[00:00] <carpii> ok, well thats where its kept
[00:00] <e-rod> ( sorry I don't speak english )
[00:00] <seth> ikonia: no change on the relogging for either user. Anything else I can check? I turned nscd off so I won't be looking at cached ldap info
[00:00] <Slart> gbear142751: perhaps dpkg might be able to do the uninstall
[00:00] <carpii> if you mean the config file which tells X how to use your video card and monitors etc
[00:00] <e-rod> is there another file ?
[00:00] <e-rod> yeah
[00:00] <Shock> Slart: was kinda messy
[00:00] <Shock> gbear142751: was I unclear in some way?:)
[00:01] <gbear142751> Shock: perhaps... did you mention you have tried the adobe v10 for 64bit linux already?
[00:01] <carpii> e-rod, not that I know of. what problem are you having ?
[00:01] <e-rod> it's complicated since I'm a newbie
[00:01] <Shock> gbear142751: no, if it's beta i'm not installing it on my production machine
[00:01] <e-rod> it works fine
[00:02] <e-rod> but some effecs don't work well
[00:02] <e-rod> some compiz effects
[00:02] <carpii> you have single monitor or dual?
[00:02] <gbear142751> Shock: I'm sorry, you said you were a developer... didn't realize it was a production machine
[00:02] <Slart> gbear142751: new command to try  "dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic"
[00:02] <e-rod> yeah  a single
[00:02] <edju> somewhere in the partimage docs, it says that the partition to restore must have the same size as the saved partition.  does that refer to the data to be restored, or the actual partition that was saved?
[00:02] <carpii> hm ok, maybe you need to try a different driver. I dont use compiz since it doesnt work well on dual monitors
[00:02] <Shock> gbear142751: AFAIK there's no stable 64bit java plugin
[00:03] <danbhfive> gbear142751: that will remove other packages, like linux-generic I think.    if you add --force-depends, it will only remove that package
[00:03] <i-pink> somebody can help me with ssh
[00:03] <e-rod> I just thought there were a second file
[00:03] <erUSUL> edju: the partition afaics that's how i read it
[00:03] <DIFH-ice1oot> !ask | i-pink
[00:03] <sidewalk> im having problems draging stuff when double tapping my touchpad
[00:03] <e-rod> well.. I'm doing some updates... maybe it will fix it
[00:03] <i-pink> ha ok..
[00:03] <gbear142751> Shock: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjkyOQ
[00:04] <e-rod> thanks! :)
[00:04] <sidewalk> for example scrollbars and such are problematic moving when double tapping, anyone have any ideas how i solve this? i have a dell laptop
[00:04] <gbear142751> Shock: or more directly : https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html
[00:05] <i-pink> i have 2 computers, and i want to make luncher on the first computer to open program on the other computer
[00:05] <gbear142751> danbhfive: Already ran it but it didn't do it completely... slark only a few lines of errors: rmdir: failed to remove `/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic': Directory not empty
[00:05] <gbear142751> dpkg - warning: while removing linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic, directory `/lib/modules/2.6.27-7-generic' not empty so not removed.
[00:05] <yorch> Hi, I've install ubuntu 8.10 64bits on a pc with 4GB ram, but I only get reconized 3.2GB.. bios can see all 4GB.. any ideas please?
[00:05] <Shock> gbear142751: it's Early Access; it's not released as stable
[00:06] <i-pink> i have 2 computers, and i want to make luncher on the first computer to open program on the other computer
[00:06] <erUSUL> yorch: are you sure it 64 bit ubuntu ??
[00:06] <i-pink> is 32 bit
[00:06] <erUSUL> yorch: what does "uname -m" say ??
[00:06] <yorch> yes.. Linux lennon 2.6.27-9-generic #1 SMP Thu Nov 20 22:15:32 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[00:06] <gbear142751> Shock: yup... just was giving a heads up in case you didn't know... so hopefully though you'll be able to get stable versions soon
[00:06] <Slart> gbear142751: my last try  "dpkg --purge --force-all linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic"
[00:06] <erUSUL> yorch: /me puzzled
[00:07] <Shock> gbear142751: how about the windows only binary codecs? do they work on 64bit?
[00:07] <gbear142751> slart... hmm: gbear14275@Mustache:~$ dpkg --purge --force-all linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[00:07] <gbear142751> dpkg: operation requires read/write access to dpkg status area
[00:07] <gbear142751> gbear14275@Mustache:~$ sudo dpkg --purge --force-all linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic
[00:07] <gbear142751> dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove linux-image-2.6.27-7-generic which isn't installed.
[00:07] <FloodBot1> gbear142751: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:08] <gbear142751> crap... sorry should have pastebinned that
[00:08] <Slart> gbear142751: put a sudo in front of that
[00:08] <gbear142751> slart... i did on the second one
[00:08] <yorch> on dmesg I've found this: BIOS-e820: 00000000fec00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
[00:08] <Shock> yorch: opensuse supports more than 4GB on 32bit
[00:08] <rockenrola> i-pink: what is your problem?
[00:08] <Slart> gbear142751: ah.. so it has removed the package now.. try "sudo apt-get install -f" again
[00:08] <i-pink> i have 2 computers, and i want to make luncher on the first computer to open program on the other computer
[00:08] <erUSUL> yorch: take alook at this links http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=805116
[00:09] <yorch> the problem is that im in love of ubuntu for a couple years :D
[00:09] <rockenrola> i-pink: did you installed s ssh server?
[00:09] <thief`> is there someone i could pm to ask about how to install vmware? i have some easy queries - i'm stuck.
[00:09] <i-pink> rockenrola: yes
[00:09] <Shock> yorch: yeah...get over it, nothing lasts forever :)
[00:09] <gbear142751> Shock: that I'm not sure of... this is my home cpu so I'm running the 64bit beta's... sorry
[00:09] <i-pink> and it work good on putty
[00:09] <gbear142751> Shock: wait... was that sarcastic?
[00:10] <isaak> redvamp128,  ok apparently something went wrong
[00:10] <isaak> i had to restart computer
[00:10] <Shock> gbear142751: no, i'm genuinely interested; i need those to work before i can switch
[00:10] <gbear142751> Slart: restart required!  looks like it may be working! :)  brb and let you know
[00:10] <Slart> thief`: you could just ask here in the channel.. might be easier to get an answer or two that way
[00:10] <yorch> Shock: lol
[00:10] <rockenrola> i-pink: are you able to log into the other pc?
[00:10] <i-pink> rockenrola: but is make me crazy to open putty all the time
[00:10] <Slart> gbear142751: oops.. restart required?.. that wasn't the kernel you were running, right?
[00:11] <Vdub> Can I use Gparted to non destructivly resize my .boot partition?
[00:11] <Shock> yorch: i've heard that KDE support in opensuse is awesome also :)
[00:11] <i-pink> rockenrola: i dont understend
[00:11] <yorch> erUSUL: thanks! I'm taking a look.. I found similar posts but my bios does not have that kind of options
[00:11] <rockenrola> i-pink: can you login from computer A into computer B?
[00:12] <Vdub> Anyone...?
[00:12] <greenruby> can anyone please tell me how to change the passphrase on encrypted ubuntu?
[00:12] <i-pink> rockenrola: login on ssh?
[00:12] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:12] <Shock> Vdub: you should be able to
[00:12] <Slart> Vdub: I think gparted can resize ext3-partitions, yes.. but backups are always good
[00:12] <quickmeow> on mac osx, where is the root directory for the built in web server?
[00:13] <Shock> Vdub: make a backup just in case with dd
[00:13] <Slart> quickmeow: wrong channel
[00:13] <rockenrola> i-pink: yes, ssh serves to login remotely into other computers
[00:13] <quickmeow> Slart: woops, do you have an answer?
[00:13] <thief`> is there someone i could pm to ask about how to install vmware? i have some easy queries - i'm stuck.
[00:13] <Slart> quickmeow: nope
[00:14] <kazekagi> Anyone know how i can get permission too the folder USR?
[00:14] <gbear14275> Slart: hmm... still a file in the /boot with the -7 kernel, but its smaller
[00:14] <rockenrola> i-pink: you have to better describe your problem. I am guessing here
[00:14] <i-pink> rockenrola: now i work on ssh, and i want to make it automatic..
[00:14] <Slart> gbear14275: but you don't get any errors when you run "sudo apt-get install -f" ?
[00:14] <gbear14275> Slart: uh oh... now getting this error when I check for updates W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C5E6A5ED249AD24C
[00:15] <gbear14275> Slart: using package manager
[00:15] <vock> Running Ubuntu 8.10, uninstalled all my nvidia drivers because they weren't working, manually installed nvidia-glx-177 and restarted X server, but it still isn't using the nvidia driver, any help? Rebuilt my xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then nvidia-xconfig, pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m166933bc
[00:15] <Slart> gbear14275: ah.. you can ignore that for now
[00:15] <gbear14275> Shock: I am unsure about the binaries... BUT... they also said they just released 64bit wine... may be another option
[00:15] <gbear14275> slart... ok
[00:15] <tsuna27> i recently read this http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/usn-714-1, did update manager automaticly download the patches
[00:15] <i-pink> rockenrola: how i can make it?
[00:15] <Slart> gbear14275: now.. check in synaptic which kernels you have installed.. remove the older ones
[00:15] <Slart> gbear14275: use the "completely remove" option
[00:16] <peterm> hi i wanted to try teamspeak but local test doesn't work with /dev/dsp as audio device
[00:16] <peterm> which should i use?
[00:16] <peterm> microphone does work
[00:16] <peterm> i hear myself
[00:16] <FloodBot1> peterm: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:16] <ubuntumistic> can anyone please tell me how to change the passphrase on encrypted ubuntu?
[00:16] <rockenrola> i-pink: I don't understand your problem. what do you want to make automatic? what is your current setup?
[00:17] <Slart> peterm: run it as "aoss teamspeak" to make it use alsa.. or "papsd teamspeak" to make it use pulseaudio
[00:17] <RediXe_> Anyone able to help me with getting a reverse vnc setup working? Everything appears to be working but the dialog isn't popping up when they connect to us. The workarounds are outdated as we are using 8.10. Thanks!
[00:17] <peterm> thx
[00:17] <Bizzeh> ubuntumistic: you dont... to do that, the entire drive would need to be decrypted, and then reencrypted with the new key
[00:17] <peterm> slart
[00:17] <thief`> anyone able to help?
[00:17] <Slart> peterm: you're welcome
[00:17] <gbear14275> Slart: seems to indicate only 9 and 11 now
[00:18] <i-pink> rockenrola: no, i want to press on a luncher on computer A and it open program on computer B
[00:18] <Slart> gbear14275: well.. remove the older one
[00:18] <peterm> slart, which command should i use to make it use oss?
[00:18] <Slart> i-pink: try using ssh
[00:18] <peterm> arg
[00:18] <peterm> forget it
[00:18] <sproaty_> Is there some tool to convert PPT -> pdf/some image format? I don't think imagemagick can.
[00:18] <gbear14275> lol, ok... booted into 9 because wasn't sure 11 was fully installed
[00:18] <gbear14275> brb again
[00:18] <Slart> peterm: it uses oss by default I think.. but ubuntu isn't really oss friendly.. make it use alsa or pulse
[00:18] <ubuntumistic> Bizzeh, how can i do that
[00:18] <Bizzeh> ubuntumistic: no idea
[00:19] <erUSUL> sproaty_: openoffice
[00:19] <gbear14275> btw... side topic... says there is a new nvidia 180 restricted driver out there and i'm using 177... should I dl it?
[00:19] <i-pink> Slart: i work with ssh now, but with putty
[00:19] <gbear14275> or would it detect it automatically?
[00:19] <erUSUL> gbear14275: no you should use the distro provided package
[00:19] <Slart> gbear14275: you'll be fine without it I think.. one problem at a time
[00:19] <rdw200169> gbear14275, generally, if you're not having problems, don't touch it!  (it's magic)
[00:19] <Rafael> error 25 on boot, any clue?
[00:19] <gbear14275> erUSUL: I don't think the distro has a compatible package
[00:20] <gbear14275> rdw200169: ok
[00:20] <Slart> i-pink: so ssh to the computer and run the program.. make sure you set the DISPLAY enviroment variable to something reasonable and the program should pop up on the other comptuer
[00:20] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:20] <rockenrola> i-pink: what is the program?
[00:20] <Slart> Rafael: google for grub error codes.. tell us what error 25 means
[00:20] <sproaty_> erUSUL: can it be called upon from the command line to do the conversion?
[00:20] <i-pink> rockenrola: the program is lamp control
[00:21] <Vubi> i restarted my computer and i'm missing the titlebars and start menus how do i install them back?
[00:21] <TakeABow> Hey, can i change root password?
[00:21] <xevil> error 25 is disk read error, I think
[00:21] <peterm> ok now i can hear other people talking
[00:21] <peterm> but they don't hear me :-(
[00:22] <DIFH-ice1oot> TakeABow: sudo passwd
[00:22] <Slart> peterm: mic boost is on? you are recording from the microphone?
[00:22] <TakeABow> ice1oot, what do i type?
[00:22] <RediXe_> Anyone able to help me with getting a reverse vnc setup working? Everything appears to be working but the dialog isn't popping up when they connect to us. The workarounds are outdated as we are using 8.10. Thanks!
[00:22] <peterm> slart, yes i'm recording form the microphone
[00:23] <DIFH-ice1oot> TakeABow: sudo passwd
[00:23] <Slart> !root
[00:23] <TakeABow> what.
[00:23] <Hector> D:!
[00:23] <Vubi> is their a way a can revert ubuntu to previous update?
[00:24] <Hector> There is no root password.
[00:24] <Slart> Vubi: nothing automatic, no
[00:24] <Hector> ubotto: You've enlightened me.
[00:24] <Hector> Thank you.
[00:24] <Vubi> Slart:  i did some updates and now i am missing the start menu and such
[00:24] <gluonman> I'm having difficulty installing flash4linux (f4l). Is it even a current project? How can I install it?
[00:24] <zhaozhou> ubottu, why do you not say you are a bot anymore? :<
[00:24] <zhaozhou> oh.
[00:24] <Jeruvy> Hector: ubottu is a bot  you can ask him many things (but do so in #ubuntu-bots or PM)
[00:24] <Slart> Vubi: updates don't usually make the menus disappear
[00:25] <Hector> :(
[00:25] <TakeABow> ah, thanks i've changed it now ^__^
[00:25] <i-pink> bash?
[00:25] <Hector> It has still enlightened me.
[00:25] <Slart> Vubi: check for error messages in /var/log/syslog
[00:25] <Vubi> Slart: I uninstalled some evolution thing and it took a bunch of plugins out
[00:25] <zhaozhou> Mhm. :-)
[00:25] <i-pink> bash or bush??
[00:25] <Slart> Vubi: oh.. that might explain it.. it probably uninstalled a lot of things.. try installing the package ubuntu-desktop
[00:26] <fiber> hello... i was wondering.. is there a way to set a hook in the  gnome networking tool so that a custom script is run after connection to a specific network (or maybe even any network.. i could process that part myself)
[00:26] <Trenter> Question:  I just updated my linux kernel and it deleted my boot options to my recovery drive and my windows partition, how do I restore them?
[00:26] <Vubi> Slart: That did it thank you !
[00:26] <Slart> !supportroot
[00:27] <peterm> Slart, they do hear me!
[00:27] <peterm> but it's ways too not loud
[00:27] <rockenrola> i-pink: on a linux box "ssh -X flip@localhost gcalctool" will do what you want. I don't know about putty
[00:27] <i-pink> how i can write script to connect via ssh
[00:27] <Slart> Vubi: don't uninstall evolution.. for some reason a lot of stuff depends on evolution
[00:27] <gbear14275> Slart: YOU ROCK!  ok i think i got -9 off completely
[00:27] <gbear14275> Slart: where do I make my donations?
[00:27] <Vubi> Slart: I though it was just the email client but it uses alot of other things :P
[00:27] <nak> i-pink: Ask a coherent question.
[00:27] <dou213> hi guys, i have a usb-stick which i want to mount on ubuntu > what was the cmd again? mount vfat ?
[00:27] <Slart> gbear14275: awesome.. now answers the next person that asks about that =)
[00:27] <Jeruvy> fiber: not really answering your question, but why not a start script to do this (in bash...)?
[00:28] <Slart> Vubi: indeed =)
[00:28] <jordo2323> All of a sudden my sound doesn't work. I am running an Audigy 2Z and don't believe it's the card. What can I do to test?
[00:28] <thief`> dou213, sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usbstick
[00:28] <rdw200169> fiber, you could take a shot with screwing around in /etc/network/if-*.d/
[00:28] <Slart> peterm: well.. then it's time to play with the mixer settings and see if you can get louder
[00:28] <benjamin_> anybody got any idea how to get bluetooth running on a toshiba a200 with built in bluetooth?
[00:28] <dou213> thief`, thx
[00:28] <thief`> if it says /media/usbstick dir not found, then sudo mkdir /media/usbstick first.
[00:28] <gbear14275> Slart: ok... but what I remember was that there were terminal commands involving the -f command, we tried dpkg, and then it stumbled to a success
[00:28] <peterm> slart, mixer is all maxed is there some tweak?
[00:28] <jordo2323> Have there been any issues with recent updates and sound?
[00:29] <gbear14275> Slart: but I'll take better notes next time
[00:29] <Slart> gbear14275: apt-get is a bit too polite.. dpkg just doesn't take no for an answer.. dpkg -f is even nastier =)
[00:29] <rdw200169> fiber, for example, when you install firestarter, it puts a script in /etc/if-up.d/ that runs when an interface comes up; this is linux networking related, not networkmanager, though; this may make what you want to do more reliable
[00:29] <fiber> rdw200169: hrm... sounds promising! do you think that is called after dhcp though?
[00:29] <dou213> thief`, "mount: mount point /media/sdc1 does not exist"
[00:30] <Slart> peterm: nothing I know of.. some soundcards have this problem..
[00:30] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i need to enable DVI out on my radeon 9550 card using fglrx. Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
[00:30] <gbear14275> Slart: ah I think i get what happened then... dpkg made room for apt-get to work basically by uninstalling what it could
[00:30] <Slart> gbear14275: sounds about right
[00:30] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213 What are you tring to do
[00:30] <dou213> thief`, the cmd i ran was > sudo /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
[00:30] <thief`> ok, that is good,
[00:30] <gbear14275> slart... can I ask one more?  W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C5E6A5ED249AD24C?
[00:30] <thief`> first do sudo mkdir /media/sdc1
[00:30] <rdw200169> fiber, i think it follows the same rules as /etc/rc*/ where you number the scripts in the order they should be run
[00:30] <Slart> gbear14275: ah.. that one.. hang on
[00:30] <TakeABow> is there anything interesting i can do with a 100/100 mbit ubuntu box with not much processing power?
[00:30] <dou213> Jack_Sparrow, i want to mount my usb-device
[00:30] <thief`> or4n_, if you like, name it someting you like... as in /media/greenstick
[00:30] <thief`> something you'll remember.
[00:31] <dou213> it is fat32 in windows
[00:31] <rdw200169> fiber, i don't know though, you should go look around in there though, it shouldn't be *too* complicated ;)
[00:31] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213 thief has it right
[00:31] <jordo2323> All of a sudden my sound system doesn't work on my Ubuntu box. I have recently updated and rebooted the system. I didn't notice it at first, but the sound system is dead?  Anyone have any ideas?
[00:31] <Trenter> Question:  I recently updated my linux kernel and it removed my windows partition and my rescue drive partition.  How do I go about restoring them?
[00:31] <gbear14275> Slart: I'll be here for another 5 hours... then I might have to sleep
[00:31] <Nubbie> TakeABow: turn it into a router with DDwrt?
[00:31] <thief`> i'm a mad n00b, but that i do know... hahah
[00:31] <fiber> rdw200169: haha, for sure... well thanks for the tip! i'll let you know if i find anything interesting out
[00:31] <TakeABow> Nubbie: It's not on my network, would be useless
[00:31] <Slart> gbear14275: oh, this will just take a minute
[00:31] <gbear14275> TakeABow: I second the firewall/router option
[00:32] <Nubbie> Trenter: upgrading a kernel cannot trash your partitions. something else went wrong somewhere.
[00:32] <dou213> maybe first i got to create the folder in /media?
[00:32] <rdw200169> fiber, generally, i have my interfaces in /etc/network/interfaces and I use ifup / ifdown to bring them up and down
[00:32] <gbear14275> TakeABow: Nubbie I prefer tomato though... but thats just what I use for my wrt54
[00:32] <Jack_Sparrow> dougl that is what thief said yes
[00:32] <rdw200169> fiber, this way, all the appropriate scripts related to their initialization are run; this works for me w/dhcp
[00:32] <thief`> dou213, after that, google mount usb fstab   - there is good info in there, to edit the fstab and make life happier.
[00:32] <thief`> dou213,  first type sudo mkdir /media/greenusbkey
[00:32] <Nubbie> TakeABow: turn it into a media slave, throw a bunch of beefy hard drives in and set it up as a file server
[00:32] <Trenter> Nubbie:  After updating my system it asked a question about linux kernel because it was updating, I said yes and now my windows boot option is gone
[00:32] <rdw200169> fiber, i'm *pretty* sure networkManager does the same thing, it would not make sense *not* to... i don't know though, i never have any luck w/NetworkManager
[00:32] <thief`> dou213,  then type sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/greenusbkey
[00:33] <dou213> thief`, ok thx :)
[00:33] <gbear14275> Trenter: how did you do your update?
[00:33] <Nubbie> gbear14275: i have ddwrt because i don't have enough flash space for tomato.
[00:33] <thief`> dou213,  it's ok that it is fat
[00:33] <Trenter> The update manager
[00:33] <Nubbie> Trenter: it didn't remove the partitions though, it just modified your bootloader
[00:33] <vock> Running Ubuntu 8.10, uninstalled all my nvidia drivers because they weren't working, manually installed nvidia-glx-177 and restarted X server, but it still isn't using the nvidia driver, any help? Rebuilt my xorg.conf with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and then nvidia-xconfig, pastebin: http://pastebin.com/m166933bc
[00:33] <Nubbie> !grub > Trenter
[00:33] <spawn> how do i get the luncher on the bottom ubuntu with the big icons and u can throw them around the screen and they go back to the bar
[00:34] <d0netsFN> hey im trying to ssh
[00:34] <Nubbie> hi everybody, i need to enable DVI out on my radeon 9550 card using fglrx. Can somebody please point me in the right direction?
[00:34] <crunchbang> ok im tryin to boot from an external harddrive and i created a partition gave it the boot flag and everything set up
[00:34] <dou213> thief`, another error: "mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist"
[00:34] <crunchbang> wont boot, but its not the first partition?
[00:34] <dou213> are u sure it is sdc?
[00:34] <gbear14275> Nubbie: I was lucky... my friend asked me if I could get his router to pick up spare wireless... I said sure!  (planning on ddwrt micro) went over there and they had a 3.1!  I said, "HERE, just take mine I'll get this old one off your hands"  Been happy ever since :)
[00:34] <Nubbie> crunchbang: modify your bios settings to boot from USB
[00:34] <fiber> rdw200169: right, well i normally go with both... this way is best because i doubt the network manager wrote it's own i[fw]config programs, it's probably just a front end... i just want to be able to control some things once i get dhcp on several choice networks
[00:34] <d0netsFN> and it says connection refused, when i try to ssh localhost it says permissions 0777 for etc/ssh/ssh_host_dsa_key are to open ubuntu
[00:34] <thief`> right.
[00:34] <Slart> gbear14275: can you pastebin the output of this command? "cat /etc/apt/source.list" ?
[00:34] <Nubbie> gbear14275: lol
[00:34] <thief`> wwhen you typed mkdir ... what exactly did you type?
[00:34] <crunchbang> Nubbie:will boot from my flash drive not my external harddrive, realises its ther jus wont boot
[00:34] <xim_> is there a tool that will tell you what programs are using how much network bandwidth?
[00:34] <rdw200169> fiber, then ifup/ifdown are the way to go
[00:35] <gbear14275> Slart: no cause it says it doesn't exist, but I'll track down my sources list for you
[00:35] <rdw200169> fiber, ipconfig/ip are tools that do network initialization manually; i.e. 'ip addr add 192.168.0.1/24 dev eth0' is the manual addition of an IP, which doesn't use the if-up (etc...) scripts
[00:35] <Slart> gbear14275: ah.. typo.. my bad "cat /etc/apt/sources.list" I forgot the s
[00:36] <dou213> thief`, sudo mkdir /media/sdc1   >>> creates the folder sdc1 in /media... the sudo mount /dev/sdc1 /media/sdc1
[00:36] <rdw200169> fiber, when you have stuff in /etc/network/interfaces though, ifup/ifdown are preferred
[00:36] <thief`> dou213, ok, now your looking good.
[00:36] <jordo2323> I recently updated my system and now my sound doesn't work. I have rebooted twice and still nothing. Anyone have any ideas?
[00:36] <thief`> type ls /media/sdc1
[00:36] <rdw200169> fiber, it doesn't matter if it's set for static or dhcp (or something else for that matter); it's a very useful tool.  that, and you can easily accomplish what you want to do using that
[00:36] <thief`> and it'll list what is on your usbkey
[00:37] <dou213> thief`, empty
[00:37] <Nubbie> bah thanks anyways guys, night
[00:37] <gbear14275> Slart: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111502/  (yeah figured out it was a mistype when I went looking for it, figured it was a problem on my end)
[00:37] <rdw200169> fiber, if what you want to do is simple, you can add pre-up commands to your /etc/network/interfaces directly, though;  i do this when i set up a bridge, for example; or bring up a virtualBox interface and add it to a bridge
[00:37] <crunchbang> anymore help, i cant boot from second partition of my external harddrive
[00:37] <thief`> dou213, that means your usb key has nothing on it.
[00:37] <thief`> does that make sense?
[00:38] <dou213> thief`, impossible
[00:38] <dou213> thief`, why the error when trying to mount?
[00:38] <_patrickd> TakeABow: You can use sudo <command> to do anything you can do as root in ubuntu as it doesn't really use the root account
[00:38] <thief`> what error do you see?
[00:38] <Slart> gbear14275: check this page https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories
[00:38] <dou213> "mount: special device /dev/sdc1 does not exist"
[00:39] <thief`> ooooh
[00:39] <thief`> ok. sorry
[00:39] <thief`> type sudo fdisk -l
[00:39] <Slart> gbear14275: there is a section about "Adding a PPAs keys to your system".. that's what you want to do
[00:39] <thief`> thta will list what is plugged in.
[00:39] <fiber> rdw200169: true, but it's probably cleaner to keep it modular and put the scripts in the /etc/network/if-up.d folder... i've faced hell after over-customizing scripts like that!
[00:39] <thief`> dont worry fdisk is not the same in linux as it is in windows.
[00:39] <thief`> it won't format your drive...
[00:40] <gbear14275> Slart: thanks! will do... btw thanks alot for the help and I don't mind pitching a few bucks to a donation spot of your choice if you have any favorite projects or anything... (offers on the table)
[00:40] <dou213> :) and now? it shows the partitions
[00:40] <dou213> oh it is sdb
[00:40] <dou213> not sdc1 :)
[00:41] <thief`> right.
[00:41] <dou213> found it
[00:41] <thief`> good job.
[00:41] <Slart> gbear14275: nah.. but do hang around in the channel and help others with problems.. that will make me sleep better at night
[00:41] <gbear14275> will do!
[00:41] <thief`> usually it is sdc1, but not always.
[00:41] <thief`> dou213, after that, google mount usb fstab   - there is good info in there, to edit the fstab and make life happier.
[00:41] <thief`> then you can mount waaay easier.
[00:41] <demon012> hey guys has anyone know of any good ultra long non netbook laptops that work well with ubuntu?
[00:41] <thief`> i just did that, and i'm happier.
[00:41] <spawn> how do i get the luncher on the bottom ubuntu with the big icons and u can throw them around the screen and they go back to the bar
[00:41] <demon012> long battery life*
[00:42] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:42] <Slart> spawn: you mean AWN?
[00:42] <dou213> thief`, thx very much
[00:42] <thief`> no prob... but really, read that, and you won't have this prob next time..
[00:42] <spawn> slart hold on let me youtube that lol
[00:42] <rdw200169> vock, i looked at the pastebin you gave me; i see no reference in the Xorg.0.log of nvidia whatsoever; sometimes, it puts the most recent log in a different file, can you make sure that Xorg.0.log has the most recent timestamp (ls -l)?  sometimes, it will put the most recent in something like Xorg.9.log or something
[00:42] <thief`> i'm learning it too
[00:43] <Slart> spawn: here's a good page http://ubuntu-snippets.blogspot.com/2008/05/ubuntu-dock-collection.html
[00:43] <spawn> slart perfect man thanks
[00:43] <Slart> spawn: you're welcome
[00:44] <Louis> Will setting the noatime option on a filesystem cause any problems on a raid0 array?
[00:44] <ScottG489> What does it mean when the volume buttons on the panel above my keyboard on my laptop are flashing? The mute and volume up buttons are flashing and the volume down is solid. This has happened before.
[00:44] <crunchbang> guys, for booting of an external hardrive thats split into two partitions does the first one have to be the boot
[00:44] <crunchbang> ?
[00:44] <ScottG489> The buttons function properly
[00:44] <vock> rdw200169,  the newest log files are called xorg.failsafe.log, does that make sense?
[00:44] <vock> rdw200169, actually that's wrong, the one i posted is actually the newest by 2 hours on that one
[00:45] <Louis> I should rephrase my question... I've been told that setting the noatime flag can cause problems with certain apps on certain setups... what kinds of problems occur and on what kind of apps?
[00:45] <rdw200169> vock, failsafe is always vesa... that doesn't help... you want one of the Xorg.X.log ones
[00:45] <rdw200169> vock, b/c if there's a problem w/starting the Xserver, it automatically restarts and goes failsafe w/vesa
[00:45] <vock> rdw200169, the problem is that nvidia-settings says nvidia drivers aren't loaded, but i'm not sure how to make them load beyond the sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-177
[00:45] <Louis> !noatime
[00:45] <thinkgnu_>  i installed ubuntu 8.10 , i got some updated package from someone who updated it's ubuntu 8.10 , now how can i use those updates in my computer?if i copy them too /var/cache/apt , should it works ?
[00:46] <Nuckler> hi
[00:46] <TheEdge_> !delete
[00:46] <Nuckler> !de
[00:46] <vock> rdw200169, tried to redo the xorg.conf and got that one that was posted, and i really don't know what else to do to make it load, and not entirely sure why there is no reference to nvidia in the log file
[00:46] <rdw200169> vock, well, we gotta see the logfile that actually mentions the nvidia video driver; it loads the nvidia glx driver but doesn't mention the video driver; that's strange; it should say something about it, with an (EE) line
[00:46] <ubuntumistic> is there a way to setup your encrypted ubuntu box so that when you enter the wrong password on the screensaver it either encrypts the hard drive some how or hibernates or shuts down?
[00:46] <Louis> thinkgnu_:  i may not be getting your question, but usually ou just have to run the update manager ot get updates.  Or type sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade in the terminal
[00:46] <vock> rdw200169, do a complete reboot instead of just the xserver and i can post the log file i get when it says i need to boot into low- graphics mode?
[00:47] <thief`> crunchbang, the bootloader is at the begining of the drive, not on either partition.
[00:47] <Louis> thinkgnu_ :  unless you're talking about something completely different, in which case, excuse my n00bishness =)
[00:47] <crunchbang> thief:its a live persistant install?
[00:47] <lakotajames> I am trying to get my joypad to work.  it doesn't show up in /dev/input/. help?
[00:47] <rdw200169> vock, don't let it boot into low-graphics; when the Xserver crashes, go back to the terminal, and see which one is newest, and copy it somewhere, then let it go failsafe; then post it
[00:47] <thinkgnu_> Louis: think if i don't have any internet connection :p , i just want to use somone else updated packages
[00:48] <vock> rdw200169, okay, brb
[00:48] <Louis> thinkgnu_:  oh.  That's going to be a royal pain in the butt =/
[00:48] <rdw200169> vock, the easiest way to restart the x server is going to a tty (Ctrl + Alt + F1), and running
[00:48] <rdw200169> vock /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:48] <thief`> crunchbang, the bootsector would be at the beginning of the drive itself.
[00:48] <vock> rdw200169, okay, brb
[00:48] <Louis> I've been told that setting the noatime flag can cause problems with certain apps on certain setups... what kinds of problems occur and on what kind of apps?
[00:48] <crunchbang> thief:so it shudnt matter the order of the drives?
[00:48] <crunchbang> Partitions*
[00:48] <saboteur> доброго вечера товарисчи
[00:49] <rdw200169> !ru | saboteur
[00:49] <Louis> !ru|saboteur
[00:49] <Louis> oops
[00:49] <lakotajames> I read that the joystick problems in intrepid were fixed, now, is that right?
[00:49] <lakotajames> mine still doesn't work
[00:49] <TheEdge_> how do i kill Firefox when not responding.. i have closed the window but when i try to start a new firefox i get a error saying that firefox is already running
[00:50] <Louis> TheEdge_:  it usually clears up after a minute or so when that happens.  Are you running the latest version of firefox?
[00:50] <lakotajames> TheEdge_: alt+f2, run "killall firefox"
[00:50] <lakotajames> without quotes
[00:50] <sysrpx> hello
[00:50] <Louis> or do what lakotajames said =)
[00:50] <Louis> hello sysrpx
[00:50] <demon012> or xkill
[00:50] <demon012> then click the firefox window
[00:51] <rdw200169> TheEdge_, it's also useful, for future reference, to add the System Monitor applet to your panel; when you click on it, it comes up with a windows-like task manager
[00:51] <demon012> make sure you do not click anything you do not wish to kill though =)
[00:51] <lakotajames> demon012: he can't see the firefox window, or he wouldn't be trying to open a new one.
[00:51] <Louis> I've been told that setting the noatime flag can cause problems with certain apps on certain setups... what kinds of problems occur and on what kind of apps?
[00:51] <demon012> ah missed that bit of the convo
[00:51] <TheEdge_> louis : 3.0.5
[00:51] <sysrpx> hey, i ahve this problem ... my ubntu gnome theme is comepletely messed up and the appearance applet isn't able to select a different theme (it selects it, but the theme isn't chanigng) .. what should i do?
[00:52] <sysrpx> hey, i ahve this problem ... my ubntu gnome theme is comepletely messed up and the appearance applet isn't able to select a different theme (it selects it, but the theme isn't chanigng) .. what should i do?
[00:52] <TheEdge_> lakotajames:  thanks
[00:52] <lakotajames> TheEdge_: you're welcome
[00:52] <sysrpx> anyone?
[00:52] <srx2002> hi guys, what's the best version of Ubuntu to install on a PS3?
[00:52] <shira> i installed 8.10 on my macbook (v2.1). At first, composite was working. Then I plugged a second monitor. Now composite no longer works, even if i unplug that monitor and reboot. any ideas?
[00:52] <ari_stress> srx2002: we can do that?
[00:52] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[00:53] <srx2002> lol
[00:53] <lakotajames> sysrpx:  I think that happened to me once, and a reboot fixed it.
[00:53] <istvan> The version of scons in the repos is old, does anyone know if there is a .deb of the latest version?
[00:53] <ScottG489> What does it mean when the volume buttons on the panel above my keyboard on my laptop are flashing? The mute and volume up buttons are flashing and the volume down is solid. The buttons still function properly. This has happened before.
[00:53] <lakotajames> Anyone know anything about Joypads?
[00:53] <tsuna27> what is the name for the screen when it pops up GNOME and has a picture of a foot
[00:53] <srx2002> anyone?
[00:53] <Mean_Admin> if I have  ssh-keygen  make one private/public key from one user and then have ssh-keygen make another private/public key, I have to combine both .pub files into authorized_keys, right ?
[00:54] <ari_stress> tsuna27: splash screen?
[00:54] <sysrpx> lakotajames: i already rebooted and it's still messed up
[00:54] <lakotajames> sysrpx: sorry, then.  That's the only thing I can remember doing to fix it.
[00:54] <sysrpx> anyone else?
[00:54] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: yes
[00:55] <koopa2> hi
[00:55] <Mean_Admin> ari_stress: then that user could login with  either key, right ?
[00:55] <istvan> anyone know where the latest scons.deb is?
[00:55] <roy_hobbs>  Hey.  I'm configuring syslog for the first time.  Is there a way for me to specify how long to keep files, how large they should be, when to increment logfile.0 to logfile.1 etc....
[00:55] <lakotajames> Do joysticks work in Intrepid now?
[00:55] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: no, only with his true key
[00:55] <vock_> rdw200169, (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[00:55] <Nuckler> have nvidia or AMD/ATI better Linux Divers?
[00:55] <sysrpx> hey, i have this problem ... my gnome desktop theme is comepletly messed up and the appearance applet isn't able to select a different theme (it selects it, but the theme isn't chanigng) .. what should i do?
[00:56] <rdw200169> vock_, finally! now we're getting somewhere
[00:56] <rdw200169> vock, can you post the whole log?
[00:56] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: i don't think we can relate one user with more than pub/priv key
[00:56] <vock_> rdw200169,  woo, somewhere!
[00:56] <srx2002> anyone?
[00:56] <ari_stress> Mean_Admin: i don't think we can relate one user with more than one pub/priv key
[00:56] <karsten> What repo(s) do I need for sun-java6-plugin?
[00:56] <Mean_Admin> ari_stress: no, I mean, if two private keys were created (with respective .pub offspring), I combine botf .pub offspring in authorize_keys and thus user can login with either of the prive keys
[00:56] <karsten> (iceweasel/firefox java plugin)
[00:56] <Mean_Admin> ari_stress: ow
[00:57] <srx2002> anyone here got intrepid Ibex installed on a ps3?
[00:58] <karsten> I've got universe & multiverse selected.  Looking at http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2006/11/20/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-with-firefox-plugin-ubuntu-6061-610/ for plugin installation instructions.
[00:58] <lakotajames> Anyone here got a Joystick to work on Intrepid?
[00:58] <karsten> srx2002: Just ask your question.
[00:58] <karsten> lakotajames: just ask your question.
[00:58] <demon012> anyone know if the macbook battery problems mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=246421 apply to just the macbook pro or to both the macbook and the macbook pro (they keep mentioning the dual graphics cards of the macbook pro)
[00:58] <savan> any shell scripting experts here? ^^
[00:58] <srx2002> What's the best version of Ubuntu to install on a ps3??  iterpeid, gutsy...etc....
[00:58] <lakotajames> How do I get a joystick to work on Intrepid?  It doesn't show up in /dev/input/
[00:59] <gbear14275> do I need the gilir/ubuntu gutsy main universe if I have intrepid now?
[00:59] <srx2002> i asked it
[00:59] <karsten> savan: Just ask your question.
[00:59] <Fertech> can some one help me, i just check if the iso file i burn match the hash and i did, so whats the next step
[00:59] <Cyberai> Does anyone know if the ubuntu remote desktop (vinagre) logs when someone accesses your desktop?
[01:00] <Chowzzf> If I installed ruby gems via wget and then: "sudo ruby setup.rb", "sudo ln -s /usr/bin/gem1.8 /usr/bin/gem". How do I remove the install?
[01:00] <karsten> Cyberai: /var/log/auth.log
[01:00] <Fertech>  when i install the ubuntu 8.10 it gave me an error 18
[01:00] <karsten> Cyberai: Check there, it's where authentication should be asked.
[01:00] <jrib> Chowzzf: read it's documentation.  In the future, use APT to install things instead
[01:00] <karsten> Fertech: On boot?  That's a grub error.
[01:00] <jrib> its even
[01:00]  * karsten steals jrib's "'" key.
[01:01] <Fertech> yes i know karsten so how can i fix this
[01:01] <savan> I want to do a chgrp -R on a directory that contains about 20 groups but I want one group to be excluded from the chgrp -R
[01:01] <Fertech> i try to install it on a 320gb maxtor
[01:02] <lakotajames> Do Joysticks work on Intrepid yet?
[01:02] <Fertech> diamondmax21
[01:02] <karsten> Fertech: I'd suggest reading GRU Bdocs, I'm not entirely familiar, but there's a breakdown of what those mean.  I think in general it's that the drive wasn't properly accessed.
[01:02] <Alex_21> Hi, I want to install PPC ed of Ubuntu 8.04 My friend who I am installing it for is used to Mac OS X/Win 98. What can I install that is bright, colourful, and looks like either
[01:02] <Vubi> Whats the best audio program for gnome?
[01:02] <Alex_21> ?
[01:02] <bruenig> Vubi: mplayer
[01:02] <karsten> rythmbox is the gnomeish one.  I prefer amarok from KDE.
[01:02] <fogobogo> bruenig: :D
[01:03] <rdw200169> Vubi, you're not gonna get an even response on this one, there's too many options
[01:03] <lakotajames> vubi I like vnc.  plays everything.
[01:03] <mmc> how are the recent packages kept ... in Git or in Bzr? How can I use them?
[01:03] <bruenig> the answer is clear mplayer for video, mpd for audio
[01:03] <karsten> Alex_21: use xfce4 as your desktop, it's themeable.  GNOME isn't particularly but it's default.  KDE4 is broken right now.
[01:03] <bruenig> !next
[01:03] <rdw200169> Vubi, and Xmms, Exaile, Songbird, and so on...
[01:03] <Vubi> I'm looking for a media player like amarok and like zune for m$ but for gnome
[01:03] <fogobogo> bruenig: phrikless zone :(
[01:03] <elpargo> anyone knows how can I ask apt "which package provides this file"
[01:03] <Cyberai> karsten, I'm not seeing any entries for vinagre
[01:03] <karsten> Vubi: rythmbox
[01:04] <bruenig> Vubi: haha I see what you did there, you put a dollar sign where the s was supposed to be
[01:04] <karsten> Cyberai: ??
[01:04] <j-b-r> Anyone feel like helping me get my gamepad working?
[01:04] <fogobogo> Vubi: mpg123
[01:04] <thief`> does a c complier come with ubuntu?
[01:04] <bruenig> Vubi: cmus
[01:04] <Vubi> bruenig: i thought thats what you call Micro$oft
[01:04] <vock_> rdw200169, http://pastebin.com/m7ac7e781
[01:04] <karsten> thief`: install gcc
[01:04] <lakotajames> j-b-r: I need help with mine, also.  No one wants to help me either :(
[01:04] <bruenig> Vubi: ahahaha you did it again, you clever dog
[01:04] <elpargo> thief`: no, instal buildessensials
[01:05] <Alex_21> Is there GCC for PPC?
[01:05] <Alex_21> ?
[01:05] <fogobogo> this is $
[01:05] <thief`> i'm installing vmware and it now says:    What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running kernel?
[01:05] <j-b-r> lakotajames: What's up with yours?
[01:05] <Bizzeh> Vubi: an $ isnt an S, an S is a letter in the english alphabet, a $ is a currency value... so micro$oft isnt a word.. but microsoft is
[01:05] <bruenig> fogobogo: do you see what he is doing with the s?
[01:05] <thief`> M$FT
[01:05] <fogobogo> bruenig: yeah! that really smart!
[01:05] <jrib> Alex_21: did you check the repositories using a program like Synaptic?  You probably just want to install build-essential by the way
[01:06] <Bizzeh> its not at all smart, it just shows how pathetic some people can be
[01:06] <Alex_21> I want to install packages from source
[01:06] <bruenig> how about this, Micr0s0ft
[01:06] <lakotajames> j-b-r: the lights come on, but it isn't recognised anywhere.  not even in /dev/input
[01:06] <jrib> bruenig: let's try to stay on-topic
[01:06] <bruenig> I replaced the o's with zeroes
[01:06] <j-b-r> Is it usb? or gameport?
[01:06] <lakotajames> jbr: usb
[01:06] <j-b-r> Oh
[01:06] <Alex_21> And no Sinaptic is out of the question. I haven't installed. I am just looking at distro options for PPC
[01:06] <bazhang> bruenig, fogobogo please chat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:06] <jrib> !ppc | Alex_21
[01:06] <lakotajames> lakotajames: it used to work, I can't remember if it was on Hardy or Gutsy, though.
[01:06] <j-b-r> The we probably don't have to same problem
[01:07] <Joeseph> After the latest kernel upgrade, did anyone else lose access to their windows share 'smb' drives?
[01:07] <lakotajames> err.
[01:07] <j-b-r> yeah
[01:07] <lakotajames> I ment j-b-r
[01:07] <Bizzeh> Alex_21: you might be better off with gentoo if you wanna use powerpc
[01:07] <lakotajames> :P
[01:07] <j-b-r> I figured it out
[01:07] <lakotajames> heh.
[01:07] <j-b-r> what you menat
[01:07] <j-b-r> *meant
[01:07] <Alex_21> Ok, thanks
[01:07] <Alex_21> Good day
[01:07] <Vubi> Bizzeh: good point you go there
[01:08] <j-b-r> So, yeah, mine is a gameport pad, and I don't think Ubuntu is recognizing my sound card properly
[01:08] <lakotajames> j-b-r does yours show up as /dev/input/js0?
[01:08] <j-b-r> No
[01:08] <spawn> how do i composit a screen? (in compiz fusion?
[01:08] <j-b-r> It doesn't show up at all
[01:08] <Vubi> anyone hook up a microsoft cam to ubuntu? vx-3000?
[01:08] <lakotajames> j-b-r same here.
[01:08] <Joeseph> I can no longer access any of my windows share drives via smb.... any help?
[01:08] <j-b-r> But I think my problem is just regocnizing the gameport itself
[01:09] <carpii> Joeseph, what error?
[01:09] <gmap> everytime I log into ubuntu i get a promt for the network manager keyring password. How can I get around having to this everytime?
[01:09] <alienjeff> oh haiz ubuntu fahs
[01:09] <carpii> check /var/log/samba/*
[01:09] <faust7> Joeseph, when you go Places, Network, are you able to see your workgroup ? and are you able to see the other computer as well?
[01:09] <Joeseph> carpii: I get different ones...  but mostly "failed to mount"
[01:10] <Joeseph> faust7: I can see my workgroup, but no other  computers.... but it has always been like that.
[01:10] <fogobogo> alienjeff: o/
[01:10] <rdw200169> vock, you installed from the nvidia website .bin right?
[01:10] <vock> rdw200169, no, from the repositories
[01:10] <alienjeff> o/ fogobogo asl?
[01:10] <carpii> youre trying to mount in fstab or via cmdline?
[01:10] <Vubi> has anyone installed a microsoft vx-3000 webcam on ubuntu?
[01:10] <Joeseph> carpii: currently, I'm just using natilous
[01:11] <Flannel> alienjeff: This is a support channel, not a chat channel, please take it elsewhere.
[01:11] <alienjeff> Flannel:  asl?
[01:11] <lakotajames> j-b-r i read that joystick support was broken in intrepid, but it supposedly is fixed now.
[01:11] <Bizzeh> alienjeff is a troll...
[01:11] <alienjeff> Bizzeh:  hai! asl?
[01:11] <rdw200169> vock, check if the kernel module exists.  try to modprobe nvidia
[01:11] <j-b-r> Well I just installed over the internet yesterday...
[01:11] <vock> rdw200169, just get a blank line after that
[01:12] <Joeseph> carpii, faust7:  I could use this just yesterday....   I have had a kernel upgrade since then I think though.
[01:12] <rdw200169> vock, honestly, i would have to screw around with this doing an SSH to your computer... this would take a while over irc
[01:12] <spawn> how do i composit a screen? (in compiz fusion?)
[01:12] <carpii> Joeseph, itd help if you had exact error messages
[01:12] <vock> rdw200169,  it's that bad?
[01:12] <TheEdge_> i am using Mplayer  put when ever i play a dvd i can't use ctrl+m  nothing happens.. also when I click a menu button in the picture nothing happens
[01:13] <rdw200169> vock, it seems that files are missing or in the wrong place... i thought you mentioned that you tried the drivers from the nvidia website
[01:13] <lakotajames> j-b-r: If you get anything figured out, post on the thread i opened.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1054506
[01:13] <demon012> anyone here got a dell e6500 running ubuntu?
[01:13] <vock> rdw200169,  sorry, i may have written it wrong when i said manual install, i did it from synaptic/repositories
[01:13] <Joeseph> carpii: "Couldn't display '[location]'  Error: Failed to mount Windows share.  Please select another viewer and try again."
[01:13] <lakotajames> j-b-r: As will I.
[01:14] <rdw200169> vock, that is very strange, b/c it detects your card, so that's not the problem; can you try to install linux-restricted-modules?
[01:14] <lakotajames> j-b-r: I think we have teh same problem, if you can't get it to show up at all/
[01:14] <rdw200169> vock, it *should* be there already, but crazier things have happened...
[01:14] <vock> rdw200169, it's installing now, wasn't there
[01:15] <rdw200169> vock, then uninstall and re-install linux-glx
[01:15] <Blais1> Hi guys, whenever I reboot my screen resolution resets itself to 1024x768, it should be 1650x1050, how can I get it to save properly?
[01:15] <Gustavo_G_> Could someone explain to me how linux auto completes parameters when I do "tab" on the command prompt. For example, I can type apt-get ins <tab> and it completes apt-get install .
[01:15] <fogobogo> Blais1: which one?
[01:15] <vock> rdw200169, no such package?
[01:15] <Blais1> fogobogo: I'm not sure I understand the question
[01:16] <rdw200169> Gustavo_G_, /etc/bash_completion
[01:16] <fogobogo> Blais1: which resolution. the gdm or the desktop?
[01:16] <exodus_ms> Gustavo_G_: Are you trying to replicate this feature somewhere else?
[01:16] <Blais1> fogobogo: is the gdm the login screen?
[01:16] <Doonz> Hey guy's. "screen" locked up on me so i killed the window and when i started a new screen im now getting a whole bunch of error. http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m2a10ce5c
[01:16] <fogobogo> yo dawg
[01:16] <Blais1> fogobogo: in which case they are both incorrect
[01:16] <karsten> aldren: Yes
[01:16] <Gustavo_G_> exodus_ms: No, not at the moment I was just curious
[01:16] <rdw200169> vock, look up 'restricted' in Synaptic
[01:16] <rdw200169> vock, and make sure you have all the repositories enabled
[01:16] <fogobogo> Blais1: theres a system menu for resolution. isnt it?
[01:17] <karsten> aldren: Nevermind.
[01:17] <Gustavo_G_> Thank you rdw200169
[01:17] <exodus_ms> Gustavo_G_: oh, ok. I
[01:17] <Blais1> fogobogo: System > Preferences > Screen resolution lets me set it correctly, yes, but when I reboot it will return to 1024x768
[01:17] <Cyberai> karsten, if the ubuntu remote desktop was not set to require a password to log in, is there somewhere the access would be logged?
[01:17] <fogobogo> Blais1: try as root!
[01:18] <rdw200169> Gustavo_G_, that, and it's started from the bash.bashrc
[01:18] <bazhang> fogobogo, no
[01:18] <karsten> Cyberai: NFC.
[01:18] <fogobogo> bazhang: no?
[01:18] <bazhang> fogobogo, dont suggest that
[01:18] <Blais1> bazhang: what would you suggest?
[01:18] <karsten> Cyberai: auth.log is the standar authentication logging location.
[01:18] <fogobogo> bazhang: using root? aka sudo?
[01:18] <bazhang> Blais1, what card and what driver
[01:18] <karsten> Cyberai: IIRC remote desktop == vnc which may not behave properly in that regard.
[01:19] <Blais1> bazhang: ati, 8.12
[01:19] <lakotajames> Anyone know how to get a Joystick working on Intrepid?
[01:19] <bazhang> Blais1, this is intrepid?
[01:19] <Blais1> bazhang: 8.06
[01:19] <bazhang> lakotajames, with what app
[01:19] <TheEdge_> i am using Mplayer  put when ever i play a dvd i can't use ctrl+m  nothing happens.. also when I click a menu button in the picture nothing happens
[01:19] <Slart> lakotajames: just connect it.. there are a couple of different calibration utilities available int eh repos
[01:19] <bazhang> Blais1, you mean 8.04?
[01:19] <Joeseph> I am completely lost on my 'smb'.   Yesterday it was working, and now I cannot access any windows share by ip or by computer name.
[01:19] <Scunizi> If I want to get Vinagre (Remote Desktop Viewer) to connect to a windows box that has tightVNC installed, does my machine have to have vnc installed as well?
[01:19] <Blais1> bazhang: oops yes
[01:20] <lakotajames> bazhang: with any app.  It doesn't show up anywhere.
[01:20] <Cyberai> karsten, but wouldn't an outside IP contacting my system be logged somewhere? No matter what the protocol?
[01:20] <lakotajames> bazhang: doesn't show up in /dev/input
[01:20] <bazhang> lakotajames, such as..could you give an example?
[01:20] <karsten> Cyberai: Not if the application doesn't  log it.  You might log access via iptables but that's entirely different.
[01:20] <lakotajames> Slart: doesn't show up in /dev/input
[01:20] <vock> rdw200169, I think i'm missing some repositories: There's one for Ubuntu 8.04 Officially supported, non-free drivers, but not the equivalent for 8.10
[01:20] <bazhang> Blais1, was this installed using restricted drivers, or from ati site directly
[01:20] <solexious> Can any one suggest a slide show program like feh, but be able to make transitions between images?
[01:20] <Slart> lakotajames: oh..normal usb joystick?
[01:21] <lakotajames> bazhang: i would be happy if it would show up anywhere.
[01:21] <Blais1> bazhang: I downloaded from the ati sitew
[01:21] <rdw200169> vock, anything intrepid specific, and i don't know, i still have not upgraded...
[01:21] <lakotajames> Slart: well, gamepad, but yes. usb.
[01:21] <rdw200169> vock, regardless, i have to leave for a while, i wish you luck, my friend
[01:21] <malibu> Hi can anyone tell me where the gnome config would be.. like to change the autohide settings for gnome panel
[01:21] <vock> rdw200169, i'm wishing i hadn't but no time to go backwards
[01:21] <lakotajames> Slart: had it working before. but not on Intrepid/
[01:21] <vock> rdw200169, thanks a lot for the help so far, made some progress
[01:21] <karsten> Cyberai: Logging is somewhat cooperative:  most daemons are set up to talk to syslogd which is set up to capture and record the log messages.  If an application doesn't generate messages, they're not logged.  If vpNC or whatever remote desktop is running ...
[01:22] <bazhang> lakotajames, perhaps I should rephrase, with what app are you trying to use it? zsnes? other?
[01:22] <karsten> Cyberai: uses PAM, then it's possible you can centrally control this.  You need to RTFM
[01:22] <Slart> lakotajames: hmm.. odd.. don't really know what to do then
[01:22] <HoNgOuRu> hi, can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:22] <bazhang> karsten, dont use that acronym here please
[01:22] <Blais1> bazhang: in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log there is a line where it states "(II) fglrx(0): Restoring recent mode: 1024x768@75Hz" not sure why
[01:23] <karsten> bazhang: read the fine manual?
[01:23] <Munchkinguy> After having upgraded my computer, I can't log on anymore. The screen is stuck with a beige background and the spinny hourglass.
[01:23] <bazhang> Blais1, iirc its a problem with fglrx
[01:23] <Munchkinguy> Can someone please help me?
[01:23] <HoNgOuRu>  can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:23] <lakotajames> bazhang: openlierox, but I don't even know if it supports Joystick, so I installed Joystick Calibrator, and it doesn't recognize it.
[01:23] <Cyberai> sorry karsten, the vinagre man is pathetically short and sheds no light, nor did google.
[01:23] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: can you log in in safe mode?
[01:23] <jrib> Munchkinguy: create a new user and see if the same thing happens for that user
[01:23] <lakotajames> Slart: thanks anyway.
[01:24] <karsten> Cyberai: sucks to be you I guess.
[01:24] <karsten> Cyberai: File a documentation bug.
[01:24] <Cyberai> karsten, thanks anyway
[01:24] <Blais1> bazhang: Everything else works fine, I can set my res once logged in, Games work, Wine works, Desktop effects work, it's just the resolution when I boot, I don't get it
[01:25] <Munchkinguy> Blais1: If I press Ctrl-Alt-F5, I can log in to the text mode.
[01:25] <karsten> 64 bit java plugin for Firefox:  install from repos or from Sun?
[01:25] <solexious> Can any one suggest a slide show program like feh, but be able to make transitions between images?
[01:25] <bazhang> lakotajames, I have had troubles with certain apps, luck with others; this is a usb joystick correct? ie game console joystick but with usb attachment
[01:25] <jrib> karsten: sun didn't have one last time I checked.  Has that changed?
[01:25] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: what about when you boot your machine, is the screen already beige, or do you have a graphical login screen?  another thing to try is to write startx in your terminal login
[01:25] <karsten> Munchkinguy: GNOME's fuxnored somehow.  Do you get a login screen at all?  Or does this happen when you give username/password?
[01:26] <lakotajames> bazhang: no, it is a standard meant-for-pc gamepad.  usb.
[01:26] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: sounds like you'll have to reinstall your graphics drivers
[01:26] <karsten> jrib: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1013658 which points ... not to Sun.  There's third-party refs.  I've deleted some tabs here.
[01:26] <arturo> where can i download powerdvd for ubuntu?
[01:26] <thief`> is there a c compiler i should use? i  need one to install an app.
[01:26] <karsten> jrib: Anywhoo:  use Ubuntu archives or 3rd party?
[01:26] <thief`> is there a good one fer ubuntu?
[01:26] <jrib> thief`: what app?
[01:26] <HoNgOuRu>  can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:26] <thief`> vmware
[01:26] <fogobogo> thief`: gcc
[01:27] <karsten> thief`: gcc
[01:27] <thief`> oooh
[01:27] <jrib> karsten: right, so just use the repositories (this is what I do).  I use icedtea
[01:27] <Munchkinguy> It seems to be stuck on " /dev/sda: Setting Advance Power Management level to 0xfe (254)  [OK] "
[01:27] <karsten> thief`: I've told you thrree times and the answer's not going to change.
[01:27] <jrib> !vmware > thief`
[01:27] <karsten> jrib: No such package.
[01:27] <thief`> i'm getting somewhere with this vm...
[01:27] <hikenboot> anyone able to help with this ldd error ldd /usr/lib/libxml2.so.2 and acpi management http://pastebin.ca/1322350
[01:27] <jrib> karsten: apt-cache search icedtea
[01:27] <karsten> jrib: What repos are you using?
[01:27] <arturo> is there any PIC16F84 programer under linux?
[01:28] <karsten> jrib: aptitude show icedtea > nada
[01:28]  * karsten searches.
[01:28] <jrib> karsten: right, so now try the command I just gave you
[01:28] <karsten> jrib: icedtea6-plugin got it.
[01:28] <karsten> thanks
[01:28] <ae88925> How can I determine how many threads a process has created?
[01:28] <fogobogo> arturo: whats a pic16f84?
[01:28] <thief`> sudo apt-get install gcc works?
[01:29] <Pici> !compile | thief`
[01:29] <karsten> jrib: Lessee if this gives joy....
[01:29] <jrib> thief`: I strongly recommend you read the documentation ubottu has sent you before proceeding (about vmware)
[01:29] <karsten> fogobogo: Google says ... what?
[01:29] <arturo> Pic16f84 is a microcontroller
[01:29] <marabout> I installed ubuntu on an old presario some weeks ago I finally put in a PCI for ethernet. I forgot password. Is there a way to retrieve or should I just reinstall?
[01:29] <karsten> fogobogo: NM.
[01:29] <PSPdemon> quick question
[01:29] <PSPdemon> how do i install the other wm's
[01:29] <PSPdemon> ?
[01:29] <Munchkinguy> Blais1, do you still think it's a graphics card problem?
[01:29] <karsten> marabout: that's  FAQ.
[01:29] <HoNgOuRu>  can u help me? my home/user folder crash and restarts when trying to view it with nautilus
[01:30] <lakotajames> bazhang: still there?
[01:30] <TheEdge_> i am using Mplayer  put when ever i play a dvd i can't use ctrl+m  nothing happens.. also when I click a menu button in the picture nothing happens
[01:30] <thief`> i just need the c compiler for vmware to use - not really for me to use.
[01:30] <HoNgOuRu> maybe it has to do with permissions
[01:30] <PSPdemon> i thought it was something like sudo apt-get install xfce-ubuntu ( ubuntu -xfce )
[01:30] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: not a card problem, a driver problem
[01:30] <HoNgOuRu> please give me a hand
[01:30] <karsten> PSPdemon: Install w/ aptitude.  They'll show up at your GDM/KDM login window as options for your X session
[01:30] <thief`> it needs it to finish the inst. as i have a mod'd kernel and it doesn't reconize it.
[01:30] <Munchkinguy> Ah.. that's what I meant.
[01:31] <solexious> If i run a command logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:31] <ae88925> vmware will need a bunch of headers too
[01:31] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: can you login with safe mode?  did startx work?
[01:31] <lakotajames> PSPdemon Did you try looking through synaptic? i installed kde and xfce that way.
[01:31] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: have you tried opening nautilus from the command line
[01:32] <Munchkinguy> Blais1, do you mean recovery mode?
[01:32] <PSPdemon> lakotajames, no didnt check there
[01:32] <PSPdemon> will check now
[01:32] <marabout> karsten: didnt find it there
[01:32] <bazhang> lakotajames, yes, just doing a quick search for your issue
[01:32] <thief`> aaaaah! ok, i have gcc apparently.  but vmware says this:
[01:32] <thief`> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[01:32] <thief`> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include]
[01:32] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: do you have a login screen?
[01:32] <Munchkinguy> no
[01:32] <lakotajames> PSPdemon just search for xfce or whatever
[01:33] <karsten> marabout:
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> yes
[01:33] <karsten> marabout: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> exodus_ms
[01:33] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: is that when the screen is beige?  or otherwise where is it?
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> its the same
[01:33] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: not sure what version of Ubuntu your using but this link might be useful --> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+question/49943
[01:33] <Munchkinguy> Yes
[01:33] <lakotajames> bazhang: ok.  I didn't want to leave if you were still trying to help me.
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> thanks
[01:33] <HoNgOuRu> I'll check it out
[01:33] <Blais1> Munchkinguy: when you go to Terminal (using ctrl+alt+F5) does startx work?
[01:33] <thief`> does my Q make sense?
[01:34] <Wolv3> basic question
[01:34] <Wolv3> what is the command to uninstall?
[01:34] <lakotajames> bazhang: and if you do find anything, tell me what search terms you used.  I have been looking all day/
[01:34] <svalenci> uninstall what wolv?
[01:34] <_VIM_> Wolv3: sudo apt-get remove PackagenameGoeshere
[01:34] <Wolv3> uniconvertor
[01:34] <jp_sf> Wolv3: sudo apt-get remove thenameofthepackage
[01:35] <Wolv3> ok ty
[01:35] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: also, are you using compiz
[01:35] <HoNgOuRu> no
[01:35] <HoNgOuRu> I had to get rid of that one...too many problems
[01:35] <HoNgOuRu> and I need my box to work
[01:35] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:36] <sm> hmm.. so is the gutsy->hardy kernel hanging with localedefs bug fixed, or not ? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/249340
[01:36] <jrib> solexious: set DISPLAY appropriately
[01:36] <hikenboot> how do i get rid of the problem of a bad libz (1.2.3)?
[01:36] <svalenci> Now its my turn to ask a question, does any know of other irc chats but for solaris or aix systems?
[01:36] <solexious> jrib, display?
[01:37] <hikenboot> think it  was caused by a conflict between acpi-support and evolution
[01:37] <jp_sf> svalenci: #solaris #aix
[01:37] <svalenci> oh, just like that?
[01:37] <svalenci> cool
[01:37] <svalenci> thanks a lot jp
[01:37] <marine> ok resize my nfts to my ext3 do it thru livecd???
[01:37] <bazhang> lakotajames, was this openlierox from the PPA or from another source?
[01:37] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf ty
[01:38] <_VIM_> np
[01:38] <exodus_ms> HoNgOuRu: on that I link o sent check the steps at the top. If that doesn't work one user mentioned this was the culprit 'My problem was solved. It was because of the (unintended!) presence of a file with bad characters.'
[01:38] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf now i download a new version but it dont install via ./config and make and make install
[01:38] <karsten> jrib: Java Joy!  Thanks tons.
[01:38] <weatherkid2> marine: you can use the LiveCD to resize the Hard Drive
[01:38] <Wolv3> is http://sk1project.org/modules.php?name=Products&product=uniconvertor
[01:39] <HoNgOuRu> ok
[01:39] <HoNgOuRu> let me try
[01:39] <marine> weatherkid2, from my windows to linux
[01:39] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf can tellme how to?
[01:39] <jp_sf> Wolv3: what are you trying to install ? what kind of error do you have ?
[01:39] <_VIM_> Wolv3: new version of what? and are you sure it's not in the repos? compiling is ugh!
[01:40] <oliver_> I want to uninstall VIM, so I did so via "Add Remove Programs", but under Synaptic Package manager, it is still listed.  I want to remove them, but I'm afriad it might remove other packages.  What should I do?
[01:40] <lakotajames> bazhang: i think it was from a manually installed deb.  But I the joystick doesn't even show up in /dev/input/, so i think the problem doesn't lie with openlierox.  and even if it does, I was going to use rejoystick to emulate the keyboard, but that doesn't work either.
[01:40] <HoNgOuRu> nope, all files have good names
[01:40] <_VIM_> I say leave the compiling to the pros
[01:40] <marine> weatherkid2, shrink my nfts then reformat to ext3 or use the unallocated partion and then refomat that into ext3
[01:40] <weatherkid2> marine, the LiveCD should partition it as the first or second step
[01:40] <solexious> jrib, display?
[01:40] <karsten> oliver_: Why?  vim's generally useful and I'd suggest you leave it there.
[01:40] <amischi> n nessun canale. Prova prima /join #<canale>
[01:40] <amischi>  Non sei in nessun canale. Prova prima /join #<canale>
[01:40] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf this software is a converter // win version to linux version design software files
[01:40] <FloodBot3> amischi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:41] <_VIM_> Ubuntu has over 30 thousand packages, surely your app is going to be in the repos...
[01:41] <jp_sf> Wolv3: so it is not in the repository right ?
[01:41] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  jp_sf but the version 1.1.2 no work with some new files
[01:41] <marine> weatherkid2, i have already installed linux i want to use up the remaining harddrive space in windows because i'm running out of room
[01:41] <oliver_> karsten, i guess your right, but in the future if i wanted to remove it, how would i completely remove it?
[01:41] <_VIM_> Wolv3: ok well there should be a 'doc/s' 'readme' folder or file , you'll have to read those
[01:41] <_VIM_> Wolv3: hmmm have you tried backports?
[01:41] <_VIM_> !backports
[01:42] <jp_sf> Wolv3: ok It might need some lib what is the name of the program and what is the errors messages you have when you ./configure make install ?
[01:42] <Wolv3> _VIM_,  to install package:   python setup.py install
[01:42] <Wolv3>  (will be installed into Python site-packages/ directory)
[01:42] <oliver_> also why do people use emacs and vim when there are IDEs that do better jobs?
[01:42] <weatherkid2> marine, hmm. I think if you get GParted from the Repos you may be able to reformat the leftover space.
[01:43] <bazhang> lakotajames, which joystick was it? and this is not working with jscalibrator installed, correct?
[01:43] <_VIM_> Wolv3: if it has a 'setup.py' it shoudlnt need ./configure and all that rubbish
[01:43] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:43] <marine> that's what i have gparted just resize my nfts file which will give me an unallocated parttion then merge into ext3
[01:44] <shira> My desktop effects stopped working after I plugged in a secondary monitor. Now it doesn't work even if the second monistor isn't plugged in. Any ideas? I'm on a macbook w/ ubuntu 8.10.
[01:44] <Wolv3> _VIM_, then how i install?
[01:44] <marine> weatherkid2, <marine> that's what i have gparted just resize my nfts file which will give me an unallocated parttion then merge into ext3
[01:44] <MethinX> iI want to beable to play Mp3s on my Ubuntu, how do I install a program that will allow them to play?
[01:44] <jrib> MethinX: double click on an mp3
[01:44] <lakotajames> bazhang: jscalibrator is installed, and it doesn't pick it up.  Joystick is "Recoil GGE909" and it did work before.  Been a long time ago, I would guess Hardy or Gutsy.
[01:44] <Munchkinguy> Blais1: startx yields this error http://pastebin.ca/1322361
[01:45] <MethinX> isnt there a codec that I need installed?
[01:45] <weatherkid2> marine, i am not the best with Partitions. I wig when ever i reformat mine using the automated app. That is the best I can do.
[01:45] <oliver_> MethinX, No
[01:45] <bazhang> ubuntu-restricted-extras MethinX
[01:45] <bazhang> MethinX, also check out packages from medibuntu.org
[01:45] <MethinX> thank you
[01:46] <shira> shira
[01:46] <_VIM_> Wolv3: i think its sudo python setup.py install or sudo python setup.py
[01:47] <amischi_> 'dpkg --configure -a'
[01:47] <amischi_> i have a problem with updating
[01:47] <_VIM_> !away | step21|away
[01:47] <amischi_> 'dpkg --configure -a'
[01:47] <MethinX> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:47] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[01:47] <amischi_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:47] <amischi_> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:48] <obtix> hey, i would like to use grep to get some data out of a file. I have a list with a ton of mailto:email@domain.com i want to display everything after the mailto: if possible.
[01:48] <_VIM_> amischi_: i'd add a 'sudo' to that
[01:48] <Bizzeh> ill start using free formats why my ipod supports compressed free formats
[01:48] <amischi_> i run 'dpkg --configure -a'  but said command not found
[01:48] <_VIM_> 9 times out of 10, when dealing with installing/removing or anything dealing with packages you'll need sudo
[01:49] <zanic> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[01:49] <weatherkid2> sudo is the King of Ubuntu Term lol
[01:49] <_VIM_> amischi_: no quotes
[01:49] <svalenci> lol
[01:50] <amischi_> i must write 'sudo dpkg  --configure -a'
[01:50] <_VIM_> no quotes
[01:50] <_VIM_> just sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:50] <nivek> help!!!! my graphics are totally messed up!!! I don't knwo what happend.... but how can i fix it?
[01:51] <amischi_> it is working
[01:51] <whatev> clean your glasses?
[01:51] <svalenci> lol
[01:51] <_VIM_> amischi_: ok :)
[01:51] <svalenci> nivek you got nvidia?
[01:51] <nivek> svalenci, yes
[01:52] <amischi_> it sais aborted
[01:52] <svalenci> sudo apt-get install envy
[01:52] <bazhang> lakotajames, is it detected as a mouse and sometimes causes crashes? there is a bug from early in intrepid with that particular make and model usb gamepad
[01:52] <svalenci> it is suppose to install the nvidia drier
[01:52] <_VIM_> !fixapt | amischi_
[01:53] <nivek> svalenci, so i should sudo apt-get install nvidia driver?
[01:53] <svalenci> envy is the application you need to install... it will install your nvidia drivers
[01:53] <King_InuYasha> is something in Ubuntu intrepid that breaks the fglrx proprietary driver?
[01:53] <svalenci> I just tried it today and it worked for me
[01:53] <_VIM_> !envy
[01:54] <lakotajames> bazhang: I don't think it is detected as a mouse.  How would I be able to tell?  none of the buttons do anything.  And the sticks don't do anything either.  I haven't crashed, but I haven't had it plugged in that long, either.
[01:54] <crimzon> Hello everyone.
[01:54] <bazhang> svalenci, envyng-gtk is always the last choice here
[01:54] <nivek> which envy do i install? core, gtk, or qt?
[01:54] <King_InuYasha> because its really annoying that since the FOSS driver doesn't support OpenGL 2.1, that I need to use a driver that doesnt work
[01:55] <bazhang> nivek, which card and what version of ubuntu
[01:55] <nivek> bazhang, hwo can i find out?
[01:55] <svalenci> nivek talk to bazhang he sounds like he knows more about it
[01:55] <bazhang> lsb_release -a for version nivek
[01:55] <bazhang> lspci for card nivek
[01:55] <nivek> bazhang, ubuntu version is 10
[01:55] <bdubnc> Hey guys I have a little bit of a problem.  I am using Ubuntu server 8.04.2.  I need to know how I can downgrade php 5.2.4 to 5.1.  I need to because our developers are build there applications using nusoap and it conflicting with the default soap server installation.  There is no way of shutting this down unless I fully re-build php 5.2.  I just want to downgrade which would be easier
[01:56] <crimzon> Has anyone had any luck with getting the Intel 945 GPU to display textures correctly in D3D environments?
[01:56] <bazhang> lakotajames, okay, well it worked fine under feisty apparently but there is at least one bug in intrepid I have seen associated with that gamepad
[01:57] <thief`> you guys recommend a good podcast for people new to ubuntu?
[01:57] <thief`> i want to learn more.
[01:57] <xim_> how can i install open office 3? only the old version is in synaptic (2.4) and it doesnt format documents the same
[01:57] <DClayBuck> Anybody have any idea why I might be getting a CRC error during Grub loading after installing the most recent updates in Intrepid 64?
[01:57] <svalenci> thief, you will learn a whole lot more by reading the uubunto forum and putting it to practice. :)
[01:57] <nivek> bazhang, nVidia Corporation GeForce 7150M and 8.10
[01:58] <_michele> Girls allowed here ?
[01:58] <lakotajames> bazhang: The first distro i used was gutsy, and am now on intrepid.  I know it worked before.  So does this mean that I can't use the pad?  Are there any work arounds?
[01:58] <svalenci> Well michele I am a girl... kill me for it lol
[01:58] <_michele> hi there
[01:58] <bazhang> http://a15.video2.blip.tv/1510000556556/Ubuntupodcast-UbuntuPodcastEpisode18415.ogg thief`
[01:58] <svalenci> welcome _michele
[01:58] <_michele> ty
[01:58] <bazhang> thief`, found via distrowatch.com
[01:59] <marine> svalenci, sweet name
[01:59] <amischi_> i have done does'n t run
[01:59] <svalenci> TY TY very much, my momma gave it to me
[01:59] <svalenci> lol
[01:59] <marine> svalenci, what else did she give you
[01:59] <nivek> bazhang, which envy do i install? core, gtk, or qt? I have nVidia Corporation GeForce 7150M and 8.10. Thanks :)
[01:59] <bazhang> nivek, should be in hardware drivers; have you checked the driver there
[02:00] <bazhang> nivek, dont believe envyng-gtk is needed in intrepid anymore, I have nearly the same card and hardware drivers takes care of it
[02:00] <gmap> how can i stop keyring from asking for my password anyone?
[02:00] <nivek> bazhang, no it worked fine earlier today....but i had an "acciednet'...i opened like a trillion terminal windows (plus or minus 1) and i dont know w hat happend after that..but my video was lal messed up
[02:00] <lakotajames> bazhang: Are there very many joypads that don't work under intrepid?  This one was only like $10. but i don't want to buy another if there is a very big chance of it not working.
[02:00] <candive> Hi all, Please explain: chris@chris-laptop:~$ sudo dpkg --configure -a
[02:00] <candive> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[02:00] <candive> Aborted
[02:00] <candive> chris@chris-laptop:~$
[02:00] <FloodBot3> candive: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:00] <bazhang> nivek, do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[02:01] <nivek> bazhang, yea on my initial install of ubuntu i had no problems..
[02:01] <nivek> bazhang, i don't know if i do...
[02:01] <bazhang> lakotajames, just bought two cheap ones and they work fine, though with zsnes, not with openlierox; perhaps the PPA will give you better luck :)
[02:01] <marine> svalenci, you never answered me :)
[02:02] <candive> ok? now please explain "flood" ther are onlya few words?
[02:02] <svalenci> if that was the case, he would be receiving notification about nvia drivers to be installed. or missing. No?
[02:02] <candive> !flood
[02:02] <bazhang> candive, no, there are four consecutive lines; if you need to paste, use paste.ubuntu.com in the future
[02:02] <nivek> bazhang, k i tried xconfig ..gonny it worksa reboot thanks for the help..hopefull
[02:03] <lakotajames> bazhang: maybe i should try zsnes.  maybe the other programs are the problems.  Also, I think i searched for openlierox in teh repos, and didn't find it.
[02:03] <bazhang> lakotajames, there is a PPA if you need the link
[02:03] <candive> bazhang, thanks 4 line max? I never noticed that before
[02:03] <tabidachi_> Hello--how do I add adobe's open type fonts to Ubuntu?
[02:04] <lakotajames> bazhang: is the link on teh sourceforge page? because if it is, thats probably how it is installed.
[02:04] <svalenci> Rules are rules candive, nothing we can do about it besides sticking to them, after all it is a free service :)
[02:04] <bazhang> lakotajames, no its a launchpad PPA ; /msg ubottu ppa for more info if you wish
[02:04] <gmap> how do you get firefox to run fullscreen when running it in xsession
[02:04] <crimzon> How can I improve texture rendering in Direct 3D enviroments. Intel GMA950 chipset with 945 GPU
[02:05] <lakotajames> bazhang: ok, I will look into it.  I g2g for now, though.  thanks for the help :)
[02:06] <DClayBuck> Installed Intrepid x64 updates today via GUI.  Now I get a CRC error from grub and the system halts on boot.  Can anybody help me figure out what's going on?
[02:06] <candive> I have never flooded before so I'm lost as to exactly what i did??
[02:06] <bazhang> gmap f11
[02:06] <crimzon> spam!!! spam!!! baned for life!
[02:07] <markl_> did you cut and paste something?
[02:07] <svalenci> hehe
[02:07] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[02:07] <crimzon> banned*
[02:07] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fonts
[02:07] <_VIM_> !away > Hero[brb[
[02:07] <gmap> bazhang the window size does not cover the enter screen
[02:07] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, there is nothing about open type fonts there
[02:07] <crimzon> Any Vaio users out there?
[02:07] <candive> Hi please see my paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com/111517/
[02:07] <DClayBuck> candive: It's called flooding when you send a bunch of messages to the channel at the same time.
[02:08] <The_Rebel> is there a 64bit flash plugin in the repos yet?
[02:08] <phpstar> hello everyone
[02:08] <thief`> thanks bazhang
[02:08] <gmap> bazhang in my xinitrc file i put exec firefox -fullscreen however it does not fill the whole screen
[02:08] <phpstar> can i use LTSP to deploy Win XP image on thin clients ??
[02:08] <thief`> if i want to update virtualbox, can i just do sudo apt-get upgrade virtualbox  ? will that jsut update that one prog?
[02:09] <candive> ?
[02:09] <xim_> how can i install open office 3? only the old version is in synaptic (2.4) and it doesnt format documents the same.  i dled the package from the website but its full of rpms
[02:09] <bazhang> thief`, virtualbox-ose? or the one downloaded from 3rd party site
[02:09] <phpstar> i need this help to setup christian school
[02:09] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: you will have to convert them, but you could try opentype font were developed by Microsoft and Adobe not the most open source friendly companies in the world
[02:09] <_VIM_> xim_: rpms are for Fedora/RedHat ... Ubuntu uses .debs
[02:09] <phpstar> pls anyone who knows help me pls
[02:09] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: you will have to convert them, but you could try to install them
[02:09] <Munchkinguy> I fixed my login problem; I had some old versions of libz in /usr/local/lib
[02:10] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, I know, but I need them for graphic design.
[02:10] <thief`> hmm, i'm not sure which i want. ii thought i had it installed, but now - not so sure.
[02:10] <bazhang> xim_, there is a PPA for that, but it is at your own risk so be advised
[02:10] <xim_> _VIM_: hehe i know thats the problem, can you not use the modern OO on ubuntu?
[02:10] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, you can pm me if you want
[02:10] <xim_> bazhang: PPA?
[02:10] <_VIM_> xim_:  bah, bazhang beat me to it, follow what he just told you
[02:10] <bazhang> !ppa
[02:10] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: I understand but I would try to install them in /usr/share/fonts and and then update the fontdatabase
[02:10] <bazhang> xim_, ^^
[02:11] <xim_> thx sir
[02:11] <phpstar> can i use LTSP to deploy Win XP image on thin clients ??
[02:11] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, these are otf files, is that okay?
[02:11] <thief`> actually, i gotta see if i can run it on my kernel.
[02:11] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: I don't PM you as I believe that somebody more skilled than myself could talk about it
[02:11] <xim_> So is it really risky?  would I be better of waiting for it to get into synaptic?
[02:12] <bazhang> xim_, not sure as have not tried but the risk factor is probably lower than trying out a unsupported kernel for example
[02:12] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: I don't have those fonts but you could tryto install them make a directory in /usr/share/fonts/type1
[02:12] <xim_> hmm ok
[02:13] <DClayBuck> Installed Intrepid x64 updates today via GUI.  Now I get a CRC error from grub and the system halts on boot.  Can anybody help me figure out what's going on?
[02:13] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh?
[02:13] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: copy them in a directory otf like sudo mkdir /usr/share/fonts/type1/otf
[02:13] <dmoerner> solexious: ssh -X
[02:13] <X3S> How can I kill firefox from the processus
[02:13] <SpaceAceX> I just got a ga-e7aum-ds2h mobo (9400mGPU) and installed ubuntu 8.04 but I cant seem to get the nvidia 180.22 drivers working for it only vesa... can anyone help?
[02:13] <dmoerner> X3S: killall -q firefox
[02:13] <solarwar> did ubuntu 8.10 stop using /etc/X11/xorg.conf? if so what configuration files does it use? Or how may I tweak it?
[02:13] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: copy your fonts there /usr/share/fonts/type1/otf
[02:13] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, then what?
[02:13] <dmoerner> solarwar: it now auto-detects. if you think you are smarter than it you can still get an old-style config file by running X -configure
[02:14] <solexious> dmoerner, thank you
[02:14] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: sudo mkfontdir /usr/share/fonts/type1/otf
[02:14] <X3S> dmoerner,  Thanks, can I found a graphic for processus kill like windows one ?
[02:14] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: cd /usr/share/fonts/type1
[02:14] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: sudo fc-cache
[02:14] <dave_> hi
[02:15] <dave_> i cant get my s-video out to work on my toshiba satelite
[02:15] <BlueKoala> X3S: Click on System - Administration - System monitor
[02:15] <dave_> that is after X starts
[02:15] <solarwar> dmoerner, thanks, what does X do? there is no man page?
[02:15] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, is that all?
[02:15] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: you will have to restart your graphical environment  to reload them I would believe
[02:15] <X3S> BlueKoala,  Thanks ^^
[02:15] <tabidachi_> jp_sf, I'll give it a try.
[02:16] <dave_> the startup splash screen shows on the tv , so the button works, i assume its a problem with X
[02:16] <jp_sf> tabidachi_: gdm restart
[02:16] <thief`> bazhang,  now i dont know which vbox to get.
[02:17]  * porter1 looks on as Firefox continues its instability spree with Flash Player..
[02:17] <bazhang> thief`, -ose has no usb support; depends if you need that
[02:17] <mackmgg> hi
[02:17] <solexious> dmoerner, that seems to open the graphical bit on the computer in sshing from not the computer in sshing into...
[02:17] <mackmgg> anyone have a macbook pro w/ ubuntu
[02:17] <[TiZ]> Hi. I have a question about a little quirk. When I run a game in fullscreen, I am unable to use the volume keys for my laptop. However, when I play a fullscreen game in Wine, they work perfectly. Is there a way to get my volume keys to work in linux native games?
[02:17] <mrpinky> hi guys, "id" command shows that i am a member of "lp" and "lpadmin", but i still get a permission error accessing /dev/parport0 i note that /dev/parport0 is a ppdev device not lp device. how can i give myself permissions to access /dev/parport0? :)
[02:17] <bazhang> !macbook
[02:18] <BlueEagle> !anyone | mackmgg
[02:18] <mackmgg> the trackpad isn't working right on my computer
[02:18] <dave_> i cant get my s-video out to work on my toshiba satelite
[02:18] <dave_> the startup splash screen shows on the tv , so the button works, i assume its a problem with X
[02:18] <orbstra> hey I am running the latest ubuntu server, and I am trying to connect to an external USB drive i have plugged int... I am not positive waht format the external HD is, but it is either NTFS or FAT32... and I need to mount it and transfter the files off thruogh command line.. help would be great
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: If you have ubuntu with gnome (GUI), it should automount it for you
[02:19] <orbstra> ** use command line to transfter the files off...
[02:19] <orbstra> WebcamWonder : I am connecting tot eh server with ssh
[02:19] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: Oops, missed the cli part
[02:19] <gandhii> newb question: trying to make a launcher that runs a bash script to mount a series of shares..   gksu bash script.sh is working from the terminal, but not when inserted into a launcher.   What am I missing here?
[02:20] <dmsuperman> When printing to my school's printer they require a separator page...how might I print that in Ubuntu?
[02:20] <orbstra> WebcamWonder : hehe yeh.. any ideas bud?
[02:20] <mrpinky> i should add that "chmod 777 /dev/parport0" works, but how should i automate this? do i really need to put the chmod in some startup script, or is there a "clean" way to do it, a group i can add myself to? :)
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Which group does the device belong to?
[02:20] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, how can i find out? :)
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: ls -l /dev/parport0
[02:20] <thief`> bazhang,  hmm, i'd need bluetooth, it doesn't work?
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: That should show owner:group for the file.
[02:20] <mackmgg> so, anyone know how to get the trackpad on a macbook pro 3,1 working?
[02:20] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: sudo fdisk -l (to get the partition table). sudo mount /dev/<device_name> /mount/point
[02:20] <yoyoned> orbstra: sudo mkdir /mnt/usb;mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
[02:20] <thief`> bazhang, usb i guess... heh, i could do without.
[02:20] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: and then use cp
[02:20] <nathanhelp> I would like some advice. I have two machines. One has Ubuntu, the other has a duel boot WinXP, and Ubuntu, each on separate Harddrives. I want all three to be able to link to the same Thunderbird profile. Any tips?
[02:20] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Also, have you logged out and back in after adding yourself to the group (including re-starting X)?
[02:20] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, i see "crwxrwxrwx 1 lp scanner 99, 0 2009-01-30 13:05 /dev/parport0", looks to be a member of "lp", "scanner" and "99"?
[02:20] <bazhang> thief`, its not supporte d in the -ose version (usb)
[02:20] <[TiZ]> Hi. I have a question about a little quirk. When I run a game in fullscreen, I am unable to use the volume keys for my laptop. However, when I play a fullscreen game in Wine, they work perfectly. Is there a way to get my volume keys to work in linux native games?
[02:20] <mackmgg> wait is there a channel for macbooks?
[02:20] <thief`> bazhang, it's really jsut so ii can play fulltilt poker. hahah
[02:21] <candive>  Hi please see my paste. http://paste.ubuntu.com/111517/
[02:22] <orbstra> alright gimme a sec to try those guys... THANKS for the help btw it is always appreciated
[02:22] <solexious> If im logged in to a computer and stiiting at it and run a command that spawns some thing graphical, i.e. feh, it works, but how can I do the same logged in over ssh, with the graphical side opening on the computer being ssh'd into?
