[00:16] zoredache, terminating gui of an app does not kill app on most cases. [00:17] one should use ps -A | grep app to find app (or in top) and use kill or kill -9 command to kill it [00:17] or with system monitor gui [00:25] has anyone checked out the ubuntu pocket guide yet? [00:25] (http://ubuntupocketguide.com) [00:41] favorite file manager??? [00:42] other than thunar? [00:44] bsc sucks and thunar is screwed up on my machine [00:44] vifm? I suppose you where looking for a gui though [00:44] going to try nautilus [00:44] what do you think of that? [00:45] yeah needs a gui [00:45] I don't really have an opinion [00:46] have you tried nautilus? [00:47] nautilus is the standard file manager you get with a gnome install of ubuntu isn't it? [00:47] think so [00:47] havent used ubuntu though just xubuntu [00:49] i think nautilus will be fine (still not fully installed) so how do you set it as the default file manager [00:51] if it is the only one running, then it is the default [00:51] well thunar is installed and default now so how do i change that??? [00:53] it might do it but it hasn't yet [00:59] nautilus doesn't work either [01:02] sml1226, pcmanfm [01:02] starts in a second [01:03] i start pcmanfm and other apps with one click with quicklauncher xfce panel plugin. [01:04] gui? [01:04] of course [01:04] cool will try [01:04] how to set as default [01:05] why should you set it as default? [01:05] Start it with on eclick from quicklauncher [01:06] thunar is screwed up and won't work [01:06] it works but have issues. [01:06] what is your main problem with thunar [01:06] there is a bug in my ver that keeps it from starting [01:07] only catch with pcmanfm is that it does not support trash can [01:07] cant access anything with it [01:07] everything you delet is like using rm [01:07] sml1226, what xubuntu u use , version and 32/64bit? [01:07] 8.10 ppc+ps3 [01:08] sml1226, also try to use krusader. [01:08] isnt krusader for kde? [01:09] ppc :) nice i didnt know they still make one, since i heard that ppc in not supported yet [01:09] dont really need or want to column [01:09] 2* [01:09] sml1226, did you find soulution to expand RAM to more then 256Mb? [01:09] nope [01:10] u can try it. it pulls just kde libs upon install etc. [01:10] and actually the ps3 restricts your use to 192MB [01:10] ? 192 ?? [01:10] it keeps the rest for itself [01:10] not really sure [01:10] I know about other 256mb ati restrictions and 2 spu restrictions but 192? [01:11] do you have some software builded espacially for cell? [01:11] yeah it keeps the 9th spu and all but 192mb for running the ps3 w/o apps or oses [01:11] nothing special for cell yet [01:12] I was thinking of using ps3 as main machine 3 years ago. but since there was no way to expand ran i abandoned idea. But it is great to use ps3 that way [01:12] even with the minimal RAM it blows my pc away [01:12] ps3 could be even greater machine if one could use more ram with it. etc [01:12] granted the pc is total crap [01:13] yes, shure :) [01:13] ok so, [01:13] yah gpu access and 1gb of RAM and this thing would fly [01:13] I use 8.04 LTS 64bit with amdx2 and 2gigs [01:14] yes but i was thinking more 4 gigs and full gpu access, yes [01:14] had 8.04 on my pc but went back to xp because i needed to print [01:14] like home computer it would blow away [01:15] well those 8 cores at full speed can render some crazy graphics w/o the gpu [01:15] BUT Sony pricks did what they did. But XB360 loosers even can`t start linux. microsoft coded it so it can use only approved software by microsoft [01:15] yes but 192 mb.. [01:15] yeah that sucks [01:16] but even with it, it is ok to use linux for office, media, surfing and everything [01:17] yeah ps3 browser sucks ansd isn't fullscreen so 1080p firefox is amazing [01:17] I was using p3-733 with 256mb with xubuntu before. I was content with it. [01:17] I still have it running on 8.04 lts now. [01:17] wish it gave access to the music and pic folders on other partition though [01:18] mine was a celeron-600 with 384MB === j1mc is now known as j1mc_ [01:20] got to go [01:29] file manager like thunar? [01:31] like pcmanfm but no trash access [01:39] hello [01:39] hi [01:39] :) [01:39] know any file managers like thunar [01:40] ah, i just use thunar. sorry [01:40] ok [01:40] got probs with mine and cant do much [01:40] ah [01:40] did you try uninstalling/reinstalling? [01:41] yep same prob [01:41] weird [01:41] i know [01:41] i'm not an xubuntu expert [01:41] i just use it :P [01:41] tried pcman but no trash access [01:41] that sucks [01:41] yeah [01:42] will