[00:13] can anyone explain to me why my font looks strange when I access phpmyadmin on my computer [00:19] strange how? [00:54] it doesnt display it in english [00:54] but it is not a foreign language either [01:01] http://imagebin.org/37024 [01:01] that is a screenshot of what i am talking about [01:02] anyone have a solution [01:03] http://imagebin.org/37025 [01:03] that is a screenshot of my phpmyadmin [01:03] it also has a font problem [01:24] hello [01:24] !hi | Mood [01:24] Mood: Hi! Welcome to #xubuntu! [01:24] is there a way to configure auto startup services in xubuntu? [01:24] under settings manager [01:24] i don't see "settings manager" in the GUI [01:24] autostarted apps [01:25] is your menu set like the default [01:25] oh, sorry about that. i do see "settings manager" [01:25] Applications menu -> settings -> Settings manager -> Autstarted... [01:25] ok [01:25] zoredache gave a perfect way [01:25] is there a way to specify commandline services? [01:26] You may also want to look at Applications Meny -> System -> Services [01:26] Mood: perhaps you should explain what you are trying to do. We might be able to help better [01:26] for instance, i'd like to start a terminal session with an execution of a custom binary within that xterm [01:27] you could run the custom binary directly as an autostarted application [01:27] will it be running within an xterm? [01:27] Mood: when you login? [01:27] or maybe i should ask: is there a way to pipe a binary autostart into an xterm? [01:27] you could do "xterm /path/to/application" [01:27] as an auto app [01:28] oh, just concatenating the binary after xterm should do it? let me try that [01:28] it may [01:28] Mood: on my computer I have a line like this as one of my startup items [01:28] xfce4-terminal --title="Terminal - ssh enterprise" -x /usr/bin/ssh -X -t username@homecomputer screen -rd [01:28] zoredcache: do you know how i could fix the font on my computer [01:28] http://imagebin.org/37024 [01:29] http://imagebin.org/37025 [01:29] basically it starts an xfce4-terminal and runs ssh. If you actually want 'xterm' you'll want to man xterm for the syntax [01:29] jne1991: no idea... it is very odd though [01:29] dang [01:29] ah, the xterm seems to execute the command and then it gets killed :-( [01:29] i was hoping it was an easy issue [01:29] jne1991: I would be tempted to install and try it in another browser [01:29] try what, the phpmyadmin? [01:29] mood: the program may have finished execution [01:30] and exited the terminal [01:30] yeah, try going to the site in ephiphany-webkit instead of firefox [01:30] jne1991: yes that's exactly what happened. any way of keeping the terminal session hanging around? [01:30] ok [01:30] maybe a &? let me try [01:30] nope [01:30] mood: i have no idea how to do that unless you could run a bash command to wait for user input [01:31] Mood: you could actually run bash, and have it use a alternate .bashrc [01:31] just a thought, but doesnt epiphany use gecko for rendering [01:31] ok. i think i need to experiment a bit [01:31] isnt that the same render engine used by firefox? [01:32] i'll let you know what i come up with, if i find a solution [01:32] thanks for the suggestions though [01:32] no problem [01:32] hope it works for you [01:32] ephiphany-webkit uses webkit. Which is what Safari, and Chrome use [01:32] ok [01:32] thanks [01:32] oh, by the way, the autostarted apps: the command line accepts sudo without a password? [01:33] no [01:33] how does one allow the autostarted apps to run w/o a password? [01:33] change the root password to nothing [01:33] sudo su [01:33] i need to run daemons, like ddclient for instance [01:33] Mood: you could adjust your sudoers with a NOPASSWD exceptop for that binary [01:33] passwd [01:33] current pass [01:34] ooh. i don't like the "no password" for my daemons [01:34] I'm updating and it's changing my kernel's linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic. Should I use the package maintainers' version of menu.lst? [01:34] If you are starting daemons, perhaps you should be putting things in your /etc/rc.local [01:35] zoredache, will /etc/rc.local binaries be executed upon reboot? [01:35] yes, with root