[00:13]  * genii sips
[00:24] <Seeker`> on what?
[00:29] <Seeker`> anyone in -uk?
[02:48] <bazhang> on0bi in -irc spamming
[02:49] <tritium> Got him
[02:49] <tritium> (or her, whatever)
[02:49] <bazhang> thanks; just kicked/banned from #ubuntu
[02:50] <bazhang> he/she/it is in -ot as well; anyone with privileges there should keep an eye on him/her
[02:50] <tritium> thanks, bazhang
 the ubuntu channel has a bunch of rude guys in there man they are no help i tell you
[02:52] <bazhang> he is continuing with the botabuse in #kubuntu btw
[02:52] <tritium> I've not got ops in #k
[02:53] <bazhang> me either :)
[02:53] <tritium> Where was that paste from szrhawaii?
[02:54] <bazhang> from #kubuntu
[02:54] <tritium> oh
[03:02] <bazhang> h4xor seems to have been giving out some bad advice; whether knowingly or not
[03:02] <tritium> Indeed
[03:03] <bazhang> szrhawaii in PM complaining about powertripping operators; limiting his 'free speech'
[03:03] <tritium> How so?  In which channels?  Which ops?
[03:03] <bazhang> as if spamming the channel with nonsense requests to the bot had anything to do with said 'free speech'
[03:03] <tritium> Sounds bogus to me...
[03:04] <bazhang> such as '!take life serious'
[03:08] <tritium> Strange.
[03:09] <bazhang> http://paste.ubuntu.com/111107/  <---szrhawaii PM
[03:10] <tritium> sheesh
[03:11] <bazhang> back in #kubuntu, removed from #ubuntu
 I WONDER IF IM BANNED FROM THIS ONE TOO
[03:16] <bazhang> from #kubuntu; I have advised him to come here
[03:16] <bazhang> matt123, how may we help you
[03:17] <matt123> Hi! I was just in kubuntu - someone else just said to someone else to come into this channel.  So I just wondered in to see what this channel was about
[03:19] <bazhang> matt123, as you can see from the topic
[03:19] <matt123> ok, thanks, im going now!
[03:20] <tritium> Wow, he "wondered" in?  As in, just by thinking about it?  Impressive...
[03:20] <bazhang> haha
[03:22] <bazhang> * [tritium6] (n=r@cpe-76-94-238-151.socal.res.rr.com): R  <--troll?
[03:22] <tritium> Not usre.
[03:22] <tritium> sure
[03:24] <tritium> @login
[03:24] <tritium> @btlogin
[03:27] <tritium> bazhang: perhaps not
[03:27] <bazhang> tritium, seems not after all his latest comments
[03:28] <tritium> Yeah
[03:28] <bazhang> nice for once :)
[03:28] <tritium> :)
[03:29] <tritium> I'll be back
[03:38] <bazhang> @login
[04:19] <bazhang> * [oodeadbeefoo] (n=subinacl@pool-72-82-106-109.nrflva.east.verizon.net): SubInAcls
[04:20] <tritium> yeah
[04:20] <bazhang> ban evasion?
[04:20] <tritium> No, I only muted him.
[04:21] <bazhang> err mute evasion then (if such a thing exists)  :)
[04:22] <tritium> heh
[04:35] <nickrud> bazhang, you've gotta stop all this power tripping ;p
[04:36]  * tritium trips on bazhang's power
[04:36] <Flannel> oh no.  You tripped over the power and pulled out the plug!
[04:36] <nickrud> tritium, your power is so high, you can't see bazhang's!
[04:36]  * nickrud check cloak. Darn, it's there ;(
[04:37] <tritium> nickrud: you must have me confused with Flannel or yourself ;)
[04:37] <bazhang> nikrud?
[04:37] <bazhang> oh with added vitamin C!
[04:37] <nickrud> heh. A few days ago I had someone go off on me like that. If it wasn't for the immense power I have, I might have been moved :)
[04:37] <bazhang> nickrud, !!
[04:37] <bazhang> haha
[04:38] <bazhang> !powertrip
[04:38] <bazhang> mmkay
[04:38] <nickrud> point amara nth at that, he might have a cute one 
[04:39] <bazhang> and then will be immediately dis abled by jus si01
[04:39] <nickrud> staid europeans :(
[04:40]  * nickrud check clock
[04:40] <bazhang> szrhawaii seems to have calmed down and is being somewhat helpful in #kubuntu now
[04:40] <tritium> bazhang: that's good
[04:40] <bazhang> tritium, sure is
[04:41] <bazhang> seems the weekends start very early on irc
[04:41] <nickrud> same with the guy I got read the riot act by. 
[04:41] <tritium> nickrud: you too, eh?
