[00:10] <asac> ola
[00:10] <asac> someone still awake ;)?
[00:11] <fta> not for long
[09:08]  * asac yawms
[09:58] <asac> bug 214519
[09:58] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 214519 in openoffice.org-dictionaries "English_shouthafrican" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/214519
[09:59] <[reed]> lol
[10:00] <[reed]> shouthafrican?
[10:00] <asac> yeah ;)
[10:00] <asac> thats how language evolve
[10:02] <[reed]> isn't that sabdfl's native language? :)
[10:02] <asac> heheh
[10:02] <asac> its funny, but frequently US folks think that i am from south africa ;)
[10:02] <[reed]> really?
[10:03] <[reed]> you sound German
[10:03] <BUGabundo> do they?
[10:03] <asac> [reed]: yeah. its funny. Lots of US folks seems to have no feeling for dialects whatsoever ;)
[10:04] <fta> asac, most us folks think think there's just US and another obscure foreign country that don't deserve to exist ;)
[10:04] <asac> not that i am much better ;)
[10:04] <asac> hehe
[10:04] <[reed]> do I sound "southern", or just generic American to you?
[10:05] <asac> [reed]: you have quite a bit of an accent ... definitly american ;)
[10:05] <asac> i guess its southern because i know you come from there
[10:05] <asac> but i have other folks from south that talk even more crazy ;)
[10:05] <[reed]> hehe
[10:05] <asac> meaning: you sound more generic i would say
[10:06] <asac> than the other guys I know :)
[10:06] <[reed]> I have four English teachers in my family... they demand perfection in usage of the English language.
[10:06] <asac> [reed]: that worked out well ... just not oxford english ;)
[10:06] <[reed]> hehe
[10:07] <[reed]> fta: did your gf enjoy her present?
[10:07] <asac> present? gf?
[10:07] <fta> [reed], you know i don't expose my life on irc, right?
[10:07] <[reed]> sorry, we can take this to /msg if you want :)
[10:08] <asac> thats ok ;)
[10:08] <BUGabundo> or go to µblogging
[10:08] <asac> right :)
[10:08] <asac> thats the place to state your internal pain
[10:08] <BUGabundo> but fta feels that µblogs should not have comments
[10:08] <BUGabundo> LOL
[10:09] <asac> BUGabundo: did you check what i asked for in the flash mailthread on mt mailing list finally ;)?
[10:09] <BUGabundo> havent check email yet
[10:11] <asac> k
[10:11] <BUGabundo> doing MORE debug on pidgin
[10:11] <asac> what kind of debug?
[10:11] <BUGabundo> it crashs with PA, with pecan, with IRC
[10:11] <BUGabundo> damn it
[10:11] <BUGabundo> asac, trial and error...
[10:11] <asac> PA?
[10:11] <BUGabundo> disabling stuff and turning it on until crash
[10:12] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/321800
[10:12] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 321800 in pidgin "pidgin segfault while removing account" [Undecided,New]
[10:12] <BUGabundo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/110209/
[10:12] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/317897
[10:12] <ubottu> Ubuntu bug 317897 in pulseaudio "pidgin crash with Pulse Audio" [Undecided,New]
[10:12] <BUGabundo> stuff like thatr
[10:13] <BUGabundo> i should just being run it with 'time' just to see how long it lasts
[10:14] <asac> nice
[10:15] <asac> as long as you keep them reproducible its definitly valuable work
[10:15] <asac> ;)
[10:16] <BUGabundo> PA is hard to reproduce!
[10:16] <BUGabundo> it happens a lot, but i have no idea what tiggers it
[10:16] <BUGabundo> the account one, is easy and i've got around it!
[10:17] <BUGabundo> i manually deleted the account!
[10:17] <BUGabundo> from accountx.xml
[10:17] <BUGabundo> need upstream it
[10:18] <asac_> reconnect
[10:18] <asac_> [reed]: did you ever solve your wireless issues in intrepid?
