |
| persia | Oh, the no password at boot time is a feature. | 14:00 |
| persia | There's actually some work this cycle to make it possible to have a password for network access, but it still won't ask password at boot. | 14:00 |
| FreeSoul | yes i mean, if you take my mid you can access personal data and files so a simple authentication would be great, in X, so that we have sw keyboard working and all the rest | 14:01 |
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| persia | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mid-display-manager is the spec about enabling support for having usernames and passwords (amoung other features). | 14:01 |
| FreeSoul | yeah as password at book i mean like the login password to start and X session | 14:01 |
| persia | There's no real chance of that being turned on. There's too many people who want it to work without a password. | 14:02 |
| FreeSoul | uhmmm quite strange :) | 14:02 |
| persia | You could do an encrypted loopback filesystem for protected data. | 14:02 |
| FreeSoul | anyway at least password after recovery from standby :) | 14:02 |
| persia | For instance, I used to keep some passwords on my Zaurus, but I had the file containing the passwords encrypted, so I needed to enter a password to see them. | 14:03 |
| persia | There's really no chance of that. | 14:03 |
| FreeSoul | yes but consider concat list, email applications, and so on... | 14:03 |
| persia | I know. | 14:03 |
| FreeSoul | anyway ok this is not as necessary as eanbling the wifi driver :) | 14:03 |
| persia | You could bring it up at the weekly meeting (12:00 UTC on Thursdays), but from previous discussions, I think it's not going to happen. | 14:04 |
| persia | Alternately, if you want to get involved in the mid-display-manager effort, you might be able to submit some code that could provide an option to enable passwords post-install for those who wanted them. | 14:04 |
| persia | No, having the hardware enabled is a first-class problem. We all end up customising our installs anyway, so the selection of software is only a second-class problem. | 14:05 |
| FreeSoul | sure | 14:06 |
| FreeSoul | anyway running the live usb image the touchscreen won't work now... it worked until 17 november release.... later i could not test it and now i can't use the touchscreen mouse | 14:08 |
| persia | What hardware do you have? | 14:08 |
| FreeSoul | BenQ MID S6 | 14:08 |
| FreeSoul | http://benq.it/products/MobileInternetDevice/?product=1048&page=specifications | 14:09 |
| FreeSoul | it's in italian but I'm sure you can understand specs :P | 14:09 |
| FreeSoul | http://www.benq.com/products/MobileInternetDevice/?product=1402&page=specifications the english page :) | 14:10 |
| persia | That looks suspiciously like the Aigo | 14:11 |
| persia | I'm going to guess it uses the same touchscreen, for which the drivers are annoyingly closed. | 14:11 |
| persia | There's been several requests to the driver providers to port to the new X stack, but it's yet to happen to my knowledge. | 14:12 |
| FreeSoul | persia, i've already come here saying that the benq mid s6 comes with a DVD with full sources of everything that is on the device. kernel, drivers, patches, everything | 14:13 |
| FreeSoul | so drivers, at least for the benq mid s6, are open | 14:13 |
| persia | I remember, and I think you and I and Celtiore were looking into what could be used. | 14:14 |
| FreeSoul | yep :) | 14:14 |
| Celtiore | hi | 14:14 |
| FreeSoul | hi there Celtiore | 14:14 |
| persia | My memory is that there was a binary blob for the touchscreen drivers that didn't work with newer X, and that we didn't have source. | 14:14 |
| Celtiore | who HL me :p | 14:14 |
| persia | Celtiore, I did, mentioning that you were part of the conversation that FreeSoul, you, and I had several months ago about the touchscreen drivers. | 14:14 |
| FreeSoul | guys i've dvd here with me, just tell me where i can put it and i upload it | 14:14 |
| FreeSoul | of course it has also drivers for g-sensor and for scrollpad | 14:15 |
| persia | FreeSoul, Does the source you have on the DVD include touchscreen drivers? Do these drivers compile against the current X in Ubuntu? Do you have a license to redistribute this source? | 14:15 |