[04:42] <Flannel> Someone read you the riot act via IRC?
[04:42] <nickrud> days ago. Banned him for 24, but pulled it early. He showed back up a few days later, and was helpful and less disruptive. Had a better sense of the channel flow
[04:57] <bazhang> * On0bi (n=on0bi@75-169-252-2.slkc.qwest.net) has joined #ubuntu-irc
[04:57] <bazhang> also in -ot
[04:57] <tritium> Oh, him again...
[04:57] <bazhang> his response to spamming -irc 'this is irc!'
[04:58] <tritium> I saw that earlier.
[04:58] <nickrud> irc <> freenode
[04:58] <bazhang> ie google new world order
[04:59] <nickrud> don't! My plans, my plans, don't read my plans!
[04:59] <Flannel> dun red mai planes, bro.
[05:05] <tritium> bazhang: quickly removed him in -rc
[05:05] <tritium> -irc, even
[05:22] <tritium> I'm thinking of getting some sleep.
[05:22] <bazhang> always a good choice :)
[05:22] <tritium> :)
[05:22] <tritium> Good night, bazhang, nickrud, Flannel!
[05:22] <bazhang> bye tritium :)
[05:35] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index.html <--free pdf (made so by the author)
[05:36] <Flannel> Aye, and the deadtree edition is only $10
[05:36]  * Flannel is going to buy some to give away as prizes for LoCo stuffs.
[05:37] <Flannel> Although as far as I know, you can only buy them online as of now.  I'd much prefer a B&M purchase.
[05:37] <bazhang> nice idea
 is permissions the only bad thing about an ntfs /home partition?  trolling?
[06:13] <nalioth> bazhang: looks like a valid question to me
 bazhang, you troll. People have done it, but almost nobody recommends it.
[06:18] <bazhang> ntfs home on a ubuntu install? really?
[06:18] <Flannel> bazhang: He's not trolling, he's genuinely curious.
[06:18] <bazhang> people have done it?
[06:19] <Flannel> I'm not really sure it's possible, since NTFS-3g is a fuse thing, so its userspace.
[06:19] <Flannel> But, I'm not up on my NTFS mounting stuffs, so...
[06:20] <bazhang> vista partition to ext3? his next bit of curiousity
[06:20] <Flannel> He's just confused.  There's certainly no malice.  You're far too accusatory.
[06:21] <Flannel> maybe not confused, maybe naive or something.
[06:25] <On0bi> hi
[06:28] <On0bi> can i join #ubuntu?
[06:29] <bazhang> On0bi, you were repeatedly using silly factoids with the bot in #ubuntu, even after being asked to stop
[06:29] <On0bi> i stopped
[06:29] <On0bi> after you said
[06:30] <On0bi> i was just asking why
[06:30] <bazhang> after you were muted only.
[06:30] <On0bi> you muted me for using the bot, why was i banned?
[06:30] <bazhang> it is a busy channel, plus those silly factoids such as !sex and !conspiracy are a form of spam in a busy channel
[06:31] <On0bi> i was just being silly..
[06:31] <bazhang> you then went into -irc and continued that.
[06:32] <bazhang> On0bi, and you were asked to stop. yet ignored those requests
[06:32] <On0bi> actually i did not
[06:32] <On0bi> i did the factoids in #ubuntu
[06:32] <bazhang> and via PM you refused to reply or acknowledge
[06:32] <On0bi> in irc i asked people to google new world order
[06:32] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntu.com/community/conduct/
[06:33] <bazhang> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines
[06:33] <On0bi> and when you pm'd me i did respond
[06:33] <bazhang> read those
[06:34] <bazhang> On0bi, how is 'google new world order' related to ubuntu support? and those silly factoids? you were already in #ubuntu-offtopic and presumably can read the channel topics
[06:34] <On0bi> because, if i post it in each room i get a larger audiance
[06:36] <bazhang> a larger audience? you realize that #ubuntu is for ubuntu-related support questions, and #ubuntu-offtopic is for chat?
[06:37] <On0bi> yes, i know that now
[06:37] <bazhang> On0bi, and you were prevented from reading the channel topics, or just failed to read them?
[06:38] <On0bi> i did not understand them. i assumed the titles irc was meant for chatting
[06:38] <bazhang> On0bi, please read the two links I pasted above.
[06:39] <On0bi> Be considerate   respectful   collaborative   When you disagree, consult others    When you are unsure, ask for help    Step down considerately
[06:40] <On0bi> Don't flood the channel
[06:40] <bazhang> yep
[06:40] <On0bi> i'm sorry, i won't do that anymore
[06:40] <bazhang> On0bi, as it seems you are new to irc I am willing to unban you, provided you try to follow those in the future
[06:41] <bazhang> On0bi, ie keeping appropriate chats where they belong as well
[06:41] <On0bi> did you ban me becuase i called you a communisy?
