[01:15] <RAOF> Is anyone else receiving PPA build-failures from the past?  I've just received two telepathy-ppa logs dated 2nd of December 08.
[01:22] <cody-somerville> RAOF, Can you pastebin the entire e-mail with headers?
[01:23] <RAOF> cody-somerville: http://paste2.org/p/137740
[01:23]  * RAOF loves Do's "selected text -> pastebin" functionality
[01:25] <cody-somerville> RAOF, It appears it got delayed somewhere along the relay.
[01:26] <cody-somerville> RAOF, was it maybe held in moderation? :P
[01:26] <RAOF> Heh.
[04:06] <maxb> A random wondering
[04:07] <maxb> Why do buildds sit idle when there are queued builds?
[04:07] <maxb> (according to https://launchpad.net/+builds)
[04:07] <cody-somerville> because launchpad runs on cron job
[04:08] <cody-somerville> or because there is a bug
[04:09] <LaserJock> do the public buildds ever get used for Private PPAs, I can imagine that could also explain it
[04:16] <cody-somerville> Yes but it shows that a private build is building
[04:17] <LaserJock> ah, I didn't know
[06:11] <sm> evening all. How do I get rid of the old 2006/2008 failure reports at https://translations.launchpad.net/zwiki/trunk/+imports ?
[06:12] <sm> and thanks for the new partial po export, I am giving lp translations another whirl
[06:18] <spm> sm: the guys you want should be starting in the next hour or 2. Suggest try asking then?
[06:18] <sm> thanks spm
[06:19] <sm> in case they read logs, also it reported problems exporting files when I used https://translations.launchpad.net/zwiki/trunk/+pots/zwiki , everything, partial po format
[06:21] <spm> sm:  I should add - if you get no joy, shoot a question in via the lp answers. that'll get routed to the right person.
[07:28] <savvas> The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server.
[07:28] <savvas> The proxy server could not handle the request GET /~medigeek/+junk/packages2sqlite/annotate/head:/COPYING.
[07:29] <savvas> http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~medigeek/+junk/packages2sqlite/annotate/head:/COPYING
[07:29] <savvas> looks like someone woke up and broke launchpad hehehe
[07:31] <spiv> spm: still around? ^
[07:32] <spm> spiv: hrm. chasing.
[07:34] <spm> savvas: should be good now
[07:34] <savvas> yep, thanks spm :)
[08:59] <SiDi> Hi hi
[09:06] <SiDi> Is there a way to get PGP keys for a PPA if we only have port 80/443 opened ?
[09:06] <SiDi> The URL for accessing the key uses the port 11371 :/
[09:08] <al-maisan> SiDi: Not sure what port gpg uses but would "gpg --recv-keys" work for you?
[09:09] <mwhudson> the keys should propagate around the keyservers, so if you can find any keyserver that listens on a port you have open, you should be able to get it from there
[09:09] <SiDi> I tried the command line version on launchpad's wiki
[09:09] <SiDi> and it fails to contact the server :/
[09:11] <SiDi> mwhudson: where can i find other keyservers ?
[09:11] <mwhudson> SiDi: dunno, sorry
[09:11] <mwhudson> i'd have to google :)
[09:11] <SiDi> hehe it's ok
[09:12] <SiDi> i'll do it next time i get the internet :)
[09:21] <mwhudson> SiDi: maybe try gpg --keyserver hkp://keyserver.kjsl.com:80 ?
[09:21] <mwhudson> seems to be very slow
[09:21] <SiDi> Ok gonna try
[09:22] <SiDi> Who does this server belong to, though ? :O
[09:23] <petski> Hi, just add one comment to one bugnumber (bug 276603, which is having 3 relations: one for the project, one for the ubuntu package, one for a ubuntu release). My +karma page now shows I've added 3 comments (instead of one). I think this is unexpected behavior and might a bug (?)
[09:23] <mwhudson> SiDi: dunno, some random dude on the internet :)
[09:23] <SiDi> Doesn't work anyways :P
[09:23] <SiDi> Thanks mwhudson i'll just manage this another day
[09:23] <mwhudson> bah
[09:24] <mwhudson> np
[09:24] <SiDi> (or either it's really very very slow huhu :P)
[09:27] <jamesh> SiDi: subkeys.pgp.net is usually a good setting for the keyserver.  It points to a bunch of keyservers that all sync with each other.
[09:29] <SiDi> But will it get my key uploaded to the ubuntu's keyserver ?