[10:19] <[reed]> 802.1x? it's much better now, though I still occasionally get disconnected
[10:19] <[reed]> but much, much better
[10:19] <[reed]> still haven't recovered all my VPNs
[10:19] <[reed]> since you never committed that patch, afaik
[10:20] <asac_> [reed]: oops really?
[10:20]  * asac_ wonders where this migration code went
[10:20] <asac_> [reed]: are you using the plain intrepid kernel or backport modeuls
[10:20] <asac_> ?
[10:21] <[reed]> plain
[10:21] <[reed]> my main problem I'm having right now is that my screensaver will die
[10:22] <[reed]> and leave my screen hosed
[10:22] <[reed]> and force me to reboot
[10:22] <[reed]> that's been happening about 3+ times a week
[10:22] <asac_> you run screensaver ;)?
[10:22] <[reed]> xscreensaver
[10:22] <[reed]> my computer is on all the time
[10:22] <asac_> yeah. i have black screen
[10:22] <[reed]> I have a laptop docked with an external monitor
[10:23] <[reed]> yeah
[10:23] <[reed]> I should try that
[10:24] <asac_> [reed]: or use a non-openGL one
[10:24]  * asac_ assumes its advanced stuff that breaks this
[10:25] <BUGabundo> asac_, "See my point?" no
[10:26] <BUGabundo> asac_, do i need flash plugin to use the 64 bits plugin?
[10:26] <asac_> BUGabundo: heh. well. you pointed out something
[10:26]  * BUGabundo is confused
[10:26] <asac_> i asked you about something
[10:26] <asac_> and you didnt even bother to try that ;)
[10:27] <asac_> the bug you reported were the dangling symlinks
[10:27] <asac_> and nothing about 64bits plugin
[10:29] <asac_> BUGabundo: and no. you dont need flashplugin-nonfree package for that
[10:29] <asac_> but you also must not use that package if you want 64 bits
[10:29] <asac_> especially replacing the so manually is rather a bad idea ;)
[10:29] <BUGabundo> asac_, since the beggining it was about me replacing it with 64 bits
[10:29] <BUGabundo> and found that there were some broken links
[10:29] <BUGabundo> when flash didnt work for ephifany
[10:29] <asac_> yes. the broken links is what is interesting to us
[10:30] <asac_> the other stuff is you doing something wrong ;)
[10:30] <BUGabundo> i did remove the package...
[10:30] <BUGabundo> and only then i placed the plugin
[10:30] <asac_> BUGabundo: right. so i asked you to remove symlinks manually ... install the package
[10:30] <BUGabundo> i followed adobe instructions
[10:30] <asac_> and check whether they reappear
[10:30] <BUGabundo> ok
[10:30] <BUGabundo> let me test that now
[10:30] <asac_> thanks
=== asac_ is now known as asac
[10:35] <BUGabundo> asac, forgot where the plugin is placed
[10:35] <BUGabundo> lol
[10:35] <BUGabundo> got to make a backup first
[10:36] <BUGabundo> /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:38] <BUGabundo> rm: remove symbolic link `/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so'? y
[10:38] <BUGabundo> removed `/usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so'
[10:38] <BUGabundo> rm: remove symbolic link `/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so'? y
[10:38] <BUGabundo> removed `/usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so'
[10:38] <BUGabundo> rm: remove regular file `/usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so'? y
[10:38] <BUGabundo> removed `/usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/libflashplayer.so'
[10:39]  * BUGabundo wonders why installer asked twice for path
[10:43] <asac> installer?
[10:43] <asac> BUGabundo: please ... remove those manually ... then install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:43] <asac> and check that the links dont exist
[10:43] <asac> after that ... go ahead and remove everything and install your adobe thing
[10:43] <asac> ;)
[10:44] <BUGabundo> humm
[10:44] <BUGabundo> asac, the adobe plugin is not installable
[10:44] <BUGabundo> i just copy it to location of old nonfree plugin
[10:45] <asac> BUGabundo: thats wrong
[10:45] <asac> BUGabundo: please first do the stuff
[10:45] <asac> then i can tell you where to put that
[10:45] <asac> ;)
[10:46] <BUGabundo> deleted, and installed
[10:46] <asac> well ... i think its wrong ...depending on what "location" is for you
[10:46] <BUGabundo> checkign now links
[10:46] <asac> BUGabundo: thanks
[10:46] <BUGabundo> and removing agian next
[10:46] <asac> BUGabundo: do the links exist?
