sadmacKeybuk: ping02:16
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keesjsadmac2: I am trying to download your state machine stuff from git but can't find the right git url http://people.fedoraproject.org/gitweb?p=sadmac/public_git/upstate.git;a=summary11:04
Keybuksadmac: hey12:20
keesjsadmac: ping15:47
keesjsadmac2: ping15:47
sadmac2keesj: pong15:47
sadmac2keesj: yeah, you had a git question while I was asleep?15:47
sadmac2Keybuk: and you rang?15:48
keesjindeed , what is the git url of your state machine stuff? 15:48
Keybuksadmac2: you rang15:48
Keybuk<sadmac> Keybuk: ping15:48
sadmac2Keybuk: ah. so I did15:48
sadmac2Keybuk: I was thinking of replacements for the "before" keyword. What do you think of "meanwhile" ?15:49
Keybuklol, no ;)15:53
sadmac2well pee on my parade why don't ya?15:53
sadmac2keesj: git://git.fedorapeople.org/sadmac/public_git/upstate.git15:55
keesjhttp://www.paste-it.net/public/c2b595c/ (tipical git error message)16:09
sadmac2typical even16:10
sadmac2keesj: git://fedorapeople.org/~sadmac/upstate.git16:11
sadmac2gitweb phails at displaying url16:11
keesjthat worked thanks16:11
keesjhmm it's not what I hoped for :(16:17
sadmac2keesj: what'd you hope for?16:19
keesjmore something with  states events and transitions16:21
sadmac2keesj: its more predicates, implications, and events16:22
sadmac2and now class16:22
keesjand would it run as daemon as upstart event listener or you you see it more intergrated into upstart?16:24
sadmac2keesj: I can see both17:27
sadmac2keesj: but no matter. Upstream doesn't like it17:28
KeybukUpstream is a grumpy old man17:32
sadmac2my open source life is riddled with grumpy old men17:51
* sadmac2 works in the company that employs Drepper17:51
sadmac2Ulrich "Pointless BSD Crap!" Drepper17:51
sadmac2Keybuk: next time you bump into uli, ask him when we'll get strlcpy in glibc17:52
sadmac2Keybuk: wear a helmet.17:52
Keybukwhy do you want strlcpy?17:53
sadmac2Keybuk: I don't particularly care really, but I don't think its an ungodly sin.17:55
Keybukonce you add a function, you have to support it forever17:55
Keybukworse still is adding a function because BSD has it, when Solaris has it too and behaves differently17:55
Keybukiirc strlcpy correctly, it's a "C strings are hard, I can't be arsed, let's go shopping" kind of function17:57
Keybukit makes programmers lazyly ignore errors17:57
sadmac2Keybuk: that was roughly the justification for not including it. Honestly its a fairly minor change ofer the existing str*cpy functions18:00
sadmac2I just wanted it so I could compile jot from FreeBSD18:00
Keybuksure, but then you'd fail to compile something from Solaris18:01
Keybukso I can see Ulrich's point18:01
Keybukhaving someone who says "no" a lot in charge of libc is better than someone who always says "yes"18:01
sadmac2Keybuk: agreed. there's a difference between "no" and "I'm confiscating your spinal cord" though.18:03

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