[00:16] <nikolam> zoredache, terminating gui of an app does not kill app on most cases.
[00:17] <nikolam> one should use ps -A | grep app to find app (or in top) and use kill or kill -9 command to kill it
[00:17] <nikolam> or with system monitor gui
[00:25] <kahrn> has anyone checked out the ubuntu pocket guide yet?
[00:25] <kahrn> (http://ubuntupocketguide.com)
[00:41] <sml1226> favorite file manager???
[00:42] <sml1226> other than thunar?
[00:44] <sml1226> bsc sucks and thunar is screwed up on my machine
[00:44] <zoredache> vifm?  I suppose you where looking for a gui though
[00:44] <sml1226> going to try nautilus
[00:44] <sml1226> what do you think of that?
[00:45] <sml1226> yeah needs a gui
[00:45] <zoredache> I don't really have an opinion
[00:46] <sml1226> have you tried nautilus?
[00:47] <zoredache> nautilus is the standard file manager you get with a gnome install of ubuntu isn't it?
[00:47] <sml1226> think so
[00:47] <sml1226> havent used ubuntu though just xubuntu
[00:49] <sml1226> i think nautilus will be fine (still not fully installed) so how do you set it as the default file manager
[00:51] <zoredache> if it is the only one running, then it is the default
[00:51] <sml1226> well thunar is installed and default now so how do i change that???
[00:53] <sml1226> it might do it but it hasn't yet
[00:59] <sml1226> nautilus doesn't work either
[01:02] <nikolam> sml1226, pcmanfm
[01:02] <nikolam> starts in a second
[01:03] <nikolam> i start pcmanfm and other apps with one click with quicklauncher xfce panel plugin.
[01:04] <sml1226> gui?
[01:04] <nikolam> of course
[01:04] <sml1226> cool will try
[01:04] <sml1226> how to set as default
[01:05] <nikolam> why should you set it as default?
[01:05] <nikolam> Start it with on eclick from quicklauncher
[01:06] <sml1226> thunar is screwed up and won't work
[01:06] <nikolam> it works but have issues.
[01:06] <nikolam> what is your main problem with thunar
[01:06] <sml1226> there is a bug in my ver that keeps it from starting
[01:07] <nikolam> only catch with pcmanfm is that it does not support trash can
[01:07] <sml1226> cant access anything with it
[01:07] <nikolam> everything you delet is like using rm
[01:07] <nikolam> sml1226, what xubuntu u use , version and 32/64bit?
[01:07] <sml1226> 8.10 ppc+ps3
[01:08] <nikolam> sml1226, also try to use krusader.
[01:08] <sml1226> isnt krusader for kde?
[01:09] <nikolam> ppc :) nice i didnt know they still make one, since i heard that ppc in not supported yet
[01:09] <sml1226> dont really need or want to column
[01:09] <sml1226> 2*
[01:09] <nikolam> sml1226, did you find soulution to expand RAM to more then 256Mb?
[01:09] <sml1226> nope
[01:10] <nikolam> u can try it. it pulls just kde libs upon install etc.
[01:10] <sml1226> and actually the ps3 restricts your use to 192MB
[01:10] <nikolam> ? 192 ??
[01:10] <sml1226> it keeps the rest for itself
[01:10] <sml1226> not really sure
[01:10] <nikolam> I know about other 256mb ati restrictions and 2 spu restrictions but 192?
[01:11] <nikolam> do you have some software builded espacially for cell?
[01:11] <sml1226> yeah it keeps the 9th spu and all but 192mb for running the ps3 w/o apps or oses
[01:11] <sml1226> nothing special for cell yet
[01:12] <nikolam> I was thinking of using ps3 as main machine 3 years ago. but since there was no way to expand ran i abandoned idea. But it is great to use ps3 that way
[01:12] <sml1226> even with the minimal RAM it blows my pc away
[01:12] <nikolam> ps3 could be even greater machine if one could use more ram with it. etc
[01:12] <sml1226> granted the pc is total crap
[01:13] <nikolam> yes, shure :)
[01:13] <nikolam> ok so,
[01:13] <sml1226> yah gpu access and 1gb of RAM and this thing would fly
[01:13] <nikolam> I use 8.04 LTS 64bit with amdx2 and 2gigs
[01:14] <nikolam> yes but i was thinking more 4 gigs and full gpu access, yes
[01:14] <sml1226> had 8.04 on my pc but went back to xp because i needed to print
[01:14] <nikolam> like home computer it would blow away
[01:15] <sml1226> well those 8 cores at full speed can render some crazy graphics w/o the gpu
[01:15] <nikolam> BUT Sony pricks did what they did. But XB360 loosers even can`t start linux. microsoft coded it so it can use only approved software by microsoft
[01:15] <nikolam> yes but 192 mb..
[01:15] <sml1226> yeah that sucks
[01:16] <nikolam> but even with it, it is ok to use linux for office, media, surfing and everything
[01:17] <sml1226> yeah ps3 browser sucks ansd isn't fullscreen so 1080p firefox is amazing
[01:17] <nikolam> I was using p3-733 with 256mb with xubuntu before. I was content with it.