[06:41] <bazhang> so for example 'google lolcats' would be best expressed in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:41] <tritium> On0bi: that was *highly* inappropriate
[06:41] <On0bi> :| i apologize 
[06:41] <bazhang> On0bi, no, nothing to do with it
[06:42] <bazhang> On0bi, so you agree to all what we have discussed, in re behaviour in the various channels?
[06:42] <On0bi> i do
[06:44] <bazhang> On0bi, please rejoin now and I will unmute you
[06:44] <On0bi> thanks
[06:45] <bazhang> you are unmuted, and please behave
[06:45] <On0bi> thanks bai
 aha! i am FREE
[06:45] <bazhang> :/
[06:46] <tritium> he's already starting again
[06:47] <bazhang> wait you went to sleep!
[06:47] <tritium> I know.  I'm woke up for a bit.
[06:54] <tritium> Perhaps I should go back to bed.  I think I'm irritable.
[06:55] <tritium> Good night (again).
[06:57] <bazhang> night :)
[07:45] <bazhang> nbeebo unbanned in -ot?
[09:00] <ikonia> FYI: if anyone using the name NGL-* comes in today requesting their bans be removed - please don't. They have made threats to come and kill me or "send the boys around" been rude and offensive etc etc, and are now trying to pretend that is was all a joke
[09:04] <bazhang> ikonia, he was in #kubuntu earlier today
[09:04] <ikonia> yes, and he still is
[09:04] <ikonia> in my view should be removed totally from ubuntu as he's again making threats
[09:04] <bazhang> please notify staff ikonia 
[09:04] <ikonia> "you don't know who I work for, I'll take this to the top" 
[09:05] <ikonia> already have done the first time
[09:05] <bazhang> ie removed from freenode completely
[09:05] <ikonia> pricechild is aware
[09:05] <ikonia> as is......ughh, I can't remember who the other staff memeber was
[09:05] <ikonia> there are 2 of them, they are %101 trolls and kids
[09:06] <ikonia> is there an irc council member available ? I don't know what the deal is with them being allowed to stay in #kubuntu ?
[09:06] <ikonia> in my view they shouldn't be as it's clear their intention / attitude 
[09:08] <ikonia> @btlogin
[09:08] <bazhang> he's in freenode channel now ngl-twysted I presume
[09:09] <bazhang> * [NGL-TwYsTeD] (n=twysted@ip68-8-232-96.sd.sd.cox.net): kevin
[09:09] <Gary> bazhang: thanks, I have that user in pm now
[09:09] <bazhang> was ngl-jabbroa iirc
[09:09] <bazhang> or something along those lines
[09:10] <bazhang> Gary, please see above re death threats to ikonia 
[09:11] <ikonia> bazhang: thats one, there are two 
[09:11] <ikonia> Gary: there are two of them
[09:11] <ikonia> both make threats, spew christian stuff etc etc etc.
[09:11] <ikonia> threaten to ban dodge
[09:11] <ikonia> etc etc etc
[09:11] <ikonia> pricechild and one other staff member is aware
[09:11]  * elkbuntu watches bazhang play with russians
[09:12] <Gary> wow, are they high?
[09:12] <ikonia> yes, super
[09:12] <ikonia> Gary: enjoy
[09:12] <Gary> ikonia: hehe, thanks
[09:12] <ikonia> Gary: you do know who he works for don't you.......
[09:12] <Gary> god?
[09:12] <bazhang> heh
[09:12] <ikonia> Gary: be aware, he'll take it to the top, and there will be consiquences if you don't do his bidding
[09:13] <ikonia> but you're not allowed to know who he works for
[09:13] <Gary> oooow, I'm scared
[09:13] <ikonia> just be aware, there will be consiequnces
[09:13] <Gary> nice spelling
[09:13] <ikonia> fyi: he's 15 and wants access to ubuntu as his class is taking it - not the l33t hacker he makes out to be
[09:13] <ikonia> thanks for the spelling compliment :)
[09:14] <bazhang> elkbuntu, heh. I'm in #kubuntu often enough
[10:01] <Tm_T> hi kids
[10:51] <bazhang> * [qihwuerthqweiuht] (n=ewruqwpi@59.183.58.27): KOOL TROLL KEWL KEWL
[11:59] <jpds> bazhang: amateurs, they'll never last.