[10:46] <BUGabundo> Committing to: /etc/
[10:46] <BUGabundo> added alternatives/firefox-flashplugin
[10:46] <BUGabundo> added alternatives/iceape-flashplugin
[10:46] <BUGabundo> added alternatives/iceweasel-flashplugin
[10:46] <BUGabundo> added alternatives/midbrowser-flashplugin
[10:46] <BUGabundo> added alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[10:46] <BUGabundo> added alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[10:46] <BUGabundo> added alternatives/xulrunner-flashplugin
[10:46] <BUGabundo> Committed revision 383.
[10:46] <asac> thats not what i asked for ;)
[10:47] <BUGabundo> $ mlocate libflashplayer.so | more
[10:47] <BUGabundo> /home/bugabundo/temp/libflashplayer.so
[10:47] <BUGabundo> /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[10:47] <BUGabundo> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[10:47] <BUGabundo> /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[10:47] <BUGabundo> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[10:47] <asac> i asked for the dangling stuff in /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/
[10:47] <BUGabundo> /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[10:47] <asac> BUGabundo: do those still exist?
[10:47] <BUGabundo> all links are okay
[10:47] <BUGabundo> apt-get remove now
[10:48] <BUGabundo> should i issue --purge too?
[10:48] <asac> BUGabundo: yes. but if you remove the package three get left over
[10:48] <asac> BUGabundo: shouldnt matter ... just remove it
[10:48] <asac> Jazzva: ^^
[10:48] <asac> nspluginwrapper creates the default locations even though we provide NSPLUGINDIR
[10:48] <asac> bug
[10:48] <BUGabundo> Committing to: /etc/
[10:48] <BUGabundo> missing alternatives/firefox-flashplugin
[10:48] <BUGabundo> missing alternatives/iceape-flashplugin
[10:48] <BUGabundo> missing alternatives/iceweasel-flashplugin
[10:48] <BUGabundo> missing alternatives/midbrowser-flashplugin
[10:48] <BUGabundo> missing alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> missing alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> missing alternatives/xulrunner-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> deleted alternatives/firefox-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> deleted alternatives/iceape-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> deleted alternatives/iceweasel-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> deleted alternatives/midbrowser-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> deleted alternatives/mozilla-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> deleted alternatives/xulrunner-addons-flashplugin
[10:49] <asac> those are not interesting ... the other links are
[10:49] <BUGabundo> deleted alternatives/xulrunner-flashplugin
[10:49] <BUGabundo> Committed revision 384.
[10:49] <BUGabundo> and i'm left with broken links now
[10:49] <BUGabundo> ls: cannot access /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so: No such file or directory
[10:49] <BUGabundo> ls: cannot access /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so: No such file or directory
[10:49] <BUGabundo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 57 2009-01-27 10:39 /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so -> /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree//npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[10:49] <BUGabundo> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 57 2009-01-27 10:39 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so -> /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree//npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[10:52] <BUGabundo> do i remove those manually now asac ?
[10:52] <asac> BUGabundo: bug 321814
[10:52] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 321814 in nspluginwrapper "nspluginwrapper creates "default" links even though NSPLUGINDIR is set" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321814
[10:52] <asac> BUGabundo: go ahead
[10:52] <asac> whatever you do, just do it ;)
[10:54] <BUGabundo> deleted
[10:54] <BUGabundo> now, where should i place flash adobe 64 bits so all my system can use it?
[10:54] <BUGabundo> opera, ephifany, FF3.xx etc?