[09:30] <jamesh> the keyserver Launchpad uses synchronises with the public keyservers, so yes.
[09:30] <jamesh> not instantly though.
[09:41] <Philip5> riksta: btw, i just tried the new version of kitchen sync that comes with the latest kdepim and it works with the new version of opensync as a frontend... that means kde apps though but i don't know any other frontend that's cutting edge when it comes to opensync support
[10:22] <SiDi> Good bye peeps, have a nice day
[10:40] <AnAnt> Hello, what's the idea of changing the PPA URL paths ?
[10:40] <noodles775> AnAnt: to allow users to have multiple PPAs...
[10:40] <AnAnt> how's that ?
[10:41] <noodles775> In the examples in the email, the 'ppa' is actually the name of your current 'default' ppa
[10:41] <noodles775> So another example would be:
[10:41]  * noodles775 looks for email
[10:41] <AnAnt> there's a typo in the email
[10:41] <AnAnt> lp.net
[10:42] <AnAnt> instead of launchpad.net
[10:43] <noodles775> AnAnt: yes, good point. The other example would be launchpad.net/~user/+archive/my_other_ppa, for the overview page, for example.
[10:43] <AnAnt> I see
[10:43] <noodles775> Or ppa.launchpad.net/user/my_other_ppa/ubuntu for the archive etc.
[10:49] <AnAnt> thanks
[10:49] <AnAnt> why would one have several PPAs ?
[11:09] <oojah> AnAnt: To support different groups of projects perhaps?
[11:57] <alex-weej> You reported this bug a while ago and there hasn't been
[11:57] <alex-weej> any activity in it recently. We were wondering is this still an issue
[11:57] <alex-weej> for you?
[11:58] <alex-weej> i'm sick of my bugs being marked Incomplete with stock responses
[11:58] <alex-weej> is there a way for me to quickly reply with "Yes" and change it back from Incomplete to New?
[11:58] <alex-weej> some way to tell Launchpad to change status via email?
[11:58] <alex-weej> so i can make my own stock responses?
[12:02] <salgado> alex-weej, yes, you can reply to the e-mail you got to add comments and/or change the bug
[14:47] <CarlFK> I want to add  https://edge.launchpad.net/~carlfk/+archive/ppa using a preseed file.
[14:47] <CarlFK> what;s the url of the key?
[14:48] <CarlFK> like : d-i apt-setup/local0/key string http://akirad.cinelerra.org/dists/akirad.key
[14:50] <cprov> CarlFK: the pub key is available from any (PKS) keyserver -> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2EB11AEDA224C43C
[14:51] <cprov> CarlFK: but I'm not aware of your suggestion to setup the key, can you elaborate ?
[14:55] <CarlFK> cprov: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/i386/preseed-contents.html#preseed-apt
[14:55] <CarlFK> # Additional repositories, local[0-9] available
[14:56] <CarlFK> #d-i apt-setup/local0/key string http://local.server/key
[14:56] <CarlFK> follow?
[14:56] <cprov> CarlFK: let me check the docs
[14:56] <CarlFK> hmm, i guess I need to go the other direction from deatail
[14:57] <CarlFK> the alt installer (old text based one) supports reading options from a preseed file, so that you don't have to manually answer them on the screen
[15:00] <cprov> CarlFK: I see, interesting. It will probably work with the keyserver URL, but it would be easier to have the key available directly from LP like <user>/+archive/ppa/+signing-key
[15:01] <cprov> CarlFK: this way, if the signing key changes you wouldn't have to change the preseed configuration.
[15:05] <CarlFK> cprov: so you think this? http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x2EB11AEDA224C43C
[15:05] <CarlFK> ill give it a shot... but it takes 15min per shot
[15:06] <cprov> CarlFK: yes, I do. But TBH, you could simple ship the public key within the installation image, couldn't you ?
[15:07] <CarlFK>  installation image?
[15:07] <CarlFK> oh... CD?  (there is no media...)
[15:08] <cprov> CarlFK: wherever you ship the preseed configuration.
[15:08] <CarlFK> the installer (kernel/initrd) gets pxe net booted, the preseed is a file on a local web server, the .deb's are found on a local mirror.
[15:09] <CarlFK> it's one more file to deal with.  rather just pull from the source
[15:13] <cprov> CarlFK: right, I understand, you could simply copy the pub key to your local mirror them and avoid to hit a external URL. Is that your concern ?