[02:22] <thief`> bazhang, it happen to support bluetooth?
[02:22] <bazhang> thief`, not sure there, as I have no bluetooth vbox needs at the moment :)
[02:22] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Look at X over SSH. It allows you to run GUI programs over ssh
[02:22] <thief`> hehe, i hear ya.
[02:22] <joaboaconstrctr> hey all--anyone know the command to change permissions for file with the following pathname in terminal>> /media/74.5 GB_BACKUPS<<
[02:22] <thief`> i'm running an asus eee - it usues a special kernel.
[02:22] <solexious> webcamwonder, thank you
[02:22] <thief`> so i not sure if it'll work.
[02:23] <orbstra> you guys are the BEST
[02:23] <bazhang> thief`, the array kernel? should do
[02:23] <thief`> right.
[02:23] <orbstra> it worked
[02:23] <orbstra> thanks guys SERIOUSLY
[02:23] <thief`> i've read the one ver. doesn't work?
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, yep i restarted whole pc
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Then you need to be a member of the "scanner" group to use the device.
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: lp is the owner and scanner is the group.
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, ah i see
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: So add the user(s) you want to be able to use the device to the scanner group and, if neccessary, log them out and back in and it should be availible.
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, so users need to be in the same group as a file to access the file?
[02:23] <BlueEagle> mrpinky: Well, seeing as that file (now) is rwx for others it should not be neccessary tbh.
[02:23] <mrpinky> BlueEagle, ah depends on the permissions :) i get it
[02:23] <bazhang> thief`, the 3rd party or the -ose? if one does not work its easy to get the other
[02:24] <solexious> webcamwonder, am I confused, as that seems to be about opening gui's on the box being ssh'd from not into
[02:24] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[02:24] <thief`> i am from winders. i just don't like inst. / uninst. progs. hahah
[02:24] <thief`> ruins my registry.
[02:25] <bazhang> thief`, no need to worry here :)
[02:25] <thief`> i tried to inst. vmware... failed. it didnt like my array kernel.
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Oh, my bad. You want to run a gui program on the ssh server?
[02:25] <solexious> webcamwonder, Yup :)
[02:25] <nathanhelp> I would like some advice. I have two machines. One has Ubuntu, the other has a duel boot WinXP, and Ubuntu, each on separate Harddrives. I want all three to be able to link to the same Thunderbird profile. Any tips?
[02:25] <bazhang> thief`, if this is intrepid then vbox is much better supported
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Then how would you interact with it?
[02:25] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Dropbox
[02:25] <thief`> it wanted me to get headers, i diid that, then it needed a c compiler to to the kernel module (or something) and that failed.
[02:25] <vale_maio> hello world
[02:25] <thief`> yep, on intrepid. 8 10
[02:26] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Or rsync, pick your favourite
[02:26] <thief`> really? so screw vmware?
[02:26] <solexious> webcamwonder, Dont need to, im usinf feh to make a slide show happens, hands free
[02:26] <thief`> i thunk vmware would be waaay better as it's so popular / old / tried  and true.
[02:26] <nathanhelp> !rsync
[02:26] <pasteeater> i like this thread title: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1053932
[02:26] <bazhang> thief`, your choice really, or try wine to see if that will run it check the !appdb
[02:27] <thief`> yeah, wine doesn't work well for that app... i hear ya though.
[02:27] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, the most reasonable thing to do would be to export that profile from the machine just using one OS.
[02:27] <thief`> so really though? from what you said, it sounds great. the ose ver. will work ok for this eee with array kernel?
[02:27] <solexious> webcamwonder, wow, I did a lot of typos then
[02:27] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: That ofcourse does require that this machine be online for the others to have access to that profile.
[02:27] <orbstra> any ideas?
[02:27] <nathanhelp> Please expand BlueEagle...
[02:27] <thief`> fulltilt freezes in wine, and you lose the game cause of it. hah
[02:27] <thief`> not good.
[02:27] <g4lv4tr0n> hi how do i get my pci dvb card working in ubuntu ?
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> solexious: hmm. I have no clue. ssh doesn't work like that, unless there is some config that changes it to behave in that kind of a manner
[02:28] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: ?
[02:28] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/expand
[02:28] <vale_maio> can someone give me a little help?
[02:28] <solexious> webcamwonder, would telnet work you think?
[02:28] <aesa> i am looking for somebody to help me out with edubuntu os installed computer
[02:28] <orbstra> sorry to be a bother.. but how do I coppy the entire contents of the current folder I am in through CLI
[02:28] <danbhfive> I thought I heard someone owns an eeepc.  [q]  Where are the in and out take vents?
[02:28] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: lol. Not what I meant.
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> orbstra: cp -r /source /dest (I THINK, I AM NOT SURE!)
[02:29] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, what did you mean? Because I am quite certain that you did not want me to become obese.
[02:29] <joaboaconstrctr> can anyone help with a command line question?
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> solexious: I don't think so. I need you need some vnc variant to do that
[02:29] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: ?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> orbstra,  or cheat like i do and install the 'mc' file manager. :) and use it..
[02:29] <DIFH-ice1oot> !ask | joaboaconstrctr
[02:29] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Haha :D. I meant can you expand your explanation on that. Exporting? machine online for them to access?
[02:29] <adieee_> hai
[02:29] <solexious> webcamwonder, well thanks any way :)
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: If I understood you correctly, you need to sync between 4 different OS right?
[02:30] <WebcamWonder> solexious: Sorry, couldn't help you any further
[02:30] <joaboaconstrctr> ok...how do I change ownership of an external drive directory  with the following address (the spaces were created in os x)>>/media/74.5 GB_BACKUPS
[02:30] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: No just 2 different os's on three different HD's
[02:31] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: expand : 7. to express something more fully or in greater detail
[02:31] <nathanhelp> :P
[02:31] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, if I understood your question correctly you want to have access to the same piece(s) of data from three different scenarios. What you want to do is to store this data in one place as to more easily keep it synchronised. To do that you would most likely want to share the storage on which this data is keept.
[02:31] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: With nautilus right click on the folder and change the permission. However, changing permission is not something we recommend
[02:31] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Thats correct.
[02:32] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: And that is why I said, Dropbox, or rsync :)
[02:32] <thief`> bazhang,  so really though? from what you said, it sounds great. the ose ver. will work ok for this eee with array kernel?
[02:32] <joaboaconstrctr> <WebcamWonder:  I need to create a directory on an external drive, already formatted to back up
[02:32] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: To accomplish this you would like to export a share from the machine that is only using one operating system. The reason for choosing this to export from is because it will always have access to the data and would always be able to read the partition information.
[02:32] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: How would i go about doing so, and what is a safe way of doing so? Would Ubuntu accessing NTFS Directory cause a problem?
[02:32] <nathanhelp> !dropbox
[02:32] <bazhang> thief`, well I did qualify it with 'should do', though if it does not the other certainly will
[02:32] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: However the limitation you incur with such a setup is that the machine exporting the shared data need to be turned off and have a working network connection for this to work.
[02:33] <BlueEagle> !ntfs | nathanhelp
[02:33] <joaboaconstrctr> <WebcamWonder:  also, I want to get away from the gui and start working on the command line
[02:33] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: mkdir /path/to/folder, for creating directories, and chmod for changing permissions
[02:34] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: What you DO want to do is to have the one machine running only Ubuntu define a shared network resource (this might be SMB or LDAP depending on your personal taste) and have the machine using both Ubuntu and Windows mount that shared resource and read the data from it.
[02:34] <thief`> bazhang,  oh, sorry, ok, thank you. as before i was  reading it didn't work, but maybe intrepid fixed those probs i read as you mentioned. thank you.
[02:34] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: An alternative implimentation that would achieve the same goal (read mail from everywhere) would be to use IMAP instead of POP to read your mail.
[02:35] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle:  I already have got it set up. however im concerned that it is corrupting my WinXp drive. Would it be a good idea to have the profile on a Fat32 partition? And can both WinXP and Ubuntu write to those?
[02:35] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Did you read what ubottu told you about !ntfs ?
[02:35] <nathanhelp> doing so now. I have a slow computer :)
[02:35] <phirestalker> does anyone know of a way to list the currently installed programs by date last used?
[02:36] <joaboaconstrctr> <WebcamWonder:  my problem is that I don't know the syntax for the path>> /media/74.5 GB_BACKUPS
[02:36] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: ie. you want to use ntfs-3g drivers if you want to write to ntfs. What you could do is to make a fat-partition just to keep the shared data as writing to fat is more tried and tested.
[02:36] <WebcamWonder> joaboaconstrctr: sudo chmod <your permissions here> /media/74.5\ GB_BACKUPS
[02:36] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Still, accessing the same data on several computers requires that that data be shared over the network in any case.
[02:37] <joaboaconstrctr> thanks
[02:37] <redvamp128> BlueEagle:  also he should probably want to install the NTFS configuration tool as well
[02:37] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: I read it but it didnt mean much to me.
[02:37] <Out_Cold> has anyone used outguess here before?
[02:38] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Oh, and "please expand BlueEagle" is not the same as "please expand, BlueEagle". :)
[02:38] <nathanhelp> lol I like you.
[02:38] <BlueEagle> ;)
[02:39] <phpstar> #wiul
[02:40] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, when you mount the ntfs-partition you want to specify that it is -t ntfs-3g and not -t ntfs (the latter only provides read access by default and the write access is broken)
[02:40] <kao> Hello, Does anyone have any idea why Firefox crashes every time I view a webpage that has Flash content imbedded within?
[02:40] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Ok. I'm sorry about my missing comma. The things i've read say that Ubuntu is unable to write to NTFS without some help/tweaking/correct tools. But... Me in my naivety (SP) has done so already and it is working. But..now my WinXP is having some weird behaviour. Could I have damaged the WinXP by allowing the ubuntu to write to the Thunderprofile?
[02:41] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: That depends on the nature of said "weird behaviour".
[02:41] <Out_Cold> kao, get flashblock from the repos.. that solved my problem
[02:41] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: What you may see is windows scanning the drive when you boot. But other than that the drivers should not affect the data on the drive.
[02:41] <nathanhelp> Network drivers just stopped. Cant System Restore...Other littler thigns that dont stop the XP from working, just annoying.
[02:41] <kao> Out_Cold: Does this do exactly what the name implys and just blocks all flash content?
[02:42] <kao> Out_Cold: If So, This is not what I want.
[02:42] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, that doesn't sound like data corruption. Just coincidences.
[02:42] <Out_Cold> it will block it until you click on the flash object..
[02:42] <Out_Cold> kao, it works well with the crashing problem and allows faster loading
[02:42] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Also, someone mentioned some ntfs configuration tools. You might want to ask redvamp128 about it.
[02:42] <kao> Out_Cold: Ok, I will try that. Thank you
[02:43] <Out_Cold> then if you want the flash, you just click..
[02:43] <redvamp128> nathan in the repository there is ntfsconfiguration tool
[02:43] <phirestalker> does anyone know of a way to list the currently installed programs by date last used?
[02:43] <nathanhelp> BlueEagle: Ok fair enough. I'm aware that the computer needs to be on for any of the three HD's to access the TB profile. That's not really a prob, but im looking for ideas on how to set this up. Thanks redvamp128.
[02:43] <EcheloCross> "I fixed my login problem; I had some old versions of libz in /usr/local/lib" (c) Munchkinguy
[02:43] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  there is also a ntfs configuration tool which helps mount and unmount NTFS correctly
[02:44] <nathanhelp> Wow. busy today :)
[02:44] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well, what I would do is to get an old laptop and set it up as an IMAP-server. But that's not what you were asking for. :)
[02:44] <nathanhelp> My email is Pop3 how would i configure it to IMAP? call my ISP/email provider?
[02:44] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  it is labeled ntfs-config and is located under the ntfs-3g
[02:45] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: Well you would have the old laptop fetch it from your isp and provide the imap to your local machines.
[02:45] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: symantic will do?
[02:45] <redvamp128> yes it is there
[02:45] <redvamp128> Enable/disable write support for any NTFS devices
[02:45] <redvamp128> This program allow you to easily configure all of your NTFS devices
[02:45] <redvamp128> to allow write support via a friendly gui.
[02:45] <redvamp128> For that use, it will configure them to use the open source ntfs-3g
[02:45] <redvamp128> driver. You'll also be able to easily disable this feature.
[02:45] <FloodBot1> redvamp128: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:45] <redvamp128> Sorry baout the flood
[02:46] <nathanhelp> how stable is NTFS write nowdays?
[02:46] <redvamp128> Well some say it can write to NTFS for win2k and Xp just fine but sometimes it breaks when writing to Vista or Win7
[02:46] <kao> Out_Cold: Still displays flash content without me clicking on any sort of button, also still crashing =/
[02:47] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: I had datacorruption when copying a large file (>2G) FROM an ntfs-partition to an ext3 partition using the fuse driver. But that's about a year ago.
[02:47] <Out_Cold> kao, it's installed?
[02:47] <nathanhelp> Vista and Win7 are irrelevant to my situation, so i will log that for when I need it. :)
[02:47] <kao> Out_Cold:yes
[02:47] <Out_Cold> then make sure it's enabled in the plug-ins in the browser it's self
[02:47] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  it is more or less to give the ability to copy from NTFS over to Native but still has the possiblilty of data corruption
[02:47] <Gnea> phirestalker: something like this?  find /var/lib/dpkg/info/ -ls | awk '{print $8" " $9" "$10" "$11}' | sed -e 's/\/var\/lib\/dpkg\/info\///g' | sort
[02:48] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: What I would really recomend is to not store the data on an ntfs-partition if it's irreplacable.
[02:48] <nathanhelp> redvamp128, BlueEagle: data corruption. Would that include drivers for XP?
[02:48] <KemrinH> I LOST THE GAME (ILOSTTHEGAME.ORG) ~~ I'm Sorry >_<
[02:48] <Trenter> Question:  My windows partition is gone from the grub boot loader and im freaking out, how do I get my windows partition back in the grub menu??
[02:48] <Gnea> !ot | KemrinH
[02:48]  * nathanhelp ignores KemrinH
[02:48] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  is more or less for large files
[02:49] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  the better work-around is having a fat32 partition for the fileshare between the two
[02:49] <BlueEagle> nathanhelp: There are stable ext2-drivers for windows availible which I find more trustworthy as ext2 and 3 are open standards while any attempt at writing an ntfs-driver will involve some gueswork.
[02:49] <SpaceAceX> Any got a ga-e7aum-ds2h mobo (9400mGPU) , ubuntu 8.04 with working nvidia 180+ drivers?
[02:49] <nomasteryoda> nathanhelp, i've done just that with a fat32 partition between ubuntu and xp
[02:50] <nathanhelp> redvamp128, BlueEagle, How would i go about creating a Fat32 partition from this machine (single boot Ubuntu)
[02:50] <nomasteryoda> made it very easy to put Firefox and thunderbird in that part then they were shared
[02:50] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  I would check the following page for more details -- http://www.ntfs-3g.org
[02:50] <ruckerz> I have an ATI X300SE video card, with compiz/fglrx enabled, totem doesn't display any video?
[02:50] <Out_Cold> kao, if enabling it still doesn't work, try restarting firefox
[02:50] <nathanhelp> thanks redvamp128
[02:50] <Wips> I'm having a really hard time getting some nvidia drivers for my laptop with xubuntu 8.10.. I've tried several things but nothing works so  I'm stuck with the awful resolution
[02:50] <kao> Out_Cold:I have cycled enabling/disabling it 4 times and restarted firefox 6 times
[02:51] <nomasteryoda> nathanhelp, you should boot the live cd and use the partition tool (gparted) to resize and make what you need.
[02:51] <Trenter> Wips:  take a look at envyng
[02:51] <phirestalker> Gnea, is that the install date or the last accessed or executed date?
[02:51] <Out_Cold> hmm... then i'm at a loss mate.. what works on one doesn't always work on the rest..
[02:51] <nathanhelp> nomasteryoda: Could i do that without the Livecd?
[02:51] <Trenter> Question:  I lost my windows paritition from my grub boot loader, can anyone help me?
[02:51] <rww> !envyng | Wips
[02:51] <popcornPanic> can i use an Apple usb mouse in ubuntu?
[02:51] <rww> popcornPanic: yes
[02:51] <rdw200169> popcornPanic, yes, i have; even got it working Bluetooth
[02:51] <Wips> Trenter: I tried it but I just ended up with a stupid error "/usr/share/envy: No such file or directory"
[02:52] <popcornPanic> thanks :D
[02:52] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  that ntfs-config is a better way to enable and disable write to ntfs
[02:52] <kao> Hello, Does anyone have any idea why Firefox crashes every time I view a webpage that has Flash content imbedded within?
[02:52] <Gnea> phirestalker: install date - afaik, there is no 'last accessed' database - takes up too many resources
[02:52] <popcornPanic>  rdw200169: i'm cheap i'll go with usb
[02:52] <WebcamWonder> kao: Flash is unstable
[02:52] <rdw200169> popcornPanic, then it should work automatically
[02:52] <phirestalker> Gnea, oh so THAT's why windows is so slow :P lol
[02:52] <WebcamWonder> kao: Correction, flash was* unstable. It is much better with 10.0
[02:52] <Gnea> phirestalker: it's one of the reasons ;)
[02:52] <kao> WbcamWonder:I have never had this problem when I used to use Dapper Drake.
[02:52] <Gun_Smoke> !grub > Trenter
[02:53] <nathanhelp> I redvamp128, I can't see ntfsconfig or ntfs-3g in the synaptic package manager...
[02:53] <nomasteryoda> nathanhelp, the issue is your root (/) contains the files you are using... and gparted won't let you resize that partition without it running from another partition ... aka ram or a live cd
[02:53] <Trenter> I've read that Gun_Smoke, it dont help me
[02:53] <redvamp128> nathan -- enable restricted
[02:53] <kao> WebcamWonder: Do you have any idea of how I can fix this?
[02:53] <WebcamWonder> kao: What are you running right now?
[02:53] <JesperHansen> How would I investigate this: I have the Ultra Low Voltage Intel Pentium M processor 900 MHz, and its speedstepping 600, 800 and 900 MHz. Only problem is. It doesn't speedstep. The code is in arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.c
[02:53] <kao> WebcamWonder:Hardy Heron
[02:53] <WebcamWonder> !flash | kao
[02:53] <Trenter> I have absolutly no idea what partition it is, I just wanna restore my old grub boot menu!
[02:53] <redvamp128> nathan -- in the search type ntfs
[02:53] <WebcamWonder> kao: I doubt those would be helpful to you
[02:54] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: Done that.
[02:54] <Gun_Smoke> Trenter, well that's isn't going to help much..
[02:54] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: ntfsprogs?
[02:54] <boushley_> connect freenode
[02:54] <EcheloCross> "BlueEagle, so users need to be in the same group as a file to access the file?" (c) mrpinky
[02:54] <JohnWittle> how do I change what desktop manager my system boots up? It is using slim right now, I want it to go back to gdm.
[02:54] <Trenter> How do I find it?  Isnt there a partition manager that can tell me where it is?
[02:54] <WebcamWonder> kao: Flash 10.0 is much stable as compared to 9.0, and hence doesn't crash at all. I haven't had a crash in months
[02:54] <boushley_> \connect freenode
[02:54] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  8.10 or 8.04.2?
[02:54] <Gun_Smoke> Trenter, positive it's there still?  Possible reformatted?
[02:54] <Wips> rww: I tried envyng, but it just gave me a stupid error: "/usr/bin/envyng: line 6: cd: /usr/share/envy: No such file or directory"
[02:54] <kao> WebcamWonder:I already have flash installed and it seems to only cause problems with more advanced Flash applications
[02:54] <nathanhelp> 8.10
[02:54] <kao> WebcamWonder:How do I know which version I have installed currently?
[02:54] <Trenter> It didn't, I updated the freaking linux kernel and it removed my windows partition from the grub boot menu
[02:55] <Trenter> I didn't ask it to
[02:55] <WebcamWonder> kao: Any flash movie, right click and it should show, About Flash Player 7/8/9/10
[02:55] <Wips> rww: And according to envyng's homepage there's supposed an interface-versjon somewhere in the menu, but I can't find it
[02:55] <Trenter> I updated my ubuntu 8.10 system and its gone
[02:55] <mrpinky> noooooo! i added a line to /etc/sudoers and now i need to remove it, but i get "Sorry, user nbingham is not allowed to execute '/usr/sbin/visudo' as root on nbingham.".... any help? :)
[02:55] <jrib> mrpinky: reboot and select "recovery mode" from the grub menu
[02:55] <kao> WebcamWonder:Firefox Reports FlashPlayer 9
[02:56] <mrpinky> jrib, okay i go try that now, thanks
[02:56] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- ntfs <http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ntfs&amp;searchon=names&amp;suite=intrepid&amp;section=all>
[02:56] <Trenter> Gun_Smoke I need a partition manager to look at my drive, but i know of none in ubuntu, i need my windows partition back
[02:56] <Takmadeus> Greetings!
[02:56] <wobbly> how I get online with kppp in kubuntu
[02:56] <Takmadeus> Please, please I have a most compromising problem
[02:56] <Takmadeus> installed yesterday's updates but, but...
[02:56] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  and for the ntfs-config -- Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- ntfs-config <http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=ntfs-config&amp;searchon=names&amp;suite=intrepid&amp;section=all>
[02:56] <Meshezabeel> I have a file under /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ called tcp_window_scaling , but when I do a "locate tcp_window_scaling" it doesn't find the file, any ideas why?
[02:56] <zhengjunmeng> ??
[02:57] <Takmadeus> I did a shutdown instead of rebot
[02:57] <kao> WebcamWonder:trying to sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree returns Already Newest Version
[02:57] <Gun_Smoke> Trenter, df -T will tell you what partition your windows install is on.  And then you'll need to read about grub and let it know about it.
[02:57] <Takmadeus> and now I only get a crc error system halt error
[02:57] <nathanhelp> redvamp128: What is FUSE?
[02:57] <zhengjunmeng> ??
[02:57] <WebcamWonder> kao: Flash 10 hasn't been included in the hardy updates, nor it is in the backports from what I can see
[02:57] <thief`> Trenter, are you saying it deleted your winders partition? or you just can't boot to winders now?
[02:57] <redvamp128> !fuse | nathanhelp:
[02:57] <NotSure> what distro to put on my 2nd partition.. I have kubuntu and xp  looking for the difference between kde 4.1 and the new   Is it worth upgrading
[02:58] <WebcamWonder> kao: You would need to manually install 10, which is again not supported on this channel
[02:58] <_2> can someone explain why permission on a users home dir would affect whether ssh public keys work or dont work?
[02:58] <nathanhelp> >.<
[02:58] <Takmadeus> oh, what to do with this crc error - system halt error?
[02:58] <kao> WebcamWonder:Thank you for pointing me in the direction of Flash X. I will google for instructions :P
[02:58] <laughyn1nj4> any thoughts out there on partitioning a laptop's hd for dual boot?  i can't get grub installed and so i'm starting over ... should i partition BEFORE installing anything?  if so, how?
[02:59] <LeeM1> hey guys.. new ubuntu user.. I am trying to install Java but synaptic is taking a reallllllllllllly long time
[02:59] <WebcamWonder> kao: There are tons and tons of pages with their own custom home-brew script to do that :). Best of luck :P
[02:59] <Out_Cold> _2 if someone wants to access your comp using a key that is 'owned' by you, the computer won't allow them to access the file
[02:59] <_2> laughyn1nj4 why can't you get grub installed ?
[02:59] <kao> WebcamWoner: Thank you again :)
[02:59] <Takmadeus> Oh my God..... crc error - system halt!
[02:59] <_2> laughyn1nj4 and have you tried grub2 ?
[02:59] <nathanhelp> !ntfs-3g
[02:59] <NotSure> Is it worth upgrading to...   Is the taskbar fully configurable?  I dont like the 4.1 kde taskbar. I cant move things where I want them.. Can I in 4.2?
[02:59] <laughyn1nj4> i follow the instructions on ubuntu's site, but i get errors and can't continue on to the next step because of said errors
[03:00] <_2> Out_Cold i didn't say $HOME/.ssh or $HOME/.ssh/*  just plain $HOME   which doesn't make sense to me.
[03:00] <Takmadeus> halp!
[03:00] <NotSure> Is anyone using Kubuntu 4.2 here?
[03:01] <WebcamWonder> NotSure: #kubuntu
[03:01] <Barridus> hi all, i notice there is a kernel update.  that's not something i shoult just do all willy-nilly is it?  what should i check/read up on before deciding if i want it?
[03:01] <LeeM1> any ideas why my java download in synaptic is taking so long?
[03:01] <qtwre> Hello all, I have an interesting problem.  When I boot, the ubuntu splash shows and once the bar reaches the end, it goes to a command line login screen.  after typing 'startx' it tell me my filesystem is read-only
[03:02] <zumz> LeeM1: java is big, 50- megs at least
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: Unless you have drivers compiled yourself, or something done yourself that makes your programs dependent on the current kernel, it is very rarely the case that a kernel upgrade breaks anything
[03:02] <nathanhelp> I'm scared. The Ubuntu site says to Sudo fdisk -1. But fdisk is a formatter!
[03:02] <LeeM1> but an hour and a half on dsl?
[03:02] <Meshezabeel> Meshezabeel: the reason you can't find your file with the "locate" command is because /etc/updatedb.conf is 'pruning' some of your files. Edit this file and it will work the way you want.
[03:02] <milos_> LeeM1, java is huge and your connection is slow
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: sudo fdisk -l, just lists all the partitions
[03:02] <macman> guys .. i want to do a md5 checksum on an iso .. how do i do this ?
[03:02] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: So why does it need sudo?
[03:02] <thief`> Trenter,  grub is easy to fix... if that's all you need to do.
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> macman: md5sum /path/to/file
[03:02] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: It needs the sudo permissions to read the partition table off the harddisk
[03:02] <laughyn1nj4> macman ... i think it's md5sum /path/to/iso.iso
[03:03] <webterror> i want to try for ubuntu install like Gentoo Compile.
[03:03] <Barridus> WebcamWonder,  hmm, good point.  i think i'm using wifi drivers (madwifi or something) that i compiled
[03:03] <EcheloCross> "BlueEagle, ah depends on the permissions :) i get it" (c) mrpinky
[03:03] <Gun_Smoke> webterror, why?  just use gentoo then
[03:03] <webterror> howto work in ubuntu?
[03:03] <mrpinky> hey, i was mucking around with "/etc/sudoers" and now every time i try to sudo i get "nbingham is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported."... how to get it back :)
[03:04] <Barridus> can a kernel update be undone?  or is it a total pain in the rear?
[03:04] <laughyn1nj4> mrpinky ... un-toy your sudoers file
[03:04] <bruwstout> lkj
[03:04] <mrpinky> laughyn1nj4, i added one line at the end, then removed the same line so it should be un-toyed. however i removed the line using nano not visudo.. should that affect it?
[03:04] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: Your current kernel is untouched (for the most part). You can actually choose to go back to a previous kernel from grub. But I would advice to do some reading on kernel modules, and upgrade before doing so
[03:05] <Gun_Smoke> mrpinky, man sudoers
[03:05] <qtwre> can anyone think of why my filesystem is suddenly read-only, causing ubuntu to fail to boot?
[03:05] <Steven_M> hi all
[03:05] <webterror> no~ i don't like install from ubuntu install CD
[03:05] <laughyn1nj4> hmm .. not sure if su or sudo had a daemon or not ... if so restarting may help
[03:05] <enao1290> is there a command similar to ls -l that lists file sizes?
[03:05] <laughyn1nj4> ls -h
[03:05] <WebcamWonder> enao1290: ls -s :)
[03:05] <nathanhelp> What about ubuntu writing to Fat32? is that stable as well?
[03:05] <mrpinky> Gun_Smoke, okay :)
[03:06] <Barridus> WebcamWonder, solid advice.  i have no idea where to start.  this is my first (potential) kernel update since i installed and caught up to the updates
[03:06] <laughyn1nj4> any thoughts our there on partitioning for dual boot?
[03:06] <_2> laughyn1nj4 ah, fairly new to linux are you?   anyway to answer your origenal question.   i would suggest giving M$ the first primary partition, and size adaquite space for the os and any needed data ntfs. then give linux the next, whether primary or extended doesn't matter, with enough space for the system and a little slack (7g maybe) ext3, then the next partition for your user data and configs (mountpoint = /home) ext3, and maybe
[03:06] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[03:08] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: To be fair, I have to recompile my nVidia drivers on every kernel upgrade. And during the recompiling process, my X (gui) cannot start because the kernel modules are built against an old one :)
[03:08] <Steven_M> everytime I try to apt-get update I get this result. http://pastebin.com/d148bd853
[03:08] <laughyn1nj4> yea the whole mounting of partitions thing is a bit mysterious for me.  why would one mmount an entire partition to the /home dir anyway?
[03:08] <nathanhelp> >.< why does moving to Ubuntu require me to become a programmer? i dont understand half the things I read.
[03:09] <LeeM1> it's fun learning :D this is my 3rd hour on ubuntu lol
[03:09] <Out_Cold> if i am required to add a <output file> to a command, how do i make it just apear as STDOUT?
[03:09] <laughyn1nj4> natanhelp: i'm a programmer and i'm getting somewhere with linux...but not very fast.  :-D
[03:09] <_2> nathanhelp why does installing M$ windows require you to accept the EULA you don't understand those things either
[03:09] <LeeM1> still kinda ticked that my downloads are so slow in syntapic tho
[03:09] <milos_> nathanhelp, for example
[03:09] <nathanhelp> laughyn1nj4: I'm not a programmer and I am getting a headache. _2 Who reads teh EULA?
[03:09] <rodolfo> hey! does anybodu here uses avant-windw-navigator?
[03:09] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, it is a good idea to mount /home to a diff partition - though yo udont have to.
[03:09] <milos_> nathanhelp, i'm programer :)
[03:09] <bruwstout> nathanhelp and laughynj4:  It will grow on you
[03:10] <therootest> hello. Can someone help me install the compiz cube in kubuntu 8.0.4?
[03:10] <nathanhelp> I hope so.
[03:10] <bruwstout> and allow you to be more in tune with the OS
[03:10] <thief`> nathanhelp, i know what you mean, but it's a learning process... keep at it.
[03:10] <laughyn1nj4> bruwstout ... it's growing !
[03:10] <rodolfo> i can't kill the gnome-panel is there any option in AWN that does the job?
[03:10] <_2> nathanhelp if you don't then you are a liar  because clicking the "i accept" button says you did read and understand and accept it.
[03:10] <laughyn1nj4> why is mounting a seprate partition to /home such a great idea?
[03:10] <LeeM1> i work for a small it company.. learning some linux for my role.. that and my xp crapped out and I didn't want to deal with it any more
[03:10] <thief`> i've spent three hours now trying to install vmware... - my kernel is a bitch.
[03:10] <WebcamWonder> laughyn1nj4: Keeps your data safe/intact over OS re-installs
[03:10] <orbstra> hey can ubuntu mount osx formated partitions
[03:10] <laughyn1nj4> it's the WHY i'm after, i've heard enough of the WHAT
[03:10] <bruwstout> I'm in the same boat ... almost need my engineering background to keep up
[03:10] <MethinX> !ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:10] <nathanhelp> _2 yup. I'm a lier. Actually I'm not. I read that im not allowed to revers engineer it then my eyes glazed over.
[03:10] <_2> laughyn1nj4 because you can reinstall without loosing data
[03:10] <thief`> rodolfo, there is a cmd to kill the gnome panels
[03:11] <On0bi_> does ubuntu work on laptops?
[03:11] <WebcamWonder> On0bi_: Yes
[03:11] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, it's mainly to keep it apart, it's from the old days really... it's not need if yo have a huge HD
[03:11] <laughyn1nj4> this assumes that all data is under /home.
[03:11] <hobo> Quick question: Has anyone tried or knows how to get emerald working a virtual machine?
[03:11] <rodolfo> and what is this command?
[03:11] <bruwstout> ubuntu works great on laptops
[03:11] <On0bi_> WebcamWonder: well? or is it unstable?
[03:11] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, it's from when you might have had home on one hd and the other sys files on a diff hd.
[03:11] <_2> laughyn1nj4 most of it will be
[03:11] <laughyn1nj4> some of my data (multimedia actually) is in my samba shares which are not under home
[03:11] <nathanhelp> _2 I would say that 99% of MS users are liars according to your statement :D
[03:11] <laughyn1nj4> actuall MOST of the data is in the samba shares
[03:12] <thief`> orbstra, yes, it can read osx.
[03:12] <_2> nathanhelp i agree
[03:12] <RedSox> is there anybody here who can give some step-by-step tips to install compiz cube?
[03:12] <Barridus> WebcamWonder, i have an intel graphics board.  and to be honest, i have no idea how the drivers work.  they just did on install.  nothing is listed in "hardware drivers", but opengl works
[03:12] <WebcamWonder> On0bi_: Working well for many many people. Although there are specific models where hibernate and all power features don't work, so you should google your model number to see how much it is supported
[03:12] <_2> nathanhelp i was an M$ user until i actually read an EULA
[03:12] <laughyn1nj4> so perhaps my samba shares should be on a separate partition.  NOW i get it ! ;-)
[03:12] <mrpinky> hey, i executed "usermod -G admin nbingham" to add myself to the "admin" group, but 1) it seems to have removed all my other groups, and 2) after i reboot it reverted my membership to what it was before i executed the command :( any tips?
[03:12] <RedSox> is there anybody here who can give some step-by-step tips to install compiz cube?
[03:12] <thief`> laughyn1nj4, all your 'my docs' is under /home
[03:12] <bruwstout> install compizconfig-setting-manager
[03:12] <bruwstout> then open and go into options
[03:12] <RedSox> bruwstout was that for me?
[03:12] <_2> laughyn1nj4 so you asked for suggestions, i gave you one.
[03:12] <thief`> and if in nautilus, you hit ctrl-h you'll see hidden files. it's rally just like yer my docs in winders
[03:13] <orbstra> so if I connect my osx formated external HD to my ubuntu server... can I access it with the regular mount command?? I am connecting to my server wtih CLI through ssh
[03:13] <rodolfo> thief` and what is this command?
[03:13] <Barridus> WebcamWonder, i did work with a nvidia board previously, and my experiences then matched yours
[03:13] <WebcamWonder> Barridus: Intel drivers are nice, they work. They aren't a proprietary blob like nVidia. You won't loose them over kernel upgrades :)
[03:13] <redvamp128> RedSox:  try this site Forlong's Blog - I'm trying to comprehend the things I write <http://forlong.blogage.de/en>
[03:13] <suci_ANA_riskian> haiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[03:13] <bruwstout> yes
[03:13] <LeeM1> i've beel looking.. can you turn on and off showing when people log in and out?
[03:13] <laughyn1nj4> _2 .. much appreciated.!
[03:13] <redvamp128> RedSox:  That site at the bottom has a link to a guide on how to configure the cube and how to work compiz
[03:13] <nathanhelp> redvamp128, BlueEagle, Whats the difference between Using Samba, and ntfs-3g? Can I not just use Samba to access the shared folders on Windows? or am I mis-connecting things?
[03:13] <lstarnes> LeeM1: some clients can do that
[03:13] <thief`> orbstra, taht i don't know. but i know it can read osx format. or you can  get a fs that can easily.
[03:13] <RedSox> redvamp128 thnx a lot brother
[03:13] <LeeM1> im using pidgin
[03:14] <lstarnes> LeeM1: as far as I know, pidgin can't
[03:14] <Giraffe> hey, i'm trying to get wireless working on a laptop with an ar242x atheros chipset...networkmanager doesn't let me connect (the connect button is greyed out) and wicd just won't connect.  what gives?
[03:14] <LeeM1> rawr :(
[03:14] <orbstra> thief` : fs?
[03:14] <thief`> filesystem
[03:14] <WebcamWonder> LeeM1: I think there was a plugin to do that, but I don't remember. #pidgin would be a better source
[03:14] <nathanhelp> LeeM1: You can in WinXP pidgin. but im not sure where in Ubuntu
[03:14] <thief`> like one called ntfs-g that reads windows.
[03:14] <thief`> there'd be one for mac - if it's needed.
[03:14] <orbstra> oh i got ya thief`
[03:14] <orbstra> thnx bud
[03:14] <redvamp128> RedSox:  It is almost at the middle of the page about configure compiz-- but a good guide as well as some good links --
[03:15] <thief`> i've been using linux since november - and look at what i know now?
[03:15] <RedSox> ok redvamp128 tysm
[03:15] <thief`> haha
[03:15] <thief`> see, you can learn.
[03:15] <thief`> a lot of reading - that's what's needed.
[03:15] <Gustavo_G_> I need to install the lzo2 development library. Any suggestions?
[03:15] <thief`> and time.
[03:15] <laughyn1nj4> so if i want to backup an entire partition (using tar) and it's mounted at /samba, do i just backup the /samba or is there a better way to do it?
[03:15] <nathanhelp> thief`: Thats my problem. I have 3 kids, a preggy wife, and a two storey house to look after. I dont have a lot of time :D
[03:15] <redvamp128> nathanhelp:  I am not sure if samba will default let you write to ntfs-- but does not hurt to have both installed
[03:15] <_2> so does anyone know why ssh would check permission of $HOME before deciding whether or not to use public keys form $HOME/.ssh/authorized_keys  ?
[03:16] <MethinX>  what i need to do is replace a windows domain controller with a ubuntu comp, will samba have this ability?
[03:16] <thief`> nathanhelp, i found, if i just ran progs like firefox and open office... and didn't really do much, i had  NO probs, but when you try to do things - like change thins, that's wherr eyou gottaa learn how.
[03:16] <jrib> _2: don't you think that makes sense?
[03:16] <tomodachi> MethinX: what kind of window domain controller?
[03:16] <Steven_M> everytime I try to apt-get update I get this result. http://pastebin.com/d148bd853
[03:16] <tomodachi> nt, 2k ,r 2k3
[03:16] <_2> jrib no not at all
[03:16] <MethinX> windows server 2003
[03:16] <_2> why should it /
[03:16] <_2> ?
[03:17] <thief`> MethinX, huge corps. use linux for that. so yes. but i don't know how.
[03:17] <tomodachi> MethinX: i think i depends on what features you use in your win2k3 domain controller
[03:17] <tomodachi> im not really skilled in the subject
[03:17] <tomodachi> but last time i checked samba server could replace a nt4 domain controller
[03:17] <tomodachi> but that was some time ago
[03:17] <nomasteryoda> tomodachi, that is true
[03:17] <BigDaddy-LA> HilBilly
[03:17] <_2> jrib if the user owns the ~/.ssh  and it's accessable only by the user than what does the permission on ~ have to do with anything ?
[03:17] <nomasteryoda> jsut not the active directory server
[03:18] <thief`> Steven_M, your keys are bad.
[03:18] <thief`> del them.
[03:18] <MethinX> ok thanks
[03:18] <laughyn1nj4> ahem rm them
[03:18] <thief`> or use synaptic, there is options in there to screw with the keys.
[03:18] <thief`> type sudo synaptic
[03:18] <bruwstout> wouldnt it be rm -rf
[03:18] <WebcamWonder> thief`: gksu for graphical please :)
[03:18] <kindofabuzz> how do i make a sym link to folders in a folder but not the main folder?
[03:19] <thief`> what really does that do? i've done both...
[03:19] <thief`> heh
[03:19] <_2> jrib or said another way, it makes about as much sense to me as it checking the perms on  / would.
[03:19] <WebcamWonder> !gksu | thief`
[03:19] <Brohana> How would I disable having to have permission to write a file?
[03:19] <thief`> hmmm
[03:19] <laughyn1nj4> Brohana:use windows
[03:19] <Out_Cold> Brohana, change the permissions to 777
[03:20] <thief`> 777 is full control.
[03:20] <Brohana> Alright
[03:20] <thief`> 555 is read and execute isn't it?
[03:20] <Steven_M> thief`: what would cause that, I didn't do anything to them?
[03:21] <thief`> chmod 555 filename?
[03:21] <Gustavo_G_> I am trying to install the lzo2 development library but am not sure how to proceed. Any suggestions?
[03:21] <Steven_M> thief`: yes it is
[03:21] <thief`> WebcamWonder, when i do that, i get this every time... i do'nt think it's a problem really, but what do you tink?
[03:21] <thief`> (gedit:7025): Gtk-WARNING **: Theme directory scalable/animations/small/22x22 of theme default.kde4 has no size field
[03:21] <mrpinky> hi, i accidentally removed my "admin" group membership, so i booted into recovery mode and root console, then i used "adduser nbingham admin" to get my admin back, and i check that it is correcly applied with "id nbingham". but when i restart, i have different group memberships (not including admin). any clues? :(
[03:21] <Out_Cold> thief`, read up about on permission numbers... keep yourself as a 6 or 7 and change the rest to 5,6 or 7
[03:21] <Taladan> hey, looking for suggestions for FOSS web-based business managment software...something that can do Point of Sale, work orders, accounts receivable/payable, general ledger, etc.
[03:21] <rodolfo> thief` could you tell me what command makes gnome-panel disappear please?
[03:21] <thief`> yeah, i know what ya mean Out_Cold
[03:21] <tomodachi> hmm Taladan maybe salesforce.com is something?
[03:21] <WebcamWonder> thief`: That is just a theme icon mismatch. It is fine
[03:21] <mrpinky> Taladan, webERP (small and nice) or Compiere (bloated)
[03:21] <thief`> i don't really screw with perms. just for me  trusty pr0n dir.
[03:21] <thief`> haha
[03:21] <tomodachi> havent looked on crm systems for quite some time ..
[03:22]  * Taladan looks
[03:22] <thief`> yeah, thought so... dumb error ( i have an eee so my fonts / icons are tiny)
[03:22] <try2free> my local systems can't access the Internet after shorewall clear. and restart. how to fix that? before that everything ok.
[03:22] <Taladan> I've looked at nolapro a bit, and it's nice, but I want to 'shop around' as it were
[03:22] <laughyn1nj4> that's one dir i keep private 700, thief
[03:22] <thief`> hahah
[03:22] <thief`> yep.
[03:22] <Out_Cold> thief`, i have had servers and ssh boxes that i've needed to change several permissions.. it's really a good thing to learn if anyone other than yourself has access to your comp
[03:22] <mrpinky> cmon i don't want to reinstall ubuntu just because i can't get my admin membership back :( please help me :)
[03:22] <bruwstout> that is the folder i encrypt
[03:23] <thief`> Out_Cold, thing with me (for now at least) is - i'm theonly one even close to my pruter that has  a clue about linux.
[03:23] <WebcamWonder> TrueCrypt with triple cascading cipher FTW!
[03:23] <thief`> Out_Cold,  my /pr0n is hidden as well. just in case lil nephew comes along and finds nautilus... hahah
[03:23] <therootest> I have installed the compiz but the cube wont work. Can someone please help me?
[03:23] <Taladan> mrpinky: you deleted admin group?
[03:24] <Natali> hi
[03:24] <tomodachi> therootest: how does it not work?
[03:24] <Taladan> our just removed user from membership?
[03:24] <TheFunkbomb> Where are the default GDMs (log in screens) stored?
[03:24] <thief`> mrpinky, why do you think you lost admin?
[03:24] <Out_Cold> yea like i said, one user, who cares..
[03:24] <zumz> mrpinky: live cd and edit it?
[03:24] <nathanhelp> ok Basic question. Lets say (for real example that i can learn off) I dont have ntfs-3g in my synaptic list. I have the website however and I want to install the ntfs-3g drivers. Whats the difference between Source and Binary? (both sound the same to me).
[03:24] <tomodachi> therootest: have you installed compizconfig settings manager?
[03:24] <tomodachi> therootest:  your need to enable the cube there
[03:24] <thief`> i'd think losing root would be hard to do.
[03:24] <therootest> tomodachi: i have everything installed from adept. Then i open CCSM and choose the cube and the rotating cube effects.
[03:24] <ghostdog21> hi@all
[03:25] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: You would have to compile the entire driver yourself. Compiling is a pain, and most of the time dependency hell
[03:25] <mrpinky> thief` because when i do "id" it doesn't include admin :(
[03:25] <therootest> tomodachi: and then it just doesnt do anything!
[03:25] <macman> .. guys i tried to do a md5sum on a iso and it said : No such file or directory .. any ideas ?
[03:25] <Spreadsheet> ghostdog21: this is one of the most active channels in all of irc
[03:25] <tomodachi> there are several cube plugins maybe youre using the wrong one? or you dont have any keys assigned to the action
[03:25] <ghostdog21> sorry, but i've a problem anyone time 4 helping me?!
[03:25] <mrpinky> zumz, but edit what...? i checked my /etc/group and "admin:x:115:nbingham" is in there :( it just doesn't appear when i "id" myself :(
[03:25] <Taladan> mrpinky: go into recovery and edit /etc/group
[03:25] <Spreadsheet> macman: maybe put the right path to the file? ;)
[03:25] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: What does that mean? what is compiling? Please explain as clearly as you can, I'm trying to learn but theres a lot to take in.
[03:25] <_2>  octal permission structure   each three digit base two  number is represented as   rwx = 111_2 = 7_8   and the three digit (actually four digit) octal permission is  (special)(owner)(group)(world)  normally the first digit is not mentioned = 0      0755   normal dir perms default   0644  normal file perms default for data   0755 normal file perms default for executables
[03:25] <macman> i was in teh same directory Spreadsheet
[03:25] <laughyn1nj4> macman: do you have md5sum installed?  md5sum --version
[03:26] <Spreadsheet> what is the name of the ISO
[03:26] <macman> yes
[03:26] <Taladan> mrpinky: add your username after admin:x:<number>:<user>
[03:26] <zumz> well wasnt it sudoers file you edited before?
[03:26] <Taladan> hm
[03:26] <laughyn1nj4> then try again...you proly typed thge path wrong
[03:26] <macman> laughyn1nj4 its version 3
[03:26] <draeday_> hey everytime i'm playing music with listen it freezes and i dont know y
[03:26] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Sure. The source, is the source code itself (what developers write). It is then compiled (machine code - something computers can read/understand) into a binary
[03:26] <TheEdge_> i am using Mplayer  put when ever i play a dvd i can't use ctrl+m  nothing happens.. also when I click a menu button in the picture nothing happens
[03:27] <TheFunkbomb> Where are the default GDMs stored?
[03:27] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Binaries are highly platform dependent (so, a binary for a 32bit OS will mostof the time not work with 64 bit OS)
[03:27] <tomodachi> TheEdge_: what is ctrl m supposed to do?
[03:27] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder:  so a binary file are the ones i want to download?
[03:27] <orbstra> hey how do I unmount the USB drive i just mounted in ubuntu linux thruogh CLI
[03:27] <macman> no good
[03:27] <mrpinky> Taladan, my username is already there "admin:x:115:nbingham" :( but after i tried to add myself to a group with usermod, "id" no longer shows membership to any groups except the one i tried to add, i lost "admin" group as far as "id" is concerned :( but still have it as far as "/etc/group" is concerned
[03:27] <tomodachi> orbstra: sudo umount /medaia/nameofyourdevice
[03:27] <thief`> mrpinky, what  does it say your uid is?
[03:27] <nathanhelp> binary for the Ubuntu x86 platform?
[03:27] <Spreadsheet> macman: $ ls
[03:27] <_2> TheFunkbomb /etc/gdm/
[03:27] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: In order to solve the pain that is caused by compiling (trust me it is a pain if things don't work out properly), Ubuntu gives many many softwares as binaries tailored to your OS
[03:27] <mrpinky> thief`, "id" says uid=1000
[03:28] <TheFunkbomb> _2, that makes sense
[03:28] <TheEdge_> tomodachi: it should send you to the DVD menu
[03:28] <supernoob> the other day a friend put some  music on my MP3 player, but he put it in random folders accidentally. How can I compare the difference in folders on my mp3 player with my main laptop music folder?
[03:28] <thief`> mrpinky,  i'm no expert but i believe 1000 is root
[03:28] <tomodachi> TheEdge_: open it in terminal
[03:28] <therootest> tomodachi: i have the plugins thing installed from the adept manager. It cant be the wrong cube. And the hotkeys are OK. I think the problem is that compiz is not my default windows manager and i dont know how to make it default.
[03:28] <thief`> my uid is 1000
[03:28] <TheFunkbomb> awesome name by the way.  It's really you
[03:28] <tomodachi> and see what the std out logging says
[03:28] <thief`> mrpinky, i believe 1000 is the first user created at install.
[03:28] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Yes, but it is much more preffered that you get the packages from Ubuntu repositories since they have been tested by many many peopl
[03:28] <lstarnes> thief`: root is either 0
[03:28] <_2> thief` uid = 0  is superuser
[03:28] <lstarnes> er, without the either
[03:28] <mrpinky> thief`, that would make sense, i only have one account, which i created at install.
[03:28] <TheEdge_> tomodachi: Mplayer ??
[03:29] <tomodachi> TheEdge_: yes
[03:29] <thief`> mrpinky, ok, then type sudo id
[03:29] <tomodachi> open a terminal
[03:29] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: Ok. I have no ntfs-3g in my accessible list. Restricted is enabled. what else can i do to access them?
[03:29] <Taladan> mrpinky: I'm not sure then dude...afaik that's the file that determines group membership
[03:29] <tomodachi> then open gmplayer from there
[03:29] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: What version of ubuntu are you runnning?
[03:29] <TheEdge_> tomodachi: who do i do that.. only been using Linux/ubuntu for 2 days now
[03:29] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: 8.10
[03:29] <_2> thief` uid = 1000 ~ ?   is the normal user range, as specified in some config in /etc
[03:29] <mrpinky> thief`, "sudo id" tells me "nbingham is not in the sudoers file", which also makes sense, because i don't seem to have "admin" group membership
[03:29] <supernoob> need some help
[03:30] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: Gnome.
[03:30] <supernoob> i think i need a synchronizing program or something
[03:30] <supernoob> the other day a friend put some  music on my MP3 player, but he put it in random folders accidentally. How can I compare the difference in folders on my mp3 player with my main laptop music folder?
[03:30] <tomodachi> TheEdge_:  applications -accessories - terminal
[03:30] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: You should have ntfs-3g :S
[03:30] <thief`> mrpinky, hmm, i see what you mean now.
[03:30] <tomodachi> TheEdge_:  locate gmplayer with
[03:30] <WebcamWonder> !info ntfs-3g
[03:30] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: I know i should have them but i dont. Or am looking in the wrong place.
[03:30] <tomodachi> whereis gmplayer
[03:30] <tomodachi> then type the path
[03:30] <mrpinky> thief`, i can edit /etc/groups or memberships by restarting into recovery console. but the changes i make don't seem to persist when i restart :(
[03:31] <tomodachi> mrpinky: are you logged in as root when you do them?
[03:31] <therootest> tomodachi: the compiz i runned in terminal as root showed:
[03:31] <therootest> Couldn't find a perfect decorator match; trying all decorators
[03:31] <therootest> Starting kde-window-decorator
[03:31] <thief`> tomodachi, he can't get root.
[03:31] <Taladan> mrpinky: try rebuilding your user account in recovery and add that new account to sudoers?
[03:31] <TheEdge_> tomodachi: i know  :)   but how do i start mplayer via terminal
[03:31] <mrpinky> tomodachi, yes i restart in recovery console and choose the "root prompt" option
[03:31] <thief`> tomodachi, "sudo id" tells me "nbingham is not in the sudoers file"  - he said.
[03:31] <tomodachi> thief`: ok
[03:31] <orbstra> what if it says the file is in use that I am trying to eject tomodachi
[03:31] <tomodachi> well if he starts in recovery he should be root
[03:31] <nathanhelp> WebcamWonder: I'm going to try closing my synaptic and trying some install from terminal in case they are IN the repo, but not on my list for some reason.
[03:32] <_2> mrpinky just restart into recovery mode and use the command useradd    man useradd   for details
[03:32] <tomodachi> orbstra:  then you have something open using it close your apps terminals etc
[03:32] <thief`> The_Rebel, type totem in the terminal - works great.
[03:32] <The_Rebel> thanks for the tip thief`
[03:32] <tomodachi> orbstra: you can se whats using it with lsof in terminal
[03:32] <MTecknology> I'm trying to install something. I altered the configs and tried to wipe it off my system so I could do a clean install of the package but it doesn't restore configs....
[03:32] <orbstra> tomodachi : I am doing it thruogh cli
[03:32] <tomodachi> orbstra: you might have to grep it
[03:32] <thief`> sorry, that was supposed to be to TheEdge_
[03:32] <thief`> haha
[03:32] <mrpinky> _2, i have done that, and it adds, and i see the admin group when i "id" that account, then when i restart that group is gone :(
[03:32] <orbstra> the folder is /mnt/usb so I am doing lsof | grep usb
[03:32] <WebcamWonder> nathanhelp: Synaptic and the terminal read one and the same list, there is no difference. I haven't worked with Intrepid, but on hardy, they do show up as an extra package. I presuem they are now directly integrated into the kernel somehow
[03:32] <InevGlitch> Anybody familiar with the nvidia geforce fx 5600
[03:33] <orbstra> and a bunch of things are using it tomodachi how do I close them
[03:33] <tomodachi> orbstra:  you can always do sud umount -l
[03:33] <TheEdge_> thief:  thanks   :)
[03:33] <tomodachi> do to a lazy unmount
[03:33] <tomodachi> to do
[03:33] <orbstra> what would that do tomodachi
[03:33] <tomodachi> orbstra: if you cant find them apps kill them
[03:33] <mrpinky> unless there are other ideas, i will back up my home directory and try to delete/recreate the user account from root console :( back later
[03:33] <thief`> TheEdge_, i installed vlc, but i don't use it  cause i don't need to cause totem works well ( for movies)
[03:33] <Taladan> mrpinky: that's what I would do
[03:33] <Natali> helo
[03:34] <tomodachi> thief`: totem sucks
[03:34] <mrpinky> Taladan, okay, thanks :)
[03:34] <thief`> tomodachi, but it works.
[03:34] <tomodachi> thief`:  but if youre happy then use it
[03:34] <tomodachi> :)
[03:34] <_2> mrpinky </blinks>   should work.   drastic but affective
[03:34] <Out_Cold> isn't there a sudoers list? apart from /etc/groups?
[03:34] <thief`> tomodachi, i know what you mean though.
[03:34] <tomodachi> thief`: unsexy girls also work , but you want sexy ones right?!
[03:34] <thief`> tomodachi, do you meean the qual of video sucks? or what about it that sucks?
[03:34] <orbstra> i am trying to kill the process I thnk are associated with the HD but they wont go away even after I kill their suspected pid
[03:34] <InevGlitch> lol @ tomodachi
[03:34] <TheEdge_> libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device.  i can see this error in the terminal when try to play dvd
[03:34] <tomodachi> thief`: support for codecs
[03:34] <h4x0r> HELLO EVERYONE
[03:34] <tomodachi> etc
[03:34] <mrpinky> Out_Cold, there is /etc/sudoers, but my account is not there directly. /etc/sudoers gives the "admin" group sudo access, and my account should be in the "admin" group
[03:34] <orbstra> is the pid the first 5 digit number from the left when you do lsof | grep usb
[03:35] <n2diy> A buddy of mine has seen the light, and has agreed to let me install Ubuntu on his box. He want's to dual boot with XP Home Ed. His box is AFU, so I want to do a "bare metal" install on the drive. Are there any guides/Howtos on this?
[03:35] <orbstra> usb being the folder associated with my mounetd HD
[03:35] <tomodachi> mrpinky: you should belong to the adm group under /etc/group
[03:35] <Out_Cold> yea.. i remember doing something in there...
[03:35] <mrpinky> tomodachi, "adm" or "admin"?
[03:35] <tomodachi> mrpinky: lemme check
[03:35] <_2> mrpinky admin
[03:35] <tomodachi> mrpinky: adm
[03:35] <_2> iirc adm was the old way  and admin is the new way
[03:35] <nickrud> tomodachi, admin :)
[03:35] <Out_Cold> yea adm
[03:36] <h4x0r> n2diy what i can tell you use ubuntu and the open source apps.  and you will forget about windows
[03:36] <jrib> tie-breaker: admin
[03:36] <_2> :)
[03:36] <tomodachi> _2: im using 8.10 , im in the group adm
[03:36] <nickrud> jrib, nah, you're just piling on the good side
[03:36] <jrib> tomodachi: but that's not why you can sudo
[03:36] <thief`> tomodachi, i play a lot of xvid / divx and they work great...
[03:36] <_2> tomodachi did you clean install or upgrade ?
[03:36] <n2diy> h4x0r: I forgot about Windows 7 years ago, this is for my buddy, and the question was, how to do a bare metal install?
[03:36] <tomodachi> jrib: yes it is
[03:36] <thief`> tomodachi, do you mean screwy ones like mkv and ogg and crap?
[03:37] <mrpinky> how do i find out what my ubuntu version is? the about box doesn't appear to have it :(
[03:37] <jrib> tomodachi: read your /etc/sudoers
[03:37] <tomodachi> jrib: the adm group is in the sudoers file
[03:37] <ardchoille> !version
[03:37] <InevGlitch> Quick question:, In general, can I expect more hardware to work better with 8.04 than with 8.10 ?
[03:37] <nickrud> tomodachi, you shouldn't argue with jrib, he actually does development in ubuntu
[03:37] <_2> tomodachi but did you clean install or upgrade ?
[03:37] <h4x0r> google it! you will find a nice tutorial
[03:37] <tomodachi> jrib: its called %admin in the sudoers file, i guess thats a variable or something not the exact name
[03:37] <tomodachi> _2: clean install
[03:37] <daniellopes> Hi
[03:37] <TheEdge_> thief: libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device. is the error i get when i start a dvd
[03:37] <Natali> hi
[03:37] <nathanhelp> Winxp cannot access ext3 filesystems correct?
 jrib: its called %admin in the sudoers file  <<<<  see i told you so
[03:37] <jrib> tomodachi: it really is admin, that's the name of the group
[03:37] <tomodachi> nickrud: im not arguing im stating facts
[03:38] <n2diy> h4x0r: thanks for the pointer.
[03:38] <h4x0r> if am not wrong even in youtube is a tutorial
[03:38] <nathanhelp> *without problems.
[03:38] <thief`> n2diy, there are tons of guides on dual boot.   http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=dual+boot+ubuntu+windows
[03:38] <nickrud> tomodachi, ok, you can do a test for yourself. Create two users, add one to the adm group the other to the admin. See which can sudo
[03:38] <Ahadiel> My friend just updated his Intrepid install and now there's no ubuntu kernels in grub. Is there a way to fix this from the livecd?
[03:38] <Ahadiel> listed in grub*
[03:38] <_2> tomodachi sudo test command.   sudo echo boo
[03:38] <tomodachi> _2: u guys probably right
[03:38] <n2diy> thief`: I don't need a guide on dual boot, I need a guide on bare metal installing.
[03:38] <thief`> Ahadiel, edit the menu.ls file... it's easy. and it's normal.
[03:39] <tomodachi> cant bother to check thnx for having the patience to correct me
[03:39] <h4x0r> does somebody try the new beta from ubuntu?
[03:39] <Ahadiel> thief`, How is that normal?
[03:39] <jrib> !jaunty | h4x0r
[03:39] <thief`> n2diy, ok... what do you mean on bare metal installing? like linux from scratch?
[03:39] <Out_Cold> haha nickrud good test lol
[03:39] <thief`> Ahadiel, hah, sorry, i read that wrong.
[03:39] <thief`> you can edit the grub file though..
[03:39] <h4x0r> ubottu i was just asking. why i cant ask?
[03:39] <nickrud> Out_Cold, I've lost track of the tests like that I've created for myself, before I found irc to waste time on and occasionally get a question answered ;)
[03:40] <Ahadiel> thief`, Well yeah... but what exactly do I put in it?
[03:40] <n2diy> thief`: Sorta, start with an infected Win box, wipe the drive, MBR, etc..., and reinstall Win then Ubuntu.
[03:40] <Out_Cold> yea... i waste more time just chatting in here than i do figuring out my system
[03:40] <thief`> n2diy, that's what i thought. it's easy (BUT do windows install first) a MUST. (for easiness.)
[03:40] <h4x0r> knowledge is to share, not to keep it, third rule in the black book
[03:40] <_2> tomodachi to explain a little more clearly,  if not specified earlier in /etc/sudoers as a "symbol"  then anything appearing as  %blah is a dirrect referance to the group by said name "blah" in my example.
[03:40] <therootest> i managed to install the compiz fusion cube BUT there are only 2 sides on the cube. How can i make it 4 sided?
[03:41] <thief`> really, google it, it's everywehere. and it's a lot easier than you think.
[03:41] <MTecknology> I'm trying to install something. I altered the configs and tried to wipe it off my system so I could do a clean install of the package but it doesn't restore configs.... Any ideas how I can do it?
[03:41] <Pici> h4x0r: This is not the channel to discuss Jaunty, please join #ubuntu+1 instead.
[03:41] <nickrud> therootest, right click the desktop switcher, lower right corner and change the number
[03:41] <TheEdge_> thief: libdvdnav: Can't read name block. Probably not a DVD-ROM device. is the error i get when i start a dvd
[03:41] <Out_Cold> h4x0r, ubottu is a bot.... it's just responding to the ! commands. as for off topic stuff some ops are pretty anal about it..
[03:41] <nickrud> therootest, change the number of columns
[03:41] <h4x0r> pici i dont want to discuss jaunty i was just asking
[03:42] <h4x0r> thats all
[03:42] <n2diy> thief`: roger on the Win first, what do I wipe the drive with, gpartd? Will that wipe out the MBR?
[03:42] <thief`> Ahadiel, gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:42] <a_user> no sound on ubuntu 8.04, 2.6.24-23-generic 00:1e.2 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 03)
[03:42] <a_user> any thoughts?
[03:42] <Ahadiel> thief`, I didn't ask how to edit it...
[03:42] <thief`> n2diy, use the ubuntu live cd to wipe it if you like heheh, anything can.
[03:42] <user_2> Hi, I'm using VirtualBox, with a Ubuntu Client which has a ROR website. I'd like to be able to access that site from the host. I think I need to setup a port forwarding?? Can someone help me with this?
[03:42] <thief`> n2diy, death, is death, kill however ye want.
[03:42] <nickrud> !sound | a_user you can start here
[03:43] <n2diy> thief`: ok, so gpartd is the tool to use?
[03:43] <thief`> Ahadiel, msg.
[03:43] <mrpinky> hey, adding myself to "adm" allows me to use sudo again. yay. however, "id" does not appear to show my true group memberships, it did not change when i added myself to "adm" (or anything else). is it cached somewhere...?
[03:43] <Ahadiel> thief`, What?
[03:44] <therootest> nickrud: sorry but i couldnt find how to add columns.
[03:44] <a_user> ha
[03:44] <KDB9000> does anyone know if it is possible to change the mirrors in the Ubuntu Mini ISO? I have been trying to install all day today and it is crawling and having problems downloading some of the packages. Even on my Fiber connection (10 MB up and down).
[03:44] <a_user> sound was turned down
[03:44] <nickrud> therootest, it's under preferences
[03:44] <a_user> toshiba laptops and their wheels
[03:44] <therootest> nickrud: under preferences where?
[03:45] <nathanhelp> is it safe/secure to have ports 80 and 23 open?
[03:45] <Ahadiel> Is there a command to regenerate kernel images in /boot as well as menu.lst?
[03:45] <Steven_M> !mirrors
[03:45] <kindofabuzz> you only need 80 open if you're hosting a site or something like that
[03:45] <_2> nathanhelp of course not.
[03:45] <thief`> n2diy, Ahadiel maybe both could benefit from this: i had to fix my boot sector once (windows attacked it) - i forget what i did exactly, but i google and read.... use a live ubuntu cd and you can use it to fix grub / booting.
[03:45] <mrpinky> hmm "usermod -g admin nbingham" doesn't appear to change my GID. after the command, "id" still shows "gid=1000(nbingham)" not "gid=XXXX(admin)"?
[03:46] <therootest> nickrud: you mean somewhere in the ccsm?
[03:46] <Ahadiel> thief`, That doesn't really help much.
[03:46] <Ahadiel> thief`, But thanks.
[03:46] <thief`> Ahadiel, it might.
[03:46] <jrib> mrpinky: why do you want to change your gid?
[03:46] <n2diy> thief`: roger roger
[03:46] <nickrud> therootest, ok, go this route: compizconfig settings manager, general button, desktop size tab. Change horizontal size
[03:46] <_2> Ahadiel apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-`uname -r`    ?
[03:46] <prime> hello everyone
[03:46] <thief`> n2diy, use gparted to wipe yoru drive and make it in two partitions.
[03:46] <Delvien> !hello | prime
[03:46] <mrpinky> jrgp, because it's currently nbingham and i think it should be admin, right?
[03:46] <Ahadiel> _2, Hrm, that just might work. Thanks!
[03:47] <thief`> !hello | thief`
[03:47] <jrib> mrpinky: no, it's as it should be
[03:47] <IndyGunFreak> Ahadiel: why did you delete the images?'
[03:47] <prime> i am now using linux4one in my acer aspire one
[03:47] <user_2> Hi, I'm using VirtualBox, with a Ubuntu Client which has a ROR website. I'd like to be able to access that site from the host. I think I need to setup a port forwarding on the ubuntu client?? Can someone help me with this?
[03:47] <CyBurnett> how do I open a Terminal when I dont have any panels or icons?
[03:47] <laughyn1nj4> !privatemessage | thief`
[03:47] <n2diy> thief`: ok, what about /swap and /home?
[03:47] <Delvien> CyBurnett: can you Alt F2?
[03:47] <Ahadiel> IndyGunFreak, I didn't. I was updating my friend's intrepid box and he claims there's only "memtest" on the grub menu.
[03:47] <prime> how can I fix my volume with vlc?
[03:47] <mrpinky> jrib, cool thanks :)
[03:47] <jrib> mrpinky: you need to log out and log back in for group additions to take place.  Use 'adduser USER GROUP' to add the user USER to the group GROUP by the way
[03:47] <_2> CyberSix use a console ?
[03:47] <h4x0r> ubottu > yesterday I was here and i told somebody that you can not run 32 bit in a 64 bit processor, and somebody told me i was wrong. i was not talking about an application that you can do it, do i am right?
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> Ahadiel: then if thats the case, i would try using a live CD to reinstall grub, as suggested, something went haywire
[03:48] <thief`> that bot doesn't like it when i say hello to me.
[03:48] <thief`> haha
[03:48] <mrpinky> jrib cool, i accidentally deleted all my group memberships using -G without -a :( do you have a default list of group memberships i can use?
[03:48] <thief`> n2diy, how big is yer HD?
[03:48] <Ahadiel> IndyGunFreak, Okay, will do.
[03:48] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | Ahadiel instructions to reinstall grub are here
[03:49] <jrib> mrpinky: no, but you can use System -> Administration -> Users and groups
[03:49] <n2diy> thief`: not sure, but probably 100+ gig
[03:49] <_2> h4x0r you can install either 32 or 64 bit os into a system that supports 64 bit    you can not install 64 bit os into a system that only supports 32 bit
[03:49] <therootest> nickrud: sorry, but because my ubuntu is in greek... which is the general button? the one down at the left?
[03:49] <mrpinky> jrib, great, thanks! :)
[03:49] <enao1290> Hey guys, quick question; i have a PHP script running on a cron job every 15 minutes
[03:49] <h4x0r> _2 thank you i know i was right
[03:49] <foxwoods> hi, does anyone know how to get rid of the grey outlines in firefox?
[03:50] <prime> bye
[03:50] <Steven_M> are these iso mirrors or repo mirrors http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors?
[03:50] <enao1290> and for some reason, the output is being put into /var/mail/mail
[03:50] <enao1290> how do I stop that from happening?
[03:50] <nickrud> therootest, on my ccsm, it's the one at the top all by itself
[03:50] <enao1290> i'm a total sysadmin noob
[03:50] <therootest> nickrud: oh! i found it! i changed to 2 vertical and 2 horizontal but... no cube on my desktop :(
[03:50] <_2> h4x0r it was not a question of you being right or wrong, it was a question of clear communication.
[03:51] <nickrud> therootest, change the horizontal to 4, and vertical to 1
[03:52] <kazekagi> Anyone Know alot about getting Video quality Better on Ubuntu?
[03:52] <jigp> hello guys is there any web development tools for ubuntu 8.04? (free web developer tools) like for example dreamweaver in windows.
[03:52] <laughyn1nj4> darn...i keep trying but i still get the grub blues
[03:52] <thief`> n2diy, make your /home be 30 gigs, your / 10 gigs and leave the rest for xpooh
[03:52] <laughyn1nj4> i'm just going to re-install...
[03:52] <therootest> nickrud: omg! it works! but now, how can i make the cube a little smaller so i can see all of it?
[03:52] <thief`> n2diy, i gotta go... any other Qs real quick?
[03:52] <h4x0r> i have some computers and one of them have a 64x amd (969) processor and dont accept the 32 bit "i386" on that system
[03:52] <_2> thief` only 30g for home ???   O.o
[03:52] <nickrud> therootest, that's the zoom under the cube settings, iirc. Or, hold down the middle button and move the mouse? Been a while since I used the cube
[03:53] <thief`> _2, who cares, you can change it later, or add another hd.
[03:53] <Out_Cold> jigp, whats your video card now?
[03:53] <nickrud> therootest, #compiz-fusion has all the really cool effects
[03:53] <thief`> n2diy, it's not a big deal  - the sizes right now... you can edit them later.
[03:53] <h4x0r> intel run perfect i386 and amd run perfet 64 bit i586
[03:53] <gerber> help with 1710 dell laser printer
[03:53] <_2> thief` "who cares"   user cares in most cases.
[03:53] <n2diy> thief`: 10-4 on the Xpooh! :)
[03:53] <Out_Cold> my 64 bit won't load a 64 OS
[03:53] <thief`> read a coulpe lines above.
[03:53] <jigp> Out_Cold  : ATI
[03:53] <thief`> hahah
[03:54] <thief`> xpooh
[03:54] <thief`> makes me laugh.
[03:54] <foxwoods> kazekagi: what's wrong with your video output?
[03:54] <FloodBot1> thief`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:54] <jigp> Out_Cold  : ATI 512mb and 1gb ram
[03:54] <laughyn1nj4> anyone install OpenOffice 3.0 on Intrepid?
[03:54] <Out_Cold> jigp, do you have the proper drivers installed?
[03:54] <gerber> help with 1710 dell laser printer
[03:54] <laughyn1nj4> if so...how'd it go?
[03:54] <thief`> n2diy, seriously, it's easy. i just jumped into it, and did it. no prob. it's easy than you think.
[03:54] <therootest> nickrud: oh thanks!!!!! do you happen to know how can i make the cube stay a little longer on the desktop so that i can rotate and find the desktop i want?
[03:55] <gerber> help with 1710 dell laser printer
[03:55] <foxwoods> again, anyone remember how to get rid of grey outlines in firefox around text boxes and such?
[03:55] <thief`> they have made linux easy now. (well, kinda) hahah
[03:55] <h4x0r> laughylnj4 ubuntu intrebit dont accept office 3.0 because is not stable but google it and you will find some tutorial how to install it
[03:55] <jigp> Out_Cold: yes
[03:55] <Out_Cold> therootest, try pressing your middle mouse button on the desktop
[03:55] <gerber> help with 1710 dell laser printer
[03:55] <laughyn1nj4> say what?  i use OOo on win all the time
[03:56] <_2> linux has always been "easy". the dificulty has been "having to unlearn M$ in order to learn linux"
[03:56] <therootest> Out_Cold: im on a laptop without mouse :)
[03:56] <kazekagi> Foxwoods: Well its a several part problem. I can run the AVI files ok, But the quality is all grainy and lines appear on the picture. Been looking all over on the net, tried several solutions, but none seem too work. Same problem in totem,VLC, kaffein
[03:56] <Out_Cold> therootest, press both buttons to act as the third button
[03:56] <h4x0r> you are 100% right
[03:56] <therootest> Out_Cold: doesnt work
[03:56] <TheEdge_> could some one look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/111537/   and tell what i have to do
[03:57] <Out_Cold> ctrl + alt + left?
[03:57] <laughyn1nj4> well yes i am.  anyone ever do any virtualization with Xen?  that sound like a tasty project!
[03:58] <_VIM_> laughyn1nj4: i think the majority of people in here favor VirtualBox... not xen
[03:58] <h4x0r> gerber ubutnu use a system to install a printer that goes to a server where will find just the drivers for you printer if you go to system > printing and > new and follow it
[03:58] <jigp> Out_Cold: what web development tool to use in ubuntu 8.04 desktop? especially php+html.. I use dreamweaver in windows but its trial.
[03:58] <therootest> thank you guys! :)
[03:58] <_2> jigp quanta
[03:58] <Out_Cold> well Kompozer is a WYSIWYG program..
[03:58] <gaintsura> when I'm working with a bash script, $1 is considered a variable right?
[03:59] <laughyn1nj4> giantsura: yes
[03:59] <_VIM_> was Kompozer ever fixed or does it still crash when you use a menu?
[03:59] <foxwoods> kazekagi: then it's most likely your video card driver
[03:59] <gaintsura> thanks laughyn1nj4
[03:59] <Steven_M> where can I found repo mirrors?
[03:59] <laughyn1nj4> 'twas nothin.
[03:59] <foxwoods> kazekagi: what video card, and do you know what you are using as your driver?
[03:59] <Steven_M> *find
[04:00] <tonyyarusso> _VIM_: I haven't yet packaged the alpha version - theoretically we'll have a final of the new one that I can put in a PPA / backports soon.
[04:00] <kazekagi> darnit. running a Ati 4870x2 card. installed latest driver from thhe site
[04:00] <_VIM_> tonyyarusso: you're a Kompozer dev?
[04:00] <laughyn1nj4> $1 is read from the cmd line ... i don't think you can declare it
[04:00] <user_2> Hi, I'm using VirtualBox, with a Ubuntu Client which has a ROR website. I'd like to be able to access that site from the host. I think I need to setup a port forwarding on the ubuntu client?? Can someone help me with this?
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> _VIM_: no, just the packager for Ubuntu.  (I make the .deb, but don't write the code)
[04:01] <_2> !info ted
[04:01] <syzygy> what is the command to extract a traball again?
[04:01] <foxwoods> kazekagi: open your xorg.conf, and tell me what it says your driver is right now
[04:01] <syzygy> *tarball that is
[04:01] <foxwoods> (i.e. atiglx or something else)
[04:01] <syzygy> unzip?
[04:01] <_VIM_> ah ok tonyyarusso thanks for the heads up :)
[04:02] <_2> pulled for lack of support i gather
[04:02] <kazekagi> Ok ill just say it, first day using linux:D How do i open in, whats the command:D
[04:02] <tonyyarusso> syzygy: tar x, then other options if you wish.  for a .tar.gz I usually use tar zxvf
[04:02] <user_2> !port
[04:02] <_2> syzygy tar -xf filename
[04:02] <macman> question .. say i can't burn an iso .. can i mount the iso and then drag all the contents to the dvd and then burn it ? if so will i be able to boot it ?
[04:02] <syzygy> cool
[04:02] <foxwoods> kazekagi: if you're familiar with vim, say vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf (it will warn you it's read only)
[04:03] <foxwoods> otherwise, just find it graphically
[04:03] <syzygy> macman: yes
[04:03] <_VIM_> !remaster | macman (I think this is what you mean?)...
[04:03] <_2> macman if you can't burn the iso,  why ?
[04:03] <_2> !isoburn
[04:03] <_2> !burniso
[04:03] <foxwoods> last try guys: Firefox, ugly grey outlines around fields, radio buttons, submit buttons -> How do I get rid of those?
[04:03] <_2> macman   ^   ubottu
[04:04] <_VIM_> foxwoods: have you tried changing Firefox themes?
[04:05] <user_2> hello?
[04:05] <randal> hi i was wondering how can i make my partision bigger in linux
[04:05] <foxwoods> the themes for firefox are fine, in terms of firefox's look
[04:05] <user_2> !port
[04:05] <h4x0r> but you are pretty good ubottu
[04:05] <sn007ake> How can i change from proprietary drivers to Ubuntu Drivers? ( grafix )
[04:05] <foxwoods> it's the page rendering -> google's radio buttons have a grey outline around them
[04:05] <_2> randal gparted maybe
[04:05] <user_2> ?? portforward.com is an advertisement to a closed source Windows program ??
[04:05] <laughyn1nj4> domo warigoto misto ubotto
[04:05] <kazekagi_> f
[04:05] <_VIM_> foxwoods: Firefox themes can effect the icons is what i was getting to. You might change themes just to see if that's the issue
[04:05] <macman> _VIM_ this is not what i mean .. what i mean is for some reason im trying to burn a bootable iso but for some reason at boot it is not booting .. can i mount the iso in ubuntu and drag all the conents into a empty dvd and make that dvd bootable from there ?
[04:05] <foxwoods> _VIM_: I did change to my favourite theme, which fixed the tabs
[04:05] <randal> _2: whats that
[04:05] <h4x0r> you can install gparted from you add and removes
[04:06] <foxwoods> _VIM_: but it doesn't fix text boxes on websites
[04:06] <foxwoods> or buttons
[04:06] <user_2> ?? portforward.com is an advertisement to a closed source Windows program ??
[04:06] <h4x0r> or sudo get-apt install gparted
[04:06] <_2> randal web search for   gparted live cd
[04:07] <_VIM_> macman: im not sure maybe k3b can do that
[04:07] <foxwoods> kazekagi: found /etc/X11/xorg.conf yet?
[04:07] <kazekagi_> Ok Foxwoods, I think i got it. Shall i paste the entire thing in the channel?
[04:07] <foxwoods> coo....no, don't post the whole thing
[04:07] <user_2> Something is wrong with ubotu
[04:07] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: go find where it says something about ati
[04:08] <randal> _2: can i use gnome partistion editor
[04:08] <_VIM_> kazekagi_: if its over like 2 or three lines, use http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:08] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: follow VIM's advice
[04:08] <foxwoods> paste there
[04:08] <_VIM_> randal: gparted or get the Gparted LIVE CD
[04:08] <Deatrix> olá, podem fazer o favor de me fornecerem o acesso, para o kurumim em português?
[04:09] <gaelfx> !es | Deatrix
[04:09] <Xpistos> Can someone give me a hand mounting a drive in my server to a folder in my laptop. I am so frustrated!
[04:09] <Deatrix> grato
[04:09] <_2> randal that is gparted    run it from a live cd.  you can't resize the root filesystem of the running system
[04:09] <laughyn1nj4> later on
[04:10] <kazekagi_> Section "Device"
[04:10] <kazekagi_>         Identifier  "aticonfig-Device[0]-0"
[04:10] <kazekagi_>         Driver      "fglrx"
[04:10] <kazekagi_>         BusID       "PCI:5:0:0"
[04:10] <FloodBot1> kazekagi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:10] <randal> _2: ok thanks im downloading it and i found that out it wont let me resize
[04:10] <_2> randal   gparted = gnome partition editor
[04:10] <Deatrix> #ubuntu-pt
[04:10] <_VIM_> Deatrix: it's /join #ubuntu-pt
[04:11] <_2> or actually maybe gtk partition editor   idk.
[04:11] <Deatrix> grato
[04:11] <gerber> dell printer help  to install
[04:11] <_VIM_> :)
[04:11] <_2> !printer > gerber
[04:11]  * X3S Back
[04:12] <kazekagi_> was that the right thing?
[04:13] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: please use paste.ubuntu.com, so I can see your whole xorg.conf
[04:14] <rashed2020> Is there something wrong with the repos? It takes forever to download something
[04:14] <usser> yep same here
[04:14] <kazekagi_> There?
[04:14] <usser> im getting redirected to some russian mirror
[04:14] <PuTrA_caem> dfafsdf
[04:14] <PuTrA_caem> aloow
[04:14] <os11> hi i need help here, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111546/
[04:14] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: you have to send me the link
[04:15] <kazekagi_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/111545/
[04:15] <big-bro> how to stop karaoke effect with microphone coming through the speakers
[04:15] <kazekagi_> :D
[04:15] <rashed2020> It doesn't redirect me or anything, just hangs for around a minute then does everything quickly
[04:15] <ari_stress> big-bro: reduce the volume
[04:15] <rashed2020> big-bro: Or buy a headset
[04:16] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: do you have desktop effects enabled?
[04:16] <ravious> anyone have any exp with the new xorg in xubuntu 8.10? I need to set my video driver but the xorg.conf file is blank.
[04:16] <ari_stress> guys, anyone use lenovo g400? does the pc speaker still works? i cannot get sound from the pc speaker
[04:16] <kazekagi_> hmmm yes, try turning that off perhaps.
[04:16] <kazekagi_> Compiz too be exact
[04:17] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: that's your problem
[04:17] <_2> os11 sshing into a dynamic ip ?
[04:17] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: try the fixes discussed here: http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/VideoPlayback
[04:18] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: let me know how it works out.
[04:19] <_2> os11 the fact that the address has changed is cause for concern if you use static ip's but not for dynamic ip's as far as i know.    someone can correct me if ssh uses mac addresses rather than ip addressing
[04:19] <os11> i can connect it at home
[04:19] <os11> but i am outside now
[04:19] <kazekagi_> Fantastic Foxwoods.. Worked like a charm.. still abit grainy, but nothing i cant live with:D Thx a lot!
[04:20] <os11> so how to solve the problem?
[04:20] <Booge> ssh is a layer 3 protocol. it uses ip addresses
[04:20] <ravious> Anyone have any advice for how to manually configure the new xorg included with xubuntu 8.10? The xorg.conf seems not to be used to apply configurations anymore.
[04:20] <_2> os11 the message you pastebined says the hostkey changed  so if you can't login with password then you'll have to get the new hostkey
[04:21] <big-bro> can i stop the karaoke effect in skype or should i just use headphones
[04:21] <_2> err public key
[04:21] <X3S> When a friend of me wants to install ubuntu after formating He had an error
[04:21] <X3S> logical block
[04:21] <X3S> What does it mean ?
[04:21] <os11> i cant even goto the password
[04:21] <sn007ake> Guys they Had a site that would Inspect ur Vid settings and pick the best display driver Does ne 1 know this site off top ur head?
[04:21] <_2> "logical block" != "full error message"
[04:22] <X3S> so ?
[04:22] <gerber> who want to help me with remote desktop ?
[04:22] <_2> os11 that indicates that the ssh server is configured to allow only public/private key access
[04:23] <os11> _2, so what does it mean?
[04:23] <zumz> it means give more info
[04:24] <os11> ssh user@xx.xx.xx.xx ??
[04:24] <_2> os11 means you wont be able to access that system under the current conditions.  something will have to change.   1. you get the new public key   2. the server is reset to accept password ident  3. you find an exploit and gain access the hard way
[04:24] <foxwoods> kazekagi_: no problem
[04:24] <kazekagi_> :D
[04:24] <os11> how to get new public key?
[04:25] <werdnum> os11: ssh-keygen
[04:25] <_2> os11 from the server you are trying to access
[04:25] <foxwoods> ravious: what do you mean it's no longer used?
[04:25] <os11> i am not home now, my server is at home
[04:26] <_2> what i can't understand is why ~/ permission disables public key access  when ~/.ssh[.*] permission is unchanged.
[04:26] <ravious> The xorg.conf file on xubuntu 8.10 is no longer used to provide xorg server settings, its just a blank file.. But its using the default video driver rather than the i810 that it needs to use.. but i cant seem to find anyway to switch the driver sence the xorg.conf is an empty file
[04:26] <merrnt> My computer needed to reboot after installing some updates, and now I get an Error 15: File not found
[04:28] <ravious> and im not comfortable enough with the xorg.conf to rewrite it toatlly from scratch, i've always just edited it when i needed to make changes to it
[04:28] <JesperHansen> ravious: I just found the same problem
[04:28] <_2> ravious add the info to the xorg.conf  it still reads it,  just doesn't depend on it
[04:28] <foxwoods> ravious: where are you looking for xorg.conf.....cause it's definitely still in use
[04:28] <_2> JesperHansen ^ too
[04:28] <foxwoods> strange that it wasn't there
[04:28] <ravious> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <usser> ravious, try Xorg -config
[04:28] <foxwoods> okay, good
[04:28] <usser> ravious, or Xorg -configure
[04:29] <usser> ravious, i forgot which, it'll create a basic setup in the current directory
[04:29] <ravious> usser: is that something that could be run from remote via ssh?
[04:29] <_2> usser that breaks xorg for me.   not sure it's good advice
[04:29] <usser> ravious, yes sure
[04:29] <foxwoods> ravious: if usser's suggestion doesn't work, exit the x-server and use sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:29] <foxwoods> that should generate an xorg.conf which you can then configure if need be
[04:29] <syzygy> I know I should ask this in the alsa channel, but I already did...with no response
[04:29] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: leaves the file blank as well
[04:29] <usser> _2, i just did it, that was on a clean headless install though with xorg just installed
[04:30] <syzygy> http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/g/gnome-alsamixer/gnome-alsamixer_0.9.7~cvs.20060916.ds.1-2_amd64.deb can I dl this alsamixer...or do I have to have a special kernel first?
[04:30] <_2> usser i didn't say it breaks all xorg's   just that it does mine.
[04:30] <foxwoods> syzgy: you can download it and it should work fine as long as you have a amd64 processor
[04:30] <JesperHansen> man... I am really getting ready to drop ubuntu on all three machines and installing windows.
[04:31] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: dual boot
[04:31] <_2> usser i have tried it several times,  consistant breakage from Xorg --configure  and consistant fixage from  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:31] <BenSmith> Question for anyone.  Can I create a bootable usb startup disk in ubuntu of ubuntu 8.10 server?
[04:31] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: really, drop ubuntu. After 3 years its just screwed up.
[04:31] <foxwoods> ravious: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure yet?
[04:31] <_2> usser i don't know why.  i just know that's the results i get.
[04:32] <usser> _2, hm thats weird what videocard do you have?
[04:32] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: I dual boot, I just reinstalled kubuntu again so I could hopefully work on bringing kde4 to windows
[04:32] <_2> usser nvidia riva128
[04:32] <spill> anyone got any suggestion for laptop power managment in gnome to extend battery life, other than the default applet that is.?
[04:32] <khmer42> What's the easiest way to get terminial access tn another Ubuntu machine within your network?
[04:32] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: I'm a gamer, so having just ubuntu is not an option :P I still spend most of my time in windows
[04:32] <_2> usser also same on an ati lappy
[04:32] <foxwoods> khmer42: get it's ip / host address and use ssh
[04:33] <_2> usser also same on an ati lappy    err debian lenny  close relative to ubuntu 8.10
[04:33] <khmer42> foxwoods: thanks
[04:33] <foxwoods> khmer42: np
[04:33] <h4x0r> khmer42 wich way you want to communicate
[04:33] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: I went down in a store and actually bought windows vista for my gamer computer as I got pissed with the poor wine/cedega performance and low graphical details :P
[04:33] <spill> anyone got any suggestion for laptop power managment in gnome to extend battery life, other than the default applet that is.?