[11:00] <BUGabundo> asac, ^^^^^^^^
[11:01] <asac> BUGabundo: try /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/
[11:01] <asac> otherwise opera probably wont use it
[11:02] <BUGabundo> no need for alternatives input?
[11:02] <asac> BUGabundo: depends. if you dont have any other flash stuff installed then no
[11:04] <BUGabundo> ok
[11:05] <BUGabundo> epi is working
[11:05] <BUGabundo> testing opera,fennec and konq next
[11:06] <BUGabundo> konq Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Get the latest Flash player.
[11:07] <BUGabundo> fennec works
[11:07] <BUGabundo> opera works
[11:07] <BUGabundo> so its only konquer that doesnt
[11:11] <asac> BUGabundo: not sure about konq, but you have to update the known plugins db in the preferences dialog somewhere i guess
[11:13] <BUGabundo> okay
[11:13] <BUGabundo> no mather
[11:13] <BUGabundo> dont use it much!
[11:13] <BUGabundo> just checking
[11:42] <[reed]> asac: did you know VirtualBox uses XPCOM?
[11:54] <asac> [reed]: really?
[11:54] <asac> reference?
[11:58] <[reed]> asac: http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Developer_FAQ
[12:10] <asac> cool
[12:51] <StevenK> Hi guys! I've packaged up webfav which is used by Ubuntu Netbook Remix, and would like to team maintain it, I guess it needs to all go into bzr like the guide says?
[13:06] <asac> fta2: remind me to push 460913 when tree opens after b3 freeze
[13:06] <asac> StevenK: yes that would be good
[13:06] <fta2> mozilla bug 460913
[13:06] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 460913 in Build Config "Installer shouldn't copy xulrunner files into Firefox install directory" [Normal,Assigned] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460913
[13:06] <asac> StevenK: using full source upstream branch ... you create that with med-xpi-unpack
[13:07] <asac> fta2: http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/Firefox/ ... RESTRICTED ;)
[13:07] <StevenK> asac: It doesn't include a .xpi, it's just a .jar
[13:07] <asac> hmmm ... but doesnt affect firefox ... so maybe its good
[13:07] <StevenK> asac: If you want to prod the tarball, I can point you at it
[13:08] <asac> StevenK: please do a tar tzf | pastebinit -i - ;)
[13:08] <asac> yes point me to it
[13:09] <StevenK> asac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/110278/ ; https://edge.launchpad.net/webfav/+download
[13:10] <asac> StevenK: ok. is launchpad the place where thats maintained?
[13:11] <StevenK> asac: Yes. I'm not sure if upstream have a bzr branch
[13:12] <asac> StevenK: using .xpi's is usually easier as it will allow us to update extensions in batches. if you cannot rely on the .xpi (e.g. its not released, has binary components or doesnt include a license file), remember to place good instructions in the package on how to get new upstream tarball
[13:12] <StevenK> asac: I prod upstream, which are the OEM guys
[13:12] <asac> in anycase, use a .upstream branch like described on wiki
[13:12] <asac> in your caes the BUILD_COMMAND probably is just build.sh
[13:13] <asac> so you can use xpi.mk without many changes
[13:14] <asac> StevenK: all clear? questions? ;)?
[13:14] <StevenK> asac: Nope
[13:14] <StevenK> asac: Actually, yes. What do I set the maintainer to?
[13:14] <StevenK> asac: And is a binary package name of webfav acceptable?
