| twb | cjwatson: so I just tried a netinst of jaunty, and it now gives me a choice between "Enter information manually" and "GB" when picking a mirror (instead of the former and a list of hostnames). | 08:13 |
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| twb | Assuming "GB" means "Great Britain", that's a bit confusing as I have preseeded my timezone and locale as Australian, and my keyboard as US. | 08:14 |
| twb | I'm assuming this is just because the change is still experimental and you haven't added the other mirrors yet, but I mention it in case nobody else has | 08:15 |
| lool | cjwatson: Hey, evdev isn't built in armel/versatile currently; will be fixed by the config cleanup amitk is doing, but should we push a kernel just for this change before A4? it's needed for xorg input says ogra | 10:20 |
| cjwatson | fine by me, sounds reasonable to unblock graphical testing | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | though I'd prefer it if it were modular and went in input-modules rather than being built-in | 10:21 |
| cjwatson | actually, ignore that last, I see it's built-in on i86 | 10:22 |
| cjwatson | i386 | 10:22 |
| lool | Ok; will ask to schedule that | 10:26 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: cjwatson * r444 ubuntu/ (134 files in 60 dirs): merge from Debian 20081208 | 11:12 |
| ubottu | Error: Could not parse data returned by Debian: HTTP Error 404: No such bug (http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=20081208;mbox=yes) | 11:12 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: cjwatson * r445 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog en/appendix/preseed.xml): | 11:19 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: Replace documentation on preseeding user-setup's encrypted private | 11:19 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: directory facility with documentation on preseeding its new home | 11:19 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: directory encryption facility. | 11:19 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: alt installer is trying to shut down. it is looping doing a dhcp requests every second, and erroring: Jan 30 12:50:16 dhclient: dhclient.c(2138): null pointer | 12:57 |
| CarlFK | 12:57 | |
| CarlFK | http://dev.personnelware.com/carl/temp/Jan30/c/dell800/log/syslog 7mb | 12:57 |
| CarlFK | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/323158 | 13:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323158 in ubuntu "alt installer looping, dhcp request every second" [Undecided,New] | 13:10 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: if you file bugs against debian-installer when something goes wrong with the alternate installer, rather than leaving the package field empty, then I'll see them in e-mail and you won't have to poke me on IRC | 13:23 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: please attach logs to the bug rather than putting them in a temporary directory somewhere where they might get deleted later | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | ah, you did | 13:24 |
| CarlFK | im learning :) | 13:24 |
| cjwatson | I can't always drop everything every time somebody asks me something on IRC :) | 13:25 |
| CarlFK | now if I can remember "debian-installer" | 13:25 |
| CarlFK | the ping is mainly to see if you want anything before I reboot the box. which I have kinda taken care of by the 'everything.tar' upload | 13:28 |
| cjwatson | no, thanks | 13:30 |
| cjwatson | reassigned to dhcp3 - I know nothing about the insides of dhclient myself | 13:30 |
| CarlFK | your debian-installer request is now in my pda's faq entry. which I often forget what I have put in there.... | 13:31 |
| cjwatson | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+filebug if you want a bookmarkable link | 13:43 |
| CarlFK | good idea. | 14:09 |
| CIA-3 | console-setup: cjwatson * r90 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog config.proto): | 18:55 |
| CIA-3 | console-setup: * Backport from trunk: | 18:55 |
| CIA-3 | console-setup: - Sort the null variant to the top of the choices list rather than to the | 18:55 |
| CIA-3 | console-setup: bottom. | 18:55 |
