| bryce | troubleshooting guide for blank/black screen issues --- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen | 09:32 |
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| tseliot | tjaalton: just FYI nvidia driver 180.27 supports the new X ABI :-) | 12:00 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: wow, that was fast | 12:18 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: now switching between windows is fast and doesn't make sound choppy | 12:18 |
| tseliot | :-) | 12:19 |
| tjaalton | great | 12:22 |
| tjaalton | phoronix failed to notice the support for the new abi | 12:23 |
| tseliot | well, it wasn't in the changelog | 13:10 |
| tjaalton | ok | 13:43 |
| jcristau | tjaalton: you expected him to do a tiny bit of research? :) | 13:43 |
| tjaalton | jcristau: yeah, I have such high hopes | 13:49 |
| tseliot | :-P | 13:54 |
| johanbr | Hmm. The new synaptics driver broke vertical scrolling for me. | 14:29 |
| tjaalton | nice to know | 14:39 |
| tseliot | the synaptics driver is on my todo list. I'll start working on it after I'm done with nvidia | 14:54 |
| johanbr | Okay, found the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/320632 | 14:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 320632 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "tap-to-click and edge-scrolling broken in Jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 14:56 |
| tseliot | johanbr: can you attach the output of this command in the report? xinput list-props name_of_your_synaptic_device | 14:59 |
| tseliot | maybe you're using an AlpsPS device | 15:00 |
| jcristau | i'm using an alps, and edge scrolling is a lot harder to use on 0.99.3 than previously, too.. | 15:00 |
| tseliot | jcristau: I forgot to fix it for ALPS. Can you attach the output of that command to the report, please? | 15:02 |
| jcristau | well. i want to get it fixed upstream eventually, just haven't had time to look into it yet.. | 15:04 |
| johanbr | tseliot: It is an alps device. I think the edge is misdetected. | 15:07 |
| tseliot | ok | 15:07 |
| tseliot | jcristau: I would like to provide upstream with some of my patches | 15:07 |
| johanbr | I managed to get edge scrolling back with xinput, but completely broke normal mouse pointer movement. :) | 15:07 |
| johanbr | Is there an xinput command to reset the properties? | 15:08 |
| jcristau | tseliot: paste.debian.net/27180/ (this is on debian, so unpatched 0.99.3) | 15:09 |
| tseliot | jcristau: ok, thanks | 15:10 |
| johanbr | input properties for my touchpad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111247/ | 15:16 |
| johanbr | Doing 'xinput set-int-prop 6 "Synaptics Edges" 32 40 0 882 0' enables edge scrolling, but completely disables pointer movement. Is this expected? | 15:18 |
| tseliot | johanbr: please add all the information to the bug report | 15:35 |
| johanbr | alright | 15:36 |
| tjaalton | tseliot: the gui mechanism for dontzap meant the xorg.conf editor AIUI.. | 17:17 |
| tjaalton | and the poll in ubuntuforums is not authoritative.. | 17:17 |
| tseliot | tjaalton: yes, I know but it's too late for me to rewrite its UI | 17:18 |
| tseliot | and we need a solution | 17:18 |
| tseliot | i.e. a compromise | 17:18 |
| tjaalton | alt+sysrq+k | 17:18 |
| tseliot | go tell users ;) | 17:18 |
| tjaalton | normal users don't need that, they have the power button | 17:19 |
| tseliot | or pull the plug | 17:19 |
| tjaalton | sigh, kernel compile filled my /home | 18:53 |
| tjaalton | maybe I should reinstall | 18:56 |
| tjaalton | heh, I couldn't even empty my trash, since it tries to touch some files which obviously failed | 19:07 |
| tjaalton | great, the patch from jesse helped.. no more temporary freezes with intel | 20:50 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, were those the same temporary freezes related to the xrandr event with monitors changed all the time, or *another* set of freezes that were happening? | 21:02 |
| tjaalton | superm1: another.. related to vblank | 21:03 |
| superm1 | tjaalton, yippee then | 21:04 |
| tjaalton | the randr-related problems are caused by gnome AIUI | 21:04 |
| tjaalton | and are WIP | 21:04 |
| tjaalton | probably also the reason why my session startup seems to idle for 5-10s before getting up | 21:05 |
| tjaalton | no disk activity during that time | 21:05 |
| maco | does the intel driver in jaunty have KMS yet? | 21:28 |
| tjaalton | no | 21:29 |
| tjaalton | well, the kernel doesn't | 21:30 |
| tjaalton | and won't | 21:30 |
| maco | ok | 21:31 |
| maco | a friend is trying to figure out why i have solid black (with no prompt) tty's with i965 | 21:31 |
| tjaalton | also without usplash? | 21:32 |
| maco | have to test that still | 21:32 |
| maco | lack of working ttys isnt constant for me. its frequent, but occasionally (like right now) ttys do work, so i guess id have to turn off usplash for about 2 weeks to test it | 21:33 |
| tjaalton | sometimes that happens here too | 21:36 |
| bryce | maco, is it just the tty's that are blank, or your X session too? | 21:41 |
| maco | usually just the tty's. sometimes i cant bring X back afte trying to VT switch | 21:42 |
| bryce | ok | 21:53 |
| bryce | I'm not sure how to debug the tty breakage issue, but that's something I've looked at before. I need to understand why that particular kind of bug comes up | 21:54 |
| bryce | I'm not entirely sure whether it is an X bug, or kernel, or what, but it's common enough we ought to have some troubleshooting guidelines for it | 21:54 |
| maco | he said that in cases where it happens while X is locked, it's expected | 21:54 |
| maco | in cases where it happens while X is working perfectly fine...well, he wants me to try git master for a little while and see if VT switching works properly and consistently | 21:55 |
| bryce | maco: ok interesting. who is 'he'? jesse barnes? | 21:57 |
| maco | bgamari | 21:57 |
| maco | he's in #ubuntu | 21:57 |
| bryce | ah ok, I don't know him, but sounds like decent advice | 21:57 |
| maco | we go to school together, and it turns out he works on the i965 drivers | 21:58 |
| bryce | ahh kewl | 21:58 |
| ogra | hmm, i have a /sys/class/input/input0 and input1 device for mouse and kbd but no /dev/input/eventX for either of them ... doesnt hal use sysfs for determining the devices ? (i have no input in X ) | 22:20 |
| ogra | hmm, ok, ignore me, i just found CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV is missing in our arm qemu kernel ... | 22:24 |
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