[04:33] <_2> usser the "official" ubuntu methood is to use dpkg-reconfigure  on it.    just an FYI
[04:34] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: no kidding....plus I'm also into 3d graphics, and running zbrush, 3ds max, etc. is not an option in linux yet
[04:34] <foxwoods> well, not unless I purchase their especial linux versions, which I'm in no way doing
[04:34] <randal> when will jaunty be released
[04:34] <gerber> who want to help me with remote desktop ?
[04:34] <khmer42> h4x0r: I just want the most simple way to get command line access, preferably with tools that exist within a standard install.
[04:34] <BenSmith> Question for anyone.  Can I create a bootable usb startup disk in ubuntu of ubuntu 8.10 server?
[04:35] <_2> BenSmith sure
[04:35] <randal> does any one know when the new ubuntu will be released jaunty
[04:35] <foxwoods> BenSmith:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick if you mean a usb key
[04:35] <gerber> who want to help me with remote desktop ?
[04:35] <h4x0r> is so many ways , from terminal or graphical,
[04:35] <foxwoods> BenSmith: if you mean a regular hard drive, what prevents you from using the regular server CD?
[04:35] <gerber> grafical
[04:35] <_2> BenSmith you can use any of several boot loaders for that  grub2 lilo grub syslinux (probably more)
[04:35] <merrnt> I'm getting an Error 15: File Not Found when I try to boot, how do I tell grub where to look for my boot partition?
[04:36] <h4x0r> ok
[04:36] <foxwoods> BenSmith: just as long as when you install, you specify the right device for grub to install to, it should work fine
[04:36] <khmer42> h4x0r: Terminal is what I'm looking for really. This is the problem there seems to be many ways, just looking for most straight forward to I don't need to mess around too much with each machine I will be remoting in to.
[04:36] <BenSmith> foxwoods: I'm sorry i'm extremely new at this.  Grub?
[04:37] <_2> merrnt grub prompt:  root (hd?,#)
[04:37] <spill> anyone got any suggestion for laptop power managment in gnome to extend battery life, other than the default applet that is.?
[04:37] <merrnt> just type that with the correct hd(0,1) ?
[04:37] <_2> merrnt use the tab key in the grub prompt
[04:37] <merrnt> Alrighty
[04:37] <foxwoods> BenSmith: I've never installed the server edition, but when you install ubuntu desktop, at the very end before the final install commit, there's an 'advanced' option
[04:37] <douglask> Question: i've found that by setting a couple iwconfig settings, my wireless connection is FAR more stable (rate auto and txpower auto), how do I store this to be used automatically in future?
[04:37] <_2> merrnt  syntax error  hd(0,1)
[04:38] <_2> merrnt (hd0,1)
[04:38] <merrnt> k
[04:38] <foxwoods> BenSmith: if you click that, you'll see it asks which device to install grub to (grub is the program that boots your linux kernel)
[04:38] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: I am having a strange problem. When I move slowly with my mouse, then it lags. It doesn't move before I have moved with it with 10px on the screen. If I move it fast, then it still moves with 10px, but faster so I cant see it lags... glxgear is still 600fps, so its not OS lag, but only mouse lag. Heavily.
[04:38] <merrnt> giving it a shot, thanks _2 !
[04:38] <CoJaBo-Aztec> What all should I check to find out why ssh and apache can't be reached from the internet? Seems Ubuntu has something called AppArmor, could that be doing it and how would I check?
[04:39] <foxwoods> BenSmith: do a fdisk -l in a terminal window to see which drive is the one you want to install to, then type that (i.e. /dev/sdb) into that device to install to box
[04:39] <khmer42> h4x0r: ssh is cool, but don't I need to install openssh-server on each machine?
[04:39] <foxwoods> BenSmith: Note: Since I haven't worked with ubuntu server, this is all at your own risk......
[04:39] <_2> khmer42 or "ssh" which is a meta package that depends on both server and client
[04:39] <douglask> khmer42, only on the machine(s) you are connecting to.
[04:39] <BenSmith> foxwoods: awesome. Thanks
[04:40] <Lucifer_Cat> Question: Has anyone here tried/knows something specific about the Everex AMD gPC which comes with Ubuntu preloaded?  Is it a good deal for 200, or is it something best avoided?
[04:40] <evilGUI> hello I'm trying to setup cron to run a script every 2 hours 3 minutes can someone tell me if this is right? */123 * * * * /home/user/ perl e.pl -u -p -d
[04:40] <_2> khmer42 and yes   all boxen in a dmz should have package "ssh" installed  imo
[04:40] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: I'm on kubuntu (installing ubuntu-desktop as we speak.....) but you should be able to go into your system settings and the mouse section should have some options like pointer acceleration
[04:40] <foxwoods> try increasing that
[04:41] <_2> evilGUI not for /etc/crontab  maybe for anacron personal crontabs.
[04:42] <evilGUI> I used crontab -e
[04:42] <_2> evilGUI the /home/user/ would fail   unless i'm missing something
[04:42] <spill> anyone got any suggestion for laptop power managment in gnome to extend battery life, other than the default applet that is.?
[04:43] <evilGUI> _2: It would fail becuase it's not my real user right?
[04:43] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: it decreased the lag to 5px on the lowest possible setting :P
[04:43] <h4x0r> spill the default is the best .
[04:44] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: lowest possible setting? shouldn't you try getting it to the highest setting? also what mouse is this?
[04:44] <BenSmith> foxwoods: I'm reading the directions from the link you provided.  I can't find the device name it was assigned.
[04:44] <spill> h4x0r: what about cpu throttling?
[04:44] <douglask> anyone know how to save iwconfig settings?
[04:45] <_2> evilGUI no because it's not any user. it's a path
[04:45] <foxwoods> BenSmith: which part of those instructions are you following, manual?
[04:45] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: I am actually on xubuntu
[04:45] <_2> evilGUI i.e.  rather than  /home/user/  just plain   user
[04:45] <bbs> is jaunty the next version
[04:45] <blizzardman1219\> hi, i need help mounting a usb drive via bash. i have no gui to use. when i use the command 'mount -t vfat -o /dev/sdf /mnt/usb' it tells me that /dev/sdf doesn't have a valid FAT file system, but i've even reformatted it to make sure that it's FAT
[04:45] <_2> bbs yes
[04:45] <bbs> i'm a gentoo user
[04:45] <bbs> and just jumping to ubuntu now
[04:46] <bbs> because i have too much work to fsck around anymore
[04:46] <bbs> programming wise
[04:46] <bbs> _2: ok -- is that rolling release?
[04:46] <Lucifer_Cat> Anyone?
[04:46] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: acceleration is slow and threshold is low. Anywhere higher makes the lag between mouse updates even higher
[04:46] <_2> bbs then i would reccomend either an LTS version of ubuntu or debian.
[04:46] <bbs> _2: LTS
[04:46] <bbs> i'm a programmer mind you
[04:46] <_2> bbs long term support
[04:46] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: acceleration higher increases lag?
[04:47] <bbs> _2: no i don't need that
[04:47] <usser> blizzardman1219\, you dont usually mount the entire disk, which seems from your command is what you're trying to do
[04:47] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: and what mouse is this?
[04:47] <bbs> _2: i need up to date -- and programming tools
[04:47] <bbs> not debian sarge
[04:47] <_2> bbs then why leave gentoo if you have the time to upgrade all the time
[04:47] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: laptop mouse
[04:47] <usser> blizzardman1219\, sdf must have partitions on it, like sdf1 or sdf2
[04:47] <bbs> _2: i don't have time
[04:47] <bbs> to compile shit
[04:47] <gerber> why i can see my other
[04:47] <_2> bbs well   ubuntu intrepid is the current release
[04:47] <foxwoods> bbs: please don't use enter's for punctuation
[04:48] <BenSmith> "A few seconds after plugging in the USB stick run the dmesg command or sudo fdisk -l to find the device name it was assigned."
[04:48] <foxwoods> BenSmith: and.....what's the output?
[04:48] <blizzardman1219\> usser: well the rest of my drive is /dev/sda, this is strictly the USB drive, it is assigned the name /dev/sdf
[04:48] <_2> !release > bbs
[04:48] <gerber> i have 8.10 ubuntu  "samba" is ready to go ?
[04:49] <BenSmith> Usage: fdisk [-l] [-b SSZ] [-u] device
[04:49] <BenSmith> E.g.: fdisk /dev/hda  (for the first IDE disk)
[04:49] <BenSmith>   or: fdisk /dev/sdc  (for the third SCSI disk)
[04:49] <BenSmith>   or: fdisk /dev/eda  (for the first PS/2 ESDI drive)
[04:49] <BenSmith>   or: fdisk /dev/rd/c0d0  or: fdisk /dev/ida/c0d0  (for RAID devices)
[04:49] <FloodBot1> BenSmith: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:49] <BenSmith>   ...
[04:49] <usser> blizzardman1219\, try sudo fdisk -l that should show you if it has any partitions
[04:49] <BenSmith> FloodBot1 sorry
[04:49] <_2> !botsnack
[04:49] <foxwoods> BenSmith: type sudo fdisk -l, then use paste.ubuntu.com and send the link to me
[04:49] <_2> !release > bbs
[04:49] <WIGGMPk> I installed updates last night but it fails when trying to configure the kernel (intrepid), can anyone please take a look and help?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/111158/
[04:50] <_2> bbs must be desynced
[04:50] <_2> maybe i'm desynced.
[04:51] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:51] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: the mouse moves perfectly if I plug in a usb mouse (logitech G5)
[04:51] <BenSmith> foxwoods:http://paste.ubuntu.com/111554/
[04:51] <WIGGMPk> foxwoods: thanks, I will try that as soon as the new updates finish
[04:51] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: but the mouse pad moves laggy
[04:51] <JesperHansen> hmm
[04:52] <foxwoods> JesperHansen:hrm...........no clue then
[04:52] <Tiblet> Hi. After the updates I installed today, I have no sound coming from any of the jacks on my sound card (Creative Audigy 2 ZS). The front headphone jack works, however. I searched around the mixer looking for something that was muted and came up empty handed. I'm running 8.10, ALSA drivers (pulse doesn't change anything). Anyone have a similar issue and could point me in the direction of a fix? Thanks! :)
[04:52] <blizzardman1219\> usser: it has no partitons
[04:53] <foxwoods> BenSmith: Did you type "sudo fdisk -l"?
[04:53] <usser> blizzardman1219\, the its unpartitioned
[04:53] <usser> *then
[04:53] <j-b-r> *grunt* I can't install stupid nvidia drivers
[04:53] <usser> blizzardman1219\, if fdisk doesnt show any
[04:53] <BenSmith> foxwoods: no. thought that was a "/"
[04:53] <j-b-r> I'm trying everything.
[04:53] <usser> j-b-r, its easy really
[04:53] <foxwoods> j-b-r: what's going wrong?
[04:53] <j-b-r> Everything
[04:54] <j-b-r> First of all
[04:54] <Tiblet> j-b-r: Tried System>Administration>Hardware Drivers?
[04:54] <j-b-r> They're not there
[04:54] <foxwoods> j-b-r: if you want help, everything doesn't help
[04:54] <_2> blizzardman1219\ i'm sorry i just noticed your "unpartitioned"  statement,  may i inquire what we are doing ?
[04:54] <usser> j-b-r, are u isntalling from nividia.com
[04:54] <j-b-r> I tried that, yes
[04:54] <Finnish> I'm installing latest Kino, I need to address ./configure to my SVN-FFMpeg, how do I do that?
[04:54] <j-b-r> But it said that it couldn't compile the kernel modules
[04:54] <j-b-r> I tried envyng
[04:54] <j-b-r> And it said it worked
[04:54] <foxwoods> j-b-r: you need to uninstall ALL previous nvidia drivers
[04:54] <j-b-r> but on boot, it failed to load
[04:54] <blizzardman1219\> _2: i'm trying to mount a usb drive, i have no GUI installed
[04:54] <BenSmith> http://paste.ubuntu.com/111555/
[04:55] <usser> j-b-r, what model do you have? what does lspci | grep VGA say? did u see this page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NvidiaManual
[04:55] <BenSmith> foxwoods:http://paste.ubuntu.com/111555/
[04:55] <foxwoods> j-b-r: go sudo apt-get remove nvidia and tab
[04:55] <foxwoods> j-b-r: remove everything you can
[04:55] <vigo> j-b-r: listen to foxwoods
[04:55] <_2> blizzardman1219\ i personally use unpartitiioned hdd's   but fine it frustrating to have to explain that to everyone...    just mount the device   i.e.  sudo mount /dev/sdc /mnt
[04:55] <foxwoods> j-b-r: then run the nvidia file
[04:55] <_2> s=fine=find=
[04:55] <xyz> join ##javascript
[04:55] <j-b-r> I guess I'll have to purge everything I've done
[04:55] <hendershot> Sysinfo for 'Hendershot-desktop': Linux 2.6.27-9-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU: PentiumII(Deschutes) at 398 MHz (796 bogomips), HD: 5/11GB, RAM: 215/248MB, 116 proc's, 7.49h up
[04:56] <j-b-r> But I can't even remember half of what I've changed
[04:56] <blizzardman1219\> _2: it says "no media found'
[04:56] <WIGGMPk> foxwoods: where are the packages? /var/cache? something like that?
[04:56] <j-b-r> It was on a fresh install, though
[04:56] <foxwoods> BenSmith: so it looks like /dev/sdb is your FAT32 flash disk
[04:56] <_2> blizzardman1219\ did you specify the correct device ?   sdc is example only
[04:56] <BenSmith> foxwoods: ok thanks
[04:56] <hendershot> hey guys and girls im trying out new themes for kubuntu and i wanted to know if there was any xp themes avaliable
[04:57] <_2> blizzardman1219\  grep ' sd' /proc/partitions  should help
[04:57] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: amount of data from /dev/input/mouse2 (G5 mouse) is massive compared to /dev/input/mouse1 (mousepad) hmm
[04:57] <foxwoods> BenSmith: so when you get to that final do you want to install page (if it goes there on a server install), click on advanced and set the grub to install on /dev/sdb
[04:57] <blizzardman1219\> _2: when i specify it as what i thought it was, it says that i must give a file system, when i give it vfat it says that there is no valid FAT file system there
[04:57] <nookbot> * version nokbot
[04:57] <foxwoods> BenSmith: also make sure that you install your root directory on /dev/sdb
[04:57] <_2> blizzardman1219\ or dmesg | tail
[04:58] <BenSmith> foxwoods: According to the next directions shouldn't it be /dev/sdb1?
[04:58] <extor> Does openvz have to have a kernel specifically for it or can openvz containers be loaded via a kernel module too? I wanna know if my kernel can support openvz without changing to a new kernel--is it possible to test?
[04:58] <foxwoods> (i.e. on the right disk, for a great explanation of the process for desktop, go here:http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/dualboot)
[04:58] <vigo> The nvidea drivers are in the Restricted or Multiverse section of Synaptic, they work with almost all drivers.
[04:58] <saranya> any one know how to update a software through terminal
[04:58] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: I'd try to find some drivers for my mousepad if I were you
[04:59] <CarlFK> saranya: sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:59] <saranya> k
[04:59] <Merrnt> _2 : Thanks, got it fixed!
[04:59] <_2> Merrnt welcome
[04:59] <CarlFK> what is a good app to un-rm ?
[04:59] <vigo> saranya: oh ok, Thank you CarlFK
[04:59] <_2> CarlFK heh  there isnt' one
[04:59] <CarlFK> I used the rm command, not the gnome delete
[04:59] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: if you installed through apt-get, using auto-complete (tab) with "sudo apt-get remove nvidia" should list all the packages you might need to uninstall
[04:59] <brylie> My card readers on an Acer AspireOne are not automatically mounting. How do I A) mount a card to transfer data OR B) set up the readers so that they automatically mount?
[05:00] <_2> CarlFK say good by to what ever it was.
[05:00] <WIGGMPk> foxwoods: i think maybe wrong person
[05:00] <hendershot> hey guys and girls im trying out new themes for kubuntu and i wanted to know if there was any xp themes avaliable
[05:00] <CarlFK> _2: na, there are a few un deleteters
[05:00] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: sorry, you're right, wrong person
[05:00] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: try just typing in a console, anywhere sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:00] <CarlFK> _2 apt-cache search undelete shows me 2 for ext2
[05:00] <_2> CarlFK is it ext2 ?
[05:01] <vigo> hendershot: use Wine or whatever Ubuntu supports now
[05:01] <_2> CarlFK how many for your fs format ?
[05:01] <hendershot> wine?
[05:01] <WIGGMPk> foxwoods: yea.. its a no go, also tried, "sudo dpkg --configure --pending" "sudo apt-get -f install"
[05:01] <hendershot> does that work with kde
[05:01] <vigo> !wine
[05:01] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: The only difference between when it wasn't lagging was the default xubuntu installation and I'm having the 2.6.28-6 kernel instead of 2.6.27 kernel to get ext4 for solidstate harddrive :p
[05:01] <saranya> i install ruby but an error message comes like this E:unable to fetch some archives, may be run apt-get update or  try with --fix-missing? how to use this
[05:02] <Tiblet> Trying to figure out how to make the rear jacks on a Creative Audigy 2ZS card work again. Using ALSA drivers, broke today after an update. Headphones up front work, anyone with any ideas on how to fix this would be helpful. Thanks
[05:02] <_2> CarlFK http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html http://projects.izzysoft.de/trac/ext3undel
[05:02] <foxwoods> BenSmith: sorry, I redirected you to the wrong wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent
[05:02] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: sorry, not sure then
[05:02] <_2> !undelete > CarlFK
[05:02] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: probably a diff between the kernels
[05:03] <hendershot> tahnk
[05:03] <BenSmith> Foxwoods: Not a problem.  Thanks for the link
[05:03] <saranya> any one know what is the problem here:install ruby but an error message comes like this E:unable to fetch some archives, may be run apt-get update or  try with --fix-missing? how to use this
[05:03] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: maybe........try compiling your own kernel ?? :P
[05:03] <jheizer> Anyone here any good with PXE booting?
[05:04] <foxwoods> saranya: did you type sudo apt-get install ruby (and tabbing with auto-complete to make sure that you're installing a real package?)
[05:04] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: even tried. Laggy as well. But I am looking at the mouse module. Cant determine the right module tho.
[05:04] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: yeah, I wouldn't know which it would be, but two possibilities to fix: one is to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in case that somehow screwed up your mouse
[05:04] <Mean_Admin> saranya: did you also sudo apt-get update ?
[05:04]  * _2 worries about infonodes that explain how to recover data like this "methods that might work is some cases are described at at"  <<< "methoods" plural, "is" singular, "at at" duplicated without cause....
[05:05] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: other possibility: see if you can find the default mouse module for your previous kernel
[05:05] <HellB0y> ¾È³çÇÏ¼¼¿ä^^*
[05:05]  * _2 also notes that "is" was a typo for "in" in the origenal.
[05:05] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: or if you still have that old kernel, you can boot into it and try an lsmod
[05:05] <saranya> foxwoods: My system is connected in Internet so it take all the packages from that I think
[05:05] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: maybe. I see that uhci_hcd is the usb mouse.
[05:05] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: the old kernel is unavailable
[05:06] <BenSmith> foxwoods:  I just used System>Administration>Create a USB Startup Disk
[05:06] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: not ext4 supported :)
[05:06] <Mean_Admin> saranya: yeah but the thing that lists the packages needs to update itself fro mtime to time
[05:06] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: you should still be able to install it, no?
[05:06] <sektor1952> Morning
[05:06] <pro1ove> xp in my Vbox cannot connect to the internet
[05:06] <foxwoods> BenSmith: did it work?
[05:06] <os11> http://paste.ubuntu.com/111557/, what do i do now?
[05:06] <_2> Mean_Admin sudo apt-get update
[05:06] <ghostdog21> Hey. Out there anybody which can help me? I need to get on my USB-HDD but after xp sp2 had made chkdsk while booting one folder on this harddisk wasn't shown anymore, so i tried to use my "rescue system" ubuntu, and i found the folder renamed into found.001 or something like - i cut and pste some files into another new folder and checked under win if i can use this. that worked - so i had decided to rescue the other files same
[05:06] <ghostdog21> (05:00:20) ghostdog21: ps: sorry 4 disturbing
[05:06]  * foxwoods also notes that origenal is misspelt
[05:06] <Mean_Admin> _2: no, I know, I'm telling saranya
[05:06] <sektor1952> I am trying to connect ot my x server via xdmcp I get the login box and I login, but I don't see anything after
[05:07] <sektor1952> any suggestions?
[05:07] <Mean_Admin> _2: but thanks :)
[05:07] <BenSmith> foxwoods: Its copying files right now. I guess Il find out
[05:07] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: the kernel is installed yes, but I cannot load the old kernel because it lags ext4 support
[05:07] <Mean_Admin> JesperHansen: ext4 should be semi-retrocompatible with ext3
[05:07] <foxwoods> Mean_Admin: he needs it for SSD
[05:08] <WIGGMPk> I installed updates last night but it fails when trying to configure the kernel (intrepid), can anyone please take a look and help?? http://paste.ubuntu.com/111158/
[05:08] <_2> ghostdog21 thanks for the trolling.   glad to hear it worked for you.
[05:08] <RediXe> Is there a way to run a script when the network comes up? Not sure where to call the script from. Also, how can I keep network manager from over writing /etc/resolv.conf?
[05:08] <john_> how can I tell if my wireless in ubuntu is using b or g
[05:08] <Mean_Admin> foxwoods: ssd drives need ext4??
[05:09] <hendershot> anyone know of a vista theme
[05:09] <Tiblet> john_: If it's connecting at over 11Mbps, you're using g
[05:09] <_2> RediXe /etc/network/*.d/
[05:09] <JesperHansen> Mean_Admin: not when doing a conversion from ext3 to ext4 to make the extended attributes
[05:09] <john_> thanks tibet
[05:10] <vigo> hendershot: have you used Compiz?
[05:10] <Mean_Admin> JesperHansen: I don't get it but I'm tired so we'll leave it at that
[05:10] <JesperHansen> but I found the rmmod psmouse makes the mousepad stop
[05:10] <JesperHansen> modprobe psmouse doesn't make it work again tho. :P
[05:10] <hendershot> vigo: compiz what is that
[05:10] <vigo> ! compiz
[05:10] <_2> JesperHansen it will when x is reset
[05:10] <blizzardman1219\> how do i install .deb packages in bash?
[05:11] <_2> blizzardman1219\ apt-get
[05:11] <john_> Tiblet the one thing is that Iam sitting across the room and sometimes I have only half of signal
[05:11] <BenSmith> Foxwoods: It worked.  Ill have to try it out later.  Thanks for your help. and the amazing links
[05:11] <_2> !dpkg > blizzardman1219\
[05:11] <hendershot> 10] <vigo> ! compiz
[05:11] <hendershot> [05:11] <hendershot> [00:10] <_2> JesperHansen it will when x is reset
[05:11] <FloodBot1> hendershot: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:11] <vigo> hendershot: compiz is like a 3d effects doohicky
[05:11] <hendershot> vigo: thatnks
[05:11] <hendershot> ok
[05:11] <hendershot> thanks
[05:12] <hellhound_> my graphic card worked fine with 8.04 but not after I upgraded.... if I boot into recovery mode, i can get a command prompt... how can I try another graphics driver version?
[05:12] <hellhound_> I just installed 8.10 and I installed the NVIDIA graphic driver version 177 and after I restarted the machine will not boot.  It stops at "Checking battery state"  I have a Nvidia GeForce 8600 GT.  Can anyone help me?
[05:12] <Tiblet> john_: I don't actually know how to check. I don't use wireless. The only bit I could offer to you is that if you're connecting at over 11Mbps it's using g. Sorry :-\
[05:12] <JesperHansen> _2: will you look at that, it just started working a minute after doing modprobe psmouse
[05:12] <hendershot> vigo do you know the command to get compiz?
[05:13] <john_> ok thanks Tiblet
[05:13] <sektor1952> I have cygwin installed my xp machine wiith X serv, when I type xnest :1 -ac -query <servername> I get a login prompt and login, but do not see anything except a grey box with the X any suggestions?
[05:13] <sektor1952> the server is ubuntu 8.10
[05:13] <_2> JesperHansen hmm new feature.   i have to restart x to get mine back to working when i do that
[05:13] <john_> I know I am over 11mbps
[05:13] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: http://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way is the only way I know to figure out default modules
[05:13] <broomhandle> what's a good alternative for anjuta for c++ compiling
[05:13] <webbi> hello
[05:14] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: once you get up to the configuration part, you should be able to see from there
[05:14] <hendershot> hello webbi
[05:14] <vigo> henderson: I would guess, sudo apt-get compiz,,,but I might be right,,,or wrong,,it is in the Synaptic packages manager
[05:14] <webbi> how can i disable for a while the automount utility?
[05:14] <Tiblet> john_: Then you're definitely running 802.11g. 802.11b does not go over 11.
[05:14] <hendershot> vigo: thanks
[05:15] <_2> webbi i hope someone answers that, i want to know too.
[05:15] <webbi> _2: cross finger
[05:15] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: scratch that, try this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=428839
[05:15] <shake001> did anybody know why an saved xorg.conf is after an restart set back to the last???
[05:15] <azhar27> Is anyone else having problems with latest kernel update to 8.04
[05:15] <_2>            how can i disable for a while the automount utility?
[05:16] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: yea, did some of those too
[05:16] <sektor1952> I tried various documents for XDMCP
[05:16] <wers> what are the advantages of networkmanager over wicd? i just installed wicd
[05:16] <saranya> how to extract a zip file in terminal
[05:16] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: But I found some info about the touchpad. "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" along with a few bug reports I'll look through
[05:16] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: then I don't know
[05:16] <shake001> saranyan try unzip
[05:16] <_2> saranya unzip file
[05:16] <saranya> what is the command
[05:16] <foxwoods> hellhound_:try booting in recovery mode
[05:16] <sektor1952> unzip
[05:17] <sektor1952> is the command
[05:17] <shake001> unzip file - unzips your zip file
[05:17] <phliver> ok question: why would this 'sudo rsync -ve ssh test phliver@scarface:/home/phliver/' try to log into scarface as root. sudo is needed because "test" is a file owned by root
[05:17] <foxwoods> then get to the terminal as root (one of the options)
[05:17] <_2> saranya sudo apt-get install unzip zip   # then you will have the command
[05:17] <foxwoods> hellhound_: then do a "sudo apt-get remove nvidia" and use auto-complete (tab) to see all the packages you can remove: remove ALL OF THEM
[05:17] <shake001> e.g. unzip test.zip @ saranya
[05:18] <foxwoods> hellhound_: then do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, you can follow most of the defaults there
[05:18] <azhar27> how to remove the latest kernel update
[05:18] <foxwoods> hellhound_: finally you should be able to boot, go to nvidia.com and get the latest driver, and run the file in there
[05:18] <foxwoods> hellhound_: then report back on how that worked.
[05:18] <_2> saranya also of note    zip != gzip    use gunzip on gzipped files
[05:19] <bobbyyu> Does Rhythmbox comes with MP3 Support?
[05:19] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/123775 this seems related since there's a "patch" that updates the touchpad specifically for the eeePC (which it is)
[05:19] <Flannel> !mp3 | bobbyyu
[05:19] <hellhound_> foxwoods: thank you i am trying now
[05:19] <philip_> im new.  so?
[05:19] <_2> Flannel know an answer for   <webbi> how can i disable for a while the automount utility?
[05:20] <vigo> So?
[05:20] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: good, that def seems related
[05:20] <Flannel> _2: there's an entry in gconf for it, but that's as specific as I know.  I'm sure its googleable
[05:20] <_2> webbi see flannel   ^
[05:21] <webbi> _2: i just found how to do it with xfce panel settings
[05:21] <webbi> _2: what are you using? gnome, kde?
[05:21] <Tweak66> question: when i installed ubuntu the status bars were animated.. now they are not. i've looked in compiz.. anyone know?
[05:21] <blizzardman1219\> ok um how do i install an application in bash when i have no internet connection but i do have the files on a mounted drive?
[05:21] <_2> webbi console most of the time.  but i like to know the secret switches for things like that.
[05:22] <foxwoods> hellhound_: how's it going so far?
[05:22] <vigo> phillip: read the MAN, if you do not know what the MAN is then read it again, welcome to Ubuntu-Linux Help /channel,,always make backup
[05:22] <_2> webbi i'm very  anti-automatic  in mindset
[05:22] <shake001> could anybody say me how i can save my xorg.conf ?? because if i save it white ctrl+o by nano the file is reset after an restart
[05:22] <webbi> _2: me too... but im forced to use ubuntu
[05:22] <webbi> _2: i love slack
[05:22] <shake001> and yes i open it white sudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:22] <foxwoods> shake001: are you using sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf? or did you do it without the sudo?
[05:22] <Tiblet> shake: did you edit the file with sudo?
[05:22] <shake001> +nano
[05:23] <_2> webbi :)   lenny seems pretty good too
[05:23] <WIGGMPk> Can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/111158/ I tried to install the new kernel last night via apt-get but it fails to configure it. Please advise
[05:23] <shake001> yes i open the file whit sudo
[05:23] <sunil_> are there any good themes for intrepid ?
[05:24] <shake001> but the file is reset to the last state after the restart - and i dont know why
[05:24] <foxwoods> shake001: and after writing, if you cat the file, does it look like you modified it?
[05:24] <Melik> http://omploader.org/vMTZ0Zg << hey guys, everytime i try to run banshee i get that error message, how can i fix this?
[05:24] <macman> has anyone installed vmware on ubuntu ?
[05:24] <foxwoods> hellhound_: any updates?
[05:25] <hellhound_> foxwoods: removed all nvidia packages and did the xorg reconfigure... rebooting now
[05:25] <jestin> #ccckc
[05:25] <_2> WIGGMPk  sudo dpkg --configure -a    # pastebin the results
[05:25] <Tiblet> If I wanted to reinstall ALSA to see if it fixes my problem, do I do 'apt-get remove alsa*' or only alsa-base or alsa-utils, anyone know?
[05:25] <shake001> the funny point is  if i restart my xserver everything is ok but if i restart the whole pc it doesent work anymore
[05:26] <blizzardman1219\> how do i unmount a drive? the command "unmount" doesn't exist?
[05:26] <HilBilly> umount
[05:26] <foxwoods> shake001: you didn't answer my question
[05:26] <shake001> oh sorry i didnt see one
[05:26] <WIGGMPk> _2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111558/ (results of sudo dpkg --configure -a)
[05:26] <shake001> wait i scroll up
[05:26] <_2> Tiblet no.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall alsa-base alsa-utils
[05:26] <ryanprior> sunil_: gnome-look.org
[05:26] <tof> umount  not un...
[05:27] <Tiblet> Thank you _2
[05:27] <webbi> _2: i will try if it works...
[05:27] <webbi> _2: good luck with that
[05:27] <shake001> yes after writing and saving it looks like i modified it
[05:27] <_2> webbi you too
[05:28] <aaroninfidel> where is the menu config located in Xfce/Xubuntu?
[05:28] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/297167 seems related
[05:28] <foxwoods> shake001: I don't know then, nothing should be overwriting your xorg.conf
[05:28] <ryanprior> macman: Yes, people have installed it.
[05:29] <ryanprior> macman: However, we recommend kvm for virtualization on Ubuntu.
[05:29] <foxwoods> hellhound_: how we doing with the dl from nvidia?
[05:29] <Tiblet> shake: maybe try enabling your root account and see if it works there?
[05:29] <shake001> hmmm ok then i have to modifie the file every restart :(
[05:29] <_2> WIGGMPk  sudo update-grub  # pastebin if it errors
[05:30] <WIGGMPk> _2: looks fine no errors
[05:30] <_2> ok run the dpkg --configre again
[05:30] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: sudo DEBCONF_DEBUG=developer sh -x /usr/sbin/update-grub ; echo $?
[05:30] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: pastebin that
[05:30] <shake001> but anyways thanks to everybody i try out some new things if it works . i will let you know :P
[05:31] <_2> WIGGMPk if it errors do what foxwoods said   ^
[05:32] <foxwoods> hellhound_ WIGGMPk, how goes it so far
[05:33] <spill> anyone use dansguardian?
[05:33]  * foxwoods wonders why it got quiet all of a sudden
[05:33] <WIGGMPk> foxwoods: _2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111559/ (the dpkg --configure didnt work again, so i went with foxwoods)
[05:33] <WIGGMPk> spill: a few times at customers houses and at work
[05:33] <_2> foxwoods just enjoy the calm,  don't anticipate the storm.  :)))
[05:34] <spill> WIGGMPk: i'm looking for a way to lock it down so even sudo can't kill it, anythoughts?
[05:34] <WIGGMPk> spill: thats prolly not possible to lock out sudo
[05:34] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: try reinstalling grub
[05:34] <WIGGMPk> spill: just limit the sudo users and dont give your password out
[05:34] <hellhound_> foxwoods: ok i have downloaded and installed the matching nvidia driver... rebooting now
[05:35] <WIGGMPk> foxwoods: im using gfxboot
[05:35] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: that's your problem
[05:35] <_2> ah.
[05:35] <WIGGMPk> foxwoods: I knew it... sorry for neglecting that info
[05:35] <spill> WIGGMPk: is there a way to make a dansguardian group, so that accounts can still use sudo just not turn off dansguardian?
[05:35] <_2> WIGGMPk maybe sudo mv `which update-grub` . ;sudo dpkg --configure -a
[05:36] <foxwoods> WIGGMPk: unfortunately.....you'll probably have to roll your own kernel....if _2 can't help
[05:36] <WIGGMPk> _2: 'which update-grub' could you explain?
[05:36] <_2> WIGGMPk just copy paste it to the terminal
[05:36] <WIGGMPk> spill: you can make a group that can edit dansguardian yes.. but if they have access to sudo that whats stopping them from adding themselves to the group
[05:37] <tof> how can i uninstall all xfce from ubuntu ??
[05:37] <tof>  i install it from repo just for check it
[05:37] <WIGGMPk> _2: i love you
[05:37] <foxwoods> hellhound_: you just ran the file from the download, right? No errors, eh?
[05:37] <JesperHansen> tof: install the package xubuntu-desktop
[05:38] <WIGGMPk> _2: can you walk me thru what just happend with that? everything installed fine no errors
[05:38] <blizzardman1219\> ok ubuntu server keeps having a kernel panic when i do "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper" to get my internet connection up
[05:38] <_2> WIGGMPk   sudo mv `which update-grub` . ;sudo dpkg --configure -a  #  the which command will find the exact path to the update-grub script  the entire command will move the update-grub script out of your path into your pwd    surely the rest is self explainitory.
[05:38] <jtaji> tof: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:38] <spill> WIGGMPk: hmm. man I have accounts that I need to be able to admin, but not turn off dansguaridan.  theres no way aroudn that is there?
[05:38] <WIGGMPk> _2: that is awesome....
[05:38] <JesperHansen> blizzardman1219\: anything in that last dmesg?
[05:38] <blizzardman1219\> fresh boot all 3 times JesperHansen
[05:38] <_2> WIGGMPk welcome.
[05:39] <hellhound_> foxwoods: no errors on the install but on reboot it will not go to X it just sits at "checking battery state" from the boot up process
[05:39] <WIGGMPk> spill: virtual machine.. put the content filter or entire proxy on a seperate box
[05:39] <WIGGMPk> _2: thank you for the explanation as well.. I really appreciate it
[05:39] <spill> WIGGMPk: well, this is my laptop?
[05:39] <_2> WIGGMPk you should probably run   sudo apt-get install -f  # just to make sure the package database is sain.
[05:39] <_2> sane
[05:39] <Tweak66> anyone know why i can't get DCC to work at all? default settings.. using Konversation... Ubuntu 8.1
[05:40] <_2> saighn
[05:40] <spill> WIGGMPk: I use it at work as well.
[05:40] <WIGGMPk> _2: nothing to install.. looks good.. thanks again
[05:40] <_2> np
[05:40] <bullgard4> [GNOME] System > Administration > System Monitor > View > differentiates 'All Processes' and 'My Processes'. What is the difference?
[05:40] <WIGGMPk> spill: im confused.. you run a content filter on your laptop?
[05:40] <ryanprior> spill: If you give somebody admin access to the laptop, of course they can disable dansguardian. Why would you let somebody administer the computer who can't be trusted with the web?
[05:41] <foxwoods> hellhound_: when you boot, edit the boot command line and get rid of quiet splash on the second and fourth line
[05:41] <WIGGMPk> _2: quick question while we are talking kernel's.. whats the best way to remove kernel images from /boot? will StartUP Manager do this by selecting "limit kernels"?
[05:41] <_2> foxwoods ffr   it's only a work-around, but moving the "update-grub" script out of the path will solve that error.   if they ever need it it's still where they put it.
[05:42] <Flannel> _2: why would you remove update-grub?
[05:42] <foxwoods> _2: that was a nice fix
[05:42] <foxwoods> Flannel: because WIGGMPk is using fgxboot
[05:42] <foxwoods> gfxboot*
[05:43] <_2> WIGGMPk best way "imo" is to use the package manager.  apt-get remove linux-image-$VERSION_HERE
[05:43] <wers> what are the advantages of networkmanager over wicd? i just installed wicd and I like the interface better
[05:43] <ryanprior> spill: If for some reason you really do need to work out this improbable setup, you probably don't want to give the user sudo -- instead, create a daemon that handles the needed administration tasks, and give them access to that.
[05:43] <Flannel> foxwoods: And he wants to not boot to a newer kernel? or what?
[05:44] <hellhound_> foxwoods: ok after restarting again I get the command prompt in normal mode chosen from grub.  The error I see is "kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/2a587f53-b29d-416b-8718-c4c2902134e7"      "kinit no resume image, doing normal boot..."
[05:44] <_2> Flannel because linux-image* uses update-grub in it's postinst script   but update-grub errors out and thus hangs dpkg out to dry.
[05:44] <jigp> hello how to install pdt-all-in-one-linux-gtk-2.0.0GA.tar.gz ?this is eclipse..
[05:44] <Flannel> _2: How does update-grub error?
[05:44] <indra> jihjor
[05:44] <X3S> Is necessary to install a firewall ?
[05:44] <X3S> when conected
[05:44] <_2> Flannel all i did was find a way to resolve the package management issue.
[05:44] <X3S> for security ?
[05:45] <genii> _2: Could always edit the post-install script
[05:45] <_2> Flannel exit code 19
[05:45] <_2> err
[05:45] <pjotr> jigp: sudo apt-get install eclipse
[05:45] <jigp> X3S : yes
[05:45] <_2> Flannel exit code 10
[05:45] <WIGGMPk> X3S: yes and no.. Ubuntu ships out of the box with no open ports
[05:45] <HelloNew> how to resolved dependencies for DeVeDe
[05:45] <WIGGMPk> X3S: if you host some services, than I would suggest a firewall
[05:45] <_2> genii would need done for each linux-image package
[05:45] <hellhound_> foxwoods: if I type startx i get "fatal server error" no screens found"
[05:45] <izinucs> HelloNew, install from the repos instead of compiling it.
[05:45] <Finnish> When I install a program, where does it install? I mean where the folder is?
[05:46] <X3S> WIGGMPk,  Host use ure ubuntu like a server ?
[05:46] <Tweak66> I love DeVeDe
[05:46] <_2> Finnish the download is to /var/cache/apt/archives/  the installation can be traced via this command:  dpkg -L $packagename
[05:47] <foxwoods> Flannel: given that grub isn't truly there, it's not surprising update-grub fails
[05:47] <genii> _2: Yes, this is true. And what about the LILO people etc? It should give an option of whether to update a bootloader it sees or knows about but otherwise not do anything auto
[05:47] <Flannel> foxwoods: Erm, what?
[05:47] <regeya> DeVeDe is nice.  I also like DVDStyler (mainly for putting home videos on DVD)
[05:47] <foxwoods> Flannel: similar problem here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/297167
[05:47] <blizzardman1219\> can someone help me get my wireless card working under ubuntu server?
[05:47] <Flannel> foxwoods: Are you using lilo instead?
[05:47] <foxwoods> hellhound_: please put in pastebin your xorg.conf file
[05:47] <WIGGMPk> X3S: yes, or like a teamspeak server for games or anything that will accept incoming connections
[05:47] <HelloNew> sudo apt-get install vcdimager ------- You will have to enable the component called 'universe' <---- what to DO?
[05:48] <Finnish> _2: Thanks for that, but I mean, is the actual Kino-folder there? Is there all the stuff that Kino holds?
[05:48] <HelloNew> sudo apt-get install vcdimager ------- You will have to enable the component called 'universe' <---- HOW to DO?
[05:48] <Flannel> !universe | HelloNew
[05:48] <_2> genii i agree totally,  unfortunately if it finds update-grub it runs it not asking anything.   that in my openion is a packaging error
[05:48] <X3S> WIGGMPk,  Ok thanks Im not using that currently XD
[05:48] <genii> _2: Maybe file a bug against it
[05:48] <_2> Finnish like i said    dpkg -L kino
[05:48] <_2> genii i can't file bugs,   long story.
[05:48] <Finnish> Oh, that. Thanks!
[05:49] <foxwoods> _2: long story???
[05:49] <foxwoods> Flannel: I know I've solved this in the past, but I can't remember: I've got boxes around the text boxes and fields in firefox, how do I get rid of that?
[05:49] <foxwoods> grey outlines*
[05:49] <JesperHansen> grub2 doesn't use /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[05:49] <WIGGMPk> Is there any way to administer a system (install, remove, change, etc) without the use of sudo ??
[05:50] <Flannel> WIGGMPk: What are you trying to accomplish?
[05:50] <_2> JesperHansen not unless the ubuntu packagers/developers changed it.   grub2 uses /boot/grub/grub.cfg
[05:50] <WIGGMPk> its complicated, can I take this to a private chat?
[05:50] <X3S> WIGGMPk,  I think Apps > Add/ Dell is usefull for that
[05:50] <Finnish> How do I "comment out" something in script?
[05:50] <_2> JesperHansen but the file you will want to change is /etc/defaults/grub
[05:51] <Flannel> WIGGMPk: If its long, you can pastebin and then post the question here.  That will save you from having to repeat it over and over again.
[05:51] <WIGGMPk> No, its quick but more private then public
[05:51] <Flannel> WIGGMPk: Alright
[05:51] <Alice22> .help webcam
[05:52] <Alice22> .info webcam
[05:52] <Alice22> Hello i have a webcam logitech and i want to instal it on my ubuntu...
[05:52] <bullgard4> [GNOME] System > Administration > System Monitor > View > differentiates 'All Processes' and 'My Processes'. What is the difference?
[05:53] <foxwoods> hellhound_: got your xorg.conf yet?
[05:53] <jsj0nes> Finnish: insert a # at the beginning of the line (or before any command for that matter)
[05:53] <Alice22> Enywhone ... see me ?
[05:53] <Alice22> Hello i have a webcam logitech and i want to instal it on my ubuntu...
[05:53] <nitam> hey, is anybody here ?
[05:53] <foxwoods> Flannel: sorry to bother you again, remember anything about grey outlines in firefox or no?
[05:53] <foxwoods> nitam: yes
[05:53] <nitam> hey foxwoods
[05:54] <nitam> Does anybody know if there is a way to boot a linux installed on a disc (grub is broke) from a linux CD, like net install cd from debian or any other linux install cd ? I mean, through the prompt or something ?
[05:54] <Flannel> foxwoods: No
[05:54] <izinucs> bullgard4, processes owned by you and processes owned by root
[05:55] <Alice22> Hello i have a webcam logitech and i want to instal it on my ubuntu...
[05:55] <bullgard4> izinucs: Do 'processes owned by root' include the 'processes owned by me'?
[05:56] <foxwoods> nitam: can you run the linux install cd, get to prompt, mount the drive, and then fix the grub menu.lst?
[05:56] <hellhound_> foxwoods: i am having to type it out to put in pastebin
[05:56] <foxwoods> nitam: how is your linux/grub broken
[05:56] <spill> Alice22: did you try just plugging it in?  go to the repositories and download the program called cheese.
[05:56] <foxwoods> hellhound_: can you see any section there with Screen?
[05:56] <foxwoods> Just pastebin that, and anything that references "Screen"
[05:56] <binarymutant> anyone else have a lot of updates today?
[05:56] <izinucs> bullgard4, not really sure about that.  viewable yes.. realistically I'm not sure.
[05:56] <mindrape> binarymutant: a few, yeah.
[05:57] <spill> Alice22: also skype is supported for liunx if you use that., cheese lets you take snake shots and video.
[05:57] <binarymutant> mindrape, a kernel update?
[05:57] <mindrape> yup
[05:57] <binarymutant> thanks
[05:57] <mindrape> 2.6.27-11
[05:57] <the6step> I have a question
[05:57] <Kruxer> I've got a problem with firestarter :(
[05:57] <mindrape> !ask | the6step
[05:57] <the6step> I did sudo aptitude install git
[05:57] <bullgard4> izinucs: Thank you very much for commenting. I will do some more snooping based on your comment.
[05:57] <hellhound_> foxwoods: yes
[05:57] <the6step> I did sudo aptitude install git, it says it installed, but typing git does nothing
[05:57] <Defcon1> so if I want to revert to an old kernel, how do i find out what I need to change on the gurb menu.lst
[05:57] <Alice22> spill:  i whant to use it on Kopete
[05:58] <Kruxer> when it's running my internet will destroy
[05:58] <foxwoods> hellhound_: then just type those sections and pastebin it
[05:58] <Kruxer> what should i do?
[05:58] <nitam> foxwoods, I'm looking for another way to do that, since I need to re execute grub-install ... I was thinking something like running root= or image= or boot= or whatever the option is, in order to boot my linux directly from the cd install prompt
[05:58] <foxwoods> Kruxer: destroy?
[05:58] <spill> Alice22: have you tried it yet to see if it works?
[05:58] <nitam> Im not even sure if such a thing is possible
[05:58] <Flannel> the6step: "git" isn't the same "git" that you're thinking of.  You want git-core
[05:58] <Kruxer> foxwoods, My Internet connection will disconnect :P
[05:58] <Alice22> spill:  Yes... and it doesen„t
[05:58] <foxwoods> Kruxer: do you really need firestarter?
[05:59] <Kruxer> foxwoods, yeah,for Internet connection sharing ...
[05:59] <ricecube> the last 2 days, I've been trying to duel boot Ubuntu 8.04 with Windows XP, and everything I try seems to make things worse...
[05:59] <foxwoods> Kruxer: ? connection sharing? it's a firewall, it's supposed to block most things........
[05:59] <JesperHansen> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/123775/comments/84 says to install gsynaptics-elantech from repos. I cant seem to find it tho in any of the main, universe, multiverse or restricted ones.
[05:59] <Alice22> spill:  Bus 005 Device 002: ID 046d:08dd Logitech, Inc. QuickCam for Notebooks
[06:00] <Kruxer> foxwoods, no...it has an option that can share Internet connection
[06:00] <Kruxer> between wlan0 and eth0
[06:00] <foxwoods> ricecube: http://www.psychocats.net
[06:00] <foxwoods> Kruxer: why would you want to share between wlan0 and eth0?
[06:00] <foxwoods> Kruxer: what are you trying to accomplish?
[06:01] <wolf_> After the laTest update in ubuntu, I no Longer have sound
[06:01] <spill> Alice22: hmm, thats a bit above my experience.  :) sorry.
[06:01] <Kruxer> foxwoods, I've got a lan network and i want to share internet between eth0(that Internet comming from) and wlan0(the wireless network)...
[06:01] <_2> !selinux > WIGGMPk
[06:01] <Defcon1> so if I want to revert to an old kernel, how do i find out what I need to change on the gurb menu.lst
[06:02] <evilGUI> I have a server I setup for use as a webserver I used Ubuntu Server, Apache, PHP, mySQL and Wordpress is the only web app I'm going to run is there anything else I need to do to secure my server?
[06:02] <Kruxer> foxwoods, ?
[06:03] <sleepy_cat> c_nick
[06:03] <evilGUI> The only port I have open on my webserver is 80
[06:03] <hellhound_> foxwoods:  ok here is the pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/m13831630
[06:04] <_2> Defcon1 if the newest kernel is not working for you. and you want to ignore it until a patch comes out, you could just rm the /boot/vmlinux-version and update your boot loader
[06:04] <evilGUI> I'm also using very long random strings of text for passwords I can't think of anything else I would need to do to secure this system any ideas?
[06:05] <ricecube> foxwoods: the link you gave doesn't provide info about the configuration I'm trying to set up.
[06:05] <Defcon1> ok, my issue is the new kernel does not allow me to run my old vitual box machine and I am trying to boot the old kernel so I can use it
[06:05] <Defcon1> unless there is a good way to fix that another way
[06:05] <mindrape> Defcon1 - do you use vmware or virtualbox?
[06:06] <mindrape> ah... nevermind, I'm retarded
[06:06] <Finnish> How do I uninstall svn-version of ffmpeg?
[06:06] <mindrape> Defcon1 - just recompile it... it needs to be updated to use newest kernel modules
[06:06] <Defcon1> virtualbox
[06:06] <n8tuser> evilGUI -> you still can run iptables
[06:06] <mindrape> Finnish - probably dpkg --remove
[06:06] <Wicked> !partition
[06:06] <Kruxer> !ics
[06:06] <evilGUI> n8tuser: So just setup iptables?
[06:06] <Kruxer> !firestarter
[06:07] <Finnish> mindrape: could you help a bit more?
[06:07] <mindrape> Finnish - dpkg -l ffmpeg
[06:07] <n8tuser> evilGUI-> yes
[06:07] <evilGUI> alright thanks
[06:07] <Defcon1> mindrape: I use virtualbox
[06:07] <mindrape> Finnish - you can either sudo apt-get remove ffmpeg or dpkg --remove ffmpeg
[06:07] <mindrape> either should work
[06:08] <mindrape> Defcon1 - recompile it.
[06:08] <JamesA_> !java
[06:08] <mindrape> Defcon1 - personally i prefer vmware 'cause it auto-rebuilds when a new kernel is installed
[06:08] <Defcon1> mindrape: I like the seamless mode of virtualbox
[06:08] <Defcon1> mindrape: how would one go about recompiling?
[06:08] <JamesA_> !oberon
[06:08] <Finnish> mindrape: If I have ffmpeg already (not the svn-version), will it take both away?
[06:09] <Kruxer> foxwoods, ?
[06:09] <Kruxer> !ping
[06:09] <ricecube> Can somebody help me figure out why grub won't install?
[06:10] <Kruxer> ricecube, what's the problem?
[06:10] <quibbler> ricecube, can you explain more concisely what you problem is with duel boot
[06:10] <ricecube> I'll try...
[06:10] <mindrape> Finnish - dpkg -S ffmpeg   <--- I believe that will give you the full name of the pkg.
[06:11] <surabaya> hqai
[06:11] <JesperHansen> foxwoods: got mouse lag down to 2-3px per move on the mousepad, but still too much :p
[06:13] <ricecube> I've tried installing windows xp and ubuntu 8.04 in various different orders, and when I boot, it always gives and error like, "No operating system!" or takes me to "grub>"  I keep getting error 15 and 17 when I try to install grub using my live cd following the instructions found on ubuntuforums
[06:14] <mindrape> !grub | ricecube
[06:14] <Agent_bob> !info grub2
[06:14] <ricecube> *sigh*
[06:14] <ricecube> I've look at all of those
[06:15] <mindrape> ricecube - well I can google error 15 and 17 grub ubuntu for you... but I figured you already did.
[06:15] <ricecube> yes, I've searched extenively
[06:15] <Agent_bob> ricecube grub2 might work for you
[06:15] <Agent_bob> lilo might too
[06:16] <ricecube> ugh... I don't want to have to mess with lilo every time I update my kernel
[06:16] <Agent_bob> i use partitionless systems, and grub is too weak to boot them   but grub2 works smoothly
[06:17] <ricecube> what's the difference in grub that would make it work for me as opposed to grub
[06:17] <Agent_bob> Q what's the differance between a duck ?
[06:17] <Agent_bob> A one leg is both the same.
[06:17] <foxwoods> Kruxer: you can't do that through a pc as far as I know kruxer....you need a router
[06:18] <Defcon1> mindrape thanks I got it all figured out
[06:18] <foxwoods> JesperHansen: :(
[06:18] <ricecube> Fixed: what's the difference in grub2 that would make it work for me as opposed to grub
[06:18] <sockets> how do i change the "url" in the minimal cd - us.archive.ubuntu.com is erroring on packages due to timeouts i'm guessing
[06:18] <foxwoods> hellhound_: sorry, was away trying to fix an amarok problem
[06:18] <nickrud> ricecube, the ubuntu version has a command, update-grub , that automatically adds all the kernels to the boot option. It's run as part of the kernel upgrade
[06:18] <Kruxer> foxwoods, I did it 1 min ago :D thanx ;)
[06:18] <hellhound_> foxwoods:  no problem.... here is the pastebin of xorg    http://pastebin.com/m13831630
[06:19] <Kruxer> !repeat
[06:19] <Agent_bob> ricecube grub2 uses much more advanced filesystem support than the old grub (relying on bios for everything) did.
[06:19]  * nickrud realizes he should have read back more than 2 pages
[06:19] <ricecube> ok, I'll try that, but I also have another problem that came up
[06:20]  * JesperHansen looks at the windows install disc in despair 
[06:20] <foxwoods> hellhound_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111570/
[06:20] <sockets> how do i change us.archive.ubuntu.com in the minimal iso?
[06:21] <mindrape> edit /etc/apt/sources.list?
[06:21] <ricecube> I deleted my mbr and partition table then repartitioned, and now my bootable windows install cd don't work
[06:21] <sainath> i have written a small libwnck program to switch into neighbor workspace and activates it. but when i execute it,it returns null
[06:21] <foxwoods> hellhound_: try replacing that screen line with what I have, then try another startx
[06:21] <foxwoods> hellhound_: also, if you have any other differences with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/111571/ let me know
[06:22] <sainath> the prog is working in another sys
[06:22] <AdrianThorn> I'm trying to install a past version of Thunderbird, I think I did it right but I can't get it to start.
[06:22] <sainath> but not on mine
[06:22] <AdrianThorn> Can someone help?
[06:23] <hellhound_> foxwoods: made changes... rebooting now
[06:23] <mindrape> AdrianThorn: pull up a terminal and run Thunderbird... see if it gives you an error
[06:23] <therootest> hello. i have a question about computers, but it hasnt much to do with ubuntu. Is anyone there to help me?
[06:24] <mindrape> AdrianThorn: ps aux | grep "thunderbird" see if it is perhaps defunct?
[06:24] <weird> hi there
[06:24] <foxwoods> hellhound_: you shouldn't have to reboot, next time just type startx
[06:24] <ricecube> !ask | therootest
[06:24] <mindrape> therootest: this is ubuntu support... ask the Q and if it is too far off topic we'll tar and feather you...
[06:24] <sainath> mindrape:i have written a small libwnck program to switch into neighbor workspace and activates it. but when i execute it,it returns null
[06:25] <wers> how do i do this?-->  The person who is giving support needs to have port 5500 open to their machine which requires a port forward on a NATed network.
[06:25] <AdrianThorn> mindrape: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:25] <mindrape> sainath: I'm not familiar with libwnck and can't help you troubleshoot it, sorry.  If you'd like help with a shell script I can help w that.. or perhaps java or perl or php?
[06:25] <hellhound_> foxwoods: startx reported no screens again and reboot stops at "checking battery state...." without launching kdm
[06:25] <foxwoods> Kruxer: nice find.....didn't know you could do that
[06:25] <codeshah> hey guys, how would I search and replace something in all files recursively in subdirectories?
[06:25] <mindrape> AdrianThorn: well its time to google that error message along with the word "ubuntu" and see what package it needs you to     sudo apt-get install
[06:25] <sainath> mindrape :thanks
[06:25] <hellhound_> foxwoods: no changes that I noticed
[06:26] <foxwoods> hellhound_:can you boot to the command line and tell me the error when you try startx?
[06:26] <mindrape> codeshah: awk
[06:27] <mindrape> wers - login to your router
[06:27] <AdrianThorn> mindrape: I found the package and it says a dependence for the package isn't satisfiable
[06:27] <AdrianThorn> mindrape: I assume I have to download that too
[06:27] <wers> mindrape, and then?
[06:27] <mindrape> wers - 192.168.1.1 most likely - ifconfig to find out... login and there should be options to configure port forwarding.
[06:28] <mindrape> AdrianThorn: apt-get oughta auto-resolve dependency issues
[06:28] <mindrape> AdrianThorn: but yes, install whatever it asks for... :P
[06:28] <mindrape> wers - do you use netgear? linksys? what kind of router?
[06:28] <foxwoods> hellhound_: if it still doesn't work, do the following: in your xorg.conf, change the Device 'nvidia' line to Device 'nv', then you can use kdm normally.....if you want to try getting official nvidia drivers again, redo the uninstall of ALL NVIDIA things, grab the 180.22 driver from nvidia.com, run the command again, etc.
[06:28] <wers> mindrape, linksys
[06:29] <mindrape> wers - http://192.168.1.1 in a browser... if it asks for login/password try           admin:admin        or admin:password      or admin:<no pass>
[06:29] <wers> mindrape, linksys wrt54g wireless connected to another linksys lan
[06:29] <wers> i'm logged in already
[06:29] <hellhound_> foxwoods: "Failed to load module "type1" (module does not exist,0)"  "no screens found"
[06:29] <mindrape> wers - is there an Applications and Gaming tab?
[06:29] <TheEdge_> how do i see witch program that are running in the back
[06:29] <therootest> i want to buy iPC 400 by Tortola. But it hasnt a x86 processor, it has the Ingenic JZ4730 366GHz MIPS32 processor. Is ubuntu ok with this architecture?
[06:30] <wers> mindrape, yep. i'm there now
[06:30] <mindrape> wers - if so click on that and pick the port ranges you want ie;      5500 - 5500    and forward it to    5500:5500  to your LAN ip
[06:30] <JesperHansen> damnit... I keep getting this message when trying to run gsynaptics http://i35.tinypic.com/flliqp.png
[06:30] <mindrape> to find out your lan ip pull up a term and ifconfig    its like 192.168.1.100-105ish
[06:30] <andrew_> are the repositories slow as hell for anyone else
[06:30] <andrew_> i just install ubuntu and cant get over 30kb/s!~
[06:30] <mindrape> andrew_ - nope... speedy as ever for me... jealous?
[06:31] <andrew_> 245 updates
[06:31] <andrew_> would taek a year
[06:31] <nickrud> JesperHansen, have you restarted X?
[06:31] <andrew_> mindrape
[06:31] <andrew_> no
[06:31] <andrew_> guess ill just go back to windows
[06:31] <JesperHansen> nickrud: ctrl+alt+backspace'd yes
[06:31] <mindrape> k, fewer people in the repos for me... it'll be that much faster.  :P
[06:31] <AdrianThorn> that did it thanks, mindrape
[06:31] <mindrape> AdrianThorn: np  :)
[06:32] <hellhound_> foxwoods: when i replace "nvidia" with "nv" and startx i get "no devices detected"  instead of "no screens found"
[06:32] <nickrud> JesperHansen, odd ...
[06:32] <mindrape> wers - keep in mind that you need to actually have a process on your end listening for an incoming connection on 5500...
[06:32] <JesperHansen> Got this as xorg.conf http://pastebin.mozilla.org/612460
[06:32] <mindrape> wers - you can forward ports to your LAN ip all day but if no daemon is there to receive it his requests will fall on deaf ears... metaphorically
[06:34] <hellhound_> foxwoods: if it helps I do have two monitors and two of the GeForce  8600 GT cards on this computer...
[06:34] <andrew_> someone help me
[06:34] <foxwoods> hellhound_: sorry, I need your whole xorg.conf then
[06:34] <mindrape> JesperHansen: it appears you still need to make the entry that is causing the error for gsynaptics...
[06:34] <mindrape> whats wrong andrew_?  slow repos is all?
[06:34] <andrew_> Download Speed: 9965 kbps (1245.6 KB/sec transfer rate)
[06:34] <andrew_> Upload Speed: 8303 kbps (1037.9 KB/sec transfer rate)
[06:34] <andrew_> look at that
[06:35] <andrew_> yea
[06:35] <Gnea> !ask | andrew_
[06:35] <FloodBot1> andrew_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:35] <andrew_> How do i get a fast repository
[06:35] <andrew_> and what file do i edit
[06:35] <mindrape> /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:36] <Gnea> andrew_: you make sure you're using the correct country code and you keep trying until you hit a fast one in the round robin
[06:36] <bullgard4> Why is the process kondemand/0 running every few seconds on one Ubuntu 8.04.2 laptop but not on another ? It seems to be unrelated to the CPU frequency change rhythm indicated by the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet.
[06:36] <surabaya> sby
[06:36] <JesperHansen> mindrape: what entry are you refering to?
[06:36] <mindrape> Option  "SHMConfig"      "true"
[06:36] <hellhound_> foxwoods: ok give me a sec
[06:36] <freyyr> hi, i just got gutsy (finally) running on a g3 imac.  I'm trying to install gnash because adobe doesn't have a PPC binary.  whenever I go into mozilla  I get a gray box.  any suggestions?
[06:37] <gladio70> buongiorno ragazzi
[06:37] <JesperHansen> mindrape: did that as well. Then read "Note: Setting the "SHMConfig" option to "true" doesn't work in newer XOrg. Change it to "on"."
[06:37] <gladio70> volevo chiedervi l'ennesima cosa
[06:37] <JesperHansen> neither true nor on works
[06:37] <JesperHansen> gladio70: no
[06:37] <foxwoods> freyyr: did gnash install correctly?
[06:37] <Gnea> !it | gladio70
[06:38] <gladio70> sta minkia scusasse allora
[06:38] <freyyr> foxwoods: to my knowledge, yes.  I installed with "apt-get install gnash gnash-plugin-mozilla" and apt returned and installed without error
[06:38] <freyyr> foxwoods: unless there's a configuration step that I missed.
[06:38] <mindrape> JesperHansen: have you tried this?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad#shmconfig
[06:40] <the6step> I'm having problems with git on ubuntu, connecting somewhere that requires a virtual key
[06:40] <mindrape> the6step - have you googled the exact error message and the word Ubuntu?
[06:40] <hellhound_> foxwoods: ok here you go http://pastebin.com/m7727beca
[06:40] <the6step> it keeps saying bad key but I have the key in the proper place
[06:40] <Gnea> !git
[06:40] <the6step> mindrape: I have been looking for a while, I can't figure it out
[06:40] <mindrape> the6step - paste the exact error here (or pastebin if its longer than 2 lines)
[06:41] <mindrape> there is probably a #git too ya know..
[06:43] <the6step> mindrape: I have a linux server and a mac locally and I have no problem connecting
[06:43] <the6step> it's only on my ubuntu, which is why I'm asking here
[06:43] <JesperHansen> mindrape: interesting
[06:43] <JesperHansen> mindrape: testing it.
[06:43] <mindrape> k :)
[06:43] <foxwoods> hellhound_: you didn't add the two zeroes after "Screen0"
[06:43] <foxwoods> that line should read:     Screen      0  "Screen0" 0 0
[06:43] <the6step> http://dpaste.com/114563/
[06:44] <hawodi> am about loosing my brain! I have xampp with apache running on port 8080 and the default ubuntu apache installation listening on port 80 and I can run the two instances of apache together.
[06:45] <mindrape> hawodi - and... ?
[06:45] <hellhound_> foxwoods: my bad.. i had simply copied and pasted what I had in pastebin prior and forgot that I had indeed added the two zeros in the "ServerLayout" Section... I just check my xorg and it does state: Screen     0   "Screen0" 0 0
[06:45] <JesperHansen> mindrape: and it requires reboot I see. brb then
[06:46] <hawodi> mindrape, I need to run both the apache in xampp and the default apache installation at the same time.
[06:46] <foxwoods> hellhound_: then let's do the exact opposite...:P remove those zeroes, and try another startx
[06:46] <silv3r_m00n> hi there.... firefox doesnt look good in kde what can be done ?
[06:46] <KujiUn> Is there any way to install Ubuntu without going through the LiveCD desktop?
[06:46] <mindrape> hawodi - and it appears you are on different ports... as is required...
[06:46] <the6step> mindrape: I have pastebin above, and I did something else, pastebin is here as well: http://dpaste.com/114564/
[06:46] <mindrape> !install KujiUn
[06:46] <Flannel> KujiUn: Yes, get the alternate CD.  It's textmode and just as easy
[06:46] <foxwoods> hellhound_: oh, also, remove the line Load "type1"
[06:46] <hawodi> When one runs the other gives an error message saying another instance is already running. Yes am on different ports.
[06:46] <KujiUn> Okay. Thank you very much.
[06:47] <hawodi> mindrape: one is on port 80 while the other is on port 8080.
[06:47] <mindrape> hawodi: well maybe you just run apache w xampp and use VirtualHosts to split up traffic?
[06:47] <foxwoods> hellhound_: That's probably your problem.....seems that your NVIDIA install got botched, as I said before, remove all you can with sudo apt-get remove nvidia (AUTO-COMPLETE), then get 180.22 for linux from NVIDIA.com and run the file
[06:48] <codename> is it hard installing the new nVidia drivers?
[06:48] <mindrape> hawodi - explain what you are trying to accomplish... also, #apache may be a better place to ask this.
[06:48] <codename> The 180
[06:48] <hawodi> mindrape: the error I get:he rising risk of a systemic financial meltdown: the twelve steps to financial disaster
[06:48] <mindrape> codename - 'twas easy enough for me...
[06:48] <codename> so i just install the current drivers i have now
[06:48] <codename> and run the .sh file
[06:48] <codename> and im set
[06:48] <mindrape> !nvidia codename
[06:48] <mindrape> !nvidia
[06:49] <foxwoods> !nvidia | codename
[06:49] <mindrape> man, I'm forgetting my pipes tonight
[06:49] <foxwoods> :P no worries
[06:49] <hellhound_> foxwoods: i get "no devices detected" again... it also states xinit: Connection refused (errno 111): unable to connect to X server     and then: xinit: No such process (errno 3): unexpected signal 2
[06:49] <bullgard4> Why is the process kondemand/0 running every few seconds on one Ubuntu 8.04.2 laptop but not on another ? It seems to be unrelated to the CPU frequency change rhythm indicated by the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet.
[06:49] <hawodi> I need to run two different versions of php. Am using the xampp to run php4 while my default ubuntu lamp installation is php5.
[06:49] <peepsalot> is anyone else having trouble using google maps lately in firefox?  it displays a map, but the "Loading..." box at the top never finished, and I can't pan, zoom, etc.
[06:49] <foxwoods> ok hellhound_: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:50] <foxwoods> go through the steps, then do as I said above for retrying getting a decent nvidia driver if you aren't satisfied with the default
[06:50] <mindrape> peepsalot: just tried and it works like a champ for me.
[06:50] <ari_stress> anyone knows what package that can check for duplicate files?
[06:50] <transporter> can somebody help me find a good diary software for hardy
[06:50] <Slart> ari_stress: I think it's called fdupe
[06:51] <mindrape> peepsalot - restart browser and clear cache?  look in ~/.mozilla/firefox for "issues"?
[06:51] <mindrape> transporter - gedit?
[06:51] <mindrape> transporter - you wanna post to blogger or something?
[06:51] <peepsalot> mindrape, :-/ i don't know why, it stopped working for me a few days ago.  I have restarted the browser numerous times since then
[06:51] <Slart> ari_stress: sorry, fdupes
[06:51] <ari_stress> Slart: thanks. searching in synaptic
[06:51] <foxwoods> hellhound_: you good with trying that? I gotta go if you don't mind\
[06:52] <mindrape> peepsalot: try cd ~/.mozilla          mv firefox firefoxbackup    restart it
[06:52] <JesperHansen> mindrape: didn't work :S
[06:52] <transporter> mindrape: no not exactly i just want a good diary software wherein i can write down my daily thoughts and feelings maybe even add a few smileys and add photos
[06:52] <mindrape> transporter - sign up for a blog, make it private, dont invite anybody to read it..
[06:53] <hawodi> mindrape:I need to run two different versions of php. Am using the xampp to run php4 while my default ubuntu lamp installation is php5
[06:53] <foxwoods> transporter: maybe try zim
[06:53] <the6step> mindrape: I guess this is the problem, do you have any thoughts? 2nd to last post: http://groups.google.com/group/github/browse_thread/thread/d7e7c6edc961752e/b9461d39ec907d72
[06:53] <the6step> and the last post
[06:53] <the6step> I guess it is saying that sudo aptitude install git-core doesn't install git correctly?
[06:53] <the6step> and it needs to be added to the unix path? any ideas?
[06:53] <transporter> foxwoods: zim
[06:53] <transporter> ??
[06:54] <mindrape> the6step - http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm
[06:55] <user_> hi how do i get sound working ?
[06:55] <ari_stress> Slart: fdupes is command line. i found fslint, it's a gui
[06:55] <hellhound_> foxwoods: thank you for your help!
[06:55] <mindrape> user_        sudo lshw -C sound
[06:56] <hateeecs> can anyone recommend the best video card for ubuntu in a media center (ie DVI and HDMI)?  thanks
[06:56] <foxwoods> hellhound_: np
[06:56] <transporter> foxwoods; how can i see the screenshots
[06:56] <peepsalot> mindrape, hmm, i think it's one of my plugins.  i disabled a bunch and it's working again.  I'll try to pinpoint which one it is
[06:56] <mindrape> the6step - I recommend asking in #git about your error... I really have never used it.
[06:57] <the6step> mindrape: I'm absolutely sure now it has to do with a faulty installation
[06:57] <the6step> can you give me tips of how to reinstall? that link you gave me is gibberish to me
[06:57] <mindrape> that link was how to update your $PATH
[06:58] <user_> anyone know how i can get sound working on 8.10 ?
[06:58] <mindrape> user_ did you sudo lshw -C sound ?  what did it say?
[06:59] <mindrape> user_ specifically which module?
[06:59] <mindrape> user_ did you sudo alsamixer      and did you ensure all options were set to max volume?
[06:59] <transporter> mindrape: that would not be possible i want a software i don't want to create a blog
[07:00] <mindrape> transporter - well do you know of Windows software that you prefer?  Maybe run THAT with WINE?  www.winehq.org
[07:01] <transporter> i will have to check even windows diary software's are not free
[07:01] <mindrape> transporter - google these....          Kdiary; Ktagebuch; GTK Journal; Xournal, Zim; Kontact
[07:01] <user_> mindrape module=snd_intel8x0
[07:02] <transporter> mindrape: can u gimme a url wherein i can check the screenshots
[07:02] <DamienCassou> hi
[07:02] <DamienCassou> I've a font problem when I plug my external 24" monitor (wide). As soon as I use plug it to the laptop, the font becomes unreadable (some characters are replaced by rectangles). I'm on a fresh Ubuntu 8.10. Can somebody help me please?
[07:02] <mindrape> transporter - no, but I can teach you how to go to www.google.com and type in each of those and click the first or 2nd link in most cases to find screenshots...
[07:02] <DamienCassou> I've a macbook 4.1 and an intel graphic card
[07:02] <mindrape> transporter - I dont hold hands... if you want somebody to hold your hand go get a partner.
[07:03] <transporter> mindrape: oh thanx for the sarcasm the fact is that im googling it out but its not showing any results
[07:03] <mindrape> DamienCassou: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[07:03] <transporter> mindrape: i checked out zim diary software tried typing in zim nothing there is everything else but the screenshots
[07:03] <transporter> :p
[07:04] <DamienCassou> mindrape: ok, installing. Do I need to do anything else before retrying to plug my monitor?
[07:05] <user_> mindrape: i checked alsamixer and done the things you said the module=snd_intel8x0 ?
[07:05] <mindrape> user_ - well pastebin the lshw output for me and lsmod also
[07:05] <atom^x> transporter, http://zim-wiki.org/screenshots.html
[07:06] <transporter> thanx for the help atom^x
[07:06] <mindrape> DamienCassou - it could also be that you are trying to use too high a resolution on a graphics card that cant handle it.
[07:06] <transporter> :D
[07:06] <mindrape> DamienCassou: it may make sense to edit your xorg.conf and bump down the default res to like 1024x768 til you get it working
[07:06] <DamienCassou> mindrape: I don't think so because it worked on hardy
[07:07] <DamienCassou> mindrape: there nothing more on the xorg.conf than the virtual resolution
[07:07] <mindrape> DamienCassou: lspci -k        see which graphics driver you are presently using.
[07:07] <user_> mindrape: lsmod output lists snd_intel8x0
[07:07] <mindrape> user_ you sure you have your speakers plugged into the right sound port on the back?
[07:07] <DamienCassou> mindrape:  Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
[07:08] <DamienCassou> mindrape: Kernel modules: intelfb
[07:08] <mindrape> Damien - grep for "Kernel driver in use"
[07:09] <mindrape> ie;         lspci -k | grep "Kernel driver in use"
[07:10] <DamienCassou> mindrape: Kernel driver in use: agpgart-intel
[07:10] <mindrape> well if that is correct then just reboot and hope for wonderfully readable fonts.
[07:11] <_2> why is device_mapper module not in the ubuntu kernels or why is lilo still looking for it ???  http://pastebin.com/f302d497d
[07:12] <_2> also why does cat proc mounts list things mounted multiple times ?   http://pastebin.com/f5e43316b
[07:12] <DamienCassou> mindrape: thank you. I will try.
[07:12] <ari_stress> guys, how to defragment in ubuntu?
[07:12] <mindrape> !defrag
[07:12] <_2> ari_stress why  ?
[07:13] <ari_stress> _2: i just deleted many files, i thought i need to defrag, right? also i do lots of torrents
[07:13] <_2> ari_stress i doubt you need too.
[07:15] <_2> ari_stress i deleted the files from an entire installation and installed a different distro without formating the fs while retaining all my data 50g on an 80g drive in a lappy.   no problems there.
[07:15] <ari_stress> mindrape: i read the page. seems make sense. but with torrents, it has got to be fragmented somehow, right?
[07:15] <bullgard4> Why is the process kondemand/0 running every few seconds on one Ubuntu 8.04.2 laptop but not on another ? It seems to be unrelated to the CPU frequency change rhythm indicated by the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet.
[07:15]  * JesperHansen sees how ubuntu has gotten worse and worse for each release 
[07:16] <ari_stress> _2: can we measure the performance of our filesystem? to know whether the fragmentation level is still ok
[07:16] <_2> ari_stress yes indeed   fsck -f the thing
[07:17] <JesperHansen> ext4 is only available on alternative cd atm. for 9.04, right?
[07:17] <_2> ari_stress the highest i have ever seen yet is .5% non-contiguous
[07:17] <ari_stress> JesperHansen: better don't use ext4 yet, i read a bug of data loss
[07:17] <JesperHansen> ari_stress: screw data loss
[07:17] <Scubidus> Hey everyone
[07:17] <ari_stress> WARNING!!!  Running e2fsck on a mounted filesystem may cause
[07:17] <ari_stress> SEVERE filesystem damage.
[07:17] <jedi3> whats shaking
[07:18] <JesperHansen> Firefox hang is only ½ sec now against ext3 hang is 10sec
[07:18] <Scubidus> I have a problem with my wireless at the moment
[07:18] <Scubidus> I can get Ubuntu to recognize the card is there but It wont let me connect to any of the networks it displays
[07:18] <jedi3> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/dvd/current/
[07:18] <jedi3> any reason this doesnt work?
[07:18] <_2> jedi3 whole lot of shakin' goin' on.
[07:19] <mindrape> Scubidus: lspci -k       which driver you using?          sudo lshw -C network
[07:19] <jedi3> noot much, bored cant sleep. realized its time to get ubuntu installed on machine
[07:19] <jedi3> however no cds just dvds
[07:19] <mindrape> Scubidus: has it ever worked or just stopped working recently?
[07:19] <Scubidus> not really other than it only worked for me after I patched it
[07:19] <Scubidus> stopped working when I had to format the drive
[07:19] <mindrape> Scubidus: sudo iwconfig             does it show any wireless devices with wireless extentions?
[07:19] <Scubidus> and reinstalled ubuntu
[07:20] <mindrape> Scubidus: it could be as simple as sudo apt-get install linux-kernel-modules
[07:20] <Scubidus> yea I can't even get a wired at the moment
[07:20] <_2> jedi3 maybe because that is /dvd/current  ?
[07:20] <jedi3> yeah im looking for the dvd image
[07:20] <Scubidus> I'm goin to try to find my boxes real quick
[07:20] <_2> oh i misread
[07:20] <Scubidus> maybe I can get a hardwire in here
[07:20] <Scubidus> hold up
[07:20] <jedi3> ahah I fail hard at typing
[07:20] <ari_stress> _2: so, ext3 defrags itself on random time? can we see it in action?
[07:21] <mindrape> ari_stress - only w an electron microscope.. ?
[07:21] <syockit> I thought it does that through the journalling
[07:21] <syockit> and every fsck routine
[07:21] <lodder_> need some help with this: find -E . -type d -iregex "./[^/]*/S(eason|eries)[[:space:]]+[0-9]+" I get the error find: unknown predicate `-E' please help me resolve it
[07:21] <_2> ari_stress that i can't say,  there may be a process in /proc that one could watch,  not really sure.
[07:22] <syockit> lodder_: there's no -E in find. Where'd you get that?
[07:22] <lodder_> syockit: I find it on a web page
[07:23] <lodder_> syockit: can you help me use the correct line for this to work
[07:23] <mindrape> lodder - taking away -E does what?
[07:23] <syockit> can you tell the site? maybe it's for another shell
[07:24] <lodder_> mindrape: get no output
[07:24] <DamienCassou> mindrape: that didn't fix my problem :-(
[07:24] <_2> also you might want to use single quotes
[07:24] <whatev> i can't irc from my windows desktop at work because the firewall blocks it, but i can if i ssh to my linux server. is there any way i can somehow get my windows irc client to use ssh to my linux to let me irc?
[07:24] <Scubidus> Ill brb going to boot my Linux partition up and try
[07:24] <mindrape> lodder_ - hold, lemme make some Season 1-9 and Seires 1-5 directories real fast...
[07:25] <lodder_> mindrape: ok
[07:25] <codeyman> My filesystem has gone readonly.. anybody has any ideas?
[07:25] <codeyman> have tried using badblocks, ext2fsck .. no avail
[07:26] <DamienCassou> mindrape: in fact, I thought it did work because I didn't have any problems for a few seconds. Then the font became unreadable again. To set-up my dual screen, I use: xrandr --verbose --fb 1680x1850 --output TMDS-1 --auto --output LVDS --auto --below TMDS-1
[07:27] <_2> also why does cat proc mounts list things mounted multiple times ?   http://pastebin.com/f5e43316b
[07:27] <_2> and why is device_mapper module not in the ubuntu kernels or why is lilo still looking for it ???  http://pastebin.com/f302d497d
[07:29] <_2> and anyone know why permission on a users home dir would affect ssh  ?
[07:33] <ari_stress> The second scatters files all over the disk so there's plenty of free space if the file's size changes. It can also re-arrange files on-the-fly, since it has plenty of empty space to shuffle around. Very nice ext3 :)
[07:33] <_2> ari_stress yep
[07:33] <ari_stress> on-the-fly... nice to believe, hope so
[07:34] <_2> if you don't believe it, then we'll get you a magic feather that will help you fly...
[07:34] <bullgard4> Why is the process kondemand/0 running every few seconds on one Ubuntu 8.04.2 laptop but not on another ? It seems to be unrelated to the CPU frequency change rhythm indicated by the CPU Frequency Scaling Monitor applet.
[07:35] <ari_stress> :) i just wish that we can "watch" the show when it does that
[07:35] <Scubidus> alright I got a hard line
[07:35] <_2> bullgard4 because some daemon is calling it.
[07:35] <dinesh372> i am a beginner in shell scripting can anyone tell me which will be the best book to start
[07:35] <_2> bullgard4 if it runs long enough you can catch it with pstree
[07:35] <_2> dinesh372 man bash
[07:36] <lodder_> mindrape: can you still help me
[07:36] <oliver_> Why do people use Emacs and VIM?  Why not use netbeans or some other ide?
[07:36] <ari_stress> dinesh372: join #bash
[07:36] <_2> dinesh372 and remember that anything done on the command line can be put in a script.   and some things that cant.
[07:36] <Scubidus> can someone help me out with my wireless card
[07:37] <mindrape> lodder_ were you looking for directories?  find . -type d -iregex '.*\/Season.*[0-9]'      that part should work... lemme try to figure out the Series part...
[07:37] <mindrape> oliver_: they want to be more efficient probably...
[07:37] <DamienCassou> oliver_: I use eclipse to do Java programming but emacs for texts I have to write (like articles).
[07:37] <Paddy_EIRE> oliver_: The opposite could be said also... try and avoid polls and "better than's" on this channel it always ends up a flame war
[07:37] <dinesh372> _2: actually i want to know any good book for learning shell scripting
[07:37] <DamienCassou> mindrape: did you see that msttcorefont didn't solve my problem?
[07:38] <mindrape> DamienCassou: yeah... dunno man.  :(
[07:38] <Athenon_> Ok, so I have postfix installed...and it works fine...locally.  It won't allow any outside clients (ie over the internet) on...it gives me a "cannot establish connection" error like the server's running on a different port or doesn't exist...even though I specified my IP address in mynetworks.  Any ideas?
[07:38] <_2> dinesh372 but learning the basics of bash the best place to start  imo
[07:38] <Scubidus> I can get Ubuntu to recognize my card and even list the networks that are available to connect to when I go through
[07:38] <Scubidus> the manual configuration
[07:38] <DamienCassou> mindrape: ok. Do you know where I can ask?
[07:38] <oliver_> how is emacs and vim more effecient?
[07:38] <oliver_> just wondering, not trying to start a flame war
[07:38] <oliver_> <[07:38] <Paddy_EIRE> oliver_: try them and see
[07:39] <mindrape> oliver_ with about 8 keystrokes you can get more done in either of those than any bloated IDE.
[07:39] <_2> does netbeans require a gui ?
[07:39] <oliver_> I tried VIM
[07:39] <DamienCassou> oliver_: lot of shortcuts to move your cursor. never have to use the mouse. You can easily open distant files or edit files as root...
[07:39] <jtaji> dinesh372: check out two bash guides here http://tldp.org/guides.html
[07:39] <_2> does netbeans require a gui ?
[07:39] <dinesh372> _2: actually i am unable to understand what u told me first time
[07:39] <oliver_> _2, yeah
[07:40] <oliver_> so emacs and vim are only good for shortcuts and not using mouse?
[07:40] <_2> dinesh372 oh.    the command    man bash   # opens the documentation for bash
[07:40] <pogztimz> there is no sound in my computer after i updated? any idea how to fix this problem?
[07:40] <Paddy_EIRE> !ot | oliver_
[07:40] <Athenon_> inet_interfaces is all.....
[07:40] <oliver_> ok sry
[07:40] <_2> oliver_ that alone is enough reason to say  vi.* emacs > netbeans
[07:41] <Athenon_> like i said, it works fine locally...telnet localhost 25...connects fine....but anywhere else...no go
[07:41] <kodokijo> haii
[07:41] <_2> oliver_ neither of those need a gui
[07:41] <pogztimz> hi everyone, there is no sound in my computer after i updated? any idea how to fix this problem?
[07:42] <Paddy_EIRE> !repeat | pogztimz
[07:42] <bullgard4> _2: Is there an English word like 'hunter's luck'? I seem to have lost it. Now kondemand/0 is not running every few seconds any more, and I do not know why. It run very short then, anyway. So it seems I cannot use pstree for answering the question put.
[07:42] <_2> oliver_ if you like gui IDE's  maybe try kdevelop
[07:43] <_2> bullgard4 lol  yeah.   called  "^&#$^^#"  but can't be pronounced in this channel  :)
[07:43] <ari_stress> _2, http://geekblog.oneandoneis2.org/index.php/2008/11/13/fighting-fragmentation-on-linux says i must separate the partition for torrents for performance
[07:44] <dinesh372> _2: ok you want me to firstly learn about bash
[07:44] <[kev]> hi, I have this program , gmail notifier for ubuntu -- how can i make it start automatically when i run ubuntu?
[07:44] <_2> ari_stress dinesh372 yeah,  that will fill in the blanks on writing shell scripts
[07:45] <afd_> hi! is there a repository that packages the latest nvidia beta drivers?
[07:45] <Scubidus> Can someone help me with my network card I can get the OS to recognize that its there, even go so far as list the possible networks, though it won't let me connect using it
[07:46] <ari_stress> [kev]: system > prefrences > sessions
[07:48] <dayo_> .
[07:49] <nightrid3r> i have to setup an tlsp server but there's 1 windows vista pc that also needs connection to the ltsp server, you know of a windows client i can use, it must be very simple
[07:53] <_2> dinesh372  http://bash-hackers.org/wiki/doku.php/scripting/tutoriallist
[07:54] <mindrape> dinesh372: this is the one that I learned from... http://wooledge.org:8000/BashGuide  (first on the list in the link _2 gave you)
[07:54] <dli> wubi question. how do I recover passwd for wubi installation?
[07:56] <wormdrink> Hi
[07:56] <wormdrink> everybody
[07:56] <wormdrink> how do i select gcc version ?
[07:56] <Diehardy> hello
[07:56] <_2> dli boot to single user mode (recovery mode) and copy /etc/passwd~ to /etc/passwd    and /etc/shadow~ to /etc/shadow   note that can erase users frewhly added too.  you might be better resetting the password with   passwd username
[07:57] <_2> freshly
[07:57] <Athenon_> ok....and it works when i throw it on a different port.........firewall blocking it?
[07:57] <wormdrink> say i have 4.3 and 4.2
[07:57] <wormdrink> how do i change from 4.3 to 4.2
[07:57] <owen1> i want to burn a file onto a dvd. i insert empty dvd. where is it located?
[07:58] <carpii> is this a riddle?  I think its located in your dvd drive, where you just put it
[07:59] <wormdrink> no i think he means path
[07:59] <wormdrink> to device
[07:59] <wormdrink> or something
[07:59] <carpii> hehe yeah, i was just teasing :p
[07:59] <wormdrink> lol
[07:59] <_2> it's still a riddle
[08:00] <_2> here's the answer  http://pastebin.com/f21d535bd
[08:00] <_2> ummm may not work correctly on notebooks that can't close their own drive
[08:00] <skeebo>  /server irc.spotchat.org
[08:01] <ari_stress> _2: nice tool: http://tips4linux.com/check-fragmentation-levels-on-ext3-files/
[08:02] <O__o> hi how to connect vnc?