| redmage123 | Hello all,. | 20:21 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: cjwatson * r123 ubuntu/ (choose_partition/partition_tree/do_option debian/changelog): | 20:26 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: Fix disabling of backup while displaying device/partition locked errors | 20:26 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: to avoid clobbering the align capability. | 20:26 |
| redmage123 | Can anyone tell me if there's a way to debug the client installer program when doing a network installation? | 20:53 |
| CarlFK | redmage123: "yes" :) | 20:54 |
| CarlFK | what level of debug? | 20:54 |
| CarlFK | gdb debug? | 20:54 |
| redmage123 | Well, here's my issue. I've setup a PXEboot/preseed network installation, but the installation bombs out when the client tries to access files in the mirror, which is also on the same server as the pxelinux config. I can't figure out why it's bombing. Is there an option that can be set in either the pxelinux.cfg/default or the preseed.cfg that will actually allow me to see what's really happening? | 20:55 |
| redmage123 | More specifically, I want to see what the client is actually trying to do as I don't really trust the rather generic error message I get. | 20:57 |
| CarlFK | did you hit alt-f4? | 20:58 |
| CarlFK | what are you running on the server to serve the .deb's? (guessing apache) | 21:00 |
| CarlFK | whatever it is, it probably has log files where you can see what the request is that is erroring. | 21:01 |
| redmage123 | CarlFK: The problem isn''t with the web server (I've also tried using FTP). I actually logged the network traffic with tcpdump. | 21:05 |
| redmage123 | Basically, the client retrieves /ubuntu/dists/hardy/Release and /ubuntu/dists/hardy/main/i386-binary/Release but then bombs out saying that it can't download some files it needs from the mirror. | 21:06 |
| redmage123 | The problem is that the tcpdump doesn't show it trying to retrieve anything else, so I'm at a loss as to how to proceed in debugging this. | 21:07 |
| redmage123 | Will typing alt-F4 on the client get me a console? | 21:11 |
| CarlFK | console is alt-f2 and 3 | 21:11 |
| CarlFK | did you hit alt-f4? "no" hit it. :) | 21:11 |
| CarlFK | have you got it working with a normal archive.ubuntu.com mirror? | 21:12 |
| redmage123 | CarlFK, I haven't tried with a normal archive ubuntu mirror yet. Basically I had an extremely simple setup. One laptop running Intrepid as the server and one laptop client doing a pxeboot. Connected to each other by a crossover patch cable. | 21:13 |
| redmage123 | I tried setting up both a web server (Apache 2.2) and anonymous ftp. The client failed at the exact same spot. | 21:14 |
| CarlFK | what are you using to populate the mirror? | 21:14 |
| redmage123 | I downloaded the hardy heron iso and did a loopback mount. | 21:15 |
| CarlFK | and you might want to skip that step and install apt-proxy | 21:15 |
| redmage123 | I've also tried with a download of intrepid ibex, same problem. | 21:16 |
| redmage123 | So, I just haven't found the common thread yet. | 21:16 |
| CarlFK | where are you getting the kernel/initrd files from? | 21:16 |
| redmage123 | netboot.tar.gz, If I recall. (I'm at home, not at work). | 21:16 |
| CarlFK | so not from the .iso? | 21:16 |
| redmage123 | I downloaded both the HH and the II netboot.tar.gz off of the net. | 21:17 |
| redmage123 | Could that be a problem? Some sort of file mismatch? | 21:17 |
| CarlFK | yep | 21:17 |
| redmage123 | Well, I made sure that the HH netboot was used with the HH dist. and vice versa with II. | 21:17 |
| CarlFK | it's been about a year since I did it tis way, but look on the iso | 21:17 |
| redmage123 | CarlFK. I'll do that. Thanks. | 21:18 |
| CarlFK | now I just wget linux/initrd and run apt-proxy | 21:18 |
| redmage123 | the place I'm working is using proxy servers that block apt-get. | 21:18 |
| redmage123 | that's why I was setting up a local mirror. | 21:18 |
| CarlFK | oh great | 21:18 |
| redmage123 | No kidding. A serious pain in the butt. | 21:19 |
| CarlFK | append initrd=ubuntu/jaunty/initrd.gz root=/dev/rd/0 rw locale=en_US console-setup/layoutcode=us netcfg/wireless_wep= netcfg/get_hostname= DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 url=http://shaz/ubuntu/jaunty/preseed.cfg tasksel:tasksel/first="ubuntu-standard, ubuntu-desktop" -- | 21:19 |
| CarlFK | DEBCONF_DEBUG=5 may help you | 21:19 |
| redmage123 | CarlFK: Do you have a fully qualified domainname for the shaz host? | 21:20 |
| CarlFK | nope - it's a local box | 21:20 |