[01:17] <nikolam> I still have it running on 8.04 lts now.
[01:17] <sml1226> wish it gave access to the music and pic folders on other partition though
[01:18] <sml1226> mine was a celeron-600 with 384MB
[01:20] <sml1226> got to go
[01:29] <sml1226> file manager like thunar?
[01:31] <sml1226> like pcmanfm but no trash access
[01:39] <sml1226> hello
[01:39] <Hellwire> hi
[01:39] <Hellwire> :)
[01:39] <sml1226> know any file managers like thunar
[01:40] <Hellwire> ah, i just use thunar. sorry
[01:40] <sml1226> ok
[01:40] <sml1226> got probs with mine and cant do much
[01:40] <Hellwire> ah
[01:40] <Hellwire> did you try uninstalling/reinstalling?
[01:41] <sml1226> yep same prob
[01:41] <Hellwire> weird
[01:41] <sml1226> i know
[01:41] <Hellwire> i'm not an xubuntu expert
[01:41] <Hellwire> i just use it :P
[01:41] <sml1226> tried pcman but no trash access
[01:41] <Hellwire> that sucks
[01:41] <sml1226> yeah
[01:42] <sml1226> will use it until they patch it
[01:42] <Hellwire> I like xfce a lot better than gnome. its not because i dont have much ram or anything, its just a nice clean interface
[01:42] <Hellwire> :)
[01:43] <sml1226> thinkt ts with  ppc+ps3 version
[01:43] <Hellwire> ohhh
[01:44] <Hellwire> how do i hide my host?
[01:44] <sml1226> there were a few on bugzilla with the same prob
[01:44] <sml1226> what?
[01:44] <Hellwire> i know it doesnt show my ip in it, thanks to my isp, but still
[01:44] <Hellwire> * [Hellwire] (n=cody@mnpl-04-1888.dsl.iowatelecom.net): Cody Mitchell
[01:44] <sml1226> oh not sure
[01:44] <Hellwire> darn
[01:45] <sml1226> says my real name is purple???
[01:46] <Hellwire> lol
[01:46] <Hellwire> weird
[01:46] <sml1226> how do i set that up right?
[01:46] <sml1226> all i did was use my username
[01:47] <Hellwire> whats your client?
[01:47] <Hellwire> xchat, kvirc, etf
[01:47] <Hellwire> etc*
[01:47] <sml1226> pidgin
[01:47] <Hellwire> hmm
[01:48] <Hellwire> never used pidgin for irc... sorry
[01:48] <sml1226> what u using?
[01:48] <Hellwire> XChat
[01:52] <sml1226> xchat works with my name
[01:52] <Hellwire> :)
[01:52] <sml1226> pidgin says purple though
[01:52] <Hellwire> weird
[01:52] <Hellwire> purple pidgins... they just dont make em like they used to
[01:53] <sml1226> yeah its weird
[01:54] <sml1226> anybody use pidgin
[01:56] <sml1226> guess not
[01:56] <sml1226> :(
[01:56] <Hellwire> lol
[01:57] <Hellwire> hmm, i had to use this nick because my usual is taken... what's my bot's name gonna be? or does freenode even allow bots? (just a channel bot, changes topic and stuff)
[01:58] <sml1226> this is my psn id so thats why i use it
[01:58] <Hellwire> ah
[01:58]  * Hellwire usually uses Cody... ><
[01:59] <sml1226> cant use that?
[01:59] <Hellwire> nope. someone has it already
[01:59] <cody-somerville> lol
[01:59] <Hellwire> obviously. this network is huge
[01:59] <Hellwire> :P
[01:59] <sml1226> there he is
[01:59] <Iowa_Cody> :P
[01:59] <sml1226> lol
[01:59] <Iowa_Cody> lol
[01:59] <Iowa_Cody> I like hellwire better
[01:59] <sml1226> lol
[02:00]  * Iowa_Cody set a timer to change his nick back
[02:00] <Iowa_Cody> lol
[02:00] <Iowa_Cody> xchat timers confuse meh
[02:01] <sml1226> how do you set a quit message???
[02:01] <Hellwire> /quit [message]
[02:02] <sml1226> ok thanks
[02:02] <Hellwire> np
[02:02] <Hellwire> bbl, :)
[02:02] <sml1226> see ya
[02:02] <Hellwire> bai
[02:02] <devin> can someone help me with a broadcom card?
[02:02] <sml1226> nope
[02:03] <sml1226> no idea
[02:03] <devin> crap
[02:03] <devin> I need to get it working, my only connection is wireless
[02:03] <sml1226> i just started using linux
[02:03] <devin> me too
[02:04] <sml1226> my drivers are all included (ps3 version)
[02:04] <devin> oh
[02:04] <devin> nice, I want a ps3
[02:04] <devin> so does it run good?
[02:04] <sml1226> linux on it?
[02:04] <devin> yeah
[02:05] <sml1226> it should but you must get an older version cuz 8.10 is buggy
[02:05] <devin> yeah, that's only expected
[02:05] <sml1226> i got 8.10 with a lot of probs
[02:06] <devin> does video work good? considering the graphics card issue
[02:06] <sml1226> thunar has a major bug in it
[02:06] <sml1226> cant open folders with it
[02:06] <devin> shitty
[02:06] <sml1226> havent tried any video
[02:06] <devin> what do you use it for?