[15:24] <CarlFK> cprov: yeah
[15:26] <CarlFK> for one ppa, especially mine, no biggie.  but if I am using a few (I currently use about 2 others) it would get annoying
[16:28] <Turl> hello
[16:28] <Turl> I received a mail about the changes in PA
[16:28] <Turl> PPA*
[16:28] <mrevell> Hi Turl
[16:29] <Turl> I was wondering, will I be able to use the ppa:myusername syntax with dput when the changes take place?
[16:29] <Turl> like dput ppa:turl filename.changes
[16:29] <mrevell> cody-somerville may be able to answer that ^^^^^
[16:30] <vadi2> How can I go about getting my launchpad project renamed?
[16:31] <cody-somerville> Turl, you'll have to type: dput ppa:turl/<ppa name> <changesfile>
[16:31] <Turl> cody-somerville: ok :) and how can I add/remove/rename ppas? so to have ppa names
[16:32] <cody-somerville> Turl, right now, I think that it'll be turl/turl
[16:32] <cody-somerville> Turl, that feature isn't available yet
[16:32] <Turl> isn't it turl/ppa ?
[16:36] <cody-somerville> Turl, probably ;]
[16:36] <mrevell> vadi2: File a request here:
[16:37] <mrevell> vadi2: https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[16:37] <mrevell> cheers cody-somerville :)
[16:37] <vadi2> mrevell: ok
[16:37] <cody-somerville> mrevell, cheers :)
[16:42] <cprov> Turl: ìt's 'turl/ppa' indeed.
[16:42] <Turl> thanks cprov
[16:49] <cassidy> james_w: hi. Did you see my comment on your blog? I'd be interested in your ppamadison script
[16:50] <james_w> hey cassidy, I did, but I forgot to reply, sorry
[16:50] <cassidy> np :)
[16:50] <james_w> I can pass it to you, but it will currently make you tear your hair out :-)
[16:50] <cassidy> is it that bad? :)
[16:50] <james_w> it requires you to set up OAuth credentials on every invocation
[16:50] <cassidy> :(
[16:50] <james_w> not a difficult problem to fix though
[16:51] <maxb> There must be code already in ubuntu-dev-tools to borrow for fixing that
[16:51] <cassidy> I'd like to run my script automatically
[16:51] <cassidy> so that's a bit annoying
[16:51] <james_w> if you're just interested in the code so that you can integrate it with your tool then it will work fine
[16:51] <james_w> maxb: it's easy code to write
[16:51] <maxb> Easier still if you don't have to write it :-)
[16:51] <james_w> but making it depend on u-d-t would allow us to use a library function I believe
[16:52] <cassidy> james_w: do you plan to improve it soonish?
[16:53] <james_w> hmm, looks like I might have deleted it :-)
[16:53] <james_w> it needs a bit more exposed in the lp ui to work well really
[16:53] <james_w> and in fact we should have lpmadison instead, and add a --ppa option to that
[16:54] <maxb> There's no madison for ports.ubuntu.com right now, is there?
[16:54] <cassidy> would be cool yeah
[16:54] <james_w> http://people.ubuntu.com/~jamesw/ppamadison
[16:56] <cassidy> thanks!
[16:57] <cassidy> let me know if you improve it
[16:58] <cassidy> james_w: isn't it possible to skip the login and use the API as anonyme?
[16:58] <maxb> Sadly no.
[16:58] <james_w> nope
[16:58] <cassidy> :(
[16:58] <maxb> Which is a rather peculiar design decision
[16:59] <cassidy> you don't plan to allow that?
[17:00] <maxb> I asked during the Launchpad session of Ubuntu Developer Week, and was told "Maybe in the future, it's being considered"
[17:01] <cassidy> sounds like fail :\
[17:01] <savvas> you can always use w3m or lynx while in console
[17:01] <maxb> There's always screenscraping :-/
[17:03] <savvas> hm..
[17:03] <savvas> maybe I could use packages2sqlite to make a package database for ports as well
[17:23] <cassidy> james_w: humm, I have to join this group to be able to use your script, right? https://launchpad.net/~launchpad-beta-testers
[17:23] <james_w> I believe so
[17:24] <cassidy> can you approve me? :)
[17:28] <mrevell> james_w: If you can't let me know
[17:29] <mrevell> actually, don't worry, I'll do it james_w and cassidy
[17:29] <james_w> thanks mrevell
[17:31] <savvas> hrm... why doesn't launchpad provide a simple text file without headers for the PPA key?
