| sadmac | Keybuk: ping | 02:16 |
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| === sadmac_ is now known as sadmac | ||
| keesj | sadmac2: I am trying to download your state machine stuff from git but can't find the right git url http://people.fedoraproject.org/gitweb?p=sadmac/public_git/upstate.git;a=summary | 11:04 |
| Keybuk | sadmac: hey | 12:20 |
| keesj | sadmac: ping | 15:47 |
| keesj | sadmac2: ping | 15:47 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: pong | 15:47 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: yeah, you had a git question while I was asleep? | 15:47 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: and you rang? | 15:48 |
| keesj | indeed , what is the git url of your state machine stuff? | 15:48 |
| Keybuk | sadmac2: you rang | 15:48 |
| Keybuk | <sadmac> Keybuk: ping | 15:48 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: ah. so I did | 15:48 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: I was thinking of replacements for the "before" keyword. What do you think of "meanwhile" ? | 15:49 |
| Keybuk | lol, no ;) | 15:53 |
| sadmac2 | well pee on my parade why don't ya? | 15:53 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: git://git.fedorapeople.org/sadmac/public_git/upstate.git | 15:55 |
| keesj | http://www.paste-it.net/public/c2b595c/ (tipical git error message) | 16:09 |
| sadmac2 | typical even | 16:10 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: git://fedorapeople.org/~sadmac/upstate.git | 16:11 |
| sadmac2 | gitweb phails at displaying url | 16:11 |
| keesj | that worked thanks | 16:11 |
| sadmac2 | np | 16:11 |
| keesj | hmm it's not what I hoped for :( | 16:17 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: what'd you hope for? | 16:19 |
| keesj | more something with states events and transitions | 16:21 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: its more predicates, implications, and events | 16:22 |
| sadmac2 | and now class | 16:22 |
| keesj | and would it run as daemon as upstart event listener or you you see it more intergrated into upstart? | 16:24 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: I can see both | 17:27 |
| sadmac2 | keesj: but no matter. Upstream doesn't like it | 17:28 |
| sadmac2 | :D | 17:28 |
| Keybuk | Upstream is a grumpy old man | 17:32 |
| sadmac2 | my open source life is riddled with grumpy old men | 17:51 |
| * sadmac2 works in the company that employs Drepper | 17:51 | |
| sadmac2 | Ulrich "Pointless BSD Crap!" Drepper | 17:51 |
| Keybuk | ? | 17:52 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: next time you bump into uli, ask him when we'll get strlcpy in glibc | 17:52 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: wear a helmet. | 17:52 |
| Keybuk | why do you want strlcpy? | 17:53 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: I don't particularly care really, but I don't think its an ungodly sin. | 17:55 |
| Keybuk | once you add a function, you have to support it forever | 17:55 |
| Keybuk | worse still is adding a function because BSD has it, when Solaris has it too and behaves differently | 17:55 |
| Keybuk | iirc strlcpy correctly, it's a "C strings are hard, I can't be arsed, let's go shopping" kind of function | 17:57 |
| Keybuk | it makes programmers lazyly ignore errors | 17:57 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: that was roughly the justification for not including it. Honestly its a fairly minor change ofer the existing str*cpy functions | 18:00 |
| sadmac2 | I just wanted it so I could compile jot from FreeBSD | 18:00 |
| Keybuk | sure, but then you'd fail to compile something from Solaris | 18:01 |
| Keybuk | so I can see Ulrich's point | 18:01 |
| Keybuk | having someone who says "no" a lot in charge of libc is better than someone who always says "yes" | 18:01 |
| sadmac2 | Keybuk: agreed. there's a difference between "no" and "I'm confiscating your spinal cord" though. | 18:03 |
| Keybuk | :) | 18:05 |
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