[08:02] <O__o> i always get this error  open failed: connect failed: Connection refused
[08:03] <ari_stress> oh sh**, my drive is really fragmented
[08:03] <Scubidus> So can someone help me with my wireless?
[08:04] <houyan> i'm on a macbook pro v4,1 i'm using ubuntu 8.10; i have sound 'leakage', i.e. i plug in my microphones, i watch a movie, and people can still hear some sound of the movie
[08:04] <Slart> ari_stress: noone said ext3 didn't fragment.. it just don't affect performance the same way it does to ntfs and friends
[08:04] <Athenon_> no, iptables looks fine...but why isnt the dang server receiving the traffic and responding?  it's not throwing any loggable errors -_-
[08:04] <ari_stress> Slart: 300[2006]DvDrip[Eng]-aXXo.avi: 5211 extents found, perfection would be 6 extents. 5000 frags
[08:04] <ari_stress> :(
[08:05] <Slart> ari_stress: yup.. I've got files like that too
[08:05] <ari_stress> Slart: hmm.. i thought it does defrag on-the-fly :(
[08:06] <Slart> ari_stress: you can wait until ext4 becomes standard.. it comes with a defragger
[08:06] <Slart> ari_stress: nah.. it creates files a bit differently than windows does.. but I don't think it defragments automatically.. not that I know of at least
[08:06] <ari_stress> Slart: nice to hear that. great
[08:06] <nightrid3r> !info pgdb
[08:07] <_2> !info filefrag
[08:07] <ari_stress> ubottu is wrong, i have filefrag in 8.10
[08:07] <Slart> _2: it isn't a package.. it's just an application.. I think its in some other package
[08:07] <Slart> !find filefrag
[08:07] <Alex_21> Hi, all, I have no sound on my box. It is a fresh install of Ubuntu PPC 8.04 and I am using a G4 Digital Audio Powermac tower
[08:07] <Alex_21> Any help to get it working is greatly appreciated
[08:08] <^TuTTiLiberi^502> ciao
[08:08] <^TuTTiLiberi^502> !list
[08:08] <_2> Slart maybe use that on it to see  http://pastebin.com/f6d7c2546
[08:08] <nightrid3r> !find pgdb
[08:09] <Slart> _2: or just !find filefrag in this channel.. or use apt-file
[08:09] <ari_stress> oh man torrent really mess up my drive. need to reformat and separate it into another partition
[08:09] <_2> Slart that doesn't tell me what provides it.   apt-file would
[08:09] <Slart> ari_stress: try to make the client create the entire file when you start a torrent.. instead of adding to it constantly
[08:10] <ari_stress> Slart: can we do that? i use ktorrent
[08:10] <Slart> _2:  "File filefrag found in e2fsprogs, e2fsprogs-dbg, manpages-fr-extra, manpages-ja" that doesn't tell you?
[08:10] <_2> Slart i mean obviously package manpages-fr-extra does not provide  filefrag executable
[08:10] <Slart> _2: we didn't say we wanted an executable
[08:10] <_2> like duh
[08:10] <codeyman> hi Slart..
[08:11] <Slart> hey codeyman
[08:11] <codeyman> Slart: Still stuck in read only file system :(
[08:11] <codeyman> found this in dmesg: kernel: EXT3-fs: INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem. ... kernel: EXT3-fs: write access will be enabled during recovery. kernel: EXT3-fs: recovery complete. ... kernel: EXT3-fs: mounted filesystem with ordered data mode.
[08:12] <Slart> codeyman: and fsck didn't find anything wrong? no other errors?
[08:12] <_2> codeyman   root fs ?
[08:12] <compguy1101> anyone know why ubuntu remix wont come out of sleep if you leave it for like longer then an hour?
[08:13] <_2> codeyman you can   sudo mount -no remount,rw /  # to make it writable so you can fix things.
[08:13] <codeyman> Slart: fsck didn't find anything
[08:13] <_2> assuming it's the root fs which you didn't answer
[08:13] <codeyman> _2: fix what?
[08:14] <_2> you said you were in readonly fs ?
[08:14] <_2> you obviously can't change anything in a ro fs
[08:14] <codeyman> I can use livecd/mount .. -remount to make the partition readable..
[08:14] <codeyman> and change it
[08:14] <codeyman> but after reboot.. it drops back to the read only state
[08:14] <Alex_21> Help with PPC sound anyone?
[08:14] <Alex_21> Please
[08:14] <ari_stress> codeyman: maybe the /etc/fstab is wrong
[08:15] <compguy1101> Alex_21, whats up
[08:15] <codeyman> nope.. its fine
[08:15] <codeyman> that was the default
[08:15] <_2> codeyman so find out why it's not remounting rootfs rw and change it.
[08:15] <ari_stress> codeyman: what caused the ro?
[08:15] <_2> ari_stress exactly.
[08:15] <codeyman> _2: :D .. thats what am trying
[08:16] <ari_stress> codeyman: i mean the history, maybe power outage?
[08:16] <codeyman> ari_stress: no poweroutage.. only thing I did before was install libsplashy.. then reinstalled usplash
[08:17] <codeyman> maybe initramfs is conked in the process.. but i did update-initramfs -c to get a new one
[08:17] <ari_stress> codeyman: oh.. hmm.
[08:17] <codeyman> that didn't help either
[08:17] <_2> messed up initramfs then.    rebuild it.
[08:17] <phenom> Out of curiosity,, has any one been noticing problems with firefox recently?
[08:17] <badserii> Hi, does someone have experience with ssh tunneling for mysql ? I had it done, but when mysql is in use, and when I do a netstat -vuptan on the client machine, there are plenty connections with TIME_WAIT status. Is it normal, of if not, how to correct this. Thank you in advance!
[08:17] <codeyman> did update-initramfs -c , dpkg-reconfigure linux-image, update-grub
[08:17] <codeyman> did all google could come up with
[08:18] <ari_stress> codeyman: how about reinstalling the kernel
[08:18] <codeyman> reconfigure kernel image is as good as that I think
[08:18] <Slart> phenom: works nicely here on 64bit.. but i've got a restart waiting for me since the last batch of libc updates I think
[08:18] <_2> codeyman ok.  are you in the real system or in the live cd ?
[08:19] <codeyman> am booted off on a live usb on the machine that is giving me grief
[08:19] <_2> codeyman ok what is the device node ?   sda2 ???
[08:19] <codeyman> sda8
[08:20] <codeyman> for /
[08:20] <_2> codeyman ok.  sudo umount /dev/sda8 && sudo fsck -f /dev/sda8
[08:20] <phenom> I'm having issues with firefox "locking the sound" as things go, which crashes totem etc; it won't allow me to input searches in to the google mini taskbar occasionally, and when that happens when I click on a link it open in a new tab instead of redirecting the current one.. It's real odd, but I am getting that on 2 ubuntu boxes and an Etch box.
[08:20] <codeyman> i did that
[08:20] <_2> with -f ?
[08:20] <codeyman> yes
[08:20] <codeyman> then with -c
[08:21] <phenom> So I'm thinking a recent update screwed up FF.
[08:21] <phenom> :/
[08:21] <ari_stress> phenom: that's so strange
[08:21] <_2> codeyman ok.  tune2fs -l /dev/sda8     and pastebin it.
[08:21] <codeyman> ok
[08:22] <phenom> And I actually notice a problem updating these last 20 acpid updates on both ubuntu boxes :P
[08:22] <phenom> Lol, bad week of updates.
[08:22] <Alex_21> Help with PPC sound anyone?
[08:22] <Alex_21> Please
[08:22] <ari_stress> phenom: i've just ran update this morning, things seem fine
[08:22] <compguy1101> Alex_21,  i asked you once
[08:23] <ari_stress> btw, can we run nautilus as root? how
[08:23] <ari_stress> i mean other than sudo nautilus
[08:23] <compguy1101> you have to ask the question for us to help you, or you can try google
[08:23] <Slart> ari_stress: gksudo nautilus.. but be careful
[08:23] <Alex_21> Hi, all, I have no sound on my box. It is a fresh install of Ubuntu PPC 8.04 and I am using a G4 Digital Audio Powermac tower
[08:23] <Alex_21> Any help is greatly appreciated
[08:23] <Slart> !gksudo | ari_stress
[08:23] <phenom> ari_stress, sudo nautilus
[08:23] <phenom> ahh
[08:23] <compguy1101> Alex_21, did you do all your updates?
[08:24] <ari_stress> Slart: thanks. that's great tip, all this time i thought it was sudo
[08:24] <Slart> ari_stress: thank ubottu =)
[08:24] <Slart> !botsnack
[08:24] <_2> !helpersnack | slart
[08:24] <codeyman> _2: http://pastebin.com/m6fb9edbf here you go
[08:25] <Slart> Yum! Err.. bah.. you know the rest...
[08:25] <_2> codeyman that's ext4 ?
[08:26] <codeyman> ext4 isn't live yet!!
[08:26] <codeyman> this is regular ext3 on ubuntu 8.10
[08:26] <codeyman> 64bit
[08:27] <_2> oh 64  ok
[08:27] <codeyman> why do you say ext4?
[08:27] <Ch1ppy> Hey. I got a segfault while processing the triggers for gxine during an upgrade, so I ran "dpkg --configure -a" and now am getting "dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed." Can anyone help me out?
[08:28] <quentusrex> How do I add a particular user or group the ability to read and write to a directory?
[08:28] <quentusrex> I'd like two groups to be able to read/write to a directory
[08:29] <ari_stress> quentusrex: use filesystem acl
[08:29] <ari_stress> !setfacl
[08:29] <hellhound_> after installing 8.10 and then installing the restricted nvidia driver, I am not longer able to boot into x ... i just get the command prompt... startx reveals no devices found     can anyone help?
[08:29] <ari_stress> quentusrex: sudo setfacl -m u:user1:rw /path/somedir
[08:31] <_2> codeyman humour me,  sudo umount /dev/sda8 ;sudo fsck -f /dev/sda8  #pastebin the results.  i know it's marked clean   and if that says it's all clean then the issue is in either the "root=" or in the /etc/fstab
[08:31] <_2> or the init script.   not likely unless you have been playing in /etc/init.d/
[08:32] <Donny> Hello, Im having a problem connecting to my router with my wireless card. The driver is installed and working but i cant seem to connect .. anyone have an idea?
[08:32] <codeyman> _2: as i said.. I was playing with a library that could have messed with init.d or initramfs
[08:33] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[08:33] <Alex_21> Good night
[08:33] <codeyman> _2:http://pastebin.com/m4b99af16
[08:33] <_2> codeyman k sec.
[08:33] <nivek> hi, can someone help me -- my screen resolution is crap right now ... its like my nVidia card has no driver or something?...
[08:34] <_2> codeyman ok.   mount /dev/sda8 /mnt
[08:34] <codeyman> and..
[08:34] <_2> codeyman mount | grep sda8
[08:35] <_2> codeyman ?
[08:35] <codeyman> _2:/dev/sda8 on /home/ubuntu/tmp type ext3 (rw)
[08:35] <_2> that's  (rw)   so it's not the fs
[08:35]  * werdnum waves
[08:35] <codeyman> _2: this is from liveusb.. hope we are on the same page
[08:35] <werdnum> I get this error when trying to play an AVI file with VLC -- [????????] x11 video output error: X11 request 141.19 failed with error code 11: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[08:35] <co_setia> hy
[08:36] <_2> now.  grep ' / ' /mnt/etc/fstab
[08:36] <_2> codeyman yes same page.
[08:36] <_2> codeyman  grep ' / ' /mnt/etc/fstab
[08:36] <saranya> I don't have the repository with ruby in it enabled *shrug* how to do it
[08:36] <codeyman> one sec
[08:37] <ethen637> hey anyone?
[08:37] <_2> i guess that could be tabbed insted of spaced
[08:37] <codeyman> _2: http://pastebin.com/d5364f679
[08:38] <[kev]> has anyone here used ubuntu 8.10 for a while?
[08:38] <Slart> !anyone | [kev]
[08:39] <[kev]> problem is: im finding it VERY buggy ... i just wrote a lot of code using eclipse -- in ubuntu 8.10 ..and eclipse crashed for no reason..and i lost all my code
[08:39] <saranya> pls anyone answer my question I don't have the repository with ruby in it enabled *shrug* how to do it
[08:39] <Slart> [kev]: eclipse might very well be buggy... I wont argue with that
[08:40] <hischild> join #ubuntu-ops
[08:40] <_2> codeyman ok you need to boot the real system.   add boot options "nosplash guiet"
[08:40] <Slart> hischild: all of us? =)
[08:40] <hischild> Slart, it was a typo, i started typing to fast
[08:40] <_2> codeyman be sure to umount /mnt before you reset.
[08:40] <codeyman> _2: in menul.list?
[08:41] <_2> codeyman you can there,  or at boot time   grub edit feature
[08:41] <Slart> hischild: =)
[08:41] <co_setia> hyyyyyyyyyy
[08:41] <codeyman> _2: ok.. will try that be back later then to report
[08:41] <_2> ok i'll be around
[08:42] <Finnish> I have this problem  libavc1394-dev: Depends: libavc1394-0 (= 0.5.3-1build1) but 0.5.3-1+b1 is to be installed What I need to do?
[08:42] <humbolt> The graphical interface did not properly start, which is needed for graphical logins. It is likely that the X Window System or GDM is not properly configured. -- Always get that, the first time I try to switch to a new user session with the fast-switching applet. But it works on the second try. What can I do?
[08:42] <hellhound_> after installing 8.10 and then installing the restricted nvidia driver, I am not longer able to boot into x ... i just get the command prompt... startx reveals no devices found     can anyone help?
[08:42] <ethen637> ubuntu 8.19 is awesome .
[08:43] <ethen637> oh sorry 8.19
[08:43] <ethen637> oh sorry 8.10
[08:43] <chronosza> does anyone know if the intel x3100 is supported on 8.10? the OS hangs if it tries to do any 3d acceleration using the detected intel driver and the best google tells me is that it doesnt work.
[08:43] <ethen637> yes
[08:45] <sidewalk> how can i set several different background images (wallpapers) in Ubuntu 8.10 (Gnome) ?
[08:45] <ethen637> so simple
[08:45] <riley> right click desktop and choose change desktop bacround
[08:46] <chronosza> ethen637:  was that yes for me?
[08:46] <riley> backround*
[08:46] <ethen637> jjust right click on desktop and select configure desktop
[08:48] <ethen637> that all , u can  see menu which shows you to change background
[08:49] <riley> there is no configure desktop
[08:49] <riley> i just checked
[08:50] <extor> Is there any way to mount an LVM volume into something readable when you boot off a knoppix CD?
[08:50] <randal> you guys are gonna laugh at this i started a live cd for g partition and was resizing my hard drive partitions and the power went out and i lost everything is there away to repair this
[08:51] <_2> !testdisk | randal
[08:51] <step21> randal: that's what notebooks are for ...
[08:51] <_2> !info testdisk | randal
[08:51] <_2> might work....
[08:51] <randal> _2 ??????
[08:51] <ethen637> oh oops then open image you wnat to set at desktop then right click on it , check wheter u  can see option as sert as background
[08:51] <randal> _2 whats that
[08:51] <step21> randal: and if you live somewhere where that happens often I would get some backup power
[08:52] <randal> step21:  it was the power out my bro keeked the power cord out
[08:52] <_2> randal boot the live cd   install testdisk and try it.
[08:52] <randal> step21: kicked
[08:52] <step21> randal: there's no easy way unfortunately.
[08:52] <hazhar> any one know about cooldisk error ? i can,t copy any thing in my memory cart !
[08:53] <randal> step21: what are you talkingabout
[08:53] <ethen637> what kicking is their
[08:53] <randal> _2:  where do i get test disk
[08:53] <_2> !info testdisk | randal
[08:53] <step21> randal: professional data recovery might have a shot, but that costs good money ... on your own if you don't know anything about this, just reinstall ...
[08:53] <_2> step21 why don't you let him try testdisk,   i works some times
[08:54] <O__o> how to type ’ ??
[08:54] <randal> _2: that code you keep sending me does nothing
[08:55] <O__o> in man x11vnc i suppose to type  ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host ’x11vnc -localhost  -display :0’
[08:55] <_2> on second though, step21 you are the man.
[08:55] <O__o> ’ ??
[08:55] <O__o> how do u type ’ in keyboard?
[08:55] <O__o> ' " ` <---- those are not ’
[08:55] <riley> key under esc
[08:55] <_2> i mean,   randal  are ignoring what ubottu says ?    do you know how to install packages ?
[08:55] <O__o> key under esc = ` not ’
[08:55] <riley> oops
[08:56] <step21> randal: try http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/TestDisk_Livecd , if thatdoesn't work you'll have to reinstall
[08:57] <_2> randal see ubottu's next line...
[08:57] <_2> !info testdisk | randal
[08:57] <_2> see     ^
[08:57] <_2> you can install it in your live cd via the package manager
[08:57] <_2> and run it.
[08:57] <step21> _2: testdisk might work ... wasn't aware that there was anything stable for linux/ext2
[08:57] <step21> nice
[08:58] <_2> step21 it really depends only on what exactly was happening on the disk when the power failed.   chances are it will work.  but there are things that could have been happening that will destroy the data  so....
[08:58] <mikevankuik> I'm trying to use syslog to save log data from my router but something isn't right yet the log file doesn't get written
[08:59] <ethen637> check admin access
[08:59] <step21> _2: yeah true, even harder to determine remotely I guess
[08:59] <_2> yep
[09:00] <sidewalk> does anyone know how i setup different wallpapers for different workspaces in Ubuntu?
[09:00] <sidewalk> im not using the cube
[09:02] <fosco_> sidewalk: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Wallpapoz
[09:02] <_2> codeyman has been too long gone... he's probably writing down what the console told him...
[09:03] <hazhar_> hi
[09:03] <pundiramit> how to solve this problem "GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com intrepid-updates Release: Unknown error executing gpgv" . I have just installed ubuntu-8.10 and I got this error during installing updates.
[09:04] <pundiramit> is there any way to update? how should I get that GPG key?
[09:04] <codeyman> _2: fixed the issue finally.. splashy had hijacked the init process somehow :(
[09:05] <_2> codeyman glad you are streight now.
[09:05] <codeyman> I just apt-get installed splashy and it worked after printing some issues.. still fails and cries about stuff.. but I dont really care about those as long as the system is bootable..
[09:05] <codeyman> thanks _2
[09:05] <codeyman> I owe you one
[09:06] <_2> codeyman don't mention it.
[09:11] <_2> !gpg
[09:11] <_2> !gpgkey
[09:11] <kavitha> whic is the best graphics library?
[09:11] <ziroday> sidewalk: AFAIK you can't. You can have wallpapers change over time, but not have per desktop wallpapers
[09:11] <kavitha> which one is the best graphics library?
[09:11] <_2> kavitha the one you like
[09:11] <kavitha> hmmm
[09:11] <ethen637> kavitha are u from india
[09:11] <_2> kavitha "best" is a non-question question in the linux world
[09:11] <kavitha> one which gives better performance
[09:11] <kavitha> ya
[09:11] <ethen637> i'm also hhaha
[09:11] <_2> some like qt  some like gtk   some dont
[09:12] <kavitha> ok
[09:12] <kavitha> wer in india?
[09:12] <ethen637> near mumbai and you?
[09:12] <kavitha> i m using ubuntu..
[09:13] <kavitha> wer near mumbai?
[09:13] <ethen637> i use 8.10 desktop edition
[09:13] <ethen637> on my lappy
[09:14] <kavitha> 2_: which graphics library gives better performance?
[09:14] <kane77> hi, can I downgrade package using apt-get (install older version)?
[09:14] <ziroday> kavitha: it depends what you use them for
[09:14]  * _2 's name is an allusion to being binary or "base two"
[09:15] <_2> kavitha probably gtk if you ask that in here.  but if you ask in #kubuntu it's probably qt
[09:15] <kavitha> ziroday: for plugin implementation
[09:15] <ethen637> kavitha:_batu
[09:16] <ziroday> kavitha: what exactly are you trying to develop?
[09:16] <_2> kavitha gtk is what they want me to tell you.
[09:17] <ethen637> lathica
[09:17] <kavitha> i want to display video in browser
[09:18] <ethen637> oh it;'s easy with html
[09:18] <kavitha> ya?
[09:18] <kavitha> ya
[09:18] <ziroday> kavitha: what browser
[09:18] <_2> ethen637 talking flash are you ?
[09:18] <kavitha> hey lathica?
[09:18] <kavitha> u r lathica?
[09:19] <ethen637> ya from slumdog millenior
[09:19] <rww> !ot
[09:19] <kavitha> wer u did ur degree... in Mulky?
[09:19] <_2> rww there wasn't anything going on  @ the moment anyway
[09:19] <hellhound> i just installed 8.10 and after activating the restricted nvidia driver and rebooting I can no longer get into x.  if i type startx i get "(EE) No devices detected." and "Fatal server error: no screens found"  I have put my xorg file on pastebin at http://pastebin/m29b60d2    can anyone PLEASE help?
[09:19] <rww> pundiramit: Is your computer's date and time set correctly?
[09:20] <ethen637> no i'm U.G
[09:20] <sidewalk> wallpapoz doesnt start under Ubuntu 8.10
[09:20] <rww> _2: So?
[09:20] <ariphone2G3G> hi
[09:20] <carpii> hellhound, your url doesnt work
[09:20] <sonoblaise> I'm writing a shell script and I've a small bug..  I want to assign an output file to a variable (var='/tmp/tempfile') and then use it as a redirection this way: mycommand [params] > $var  ...  the thing tells me that the redirection is ambiguous.  How should i do it then?
[09:20] <ethen637> no i don't have any problem with 8.10
[09:20] <ziroday> sidewalk: try desktop drapes, however both are quite buggy
[09:20] <pundiramit> yes I did it manually? It gave me wrong date/time after installation.
[09:20] <sidewalk> ziroday: can you recommend another solution?
[09:21] <ziroday> sidewalk: desktop drapes
[09:21] <kavitha> ziroday: firefox browser
[09:21] <ziroday> hellhound: you didn't pastebin anything or gave the wrong link :)
[09:21] <rww> pundiramit: It's correct now, though? Year, month, date, etc? Because the usual cause of that error is your computer's date being set in the past.
[09:21] <carpii> hellhound: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/common-problems-and-solutions-for-nvidia-restricted-drivers-after-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex-upgrade.html
[09:21] <hellhound> carpii: sorry it should be http://pastebin.com/m29b60d2
[09:22] <knic> can someone help me with tar, I am trying to back up a directory that contains a symlink but I want to exclude certain files in it, and it doesnt seem to be working
[09:22] <ziroday> kavitha: well then you need to use <video> tags, but this isn't the right place for those types of question. Ask in #web
[09:22] <ariphone2G3G> hi someone could help me on my pptp server .
[09:22] <ariphone2G3G> plz i get connected but it s disconnected after less thant one minute
[09:22] <ziroday> hellhound: also can we have your xorg.log please
[09:22] <carpii> knic, what isnt working, and what are you trying?
[09:22] <pundiramit> rww: it looks correct to me. there should be some way to get my date/time settings from NTP. I will try to set my system date/time through that
[09:23] <kavitha> pundiramit: NTP ll set
[09:24] <rww> pundiramit: Okay. Do that, then try updating again. You could also try the instructions in the second post of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=255023
[09:24] <pundiramit> rww: also I'm working under proxy settings. does it have anything to do with the error?
[09:24] <hellhound> ziroday: i don't know of a way to send the log to pastebin wtihout typing it all out manually (which is what i did for xorg)...
[09:24] <ziroday> hellhound: you can install the pastebinit program and then do cat /path/to/log | pastebinit
[09:25] <carpii> or just open it in a text editor and cut and paste
[09:25] <rww> pundiramit: I'm not sure, to be honest.
[09:25] <ariphone2G3G> exactly one minute after the connection it s disconnected from the pptp server
[09:25] <ziroday> carpii: he has no xorg...
[09:25] <ziroday> carpii: X does not start.
[09:25] <carpii> yeah i know, i was explaining that he didnt need to type it all into pastebin ;)
[09:25] <sonoblaise> is there a channel specialized for shell scripting??
[09:26] <chronosza> does anyone know which driver should be used for the intel x3100?
[09:26] <chronosza> the default intel one does not.
[09:26] <rww> sonoblaise: there's the #bash channel; that might be useful
[09:26] <ziroday> sonoblaise: if you're using bash then #bash
[09:26] <sonoblaise> rww and ziroday : thanks a lot!
[09:26] <hellhound> ziroday: ok here you go http://pastebin.com/f6af9a923
[09:27] <kavitha> after settint to ntp u need to restart network
[09:27] <kavitha> after setting to ntp u need to restart network
[09:27] <ziroday> hellhound: your video card is connected and seated correctly right?
[09:28] <ziroday> hellhound: also what is the output of lspci | grep VGA?
[09:29] <hellhound> ziroday: yes actually i have two video cards and two monitors both video cards are NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT
[09:29] <Donny> Anyone know why my wifi card isnt connecting to my router? the driver is set up on it any programs i could get to manage that or somthign?
[09:30] <althaf> hey,i'm facing a problem
[09:30] <ziroday> hellhound: okay, whats the output of lspci | grep VGA?
[09:30] <althaf> i disabled booting to dgm
[09:30] <althaf> gdm
[09:30] <althaf> and i like booting to text mode
[09:30] <chronosza> anyone know about the intel driver? i need accell in vmware
[09:30] <althaf> and doing startx
[09:31] <althaf> when i dothat , after my usage im unable to shutdown
[09:31] <hellhound> ziroday: i get two lines "01:00.0 VGA Compatible controller nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1)" and "04:00.0 VGA Compatible controller nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600 GT (rev a1)"
[09:31] <althaf> i mean i have to explicitly give shutdown -h now
[09:31] <somaunn> hello guys
[09:31] <ziroday> hellhound: okay, one sec
[09:32] <althaf> any one ?
[09:32] <ziroday> hellhound: why don't you try run sudo nvidia-xconfig
[09:32] <unanxbt> My GDM is not automatically starting up, can anyone help me?
[09:32] <somaunn> althaf: trying to understand the current subject
[09:32] <althaf> ok thanks for that ping
[09:33] <althaf> i dont used gdm to login rather i do startx
[09:33] <ziroday> unanxbt: do you have terminal prompt?
[09:33] <unanxbt> ziroday, yes
[09:33] <ziroday> unanxbt: what does sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start output?
[09:33] <ariphone2G3G> ziroday could you give me a hand please with my pptp server ?
[09:33] <althaf> and one more thing , i cant even see the shutdown/logout/restart option in my pannel,
[09:34] <althaf> i have to choose system->shutdown
[09:34] <unanxbt> ziroday, It starts the gdm but whenever I restart my PC GDM does not automatically starts
[09:34] <althaf> but even if i do that it wont work
[09:34] <ziroday> unanxbt: did you disable it?
[09:35] <unanxbt> I installed kde and kdm with it so it disabled gdm but then I uninstalled kde and also kdm and reenabled gdm but its not starting
[09:35] <kavitha> #plugin
[09:36] <althaf> somaunn did u understand my problem
[09:36] <hellhound> ziroday: i got the exact same response after running sudo nvidia-xconfig both using startx first and rebooting kdm still did not boot so i logged in and tried startx and still got "(EE) No devices detected" "Fatal server error: no screens found"
[09:36] <somaunn> althaf: explain it bro
[09:37] <ziroday> unanxbt: run sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[09:37] <ziroday> hellhound: strange
[09:37] <althaf> see . i usually use gdm to login , now i have disabled gdm , i login throu textmode
[09:37] <unanxbt> ziroday, ok, lemme check it
[09:37] <kavitha> #audio
[09:37] <ziroday> hellhound: is your xorg.conf different then before?
[09:37] <althaf> and do startx for gui
[09:37] <ziroday> althaf: okay, and whats not working?
[09:37] <althaf> when i boot up in this way , im unable to shutdown my  system from the menu
[09:38] <unanxbt> ziroday, its done and says that the changes will take place on next login
[09:38] <althaf> rather i have to use shutdown -h now
[09:38] <Lorre> mornin' all.
[09:38] <althaf> from terminal
[09:39] <althaf> and even im unable to see the menus in the taskbar pannel
[09:39] <althaf> i mean shutdown menus
[09:39] <unanxbt> ziroday, if you are here then i can logoff and will come back!
[09:39] <ziroday> unanxbt: sure
[09:39] <althaf> ziroday: did u get me
[09:39] <ziroday> althaf: okay, instead of typing in startx try instead sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[09:40] <althaf> ok , why is that so ?
[09:40] <althaf> startx does the job , does gdm start up some powrmanagment servive
[09:40] <ziroday> althaf: try it first
[09:40] <althaf> ok .. i will be back
[09:40] <Timecop> im look for same help how setup FTP to my webserver upload Pages?
[09:40] <Lorre> Anyone have the the time to help me out with a wireless network issue?
[09:41] <hellhound> ziroday: no but that is what i think i did before i have also tried dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xerver-xorg and i tried downloading the nvidia driver from nvidia and then sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-180.22-pkg1.run
[09:41] <Timecop> 8:40pm here
[09:41] <ziroday> hellhound: does a livecd work?
[09:42] <unanxbt> ziroday, no, the gdm is not starting automatically, i have to start it manually
[09:43] <unanxbt> ziroday, lemme tell the output of "sudo update-rc.d gdm defaults"
[09:44] <unanxbt> ziroday, update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/gdm missing LSB style header
[09:44] <endeavormac> if i have a general disdain for IDEs, is this considered unhealthy behavior? are there others out there who believe a text editor will do them fine?
[09:44] <ziroday> unanxbt: I get the same error here, and then after  System startup links for /etc/init.d/gdm already exist.
[09:45] <binarymutant> endeavormac, I like vim
[09:45] <ziroday> endeavormac: this question would be better asked in #ubuntu-offtopic but I just use a text editor
[09:45] <unanxbt> ziroday, yes, same is here also, does your gdm start automatically?
[09:45] <ziroday> unanxbt: yes
[09:45] <endeavormac> heh ok, thanks
[09:46] <hellhound> ziroday: sorry had a connection problem...yes the livecd works and I can reinstall 8.10 fine and it will boot fine... it is only when I try to enable the restricted graphics driver that I get this issue
[09:46] <unanxbt> ziroday, then what can be wrong with mine?
[09:46] <ziroday> hellhound: okay, I think its an issue with dual cards and the propriatery nvidia drivers. Can't be sure myself as have never had dual cards.
[09:48] <caspix> hello
[09:48] <ziroday> hellhound: whats the output of Xorg -scanpci?
[09:48] <ziroday> unanxbt: not sure, sorry
[09:48] <unanxbt> ziroday, np
[09:48] <caspix> anyone here using xubuntu?
[09:49] <ziroday> caspix: the folks in #xubuntu will be
[09:49] <caspix> ok. thx
[09:49] <caspix> quit
[09:49] <kavitha> quit
[09:51] <deasy> ggg
[09:51] <dr4g> Hey all i'm currently logged in as a user with sudo access. I tried to edit the /etc/passwd file and accidently changed my user ID to 1000. Now i can't edit the passwd file because when attempting to perform a sudo command it says 'Who are you?'. all i need is root access so i can edit this file. Can someone help me please ?
[09:51] <althaf> ziroday:?
[09:51] <althaf> gdm failed to start
[09:51] <althaf> and one more thing
[09:52] <althaf> i used following to disable gdm -- update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[09:52] <ziroday> althaf: why did gdm fail to start
[09:52] <althaf> no idea , may be because of  update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[09:52] <hellhound> ziroday: i get "fatal server error Unrecognized option: -scanpci"
[09:52] <ziroday> hellhound: urgh
[09:53] <dr4g> When i installed ubuntu it didn't ask me for the root password only the user i initally set up with sudo access. Can someone help me identify my root password ?
[09:54] <DJones> !root | dr4g:
[09:54] <Lorre> Anyone have the the time to help me out with a wireless network issue?
[09:54] <ziroday> hellhound: try add BusID "PCI:01:00:00" under Devices please
[09:54] <ZeusKhush> Lorre - shoot!
[09:54] <Hyphenex> Does the ubuntu live CD come with ntfs3g?
[09:55] <dr4g> DJones: i changed my passwd file for my current user and messed it up. Now when i try to use sudo it doesn't know who i am (errornous user id) and can't sudo vi /etc/passwd to fix it.
[09:56] <Hyphenex> dr4g, try sudo - (with the dash)
[09:56] <ziroday> dr4g: you could try http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-3609.html
[09:56] <ziroday> dr4g: that will give you root access
[09:56] <ziroday> dr4g: obviously don't do step 11
[09:57] <dr4g> Hyphenex: sudo - gives me a syntax error. su - doesn't do anything.
[09:57] <dr4g> My user id in my passwd file is fu**ed so it doesn't know who i am
[09:58] <alaa_> any one can help me to mae my hp lj printer 1018 work with ubuntu desktop 8.10?
[09:58] <ziroday> dr4g: did you see my suggestion?
[09:58] <Lorre> ZeusKhush, see msg
[09:58] <Myrtti> dr4g: mind your language please, this is a family-friendly channel
[09:58] <dr4g> Apologies.
[09:59] <Hyphenex> dr4g, boot from a live D I guess and fix the file then :P
[09:59] <dr4g> ziroday:  i see the suggestion i will attempt to get that root shell from grub. Thanks for your suggestion i'll let you know how i got on.
[09:59] <dr4g> Hyphenex: that's also an option but i need access to this development server ASAP and can't waste time downloading the ISO
[09:59] <alaa_> any one can help me to make my hp lj printer 1018 work with ubuntu desktop 8.10?
[10:00] <unanxbt> !gdm
[10:01] <ziroday> dr4g: there was someone in the thread who had a similar issue as you, he was able to access /etc/passwd through that method
[10:05] <hellhound> ziroday: specifying the BusID did not work either :(
[10:06] <obama_linux> need help with nvidia geforce 9400 GT getting the overscan too work with my tv
[10:06] <ziroday> hellhound: then I'm out of ideas sorry
[10:06] <dr4g> ziroday: okay - i added 'init=/bin/bash it loads a bunch of stuff then goes blank. and does nothing.
[10:06] <obama_linux> nvidia settings manager no longer has the overscan option in it
[10:07] <ziroday> dr4g: did you add rw init=/bin/bash or just init=/bin/bash?
[10:08] <dr4g> first one
[10:08] <dr4g> it has ro quiet splash on there
[10:08] <dr4g> i added the first one to the end, it booted stuff up then just sat there.
[10:09] <dr4g> next time i removed the ro quiet splash and added rw init=/bin/bash and nothing
[10:09] <dr4g> My monitor just sits flashing on the power LED but with no HDD activity or screen output
[10:09] <hellhound> ziroday: thank you for your help.... i am still trying some stuff in google... i am wondering if I have to have the dual monitors setup correctly before nvidia drivers work... in otherwords once activated, it may find the other cards causing a conflict to where I have to setup the whole xorg file for both cards before anything works
[10:09] <CrownAmbassador> Hi guys and gals. I've not been able to use my ADSL line since upgrading to Ubuntu 8.10 at the end of October. Searched around a lot, started threads in forums, reported bugs, but nothing. Got help here a week or so ago aswell, but couldn't figure it out. Has anyone else here heard of 8.10 having problems connecting to the internet via LAN/ADSL modem? The network card and modem works fine with Windows. I even tried the live CD
[10:09] <CrownAmbassador> in my works computer and get the same result. Just don't understand how it can do this in 2 computers and most other people don't have this problem. Extremely frustrating.
[10:09] <sagetator50> ştie cineva şi româna?
[10:09] <Valio> ebasi maikata
[10:09] <Valio> mnoo ora we
[10:09] <Valio> chikii
[10:09] <Valio> :D
[10:10] <FloodBot1> Valio: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:10] <Valio> okey bitch
[10:10] <obama_linux> i need overscan help with nvidia 9400GT
[10:10] <dayo_> lol wtf?
[10:11] <ariphone2G3G> hi someone could help me with pptp server ?
[10:12] <dayo_> aruphone2G3G: try #ubuntu-server?
[10:13] <ariphone2G3G> oki thanks
[10:13] <Valio> :)
[10:14] <obama_linux> dayo_ could you help me with a video card problem
[10:14] <lesshaste> hi
[10:15] <lesshaste> I just did a standard update on intrepid and now X is completely blank when I start
[10:15] <lesshaste> how can I change the driver to something generic so I can at least start x?
[10:15] <lesshaste> it looks like the Intel driver is broken
[10:17] <ariphone2G3G> no one in ubuntu-server ...;; :-(
[10:17] <JamesA_> Is there anyone here willing to test my PGP keys by sending me a PGP email if I provide my PGP key?
[10:17] <drazzil> lesshaste: /etc/X11/xorg.conf   edit it changing the driver from,  to "vesa"
[10:18] <HaiHappen> hi
[10:19] <HaiHappen> i think that is not a german channel.....   thats right ???
[10:19] <zaggynl> !de
[10:19] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[10:20] <silv3r_m00n> where can i get older versions of firefox.. for linux
[10:20] <HaiHappen> THX
[10:20] <HaiHappen> bye
[10:22] <silv3r_m00n> hello ... i want older versions of firefox for linux
[10:25] <miked> ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/firefox/releases/
[10:27] <stevem> Hi, I use a command like...       su - myuser -c "/bin/mycommand"          in rc.local so the process starts as another user, but it never works... but the command does work if typed manually... any guesses on another way I can run something from rc.local as another user in background?
[10:39] <patmanpato> has anyone had issues with loading some module to do with the power button, and start up ?
[10:40] <wesley_> Hi. I'm unable to get my sound (logitech usb headphones) to work.  cat /proc/asound/cards - shows it's listed - aplay -l also lists the logitech headphones
[10:40] <wesley_> anyone any suggestion?
[10:40] <norgay> how do i activate the docker in gnome?
[10:41] <norgay> I just installed docker through synaptic but don't know how to activate it now!
[10:42] <Steff> In terminal -> sudo docker?
[10:42] <Steff> I don't know what docker is ? :D
[10:42] <erUSUL> Steff: why sudo ?
[10:42] <erUSUL> norgay: Alt + f2 -> run "docker"
[10:42] <Steff> Yeh - same shit ;)
[10:43] <ayy> hi
[10:43] <Steff> hi ayy
[10:44]  * LexaWhiteWolf waves
[10:47] <norgay> i get docker through alt+f2 but how do I add the menu items on it
[10:51] <ploom> hi, what would be reasonable to do in case for some gnome applications (like gnome-system-monitor and rhythmbox) there are a few translations that are wrong on ubuntu, but right when using for example gentoo?
[10:53] <Alfarin> I had a Windows machine... it had lots of media with CJK filename on NTFS partition...  I moved all of them to my NAS (ext3) and nuked it to install ubuntu...  everything with ubuntu works great... except I'm seeing all ?'s for the filenames when I mount the ext3 drive on my NAS.... any idea how I should come about correcting this?
[10:55] <lesshate> hi
[10:55] <lesshate> X now just comes up with a black blank screen since I did the last intrepid update
[10:56] <lesshate> I am using the intel driver
[10:56] <lesshate> how can I get X to start?
[10:56] <lesshate> the error message in the logs is "underrun pipe B" it seems
[10:58] <rainmanp7> lesshate i think if you type startx
[10:59] <lesshate> rainmanp7: go on
[10:59] <rainmanp7> lesshate looking it up now
[10:59] <lesshate> rainmanp7: thanks! I am in a virtual terminal :(
[10:59] <lesshate> rainmanp7: looking stuff up is a little tricky
[11:00] <syockit> lesshate: if you have xorg.conf, tell it to use vesa driver for now
[11:01] <syockit> but since you said intrepid, I doubt you have it
[11:01] <rainmanp7> lesshate try typeing that first and see what happens ?
[11:01] <lesshate> syockit: ok but could you help me do that? I tried changing the intel line to vesa with no luck
[11:01] <lesshate> syockit: I can pastebin some stuff if that would help
[11:02] <lesshate> rainmanp7: try typing startx?? The problem is that X comes up blank
[11:02] <rainmanp7> ohhh ok hrmmm can you move through directories and stuff ?
[11:02] <syockit> lesshate: wow, since you can pastebin, It'd be helpful if you can pastebin /var/log/xorg.0.log
[11:03] <syockit> lesshate: even with Driver "vesa", it fails to start?
[11:04] <rconan> since when did visudo not open vim?
[11:04] <rainmanp7> lesshate um I would type locate xorg.conf and check to see what video thing it's loading <open that file as admin>
[11:05] <erUSUL> rconan: it uses you default editor afaik
[11:05] <lesshate> syockit: http://pastebin.com/f1674151e
[11:05] <lesshate> rainmanp7: intel
[11:06] <rconan> the default editor always used to be vim
[11:06] <rconan> i suppose it's a little confusing for people not used to it though
[11:06] <SlimeyPete> if you set $EDITOR to 'vim' it'll probably use vim
[11:07] <rainmanp7> lesshate try changing that to um instead of intel to -> Device      "VESA Framebuffer"
[11:07] <erUSUL> rconan: see the man page it uses /usr/bin/editor --> /etc/alternatives/editor --> whatever you choose through update-alternatives
[11:07] <ariphone2G3G> i mtrying to access a pptp server using my 3G provider to bypass port restriction pptp server is under the wrt54G router running dd-wrt firmware
[11:08] <erUSUL> SlimeyPete: rconan the manpage metions that it usually ignores EDITOR and VISUAL
[11:08] <syockit> and here I thought that underrun problem was fixed
[11:08] <rainmanp7> lesshate and under that try putting this DefaultDepth 16
[11:08] <Schalken> Q: With Wubi, is it possible to mount the host Windows/NTFS file system?
[11:09] <rconan> erUSUL, well... I did sudo EDITOR=vim visudo and it used vim so the man-page would appear to be wrong
[11:09] <inktri> my motherboard's built in nic is not showing up with lspci nor is it showing up in Windows... i've tried updating bios, resetting cmos, but it's still not working. is there anything i can do besides buying a nic card?
[11:10] <erUSUL> rconan: note that is said "usually" ;P
[11:10] <inktri> how can i verify whether or not my nic is really broken?
[11:10] <rconan> erUSUL, fair point. still somewhat confusing
[11:11] <lesshate> syockit: what do you think?
[11:11] <erUSUL> rconan: quoting " Normally, visudo does not honor the VISUAL or EDITOR environment variables unless they contain an editor in the aforementioned editors list.
[11:11] <erUSUL> rconan: but it woulb be easier if you just "man visudo" XD
[11:12] <chickin> Hi, do you just ask a question or what?
[11:12] <erUSUL> !ask | chickin
[11:12] <syockit> lesshate: hmm? have you changed to vesa yet? That xorg.0.log indicates it's still using "intel" module
[11:12] <lesshate> syockit: no..let me do that
[11:12] <chickin> bunty broke broke. Changed fstab bunty vim no problem with mount /dev/sda32. Bunty grub not lilo. No booty boot. Bunty broked.
[11:12] <chickin> please help
[11:13] <rainmanp7> lesshate you need to change it first save it then reset the X cntrl+alt+bckspace then it can take effect
[11:13] <rainmanp7> I hope it takes effect
[11:13] <syockit> lesshate: as rainmanp said, you need admin access. Do sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf or something
[11:14] <chickin> syockit bunty broke broke. Changed fstab bunty vim no problem with mount /dev/sda32. Bunty grub not lilo. No booty boot. Bunty broked.
[11:14] <lesshate> syockit: ooh that was exciting
[11:14] <lesshate> syockit: how do I turn on the mouse so I can copy and paste
[11:15] <syockit> I forgot how you copypaste in nano
[11:15] <chickin> erUSUL bunty broke broke. Changed fstab bunty vim no problem with mount /dev/sda32. Bunty grub not lilo. No booty boot. Bunty broked.
[11:15] <carpii> ctrl+^ and ctrl+K i think
[11:15] <carpii> ctrl+^ and ctrl+U i think
[11:15] <lesshate> syockit: I did startx and got "f000:4aa0: 01 ILLEGAL
[11:15] <carpii> chickin, if your fstab edits are anything like your english, no wonder its broke broke
[11:15] <lesshate> EXTENDED X86 OPCODE"
[11:15] <lesshate> syockit: that's exciting :)
[11:16] <erUSUL> chickin: rephrase the question to something that makes sense please
[11:16] <lesshate> syockit: that was with vesa
[11:16] <chickin> carpii that could be a relevant point.
[11:16] <oCean_> chickin: you're not making much sense. Try to form complete sentences in english, describing details of your problem
[11:16] <WonderStivi> hey guys
[11:16] <carpii> :p
[11:16] <WonderStivi> just curious, anyone had problems with Brasero lately? Burning audio cd's?
[11:16] <syockit> lesshate: hmm wonder what that is. What does your xorg.conf look like?
[11:17] <chickin> erUSUL, oCean_ ok, I shall try again. I am not proficient with the technical language needed to describe my problem as I am an ubuntu (indeed, a *nix) novice.
[11:17] <syockit> lesshate: also next time, instead of startx, do /etc/init.d/gdm restart (or kdm)
[11:17] <chickin> ahem
[11:17] <lesshate> syockit: http://pastebin.com/f27025176
[11:17] <Acsiam> hi
[11:17] <chickin> bunty borked. Me change fstab for new partitty but borked. Reboot no happen with grub sometimes lilo? No. Bunty broke.
[11:17] <chickin> there.
[11:17] <lesshate> anyone know how to turn on the mouse in a virtual terminal?
[11:17] <lesshate> being able to copy and paste would be gret
[11:17] <lesshate> great
[11:17] <Acsiam> anybody experienced with hal?
[11:17] <rainmanp7> lesshate the same xorg.conf -> where it says Section "InputDevice" Identifier     "Mouse0       and add Driver         "mouse"
[11:18] <Acsiam> after I installed kde4.2, the automount fails to work....
[11:18] <lesshate> rainmanp7: how is xorg.conf related to a virtual terminal if X isn't running??
[11:18] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshate In vbox?
[11:18] <lesshate> Jack_Sparrow: no just normal ubuntu
[11:18] <syockit> rainmanp7: no, it's getting mouse running in tty
[11:19] <lesshate> Jack_Sparrow: I just want it running in tty as syockit says
[11:19] <chickin> oCean_ I thank you for your previous interest, and wish to inform you that via PM my problem has been solved.
[11:19] <rainmanp7> lesshate your going to have to tell us those sections of what it says in the Xorg config for the device you want to use the Section of the Name of the Device it's currently using
[11:19] <rainmanp7> syockit ohh umm not sure that's another research thing for me :)
[11:19] <lesshate> rainmanp7: ?? in any case.. they are paste binned aboce
[11:19] <lesshate> above
[11:20] <syockit> lesshate: hey, that's still intel. comment out everything from Device "Intel" until the last Option
[11:20] <syockit> comment out by inserting # at the beginning
[11:20] <lesshate> syockit: ok
[11:20] <syockit> then add a line: Device "vesa"
[11:20] <lesshate> syockit: can you remind me how to restart? I can
[11:20] <lesshate> 't scroll up :)
[11:21] <HelloNew> how to resolve dependencies ????
[11:21] <chickin> lesshate yes you can, you just don't know how
[11:21] <syockit> lesshate: I hope you've already backed up xorg.conf
[11:21] <lesshate> chickin: ah ok :) how do you scroll up in irssi?
[11:21] <lesshate> syockit: yep
[11:21] <chickin> lesshate page up
[11:21] <lesshate> chickin: ooh :)
[11:21] <lesshate> thanks
[11:21] <chickin> :-)
[11:22] <syockit> lesshate: then, delete everything in Section "Module"
[11:22] <cmdblock> who have been used wordnet in stardict software?
[11:22] <syockit> it's going to be detected automatically anyway
[11:22] <lesshate> syockit: well that just gave me GNOME Display Manager [Fail]
[11:22] <HelloNew> how to resolve dependencies ????
[11:22] <cmdblock> who have been used wordnet in stardict software?
[11:22] <chickin> syockit I thought Stallman said we all had to use "automagically" in place of "automatically" now
[11:23] <Jack_Sparrow> HelloNew Sounds like you need to look at what you are installing and get help from the download site as it is obvioulsy not from supported repos
[11:23] <rainmanp7> HelloNew doesn't the synaptic manager do this ?
[11:23]  * Xrhstos geia xaraaaaaa
[11:23] <chickin> HelloNew if you went into a little detail we may be able to help further
[11:23] <rainmanp7> HelloNew try using the update under admin ;) at first
[11:23] <chickin> HelloNew what are you installing?
[11:23] <syockit> chickin: Well, if you didn't see that was going to happen, you can say automagically
[11:24] <chickin> syockit there's no way he saw it coming
[11:24] <lesshate> syockit: ok so I have http://pastebin.com/f5c8abe50
[11:24] <lesshate> syockit: is that what you had in mind?
[11:24] <chickin> syockit dude doesn't know how to scroll up. It's all magic to him.
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: cheeky!
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: I am not using in irssi
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: I mean.. not usually using
[11:24] <chickin> lesshate just jokes
[11:24] <lesshate> chickin: :)
[11:24] <chickin> lesshate less hate, more love
[11:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[11:25] <syockit> lesshate: yup. I see it still didn't work
[11:25] <chickin> Jack_Sparrow oh, I'm sorry, I forgot not to talk OT in here
[11:26] <Eukanuba> evenin' everyone
[11:26] <chickin> Jack_Sparrow I know it can distract from the questions being asked
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[11:26] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi
[11:26] <lesshaste> syockit: so given that is my xorg.conf now... how shall I try to start X?
[11:26] <chickin> Eukanuba please ask your question
[11:27] <chickin> !ask
[11:27] <rainmanp7> !ask startx
[11:27] <chickin> rainmanp7 what's the problem? startx not starting X?
[11:27] <lesshaste> if I do startx I get that amazing error
[11:27] <syockit> lesshate: comment out Sections "DRI" and "Extensions" as ell
[11:28] <rainmanp7> chicken trying to see if the bot thing can tell me how to do it ;)
[11:28] <lesshaste> chickin: I can't get X to work
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> !fishing
[11:28] <lesshaste> chickin: well.. it used to work
[11:28] <chickin> lesshaste hmm, and I guess if I look at that pastebin I'll find a whole config file ...
[11:28] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste what video card and which release of ubuntu
[11:29] <syockit> lesshaste: or, if you don't have any x running, try xorg -configure
[11:29] <rainmanp7> lesshate can I ask if it worked before (-What Changed-) to make it not work now ?
[11:29] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: intrepid, intel graphics... probably i915?
[11:30] <Jack_Sparrow> line113 still shows vesa
[11:30] <lesshaste> syockit: the vesa error message is amazing.. I am trying to work out how to show it to you as it doesn't seem to be logged
[11:30] <syockit> Jack_Sparrow: I told him to use vesa for now
[11:30] <lesshaste> syockit: how do you pipe standard error ?
[11:30] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: you should see the error I get from the vesa driver!
[11:32] <syockit> lesshate: maybe you can redirect output to file using >
[11:32] <chickin> newbs give me a headache
[11:32] <syockit> lesshaste: (command) > (output file)
[11:32] <lesshaste> ok guys... check out http://pastebin.com/f3f037f55
[11:32] <syockit> lesshate: also, mouse is enabled in tty through package gpm
[11:32] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste Did you try and pull in the xorg form an earlier version?
[11:32] <lesshaste> syockit: ah yes thanks
[11:32] <joe2> having problems with intel graphics chipset, was working, not any more. If some one can help can you im me pls.
[11:32] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: I didn't.. how should I do that?
[11:32] <lesshaste> joe2: that's me too :)
[11:33] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste Just trying to figure out where you got that xorg for intrepid
[11:33] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow: ok thanks.. did you see the amazing vesa error?
[11:33] <lesshaste> I have never seen anything so fatal
[11:33] <syockit> lesshate: ok this time, try renaming xorg.conf to something else (like xorg.conf.lama), and restart x by: /etc/gdm restart
[11:33] <syockit> It should start without xorg.conf
[11:34] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste agreed ..lose that xorg and start fresh
[11:34] <lesshaste> syockit: oh.. ok..the gdm command always just fails
[11:34] <lesshaste> syockit: so how should I start it?
[11:34] <oCean_> lesshaste: syockit that would be /etc/init.d/gdm start
[11:34] <lesshaste> oCean_: fails too
[11:34] <syockit> I thought restart would start even if it's stopped
[11:35] <Eukanuba> chikin, is it alright if i just watch and read the channel ?
[11:35] <syockit> what does the fail say?
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Eukanuba feel free to lurk or gep the logs if you like
[11:35] <lesshaste> syockit: just the one line saying [Fail] at the end
[11:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !logs
[11:36] <ValentineX> can i create live usb disk on ipod?
[11:36] <SAJMIRI> Hello to all,i have a problem with ubuntu 8.10 i cannot conect to internet
[11:36] <SAJMIRI> i have create a wired connection 1 and put all ips and dns numbers
[11:36] <lesshaste> gpm is running but I can't see how to paste with my two buttons :) the right and left click trick doesn't work
[11:36] <SAJMIRI> but cant open the pages
[11:37] <syockit> lesshate: I wonder what that is? you sure you have no X running? do: ps -e | egrep 'xorg|gdm'
[11:37] <lesshaste> ok.. so
[11:37] <lesshaste> X now starts using vesa!!
[11:37] <lesshaste> hooray :)
[11:37] <syockit> woo nice
[11:37] <rainmanp7> lesshate Congrats!
[11:37] <lesshaste> going to switch to xchat
[11:37] <lesshaste> back in a tick
[11:37] <SAJMIRI> anyone can help me?
[11:37] <ValentineX> I am trying create image on ipod with live usb start up disrk and it stuck on installing
[11:38] <syockit> !ask | SAJMIRI
[11:38] <lesshaste> hi syockit / Jack_Sparrow
[11:38] <lesshaste> so deleting xorg.conf was the key to getting vesa to work
[11:39] <ValentineX> SAJMIRI: tell some more details what kind of internet you are trying etc
[11:39] <syockit> lesshaste: It makes xorg autodetect your settings
[11:39] <SAJMIRI> ubottu: ok ,iam sorry
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste getting rid of that nastly xorg was.. yes
[11:39] <lesshaste> right
[11:39] <syockit> lesshaste: anyway, it's weird it didn't detect your intel
[11:39] <lesshaste> syockit, what do you mean? Where might that have happened?
[11:39] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste not just try switching vesa to intel
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> not I810
[11:40] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, by simply editing the one line?
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> yea, you know how th change it bak.. right
[11:40] <ValentineX> syockit: mine intel also not detected
[11:40] <syockit> lesshaste: you sure it's using vesa? try checking xorg.0.log again
[11:40] <rainmanp7> Jack_Sparrow don't do it ;)
[11:40] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste While YOu try that I will look for my notes
[11:41] <Jack_Sparrow> rainmanp7 dont do what
[11:41] <syockit> Jack_Sparrow: he wasn't using i810 module anyway
[11:41] <lesshaste> syockit, http://pastebin.com/f472db93
[11:42] <lesshaste> syockit, it says it has found intel and also that it is using vesa
[11:42] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste IS that the new one that was generated?
[11:42] <lesshaste> syockit, I don't know how to intrepret that
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste we need to see lsb_release -a
[11:43] <md22> hello
[11:43] <randagio> qual è il canale italiano raga???
[11:43] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, that was the log
[11:43] <joe2> is there some where gd online to try and sort the intel chipset problem out, i think it is a common problem, have tried ubuntu forums, have downloaded latest xf86 but not sure how install it
[11:43] <Jack_Sparrow> !it > randagio
[11:44] <syockit> lesshaste: that one looks like when you did xorg -configure
[11:44] <rbowes> Morning all
[11:44] <rainmanp7> Gdmorning
[11:44] <rbowes> I'm trying to enable the jave 64-bit plugin on Intrepid
[11:44] <lesshaste> syockit, sorry which one does? to be clear.. I moved xorg.conf out of the way and ran startx and then gave you the log
[11:44] <rbowes> *java
[11:44] <rbowes> *Sun java
[11:45] <lesshaste> syockit, sudo cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:45] <rbowes> I found this page: http://luke.faraone.cc/2009/01/native-64bit-java-plugin-in-ubuntu/
[11:45] <syockit> lesshaste: hmm. it looks like it's using intel driver for now
[11:45] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, lsb_release -a says 8.10
[11:45] <rbowes> The commands in that article succeed
[11:45] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, are there any particular details you need?
[11:45] <rbowes> But I don't get a working plugin in Firefox
[11:45] <lesshaste> syockit, it also says vesa right?
[11:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !java64
[11:45]  * oCean_ applied kernel updates.. booting
[11:46] <syockit> lesshaste: yup, but that is because it loads everything available
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste no, im just on the wrong computer for those notes
[11:46] <rbowes> Jack_Sparrow, thx - reading now
[11:46] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, ah ok :)
[11:46] <lesshaste> syockit, ok.. does it actually make a config file?
[11:46] <lesshaste> syockit, it seems not
[11:46] <rainmanp7> lesshaste do you have a link for your xorg.conf ? the current version that's working
[11:46] <lesshaste> rainmanp7, I am not sure it makes one
[11:46] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste it does, may we see it
[11:46] <syockit> syockit: no, that's how it's going to work from now on
[11:46] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:46] <lesshaste> ls: cannot access /etc/X11/xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[11:47] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, there are lots of files that start xorg.conf there
[11:47] <syockit> lesshaste: yes that should be correct
[11:47] <lesshaste> backups etc.
[11:47] <jim_p> !kubuntu
[11:47] <syockit> lesshaste: if you still want xorg.conf, you can do xorg -configure again
[11:47] <syockit> and copy the created xorg.conf.new
[11:47] <lesshaste> syockit, ok thanks.. but I see I don't really need one :)
[11:47] <syockit> but I don't recommend it
[11:48] <Jack_Sparrow> lesshaste sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:48] <lesshaste> well.. thanks all.. I would love to now make a useful bug report
[11:48] <guoguo> 各位朋友好，有没说中文的
[11:48] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, it's not there...
[11:48] <syockit> I needed it though, because hal doesn't load my touchscreen driver
[11:48] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, it doesn't make one
[11:48] <syockit> lesshaste: so you have your desktop running?
[11:48] <lesshaste> syockit,yep.. all up and happy :)
[11:48] <syockit> because you started with startx
[11:48] <lesshaste> Sylphid, yes
[11:48] <lesshaste> oops
[11:48] <lesshaste> syockit,
[11:48] <lesshaste> yes
[11:48] <FloodBot3> lesshaste: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:48] <lesshaste> sorry sir bot
[11:49] <syockit> I wonder why gdm failed. if you will, try restarting and see if login appears
[11:49] <syockit> if not, maybe gdm is problematic
[11:49] <guoguo> 有没说汉语的？？
[11:49] <lesshaste> syockit, would you mind if I go that in a bit.. I need to read my emails and it's 11:49am :)
[11:49] <rbowes> Jack_Sparrow, as I read it, http://luke.faraone.cc/2009/01/native-64bit-java-plugin-in-ubuntu/ says the latest Sun JRE has native 64-bit plugin support
[11:49] <syockit> !cn | guoguo
[11:49] <lesshaste> thanks all in any case!
[11:49] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn
[11:49] <etfb> Thinking of getting a Compaq laptop.  Anyone know how they go with Ubuntu compatibility, generally?
[11:50] <guoguo> 谢谢了，其实更想直接与你们汉语交流，因为不太懂英语，呵呵
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> !cn > guoguo
[11:50] <O__o> haha
[11:50] <SiDi> Pretty sure it's japanese
[11:50] <Jack_Sparrow> SiDi ip chows  china
[11:50] <syockit> Unless it's got certification by somebody/some company, you can't guarantee everything works
[11:51] <O__o> it is chinese
[11:51] <O__o> simplify chinese
[11:51] <rbowes> So, am I mistaken?
[11:51] <SiDi> Okey then :P
[11:51] <O__o> this is japanese - こにちわ
[11:51] <syockit> SiDi: boku wakarimasen yo. Kitto chuugokugo deshou
[11:51] <md22> is 2gb or ram ok for a ubuntu system that will be running postgresql,apache tomcat, apache http with (php,mod_perl and mod mono) oat the same time?
[11:51] <Jack_Sparrow> Behave...
[11:51] <lesshaste> Jack_Sparrow, thanks to you too :)
[11:51] <syockit> O__o: sonna no, ese-nihongo  daro
[11:52] <SiDi> md22: yes it should be ok
[11:52] <md22> ok thanks
[11:52] <syockit> md22: cool setup! 2gb is ok, but see processing power
[11:52] <O__o> nihongo chotto
[11:52] <SiDi> md22: by default on a server it uses like 50mb (that's what i was getting with apache2+php mod)
[11:52] <md22> processor is amd athlon x2 5400
[11:52] <etfb> md22: RAM is cheap though.  Why waste your time when for $50 you could double your memory?
[11:52] <SiDi> md22: i don't know about processors :)
[11:53] <md22> 2.8GHZ
[11:53] <SiDi> etfb: you mean 20 maybe ?
[11:53] <syockit> md22: good enough I think
[11:53] <SAJMIRI> i have a problem i cant connect the internet in ubuntu 8.10
[11:53] <SiDi> md22: unless you get thousands of clients all the time it should be ok
[11:53] <therootest> i want to create a LAN through a router/swich between kubuntu and xubuntu. Which programm i need and how can i make it?
[11:53] <md22> ok
[11:53] <syockit> you guys are lucky. My notebook uses a very peculiar microDIMM that costs almost $500 for a 2gb
[11:53] <syockit> and the pc has only 1 slot
[11:54] <etfb> SiDi: 2Gb for $20?  Where do you shop?
[11:54] <etfb> syockit: Doomed then.  You could replace the whole thing for that much.
[11:54] <O__o> yes 2GB laptop ram $20
[11:54] <O__o> in boxing day
[11:54] <syockit> etfb: yeah, but after parting from vista, I don't see the need for that
[11:55] <etfb> O__o: I'd expect to pay $50 retail at the local computer fair.  That's Australian dollars, and Australian prices.
[11:55] <syockit> Now I just want another box to do server/compiling jobs
[11:55] <SiDi> etfb: in france it's about 15-25€ for 2GB. let's say 25-40 $
[11:55] <O__o> $20 canadian 2GB laptop ram
[11:55] <etfb> syockit: It's certainly true that Ubuntu breathes new life into old hardware.  As long as it's not the hardware you're "living in".
[11:55] <etfb> O__o: Freaky.
[11:55] <O__o> ram is cheao now
[11:55] <syockit> the thing is if it comes with vista it's hardly old
[11:55] <therootest> i want to create a LAN through a router/swich between kubuntu and xubuntu. Which programm i need and how can i make it?
[11:56] <SiDi> therootest: do you need help on setting the network or on software to communicat ebetween the pc ?
[11:56] <etfb> I guess it's the cost of rotating all the cargo containers so they'll be upside down when they reach Australia...
[11:56] <SAJMIRI> >	i have a problem i cant connect the internet in ubuntu 8.10
[11:56] <oCean_> !ot
[11:56] <SiDi> therootest: once the network is up, use SSH for remote access, and VNC for remote graphical access
[11:56] <therootest> sidi, how can i make the network?
[11:56] <O__o> i bought 2GB cosair 2X1GB ram 667GHz for like $300 2 months ago
[11:57] <O__o> $30
[11:57] <etfb> So, speaking of buying hardware: anyone got any horror stories about Compaqs running Ubuntu?
[11:57] <O__o> not $300
[11:57] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: it would help to say if wifi/ethernet/usb, what ISP eventually, etc
[11:57] <Jack_Sparrow> !details
[11:57] <SAJMIRI> ethernet
[11:57] <SAJMIRI> sidi ethernet
[11:58] <joe2> intel graphics card not working help please, im me!
[11:58] <SiDi> therootest: plug an ethernet cable, click on the network manager icon, and voila :P
[11:58] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: does your adsl box have DHCP ?
[11:58] <britline> clear
[11:58] <syockit> joe2: yeah you said it before. Not detected, was it?
[11:58] <jarco> what would be the command line command to add a comma (,) behind every line in a text file?
[11:59] <caio> any software to split my desktop in tabs? to organize my files in desktop.
[11:59] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: iam a noob, in my other computer _vista_ i just put the cable and configure the ips and it is connected
[11:59] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: it's meant to be exactly the same. Did you use any ISP cd on your windows PC ?
[11:59] <SAJMIRI> SiDi:  no
[11:59] <britline> halo all
[11:59] <britline> halooooo
[12:00] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: then it should be exactly the same. You have a network icon (on the top right if i remember well), when you click it theres an "eth0" radio button, check it
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> !hi > britline
[12:00] <HelloNew> hi britline
[12:00] <britline> hi jack
[12:00] <etfb> An easier question: anyone have any horror stories about running Ubuntu on an Acer notebook?
[12:00] <therootest> SiDi: i am on the kubuntu and i cannot see any network manager icons here. can you help me, please?
[12:00] <britline> hi hellonew
[12:00] <britline> i was try ircII
[12:00] <jimmyspark> guys if anyone would like to see a third menu for ubuntu, a super menu which i think would make the dekstop more familiar for windows converts then plz vote my idea here: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/17733/
[12:00] <HelloNew> britline are u good in ubuntu?
[12:00] <britline> very cool
[12:00] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb You can look up supported hardware, but that question is inappropiate for the support channel
[12:01] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: when you try this, is there an error ? if you want to manually setup the IP then right click, "Modify connexions", click on "eth0", then the modify button, and go to the IPv4 tab to specify manual IP
[12:01] <unop> jarco,  sed -i 's/$/,/' file
[12:01] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: yes i have checked it,and i have created a wired connection 1 ,puted the ips dsn and netmask ,click ok and i says to me is connected,but cannot open a page
[12:01] <britline> but very dificult to
[12:01] <jarco> thx unop
[12:01] <SiDi> therootest: ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu ? i don't know about kubuntu though
[12:01] <joe2> think it is detected jus not working anymore
[12:01] <therootest> sidi, the one pc is kubuntu and the other xubuntu.
[12:01] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: can you try to ping your router please ?
[12:01] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: Is it?  Weird.  The hardware compatibility list is a pitiful joke.  I was hoping there'd be enough people here with enough experience that someone would know where I could look for real answers at least.
[12:01] <SiDi> therootest: you should see it at least under xubuntu, i'm on it and i see it.
[12:02] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: i dont have a router
[12:02] <SiDi> therootest: try Alt+F2, and type "nm-applet", and tell me what you see
[12:02] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: router = ADSL box
[12:02] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: open and console and type "ping <box ip>" and tell me if it answers
[12:02] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb You can look try offtopic for discussion or there was a linux laptop project with some decent info
[12:03] <therootest> sidi, there is no such applet.
[12:03] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: no i dont have one,the isp gave me a cable ,it is like a lan cable and it comes from a wireless anntena
[12:03] <O__o> etfb, having problem with laptop?
[12:03] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: The idea of "on topic" is certainly tighter here than I remember.  Ah well.  I'll google for "linux laptop project" and see what I can find.
[12:03] <SiDi> therootest: nm-applet should be installed on any default ubuntu install. Didn't you manually remove "NetworkManager" ? if so i can't help you
[12:04] <therootest> sidi, how can i remove network manager? i dont think i 've removed anything.
[12:04] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: oh i see. Well they give you an IP for gateway, don't they ?
[12:04] <etfb> O__o: No, just about to upgrade from my (well-behaved, compatible) Toshiba to something else, and I want to know what to avoid -- apart from Acer, all of which appear to be ideal  for use as very large beer coasters.
[12:04] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: what if you ping google.com ?
[12:04] <O__o> get a dell mini9
[12:04] <Jack_Sparrow> etfb If you asked a specific hardware question giving make and model of your hardware and which release it would not be any question about ot.  But asking for stoories about acre laptops.. not
[12:05] <O__o> it works fine in every OS
[12:05] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: should i try it now?
[12:05] <SiDi> therootest: no idea and i'm about to leave, so i can't take the time to investigate. You should have an app called "nm-applet" that launches the network manager's applet
[12:05] <riz0n> how can i reboot sound under ubuntu?
[12:05] <SiDi> SAJMIRI: yes please
[12:05] <therootest> sidi, ty :) bb
[12:05] <britline> sajmiri : can you tell me what your problem?? sory..
[12:05] <O__o> windows XP, vista, ubuntu, xubuntu, osx, etc
[12:05] <SAJMIRI> SiDi: ok wait me some seconds
[12:05] <etfb> Jack_Sparrow: Fair enough.  I'll go pray to Google for guidance.
[12:05] <tomodachi> riz0n: maybe /etc/init/pulseaudio restart could do it
[12:05] <SiDi> britline: he has his ethernet connexion apparently correctly configured but in his browser no pages popup
[12:06] <O__o> or bring the liveCD with u when buying laptop
[12:06] <O__o> insert the liveCD and see if it will boot fine
[12:06] <rainmanp7> test the internet with livce etc..
[12:06] <syockit> O__o: ah, never thought of that! anyways, !ot
[12:06] <britline> cek offline mode in browser
[12:06] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: use the command "route -n" There should be a line starting "0.0.0.0" the 2nd field on that line is your default gateway. Are you able to ping *that* address and getting an echo reply?
[12:06] <O__o> also work for desktop too
[12:06] <britline> oww
[12:07] <riz0n> tomodachi: thanks, just tried that, didn't help, also tried restarting "alsa" and it didn't help much either.. guess i am going to have to reboot the whole computer :\
[12:07] <Jack_Sparrow> FOr those that had not seen it.. A free Ubuntu book, and a good one from as much as I have read so far..  http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html
[12:07] <tomodachi> riz0n: doit
[12:07] <tomodachi> doit now
[12:07] <riz0n> oh im going to lol
[12:07] <O__o> free book?
[12:07] <O__o> wow how many pages?
[12:07] <MeLinux> #ubuntu.it
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> O__o yep free in pdf
[12:08] <Jack_Sparrow> O__o yep free in pdf   150 or  so
[12:08] <O__o> let me dl 1st
[12:08] <SAJMIRI> sidi; i pinged it
[12:08] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: do you mean google or the default gateway?
[12:09] <SAJMIRI> sidi: in the terminal showed me unknown host
[12:09] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: for ping google, that is?
[12:09] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: yes
[12:09] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: ok. type "route -n" Is there a line starting "0.0.0.0" ?
[12:10] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: where should i type route-n
[12:10] <britline> sori DC
[12:10] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: open a terminal and use command "route -n"
[12:10] <O__o> the book is alright
[12:10] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: command not found
[12:10] <O__o> not interesting
[12:11] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: i dont have a router
[12:11] <britline> router??? no no
[12:11] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: it's route<space>-n --> "/sbin/route -n"
[12:11] <Jack_Sparrow> O__o It is better than most and you could not have done much reading in the 60 seconds you looked at it
[12:12] <britline> clear
[12:12] <britline> eh
[12:12] <britline> ups
[12:12] <O__o> i guess
[12:12]  * Xrhstos kalh synexeia
[12:12] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: it showed me some info////// Kernel ip routing table
[12:12] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: that's oke
[12:12] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: destination gateway genmask flags metric  use iface
[12:12] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: no need to paste it here
[12:12] <britline> can you paste into this window
[12:13] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: ok
[12:13] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: on the line starting with "0.0.0.0".. the 2nd field is your gateway
[12:13] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: yes i have configured it to 255.255.255.0
[12:13] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: are you able to ping *that* address? Not the 0.0.0.0 of course
[12:14] <hobong> Hello all ..
[12:14] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: That's not correct. You're mentioning a netmask, not an ip address
[12:14] <hobong> Need help here
[12:14] <syockit> !ask | hobong
[12:14] <hobong> I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 II
[12:14] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: what should i do
[12:15] <hobong> my mousecan not work  after change from usb mouse to ps2 mouse
[12:15] <quibbler> Jack_Sparrow, another e book by the same author: http://www.mininova.org/tor/1947700
[12:15] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: I'm not sure how you configured your network settings. But if you're doing it by hand, you should change the default route to a real address
[12:16] <syockit> no dhcp?
[12:16] <O__o> ubuntu kung fu nice name
[12:16] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: i pluged the cable and editet the eth0 ,filled the field with ips and dns and netmask
[12:16] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: how to change in real address
[12:17] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: does your machine get its ip from the provider by dhcp? Automatically I mean
[12:17] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: i dont know
[12:17] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: well, what ip did you use, how did you know to use that specific ip ?
[12:18] <SAJMIRI> the isp came here and configured it here
[12:18] <syockit> oh, bummer
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> hobong have you rebooted since you installed the ps2 mouse
[12:18] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: a month ago  DNS server ips was another
[12:18] <dou213> hey guys how can i see which version of ubuntu i've got curently installed?
[12:18] <syockit> then you better check the network settings windows box
[12:18] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: ok. So the isp should have the information on the default gateway to. We're not able to provide you with that info.
[12:18] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: now i see it is different
[12:18] <Jack_Sparrow> dou213 lsb_release -a
[12:19] <syockit> *on the windows box
[12:19] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: well, your route table *and* your dns config should be in order to connect to internet successfully
[12:19] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: you'll have to ask your isp for correct settings
[12:20] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: in my lap top i have 2 OSs ubuntu and vista
[12:20] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: when i boot with vista internet is correct
[12:20] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: ah. ok
[12:21] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: so boot into vista, get the settings there, write them down, and use them in ubuntu
[12:21] <syockit> I hope that is not a crazy case with windows causing the network card to be unusable by other os
[12:21] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: ok i will try it now
[12:21] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: if the network in vista is set to dhcp, most of the network config is done automatically, no need to edit network settings
[12:22] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: if not, then write down ip address, netmask, default gateway and dns servers
[12:23] <SAJMIRI> oCean_: how to see id dhcp i set?
[12:24] <syockit> Hmm, this calls for someone with vista knowledge
[12:24] <britline> sajmiri: ?? ubuntu or windows?
[12:24] <syockit> Windows.
[12:24] <oCean_> SAJMIRI: in windows? I really have no clue.. have not been there for ages
[12:25] <britline> ﻿SAJMIRI: crtl+r "cmd"
[12:25] <lantjie> hey guys what's up
[12:25] <lantjie> i have a question
[12:25] <britline> ﻿SAJMIRI: ipconfig/all
[12:26] <lantjie> is it useful to install nfs and nis servers
[12:26] <lantjie> ?
[12:26] <SAJMIRI> oCean_ : now i will try
[12:27] <lantjie> is it>
[12:27] <oCean_> lantjie: well, that all depends
[12:27] <lantjie> ?
[12:27] <lantjie> oke
[12:27] <lantjie> thanx
[12:27] <oCean_> lantjie: are you planning on using nfs or nis?
[12:27] <syockit> I guess certain level of knowledge of windows is useful for support staff here
[12:28] <lantjie> ocean: what is the difference? which one is good
[12:28] <lantjie> to use
[12:28] <oCean_> lantjie: nfs and nis are different things
[12:28] <britline> i have problem to cam chat, presario CQ40
[12:28] <britline> ubuntu 8.04
[12:30] <britline> can anyone solve?
[12:30] <lantjie> ocean: if i want to join a domain i use nis. And if i want to share files over the network i use nfs am i right
[12:30] <lantjie> ?
[12:30] <mikebob> huhu
[12:30] <SAJMIRI> oCean_ :thank you very much
[12:31] <SAJMIRI> i wrotten wrong the DNSs
[12:31] <mikebob> kann hier auch einer deutsch??
[12:31] <SAJMIRI> thank you
[12:31] <lantjie> somebody am i right
[12:31] <lantjie> ?
[12:32] <oCean_> lantjie: indeed. But still, you can use nfs without nis (and vice versa)
[12:32] <stryd_one> hi all
[12:32] <nargzul> I've just a question, on kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 final, I've a problem with sound: My applications doesn't have sound(amarok, firefox, ...), but when I go in the configuration panel under the "Multimedia" section, if I click "Test", I ear the sound perfectly. What is the problem?
[12:32] <lantjie> oke ocean thanx many thanx
[12:32] <quibbler> !de
[12:32] <oCean_> lantjie: and nis is not just an app to join domains.. it's more an authentication thing
[12:33] <ttmrichter> I'm having an unusual, albeit mostly just annoying, problem with automounted disks under GNOME.  Every time I want to unmount the drives, the sequence goes like this: 1) The drive unmounts (confirmed through CL mount and disappearance of icon from desktop); 2) the directory under /media that is the mount point disappears (confirmed by watching the behaviour of /media in nautilus); 3) A dialogue box pops up saying the media could not be unmounted bec
[12:33] <ttmrichter> ause the directory could not be removed; 4) Another dialogue box pops up saying ... nothing.  Just an icon and an OK button.
[12:33] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk
[12:33] <lost_and_unfound> What is the best way I can create my own customised ubuntu environent and have it usable as a botable USB ?
[12:33] <ttmrichter> The drives unmount just fine, but it's really annoying to have those two dialogue boxes popping up all the time.  Anybody have any ideas what's going on and how I can stop this behaviour?
[12:33] <stryd_one> i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type.... is there a file or better yt a GUI for editing these?
[12:34] <oCean_> ttmrichter: that is weird indeed... what are the permissions on dir /media?
[12:35] <lantjie> hey guys i need some advice from you all. what is better to use samba or nfs?
[12:36] <_ruben> !better
[12:36] <britline> ﻿ttmrichter: what option in your fstab ?
[12:38] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk
[12:38] <stryd_one> i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type.... is there a file or better yt a GUI for editing these?
[12:40] <nargzul> No-one has an idea for my problem?
[12:41] <hazhar> salam
[12:41] <britline> ﻿hazhar: walaikum salam
[12:41] <epictetus> a salam alaikum
[12:42] <britline> ﻿nargzul: what problem ?
[12:42] <hazhar> sorry hi
[12:42] <nargzul> I've just a question, on kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 final, I've a problem with sound: My applications doesn't have sound(amarok, firefox, ...), but when I go in the configuration panel under the "Multimedia" section, if I click "Test", I ear the sound perfectly. What is the problem?
[12:42] <hazhar> i am bigginer in irc
[12:42] <stryd_one> nargzul, have you tried using a different sound engine?
[12:42] <nargzul> this one ;)
[12:43] <britline> ﻿nargzul: what sound card do you have?
[12:43] <nargzul> stryd_one:  hum, I'm just totally new in kde, and I absolutly don't know how to do it
[12:43] <nargzul>  lspci | grep Audio give me: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[12:43] <stryd_one> nar: in the application, i meant...
[12:44] <shell_> !ru
[12:44] <britline> ﻿nargzul: have u cek your volume control? (mute)
[12:45] <syockit> nargzul: that one particular hardware has some notoriety in not getting to work
[12:45] <nargzul> britline: yes I've ;)
[12:45] <nargzul> But on gnome, it's works fine
[12:46] <syockit> nargzul: but since you said Multimedia tests show that it works, must be kde problem
[12:46] <syockit> nargzul: what's your kubuntu version again?
[12:46] <rbowes> Ok, I got the new native 64-bit Sun Java plugin working on Intrepid 8.10
[12:47] <rbowes> I wrote it up here: http://robinbowes.com/article.php/20090130132222337
[12:47] <keller> Ie got a question, Where can I download the program "Automatix"??
[12:47] <Frozenball> Can I install Ubuntu if I don't have empty cds or usb stick?
[12:47] <nargzul> syockit: 8.10, And I've installed the kde 4.2 final
[12:47] <Frozenball> (well, I have iPod?)
 nargzul: but since you said Multimedia tests show that it works, must be kde problem
[12:48] <keller> whre can I download automatix
[12:48] <stryd_one> does amarok even care which desktop you use?
[12:48] <britline> ﻿﻿nargzul: lsmod | grep snd
[12:48] <syockit> nargzul: let's continue back at #kubuntu
[12:48] <eduardo>  /server -m irc.irchighway.net -j #FileWarez
[12:49] <britline> ﻿nargzul: just cek the module
[12:49] <keller> did anyone speak german here
[12:49] <nargzul> I've many things
[12:49] <Myrtti> !de | keller
[12:50] <methadone> is there an official adobe flash package from APT? or hsould I just get the installer from adobe.com ? (I'd rather use the packager)
[12:50] <tomodachi> methadone: yes there is
[12:50] <britline> ﻿nargzul: have you load the module for snd bro???
[12:50] <tomodachi> an official package
[12:50] <methadone> whats it called
[12:50] <ezerhoden> methadone: flashplugin-nonfree
[12:51] <methadone> why is it nonfree? :O
[12:51] <ezerhoden> methadone: closed source
[12:51] <methadone> another question.. will I also get an SWF player so I can run .swf files?
[12:51] <methadone> or will it atleast allow me to view SWF in traditional apps like vlc
[12:52] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk
[12:52] <stryd_one> i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type.... is there a file or better yt a GUI for editing these?
[12:52] <Stargazer> What's with all the recent kernel updates ?
[12:52] <ttmrichter> oCean_: Sorry for the delay.  Was AFK.  Permissions are: drwxr-xr-x   5 root root 4.0K 2009-01-30 20:34 media/
[12:52] <erUSUL> methadone: flashplugin-nonfree
[12:52] <erUSUL> !flash | methadone
[12:52] <nargzul> britline: No I'vnt do anything
[12:52] <ttmrichter> britline: No options in fstab.  These are USB drives being mounted and unmounted.
[12:55] <quibbler> methadone, for a stand alone swf player try swfdec in synaptic
[12:55] <lantjie> hey guys i have a tip: use nfs with kerberos or samba. nfs with kerberos is secure and samba is secure on it self
[12:55] <britline> ﻿nargzul:  modprobe snd-hda-intel,
[12:55] <britline> ﻿﻿nargzul: in terminal
[12:56] <hazhar>  how i can chat with web in yahoo ?
[12:56] <nargzul> britline: But why, if under "Multimedia" I ear the sound-check
[12:56] <lantjie> nfs isn't secure it doesn't authenticate
[12:56] <britline> ﻿﻿nargzul: iya yaa..
[12:57] <britline> ﻿﻿nargzul: waduh knapa tuh ya
[12:57] <stryd_one> narz: hve you tried chaniging to a different sound system in amarok yet?
[12:57] <Merc> Ive just added a new user in ubuntu 8.10, and for some reason the user cannot access external drives or even other partitions at all. how fix?
[12:57] <virtuos> hi
[12:57] <MethinX> Could someone help me with a Thumb Drive Question?
[12:57] <nargzul> stryd_one: no I didn't, I don't know what I must choose, I Will test all
[12:58] <Derek_> <-- my gnome crashed on a bad nvidia driver update. How can fix the display error?
[12:58] <syockit> nargzul: use alsa for now
[12:58] <philipp> alles fit
[12:58] <stryd_one> nargzul, the advice the other guys have been giving is to check if it's working but you already know that it is - your problem is with specific apps, right?
[12:58] <philipp> ???
[12:58] <quibbler> !nl
[12:58] <philipp> hey
[12:59] <stryd_one> anyone know how to change file associations?
[12:59] <britline> ﻿﻿nargzul: sory i can't help more..
[12:59] <MethinX> I have a 4 gig thumb Drive, and I want to make a script on it that when I autoload it into a computer it will automaticaly Copy certain files, and Email files, this is to simply move my Main computer between smaller computers at my company,
[12:59] <britline> ﻿﻿nargzul: sory..
[13:00] <nargzul> stryd_one: only alsa driver don't make an error, and no sound, But I've this problem with all application I tried
[13:00] <nargzul> britline: No problems
[13:00] <Derek_> can anyone see this?
[13:00] <stryd_one> nag: you said amarok and firefox... FF is know to be tricky with audio so i figured amarok would be the prime candidate for testing
[13:00] <anurag> yes
[13:01] <Derek_> How do I un-update a video driver?
[13:01] <Derek_> without my GUI...
[13:01] <Derek_> regular recovery options did not help
[13:01] <Merc> could someone help?
[13:02] <erUSUL> !ask | Merc
[13:02] <hobong> how to change usb mouse to ps2 mouse on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[13:02] <Derek_> so then I guess no one can help me
[13:02] <Merc> Why cant users I add access my other partitions?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> hobong,  ive never had to do anything. They both worked for me.. even at the same time.. I dont think plugging a ps2 in while X is running  will work. It may need a X restart.
[13:04] <hobong> I dont know, i have ever changed the mouse from usb to ps2 but seem not working
[13:04] <Anarhist> i have lost all the accounts and mail in thunderbird after computer crash... does anybody have any idea how i can go about recovering that
[13:05] <leitao> HI, Which is the best xorg driver for the 945 Intel graphic card ?
[13:05] <britline> i cant install WineCVS.sh
[13:06] <britline> can help me?
[13:06] <bigbrovar_> any body managed to get bluetooth working in ibex?
[13:07] <XB23> guys, how do i find what processes are taking up the most ram?
[13:07] <bigbrovar_> top
[13:07] <zeltak_> asa  assasasa
[13:07] <zeltak_> sorry
[13:07] <bigbrovar_> XB23: top
[13:07] <zeltak_> mispelled utf
[13:08] <XB23> ta
[13:08] <britline> WineCVS.sh
[13:08] <zeltak_> exit
[13:08] <erUSUL> XB23: in top hit m to order by ram usage
[13:08] <XB23> can i display it with  ps
[13:08] <britline> help dong
[13:08] <bigbrovar_> XB23: or sudo apt-get install htop then run htop
[13:08] <Derek_> Is there a generic graphic card driver that might work with my Nvidia graphics card?
[13:08] <zeltak_> mm trying to learn irssi anyone using it?
[13:08] <JamesA_> !sudo
[13:08] <Derek_> <-- Is... but I am a newbiw too
[13:09] <Derek_> newbie*
[13:09] <bigbrovar_> zeltak: i do
[13:09] <bigbrovar_> its not hard
[13:09] <bigbrovar_> and its really cool esp with screen
[13:09] <zeltak_> yeah that why im trying to use it :)
[13:10] <zeltak_> can you give me a few tips?
[13:10] <Derek_> ./help is the best command - you can also use ./help [command] is useful too
[13:10] <britline> ﻿bigbrovar_: list user???
[13:10] <bigbrovar_> i used this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Irssi
[13:10] <deagle> hello
[13:10] <erUSUL> !nvidia | Derek_
[13:10] <deagle> could someone tell me why my printer won't print a job of more than one copy?
[13:10] <Derek_> !nvidia, I'll try that thanks
[13:10] <XB23> hmm mysql is using 120mb of ram
[13:10] <kim__> hi. is anyone here familiar with ltsp, server /clients?
[13:10] <XB23> thats not right
[13:10] <XB23> surley?
[13:11] <Druidika> hi, is there a german channel in here?
[13:11] <Derek_> !nvidia
[13:11] <kitche> Druidika: #ubuntu-de
[13:12] <Druidika> thx :-)
[13:12] <quibbler> !de
[13:12] <zeltak_> thx bigbrovar_ ill check the link
[13:12] <AussieGuy> I can see you can do "ssh -D *:1080" to set up a socks proxy on 1080, but how do you close it again? I wouldnt want to leave it open for spammers
[13:13] <JamesA_> How do I find the mount point for a removable USB flash drive that is plugged into my computer?