[13:15] <asac> yes thats a good name
[13:15] <asac> StevenK: maintainer ... i think we use ubuntu dev for that
[13:15] <asac> check other extensions in https://code.edge.launchpad.net/firefox-extensions
[13:15] <asac> or whatever is on wiki ;)
[13:15] <asac> Maintainer: Ubuntu MOTU Developers <ubuntu-motu@lists.ubuntu.com>
[13:16] <StevenK> Ah, just MOTU
[13:16] <asac> for now yes
[13:16] <asac> give me a heads up when ready ... would also like to upload it to debian
[13:16] <asac> otherwise at some point debian introduces their own package
[13:17] <StevenK> asac: It's used for netbook-launcher, it doesn't make sense for Debian
[13:19] <asac> mozilla Bug 471443
[13:19] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 471443 in Blocklisting "permanently blocklist VLC plugin" [Blocker,New] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471443
[13:19] <asac> StevenK: you never know ;)
[13:21] <fta2> bug 183492
[13:21] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 183492 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] Open Komodo Edit" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/183492
[13:22] <StevenK> asac: Hehe
[13:22] <StevenK> asac: I will deal with branches tomorrow and prod you when I'm ready
[13:26] <asac> thanks
[13:33] <StevenK> asac: Uh, if I push it to ~stevenk on LP, then only I can upload to the branch ...
[13:38] <asac> StevenK: once its reviewed by us we will push it to ~ubuntu-dev
[13:39] <asac> StevenK: use that proactively as the Vcs-Bzr: header in control
[13:39] <StevenK> Right, noted
[13:39] <asac> .... i think thats also in the xample in wiki and XPI.TEMPLATE
[13:41] <asac> StevenK: if XPI.TEMPLATE or wiki has somehting wrong for that let me know so we can fix that for future
[13:42] <StevenK> asac: It should mention that it will get pulled to ~ubuntu-dev so that other team members can change it
[13:48] <asac> StevenK: well. the XPI.TEMPLATE control should just be correct  ;)
[13:48] <StevenK> asac: branch pushing
[13:48] <StevenK> Pushed
[13:48] <StevenK> bzr+ssh://bazaar.launchpad.net/~stevenk/firefox-extensions/webfav.ubuntu
[13:49] <Jazzva> asac: Ok, thanks for the notice. I'll look why npw does so on Saturday, after the exam, if that's not too late.
[13:50] <asac> Jazzva: thats fine
[13:50] <asac> the bug is milestoned so we will remember :)
[13:51] <Jazzva> yeah :)
[13:58] <StevenK> asac: So, shall I go to bed or stick around to upload webfav? :-)
[13:59] <asac> StevenK: if its good i will sponsor it for you if you want
[13:59] <StevenK> asac: I'm a core-dev
[13:59]  * StevenK hasn't need a sponsor for a while
[13:59] <asac> StevenK: heh ... still i can sponsor you while you are in bed
[13:59]  * asac would be happy if everything got sponsored for him
[14:00] <StevenK> Hehe
[14:00] <StevenK> asac: You saw where the upstream tarball is, so sure, go nuts
[14:00] <asac> StevenK: thats good ... can you use bzr bd --merge --export-upstream=. --export-upstream-revision=1 --builder='debuild -S' ?
[14:01] <asac> StevenK: just upload ... its fine
[14:01] <asac> StevenK: err
[14:01] <StevenK> bzr: ERROR: unknown command "bd"
[14:01] <asac> StevenK: now you used mobile developers?
[14:01] <asac> StevenK: apt-get install bzr-builddeb
[14:01] <StevenK> asac: So it seems, let me fix that
[14:02] <asac> StevenK: thanks. feel free to add yourself to XSBC-Original-Maintaainer
[14:02] <asac> which means that you will be the contact ;)
[14:02] <StevenK> Maybe I'll add you :-P
[14:02] <StevenK> asac: Maintainer change pushed
[14:05] <asac> StevenK: ok cool. next time kep stuff UNRELEASED and makea  final RELEASE X.x.0ubuntu1 to ubuntu/jaunty commit
[14:05] <asac> StevenK: go ahead
[14:05] <asac> ;)
[14:05] <asac> (i assume you tested it :))
[14:05] <StevenK> It builds, which is what I care about right now
=== begin is now known as Lebanon
=== Lebanon is now known as h4ckX
=== h4ckX is now known as helper
[16:30] <asac> @time
[16:30] <ubottu> Current time in Etc/UTC: January 27 2009, 16:30:09 - No meetings scheduled
[16:33] <pochu> hey hey folks!