[17:32] <savvas> I mean without the "Public Key Server -- Get ``0xb530d6dcb5140445 ''"
[17:32] <savvas> http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB530D6DCB5140445
[17:33] <mrevell> cassidy: Done!
[17:33] <mrevell> cprov: savvas has a suggestion for making it easier to get PPA keys ^^^^^
[17:34] <cassidy> mrevell: thanks!
[17:34] <mrevell> np :)
[17:34] <cprov> savvas: that's not a LP url, it comes from the keyserver
[17:36] <cprov> savvas: other guys have suggested that we should provide a LP page with the corresponding signing-key inline, so users could use `wget https://lp.net/~cprov/+archive/ppa/+key`
[17:37] <cprov> savvas: I'm not too keen about it since it wouldn't work for private PPAs.
[17:38] <savvas> cprov: hm.. I could do a perl script to grab the "pre" from there if you want it.. but it's really simple with HTML::Parser
[17:38] <cprov> savvas: btw, gpg ignores the keyserver extra HTML and import the key just fine.
[17:38] <cprov> savvas: does `apt-key` gets confused about the headers ?
[17:38] <savvas> then there's the other thing.. Software Sources should allow to import from a text box
[17:39] <savvas> cprov: no idea, I'll try :)
[17:39] <cprov> savvas: it doesn't -> GET 'http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0xB530D6DCB5140445' | sudo apt-key add -
[17:39] <cprov> savvas: it works just fine as well
[17:40] <cprov> savvas: so will 'Software Source -> Authentication' method.
[17:41] <savvas> nice
[17:41] <savvas> mrevell: you should update your video tutorial :P
[17:42]  * mrevell reads up
[17:43] <mrevell> sorry, I'm confused
[17:43] <savvas> mrevell: er.. no wait
[17:44] <savvas> ignore that comment
[17:45] <savvas> cprov: do you know where I could ask for keyserver to provide a "raw" key? answers.launchpad.net ? which project?
[17:46] <savvas> it doesn't work if you try and import the saved html from System > Administration > Software Sources > Authentication
[17:46] <cprov> savvas: I know, but why would need that ?
[17:47] <cprov> savvas: let me check the UI method.
[17:47] <savvas> ease of use?
[17:49] <savvas> I guess I need to file a wishlist bug for software sources as well, to accept keys directly from the GUI, a text box or something, instead of retrieving files etc etc
[17:49] <cprov> savvas: are you saving the page as html ?
[17:50] <savvas> isn't that what wget does?
[17:50] <cprov> savvas: instead of copying the content to the clipboard and paste it to a file.
[17:50] <savvas> cprov: no wait, misunderstood here, I know how to do it, I'm just suggesting a better, easier way to import the PPA keys for common users :)
[17:50] <cprov> savvas: the key is in a iframe, apparently wget fetches it while firefox doesn't.
[17:51] <savvas> oh.. I see
[17:51] <cprov> savvas: mrevell screencast uses the clipboard, nothing wrong with that.
[17:52] <savvas> you're right, my bad with the html saved page
[17:52] <cprov> savvas: in fact, the iframe is added by FireGPG, AFAICS
[17:52] <cprov> savvas: the keyserver page doesn't use it.
[17:54] <savvas> oh well, I guess I'll have to mention the wget with apt-key add then
[17:54] <cprov> savvas: so GET and `wget` fetch the right content, if you load it with FF + firegpg it gets replaced by an <iframe>
[17:55] <cprov> oh, nice FF just died :(
[17:59] <CyHawk> hi! browsing my files gives "Internal Server Error": http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~darabos-daniel/eoec/extension-translator/files/head:/Extension%20Translator/
[17:59] <CyHawk> can you elaborate on that? :)
[18:00] <CyHawk> i have just recently (maybe 20 minutes?) pushed them, so it may be something transient for all i know
[18:18] <stdin> CyHawk: seems to be working again
[18:18] <CyHawk> the folder i linked to works, but not any of the files in it
[18:18] <CyHawk> did you click on one of them?
