[06:39] <dashua> http://picpaste.com/pics/Screenshot-1_2.1233297545.png
[06:39] <dashua> Still hacking, but this looks pretty damn nice.
[06:40] <dashua> I need some help from kido if he is ever about.
[07:24] <tretle> what is the name of the icon for websites in the navbars of web browsers again
[07:35] <savvas> tretle: favico ?
[07:36] <savvas> <link rel="shortcut icon" href="/favicon.ico">
[15:21] <dashua> Does anyone how to readable text on the menubar for Dust?  I'm trying some different options and have most issues worked out.
[15:22] <dashua> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-The_Widget_Factory.png
[15:23] <_MMA_> dashua: For studio, to get light text there I do:
[15:23] <_MMA_> style "murrine-menubar"
[15:23] <_MMA_> {
[15:23] <_MMA_> 	bg[NORMAL]= shade (0.75, @bg_color)
[15:23] <_MMA_> }
[15:24] <_MMA_> So its a shade of bg  normal.
[15:24] <dashua> _MMA_: Ok thx, let me try that.
[15:26] <_MMA_> dashua: You could reference anything there though. You could shade your text color one way or another.
[15:27] <dashua> This is more difficult than I thought with hybrid themes.
[15:51] <rsc-> are you modifying Dust?
[15:51] <rsc-> shouldn't Dust have white-on-dark menus by default?
[15:52] <_MMA_> "I'm trying some different options" :)
[16:38] <kwwii> I was running Dust on my laptop this week at the london office...several people asked me about it - it is quite popular it seems :)
[16:42] <_MMA_> kwwii: Too bad they aren't the people makin' the decisions. (I'm assuming) :P
[16:54] <kwwii> _MMA_: actually, they are ;)
[16:54] <kwwii> but we aren't making any major changes for JAunty
[16:54] <kwwii> the big plans are for +1, as the team is new and all
[16:55] <_MMA_> I see.
[16:59] <andreasn> kwwii, are you going to be at the London office sometime during February?
[17:00] <andreasn> I'm planning on visiting, but haven't decided any dates yet
[17:01] <kwwii> andreasn: I am in the london office every second week
[17:01] <kwwii> andreasn: so I will be back in london the week after next
[17:02] <andreasn> hm, what date is that?
[17:02] <kwwii> I returned today, leave for berlin tomorrow, staying a full week, and then leave for london sometime around the 9th
[17:03] <kwwii> I'll also be in london on the week of the 23rd
[17:03] <andreasn> and staying there till 13th or so?
[17:03] <kwwii> andreasn: yepp
[17:03] <kwwii> andreasn: I usually only stay 3-4 days
[17:03] <kwwii> which ones are up to me though
[17:03] <andreasn> a bit close to Fosdem, but maybe it could work
[17:04] <kwwii> yeah, I am skipping Fosdem (again) because of this
[17:04] <andreasn> if not, I'll look into the 23ish
[17:04] <kwwii> andreasn: cool, let me know when you are in town! I'll take you up to the office, it has quite a spectacular view of london
[17:04] <andreasn> sweet!
[17:05] <andreasn> thanks in advance!
[17:05] <andreasn> did the power manager icon issue sort itself out btw?
[17:05] <kwwii> andreasn: it looks like we are going to patch gpm to use different percentages *and* fix the human icons
[17:06] <kwwii> currently it seems to change at 90,70,50,30, and 20
[17:07] <andreasn> I'm currently redoing the smaller sizes for upstream (to be easier to read)
[17:07] <andreasn> isn't it 020, 040, 060, 080 and 100?
[17:07] <kwwii> erm, make that 90,70,50,30,10
[17:07] <kwwii> those are the names of the icons...but I sat and watched at which percentages they change
[17:08] <kwwii> I was thinking of changing it to 80,60,40,30,20
[17:08] <kwwii> naturally, there is 100 as well :p
[17:08] <kwwii> and a pop-up that appears when it gets close to 10 it seems
[17:08] <kwwii> althought that pop-up might be time based
[17:08] <kwwii> ideally, it would all be time based
[17:09] <andreasn> http://svn.gnome.org/viewvc/gnome-power-manager/trunk/data/icons/16x16/status/
[17:10] <andreasn> hm, I wonder if upstream and human have different levels all together
[17:10] <kwwii> it seems the icons are named the same...and I don't think we have patched it
[17:11] <kwwii> but they might be different
[17:11] <kwwii> the biggest problem was the human icons, which showed orange for 40, red for 20 and simply grey at 0
[17:11] <andreasn> crap, where in /usr/share/icons/human are the gpm icons, now again?
