CIA-3debian-installer: cjwatson * r1028 ubuntu/ (build/pkg-lists/netboot/arm/versatile.cfg debian/changelog):00:21
CIA-3debian-installer: Apparently nic-modules no longer exists on versatile, presumably00:21
CIA-3debian-installer: built-in. Make it optional.00:21
CIA-3debian-installer: cjwatson * r1029 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu1200:25
TheMusocjwatson: I am debugging ubiquity/accessibility, and have come to the realization that I'll likely have to do something console-kitish to get audio permissions right. I haven't 100% confirmed this yet, but its looking likely. What do I need to call console-kit wise to make this happen?00:58
cjwatsonprobably register a consolekit session at login00:58
TheMusothis is in only-ubiquity mode00:58
cjwatsonyou could have a look at the openssh diff between Debian and Ubuntu00:58
cjwatsonthough it's more complicated than you'd want00:59
TheMusoI was thinking of looking at that actually.00:59
cjwatsonmaybe ck-launch-session00:59
TheMusoOk that gives me a starting point at least.00:59
cjwatsonnote that that's a wrapper, you'd run an entire subprocess under it00:59
cjwatsonalternatively you can send dbus messages to register the session01:00
cjwatsonyour diagnosis is almost certainly right; consolekit is one thing ubiquity-dm doesn't do at the moment and probably needs to01:00
cjwatsonoem-config-dm likewise01:00
CIA-3debian-installer: cjwatson * r1030 ubuntu/ (build/config/armel.cfg debian/changelog):01:08
CIA-3debian-installer: Disable armel ads subarchitecture. We don't have a kernel for it (not01:08
CIA-3debian-installer: that Debian does either, but I don't want to support udev-less builds).01:08
CIA-3debian-installer: cjwatson * r1031 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 20081029ubuntu1301:20
NCommandercjwatson, so, I looked at input modules, which only consists of usbhid and usbkbd, things not normally used on an ARM NAS ...07:29
loolcjwatson: Cool it seems you got debian-installer to build!07:40
loolNCommander: Did you see my qcontrol upload?07:41
NCommanderNo, I didn't.07:41
* NCommander is not subscribed to changes07:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 322311 in qcontrol "orion5x armel flavour should provide input-modules" [Undecided,New]07:41
NCommanderSo we build the USB modules directly into the kernel?07:41
loolErf I have a solid polygon drawn on my desktop07:41
NCommanderlool, do you have an intel video card?07:42
loolI do07:42
NCommanderOk, I can confirm that bug07:42
* NCommander had that happen to me07:42
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cjwatsonNCommander: input-modules> its contents vary; it is not limited to those modules10:49
cjwatsonNCommander: for example, Debian's input-modules-2.6.26-1-orion5x-di_1.32_armel.udeb contains:10:49
cjwatson-rw-r--r-- root/root     14445 2009-01-12 10:23 ./lib/modules/2.6.26-1-orion5x/kernel/drivers/input/evdev.ko10:49
cjwatson-rw-r--r-- root/root      6246 2009-01-12 10:23 ./lib/modules/2.6.26-1-orion5x/kernel/drivers/input/keyboard/gpio_keys.ko10:50
cjwatsonthe package description just says "Support for various input methods" and that's about as specific as it gets10:50
cjwatsonand indeed, as lool observed, gpio_keys is the one that qcontrol actually wants10:51
CIA-3choose-mirror: cjwatson * r604 ubuntu/ (5 files in 2 dirs):13:07
CIA-3choose-mirror: Switch default mirror for armel and lpia to13:07
CIA-3choose-mirror: ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/.13:07
CIA-3choose-mirror: cjwatson * r605 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.27ubuntu213:09
CIA-3apt-setup: cjwatson * r160 ubuntu/ (16 files in 8 dirs): Add Release files for jaunty.13:20
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r342 ubuntu/ (136 files in 12 dirs): merge from Debian 1.9813:52
DogWatercjwatson: did you get a chance to look at the hd partitioning bug?13:57
cjwatsonwhich partitioning bug?14:01
cjwatsonsorry I deal with a lot of bugs14:01
cjwatson(also on the phone right now)14:01
DogWatercjwatson: alternative, if there is some preseed early_command string " " I can run to blow away the file systems, that would work too14:15
cjwatsonI have not yet investigated that, sorry, but will14:16
DogWaterso that the partitioner doesn't see that there is a LVM spanned onto two or more physical disks, etc. like parted or fdisk or something..14:16
DogWaterthanks man14:16
DogWaterhrm, so how can I have the mirror files for 8.10-i386/amd64 8.04i386,7.10i386 but not 8.04amd64 lol14:24
DogWatergotta love it14:24
DogWaterI wonder how that is even possible14:28
