=== asac_ is now known as asac [10:50] * playya needs ogra's openmoko debugging board === davmor2 is now known as davmor2-lunch [13:29] hi guys, i was looking for a way to ask ubuntu mobile guys to enable CONFIG_LIBERTAS_SDIO, CONFIG_LIBERTAS and CONFIG_MMC to enable Marvell 8686 SDIO wifi card that is on Benq mid s6. It's in kernel since 2.6.24. Thanks everybody [13:34] anyone? [13:57] FreeSoul, I filed a bug about that in September. I'll see if I can find the number. [13:58] oh, thanks persia! can i also have the url? i'd like to make a couple of software requests [13:58] FreeSoul, It's bug #274704 : if you know what needs changing to make it work, I'd be happy, as the lack of connectivity on that device is a persistent annoyance. [13:58] Launchpad bug 274704 in linux-lpia "Wireless network interface not recognised" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/274704 [13:58] that would probably be usefull for anybody [13:58] Oh, software requests? Do you mean new packages? [13:58] yohoo :) thanks! [13:58] uhmmm not exactly [13:59] OK. What do you mean? [13:59] persia: i have a mid and i've tested ubuntu mobile too and there're a couple of things that everybody seems to have forget about: [13:59] I'm not sure "forgot" is the right word, but yeah, I've noticed some things too. [13:59] So, what are you thinking? [14:00] we have a touchscreen and we can't take a note handwriting. I don't mean handwriting recongnition, just drawing, taking notes and save them in a graphic format like png, pdf or whatever [14:00] Doesn't xournal do that? [14:00] and second: no pin or password at boot time. [14:00] Oh, the no password at boot time is a feature. [14:00] There's actually some work this cycle to make it possible to have a password for network access, but it still won't ask password at boot. [14:01] yes i mean, if you take my mid you can access personal data and files so a simple authentication would be great, in X, so that we have sw keyboard working and all the rest === davmor2-lunch is now known as davmor2 [14:01] https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/mid-display-manager is the spec about enabling support for having usernames and passwords (amoung other features). [14:01] yeah as password at book i mean like the login password to start and X session [14:02] There's no real chance of that being turned on. There's too many people who want it to work without a password. [14:02] uhmmm quite strange :) [14:02] You could do an encrypted loopback filesystem for protected data. [14:02] anyway at least password after recovery from standby :) [14:03] For instance, I used to keep some passwords on my Zaurus, but I had the file containing the passwords encrypted, so I needed to enter a password to see them. [14:03] There's really no chance of that. [14:03] yes but consider concat list, email applications, and so on... [14:03] I know. [14:03] anyway ok this is not as necessary as eanbling the wifi driver :) [14:04] You could bring it up at the weekly meeting (12:00 UTC on Thursdays), but from previous discussions, I think it's not going to happen. [14:04] Alternately, if you want to get involved in the mid-display-manager effort, you might be able to submit some code that could provide an option to enable passwords post-install for those who wanted them. [14:05] No, having the hardware enabled is a first-class problem. We all end up customising our installs anyway, so the selection of software is only a second-class problem. [14:06] sure [14:08] anyway running the live usb image the touchscreen won't work now... it worked until 17 november release.... later i could not test it and now i can't use the touchscreen mouse [14:08] What hardware do you have? [14:08] BenQ MID S6 [14:09] http://benq.it/products/MobileInternetDevice/?product=1048&page=specifications [14:09] it's in italian but I'm sure you can understand specs :P [14:10] http://www.benq.com/products/MobileInternetDevice/?product=1402&page=specifications the english page :) [14:11] That looks suspiciously like the Aigo [14:11] I'm going to guess it uses the same touchscreen, for which the drivers are annoyingly closed. [14:12] There's been several requests to the driver providers to port to the new X stack, but it's yet to happen to my knowledge. [14:13] persia, i've already come here saying that the benq