[13:13] <zaggynl> in /media
[13:13] <zaggynl> or places in your menu
[13:13] <kim__> dmesg
[13:13] <ds305> If it's mounted, just type "mount" and it will show you where it is mounted.
[13:14] <bigbrovar_> has anybody managed to get bluetooth in ibex intrepid to work
[13:14] <Dr_willis> JamesA_,  check the 'mount' command also
[13:15] <O__o> eog and gpicview <----- which one is more lightweight???
[13:15] <bigbrovar_> am making a laptop image for students in my school and i thinking of basing the image on ibex
[13:15] <deagle> could someone tell me why my printer won't print a job of more than one copy?
[13:15] <JamesA_> I receive the following error message when attempting to format a disk mounted at /media/KINGSTON can anyone assist? (Link: http://pastebin.com/m7ae5b333)
[13:16] <bigbrovar_> did you try using gparted
[13:16] <JamesA_> I didn't
[13:18] <stryd_one> i hope someone can help, i need to change file type associations in bulk. i don't want to do right-click/properties/etc for every type (there are a lot).... is there a file or better yet a GUI for editing these?
[13:19] <O__o> how come ubuntu dont use gpicview as default picture viewer?
[13:19] <JamesA_> I've solved my problem with gparted, thanks to bigprovar_ .
[13:19] <bascht> Hi around. Can someone help me getting rid of some weird files?
[13:19] <JamesA_> bigbrovar_ *
[13:20] <bascht> I can't delete a whole directory tree on my fs, because of stale NFS links or something like that.
[13:20] <jrib> stryd_one: ~/.local/share/applications/defaults.list
[13:20] <stryd_one> thanks jrib!
[13:20] <bascht> rm says that they simply aren't there - but I can see them. Just don't delete 'em. fsck reports no errors
[13:21] <jrib> stryd_one: if you don't have that file, then use the right click method once to see how it works
[13:21] <deagle> how can i get my printer to print jobs of more than one copy?
[13:21] <bigbrovar_> Has anyone managed to get bluetooth to work on ubuntu8.10
[13:21] <XB23> when i do htop
[13:21] <edgy> Hi, where can I find .deb for the latest catalyst 9.1 for intrepid?
[13:21] <XB23> i see the line
[13:21] <XB23>  /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/
[13:21] <XB23> about 11 times
[13:21] <FloodBot3> XB23: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:21] <XB23> is that right?
[13:22] <ucrit> hi.. I'm having trouble with Hardy Amd64, The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet". help please...
[13:22] <stryd_one> jrib: I have a mimeapps.list which has a few entries, but not most of them
[13:23] <deagle> how can i get my printer to print jobs of more than one copy?
[13:24] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[13:24] <Kenjiro> good morning
[13:24] <jrib> stryd_one: hmm.  You'll have to experiment, I'm not sure
[13:24] <Kenjiro> what should I do to upgrade my Ubuntu 8.04 to 8.10?
[13:24] <kim__> reinstall
[13:24] <rconan> Kenjiro, run update-manager
[13:24] <ortsvorsteher> !upgrade | Kenjiro
[13:24] <Kenjiro> kim__: funny :P
[13:25] <kim__> it is more reliable
[13:25] <syockit> doesn't gnome have any mime editor?
[13:25] <stryd_one> thx jrib. Do you know of a file monitor app? so i can run that, and see what files are changed when i use the GUI?
[13:25] <rconan> what's the best way to install a cross-compiler on ubuntu?
[13:25] <ortsvorsteher> rconan: to update from lts you need more thyn only running update manager ;)
[13:25] <jrib> syockit: what is a "mime editor"?
[13:25] <rconan> ortsvorsteher, i forget about LTS, my bad
[13:25] <Kenjiro> kim__: what is Ubuntu based on, M$ Windows?
[13:25] <ortsvorsteher> np rconan :)
[13:25] <Kenjiro> ;)
[13:25] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[13:25] <step21_> syockit: what is this "staff" you speak off?
[13:25] <syockit> jrib: for editing applications used for certain MIME types
[13:26] <kim__> Kenjiro: each time I upgraded things went wrong
[13:26] <syockit> staff?
[13:26] <jrib> syockit: it does
[13:26] <jrib> !defaultapp | syockit
[13:26] <Kenjiro> kim__: i don't get kindda problem with some other distros
[13:26] <syockit> jrib: no general one, to edit many at once?
[13:26] <kim__> Kenjiro: maybe cause I messed around too much before, but with a new install it is fine. I keep my home partition on a different partition
[13:26] <jrib> stryd_one: not offhand, no.  You could write something using inotify I guess
[13:27] <Kenjiro> kim__: yeah, but my wife doesn't like when I have to format her PC just to upgrade ubuntu
[13:27] <Kenjiro> kim__: so I am  hoping a few comands might do the job ;)
[13:27] <kim__> Kenjiro: anyway, I think you change all the hardy's in your /etc/apt/sources.list to inrepid, and run apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:28] <jrib> syockit: oh.  Not that I know of.  Though if you could highlight multiple files and use the nautilus procedure, that might be handy
[13:28] <[biabia]> my first ubuntu install, so i thought i'd install the kde and xfce desktops as well, to compare them. perhaps a bad idea, i settled on xfce as a preference and uninstalled gnome and kde but i still get the kubuntu desktop when i first boot
[13:28] <ucrit> what of the meaning of this "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet"."??
[13:28] <Dr_willis> [biabia],  you mean you get the KUBUNTU splasg screen/logo?
[13:28] <jrib> [biabia]: you mean the kubuntu usplash?  The kubuntu kdm?  Or what?
[13:29] <Pirat3> Hey
[13:29] <[biabia]> yes the kubuntu splash
[13:30] <Pirat3> Whats the quickest way to install Apache on Ubuntu 8.10?
[13:30] <deagle> how can i get my printer to print jobs of more than one copy?
[13:30] <Dr_willis> [biabia],  thats just a image file its using.. its trivial and dosent mean much
[13:30] <jrib> !lamp | Pirat3
[13:30] <Dr_willis> [biabia],  i got a picture of my grandbaby there. :)
[13:30] <Pirat3> Right
[13:30] <[biabia]> hm
[13:30] <Ohkie> hi guys. I seem to keep getting prompted by update manager to download the 2.6.27-11 headers..... this is the third day in a row ive downloaded them, rebooted and a day later have them come back?
[13:30] <[biabia]> i dont have any grandbabys
[13:30] <izinucs>  Pirat3 do you only want apache or also php and mysql?
[13:31] <Dr_willis> !usplash
[13:31] <[biabia]> i'd like a rat there
[13:31] <jrib> [biabia]: apt-cache search -n edubuntu usplash      , then either install or reconfigure the package
[13:31] <Pirat3> I would like PHP MySQL and Apache
[13:31] <Pirat3> :)
[13:31] <Pirat3> How do I install LAMP?
[13:31] <jrib> Pirat3: read the link ubottu gave you
[13:31] <Pirat3> Okay
[13:31] <bullgard4> What is the purpose/function of the process kondemand/0?
[13:32] <[biabia]> thanks Dr_willis  and jrib
[13:32] <CrownAmbassador> I know this completely off topic but I think this is the best place to do this. I was thinking those who wants to can post their twitter username so we can all connect via twitter?
[13:32] <methadone> Is there a definitive guide on how to enable BACK/FORWARD mouse buttons under Nautilus? (I've a Logitech MX Revolution)
[13:32] <jrib> CrownAmbassador: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[13:32] <izinucs> Pirat3, open System > Admin > Synaptic Pkg Manager > Edit > Mark packages by Task .. and in there you'll see the option for LAMP
[13:32] <CrownAmbassador> jrib: didn't now that exists. Thanks
[13:32] <Dr_willis> methadone,  ive seen some really good guides on the Gentoo forums/docs about tweaking to death different mice. :) but i dont use those buttons for that feature
[13:32] <jrib> methadone: I have the same mouse.  Just bind those keys to alt-left and alt-right on your keyboard using xbindkeys for example
[13:33] <Pirat3> One more question, does the PHP in LAMP have addons already installed? I need a few like GD, Memcache, mbstrings etc.
[13:33] <methadone> jrib; kewl
[13:34] <jrib> methadone: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111667/  here's mine.  Ignore the comments and the look_up_selection line.  It makes the wheel on the left cycle through tabs and clicking it closes a tab (modify accordingly)
[13:34] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[13:34] <izinucs> Pirat3, you can always add what you need.. if you use my method with synaptic it pulls most of the basic stuff.. occationally you need to ad the gd portion..
[13:34] <syockit> Pirat3: check the about php using phpinfo() or something. or you haven't installed but want to know?
[13:34] <methadone> jrib; does it have a gui ?
[13:35] <Pirat3> I havn't instaled :P
[13:35] <quibbler> Kenjiro, system>administration>software sources>updates>release upd
[13:35] <jrib> methadone: xbindkeys?  Maybe?  I don't know.  You just edit ~/.xbindkeysrc and then xbindkeys runs in the background
[13:35] <Pirat3> installled*
[13:35] <Knysliux001> hello
[13:36] <Kenjiro> quibbler: upgrade already going
[13:36] <Kenjiro> quibbler: thanks too
[13:36] <Ohkie> hi guys. I seem to keep getting prompted by update manager to download the 2.6.27-11 headers..... this is the third day in a row ive downloaded them, rebooted and a day later have them come back?
[13:36] <syockit> Pirat3: some are available as installable package. else, you might need to use pear or something
[13:36] <Kenjiro> ok, NOW the real download is running hehehehee
[13:37] <marc__> nick toto
[13:37] <marc__> nickname toto
[13:37] <kim__> if anyone here is a boff and knows LTSP, please chat to me thanks
[13:37] <jrib> Ohkie: pastebin the output of 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[13:37] <Am3ndment> Hello, after latest kernel update my ubuntu wont boot
[13:37] <syockit> marc__: /nick?
[13:37] <jrib> kim__: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[13:37] <liorc6> do ubuntu have a feature where i can browse the internet via proxy and to get 100% privacy without leaving any files or data in the computer ?
[13:37] <kim__> I need a list of clients connected to LTSP server
[13:37] <Guppy`> oooooooooooooo we aint in kansas anymore huh?
[13:37] <Dr_willis> !tor | liorc6
[13:38] <Dr_willis> liorc6,  bad url. :) check out 'tor' and
[13:38] <izinucs> Am3ndment, did you have a video driver installed you got outside the repos?
[13:38] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  I'm trying to set up a VPN connection with NM.  The Add button in "Network Connections" is grayed out.  What's going on?
[13:38] <howtoo> how can  I decompress the default ubuntu initrd.img?
[13:38] <Dr_willis> liorc6,  bad url. :) check out 'tor' and  privoxy.  - also theres firefox extensions that help do that
[13:38] <Dr_willis> !info tor
[13:38] <liorc6> okay thanks
[13:38] <Am3ndment> izinucs, i have installed it from repos. My comp crashes when it loads ubuntu, about 3 and half blocks
[13:39] <methadone> jrib; I have to get xmacroplay aswell ?
[13:40] <izinucs> Am3ndment, you might need to load the live cd and change the kernel line in your regular boot by removing "quiet splash" so you can see what's going on while booting.. it willl give you a good indication of what's failing.
[13:40] <jrib> methadone: no, that's commented (! is used to comment).  You do need xvkbd though
[13:40] <Ohkie> jrib: apparently the output trips the spam filter of pastebin.com ;)
[13:40] <jrib> Ohkie: wow, use paste.ubuntu.com
[13:41] <Knysliux001> Is it possible to use mac address filters in ufw firewall? Can't find anything about this.
[13:41] <Am3ndment> Hmh, maybe i just change grub to boot 27-9
[13:41] <simey00irc> !ops jpeg
[13:41] <Ohkie> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111673/
[13:41] <tomaw> simey00irc?
[13:41] <tomaw> hrmm
[13:42] <jrib> Ohkie: run it once
[13:42] <Am3ndment> izinucs, if i keep booting from kernel 2.6.27-9 will it cause me problems in longer run?
[13:43] <Ohkie> jrib: ok going now...... bout 3 minutes to go
[13:43] <jrib> Ohkie: i'll be back in ~10
[13:43] <Ohkie> jrib: okie dokie
[13:43] <massi> hi everyone
[13:44] <izinucs> Am3ndment, no.. not necessarily.. but you should figure out what's up with it.. eventually you'll hve to upgrade
[13:45] <Am3ndment> izinucs, what should i be looking for from logs?
[13:45] <Pirat3> Right
[13:45] <Pirat3> Any idea how I can install a Belkin wireless adapter?
[13:46] <izinucs> Am3ndment, not really sure .. anything out of the ordinary
[13:46] <Am3ndment> Hmh... :D
[13:47] <Am3ndment> Where is boot log saved?
[13:47] <kunwon1> Am3ndment, dmesg
[13:47] <poh> I messed my sound configuration up somehow and was wondering if there was a way for me to rerun the sound configuration tool that the installer runs?
[13:48] <Am3ndment> poh, you mean alsamixer?
[13:48] <massi> or alsaconf ?
[13:49] <jrib> Ohkie: are you still prompted to upgrade if you run the command again?
[13:49] <Ohkie> jrib: it wants me to reboot...... but ill try running the command again
[13:49] <jrib> Ohkie: ok, reboot then
[13:50] <Ohkie> ok
[13:50] <Ohkie> brb :P
[13:50] <poh> maybe alsaconf
[13:50] <poh> massi: is that what the ubuntu install disk uses to set up audio?
[13:51] <cdavis> Is there a tsclient *like* program for kde?
[13:51] <massi> i don't know.. in other distros, when i first installed alsa-base i used alsaconf to automatic set up my audio, but i can't find it under ubuntu..
[13:51] <SlimeyPete> cdavis: krdc?
[13:52] <unop> cdavis, you can use tsclient under KDE
[13:52] <cdavis> unop: I can't figure out how to put it in the panel like in gnome?
[13:52] <MeLinux> come si fa ad andare al canale italiano?
[13:52] <unop> !it | MeLinux
[13:53] <poh> massi: It is in alsa-utils. let me try it out
[13:53] <poh> massi: thank you
[13:53] <massi> no problem ;)
[13:53] <unop> cdavis, hmm, i wouldn't know about that .. i've never run KDE for long
[13:54] <Knysliux001> So ufw can't use mac address?
[13:54] <Ohkie> jrib: no im not prompted again now. is it possible that im somehow downloading nightly builds or something?
[13:54] <Pirat3> Any idea on how to install a Belkin F5D7050 wireless adapter?
[13:54] <UrsusTas> Ohkie, $ sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[13:55] <Ohkie> ursustas: is there a way to check what is currently being used?
[13:55] <izinucs> Pirat3, plug it in.. it should work..
[13:58] <Ohkie> jrib/ursustas: how can i check whats currently being used rather than just changing something?
[13:58] <wips> I'm having a really hard time getting a VGA driver for xubuntu, I installed xubuntu 8.10 yesterday and feel like I'm all out of ideas.
[13:58] <izinucs> wips, what kind of video card?
[13:59] <Dr_willis> VGA driver = the 'vesa' driver isent it?
[13:59] <oljenkorsi> problems with ati mobility radeon 9600 M10 too :/
[13:59] <UrsusTas> Ohkie, $ uname -r
[13:59] <wips> izinucs, well, I think I used nvidia drivers when I had ubuntu before I installed xubuntu.. but if It says SiS (Silicon Integrated Systems)..
[13:59] <IcyPolecat> quick questions about user accounts. I have a system user account and need to be able to su to it to generate ssh keys but it won't let me. Also ssh doesn't work woth that username. Any idea how I can modify this user to allow these actions?
[13:59] <Ohkie> ursustas: 2.6.27-11-generic
[14:00] <izinucs> wips, SiS can be a pain..
[14:00] <ortsvorsteher> need to identify key on keyboard to insert function in .Xmodmap. what i have to insert there. pastebin from xev by pressing left alt key http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[14:00] <JamesA_> Can I program for languages such as C, C++, C# and VB using Ubuntu? If so, what do I require?
[14:00] <wips> izinucs, Yep, had problems with it before... Irritating >.<
[14:01] <wips> izinucs, But it worked in ubuntu, so there's gotta be something I can do in xubuntu..
[14:01] <izinucs> wips, check this link out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=345492
[14:01] <Dr_willis> JamesA_,  "visualbasic' - err.. proberly not exactly.. others.. yes
[14:01] <Pirat3> How do I install LAMP on uBuntu 8.10
[14:01] <JamesA_> DR_willis I'm currently programming in Visual Basic .net
[14:01] <Ohkie> jamesA_: look into the mono project
[14:01] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: from which user to which one you need to su?
[14:01] <izinucs> Pirat3, open System > Admin > Synaptic Pkg Manager > Edit > Mark packages by Task .. and in there you'll see the option for LAMP
[14:01] <Dr_willis> JamesA_,  you have my Deepest Sympathies then...
[14:02] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: i need to su FROM rob TO nagios
[14:02] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: and as rob type "su - nagios"
[14:02] <jrib> Ohkie: apt-cache policy PACKAGE will tell you where the package is coming from
[14:02] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: with the dash?
[14:03] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: yes, in an terminal in a bash shell.
[14:03] <Pici> !compile > JamesA_
[14:03] <Pici> !ide > JamesA_
[14:03] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: ok - done that and it didn't work - am still showing as rob@monitor ...
[14:04] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: do you get any error message? what says you now when you type "id" ?
[14:04] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111689/
[14:05] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: please "grep rob /etc/passwd" and "grep nagios /etc/passwd"
[14:05] <Ohkie> jrib: should i just run the safe-upgrade command and be done with it? :)
[14:06] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111691/
[14:06] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: nagios has a /bin/false as shell. you need to change /bin/false to /bin/bash. after that you will be able to su to nagios
[14:07] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: ok - will try it...
[14:07] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: /bin/false is a dummy shell only for ftp :)
[14:09] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: SCORE!!! I assumed it was something like that but didn't know where the shell was stored. Reading the man for adduser /bin/false is for system accounts mysql, syslog snmp etc. anyway thanks for the pointer.
[14:09] <ortsvorsteher> i need to identify my left Alt key to insert function in .Xmodmap Other keys give me an keycode, left alt key not. Is here anyone able to tell me what i have to insert in .Xmodmap that left Alt key works? paste from this key is http://paste.ubuntu.com/111657/
[14:09] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: youre welcome :)
[14:10] <jrib> Ohkie: update-manager should be doing that anyway
[14:10]  * ortsvorsteher thought he gets an cookie ;)
[14:10] <Ohkie> jrib: ok
[14:11] <jrib> !cookie | ortsvorsteher
[14:11] <ortsvorsteher> :D
[14:12] <IcyPolecat> ortsvorsteher: would have given you a cookie ... had I but know how :-)
[14:12] <vock> Using 8.10, just tried to upgrade the kernel and it still says i'm using 2.26.24-19, and grub still says my default OS is Ubuntu 8.04, any way to fix this?
[14:13] <adaptr> vock: reboot
[14:13] <vock> adaptr: Did that a bunch of times, no workie :(
[14:13] <ortsvorsteher> IcyPolecat: no problem. now i know, 2 years of user administration is been good :)
[14:13] <homy> Hi! How can I make an iso (or other type of image) of a cd that has some bad sectors? I tried all at http://www.alterego7.com/2008/01/howto-creating-iso-filecd-image-in.html, but it all failed.
[14:13] <adaptr> vock: if it is saying you have 8.04, then why do you think you have 8.10 ?
[14:13] <vock> adaptr: Tried updating it like 3 times so far, and rebooting, everytime i come back
[14:13] <vock> adaptr: I installed 8.10 from the synaptics update
[14:14] <izinucs> homy, it may be just too damaged
[14:14] <IcyPolecat> homy: you could try dd-rescue but am pretty sure that CD file systems are CRC dependant so missing data will corrupt the whole iso
[14:14] <jonaskoelker> vock: well, you could edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to make it say "Ubuntu 8.10"
[14:15] <vock> adaptr: In the About, it also says i'm using 8.10
[14:15] <maodun> I open two terminals a and b.  In a I run some process foo.  From terminal b, I would like to obtain the pid of process foo.  Anyone have any ideas on how I can do this?
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> how can I dump gnome's mimetype-program associations into mailcap format?
[14:15] <Dr_willis> Make it say 'Ubuntu  - the UBER OS!'
[14:15] <Dr_willis> :)
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> :D
[14:15] <vock> jonaskoelker, Sure, but that's just fixing the text, is that all that is?
[14:15] <adaptr> vock: you said "it" says you have 8.04 - WHO says this
[14:15] <Dr_willis> UberBuntu!
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> vock: that'd just be fixing the text, yes.
[14:15] <jonaskoelker> vock: you said you updated to 8.10, right?  How did the update go?
[14:16] <adaptr> vock: how many updates does 8.04 try to install when you upgrade to 8.10 ?
[14:16] <vock> adaptr: Apologies, when I go to start up manager, it says the default operating system is 8.04 with the old kernel
[14:16] <adaptr> vock: hint: it should well exceed 1000 packages
[14:16] <FlyingBishop> vock: I assume this has already been asked, but he has run sudo update-grub, right?
[14:16] <vock> adaptr: It took about 6 hours to download
[14:16] <vock> FlyingBishop, tried that also many times
[14:16] <homy> Can't the image just say something like "blocks damaged" at the specific place with the broken sectors? I can read the cd contents fine with nautilus if I put it into my cd drive, I just can't make it to an imageö.
[14:17] <vock> jonaskoelker, After the update, it said it was successful but my computer will only run in low graphics mode now, tried fixing that yesterday to no avail, and just noticed that my kernel won't upgrade
[14:18] <jonaskoelker> vock: okay.  How many packages does the upgrader want to upgrade now [just to be certain]?
[14:18] <FlyingBishop> 'vock: do you have an external drive (or even one in the same machine?)
[14:18] <vock> jonaskoelker, none
[14:18] <FlyingBishop> vock: Because a clean install would be a really good idea.
[14:18] <vock> FlyingBishop, I have 2 harddrives, one has 2 partitions with windows on one, and ubuntu on the other
[14:19] <maodun> nm, found a solution
[14:19] <jonaskoelker> vock: okay; so that means you're running 8.10, but a (presumably small) piece of the system hasn't caught on to that
[14:19] <homy> Another problem: I can't do an update: in update manager, bzr can't be updated. The command line also says bzr has been kept back. I'm using the bzr ppa in launchpad.
[14:19] <jonaskoelker> no one knows about converting gnome's mime/app associations to mailcap?
[14:19] <FlyingBishop> vock: what are the contents of /etc/issue
[14:20] <wips> izinucs, I'm trying to install a driver from the forum thread you gave me. But it wants me to copy its file to a directory that doesnt exist on my computer. /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/. I don't have that folder.
[14:20] <vock> FlyingBishop, Ubuntu 8.10 \n \l
[14:20] <jonaskoelker> vock: and how about lsb_release -r
[14:21] <vock> jonaskoelker, Ubuntu 8.10 \n \l
[14:21] <Lake> is the username stored anywhre in the private key generated by ssh-keygen ?
[14:21] <vock> jonaskoelker, err Release:         8.10
[14:21] <jonaskoelker> vock: so the things that hold on to 8.04 are grub, and what else did you say, system->about-something?
[14:22] <vock> jonaskoelker, system->Administration->Startup Manager
[14:22] <ortsvorsteher> Lake: no in my private key it isnt
[14:22] <cdavis> can krdc make a shortcut to an rdp server? I cannot figure it out and don't want to keep trying if it isn't even possible
[14:22] <izinucs> wips, sorry. I've never had to deal with those.. I'm looking in google now.. If I come up with anything else I'll let you know.
[14:22] <vock> jonaskoelker, but i think that's just a GUI frontend for grub?
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> that's funny, I don't have "Startup Manager"
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> AFAICT
[14:23] <Dr_willis> 'just' a front end? :)
[14:23] <geirha> jonaskoelker: not installed by default
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> oic
[14:23] <geirha> vock: could you pastebin the current menu.lst?
[14:23] <jonaskoelker> geirha: it's grub-choose-default?
[14:24] <geirha> jonaskoelker: the package is called "startupmanager"
[14:24] <jonaskoelker> ah
[14:24] <jonaskoelker> :)
[14:25] <izinucs> wips, I just looked in synaptic pkg manager and there is a driver in there for SiS.  xserver-xorg-video-sis
[14:25] <vock> geirha, http://pastebin.com/m2439a455
[14:25] <vock> jonaskoelker, sorry about that
[14:25] <ucrit> hi guys,  I've got this message "The panel encountered a problem while loading "OAFIID:GNOME_ClockApplet"" what does it mean?
[14:26] <wips> izinucs, Well, it says it's already installed
[14:26] <geirha> vock: Ok, the magic comments seems to be intact, so it must be that the kernel packages haven't been installed
[14:26] <UrsusTas> Night all
[14:26] <jonaskoelker> vock: about what?
[14:26] <chronosza> anyone know of a new driver for the intel x3100?
[14:27] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | chronosza
[14:27] <vock> jonaskoelker, the wild goose chase for startupmanager
[14:27] <jonaskoelker> vock: np
[14:27] <jonaskoelker> vock: I learned something new :)
[14:27] <Dr_willis> x3100? that sounds almost like an ATI chipset name. :)
[14:27] <izinucs> wips, could be you need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and make sure that if there is a driver listed there is the correct one.. you can look at that file in terminal with "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[14:27] <vock> geirha, just did the synaptics update... not sure why it wouldn't have installed, but it's not even showing up anymore on the update list :(
[14:27] <jonaskoelker> vock: what do you have in /boot/vmlinu* ?
[14:27] <chronosza> ok ill rephrase. is there a person or bot in this channel that knows of a working driver for the intel x3100 gpu in the acer laptops?
[14:28] <ortsvorsteher> !ati
[14:28] <chronosza> Dr_willis: i wish it was an ati. alas its an itel.
[14:28] <geirha> vock: aptitude search '~i linux-image'
[14:28] <chronosza> intel
[14:28] <ortsvorsteher> !intel
[14:28] <vock> jonaskoelker, vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic
[14:28] <wips> izinucs, doesnt look like there are any drivers installed..
[14:29] <dp> I've got a BCM4306 Rev 3 card installed, and linuxwireless.org suggests that I should be using the b43 driver, but doing a modprobe b43 causes the link to never come up.  suggestions?
[14:29] <wips> izinucs, oh, wait
[14:29] <izinucs> wips.. what does it say
[14:29] <jonaskoelker> vock: and you wanted which version again?  Sorry, my memory is failing me :)
[14:29] <geirha> vock: Have you tried reinstalling the kernel-package? sudo aptitude reinstall linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic
[14:29] <wips> izinucs, "Section "Device" Identifier "Device 0" Driver "nvidia" vendorname "Nvidia Corporation"
[14:29] <Lake> ortsvorsteher: thanks for answer :)
[14:29] <vock> geirha, http://pastebin.com/m73c1a472
[14:30] <erUSUL> dp: you need to installl b43-fwcutter to get the firmware for the card installed
[14:30] <geirha> jonaskoelker: He has upgraded from 8.04 to 8.10, but only has 8.04 kernels in menu.lst
[14:30] <Boomking> hello , can anyone hello , i burnt the image of the live / alternative (tried both ) when i boot , and click on install , it gives me a black screen with a blinking underscore does any1 know the solution ????
[14:30] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: 1. the bot doesnt know, and 2. ive looked on the net and only find people saying the x3100 is not working, nothing more - hence me asking here.
[14:30] <ortsvorsteher> Lake: np. but i found a usernam in public key. you also use dsa?
[14:30] <jonaskoelker> geirha: got that.  So he just wants any newer kernel, or the default 8.10, or?
[14:30] <dp> erUSUL: already installed. I've also run /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install_bcm43xx_firmware.sh
[14:30] <vock> jonaskoelker,the newer kernel for 8.10
[14:30] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: that sounds that you have no x window running now?
[14:31] <erUSUL> dp: :/
[14:31] <izinucs> wips.. there's your issue.. you can edit the file with .. gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf .. change nvidia with sis.. save and then restart gdm
[14:31] <blunder> ok guys what is up
[14:31] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: no im in xorg. its defaulting to no acceleration. soon as i try to do something requiring acceleration it hangs.
[14:32] <vock> geirha, i'll try reinstalling now
[14:32] <Joker_-_> anyone knows of an easy way to configure a dual screen + tv-out other than having 3 video cards?
[14:32] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: you are using ubuntu 8.10? and after installing the normal X window is running, but all what needs more like compiz or else is not running?
[14:32] <blunder> I cannot use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[14:32] <Some_ux> I want to link two remote sites via VPN (link is not permanent, only raised on demand on either side) which package is best suited for this ?
[14:32] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher:  yes compiz dead, its 8.10. vmware claims no acceleration available also. so something is not happy
[14:33] <vock> restarting, will be back, thanks for all the help btw
[14:33] <chronosza> what i dont understand is if i do edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf there is no mention of any driver. has it moved?
[14:33] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: and the system uses no open source drivers?
[14:34] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: yes, the xorg.conf changes in many ways in 8.10, if you like, i paste your mine
[14:34] <Boomking> hello , can anyone help, i burnt the image of the live / alternative (tried both ) when i boot , and click on install , it gives me a black screen with a blinking underscore does any1 know the solution ???? :<
[14:34] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher:  does yours also only have 11 lines/
[14:35] <izinucs> Boomking, do you have an nvidia 8200 chipset board?
[14:35] <yaztromo> chronosza everything is configured automatically these days so u will very little in xorg.conf now
[14:35] <Boomking> nope , amd 690v
[14:35] <Lake> Boomking: did you try booting the OS from the livecd ?
[14:35] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: yes, at first time till i configured it. wait sometime, i try to paste my first xorg.conf and my yet working...
[14:35] <izinucs> Boomking, is that a newer board?
[14:35] <Boomking> lake : yes i did
[14:35] <chronosza> yaztromo:  aah ok.
[14:35] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher:  thanks
[14:35] <Boomking> ummm am2 not realy like a year old
[14:36] <yaztromo> if you specify something in xorg.conf it will override anything else though
[14:36] <chronosza> hmmmm. so in fact it might not even be using any intel drivers?
[14:36] <chronosza> could be using vga for all i know :)
[14:36] <izinucs> Boomking, I had an issue with my am2 board.. xfxforce.. I had to add pci=nomsi to the kernel line to get it to boot properly.. even with the live cd
[14:36] <Boomking> the media is fine tho it works on my old machine :S
[14:36] <Lake> Boomking: well did it boot ?
[14:36] <blunder> is it possible that us.archive.ubuntu.com is down?
[14:37] <Boomking> the cd boots fine , izinucs : i think i will try that
[14:37] <vock> geirha, jonaskoelker, no luck, uname -r still gives 2.6.24-19-generic
[14:37] <yaztromo> check your logs in /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[14:37] <vock> geirha, jonaskoelker, after the reinstall and reboot
[14:37] <Boomking> i just updated my bios thought that might help :/
[14:37] <yaztromo> you will what driver it chose
[14:37] <yaztromo> *see
[14:37] <chronosza> yaztromo: where? i thought it would be in xorg.conf?
[14:37] <geirha> vock: menu.lst remains unchanged then I assume?
[14:37] <izinucs> Boomking, yea.. it booted fine on my machine until I tried to install.. then I had issues with the partition manager and other areas
[14:37] <jonaskoelker> vock: any new entries in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[14:37] <kingfishr> why is ubuntu trying to reinstall 2.6.27-11 every day? It's already successully installed.
[14:38] <jonaskoelker> vock: you could always just add a new entry yourself...
[14:38] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: http://pastebin.com/f426cb64a is the first one and http://pastebin.com/f43c1a40 is my actual one
[14:38] <Boomking> so was all fine in the end ?
[14:38] <Boomking> Izinucs*
[14:38] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: okay the second one looks more like what i remember :)
[14:39] <yaztromo> yep the small one is the new auto way
[14:39] <geirha> vock: One thing I would try is to rename /boot/grub/menu.lst and then run "sudo update-grub". That should create a brand new menu.lst. See if the newer kernels get added to that one.
[14:39] <izinucs> Boomking, yes.. except I just discovered a trick in menu.list to add the necessary line so when you get a kernel upgrade it doesn't go bonkers on you again
[14:39] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: hope it helps. if not, try to paste your question here again with more details :)
[14:39] <yaztromo> if you look in the xorg log you will all the things it chose tho
[14:39] <chronosza> i dont suppose theres an intel-xconfig? :)
[14:39] <Druidika> Hi Folks, i've a question with building a .deb. I've built a .deb but i want to automatically remove warzone2100* befode my .deb gets installed
[14:39] <Druidika> how can i do this?
[14:39] <Boomking> izinucs: can u please share :) lol this has been driving me crazy
[14:40] <vock> geirha, jonaskoelker: update-grub said it found the new kernel, but menu.lst stays the same
[14:40] <izinucs> Boomking, hang on and I'll pastebin mine.. it's not the same one I modified but I'll put an indicator in there where you're suppose to add and what..
[14:40] <jonaskoelker> vock, geirha : I'm out for 10-15m; I'm sure geirha can guide you around just fine :)
[14:40] <Boomking> kk kwl :D
[14:40] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: gonna try adding the driver sections in forcing intel driver to see what happens.
[14:41] <vock> jonaskoelker, thanks for all the help
[14:41] <jonaskoelker> vock: yw :)
[14:41] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: at first make a backup of your xorg.conf ;)
[14:41] <vock> geirha; just change the file path to the new kernel than in the menu.lst ?
[14:41] <geirha> vock: even when you moved/renamed away menu.lst?
[14:42] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: good point.
[14:42] <vock> geirha: that would have been smarter on my part, i'll try that
[14:42] <yaztromo> chronosza you can see what driver is being used with xvinfo
[14:42] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: btw, is your box using an free driver for your intel device?
[14:42] <yaztromo> xvinfo | grep adapter
[14:42] <Druidika> Can anybody help me with building a .deb?
[14:43] <XB23> hey guys  apt-get autoremove  is removing things that are still needed
[14:43] <XB23> is there a way to reset it
[14:43] <chronosza> yaztromo:  Adaptor #0: "Intel(R) Textured Video"
[14:43] <dp> anyone else have suggestions about b43?
[14:43] <XB23> so it wont
[14:43] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: i assume the free one? i have not installed anything
[14:43] <yaztromo> sounds like you have the intel driver in use
[14:44] <chronosza> oh. darn
[14:44] <chronosza> so forcing it in xorg.conf is pointless
[14:44] <vock> geirha: thanks, that fixed it
[14:44] <vock> geirha; now all i need to do is put the windows partition back, but can just copy/paste that from the old menu.lst, correct?
[14:44] <izinucs> Boomking, http://pastebin.com/f23d22f7a
[14:45] <Boomking> thanks alot :D
[14:45] <geirha> vock: Yes. Make sure it's after the ### END AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST ...
[14:45] <vock> geirha: perfect, thanks
[14:46] <vock> geirha: rebooting hopefully it all works, thanks a lot for your help, learned some too
[14:46] <hwilde> guys I am hearing complaints the new kernel updates breaks nvidia/x11.  is this confirmed ?
[14:46] <geirha> vock: must be a small typo somewhere in the old menu.lst that caused the problems then ...
[14:46] <Boomking> izinucs: now to just figur out what to do with this lol , might have to get one of my friends over he = zealot
[14:46] <Blais1> Hi guys, does anyone here know anything about vobcopy, I'm ripping a 4GB DVD, but it's taking hours!
[14:46] <geirha> vock: crossing fingers :)
[14:46] <yaztromo> chronosza what is the output of cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver
[14:46] <yaztromo> does that tell you?
[14:47] <mapreduce> Hi.  I find that downloading large files either with wget or firefox often results in corrupt files.  I have a suspicion that the network card may be dodgy.  The computer used to run Windows, and had the same problem there.
[14:47] <mapreduce> However, IRC and general internet use works fine.  Is there anything I can check?
[14:47] <hyperboreean> hey, does anyone know where the mkinitrd command is in ubuntu 8.10?
[14:47] <chronosza> yaztromo: can i pase about 10 lines?
[14:47] <yaztromo> i dont think so, u might get auto kicked
[14:47] <yaztromo> but you should see the driver it chose in there
[14:47] <Pici> !paste | chronosza
[14:47] <izinucs> Boomking, did you look in the pastebin and see the line modification?
[14:47] <Matir`> mapreduce, I'd look more at HD or RAM than network card if it's just downloading large files that has a problem
[14:48] <mapreduce> Matir`: Ok, I'll do that, thanks.
[14:48] <Boomking> izinucs: well i got the link , but iam quite a newb so i might need to get a friend to help
[14:48] <yaztromo> chronosza, you should see something like "Matched nv for the autoconfigured driver"
[14:49] <mapreduce> Kind of annoying that not every large file provider gives md5sums..
[14:49] <yaztromo> there will be your answer as to what its doing
[14:49] <sarmisak> hi all
[14:49] <chronosza> yaztromo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111716/
[14:49] <vock> geirha: Thanks a lot, fixed the kernel, and also fixed the nvidia/xorg problem i was having when i upgraded to 8.10
[14:49] <yabuk> I've instaled ubuntu 8.04 on a laptop, but I just get 800x600 of resolution.  I use sudo displayconfig-gtk to set a corect drive, but how will I know what drive to use?
[14:49] <geirha> !yay | vock
[14:49] <izinucs> Boomking, open the link and copy and paste the info in there to a file..  when you look at it you'll see a line where I wrote a comment describing what and where to put the modification.
[14:49] <chronosza> yaztromo:  matched intel for autocon....
[14:50] <yaztromo> chronosza, yep you are definitely using the intel driver
[14:50] <izinucs> Boomking, you still need to see if the mod actually works for you and your motherboard
[14:50] <Dave321> I'm trying to install Ubuntu.  The installation disk freezes so I have to use the alternative setup disk.  I have a wireless card (PC60G).  How do I connect to my secure wireless network during installation?
[14:51] <kcsreddy> yes
[14:51] <chronosza> yaztromo: is there anything else i can try? or is there one intel driver for all the gpus?
[14:51] <izinucs> Dave123, I suggest turning off the wireless security during install..
[14:51] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: i use a german ubuntu. may you take a look at system -> system preferences -> hardware drivers. is there anything in?
[14:51] <Boomking> izinucs: i plan to test it soon as i know what iam looking at :P
[14:51] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: yes one item - broadcom drivers for wifi/gigabit lan
[14:51] <izinucs> Boomking, have you actually done the install yet? or are you having issues with the live cd.?
[14:52] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: but no driver for your video device?
[14:52] <chronosza> ortsvorsteher: unfortunately not.
[14:52] <yaztromo> chronosza, yes there's only one afaik. What is the problem you are having?
[14:52] <Boomking> izinucs having issues with the live/ alternative , cd's
[14:52] <chronosza> yaztromo: nothing with 3d acceleration can run without locking up the system and vmware worksation claims i have no acceleration.
[14:53] <kcsreddy> how to install real player 11 on ubuntu 8.10
[14:53] <ortsvorsteher> chronosza: sry so i havent any idea cause i have no intel devices in laptop or my box. hope you geht help here! :)
[14:53] <Boomking> izinucs: when i click install on both cd's i jsut get the black screen with the flashing underscore
[14:53] <ortsvorsteher> kcsreddy: for what you need real player? does may vlc make the work which you want?
[14:54] <yaztromo> chronosza, you should install glxinfo from synaptic and see whether direct rendering is on or not
[14:54] <izinucs> Boomking, ok.. on the live cd.. when you get to the screen with the menu to "install with no modification"  .. the first option.. hit F6 and at the end of the line that appears add pci=nomsi and then hit enter.. It should take you to the live cd desktop at that point.. if it did then the mod worked.
[14:54] <chronosza> yaztromo: doing it now...
[14:54] <yaztromo> what is the intel chipset u have?
[14:54] <ortsvorsteher> !realplayer | kcsreddy
[14:55] <jeremie> kcsreddy >> http://crunchbang.org/archives/2008/05/19/howto-install-realplayer-on-ubuntu/
[14:55] <Boomking> izinucs: iam gna try that quick
[14:55] <chronosza> yaztromo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111717/
[14:56] <chronosza> yaztromo:  at first glance i would say direct rendering is on?
[14:56] <Doonz> hey guys. i was using screen in my shell i was brosing the net using elinks. it crashed on me so i killed the window it was in. now when i lauch screen it starts up and then when it asks you to hit enter and returns you to the shell it gives me a whole bunch of errors and doesnt work. any ideas?
[14:56] <Doonz> http://pastebin.com/m3ca43b27 <-- errors
[14:56] <kcsreddy> there is any chance to install google talk
[14:57] <jonaskoelker> geirha, vock: did you get it fixed?
[14:57] <vock> jonaskoelker, yeah, worked out great
[14:57] <jonaskoelker> vock: cool.  Happy hacking then, I guess :)
[14:57] <yaztromo> chronosza, thats good!
[14:59] <izinucs> kcsreddy, you can use pidgin for google talk.. won't give you video though
[14:59] <rapha> Hi all!
[14:59] <chronosza> yaztromo: it is?
[14:59] <rapha> How can I get PHP >= 5.1.3 on Ubuntu Dapper?
[14:59] <yaztromo> chronosza, you are using the correct driver and acceleration is on so i don't know what it could be
[14:59] <rapha> (_without_ compiling from source!)
[14:59] <zash> rapha: check if the debianrepo with only php still exists
[14:59] <chronosza> yaztromo: oh. hmmmm. so i might have been looking in the wrong place all along.
[15:00] <rapha> zash: what debian repo?
[15:00] <yaztromo> chronosza, you should try asking the forums or submitting a bug to bugzilla
[15:00] <chronosza> yaztromo: if i enable compiz for example, as soon as i click anything that tries to do something fancy, it starts doing it and X is dead. you cant use keyboard, only mouse responds.
[15:00] <zash> rapha: the one i used when i ran debian on my server ..
[15:00]  * ortsvorsteher is away
[15:01] <yaztromo> chronosza, is it just compiz?
[15:01] <rapha> zash: but i never moved from debian to ubuntu. the server has always been ubuntu.
[15:01] <chronosza> yaztromo: only checked that. let me fire up one of the opengl screensavers and see what happens
[15:01] <zash> rapha: http://www.dotdeb.org/
[15:01] <rapha> thx zash!
[15:01] <zash> :D
[15:02] <Boomking> izinucs: thanks alot i finaly got past the instaltion :) do i have to worry about anything else untill a kernal update ?
[15:03] <thinkgnu> The following NEW packages will be installed: yakuake{a} yakuake-kde4
[15:04] <thinkgnu> The following packages will be REMOVED:libmsn0.1{u} linux-headers-2.6.27-7{u} linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic{u}
[15:04] <thinkgnu> is this ok ?
[15:04] <thinkgnu> :p
[15:04] <FloodBot3> thinkgnu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:04] <thinkgnu> just 2 line !
[15:05] <izinucs> Boomking, great!. once the system is installed you'll have to use the live cd to edit the same line in the installed system so it will boot.. you'll have to mount the drive and change directories to /boot/grub.. in there is the menu.lst file that needs modification.. put the mod on the actual kernel line in there.. save and reboot without the live cd.. then you have to go back in and make the mod like I
[15:05] <izinucs> pastebin-ed it..
[15:06] <Wille_eee> Hello, new to ubuntu, but fint it intersting. now ia am looking for an application that allows me to brows or monitor every in and outgoing traffic on my router, it's an open system yet. /msg me
[15:06] <Chronosza> yaztromo: um, ok that was not good :)
[15:07] <yaztromo> Chronosza, lol yes i saw you quit
[15:07] <Chronosza> yaztromo: i went through the screen-saver previews and as i clicked on Bubbles3D everything froze solid :)
[15:07] <gordonjcp> Wille_eee: possibly wireshark
[15:07] <thinkgnu> any idea ? :-/ http://paste.ubuntu.com/111723/      yes/no ?
[15:08] <Wille_eee> gordonjcp, ok tnx, i'll try.
[15:08] <Boomking> izinucs: :O ok so iam gna finish installing it , but then boot in with the live option :S
[15:08] <yaztromo> Chronosza, You should post a bug report on bugzilla
[15:09] <Chronosza> bugzilla.org?
[15:09] <yaztromo> Are you running latest ubuntu?
[15:09] <yaztromo> yes
[15:09] <Chronosza> yaztromo: 8.10
[15:09] <izinucs> Boomking, yep.. and make the edit on the newly installed system
[15:09] <yaztromo> Have you updated it
[15:09] <velko> thinkgnu: go ahead. it's ok
[15:10] <jonaskoelker> what do you guys use for automatic location-dependent configuration?  e.g. when I'm at my university, I want vpnc to be running and the pcspkr module to not be loaded, and the inverse when I'm at home...
[15:10] <jonaskoelker> I can cook up my own shell script, but it feels kinda' "meh..."
[15:10] <macman> hey guys .. im trying to copy something to my external but i can't .. here is fstab type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096
[15:11] <allquixotic> msg NickServ identify zeit1geist
[15:11] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> when I take my laptop offa' AC, something makes a "click" noise between 3 and 10 seconds later.  How can I get rid of the noise?
[15:12] <Chronosza> theres so many bots in here they gonna turn on us one day i tell u :)
[15:12] <jonaskoelker> In system->prefs->snd I have "play alerts and sounds" unchecked...
[15:12] <blunder> is there a irc log of this channel on a website?
[15:12] <Pici> !logs | blunder
[15:12] <_VIM_> !log
[15:13] <blunder> ty
[15:13] <yaztromo> Chronosza, Have you updated your ubuntu?
[15:13] <rapha> argl
[15:13] <rapha> the dotdeb repos dont work :-/
[15:13] <Chronosza> yaztromo: no.
[15:13] <rapha> is there really no way to get php 5.1.3 on Dapper?!
[15:13] <Chronosza> yaztromo: was leaving that until i get the graphics going
[15:14] <yaztromo> Chronosza, Update is a good try maybe there is a fix in the latest build
[15:14] <yaztromo> sudo apt-get update
[15:14] <thehook> rapha: php.net and compile it
[15:14] <yaztromo> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:14] <Chronosza> yaztromo: ok its running. 245mb to download so i should be done by the time we've retired and live in a nice condo near the beach.
[15:14] <jonaskoelker> no one knows about the AC-unplug clicking noise? :(
[15:14] <rapha> thehook: yaztromo: that's a production server ... i'm not entirely comfortable with either one of these steps.
[15:15] <blunder> what are loco?
[15:15] <yaztromo> rapha, sorry was talking to Chronosza
[15:15] <jonaskoelker> blunder: local communities
[15:15] <blunder> gotcha
[15:15] <jonaskoelker> blunder: at least if "loco" is understood in an Ubuntu context
[15:15] <jonaskoelker> blunder: it's also spanish for "crazy", IIRC
[15:15] <blunder> hehhehe
[15:16] <blunder> thanks tons guys
[15:16] <jonaskoelker> it's where all the ubuntu nutjobs get together :D
[15:16] <yaztromo> Chronosza, let me know i will be around until the end of this hour
[15:16] <macman> any ideas ?
[15:16] <thehook> rapha: what version are you running now?
[15:16] <Chronosza> yaztromo: i wont be done in at least 3h at the speed its going now.
[15:18] <zash> rapha: and you don't want to upgrade to 8.04 LTS ?
[15:18] <jonaskoelker> in sh, is there a way to break out of a case stmt?
[15:18] <zash> jonaskoelker: esac ?
[15:19] <adaptr> he did say :break out of"
[15:19] <DarkKnight> hey I wanted to set up a mirror for ubuntu...can anyone provide me with proper info
[15:19] <nascentmind> hi. When kde starts i get this message from phonon "the audio playback device HDA Intel (ALC888 Analog) does not work. Falling back to HDA ATI HDMI,ATI HDMI (HDMI Audio Ouput)" . Can somebody help me with this?
[15:19] <adaptr> jonaskoelker: exit, return, break ?
[15:19] <jonaskoelker> zash: no, esac is spelled "}" in C, I want something that's spelled "break" in C
[15:19] <zash> jonaskoelker: ;; then
[15:20] <jonaskoelker> zash: can ";;" be done conditionally?
[15:20] <DarkKnight> hey I wanted to set up a mirror for ubuntu...can anyone help me with this
[15:20] <zash> jonaskoelker: case $something in; something) stuff;; nextsomething) blabla;; esac
[15:21] <zash> jonaskoelker: http://p.zash.se/ApfY1A.txt
[15:21] <jonaskoelker> zash: case $foo in *) $bar; if [ "$foo" != "baz" ] break; $baz ;; esac
[15:22] <zash> jonaskoelker: does if [ .. ]; then ;; fi fail?
[15:22] <Pici> jonaskoelker: #bash would probably be a better place to get this question answered :)
[15:22] <int_overflow> hi. anyone know a solution to this? http://bugs.adobe.com/jira/browse/FP-971 >> Could you simply downgrade flashplugin?
[15:23] <mercutio22> Hi, If I add google's repository to install picasa I can't start synaptic package manager can anyone confirm this?
[15:23] <jonaskoelker> zash: yep
[15:23] <jonaskoelker> Pici: true :)
[15:23] <jonaskoelker> I'll just hack around it
[15:23] <rapha> zash: only if there's absolutely no other possibility. I have to say I'm more than a bit disappointed - I had always thought "long term support" meant more than just the bare minimum of updates.
[15:24] <rapha> thehook: PHP 5.1.2 - just need 5.1.3.
[15:24] <rapha> yaztromo: no prob, sry :-P
[15:25] <step21_> rapha: well long term support not changing too many things that would otherwise be included in an upgrade ... so if you want new stuff lts is not for you I think
[15:25] <zash> "stable as in stable api" or somethnig
[15:26] <ubuntu_> hello
[15:26] <step21_> mercutio22: can't confirm. this only makes sense if you somehow added the repository wrong and that crashes synaptic, but even that is really unlikely
[15:26] <zash> rapha: have you tried backports?
[15:26] <jonaskoelker> my laptop makes a clicking noise when I unplug the AC.  How do I get rid of that?
[15:27] <jonaskoelker> it only started doing that after a software upgrade, so I suspect it's a "feature"
[15:27] <nascentmind> anybody?
[15:27] <ubuntu_> I have a small problem
[15:27] <ubuntu_> http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/5139/snapei8.png
[15:28] <jonaskoelker> ubuntu_: is that finnish?
[15:28] <mercutio22> step21_> could you tell by looking at my sources.list?
[15:28] <izinucs> ubuntu_, what's the problem
[15:28] <usser> hi is there any alternative to pidgin, i just need icq support
[15:29] <adaptr> usser: dozens
[15:29] <jonaskoelker> do any of you experience a click when you take your laptops off of AC?
[15:29] <hatter243> !icq
[15:29] <hatter243> !kopete | usser
[15:29] <chi_> hi all, QUESTION on $xinit ... i want to run it as user.. what do i have to do?
[15:29] <usser> adaptr, lets refine it :) non-kde, something simple
[15:29] <jonaskoelker> usser: there are many; try apt-cache search icq :)
[15:30] <jonaskoelker> usser: I've tried centericq and bitlbee... bitlbee has the advantage that you get IM and IRC together in a way that doesn't suck
[15:30] <usser> jonaskoelker, thanks i'll give them both a shot
[15:30] <mercutio22> step21_> http://www.pastebin.ca/1322817
[15:30] <BridgeInhabitant> when I shut down in ubuntu the ethernet light remains on, how do I turn this off when I shutdown?
[15:31] <rapha> zash: it's backports where 5.1.2 comes from.
[15:31] <izinucs> usser, finch, ysm, jwchat, jabber, ayttm
[15:31] <hatter243> BridgeInhabitant, unplug the computer or ethernet cable.
[15:31] <rapha> step21_: well, PHP 5.1.2 and 5.1.3 are API compatible. It's a minor upgrade, so it would be logical to have a backport for it.
[15:31] <usser> izinucs, thank you
[15:31] <BridgeInhabitant> hatter243, ok, but the fact remains the ethernet card is still active as I am using a laptop
[15:32] <joaboaconstrctr_> A question-when I do an ls -lF command, for my home directory, ownership is coming up all root.  This does not seem right.  Should I do a chown to me?  Anyone...Bueller?
[15:32] <izinucs> usser, you can search synaptic for icq and come up with lots of references.. from terminal apt-cache search icq
[15:32] <BridgeInhabitant> hatter243, this may also be linked to another ethernet bug I am currently having so having it shutdown properly could be the fix
[15:32] <usser> izinucs, yea did that, looking through my numerous options :) thank you
[15:32] <hatter243> BridgeInhabitant, it's not active, it's a link light, it means that the cable is plugged into something that has power in it. It is not ubuntu related, this is hardware related. Windows, Mac, whatever will all do the same thing
[15:33] <BridgeInhabitant> hatter243, the thing is windows does not do the same thing
[15:33] <izinucs> usser, np..
[15:33] <jonaskoelker> usser: centericq is command-line, bitlbee's interface is a through your irc client, so it's kinda' command line too
[15:34] <usser> jonaskoelker, izinucs thank you for your help, ayttm looks really nice
[15:34] <hatter243> BridgeInhabitant, I bet it does...
[15:34] <BridgeInhabitant> hatter243, I have tested that in windows and it doesn't
[15:34] <usser> izinucs, jonaskoelker was looking for something like this fast/lean with no dependencies :) thank you guys
[15:34] <kiru> am trying to install linuxtv and get this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111735/
[15:34] <BridgeInhabitant> hatter243 I do not use WOL so I do not need my ethernet on after shutdown
[15:35] <kiru> does any one know why this occurs by make install?
[15:35] <hatter243> BridgeInhabitant, It's a link light! unplug it it turns off!
[15:36] <BridgeInhabitant> hatter243, its not suppose to be powered on to be able to detect a link
[15:36] <AJC_Z0> How do I add an application to handle media which I choose from the popup when I insert removable media (DVD, CD)?
[15:36] <thinkgnu> i  have no idea about this error ! libqt4-dev: Depends: libqt4-dbus (= 4.4.3-0ubuntu1) but 4.4.3-0ubuntu1.2 is installed , any solution ?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/111737/
[15:37] <chi_> hiho! my 2nd Xserver on display:1.0 is refusing connections from my user... the xserver is started as root?  PLS HLP ... can i start the 2nd Xserver as user too?
[15:37] <joaboaconstrctr_> Nothing worse than asking a dumb question twice, but should ALL my files in my home directory be owned by me, and not root.  I am finding this not to be the case.
[15:37] <nomingzi> what software to open file with extension .rar ?
[15:37] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, yes home directory should be owned by user
[15:38] <fishsponge_> hey people - does anyone know if my mythbuntu box is going to recognise a UPS plugged in through USB?
[15:38] <usser> nomingzi, file-roller from gnome should open it you just need to install unrar
[15:38] <zash> rapha: how much do you not want to compile?
[15:38] <chi_> nomingzi, unrar unrar-free unrarnonfree
[15:38] <tyranos> can someone help unetbootin has overwritten my windwos bootloader
[15:38] <AJC_Z0> fishsponge_: Plug it in and watch your messages to see
[15:39] <nomingzi> "Add/Remove Application" to search for unrar --> but it do not found !
[15:39] <samrose> anyone have recommendations for sharing ubuntu screen (64 bit) with users of other operating systems?
[15:39] <usser> nomingzi, open terminal and type sudo apt-get install unrar
[15:39] <hatter243> nomingzi, apt-get install unrar
[15:40] <joaboaconstrctr_> usser> would I utilize sudo chown ~/*  ?
[15:40] <BenSmith> How can I set up a external hdd to run ubuntu server?
[15:40] <chi_> BenSmith, live CD and install on external HDD
[15:40] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, sudo chown $USERNAME:$USERNAME ~ would do
[15:40] <crocd> BenSmith: yea
[15:40] <linduxed> i want to check a users groups, how do i check that?
[15:40] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_,err sudo chown -R $USERNAME:$USERNAME ~ would do
[15:41] <crocd> BenSmith: you need to make sure it is bootable if using usb in the bios
[15:41] <joaboaconstrctr_> usser thanks i'll give it a try
[15:41] <nomingzi> usser, hatter243, why unrar is not listed in "Add/Remove Application" in Gnome GUI mode?
[15:41] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, oops no
[15:41] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, that would chown the root home folder
[15:41] <BenSmith> crocd:How do I make the harddrive bootable
[15:41] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, sudo chown -R $USERNAME:$USERNAME /home/$USERNAME
[15:41] <chi_> well so is someone familiar with xinit -- :1.0 ? or X 1.0 ? or Xorg 1.0?
[15:41] <Joker_-_> whats the command to list ports on a box? (I'm not home and I wanna know if one of my box has an AGP port)
[15:41] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, sorry
[15:41] <crocd> BenSmith: is it a usb hard drive ?
[15:42] <chi_> BenSmith, well good question you should consult your bios
[15:42] <hatter243> nomingzi, add/remove applications does not contain every package available to ubuntu
[15:42] <joaboaconstrctr_> usser no problem .  Do I have to prefix username with the $ sign?
[15:43] <BenSmith> crocd: It is a usb hard drive.  But has the capability to be firewire if that makes a difference
[15:43] <chi_> Joker_-_,  you mean sluts for cards?
[15:43] <Pirat3> Hello, I have installed LAMP, how can I check which addons are in PHP?
[15:43] <zash> joaboaconstrctr_: no?
[15:43] <Joker_-_> chi_: yep
[15:43] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, yea $USERNAME is an environment variable that expands to your username
[15:43] <insa> a
[15:43] <BenSmith> chi_:I believe that my BIOS does not recognize it as a bootable harddrive when it is pluged in.
[15:43] <insa> a
[15:43] <insa> a
[15:43] <insa> a
[15:43] <insa> a
[15:44] <crocd> easiest to make sure your system can select usb as a bootable source in the BIOS. Then do the install on that drive
[15:44] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, argh, my bad once again, not $USERNAME $USER
[15:44] <usser> joaboaconstrctr_, im sorry, must not be my day :)
[15:44] <chi_> Joker_-_,  man lspci          => option -b seems to be promising to me
[15:44] <zash> usser: $USERNAME works for me?
[15:44] <crocd> BenSmith: easiest to make sure your system can select usb as a bootable source in the BIOS. Then do the install on that drive
[15:44] <zleap> hi
[15:44] <Pirat3> Hello, I have installed LAMP, how can I check which addons are in PHP?
[15:44] <Joker_-_> chi_: thx
[15:44] <chi_> Joker_-_,  just a guess =)
[15:44] <zleap> my other box running ubuntu 8.04 auto mounts my pen drive fine
[15:44] <usser> zash, hm,really i just tried echo $USERNAME prints blank
[15:45] <zleap> so ihave printed out the appropriate files mtab and fstab
[15:45] <JaspionBR> guys, I've a problem. My update center dont start. I press "update now" and his came back to begin.
[15:45] <BenSmith> crocd: Thanks.  The harddrive used to be used as a backup for mac.  Does this make a difference
[15:45] <Joker_-_> chi_: nope, lists only pci things
[15:45] <chi_> BenSmith,  yeah, in your bios, there should be the option to boot from 'WHEREEVER YOUR HDD IS CONNECTED TO'  ...
[15:45] <geirha> Pirat3: make a php-page that outputs the return value of phpinfo();
[15:45] <blunder> whoa.... here a help site to bookmark for later... http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p15.htm
[15:45] <zash> usser: env says $USER = $USERNAME = $LOGNAME = `whoami`
[15:45] <Pirat3> Right
[15:45] <Pirat3> How do I do that?
[15:46] <BenSmith> chi_:Ok. Ill take a look.
[15:46] <Elo001> Hi, im new to linux, so its probably a dumb question, but i just realised ubuntu changed (actually reset) some windows settings
[15:46] <geirha> Pirat3: <?php echo phpinfo(); ?>
[15:46] <Elo001> any way to restore that?
[15:46] <hwilde> need command line music player please!
[15:46] <d-b> mplayer
[15:46] <Pirat3> So just paste that into a file and save it as a .php?
[15:46] <zash> hwilde: some mpd client?
[15:46] <Joker_-_> chi_: dmesg | grep agp :D
[15:46] <crocd> BenSmith: not really, if it is a unix type partition should be ok, if it is fat32 then you should be able to see it. When you run the installation you should be able to install it on the USB drive if it is detected in the partition section of the install
[15:46] <geirha> Pirat3: Yes, then instruct your browser to view that file
[15:47] <bobbob1016_> I'm not getting any sound.  I've unmuted everything, and aplay -l has my card, and still no sound, any ideas?
[15:47] <DarkSmoke> hey guys
[15:47] <Acedip> how to setup dial up internet connection in ubuntu
[15:47] <Pirat3> Ill go try it :)
[15:47] <Acedip> ?????
[15:47] <DarkSmoke> i checked the groups i am in
[15:47] <chi_> Joker_-_,  :) nice
[15:47] <blunder> hwilde: moc?
[15:47] <chi_> Joker_-_,  sudo dmidecode maybe too
[15:47] <adam> I'm having trouble finding out what JCPU and PCPU mean when using the 'w' command from the shell
[15:47] <crocd> BenSmith: are you running windows on it at the moment? What box is it?
[15:47] <Joker_-_> chi_: thx, I have an agp port on that box ;)
[15:47] <geirha> Pirat3: Actually, it prints the info itself, so all you need is <?php phpinfo(); ?>, but both should work
[15:48] <kiru> how do i run usb-dvb-t on linux?
[15:48] <BenSmith> crocd: I'm running Vista x64, on an ASUS P5Q PRO.
[15:48] <chi_> Joker_-_,  the dmidecode command is very helpful to those questions,... at least you know what is in your box, but your solution is much nicer :)
[15:49] <adam> nvm, I found the answer in the *echo* man pages
[15:49] <DarkSmoke> i checked the groups i am in and i wasnt in the groups to get video accelartion and audio (tough i still had them) but when i created a new user for my gf she was in them, why is this?
[15:49] <Joker_-_> chi_: yeah usually, if something exists in your box, dmesg should list it
[15:49] <Pirat3> I'm having trouble finding the file that displays "It works!" when I browse to local host. Any idea where I can find this?
[15:50] <pattwo_> Pirat3, it's usually at /var/www/index.html
[15:50] <usser> Pirat3, /var/www
[15:50] <mneptok> Pirat3: the apache www root is defined in the config file
[15:50] <Pirat3> Thought so :)
[15:50] <Pirat3> I was just checking that was the right index.html file
[15:50] <ryu> ho
[15:50] <ryu> 여긴 어딘가
[15:50] <mneptok> Pirat3: you should be learning the apache configuration file syntax before using the daemon ;)
[15:50] <techsuperfreak> I recently ran the recent updates for the kernel and a few others and now no Gnome after logging in, anyone else seen this?
[15:50] <chi_> Joker_-_,  did not know it, just used lspci to find bus adresses of devices for udev rules...
[15:50] <rdw200169> !ko | ryu
[15:50] <Pici> !zh | ryu
[15:51] <fserve> c/
[15:51] <crocd> BenSmith: should be easy if you change your bios to be able to boot from a USB device then run the Live cd and install it on the USB drive. What should happen is that grub is installed on the internal hard drive of the pc. Or you can go to www.pendrivelinux.com and grab a USB boot iso to creat the full install on that. That way you wont touch the internal drive with any changes
[15:51] <DarkSmoke> i checked the groups i am in and i wasnt in the groups to get video accelartion and audio (tough i still had them) but when i created a new user for my gf she was in them, why is this?
[15:51] <crocd> BenSmith: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/category/install-to-usb-hard-drive/
[15:51] <chi_> BenSmith,  sideremark ... an MP3-player is maybe no massstoragedevice :)
[15:51] <crocd> BenSmith: there are all the isntructions.
[15:52] <rdw200169> 고맙습니다, ryu
[15:52] <Droopsta915> what can I install to make website a bit more clear? When I get on yahoo, all the small pictures are kinda blury.
[15:52] <bendin> I just installed a raft of updates to intrepid (8.10) on my dell mini9, which included linux-2.6.27-11.
[15:52] <bendin> ﻿Hardwired ethernet no no longer works. (i.e. it fails after trying for about a half a minute every time I tell it to go connect.) Anyone seen anything similar?
[15:52] <BenSmith> chi_: haha no this is 250GB LACIE HDD
[15:52] <chi_> okay BenSmith
[15:52] <Pirat3> Grrr. I can't move my file into that location. I don't have enough permissions? Could someone please help? :)
[15:53] <chi_> still need help for my xinit problem... xserver on :1,0 (root) is refusing connections from user
[15:53] <Nichisai> Hi there. Can anyone explain to me if there's a way to get boost 1.37 packages for jaunty, installed hardy? (Is this what backports are meant for?)
[15:53] <BenSmith> crocd:  I currently have ubuntu server on a bootable flash drive.  I created this using the System>Administration>Create USB boot drive.
[15:53] <pattwo_> Pirat3: sudo is your friend
[15:53] <jiffe89> is it possible to boot the ubuntu install cd over pxe?
[15:54] <Pirat3> Is there a way to do it without sudo? Like permanently set permissions?
[15:54] <goran__> hi guys, i just installed new nvidia driverse (180.11) and i'm experiencing some color loss
[15:54] <crocd> jiffe89: should be able to
[15:54] <goran__> for example, i can see stripes on my background etc...
[15:54] <goran__> does anyone know what could be the problem?
[15:54] <chi_> Pirat3, of cause you can set the permission via chmod or chown to the files ( but the change command must be run as root) afaik
[15:54] <geirha> Pirat3: " sudo chown $USER /var/www " should give your user full access to the webroot
[15:54] <vock> goran__,  are you sure that the new drivers support your videocard?
[15:55] <goran__> yes.. i have 3d acceleration
[15:55] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second 2server setup?
[15:55] <goran__> it's like 16bit colors
[15:55] <Pirat3> So 'sudo chown adam /var/www'? No trailing slash?
[15:55] <Az> guys, anyone running intrepid on a nforce 780 chipset?
[15:55] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second !! X-server !! setup?
[15:55] <vock> goran__,  yes, but as far as i understand, the nvidia drivers only support a certain list of nvidia video cards, need to make sure the card you have is on the list of the 180 drivers
[15:55] <AlabamaHit> It there something wrong or is it just updates to that kernal. This is the 3rd day in row i have had a update in my update manager for Kernel 2.6.27-11 are those updates or is something wrong??
[15:56] <vock> goran__, what type of video card do you have?
[15:56] <goran__> geforce go 7300
[15:56] <geirha> Pirat3: trailing slash is optional
[15:57] <goran__> vock, so where can i find that list?
[15:57] <bendin> It looks like update to kernel 2.6.27-11 killed my ethernet, so yea, I think something's wrong.
[15:57] <Pirat3> Okay :)
[15:57] <BenSmith> crocd: Will that work?
[15:57] <chi_> goran__,   look here under driver version section if your card is soupported by binary drivers ! !  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[15:57] <Pirat3> What does the little lock above the index.html mean that is in that folder?
[15:57] <Pirat3> I mean like, why is there a lock there when I have full access?
[15:57] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second !! X-server !! setup?
[15:57] <geirha> Pirat3: you probably don't have write access to that file.
[15:58] <Nichisai> Is there a way to install packages for jaunty on hardy?
[15:58] <Pirat3> I'm the only user on this computer. Why is there so many permission problems? :(
[15:58] <dopplerdeffect> Pirat3, check the ownership of the file
[15:58] <genii> Nichisai: A convoluted way. Add the sources only repos of jaunty. Then apt-get the source of whatever package and build it on the hardy box.
[15:58] <vock> goran__, i'm trying to find the right website, are you running hardy or intrepid?
[15:58] <geirha> Pirat3: If you have write access to the directory it is contained in though, you can move it, rename it or delete it ... just not edit it's content.
[15:58] <usser> !permissions
[15:58] <goran__> intrepid
[15:59] <chi_> Pirat3,  you are not the only user ... because USER doesnt mean USER ... there a USERS that is names that are allowed to talk with the operating system and users on a keyboard
[15:59] <weasel_______> hello, i have the following problem: I have an ubuntu server 64bit, everythings works great, then I replaced the mainboard with a new one, and now the network is unreachable, i think i need to rebuild the kernel, but how can i do that ?
[15:59] <initial_B> ryu, =)
[15:59] <genii> Nichisai: You may run into dependency hell this way however, so be forewarned
[15:59] <vock> goran__, check out http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid-updates/nvidia-glx-180
[15:59] <crocd> BenSmith: what the ubuntu server on a usb flashdrive. Yes. I have a Mandriva version installed on a 2gb flash drive. Works like a dream
[15:59] <chi_> Pirat3, so if you change the permission of files in a diretory... that doesnt mean the directory belongs to you now
[16:00] <Pirat3> Okay.
[16:00] <usser> weasel_______, you need to find out your chipset and see if its supported and by what module, kernel rebuilds are mostly a thing of the past
[16:00] <Nichisai> genii, ok, thanks for the heads up
[16:00] <vock> goran__, and see if it's on the list
[16:00] <chi_> goran__,   look here under driver version section if your card is soupported by binary drivers ! !  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[16:00] <Pirat3> How can I make it so that my user 'adam' has complete access?
[16:00] <usser> weasel_______, take a look at what lspci tells you about your network
[16:00] <initial_B> ryu, 안녕하세요
[16:00] <goran__> just a sec
[16:00] <goran__> vock, yep it is supported
[16:00] <weasel_______> ok thx
[16:00] <crocd> BenSmith: if you want to do a install on the usb drive use that website for instructions.
[16:01] <vock> goran__, do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[16:01] <goran__> i thought that this could be compiz-fusion problem but it is still there when i switch to metacity
[16:01] <Veratyr9> Pirat3: that defeats the entire security structure of linux.  its the same reason windows is so insecure
[16:01] <goran__> vock, yes i have
[16:01] <Pirat3> Okay
[16:01] <Pirat3> Well i'll just leave it for now
[16:01] <bendin> looks like others are seeing dead networking with kernel update: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1052932
[16:01] <chi_> Pirat3,  as said by others you should use chown command, but you should use it with some parameters ... how old are you? if you wanna play around with your system you should read up what it is all about... if you dont want to read up you always have to ask questions, which is no fun at all
[16:01] <vock> goran__, and when you run it, it doesn't give an error, and correctly states the driver?
[16:01] <geirha> Pirat3: did you manage to make a .php file with phpinfo(); in it?
[16:02] <goran__> noup.. seems that everything is working fine
[16:02] <koen_> Which cheap, current wireless network card would you guys recommend that works out of the box in ubuntu?
[16:02] <Pirat3> Yeah. But it trys to save the file when I browse to it. And it calls it a PHTML file. O.o
[16:02] <BenSmith> crocd: Makes sense.  Thanks.
[16:02] <dopplerdeffect> koen_, PCMCIA, PCI or Express Card
[16:02] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second !! X-server !! setup?
[16:02] <linduxed> where is the configuration for nm-applet stored?
[16:02] <goran__> vock, i can post you Xorg.0.log if you want
[16:03] <vock> goran__, maybe you're right and it could be compiz, i'm not really that sure, have you tried switching back to metacity to see if there is still the same problem? (metacity --replace), i'm guessing you did seeing how you can see what we're typing
[16:03] <koen_> usb or pci please
[16:03] <chi_> goran__,  what do you want exactly?
[16:03] <crocd> BenSmith: np
[16:03] <vock> goran__, in all honesty i'm not that good, i think you're problem is more than i know how to fix, sorry
[16:03] <Pirat3> Any ideas?
[16:03] <goran__> chi_, i installed new drivers (180.11) and i'm experiencing some colors loss.. i can see stripes on my background and cube reflection ground....
[16:03] <Veratyr9> koen_: asus makes a cheap broadcom based card that i use.  dont know the model offhand though :-/ i guess im really no help am i lol
[16:04] <goran__> ok vock thank you anyways :)
[16:04] <XB23> guys, when i do apt-get autoremove
[16:04] <XB23> it brings up lots of things i need still
[16:04] <XB23> can i clear the cache it uses or something
[16:04] <XB23> so it dosent pick up them things
[16:04] <geirha> Pirat3: Which editor are you using?
[16:04] <S7UMPY> i have a ton of static in my speakers. how do i fix this problem?
[16:04] <killerbun> I want to use the package libgnumail-java does anyone know where it is after apt installing it ?
[16:04] <chi_> goran__,  okay but so why didnt you use the regular drivers?
[16:04] <Pirat3> GEDIT
[16:04] <kiru> does anyone have experience with linuxtv?
[16:04] <Veratyr9> S7UMPY: new speakers
[16:04] <linduxed> where is the configuration for nm-applet stored?
[16:04] <goran__> chi_, what regular drivers?
[16:04] <kiru> am trying to install my usb-dvb-t stick but it doesnt work
[16:04] <chi_> goran__,   look here under driver version section if your card is soupported by binary drivers ! !  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[16:04] <Veratyr9> S7UMPY: nah im just being a smartass
[16:05] <dopplerdeffect> koen_, I've had great luck with any cheap linksys g card
[16:05] <chi_> goran__,  posted this line 3rd time now
[16:05] <S7UMPY> no. i opened up volume control to enable my input on my mic, and then after its been nothing but static
[16:05] <AlabamaHit> It there something wrong or is it just updates to that kernal. This is the 3rd day in row i have had a update in my update manager for Kernel 2.6.27-11 are those updates or is something wrong??
[16:05] <geirha> Pirat3: Haven't used that much, but you should be able to just force the extention to be .php
[16:05] <Pirat3> Which way would you suggest I do it?
[16:05] <goran__> chi_, i've seen that link but there is no information for 180.11 driver... although i think my card is supported because i have 3d acceleration
[16:05] <koen_> thanks!
[16:06] <kiru> if i install dvb-utils, i will get this error: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dvb-utils
[16:06] <kiru> udev active, devices will be created in /dev/.static/dev/
[16:06] <kiru> mkdir: kann Verzeichnis „dvb“ nicht anlegen: Read-only file system
[16:06] <chi_> goran__,  well but the driver is not soupported by ubuntu directly isn't it? also envy should not soupport it
[16:06] <killerbun> I want to use the package libgnumail-java does anyone know where it is after apt installing it ?
[16:07] <goran__> chi_, well that is the problem i dont know if it is supported directly by ubuntu :D
[16:07] <chi_> goran__,  and if you read up nvidia forum you will see, installing anything else could be a very hard problem... so you have to do the work for your own and post in that forum an into other forums... because the problem gets bigger than can be discussed here, i souppose
[16:07] <Pirat3> Hmmm. It seems rebooting it sorted it out. :)
[16:07] <jtaji> killerbun: 'dpkg -L libgnumail-java' will list the files
[16:07] <geirha> Pirat3: Don't have gedit around to test atm. But try creating it from the terminal with this line: echo '<?php phpinfo();?>' >/var/www/test.php
[16:08] <killerbun> jtaji, thanks
[16:08] <chi_> goran__,  you should use the driver mentioned on the link i gave you... and the problems are easier
[16:08] <goran__> that is older driver, i used it and everything was fine.. but this happened when i updated to newer driver
[16:08] <geirha> Pirat3: Then http://localhost/test.php should show you lots of info about php
[16:09] <chi_> goran__,  you said you are useing ubuntu 8.10 => so there you can activate hardware driver ... if you updated from 8.04 you may expact many problems... that may lead you to envy ( to clean up old installations)
[16:10] <chi_> goran__,  yes newer driver => no full use under linux... think about this! and use the oldone
[16:10] <GNUtoo> hello, how do I restore grub from a cdrom ?
[16:10] <Pirat3> Yes it did. I need GD, mbstrings, mysqli and mcrypt. But it only has mbstrings and mysqli. Could you explain how I get them?
[16:10] <GNUtoo> grub-install doesn't work and grub(hdx) doesn
[16:10] <GNUtoo> 't find the grub files
[16:10] <chi_> GNUtoo, you may mount the grub folder and try to activate the grub shell there
[16:11] <eyehatesludge> im a complete linux noob, how do you compile programs from source
[16:11] <GNUtoo> chi_: what packages should I install to get the /boot/grub dir?
[16:11] <goran__> ok chi_ ... i will downgrade driver to older one .. thank you :)
[16:11] <GNUtoo> chi_: because even with chroot It won't install them if it can't find them somewhere
[16:11] <chi_> mount your old root partition '/' and go to boot/grub
[16:11] <Pirat3> Yes it did. I need GD, mbstrings, mysqli and mcrypt. But it only has mbstrings and mysqli. Could you explain how I get them?
[16:12] <GNUtoo> chi_: there is nothing to /boot/grub
[16:12] <chi_> goran__,  read up nvidia forums on linux soupport ....
[16:12] <GNUtoo> chi_: there is nothing to s/\//
[16:12] <GNUtoo> oops
[16:12] <goran__> i have one more question though :) is it possible to convert ntfs partitions to ext3 without data loss?
[16:12] <chi_> GNUtoo, okay... so there is a command to locate bootstage things .. i try to find it
[16:12] <GNUtoo> chi_: the problem is that I didn't install a bootloader because I didn't need one but now I need one
[16:12] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second !! X-server !! setup?
[16:12] <geirha> Pirat3: Search for packages starting with php5 in synaptics or aptitude: aptitude search ^php5-
[16:12] <chi_> GNUtoo,  okay :)
[16:13] <DrZeus> hi all.  Does anybody knows something about audio file managing?
[16:13] <Pirat3> Sorry i'm a bit of a noob in linux. Could you please explain this more?
[16:13] <GNUtoo> chi_: thanks a lot for your help
[16:13] <GNUtoo> DrZeus: what do you mean by audio file managing?
[16:13] <fevel> exactly
[16:13] <rapha> zash: that's a funny question ... i guess i don't want to compile ... about 50 kilograms :-)
[16:13] <DrZeus> i want to take a recording, and split it in different channels.  The recording is just from a digital voice recorder
[16:13] <Wille_eee> see you all
[16:14] <DrZeus> i just didn't knew wehere to ask
[16:14] <fevel> audacious?
[16:14] <DrZeus> i mean, is it possible?
[16:14] <chi_> GNUtoo,  if you are on live CD you may try to install ubuntu WITHOUT formating anything ... that helped in 7.04 ubuntu
[16:14] <S7UMPY> anyone know how to fix the static problems on my speakers
[16:14] <GNUtoo> fevel: you means audacity?
[16:14] <DrZeus> to split a recording from 1 microphone, and split it with differente channels?
[16:14] <fevel> yes
[16:14] <fevel> what did I say?
[16:14] <fevel> did I say audacious?
[16:15] <DrZeus> so, audacious can do that
[16:15] <chi_> GNUtoo, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[16:15] <fevel> no
[16:15] <GNUtoo> chi_: ok i'll look
[16:15] <fevel> audacious doesnt exist
[16:15] <GNUtoo> chi_: thanks a lot
[16:15] <geirha> Pirat3: Ok, go to System -> Administration -> Synaptic. In there search for "php5-" ... Then install the appropriate packages. php5-gd for example, should install the gd module for php.
[16:15] <fevel> audacity can
[16:15] <Pirat3> Okay
[16:15] <chi_> GNUtoo,  no problem
[16:15] <GNUtoo> DrZeus: he said audacious instead of audacity
[16:15] <Pirat3> Thank you!
[16:15] <DrZeus> oh i see
[16:15] <DrZeus> i remember
[16:15] <DrZeus> audacity
[16:15] <mak7751> I am having problems with my brother mfc210-c.  I can't get xsane to recognize my scanner, any ideas on how i can remedy this problem?
[16:16] <DrZeus> but...google shows that audacious does exist http://audacious-media-player.org/
[16:16] <DrZeus> unless is a dead project
[16:16] <Droopsta915> what can I install to make website a bit more clear? When I get on yahoo, all the small pictures are kinda blury.
[16:16] <DrZeus> then, audacity can split a single mic recording in channels
[16:16] <Droopsta915> I just installed ibex, 8.04 was working fine
[16:16] <DrZeus> or at least is an option
[16:16] <wrr> /part #ubuntu
[16:16] <wrr> /l
[16:17] <wrr> hurr
[16:17] <fevel> yes I remember now
[16:17] <fevel> I think audacious is a little more featured
[16:17] <fevel> and comlicated
[16:17] <Ruadh> I am having problems installing updates. The error message I get is: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a'. As I am new to Ubuntu I don't know what to do. Can anyone help?
[16:17] <DrZeus> looks like xmms
[16:17] <fevel> isnt it an alternative sound editor?
[16:18] <mick02> Ruadh, run the command in a terminal
[16:18] <quibbler> Ruadh, open a terminal and type sudo dpkg --configure -a
[16:18] <GNUtoo> chi_: the problem is the following: i'm booting from livecd,I have a usb key with ubuntu on it,there is no grub *at all* on the usb key,how do I install grub on the usb-key? of course grub can't locate grub files...
[16:18] <Ruadh> run what?
[16:18] <Ruadh> ok
[16:18] <GNUtoo> because there is no grub files nor on the cd nor on the usb key
[16:18] <mick02> Ruadh the command dpkg --configure -a
[16:19] <mick02> Ruadh, it's after telling you what you need to do
[16:19] <mneptok> Ruadh: you'll need to preface the command with sudo
[16:19] <DrZeus> thanks people; im leaving now
[16:19] <DrZeus> have a nice day
[16:20] <GNUtoo> chi_: i'll try with the files from my old gentoo install...
[16:20] <chi_> GNUtoo, mom i was afk
[16:21] <Ruadh> mneptok, have done, thanks
[16:21] <GNUtoo> chi_: doesn't work
[16:21] <GNUtoo> chi_: i'll try copying manually the files
[16:21] <chi_> GNUtoo, did you mount the usb-device?
[16:22] <GNUtoo> chi_: of course and also the gentoo drive
[16:22] <GNUtoo> chi_: I have no grub files...
[16:22] <GNUtoo> chi_: /boot/grub is empty
[16:22] <chi_> yeah but you got a grub on liive cd
[16:22] <GNUtoo> chi_: in the usb key and on the cdrom
[16:23] <GNUtoo> chi_: yes i've got grub and grub-install but without the files...
[16:23] <mver> +need help with wireless  connection, please. Network Settings shows the proper wireless connection. Wireless  Networks shows two networks, neither the local one on  my LAN (router) at home. What next?
[16:23] <GNUtoo> chi_: all what I've got in /boot/grub is device.map in both filesystems(cdrom and usb key)
[16:24] <GNUtoo> chi_: and that is because i didn't check the checkbox for installing a bootloader during the install on the usb key
[16:24] <chi_> GNUtoo, go to the link i gave you and search for 'Mine was a slightly different story'
[16:24] <GNUtoo> chi_: ok thanks a lot
[16:25] <walker> hello
[16:25] <walker> what is russian ubuntu cahnnel
[16:25] <walker> ?
[16:25] <a931bw> How to format my flashdrive?
[16:25] <quibbler> walker, !ru
[16:25] <a931bw> usb stic
[16:25] <walker> !ru
[16:25] <a931bw> ?
[16:25] <GNUtoo> chi_: ok i'll do that with the files of  my gentoo install...thanks a lot
[16:26] <chi_> GNUtoo, u can also use grub-install
[16:26] <chi_> GNUtoo,  if it is on the liveCD
[16:26] <GNUtoo> chi_: doesn't work either
[16:26] <a931bw> How to format my usb stick?
[16:26] <GNUtoo> a931bw: use gparted but be carefull to format the right drive
[16:27] <a931bw> gparted?
[16:27] <chi_> GNUtoo, mm what is the problem there?
[16:27] <shear> having problems with virtualbox. when i click inside a window, it pops up telling me that it's going to capture mouse input, which is fine, but then it doesn't capture. I click again, get the same pop up.
[16:28] <chi_> GNUtoo, something like  $grub-install --root-directory=/boot /dev/hda
[16:28] <chi_>   
[16:28] <GNUtoo> chi_: doesn't find the grub file either
[16:29] <ryu> 여기 한국분들 계시나요
[16:29] <quibbler> a931bw, system>administration>partition editor
[16:29] <ikonia> !jp | ryu
[16:29] <a931bw> *lol*
[16:29] <chi_> GNUtoo, well grub-install needs grub files on the USB? i guess thats not the case
[16:29] <ikonia> a931bw: ?
[16:29] <a931bw> Read error)))
[16:29] <Shizuo> I'm here to act wrong
[16:29] <ikonia> a931bw: what ?
[16:30] <ikonia> Shizuo: what's the problem ?
[16:30] <ryu> 으 한국말이 없어
[16:30] <a931bw> gparted checking devices so long O_O
[16:30] <Shizuo> ikonia: No problem
[16:30] <ikonia> !cn | ryu
[16:30] <ryu> 훔
[16:30] <chi_> GNUtoo, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html
[16:30] <zash> ikonia: google translate says korean
[16:30] <Shizuo> ikonia: I might become an unwanted participant
[16:31] <ryu> 한국채널은 없는것인ㄱ
[16:31] <ikonia> Shizuo: please don't - if you wish to cause trouble go elsewhere
[16:31] <ikonia> !kr
[16:31] <ikonia> ahh
[16:31] <ikonia> !kn
[16:31] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:31] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second !! X-server !! setup?
[16:31] <Shizuo> Stop flooding the channel
[16:31] <Shizuo> ikonia: It's stronger than me
[16:31] <ikonia> ryu: one moment, I'll find the channel if you can read this
[16:32] <ryu> 고마워요 ㅎㅎ
[16:32] <Pirat3> Hello, what is the difference between memcached and memcache?
[16:32] <ryu> 채널명이 kr이 아닌가봐요
[16:32] <zash> !ko | ryu
[16:32] <ryu> 아함
[16:32] <ryu> thanks
[16:33] <Pirat3> Hello, what is the difference between memcached and memcache?
[16:33] <ikonia> zash: mega, thank you
[16:33] <zash> Pirat3: memcached is the server (daemon)
[16:33] <Pirat3> How do I install each one?
[16:33] <GNUtoo> chi_: before you pasted the link i did it manually...let's see if it works
[16:33] <Pirat3> I can install memcache via Synaptics
[16:34] <lascar> Greetings everyone!  I've been all over the net trying to get my atheros card up in Intrepid, but to no avail.  Could you help?
[16:34] <chi_> GNUtoo, good luck, i stick some time with my own problems :)
[16:34] <GNUtoo> chi_: what problems do you have?
[16:35] <zash> Pirat3: what do you want to do with it?
[16:35] <Pirat3> I just need to install it
[16:35] <Pirat3> For PHP
[16:35] <Pirat3> I need to install memcached and memcache
[16:35] <chi_> GNUtoo,  i wanna set up a 2nd xserver ... and i dont know if i need root to do so? after the server starts my users connections to it are refused ...
[16:35] <GNUtoo> chi_: doesn't work...I abandon...I'll  reinstall ubuntu on the key
[16:35] <fabio_> what about chrome for ubuntu (.deb) ?