DogWatermaybe i have a bad initrd for 8.04amd6414:28
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r343 ubuntu/kernel/tests/powerpc/rs64-iv.test: adjust powerpc/rs64-iv.test for Ubuntu kernels14:43
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r344 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog kernel/i386.sh): merge CentaurHauls fixes from trunk14:47
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r345 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog kernel/tests/i386/via-c7-Esther.test): merge r1687 from trunk (CentaurHauls test fixes)14:53
CarlFKd-i passwd/user-password-crypted password [MD5 hash]15:28
CarlFKis that the output of mkpasswd ?15:28
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r346 ubuntu/kernel/ (i386.sh tests/i386/oqo1.test): Transmeta should be fine with 586, just not 68615:29
cjwatsonCarlFK: mkpasswd -m md5, yes15:30
cjwatsonthough actually I have a feeling that it should be sha-512 in jaunty15:31
DogWatercjwatson: howdy, does ubuntu have the 'auto' function in the installer like debian?15:55
cjwatsonnot yet, no15:58
cjwatsonI have been meaning to sort out integrating it properly15:59
cjwatsonit's not trivial since we've switched to console-setup in advance of Debian15:59
DogWatercjwatson: ah, it doesnt really seem to work anyway ;-)16:03
DogWatercjwatson at least i havent been able to get it to work16:03
DogWaterit seems to simply ignore the line16:04
DogWaterso its probably better16:04
DogWatertoo bad they dont have kickstart :D16:04
DogWatercjwatson: wait, is the auto command only available in 5? as far as you know? (sorry i know this has nothing to do with ubuntu)16:13
DogWaterah jeesus16:13
DogWateri was trying to use it in etch16:14
cjwatsonthough I had to think for a moment for what "5" represented16:14
DogWaterthe documentation isnt really clear16:14
cjwatsonDebian people tend to think in terms of codenames :)16:14
cjwatsonhmm, well let me check16:14
DogWaterright, sorry16:14
DogWateri guess i'll have to drop my preseed into their initrd16:14
DogWaterhate dealing with cpio16:14
cjwatsonhmm, apparently I am wrong16:14
cjwatsonhttp://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs02.html.en#preseed-auto mentions it16:14
cjwatsonit may be that it has fewer features in some way - I don't really know16:15
DogWaterhm, i wish they had like a server channel or something the folks in #debian dont seem to know much about preseed, etc16:15
cjwatson#debian-boot is the relevant *developer* channel but do try to investigate things as much as you can for yourself before asking anything there16:16
CarlFKcjwatson: alt installer, got error, hit Alt-F2, see "Press Enter for BB" hit enter, see "Busy Box v1.10.2...." but never get a prompt.  typing is echoed to the screen, but nothing happens when I hit enter16:22
cjwatsonCarlFK: no, I won't help if you show up on IRC, make a one-line bug report, and leave.16:30
DogWateroh the docs were using the wrong syntax, thats why it didnt work, ha ha16:38
DogWaterwoo got it to work almost! ;D16:52
CIA-3oem-config: cjwatson * r587 trunk/ (5 files in 2 dirs):18:09
CIA-3oem-config: Move most debconf-communicator handling into BaseFrontend, to make it18:09
CIA-3oem-config: easier to fetch configuration from debconf there.18:09
CIA-3oem-config: cjwatson * r588 trunk/ (3 files in 2 dirs): Fetch the list of steps to be displayed from debconf (oem-config/steps).18:22
DogWatercjwatson: thank you for working so hard on kickstart, after dealing with d-i today im ready to hang myself, in the docs it says to specify the mirror it is d-i mirror/http/hostname but its really d-i mirror/http/mirror string wth19:06
cjwatsonerr, that means something different19:09
cjwatsonI think you forgot to say 'd-i mirror/country string manual'19:09
cjwatsonif you say that then it *is* mirror/http/hostname; mirror/http/mirror is for interactive use and probably not what you want19:10
cjwatson(mirror/http/mirror represents the prefilled list of plausible mirrors that you get in expert mode; it's in theory preseedable but not really intended for that)19:11
DogWatercjwatson: i put 'US' in for d-i mirror/country string manual why would anyone put 'manual' for that, thats not exactly intuitive19:17
cjwatsonbecause it's what's documented in the installation guide for when you're choosing your hostname manually?19:17
cjwatsonyou *really* need to follow the installation guide when preseeding; you can't guess, I'm afraid19:17
DogWaterheh, i actually went from the example that is linked from the manual19:18
