ftaasac, you said you wanted a pet-bug ? ;)01:46
asacreally ;)?01:47
ftathe gtk systray thing...01:47
ftaok, i updated my ppa scripts so that they accept conf files01:49
ftaone step closer to daily builds01:49
ftai can update the branches and push to ppa from my server01:50
ftabut i don't build locally yet01:50
ftai'm not sure i should use my old bot, pbuilder or a full sbuild for that01:51
ftahttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~fta/+junk/ppa-scripts/files (update* and sync* are ready)01:51
ftaasac, ^^01:52
ftaasac, i have to check m-d as it seems it's sometimes going backward with hg commit dates01:53
asacfta: revision ids are supposed to always go forward i think01:54
asacthe time might not ;)01:55
ftathe date is first so it's an issue01:55
asacfta: i think we shouldnt do a local build first01:55
asacfta:  just unpack: quilt push -a ... if no error -> go01:55
ftathen the failure rate will be high01:55
asacwelll ... i think most issues are diverged patches01:56
asacjust quilt push would eliminate that01:56
ftayeah, i often do that when i'm in a hurry or lazy. bzr bdm -e ; cd ../build/whatever ; dquilt push -a01:56
asacimo thtas ok01:56
asaci mean one purpose for dailies is regression window narrowing01:57
asacthe other is detecting build issues automatically ;)01:57
asacwell not really a purpose, but a side effect01:57
asacif we can eliminate most issues by testing quilt push01:57
asacthat should be ok until someone complains01:58
ftaalso, the *.head branches will grow faster once this is on02:01
asacfta: do we really commit stuff for daily builds?02:03
asacwouldnt just bumping version be enough?02:03
asaci mean in case it fails we can hopefulyl reproduce with just that version info02:03
ftanot sure.. the daily branch has a value, but i don't want to force the scripts merge from *.head, too many chances of conflicts, meaning the bot is stuck until someone fixes the daily branch02:07
asacfta: no. i dont mean daily branch02:08
ftaif the bot updates *.head, he will never conflict, but we may02:08
asaci just say the daily builders bump version without committing each and every day02:08
asacbased on .head that is02:08
asacif builders fail we fix head and move on02:08
asacfix head == fix and commit new checkpoint02:09
asacaka changelog bump on every required change02:09
asacand whenever something thinks we should checkpoint (though not sure why to checkpoint if there are no changes)02:09
asacwould that make sens or did i misread the problem02:10
ftai need to think about it a little bit02:12
asacsorry ... tiresome ;)02:12
asacyeah. probably not the right time to decide at 3am02:12
asacfta: imnportant change to ppa notice ... did you get that too?02:16
asacso 30 days ... done02:17
asactoo bad02:17
fta30 days, that means we should probably backup our stuff02:17
ftascreen scrap the ppa for logs, debs, src..02:18
ftaunless there's enough in the lp python api02:18
asacfta: from what i read the logs et al are still there02:18
asacjust the bits not02:18
asacfta: one could probably do ftp synh ;)02:18
asacand disable removal02:19
asaclocal side02:19
asaci think its easiest to ask for exception from this rule02:19
asacwe want 700 days ;)02:19
asachow much is 700 days of xul?02:20
asacwith -dbg package its probably 120M a day ;)02:20
ftabut it's not very handy to ask users to grab a bunch of debs from lp for each test02:20
asacfta: yeah. we would need a wrapper or osmething02:21
ftasomething like dget --with-binaries lp:.../*.dsc02:22
asacusuually saying apt-get install xulrunner-1.9=version xulrunner-1.9-gnome-support=version should work02:23
ftaonly if the files are in the archives02:23
ftaonly the last one is02:23
ftathe others are in lp librarian something, and 30 days only02:24
asacfta: in librarian?02:25
asacthats easy then ;)02:25
asac... to trick02:25
asachmmm ... maybe not02:25
ftai think they added a redirect02:25
ftayeah, https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa/+files/some_random.deb02:26
ftaex: https://edge.launchpad.net/~fta/+archive/ppa/+files/gwibber_0.7.3~bzr193-0ubuntu1~fta1_i386.deb02:26
ftawith an HTTP 30202:27
asacfta: do you have something that potentially will get removed?02:28
asacso we can try?02:28
ftawhat do you mean?02:28
asace.g. something longer superseeded or removed02:28
asacfor which we still have the librarian link02:28