[16:35] <zash> Pirat3: then install php5-memcache
[16:36] <zash> Pirat3: and memcached
[16:36] <chi_> GNUtoo,  make a partition for your home!!!!!!!!1
[16:36] <GNUtoo> chi_: ah did you remove the lock for doing so
[16:36] <GNUtoo> ?
[16:36] <Pirat3> How do I install memcached?
[16:36] <chi_> GNUtoo,  where is the lock?
[16:36] <zash> Pirat3: the package is called "memcached", so apt-get, aptitude, synaptic or whatever you prefere
[16:36] <Pirat3> apt-get install memcache?
[16:36] <Pirat3> Okay :)
[16:37] <zash> Pirat3: no, memcached
[16:37] <GNUtoo> chi_: if I remember well there was a lock that prevented you from runnign 2 X servers but I don't remember where it was
[16:37] <Pirat3> Yeah sorry I meant that.
[16:37] <chi_> GNUtoo,  okay thats a good hint
[16:37] <Pirat3> Then I install memcache using synaptics?
[16:37] <quibbler> lascar, have you tried here: http://sourceforge.net/projects/madwifi/
[16:38] <sampbar> hi all
[16:38] <zash> Pirat3: yes, and "php5-memcache" if you want to use it with php
[16:38] <GNUtoo> chi_: /tmp/.X0.lock
[16:38] <lascar> quibbler: i knew the old site was down, but i'll head to this one.
[16:39] <Patrickzilla> does anyone have the old CanonScan D646U scanner?
[16:39] <chi_> GNUtoo, as i understood it, the lock is there to protect a running xserver!
[16:39] <vxbinaca> Hey whatevfer update just happened for xorg's video rivers, it killed my nvidia card, it's at 640x480 and i can't reconfigure it away
[16:39] <bobbob1016_> I'm not getting any sound.  I've unmuted everything, and aplay -l has my card, and still no sound, any ideas?
[16:40] <vxbinaca> drivers*
[16:40] <Patrickzilla> vxbinaca: try recovery mode and edit your xorg.conf file to not use nVidia's driver, use "vesa" instead, and then reinstall your driver
[16:40] <vxbinaca> i installed the update and it's taken it to 640x480, and when i try to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it, it give up halkf wat through
[16:41] <vxbinaca> alright
[16:41] <Patrickzilla> vxbinaca: do you know how to work with xorg.conf?
[16:41] <vxbinaca> Patrickzilla am i hand editing it or using dpkg?
[16:41] <Murchadh> vxbinaca: See if there is an old xorg.conf in /etc/X11/
[16:41] <vxbinaca> good idea
[16:42] <Patrickzilla> vxbinaca: i meant hand editing
[16:42] <vxbinaca> ok, i'll just replace the old config
[16:42] <vxbinaca> thanks
[16:42] <GNUtoo> chi_: anyway the X server needs to be root for now(unless you use kernel modesetting) so if you run it as user something is setuid
[16:42] <Murchadh> vxbinaca: They usually have a date appended to them. So anytime it worked prior to upgrading.
[16:43] <Patrickzilla> vxbinaca: always works for me, the x starts with "vesa" so i reinstall my driver and that's it (just for your information, my card is ATI not nVidia, but it should work too)
[16:43] <sky_> hi
[16:43] <sky_> i need a player which support subtitles
[16:43] <sampbar> hello sky_
[16:43] <Patrickzilla> hello sky_, try to use VLC
[16:43] <chi_> GNUtoo,  "waiting for X server to begin accepting connections .
[16:43] <chi_> AUDIT: Fri Jan 30 16:16:00 2009: 8033 X: client 1 rejected from local host ( uid=0 gid=0 pid=8032 )
[16:43] <chi_> No protocol specified
[16:43] <chi_> "   this is said
[16:43] <zash> sky_: or mplayer
[16:43] <FloodBot1> chi_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:44] <Pirat3> Are there any SVN's I can use in the terminal?
[16:44] <sky_> ok thank you i heard about Kplayer which is based on Mplayer and support subtitles :)
[16:44] <zash> Pirat3: like .. svn?
[16:44] <rdw200169> Pirat3, you're talking about subversion?
[16:44] <Pirat3> Yeah subversion
[16:44] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: yep, svn! install the package "subversion"
[16:44] <sky_> again thank you :)
[16:45] <lascar> quibbler: should i disable ndiswrapper?
[16:45] <Pirat3> apt-get install subversion ?
[16:45] <zash> Pirat3: yes
[16:45] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: yes
[16:45] <Pirat3> Right
[16:45] <unanxbt> I attached a switch with my dsl modem and now the download speed had decreased from 100KB/sec to 50KB/sec, why this happened and how can I get the previous download speed?
[16:45] <Pirat3> Eight
[16:45] <Pirat3> Right*
[16:45] <Pirat3> Instal.
[16:45] <GNUtoo> chi_: mabe x cookies...I don't know...
[16:45] <lascar> quibbler: remove it from the module file?
[16:45] <Pirat3> How do I use it?
[16:45] <FloodBot1> Pirat3: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:45] <sky_> anyone can me help with installing LAMP ?
[16:46] <chi_> GNUtoo, thx anyway
[16:46] <zash> sky_: apt-get install lamp-server ?
[16:46] <sky_> rlly ?
[16:46] <Pici> !lamp | sky_
[16:46] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: generally is "svn co <your svn directory url>"
[16:46] <thehook> sky_: what kind of lamp server do you want?
[16:46] <Pirat3> What is 'co'?
[16:46] <quibbler> lascar: i have no idea...i use a ethernet connection sorry...ask again and someone will probably help
[16:46] <zash> sky_: okay, there was no "lamp-server" meta package :(
[16:46] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: try "man subversion", or google it :)
[16:46] <sky_> linux+apache+mysql+php
[16:47] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: co = checkout :)
[16:47] <zash> sky_: there is a "task"
[16:47] <carandraug> !grub
[16:47] <Pirat3> Could you give me a full example?
[16:47] <sky_> zash: yeah
[16:47] <zash> Pirat3: svn co http://svn.project.example.org/path/to/something
[16:47] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3:  let me find one, i don't remember exactly
[16:47] <Patrickzilla> ok, that's it
[16:48] <rdw200169> sky_, just run tasksel and pick LAMP Server
[16:48] <Pirat3> sudo /var/www http://svn..... ?
[16:48] <Pirat3> I meant to type svn not sudo.
[16:48] <unanxbt> can anyone help me about that download speed?
[16:48] <KDesk> hi, I want to transfer music in AAC to an ipod, before I had used m4a, but I think AAC may be better. But when I try to transfer them, Amarok says that the media doesn't support the tracks. What can I do?
[16:48] <sky_> rdw200169: ok thank you... :)
[16:48] <thehook> sky_: if you want a lightweight replacement for apache2 you can check out http://insecure.no/2009/01/easy-nginx-php-and-mysql-installer-script/
[16:48] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: no, just "svn co http://svn.yoursvnserverhere.org/path/project"
[16:49] <Patrickzilla> o
[16:49] <Patrickzilla> ok
[16:49] <Pirat3> Where is the checkout then?
[16:49] <zash> Pirat3: current path
[16:49] <sky_> tehook: added to bookmarks..thank you
[16:49] <Pirat3> Im confused?
[16:49] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: you dont need to type the path you want the files to go, you just have to "be" there
[16:49] <awesomejon> hi
[16:49] <sky_> ok bye guys i go to the cinema :)
[16:49] <zash> Pirat3: cd /path/you/want/ ; svn co http://..
[16:50] <Patrickzilla> Pirat3: the "co" comes after the "svn" and before the svn server url
[16:50] <awesomejon> i have an alsa question
[16:50] <Pirat3> Right. If I just type that. Where will it save the files?
[16:50] <zash> Pirat3: type "pwd"
[16:50] <Patrickzilla> in the current path
[16:50] <Patrickzilla> type "pwd" to know where you are
[16:50] <Pirat3> Okay
[16:51] <awesomejon> hey
[16:51] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second !! X-server !! setup?
[16:51] <Pirat3> Thanks guy. I'm learning :)
[16:51] <mmm4m5m> question: how to make /dev/sdc5 read-only? (change permisions, does not help)
[16:51] <horstle> hi
[16:51] <awesomejon> if i use foobar
[16:51] <chi_> mmm4m5m,  maybe use fstab for this
[16:51] <awesomejon> with wine
[16:51] <KRF> !enter awesomejon
[16:51] <KRF> !enter | awesomejon
[16:51] <etech> openoffice 3.0.1 was released
[16:51] <etech> will it be in the backports?
[16:52] <awesomejon> and set foobar to out put to 96khz and 24bit
[16:52] <Patrickzilla> mmm4m5m: use "ro" in the mount options
[16:52] <awesomejon> will it out put at 96khz and 24bit audio in alsa?
[16:53] <Patrickzilla> etech: where? jaunty?
[16:53] <etech> no intrepid
[16:53] <Patrickzilla> awesomejon: i think so
[16:53] <mmm4m5m> Patrickzilla, chi_: to mount it as read only... but still wondering why permissions of /dev/sdc5 does not work.
[16:54] <KRF> mmm4m5m, because thats just the device node, not the file system
[16:54] <KRF> disclaimer: dont touch /dev/ stuff if possible
[16:55] <chi_> mmm4m5m,  fstab  <= ro     => read-only ~ tried it?
[16:55] <Patrickzilla> mmm4m5m: /dev/sdc5 is just a "fake file" that points to the real partition, so, permissions will not work
[16:57] <sky_> hi again...i have problem with subtitles in mplayer
[16:57] <rdw200169> mmm4m5m, notice, how in /dev all the partitions don't have world access
[16:57] <rdw200169> mmm4m5m, only group/user
[16:57] <mmm4m5m> rdw200169: yes
[16:57] <mmm4m5m> gparted for example, does not use file system :)
[16:58] <sky_> Bad coding for subtitles program don read a diacritic
[16:58] <Nuvola> HI
[16:58] <rdw200169> mmm4m5m, remove a user from the group, and they can't do anything w/the partition; on 8.04 this is the 'disk' group
[16:58] <Dvyjones> .webcam
[16:58] <Nuvola> !list
[16:58] <Dvyjones> !webcam
[16:58] <sky_> anyone can me help ? :-/
[16:58] <rdw200169> mmm4m5m, you can do this in the Users & Groups tool; they make it easy by specifying what accesses ea. user has
[16:59] <linduxed> how do i check what groups a certain user belongs to?
[16:59] <Patrickzilla> sky_: as i don't use mplayer i don't know where to configure it, but i will give you an advice, try VLC :)
[16:59] <Patrickzilla> linduxed: cat /etc/group
[16:59] <rdw200169> linduxed, cat /etc/group | grep <username>
[17:00] <mmm4m5m> rdw200169: thank you.
[17:00] <linduxed> thx Patrickzilla and rdw200169
[17:00] <chi_> :( noone can halp with second !! X-server !! setup?
[17:01] <sky_> Patrickzilla: i already fix it...:)...i dont saw there Central Europe encoding...but now i have it :)...thanks i used VLC on windows before :)
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> mmm4m5m is it a windows formatted partition
[17:01] <Pirat3> How does this work? "svn cleanup"?
[17:01] <bmhm> Hi. I want to add a PPA to my pBuilder environment. But editing /etc/pbuilder/apt.config/sources.list didn't help
[17:02] <mhall119> hey guys, anyone here ever make their own USplash theme?
[17:02] <mike12> hey can anyone here help me with a problem with my cell phone by any chance?
[17:03] <slide> Is there anyway to install Ubuntu while in Windows (my CD drive is broken). I have a 32GB empty space in my drive already reserved.
[17:03] <mhall119> mike12: depends on the problem
[17:03] <mhall119> slide: WUBI
[17:03] <slide> How exactly does that work?
[17:03] <atlef>  !wubi | slide
[17:04] <Patrickzilla> slide: can u boot by a usb drive? try to use UNetBootIn
[17:04] <etech> so yes or no?
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> slide since you have the space reserved, wubi isnt what you wantr
[17:04] <mike12> whall119 ok i have a virgin mobile prepaid phone and it wont let me connect to virgin extras or recieve text messages.
[17:04] <etech> openoffice 3.0.1 in intrepid backports?
[17:04] <mhall119> slide: Wubi creates a "virtual disk" file in the Windows file system, and uses the Windows boot loader to load it on startup
[17:04] <slide> Patrickzilla, probably
[17:04] <Dvyjones> Hi. I have a Logitech ClickSmart 310 webcam (yes, I know that's ancient), which should work wit gspci. It doesn't in Ubuntu 8.10 though. I know it worked in ArchLinux (actually, I think I installed qc-usb there). Any ideas how to  make it work?
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> mhall119 and not at all what he needs when he wants to install on a partition
[17:04] <Pirat3> Right. Can anyone here help me create a user and a database in mysqli?
[17:04] <mhall119> mike12: no idea, any reason you're in the Ubuntu support room for that?
[17:04] <bobbob1016_> I'm not getting any sound.  I've unmuted everything, and aplay -l has my card, and still no sound, any ideas?
[17:05] <Patrickzilla> slide: i have to go know, ask for unetbootin" it's a tool that can help you to create a bootable usb drive with ubuntu
[17:05] <mike12> mhall119 no i just thought i had a better chance here than calling the automated number lol
[17:05] <mhall119> Jack_Sparrow: true, I didn't know he wanted to install on a partition
[17:05] <Pirat3> Right. Can anyone here help me create a user and a database in mysql?
[17:05] <Patrickzilla> *know = now
[17:05] <slide> Patrickzilla, thanks
[17:06] <mhall119> Pirat3: you using Ubuntu?
[17:06] <Patrickzilla> you're wellcome
[17:06] <Pirat3> Yes
[17:06] <mhall119> apt-get install mysql-admin
[17:06] <mhall119> is the easiest way
[17:06] <Pirat3> Right
[17:06] <Pirat3> I'll do that.
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> !lamp
[17:06] <genjix> hey
[17:07] <chi_> GNUtoo, xauth has to be used in newer ubuntus
[17:07] <mhall119> I need USplash help, has anyone ever made their own theme?
[17:07] <Murchadh> Pirat3: google amarok mysql ubuntu. The ubuntu forums used to have a great howto covering just that.
[17:07] <dayo_> Pirat3: sudo tasksel lamp
[17:07] <dayo_> Pirat3: sudo tasksel
[17:07] <dayo_> Pirat3: disregard the first option
[17:07] <Pirat3> I have LAMP.
[17:08] <dayo_> oh
[17:08] <Pirat3> I just need a way to make MySQL users and Databases
[17:08] <dayo_> Pirat3: install phpmyadmin, then
[17:08] <ubuntu_> hello everyone. i am new to ubuntu and i want to know if i can be able to make my laptop multi media keys in the top work; i have a gateway m-series
[17:08] <ubuntu_> i am currently on a live session
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[17:08] <Pirat3> I'm installing mysql-admin
[17:08] <dayo_> ok
[17:08] <dayo_> Pirat3: i prefer phpmyadmin, but it's personal choice, so go ahead :-)
[17:08] <mhall119> Pirat3: you can do it graphically from mysql-admin, or enter the mysql prompt and add records to the mysql.users table directly
[17:09] <Pirat3> I'll try it with mysql-admin first :)
[17:09] <mhall119> that's probably be easiest
[17:09] <adam> is there a shell command that will give me information on where a link is pointing?
[17:09] <mhall119> adam: ls -lha
[17:09] <Pirat3> Oh yeah, I was also wondering how do I turn PHP MAGIC QUOTES off?
[17:10] <adam> mhall119: perfect, thanks
[17:10] <mhall119> Pirat3: somewhere in php.ini I would imagine
[17:10] <genii> Pirat3: Usually in your php.ini
[17:10] <Pirat3> Where is that file?
[17:10] <mhall119> /etc/php5/
[17:10] <Pirat3> Dammit. I was close :(
[17:11] <mhall119>  /etc/php5/apache2 for me
[17:11] <genii> Also /etc/php5/cli/php.ini
[17:11] <mhall119> yeah, depending on how you're running php
[17:11] <Pirat3> Does it matter which one?
[17:11] <Pirat3> Or will only one exist?
[17:11] <Pirat3> I have the one in apache
[17:11] <mhall119> the one in apache/ runs the mod_php runtime
[17:12] <mhall119> the one in cli runs the php command line instance
[17:12] <Pirat3> Grr. I edited the file and I try to save it and it gives me more permission errors.
[17:12] <genii> Pirat3: It all depends in which context you want to specify some option
[17:13] <mhall119> sudo gedit /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini
[17:13] <mhall119> you'll need to have root access to change anything under /etc
[17:13] <arvind_khadri> mhall119, use gksu gedit
[17:13] <mhall119> yeah, probably better
[17:13] <arvind_khadri> !gksu > mhall119
[17:14] <mhall119> I know what gksudo is
[17:14] <nexusz99> Hi
[17:14] <genjix> hey whats the best way to update my ubuntu to jaunty? is it ok to just change sources.list from hardy to jaunty?
[17:14] <Pirat3> Right. MySQL-Admind installed. How do I use it? :)
[17:14] <mhall119> no
[17:14] <nexusz99> hacksilo.co.to <- Hackk t
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> !upgrade
[17:14] <genii> mhall119: The prob is using cli sudo with gedit makes it impossible after for regular user to run gedit
[17:14] <nexusz99> hacksilo.co.to <- hack this site please..
[17:15] <mhall119> genjix: typically you'd run update-manager -d
[17:15] <mhall119> genii: really?   I never had a problem with it
[17:16] <KDesk> I want to transfer music in AAC to an ipod, before I had used m4a, but I think AAC may be better. But when I try to transfer them, Amarok says that the media doesn't support the tracks. What can I do?
[17:16] <genjix> ok thank you mhall119
[17:16] <mhall119> np
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !ipod
[17:16] <Pirat3> Right. MySQL-Admind installed. How do I use it? :)
[17:17] <KDesk> Jack_Sparrow: thanks!
[17:17] <genjix> sorry i mean upgrading to jaunty :)
[17:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:17] <GIZMO_THE_GREAT>  lsscsi reports : [2:0:5:0]    scanner Nikon    LS-2000          1.31   but VueScan is only detecting my USB flatbed scanner, not my Nikon scanner. Any ieas?
[17:17] <mhall119> Applications->Programming->MySQL Administrator
[17:17] <genjix> is that possible using update-manager-d?
[17:17] <KDesk> !RockBox
[17:17] <Pirat3> mhall119 is that to me?
[17:17] <mhall119> Pirat3: yes
[17:17] <Abula> wassup ubuntus
[17:17] <Abula> how are we
[17:18] <Manther> ubuntu-ing
[17:18] <mhall119> ubuntastic
[17:18] <Abula> oh lord haha
[17:18] <Pirat3> What do I put in for Server Hostname Username and Password?
[17:19] <T3rmInAt0r> hi guys... I need some help... I want to build deb packages for maemo distro.... does anyone know any good tutorial????
[17:19] <mhall119> Pirat3: is the MySQL database on your localhost?
[17:19] <Pirat3> Yeah
[17:19] <mhall119> server=localhost, user=root, no passwordf
[17:19] <Pirat3> No password ? Not even if I have set a password?
[17:20] <mhall119> if you've set a password for root@localhost, then use that one
[17:20] <Pirat3> Okay
[17:20] <Pirat3> Done :)
[17:20] <Abula> so, odd question, anyone here managed to get cubase, or FL studio, working on ubuntu?
[17:20] <mhall119> but the default install of MySQL doesn't set a password on root@localhost
[17:20] <salmon> noob problem here, so i just had to do a re-install, im running 8.o4 i am having troubles with flash, it seems that like every third video i watch closes firefox. can someone tell me what program i should be using to run flash so this wont happen, someone on here told me before but i don't remember what it is.
[17:20] <Pirat3> I think I set one :)
[17:21] <Pirat3> Well I typed in a password and it worked... so i'm guessing there was a password!
[17:21] <mhall119> Pirat3: Note: mysql's root is not the same as linux's root
[17:21] <mhall119> ok
[17:21] <Pirat3> Yeah I know :)
[17:21] <Abula> i loved ubuntu, but moved back to windows because of not being able to produce music
[17:21] <mhall119> ok, just making sure
[17:22] <salmon> Abula: have you tried ubuntu studio?
[17:22] <Abula> yeah mate
[17:22] <Abula> as good as it is,
[17:22] <Abula> it's just not powerful enough for the kind of music i produce
[17:22] <Abula> and odd gui and stuff :S
[17:22] <Abula> sorry man
[17:22] <Pirat3> Right
[17:22] <Pirat3> How do I make a new database in mysql-admin?
[17:22] <ice_cream> hmm where's the man page for firefox... i want to see where it tries to read some sort of firefoxrc file on startup
[17:22] <dayo_> Abula: ardour?
[17:23] <mhall119> Pirat3: under the Catalog section
[17:23] <Abula> dayo_, rather than using alternatives, id rather get ubuntu running FL studio/cubase
[17:23] <mhall119> they're referred to as "Schemas" now
[17:23] <dayo_> Abula: there's an ubuntu package for FruityLoops?
[17:24] <su4m> is it true that ubuntu will switch to kde because of the license change and kubuntu will disappear?
[17:24] <salmon> ok so who knows the best way to run flash in ubuntu, im having issues with the brouser being unstable, im running flash non-free and libflashsupport, is there somthing better i should be using?
[17:24] <Abula> dayo_ really?
[17:24] <Pirat3> I don't see an option for creating a new database :(
[17:24] <Abula> wow, i had no idea
[17:24] <mhall119> su4m: no
[17:24] <ubuntu_> ok i installed the keytouch; gateway is not listed on the supported keyboard list.
[17:24] <dayo_> Abula: no, i'm asking *you*. i thought u were implying there is an ubuntu package for FL
[17:24] <Abula> oh right
[17:25] <Abula> no theres not
[17:25] <Abula> but like
[17:25] <ice_cream> oh perhaps i dont need that
[17:25] <Abula> i was wondering if anyone had tried wine or something
[17:25] <Pici> !enter | Abula
[17:25] <Abula> oh sorry guys
[17:25] <salmon> FL runs like hell through wine, i had to give up on it
[17:25] <full_HD> im windows vista 7 user :]
[17:25] <ice_cream> is the accepted solution to fix flash sound problems in fx to install "flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound" ?
[17:25] <quibbler> Abula: rosegarden
[17:25] <dayo_> Abula: try VirtualBox: http://www.virtualbox.org
[17:26] <Abula> cheers man, ill give that a go
[17:26] <ryankrizan> What's with all the kernel updates lately?
[17:28] <blakejust> So yesterday I updated Ubuntu and restarted and ubuntu wouldn't boot up, it'd get past the Ubuntu splash screen and then just sit on a black screen with the loading cursor. I thought maybe something was wrong with X so I ctrl-alt-F1 and logged in and restarted X and got the following errors:
[17:28] <blakejust> http://paste.ubuntu.com/111786/
[17:28] <dayo_> ice_cream: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash
[17:29] <ePax> How do i get HP usb wireles printer portfowarder to work whith my ubuntu. Anyone?
[17:29] <|tom|> is there a way to revert away from updates applied in the past day or two?
[17:29] <|tom|> as of last night everything has been breaking... even took a while to get in here
[17:30] <ice_cream> dayo_, i'm not sure what you're suggesting...
[17:30] <Bodsda> blakejust, seems like an error in xorg config regarding your touchpad
[17:30] <kingfishr> why is ubuntu trying to reinstall 2.6.27-11 every day? It's already successully installed.
[17:31] <blakejust> yes
[17:31] <blakejust> bodsda: I figured that, but I don't know how to fix it
[17:31] <dayo_> ice_cream: i thought u needed help installing flash
[17:31] <Bodsda> blakejust, any changes made recently to xorg.conf?
[17:32] <millen> hello people
[17:32] <blakejust> bodsda: not to the touchpad part. Ubuntu updated yesterday, so it might've been changed in that, since that seems to be what caused me not being able to boot up
[17:32] <killerbun> Has anyone played with the package libgnumail-java, im getting "No provider for address: rfc822" exceptions.
[17:33] <blakejust> bodsda: before it was also giving an error about nvidia drivers, but I added some stuff to the xorgconf file and it stopped giving that error
[17:33] <Bodsda> blakejust, if ubuntu made changes it probably made a xorg.conf.back   or similar, check for differences?
[17:33] <blakejust> bodsda, I did, they all have the same thing under the touchpad section
[17:34] <Abula> what animal is the current ubuntu named after? or like, what is it's current name? cause the last one i used was like edgy eft or something. its been a while.
[17:34] <atgarsis> hello
[17:34] <blakejust> bodsda, even xorg.conf.failsafe has the same thing
[17:34] <Bodsda> blakejust, ok back it up, and try a    dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[17:34] <fosco__> Abula, current is Intrepid Ibex
[17:34] <Abula> awesome. what's up next?
[17:34] <chronosza> im going to rip this intel gpu out of this laptop and burn it outside
[17:34] <atgarsis> does anyone here know why movies, which are on a cd/dvd, cannot be played on vlc player, but can be played, when they are moved on the hard disc?
[17:34] <chronosza> incase anyone wants to know.
[17:35] <ikonia> chronosza: what do you need help with ?
[17:35] <blakejust> bodsda, ok I'll try that and come back
[17:35] <dou213> hey guys, i want to restrict on my ssh-server the connection-attempts to 3... how can i do it? in /etc/ssh/sshd_config maybe "MaxAuth 3" ?
[17:35] <chronosza> ikonia:  been here already. i dont think there is a solution. its my rubbish intel graphics card that wont do anything 3d/accelerated without hanging.
[17:35] <fosco__> Abula, next is Jaunty Jackalope
[17:35] <XB23> guys, when i do apt-get autoremove
[17:35] <XB23> it brings up lots of things i need still
[17:35] <XB23> can i clear the cache it uses or something
[17:35] <XB23> so it dosent pick up them things
[17:35] <FloodBot1> XB23: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <dou213> sry, i mean "MaxAuthTries 3"
[17:36] <Claws81> hello, can someone help me set a layer break in k3b?  ive been looking for the menu item to set it, and been searching the forums, but can't find an answer.  Thanks!
[17:37] <chronosza> ikonia:  yet according to X the card is fine and the 3d acceleration is working. so now im going an update in the final hope that it might fix whatever is wrong
[17:37] <ikonia> chronosza: update what ?
[17:37] <chronosza> ikonia: ubuntu - full update.
[17:37] <millen> someone know how i can turn one text file?
[17:37] <ikonia> chronosza: from what to what
[17:37] <chronosza> ikonia: 8.10 - just the current updates since the iso
[17:37] <atgarsis> does anyone here know why movies, which are on a cd/dvd, cannot be played on vlc player, but can be played, when they are moved on the hard disc?
[17:37] <ikonia> millen: turn one text file ?
[17:37] <ikonia> chronosza: what intel card is it ?
[17:37] <chronosza> ikonia: intel x3100
[17:38] <ikonia> chronosza: and what xorg driver are you using ?
[17:38] <millen> ikonia: yes, i want that end lines are first lines, and first lines are end
[17:38] <chronosza> ikonia:  intel
[17:38] <jiffe89> alright, so I'm having a heck of a time trying to get the custom ubuntu image to preseed english in the very first menu
[17:38] <ikonia> chronosza: have you manually set that in xorg ?
[17:38] <jiffe89> I've set every language option I could find and that menu still pops up
[17:38] <chronosza> ikonia: no, using the auto-detected
[17:38] <pike_> atgarsis: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs perhaps
[17:38] <ikonia> chronosza: are you %100 certain it's using the intel driver and not the i810 ?
[17:39] <millen> ikonia: can you help me?
[17:39] <ikonia> chronosza: autodetect can often choose i810
[17:39] <ikonia> millen: I'm not actually sure what your asking to be honest
[17:39] <rodrigo> hola
[17:39] <rodrigo> alguien puede ayudarme?
[17:39] <jiffe89> this is my list of options, anyone know of something I'm missing or doing wrong? http://nsab.us/preseed
[17:39] <chronosza> ikonia: the name is says is "intel"  i assume thats the normal intel one an dno i810?
[17:39] <rodrigo> tengo problemas con la aceleracion 3d y la resolucion
[17:39] <rodrigo> con los drivers de video
[17:40] <ikonia> chronosza: where are you looking that is says "intel"
[17:40] <millen> ikonia: i have one xml, but this xml is turn, i have turn all text, line by line to put it well
[17:40] <ikonia> millen: I'm really sorry but that makes no sense, I'm not sure what your asking
[17:40] <ikonia> millen: "this xml is turn" ?
[17:40] <pike_> !es | rodrigo :-)
[17:40] <skinofstars1> hey guys, i'm having problems booting into my ubuntu intrepid install. it's putting me into low graphics mode. any tips?
[17:41] <ikonia> skinofstars1: what video card do you have ?
[17:41] <skinofstars1> nvidia
[17:41] <ikonia> skinofstars1: exactly what card
[17:41] <rodrigo> sorry my english is baaad
[17:41] <skinofstars1> ikonia: 8500
[17:41] <rodrigo> i have a problems
[17:41] <rodrigo> with my nvidia
[17:41] <ikonia> skinofstars1: I suspect you'll have to enable the nvidia propriaty drivers from system -> administartion -> hardware drivers
[17:41] <skinofstars1> ikonia: this has just happend after the latest updates
[17:42] <c_korn> hello. why does the upload of my wine package fail after successful compilation? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/21807648/upload_853601_log.txt
[17:42] <pike_> rodrigo: what model card?  you see an error?
[17:42] <skinofstars1> ikonia: yeah, it was a working system
[17:42] <rodrigo> geforce 7300 gs
[17:42] <ikonia> skinofstars1: yes, the kernel has been updated, how did you install the "nvidia" drivers in the past ?
[17:42] <skinofstars1> ikonia: just through the normal system>prefences>hardware drivers
[17:42] <ikonia> skinofstars1: check the current status of that menu
[17:43] <chronosza> ikonia:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/111716/
[17:43] <rodrigo> i had erase drivers
[17:43] <skinofstars1> ikonia: has there been changes?
[17:43] <rodrigo> bad english
[17:43] <rodrigo> =(
[17:43] <rodrigo> and reinstall
[17:43] <ikonia> skinofstars1: the kernel has been updated
[17:43] <rodrigo> but don't play games
[17:43] <skinofstars1> ikonia: i know that
[17:43] <ikonia> chronosza: that is the card identifier, you may want to consider hard coding that in your xorg.conf
[17:44] <skinofstars1> ikonia: i tried rolling back to the previous kernel but no joy
[17:44] <rodrigo> no
[17:44] <rodrigo> i don't have rendering
[17:44] <chronosza> ikonia: with a device section?
[17:44] <rodrigo> but i install drivers in console
[17:44] <skinofstars1> ikonia: ok, i'll reboot into ubuntu, but i can't seem to get pidgen to connect to irc at the moment
[17:44] <blu> aiuto risoluzione dello schermo !!!
[17:44] <skinofstars1> ikonia: any tips for that? :)
[17:45] <pike_> rodrigo: did you try sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx?  or the manual install?
[17:45] <rodrigo> yes
[17:45] <rodrigo> i did
[17:45] <blu> chi mi puo' aiutare ?
[17:45] <rodrigo> manual and command
[17:45] <rodrigo> tray again
[17:46] <pike_> rodrigo: sorry I'm going to lunch but i hope somone else here can help
[17:46] <vixey> hi ... does anyone know why video comes up blank (black screen) or crashes on ubuntu?
[17:46] <blu> come configuare X11/xorg.conf ??
[17:46] <vixey> (or something to try, to fix it)
[17:47] <rodrigo> hablan español
[17:47] <quibbler> !es
[17:47] <rodrigo> es que mi ingles está muy oxidado =(
[17:47] <chronosza> u kidding me. thats so cool
[17:47] <chronosza> !gr
[17:47] <chronosza> heh. i like that.
[17:48] <chronosza> ikonia: with a device section - should i specify a driver directly in xorg.conf? i tried that with the intel one and then X wont start at all
[17:48] <Snifff> hii peopel
[17:49] <greenfuji> I have recently setup an ubuntu file server with samba. I have a windows pc with accesses files via the samba and an ubuntu laptop which accesses the files also. When I look in the Workgroup I see a pc name that is not one of my own. I think this could be someone not autherised to be connected. I have MAC filters and a password, what can I do to check?
[17:50] <chronosza> greenfuji: can you account for all your current pcs in the list? nothing missing?
[17:51] <adam> greenfuji: it could be any number of things other than an intruder, an xbox, a wireless zune, a digital photo frame with wifi
[17:51] <vixey> lol I can watch videos using ASCII but not the actual thing
[17:51] <vixey> strange
[17:52] <greenfuji> the only thing new I have is a Logitech 1000i universal remote. It is not setup yet but is second hand and could be it
[17:52] <hellhound_> i am desperately trying to get my new install of 8.10 to boot into X after installing the restricted nvidia driver.  When I reboot after installing the driver it boots me into a command prompt.  If I type startx I get "(EE) No devices found" "Fatal server error: no screens found"  i have put my xorg file at http://pastebin.com/f620c5b4a and by log file at http://pastebin.com/f632b17af    can anyone PLEASE help?
[17:52] <greenfuji> How can I find out what it is?
[17:52] <sockets> which lightweight web-browser do you guys recommend? i've tried epiphany, midori, and konqueror.. (but i want gnome/gtk)
[17:53] <FlyingBishop> I use epiphany, which is gnome.
[17:53] <macondo> I'm I wrong or when I put a SD card with pictures, the folders get automatically copied to ~/Pictures?
[17:54] <FlyingBishop> sockets: What's wrong with the browsers you've tried?
[17:54] <skinofstars1> hi all, having problems with intrepid booting into low graphics mode
[17:54] <zash> sockets: netcat, curl, /l[iy]n(ks|x)2/
[17:54] <Derek__> !rename
[17:54] <sockets> thanks FlyingBishop, i was leaning towards epiphany.. well firefox is killing me with the memory usage, just wanted to explore my options and get some suggestions
[17:54] <chronosza> ironic, im having a problem getting intrepid into high graphics mode :)
[17:54] <jiffe89> is it even possible to preseed the english option in the very beginning install menu ?
[17:54] <Derek__> !xorg.conf
[17:54] <FlyingBishop> sockets: If none of those work for you, I'd say check out dillo. It's less fully featured, but it's still x11 blazing fast.
[17:56] <zanberdo> I'm not sure if someone has already asked about this, but has anyone else run into an issue with apt-get returnning a GPG error verifying public key?  I'm running apt-get update and I get the error that a public key can not be verified.
[17:56] <FlyingBishop> sockets: I ocasionally use dillo when I really need to be fast, and have something that's too much of a pain to use w3m or something likewise
[17:56] <aaasonntag> hi
[17:56] <Endophage> anyone here happen to have set up a tomcat server  before??
[17:56] <dou213> if i want to search for a process to see if it's running: "ps -ax | grep 'process name'" right? or ps axuw ...
[17:56] <macondo> Do pictures get automatically copied to ~/Pictures when you plug in an SD card?
[17:57] <n8tuserf> Endophage-> what is the issue?
[17:57] <greenfuji> adam and chronosza: I have powered off the remote and the new pc on the workgroup is still there. How can I identify what it is?
[17:57] <Endophage> don't have a clue what i'm doing after I get it from synaptic
[17:57] <Endophage> a good tutorial would be enough
[17:57] <n8tuserf> Endophage-> first is tell us what you wanted to to?
[17:58] <chronosza> greenfuji: did you refresh your view?
[17:58] <greenfuji> chronosza: yes
[17:58] <Endophage> just get ti set up and test a few simple sevlet pages
[17:58] <chronosza> greenfuji: also, where are u seeing this on the win pc or the ubuntu one?
[17:59] <Endophage> it's purely an "i'm bored and it would be useful for my uni course to have the extra experience"
[17:59] <chronosza> macondo:  i see nothing about that and plugged in a media card now and its not importing it by itself.
[17:59] <greenfuji> chronosza: on both the ubuntu and windows, both through network, workgroup
[17:59] <Snifff> someone can help me about hosting ?
[17:59] <Snifff> How to disable spamassassin scans for outbound messages?
[17:59] <Snifff> i neednt spamassassin
[18:00] <n8tuserf> Endophage-> tomcat has a home page, if you ever get stuck -- get on undernet.net and join #tomcat for good assist
[18:00] <Snifff> i want to disable it
[18:00] <Endophage> all the tutorials assume you do ti from basics
[18:00] <Endophage> i've grabbed it out of the package manager
[18:00] <skinofstars1> can someone help with ubuntu only using low graphics mode (badly) since kernel update?
[18:00] <n8tuserf> Endophage -> you mentioned gettin bored? try to learn  cocoon2  its another apache supported project.. xml based stuff
[18:00] <Endophage> would be useful to find the info on how to configure it etc.... when you're not installing it manually
[18:00] <chronosza> greenfuji: on any machine, open a terminal or dos and say ping <machinename> and see if it can actually reach it.
[18:01] <Endophage> i'll have a look at cocoon2 but based on what i'm doing atm tomcat is what i'm looking into right now
[18:01] <skinofstars1> has anyone experienced difficulties with nvidia since kernel update?
[18:01] <Endophage> nope
[18:01] <ikonia> Endophage: tomcat docs are on the apache.org site
[18:01] <sigterm> nope
[18:02] <ikonia> skinofstars1: look in the xorg log file to find any possible problems
[18:02] <ikonia> skinofstars1: look at the basics, is the kernel module for the nvidia component still being loaded for example
[18:02] <greenfuji> chronosza: what is the exact syntax I should use for the ping? I get ping: unknown host everest when I type ping everest
[18:02] <jiffe89> does `debconf-get-selections --installer` not work in 8.04 ?
[18:02] <ikonia> greenfuji: then you don't have name resolution working
[18:03] <skinofstars1> ikonia: yes, also checked xorg log but i see no graphics card errors
[18:03] <krishnan> my office uses ubuntu 8.04 for both desktop and server. can anyone suggest a good in house chat tool?
[18:03] <ikonia> skinofstars1: there must be an error/warning for it to drop back to a lower resolution
[18:03] <greenfuji> ikonia: how to set name resolution?
[18:03] <ikonia> krishnan: an irc server, an im service,
[18:03] <chronosza> greenfuji: hmmm. no that means it has not got an ip. its odd. has a friend or someone else connected to your network recently? even if they not there now
[18:04] <greenfuji> chronosza: no
[18:04] <ikonia> chronosza: it doesn't mean it's not got an ip
[18:04] <ikonia> chronosza: it means it is "an unknown host"
[18:04] <chronosza> ikonia: correction i mean he cant resolve it
[18:04] <ikonia> chronosza: exactly what it says in the error, not "no ip"
[18:04] <krishnan> ikonia can you please give more details please
[18:04] <krishnan> ikonia: can you please give more details please
[18:04] <greenfuji> chronosza and ikonia: I pinged a pc name for the windows pc and it came back with the same error
[18:05] <dou213> how can i see my dns-nameservers?
[18:05] <chronosza> greenfuji: i've had that before but it was because the master browser on windows had added that machine while it was on the network and for some reason took forever to refresh and not show it anymore.
[18:05] <Piratenaapje>  Hi, I'm having some troubles installing grub. I just installed windows again, so it loads the windows bootloader again. When I follow the instructions on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows I get : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/111794/
[18:05] <Derek__> <-- Install error power management settings for GNOME not installed correctly
[18:06] <Derek__> !power
[18:06] <Derek__> !power_management
[18:06] <krishnan> ikonia: pls give more detail on irc server and im service
[18:06] <greenfuji> chronosza: not sure if that is the case here as the pc appeared and I thought whats this, it then no longered appeared and has since come back. This is after multiple refreshes and reboots of both pc of mine.
[18:06] <skinofstars1> ikonia: only error is that it can't find cyrillic font, and i don't think that's it
[18:07] <Derek__> !gnome
[18:07] <wolter> hi, how can i fix my nautilus default window size? its always the smallest possible..
[18:07] <waltons_pacman> have a massive problem:
[18:07] <chronosza> greenfuji: could very well be someone on your wifi if you have wifi. but i wouldnt panic about that immediately.
[18:07] <dou213> how can i see my dns-nameservers?
[18:07] <chronosza> ikonia: um i modified xorg.conf and set intel as the driver and X wont even start.
[18:07] <dou213> !nameserver | dou213
[18:07] <Derek__> !display
[18:07] <krishnan> my office uses ubuntu 8.04 for both desktop and server. can anyone suggest a good in house chat tool?
[18:07] <ikonia> chronosza: noy good
[18:08] <ikonia> not
[18:08] <greenfuji> chronosza: The file server is accessed by both other pcs via wifi
[18:08] <gregcha117> i had sound, and then for no apparent reason now under my volume controls ive got no output device
[18:08] <chronosza> greenfuji: and your wifi is secured with a key?
[18:08] <kavurt> Piratenaapje: the partition number you typed in might be wrong
[18:08] <skinofstars1> Derek_: is the display help for me? because it doesn't help
[18:08] <greenfuji> yep, wifi is secured by wpa-psk and I have mac filtering on the router.
[18:09] <chronosza> hmmmm
[18:09] <greenfuji> chronosza: the workgroup in samba is workgroup and this pc appears in their
[18:09] <chronosza> greenfuji: dumb Q but no virtual pc's installed anywhere? :)
[18:09] <dayo_> .
[18:10] <quibbler> !pidgin | krishnan
[18:10] <greenfuji> chronosza: good question. I have been playing with virtualbox with another windows install.
[18:10] <chronosza> ikonia: so in other words i should just give it up.
[18:10] <gregcha117> my sound device isnt appearing under my volume controls, how can I fix this?
[18:10] <greenfuji> chronosza: I'll have a look what that pc is called
[18:10] <chronosza> greenfuji: on the box with virtualbox is virtualbox running? even with the console closed the virtualbox process could be up and so would the windows pc.
[18:11] <ikonia> chronosza: I didn't say hat
[18:11] <ikonia> that
[18:11] <kingfishr> why is intrepid trying to reinstall the 2.6.27-11 kernel every time i reboot it? It's already successfully installed (and running).
[18:11] <krishnan> quibbler: we would like to use our own chat, which is only for internal use and not for external and employees cant use it for external purpose. so we cant use pidgin
[18:11] <greenfuji> chronosza: yes virtualbox is running but the virtual pc is not started
[18:11] <Piratenaapje> kavurt: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/111803/
[18:11] <chronosza> ikonia:  i didnt say u did, im saying i should. coffee finished. headache at full power.
[18:11] <Piratenaapje> don't see what's wrong with ti
[18:11] <chronosza> greenfuji: hmmmm. power it up and check the name
[18:12] <bobbob1016> I'm not getting audio.  "aplay -l" lists my card, but no audio, any ideas?
[18:12] <ikonia> chronosza: I am just eating, so can't help yet
[18:12] <chronosza> greenfuji: as i said sometimes the browser service on windows (if its your master browser) takes very long to refresh.
[18:12] <gregcha117> bobbob1016: im getting the same issue, although on login it plays the sound
[18:12] <racecar56> AGH HELP QUICK
[18:12] <chronosza> ikonia: not a problem. much appreciated.
[18:12] <racecar56> MY DESKTOP IS WHIET!
[18:12] <racecar56> *white
[18:12] <racecar56> everything is white
[18:12] <FloodBot1> racecar56: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:13] <racecar56> i cant see my taskbar
[18:13] <bobbob1016> racecar56, Usually a compiz/video-card driver issue
[18:13] <racecar56> i have to guess where icons are
[18:13] <racecar56> ok
[18:13] <racecar56> how do i fix?
[18:13] <racecar56> i have a terminal open
[18:13] <racecar56>  reinstall my video drivers?
[18:13] <chronosza> ermmm
[18:13] <bobbob1016> racecar56, Did you get floodbot's message?  Don't use enter every two words
[18:14] <mneptok> racecar56: reboot. press <esc> to get the GRUB menu. choose recovery mode. choose "xfix" from the menu.
[18:14] <racecar56> ok
[18:14] <kavurt> Piratenaapje: You want to recover the grub on sda5, you should type root (hd0,4)
[18:14] <greenfuji> chronosza: YOU ARE A CHAMP! Its the virtual pc. I would never have thought of that.
[18:15] <chronosza> greenfuji:  :-) the other windows pc is prob the master browser for your workgroup and see saw the VPC and added it to the list and just has not refreshed the master browser list yet.
[18:15] <gregcha117> my sound device shows up in alsamixer in terminal but not on the gnome volume controls and im not getting any audio
[18:16] <Piratenaapje> kavurt: Already tried that, it gives me: "Cannot mount partition" error
[18:16] <greenfuji> chronosza: I'll change the virtual pc name so its easier to identify from now on. I was so worried some muppet had broken through my security to get free wireless or something.
[18:17] <[kev]> anyone know of a way that I can remove flash plugins from firefox? (outside of simply disableing them)
[18:17] <krishnan> can anyone help me out?
[18:17] <jonaskoelker> Any experts on email in here?
[18:17] <ikonia> [kev]: remove the flashplugin-nonfree package
[18:17] <skinofstars1> checked xorg.0.log for errors while booting, can't find anything, where else should i look?
[18:17] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: just ask the question
[18:17] <ikonia> skinofstars1: the answer will be in the log file
[18:17] <ikonia> skinofstars1: there may not be an error, just an explination of why it's setting that resolution
[18:19] <jonaskoelker> I have a mail that contains "<html=3E\n<head=3E\n" (\n means newline, no other escape should be interpreted by your eyes).  The sender claims this is valid; I don't think it is... how do I determine it?
[18:19] <quibbler> krishnan: have a look here: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Internal-Chat-Server-Download-42147.html
[18:19] <jonaskoelker> the Content-Type is text/html, and Content-Transfer-Encoding: Quoted-Printable
[18:19] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: what do you mean valid ?
[18:19] <racecar56> thanks it works now
[18:19] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: how is that anything to do with email ?
[18:19] <racecar56> i mean like thanks 1000000000000000000000000 times
[18:19] <racecar56> :D
[18:19] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: it's in a mail...
[18:19] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: so ?
[18:19] <racecar56> my x works again
[18:20] <racecar56> thanks mneptok for the tip
[18:20] <racecar56> goodbye everybody
[18:20] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: so... I'd like to know if my mail client is buggy for not handling it properly
[18:20] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: ok - so it's nothing to do with email, it's a specific question about a specific mail client
[18:20] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: or whether the sender has an incorrectly configured server
[18:20] <skinofstars1> ikonia: do you mind if i pastebin, i can't see what's wrong?
[18:20] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: the server has nothing to do with it
[18:21] <ikonia> skinofstars1: do what you want
[18:21] <jonaskoelker> okay; rephrase: I want to know if the error is on my hands or the sender's
[18:21] <wolter> how do i enable the extra plugins in compiz?
[18:22] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: well, as I said it's a specific question about a specific mail client, which you've not even told us which one you're using
[18:22] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: what I want to know is whether the most recent RFCs says that what the sender's doing is okay
[18:22] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: that's not a question about any particular mail client
[18:22] <jonaskoelker> but I use mutt
[18:22] <jonaskoelker> and evolution
[18:23] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: then it's nothing to do with ubuntu - it's a RFC question, look up the RFC's
[18:23] <jonaskoelker> although evolution only for testing
[18:23] <jonaskoelker> okay
[18:23] <quibbler> wolter: probably in CompizConfig Settings Manager
[18:23] <Guest54148> new to ubuntu loaded open office and then kword they load ok but when symbols have no names
[18:23] <chronosza> greenfuji: no problem :)
[18:23] <jonaskoelker> then I have a related ubuntu question: evolution on ubuntu--how does it handle broken html email?
[18:23] <wolter> quibbler, well yeah, i found a plugin list, but i don't find my bloom effect i used to have in hardy...
[18:24] <jonaskoelker> does it try to be clever and figure out that the sender meant to send html mail  but in fact sent "<html>" as part of a text mail?
[18:24] <skinofstars1> problems with booting to low graphics mode, xorg.0.log: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111809
[18:24] <turkjeus> Hi guys
[18:24] <Endophage> ok got tomcat up and running, or at least not erroring, but where can I set the defualt root directory for the server
[18:24] <turkjeus> I am just installing ubuntu 8.10 server and it output this please insert the disc labeled : 'Ubuntu-Server 8.10 _ Intrepid Ibex _ - Release i386 (20081028.1)' in the drive '/cdrom/' and press enter
[18:24] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: I beleive it responds to a doc type in the header, but I'm not %100
[18:24] <turkjeus> the cdrom i on the drive
[18:25] <ikonia> Endophage: in the config file
[18:25] <Endophage> i'm not completely retarded ikonia, but WHICH config file
[18:25] <greenfuji> chronosza: you are right about the refresh taking some time. I renamed the virtual pc and the old name still appears in the list of pcs in the workgroup, plus the new name. Linux is such an interesting adventure, you learn so much each day.
[18:25] <quibbler> wolter: maybe try in #compiz-fusion
[18:25] <ikonia> Endophage: look at sites-enabled and site-available in /var/www
[18:25] <turkjeus> how many cds are there?
[18:25] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: as in "<!DOCTYPE html [...]"???
[18:25] <jonaskoelker> O_o
[18:25] <turkjeus> I only download 1
[18:25] <mneptok> turkjeus: is this when running updates?
[18:25] <GIZMO_THE_GREAT> any1 know how to diagnose no sound? When I run the Live CD of Ubuntu 8.10 I have sound, but when installed properly, no sound
[18:25] <jonaskoelker> ikonia: or you mean Content-Type?
[18:25] <[kev]> how do I remove plugins from firefox?
[18:25] <dalekcaan> I have an ubuntu related question: when my laptop gets fully charged and the ac is still plugged in, it starts discharging all the way to zero.  If i unplug the ac and replug it, it still keeps discharging.  The only way to get out of it is to fully restart my computer...I tried to google but seems like no one else has this problem
[18:25] <ikonia> Endophage: I didn't say you where retarded, but if you have set up the webserver you must have been in the apache config file
[18:25] <turkjeus> mneptok, I am installing right now
[18:26] <Endophage> would help if I had a var/www
[18:26] <turkjeus> mneptok, I was in thre retrieving package step
[18:26] <ikonia> jonaskoelker: content type I beleieve, but I'm not %100
[18:26] <mneptok> turkjeus: sounds like you have a bad burn. use the untility to check the disc from the first install screen.
[18:26] <ikonia> Endophage: you've not got a /var/www
[18:26] <Endophage> nope
[18:26] <ikonia> Endophage: also look in /etc/apache2
[18:26] <kati> I'm new to ubuntu and trying to run the program R. I downloaded the program(or so I thought) but when I type "add R" into the terminal window, it doesn't recognize the command.  Is there a different command for "add"?
[18:26] <Guest54148> :P can any one help with a simple problem
[18:27] <racerx> how come when I try to save a file and decided to create a directory for it, how come the filemanager doesn't move you inside the folder after creating it. It used to do that for me.
[18:27] <Endophage> dont have an etc/apache2 either
[18:27] <ikonia> kati: What are you talking about the probram "r" and "add"
[18:27] <ikonia> kati: what guide are you following
[18:27] <ikonia> Endophage: /etc/apache
[18:27] <ikonia> Endophage: /etc/apache2
[18:27] <ikonia> Endophage: not etc/apache2
[18:27] <Endophage> not those either
[18:27] <mneptok> Endophage: how did you install apache?
[18:27] <Endophage> tomcat doesnt install to an apache folder just because it's made by that team
[18:27] <dalekcaan> kati: what is the "add R" for
[18:27] <Endophage> it installs to etc/tomcat6
[18:28] <ikonia> Endophage: you need a webserver to link it into
[18:28] <ikonia> Endophage: so yes - it is relevant
[18:28] <Endophage> tomcat is a server isnt it
[18:28] <ikonia> Endophage: it's a java server
[18:28] <mneptok> Endophage: it's an application server
[18:28] <Endophage> and thats what i want
[18:28] <ikonia> Endophage: did you read the docs on apache.org
[18:28] <mneptok> Endophage: it does not serve http requests
[18:28] <Endophage> i did read them
[18:28] <racerx> how come when I try to save a file and decided to create a directory for it, how come the filemanager doesn't move you inside the folder after creating it. It used to do that for me.
[18:28] <Endophage> and they don't say a word about needing apache
[18:28] <kati> well the program r is a statistical modeling program i think i dont really know i just need to use it for an assignment, and I'm use to using the redhat system where you just type "add" to make the program accessible to the user at that time
[18:29] <abraxis_> what's the deal with all the security updates lately?
[18:29] <Pici> kati: Are you running Redhat or Ubuntu?
[18:29] <dalekcaan> kati: can you just type "R"
[18:29] <ikonia> kati: "add" is not red hat command
[18:29] <dalekcaan> cuz thats how i start it
[18:29] <mneptok> Endophage: because Tomcat doesn;t need apache. it needs a webserver of some kind to be useful.
[18:29] <node357> /path/to/R or ./R
[18:29] <kapipi> Can anyone help me find a ppa that has some never versions of libvirt and virt-manager?
[18:29] <mneptok> Endophage: 9 times out of 10 that webserver is Apache
[18:29] <greenfuji> chronosza: thanks again. need to reboot after updates.
[18:29] <Endophage> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/appdev/installation.html not mentioned here
[18:29] <dalekcaan> does anyone the answer to my question
[18:30] <kati> ohh I just had to type R thanks so much
[18:30] <dalekcaan> np
[18:30] <mneptok> Endophage: suit yourself, then.
[18:30] <mneptok> Endophage: good luck getting a web application running without a web server
[18:30] <chucknorris> ok so some media player is playing "GNR - Estranged" but CTRL+Tab is not showing any app which is doing that. How do I get that app?
[18:31] <sockets> would i need to know graphic design inorder to create a theme?.. nothing major, i want my windows/menubar ect to look like : http://omploader.org/vMTU4MQ .. or is there some place i can download stuff like that? or maybe a place where i can download more window borders or something?
[18:31] <centaur5> Does Intrepid's new version of Xorg not accept the usual syntax in xorg.conf to adjust the screen resolution?
[18:31] <ikonia> sockets: gnome-look.org
[18:31] <sockets> thanks ikonia
[18:31] <ikonia> centaur5: should accept standard syntax
[18:31] <Guest54148> my question is on open office and Kword the icons have no words next to them, eg copy icon is there but no description
[18:31] <turkjeus> mneptok, the cd integrity is ok
[18:32] <dalekcaan> I have an ubuntu related question: when my laptop gets fully charged and the ac is still plugged in, it starts discharging all the way to zero.  If i unplug the ac and replug it, it still keeps discharging.  The only way to get out of it is to fully restart my computer...I tried to google but seems like no one else has this problem
[18:32] <CarlFK> how does apt-get know what arch to use? (i386 vs x64)
[18:32] <chucknorris> oh it's in the application bar - Rhythmbox
[18:32] <ikonia> CarlFK: it selects the arch your running
[18:32] <mneptok> turkjeus: then try another CD drive. it sounds like the installer isn't reading the media correctly
[18:32] <Frederick> folks how do i install the last google earth?
[18:32] <ikonia> Frederick: there are documents on google's download site
[18:32] <centaur5> ikonia: Well that's not good, I guess this TNT2 card is going to be more trouble than I thought.
[18:32] <Pici> CarlFK: Each package says what arches it supports
[18:33] <mneptok> people still use Google Earth? :)
[18:33] <Frederick> ikonia: isnt there a package?
[18:33] <lascar> !madwifi
[18:33] <Pici> !googlearth | Frederick
[18:33] <ikonia> Frederick: yup
[18:33] <Pici> !googleearth | Frederick
[18:33] <CarlFK> ikonia: but how does it know what I am running?
[18:33] <ikonia> Frederick: googleearth-package
[18:33] <Pici> ikonia: only in Medibuntu
[18:33] <ikonia> CarlFK: it "tells" it's self when you install it
[18:33] <ikonia> Pici: are you sure, I see it in 8.10
[18:34] <ikonia> !info googleearth-package
[18:34] <Pkerown> l
[18:34] <Pkerown> ll
[18:34] <Pkerown> l
[18:34] <mneptok> !info googleearth-package
[18:34] <Pkerown> l
[18:34] <FloodBot1> Pkerown: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:34] <ikonia> Pkerown: stop please
[18:34] <su4m> is it true that ubuntu will switch to kde because of the license change and kubuntu will disappear?
[18:34] <CarlFK> ikonia: is there a config file?
[18:34] <dayo_> mneptok: what's the alternative?
[18:34] <Pici> ikonia: I appear to be mistaken
[18:34] <ikonia> CarlFK: no, it's not just a config file, the kernel is a running version
[18:34] <ikonia> Pici: I am all the time
[18:34] <mneptok> dayo_: maps.google.com
[18:34] <dayo_> mneptok: ahh, yes
[18:34] <Pici> CarlFK: Check out the apt-get source if you're really curious.
[18:34] <lascar> sorry, it was in intrepid's backports, not restricted
[18:35] <Frederick> how do I use google earth package?
[18:35] <ikonia> Frederick: you install it the same as any other package
[18:36] <Frederick> ikonia: found it
[18:37] <Guest54148> help needed
[18:37] <Melan> hey all, someone can help an absolut beginer in Linux/Ubuntu
[18:37] <ikonia> Melan: if you ask a question
[18:37] <Melan> ?
[18:37] <uman> Hey everyone. Anyone here know how to move Docky (gnome do)? I would prefer it to be on top or a little bit higher than where it is by default
[18:38] <Melan> well i just installed ubuntu now with the windows setup. Do i have to find now all drivers that i need for linux or what do i have to do first?
[18:38] <su4m> Melan: of course i can
[18:38] <su4m> Melan: just ask
[18:38] <Guest54148> my question is that on open office the icons dont have words
[18:38] <SQLDarkly> On Intrepid Server I already have a LAMP stack with php5 I also need to add php4 support but the php4 package has no install source? Should I just compile from source or is there a Package available?
[18:38] <theshadow> Alright, so I have dual monitors with two separate x sessions I want to run firefox on both sessions but no matter what I do. (-no-remote or --display) seem to cause the dialog box to pop up that its already running. Can any one help?
[18:38] <skinofstars1> would someone mind looking at my xorg log to see why i'm having problems booting into normal graphics mode? http://paste.ubuntu.com/111809
[18:39] <Guest54148> su4m can i ask you a question
[18:39] <su4m> Melan: nothing, everything's installed
[18:39] <su4m> is it true that ubuntu will switch to kde because of the license change and kubuntu will disappear?
[18:39] <turkjeus> Installing get hang when configure apt source and then ask for the cd
[18:39] <su4m> Guest54148: yes, you may
[18:39] <Melan> but i need the drivers?
[18:40] <ikonia> Melan: you shouldnt
[18:40] <ziggles> hi guys, any suggestion on an IRC client that isnt pidgin/xchat? :)
[18:40] <petafile> I'm trying to rip a single scene off of a dvd, what's the best tool to use for this?  I looked at k9copy, but it looked like it was going to rip the whole title, and I just want 1 chapter
[18:40] <su4m> Melan: not necessarily, they should be automatically installed. what video card?
[18:41] <petafile> ziggles, I'm using lostirc atm, it seems ok
[18:41] <Enselic> ziggles: Konversation is my favourite
[18:41] <mneptok> ziggles: irssi
[18:41] <Jkelshac> is there an app to split  a long audio book into bits?
[18:41] <Guest54148> new to ubuntu, loaded open office the icons are there with out words eg copy icon has no words
[18:41] <[kev]> can someone help me to get my flash working on firefox ?
[18:41] <su4m> ziggles: kvirc
[18:41] <Enselic> Jkelshac: Audacity is a good audio editor
[18:41] <Melan> Asus En7600GS with nvidia driver
[18:41] <Enselic> Jkelshac: there's CLI tools too such as mencoder and ffmpeg
[18:41] <ziggles> ALL: thanks! :)
[18:41] <Jkelshac> but i would have to split it myself Enselic
[18:42] <Chaukar> .
[18:42] <SQLDarkly> [kev] do about:plugins and see if it is even registered with FF
[18:42] <gilbeRt_fox> [kev] what error do you get?
[18:42] <su4m> is it true that ubuntu will switch to kde because of the license change and kubuntu will disappear?
[18:42] <ikonia> skinofstars1: looks like your monitor is giving EDID information out that' a bit off
[18:42] <quibbler> Guest54148: just move you mouse over the ions
[18:42] <ikonia> su4m: no
[18:42] <ziggles> if we switch to kde, i will shoot myself in the face
[18:42] <ziggles> or just stay with gnome
[18:43] <Frederick> folks anyone else experiencing fonts too small in google earth?
[18:43] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, application/x-shockwave-flash 	Shockwave Flash 	swf 	Yes
[18:43] <[kev]> application/futuresplash 	FutureSplash Player 	spl 	Yes
[18:43] <SQLDarkly> lol ziggles yes just sticking with gnome would be a better alternative to a gunshot to the face
[18:43] <Melan> ok thx its great that i dont have to install them, has the ubuntu setup already installed them?    And how can i connect to the internet with Fritz USB stick Wlan?
[18:43] <skinofstars1> ikonia: just disabled the nvidia driver and i'm booting in fine. what's my next step?
[18:43] <ziggles> SQLDarkly: true.  that's a permanent solution to a temporary problem lol
[18:43] <Guest54148> can any one help
[18:43] <su4m> ikonia: any relevant link?
[18:43] <ikonia> skinofstars1: personally I'd try to use the nv driver to see what that things
[18:44] <rsc-> i'd be shot in the face to ask this here, but what's a good distro that'll have KDE4.2 soon?
[18:44] <ikonia> su4m: no - where did you get told it was switching
[18:44] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: Is flash playing at all or are you getting the infamous no sound?
[18:44] <su4m> ikonia, ziggles: but then why do they say so?
[18:44] <ikonia> su4m: who is "they"
[18:44] <skinofstars1> ikonia: nv? not the 177 that is used as default?
[18:44] <ikonia> skinofstars1: no
[18:44] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, the object is completely hidden from any pages that contain flash elements
[18:44] <ikonia> skinofstars1: you can try it with tthe 177 if you want
[18:44] <su4m> ikonia: a lot of guys on the forums
[18:45] <ikonia> su4m: because they don't know what they are saying
[18:45] <ziggles> su4m: i cannot help you man, ur the first ive heard of that though
[18:45] <SQLDarkly> brb bathroom time ;)
[18:45] <odin654> hi, how can i find out which version of a specific software (namely subversion) a specific version of ubuntu supports (the lastest version of the software that can be downloaded)
[18:45] <ikonia> su4m: unless you can quote something official - it's jus some guys talking
[18:45] <webble> im new to ubuntu. one of my comp is using that now, and i cant seem to connect it to my wireless
[18:45] <turkjeus> mneptok, try with a different one and still the same
[18:45] <skinofstars1> ikonia: 177 is what i've been using without issue till today. where can i get nv, is it in any repos?
[18:45] <ziggles> SQLDarkly: LoL, thanks for update :)
[18:45] <ikonia> skinofstars1: nv is built into the xorg server
[18:45] <webble> how do i fix that
[18:45] <turkjeus> May someone help me, Intrepid ask for cd when Configuring APT sources...
[18:45] <turkjeus> during install
[18:45] <su4m> ikonia: but what makes you think this is improbable?
[18:46] <ikonia> su4m: because it's not
[18:46] <Melan> how can i use my Fritz Wlan usb stick under ubuntu?
[18:46] <ikonia> su4m: what makes you think it is probable ?
[18:46] <ikonia> turkjeus: go into system -> administration -> software sources and uncheck the cd box
[18:46] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: sudo apt-get remove flashplugin-nonfree
[18:46] <turkjeus> ikonia, I am doing a fresh install
[18:46] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[18:46] <turkjeus> ikonia, no system install yet
[18:46] <ikonia> turkjeus: then you need a cd
[18:47] <turkjeus> the cd is in there
[18:47] <ikonia> turkjeus: looks like it doesn't want to read it
[18:47] <turkjeus> I chech the integrity and it was fine
[18:47] <turkjeus> already try with 2 cdrom drives
[18:47] <turkjeus> I am install server version
[18:47] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: I would check first if the adobe provided player will work first
[18:47] <chronosza> ikonia:  cant remember what u answered, are there other drivers for intel except "intel" ?
[18:47] <ikonia> chronosza: intel and i810
[18:48] <turkjeus> ikonia, so I get out of ideas
[18:48] <Melan> how can i use my Fritz Wlan usb stick under ubuntu?
[18:48] <su4m> ikonia: i don't know, i don't have an opinion. i don't like kde, especially kde 4, but i want to know something certain, something that would sound reassuring to me and i don't find any promises. the main reason i'm in doubt is the lgpl switch
[18:48] <chronosza> ikonia: ok ill try force i810 and see
[18:48] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, i've alredy tried installing and removing nonfree... nothign works
[18:48] <ikonia> su4m: they are not switching - they have not said anything about it - so take that as fact
[18:48] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, ideally i'd like to remove EVERYTHING and start from scratch
[18:49] <ikonia> chronosza: i810 is normally feature lagging behind intel
[18:49] <linduxed> ?where does nm-applet store its configuration
[18:49] <grtemp> I downloaded 8.10 live netinstall with unetbootin and told it to put it on my flash drive but a video on youtube said that I had to dl the iso. I got ubuntu on the flash drive but when I tried to boot it it said it was not bootable. Could it be because I didnt dl the iso or am I just missing a few files that would be needed to boot?
[18:49] <ikonia> [kev]: re-install to be sure then
[18:49] <chronosza> ikonia: yeah but the intel one has no features  :) at least not 3D ones.
[18:49] <chronosza> ikonia: when it comes to my card.
[18:49] <linduxed> i need to extract some info about a wifi connection
[18:49] <kol> Bonsoir / Hello
[18:49] <turkjeus> ikonia, don't know what the hell is happening
[18:49] <deletet> hy  i have a ask can somone help me ?
[18:49] <ikonia> chronosza: the intel one does - so if you are having problems with the intel one and no 3d , I wouldn't expect it to work with i810
[18:50] <su4m> ikonia: i'm afraid they'll surprise us, like they did with the mobile version
[18:50] <linduxed> deletet: just ask
[18:50] <su4m> ikonia: it wouldn't be the first time
[18:50] <ikonia> su4m: that was no surprise
[18:50] <deletet> i buy a ibm  x330 and in back it has a  PCI REMOTE SUPERVISOR ADAPTER
[18:50] <kol> I have a ridiculous problem...So ridiculous i can't find the solution Oo
[18:50] <kol> I lost my menu
[18:50] <deletet> but i have no idea how to make it work
[18:50] <chronosza> ikonia: what are the chances my resolution is causing problems with 3d acceleration?
[18:50] <kol> and i can't find it :|
[18:50] <cwillu> kol, right click, 'add to panel'
[18:50] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: are you runnign 32 or 64 bit version?
[18:50] <\kira> which format does the du command use?
[18:50] <fosco__> kol, only menu or the hole panel?
[18:50] <deletet> i most tell im new with linux
[18:50] <ikonia> \kira: what do you mean what format
[18:51] <ikonia> chronosza: I don't see why it would,
[18:51] <sarunas_> hi all
[18:51] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, 32
[18:51] <\kira> ikonia: it reports at the end 8153028
[18:51] <\kira> ikonia: whats that in gigs?
[18:51] <Melan> how can i use my Fritz Wlan usb stick under ubuntu?
[18:51] <ikonia> \kira: du -h
[18:51] <kol> when i right click i see the menu, but i'd like to see it at the top and bottom on my screen as default
[18:51] <chronosza> ikonia: im all out of ideas.
[18:51] <ikonia> \kira: try that to make t easier
[18:51] <\kira> ikonia: okay, thanks
[18:51] <turkjeus> May someone help me, Intrepid ask for cd when Configuring APT sources...
[18:51] <ikonia> chronosza: I've not got that card, but people have reported it working fine
[18:52] <ikonia> turkjeus: I would try an ubuntu desktop install for interests sake
[18:52] <fosco__> kol, right clin on the panel - add - gnome menu
[18:52] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: try sudo apt-get install nspluginwrapper
[18:53] <kol> fosco__ I have xfce, and i don't speak english really well
[18:53] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, k installed, now what?
[18:53] <fosco__> kol, search for something similar
[18:53] <kol> actually, the menu with 'Applications, Mozilla Icon, Quit, and Places' had disappeared
[18:53] <kol> has*
[18:53] <fosco__> right clic on the panel and add - main menu or so
[18:54] <chronosza> ikonia: panel is not identified correctly either i see. resolution is supported, but it doesnt know its a laptop display. i doubt that would affect it though
[18:54] <kol> what is exactly the panel ? because i think i do not understand it really well
[18:54] <ikonia> chronosza: out of interest look at what the monitors EDID information is
[18:54] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: ls -la /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/ see if you see your flash plugin
[18:55] <atgarsis> join #xubuntu
[18:55] <shiraj> hey guys
[18:55] <chronosza> ikonia: edid?
[18:55] <fosco__> kol, the panel is the gray bar
[18:55] <ikonia> chronosza: monitor information
[18:55] <kol> I don't have any gray bar :s
[18:55] <shiraj> anyone have experience with mythTV/mythbuntu ?
[18:55] <kol> and that's my problem :/
[18:55] <chronosza> ikonia: i meant, as in where do i find it?
[18:55] <ikonia> chronosza: ooh, errrrr, dccprobe ?
[18:55] <fosco__> kol, so /join #xubuntu
[18:56] <ikonia> chronosza: also look in your xorg log
[18:56] <kol> ok :)
[18:56] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, I have: "flashplugin-alternative.so" and "libjavaplugin.so"
[18:56] <kol> thanks for trying to help me :)
[18:56] <lawi> Hi guys. Trying to update from apt-cacher but am getting the error: 500 Can't connect to ubuntu:80 (Bad hostname 'ubuntu')
[18:56] <pjames> I'm trying to use a t-mobile dash for a modem, any thoughts?
[18:57] <ikonia> pjames: any thoughts about what ?
[18:57] <chronosza> ikonia: (II) intel(0): Output VGA using monitor section Configured Monitor
[18:57] <ikonia> lawi: means it can't resolve the hostname
[18:57] <ikonia> chronosza: thats nothing - you need the monitor information, what screen details it's advertising
[18:57] <rdw200169> pjames, it's not impossible, it can be done; it's always case specific; a google search is your friend on this one: google something like
[18:57] <pjames> ikonia: using a t-mobile dash phone for wirless modem.  I plug it in and it recongnizes it but does not connect.
[18:57] <rdw200169> pjames, 'tmobile dash ubuntu' or something
[18:58] <SQLDarkly> [kev]: ok now sudo locate libflashplayer.so
[18:58] <ikonia> pjames: is the t-mobile dash software written for linux ?
[18:58] <SQLDarkly> brb
[18:58] <pjames> ikonia: havnt a clue?
[18:58] <ikonia> pjames: I doubt it is
[18:59] <ikonia> pjames: hence why you're probably having problems
[18:59] <[kev]> SQLDarkly, found it...
[18:59] <SQLDarkly> ok kev give me a sec I have to run down the hall for a moment
[18:59] <thedark> hello everyone
[18:59] <rdw200169> pjames, its recognizing it as a usb drive type thing, i imagine; you're trying trying modem mode; this is related to using PPP and wvdial, etc...
[18:59] <[kev]> SQLDarkly,  k take ur time
[18:59] <Droopsta915> I installed Ibex 8.10, along with w32codecs and msfonts, what else does a Ubuntu User recommend. I have use Ubuntu for 6 months, but I need a recommendation. thanks in advance for the input and help.
[18:59] <thedark> I have moved to a foreign country from the US, and now I have a DVD collection composed of both Region 1 and Region 3 DVDs... is there a way around the 5 region change limit?
[19:00] <pjames> ikonia: corrent, in vista it simply uses sync and it just works.
[19:00] <ikonia> thedark: thats offtopic here
[19:00] <ikonia> pjames: just use the network connection tool, I think there is one for t-mobile
[19:00] <pjames> ikonia: correct that is :)
[19:00] <chronosza> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111816/
[19:00] <Scunizi> pjames: you might discover the "address" of the device by looking at dmesg after plugging it in.. I had to do that to setup gtkfax for my usb fax modem..
[19:00] <ikonia> chronosza: not much there, look at ddcprobe
[19:01] <less> does nail exist in hardy?
[19:01] <chronosza> ikonia: not installed and my packager manager still locked for the updates.
[19:01] <devex> Droopsta915: gnome-do, wicd, keepassx, htop, virtualbox, ... there is so much to try out :D
[19:01] <cwillu> !info nail | less
[19:01] <ikonia> chronosza: locked for updates ?
[19:01] <thedark> why, is that a hardware issue?
[19:02] <ikonia> chronosza: ddcprobe or dccprobe - can't remember which it is
[19:02] <cwillu> less, yes
[19:02] <ikonia> thedark: yes and no - but basiclly getting around region encoding is not really a topic for here
[19:02] <less> which package? i cannot find it :/
[19:02] <quibbler> thedark: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:02] <chronosza> ikonia: its ddcprobe it says i need to install it with apt but i cant cause apt says the package manager is locked.
[19:02] <thedark> I see
[19:02] <thedark> my apologies
[19:03] <cwillu> less, make sure you've got universe enabled, it's just called 'nail'
[19:03] <chronosza> ikonia: interesting that paste shows the driver identifying itself for 965 cards when google says the x3100 is a 945.
[19:03] <ikonia> chronosza: well spotted
[19:03] <pjames> Scunizi: the phone shows up and tries to connect but never finds an ip?
[19:04] <vigo> Is Ekiga the only VOIP phone for Ubuntu, or is there an actual free one?
[19:05] <cwillu> chronosza, apt-get won't work if you've got synaptic or otherwise open/running
[19:05] <derek> !nvidia
[19:05] <RediXe> I have a backup script that is running as a cron - how can I kill it? The cron just runs a .sh script but I messed up and have multiple copies and need to stop them.
[19:05] <Scunizi> vigo: no there wengophone in repos.. but ekiga 3.02 is available in PPA.. quite nice looking now.
[19:05] <chronosza> cwillu: it is open - my updates are installing
[19:05] <vigo> Thank you
[19:05] <quibbler> vigo: skype
[19:05] <derek> I keep getting a kernel error trying to install the drivers for my nvidia card
[19:05] <su4m> vigo: ekiga's free
[19:05] <Droopsta915> What can I do to clear up the pixles on my web browsing, the yahoo home page isnt very clear, all the smaller pictures are blury. I didnt have this problem with 8.04.
[19:06] <ikonia> derek: how ar eyou trying to install your drivers ?
[19:06] <cwillu> chronosza, you'll have to wait until they're done to run the apt-get install line then
[19:06] <jove> hello All, does anyone know how to extra to extract .rar files ?
[19:06] <su4m> quibbler: skype's non-free
[19:06] <chronosza> ikonia: ok no wait seems google shows that the 960 is also part of the x3100 range so it could be that one in my laptop.
[19:06] <shiraj> jove: use xarchiver
[19:07] <ikonia> jove: use the unrar program, it's in the repo
[19:07] <RediXe> nvm got it
[19:07] <shiraj> jove: and dl the rar and unrar packages
[19:07] <vigo> I went to Ekiga website and it was saying $22,95 USD per year or something.
[19:07] <derek> the hard way, I downloaded the offical drivers
[19:08] <shiraj> derek: you probably need to download the ehaders
[19:08] <derek> I got a bad update in gnome and now I have no GUI and I am not really very good at linux
[19:08] <ikonia> derek: why are you not using the ones ubuntu packaged for you
[19:08] <Scunizi> vigo: ekiga is free from sip to sip.. to make calls to landlines you can use anyone's service providing it's sip
[19:08] <cwillu> chronosza, do you have a pastebin of the entire Xorg.0.log file?
[19:08] <derek> I do not know how
[19:08] <chronosza> cwillu: doing it now
[19:08] <vigo> Oh ok,,,that makes sense,,now
[19:09] <Scunizi> derek: you had official nvidia drivers installed that you got directly from the site?
[19:09] <ikonia> derek: you go to system->administration->hardware drivers
[19:09] <jove> shiraj, can I use the manual to unrar by cmd ?
[19:09] <vigo> <<<<looks up SIP again because I forgot all this stuff.
[19:09] <derek> originally no, but I got a bad update that killed my gdm so now I have no GUI
[19:09] <shiraj> jove: yeah sure
[19:10] <vigo> Thank you kindly
[19:10] <derek> and I am pretty much lost
[19:10] <jove> shiraj: what the path of unrar
[19:10] <ikonia> derek: is there a reason you don't use the nvidia packages in the hardware drivers gui ?
[19:10] <shiraj> jove: i think its in /usr/bin
[19:10] <shiraj> or /bin
[19:10] <Scunizi> ikonia: to use the Ubuntu drivers, derek will have to uninstall the nvidia drivers from their site.. if he simply gets new drivers from nvidia and installs them, they will automatically uninstall the previous ones and install the new one.
[19:10] <shiraj> not too sure
[19:10] <Scunizi> *ones
[19:10] <derek> Gdm will not load, all I have is command line
[19:11] <ikonia> Scunizi: thats not correct
[19:11] <ikonia> derek: I asked is there a reason you chose not to use them in the first place
[19:11] <Scunizi> ikonia: was in my case with the kernel upgrade..
[19:11] <cwillu> chronosza, your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file would be useful too (should be pretty empty, but ya)
[19:11] <jove> shiraj: there is no *rar* in /bin or /usr/bin
[19:11] <looonger> hi, which version of ati drivers is currently in the repos?
[19:11] <shiraj> hm thats wierd i haveit instaleed too
[19:11] <mib_b40j9f> hey guys
[19:12] <shiraj> it works when i type unrar
[19:12] <jove> shiraj: if using GUI, where should I run it ?
[19:12] <derek> in the first place I used the automatic feature, but a bad update has prevented me from getting back into gdm
[19:12] <chronosza> cwillu: here is my current one : http://paste.ubuntu.com/111820/
[19:12] <shiraj> but its not in those dirs
[19:12] <mib_b40j9f> I'm having a strange thing happening with ubuntu
[19:12] <cwillu> jove, apt-get install unrar if you haven't already
[19:12] <cwillu> chronosza, thanks
[19:12] <shiraj> jove: use xarchiver and itll read the rars
[19:12] <mib_b40j9f> I have linux image 2.6.27.11-generic
[19:12] <chronosza> cwillu:  this is the one from the last time i tried to run something with 3D/acceleration - http://paste.ubuntu.com/111821/
[19:12] <mib_b40j9f> and it keeps bringing it up for update
[19:12] <mib_b40j9f> although I have that one already
[19:13] <jove> shiraj: wher isb ? the archive ta
[19:13] <cwillu> chronosza, what does this say?  ls -l /dev/dri/
[19:13] <mib_b40j9f> now I am updating it once more, but I did that yesterday
[19:13] <shiraj> jove idont understand say again pls?
[19:14] <chronosza> cwillu: : my xorg.conf - http://paste.ubuntu.com/111824/
[19:14] <jove> shiraj: is archive under Application or Places or SYSTEM Tab ?
[19:14] <chronosza> cwillu: total 0
[19:14] <chronosza> crw-rw-rw- 1 root video 226, 0 2009-01-30 19:10 card0
[19:15] <eyehatesludge> how do you compile programs from source
[19:15] <derek> Basically to make a long story short a bad update has caused me to not be able to get back into gnome and I am a linux newbie
[19:15] <shiraj> jove: you might have to install it from synaptic first and then itll show up in your right click menu
[19:15] <ikonia> eyehatesludge: that's a big ask, what do you need
[19:15] <WishingMaster> i need some help with kernel upgrade
[19:15] <derek> I think it is a display issue
[19:15] <ikonia> derek: answer my questions
[19:15] <ikonia> derek: I asked is there a reason you chose not to use them in the first place
[19:15] <cwillu> chronosza, sec
[19:15] <[kev]> SQLDarkly,  thanks for your time. i think im giving up for now
[19:15] <Hakume> I have a quick question about wireless drivers in Ubuntu 8.04
[19:15] <thomas__> sweet
[19:15] <derek> use which?
[19:16] <mib_b40j9f> anyone has the answer to my quiestion?
[19:16] <mib_b40j9f> linux image 2.6.27.11-generic
[19:16] <mib_b40j9f> linux image 2.6.27.11-generic
[19:16] <FloodBot1> mib_b40j9f: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:16] <mib_b40j9f> linux image 2.6.27.11-generic
[19:16] <ikonia> derek: is there a reason you chose not to use the ubuntu packaged ones
[19:16] <derek> originally I did
[19:16] <chronosza> cwillu:  kk.
[19:16] <Scunizi> derek: he wants to know if you're using nvidia drivers from Ubuntu or did you download them directly from nvidia
[19:16] <ikonia> Scunizi: I know he's downloaded them
[19:16] <Droopsta915> Is virtual box in synaptic? Where can I get it?
[19:16] <ikonia> Scunizi: I want to know why he's not using the ubuntu packaged ones now - or in the first place
[19:17] <derek> as of right no the orginals are installed, but those are ones with the bad update I think
[19:17] <Endophage> ikonia -> fyi i now have tomcat running without apache
[19:17] <Endophage> thanks for the help
[19:17] <Scunizi> ikonia: I know.. he was confused with your question
[19:17] <derek> thats why I was trying this other option
[19:17] <WishingMaster> i would like to upgrade to latest kernel so could someone tell me the way to upgrade?
[19:17] <derek> I tried the system recovery options but to no avail
[19:17] <Hakume> I have an Acer Aspire 4520
[19:17] <cwillu> chronosza, try this:  edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, the device section, add:  >>> Driver "Intel" <<<, and on the next line >>> Option "AccelMethod" "XAA" <<<, and restart gdm
[19:17] <jove> shiraj: is it under Application/Accessory: ARK ?
[19:17] <jimisrvrox> hey guys I dl'ed the 8.10net install via unetbootin and of course it tells me that its not bootable via my usb drive so do I have to go back and install the 8.10 iso in order to make it bootable or is there another way that I can make my usb bootable w/o having to go dl the iso?
[19:17] <Scunizi> WishingMaster: if it's available for your system it will prompt you with the update manager.
[19:18] <Hakume> I'm on Windows atm because wireless drivers won't work.
[19:18] <lucax> hey does ubuntu have any problem like cheese but not cheese? im having some issues with it...
[19:18] <WishingMaster> Scunizi, i am using 2.6.27-11
[19:18] <Scunizi> WishingMaster: on 8.10?
[19:18] <WishingMaster> yes
[19:18] <WishingMaster> Scunizi,
[19:18] <MrWindex> anyone know a program for ubuntu to make beats/techno stuff, like a synth program?
[19:19] <shiraj> jove: no its just called xarchiver
[19:19] <derek> Am I am completely ignorant to what your asking me?
[19:19] <Scunizi> WishingMaster: I just got a kernel update today for 8.10 .. when you get it depends on what mirror you're hooked to and when it's synced
[19:19] <prison_break> hello how can i see who is offline in amsn but in reality he's not
[19:19] <WishingMaster> Scunizi, so i think i can upgrade to 2.6.28-2
[19:19] <cwillu> chronosza, still there?
[19:19] <hwilde> how do I tell which nvidia-177 or -180 I am actually using?  lsmod only shows "nvidia"  and dpkg says I have several installed
[19:20] <jove> shiraj: can I run sudo apt-get install xarchive ?
[19:20] <chronosza> cwillu: yes just done it
[19:20] <cwillu> chronosza, k
[19:20] <chronosza> gonna do the ctrl alt back space to restart X now
[19:20] <Scunizi> WishingMaster: if it's in the repos and tuned for ubuntu yes.. otherwise if you're trying to download it from other sources.. you better know what you're doing..
[19:20] <shiraj> jove: cant hurt to try
[19:20] <WishingMaster> Scunizi, ok
[19:20] <lucax> what can i use insted of cheese?
[19:20] <shiraj> jove: its called xarchiver though
[19:20] <Dvyjones> Hi! I have a Logitech ClickSmart 310 webcam. Any idea how to get it working in Intrepid?
[19:20] <WishingMaster> Scunizi, i will check that
[19:21] <mehrab> hey guys
[19:21] <hwilde> Dvyjones, pwc should provide some logitech webcam support
[19:21] <gammy> I removed /var/cache. Haw. Is it possible to recreate the directory hierarchy (easily) ?
[19:21] <mehrab> recently when I install a program I cannot find it in kickoff menu or even run it in terminal, and I have to reboot to be able to use i
[19:21] <Scunizi> hwilde: if you look in System>Admin>hardware drivers what does it say there?  if nothing is tagged then did you install 180 by downloading from nvidia? if so that's probably what you're using.
[19:21] <prison_break> Is there any way how can i see who is offline in amsn?
[19:21] <jove> shiraj: once it's done, where should i launch it ?
[19:21] <derek> <--- Had everything working completely fine. Then one day an update caused gnome not to load properly. I think it has something to do with the display driver. I do not know how to fix it. Tried downloading Linux drivers from Nvidia and got a kernel error. How do I fix it through the repository?
[19:22] <Dvyjones> hwilde: apt-get install setpwc?
[19:22] <hwilde> Scunizi, ran nvidia-settings, says -180 there.
[19:22] <Hakume> I have an Atheros AR5007EG Wireless Network Adapter. Ubuntu said I had the correct driver, yet it wasn't working.
[19:22] <hellhound_> I am trying to setup dual monitors on my 8.10 installation.  I get an "x" cursor on the extra monitor not the normal cursor and no windows will move to it.  The other monitor runs fine.... can anyone help?  my xorg file is at http://pastebin.com/m4ecf473c
[19:22] <shiraj> jove: itll show up in the right click menu when you right click on an archive file
[19:22] <hwilde> Dvyjones, I dunno but http://www.saillard.org/linux/pwc/    Phillips Webcam Driver for Linux.
[19:22] <leftyfb> gammy: I already answered you. Reinstall ubuntu
[19:22] <Scunizi> hwilde: great.. if you didn't download them directly from nvidia you might have set up the medibuntu repos..
[19:22] <shiraj> jove: itll give you the option to open with xarchiver
[19:22] <gammy> leftyfb: Gah nazis everywhere.
[19:23] <Hakume> I think I got that specific enough...
[19:23] <prison_break> Is there any way how can i see who is offline in amsn?
[19:23] <leftyfb> gammy: nazi? What's your problem?
[19:23] <gammy> leftyfb: Now why on earth would I have to reinstall ubuntu for removing cache?
[19:23] <hwilde> Scunizi, I apt-getted them
[19:23] <gammy> leftyfb: were all dependency things for apt in there?
[19:23] <Hakume> Does the 8.10 upgrade fix the wireless driver issues?
[19:24] <jariep1_> hi all
[19:24] <Endophage> 8.10 has fixed my wireless issues
[19:24] <Scunizi> hwilde: then you must have the medibuntu repo's listed on your system.. maybe for the dvd playback restricted drivers.