permissions [01:36] zoredache, it appears that rc.local will be executed everytime a user connects... do you know if that's an accurate statement? [01:37] no, that is not true. rc.local is only ran when the system starts unless you manually change runlevels [01:38] zoredache, awesome. i think that may be the solution... thank you kind sir [01:40] Grant-A: yes, if you want it to be able to use the items it upgraded [01:40] charlie-tca: Thanks :) [01:40] brb [01:42] does anyone here know how to use drupal [01:47] ok my external USB sound works (makes noise). How to I direct my software DVD player to use it? [01:48] what program are you using [01:48] for playing dvds [01:51] I tried VLC, it let me select my USB card as the ALSA device. I don't know waht to set the OSS device too (/dev/?). I tride toems and found no option for it. I tried rythymbox, doesn't seem to play DVDs. Have not tries Mplayer yet. willing to install a player thet will do this [01:51] so you are using linux, right? [01:52] of course, I'm not a psycho [01:52] most mainstream distros should just auto-detect it [01:53] i dont have much software on my xubuntu installation because i just reinstalled [01:53] so i cant check the preferences of different media players [01:53] atm [01:54] the sound card is detected, I just need to direct a player to use it [01:57] well i am downloading the mplayer right now [01:57] but you should be able to configure it under the preferences menu [01:58] but i am unsure because i do not have a system set up like you do [02:03] i think gecko has a problem with font support [02:03] is webkit a good alternative [02:03] and is it cross-platform [02:09] hi [02:10] ok, I found a way to do it. Its sloppy but works. I have to change my defalut sound so everything uses my USB. [02:10] interesting my xubuntu 8.04.2 computers are updating to 2.6.24-23 kernel. [02:10] But I already have 2.6.24-23 on all my machines :) [02:10] It seems that we have "new" 2.6.24-23 to update to :) [02:11] princedugan, and where you change your default sound? [02:11] using xfce4-mixer or.. [02:12] in settings manager? [02:43] hi . [02:44] is there a way of controling cpu frequency, other then installing Gnome applets and cpufreq applet? [02:45] I want to save 100 megs of hdd space with no installing gnome dependences for GNOME, I use Xfce. [02:46] nikolam: command line? :D [03:03] Odd-rationale, ehh, I was hoping something on GUI, like cpufreq monitor applet i am using with xfpanel on other machine. [03:03] It is also interesting thing. [03:03] On machine where I use it to display and setup speed, [03:03] Only CPU-Default cpeed is displayed [03:03] and not overclocked current speed. [03:04] I am wondering how could I make ir read right speen [03:04] speed [03:04] Also, There are overclock/downclock utilities on Windows [03:04] Anything like that on Linux? [03:05] Odd-rationale, you know how to set it and read it in command line? [03:06] Also I am wondering How I lost disk space on notebook after every upgrade? [03:06] I cleared /var/apt/cache with cached debs. [03:06] It keeps using more and more space over time I think. [03:43] howdy [03:43] does anyone know why viewing files on a cd would be denied permission? [03:44] The files are not owned by you and are owner read only [03:45] mmm rods denied to read? [03:45] yes nikolam [03:45] rods is it CD rom or CDRW. [03:45] Does anybody know where I can find the contents of the System menu that's part of the Xfce default menu? [03:45] Is it ISO system on CD or UDF? [03:45] CD rom [03:46] its a game I'm trying to install under WINE [03:46] Usually I just go to setup.exe on the CD [03:46] rods, check permissions in /media dir for your cdrom [03:46] but I can't find it [03:46] how do I do that? [03:46] you can found where it is mounted with df -h [03:47] if usually you can open cd, maybe it is something funny about cd [03:47] its not letting me open the cd [03:47] actually [03:47] could it be mounted at /dev/scd0? [03:48] when I type "cd /media/cdrom0" I get a permission denied prompt [03:48] but I'm showing the disc is mounted [03:48] rods use df -h to see all mounted devices [03:48] use cat /etc/mtab to see all mounted too [03:48] nikolam: try cpufreq-info [03:49] (sorry, i was away...) [03:49] place where stuff is mounted resides in /etc/fstab [03:49] but it should be all default [03:49] Odd-rationale, I installed emifreq-applet . That was the name [03:49] ok. cool [03:50] Odd-rationale, but question was like changing settings for cpu. [03:50] Odd--what am I seeing here when I use the command (I apologize for being a total linux newb...) [03:50] like overclocking and stuff [03:50] and displaying current speed instead of cpu-model one. [03:51] Odd-rationale, if you know how to do those things in command line that would be cool too [03:51] nikolam: cpufreq-set [03:51] Odd-rationale, ok 1x will see it [03:52] Does anybody know where I can find the contents of the System menu that's part of the Xfce default menu? [03:56] MaxHavoc, try to look at Appfinder. Right click on icon and more information and it will say to you what program it is [03:57] MaxHavoc, Start appfinder from Accesories Appfinder [03:57] Ah, sweet! Thanks, that's exactly what I wanted [03:59] MaxHavoc, :) [03:59] Another question if I may, this one more generic Linux, is there any way to launch an application from the terminal and be able to close the terminal but still have the application remain open? For example if I run firefox from the terminal and close the terminal firefox then closes, is there anyway to have that not happen? [04:04] MaxHavoc, Yes But I forgot. It is some sign after command [04:04] & [04:04] or you can run command with ALT+F2 [04:04] I know you can do & to make it run in the BG but that still doesn't prevent it from closing if you close the terminal [04:04] charlie-tca, thanks [04:05] Dude, you are my hero of heroes, I was looking all over for a bloody run prompt! [04:05] np, memory comes and goes, it seems [04:05] Now to remap the shortcut to Windows+R to make it more like my precious Windows XP :) [04:05] MaxHavoc, Maybe you should put bloody Bug request on Launchpad about putting Run on Xfce menu [04:06] I think it should be there, too [04:06] At linux it is Super key. Not Win. :) [04:07] MaxHavoc, Maybe Settings> Settings manager> Keyboard> Shortcuts? [04:07] That part I had figured out, thanks though [04:09] I just did it too for myself :) Supor+p to open pcmanfm :) [04:09] Ok, help a poor Windozer out here...what is the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin [04:10] /usr/bin is vatican /usr/local/bin is local church :)) [04:10] So /usr/local/bin is where'd I'd nail my 95 theses? [04:10] You don`t mess around with neather :) [04:11] Oh pish-posh, the whole point of Linux is to mess around ;p [04:11] MaxHavoc, I don`t think so. Point is that youCAN. YES, You CAN use code and make anything you want [04:12] Yes you can .. :)) [04:12] Ok, but seriously though, why do you need /bin, /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin [04:12] Isn't one enough? [04:13] MaxHavoc, Please post a bug on launchpad.net for putting run button in xfce menu. Explain that you were searching answer for long how to run something [04:13] Is that the official bug tracking site for Xfce? [04:13] Linux is Unix-Like. It is standard to have those [04:13] I know, but sometimes people enforce standards while forgetting why they were initially standardized [04:13] more important and system-related, higher it is [04:13] I think. [04:14] Some programs even resides in /usr/share/local [04:14] Or even /opt for commercial external and older apps [04:14] MaxHavoc, It IS standard :) [04:14] See, I'd think having just one directory for all binaries would make things easier, then you could get rid of the PATH variable [04:14] I think.. [04:15] Same thing could go for all libs and all source files [04:15] That is wky we have Synaptic :) [04:15] Bah, see, the whole reason I'm trying to switch to Linux is to stop all the obfuscating of the system fundamentals [04:15] I know that is logical, see if Linus and allothers share it :) [04:16] aha. Install debian-reference package :) [04:16] Baby steps Nikolam, baby steps :) [04:16] search on help.ubuntu.com [04:16] and use power of ubuntuforums.org [04:17] Yeah, I'm already registered there [04:17] also wikipedia and google are your friends [04:17] I myself am just an user [04:17] I think that bug reports are most important. [04:18] with everything you do, you contribute. [04:20] According to launchpad.net, Xfce does not use launchpad as its bug tracker [04:21] max see under ubuntu [04:26] Ok, I submitted the bug through bugzilla [04:27] MaxHavoc, I think it is xfdesktop4 package [04:27] http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=xfce4-menu-plugin&mode=exactfilename&suite=hardy&arch=any [04:27] who`s bugzilla? xfce`s? [04:28] Yeah [04:28] maybe it would be better with ubuntu under package xfdesktop4 [04:28] Bugzilla is their official bug tracker, it's linked off their website [04:28] Because distributions mostly decide where to put buttons etc [04:29] main xfce is for all distros [04:29] Yeah but I think it's the same team that manages Xubuntu [04:29] MaxHavoc, original package maintainers does not support programs in distribution repositories directly [04:30] If you download code and make xfce from their site then you file bug to them [04:30] if you installed xfce from X/ubuntu you file bug to x/ubuntu [04:31] Hmm, alright, I'll do that too [04:31] if it is fixed in distribution and is interesting for the rest of the world, it is sent upstream to original project [04:31] Anyway, I'm off, thanks for the help [04:31] MaxHavoc, Ok, thank you and come again :) [04:45] saluton [04:53] I have a laptop with a TSST TS-L632D DVD drive. It doesn't read DVDs at all. I tried flashing the firmware but that didn't change anything at all. What else can I do? [04:55] maybe the drive is broken [04:57] that's not good [04:58] how do I tell? [05:00] mmm... [05:00] I dont know [05:00] but I have had the same problem [05:01] and I had thought software problem [05:01] but was a hardware problem [05:02] this particular drive on its own is like $300. I don't know what other DVD drives would fit properly (laptops are so annoying with hardware parts, eh?. [05:03] my laptop driver can't burn a DVD, always have a error [05:04] this won't even read a dvd. [05:04] lsdvd says empty drive [05:07] can I just pop in any random slim IDE DVD drive? [05:08] something like this? http://cgi.ebay.com/NEC-ND-6500A-DVD-RW-R-Dual-Layer-Slim-IDE-Burner-NR_W0QQitemZ190282795010QQcmdZViewItemQQptZPCC_Drives_Storage_Internal?hash=item190282795010&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50 [05:09] that's why I bought a external dvd-drive [05:09] :P [05:09] ah, I see [05:10] I've only had this laptop 18 months and it needs a new keyboard, new DVD drive, and I'd really like a new wifi card as this RealTek chip sucks. [05:10] cellofellow, it was new or used when you bought one? [05:11] new [05:11] cellofellow, HP? [05:11] bought it as Circuit City though [05:11] Gatewy [05:11] my laptop is HP [05:11] cellofellow, whell, return it under guarantee [05:11] http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=8990648&st=lg+dvd-external&type=product&id=1218007087415 [05:11] that's my external dvd [05:11] bestbuy != circuit city [05:11] right now this laptop need a new dvd-drive [05:12] but 1 mount ago, was needing a new HDD, and more memory [05:12] I was told when I bought it that installing an OS on the system, whether Linux or Windows, voided the warranty. I also did not buy an extended warranty. Also the store where I bought it is out of business now. [05:13] so what good do guarentees do me? [05:13] It is not true that installing some OS voids warranty. [05:14] I want a desktop [05:14] T_T [05:14] If store is out of business, ask manufacturer where to get your machine for servicing. [05:14] I have never had a desktop [05:15] I can't upgrade my video card in a laptop [05:15] * cellofellow doesn't need a desktop when he has a laptop + server. [05:15] I only can have a HDD [05:15] * cellofellow doesn't play games much. [05:15] I think it is better to make a desktop from parts. Many parts have longer warranties if bought separately [05:15] * forces likes play cod 4 [05:15] true [05:15] yep [05:16] some manufacturers like ZaReason are nice enough to warranty the parts in the box separately though. [05:16] you can buy your favorite motherboard [05:16] processor [05:17] ram, video card [05:17] Catch22 is that warranties mostly have value is computer is integrated from parts in computer shop that do that things. [05:17] T_T [05:17] ZaReason`s policy sounds very nice to me [05:18] Circuit City -- closed? [05:19] soon [05:19] broken [05:19] bestbuy win! [05:19] fataliy [05:19] ?? why? (I am from europe, i don`t know) [05:20] so, even though it's been since Sept. 08 (not quite 18mo) you think I can get the borked DVD drive replaced at Circuit City or by Gateway? [05:20] why? cause they weren't a profitable company in the first place, economy goes south, CC goes to Antarctica. [05:21] "economy goes south, CC goes to Antarctica." :)) [05:21] cellofellow, I would contact Gateway for instructions on that [05:22] hmmm [05:22] Or CC information on that [05:22] Or I am just too European ? :) [05:22] no idea [05:22] someone have a acer aspire one? [05:23] cellofellow, economy goes south, CC goes to Antarctica. [05:23] lol [05:23] cellofellow, http://investor.circuitcity.com/announcement.cfm [05:23] http://investor.circuitcity.com/common/download/download.cfm?companyid=CC&fileid=266455&filekey=BCE9A761-4F39-43B2-9792-3BDB4417BD3C&filename=Assurant_Release.pdf [05:24] Extended warranties, not warranties. [05:25] cellofellow, I would go to Gateway then. They need to have someone else then. [05:25] ok [05:26] cellofellow, OR you will write angry letter and post it on your web site :) [05:26] like my website gets enough traffic... :) [05:27] cellofellow, :)) [05:27] what's with the double-chinned smiley? [05:27] cellofellow, but micheal moor`s does :) [05:27] lol [05:28] lol 2 [05:28] "i will tell to moor for next film :) [06:05] well, Gateway said I'm on my own [06:06] I am trying to install xubuntu - why is there so many dependencies - like abiword, etc [06:09] the meta package is designed to give an whole desktop system to a user [06:10] if you just want xfce, you might want to just install the 'xfce4' package [06:11] k, thanks [07:14] How do I fix the top panel... It is all messed up, and I don't know how it got that way [07:15] My icons don't exist... [09:32] <|ntegra|> so it works [09:32] <|ntegra|> I want I want [09:33] <|ntegra|> where's the hibernation with "profiles" [09:33] <|ntegra|> ? [09:33] <|ntegra|> saved to the menu.lst? [09:34] <|ntegra|> and the ndis "loader" program with ,like, 400 windows wireless drivers ready-to-go? [09:36] <|ntegra|> and why hasn't someone actually reverse-engineered windows yet and buggered their whole driver scenario for the betterment of the whole linux community???@! === Hellwire_ is now known as Hellwire [13:22] Hi, guys, anybody about? [13:23] Here [13:23] brb though :P [13:23] ok, I am a xubuntu beginner, I downloaded it yesterday... [13:24] it probably an easy problem, but I just cant figure it out... [13:25] I am running xubuntu on a very old PC, it has an ATI 3D rage Pro graphic card, and I cant get a higher resolution than 800*600 [13:26] Which version of Xubuntu are you running? [13:26] I have tried to force it with the xserver useing " sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, but it only askes me about my keyboard and then dissapers [13:27] it is the lastest (stabel) version of Xbuntu and completed updated [13:27] *completely updated [13:28] Hmm... :/ [13:29] 8.10 is the version [13:29] yeah, it seems to be a tricky problem... [13:29] I have been googling but have not had any luck [13:30] !display [13:30] The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [13:30] I think that last link should help you [13:31] OK, I will check it out and report back here, and thanks! [13:43] Ok, this looks like it might work :-) but needs a bit of playing about with... [13:43] first I did this: $ xrandr --newmode 1024x768 --rate 60 [13:44] then this: $ xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1024x768 --rate 60 [13:45] but the resolution did not change... [14:13] Hmm... I just cant seem to be able to figure out how to make a new mode? [14:14] I tried to make one here: "http://www.bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/" [14:15] then it gave me this modeline: $ "1024x768" 60.80 1024 1056 1128 1272 768 768 770 796 [14:15] so I tried: $ xrandr --newmode "1024x768" 60.80 1024 1056 1128 1272 768 768 770 796 [14:18] Man, it sure is awkward to change the resolution on a Linux system... [14:19] Agreed [14:19] I must be doing something wrong I guess, I just cant figure out what :) [14:23] $ xrandr --newmode "1024x768" 60.80 1024 1056 1128 1272 768 768 770 796 [14:23] X Error of failed request: BadName (named color or font does not exist) [14:23] Major opcode of failed request: 152 (RANDR) [14:23] Minor opcode of failed request: 16 () [14:23] Serial number of failed request: 13 [14:23] Current serial number in output stream: 13 [14:23] does that make sense to anybody? [14:24] does anybody see what I did wrong? this being my 2nd day with Linux, I am clueless :) [14:26] I've used Xubuntu for far longer but have no idea how to deal with it. Might be a bug... [14:28] I guess it might be a driver problem? maybe the driver does just not support a higher resolution for the graphic card? [14:29] Can't imagine [14:31] I check the AMD / ATI website, to see if the offer a proprietary driver for the "ATI 3D RAGE PRO" thinking that driver might pick up higher resolutions than 800*600 but the dont seem to make drivers for such an old card... [14:32] dan_freedom, have you checked Applications->System->Hardware Drivers? [14:32] I know the card support higher resolutions on a windows system, so logically that should also be possible with Xubuntu... wait I'll have a look [14:34] ohh, I think I tried that yesterday when I had Ubuntu installed... No Luck same result: it says No Proprietary Drivers in use on this system... [14:35] I also tried EnvyNG yesterday... or something like that :) [14:37] Man, I would love to figure this out, Xubuntu is great on this PC, because its such a LOW end system, with Xubuntu, its not running like a slug anymore :) [14:37] do you have an ATI card? [14:38] yes, its an ATI 3D RAGE PRO, a rather old card... with no more official support at the ATI/AMD website [14:42] yesterday under "Add/Remove Applications" I found a "ATI binary Xorg driver" [14:42] hello [14:42] but it seems more geared towards the newer ATI cards... [14:42] I tried it yesterday but it would not load... [14:43] kept going back to low-graphics-mode or something named like that :) [14:43] Hi Ben [14:43] for some reason after system update to: Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23-386 the xfce4-mixer stopped working. When choosing at boot time: Ubuntu 8.04.2, kernel 2.6.24-23-generic the mixer works fine? what's going on? [14:48] HeHe, no Idea Ben, I just started with Linux yesterday! [14:49] dan_freedom: You need to Synaptic Package Manager and install the 'xserver-xorg-video-r128' driver, I believe. That should be for older Rage cards [14:50] You also need the 'xserver-xorg-video-ati' driver with it. [14:50] OK, thanks Charlie, I'll start looking for that now :) [14:50] I don't believe you can do it through add/remove though [14:51] :( ohh, HeHe, I just learned that yesterday the nice add/remove [14:52] Yeah, it is great for normal applications, but not so good for deeper issues. [14:54] what's the difference between kernel 2.6.24-23-generic and kernel 2.6.24-23-386? because after the update (8.04.2) the alsamixer doesn't work in 386 but works in generic? [14:56] xserver-xorg-video-r128, OK, I found that one and marked it for re-installation [14:57] xserver-xorg-video-ati" OK, and that one is also marked... [14:58] OK, I will cross my fingers and hit Apply and hope for the best :) [14:58] Those were already installed? [14:58] emm not sure... I do I tell that? [14:59] They had a green box [14:59] yeah, they had a green box [14:59] In synaptic package manager, green box on the left is your installed applications. Clear box is uninstalled. [15:00] there is a lot of them installed, I ran the update earlier and lots of new things came in :) [15:01] maybe I need to activate them or something? [15:03] no, but if i recall, you should make sure no other ati 'xorg-driver-*' or 'xserver-xorg-*' drivers are green. If they are, right click and click remove [15:03] Other than that, I am out of answers. [15:03] OK, there is a lot of them there... I noticed a few of them came in with the update today [15:04]