use it until they patch it [01:42] I like xfce a lot better than gnome. its not because i dont have much ram or anything, its just a nice clean interface [01:42] :) [01:43] thinkt ts with ppc+ps3 version [01:43] ohhh [01:44] how do i hide my host? [01:44] there were a few on bugzilla with the same prob [01:44] what? [01:44] i know it doesnt show my ip in it, thanks to my isp, but still [01:44] * [Hellwire] (n=cody@mnpl-04-1888.dsl.iowatelecom.net): Cody Mitchell [01:44] oh not sure [01:44] darn [01:45] says my real name is purple??? [01:46] lol [01:46] weird [01:46] how do i set that up right? [01:46] all i did was use my username [01:47] whats your client? [01:47] xchat, kvirc, etf [01:47] etc* [01:47] pidgin [01:47] hmm [01:48] never used pidgin for irc... sorry [01:48] what u using? [01:48] XChat [01:52] xchat works with my name [01:52] :) [01:52] pidgin says purple though [01:52] weird [01:52] purple pidgins... they just dont make em like they used to [01:53] yeah its weird [01:54] anybody use pidgin [01:56] guess not [01:56] :( [01:56] lol [01:57] hmm, i had to use this nick because my usual is taken... what's my bot's name gonna be? or does freenode even allow bots? (just a channel bot, changes topic and stuff) [01:58] this is my psn id so thats why i use it [01:58] ah [01:58] * Hellwire usually uses Cody... >< [01:59] cant use that? [01:59] nope. someone has it already [01:59] lol [01:59] obviously. this network is huge [01:59] :P [01:59] there he is === Hellwire is now known as Iowa_Cody [01:59] :P [01:59] lol [01:59] lol [01:59] I like hellwire better [01:59] lol [02:00] * Iowa_Cody set a timer to change his nick back [02:00] lol [02:00] xchat timers confuse meh [02:01] how do you set a quit message??? === Iowa_Cody is now known as Hellwire [02:01] /quit [message] [02:02] ok thanks [02:02] np [02:02] bbl, :) [02:02] see ya [02:02] bai [02:02] can someone help me with a broadcom card? [02:02] nope [02:03] no idea [02:03] crap [02:03] I need to get it working, my only connection is wireless [02:03] i just started using linux [02:03] me too [02:04] my drivers are all included (ps3 version) [02:04] oh [02:04] nice, I want a ps3 [02:04] so does it run good? [02:04] linux on it? [02:04] yeah [02:05] it should but you must get an older version cuz 8.10 is buggy [02:05] yeah, that's only expected [02:05] i got 8.10 with a lot of probs [02:06] does video work good? considering the graphics card issue [02:06] thunar has a major bug in it [02:06] cant open folders with it [02:06] shitty [02:06] havent tried any video [02:06] what do you use it for? [02:07] ppl say they watch bluray on it [02:07] really? I didn't think there was bluray support yet [02:07] last I read anyways [02:07] i use it for internet and minimal media [02:07] word processor too [02:08] not sure bout blu-ray but i thought it did [02:08] too bad sony went all corporate and blocked out the graphics card, it would have been a sick machine for linux [02:09] yeah but it only can use 192mb of ram [02:09] seriously? or 192mb of the video ram [02:11] Hi - can anyone tell me where desktop wallpaper images are stored? [02:11] ahh, not sure, I think it's somewhere in /usr [02:15] devin: actual ram [02:15] that's really shitty [02:15] quit/ [bye] [02:15] but I guess you could use a usb key or something [02:30] FYI: /usr/share/xfce4/backdrops [03:00] saluton [03:02] can someone help me with a broadcom card? [03:03] hi [03:04] what program u usually use to edit MP3 ID3 tags [03:04] for multiple files etc [03:11] can someone help me? [03:12] what's your problem? [03:12] just say it [03:13] i just build a new comp, asus m2a-vm mobo with a amd 64 6000 x2 cpu 3.1ghz and xubuntu only detects 1000mhz [03:15] that's the front side bus [03:15] like this [03:15] SysInfo: Linux 2.6.27.12-170.2.5.fc10.i686 | Dual Intel(R) Atom(TM) CPU N270 @ 1.60GHz 1600.000 MHz | Mem: 398/1021M [||||||||||] | Diskspace: 141G Free: 79G | Bogomips: 6384.01 | Screen Res: 1024x600 | Procs: 140 | | Up: | eth0: In: 0.00M Out: 0.00M [03:16] ok so /proc/cpuinfo only reports fronside bus? [03:17] use pastebin and show me the reports [03:20] how do i do that? [03:21] mental14, cat /proc/cpuinfo [03:21] then paste in pastebin [03:21] !pastebin [03:21] pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic) [03:26] ok i pastebin'ed it [03:27] pastebin.ubuntu.com/110649 [03:29] mental14, it's ok [03:29] look mine [03:29] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/110650/ [03:33] ya i have a acer aspire one 1.6ghz 2 x 800mhz atom cpu, but the laptop shows two 800mhz cores, therefore my anthlon 