[02:07] <sml1226> ppl say they watch bluray on it
[02:07] <devin> really? I didn't think there was bluray support yet
[02:07] <devin> last I read anyways
[02:07] <sml1226> i use it for internet and minimal media
[02:07] <sml1226> word processor too
[02:08] <sml1226> not sure bout blu-ray but i thought it did
[02:08] <devin> too bad sony went all corporate and blocked out the graphics card, it would have been a sick machine for linux
[02:09] <sml1226> yeah but it only can use 192mb of ram
[02:09] <devin> seriously? or 192mb of the video ram
[02:11] <aquatone282> Hi - can anyone tell me where desktop wallpaper images are stored?
[02:11] <devin> ahh, not sure, I think it's somewhere in /usr
[02:15] <sml1226> devin: actual ram
[02:15] <devin> that's really shitty
[02:15] <sml1226> quit/ [bye]
[02:15] <devin> but I guess you could use a usb key or something
[02:30] <aquatone282> FYI: /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops
[03:00] <forces> saluton
[03:02] <devin> can someone help me with a broadcom card?
[03:03] <nikolam> hi
[03:04] <nikolam> what program u usually use to edit MP3 ID3 tags
[03:04] <nikolam> for multiple files etc
[03:11] <mental14> can someone help me?
[03:12] <forces> what's your problem?
[03:12] <forces> just say it
[03:13] <mental14> i just build a new comp, asus m2a-vm mobo with a amd 64 6000 x2 cpu 3.1ghz and xubuntu only detects 1000mhz
[03:15] <forces> that's the front side bus
[03:15] <forces> like this
[03:15] <forces> SysInfo: Linux 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686 | Dual Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270   @ 1.60GHz 1600.000 MHz | Mem: 398/1021M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 141G Free: 79G | Bogomips: 6384.01 | Screen Res: 1024x600 | Procs: 140 |   | Up:  | eth0: In: 0.00M Out: 0.00M
[03:16] <mental14> ok so /proc/cpuinfo only reports fronside bus?
[03:17] <forces> use pastebin and show me the reports
[03:20] <mental14> how do i do that?
[03:21] <forces> mental14, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:21] <forces> then paste in pastebin
[03:21] <forces> !pastebin
[03:26] <mental14> ok i pastebin'ed it
[03:27] <mental14> pastebin.ubuntu.com/110649
[03:29] <forces> mental14, it's ok
[03:29] <forces> look mine
[03:29] <forces> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/110650/
[03:33] <mental14> ya i have a acer aspire one 1.6ghz 2 x 800mhz atom cpu, but the laptop shows two 800mhz cores, therefore my anthlon 6000 should show 2 3100mhz cores but only shows two 1000mhz cores
[03:37] <nikolam> I am interesting in that how I can update CPU speed to Xfce (and gnome) panel plugins to display actual CPU speed. I overclocked CPU and I want to see real info on panel instead of CPU default info.
[03:37] <nikolam> I have amdx2 cpu
[03:40] <forces> I thinks everything is ok, I have another laptop with a centrino duo 1,83 Ghz
[03:40] <forces> and /proc/cpuinfo show me 1000mhz too
[03:40] <forces> but it's ok
[03:41] <nikolam> I guess I should change some cpu info somewhere to reflect new frequencies but I am supprised that MHZ cpu speed was not read from actual machine but from that what cpiud says
[03:41] <nikolam> forces, That mught be due to speed  stepping enabled.
[03:42] <mental14> cool thanks forces
[03:42] <nikolam> It actually works on lower cpu speed and if it is needed, cpu spid gets higher (ondemand)
[03:44] <nikolam> mental14, install xfapplet and use it to put cpufreq monitor to panel. displays temperature, cpu speed and you can change speed you want or put it on default`s ondemand or powersave
[04:09] <ubuntu> Xubuntu seems to run beautifully on this Dell laptop
[04:09] <ubuntu> I may install it permanently.
[04:11] <j1mc> :)
[04:11] <ubuntu> j1mc: Sadly I don't get to keep the machine.
[04:11] <ubuntu> It's going to be shipped to Haiti
[04:11] <j1mc> for a friend or something?
[04:11] <ubuntu> I didn't see Creole in the list of translations.
[04:12] <ubuntu> j1mc: it was donated to a non-profit that does work out there.
[04:13] <j1mc> awesome!
[04:14]  * ubuntu nods
[04:14] <ubuntu> oops, my nick is wrong :-)
[04:15] <ball> I'm still in the livecd
[04:16] <ball> Let's see, I could install OpenOffice.org and the educational apps.
[04:16] <ball> ...perhaps Ekiga too.
[04:18] <andy12345> Hello can anyone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051767
[04:23] <ball> back in a while, it's time to install.
[06:31] <ball> I'm having another go at installing Xubuntu
[09:02] <blankthemuffin> What's the command to create a symbolic link?