[18:20] <CyHawk> the subdirectories do not work either but they do not give "Internal Server Error" messages either (they return me to the root in some strange way)
[18:20] <stdin> ouch
[18:21] <CyHawk> i pushed to this new branch with "--use-existing-dir"
[18:21] <CyHawk> i've never done so before, but after some reading up i thought it should not hurt
[18:21] <stdin> seems to be a problem with the URLs
[18:22] <stdin> eg: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~darabos-daniel/eoec/extension-translator/files/head:/Extension%20Translator/META-INF/ works
[18:22] <stdin> yeah http://bazaar.launchpad.net/%7Edarabos-daniel/eoec/extension-translator/files/head%3A/Extension%2520Translator/META-INF/ is wrong
[18:23] <stdin> it's encoded "%20" (space) as % and 20
[18:23] <CyHawk> oh, you're right, somehow the space becomes %20 (that is alright so far) then the %20 becomes %2520
[18:23] <stdin> % = %25
[18:23] <CyHawk> so code browsing does not support folder names with space?
[18:24] <stdin> it really should, but something is wrong
[18:24] <stdin> I'm sure I've browsed code with spaces in it before
[18:25] <stdin> I'm guessing the link is getting percent-encoded twice for some reason
[18:25] <CyHawk> yes. do you know which version of loggerhead is running on launchpad?
[18:25] <CyHawk> maybe i could take a look at the source
[18:28] <stdin> I don't know, but https://code.launchpad.net/~launchpad-pqm/loggerhead/devel suggests trunk
[18:31] <CyHawk> i took a look in another branch with spaces (http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~darabos-daniel/eoec/trunk/files/head:/examples/) and here I can not enter the directories that have a space
[18:31] <CyHawk> i never noticed it before, so it may be a new problem
[18:32] <CyHawk> maybe it will be gone by tomorrow :)
[18:32] <stdin> I guess you should report a bug ;) https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-loggerhead
[18:32] <CyHawk> thanks for the help!
[18:32] <CyHawk> okay
[18:38] <CyHawk> reported: https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-loggerhead/+bug/322854
[18:38] <CyHawk> oh, did not know about ubottu :)
[18:39] <CyHawk> thanks again, bye!
[18:58] <hyperair> when sending mail to new@bugs.launchpad.net, am i supposed to receive a reply from lp or not? i don't seem to
[18:58] <hyperair> and it would be nice to know the bug number
[19:24]  * mwhudson hates url encoding
[19:25] <hyperair> javascript:escape(bla)
[19:27] <andersk> It is important to understand the difference between escape(), encodeURI(), and encodeURIComponent().
[19:28] <hyperair> well generally escape() handles just fine
[19:28] <andersk> No, that isn't true.  See bug 320674 for example.
[19:39] <psycose> hi
[19:48] <DBO> does lp provide an automated way to drop a tarball?
[19:48] <hyperair> drop a tarball?
[19:48] <DBO> make a tarball so its available in the downloads page
[19:48] <DBO> from trunk
[19:48]  * hyperair has no idea!
[19:49] <hyperair> i'm looking for an ia64 and hppa buildd though. has anyone seen one that i could get access to?
[19:49] <hyperair> for testing purposes
[19:58] <thomasdelbeke> Hi there
[19:59] <thomasdelbeke> Anyone home?
[19:59] <jpds> hyperair: Try asking on the debian-hppa mailing list.
[20:00] <hyperair> hmm
[20:00] <hyperair> jpds: but then i need ubuntu packages! =O
[20:00] <thomasdelbeke> I talked to a guy called hggdh a while ago
[20:00] <jpds> hyperair: Ah, right.
[20:00] <hyperair> jpds: ftbfs on ubuntu-hppa
[20:00] <thomasdelbeke> I think it was ubuntu-bugs?
[20:00] <hyperair> jpds: if qemu could handle it i'd use qemubuilder, but qemu doesn't so.. =(
[20:15] <mtaylor> statik: is ubuntu moving from grub to lilo for jaunty?
[20:42] <mwhudson> good morning launchpad
[20:46] <magcius> Good morning mwhudson
[20:47] <magcius> Is there a reason why Launchpad doesn't use the ZODB?
[20:47] <magcius> Or at least SQLAlchemy.
[20:48] <__Ali__> how does the auto build system work?
[20:48] <magcius> __Ali__, it's not working right now.
[20:48] <mwhudson> DBO: that's something we'd like to support one day
[20:48] <mwhudson> DBO: in that sort of "don't hold your breath" "one day", though :/
[20:48] <__Ali__> magcius: any more info? cannot find anything useful on the omepage
[20:48] <magcius> __Ali__, the build system is backed up. That's all.
[20:49] <__Ali__> magcius: so, it's gonna be back in days, weeks, or is it gone forever?
[20:49] <magcius> __Ali__, I have no idea when it will be back.