[19:24] <Hakume> I'll check then.
[19:24] <leftyfb> gammy: Not sure how else you need to be told. You deleted a vital part of your filesystem. /var/cache isn't just files created temporarily all the time. You cannot just reinstall every application and expect it to recreate /var/cache.
[19:24] <gammy> leftyfb: because I can still seemingly use the machine and install AND remove packages, except it wants the hierarchy.
[19:24] <a931bw> hello any1 can help me ? after i'mformatet my kingston usb flash it don't supported by dvd player Why? How to fix it?
[19:24] <Hakume> Gotta boot into Ubuntu and connect to my ethernet connection...
[19:25] <Endophage> Hakume, good luck, hope it works
[19:25] <cwillu> chronosza, any luck?
[19:25] <derek> ikonia if I wanted to attempt to use the ubuntu packaged ones how would I do that?
[19:25] <a931bw> hello any1 can help me ? after i'mformatet my kingston usb flash it don't supported by dvd player Why? How to fix it?
[19:25] <leftyfb> gammy: go find another machine with ubuntu installed and manually recreate the folders. Although you're still not going to get the files in there that some things are going to need.
[19:25] <chronosza> cwillu: ok the graphics seemed crisper when X restarted. then i tried one of the 3D scvreensavers - the screen flickered twice then went black and everything froze, no response from keyboard or mouse
[19:25] <cwillu> :/
[19:25] <a931bw> ﻿hello any1 can help me ? after i'mformatet my kingston usb flash it don't supported by dvd player Why? How to fix it?
[19:25] <a931bw> Please help meh!
[19:25] <cwillu> chronosza, /var/log/Xorg.0.old ?
[19:25] <gammy> leftyfb:describe what "files" are "needed" and for what reason.
[19:26] <hwilde> Scunizi, /etc/apt/sources.list -> http://pastebin.com/f1a2b8627
[19:26] <gammy> leftyfb: (please)
[19:26] <nana> I need to wait at least 20+ second to run /etc/init.d/networking start, is it normal?
[19:26] <cwillu> a931bw, needs to be formatted with a filesystem that the dvd supports (probably ntfs or fat32)
[19:26] <a931bw> Fat32 but formatet to it!
[19:26] <nascentmind> hi. I get an error the audio playback device HDA Intel (ALC888 Analog) does not work. Falling back to HDA ATI HDMI,ATI HDMI (HDMI Audio Ouput). Can somebody suggest me as to how to fix this?
[19:26] <prison_break> Is there any way how can i see who is offline in amsn?
[19:27] <a931bw> ﻿hello any1 can help me ? after i'mformatet my kingston usb flash it don't supported by dvd player Why? How to fix it?
[19:27] <Scunizi> hwilde: doesn't show that repo .. so either from backports that you have enabled or from one of the PPA's that you have... No matter.. you got'em!
[19:28] <derek> !nvidia
[19:28] <{g}> Hey People! Some guys at #bash told me, XARGS is bad. I wonder, in which situations "grep -ril this * | xargs sed -i -e s/this/that/g" will fail?
[19:28] <hwilde> Scunizi, but isn't it odd that -180 is in use, but lsmod only shows the generic name?
[19:28] <chronosza> cwillu: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111827/
[19:29] <cwillu> thanks
[19:29] <chronosza> cwillu: continued here... http://paste.ubuntu.com/111828/
[19:29] <chronosza> cwillu: whats randr? i see its disabled.
[19:29] <Scunizi> hwilde: not really sure on that one.. what's the lsmod line you're using and I'll reference my system.. I have the 180.22 installed.
[19:29] <hwilde> Scunizi, lsmod | grep nv
[19:29] <prison_break> Is there any way how can i see who is offline in amsn?
[19:29] <cwillu> chronosza, screen resolution related stuff
[19:30] <hwilde> prison_break, it's in the options dude just look harder
[19:30] <hellhound_> I am trying to setup dual monitors on my 8.10 installation.  I get an "x" cursor on the extra monitor not the normal cursor and no windows will move to it.  The other monitor runs fine.... can anyone help?  my xorg file is at http://pastebin.com/m4ecf473c
[19:30] <Blog_Novak> So uh....why is my computer freezing constantly after today's Intrepid update?
[19:30] <cwillu> chronosza, apt-get install pastebinit, and then you can just type 'pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log' to do the pastebin (for anythign further :p)
[19:30] <Scunizi> hwilde: same thing on my sys.. must be normal
[19:30] <nux> so i installed esaypeasy. heh stupid system doesnt think its install.howdo i remove the loading setup on startup of my pc?
[19:30] <prison_break> hwilde i mean not reaaly offline
[19:30] <mehrab> any help with my problem?
[19:31] <jove> shiraj: hmm....I move the mouse to the file and right click on the mouse which extract pops up with "ARK" or open with other application --> go into it I don't see xarchive, but archive manager ? how do I find xarchive ? do i need to reboot to take t ?an effec
[19:31] <hwilde> mehrab, can you restate your issue please I missed it
[19:31] <mauijoe>  I am having trouble with my sound from an ICH5 device. On my old box with alsa 1.0.9 I would set the volume for master, pcm, and ice95 and then set ice95 to pcm. Now with a brand new ubuntu intrepid ibex install and alsa 1.o.17, i have to unmute and set the volumes but change ice95 to analog in and unmute mic boos to get any sound. the sound I get is very very low with a nasty hiss. What am I missing?
[19:32] <mehrab> hwilde: I cant run programs after installing them, I have to reboot to be able to run them
[19:32] <hwilde> mehrab, example?
[19:32] <Dvyjones> Hi! I have a Logitech ClickSmart 310 webcam. Any idea how to get it working in Intrepid? I think it uses the gpcis driver...
[19:33] <Dvyjones> Gspca*
[19:33] <nux> why does my system want to reinstall on bootup?
[19:33] <nux> *install
[19:33] <spill> hey guys, I am trying to get a friends t-mobile dash to work as a modem in his laptop, can't get it to connect but ubuntu does reconize it. any thoughts
[19:33] <mehrab> hwilde: kaffeine, aptoncd, smplayer ...
[19:33] <lawi> I dont think am going to use the apt-cacher either. I dont think it works with hardy
[19:33] <lascar> how do I know when ath5k is up and running?
[19:34] <hwilde> mehrab, what happens exactly when you try to run them?
[19:34] <lawi> No one seems to have a solution
[19:34] <Laurenceb> hi how do I connect to a netwrok drive?
[19:34] <hwilde> !smb | Laurenceb
[19:34] <Laurenceb> I only have instruction for windows
[19:34] <Scunizi> spill: just guessing but should it be treated like a dsl modem.. you might need a ppp library/setup utility
[19:34] <Laurenceb> can I do it with nautilus?
[19:34] <hwilde> Laurenceb, Places -> Connect to server  ->  Windows Share
[19:34] <Laurenceb> ok
[19:34] <mneptok> Laurenceb: smb://host.ip.address/share/name
[19:35] <clearzen> is ext4 support being shipping with all newly released ubuntu kernels?
[19:35] <spill> Scunizi: what would be a recomended packadge to use then?
[19:35] <dayo_> nux: maybe u left your ubuntu CD in the drive?
[19:35] <mneptok> clearzen: no. Jaunty only.
[19:35] <mehrab> hwilde: in terminal it woulds: command not found
[19:35] <Droopsta915> I have a xp iso image, can I mount it in virtual box? Im using Ibex8.10.
[19:35] <Scunizi> spill: not sure .. like I said just guessing. I've never setup a dsl connection..
[19:35] <cwillu> chronosza, you're on hardy, right?
[19:35] <clearzen> mneptok: where can I get the code to build it into my existing kernel then?
[19:35] <nux> dayo_, no.. i install it  from usb "easypesy v1) the usb is no longer in
[19:35] <cwillu> chronosza, or intrepid?
[19:35] <Scunizi> Droopsta915: yes
[19:35] <BCampbell> anyone else having issues with Firefox 3.0.5 just exiting whenever it feels like it?
[19:36] <mneptok> spill: what ISP?
[19:36] <hwilde> mehrab, in terminal please    "echo $PATH"    what does it say
[19:36] <spill> Scunizi: T-mobile, it shows up under Mobile broadband in Network connections.
[19:36] <cwillu> BCampbell, do you have flash 9 or flash 10 installed?
[19:36] <mehrab> hwilde: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[19:36] <dayo_> BCampbell: occassionally
[19:36] <Scunizi> BCampbell: nope.. but if you upgraded and had various plugins installed you might want to rename ~/.mozilla to ~/.mozilla.backup and restart FF to check if that fixes it.
[19:36] <mauijoe>  I am having trouble with my sound from an ICH5 device. On my old box with alsa 1.0.9 I would set the volume for master, pcm, and ice95 and then set ice95 to pcm. Now with a brand new ubuntu intrepid ibex install and alsa 1.o.17, i have to unmute and set the volumes but change ice95 to analog in and unmute mic boos to get any sound. the sound I get is very very low with a nasty hiss. What am I missing?
[19:37] <chronosza> cwillu:  intrepid. brb, seeing someone off.
[19:37] <cwillu> k
[19:37] <Scunizi> spill: maybe someone else will chime in.. I can't help you
[19:37] <hwilde> mehrab, type   "which kaffeine"  or "which aptoncd"  or  "which smplayer".  Are they located in one of those directories in your $PATH ?
[19:37] <spill> Scunizi: thanks.
[19:37] <BCampbell> cwillu, yes on both
[19:37] <Scunizi> spill: np
[19:37] <BCampbell> Scunizi, will try that thanks
[19:37] <cwillu> BCampbell, eh?
[19:37] <hwilde> spill, did you google for this?  if it's possible there should be a guide online
[19:37] <Droopsta915> Scunizi: I can't mount the .iso. I get an -could not recognize the format of the disk.
[19:37] <mneptok> spill: what is the ISP? how do you connect?
[19:38] <cwillu> BCampbell, you shouldn't have 9 installed, and you _really_ shouldn't have both installed at the same time
[19:38] <spill> hwilde: ya, i' have been but coming up empty with a how to.
[19:38] <BCampbell> cwillu, sorry..misread...flash 10
[19:38] <mneptok> spill: is this a 3G modem? if so, does it have Linux drivers?
[19:38] <hwilde> spill, what phone model plz
[19:38] <mehrab> hwilde: what do you mean by which?
[19:38] <Scunizi> Droopsta915: are you going to try installing it?
[19:38] <spill> mneptok: its t-mobile and a usb connection,
[19:38] <cwillu> BCampbell, did you ever have libflashsupport et al installed by hand or anything?
[19:38] <ogden> hey can anyone tell me if they've had success with ubuntu 8.10 and Native Instruments Audio 8 DJ Interface?
[19:38] <spill> hwilde: its the dash.
[19:38] <mneptok> spill: USB dongle?
[19:38] <\kira> in top, what does status R mean?
[19:39] <mneptok> spill: has T-Mobile confirmed that this USB device has Linux drivers and works with their service?
[19:39] <tricqster> hi, I've just installed ubuntu 9.04 - can I run update? there is 261 updates - I'm just afraid, if my packages aren't going to downgrade (to 8.10).
[19:39] <\kira> and D?
[19:39] <Soyo> After my last update gnome will not load can anyone help
[19:39] <Droopsta915> Scunizi: yes, I want to install Xp, in virtual box. The Xp is an ISO, It's not .vmdk. vdi or vhd format.
[19:39] <lascar> !ath5k
[19:39] <BCampbell> cwillu, I think the libflashsupport was installed, ran apt-get autoremove eariler today i beleive it was removed
[19:39] <Scunizi> tricqster: if you installed 9.04 and there's updates I've never heard of it downgrading.. do them
[19:39] <cwillu> tricqster, it won't downgrade, but you should be aware that 9.04 isn't stable.  There may be things that completely break the desktop on a regular basis
[19:39] <spill> mneptok: no, but linux recongnizes it as a dash and it shows the T-mobile wed/internet under broadband connections.
[19:39] <tricqster> Scunizi: thank you
[19:40] <spill> mneptok: they havnt said it wont work, just havnt verified it.
[19:40] <cwillu> BCampbell, run this and tell me if anything comes back:  locate libflashplayer.so
[19:40] <tricqster> cwillu: I know, it's installed on my SD card - I'm just testing it :) thanks
[19:41] <mneptok> spill: pastebin the output of "lsusb -vvv"
[19:41] <hwilde> mehrab, I mean type that in.
[19:41] <cwillu> tricqster, check your private messages
[19:41] <hwilde> spill, give me make and model
[19:41] <spill> mneptok: k, just a secon.
[19:41] <mneptok> mehrab. with sails unfurled.
[19:41] <spill> hwilde: its a t-mobile dash.
[19:41] <BCampbell> cwillu, yes several locations are returned
[19:42] <BCampbell> cwillu, /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[19:42] <BCampbell> /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[19:42] <BCampbell> /usr/lib/iceweasel/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[19:42] <BCampbell> /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[19:42] <BCampbell> /var/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/npwrapper.libflashplayer.so
[19:42] <FloodBot1> BCampbell: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:42] <BCampbell> sorry
[19:42] <daemon2054> всем привет
[19:42] <Soyo> Does anyone know how to re-install video card drivers with just the command line?
[19:42] <Scunizi> Droopsta915: the first thing is to create the vm for the install.. then highlight the newly created vm in vbox's vm menu and hit settings.. go to cdrom and tag it to startup with the iso.. finish and click start
[19:42] <hwilde> spill, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=560966
[19:42] <daemon2054> hi ppl
[19:42] <cwillu> BCampbell, sorry, I gave you the wrong line anyway
[19:42] <mehrab> hwilde: for example: /usr/bin/kaffeine, did you mean this?
[19:42] <daemon2054> i need help
[19:43] <BCampbell> cwillu, it's okay
[19:43] <hwilde> mehrab, ok well /usr/bin is in your path, so you hsould just be able to type that and run it...
[19:43] <daemon2054> how to modify my desktop?
[19:43] <Soyo> Firefox says no display selected
[19:43] <Droopsta915> Thanks, I also will read through the manual to learn it a little better.
[19:43] <cwillu> BCampbell, locate libflashsupport.so
[19:43] <hwilde> daemon2054, right click on it
[19:43] <cwillu> BCampbell, use a pastebin for the answer if it's more than 2 lines :p
[19:44] <Soyo> !Soyo
[19:44] <BCampbell> cwillu, yeah..i know better wasn't thinking
[19:44] <Soyo> !no display
[19:44] <Soyo> !no
[19:44] <Soyo> !display
[19:44] <daemon2054> no i talk about the Compiz
[19:44] <BCampbell> cwillu, nothing found on libflashsupport.so
[19:44] <chronosza> cwillu: where were we
[19:44] <daemon2054> modify buttons views etc
[19:44] <Blog_Novak> OK .. I'm on a Sony Vaio Centrino Duo .... I'm running Intrepid ... there was some kind of kernel update today and now my shit's freezing constantly
[19:44] <daemon2054> like on apple
[19:44] <Blog_Novak> any suggestions on a fix?
[19:45] <Soyo> x will not load I don't know what to do
[19:45] <jonaskoelker> Hi all.  My firefox uses 30% cpu (of 798 MHz, typically, due to frequency scaling) ** when idle **, which I feel is a bit excessive.  How can I make it use less cpu?
[19:45] <mehrab> hwilde: now after rebooting I can run with just kaffeine and also I can run it from application menu, before rebooting none of the worked, i wanna solve this
[19:45] <Blog_Novak> i get the flashing Caps Lock/ Num Lock keys
[19:45] <Soyo> <-- not linux proficient
[19:45] <cwillu> BCampbell, k, then I don't have much of an idea
[19:45] <cwillu> BCampbell, try running firefox in a terminal so as to get the debug output, and you might try creating a fresh profile and seeing if you still have the issue
[19:45] <Scunizi> jonaskoelker: check what pages are loaded.. if they are constantly pulling in info or not.. like sites with boxes/frames that are moving or forever updating.
[19:46] <Soyo> I guess I wipe it all and re-install the whole thing
[19:46] <cwillu> chronosza, you're on 8.04 or 8.10?
[19:46] <Scunizi> Soyo: what video card?
[19:46] <BCampbell> cwillu, thanks for the help, I have renamed .mozilla as mentioned above, will re-enable my add-ons one at a time to see...also will try the terminal, thanks again
[19:46] <Soyo> Nvidia GeForce 6200
[19:46] <jonaskoelker> Scunizi: do you know of a better way of checking whether firefox is pulling info or not than looking in wireshark?
[19:46] <dou213> how can i restart the lamp-server?
[19:47] <Scunizi> jonaskoelker: yea.. look at the pages that are loaded in FF
[19:47] <melouber> hej
[19:47] <Droopsta915> Scunizi: Thanks, installing xp as a type! Bye Bye VMware.
[19:47] <Scunizi> Soyo: do you have a terminal prompt?
[19:47] <jonaskoelker> Scunizi: what do I look for?
[19:47] <melouber> jest tu ktoś ?
[19:47] <Soyo> thats all I have
[19:47] <chronosza> cwillu: 8.10
[19:47] <melouber> ang. lang ?
[19:47] <jonaskoelker> Scunizi: whether it doesn't say "Done" in the status bar?
[19:47] <melouber> english lang. ?
[19:47] <Scunizi> jonaskoelker: like moving pictures.. etc..
[19:47] <jonaskoelker> melouber: english
[19:47] <Soyo> I have to drop to root
[19:47] <melouber> oh hey !
[19:47] <melouber> im here first time
[19:47] <melouber> my first linux ;]
[19:48] <melouber> and i dont know what lang is here
[19:48] <Scunizi> Soyo: ok.. do sudo apt-get install dkms
[19:48] <melouber> im from poland
[19:48] <melouber> ;]
[19:48] <guntbert> !pl | melouber
[19:48] <jonaskoelker> Scunizi: not AFAICT
[19:48] <Soyo> ok, what is that?
[19:48] <sampointon> how come firefox and pidgin are both reading hard from my disk while I'm just idling? My cpu is spending 90% of its time waiting for i/o
[19:48] <melouber> ubottu : thanks !
[19:49] <cwillu> chronosza, what does this say:  dpkg-query -s xserver-xorg-video-intel|grep -i version
[19:49] <jonaskoelker> melouber: thank guntbert :)
[19:49] <kouya> hi, is it possible to make GRUB (from liveCD) look the same way as Wubi's?
[19:49] <kouya> Wubi::
[19:49] <kouya> Windows
[19:49] <kouya> Ubuntu
[19:49] <kouya> LiveCD::
[19:49] <kouya> Windows (+ some more text)
[19:49] <FloodBot1> kouya: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:49] <Scunizi> Soyo: that's a little thing we (ubuntu) got with their relationship with Dell.. helps update kernel mods.. next thing is did you use System>Admin>hardware drivers to install the drivers for your nvidia?
[19:49] <Rhorse> boy that Ubuntu is something, isn't he?
[19:49] <sampointon> some other programs are reading pretty hard from the disk too, but firefox and pidgin are by far and away the worst offenders
[19:50] <mavsman4457> Is there a way I can convert several m4a's to mp3's?
[19:50] <jedi-dragon> !botabuse
[19:50] <chronosza> cwillu: Version: 2:2.4.1-1ubuntu10.3
[19:50] <dou213> hi guys, how can i restart the lamp-server?
[19:50] <Soyo> yes, which worked, but then after an update I could not load anymore, just drop to root
[19:50] <Scunizi> dou213: sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[19:50] <jonaskoelker> mavsman4457: I have no clue, but I'd guess mencoder could do the trick
[19:50] <sampointon> if top was showing some program running away with all the memory I'd guess a leak somewhere leading to thrashing, but no program seems especially memory hungry
[19:50] <Rhorse> mavsman4457, just subtract 1
[19:50] <jonaskoelker> mavsman4457: that's what I would google for
[19:50] <octoserver> anyone else not able to use the boxee repo right now ?
[19:50] <cwillu> dou213, sudo apache2ctl restart will restart the apache process
[19:50] <mavsman4457> Rhorse, subtract 1?
[19:51] <mavsman4457> is that a program?
[19:51] <okidoki1> hey is kde 4.2 included with kubuntu now if you download the livecd? or does it need to be upgraded?
[19:51] <TheFunkbomb> Is there a WYSIWYG XUL editor for Ubuntu?
[19:51] <kouya> have anyone made FinalFantasyXI/POL work in Wine?
[19:51] <zombierapist> hai
[19:51] <RediXe> Anyway to keep the network manager from over writing resolv.conf? We run our own dns in house and when I reboot it gets over written. Running static IP's.
[19:51] <zombierapist> anyone no when ZDAY coming out?
[19:51] <jonaskoelker> RediXe: uninstall networkmanager?
[19:51] <dou213> cwillu, and how about the php service?
[19:51] <RediXe> jonaskoelker, only way?
[19:51] <guntbert> mavsman4457: Rhorse was joking :)
[19:52] <cwillu> dou213, php isn't a service
[19:52] <jonaskoelker> RediXe: or (I think) make it not connect *automatically* to anything
[19:52] <cwillu> dou213, it's invoked by apache
[19:52] <dou213> ok thx
[19:52] <jonaskoelker> RediXe: probably not the only way, but the *right* way :P
[19:52] <djabbour> Is there any reason why on an ubuntu system sshd doesn't start automatically (i have to run it from init.d every boot), and what is the ubuntu-specific way to enable it?
[19:52] <mavsman4457> guntbert, that's embarrassing, thanks
[19:52] <jonaskoelker> RediXe: (someone's going to flame me for that)
[19:52] <kouya> when i finnish the install (did just like ffxiwine.org) PlayOnline starts but the window is black. nothing happens
[19:53] <Soyo> Scunizi: yes, which worked, but then after an update I could not do a normal boot anymore just drop to root. I think it is a display issue
[19:53] <cwillu> chronosza, :/
[19:53] <redmage123> Hello.  Does anyone on this forum have any experience setting up a network installation using PXEboot and preseed files?
[19:53] <TheFunkbomb> Is there a WYSIWYG Xul editor for Ubuntu?
[19:54] <JamesA_> Can anyone recommend a piece of software for securely erasing data? I.e. several passes of wiping
[19:54] <redmage123> Alternatively, can someone recommend a more relevant forum if this isn't really the appropriate place to ask this question?
[19:54] <cwillu> JamesA_, a single wipe with dd is generally sufficient (presuming we're talking about wiping an entire drive)
[19:54] <jove> shiraj: Thanks for your help!
[19:55] <chronosza> cwilly : ?
[19:55] <okidoki1> ZDAY looks like total shit
[19:55] <cwillu> redmage123, look for the ltsp documentation
[19:55] <chronosza> cwillu: ?
[19:55] <Soyo> <-- going to try dkms
[19:55] <cwillu> chronosza, looking for related bugs, not having much luck
[19:55] <redmage123> cwillu:  Actually, the problem isn't with PXEboot but with the client installer having problems downloading the Release files.
[19:56] <JamesA_> I'm talking about single file or folder deletion, cwillu.
[19:56] <chronosza> cwillu: that acceleration entry, is there any other kinds of acceleration i can try?
[19:56] <JamesA_> There's a Windows program called Eraser, I'm looking for a similar piece of software for Ubuntu.
[19:56] <jove> Does anyone know how to burn data after download to KTorrent ?
[19:56] <cwillu> chronosza, exa is the default, xaa is the older, stable, but unsupported method
[19:57] <cwillu> chronosza, you could try option "noaccel" "true", but even if it works, it still leaves you without acceleration :p
[19:57] <chronosza> oh. heh
[19:57] <Rhorse> JamesA_, is that a privacy sweeper? For firefox?
[19:57] <chronosza> cwillu: thats where i am now :) well, i have acceleration but cant use it.
[19:57] <cwillu> chronosza, I'm tempted to get you to try the drivers out of xorg-edgers, but I really don't know if it'll help, and it's a pain to back out (well, non-trivial)
[19:57] <drdozer> If I wanted to try out jaunty, what's the easiest way?
[19:57] <chronosza> cwillu: ill try anything
[19:58] <cwillu> chronosza, maybe try getting a 8.10 livecd, see if accel works stably when booted off that
[19:58] <chronosza> cwillu: (long as its not illegal or doesnt have vodka.)
[19:58] <waltons_pacman> on boot up of anything, bios, a live cd (linux/windoze/ect), monitor suddenly gets a "no signal" error, and screen dies.
[19:58] <waltons_pacman> the only thing that seems to work is the previous install of xp.
[19:58] <waltons_pacman> attempting to run ubuntu 8.10 x64 bit. relavent parts are a 22" monitor and a 9800gt geforce edition video card.
[19:58] <waltons_pacman> any ideas?
[19:58] <FloodBot1> waltons_pacman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:58] <cwillu> chronosza, any opposition to rye? :p
[19:58] <chronosza> cwillu: heh no. ill get the live cd quick and try it. will be interesting to see what it does
[19:58] <jove> Does anyone know how to burn data after download to KTorrent ?
[19:58] <elwood> sorry for the ot:any arab linux user?
[19:59] <franck_> hi there
[19:59] <cwillu> chronosza, might also consider trying 8.04, although I don't want to force you to try a dozen different live cd's
[19:59] <drdozer> jove: you need to install one of the cd/dvd burning applications
[19:59] <waltons_pacman> on boot up of anything, bios, a live cd (linux/windoze/ect), monitor suddenly gets a "no signal" error, and screen dies. the only thing that seems to work is the previous install of xp.attempting to run ubuntu 8.10 x64 bit. relavent parts are a 22" monitor and a 9800gt geforce edition video card.
[19:59] <waltons_pacman> any ideas?
[19:59] <Scunizi> Soyo: sorry work calls.. perhaps ikonia  can assist.. ikonia Soyo is using ubuntu nvidia drivers and did the latest kernel update and now is left at the terminal prompt.. can you assist?
[20:00] <BCampbell> waltons_pacman, dvi or vga connection?
[20:00] <mneptok> spill: you just made my /ignore list
[20:00] <waltons_pacman> dvi to the monitor
[20:00] <mneptok> spill: pasting hundreds of lines of output to my IRC client will result in such things
[20:00] <jove> drdozer: what the name of cd/cdrom to install if I use "apt-get" ?
[20:00] <cwillu> atichronosza, otherwise, reporting a bug on launchpad would be a good thing to do (they'll need a bunch of info, which I don't know off hand, but they'll give you a list once you post a bug)
[20:00] <BCampbell> waltons_pacman, try the safe graphics mode from the live cd...hit F6 i think will give you options
[20:01] <waltons_pacman> did that
[20:01] <waltons_pacman> no go.
[20:01] <cwillu> chronosza, otherwise, reporting a bug on launchpad would be a good thing to do (they'll need a bunch of info, which I don't know off hand, but they'll give you a list once you post a bug)
[20:01] <edwar> ada org gak nich
[20:01] <cwillu> chronosza, work just called, I need to run though, sorry I couldn't help more :(
[20:01] <BCampbell> waltons_pacman, maybe motherboard issue then try noacpi?
[20:02] <chronosza> cwillu: no problem. ill try live cd and see what driver it uses if it works
[20:02] <waltons_pacman> what is noacpi?
[20:02] <chronosza> cwillu: if 8.04's driver works ok, how can u get it to replace 8.10's cause package manager wont allow that will it?
[20:02] <jiffe89> is there a full list of preseed options I can look at somewhere?
[20:03] <cwillu> chronosza, if 8.04's works, then definitely post a bug to launchpad.net, regressions are bad :)
[20:03] <BCampbell> waltons_pacman, turns off some of the motherboard power options and other stuff...i know with my asus motherboard it confilcts at boot on some versions of linux
[20:03] <chronosza> cwillu: oh ok
[20:03] <chronosza> cwillu: thanks for the help man. ciao
[20:03] <Devyll> I have ubuntu on a box with nat routing several lan ip's to the internet. can you tell me how can I limit the traffic/bandwitch for a specific ip ? ??
[20:04] <waltons_pacman> hmmm. thanks BCampbell, ill look into it-but this also happens if i let it hang at the bios menu.
[20:04] <waltons_pacman> and it also happens at random intervals. its not even-specific
[20:04] <BCampbell> waltons_pacman, good luck, wish i could help more
[20:04] <gcbzero> I want to install openoffice 3, but after adding "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/" to my sourcelist and updating apt i get a msg that  http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release can't be checked because the public key is not available. Does anyone know how i add it to my apt?
[20:05] <Rhorse> gcbzero, google is your friend
[20:05] <gcbzero> i didn't really find anything via google thats why i'm asking here
[20:05] <guntbert> gcbzero: have you seen http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-OpenOffice-org-3-0-in-Ubuntu-8-10-96449.shtml ?
[20:06] <BCampbell> gcbzero, just an idea, but download the .deb files from openoffice.org and install that way?
[20:06] <franck_> i use ubuntu desktop 8.10 and i want to install the parallele plesk tu virtualize windows xp
[20:06] <gcbzero> @gnutbert: yes i have
[20:07] <guntbert> gcbzero: as far as I remember there is a hint about adding the proper key too
[20:07] <franck_> did somebody can tell me how to do this please?
[20:07] <werdnum> hi!
[20:08] <werdnum> How do I add a passphrase to an existing ssh private key?
[20:09] <werdnum> looks like info ssh-keygen has the answer.
[20:09] <Rhorse> gcbzero, http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release can't be checked because the public key is not
[20:09] <nikrud> gcbzero, https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa has the key you need, and a link to instructions , Rhorse also
[20:09] <Devyll> does anybody have an ideea ? at least what module I should use..
[20:09] <gcbzero> nikrud: Thank you :-)
[20:10] <Buttons1> Question: The mouse 6 and 7 buttons on my mouse get in the way when trying to middle click, is there anyway to disable them?
[20:10] <austin_> this like an IRC chat?
[20:10] <austin_> new to linux
[20:10] <Buttons1> yes, it's just a irc chat austin
[20:10] <StorageGuest3675> better
[20:11] <pike_> Devyll: links in this thread may be of help.  a general search for bandiwdth throttling also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=150842
[20:11] <Rhorse> austin_, how do you like Ubuntu so far?
[20:11] <austin_> cool becuase im lost maybe someone can help i'm trying to change my theme i have read about 4 guides and cant get past the 4th step on most
[20:11] <Droopsta915> Whats a good amount of Base Memory and Video memory to set up an XP Virtual Box on Ubuntu?
[20:11] <Devyll> pike_ , thanks
[20:11] <BridgeInhabitant> After installing kernel 2.6.27-11 the ethernet card in my laptop goes into standby when I shutdown
[20:12] <austin_> it says go to apps>system>preferances>theme
[20:12] <Brucee> same way you change it in xp or vista
[20:12] <austin_> i canty find it
[20:12] <BridgeInhabitant> This is not the case in kernel 2.6.27-11 and/or Windows XP
[20:12] <redmage123> Does anyone know if it is possible to debug a network installation?  specifically, is it possible to find out what the installer program is actually doing via log files or STDERR or some such?
[20:12] <Brucee> you choose a theme
[20:12] <Buttons1> no apps in that austin
[20:12] <Buttons1> just go system>prefrences>theme
[20:12] <quibbler> austin_: systen>perferences>appearance
[20:12] <austin_> where do i choose the theme i cant find anything about settings on themes
[20:12] <austin_> yea another problem
[20:12] <Soyo> Ok so I did apt-get dkms and it says I have the newest version
[20:13] <Buttons1> go to appearance
[20:13] <Soyo> now what?
[20:13] <austin_> perferneces is not on the menu
[20:13] <Rhorse> redmage123, why don't you start it from CLI with 2> errorfile
[20:13] <Buttons1> prefrences is not listed under system?
[20:13] <redmage123> Rhorse:  How would I go about doing that?  Can I set this option in the preseed file?
[20:13] <Spark_rd2> how to install parallele plesk on ubunut desktop?
[20:13] <quibbler> austin_: http://www.gnome-look.org/
[20:13] <austin_> no it is not
[20:13] <subsume> Does anyone know how myphpadmin package sets up in apache2?
[20:13] <redmage123> or in the pxelinux.cfg/default file?
[20:14] <lyk3n> hello
[20:14] <Soyo> how do you uninstall something so you can reinstall it?
[20:14] <Rhorse> find out the name of the executable by looking at the properties, and then enter the command manually
[20:14] <Spark_rd2> hi lyk3n
[20:14] <Buttons1> ...
[20:14] <quibbler> austin_: systen>perferences>appearance
[20:14] <Gerinych> how do i open .dmp files in linux?
[20:14] <Buttons1> what version of ubuntu are you using?
[20:14] <BridgeInhabitant> can anyone enlighten me to why the latest kernel does not turn off the ethernet after shutting down?
[20:14] <subsume> Soyo: apt-get remove ?
[20:14] <Rhorse> redmage123, find out the name of the executable by looking at the properties, and then enter the command manually
[20:15] <ArielMT> Soyo: or in one step, sudo apt-get --reinstall install <packagename>
[20:15] <lyk3n> does anyone know of a working 3d file manager? one like in the movies
[20:15] <Sam_IRC> How can I have a script automatically run every time my server starts up?
[20:15] <mgolisch> BridgeInhabitant: what do you mean by turn off?
[20:15] <RockMaster> Upstream coming thru ---
[20:15] <Soyo> ok, so what is the package name for gnome
[20:15] <mgolisch> BridgeInhabitant: actualy the router shows link for all my comps if they are turned off
[20:15] <redmage123> Rhorse:  Basically, my client is booting via the network with pxeboot and a preseed file.  the problem that I'nm having is that the installation fails when trying to access the mirror.
[20:15] <subsume> Soyo: apt-cache search gnome
[20:15] <redmage123> And I don't know why.
[20:15] <dougiel> I do a 'df' and my command prompt never comes back and df does not report full data on my system - any thots?
[20:15] <spideyman> how do i install a new monitor?
[20:16] <Soyo> ok thanks
[20:16] <pike_> spideyman: plug it in
[20:16] <spideyman> ha ha
[20:16] <_pepitor> anyone is facin firefoz startup maximized wrongly on startup?
[20:16] <n8tuserf> dougiel-> df -h
[20:16] <austin_> ok i went to http://www.gnome-look.org/
[20:16] <Spark_rd2> did someone know about how to install parallele plesk on ubunut desktop?
[20:16] <austin_> and downloaded a theme
[20:16] <Rhorse> redmage123, sri, that's above my paygrade. Maybe someone else?
[20:16] <pike_> spideyman: shouldnt be much harder than that really
[20:16] <dougiel> spideyman, take it out of the box, plug it in to the wall then into the puter and turn it on
[20:16] <RockMaster> I just bought some dvd's (3 for 99 Swdish crowners) and i cant play them. What could i be missing packagewise !!! ?
[20:16] <Buttons1> does anyone know a way i can get ubuntu to ignore all mouse clicks except for buttons 1 2 3?
[20:16] <austin_> now im looking at it in a folder
[20:16] <dougiel> n8tuserf, thanks
[20:16] <USSVoyager> hey anyone know how to do an ubuntu install over the network without using PXE
[20:16] <lyk3n> Does the hibernate option work in hardy heron
[20:17] <USSVoyager> or have a link to how to do it
[20:17] <BridgeInhabitant> mgolisch, well in a laptop it isn't a good idea to leave the ethernet controller active listening to network traffic, not only could this be a security risk but its a good way to loose battery power
[20:17] <_pepitor> yeah it works
[20:17] <mack> Hey it seems that when I boot into my PC, it sometimes hangs on Checking for bluetooth: and it never does the [OK] and I just have to hold the power button. Has anyone else had an error similar to this or have any idea? I'm a fairly technical person and I would really like to understand why it's doing that
[20:17] <n8tuserf> USSVoyager -> google for unetbootin
[20:17] <Buttons1> hold up austin, you said you don't even have preferences listed under system, sounds like you have bigger concerns to me
[20:17] <pike_> spideyman: its not like the old days when every time you switched you had to manually adjust horiz and vert settings and stuff
[20:17] <dougiel> n8tuserf, df -h = same symptom
[20:17] <spideyman> pike its on the old settings and dpkg reconfigure xserver xorg isnt doing it
[20:17] <BridgeInhabitant> mgolisch, it is also a very good reason to ditch ubuntu for another distro and/or windows
[20:17] <n8tuserf> dougiel -> sudo df -h
[20:17] <USSVoyager> n8tuserf --.unetbootin doesn't do network installs does it?
[20:17] <pike_> spideyman: getting an 'out of range' message on monitor or something?
[20:17] <austin_> well i googled that too and told me to use this command one sec let me get it
[20:17] <RockMaster> See, if i buy or renty movies i want to be able to watch them (Warner brothers need to learn here) ...
[20:17] <spideyman> no signal
[20:17] <dougiel> n8tuserf, same thing
[20:17] <mgolisch> BridgeInhabitant: you did shutdown right?
[20:18] <n8tuserf> USSVoyager -> go see it please
[20:18] <RockMaster> Any takers ?
[20:18] <austin_> \alacarte
[20:18] <parsifal_> what's a good graphical sql/mysql client I can install through apt-get?
[20:18] <n8tuserf> dougiel -> what is the symptom?
[20:18] <pike_> spideyman: same port or did you switch from vga to dvi?
[20:18] <adam> !xterm
[20:18] <austin_> i can get there buty still no themes menu
[20:18] <adam> damn
[20:18] <USSVoyager> not what I want
[20:19] <pike_> urxvt ftw
[20:19] <spideyman> its still vga but its a 32 inch lcd
[20:19] <dougiel> n8tuserf, df does not completely output all the data on my mounts and never gives the command prompt back
[20:19] <devex> RockMaster: which player do you use? dvds worked without problems for me using kaffeine
[20:19] <adam> when I use 'env' and my TERM=xterm, that's what terminal im using right?
[20:19] <jiffe89> anyone know why my custom image would fail to install packages when I include subversion?  I used apt-get install -d subversion to download the dependencies and added those to the extras folder where I have all the other packages that do install correctly
[20:19] <RockMaster> My Beautiful Ubuntu system is far more worth then some casual dvd movies.
[20:19] <n8tuserf> dougiel -> what are you trying to achieve? output all data?
[20:19] <Sam_IRC> this place is horribly busy :\
[20:19] <USSVoyager> I want to be able to go to a machine, pop a cd or USB drive into it, boot to the network and begin install ubuntu, then pull out the drive or cd and walk away while its installing
[20:19] <mgolisch> adam: it probably just means the terminal is compatible to xterm
[20:19] <austin_> tell me about it.....
[20:19] <Dvyjones> My webcam is being automatically mounted because it can store images. Any idea how to make sure it is *not* mounted?
[20:20] <adam> mgolisch: ah okay, is there anyway to show which terminal i'm using?
[20:20] <mgolisch> adam: gnome-terminal shows xterm as the value of $TERM too
[20:20] <adam> mgolisch: I see I see
[20:20] <Sam_IRC> every few seconds a new question :S
[20:20] <pike_> spideyman: if its that big it might have a rather smaller resolution limit can you take a look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file and make sure that you screen section specifies down to 1024x768?  or just pastebin it and someone here can edit for you
[20:20] <GreenHulk> im just trying to hide my password from the mind police
[20:20] <austin_> buttons1 any idea's?
[20:20] <adam> Sam_IRC: this is good, everyone loves linux!
[20:20] <austin_> or anyone
[20:20] <Buttons1> go to my pm austin
[20:20] <Buttons1> can you see it?
[20:20] <austin_> i dont have perf on my system menu
[20:20] <Sam_IRC> adam: so ture
[20:20] <guntbert> Sam_IRC: do you have a question?
[20:20] <dougiel> n8tuserf, err... I would like to see how much space my mythtv is chewing up... /dev/sda2 is mounted at /home but df does not report...
[20:20] <pike_> spideyman: i want your monitor btw
[20:20] <Sam_IRC> guntbert: yep :D
[20:20] <n8tuserf> USSVoyager -> you did not even took the effort to use google and read about unetbootin
[20:20] <spideyman> pike k thanks i'll try that
[20:21] <dougiel> n8tuserf, sudo df -h = ...
[20:21] <guntbert> !ask | Sam_IRC
[20:21] <djbeenie> hey guys...how can I fix this:  GPG error: http://parker1.co.uk feisty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available
[20:21] <m4rk> good evening ubuntu heads
[20:21] <mgolisch> adam: you can lookup whats the parent of your shell process, pstree shows it
[20:21] <USSVoyager> n8tuserf -->I read about unetbootin
[20:21] <dougiel> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[20:21] <dougiel> /dev/sda5              19G  5.0G   13G  29% /
[20:21] <dougiel> varrun               1014M  248K 1014M   1% /var/run
[20:21] <n8tuserf> dougiel -> are you sure its mounted at /home or below /home?
[20:21] <m4rk> whaT IS this i hear about some bug solving weekend?
[20:21] <USSVoyager> n8tuserf --> I know what it does, which is neat, but not what I want
[20:21] <RockMaster> devex: Kde seems broken to me, doesnt ever work. Like QT is slow to load up compiled with guis so i wouldnt use that. Now, kde likes to destroy gnome/gtk peoples editors. Like that ossi@kde.org dude did
[20:21] <adam> mgolisch: what a great command, pstree
[20:21] <BridgeInhabitant> why is ubuntu causing more and more problems as it is upgraded?
[20:21] <Sam_IRC> ubottu: i never asked to asked one but okay :D. How would i have a sh script run every time my server starts up?
[20:21] <klnusbau> has anyone been having problems with the recent libc6 package upgrade?
[20:21] <Buttons1> dunno
[20:21] <pc> hello, Q about wubi. I'm running Ubuntu installed with  wubi,runs great.  I want to do same with Mint 6. Wil the two conflict?
[20:21] <mike40> ciao
[20:22] <dougiel> n8tuserf, what is the difference - to me at home or under home is the same thing?
[20:22] <n8tuserf> USSVoyager -> the way you describe it, is how unetbootin works
[20:22] <RockMaster> devex: Its deemed he will be wolfed in a big way for dooing that
[20:22] <n8tuserf> dougiel ->  nope if its /home/user1 or /home are two different mount points
[20:22] <lyk3n> CAMERA GUY I can't find your name. use the cameramonitor installable in the synaptic package manager
[20:22] <RockMaster> devex: Could i be missing a package... take a guess ?
[20:23] <adam> mgolisch: My parent is bash--gnome terminal, does this mean I'm using a bash terminal? (shell)
[20:23] <dougiel> n8tuserf, sda2 is mounted /home
[20:23] <devex> RockMaster: hum dunno i didnt install any package besides ubuntu-restricted-extras, kaffeine got all the codecs etc it needed
[20:23] <Rhorse> Sam_IRC, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[20:23] <lyk3n> Dvyjones: use the download camera monitor from the synaptic package manager
[20:23] <n8tuserf> dougiel -> okay, you may want to use a different tool  du,  man du  and man df
[20:23] <djbeenie> can someone tell me where ubuntu list its sources for updates at?
[20:23] <mgolisch> adam: no it means gnome-terminal was started by a bash process probably you started it from another terminal or such
[20:23] <Sam_IRC> Rhorse: thanks
[20:23] <pike_> adam: echo $SHELL in terminal
[20:24] <dougiel> n8tuserf,
[20:24] <dougiel> thanks
[20:24] <GreenHulk> dou gielige
[20:24] <pike_> djbeenie: /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:24] <adam> pike_: states /bin/bash
[20:24] <USSVoyager> yeah unetbootin, still won't work for what I need
[20:24] <djbeenie> pike_, thanks!
[20:24] <Dvyjones> lyk3n: ?
[20:24] <pike_> djbeenie: you need to do a apt-get update to re-read if you edit that file
[20:24] <hajar> hi.. I have a problem in wine .. I try to uninstall the msn massenger but it does not work and computer become very slow to resond
[20:24] <zanberdo> I've run into a problem with sound initialization and gdm.  I've installed and configured qingy and have disabled gdm.  When I log into a gnome session audio is not available.  However, if I return to using gdm audio support is restored.  This appears to be an issue with initialization of the sound system at log in.  Is there a way to force sound to initialize without the need for gdm to load?
[20:24] <Rhorse> Sam_IRC, :)
[20:24] <Spark_rd2> is it possible to run windows on my ubuntu desktop?
[20:24] <pike_> !vm | Spark_rd2
[20:25] <lyk3n> Dvyjones: it is a small program that lets you know when your camera is on
[20:25] <dougiel> n8tuserf, I want to use 'df' the same way I did a week ago and for the past few years... do you know why it does not work?
[20:25] <BridgeInhabitant> mgolisch, I shutdown by pressing the shutdown button as usual
[20:25] <Sam_IRC> Spark_rd2: Dual boot?
[20:25] <m4rk> how do i upgrade my firefox in my xubuntu?
[20:25] <hajar> <Spark_rd2 : yes use virtual machine
[20:25] <Dvyjones> lyk3n: Why would I need that?
[20:25] <tecktonicccccc> http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiItMSHhmc plis +10
[20:25] <tecktonicccccc> http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiItMSHhmc
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[20:25] <tecktonicccccc> http://pl.youtube.com/watch?v=TYiItMSHhmc
[20:25] <FloodBot1> tecktonicccccc: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <modderx> Spark_rd2: virtual machine
[20:25] <quibbler> Spark_rd2: yes with virtualbox
[20:25] <Rhorse> Spark_rd2, vmware
[20:25] <BridgeInhabitant> mgolisch, its awesome that the ubuntu devs are managing to cause even more instabilities on my machine!
[20:25] <lyk3n> Dvyjones: I thought I saw your name asking a camera question, sorry this channel is really flooded and small text
[20:26] <RockMaster> devex: I have to ask what you think about the fact that kde seems to have asked what editor some gtk coders use and then submitted a yapping complaint and a patch so that our editor of choise (GNU/MC) was destroyed (unusable to code with so had to be patched)... with: patch -Np1 -i ../ossi_of_kde_makes_garbled_output.patch
[20:26] <The_Joe_> I'm trying to modernise my desktop - I've replaced my bottom panel with AWN, which comes with a menu but I need some kind of "replacement" for the notification area
[20:26] <mgolisch> BridgeInhabitant: actualy i never saw that on laptops did you realy shutdown? not suspend to disk or something?
[20:26] <The_Joe_> Can anyone suggest anything?
[20:26] <Spark_rd2> modderx: and about parallel plesk? is it possible to install it on ubuntu desktop?
[20:26] <mgolisch> BridgeInhabitant: on desktops its normal mostly as turning off the comp still leaves the mobo powered
[20:27] <mrwoo> does anyone know why I might be getting this error when I run an automake configure script:  malloc: ../bash/dispose_cmd.c:241: assertion botched
[20:27] <RockMaster> devex: This will be fun munchbox :=)
[20:27] <Jack_Sparrow> RockMaster that is more of a discussion question and I direct you to one of the discussion and chat channels
[20:27] <dougiel> 'df' does not work... outputs 6 lines of data and then hangs - does anyone have any suggestions?
[20:27] <Spark_rd2> Rhorse: I tried vmware but its a bit complicate to use
[20:27] <fredorback> aide pour installer webcam medion 96970
[20:27] <devex> RockMaster: i dont run kde, i use gnome and dont care about kde at all :P
[20:27] <RockMaster> Jack_Sparrow: All is well in lizard lands
[20:28] <Pici> !fr | fredorback
[20:28] <BridgeInhabitant> mgolisch, no as I only experience this in 2.6.27-11 and not -9
[20:28] <RockMaster> devex: powerful it is eh ;)
[20:28] <n8tuserf> BridgeInhabitant ->  "I shutdown by pressing the shutdown button as usual"  this is not the SOP for shutting down linux
[20:28] <hajar> hi.. I have a problem in wine .. I try to uninstall the msn massenger but it does not work and computer become very slow to respond
[20:28] <devex> RockMaster: drains lots of ram though compared to fluxbox :<
[20:28] <Pici> hajar: Problems with applications in wine are handled in #winehq
[20:28] <The_Joe_> Eh I can see it's busy - no one should have to answer mundane questions like that, I'll ask elsewhere
[20:28] <GreenHulk> Does the G4 have a ctrl alt backspace for resolution?
[20:28] <ASULutzy> Has anyone tried to use gnome-do with docky? If I try to just do sudo apt-get install gnome-do in intrepid, then docky is not available as one of the options in preferences... If I then sudo apt-get purge gnome-do and instead add the deb lines for gnome-do PPA and do update && install gnome-do, I don't see any way to get into preferences via docky? Anyone had any luck?
[20:28] <mrwoo> hajar: did you know that you can use the IM program pidgin to connect to your MSN messenger account?
[20:28] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuserf, well then -11 might be using a different shutdown script leaving some hardware active
[20:29] <Rhorse> Spark_rd2, never tried it myself. I've heard it's not that hard.
[20:29] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuserf, might should be probably is
[20:29] <hajar> mrwoo: I need offline  message pidgin not provide it
[20:29] <exmachina> i tried using sed 's/\n//g' file to remove new lines but to no avail, anyone?
[20:29] <dougiel> hmm... must have installed Microsoft Ubuntu - df does not work for no apparent reason and has no diagnostic messages - any help would be greatly appreciated?
[20:30] <n8tuserf> BridgeInhabitant -> did you check your bios for these kind of settings?
[20:30] <fredorback> oui mais comment acceder a ubuntu.fr sur xchat?
[20:30] <GreenHulk> dou gielige
[20:30] <_VIM_> OMG ASULutzy i was just bout to ask the same thing, and i just made a digg post about it! LOL
[20:30] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuserf, do you mean WOL?
[20:30] <RockMaster> devex: Yeah, im not Compiz with any desktop so far. Nor the build system. 1 and 2: has too many deps. Several people have made alternate build systems using a few KB of space that will subst like 5 packages from the build chain (That is never consistent... like a war between those)
[20:30] <Rhorse> Spark_rd2, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183209
[20:30] <dougiel> GreenHulk, ?
[20:30] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuserf, my computer can wake from lan but it is disabled in the bios
[20:31] <n8tuserf> exmachina -> something perhaps like  sed 's/\\n$//g'
[20:31] <GreenHulk> you know what that means in german dougie
[20:31] <Spark_rd2> Rhorse: I want to tried the parallele plesk... do you know something about it?
[20:31] <guntbert> dougiel: try df -l (only local file system)
[20:31] <RockMaster> devex: I think we need unity in the Linux coders camps as well, dont you ?
[20:31] <dougiel> guntbert, thanks will do...
[20:31] <Rhorse> Spark_rd2, no
[20:31] <n8tuserf> BridgeInhabitant -> thats one, look around for possible other options
[20:31] <exmachina> n8tuserf, no dice
[20:31] <mrwoo> hajar: this discussion might help you http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=552408
[20:31] <dougiel> GreenHulk, no... ?
[20:31] <GreenHulk> you gaye
[20:32] <n8tuserf> exmachina -> visit #bash for further assistance
[20:32] <guntbert> !ot | GreenHulk , stop that please
[20:33] <Spark_rd2> Rhorse: thx
[20:33] <dougiel> GreenHulk, I am not gay... the only reason I let you touch me there was because you we all fat and ugly in that nice dress and I felt sorry for you - lol
[20:33] <RockMaster> devex: But i feel the microsoft personnel and surrounding firms are behaving evilly so we have to spank those
[20:33] <vigo> RockMaster: Yes, I agree about the unity, yet I disagree to a point about overcoding or bloated code that usually results from such ambitious collaborations...>>>see any Propietarty OS
[20:33] <Buttons1> anyone know how i can disable all mouse buttons except 1 2 and 3?
[20:33] <mrwoo> is anyone having issues with the updates to the libc6 packages?
[20:34] <hajar> mrwoo : thanks
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !buttons
[20:34] <mrwoo> hajar : no problem
[20:34] <Spark_rd2> how can I chech all installed package on my ubuntu?
[20:34] <mrwoo> hajar : hope things work out for you
[20:34] <Rhorse> Buttons1, pry off the offending buttons and cover with masking tape
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[20:34] <mrwoo> Spark_rd2, go to system, adminstrate, and then synaptic package manager
[20:34] <redvamp128> Spark_rd2:  you should be able to go to the synaptic package manager -- then the status on the left then installed.
[20:35] <mgolisch> do ubuntu kernels contain any crashdump facility? i allways wondered why there are analisis utilities like crash but nothing like kdump or netdump or whatever
[20:35] <mgolisch> doesnt ubuntu have anything like that?
[20:35] <gregcha117> my audio isnt working but it shows up under alsamixer in terminal
[20:35] <mgolisch> its realy annoying if you cant trackdown kernel panics
[20:35] <davertron> any one here with postfix on intrepid?
[20:35] <davertron> any one here *familiar* with postfix on intrepid :)
[20:35] <Pici> mgolisch: #ubuntu-kernel may be able to help you better if no one answers in here.
[20:35] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuserf, I have realised the errors of my ways, Uninstalling ubuntu will fix all problems!!!
[20:35] <bojtel> any1 here knows how to burn a 360 image?
[20:36] <guntbert> !anyone
[20:36] <Spark_rd2> mrwoo: yes but this work if the package was installed from there I think
[20:36] <GreenHulk> ya know whats annoying is getting a blue screen everytime you plug in a usb
[20:36] <Buttons1> is it strange that i DO NOT have a InputDevice section inside my xorg.conf file?
[20:36] <Pici> Buttons1: no
[20:36] <Pici> davertron: You may want to try asking in #ubuntu-server as well
[20:36] <n8tuserf> BridgeInhabitant -> your choice
[20:36] <Spark_rd2> but how to uninstall the one I install manually?
[20:36] <redvamp128> davertron:  you could maybe ask in #ubuntu-dev
[20:37] <RockMaster> vigo: I think whatever language should be included into gcc where it belongs (besides bash shell) to enable installing a new dist. Perl is not a consistent choise to build the base with. sed and gawk can do the same things
[20:37] <GreenHulk> Does the gtk iphone work with the touch?
[20:37] <gregcha117> alsamixer recognizes my sound device but under the gnome volume controls theres nothing under output and im not getting any audio, although upon login the login sound plays any ideas?
[20:37] <BridgeInhabitant> n8tuserf, using a distro developed by total n00bs is asking for trouble, I'll have to spend some time configuring a more stable distro but in the end, no n00b developers so WIN
[20:38] <davertron> thanks guys, i'll give it a shot
[20:38] <ASULutzy> _VIM_: I got it figured out if you're there, basically, you can right click on the gnome do icon to get the same functionality, or just type "preferences" it was renamed
[20:38] <Jack_Sparrow> BridgeInhabitant Please drop the commentary
[20:38] <Spark_rd2> sorry... I can find all :)
[20:38] <BCampbell> what's a good app for testing firewire dv cams on 8.10?
[20:38] <Buttons1> how can i determine the "device name" of my mouse?
[20:39] <BridgeInhabitant> Jack_Sparrow, I am sorry
[20:39] <bojtel> does anyone know how to burn a .iso (x360 game) in ubuntu ?
[20:39] <BridgeInhabitant> sorry that n00bs develop ubuntu
[20:39] <Buttons1> lol boj, probably just like you would any iso
[20:39] <viezerd> cdrecord *.iso
[20:39] <md22|work> hello
[20:39] <n8tuserf> BridgeInhabitant -> look into SuSe
[20:39] <GreenHulk> save the iso and right click write to disk
[20:40] <evolish> Hello, I reinstalled my windows which are on a different partition, and now i can't access my ubuntu and im stuck in windows!!!! gurb must have been removed or something!!
[20:40] <bojtel> yes but I want confirmation on that it works without getting banned on xbox live
[20:40] <md22|work> about how much space does the ubuntu install use ?
[20:40] <RockMaster> vigo: I dont like the build system using m4 automake and make much either. Yes its very good most of the time but its not consistent. You would think itd not have to add more stuff that requires "autoreconf" / "autoconf && automake" by now... its 2009, isnt it! :=)
[20:40] <Pici> !fixgrub | evolish
[20:40] <zanberdo> I'm trying to understand how to change the point at which sound is initialized in ubuntu. I'm running intrepid and I've disabled gdm in favor of qingy.  when I log into a gnome session this way I have no sound support.  If i enable gdm and log into a gnome session sound support is enabled.  It appears to be an initialization timing issue. I need to know where/how to change when sound is initialized.
[20:40] <GreenHulk> why doesnt gnash play properly and where is shockwave?
[20:40] <mgolisch> RockMaster: whats bad about that?
[20:41] <mgolisch> it worked for decades why change it?
[20:41] <mgolisch> RockMaster: and this way its ultra flexible
[20:41] <dougiel> GreenHulk, sorry man I was just kidding around = I meant no offence :)
[20:41] <RockMaster> mgolisch: Youll have to patch so many base programs to make a decent cross compile
[20:41] <GrandCouillon> hi guys, on my gnome desktop the applet with the "power" icon (log off, restart, shutdown actions) has disappeared and I can't find it in the "Add to desktop" ... can someone help me ?
[20:41] <evolish> Pici thanks
[20:42] <vigo> RockMaster: Is a tough thing to make a GUI clicky system that is also GNU/GPL, facts are facts.
[20:42] <guntbert> mgolisch: RockMaster your discussion is drifting to off-topic
[20:42] <RockMaster> mgolisch: No, problem could be cross-compilers not working close enough to make base programs work flawlessly with cross compiles (Its small and easy changes)
[20:42] <parsifal_> apt-get install mysql-query-browser  -- ftw!
[20:43] <MrWindex> anyone got a ubuntu app that lets you synth music? like techno stuff?
[20:43] <md22|work> pgadmin3 ftw
[20:43] <mun> hi
[20:43] <Buttons1> how can i determine the device name of my mouse?
[20:43] <RockMaster> guntbert: Its an essential discussion and probably good to have. I see how its not directly related to support? but its derived from it
[20:43] <skoorbevad> lol
[20:44] <mun> if i copy texts using the middle mouse button, is there a keyboard alternative for pasting the copied text?
[20:44] <skoorbevad> swapon(8) - "Swap over NFS may not work."
[20:44] <skoorbevad> thats awfully optimistic
[20:44] <guntbert> RockMaster: I agree to the first part, but there is #ubuntu-offtpic too :)
[20:44] <GreenHulk> overly optimistic
[20:44] <V1k1n9> Plz how can i do to have two languages at the same time on my Ubuntu ?? (I need it to learn an other language thx)
[20:44] <Rhorse> MrWindex, try Studio
[20:44] <kouya> ctrl alt backspace to restart X,  what is "X" ? ^^;
[20:44] <RockMaster> guntbert: Toss skills into crap and never hope to see skills again you mean :=)
[20:45] <GreenHulk> xserver is your video driver
[20:45] <Buttons1> ctrl alt backspace restarts the GUI i believe?
[20:45] <Buttons1> idk muc about it
[20:45] <RockMaster> guntbert: Not likely.
[20:45] <MrWindex> thanks Rhorse!
[20:45] <n8tuserf> kouya -> X server
[20:45] <Rhorse> MrWindex, :)
[20:45] <subsume> ls
[20:45] <subsume> shit
[20:45] <Spark_rd2> how can I install snort on my ubuntu  box?
[20:45] <MrWindex> Rhorse: do you haappen to have the apt-get name, it didn't find the package
[20:45] <redvamp128> !language | subsume
[20:46] <subsume> MrWindex: apt-cache search =)
[20:46] <kouya> guess i could google it, i dont know what x-server is neither :(
[20:46] <GreenHulk> how can i use her snort box like a elephant?
[20:46] <nickrud> kouya, X-server is the bottom most layer of software that provides your desktop
[20:47] <Rhorse> MrWindex, apt-cache search ubuntustudio will give you what you need
[20:47] <RockMaster> vigo: Maybe this can be done better to achieve a rock solid build of the base system. This would help everyone to a greater extent. I would like that, would you ?
[20:47] <nickrud> kouya, http://x.org
[20:48] <maximumbob> This is odd: I'm on Intrepid, trying to install packages python-feedparser and hddtemp, but apt and synaptic say no such package. On ubuntu package search, they both show up as being in intrepid. Ideas?
[20:48] <\kira> maximumbob: just to check, youve dont sudo apt-get update first, right?
[20:48] <RockMaster> GreenHulk: Are you really green ? :)
[20:48] <nickrud> maximumbob, run sudo update-apt-xapian-index
[20:49] <maximumbob> \kira: just did it. Hm. I just ran sudo apt-get install hddtemp again and it worked! But it still doesn't appear in synaptic
[20:49] <vigo> RockMaster: I am going off-topic for this,,,
[20:49] <RockMaster> vigo: we can priv if you like
[20:49] <kouya> thanks!
[20:49] <gregcha117> my audio recently disappeared, alsamixer picks up my sound device but under gnome volume controls ive got no output ?
[20:49] <RockMaster> if you priv me first :=)
[20:49] <Buttons1> i know i keep asking, but how can i determine the device name of my mouse?
[20:49] <\kira> maximumbob: when installing from the command line, you have to do sudo apt-get update first. This updates your local list of packages on the server
[20:49] <skoorbevad> buttons1: /dev/mouse is probably symlinked to it
[20:50] <Buttons1> k let me try it, thx
[20:50] <mmm4m5m> pls a little help: can I move svn repository with simple copy?
[20:50] <maximumbob> \kira: I still figure it should have been in there before, since ubuntu package search shows them both being added in october for II. They still don't appear in synaptic though.
[20:50] <skoorbevad> gregcha117: try stopping pulseaudio, it's a piece of shit
[20:50] <maximumbob> (though both installed from command line now)
[20:50] <gregcha117> skoorbevad: how do i do that?
[20:50] <\kira> maximumbob: I cant help you there, I dont run inbex yet :| Sorry
[20:50] <skoorbevad> sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop
[20:50] <ezerhoden> Buttons1: ls /dev/input/mouse*
[20:50] <bojtel> does any1 here burn xb 360 games in ubuntu?
[20:50] <nickrud> maximumbob, have you run the update command I gave you yet?
[20:51] <ezerhoden> Buttons1: then cat /dev/input/mouse0 and move mouse, then try next
[20:51] <maximumbob> nickrud: yes and I the packages became available and I installed them. They've also now both magically reappeared in synaptic. thanks for the help
[20:52] <AndreasMadrid> Hi! Is there an easy way to have a progrma start on each system startup, NO MATTER which USER started the computer? But at the same time not granting read access to the program's directory for all users?
[20:52] <AndreasMadrid> i tried /etc/xdg/autostart but it doens't work the way i wanted it to
[20:52] <\kira> AndreasMadrid: cron job?
[20:52] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, you can use /etc/rc.local to start programs ... they're run as root
[20:52] <AndreasMadrid> kira: how do i do that?
[20:53] <\kira> AndreasMadrid: you could have a script to check every minute if the program you want is running, then if its not, start it
[20:53] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: the program itself can be in /home/me ?
[20:53] <ezerhoden> Buttons1: hmm, cat /dev/input/mouse* does not seem to work
[20:53] <Rhorse> AndreasMadrid, , http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/07/adding-a-startup-script-to-be-run-at-bootup/
[20:53] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, it can be anywhere; but if it's a gui program rc.local isn't the right place.
[20:53] <\kira> AndreasMadrid: but nickrud might have a better Idea
[20:53] <tim167> how can i split up a big file over several zip files and rejoin them afterwards ?
[20:54] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud no, no gui, but a localhost-page
[20:54] <AndreasMadrid> thank you nickrud, \kira and Rhorse
[20:54] <Rhorse> AndreasMadrid, the startup script of your desktop should be where to look
[20:54] <\kira> AndreasMadrid: any time :)
[20:54] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, with the little you've said about the program itself, I'm not sure. But it's an option
[20:55] <Caglar> hi every one
[20:55] <Caglar> how can i disable fsck?
[20:55] <nickrud> tim167, you can use the split command, and cat to rejoin
[20:55] <kouya> anyone how play FFXI with WINE here?
[20:55] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: actially it's an i2p router. Dunno if you heard about i2p
[20:55] <Caglar> p.s. fstab says read-only file system
[20:55] <GreenHulk> fsck is disabled by default in reiserfs
[20:56] <Caglar> GreenHulk: i'm using ext3
[20:56] <AndreasMadrid> and read that i can do it with /etc/xdg/autostart but as the prog is in my home directory and other users have no reading rights it didn't work
[20:56] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, not positively; but if it's a system wide, root run program rc.local would work
[20:56] <Caglar> ok i will try AndreasMadrid
[20:56] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, you might want to move it to /usr/local/bin then
[20:57] <Rhorse> AndreasMadrid, start it with gksudo?
[20:57] <GreenHulk> 40yrs old and counting
[20:57] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud i simply copy a self-written script that starts the prog in my home directory to /etc/init.d ?  Or does it need to have a special form, the script?
[20:58] <tim167> nickrud: what would the cat command look like? just cat file1 file2 file3 > destinationfile ?
[20:58] <dangerduck> Ubuntu + games XD = SHIT XD
[20:58] <AndreasMadrid> Rhorse: it needs only a /home/me/i2p/i2psouter start
[20:58] <Pici> dangerduck: Watch your language, that is uncalled for here./
[20:58] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, yes; /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup has a really simple format that probably can be adapted easily
[20:58] <sockets> where is "fontconfig" in hardy?.. i can't find it.
[20:59] <dangerduck> Pici sorry but don't say i don't have wright
[20:59] <GreenHulk> What if the intro was the game?
[20:59] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, then you'd run sudo update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults to link it properly for start/stop
[20:59] <Pici> !guidelines > dangerduck
[20:59] <kouya> i have a problem with the FFXI PlayOnline viewer, when I 'wine pol.exe' it looks like the game vil run like normal, but the playonline window is black and nothing happens after.
[20:59] <vigo> sockets: System>Preferance
[20:59] <Pici> dangerduck: This channel still has rules
[20:59] <windmill> ages ago I set up the gnome so that when I press the windows key it brings up a terminal, I can;t now remember how I set this or how to change it back.  any help?
[20:59] <catfacts> i have a ubuntu desktop computer and im using it as a server, i've had vnc running and it works fine but recently when i try to connect it just sits and hangs indef. but never errors out either
[20:59] <dangerduck> i saw it XD
[21:00] <catfacts> I dont have a monitor to put on it and i really need to access the gui
[21:00] <dangerduck> i won't talk dirty any more
[21:00] <AndreasMadrid> ups, i mixed up things. you had sair rc.local.  Here rc.local is just a fiel, not a dir
[21:00] <quibbler> sockets: system-preferences-appearance-font
[21:00] <azerlmf> hi there
[21:00] <catfacts> any clue on how to get vnc to connect
[21:00] <nickrud> windmill, system->prefs->keyboard shortcuts ; but assigning terminal to the win key isn't a good idea anymore since the win key is used as a modifer by compiz extensively
[21:00] <catfacts> i can ssh fine
[21:01] <AndreasMadrid> ok, i'll try with  /etc/init.d/screen-cleanup
[21:01] <MK-ubuntu> guys,
[21:01] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, yes, you can either call the script from there or copy the script into that file
[21:01] <MK-ubuntu> what do you guys use to watch avi, or movie?
[21:01] <mneptok> MK-ubuntu: Totem
[21:01] <ardchoille> MK-ubuntu: I use mplayer
[21:01] <quibbler> MK-ubuntu: vlc
[21:02] <mneptok> MK-ubuntu: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[21:02] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, two separate ways to get the same result. the init.d method is 'better', but the rc.local works just fine
[21:02] <windmill> nickrud, thanks, I am trying to change it back, it still seems to work even after I unset it, do I need to log out?
[21:02] <redvamp128> MK-ubuntu: though you may have to install w32codecs
[21:02] <Pici> !players > MK-ubuntu
[21:02] <anars> I have SSH access to a server, on which I'm able to launch a Django test webserver (it listens on localhost:8000 on that server). is there anyway I can make my client computer access that using a combo of SSH tunnels?
[21:02] <nickrud> windmill, you shouldn't.
[21:02] <MK-ubuntu> my players hav this this weird thing,
[21:02] <MK-ubuntu> where
[21:02] <MK-ubuntu> it just shows as weird color balences.
[21:03] <domherre> I cant fast skip in H.264 file in mplayer other codecs works fine however any ideas?
[21:03] <windmill> it says Run a terminal: disabled, but still brings up a table when I press windows key
[21:03] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud i then prefer init.d because i don't know what to do in rc.local, for it says i need to change execution bits. dunno what this is. but if init.d works as fine, i'll tak that one. so no need for me to ask too much ... ;-)
[21:04] <anars> I have SSH access to a server, on which I'm able to launch a Django test webserver (it listens on localhost:8000 on that server). is there anyway I can make my client computer access that using a combo of SSH tunnels?
[21:04] <Pici> anars: ./manage.py runserver 0.0.0.0:8000    will allow anyone to access it, not just localhost.
[21:05] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud is there a special place in screen-cleanup where i should enter the call of my script?
[21:05] <SiDi> Is there anyone using packages from PPA's here ?
[21:05] <S7UMPY> whats the command to view my broken filters?
[21:05] <ardchoille> SiDi: Probably many of us
[21:05] <Laurenceb> hi, ?I have acess to a machine using ssh, and I want to download a very large file thats been compressed using rar. I dont have root acess on the remote machine
[21:05] <Laurenceb> whats the best way to do this?
[21:06] <Laurenceb> the file is several GB
[21:06] <Laurenceb> theres no unrar on the remote machine
[21:06] <ardchoille> !rar | Laurenceb
[21:06] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud before or after "esac"?
[21:06] <anars> Pici: the thing is I don't have permissions to run anything on that server, that opens sockets on anything else than localhost. I'm aware of the `ssh -L ...` command which I think is the right way to go.
[21:06] <Laurenceb> I dont have root
[21:06] <windmill> nickrud, just for you info I did have to log out and in again
[21:06] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, you would use the section between start) and ;; to run your script
[21:06] <Laurenceb> cant install anything on the machine
[21:06] <ardchoille> Laurenceb: Ah, missed that
[21:06] <zanberdo> Is there a way to add a text-console session to the available list of session for gdm?
[21:06] <Pici> Laurenceb: scp? curl?
[21:07] <nickrud> windmill, I was testing it here; didn't need to log out ;(
[21:07] <ardchoille> Laurenceb: download it on the remote and then scp it to the local?
[21:07] <Pici> anars: I dont know then, sorry.
[21:07] <Laurenceb> oh i forgot to say
[21:07] <windmill> nickrud, strange
[21:07] <anars> Pici: no worries. thanks though.
[21:07] <Laurenceb> there a network drive acessable only through the remote machine
[21:07] <askand> Is there a way I can use two computers as one with the help of wifi? e.g two screens?
[21:07] <windmill> nickrud, at least it works now
[21:07] <SiDi> ardchoille: i received a mail from launchpad notifying of changes about the PGP keys for PPA repositories, and since when i tried to run the update manager, i was getting thrown away
[21:07] <pike_> !sftp | Laurenceb
[21:07] <Laurenceb> I want to save on there
[21:07] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud ok thank you
[21:07] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, that is, replace the stuff that is already there. You will need to make a copy and rename it
[21:07] <AndreasMadrid> done
[21:07] <Laurenceb> can I still use scp or curl?
[21:07] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, you don't want to get screen-cleanup mixed up with what you are doing
[21:07] <n8tuserf> Laurenceb -> before you transfer over to remote, make the file a tar or cpio format instead of rar
[21:08] <Laurenceb> ok
[21:08] <Laurenceb> so I'll have to unrar it here
[21:08] <Laurenceb> then tar it
[21:08] <Laurenceb> then send it
[21:08] <Pici> !enter
[21:08] <ardchoille> Laurenceb: yes
[21:08] <Laurenceb> right
[21:08] <ardchoille> Laurenceb: But use .tar.bz2 for a smaller file
[21:08] <m4rk> wot
[21:09] <Laurenceb> thanks for hte help
[21:09] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud after ";;" there is more. Do i keep it or delete it? (stop|restart|reload|force-reload))
[21:10] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, keep it.
[21:10] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, you are doing this to a fresh copy of screen-cleanup, correct?
[21:10] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, and you will be saving it as different file name in /etc/init.d
[21:10] <MK-ubuntu> ill try that
[21:10] <MK-ubuntu> and come back
[21:10] <eMaX> hi all
[21:11] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud i opened screen-cleanup in init.d and changed it and saved with another name
[21:11] <AndreasMadrid> yes
[21:11] <nickrud> good, just wanted you to say it aloud :)
[21:11] <AndreasMadrid> :-)
[21:12] <Laurenceb> we're no strangers to love, you know the rules and so do I
[21:12] <AndreasMadrid> I also keep "set -e"  and "Screendir=/var/run/screen"?
[21:12] <eMaX> I'm extending my root drive - I've created a second drive and created the same partition scheme with just the / partition being bigger. I then copied, using -a, all from, say, sda1 to sdc1 and recreated /proc. then I did dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdc bs=446 count=1 to transfer the boot sector. then I swapped the drives and get GRUB: Hard Disk Error. Any ideas?
[21:12] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, set -e, yes, but all the screen stuff can be removed
[21:12] <MikyMouse> Hi
[21:13] <m4rk> hi MikyMouse
[21:13] <nickrud> the INIT INFO can be altered to taste, as well. It should not be left as is. Blank is fine
[21:13] <Cpplus> eMaX, have you tried configuring grub again, with root and setup
[21:13] <MikyMouse> Anyone who uses Cinerella? How are th epictures inserted into the tracks?? I am sick of tired of draging them from resources, of pasting them bu they dont stick there
[21:14] <AndreasMadrid> nickurid and i keep esac and exit 0, i suppose?
[21:14] <eMaX> Cpplus what I have is that I have sdc1 mounted to /mnt/tmp while sda1 is still mounted to /
[21:14] <AndreasMadrid> if so, then everything's done
[21:14] <AndreasMadrid> :-)
[21:14] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, yep. This is a very simple script.
[21:14] <jansen> can anyone help me to configure Encore - ENM232- sound driver for linux?? i only found linux one
[21:14] <eMaX> Cpplus, now how do I set up grub so that it installs itself on the new drive
[21:15] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, you can install abs-guide, and find a manual at /usr/share/doc/abs-guide which will give you an idea of what this script does
[21:15] <eMaX> Cpplus, I've tried to chroot to /mnt/tmp and run grub from there. I've also tried grub-install --recheck /dev/sdc but that didn't help, it just wrote additional lines into device.map
[21:15] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: well, not to simple for me. I'ma noob. My scripts only contain "mkdir" "rm" and "cd" and calling other programs
[21:15] <AndreasMadrid> ok
[21:15] <AndreasMadrid> i will try
[21:15] <AndreasMadrid> thank you,  nickrud
[21:15] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, you've only added one more to your list of known stuff then: case :)
[21:15] <pike_> eMaX: just sudo grub and then root (sda1)  then setup (sda)  to rewrite the mbr where sda1 is whatever partition containing /boot and sda or sdb is whatever driver mbr you wish to rewrite
[21:16] <eMaX> pike_,  my /new/ harddrive is sdc so I assume root (sdc1) and setup (sdc) ?
[21:16] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, a couple other things, but first put your script on http://paste.ubuntu.com so I can look for obvious stuff. Then we'll make it executable, and then set it up for running on boot
[21:16] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: seen stuff. but not really understood. i think it's liek an if, but dunno what $1 means. anyway, my script is made
[21:16] <AndreasMadrid> ah
[21:16] <AndreasMadrid> ok
[21:16] <Phaqui> Having trouble with the Realtek Rtl8187b wireless card on 8.10, it seems to work, it shows signal strength, and sometimes I can even get the title of web pages, but it seems so terribly unstalbe and slow.. any suggestions?
[21:17] <pike_> eMaX: assuming thats the hard drive that is booted by your bios yeah.
[21:17] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, the $1 is substituted by the first command given. Like /etc/init.d/<scriptname> start , or stop, or reload, etc.
[21:17] <pike_> depends on boot order
[21:17] <eMaX> pike_, for the moment it is sda, but I've another drive sdc to which I am migrating. That one is sdc
[21:17] <eMaX> if I try root (sdc1) it says Error 23: Error while parsing number
[21:17] <jansen> can anyone help me to configure Encore - ENM232- sound driver for linux?? i only found linux one
[21:18] <pike_> eMaX: k. that should be it. once you know those commands grub becomes pretty trivial
[21:18] <MK-ubuntu> mneptok: what was that you told me to do?
[21:18] <Droopsta915> how can I access my Linux files using Virtual Box
[21:18] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111868/
[21:19] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: but home/andy is only readable for andy. Or can root read everything?
[21:19] <tweak66> when I add my firewall program in startup-manager, it always asks me for my password on boot, so i have to enter it twice. how can i use my firewall at startup w/o entering a password
[21:19] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, I'd change the Short-Description, and line 4 as well. And root is god, it can read anything
[21:20] <nickrud> tweak66, are you using firestarter? if so, you don't have to run the gui. The firewall settings are automatically started when the interface comes up.
[21:20] <eMaX> pike_, ok maybe root (hd2,0) then setup (hd2)
[21:20] <pike_> eMaX: ah sorry its 0 instead of a so root (hd0,0)
[21:20] <pike_> heh yeah
[21:21] <tweak66> nickrud: yes firestarter. so it's running at startup even without me adding it in?
[21:21] <MikyMouse> CINELERRA, anyone?
[21:21] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: "i2p starter" is just another script. Easier to change it from my home directory.
[21:21] <eMaX> LOL
[21:21] <eMaX> now it tells me "selected disk does not exist" -
[21:22] <eMaX> ok
[21:22] <eMaX> now that was a stupid menu.lst entry
[21:22] <nickrud> tweak66, yes. Firestarter creates rules that are used by the networking system. The gui is just a nice thing to alter them, only needed when you alter them.
[21:22] <dhalsimm> hi all, I've been using eclipse europa 3.1 or something, then I installed the new eclipse "ganymede" on my ubuntu 8.10 machine but software update feature isn't working now. I can't find any problem related to this on net
[21:22] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: required start and requiered stop remain the way they were?
[21:22] <tweak66> nickrud:oh ok thanks. :) So it is using a firewall regardless
[21:22] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, ok, now    sudo chmod +x /etc/init.d/script-name
[21:23] <nickrud> tweak66, you can double check by running   sudo iptables -L , the rules will be printed out in the terminal.
[21:23] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud:  that does what?
[21:23] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: hm i had the repo version fail for allmost all software updates and stuff, i allways install a eclipse from their website in my homedirectory
[21:23] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, makes the new script you created e'x'ecutable
[21:23] <jiffe89> how does one determine what version of ubuntu you're running from command line (ie 8.04.2?)
[21:23] <AndreasMadrid> ah
[21:24] <tweak66> thanks nickrud! :)
[21:24] <dhalsimm> mgolisch: so do I. Europa was (is) still working but the new version sucks now
[21:24] <soundray> !version | jiffe89
[21:24] <ezerhoden> jiffe89: lsb_release -a
[21:24] <mneptok> jiffe89: lsb_releae -a
[21:24] <ezerhoden> jinx
[21:25] <AndreasMadrid> changed the description: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111870/
[21:25] <mneptok> ezerhoden: not.
[21:25]  * mneptok typo'ed ;)
[21:25] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, ok, now run sudo /etc/init.d/script-name start , to check it works
[21:25] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud done the chmod
[21:25] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, ^^
[21:25] <ir1> hi
[21:25] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: have no problem with it
[21:26] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud, ok, then i first have to stop the router. it's running already
[21:26] <dhalsimm> mgolisch: which version are you running?
[21:26] <dou213> can somebody help me with mysqld ?? Error: http://pastebin.com/d2c1b4524
[21:26] <ir1> i have some questions regarding the update manager
[21:26] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: Version: 3.4.1
[21:26] <marcin> kk
[21:26] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: i got the std java ee version and installed all aditional stuff i need using the software update feature
[21:26] <ir1> i keep getting errors when i try to install updates.....does anyone know why that occurs?
[21:27] <Stanlin> Help!!
[21:27] <Stanlin> Help!! how to configure the athero wifi card?
[21:27] <Wintervenom> Is there a media player that can put visualizations on the desktop?
[21:27] <SiDi> ir1: what kind of errors ?
[21:27] <Stanlin> !wifi
[21:27] <soundray> ir1: please run 'sudo apt-get -f install' and put the output on the pastebin
[21:27] <nickrud> ir1, really depends on the errors
[21:27] <Stanlin> !atheros
[21:27] <dhalsimm> mgolisch: was update progress slow?
[21:27] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: it works  :-)
[21:27] <Ingenium13> anyone else having problems with jockey after the kernel update pushed out last night?
[21:27] <soundray> !pastebin | ir1
[21:28] <Guest73577> I'm having trouble installing playerstage on 8.10, has anyone gotten it working?
[21:28] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, ok, now   sudo update-rc.d script-name defaults . That will hook your new script into the bootup sequence, so it will be run automatically
[21:28] <howlingmadhowie> hello #ubuntu :)
[21:29] <ir1> alright....here's the list of errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111871/
[21:29] <failure> how do you stop a raid, when it says the that device /dev/md0 is busy?
[21:29] <Stanlin> !msi
[21:29] <Stanlin> !msiwind
[21:29] <ubuntu__> salut
[21:29] <Stanlin> !eee
[21:30] <howlingmadhowie> ir1: is a server down?
[21:30] <v> du bist bl"od
[21:30] <failure> im trying to convert my software raid back into standard form so i can convert it to a virtual machine.
[21:30] <oinc> why the firefox browser chashs all the time?
[21:30] <nickrud> ir1, what is binary-lpia ?
[21:30] <riclas> how does one remove kernel entries from the grub loader??
[21:30] <failure> but when i run mdadm --stop /dev/md0, it says that the device or resource is busy
[21:30] <ir1> not sure.....im new to the ubuntu system....so have been trying to find out, but no clue so far
[21:30] <howlingmadhowie> failure: if it weren't a raid i'd use lsof to see if anything has the device open
[21:30] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud ok, that gave me this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111872/
[21:30] <soundray> ir1: is this a fresh installation?
[21:30] <failure> a lot of stuff does.
[21:30] <howlingmadhowie> ir1: has the repository ever worked before?
[21:31] <SiDi> ir1: i get exactly the same error today. I think a server is down
[21:31] <ir1> hmm.....ok
[21:31] <SiDi> howlingmadhowie: soundray it's somehow related to launchpad PPA's keyserver
[21:31] <ir1> but ive been getting similar errors before
[21:31] <failure> how do i completely stop the raid so i can unmount it? i turned the mdmonitor off.
[21:31] <ir1> maybe the first time when i ran the updates....it went through fine
[21:31] <ir1> after that the errors began appearing
[21:31] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: it's pretty complicated all this. why isn't it possible to simply have a directory with all it's contens (scripts, links9 being executed on startup, without so many commands
[21:32] <SiDi> ir1: do you mind putting the content of "/etc/apt/sources.list" in pastebin, please ? I think you got a PPA repository inside it
[21:32] <soundray> ir1: did you reboot after the updates?
[21:32] <mgolisch> dhalsimm: not realy
[21:32] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, the rcS.d line is interesting, try a reboot. And it's not all that complex. It's just a very flexible system for starting up stuff on boot
[21:33] <ir1> ok
[21:33] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: if someday i would like to remove it. i simply delete the file?
[21:33] <ir1> yeah
[21:33] <howlingmadhowie> failure: i only know that error message meaning that some process is still using the drive or partition. you can check to see which process that is by entering lsof /dev/whichever_node_it_is
[21:33] <ir1> ive tried rebooting but still that doesnt fix the errors
[21:33] <Stanlin> help, how to make the wifi work on MSI WIND?
[21:33] <diffred> is youtube working for you guys? mine not loading :S
[21:33] <failure> im not showing anything using it
[21:33] <ir1> gimme a sec....ill show the stuff
[21:33] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, pretty much. sudo update-rc.d remove -f scriptname to remove the startup links  as well
[21:33] <oinc> why the firefox browser chashs all the time? In some way my paginator close and some programs. I really don't know what to do.
[21:33] <dhalsimm> mgolisch: for about 5 minutes it's: fetching children of http://download.eclipse.org/modeling/mdt/updates/releases/
[21:34] <howlingmadhowie> diffred: it's working fine for me atm
[21:34] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, sudo update-rc.d -f scriptname remove that is, gotta get syntax correct :)
[21:34] <peepsalot> is there any similar GUI app to gnome-system-monitor
[21:34] <soundray> ir1: perhaps you should just listen to SiDi and wait for that server to come back
[21:34] <oinc> I have already try to lookup my system determinated to seek some rootkit or sniffer
[21:34] <SiDi> ir1: recently launchpad made changes related to their GPG keys servers, those used for checking the authenticity of the files on their repositories
[21:34] <howlingmadhowie> failure: then i'm afraid i can't help. i don't know anything about raid arrays :(
[21:34] <XB23> when i do  apt-get autoremove  it removes packages that i still need, is there a way to clear it so it wont remove things i still need?
[21:34] <diffred> howlingmadhowie: quite strange, all rest of webpages working but youtube :S
[21:34] <ir1> the errors have been coming up for me for about a month now
[21:35] <SiDi> ir1: i'm currently getting you the doc on their site that explains how to add GPG keys to avoid those problems. Please pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list by the meanwhile
[21:35] <nickrud> those aren't ppa errors, they are looking for binary-lpia and I've never seen that before
[21:35] <riclas> how does one remove kernel entries from the grub loader??
[21:35] <yowshi> there ouhgt to be a quicker way to restart the sound drivers then using lsof to find and kill everything thats using them
[21:35] <yowshi> does anyone know of a better way?
[21:35] <rsc-> what's a good rolling-release distro?
[21:35] <eyehatesludge> does anyone here want to deal with a complete linux noob and explain to me how to compile programs from source
[21:35] <howlingmadhowie> diffred: it may be that a particular server is down. i've noticed that sometimes one video refuses to load while others work fine
[21:35] <rsc-> i'd want to try something esle after ubuntu.
[21:35] <mcandertoad> riclas, you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[21:35] <nickrud> riclas, the best way is to remove the kernel images with synaptic. You should keep at least the current and most recent, Just In Case
[21:35] <Rhorse> eyehatesludge, don't do it
[21:36] <eyehatesludge> the binary doesnt work very well
[21:36] <Luke90> Hello there. Can someone help me with CPU scaling on Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 on Ubuntu Intrepid 32 bit? It seems that the system doesn't scale at all
[21:36] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: why is the line with rcS.d interesting?
[21:36] <howlingmadhowie> eyehatesludge: unless you've searched the repositories and then the net for a deb file, don't!
[21:36] <XB23> when i do  apt-get autoremove  it removes packages that i still need, is there a way to clear it so it wont remove things i still need?
[21:36] <riclas> ahhh ok thx nickrud
[21:36] <eyehatesludge> the deb file didnt work right
[21:36] <SiDi> rsc-: i recommand xubuntu -.-
[21:36] <nickrud> !compiling | eyehatesludge (and you shouldn't need to compile anything in ubuntu)
[21:36] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: so this with init.d is the same as if i had done it in rc.local? or is one more root than the other?