[09:02] <blankthemuffin> nvm gewgle
[09:05] <knome> ln -s ;P
[09:05] <knome> (just if somebody else wanted to know)
[10:25] <blankthemuffin> urrrgh
[10:25] <blankthemuffin> I hate it when time messes up in linux
[10:25] <blankthemuffin> configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files!
[10:26] <blankthemuffin> I changed the system clock because it was wrong, is there an easy way to bump the times on the files in a source structure?
[10:27] <TheSheep> sure, just touch them
[10:28] <TheSheep> with the touch command
[10:28] <blankthemuffin> Is there an easy way to do that over an entire directory structure
[10:28] <TheSheep> with find
[10:29] <blankthemuffin> And how would I pipe that
[10:30] <blankthemuffin> got it
[10:30] <blankthemuffin> thanks
[10:30] <TheSheep> find . -exec touch '{}' \;
[11:18] <GINZ> HI
[11:18] <GINZ> I am trying to install LAMP
[11:18] <GINZ> I was told >Copy and paste into terminal 'sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 phpmyadmin libapache2-mod-php5 libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql' (without quotes)
[11:19] <GINZ> < But when I did so I got told >Invalid operation spsche2<
[11:19] <GINZ> Can you tell me what I should have typed?
[11:21] <Myrtti> spsche?
[11:23] <GINZ> Pardon?
[11:24] <GINZ> I have just installed and updated Xubuntu
[11:24] <blankthemuffin> You seem to have copied the command incorrectly
[11:24] <GINZ> Please tell me the correct version
[11:24] <blankthemuffin> That is correct
[11:25] <Myrtti> apache2
[11:25] <Myrtti> no spsche2
[11:26] <GINZ> Oh  I see.  They typo was here but now I studied what I copied... cos it is on a different computer from this, I see I missed out the word install.
[11:26] <GINZ> thanks
[11:28] <GINZ> Ah  that is working now
[11:43] <GINZ> hey  the terminal has got to >processing triggers for libc6 . . .
[11:44] <Myrtti> yay
[11:44] <GINZ> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place<
[11:44] <GINZ> then given me a prompt
[11:44] <Myrtti> so you're well on your way
[11:44] <GINZ>  Does it want me to do something?
[11:44] <GINZ> It does not have [ OK ] at the end of that line
[11:45] <Myrtti> it's installed everything.
[11:45] <GINZ> Thanks. having the prompt there put me off
[11:45] <GINZ> Do I have to keep waiting for an [ OK ]
[11:47] <GINZ> I expect it will want me to restart the computer some time
[11:47] <Myrtti> nope
[11:47] <Myrtti> why whould it?
[11:47] <GINZ> usual process after installation
[11:47] <Myrtti> it hasn't installed a new kernel that would require reboot
[11:47] <GINZ> Oh  OK
[11:47] <Myrtti> reboot is usual process if you've used Windows
[11:48] <GINZ> So do I need the terminal kept open now?
[11:48] <GINZ> Yes I am pretty new to Linux
[11:48] <Myrtti> no you don't need that terminal open
[11:48] <GINZ> Thank you
[11:48] <GINZ>  Goodnight
[11:48] <Myrtti> apache2 and mysql are ran in the background
[11:48] <GINZ> ic
[11:48] <Myrtti> all you need is to configure them etc.
[11:48] <GINZ> thanks
[11:48] <Myrtti> if you didn't already.
[11:49] <blankthemuffin> You should be able to point your browser to localhost and it should work alreadu
[11:49] <GINZ> Oh  configure them?
[11:49] <blankthemuffin> already*
[11:49] <GINZ> right  I think I will leave the rest till tomorrow as I have a headache
[11:49] <GINZ> Thanks
[11:49] <GINZ> goodnight
[12:37] <knome> !dvd
[12:54] <Hellwire> Hey all :)
[13:08] <wired925> hi is any german here who could help me?
[13:09] <Myrtti> have you tried the German channels?
[13:09] <Myrtti> !de | wired925
[13:09] <Hellwire> :o
[13:10] <Hellwire> thats a cool bot
[13:10] <wired925> @myrtti didnt found a german channel but thx =)
[13:48] <charlie-tca> Anybody know how to login to gutsy 7.10 after the last updates?
[13:49] <charlie-tca> login window is in an endless loop, type in name, type in password, never leaves the login screen. It just requests name again.
[14:14] <Tux> Does anybody know why when I boot into Xubuntu why it could be going into what I call DOS like and my brother calls "Text based"?
[14:17] <charlie-tca> It is probably giving some kind of messages?
[14:25] <Tux> No. It just  boots up text based.
[14:26] <alienkid> hi guys Tux os my brother
[14:26] <alienkid> is
[14:26] <TheSheep> how do you know if there is no text?
[14:26] <Tux> There is text.
[14:26] <alienkid> there is text
[14:27] <charlie-tca> What does the text say?
[14:27] <alienkid> it says things  then over on the right of the screen it says "[ok]"
[14:27] <Tux> Too much to say. It says it's booting process.
[14:27] <alienkid> next to everything
[14:27] <TheSheep> what's the last thing it says?