[12:01] <Myrtti> SHALALALALALALALALAAAAAA
[12:57] <Pici> beebopbebopbebopbebop
[14:09] <EF_Codd> I wish to contest my kick and ban
[14:12] <EF_Codd> Good day. I wish to contest my kick and ban
[14:12] <Myrtti> feel free to do so
[14:13] <topyli> hello EF_Codd. we see you, no need to repeat
[14:13] <EF_Codd> Oh, I am sorry.
[14:13] <EF_Codd> Well, Myrtti witnessed the whole thing.
[14:13] <EF_Codd> It was cruel and unusual
[14:13] <Pici> Do you feel that you were wrongly banned?
[14:13] <Myrtti> and I saw nothing that I'd done differently
[14:13] <topyli> i was there, looked quite appropriate
[14:14] <EF_Codd> Yes, I feel I am being penalized for not possessing the technical language needed to express my problem
[14:14] <EF_Codd> How can one learn how to state their problem when they don't know the language of the problem domain?
[14:15] <Myrtti> you used and mangled the words in a fashion that made those who might have had some clue what you were talking about fairly sure you actually do know how the words are actually written - and mangled them up purposefully
[14:15] <Myrtti> and confused the rest
[14:16] <EF_Codd> I reject that characterization of my posts. I assure you my ignorance about ubuntu is not feigned.
[14:16] <Myrtti> ie. you were messing up with the channel on purpose
[14:16] <EF_Codd> May I also respectfully note my concern that those I am appealing to were complicit in my kicking. For the record.
[14:18] <EF_Codd> I would request that all bans and IRC modes in place which prevent me from either speaking on, or joining, a channel are lifted. Thank you.
[14:18] <Pici> !guidelines
[14:18] <Myrtti> and while checking the bantracker I note that you are multiple offender
[14:18] <EF_Codd> I find that accusation offensive.
[14:19] <Pici> I don't see any reason to spend more time discussing this ban at this point in time.  
[14:19] <Myrtti> me neither
[14:19] <EF_Codd> Is there any higher authority I can appeal to?
[14:21] <Myrtti> funny how your behaviour hasn't changed at all since October
[14:21] <topyli> EF_Codd: yes. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess
[14:21] <EF_Codd> Thank you. And I thank you for your time, ladies and/or gentlemen.
[14:21] <topyli> np
[14:22] <Myrtti> EF_Codd: was there anything else?
[14:22] <EF_Codd> Myrtti may I ask what is amusing and/or strange that my behaviour hasn't been modified?
[14:22] <EF_Codd> Through what means was this behavioural adjustment to take place?
[14:22] <topyli> usually it happens in the brain
[14:22] <EF_Codd> I apologize if I have breeched protocol by asking this.
[14:23] <Myrtti> topyli: ooh, nice, I have to change my aliases to have that
[14:23] <EF_Codd> spontaneously?
[14:23] <topyli> might take some work
[14:23] <Myrtti> EF_Codd: usually one is expected to gather hints from the behaviour of others surrounding him not to behave in such manner that is frowned upon
[14:24] <EF_Codd> Well, I will have to live with the shame for not having my behaviour modified by the ops of debian-lite. I apologise.
[14:24] <EF_Codd> But thank you. You have indeed taught me a valuable lesson.
[14:24] <Tm_T> debian-lite?
[14:24] <Myrtti> Tm_T: do not feed it
[14:24] <EF_Codd> oh he did. As did you all. 
[14:24] <EF_Codd> Thank you again.
[14:24] <topyli> now if there's no further business, please /part this channel, as we need it clean from chat or idlers
[14:24] <bazhang> jpds, you mean the qihwuertietc?
[14:25] <Tm_T> Myrtti: aah, I see now
[14:25] <EF_Codd> I request a kick. Thank you.
[14:25] <bazhang> EF_Codd, please part now
[14:25] <Myrtti> EF_Codd: feel free to part the channel yourself
[14:25] <EF_Codd> No, I have requested a kick. Thank you.
[14:25] <Myrtti> I have no desire to feed your trolling behaviour
[14:26] <topyli> *sigh*
[14:26] <EF_Codd> You will comply, or you will silence me through modes. Either way, you will obey.
[14:26] <EF_Codd> Thank you.
[14:26] <Myrtti> if you're bored, go reed a book
[14:26] <Myrtti> read, even
[14:26] <EF_Codd> 'reed a book'? Priceless.
[14:26] <EF_Codd> Again I thank you.
[14:26] <EF_Codd> Please do not encourage my trolling ways.
[14:26] <EF_Codd> It is best to either ignore of kick me
[14:26] <EF_Codd> s/of/or
[14:27] <EF_Codd> Excellent. I have successfully manipulated you into neither kicking nor silencing me on the channel.
[14:28] <Pici> Myrtti, topyli: Thanks.  Typing with one hand makes dealing with this sort of thing even more annoinyg.