ftaDec 2102:29
asacfta: open a bug against sometihng ... put the librarian url of one file init ... and one of a second file, but make it so its not a valid url02:30
asacwith some luck the referenced one will not get removed02:30
ftaand then what? file daily bugs?02:30
asacstupid. would just be fun ;)02:31
asacto see if they parse those urls02:31
asacfile bug: "keep this daily for now"02:31
asacno ... i really think we have to mirror somewhere02:31
asacif we need more that lets say half a year02:31
ftayou can do it yourself ;)02:31
asacotherwise we might be able to get an exception02:32
asacsure. i can start on people.ubuntu.com02:32
asacat some points there will be a complains02:32
asacthen louder complains02:32
asacthen maybe i get forced to remvoe or we get a dedicated place ;)02:32
asacanyway. all this can come when daily stuff is working02:33
asaci can also open a ticket and ask for something more dedicated02:33
asacfor our purpose02:33
asacbut thats easier to do when we have it all runing02:33
asacand then say: "here is something that is not perfect, lets fix it"02:34
asacso the fact that 302 works well is really interesting02:35
asaci will sleep about it ;)02:35
asacgood night02:36
gnomefreakI'm back home at least until March (maybe a wedding) or over the summer for vacation(but should have PC with me10:14
gnomefreakis it me or did they drop seamonkey-mailnews from seamonkey-2.0?10:19
gnomefreakseems seamonkey-1.1.13 is out of date as well newest release 1.1.1410:24
BUGabundoone more thing10:27
BUGabundoI'm trying to test this10:27
BUGabundoand FF keeps segfaulting10:27
BUGabundojava bug?10:28
gnomefreaksort of :(10:28
BUGabundognomefreak: don't use it with your regular Firefox10:28
BUGabundoor you will lose your session10:29
gnomefreakgood because it works here in 3.210:29
BUGabundoalready happened to me 3 times in two browsers10:29
BUGabundo3.1 and .210:29
gnomefreaki'm not segfaulting10:29
BUGabundogrr and 3.010:29
BUGabundono ?10:29
gnomefreakah yes i am10:29
gnomefreakhold that though5t10:29
BUGabundolet me test a new profile10:29
BUGabundoyou did not click the teste, did you ?10:29
gnomefreaki clicked the link but it took a while for apport to pop up10:30
gnomefreakbrowser hasn't closed though10:30
BUGabundook, its not only me10:30
BUGabundono ? mine did10:30
BUGabundofirefox-3.0 \n sh: acroread: not found \n Segmentation fault10:30
BUGabundobut no apport crash here10:31
gnomefreakcan you upgrade libxcb1, libxcb-render0, libx11-6?10:31
BUGabundoother then the usual 3.110:31
BUGabundolet me check10:31
gnomefreakthat is the problem (i'm thinking its apport not supporting 3.210:32
BUGabundolibx11-6:  Installed: 2:
BUGabundois there any upper version of those?10:32
gnomefreaklibx11-6: Installed: 2:1.1.5-2ubuntu2 Candidate: 2:
gnomefreakit looks like they are being held back on my system10:33
gnomefreaklet me see the log here to see why crash10:33
BUGabundoI had to manually distupgrade a few libs today10:33
BUGabundognomefreak: where would I find that?10:34
BUGabundohow can I run $ gdb --arg firefox-3.010:34
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BUGabundohi asac10:35
BUGabundogood morning10:35
gnomefreakBUGabundo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MozillaTeam/Bugs  should have insttructions10:36
gnomefreakfrom crash report it only says that my packages are out of date10:37
gnomefreaklet me upgrade and test (in a few minutes)10:37
BUGabundoinstalling remaining gdb libs10:38
BUGabundohope I have the disk space for it10:38
gnomefreaknope still no go so i have to guess that is why apport cant report it10:39
gnomefreakclicking on start testing10:40
gnomefreakBUGabundo: do you have java installed?10:41
BUGabundonow that I installed all dgb libs it won't crash10:42
BUGabundognomefreak: apparently too many for it to work ok10:42
BUGabundolast one I installed was ice something10:42
gnomefreakthe free version?10:43
BUGabundo[New Thread 0x7f21d79d2950 (LWP 28617)]10:43
BUGabundoProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.10:43
BUGabundo[Switching to Thread 0x7f21dbfff950 (LWP 28616)]10:43
gnomefreakBUGabundo: are you on intrepid or jaunty?10:43
BUGabundohumm I see a seg fault, but it is running still10:43
gnomefreakthats what i got too10:43
BUGabundoI have sun-java 6, and few others too10:43