cjwatsonI'm looking at the source from which the example file is generated at the moment19:18
cjwatsond-i mirror/country string manual19:18
cjwatsond-i mirror/http/hostname string &archive-mirror;19:18
cjwatsond-i mirror/http/directory string /ubuntu19:18
cjwatsond-i mirror/http/proxy string19:18
cjwatson("&archive-mirror;" gets substituted along the way)19:18
DogWaterhttp://www.debian.org/releases/etch/example-preseed.txt note the : d-i mirror/country string enter information manually19:20
DogWateri assumed it was indicating that i needed to replace 'enter information manually' with an actual string19:20
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cjwatsonplease don't use the Debian guide for Ubuntu installations19:20
cjwatsonthe Ubuntu guide is on help.ubuntu.com19:21
DogWaterI'm not thats why i thanked you for ubuntu's kickstart system now that i've moved along to working on debian19:21
cjwatsonwell, in etch that string was literally "enter information manually" - it usually says if you need to fill something in19:21
cjwatson(says in a different way, that is)19:21
cjwatsonin lenny and in recent Ubuntu releases I changed it to just "manual" because the spaces were inconvenient for other reasons19:22
cjwatsonbut just type what it says - doesn't pay to be clever ;-)19:22
DogWaterso i should change country to enter information manually remove mirror and add back hostname?19:22
DogWateryour awesome 'confirm removal of LVM' thing doesnt seem to work in their system either, at least not yet, im going to have to use debconf to figure out how to select it probably19:23
cjwatsonit was different in etch; the manual documents it19:23
cjwatsonthough I think the semantics might have been slightly different19:23
cjwatsond-i partman-auto/purge_lvm_from_device boolean true19:23
cjwatsond-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true19:24
DogWateryea  i left those in the example19:24
DogWaterstill asks, lol19:24
cjwatsonoh well, can't help you :)19:24
DogWaterits cool i'll just use the debconf-get thing to figure it out like i did the http/mirror thing19:24
cjwatsonor DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer on the kernel command line, and look at tty4 to see what question it's asking with INPUT19:25
DogWateri can prolly use cdebconf/questions.dat to find it also19:25
DogWaterah, i put it at level 519:26
DogWateri'll try that first as it seems to probably be faster19:26
cjwatson"developer" is equivalent to 5, except that it works for debconf in the installed system too19:26
cjwatsonif you already have DEBCONF_DEBUG=5, then just look at tty419:26
DogWateroh, oddly enough '5' doesnt make it do much of anything in tty419:26
cjwatsonare you sure you typed it correctly? capitalisation is important19:27
DogWateryes, i copied/pasted it from the manual19:27
cjwatsonyou might need to look at the end of /var/log/syslog in case it scrolled off tty419:28
DogWaterwith as much trouble as i've had with deb/ub automation im assuming fbsd is going to suck the worst19:28
DogWaterwith 7 i had to make my own 70mb netboot image ;-)19:29
DogWaterso that should be fun19:29
DogWatercjwatson: anyway the last thing it says is menu item partman-base selected19:33
DogWaterthen a bunch of just random fs debug information19:33
DogWateranyway i'll just look in questions and see if i can find anything19:35
DogWaterthanks for all the help man19:35
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r347 ubuntu/kernel/i386.sh: all K7 systems should be able to cope with at least 58621:28
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r348 ubuntu/kernel/tests/i386/ (amd-k7-old.test pentium-4M-bigmem.test): adjust more new tests for Ubuntu kernels21:30
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r349 ubuntu/kernel/tests/i386/via-c7-Esther.test: Esther CPUs can cope with 686-ish images like server and xen21:32
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r350 ubuntu/kernel/tests/i386/ (6 files): 686 -> 686-may-bigmem for PAE-capable CPUs21:35
CIA-3choose-mirror: cjwatson * r606 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog control):22:05
CIA-3choose-mirror: Fix build-dependencies broken in merge of 2.27, including restoring the22:05
CIA-3choose-mirror: dependency on isoquery so that we can build a proper list of countries22:05
CIA-3choose-mirror: (LP: #321225).22:05
CIA-3choose-mirror: cjwatson * r607 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.27ubuntu322:08
CIA-3base-installer: cjwatson * r351 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.98ubuntu122:18

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