[14:28] <bazhang> hehe
[14:28] <Tm_T> oh well
[14:28] <topyli> Pici: oh you have a b0rken hand? :(
[14:29] <Pici> topyli: Broken arm, I can't bring my arm up to the desk to use the keyboard
[14:29] <Pici> Its getting better though
[14:30] <topyli> why are titanium bones only availabe as replacements? we should have them out of the box
[14:30] <Myrtti> [16:29] <EF_Codd> Thank you. And I thank you for providing us with yet more  logs of the wonderful ubuntu ops in action.
[14:30] <Pici> Whatever
[14:30] <Myrtti> I knew he'd say something like that
[14:30] <Myrtti> I just love trolls.
[14:30] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I thought we don't have public logs anyway
[14:30] <Myrtti> I'd much rather kick garden gnomes though
[14:31] <Myrtti> Tm_T: since when we haven't had?
[14:31] <Myrtti> ubuntulog is present and all
[14:31] <Tm_T> Myrtti: exactly
[14:31] <Tm_T> Myrtti: I wonder what he gained with his "logs"
[14:31] <Myrtti> they've been used against us before
[14:32] <Myrtti> with no results, though
[14:32] <Myrtti> but used in any case
[14:32] <topyli> i guess he thinks he managed to produce something unique now
[14:32] <Myrtti> I guess there's some dimwits that think that this is some kind of humour 
[14:33] <Tm_T> oh well, nothing new, nothing to care about
[14:33] <Myrtti> yup
[14:34] <Myrtti> blue sky ♥ 
[14:37] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/index.html what would you think about a factoid for this guide? contains a lot of very useful info and is great for new users and others
[14:38] <bazhang> got praise from Matthew Helmke, Ryan Troy and John Southern (second is ubuntugeek iirc)
[14:43] <Slart> can someone take a look at irnodefn in #ubuntu.. smells like a bot.. 
[14:45] <Slart> check the lastlog.. he/she/it repeats questions asked earlier.. with a nice (c) <nick> at the end..
[14:45] <bazhang> * [irnodefn] (n=irnode@c-67-181-74-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net): irnode.org
[14:45] <Myrtti> noted earlier...
[14:46] <Slart> it's not really disruptive.. afaik it's questions that hasn't been answered
[14:48] <stdin> do we class it as a bot? if so then it's against channel rules
[14:48] <Slart> I'm out.. thanks!
[14:49] <Myrtti> [16:48] [freenode] ~~~   #irnode Echelo    H@  0  
[14:49] <Myrtti> n=Echelo@c-67-181-74-90.hsd1.ca.comcast.net [Echelo]
[15:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang Briefly going through that pocket guide.. this makes me GAG..  Wubi..   There’s no real benefit of one method over the other and, when it comes to the installation process, each is practically identical.
[15:36] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: people are afraid of repartitioning
[15:36] <Jack_Sparrow> THey should be more afraid of wubi
[15:36] <Pici> Why?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Personally I think it is the worst idea ap ever included with ubuntu
[15:37] <jussi01> why?
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Have you seen the nuber of people in channel that have destroyed thier systems while using it
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Yea, possibly a test drive at the best case
[15:38] <jussi01> Jack_Sparrow: sames as the number who have destroyed their systems without it...
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> not true
[15:38] <Pici> No.  I've seen some people not be able to get back into their Ubuntu install, but I can't remember anyone who lost Windows as well?
[15:38]  * jussi01 thinks the un-hype about wubi is mostly FUD 
[15:38] <Jack_Sparrow> users get all turned around and or lockup ubuntu and power down
[15:39] <Myrtti> it's very useful if you know how it's supposed to be used and are aware of the restrictions
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> FUD in your opinion, but I will NEVER use or recommend it to anyone
[15:39] <Myrtti> I wouldn't dream of installing a dualboot to my nieces or nephews laptops
[15:39] <Jack_Sparrow> Myrtti If they wont take the time to read and understand the differences it is too dangerous 
[15:39] <Myrtti> wubi I can install
[15:40] <jussi01> Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt. the middle one most important here, in the case of the helpers as well.
[15:40] <Pici> I personally have no use for Wubi, but I see its benefits.  Paritioning is hard for a new user/novice computer person.
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> I personally rank Wubi right alongside automatix
[15:40] <Myrtti> Jack_Sparrow: but the developer of Wubi has The Clue
[15:41] <Myrtti> I discussed with him last summer at LUGRadio Live
[15:41] <Myrtti> Automatix and Ultamatix are spawn of the devil
[15:41] <Jack_Sparrow> They were in here pimping it before it got added into ubuntu..  My opinion has not changed
[15:42] <Pici> Also, my orthopedist just said I can use both hands on the keyboard if I'm comfortable with it. (Yay!)