gnomefreakit seems 3.2 has had that issue for a few days at least10:43
BUGabundoNo space left on device10:44
BUGabundobah!!! I knew this was going to happen with all those 50*MiBs libs10:44
BUGabundoI'm testing this with 3.010:44
gnomefreakBUGabundo: icedtea*?10:44
BUGabundocan I get a seg faul, gdb stops, and Firefox keeps working?10:45
BUGabundoI think so... but let me check galternatives10:45
BUGabundoby the way here is bt full http://paste.ubuntu.com/111187/10:46
BUGabundoahh so FF seg fault, but java kept on running10:46
BUGabundognomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111188/ java packages installed10:47
gnomefreakWe are sorry. Our measurement servers are currently overloaded and cannot serve you at the moment. Please try again later or try our alternative deployment by clicking here.10:48
gnomefreaki'm thinking the crash is only on 3.2 i have 3.1 open with the link and no crash10:48
gnomefreakwith java6-plugijn installed10:49
BUGabundoI'm crashng 3.0 here10:49
BUGabundoor at least seg faulting it10:49
BUGabundolet me try 3.210:49
gnomefreaksun-java6-jre  should be fine10:49
gnomefreak3.2 crashing here10:49
gnomefreak3.1 not and i havent test 3.0 i need to screw around with lavabit10:50
BUGabundohumm no gdb for 3.210:50
BUGabundook swiching from openjdk to sun10:51
gnomefreakBUGabundo: no debug packages for packages that are not in repos10:51
BUGabundoand testing again10:51
BUGabundobut fta could build a few and place in the ppa10:51
gnomefreakSorry, the program "firefox-3.1" closed unexpectedly10:51
gnomefreakYour computer does not have enough free memory to automatically analyze the problem and send a report to the developers.10:51
gnomefreakthats crock10:51
gnomefreakthats a crock10:51
BUGabundoProgram received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault.10:52
BUGabundoagain seg fault with sun java10:52
BUGabundohey I have 4GiBs LOL plus 8GiBs swap10:53
BUGabundoI've never seen that message10:53
BUGabundonew crash http://paste.ubuntu.com/111190/ with java6sun/jre10:54
asaci gnomefreak10:56
gnomefreak111xpcthreadcontext.cpp: No such file or directory. in xpcthreadcontext.cpp10:57
gnomefreakthat looks to be why crash10:57
gnomefreakxpcthreadcontext.cpp: No such file or directory. in xpcthreadcontext.cpp10:57
gnomefreaki would think it would have closed without crashing but guess not10:57
gnomefreakhi asac10:57
gnomefreak568 is outgoing sever for tb right?10:59
asacdo you refer to port number?11:00
asacgnomefreak: hmm ... smtp is usually 25 or something11:00
asacssmtp           465/tcp         smtps           # SMTP over SSL11:00
asacthats for ssmtp11:00
gnomefreakok thanks11:01
asacand without crypto its11:01
asacsmtp            25/tcp          mail11:01
BUGabundoboth 465 and 568 are common ports11:01
BUGabundofor smtps11:01
asacnot according to /etc/services11:03
filipegarciai'm having problems configuring a static ip with NetworkManager11:04
asacbut well ... mail provider should give definitly info what port to use ... then no problem11:04
asacfilipegarcia: how is that?11:04
filipegarciaevery time i create a new static, after reboot the machine, it creates another eth0 with dhcp and uses that11:04
filipegarciai try with the gui and with the /etc/network/interfaces11:05
BUGabundoguys I have to leave for a bit, but if find anything else or need extra debug on that java crash, let me know, ping me here (if pidgin doesn't crash (I didn't like xchat, fta) ), or dent me on identica. cu soon11:07
filipegarciai never had problems with dhcp but i can't use a static ip11:08
filipegarciaok bye BUGabundo and thanks11:08
gnomefreakfinally have a working lavabit account. evo sucks i wasnt able to send from it, brb smoke and coffeee11:10
asacfilipegarcia: try a bit harder. use the gui ... create a new one so its really safed11:11
filipegarciai create a new one and it work fine. but after reboot it creates a new eth0 and start to use that one instead11:12
filipegarciaI mean, if i remove the connect automatically from the dhcp wired connection, after i reboot, it gets connect automatically checked again and i never can make him use the static ip11:35
filipegarciaand if i remove the dhcp wired connection, after reboot, it creates a new one....11:35
asacfilipegarcia: yeap11:40
asacfilipegarcia: try to make a system connection11:40