[16:33] <asac> pochu: hi
[16:34] <asac> pochu: so on top of ubuntu2 its probably that max version is 1.9.* ... which should be 1.9.0.*
[16:34] <asac> (in the glue code)
[16:34] <pochu> isn't that already patched in jaunty?
[16:36] <pochu> asac: removing 1.9.1 did the trick
[16:36] <pochu> gonna check the NM issue
[16:38] <pochu> asac: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/20544157/buildlog_ubuntu-jaunty-i386.liferea_1.4.23-0ubuntu1_FULLYBUILT.txt.gz
[16:38] <pochu> Use X Session Management........ : yes
[16:38] <pochu> that's it
[16:38] <pochu> Use DBUS........................ : yes
[16:38] <pochu> Use NetworkManager.............. : no
[16:38] <pochu> GNUTLS SSL/HTTPS Support........ : yes
[16:38] <pochu> maybe the -dev package for NM changed
[16:40] <asac> pochu: in the glue code in liferea there is a test for 1.9.* or even 2
[16:40] <asac> change that to 1.9.0.*
[16:41] <asac> pochu: hmmm ... in mozsupport.cpp ... there already is 1.9.0.*
[16:41] <asac> so 1.9.1 shouldnt hurt
[16:44] <pochu> it did :)
[16:46] <asac> pochu: check that you are really running that version
[16:46] <asac> it was fixed at some point
[16:46] <asac> because of exactly your issue
[16:46] <pochu> I have 1.4.23-0ubuntu1
[16:47] <pochu> but I don't really use this VM a lot, maybe it's something wrong with it
[16:47] <pochu> I've updated it and rebooted before trying though
[16:49] <BUGabundo> guys
[16:50] <bugabundo_> guys
[16:50] <bugabundo_> is anyone going to look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.1/+bug/305567
[16:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 305567 in firefox-3.1 "ALT+1-n wont change tabs" [Undecided,New]
[16:50] <bugabundo_> any time soon?
[16:52] <pochu>    PKG_CHECK_MODULES([NM], [dbus-glib-1 libnm_glib],enable_nm=yes,enable_nm=no)
[16:52] <pochu> It's failing there
[16:52] <pochu> but AFAICS both libnm-glib-dev and libdbus-glib-1-dev were installed
[16:52] <pochu> and they provide dbus-glib-1.pc and libnm_glib.pc
[16:54] <pochu> and configure is called with --enable-nm
[16:55]  * pochu wonders what he is overlooking
[16:58] <pochu> hmm
[16:59] <pochu> aha! found it :)
[16:59]  * pochu comments on the bug
[16:59] <bugabundo_> lol
[16:59] <bugabundo_> self discussion helped u
[17:00] <fta2> asac, do you still have your mini 9 ?
[17:01] <fta2> asac, does it do 3G ?
[17:01] <pochu> bugabundo_: heh
[17:01] <white> asac: do you have time to reply to my email?
[17:02] <asac> seems now
[17:03] <asac> fta2: you need a modem on top
[17:03] <asac> not sure if they are built in somewhere yet
[17:04] <pochu> asac: I've added an NM task to #321473
[17:04] <fta2> asac, i wondered where to stick the SIM card in, so basically, i understand you can't
[17:05] <asac> bug #321473
[17:05] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 321473 in liferea "liferea doesnt handle network-manager online/offline state" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/321473
[17:05] <asac> fta2: you can
[17:05] <asac> fta2: the slot is there ... its just that the pci card isnt built in by default
[17:05] <asac> the slot is hidden under the battery
[17:05] <bugabundo__> asac, i once asked you if NM allowed long PUKs
[17:05] <bugabundo__> never got a reply back
[17:06] <fta2> oh, a SIM slot under the battery. well, why not. I was trying to figure out if i need my 3G USB card with a dell mini 9/10/12 or if it is native and just needs the SIM card
[17:19] <asac> fta: you need a PCI card for mini 9 ... i think the new ones have that integrated
[17:19] <asac> fta: its a mini-pci card
[17:19] <asac> maybe you can select it on dell website as "with modem"
[17:19] <asac> if you have such a card you can just push the SIM into the battery slot
[17:22] <pochu> View->Threads->Threads with Unread rocks :)
[17:34] <asac> pochu: thats what i am doing on my massive bugfolders ;)
[17:34] <asac> still doesnt get much less it seems :)
[17:34] <pochu> heh
[17:34] <pochu> Mark all as read
[17:34] <pochu> that should help ;)
[17:36] <asac> yeah ... ctrl+g ;)
[17:36] <asac> or something
[17:36] <asac> shift g
[17:36] <asac> (by thread
[17:36] <asac> )
[17:36]  * asac goes shgathering food
[23:39] <[reed]> fta: do you need 460913 on 1.9.0, too?