[15:42] <Jack_Sparrow> Pici Dont overdo it
[15:42] <Pici> Jack_Sparrow: I can't reach over to the mouse yet, won't try that for a bit.
[15:42] <Pici> I know my limits
[15:43] <Jack_Sparrow> I gotta run, the wife just came in wearing her ug boots...
[16:09] <bazhang> apart from the section on Wubi (which I have no prob with) the guide seems quite good imo
[16:12]  * genii stumbles to the coffeepot and makes a fresh batch
[16:19] <ikonia> 16:19 -!- nbuntu [n=spam_rel@pc-91-229.ds.amg.gda.pl] has joined #ubuntu
[16:19] <ikonia> what are the odds
[16:19] <Pici> We'll see
[16:24] <ikonia> seems good as gold
[17:13] <jpds> Guest39261: Can we help you?
[17:14] <jussi01> hehe
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang I am still reading but yes, I like that pocket guide..
[17:47] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow, as for the Wubi concerns, if they do read through it then wubi installs may become less in number as they learn how to use a real install (ie partitioning etc)
[17:47] <bazhang> not that I dislike wubi so much, just nothing to offer in the way of support for (never tried it myself)
[17:48] <bazhang> apart from the !wubi of course
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang I lost my system and three people I know personaly did as well
[17:49] <bazhang> Jack_Sparrow, no wonder you dislike it then
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> It was an early version but still was not cool
[17:50] <bazhang> indeed not
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> I would rather walk 10 people through partitioning every day
[17:50] <bazhang> partitioning is not such a bugbear imo
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> different level of user.. but it isnt a big deal
[17:50] <bazhang> and the tools in 8.10 are very user friendly
[17:51] <bazhang> ie GUI-wise
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> If I had a wish it would be for the installer to create a sep home
[17:51] <Jack_Sparrow> GImme that feature.,. and I mean automaticaly
[17:51] <bazhang> thought there was that option for fresh installs, perhaps that is coming in Jaunty
[17:52] <bazhang> read about in one of the -meeting's iirc
[17:52] <Jack_Sparrow> if you know what you want it is simple.  I just wish it was the default to make the extra partition
[17:52] <bazhang> yep
[17:53] <bazhang> I would do a fresh install for that feature alone; every time I swear this is the time I do it, then forget :)
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow> I am rambling..  sorry  .. but yes, I hope we can get the word out on that guide
[17:53] <bazhang> k
[17:53] <Jack_Sparrow> doing it now is easy
[17:54] <Jack_Sparrow> I just walked a couple of people through it.  That guide was the best we found at that time but if you have your partition already formatted.. it can be so much simpler
[17:55] <bazhang> true
[17:55] <Jack_Sparrow> should we move to PM just to not spam the channel logs
[17:55] <bazhang> heh
[17:55] <bazhang> we could just make a !factoid
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> One sec while I pull up my notes
[17:58] <Jack_Sparrow> bazhang See pm for link
[17:59] <bazhang> got it Jack_Sparrow :)
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> If you strip out what the user already has done and knows it gets much easier to manage
[18:15] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[18:15] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
 bazhang: I thought the silenceisdefeat domain was banned from this channel?
[18:21] <bazhang> I thought so too
[18:22] <bazhang> * [neuthral] (i=neuthral@silenceisdefeat.com): janppa in -ot
[18:28] <bazhang> rubinof in #kubuntu pasting warez links
[18:36] <bazhang> helpdesk is the same as helpdesk|vb from yesterday?
[18:48] <bazhang> helpdesk/helpdesk|vb from yesterday was telling everyone a fresh install (double clean fresh install) or a reboot was the answer
[18:49] <nickrud>  it fixed everything :)
[18:49] <bazhang> haha
[19:15]  * genii feeds bazhang more coffee in a large Kubuntu mug
[19:15] <bazhang> genii, he has me completely confoozled; thanks for the coffee though!
[19:16] <genii> bazhang: Hehe :) Anytime for the coffee
[19:16] <bazhang> :)
[19:16] <genii> bazhang: Unfortunately today I haven't much time for helping in #k 
[19:17] <bazhang> dont know if I am helping him as I cant understand how a kernel patch to a vm on windows would stop his internet connection
[20:18] <Pici> @login
[20:18] <Pici> !dad is <reply> Ubuntu DaD is a website used by MOTUs to help merging Ubuntu packages from Debian unstable. See http://dad.dunnewind.net
[20:21] <mneptok> dad backwards is dad. wow upside-down is mom. mom upside-down is dad's favorite thing.
[20:33] <Seeker`> mneptok: can I just ask, wtf?