asacare you sure your new connection is still there after reboot?11:41
filipegarciais still there but not the default one11:41
asacfilipegarcia: in any case ... if you want a fix for this use ~network-manager PPA packages for intrepid11:41
asacwell ... at least that package version has a bunch of fixes sourrouding this issue11:42
filipegarciai already have the 8.1011:45
filipegarciaand every time i check the system connection on the static eth0 , after reboot it gets unchecked11:49
asacfilipegarcia: yes. thats why i sam saying: create new connection and directly check that11:56
asacfilipegarcia: also i am saying try the intrepid packages in ~network-manager PPA11:56
asacthose have fixes for system connection11:56
* gnomefreak fixing flashgot branches while waiting for coffee :)12:01
gnomefreakok flashgot is fixed and pushed to PPA all branhes updated, i'm going for smoke12:40
BUGabundognomefreak: smoke is BAD! you should stop with it!12:41
gnomefreakeh something is going to kill me might as well have fun while waiting12:45
gnomefreakasac: you were last to touch enigmail. you have seamonkey as a dep. however i dont see a way to add it to seamonkey mail news13:01
asacyes. sm is still not supported13:02
asacwe probably wait for sm 2.0 that has the extension manager13:02
gnomefreakasac: if 2.0 had a mail/news app would be great13:02
BUGabundognomefreak: did you manage to track that seg fault?13:02
BUGabundoor anybody else even looked at my bt full?13:03
gnomefreakBUGabundo: no just what i said earlier (the lines i pasted)13:03
BUGabundoshould we file a bug?13:03
gnomefreakonly for 3.013:03
BUGabundoI know13:03
gnomefreak!info firefox-3.1 jaunty13:03
ubottufirefox-3.1 (source: firefox-3.1): safe and easy web browser from Mozilla. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.1~b2+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 883 kB, installed size 3448 kB13:03
gnomefreakBUGabundo: 3.1 as well if you wish13:04
* gnomefreak wasnt sure if 3.1 was in repos but it seems to be13:04
BUGabundobut I have PPA 3.113:04
BUGabundoso its going to be a mess13:04
gnomefreakBUGabundo: than use repos verson to file bug13:04
gnomefreakbtw trying to add fta's key for PPA failed13:05
gnomefreakis this known?13:05
asacthere is no backtrace in http://paste.ubuntu.com/111190/13:05
BUGabundoI did manage to get it in13:06
BUGabundoasac: that was just the 1st13:06
BUGabundowith a simple segfault13:06
BUGabundolatter I run bt full13:06
asacyeah ... not in my backlog13:08
BUGabundotry the next few pastebins13:08
asacno i wont13:08
BUGabundo(10:46:09 AM) freenode: by the way here is bt full http://paste.ubuntu.com/111187/13:08
BUGabundo(10:46:29 AM) freenode: ahh so FF seg fault, but java kept on running13:08
BUGabundo(10:47:29 AM) freenode: gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111188/ java packages installed13:08
gnomefreak.:05:57:23:. <      gnomefreak > xpcthreadcontext.cpp: No such file or  directory. in xpcthreadcontext.cpp  is what i saw13:08
BUGabundo(10:27:40 AM) freenode: one more thing13:09
BUGabundo(10:27:45 AM) freenode: I'm trying to test this13:09
BUGabundo(10:27:45 AM) freenode: http://broadband.mpi-sws.org/transparency/bttest-mlab.php13:09
BUGabundo(10:27:52 AM) freenode: and FF keeps segfaulting13:09
BUGabundo(10:28:02 AM) freenode: java bug?13:09
BUGabundo(10:28:07 AM) gnomefreak: looking13:09
gnomefreaksee above, not a great backtrace if at all but it failed ont he above13:09
gnomefreaks/int he/on the13:09
asacyeah java bug. ffox probably shouldnt crash, but well.13:10
asacif its reproducible that would be ok13:10
* BUGabundo keeps finding strange bugs! it's the love for being a alpha/beta tester13:10
gnomefreakseems that sm download manager still isnt worth a shit13:10
BUGabundoasac: I could try a couple more java sites13:10
BUGabundothis is just ONE site13:11
* gnomefreak doesnt find too many bugs and most are not strange :)13:11
asacBUGabundo: you do strange things to your system like copying stuff manually ... replacing .so files in system paths ... you shouldnt be shocked13:11
BUGabundocome on!!!13:11
BUGabundoits how its meant to be13:12
BUGabundoacording to adobe13:12
asacno really ... if you do that you should really not file bugs13:12
gnomefreakthe least mads you make the better testing is13:12
asacjust flash is ok13:12