| redmage123 | How do I connect to it then? | 21:20 |
| redmage123 | oh. Sorry. I just read the posting more fully... | 21:21 |
| CarlFK | um, you don't :) | 21:21 |
| redmage123 | I thought you were sending me a link to a preseed.cfg file. | 21:21 |
| CarlFK | you want that too? | 21:21 |
| redmage123 | I think I'm okay. I just didn't know about the DE | 21:22 |
| redmage123 | BCONF_DEBUG flag. | 21:22 |
| redmage123 | thanks for the tip. | 21:22 |
| CarlFK | sure | 21:22 |
| CarlFK | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/debian-installer/+bug/323205 logs and stuff. see README (117.1 KiB, application/x-tar) | 21:22 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323205 in debian-installer "alt inst: no possible configurations for this FAT type" [Undecided,New] | 21:22 |
| CarlFK | you might want to see what's in that .tgz | 21:23 |
| redmage123 | Funny. Being the first time I've done this, I expected serious difficulties setting up my pxe boot config but that went fairly smoothly. | 21:23 |
| redmage123 | The stuff i thought would be easy, the mirror downloads, turns out to be what's causing me the most difficulty. | 21:23 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: for the record that tasksel/first isn't strictly correct - ubuntu-standard is installed by default, and in any case the task name is just standard; tasksel:tasksel/first=ubuntu-desktop would be sufficient, or just tasks=ubuntu-desktop | 21:27 |
| cjwatson | redmage123: what exactly was the error, word for word? | 21:27 |
| cjwatson | oh, you're not at work now. would probably need that | 21:28 |
| cjwatson | is it by any chance: | 21:28 |
| cjwatson | _Description: Bad archive mirror | 21:29 |
| cjwatson | The specified Ubuntu archive mirror is either not available, or does not | 21:29 |
| cjwatson | have a valid Release file on it. Please try a different mirror. | 21:29 |
| redmage123 | cjwatson: Unfortunately, I'm not at work, so I can't give you an exact error. It was something like the installer couldn't download a file from the mirror. | 21:30 |
| redmage123 | But I think that the error is misleading, | 21:30 |
| redmage123 | I'm going try and insert the DEBCONF_DEBUG flag into the default file on Monday and see if I can also get a console to tell me what's happening. | 21:31 |
| redmage123 | It's 10:30 p.m. where I am, so work is over for the day. :-) | 21:31 |
| cjwatson | if you can get the exact error message, or better the debug log, then we can very likely help you out | 21:32 |
| redmage123 | Thanks cjwatson. I really appreciate that. This is why I only work with technologies like GNU/Linux, etc. | 21:33 |
| redmage123 | Awesome technical support. :-) | 21:33 |
| CarlFK | cjwatson: I always wondered about that | 21:34 |
| cjwatson | well, technical support for things that might be bugs => fewer bugs ;-) | 21:35 |
| redmage123 | The company who's offices I'm using (I don't work for them, I'm just using their facilities) is a Microsoft Certified Reseller so I always feel like I'm in the enemy's stronghold. :-) | 21:36 |
| CarlFK | huh... example-preseed.txt now has: tasksel tasksel/first multiselect standard, ubuntu-desktop | 21:36 |
| cjwatson | redmage123: I'll be on your timezone next week (normally an hour west), but at a hackathon for the duration so may take a while to respond | 21:36 |
| redmage123 | thanks cjwatson. If i haven't solved the problem, i'll definitely be back on on Monday. | 21:37 |
| redmage123 | See you all later. | 21:37 |
| cjwatson | CarlFK: heh, so it does. it's not *wrong* as such and the example of how to specify multiple tasks is useful | 21:37 |
| CarlFK | that was one of the things I didn't think worth bugging you about :) | 21:38 |
| CIA-3 | partman-base: cjwatson * r124 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 128ubuntu5 | 21:38 |
| CarlFK | what does ubuntu-server use? | 21:38 |
| cjwatson | standard by default but presents the task menu | 21:39 |
| cjwatson | committing a doc improvement now | 21:39 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: cjwatson * r446 ubuntu/ (debian/changelog en/appendix/preseed.xml): | 21:40 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: Improve examples of tasksel/first preseeding to avoid mentioning | 21:40 |
| CIA-3 | installation-guide: standard, which is installed by default. | 21:40 |
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