[20:35] <nickrud> mneptok, why is it I have to laugh at you so darned much? :)
[20:49] <mneptok> O:)
[20:50] <ikonia> what's happening
[20:53] <jussi01> ikonia: we are all getting ready to mob you :P
[20:53] <ikonia> mob me ?
[20:53] <ikonia> I've only just got home
[20:54] <ikonia> just passing through having an early night to try to get back on top of things
[20:54] <jussi01> anyone up for a game of uno? if so, ##uno
[20:54] <ikonia> really ?
[20:55] <jussi01> really really
[20:55] <ikonia> (not me I'm off to bed in 10 minutes)
[20:55] <ikonia> how do you play online ?
[20:55] <ikonia> within irc I mean
[20:55] <jussi01> yes
[20:55] <jussi01> with a bot...
[20:55] <ikonia> ooh thats cool
[20:56] <ikonia> you've made a bot to play ubo
[20:56] <ikonia> uno
[20:56] <jussi01> apacheloggers bot, but it is just a standard rbot iirc
[20:56] <ikonia> thats cool
[20:57] <jussi01> we are playing, you cna join anytime :)
[20:58] <ikonia> I may pop in tommorow as I have a dull day planned for tommorow
[20:58] <ikonia> need sleep tonight
[21:02] <jussi01> nini ikonia
[21:02] <ikonia> not yet
[21:02] <Pici> goodnight ikonia 
[21:03] <ikonia> ooh.....I get the hint
[21:03] <Pici> :p
[21:03] <mneptok> sweet dreams about MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
[21:04] <jussi01> hahah
[21:04]  * ikonia skulks out the room
[21:04] <ikonia> I'm not going yet, just getting ready
[21:05]  * mneptok slips into his full head latex Bob Barker mask, grabs a tennis racket and hand lotion, and follows ikonia 
[21:05] <ikonia> whoaaaaaaaaa
[21:06] <Seeker`> hi ikonia 
[21:06] <ikonia> hello
[21:07] <Seeker`> how be?
[21:07] <ikonia> better, still not %100 but getting there
[21:08] <jussi01> mneptok: be good...
[21:09] <mneptok> jussi01: that costs extra.
[21:10] <jussi01> mneptok: meh...
[21:13] <jussi01> mneptok: join us for uno!!
[21:40] <mneptok> jussi01: i don't think sabdfl pays me to play Uno from the office ;)
[21:41] <jussi01> hehe
[21:42] <mneptok> ugh. it's snowing *again*
[22:13] <ikonia> OODEADBEEFOO: hi, thanks for joining
[22:13] <OODEADBEEFOO> np!
[22:14] <ikonia> do you want to explain why you think your banned from #ubuntu - when you are in the ubuntu channel 
[22:14] <OODEADBEEFOO> %subinacls!*@*
[22:14] <ikonia> one moment please
[22:15] <OODEADBEEFOO> last night i was trying to explain how to config a ethernet interface to a person who was not able to follow my explanation, so i used <enter> to many time 
[22:15] <mneptok> OODEADBEEFOO: the letter O is not a valid hex symbol. i think you mean 00DEADBEEF00
[22:15] <OODEADBEEFOO> was not paying attention to the chat room did not see tritium posting to stop
[22:15] <mneptok> :P
[22:16] <OODEADBEEFOO> i also do not have sounds on this machine so his efforts to alert me went past with no remorse 
[22:16] <ikonia> OODEADBEEFOO: just one moment please, I won't keep you long
[22:17] <OODEADBEEFOO> np! take your time, i just dont like seeing someone i could have helped slip past, due to banned names
[22:17] <OODEADBEEFOO> ps im oscp and the ban should have been more stringent  :)
[22:17] <OODEADBEEFOO> or at least a 1hr ban
[22:17] <ikonia> ok, I've just looked at the situation, 
[22:18] <ikonia> and as you said, you where banned as you kept hitting enter when you where asked 3 - 4 times to stop
[22:18] <ikonia> you know this now right ?
[22:18] <OODEADBEEFOO> mneptok, ya its erroneous to have 0 in irc :)
[22:18] <OODEADBEEFOO> oh ya, i was just trying to break it up for him, i dont look at the screen while i type
[22:19] <OODEADBEEFOO> thats my bad....
[22:19] <ikonia> tritium: are you around ?