[14:28] <alienkid> don't know don't pay much attetion
[14:29] <charlie-tca> Off the top of my head then, I would say let it sit, it may be in the middle of the startup
[14:29] <alienkid> we could reboot his computer and find out
[14:29] <alienkid> \it is
[14:29] <alienkid> it gets to the middle of the bar then goes text based
[14:29] <charlie-tca> You might need to let it complete
[14:29] <alienkid> we do
[14:30] <Tux> We do. That's how I'm booted into Linux.
[14:30] <Tux> It's just it's weird booting process that would make our mom scream her head off.
[14:31] <alienkid> it goes to the login screen and sometimes freezes with blue particles all over the screen and an "X" mouse cursor
[14:31] <alienkid> but not always
[14:31] <Tux> Is there a way to make it stop? It's doing it with the normal boot up screen then changes to text based.
[14:31] <Tux> The freezing only happened once.
[14:31] <charlie-tca> And the text goes away and you get a login screen?
[14:32] <Tux> Once it just froze when loading the login screen like Windows does sometimes.
[14:32] <Tux> Yes.
[14:32] <alienkid> hes in right now actully
[14:32] <charlie-tca> Sounds like a slow system to me.
[14:32] <Tux> Why?
[14:32] <Tux> How?
[14:33] <alienkid> 512MB RAM?
[14:33] <Tux> 504.
[14:33] <charlie-tca> My 400MHz and 866Mhz both show that text before login
[14:33] <Tux> I'm running Xubuntu.
[14:33] <Tux> How do I find my system specs in Xubuntu?
[14:33] <charlie-tca> It's part of the startup process
[14:33] <alienkid> how do we cheek system specs in Linux
[14:34] <alienkid> ok so nothing like "dxdiag" in windows?
[14:34] <TheSheep> alienkid: lshw
[14:34] <charlie-tca> lspci gives the hardware
[14:34] <alienkid> ok
[14:38] <Tux> Intel Celeron 2.70 GHz.
[14:39] <alienkid> mine is intel celeron CPU 440@2.00GHz
[14:39] <alienkid> could that be it or is it his RAM?
[14:41] <Tux> Also, does anybody know why when I use the Mac4Lin Metacity theme it doesn't change my header?
[14:41] <Tux> It says 494 MiB of RAM.
[15:24] <rattis> anyone here that can help?
[15:25] <Pres-Gas> !question
[15:27] <rattis> having problems with rtl8185 wireless network card. newb to linux in general so need lots of help
[15:29] <likemindead> @Pres-Gas: running hardinfo told me everything I needed to know about my PC Card slots. :)
[15:32] <Pres-Gas> likemindead, awesome, thanks for the pingback
[15:32] <likemindead> Query: How many folks in here are involved in a LUG?
[15:33] <Pres-Gas> !wireless
[15:34] <Pres-Gas> rattis, this link may be a good start...search for your card.  Are you getting online at all with it?
[15:35] <likemindead> New, cheap cards from Hong Kong, FTW. ;D
[15:35] <likemindead> (via eBay)
[15:42] <rattis> It worked for bit when i first installed yesterday. after running the updates it just doesn't turn on when the card is plugged in (unless drivers are absent from the winders wireless driver app). currently running internet on it through an ethernet card
[15:42] <rattis> winders=windows
[15:42] <likemindead> What's the model? lspci
[15:42] <likemindead> (It is PCI?)
[15:43] <rattis> SAFECOM swlpr-5400 PCI card
[15:43] <rattis> rtl8185L chip
[15:45] <likemindead> New to me.
[15:46] <likemindead> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/55905
[15:46] <likemindead> OLD.
[15:46] <rattis> pretty lame model i think
[15:47] <likemindead> I just bought a new mini-PCI Intel PRO 2915 from Hong Kong via eBay for $20 shipped. :)
[15:47] <likemindead> Works great.
[15:47] <rattis> gives a soft lockup on boot
[15:47] <likemindead> Lame.
[15:47] <rattis> nice. bet it doesn't work!
[15:48] <likemindead> I'm on it right now!
[15:48] <likemindead> :D
[15:48] <likemindead> I've actually had quite a bit of luck with cheap parts from Hong Kong.
[15:49] <likemindead> Never any problems.
[15:49] <likemindead> (That's where everything's made anyhow!)
[15:54] <rattis> no idea what to try next
[15:55] <likemindead> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=210958
[15:56]  * likemindead is away: Fear not--I shall return! ^_^
[16:06] <mrbichel1> Hello! - I have a problem getting a third level chooser to function on macbook pro efter I changed to xfce. I have tried to configure xmodmap following guides I could find on the web but so far with no results.
[16:16] <mrbichel> Hi I lost my connection - did you see my question?
[16:19] <nikolam> hi. I am using crypttab line: cswap  /swapfile   /dev/random swap    and   fstab line:/dev/mapper/cswap   none    sw   0    0   to have encrypter swap-file.  But on boot it takes a long time to start, saying: Starting cryptmount targets (hit shift/ctrl if short on entropy)  Hi can I speed up crypttab initialization on boot?