[17:12] <kwwii> 40 is shown between 50-30, 20 between 30-10 and 0 from 10-0
[17:13] <kwwii> andreasn: 22x22/apps
[17:13] <kwwii> andreasn: there is a lot of interest from canonical to work on this with upstream if possible though (they keep asking me)
[17:14] <andreasn> ah, yes, the names are the same
[17:14] <kwwii> andreasn: another issue they want to work on is the network manager icons
[17:14] <andreasn> oh, cool
[17:14] <kwwii> apparently Dell was unhappy with the current ones
[17:14] <andreasn> for nm or gpm?
[17:15] <kwwii> although, again, the human icons are different from the gnome versions
[17:15] <kwwii> for nm
[17:15] <kwwii> they've had quite a few customers complaining that they cannot find the network icon (or how to configure the network)
[17:15] <kwwii> I think that the fucntionality of the nm-applet needs to be changed as well though
[17:16] <andreasn> yeah, probably
[17:17] <andreasn> anyway, better fix dinner now, need to go over to a friend for his birthday party in a hour or two
[17:17] <andreasn> and I'll let you know when I've booked the flight tickets and stuff
[17:17] <andreasn> take care, later!
[17:37]  * kwwii is off to dinner, packing for berlin, etc
[19:39] <savvas> do you know a free alternative to calibri font?
[19:41] <_MMA_> savvas: "free" in what sense?
[19:43] <savvas> _MMA_: free to redistribute in pdfs etc
[19:44] <savvas> as far as I've read, calibri is licensed only to windows users
[19:44] <savvas> :P
[19:45] <_MMA_> savvas: I'm not finding much of anything. If you convert the font to vector will that work for you?
[19:45] <savvas> I am allowed to do that?
[19:45] <savvas> if so, that'd be great :P
[19:45]  * _MMA_ shrugs.
[19:45] <_MMA_> I know in Inkscale I convert the fonts to vector then output to PDF.
[19:46] <thorwil> savvas: in the US, there's no copyright on letter shapes
[19:46] <_MMA_> You can't edit later but it still scales well.
[19:46] <thorwil> savvas: but there could be in other jurisdictions
[19:46] <_MMA_> *Inkscape
[19:46] <savvas> hmm
[19:46] <thorwil> savvas: in short, it's not clear at all and if in doubt, don't
[19:47] <savvas> you might be right
[19:47] <savvas> I'll just use Dejavu and MgOpen fonts :P
[19:49] <thorwil> savvas: you could also become your own type designer. in only a few years, you might come up with something that can almost, but not really, be compared with calibri
[19:53] <dashua> _MMA_: Would you mind testing a theme for me or anyone who prefers darker themes?
[19:54] <_MMA_> dashua: Can't atm. I got alot going on with Studio testing and the family.
[19:55] <dashua> Ah ok, np
[19:57] <dashua> Would you mind if I send it to the ml for some feedback?
[19:57] <thorwil> dashua: i don't think anyone would mind
[19:58] <thorwil> strange that you ask, actually ;)
[19:58] <dashua> Ok great :)
[19:58] <dashua> I don't want to bog the ml down.
[20:17] <dashua> Your mail to 'ubuntu-art' Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval.
[20:17] <thorwil> dashua: you are subscribed to the list?
[20:18] <dashua> Yes
[20:18] <dashua> I've never seen that before.
[20:18] <thorwil> so that must be the start of moderation/whitelisting
[20:18] <dashua> Yeah
[20:18] <thorwil> dashua: or did you attach something?
[20:18] <_MMA_> kwwii? ^^^
[20:18] <dashua> I attached the theme and a few screenshots
[20:19] <dashua> Maybe they were too large.
[20:20] <_MMA_> dashua: Which address?
[20:20] <dashua> Should I cancel and change the screenshots to thumbs?
[20:20] <_MMA_> I personally only use links.
[20:20] <dashua> ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com
[20:21] <_MMA_> No. Yours
[20:22] <dashua> jws141@yahoo.com
[20:22] <SiDi> hi
[20:24] <_MMA_> dashua: Ok. I put it through.
[20:24] <dashua> Ah thx
[20:24] <_MMA_> dashua: But how big was it? 3MB? I would host pics somewhere else from now on.
[20:25] <dashua> Yeah, I'll throw them on Flickr from now on
[20:29] <dashua> brb, new kernel
[20:30] <kwwii> _MMA_: erm, they told me they would wait until I discussed this with them
[20:30] <kwwii> let me ask
[20:31] <kwwii> hehe, no..it is the size of the attachments :p
[20:31] <kwwii> _MMA_: you can go to the interface and let that mail through
[20:31] <kwwii> erm, I should have read all the way back :p
[20:31] <kwwii> duh
[20:36] <_MMA_> :P
[20:44] <_MMA_> dashua: The list has a limit of 1000 KB. So watch the attachment sizes.
[20:44] <dashua> _MMA_: Alright, np.
[21:11] <darkmatter> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3BNb4_Z4fY <-- epic
[23:59] <tretle> hi, could someone point me in the right direction to adding speech bubbles to blog posts similar to how planet gnome does it?