[22:19] <mneptok> OODEADBEEFOO: you might want to start ;)
[22:19] <ikonia> OODEADBEEFOO: just give tritium a moment to respond, 
[22:19] <mneptok> ikonia: AFAIK tritum is @work for the next 2-3 hours
[22:19] <OODEADBEEFOO> ya i have 4 pc's infront of me, running other service! ill try to pay attention more often
[22:19] <ikonia> OODEADBEEFOO: ok, I'm happy to remove the ban as long as you can control the punction this time,
[22:19] <ikonia> OODEADBEEFOO: I appriciate you being %100 honest
[22:19] <OODEADBEEFOO> ya man, i know why i was banned 
[22:20] <OODEADBEEFOO> i am a oper in mintirc
[22:20] <OODEADBEEFOO> also hak5
[22:20] <ikonia> OODEADBEEFOO: FYI: if you have a problem with a ban/channel issue come here, as going into #ubuntu as another use gets you in more trouble for ban dodging
[22:20] <OODEADBEEFOO> lol copy dat!
[22:20] <ikonia> ok, I've removed the ban if you'd like to try it
[22:21] <OODEADBEEFOO> had no idea of this, im usually in offsec / RE and this started popping up due to the HOST ubuntu system and xchat irc install 
[22:21] <OODEADBEEFOO> awesome! TY for the help and info!!
[22:21] <subinacls> good to go!
[22:22] <ikonia> great, if there is no other business here you're welcome to leave this channel and get stuck into #ubuntu
[22:22] <subinacls> ya ill hope on and off from time to time!
[22:23] <ikonia> enjoy, bye
[22:23] <subinacls> appreciate the help, and info in the other chan!
[22:23] <subinacls> have a good night!
[22:23] <ikonia> no problem
[22:27] <ikonia> on it
[22:28] <ikonia> time waster/troll
[23:09] <Guest92595> Hi I was banned for asking a questin about mint
[23:10] <Guest92595> it is based on ubuntu
[23:10] <ikonia> Guest92595: I asked you 3 times to stop and told you where mint support was, you kept asking, I removed you - you came back asking, I asked you again, 2 times, you kept asking, I removed you again, you came back started asking, you then told me to be quiet
[23:10] <Guest92595> all I want to know is how to fix etc/resolv.config in kppp, but was banned by ikonia
[23:10] <ikonia> it's clear you are unable to take support direction
[23:11] <ikonia> yes, I banned you because a.) you are unable to take support direction b.) your attitude towards someone pointing you in the right place was unacceptable
[23:11] <Guest92595> it is ubuntu
[23:11] <ikonia> it's not
[23:11] <ikonia> it's "mint" based on ubuntu
[23:11] <Guest92595> none is on linux mint irc
[23:11] <ikonia> so ?
[23:11] <ikonia> that doesn't mean ignore direction and be rude
[23:11] <ikonia> you made the choice to use mint
[23:11] <Guest92595> so you don't know how to fix my problem?
[23:12] <ikonia> yes, but that's not the point
[23:12] <Guest92595> other ppl might
[23:12] <mneptok> Guest92595: Mint support questions do not belong in Ubuntu channels. period.
[23:12] <ikonia> no - #ubuntu does not support mint
[23:12] <ikonia> I made that clear over 6 times to you
[23:12] <mneptok> Guest92595: is anything about that unclear?
[23:13] <Guest92595> linux used to have good support wherever, any wonder ppl stop using it, when you won't help in a simple question
[23:14] <ikonia> it's clear you don't/won't/can't listen so I suggest we don't take this futher at this time
[23:15] <ikonia> I lost count of how many times I warned him, I kicked him twice and he still didn't get it
[23:16] <mneptok> alcohlic beverages are not recommended for pregnant women.
[23:16] <mneptok> want to know why? get a +o on a big IRC network.
[23:17]  * mneptok heads home
[23:28]  * nickrud wonders why ikonia seems to always get stuck with the jerks
[23:28] <ikonia> magnet
[23:28] <ikonia> so much for an early night
[23:28] <nickrud> saw that while reading back :)
[23:29] <ikonia> staying at my parents tonight, so waiting for my mum to get home
[23:42]  * Mez hates the fact his resolution doesnt seem to be exactly what it was before
[23:42] <nickrud> Mez, buck up, resolution is a function of determination
[23:43] <nickrud> oh. wrong sphere
[23:44] <SportChick> is there a turkish ubuntu channel?
[23:44] <ikonia> #ubuntu-tr ?
[23:44] <ikonia> !tr
[23:44] <Mez> I think the fonts might have changed or something
[23:44] <SportChick> thanks
[23:44] <Mez> my irssi looks weird
[23:45] <Mez> thats what I get for upgrading to jaunty I gueee
[23:46] <nickrud> is it march already?
[23:46] <ikonia> parent's home, at last. Night
[23:48] <Mez> nickrud: nah, I always run dev releases :D
[23:54] <Pricey> Mez: that should never be done to milk.
[23:58] <Mez> Pricey: lol - it's a long running joke with me and my first ever geek friend (he taught me VB!)