[09:32] troubleshooting guide for blank/black screen issues --- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/BlankScreen [12:00] tjaalton: just FYI nvidia driver 180.27 supports the new X ABI :-) [12:18] tseliot: wow, that was fast [12:18] tjaalton: now switching between windows is fast and doesn't make sound choppy [12:19] :-) [12:22] great [12:23] phoronix failed to notice the support for the new abi [13:10] well, it wasn't in the changelog [13:43] ok [13:43] tjaalton: you expected him to do a tiny bit of research? :) [13:49] jcristau: yeah, I have such high hopes [13:54] :-P [14:29] Hmm. The new synaptics driver broke vertical scrolling for me. [14:39] nice to know [14:54] the synaptics driver is on my todo list. I'll start working on it after I'm done with nvidia [14:56] Okay, found the bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/320632 [14:56] Launchpad bug 320632 in xserver-xorg-input-synaptics "tap-to-click and edge-scrolling broken in Jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] [14:59] johanbr: can you attach the output of this command in the report? xinput list-props name_of_your_synaptic_device [15:00] maybe you're using an AlpsPS device [15:00] i'm using an alps, and edge scrolling is a lot harder to use on 0.99.3 than previously, too.. [15:02] jcristau: I forgot to fix it for ALPS. Can you attach the output of that command to the report, please? [15:04] well. i want to get it fixed upstream eventually, just haven't had time to look into it yet.. [15:07] tseliot: It is an alps device. I think the edge is misdetected. [15:07] ok [15:07] jcristau: I would like to provide upstream with some of my patches [15:07] I managed to get edge scrolling back with xinput, but completely broke normal mouse pointer movement. :) [15:08] Is there an xinput command to reset the properties? [15:09] tseliot: paste.debian.net/27180/ (this is on debian, so unpatched 0.99.3) [15:10] jcristau: ok, thanks [15:16] input properties for my touchpad: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111247/ [15:18] Doing 'xinput set-int-prop 6 "Synaptics Edges" 32 40 0 882 0' enables edge scrolling, but completely disables pointer movement. Is this expected? [15:35] johanbr: please add all the information to the bug report [15:36] alright [17:17] tseliot: the gui mechanism for dontzap meant the xorg.conf editor AIUI.. [17:17] and the poll in ubuntuforums is not authoritative.. [17:18] tjaalton: yes, I know but it's too late for me to rewrite its UI [17:18] and we need a solution [17:18] i.e. a compromise [17:18] alt+sysrq+k [17:18] go tell users ;) [17:19] normal users don't need that, they have the power button [17:19] or pull the plug [18:53] sigh, kernel compile filled my /home [18:56] maybe I should reinstall [19:07] heh, I couldn't even empty my trash, since it tries to touch some files which obviously failed [20:50] great, the patch from jesse helped.. no more temporary freezes with intel [21:02] tjaalton, were those the same temporary freezes related to the xrandr event with monitors changed all the time, or *another* set of freezes that were happening? [21:03] superm1: another.. related to vblank [21:04] tjaalton, yippee then [21:04] the randr-related problems are caused by gnome AIUI [21:04] and are WIP [21:05] probably also the reason why my session startup seems to idle for 5-10s before getting up [21:05] no disk activity during that time [21:28] does the intel driver in jaunty have KMS yet? [21:29] no [21:30] well, the kernel doesn't [21:30] and won't [21:31] ok [21:31] a friend is trying to figure out why i have solid black (with no prompt) tty's with i965 [21:32] also without usplash? [21:32] have to test that still [21:33] lack of working ttys isnt constant for me. its frequent, but occasionally (like right now) ttys do work, so i guess id have to turn off usplash for about 2 weeks to test it [21:36] sometimes that happens here too [21:41] maco, is it just the tty's that are blank, or your X session too? [21:42] usually just the tty's. sometimes i cant bring X back afte trying to VT switch [21:53] ok [21:54] I'm not sure how to debug the tty breakage issue, but that's something I've looked at before. I need to understand why that particular kind of bug comes up [21:54] I'm not entirely sure whether it is an X bug, or kernel, or what, but it's common enough we ought to have some troubleshooting guidelines for it [21:54] he said that in cases where it happens while X is locked, it's expected [21:55] in cases where it happens while X is working perfectly fine...well, he wants me to try git master for a little while and see if VT switching works properly and consistently [21:57] maco: ok interesting. who is 'he'? jesse barnes? [21:57] bgamari [21:57] he's in #ubuntu [21:57] ah ok, I don't know him, but sounds like decent advice [21:58] we go to school together, and it turns out he works on the i965 drivers [21:58] ahh kewl [22:20] hmm, i have a /sys/class/input/input0 and input1 device for mouse and kbd but no /dev/input/eventX for either of them ... doesnt hal use sysfs for determining the devices ? (i have no input in X ) [22:24] hmm, ok, ignore me, i just found CONFIG_INPUT_EVDEV is missing in our arm qemu kernel ...