| Celtiore | FreeSoul, you have already upload it | 14:16 |
| Celtiore | the dvd don't have the source code concerning touchscreen | 14:16 |
| FreeSoul | uhmmmm.... you sure?? | 14:16 |
| Celtiore | yes | 14:17 |
| FreeSoul | uhmm | 14:17 |
| persia | That matches my memory of the previous investigation as well. | 14:17 |
| Celtiore | if you want, you can try the last ubuntu 8.04.1 with touchscrenn working | 14:17 |
| FreeSoul | well, the touchscreen was working a few months ago :) | 14:17 |
| Celtiore | yes with ubuntu 7.10 | 14:17 |
| FreeSoul | Celtiore: yep i was hoping the driver in 9.04 :) | 14:18 |
| FreeSoul | with 8.04 it was ok | 14:18 |
| Celtiore | http://www.midwiki.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=53&func=view&catid=4&id=311&limit=6&limitstart=12#327 | 14:18 |
| Celtiore | here you can find the last official closed driver : http://www.ideacom.com.tw/DR_UTS6680.htm | 14:19 |
| Celtiore | but not yet 8.10 or 9.04 | 14:19 |
| Celtiore | i send an email, but no answer :( | 14:20 |
| FreeSoul | uhmmm ok | 14:20 |
| FreeSoul | it's incredible hardware makes still don't understand the importance of drivers | 14:20 |
| FreeSoul | ok guys I'll wait some days more since i'm busy at the unviersity now.... I hope someone will solve driver problems for both touchscreen and wifi | 14:21 |
| FreeSoul | i have to go now :'( | 14:22 |
| persia | FreeSoul, For WiFi, please comment on that bug with your suggested solution. | 14:22 |
| Celtiore | all are solved ?! | 14:22 |
| persia | For touchscreen, it's more a matter of working with the manufacturer to get drivers, unfortunately, or reverse engineering them. | 14:22 |
| persia | Celtiore, No :( | 14:22 |
| Celtiore | we can use it with ubuntu 8.04 | 14:23 |
| FreeSoul | persia: done | 14:26 |
| FreeSoul | now i go guys, i'm sorry, i gotta study | 14:26 |
| FreeSoul | c ya soon | 14:26 |
| persia | Celtiore, Yes, but that's getting rather out of date, and large chunks of MID didn't get properly sorted until 8.10. | 14:27 |
| Celtiore | sure | 14:27 |
| Celtiore | i'm sorry but last day i ask which deb contain 'gtk-update-icon-cache', and ogra give me the right package, but i don't remember it :( | 14:55 |
| Celtiore | who can help me | 14:55 |
| persia | There's two easy ways to check. If you have that, try `dpkg -S $(which gtk-update-icon-cache)` | 14:56 |
| Celtiore | thanks you | 14:56 |
| persia | If you don't, try installing apt-file and running `apt-file search gtk-update-icon-cache` | 14:57 |
| ogra | or dpkg -S `which gtk-update-icon-cache` | 15:03 |
| ogra | though iirc there is also a debhelper tool for that | 15:03 |
| ogra | dh_iconcache ? | 15:03 |
| persia | dh_icons, but that solves a slightly different issue. | 15:04 |
| ogra | "dh_icons is a debhelper program that updates Freedesktop icon caches when needed, using the update-icon-caches program provided by GTK+2.12." | 15:06 |
| ogra | well, it should provide you the same | 15:06 |
| persia | Um, no. | 15:08 |
| persia | dh_icons creates debhelper maintainer script stubs that call gtk-update-icon-cache | 15:08 |
| persia | If you want to update it locally yourself, this is different. | 15:09 |
| persia | You can't call the update at package build time, you need to call dh_icons. Similarly, you can't call dh_icons on an installed system, you need to call gtk-update-icon-cache (or whichever is appropriate for your environment). | 15:09 |
| ogra | ah, yeah, you are missing the background :) | 15:10 |
| persia | dh_iconcache was a slightly different implementation of the debhelper solution, which was introduced as Ubuntu-local, and is now obsolete. | 15:10 |
| persia | Ah, true :) | 15:10 |
| ogra | Celtiore wanted to get rid of a lintian warning :) | 15:10 |
| persia | dh_icons is the right solution for that. | 15:10 |
| ogra | right | 15:11 |
| Celtiore | persia, i have a question | 16:14 |
| Celtiore | aigo mid have bluetooth and gps | 16:14 |
| Celtiore | but i can't find with ubuntu :( | 16:14 |
| Celtiore | http://www.midwiki.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=53&func=view&catid=4&id=345#346 | 16:15 |
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