[20:49] <sproaty> should I put up the first version of my app onto LP? It's okay feature-wise, but could do with performance tuning
[20:50] <sproaty> I'm interested in using launchpad for its feedback system and logging of file commits
[20:50] <magcius> sproaty, throw it in a junk branch.
[20:50] <sproaty> magcius: can they be transferred to a "real" branch?
[20:51] <magcius> sproaty, I'm not sure.
[20:51] <magcius> sproaty, if you would want to do that, I say create a project.
[20:51] <sproaty> that's what I want to do
[20:51] <sproaty> just wasn't sure if it was acceptable for early versions
[20:52] <sproaty> e.g., it's fine feature-wise, just some things are a bit quirky
[20:52] <__Ali__> magcius: how long has buildd been off?
[20:52] <magcius> __Ali__, a few days.
[20:53] <mwhudson> sproaty: sure, create a project
[20:53] <sproaty|away> cool :D
[20:54] <sproaty|away> just out of interest, how does Whyteboard sound [for a whiteboard app..]. It's in Python but couldn't think of a clever way of pun-ing "Py" into whiteboard without sounding rather lame
[20:54] <magcius> sproaty|away, for all sanity do not use the "py" cliche.
[20:55] <sproaty|away> :) gotcha
[20:55] <sproaty|away> whyteboard sounds cool to me anyway
[20:56]  * sproaty|away gone*
[20:56] <magcius> sproaty|away, imagine if Launchpad had been called Pycodehub
[20:56] <rockstar> magcius, it's not restricted to Python apps though.  :)
[20:57] <magcius> rockstar, I know. But it is developed in Python though.
[21:59] <__Ali__> how can i delete a project from launchpad?
[21:59] <spm> __Ali__: ask nicely and I can action it for you :-) Preferably via a question to assist with the person<->project linkage
[22:00] <__Ali__> spm: sorry i didn't get it :)
[22:01] <mwhudson> answers.launchpad.net/launchpad
[22:02] <__Ali__> so, this was not asked before? it's not that usual?
[22:03] <mwhudson> __Ali__: i don't think i understand the point you are trying to make
[22:04] <__Ali__> mwhudson: all i want is to delete a project i created, how do i do that?
[22:04] <mwhudson> __Ali__: you ask an admin, like spm, to do it
[22:04] <mwhudson> __Ali__: we don't delete projects just because some random dude on irc asks us to
[22:04] <mwhudson> and the expectation is indeed that you don't delete projects
[22:05] <mwhudson> launchpad is around open source, collaboration
[22:05] <__Ali__> mwhudson: so i have to ask it by the 'answers' interface in public?
[22:05] <mwhudson> that conflicts with projects disappearing
[22:05] <mwhudson> __Ali__: yes, why not?
[22:06] <__Ali__> mwhudson: why yes? it's wired, sourceforge has a little X sign which allows you to delete a project
[22:06] <mwhudson> __Ali__: well, we're not sourceforge :)
[22:07] <LarstiQ> __Ali__: others might be using the information from the project
[22:07] <mwhudson> __Ali__: part of it is that there is a reason to have a project on launchpad even if launchpad isn't the "home" for the project
[22:07] <mwhudson> to make translating bugs from ubuntu to upstream
[22:07] <__Ali__> LarstiQ: i see, no, i just created the project minutes ago and i need to restructure th ewhol ething
[22:07] <mwhudson> __Ali__: in that case, just ask a question already
[22:08] <__Ali__> sure
[22:08] <mwhudson> we probably should allow deleting new projects somehow
[22:08] <mwhudson> but it's a bit of a fuzzy thing
[22:11] <__Ali__> it's easy to check if other packages depend on it?
[22:14] <mwhudson> not really
[22:19] <asabil> hi all
[22:19] <asabil> what's the best way for creating packages in PPA based on some debian packages ?
[22:22] <blueyed> Proxy error on bazaar.launchpad.net: e.g. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~blueyed/b2evolution/dev/revision/6214
[22:25] <spm> blueyed: should be right now
[22:26] <blueyed> spm: no, 503+403 now.
[22:27] <blueyed> spm: now it works.
[22:27] <spm> blueyed: cool
[22:27] <spm> I may have been too fast to "try now" - possibly was still starting up.
[22:29] <blueyed> spm: please add monitoring to whatever you've (re)started! :)
[22:30] <spm> blueyed: trust me it is. it is. :-) Is a known problem that our friendly dev's are tearing hair out, knashing teeth etc fixing.