[23:39] <[reed]> or just 1.9.2 and 1.9.1?
[23:39] <fta> mozilla bug 460913
[23:39] <ubottu> Mozilla bug 460913 in Build Config "Installer shouldn't copy xulrunner files into Firefox install directory" [Normal,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=460913
[23:39] <fta> all
[23:39] <fta> please
[23:40] <asac> 1.9.0 isnt that important
[23:40] <asac> as long as we fix stuff in current dev trees that should be good enough
[23:40] <asac> after all we ship the patch already ;)
[23:40] <fta> yes, agreed
[23:42] <asac> imo we shouldnt put that work on the "stable" update process. ... especially since we are the ones asking for an even more strict stable branch policy ;)
[23:42] <fta> donno what's happening with ppa builders, it's impossible to build anything today
[23:42] <fta> https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds
[23:42] <asac> fta: then upload to archive ;) ... there are surely sponsoring bugs open with low hanging fruits ;)
[23:42] <asac> if you do a bunch you appear on th ehall of fame ;)
[23:43] <asac> http://people.ubuntu.com/~dholbach/sponsoring/
[23:43] <fta> you know i'm not looking for fame
[23:44] <asac> its still a good thing to do ;) ... you probably remember how it feels to wait for a sponsor ;)
[23:44] <asac> and making other shappy feels nice ... especially if they are thankful ;)
[23:45] <fta> i still have so many things undone in my list :(
[23:45] <asac> yeah ;)
[23:46] <asac> just wanted to point out that no need to wait for builders ;)
[23:46] <asac> fta: so in 4 weeks its feature freeze
[23:46] <fta> i'm not really waiting, i just wanted gwibber to be done so i can call for testers before i push to the team ppa
[23:46] <asac> we should probably think about what we want before
[23:47] <asac> fta: just push to team ppa ;) (my opinion) ... its not really that the changes are that intrusive ;)
[23:47] <fta> i wanted the 1.9.1 test suite to be ok for b3, at least xul, if not ff
[23:49] <fta> i wanted at least a preview of openkomodo, i'm stuck with the siloed python and have no more time to spend on this for now.
[23:50] <asac> fta: is the preview really bound to archive feature freeze?
[23:50] <fta> upstream contacted me to boost the chromium package, they want to ship something regularly
[23:50] <asac> i expect that this will be in ppa anyway
[23:50] <fta> no; it's not
[23:50] <fta> yes
[23:50] <asac> ok so its not important to in this "what to do before feature freeze" discussion
[23:51] <fta> i wanted to (re)start doing daily builds of xul/ff
[23:51] <fta> i wanted to finish the -qt merge
[23:53] <fta> and more
[23:55] <fta> asac, lol, that's a start :)
[23:55] <asac> fta: start doing it
[23:55] <asac> https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily
[23:56] <asac> ok activated
[23:57] <fta> activated?
[23:59] <asac> the ppa ;)
[23:59] <asac> and µblogged ;)
[23:59] <asac> fta: i would really prefer that we get all the daily scripts to some place ... so that someone else can run them too
[23:59] <asac> ;)