BUGabundoif you would like to package it, it would be great13:12
BUGabundowhen I do something out of the "standard" case I tend to mention it13:12
asacBUGabundo: but if you do something similar to other stuff :) ... then you are de-facto not supportable13:12
BUGabundoother then that I try to keep a regular stock system13:13
asacyeah. problem is that one forgets about hacks one did13:13
BUGabundoand always report versions of software installed13:13
asacgood to know13:13
BUGabundoand if possilbe use apport/ubuntu-bugs to collect data13:13
asacyeah. thats good.13:13
BUGabundoI'll be formating and instaling fresh in a few days13:13
asacgood news ;)13:14
BUGabundoas soon as I get my hands on a free 300GiBs disk13:14
BUGabundoto backup everyting before going ext413:14
asacno really. but if you can reproduce the crash with the official sun plugin then you should file it upstream13:14
asacin bugzilla.mozilla.org13:14
gnomefreakok taking break for coffee breakfast13:14
BUGabundoI did13:14
BUGabundowith both java plugins13:14
BUGabundoice and sun13:14
asacthoght it was 64 bit ... sun has 64 bit now?13:15
BUGabundoasac: it was repos version13:15
BUGabundoI guess what ever the java guys at ubuntu pack13:15
asacyeah ... still we dont have sun plugin for 64 bits afaik13:15
asace.g. $ apt-cache search sun java plugin13:16
asacopenoffice.org - OpenOffice.org Office suite13:16
asac$ uname -a13:16
asacLinux hector 2.6.28-4-generic #11-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jan 16 21:50:52 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux13:16
asac$ apt-cache search sun java plugin13:16
asacsun-java5-plugin - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 5.013:16
asacsun-java6-plugin - The Java(TM) Plug-in, Java SE 613:16
asacopenoffice.org - OpenOffice.org Office suite13:16
asac$ uname -a13:17
asacLinux tinya 2.6.29-rc2 #1 SMP Mon Jan 26 22:48:22 CET 2009 i686 GNU/Linux13:17
asacso just 32 bit13:17
BUGabundoits what I have13:17
BUGabundono idea how it works!13:17
BUGabundomaybe some wrapper like flash13:18
asacno there is no wrapper13:19
asacyou definitly did something manually if you have sun plugin13:19
BUGabundoasac: just went to synaptic and clicked on it13:19
asacBUGabundo: there is sun-java13:19
asacbut not a plugin for 64 bit13:19
BUGabundoso that's why it didn't show up on about:plugins13:21
asacobviously yes13:21
BUGabundoand after I installed ice it appeared13:21
asacso its just iced te3a13:21
BUGabundoallways learning13:21
asacif you can reproduce on 32 bit with sun plugin its a firefox bug ... otherwise its an icedtea thing13:21
BUGabundoso chaning galternatives didn't changed anything13:21
asacyou dont get that plugin != jre != sdk13:22
asacthe alternative for jre .... nor sdk doesnt change a thing for the plugin13:22
asacthe plugin alternative has most likely no alternatives for you ;)13:22
BUGabundonow I do... before I didn't13:24
asacnext level ;)13:25
BUGabundookay filling bug against icedtea13:25
BUGabundosee you in a few hours13:48
BUGabundolunch time13:48
asacfta: did you backout the xulrunner-1.9.1-dev conflict on 1.9-dev together with .pc file reanme?15:57
ftai don't think so15:57
ftathey all conflict now15:58
asacfta: ok so 1.9.1 hasnt been updated since?15:58
asacin jaunty?15:58
ftajaunty is stuck to b2, i don't remember when you dropped my .pc hack15:59
asacfta: wanna upload b3pre?15:59
asacfta: yeah. seems like it is really old in jaunty15:59
ftawhen is the 1st b3 build ?15:59
fta[reed], ?15:59
asacnot sure they are currently preparing freeze16:00
asacfta: or upload current head?16:00
asaci would like to get seb easy test instructions for trying ephy with new xul16:01
asacand its easiest to just install -dev and build16:01
ftai'm busy with work right now16:06
BUGabundo1Friends I would like to invite you all to show up at Tokamak, a KDE summit to discuss the future of Plasma. from day 6 to 9, at Porto (ISEP) Portugal. http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/Tokamak2 & http://tuxvermelho.blogspot.com/2009/01/tokamak-ii-no-porto.html16:08
[reed]fta: when all blockers are fixed16:46
[reed]asac: hey, new Firefox maintainer for SLED22:31
ubottuError: Error getting Mozilla bug #460425: NotPermitted22:31
[reed]might want to meet him and see if he'll help out on stuff?22:32

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