6000 should show 2 3100mhz cores but only shows two 1000mhz cores [03:37] I am interesting in that how I can update CPU speed to Xfce (and gnome) panel plugins to display actual CPU speed. I overclocked CPU and I want to see real info on panel instead of CPU default info. [03:37] I have amdx2 cpu [03:40] I thinks everything is ok, I have another laptop with a centrino duo 1,83 Ghz [03:40] and /proc/cpuinfo show me 1000mhz too [03:40] but it's ok [03:41] I guess I should change some cpu info somewhere to reflect new frequencies but I am supprised that MHZ cpu speed was not read from actual machine but from that what cpiud says [03:41] forces, That mught be due to speed stepping enabled. [03:42] cool thanks forces [03:42] It actually works on lower cpu speed and if it is needed, cpu spid gets higher (ondemand) [03:44] mental14, install xfapplet and use it to put cpufreq monitor to panel. displays temperature, cpu speed and you can change speed you want or put it on default`s ondemand or powersave === j1mc_ is now known as j1mc [04:09] Xubuntu seems to run beautifully on this Dell laptop [04:09] I may install it permanently. [04:11] :) [04:11] j1mc: Sadly I don't get to keep the machine. [04:11] It's going to be shipped to Haiti [04:11] for a friend or something? [04:11] I didn't see Creole in the list of translations. [04:12] j1mc: it was donated to a non-profit that does work out there. [04:13] awesome! [04:14] * ubuntu nods [04:14] oops, my nick is wrong :-) === ubuntu is now known as ball [04:15] I'm still in the livecd [04:16] Let's see, I could install OpenOffice.org and the educational apps. [04:16] ...perhaps Ekiga too. [04:18] Hello can anyone help me with this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1051767 [04:23] back in a while, it's time to install. [06:31] I'm having another go at installing Xubuntu [09:02] What's the command to create a symbolic link? [09:02] nvm gewgle [09:05] ln -s ;P [09:05] (just if somebody else wanted to know) [10:25] urrrgh [10:25] I hate it when time messes up in linux [10:25] configure: error: newly created file is older than distributed files! [10:26] I changed the system clock because it was wrong, is there an easy way to bump the times on the files in a source structure? [10:27] sure, just touch them [10:28] with the touch command [10:28] Is there an easy way to do that over an entire directory structure [10:28] with find [10:29] And how would I pipe that [10:30] got it [10:30] thanks [10:30] find . -exec touch '{}' \; [11:18] HI [11:18] I am trying to install LAMP [11:18] I was told >Copy and paste into terminal 'sudo apt-get install apache2 php5 mysql-client-5.0 mysql-server-5.0 phpmyadmin libapache2-mod-php5 libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql' (without quotes) [11:19] < But when I did so I got told >Invalid operation spsche2< [11:19] Can you tell me what I should have typed? [11:21] spsche? [11:23] Pardon? [11:24] I have just installed and updated Xubuntu [11:24] You seem to have copied the command incorrectly [11:24] Please tell me the correct version [11:24] That is correct [11:25] apache2 [11:25] no spsche2 [11:26] Oh I see. They typo was here but now I studied what I copied... cos it is on a different computer from this, I see I missed out the word install. [11:26] thanks [11:28] Ah that is working now [11:43] hey the terminal has got to >processing triggers for libc6 . . . [11:44] yay [11:44] ldconfig deferred processing now taking place< [11:44] then given me a prompt [11:44] so you're well on your way [11:44] Does it want me to do something? [11:44] It does not have [ OK ] at the end of that line [11:45] it's installed everything. [11:45] Thanks. having the prompt there put me off [11:45] Do I have to keep waiting for an [ OK ] [11:47] I expect it will want me to restart the computer some time [11:47] nope [11:47] why whould it? [11:47] usual process after installation [11:47] it hasn't installed a new kernel that would require reboot [11:47] Oh OK [11:47] reboot is usual process if you've used Windows [11:48] So do I need the terminal kept open now? [11:48] Yes I am pretty new to Linux [11:48] no you don't need that terminal open [11:48] Thank you [11:48] Goodnight [11:48] apache2 and mysql are ran in the background [11:48] ic [11:48] all you need is to configure them etc. [11:48] thanks [11:48] if you didn't already. [11:49] You should be able to point your browser to localhost and it should work alreadu [11:49] Oh configure them? [11:49] already* [11:49] right I think I will leave the rest till tomorrow as I have a headache [11:49] Thanks [11:49] goodnight [12:37] !dvd [12:37] For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [12:54] Hey all :) [13:08] hi is any german here who could help me? [13:09] have you tried the German channels? [13:09] !de | wired925 [13:09] wired925: In den meisten ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuchen Sie bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Geben Sie einfach /join #ubuntu-de ein! Danke für Ihr Verständnis. [13:09] :o [13:10] thats a cool bot [13:10] @myrtti didnt found a german channel but thx =) === Hellwire is now known as Hellwire_ [13:48] Anybody know how to login to gutsy 7.10 after the last updates? [13:49] login window is in an endless loop, type in name, type in password, never leaves the login screen. It just requests name again. [14:14] Does anybody know why when I boot into Xubuntu why it could be going into what I call DOS like and my brother calls "Text based"? [14:17] It is probably giving some kind of messages? [14:25] No. It just boots up text based. [14:26] hi guys Tux os my brother [14:26] is [14:26] how do you know if there is no text? [14:26] There is text. [14:26] there is text [14:27] What does the text say? [14:27] it says things then over on the right of the screen it says "[ok]" [14:27] Too much to say. It says it's booting process. [14:27] next to everything [14:27] what's the last thing it says? [14:28] don't know don't pay much attetion [14:29] Off the top of my head then, I would say let it sit, it may be in the middle of the startup [14:29] we could reboot his computer and find out [14:29] \it is [14:29] it gets to the middle of the bar then goes text based [14:29] You might need to let it complete [14:29] we do [14:30] We do. That's how I'm booted into Linux. [14:30] It's just it's weird booting process that would make our mom scream her head off. [14:31] it goes to the login screen and sometimes freezes with blue particles all over the screen and an "X" mouse cursor [14:31] but not always [14:31] Is there a way to make it stop? It's doing it with the normal boot up screen then changes to text based. [14:31] The freezing only happened once. [14:31] And the text goes away and you get a login screen? [14:32] Once it just froze when loading the login screen like Windows does sometimes. [14:32] Yes. [14:32] hes in right now actully [14:32] Sounds like a slow system to me. [14:32] Why? [14:32] How? [14:33] 512MB RAM? [14:33] 504. [14:33] My 400MHz and 866Mhz both show that text before login [14:33] I'm running Xubuntu. [14:33] How do I find my system specs in Xubuntu? [14:33] It's part of the startup process [14:33] how do we cheek system specs in Linux [14:34] ok so nothing like "dxdiag" in windows? [14:34] alienkid: lshw [14:34] lspci gives the hardware [14:34] ok [14:38] Intel Celeron 2.70 GHz. [14:39] mine is intel celeron CPU 440@2.00GHz [14:39] could that be it or is it his RAM? [14:41] Also, does anybody know why when I use the Mac4Lin Metacity theme it doesn't change my header? [14:41] It says 494 MiB of RAM. [15:24] anyone here that can help? [15:25] !question [15:25] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [15:27] having problems with rtl8185 wireless network card. newb to linux in general so need lots of help [15:29] @Pres-Gas: running hardinfo told me everything I needed to know about my PC Card slots. :) [15:32] likemindead, awesome, thanks for the pingback [15:32] Query: How many folks in here are involved in a LUG? [15:33] !wireless [15:33] Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs [15:34] rattis, this link may be a good start...search for your card. Are you getting online at all with it? [15:35] New, cheap cards from Hong Kong, FTW. ;D [15:35] (via eBay) [15:42] It worked for bit when i first installed yesterday. after running the updates it just doesn't turn on when the card is plugged in (unless drivers are absent from the winders wireless driver app). currently running internet on it through an ethernet card [15:42] winders=windows [15:42] What's the model? lspci [15:42] (It is PCI?) [15:43] SAFECOM swlpr-5400 PCI card [15:43] rtl8185L chip [15:45] New to me. [15:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.17/+bug/55905 [15:46] OLD. [15:46] pretty lame model i think [15:47] I just bought a new mini-PCI Intel PRO 2915 from Hong Kong via eBay for $20 shipped. :) [15:47] Works great. [15:47] gives a soft lockup on boot [15:47] Lame. [15:47] nice. bet it doesn't work! [15:48] I'm on it right now! [15:48] :D [15:48] I've actually had quite a bit of luck with cheap parts from Hong Kong. [15:49]