[16:59] <likemindead> ^ Boobs... lawlz... ::)
[17:03] <nikolam> hi
[17:03] <nikolam> Is there HCL database for out-of box hardware support
[17:03] <nikolam> for X/Ubuntu 8.04.2 and newer etc ?
[17:03] <nikolam> Hardware Compatibility List database
[17:09] <alienkid> is there a panel plugin to use search engines form the panel?
[17:15] <nikolam> i have search button inside browser in seamonkey. and fitrefox have integrated box
[17:16] <alienkid> i know but I want it up in the panel for easy access when not having firefox open
[17:18] <rocko> could someone give me there sources.list file I forgot to make a backup of it for 8.10 please :D
[17:19] <rocko> please use pastebin
[17:21] <nikolam> rocko. Doesn`t it regenerate itself when using software sources in selecting country/mirror in gui?
[17:21] <charlie-tca> nikolam: to the best of my knowledge, there is not a HCL specific to 8.04.2
[17:21] <nikolam> ChanServ, but for 8.04 ubuntu in general
[17:21] <nikolam> HCl for Ubuntu
[17:21] <rocko> not sure I will try that nikolam
[17:22] <nikolam> charlie-tca, Ubuntu in general HCL
[17:22] <charlie-tca> nikolam: you mean like this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport ?
[17:22] <nikolam> charlie-tca, Yes, AND: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport/Components/Modems?action=show&redirect=HardwareSupportComponentsModems
[17:23] <nikolam> some pages are empty
[17:23] <charlie-tca> I know, so is http://hwdb.ubuntu.com/
[17:23] <charlie-tca> Appears broken today
[17:24] <charlie-tca> But, those are the HCL for ubuntu
[17:25] <nikolam> So Ubuntu users in general don`t have Hcl..
[17:25] <charlie-tca> not today
[17:26] <nikolam> a-ha. so site is temporarely down i see
[17:26] <charlie-tca> That´s it!
[17:26] <nikolam> :) ok
[18:10] <ohgodnotanother1> hello there. I just installed xubuntu and my wlan card wasn't detected. so I installed ndiswrapper but it doesn't work with wpa_supplicant and I dunno why
[18:10] <ohgodnotanother1> ﻿udo ifup wlan0 --> wpa_supplicant: "ndiswrapper" wpa-driver is unsupported. why? how can I solve this?
[18:48] <Ben_Cs> pt
[19:03] <rocko> saluton
[19:04] <Pres-Gas> precipitate
[19:07] <ball> In the Add/Remove Applications tool, can I just choose a single Metapackage to install all of OpenOffice.org?
[19:11] <Pres-Gas> ball, if you search for
[19:12] <zoredache> the package named 'openoffice.org' seems to depend on everything
[19:12] <Pres-Gas> suite, ball, you should find a package called Openoffice.org suite should depend on everything
[19:13] <Pres-Gas> gerr on this Inspiron Mini9 keyboard
[19:15] <ball> Thanks.
[19:16] <ball> I'll give that a try.
[19:26] <jeremey> im having a hard time installing xubuntu on my desktop,
[19:27] <Pres-Gas> Do tell, jeremey?
[19:29] <jeremey> well, it gets to where the x server starts up, and just hangs with a mousable "x", ctrl+F8 shows X server failed and its hung after checking battery state
[19:30] <jeremey> thanks for helping, by the way :}
[19:32] <jeremey> let me try it with safe graphics mode....
[19:39] <jeremey> nope, "X server failed to start after 60 seconds"
[19:39] <dumi> weet er iemand een MAKKELIJK progama om van uit xp/vista mijn Xubuntu te bestuuren?
[19:39] <Pres-Gas> hmmmm...jeremy
[19:40] <ball> Dutch?
[19:40] <dumi> knows some body a program to control Xubuntu whit a xp.vista pc?
[19:40] <Pres-Gas> jeremy, what graphics card do you have?
[19:41] <ball> dumi: VNC viewer
[19:41] <Pres-Gas> dumi, putty http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/
[19:41] <ball> Though Xubuntu's VNC support seems not quite complete
[19:41] <dumi> works it good on lan?
[19:42] <ball> dumi: yes, I use it every day.
[19:42] <Pres-Gas> I used to use it but would tunnel it through ssh
[19:42] <Pres-Gas> ...on the outside
[19:42] <dumi> okay and the grafies? and easy to install
[19:43] <ball> Pres-Gas: I do that too
[19:43] <ball> dumi: yes and sure.
[19:43] <dumi> which of the 2 or putty vnc?
[19:43] <Pres-Gas> Now, I just shell in, though....I love ncurses
[19:43] <jeremey> its an integrated Compaq Presario Intel 845GV Chipset
[19:44] <ball> dumi: both
[19:44] <jeremey> Compaq Presario SR1103WM
[19:44] <jeremey> I have an ATI Radeon 9250 that I had just taken out because I was running into problems with it
[19:45] <dumi> but which of the two should I take?
[19:45] <Pres-Gas> jeremey: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=9223
[19:46] <dumi> and which is graphic
[19:46] <ball> dumi: you can use them in combination.
[19:47] <dumi> how?
[19:47] <ball> dumi: over a LAN, if it's not insecure, you can use VNC on its own.