mid s6 comes with a DVD with full sources of everything that is on the device. kernel, drivers, patches, everything [14:13] so drivers, at least for the benq mid s6, are open [14:14] I remember, and I think you and I and Celtiore were looking into what could be used. [14:14] yep :) [14:14] hi [14:14] hi there Celtiore [14:14] My memory is that there was a binary blob for the touchscreen drivers that didn't work with newer X, and that we didn't have source. [14:14] who HL me :p [14:14] Celtiore, I did, mentioning that you were part of the conversation that FreeSoul, you, and I had several months ago about the touchscreen drivers. [14:14] guys i've dvd here with me, just tell me where i can put it and i upload it [14:15] of course it has also drivers for g-sensor and for scrollpad [14:15] FreeSoul, Does the source you have on the DVD include touchscreen drivers? Do these drivers compile against the current X in Ubuntu? Do you have a license to redistribute this source? [14:16] FreeSoul, you have already upload it [14:16] the dvd don't have the source code concerning touchscreen [14:16] uhmmmm.... you sure?? [14:17] yes [14:17] uhmm [14:17] That matches my memory of the previous investigation as well. [14:17] if you want, you can try the last ubuntu 8.04.1 with touchscrenn working [14:17] well, the touchscreen was working a few months ago :) [14:17] yes with ubuntu 7.10 [14:18] Celtiore: yep i was hoping the driver in 9.04 :) [14:18] with 8.04 it was ok [14:18] http://www.midwiki.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=53&func=view&catid=4&id=311&limit=6&limitstart=12#327 [14:19] here you can find the last official closed driver : http://www.ideacom.com.tw/DR_UTS6680.htm [14:19] but not yet 8.10 or 9.04 [14:20] i send an email, but no answer :( [14:20] uhmmm ok [14:20] it's incredible hardware makes still don't understand the importance of drivers [14:21] ok guys I'll wait some days more since i'm busy at the unviersity now.... I hope someone will solve driver problems for both touchscreen and wifi [14:22] i have to go now :'( [14:22] FreeSoul, For WiFi, please comment on that bug with your suggested solution. [14:22] all are solved ?! [14:22] For touchscreen, it's more a matter of working with the manufacturer to get drivers, unfortunately, or reverse engineering them. [14:22] Celtiore, No :( [14:23] we can use it with ubuntu 8.04 [14:26] persia: done [14:26] now i go guys, i'm sorry, i gotta study [14:26] c ya soon [14:27] Celtiore, Yes, but that's getting rather out of date, and large chunks of MID didn't get properly sorted until 8.10. [14:27] sure [14:55] i'm sorry but last day i ask which deb contain 'gtk-update-icon-cache', and ogra give me the right package, but i don't remember it :( [14:55] who can help me [14:56] There's two easy ways to check. If you have that, try `dpkg -S $(which gtk-update-icon-cache)` [14:56] thanks you [14:57] If you don't, try installing apt-file and running `apt-file search gtk-update-icon-cache` [15:03] or dpkg -S `which gtk-update-icon-cache` [15:03] though iirc there is also a debhelper tool for that [15:03] dh_iconcache ? [15:04] dh_icons, but that solves a slightly different issue. [15:06] "dh_icons is a debhelper program that updates Freedesktop icon caches when needed, using the update-icon-caches program provided by GTK+2.12." [15:06] well, it should provide you the same [15:08] Um, no. [15:08] dh_icons creates debhelper maintainer script stubs that call gtk-update-icon-cache [15:09] If you want to update it locally yourself, this is different. [15:09] You can't call the update at package build time, you need to call dh_icons. Similarly, you can't call dh_icons on an installed system, you need to call gtk-update-icon-cache (or whichever is appropriate for your environment). [15:10] ah, yeah, you are missing the background :) [15:10] dh_iconcache was a slightly different implementation of the debhelper solution, which was introduced as Ubuntu-local, and is now obsolete. [15:10] Ah, true :) [15:10] Celtiore wanted to get rid of a lintian warning :) [15:10] dh_icons is the right solution for that. [15:11] right [16:14] persia, i have a question [16:14] aigo mid have bluetooth and gps [16:14] but i can't find with ubuntu :( [16:15] http://www.midwiki.com/index.php?option=com_fireboard&Itemid=53&func=view&catid=4&id=345#346