[19:48] <dumi> and where can I get that program come from?
[19:49] <dumi> and use it on a long
[19:49] <dumi> LAN
[19:53] <ball> dumi: for the viewer?  There's a free version available from realvnc.com I believe
[19:53] <Pres-Gas> dumi, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=122402
[19:56] <ball> Is Xubuntu's support for French fairly complete?
[19:57] <dumi> I do not know come from the netherlands
[19:58] <ball> dumi: I guessed as much, but I'm in the process of adding French to a laptop because I can't find support for Creole
[19:58] <dumi> toward
[19:59] <ball> toward?
[20:01] <ball> Sorry dumi, I do not understand.
[20:01] <dumi> was a mistake by the vertalling chat
[20:01] <dumi> vertaler
[20:02] <dumi> vertaling
[20:02] <dumi> I do not know whether he has translated
[20:03] <dumi> do you know where I have a VPN server can find Xubuntu
[20:04] <ball> VPN or VNC?
[20:04] <dumi> VNC
[20:08] <ball> It's probably available via your package manager.
[20:08] <ball> ...though you may need something extra if you want to be able to control the X that is running on the console.
[20:08] <ball> (I've yet to find that)
[20:09] <dumi> so there is no VNC for Xubuntu? or xp / vista
[20:10] <Pres-Gas> !vnc
[20:10] <The-Kernel> What's the best method to remote desktop into Xubuntu?
[20:10] <The-Kernel> oh!
[20:11] <The-Kernel> I guess you answered before i asked!
[20:11] <Pres-Gas> LOL
[20:11] <Pres-Gas> I have been told I am prescient
[20:11] <The-Kernel> nice!
[20:11] <The-Kernel> Minority Report stuff eh?
[20:11] <Pres-Gas> There is another person here asking the same thing
[20:12] <The-Kernel> I see
[20:12] <dumi> : D I do not
[20:13] <Pres-Gas> dumi and The-Kernel, you can also look at this:
[20:13] <Pres-Gas> !FreeNX
[20:13] <ball> dumi: yes, there is
[20:14] <ball> VNC works well for me.
[20:14] <ball> okay, got this archive squished down to 10 Gbytes.
[20:15] <dumi> I know nothing about it: P
[20:16] <forces> saluton
[20:17] <Pres-Gas> precipitate
[20:17] <dumi> I need only 1 easy solution for beginners to get Xubuntu to drive with xp / vista
[20:18] <ball> dumi: VNC is a good choice.
[20:18] <Pres-Gas> Okay, then, dumi this is the best documented online...hence:
[20:18] <Pres-Gas> !vnc
[20:19] <dumi> I will try
[20:19] <Pres-Gas> dumi, sorry there is not a dutch translation
[20:20] <ball> There doesn't seem to be a Creole one either.
[20:24] <dumi> I will, just have to try: D
[20:28] <slow-motion> hi
[20:28] <The-Kernel> Xubuntu takes FOREVER to install on a 512 MB system with only 300 MHz of CPU power
[20:28] <The-Kernel> hi slow-motion
[20:28] <slow-motion> hi The-Kernel
[20:29] <The-Kernel> how's life?
[20:30] <mnemoc> hi, how can I tell xfce (deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/xubuntu-dev/ubuntu intrepid main) I plugged an external monitor to my laptop? xrandr sees it
[20:38] <TheSheep> mnemoc: xrandr --auto
[20:41] <mnemoc> TheSheep: great!
[20:44] <mnemoc> TheSheep: can I have both showing different content (and at different resolutions)?
[20:45] <mnemoc> (Display Settings still shows one screen)
[20:45] <TheSheep> !xinerama
[20:45] <forces> !fluxbox
[20:46] <mnemoc> TheSheep: thanks for the hint :)
[20:56] <mrbichel1> Hello I am looking for some help troubleshooting xmodmap getting my Super_ARE key to work as third level chooser - I have tried a bunch of different configurations but I can't really see it changes anything.
[20:57] <mrbichel1> Super_ARE*
[20:57] <mrbichel1> Super_R
[21:08] <princedugan> hello, I have two problems. S-video out and USB soundcard works in windows not in ubuntu.
[21:11] <forces> what's soundcard do you have?
[21:12] <princedugan> USB TurleBeach with hedaphone jack out and optical. The interneal card is some sort of Intell I think
[21:12] <forces> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801G (ICH7 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 02)
[21:13] <forces> I have intel too and everything works
[21:34] <ronnil> hi, i'm trying to install xubuntu 8.04 from an usb pin, but instead of the install screen i get a busybox prompt, does anyone know why?
[21:41] <princedugan> xrandr shows I only have one screen
[22:07] <Guest8478> hi is someone there? sorry, don't think i've used irc before
[22:09] <InvaderZim> all: hello!
[22:09] <charlie-tca> Yes, many are here. Just type your question or issue in and if somebody can help, they will. Many of us are working all the time
[22:09] <charlie-tca> welcome
[22:09] <charlie-tca> hello InvaderZim
[22:10] <InvaderZim> all: I was wondering if anyone knew if the Listen Music Player in Xubuntu 8.10 can play FLAC?
[22:10] <InvaderZim> charlie-tca:  hi charlie
[22:10] <Guest8478> Thanks charlie. i hope someone can help me. i'm trying to install xubuntu and i get the boot options of safe graphic mode, or non-acpi. i think i need both at once!
[22:11] <charlie-tca> You might need both, Guest8478
[22:11] <Guest8478> non-acpi works for a few minutes, a crosshair cursor appears after a while, but then the screen goes blank and never returns
[22:11] <Guest8478> can you tell me how to enable both options at once charlie?
[22:12] <charlie-tca> Just hit F6, cursor to the end of the line and type in acpi=off then hilite safe graphics
[22:12] <Guest8478> thanks! when do i hit f6?
[22:13] <charlie-tca> before you type that, I think you need f6 to bring the options line up on screen. Esc gets rid of any extra stuff in the way after you hit it
[22:14] <Guest8478> well thanks a lot, i'll go and try that now
[22:14] <charlie-tca> Good luck
[22:14] <Guest8478> :)
[22:14] <InvaderZim> does anybody know if Listen Music Player in the latest Xubuntu release can play FLAC audio tracks?
[22:14] <charlie-tca> InvaderZim: I don't know enough to answer you
[22:16] <InvaderZim> anyone else?
[22:20] <zoredache> I don't know about the version installed on intrepid, but the main project appears to support flac - http://www.listen-project.org/wiki/Features
[22:21] <zoredache> is there some reason why you can't just try it and see what happens?
[22:24] <InvaderZim> zoredache: thank you!
[22:35] <R1cochet> plz help went to update system just now and during install i have this popup that asks: What would u like to do about menu.lst?
[22:36] <R1cochet> has a drop down menu and multiple choices
[22:36] <charlie-tca> Replace it so you get the new one
[22:37] <R1cochet> install package maintainers version?
[22:55] <DaSkreech> Hello does xubuntu ship with OO.o ?
[22:55] <Odd-rationale> DaSkreech: no. it does come with Abiword and gNumeric though.
[22:55] <DShepherd> hey . does xubuntu ship with openoffice.org by default?
[22:56] <TheSheep> no
[22:56] <DaSkreech> Thank Odd-rationale
[22:56] <DShepherd> oh ok
[22:56] <TheSheep> just abiword and gnumerica
[22:56] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: no it doesn't
[22:56] <DShepherd> darn it!
[22:56] <R1cochet> u can still get it
[22:56] <TheSheep> you can isatll it from the repos easily
[22:56] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: ok. It can be installed :)
[22:56] <Odd-rationale> DShepherd: it is easy to install
[22:56] <Odd-rationale> lol...
[22:56] <DaSkreech> Not that hard
[22:56] <DShepherd> its easy for you to say
[22:56] <DShepherd> thanks anyways
[22:56] <DaSkreech> and you can repurpose a seedee if you like with 00.03
[22:56] <R1cochet> Laughing My Ass Off
[22:56] <DaSkreech> OO.o3
[22:57] <R1cochet> there r a ton of tutorials
[22:57] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Want remastering help?
[22:57] <DShepherd> i dont have access to the machine just now
[22:57] <R1cochet> yes i have OOo3
[22:57] <DShepherd> will have it in a hour or so
[22:57] <DShepherd> but that maybe too late
[22:57] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: which meand no net?
[22:57] <DShepherd> :-(
[22:57] <Odd-rationale> DShepherd: just open add/remove, search for office, select openoffice, and click apply! :D
[22:57] <DShepherd> thanks again. gots to run
[22:57] <DShepherd> 128mb machine
[22:57] <DShepherd> yeah ... :-) ,... i know
[22:58] <DaSkreech> Well you are nettish now I can send you the OO.o 3 deb or you can grab it yourself
[22:58] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: You probably want Abiword then
[22:58] <DaSkreech> Are you doing .doc work ?
[22:58] <Odd-rationale> !software | DShepherd
[22:58] <R1cochet> did OOo3 get added to repos?
[22:58] <DShepherd> no .. i need presentation tool
[22:58] <Odd-rationale> DShepherd: tried google docs?
[22:58] <DaSkreech> That's my next question
[22:59] <Odd-rationale> it can do presentations...
[22:59] <DaSkreech> what's Gnome Offices prestenation software?
[22:59] <DaSkreech>  is it all lateX ?
[22:59] <Odd-rationale> DaSkreech: there is really no "Gnome Office"...
[22:59] <DaSkreech> Odd-rationale: You know what I mean ;-P
[22:59] <TheSheep> for presentations Beamer is pretty nice :)
[22:59] <DaSkreech> !info beamer
[22:59] <DaSkreech> Boo
[22:59] <TheSheep> DaSkreech: a LaTeX package
[23:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah I figured that out :)
[23:00] <TheSheep> !info latex-beamer
[23:00] <Odd-rationale> and there isn't any good app for presentations besides OO present
[23:00] <DaSkreech> !find beamer
[23:00] <TheSheep> well, javascript apps will soon replace that niche :)
[23:01]  * DaSkreech used KPresenter