[21:36] <rsc-> sidi, i'd want to try a distro where i dont have to wait 6 months to upgrade a piece of software. -_-
[21:36] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, I'd expected some rc2.d, rc3.d, rc4.d and rc5.d links
[21:36] <howlingmadhowie> eyehatesludge: have you looked for a backport for the package?
[21:37] <Rhorse> eyehatesludge, what deb file?
[21:37] <eyehatesludge> zsnes
[21:37] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, rc.local is a kludge; using init.d is 'proper'
[21:37] <_VIM_> rsc-: maybe Arch or Gentoo then
[21:37] <eyehatesludge> and whats a backport?
[21:37] <howlingmadhowie> rsc-: i think gentoo works like that
[21:37] <rsc-> cool okay
[21:37] <rsc-> :)
[21:37] <GreenHulk> iPlug
[21:37] <_VIM_> !backports
[21:37] <nickrud> !info zsnes | eyehatesludge
[21:37] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: :-)  so the rcS  means a problem?
[21:37] <picca> anyone here remember the kernel parameter to exclude modules from being loaded
[21:37] <soundray> Luke90: how do you check your frequency?
[21:37] <picca> certain modules that is
[21:37] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, it shouldn't be, but a boot test is in order just in case
[21:37] <eyehatesludge> i downloaded the package using sudo apt-get install zsnes and half of the things in it didnt work so im trying to install from source
[21:38] <nickrud> ah
[21:38] <eyehatesludge> and i dont understand that article on the ubuntu site because i know absolutely nothing about linux and just isntalled this a couple of weeks ago
[21:38] <Luke90> soundtray: i tried with the applet in the panel but i get an error
[21:38] <howlingmadhowie> eyehatesludge: which version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:38] <AndreasMadrid> ok, gotta close some things and then i'll reboot
[21:38] <eyehatesludge> 8.10
[21:38] <ir1> sidi: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111873/
[21:38] <Luke90> sountray: i tried with the applet in the panel but i get an error
[21:38] <Rhorse> eyehatesludge, please provide more information
[21:38] <Luke90> soundray: i tried with the applet in the panel but i get an error
[21:39] <yowshi> anyone know of a quick command to restart/unjam the sound drivers in linux
[21:39] <eyehatesludge> about what
[21:39] <_VIM_> Anyone here using Gnome-Do? I cant get the dock to work its supposed to be listed under themes but i only see Classic, Glass, and Mini. Not Docky.. (Ubuntu 8.04.2)
[21:39] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: i should delete the file i put into /etc/xdg/autotart before, shouldn't i?
[21:39] <miha> hello how can i see which ati driver version i have? trying skype beta video.. and says if it crashes, check version
[21:39] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, yes
[21:39] <howlingmadhowie> eyehatesludge: i'm afraid i've never tried zsnes, so i can't help :(
[21:39] <SiDi> ir1: http://news.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu read this
[21:39] <soundray> Luke90: what frequency does cat /proc/cpuinfo report?
[21:39] <eyehatesludge> is there a simpler tutorial for installing things from source for somebody who knows nothing about linux
[21:39] <nickrud> ir1, that's why I don't recognize the binary-lpia file
[21:39] <howlingmadhowie> soundray: the current frequency
[21:39] <oinc> why the firefox browser chashs all the time? In some way my paginator close and some programs to. I have already try to lookup my system determinated to search and find some rootkits or sniffers... I don't find anything.
[21:39] <redvamp128> yowshi:  try this command sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[21:40] <soundray> howlingmadhowie: I know, that's why I'm asking Luke90 for the number
[21:40] <redvamp128> yowshi:  that shoudl restart he sound if you are using alsa
[21:40] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: whats the actual difference between /etc/init.d and  /etc/xdg/autostart ??  Aren't both for automatic start at system startup for all users?
[21:40] <howlingmadhowie> eyehatesludge: installing stuff from source can be a real pain.
[21:40] <_VIM_> oinc: i think it's spelled 'crashes' :)
[21:40] <howlingmadhowie> soundray: oh, sorry :) misunderstood you there :)
[21:40] <Luke90> soundray: 1.86Ghz
[21:40] <oinc> _VIM_, correct
[21:40] <cedric_> hello
[21:41] <SiDi> ir1: more instructions here for how to install the GPG key for the OpenOffice repository : https://launchpad.net/~openoffice-pkgs/+archive/ppa and then you won't have the error message anymore
[21:41] <yowshi> redvamp128: ok i urn alsa but there are several things on ubuntu that run on esd as you can find by using lsof |grep esd
[21:41] <miha> hello how can i see which ati driver version i have? trying skype beta video.. and says if it crashes, check version of ati-drivers
[21:41] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, the first is the 'old school' system V unix startup; xdg is new and intended to be for desktop stuff.
[21:41] <SiDi> oinc: when does it crash ? isn't it linked to flash/java sites ?
[21:41] <oinc> SiDi, most like every web site
[21:41] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, and that's about all I know about the xdg startup stuff :)
[21:41] <ir1> there was some issue with open office actually....i tried to do an upgrade to 3.0 but it never completed so couldnt finish it
[21:41] <soundray> Luke90: do you have any processes hogging the CPU? You can check with top
[21:42] <SiDi> oinc: ouch :/ did you try to run firefox in safe-mode ?
[21:42] <oinc> no
[21:42] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: i can only tell that it started the prog if I logged in as user but not when another user started the comp
[21:42] <AndreasMadrid> well, time for reboot
[21:42] <AndreasMadrid> cya
[21:42] <ir1> and i believe instead it corrupted the 2.4 open office on my comp. so after some testing, i was able to get open office back on here
[21:42] <Luke90> soundray: no i don't, just booted
[21:42] <ir1> but still am not able to upgrade it
[21:43] <SiDi> ir1: the repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list is for intrepid and you seem to be using hardy. I highly recommand you to download OOo from openoffice.org's website instead of using a repository that is not designed for your version
[21:43] <fredguy> hey guys. could someone provide me (via pastbin or something) the default sources.list for ibex?
[21:43] <bobbob1016> I'm not getting sound "aplay -l" lists my hardware, but no sound, any ideas?
[21:43] <nickrud> ir1, there's a hardy repo on the ppa by the way
[21:43] <soundray> Luke90: it's worth checking anyway -- it might be the indexing
[21:43] <ir1> wait.....download what from the open office website
[21:43] <Luke90> soundray tracker is now inactive
[21:44] <ir1> ?
[21:44] <GreenHulk> male chicken legos are obnoxious
[21:44] <nickrud> fredguy, the easiest way is:  sudo mv /etc/apt/sources.list ~/Desktop , then do the following factoid:
[21:44] <SiDi> http://www.mibbit.com/pb/jVCSdQ fredguy it looks like that for french intrepid
[21:44] <oinc> SiDi, I'm gonna reinstall the adobe flash
[21:44] <nickrud> !hardysources | fredguy (good for intrepid)
[21:44] <howlingmadhowie> ir1: you can download the .deb-files from the open-office website. but as nickrud mentioned, there is a repository for OOo3 and hardy too
[21:44] <pike_> fredguy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources may help
[21:44] <keres> how do you change the default kernel that is loaded on startup?
[21:44] <lucifer_Star> Need some help? any isea how to install flash on ubuntu x64 and also pfd reader... thanks for any help
[21:44] <soundray> Luke90: you don't want to run top quickly, just to check?
[21:45] <nickrud> and the guy that runs that ppa is pretty trustworthy :)
[21:45] <pike_> fredguy: nm that link is gui crap
[21:45] <robertz> is Cheese Webcam Booth the best webcam software for Ubuntu?
[21:45] <oinc> SiDi, it craches again
[21:45] <SiDi> ir1: instead of trying to download OOo3.01 for Intrepid (it's what you're doing when adding the launchpad repository to your /etc/apt/sources.list), you should DL OOo 3 on http://www.openoffice.org and install it manually, less risky for you
[21:45] <ir1> ok......im a bit confused, but ill figure it out. all this is very new to me as i havent used a linux os before...
[21:45] <lvlefisto> once a partition is made on hard disk, can i change the mount point using gparted?
[21:45] <SiDi> ir1: but as howlingmadhowie just said there's a repository for hardy, sorry, didn't know :P Just replace the word "intrepid" by "hardy" in your /etc/apt/sources.list then
[21:45] <fredguy> nickrud: i was actually looking for a text copy of them
[21:46] <ir1> ok
[21:46] <nickrud> fredguy, that mibbit link is usable, for french servers.
[21:46] <GreenHulk> oh wow is that all i had to do?
[21:46] <ir1> thanks :)
[21:46] <SiDi> ir1: and visit the link i gave you in order to add the launchpad authentification key so that the update manager won't complain it's missing ;)
[21:46] <robertz> is Cheese Webcam Booth the best webcam software for Ubuntu?
[21:46] <dementia_> should I run my /home from a separate partition so reinstalling will be easier?
[21:47] <GreenHulk> i need a sippy cup and hulk nipples
[21:47] <daedra> what would you say was the fastest booting live linux distro?
[21:47] <ir1> ok
[21:47] <redvamp128> riclas:  use the sudo gedit then look for menu.1st
[21:47] <howlingmadhowie> dementia_: generally yes
[21:47] <soundray> dementia_: there are pro and con arguments -- I think it's a good idea
[21:47] <dementia_> daedra I've heard Xubuntu is pretty quick
[21:47] <victorbrca> Anyone works with Solaris?
[21:47] <howlingmadhowie> daedra: damnsmalllinux is quite a bit faster, but it's a minimal distro
[21:48] <ir1> just wondering.....is there any way u could explain why those errors were occuring (possibly in layman terms?)?
[21:48] <MikyMouse> I installed cinerella and the updater started to download linux kernel dependencies, etc.. and installing WTH is this_
[21:48] <fredguy> SiDi: unfortunately i speak english
[21:48] <SiDi> dementia_: Xubuntu's apps are more responsive because lighter, but Xubuntu's user interface is slightly less complete than ubuntu's one.
[21:48] <daedra> howlingmadhowie: I'm a console maniac so functionality is only necessary on the commandline
[21:48] <robertz> is Cheese Webcam Booth the best webcam software for Ubuntu?
[21:48] <howlingmadhowie> MikyMouse: i had a kernel update today. are you sure it wasn't just that?
[21:48] <SiDi> dementia_: i'd say you can do 99% of everyday's tasks without command line under Ubuntu, and ~95% under Xubuntu
[21:48] <redvamp128> riclas:  sudo gedit - then open - filesystem -- boot- grub menu.1st (I would not delete anything just put a # in front of what you don't want to load so that should you want to go back during boot you can just uncomment out and hit b to boot
[21:49] <howlingmadhowie> daedra: dsl is also missing a lot of console stuff. i'm not sure it even has screen
[21:49] <redvamp128> riclas:  don't forget to save after changes though
[21:49] <quibbler> !gksudo
[21:49] <MikyMouse> howlingmadhowie, I hope so, cause I am really afraid about what is going on with the updater now in my laptopt
[21:49] <daedra> howlingmadhowie: I've heard grml is quite nice for terminal junkies
[21:50] <nickrud> fredguy, http://aphroneo.net/intrepid-sources.list are mine
[21:50] <nickrud> fredguy, a fast server as well
[21:50] <_VIM_> Anyone here using Gnome-Do? I cant get the dock to work its supposed to be listed under themes but i only see Classic, Glass, and Mini. Not Docky.. (Ubuntu 8.04.2)
[21:50] <SiDi> MikyMouse: coincidence probably. Or you didn't do your update, but the package you dl'd was already relying on the latest kernel then dl'd them as dependencies?
[21:50] <matrixx02> i have a problem
[21:50] <GreenHulk> Will Bill Gates ever buy Lindows?
[21:50] <matrixx02> can anyone help me?
[21:50] <m4rk> matrixx02: that all depends
[21:50] <SiDi> GreenHulk: is there anything you've done tonight apart from speaking about offtopic things ?
[21:51] <SiDi> !ask @ matrixx02
[21:51] <SiDi> !ask
[21:51] <GreenHulk> ah come on it was close
[21:51] <dementia_> anybody have any luck with the new ATI driver AMD put out yesterday?
[21:51] <matrixx02> i have a proxy connexion and i whant to ssh
[21:51] <LuXor> guys need help !!!!
[21:51] <howlingmadhowie> daedra: oh, interesting :) i heard of an ubuntu-based distro recently that comes without X
[21:51] <picca> anyone here know how to exclude the module 8139too from loading during boot - e.g. kernel parameter or something
[21:51] <matrixx02> but it does not work
[21:51] <redvamp128> Greenhulk no more Lindows-- it is now Freespire and Linspire
[21:51] <keres> how do you change the default kernel that is loaded on startup?
[21:51] <MikyMouse> Well guys, a reoot is necessary...I hope I can still conect here when I come back....
[21:51] <matrixx02> cause it not see the proxy
[21:51] <fredguy> nickrud: thanks.
[21:52] <lucifer_Star> s
[21:52] <AndreasMadrid> nickrud: reboot performed and logged in as another user. and it worked. Thank you, nickrud
[21:52] <SiDi> matrixx02: you have a linux server already running, and try to tunnelise a connection through it, right ?
[21:52] <meanburrito920> Java question-- I'm trying to figure out how to access the contents of a text file that are jar'd in the same jar as my code. I've tried getResource, but for some reason that is failing
[21:52] <howlingmadhowie> daedra: it's called INX and you can find it here: http://inx.maincontent.net/index.html
[21:52] <meanburrito920> any ideas?
[21:52] <nickrud> AndreasMadrid, yw
[21:52] <AndreasMadrid> :-)
[21:52] <howlingmadhowie> meanburrito920: can't you just unzip the jar and read it?
[21:52] <SiDi> meanburrito920: you should try the #java channel, it has a lot of users
[21:53] <matrixx02> SiDi no... i use windows now
[21:53] <meanburrito920> ok thanks
[21:53] <matrixx02> i whant to do the same think in ubuntu
[21:53] <SiDi> matrixx02: what is it that you can't do exactly ?
[21:53] <The_Joe_> What is the command for the GNOME Menu Editor?
[21:53] <The_Joe_> (I'm using AWN and an AWN menu)
[21:53] <SiDi> The_Joe_: alacarte
[21:54] <meanburrito920> #java says it requires ID. where do I get this?
[21:54] <The_Joe_> SiDi, Cheers
[21:54] <daedra> howlingmadhowie: ooh looks purdy
[21:54] <SiDi> matrixx02: i don't accept pm's without prompt
[21:54] <pike_> meanburrito920: /msg nickserv register <password>  ?
[21:54] <meanburrito920> i'm on pidgin though
[21:55] <etech> will openoffice 3.0.1 be in the backports for intrepid?
[21:55] <howlingmadhowie> daedra: don't it just :-D
[21:55] <pike_> meanburrito920: same thing. thereafter youd /msg nickserv identify <password>  <-- once its registered
[21:55] <LuXor> somethings happened to my ubuntu. ok heres what it is: loading grub, then i select ubuntu, then going loading and after that something is happening... wrong colors on the display and in the center ubuntu logo... the action can be maked... i type user and then i type a pass... everythings are going fine with that.. but this display (wrong colors and in the center ubuntus logo are not disappearing) what to do?
[21:56] <ryxxed> just use /ns instead of /msg nickserv
[21:56] <ryxxed> it's way easier
[21:56] <_VIM_> etchy: I would imagine it would be some time before that happens, but eventually im sure it will
[21:56] <Chest> guys, I've installed the 32 bit chroot jail and am trying to run a 32 bit application and its complaining it cant find libgl.so.1.  I have the 64 bit NVidia drivers installed.  Do I need to install the corresponding 32 bit version?
[21:56] <Hartwell> ye
[21:56] <matrixx02> SiDi can you just read please
[21:56] <zsakr> 'update-initramfs -u' as root
[21:56] <zsakr> it didnt work
[21:57] <josuem> got a laptop with 7.10 did not use it for some time, now I wanna update, apt-get reports lots of errors and cannot find must of the package.  any idea wich repositorys should I add ?
[21:57] <TuxSympathiser> how do I find out what scripts are run when I unplug the ac on my laptop?
[21:57] <meanburrito920> when i go to enter the room it just gives me an error, saying "you must be identified to join that chat room"
[21:57] <LuXor> someone will help me pls?
[21:57] <meanburrito920> Where do I register?
[21:57] <dementia_> how do i get vesa video back if i'm in low graphics mode, i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg -phigh, and I'm still stuck with no video modes, and 0hz refresh
[21:57] <SiDi> LuXor: ask your question and someone might if he/she has the answer
[21:57] <zsakr> ?
[21:57] <howlingmadhowie> josuem: have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list and see if any unusual repositories have been added
[21:57] <blackened> TuxSympathiser: those usually sit in /etc/acpi
[21:57] <LuXor> SiDi: i've asked it allready
[21:57] <Rhorse> josuem, try http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ repos
[21:57] <_VIM_> meanburrito920: /msg nickserv help register
[21:57] <Costa> sera kia lguem pode me ajudar não consigo ver as letras no wine não consigo configurar
[21:57] <soundray> Chest: you don't normally need the chroot jail technique these days... what 32bit app do you have?
[21:57] <LuXor> somethings happened to my ubuntu. ok heres what it is: loading grub, then i select ubuntu, then going loading and after that something is happening... wrong colors on the display and in the center ubuntu logo... the action can be maked... i type user and then i type a pass... everythings are going fine with that.. but this display (wrong colors and in the center ubuntus logo are not disappearing) what to do?
[21:57] <matrixx02> SiDi sorry for PM`s
[21:57] <pike_> !register | meanburrito920
[21:58] <zsakr> 'update-initramfs -u' as root
[21:58] <zsakr> it didnt work
[21:58] <meanburrito920> _VIM_: I cant tell the server anything because I am on pidgin.
[21:58] <zsakr> why?
[21:58] <SiDi> matrixx02: you need : 1) a server running on let's say ssh.exemple.server, and then you can connect by typing "ssh user@ssh.exemple.server"
[21:58] <dementia_> i've tried two different video cards an ati 9200, and an nvidia geforce 2 fx
[21:58] <TuxSympathiser> blackend, when I unplug the ac how would my ethernet controller be effected?
[21:58] <_VIM_> meanburrito920: I would use a "REAL" irc client :)
[21:58] <Chest> soundray: Shake
[21:58] <josuem> Rhorse: thanks.
[21:58] <meanburrito920> :-)
[21:58] <AndreasMadrid> costa, intente em #ubuntu-br
[21:58] <Flaw> How can I change a .png to a .icns?
[21:58] <Rhorse> :-)
[21:58] <meanburrito920> what would you suggest?
[21:58] <_VIM_> meanburrito920: xchat
[21:58] <pike_> dementia_: id prob stay with the nvidia card.  the nv or nvidia driver neither worked?
[21:58] <matrixx02> SiDi but it has
[21:58] <meanburrito920> k
[21:58] <redvamp128> keres:  you use the same gksudo then edit the menu.1st file  then change the one that has default=0 to the one you want to boot first
[21:58] <SiDi> matrixx02: do you have an SSH server setup on a linux server which has FULL access to the internet  ?that's the first step. then only you can use SSH from a proxified connection in order to login on your server
[21:58] <blackened> TuxSympathiser: what's it doing?
[21:58] <howlingmadhowie> LuXor: can you restart X (crtl-alt-backspace), log back in, and see if the problem goes away?
[21:59] <_VIM_> and not the gnome xchat either
[21:59] <matrixx02> i can use it from windows
[21:59] <soundray> Chest: never heard of it -- but have you tried linux32 Shake ?
[21:59] <matrixx02> whit putty
[21:59] <dementia_> pike_: the nvidia drivers fail
[21:59] <Costa> Andreas madri desculpe não etnedi
[21:59] <SiDi> matrixx02: oh yeh i see
[21:59] <dementia_> pike_: this card is 8 to 10 years old
[21:59] <pike_> dementia_: do you need 3d accel?
[21:59] <LuXor> howlingmadhowie: that is the solution?
[21:59] <Vaeshir> I'm running 8.10 and have a wireless issue: The connection strength is always really low (always high in Windows from the same machine). Occasionally wireless drops out entirely. I'm using the onboard wireless for the ASUS P5B Deluxe motherboard. Any recommendations?
[21:59] <pike_> dementia_: all my cards are that old too :)
[21:59] <LuXor> howlingmadhowie: i will try it ty
[21:59] <SiDi> matrixx02: you need to configure the SSH server to run on port 443, and then use "ssh -P 443 user@server", sorry, forgot this
[21:59] <matrixx02> SiDi i think i have to setup somethink in ubuntu ssh
[21:59] <dementia_> pike_: i don't need it, but kind of wanted it
[22:00] <TuxSympathiser> blackend, for some reason if I unplug or plug in ac if I am using the ethernet adapter my system will lock up
[22:00] <dementia_> pike_: it'd at least be nice to get the video modes back that i have on the live cd though
[22:00] <aboSamoor> I have unmet dependencies, do you have any good resources to figure the problem and solve it ?
[22:00] <ir1> thanks you people for the help......ill try the things and see if they work, if not ill come back
[22:00] <Costa> não vejo as letas do wine .......oki devo fazer ?????
[22:00] <pike_> dementia_: lets try to get 2d working first.  are you in X or at command line?
[22:00] <ir1> :)
[22:00] <matrixx02> SiDii have edit the ssh_config file
[22:00] <TuxSympathiser> blackend, this does not happen if I were to shutdown, unplug and then boot back into ubuntu
[22:00] <zsakr> Which package is partprobe from?
[22:00] <zsakr> Which package is partprobe from?
[22:00] <Flaw> How can I change a .png to a .icns?
[22:00] <dementia_> pike_: i'm in x atm but i could go to tty1
[22:00] <SiDi> ir1: you're welcome
[22:00] <zsakr> Which package is partprobe from?
[22:00] <Flaw> !partprobe > zsakr
[22:00] <jpds> !search partprobe | zsakr
[22:00] <howlingmadhowie> Flaw: maybe gimp supports the format
[22:00] <AndreasMadrid> Costa: Eu naum sei tambem naum. Mas acho que ha um canal do irc em que as pessoas todas falam em portugues, e entenderam as suas perguntas.  O canal deve ser #ubuntu-br
[22:00] <etech> will openoffice 3.0.1 be in the backports for intrepid?
[22:00] <pike_> Flaw: imagemagick or maybe just a save as in gimp
[22:01] <pike_> dementia_: lets see what nv driver does. are you familiar with editing xorg.conf?
[22:01] <jpds> zsakr: Actually, try: packages.ubuntu.com
[22:01] <Costa> ok brigado
[22:01] <SiDi> matrixx02: i need to go, hope you'll get it to work with port 443
[22:01] <Redhammer_the_Ol> hi how do I fix my networking -- sorry very general question but the last update killed all my networking on an nforce / geforce 8200 mobo and even the older kernels do not work anymore
[22:01] <matrixx02> SiDi ok thanks
[22:01] <AndreasMadrid> Costa: de nada
[22:01] <AndreasMadrid> :-)
[22:01] <dementia_> pike_: a little bit... i just unloaded all the nvidia packages... gimme a couple i'll reload them
[22:02] <meanburrito920> ok, someone explain this to me. I just installed xchat, and it keeps giving me the error: * *** You are banned from AccessIRC (VersionBot V1)
[22:02] <meanburrito920> what does that mean?
[22:02] <_VIM_> Does Adobe Illustrator (CS3) work in wine? I looked on wineapp database site but, I see conflicting answers about it...a yes or no will do. Thanks :)
[22:02] <danilo> ola
[22:02] <danilo> laa.
[22:02] <pike_> dementia_: do a sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and change the Driver "nvidia" to Driver "nv"
[22:02] <centaur5> Any ideas on what I can do after I customized xorg.conf to have the resolution I want and it still doesn't work?
[22:03] <Chest> soundray: im assuming linux32 Shake, where Shake is the executable.  Its acutally a tcsh script.  when i run the command it says Shake, command not found
[22:03] <AndreasMadrid> Costa  escreva /join #ubuntu-br
[22:03] <_VIM_> I really don't want to have to resort to using win xp in Vbox :/
[22:03] <meoblast001> hi.. how do i set a limit so that when a specific user is idle for so long, the system shuts down
[22:03] <howlingmadhowie> centaur5: what changes did you make? what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[22:03] <meoblast001> my mom is known for leaving my computer idling for hours and saying "i was just going to shut it off right now"
[22:03] <danilo> i dont understand
[22:04] <allen> hmmm
[22:04] <soundray> Chest: you may have to call it with 'linux32 /path/to/script
[22:04] <quibbler> _VIM_: try #winehq
[22:04] <dementia_> pike_: im just seeing configured video device, configured monitor, etc
[22:04] <centaur5> howlingmadhowie: I added the subsection display and put in the defaultdepth and modes "1024x768". I tried both the nv driver and vesa (it's a TNT2 on Intrepid).
[22:04] <AndreasMadrid> ok, folks. I'm leaving
[22:04] <danilo> i am chilean
[22:04] <AndreasMadrid> thank you all
[22:04] <AndreasMadrid> bye
[22:04] <_VIM_> quibbler: ok ty I forgot bout that chan :)
[22:04] <soundray> Chest: you may have to call it with 'linux32 /path/to/script'. linux32 is in a package of the same name.
[22:05] <pike_> dementia_: can you pastebin your xorg.conf file?
[22:05] <howlingmadhowie> meoblast001: if the powermanagement in system->preferences doesn't work, you can look into writing a cron job
[22:05] <pike_> dementia_: also just curious did you have x working at all with the nvidia driver?
[22:05] <pike_> dementia_: or did it revert to failsafe mode?
[22:05] <dementia_> pike_: i tried using envy earlier, and it had a compatible driver...
[22:05] <howlingmadhowie> centaur5: you may have to adjust the values for vertsync and horizwhatever as well
[22:06] <dementia_> pike_: i never got it working with the nvidia driver
[22:06] <dementia_> pike_: it went to failsafe mode
[22:06] <pike_> dementia_: ok. as a rule try to avoid envy
[22:06] <Chest> soundray: didn't have tcsh installed.  that did it.  thanks.
[22:06] <howlingmadhowie> centaur5: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is actually quite informative when it comes to things like this
[22:06] <dementia_> pike_: noted
[22:06] <soundray> Chest: :)
[22:06] <meoblast001> howlingmadhowie: how?
[22:06] <dementia_> pike_: how do i pastebin this conf file?
[22:06] <meoblast001> howlingmadhowie: power management didnt work
[22:06] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[22:07] <pike_> dementia_: can you paste bin the file that results from the command lspci -v > ~/lspci.txt  and then your xorg.conf file?  is the nvidia card in the computer atm?
[22:07] <pike_> pastebin | dementia_
[22:07] <pike_> !pastebin | dementia_
[22:07] <Peddy> How would I compile and install a .C source code file?
[22:07] <howlingmadhowie> meoblast001: in what way does it not work? did you leave the computer and wait for it to turn itself off and it didn't?
[22:08] <DARK666> kien es el dueño de este server irc
[22:08] <meoblast001> howlingmadhowie: there's no option for it
[22:08] <dementia_> pike_: the nvidia card is in atm, ok i'll pastebin bare with me
[22:08] <_VIM_> !es | DARK666
[22:08] <howlingmadhowie> meoblast001: (goes to have a look...) oh, i see. then cron job :)
[22:09] <meoblast001> howlingmadhowie: wtf is a cron job and how do i make one?
[22:09] <dementia_> pike_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111880/
[22:09] <danilo> xao fuk yours
[22:09] <DARK666> thanks
[22:09] <_VIM_> !ohmy | meoblast001 and danilo
[22:09] <meoblast001> _VIM_: f is not a swear word =P
[22:10] <danilo> sorry
[22:10] <howlingmadhowie> meoblast001: this will give you a start: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cronjob
[22:10] <meoblast001> _VIM_: what the fruit is a cron job... is that better =P
[22:10] <danilo> no entiendo nada
[22:10] <Veratyr9b> lol
[22:10] <dementia_> pike_: i'm going to reload the nvidia libraries, as i removed them all earlier when i was going to switch back to the ati card
[22:11] <howlingmadhowie> meoblast001: you'll have to do some bash scripting, but it should be trivial enough. and you'll learn a lot about gnu/linux as well :)
[22:11] <danilo> your spik spanich
[22:11] <_VIM_> Ok no shocker here but #winehq isnt responding... anyone get CS3 working in wine? Ive searched the winehq database but get conflicting reports...
[22:11] <meoblast001> howlingmadhowie: i have an hour before i go to my dads and i have to get ready
[22:12] <pike_> dementia_: should just be a sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx in latest ubuntu
[22:12] <Scunizi> How do I screen shot an open window.. just the window and not the whole screen?
[22:12] <SJr|Work> Where does ubuntu decide what modes your video card can support?
[22:12] <SJr|Work> i.e. in the dual screen
[22:12] <dementia_> pike_: ok i'll try that
[22:12] <pike_> Scunizi: i use gimp for that sometimes there are prob dedicated applets though
[22:12] <Scunizi> SJr|Work: xrandr and nvidia-settings
[22:12] <SJr|Work> Interl
[22:12] <_VIM_> Scunizi: alt+print screen i think
[22:12] <howlingmadhowie> meoblast001: then i can't really help. maybe there's a piece of software in the repositories that will do it though
[22:13] <soundray> Scunizi: I think it's Alt-PrintScreen. Either that, or Shift-
[22:13] <meoblast001> ok
[22:13] <_VIM_> pike_: how do you use gime to take screenshot of a window?
[22:13] <_VIM_> gimp
[22:13] <Scunizi> _VIM_: ah that's what I was looking for .. thanks pike_ and soundray ( _VIM_ you too :)  )
[22:13] <SJr|Work> Hmmmmmm Scunizi when I go into System -> Preference -> Screen Resolution where does it get those settings from?
[22:14] <blackened> _VIM_: in gimp's toolbox window -> File -> Aquire -> Screenshot
[22:14] <zleap> if i edit fstab do i need to resttasrt to get the system to read the new file
[22:14] <_VIM_> blackened: ah nice :)
[22:14] <dementia_> pike_: ok i did that cmd apt-get
[22:14] <Scunizi> SJr|Work: those are set by xrandr.. I'll send you a link from ubottu.. but do you have the restricted drivers activated?  What kind of vid card?
[22:15] <picca> anyone here know how to exclude the module 8139too from loading during boot - e.g. kernel parameter or something
[22:15] <dementia_> pike_: sorry i'm very new at this... well i tried a linux distro 10 years ago, but stepped away from it till now
[22:15] <Scunizi> !resolution | SJr|Work
[22:15] <SJr|Work> Hmmmm not sure Scunzi it's an Internel Mobile 945GME
[22:16] <SJr|Work> Ah
[22:16] <SJr|Work> I see I see
[22:16] <SJr|Work> hold on lemme try something :)
[22:16] <Scunizi> SJr|Work: ah. intel.. it's well supported.. what happened to me recently is when I did an install it didn't install the right drivers.. different intel drivers.. so I uninstalled those and installed the right ones (all from synaptic) and rebooted.. worked.
[22:16] <sd32> whats the best image scanning software for ubuntu?
[22:17] <Scunizi> sd32: for a scanner?
[22:17] <blackened> SJr|Work: the good news is that the intel integrated sets are very well supported through xrandr
[22:17] <sd32> Scunizi, yes
[22:17] <SJr|Work> How well are nvidia drivers supported :)
[22:17] <Scunizi> sd32: sane should be built in.. and there's xsane.. basically the same.. it really depends on your scanner.
[22:18] <Scunizi> SJr|Work: pretty well... that's what a lot of folks run.
[22:18] <blackened> SJr|Work: through xrandr? the proprietary drivers aren't at all I don't think
[22:18] <sd32> Scunizi, xsane is giving me problems
[22:18] <Scunizi> sd32: try sane
[22:18] <nethans> hi guys
[22:18] <nethans> anyhow has worked with qemu?
[22:18] <sd32> Scunizi, ok thanks
[22:18] <SJr|Work> Yeah it just gives these retarded resolutions for the other screen
[22:18] <pike_> dementia_: are you on this computer right now?
[22:18] <pike_> dementia_: your irc client?
[22:18] <SJr|Work> Like 1360x768
[22:18] <dementia_> pike_: yes
[22:18] <sidewalk> what kind of internet tv applications are there for linux, anything like tvuplayer?
[22:18] <blackened> If you're dealing with an nvidia card using the proprietary drivers, then you're better off using nvidia-settings
[22:19] <Mood> Is there a way to screen capture in Ubuntu?
[22:19] <dementia_> pike_: i could move to another computer
[22:19] <pike_> dementia_: try an alt-ctrl-backspace  thatll restart X though
[22:19] <jp_sf> blackened: "through xrandr? the proprietary drivers aren't at all" they are but not with multiple display screen
[22:20] <quibbler> Mood: alt print screen
[22:20] <dementia_> pike_: ok, i did that, but no change
[22:20] <Mood> quibbler: where does it get saved? in the copy buffer?
[22:21] <quibbler> Mood: on your desktop
[22:21] <dementia_> pike_: it restarted x but still the same lack of driver
[22:21] <Mood> hmm... i don't see the screen capture on my desktop :-(
[22:21] <szymon_g> hi
[22:21] <homecable> ok i need some help what does relatime do does any one just run noatime for / ?
[22:21] <Rhorse> sidewalk, mythtv
[22:21] <pike_> dementia_: can you pastebin those files?
[22:22] <szymon_g> melouber: nie wklejaj nic na kanal, uzyj wklej.org badz czegos podobnego
[22:22] <devex> sidewalk: zattoo_player
[22:22] <blackened> jp_sf: is this a new development?
[22:22] <szymon_g> ;p
[22:22] <szymon_g> bye
[22:22] <dementia_> pike_: from the output of apt-get?
[22:22] <rikkimaru> I don't have a /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt, how do I get one?
[22:22] <soundray> homecable: noatime doesn't update atime records at all. relatime updates them, but only when there are disk writes anyway.
[22:22] <jp_sf> blackened: I haven't used much xrandr but works on a single display
[22:23] <SJr|Work> ugh lame
[22:23] <Mood> quibbler: i think alt+printscreen is particular to Gnome
[22:23] <Mood> quibbler: i'm using xfce
[22:23] <SJr|Work> I get screen cannot be larger than 2048x768
[22:23] <quibbler> Mood: sorry i'm using gnome
[22:23] <soundray> Mood: you could use xwd on the commandline
[22:23] <thomas1978c> oh, and by the way, my responses won't be quick as my connection times out every couple mins
[22:23] <Mood> quibbler: :-)
[22:23] <blackened> jp_sf: I was under the impression that the proprietary drivers didn't work at all with xrandr, at least as far as adding resolutions and refresh rates
[22:23] <dementia_> pike_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111882/
[22:23] <redvamp128> !dkms | keres
[22:24] <dementia_> pike_: that is what i get from that cmd
[22:24] <keres> ah ok
[22:24] <sd32> Scunizi, i dont see sane??
[22:24] <Mood> soundray: holy cow! i just tried xwd and i see a lot of garbage chars in my terminal
[22:25] <Scunizi> sd32: that might just be the back end for xsane.. what kind of issues are you having? not sure if I'll have any answers but I'm curious
[22:25] <soundray> Mood: that's your screenshot. You have to redirect it to a file like so: 'xwd >screenshot.xwd'
[22:25] <thomas1978c> hi redvamp, you were here the other day when I had a/v issues....how are you today?
[22:25] <homecable> what do people use  for / part on a server relatime or noatime ?
[22:25] <soundray> Mood: 'man xwd' is worth reading
[22:25] <redvamp128> thomas1978c:  I am a little tired
[22:25] <Mood> soundray: cool. thank you
[22:25] <jp_sf> blackened: true not all can be configured
[22:25] <thomas1978c> redvamp: up late online?
[22:25] <Samosurfer> HELP....after a routine update I now have no sound......my sound icon is crossed out....terminal dosnt see alsa at all
[22:26] <Mood> soundray: is there a way to screen capture things on the desktop, not necessarily in a terminal?
[22:26] <sd32> Scunizi, the first scan worked, but all the scans after that only scan a third of the page
[22:26] <redvamp128> thomas1978c:  no -- just worked today -- had to do drywall repair - people punch holes in walls--
[22:26] <centaur5> howlingmadhowie: I don't see any errors in there. Shouldn't there be some every time I try to login?
[22:26] <soundray> Mood: have you tried the PrintScreen key as is (no modifiers)?
[22:27] <Scunizi> sd32: ok.. that one's beyond me.. I still have to go into a vm of windows to scan since my scanner isn't supported. sorry I can't help
[22:27] <thomas1978c> redvamp: drywall hanging sucks.
[22:27] <Mood> soundray: yes, i've tried screenprint and screenprint+alt, but they don't seem to work in my distro (xubuntu w/ xfce)
[22:27] <soundray> sd32: what's your problem with xsane?
[22:27] <thomas1978c> redvamp: no holes in my walls....plaster. don't hit it.
[22:27] <Rhorse> Mood, have you tried imagemagick?
[22:27] <soundray> Mood: the key?
[22:28] <Mood> Rhorse: nope. i'
[22:28] <thomas1978c> oooh magic jack on linux. I need help there too
[22:28] <Mood> Rhorse, nope, i'll google for it though
[22:28] <Mood> soundray, yes, the printscren key
[22:28] <Mood> screen*
[22:28] <Rhorse> imagemagick has the import/export command for screenshots of the desktop or any window you specify
[22:29] <peleg> I have a major problem: many movies (but not all of them) does not have sound-image synchornization. It is quite a new issue, and I tend to believe that this is a codecs issue
[22:29] <sd32> soundray,the scan worked fine the first time, then the following scans only scan a third of the page
[22:29] <Mood> seems like there's nothing native in xfce to screencapture... i'd have to install a utility like imagemagick
[22:29] <azerlmf> hi there a
[22:29] <azerlmf> i got a grub problem
[22:29] <thomas1978c> hoping for a lil help with my wifi router? it keeps timing out. netgear wgr614 v9
[22:29] <pike_> dementia_: you want to sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-71
[22:29] <md22> hello. i am deceding whether to get 2gb or 4gb for a linux PC i am building and wonder if 64 bit linux has caught up with 32 bit linux in terms of compatibility (able to run both 32 bit and 64 bit without any major problems)
[22:29] <azerlmf> i install ubuntu 8.10 then mandriva
[22:29] <pike_> thats the legacy driver
[22:29] <azerlmf> after
[22:29] <dementia_> pike_: i just reinstalled numerous nvidia packages from synaptic... oh ok, i'll try that next
[22:29] <redvamp128> thomas1978c:  see pm
[22:29] <soundray> sd32: it's worth reporting this as a bug
[22:30] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | azerlmf
[22:30] <azerlmf> now i can't boot to ubuntu
[22:30] <peleg> It happens with .avi movies -- but not with all of them. Do you think there's a way to fix that somehow?
[22:30] <soundray> sd32: perhaps try kooka - it has KDE dependencies, but should run in gnome, too
[22:30] <chazco> Hi... i've been told ssh with X forwarding is a reasonable solution for remote controling a netbook. Can anyone recommend a good tutorial on getting a secure ssh service set up?
[22:30] <sd32> soundray, not that advanced
[22:30] <azerlmf> *              /kernel/boot/vmlinuz-26.27-7-generic root = UUID = c8098f70-7ebe-45df921a-673f0-ef5c256 ro qquiet splash error 15 : file not found press any key to continue *
[22:30] <blackened> Mood: you could also install scrot through the repos. You might also check to see if there's an xfce panel applet available for screenshots
[22:30] <sd32> soundray, ok thanks for the sugesstion
[22:31] <azerlmf> when i try to boot it give me that result :
[22:31] <azerlmf> *              /kernel/boot/vmlinuz-26.27-7-generic root = UUID = c8098f70-7ebe-45df921a-673f0-ef5c256 ro qquiet splash error 15 : file not found press any key to continue *
[22:31] <jp_sf> thomas1978c: describe timing out, you computer ? your loosing connectivity you can connect to the internet ?
[22:31] <Pirate_Hunter> how can i identify why rtorrent is literally taking 100% cpu on start up it freezes the system for 1 minute or so but that shouldnt happen and hasnt happened till now?
[22:31] <Mood> blackened: thank you, i'll look for one
[22:31] <soundray> sd32: you don't have to be "advanced" to report a bug
[22:31] <dementia_> pike_: ok that install is running now
[22:31] <blackened> Mood: no sweat. sudo apt-get install scrot
[22:31] <soundray> !bugs | sd32
[22:31] <pike_> dementia_: also if you only need 2d we can probably get that fixed if i know the lspci output and the xorg.conf file
[22:31] <blackened> then use the man pages
[22:31] <pike_> dementia_: if this fails
[22:31] <BluesKaj> hiyas , just decided to try gnome again after 3 yrs of kde ...kde4.2 drove me out
[22:32] <dementia_> pike_: ok i'm going to restart x real quick... the install just completed
[22:32] <dementia_> pike_: brb
[22:33] <centaur5> howlingmadhowie: You were right, I had to specify refresh rates.  Thank you!  Next time I have a TNT2 I'll just stick with Hardy since Intrepid has the new xorg.
[22:34] <redvamp128> azerlmf:  you should be able to choose another kernel to get it to boot
[22:34] <TuxSympathiser> The ACPI is causing my computer to lock up when changing power source and connected to the internet using ethernet
[22:34] <Omar87> How do I activate Mod_Python?
[22:34] <DeepTrout> how do i do anything?
[22:34] <dementia_> pike_: you're a genius pike... i have my resolutions and my refresh rate back
[22:34] <jpds> Omar87: Try asking in #ubuntu-server.
[22:34] <DeepTrout> :-)
[22:35] <pike_> dementia_: cool. its usually not this bad I hope you enjoy ubuntu:)
[22:35] <dementia_> pike_: :-) i know that drivers are always the downfall
[22:36] <DeepTrout> seriously i just downloaded ubuntu yesterday because i am sick of microsoft and apple and wanted to try something new but i am completely clueless
[22:36] <dementia_> pike_: before you were mentioning nv, how do i use that cmd? is 3d/opengl possible on my old card?
[22:37] <Gustavo_G> Does Ubuntu 8.10 come with Samba ? I'm looking to view shared files on a windows box.
[22:37] <jimius> DeepTrout >> it's not as tough as you think, it just requires a little more hands-on
[22:37] <azerlmf> how to choose ? redvamp128
[22:37] <pike_> dementia_: it should be working now. nv is the open source driver that is really only good for 2d vid and stuff. the driver you installed is nvidias proprietary driver and should have all the possible bells and whistles
[22:37] <jp_sf> Gustavo_G: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/internet/C/networking-shares.html
[22:38] <sd32> man launchpad even has a bug
[22:38] <ruben23> hi i installed ssh server package where can i find its sshd-config
[22:38] <pike_> dementia_: install tremulous and see if you can run it :)
[22:39] <miha> ruben23:  /etc/ssh/ssh_config
[22:39] <miha> oh
[22:39] <DeepTrout> ive got it up and running ok and have all my drivers updated and when i found a program that looked interesting for the desktop interface i (beryl) but now that i have downlaoded it i cant install it when i go to the add/remove programs on the bar at the bottom it doesnt find it
[22:39] <dementia_> pike_: ok under appearance, if i try to enable visual effects for normal, or extra. it won't let me... i'll try installing tremulous
[22:39] <miha> hm
[22:40] <Gustavo_G> jp_sf, thank you.
[22:40] <DeepTrout> so im assuming i have to do something from the command line from what the help file says but again im clueless
[22:41] <dementia_> pike_: do you have a suggestion for an extremely well supported nvidia card that would run 3d like butter on ubuntu?
[22:41] <Rhorse> ruben23, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-openssh-server-installation-and-configuration/
[22:41] <DeepTrout> not sure
[22:42] <DeepTrout> i was expecting that to be an issue honestly
[22:42] <jp_sf> DeepTrout: beryl like in Beryl windows manager ? If so this project is now compiz
[22:42] <DeepTrout> the laptop is definately not top of the line
[22:42] <DeepTrout> this isnt so much a beryl specific question
[22:43] <lopin> Hello.  I'm having problems with floppy drives.  I can't get any disks to read properly with any drive, on any computer...
[22:43] <DeepTrout> in fact nevermind i have allot more reading to do
[22:43] <DeepTrout> thanks anyway though :-0
[22:43] <jp_sf> DeepTrout: sorry you post a lot what is your question ?
[22:43] <DeepTrout> :-)
[22:43] <pike_> dementia_: ive never had trouble with any of them anything after geforce4 def
[22:44] <BlackBatMan> anybody knows a channel that can answer this ? : time a 32WHr 4 cell battery last?
[22:45] <jp_sf> lopin: you can't access your floppy drive ?
[22:46]  * BluesKaj looks around for familiar nicks.....
[22:46] <TuxSympathiser> how does the acpi effect the ethernet controller when I unplug the AC from my laptop?
[22:46] <dementia_> pike_: I have a pretty decent card in my xp box... a geforce 9500 gt with 512 megs of ram
[22:47] <lopin> jp_sf: Kinda...
[22:47] <lopin> I can't get any disks through any drives on any of my computers to format.
[22:47] <thomas1978c> jpsf: my router disconnects then reconnects every couple minutes.
[22:47] <jp_sf> lopin: it does mount ?
[22:47] <jp_sf> lopin: what do you have in /dev/fd0
[22:47] <lopin> I keep getting the Cannot Determine Disk Geometry error...
[22:47] <agent007> hello everyone, I was wondering if someone might be able to help me out?
[22:48] <daedra> i realised something in my OS lecture today
[22:48] <lopin> jp_sf: About 40 different Floppy disk in my /dev/fd0...
[22:48] <quibbler> !ask | agent007
[22:48] <lopin> I'm using gfloppy to format, and I keep getting that error.  Regardless of wether the disk is old or new, the computer is old or new, or the drive itself is old or new...
[22:48] <agent007> Thank you...........
[22:48] <dementia_> pike_: i'm going to restart after tremulous installs be back thereafter
[22:49] <thomas1978c> sorry if my responses are slow. I only have a few seconds then I get disconnected from my netgear wgr614 v9
[22:49] <StanManCan> How difficult is it to setup Ubuntu Server to be a web/file/mail server ??
[22:49] <BluesKaj> lopin , can't see it in applications/computer ?
[22:49] <agent007> Well I installed Ubuntu last night. I installed on top of Windows. I have the option to multi boot. I choose ubuntu and it brings me to a DOS liek prompt. What am I supposed to do next?
[22:49] <lopin> It won't mount...
[22:49] <lopin> It sits there, and then says can't mount file...
[22:50] <_VIM_> anyone here get CS3 working in wine? on Ubuntu 8.04 specifically, the wine channel doesnt respond and ive searched the wine app database but get conflicting reports.
[22:51] <BlackBatMan> anybody knows a channel that can answer this ? : time a 32WHr 4 cell battery last?
[22:51] <lopin> I just need a single floppy to hold a format for twenty minutes so I can flash my bios...
[22:51] <lopin> I'm not asking for much...
[22:51] <lopin> I swear, I'm going to cry...
[22:51] <thomas1978c> can anyone help me get my router/wifi sigmal to stop timing out?
[22:51] <_VIM_> i too have floppy drive issues i feel your pain
[22:52] <thomas1978c> I have a netgear wgr614 v9
[22:52] <dementia_> pike_: tremulous does not load at all... brb after reboot
[22:52] <_VIM_> !away > JamesMowery|away
[22:52] <vigo> lopin: can you use a flash drive?
[22:52] <jp_sf> lopin: what error message do you have if you : sudo mount -t auto /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[22:52] <Gustavo_G> BlackBatMan: try #electronics
[22:53] <quibbler> _VIM_: you might try in the ubuntu forums in the wine forum : http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313
[22:53] <Gustavo_G> BlackBatMan: just divide by the number of watts the load draws, and that tells you how many hours it lasts. Most battery ratings are stated in mA hours, a watt is a volt x an ampere
[22:53] <_VIM_> ok quibbler thanks :)
[22:53] <lopin> vigo: No.  I have to either flash with Windows (The problem being that I can't get windows to install) or by floppy from inside the current bios...
[22:54] <hayvan> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRB1vQVqdQA
[22:54] <Gustavo_G> !away > Gustavo_G
[22:54] <vigo> lopin: use a CD-R , does not really matter what the media is. To flash a BIOS all that is needed is the data input method.
[22:54] <_VIM_> lopin: have you tried Puppy linux live cd? It's really good at getting hard to mount drives mounted
[22:55] <lopin> vigo: I don't have a utiity to flash a bios without a functioning floppy drive.  I have no way to flash via cd
[22:55] <lopin> Problem is not the mounting...
[22:55] <lopin> Problem is the floppy drive...
[22:55] <vigo> lopin: uhmm,,working it out here.I have bee through that a few times
[22:56] <frostburn> what would cause the trash icon to take up 1pixel in width, essentially making it invisible?
[22:56] <lopin> vigo: I have to thank you for the help, and apologize for being terse.  Like I said, I'm very upset, and to the point of tears.  This is my first build with actual purchased hardware from scratch....
[22:57] <lopin> I'm very depressed that I can't even get my own system up and running...
[22:57] <thomas1978c> anyone help fix router, netgear wgr614 v9  drivers not working correctly. keep getting connection termination. 2 minute loop.
[22:57] <lopin> And, mount with auto flag required a filesystem, when gave msdos, it complained that it couldn't read the superblock...
[22:58] <Gustavo_G> I just made some changes through preferences > Network Configuration. How do I "apply" these changes. ifconfig shows that they haven't yet been
[22:58] <vigo> lopin: here> http://www.computing.net/answers/hardware/flash-bios-without-floppy/32745.html
[22:59] <pike_> lopin: have you tried freedos?
[22:59] <homecable> is -server does it have spport for a p4 with ht in the kernel
[22:59] <homecable> 2.6.24-19-server
[22:59] <homecable> ?
[22:59] <lopin> pike_: Biostar does not provide a DOS application for flashing bios.  It's a Windows App, or A built in update with a floppy disk...
[22:59] <thomas1978c> ok, im back in again
[22:59] <thomas1978c> this is so lame
[22:59] <nethans> nethans
[23:00] <bonka> hi how to listen music when i talk with skype? ubuntu 8.04... how to solve this? in 7.04 i can use skype ant listens music... need help peoples!
[23:00] <Droopsta915> can i get sound to work on virtual box?
[23:01] <Gustavo_G> The network configuration documents I am finding about Ubunutu all discuss modifying a text file. Is there any graphical method?
[23:01] <lopin> vigo: I don't have a functioning copy of Windows, to use the application.  That's the problem  I have to update the bios in order for the windows installers to stop freezing...
[23:01] <pike_> lopin: this uses it seems a combination of freedos and mounting the floppy image. may work dunno.  http://www.linuxinsight.com/how-to-flash-motherboard-bios-from-linux-no-dos-windows-no-floppy-drive.html
[23:02] <MrWindex> hey all, how come I installed ubuntu-studio but I can't find a shortcut for it on the applications menu?
[23:02] <pike_> MrWindex: try pkill gnome-panel
[23:02] <lopin> pike_: Not an option.  I can only use the floppy for the update IN THE BIOS.  The only other way to update the bios is with a WINDOWS application.  FORGET DOS.  It's not an option.
[23:03] <MrWindex> pike: thank you for your help, but no luck :(
[23:04] <huh> help
[23:04] <MrWindex> pike: should I check that it's installed properly?
[23:04] <comradekingu> My tracks are listed multiple times in the new rhythmbox
[23:04] <_cb> If I want to clone /sda to /sdb can I do it booting from /sda and running ddrescue from /sda ?
[23:04] <harlemdavvey> hey guys how can i format a creative mp3 player by command line using the terminal??
[23:04] <bonka> hi how to listen music when i talk with skype? ubuntu 8.04... how to solve this? in 7.04 i can use skype ant listens music... need help
[23:04] <pike_> MrWindex: so ubuntu studio is a metapackage i think. that means it pulls in all sorts of other packages but isnt an app itself
[23:05] <tweak> anyone know how to find out if i have tdr1 or tdr2 ram?
[23:05] <MrWindex> oh, okay
[23:05] <MrWindex> so I have to install something else then?
[23:05] <agent007> Well I installed Ubuntu last night. I installed on top of Windows. I have the option to multi boot. I choose ubuntu and it brings me to a DOS liek prompt. What am I supposed to do next?
[23:05] <pike_> MrWindex: what package name did you install?  on 8.04 (my system) itd be like ubuntustudio-desktop
[23:06] <MrWindex> I did ubuntustudio-desktop
[23:06] <Gustavo_G> The changes I'm making to my network connection are not being reflected if I do an ifconfig eth0
[23:06] <Gustavo_G> agent007: try hitting Ctrl-Alt-F7
[23:06] <homecable> does the kernel in unbunto support p4 ht cpu ?
[23:06] <vigo> lopin: ahhh,,,I am about to dump windows altogether now,,so I am still learning how to unbrand the hardware stuff,,,that freeDOS suggestion I saw was a good alternative, or seems to be
[23:06] <homecable> or do i need to make a custem kernel
[23:06] <pike_> MrWindex: eh id think that would be it.  maybe try logging out/back in see if themes and stuff change
[23:06] <harlemdavvey> guys can anyone help me?
[23:07] <pike_> homecable: the generic kernel should
[23:07] <harlemdavvey> i would like to format a mp3 player by command in the terminal.. how can i do?
[23:07] <howlingmadhowie> homecable: it should support it. i can't see a reason for the ubuntu kernel team to disable support for ht
[23:07] <tweak66> anyone know how to tell what kind of memory i have?
[23:07] <MrWindex> pike: okay I'll try that. I have to go to dinner, so I may not come back after I try it, but I'll be in this channel later for sure. thank you for your help
[23:07] <bonka> solved... thanks ;D
[23:07] <bonka> bye=D
[23:08] <homecable> pike_ is there a benchmark test i can on on my box and see how fast things are ?
[23:08] <harlemdavvey> .. oh ok guys.. solved:) thx anyway:)
[23:08] <harlemdavvey> bye
[23:08] <pike_> harlemdavvey: you are sure you want to do this?  easiest method maybe sudo fdisk -l to see the partitions and then sudo mkfs.vfat /dev/sdc1 or whatever partition. make sure of the partition and that its ok to just reformat it (doesnt have any config files etc the mp3 player needs)
[23:08] <Gustavo_G> The changes I'm making to my network connection are not being reflected if I do an ifconfig eth0.
[23:08] <sisco> im trying to install xf86-video-intel on ubuntu 8.10 and im getting 'no package xorg-server found'
[23:08] <pike_> lol'
[23:08] <md22> hallelujah my ubuntu linux supports my tv card that windows vista  though was crap (didn't have drivers)
[23:08] <dementia_> pike_: so yeah, i have 0 3d support right now, and searching nvidia's site has suggested as you had stated that geforce 4 or better is the best bet for linux
[23:09] <dementia_> pike_: my old geforce 2 ti is not up for 3d apparently
[23:09] <pike_> dementia_: the reason for that is that the package are broken into nvidia-legacy and nvidia and nvidia-new  your card is legacy and so fairly old but ive dropped those cards in systems for forever the usually work well
[23:09] <howlingmadhowie> sisco: can you try sudo apt-get update
[23:10] <Rhorse> md22, may Ubuntu bless you, keep you. Now go, and spread the word.
[23:10] <huh> ctrl+t is'nt working
[23:10] <md22> haha :D
[23:10] <sisco> has yeah its up to date
[23:10] <huh> no :(
[23:10] <howlingmadhowie> md22: and join the church of emacs while you're at it :-D
[23:10] <pike_> homecable: how fast disk write is or opengl or what?
[23:10]  * _VIM_ glares at howlingmadhowie 
[23:10] <sisco> howlingmadhowie yes it is up to date
[23:11] <tweak66> anyone know about RAM? i need to find out what kind of ram i need to buy
[23:11] <lopin> vigo: the FreeDOS suggestion would only work if Biostar provided a DOS application for flashing the bios.  Seeing as they don't have one, then I'm stuck.
[23:11] <sisco> i believe it may be looking in the wrong place posibly
[23:11] <sisco> tweak66: #hardware
[23:11] <dementia_> pike_: i think i'm going to switch back to the ATI card until such time that I can get a newer nvidia card in this computer
[23:11] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  Does anyone know a way to create a stand-alone form that a person can fill out, save, and print?  I'm trying to use OpenOffice, but I'm not finding what I'm looking for. :(
[23:11] <md22> tweak66:what processor do you have
[23:11] <tweak66> 3.02 intel single core
[23:11] <dementia_> pike_: unless you think that is a terrible idea
[23:11] <pike_> sisco: apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel  what youre looking for?
[23:11] <md22> tweak66:P4 ?
[23:12] <tweak66> celeron D?
[23:12] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  Does anyone know a way to create a stand-alone form that a person can fill out, save, and print?  I'm trying to use OpenOffice, but I'm not finding what I'm looking for. :(
[23:12] <pike_> dementia_: well ati support is usually flakier than nvidia. this is changing so i guess its up to you to decide which driver you prefer
[23:12] <lopin> Okay, Something is getting fucking thrown across the room... :C
[23:12] <pike_> dementia_: you can always use both at once and have 2 desktops :)
[23:12] <_VIM_> !ohmy | lopin
[23:13] <howlingmadhowie> _VIM_: http://www.linux-onlineshop.de/images/product_images/popup_images/3988_0.jpg
[23:13] <dementia_> pike_: only 1 agp slot available on this computer
[23:13] <pike_> ah so much for that then
[23:13] <_VIM_> lol howlingmadhowie ive seen that before ;)
[23:13] <sisco> pike_ no thats already installed, i want the xf86-video-intel-2.6.1 drivers to take full advantage
[23:13] <md22> tweak66:its hard to say since you have a celeron D. it could either be ddr or ddr2. let some one checkout your motherboard
[23:13] <dementia_> pike_: but yeah, amd's purchase of ati seems promising
[23:14] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  Does anyone know a way to create a stand-alone form that a person can fill out, save, and print?  I'm trying to use OpenOffice, but I'm not finding what I'm looking for. :(
[23:14] <dementia_> pike_: they put out a driver yesterday, and my messing with it is what got me into the safe mode graphics issue in the 1st place
[23:15] <sisco> i am trying to fix the problem xorg-server not found
[23:15] <pike_> dementia_: just do a cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-nvidia then you can always copy that back to xorg.conf to restore. im all about backup files
[23:15] <_cb> If I want to clone /sda to /sdb can I do it booting from /sda and running ddrescue from /sda ?
[23:16] <smo_PenguinStyle> Hey all.  Does anyone know a way to create a stand-alone form that a person can fill out, save, and print?  I'm trying to use OpenOffice, but I'm not finding what I'm looking for. :(
[23:16] <foolz> I have a question - I just realized that my update manager has not been updating in a while, and I get the error "could not download all repository indexes" no matter which mirror I try to choose from - I am running Feisty 7.04.  Is this version no longer supported for automatic program updates?
[23:16] <sd32> !repeat
[23:17] <_VIM_> _cb: ive always heard you're not supposed to dd copy a drive that is mounted...have you tried Clonezilla?
[23:17] <Gohalien> oh dear God, how do I restore GRUB ? Installed to test windows 7 and it did a mess...
[23:17] <_VIM_> !mbr | Gohalien
[23:17] <Andry_2> no wonder
[23:17] <Gohalien> ty
[23:17] <_VIM_> np
[23:17] <howlingmadhowie> foolz: i think feisty was only supported until october 2008
[23:17] <bdelin88> i am using ubuntu server, but i think this question pertains here as well...
[23:18] <foolz> howling, ah, thanks... that probably explains it.  I had not been getting automatic updates in a while, I just didn't really think about it until now, haha
[23:18] <mrwes> Gohalien: that'll teach you for messin' wit windows
[23:18] <foolz> I guess I will have to update and hope it doesn't rename my partitions and screw things up like last time
[23:18] <mrwes> :)
[23:18] <sisco> i am compiling a driver and it says xorg-server not found
[23:18] <_cb> _VIM_ did not know about Clonezilla. Will google it.  If I want to run ddrescue from a flash drive do I simply copy the ddescue file? Is it like an .exe in windows (newbie to linux)
[23:19] <bdelin88> i am using ubuntu server, but i think this question pertains here as well... i just used cfdisk from command line to format another hardrive in the computer to NTFS for multi-os storage.  Now... when i run "mount" of look at the fstab it is not showing?  USB external also do not show, anyone know what is up?  I also have ntfs-3g installed
[23:19] <dementia_> pike_: well, thanks for all of your help
[23:19] <Gohalien> thanks a lot
[23:19] <_VIM_> im not familar with that really _cb , ive only used Clonezilla :)
[23:19] <bdelin88> as well as pmount
[23:19] <howlingmadhowie> foolz: i always do a clean install. if you have space and time for backups, that's the way to go
[23:19] <Darwin-LTS> hello guys, I have a soundblaster audigy 7.1 after a couple of things I googled I managed it to work but just noticed that not sound at flash videos such as youtube and else, what can I do to fix it??
[23:19] <dementia_> have a good evening folks
[23:19] <foolz> howling, that's true... I could always just do a clean install if the update fails though, right?
[23:20] <bdelin88> i am using ubuntu server, but i think this question pertains here as well... i just used cfdisk from command line to format another hardrive in the computer to NTFS for multi-os storage.  Now... when i run "mount" of look at the fstab it is not showing?  USB external also do not show, anyone know what is up?  I also have ntfs-3g and pmount installed
[23:20] <Gerinych> is there anything like ksysguard for gnome?
[23:20] <_VIM_> _cb: I gotta go though, just keep repeating your question like every 10 mins, and someone will help , good luck :)
[23:20] <_cb> _VIM_ thanks
[23:20] <howlingmadhowie> foolz: yepp :)
[23:20] <foolz> my computer dual boots ubuntu and windows, and to be honest I have been letting my Linux knowledge stagnate lately (kind of a linux newb to begin with) so I wanna go the path of least resistance, hehe
[23:20] <exodus_ms> did you try sudo maount -a
[23:20] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: you talking to me?
[23:20] <Gustavo_G> The changes I'm making to my network connection are not being reflected if I do an ifconfig eth0. What is the proper way to change my network settings?
[23:20] <Crayboff> umm I accidentally removed something from sessions, so can someone with intrepid ibex tell me what they have in their sessions which starts with "A" default things are all i need
[23:21] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: yeah mount -a
[23:21] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: i just did that and it doesn't respond, it just enters the command
[23:21] <evilGUI> I have been trying to get cron to run a perl script every 30 minutes for the past few days I entered this into crontab -e */33 * * * * /home/lendon/e.pl -u -p -d
[23:21] <shyam_k> foolz: but with windows it may not be the direct heat resistance but the non-free inductance that causes reactance making the way harder:P
[23:21] <howlingmadhowie> foolz: i can't remember how good the distro updater was for 7.04->7.10. that could get quite hairy if you've configured things like additional repositories
[23:21] <svalenci> crayboff - AT SPI Registry Wrapper
[23:21] <bdelin88> (just thought i'd throw out that windows 7 is tremendous compared to vista)
[23:22] <bdelin88> i just beta tested it
[23:22] <foolz> howling, hmm, that is unfortunate... I guess perhaps I will be forced to brush up on my Linux knowledge hehe
[23:22] <dimitris> Can someone suggest a usb tv card for my laptop that will work with Ubuntu 8.10?
[23:22] <Darwin-LTS> hello guys, I have a soundblaster audigy 7.1 after a couple of things I googled I managed it to work but just noticed that not sound at flash videos such as youtube and else, what can I do to fix it??
[23:22] <Crayboff> svalenci, is that a default one?
[23:22] <paul68> where can I find the trash folder in 8.10?
[23:22] <shyam_k> Is carsten agger out here? would like to talk to him!
[23:22] <bdelin88> i am using ubuntu server, but i think this question pertains here as well... i just used cfdisk from command line to format another hardrive in the computer to NTFS for multi-os storage.  Now... when i run "mount" of look at the fstab it is not showing?  USB external also do not show, anyone know what is up?  I also have ntfs-3g and pmount installed
[23:22] <svalenci> crayboff - is the only session I have starting an A.
[23:23] <Crayboff> svalenci, would you mind sending me the command?
[23:23] <phenom> Would any one have any idea why the bluetooth applet is eating all of my diskspace,, and how to recover it maybe?
[23:23] <foolz> shyam_k, yeah, I was forced to go on my windows partition recently for the first time in a while to mess with my Ipod.... oof, what a headache... slower than molasses
[23:23] <digitalslave> anyone been having sound problems all the sudden?
[23:23] <svalenci> the command is /usr/lib/gnome-session/helpers/at-spi-registryd-wrapper
[23:23] <phenom> I plug in a bluetooth dongle and it is literally eating all my diskspace..
[23:24] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: ? mount -a then check fstab, your ntfs partitions should show up then
[23:24] <Crayboff> thx, svalenci.
[23:24] <pike_> bdelin88: often when you repartition a reboot is the easiest solution (if using a desktop)
[23:24] <bdelin88> pike_: i did reboot and it's on a desktop
[23:24] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: it does not show
[23:24] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: only Ext3 and swap + cdroms
[23:24] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS | awk '{print $1}'
[23:24] <Crayboff> now i'd just like someone to confirm that that is the one I deleted, just to be sure. Is AT SPI Registry Wrapper the only thing in sessions starting with an "a"?
[23:24] <Darwin-LTS> .local/share/Trash/files paul68
[23:25] <paul68> Darwin-LTS: thanks
[23:25] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: it replies with "/dev/sda6" which is the drive I am trying to mount
[23:26] <evilGUI> anyone know how you would run perl scripts in crontab? just link to the perl script like this? */123 * * * * /home/lendon/e.pl -u username -p password -d domain
[23:26] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: ok, that is ntfs then, chang ethe entry in fstab for that partition from ntfs to ntfs-3g
[23:26] <fruit-dude> hello guys, I have a soundblaster audigy 7.1 after a couple of things I googled I managed it to work but just noticed that not sound at flash videos such as youtube and else, what can I do to fix it?? can somebody help me
[23:27] <paul68> fruit-dude: if you let a shell script remove files where do they go any Ideas?
[23:27] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: that is the problem, there is no entry in fstab
[23:27] <fruit-dude> what shell scrip paul68 ??
[23:27] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: do i need to manually add one?
[23:27] <miha> fruit-dude: not sure if it applies to you, but i need to disable built in AC97 motherboard audio, for SB live to work:)
[23:27] <cadman21> can anyone tell me how I can play 3gp videos with sound?
[23:27] <fruit-dude> already did miha
[23:27] <miha> fruit-dude: in bios...
[23:27] <rdw200169> miha, you should be able to do that in the BIOS
[23:27] <miha> oh
[23:27] <miha> yes
[23:27] <Crayboff> ah well I'll assume that it is, thanks again svalenci
[23:27] <fruit-dude> the problem is ffox flash videos
[23:27] <miha> sorry
[23:27] <miha> :)
[23:28] <pike_> fruit-dude: how about if you play the files with like mplayer when they appear in /tmp (all flash files are cached in /tmp when viewed in browser)
[23:28] <FloodBot1> miha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:28] <fruit-dude> else works
[23:28] <rdw200169> miha, that, or you can adjust the pulseaudio configuration to work with the other soundcard
[23:28] <miha> rdw200169: whatever works first
[23:28] <miha> hehe
[23:28] <paul68> fruit-dude: I made a shell script that updates my rar files with pictures found in the Picture folder and delete the files afterwards however I dont know where he stocks the files then?
[23:28] <fruit-dude> pike not acceptable, I wan't my wife to be able to do it
[23:28] <fruit-dude> miha thanks
[23:29] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: <your partition> /media/<mount point> ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.utf8 0 0
[23:29] <sd32> sure wish my usb external sound blaster sound card would work with ubuntu
[23:29] <fruit-dude> paul68 if you rm -f they are gone for ever, sorry
[23:29] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: ok i will try that
[23:29] <paul68> fruit-dude: just using rm
[23:30] <fruit-dude> yes they are gone paul68
[23:30] <paul68> fruit-dude: ok thanks
[23:30] <fruit-dude> just in case
[23:30] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: after you add the entry try    sudo mkdir -p /media/<mount point>
[23:30] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: i just ran the UUID command "blkid" just out of curiosity and it reports the TYPE="vfat" for sda6
[23:30] <fruit-dude> you can sudo updatedb; locate File_name
[23:31] <cadman21> does anyone know anything about 3gp video format?
[23:31] <Rhorse> cadman21, it's the camera vid format i think
[23:31] <unkmar> What is the simpliest method of sharing an internet connection using Ubuntu?
[23:31] <pike_> unkmar: firestarter probably
[23:31] <rdw200169> unkmar, use firestarter... it does it
[23:31] <leeping2007> Hey there.  I'm trying to serve a Ubuntu Hardy Server Install CD over my local network.  My client machine boots but complains that it can't find the CD-ROM.  However, it doesn't actually need the CD-ROM, I think I can simply trick it into thinking there's a CD-ROM by creating a link in the /dev directory ... but what link should I make? Thanks!
[23:31] <cadman21> Rhorse: I have a couple of videos in that format but when I play them they only have video and no sound? is there a way to fix that?
[23:31] <bekks> hi
[23:32] <Rhorse> Yes.
[23:32] <bekks> using hardy LTS, is there a chance to get that intrepid "Create USB install medium" functionality?
[23:32] <fruit-dude> pike_ do you say that no way to configure 7.1 sblaster sound card to work properly web and so?? there has to be a way, I already installed pulse audio but that before I skipped the built-in soundcard
[23:32] <miha> cadman21: well do they originally have sound? that's used by phones to record video
[23:32] <miha> cadman21: on windows, quicktime works to open them
[23:33] <koshari> leeping2007 you will ikely need to create an iso and serve that.
[23:33] <Rhorse> cadman21, VLC will play them just fine.
[23:33] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: $ sudo mount -p sda6
[23:33] <bdelin88> mount: argument to -p or --pass-fd must be a number
[23:33] <unkmar> I have internet via wirless and would like to share the connection via the network card to a hub.
[23:33] <unkmar> In winders XP, I would simply select the 2 interfaces, right click and select bridge.
[23:33] <koshari> cadman21 get the correct codecs
[23:33] <cadman21> miha: yeah I can watch them on windows.
[23:33] <leeping2007> koshari, thanks.  I think I can try that :)
[23:34] <Rhorse> koshari, doesn't need them. vlc handles .3gp fine
[23:34] <unkmar> dang lag..
[23:35] <koshari> Rhorse all the same thats a work around rather than a fix
[23:35] <leeping2007> koshari, but why do I have to serve an iso?  I've extracted the ISO already .. it boots and everything, just complains that it doesn't have a CD-ROM drive
[23:35] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: ok that directory is made
[23:35] <miha> unkmar: http://lindesk.com/2007/04/internet-connection-sharing-using-iptables/ something like this... http://lindesk.com/2007/04/internet-connection-sharing-using-iptables/
[23:35] <Rhorse> Yea, it's a peculiarity of the audio track with that format
[23:35] <miha> sorry for pasting twice:(
[23:35] <fruit-dude> mhh
[23:35]  * unkmar has started install of firestarter.
[23:35] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: then  sudo umount <your partition>
[23:36] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: then    sudo mount -a
[23:36] <koshari> leeping2007 what are you wanting to do? just see files from the remote?
[23:36] <stermi> hi all, someone used CUnit? I need to know which is the packages and where it will be installed
[23:36] <Rhorse> koshari, it uses a very low bit rate audio sample rate for economy on cell phones
[23:36] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: do i umount sda6, /media/sda6, or /dev/sda6, because it says all three are not mounted
[23:37] <Ms_Hutch> i have two sound cards (on built in on motherboard) and I am trying to use the motherboards sound card for skype and all other sound with the other card... the other card is working fine and the speakers to the builtin card work but not the microphone.  can anyone help?
[23:37] <koshari> Rhorse iam aware of 3gp , my nokia records it natively
[23:37] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: you can try that one, but when you run mount -a it will try to mount everything
[23:37] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: looks like there's a problem with the formatting
[23:37] <bdelin88> NTFS signature is missing.
[23:37] <cadman21> Rhorse: is there a VLC plugin for movie player?
[23:37] <bdelin88> Failed to mount '/dev/sda6': Invalid argument
[23:37] <bdelin88> The device '/dev/sda6' doesn't have a valid NTFS.
[23:37] <bdelin88> Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a
[23:37] <bdelin88> partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[23:37] <FloodBot1> bdelin88: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:37] <keithclark> Hi there, I get no sound at all out of my system....how to begin troubleshooting?
[23:37] <Rhorse> koshari, right :)
[23:37] <pike_> fruit-dude: im sure you can get it to work. sure youre using the adobe plugin an not the open source flash?
[23:37] <koshari> keithclark to begin with have you checked the mixer
[23:37] <fruit-dude> keithclark, do you have more than 1 sound card?
[23:37] <miha> keithclark: by dmesg | less
[23:37] <keithclark> yes
[23:38] <keithclark> One sound card
[23:38] <miha> keithclark: then  alsamixer ?
[23:38] <dli> keithclark, 1) run alsaconf as root 2) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out and log in again) 3) use alsamixer and unmute channels and raise levels (also try muting some channels) 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) modprobe snd-pcm-oss  8) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? Test your sound with aplay and a wav so codec issues don't confuse the situation. <list alsa users>
[23:38] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111902/
[23:38] <Rhorse> cadman21, no
[23:38] <miha> hehe
[23:38] <leeping2007> koshari, I would like my client machine to install the Hardy server over the network, as if I had inserted a CD
[23:38] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, what sound system does Skype use? /dev/dsp right?
[23:38] <keithclark> dli, holy cow!
[23:38] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: i posted the problem there but it looks like there is an ntfs problem, is there a better thing to use than cfdisk from the command line?
[23:38] <Rhorse> cadman21, why you just install vlc?
[23:38] <CyberGabber> keithclark: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[23:38] <koshari> leeping2007 it would need to be booted from the medium to do that
[23:39] <leeping2007> koshari, I've done it before ... it was a year ago though :P
[23:39] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: did you format that whole drive as ntfs or just a section of it
[23:39] <cadman21> Rhorse: sudo apt-get insatll VLC?
[23:39] <leeping2007> The client machine doesn't have a CD-ROM drive
[23:39] <Rhorse> cadman sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:39] <keithclark> CyberGabber, I went through that and I'm here
[23:39] <Ms_Hutch> rdw200169, i am not sure... under the setting I can choose the card and it gives hw:Intel,1 information for each card
[23:39] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: it is a partition of the entire hard drive, and yes i formatted the whole partition ntfs
[23:39] <comacity> hello my friends
[23:39] <cadman21> Rhorse: thanks a ton
[23:39] <xbmc> No package 'xorg-server' found
[23:39] <koshari> leeping2007 use a usb install medium
[23:39] <Rhorse> cadman21, no problem
[23:40] <xbmc> what is causing that??
[23:40] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, ah, that's alsa; do you know what sound system the rest of your computer is using; pulseaudio i think is the default now
[23:40] <laughyn1nj4> what are boot images, and why does GRUB need them?
[23:40] <keithclark> Ok, thanks....sound seems to be a problem.
[23:40] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: use fdisk and grep again to list all ntfs partitions
[23:40] <Ms_Hutch> rdw200169, i am running kde so i believe it is alsa as well
[23:40] <leeping2007> koshari, I could, but it's just so much less cool :)
[23:40] <bdelin88> 1 sec
[23:41] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: 1 sec
[23:41] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, well, you can just change the device in that Skype config, perhaps to hw:<other card>
[23:41] <koshari> leeping2007 i beleive what you were proposing is possable via a network connection, i saw a few people doing so at a LUG nite once
[23:42] <stermi> someone used CUnit?
[23:42] <leeping2007> koshari, I think I got it to work at some point -- I had to make the installer OS believe that the CD-ROM was mounted
[23:42] <Ms_Hutch> rdw200169, that is what i am trying... but it seems that no matter what I choose it does not work
[23:42] <leeping2007> but I actually don't remember how to do that
[23:42] <koshari> leeping2007 http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/10/08/how-to-install-ubuntu-locally-over-the-network/
[23:42] <keithclark> So there is no easy problem to sound problems?  I see tons showing up here.
[23:42] <leeping2007> koshari, I'll look at that. Thanks :)
[23:43] <koshari> leeping2007 it would appear you need the alt disc
[23:43] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, if your system is using pulseaudio, you may be running into the issues outlined here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[23:44] <leeping2007> koshari, yeah .. I think I'll either get that or do a regular network install (use a minimal image and download stuff from an Ubuntu mirror)
[23:44] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, because Skype doesn't work *at all* right?
[23:44] <Wicked> !iphone
[23:44] <Wicked> !ipod
[23:44] <dougl> I just configured my 8.10 box for static ip and now it cannot do dns lookup - any suggestions?
[23:44] <vlt> Hello. I want to install install several Linux and non-Linux OS on an x86-64 machine. What can you reccommend? Should I go for XEN or KVM?
[23:44] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: here is what happens with each instance: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111907/
[23:44] <xbmc> dougl: configure the name servers
[23:44] <keithclark> Ok, back to xp.......sound works there.  Thanks though for the tips, I appreciated those.
[23:44] <initial_B> !ccvp
[23:45] <pike_> dougl: cat /etc/resolv.conf any nameservers listed?
[23:45] <fruit-dude> installing swfdec-mozilla pike_
[23:46] <dougl> pike_, xbmc  I put 2 lines in there 64.59.176.13 and 64.59.176.15 - one on each line... is that correct?
[23:46] <mrwes> is there a minimal install of Ubuntu?
[23:46] <fruit-dude> installing swfdec-mozilla pike_ ← that worked
[23:46] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: any thoughts?
[23:46] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: that's okay, but if there is not any data on the drive you want to keep, I would suggest using gparted to delete the partition and then reformat to whatever you like
[23:46] <Gerinych> how do i repair a ntfs partition?
[23:46] <koshari> mrwes yes
[23:46] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, it's important to know if you're running pulseaudio; that and what version of ubuntu you're using, i.e. 8.04 or 8.10
[23:46] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: can i do that from the command line?
[23:46] <xbmc> dougl: no, its "nameserver 1.1.1.1"
[23:46] <xbmc> not just the ip
[23:46] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: sudo apt-get install gparted
[23:46] <dougl> I dunno if the syntax is right... man /etc/resolv.conf
[23:46] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, you can find out if pulseaudio is running by using the command: ps -AF | grep pulseaudio
[23:46] <mrwes> koshari: hrmm...that's a big help
[23:47] <Ms_Hutch> rdw200169, skype works except for voicecalls and only the mic does not work on that
[23:47] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: there is a gui for gparted
[23:47] <pike_> dougl: yeah nameserver <ip> you can have multiple ones
[23:47] <keithclark> Ok, I also have a website where I recommend distos, should I just not recomed Ubuntu due to sound problems?  It seems to be the main problem.
[23:47] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: i have to use the command line
[23:47] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, ah, you led me to believe that it wasn't doing *anything*
[23:47] <mrwes> :)
[23:47] <dougl> xbmc, pike_ ok - thanks guys :)
[23:47] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: i am trying to figure this out for intrepid server
[23:47] <pike_> dougl: bear in mind this isnt a static file its overwritten quite often
[23:47] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, run that command to see if pulseaudio is being used; it may be
[23:48] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: it is gui only isn't it?
[23:48] <dougl> pike_, ok thanks for the tip
[23:48] <stermi_> hi all, someone used CUnit? I need to know which is the packages and where it will be installed
[23:48] <Ms_Hutch> rdw200169, i get 1000   7780 7571 0 796 0 15:47 pts/1   00:00:00 grep pulseaudio
[23:48] <keithclark> Ok, I guess my message did not get out.  Later
[23:48] <xbmc> checking for XORG... configure: error: Package requirements (xorg-server xproto fontsproto ) were not met:
[23:48] <xbmc> No package 'xorg-server' found
[23:49] <rdw200169> Ms_Hutch, ok, then, no pulseaudio
[23:49] <gvalfer> fala-se portugues aqui?
[23:49] <fruit-dude> nope gvalfer  english only
[23:49] <fruit-dude> sorry
[23:49] <gvalfer> lol
[23:49] <gvalfer> ok :p
[23:49] <xbmc> i believe xorg-server is installed I just need to specify where it is
[23:49] <xbmc> how do I do that?
[23:50] <lifenova> !br | gvalfer
[23:50] <racecar-56> help i have some weird message
[23:50] <koshari> mrwes you can download the minimal net install iso or strip unneeded packages from ubuntu-desktop or server
[23:50] <racecar-56> * You have an incomplete /etc/xsp2/debian.webapp
[23:50] <racecar-56> * To fix it, you need to install at least one package for xsp2 (like
[23:50] <racecar-56> asp.net-examples)
[23:50] <sasquatch_> hi, I'm running 8.04 and looking to free up some HDD space, is it ok to remove old linux header/image packages?
[23:50] <racecar-56> yes
[23:50] <racecar-56> just don't remove your current ones
[23:50] <sasquatch_> i thought so, just wanted to be certain, thank you
[23:50] <racecar-56> how can i fix my weird error
[23:51] <stermi_> hi all, someone used CUnit? I need to know which is the packages and where it will be installed
[23:51] <racecar-56> i get this on the startup on CTRL+ALT+F8
[23:51] <racecar-56> * You have an incomplete /etc/xsp2/debian.webapp
[23:51] <racecar-56> * To fix it, you need to install at least one package for xsp2 (like
[23:51] <racecar-56> asp.net-examples)
[23:51] <FloodBot1> racecar-56: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:51] <fruit-dude> sasquatch_ sudo apt-get autoclean
[23:51] <cadman21> Rhorse: would it matter if the people were speaking French in the video? because I still am not getting any sound...
[23:51] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: any ideas man?
[23:51] <mrwes> !dual
[23:51] <mrwes> !grub
[23:51] <sasquatch_> I've done that, it still shows up in synaptic
[23:52] <racecar-56> !command
[23:52] <miha> cadman21: lol
[23:52] <racecar-56> what is the ! thing, lol
[23:52] <ruben23> hi how to set hostname on ubuntu..
[23:52] <Rhorse> cadman21, hmm, I didn't have a problem on this Feisty machine with vlc.
[23:52] <racecar-56> !lolwutpear
[23:52] <racecar-56> heehee
[23:52] <KDesk> Some body know a PPA repo for Gimp stable?
[23:52] <sockets> is it just me or do media players not work if you got a video on pause?
[23:52] <racecar-56> errr
[23:52] <racecar-56> hey KDesk
[23:52] <raevol> hey guys, i don't have an option under System > Preferences for enabling remote desktop, did this get moved?
[23:52] <racecar-56> get a deb
[23:52] <FloodBot1> racecar-56: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:52] <racecar-56> getdeb.net
[23:52] <Rhorse> cadman21, does your sound work ok otherwise?
[23:52] <ruben23> and also how about domain name...
[23:52] <racecar-56> i have a ppa but i dont use it
[23:52] <racecar-56> how do i put deb packages on it?
[23:53] <Rhorse> does vlc play other formats with sound?
[23:53] <lifenova> raevol: It might be removed from the GNOME main menu, check that with System -> Prefs -> Main Menu
[23:53] <TuxSympathiser> Ubuntu randomly freezes, can anybody help me with this issue?
[23:53] <KDesk> racecar-56: ah, good idea, thanks :)
[23:53] <miha> ruben23:  /etc/hostname
[23:53] <racecar-56> yw
[23:53] <sockets> TuxSympathiser: which version of ubuntu do you have?
[23:53] <bdelin88> HOW THE F*K DO YOU SIMPLY MAKE AN NTFS PARTITION IN LINUX WITH THE COMMAND LINE, GOOD GOD
[23:53] <racecar-56> how do i put debs on a [[a?
[23:53] <fruit-dude> ruben23 edit /etc/hosts
[23:53] <cadman21> Rhorse: yep on everything else but these to videos.. my brother is taking a French class and they are for that..
[23:53] <racecar-56> ppa*
[23:54] <TuxSympathiser> sockets, 8.10
[23:54] <bdelin88> why do i always waste my life trying to solve linux-related issues
[23:54] <lifenova> bdelin88: mkfs is the command for making a file system, but use it with care... read the man pages first too
[23:54] <BluesKaj> what's the RSS feed client in ubuntu ?
[23:54] <racecar-56> liferea if u install it?
[23:54] <racecar-56> (its on getdeb)
[23:54] <sd32> !manners
[23:54] <TuxSympathiser> sockets, it only freezes when the ethernet is connected and I change the power source
[23:54] <sockets> bdelin88, gparted?
[23:54] <bdelin88> sockets: command line
[23:55] <sockets> TuxSympathiser: use 8.04, 8.10 is unstable, people seem to be having freezing issues
[23:55] <stermi_> exit
[23:55] <cadman21> Rhorse: kinda a different subject but do you know anything about watching tv shows on ABC's website? he said he can't do that either...
[23:55] <stermi_> quit
[23:55] <racecar-56> i like 8.10
[23:55] <TuxSympathiser> sockets, I disabled acpi in menu.lst and that fixed it
[23:55] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: youhad it right man, using fdisk (sudo fdisk /dev/sdb or whatever)
[23:55] <bdelin88> sockets: to my knowledge, gparted is gui
[23:55] <racecar-56> 8.04 is too old
[23:55] <racecar-56> does it have gcc 4.3 packages?
[23:55] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: why does it not mount?
[23:55] <Rhorse> cadman21, try here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178455
[23:55] <TuxSympathiser> sockets, the same happend in 8.04
[23:55] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: it says it is not a valid ntfs
[23:55] <racecar-56> ntfs?
[23:55] <racecar-56> why ntfs?
[23:56] <Rhorse> cadman21, on the browser or?
[23:56] <racecar-56> isnt it a ext2/3 volume u have?
[23:56] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: that wont mount the disk, it will allow you to delete, partition etc
[23:56] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: which there are 3 different ntfs options in cfdisk, why in the world there needs to be 80 different partition selections is beyond me
[23:56] <racecar-56> yeah rly
[23:56] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: right, but i need make sure it is a proper ntfs
[23:56] <raevol> lifenova: thanks
[23:56] <lifenova> raevol: no problem :)
[23:56] <pike_> raevol: 4.2.4 gcc in 8.04
[23:56] <racecar-56> ack
[23:56] <racecar-56> old
[23:57] <patmanpato> just a general question, how long could you expect you're average ($100?) uninteruptible power supply to last before dying off?
[23:57] <racecar-56> d'oh! kino 1.3.3 is out
[23:57] <patmanpato> your*
[23:57] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: I have no way of knowing which ntfs partition is what
[23:57] <pike_> racecar-56: gcc just gets worse as it ages anyway :)
[23:57] <sockets> TuxSympathiser: not really sure, sorry.
[23:57] <racecar-56> orly?
[23:57] <cadman21> Rhorse: yeah in firefox. youtube works but not ABC for some reason.
[23:57] <sweetgum> is there a man page for the kernel source? if so, how can i install it?
[23:57] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: i have a few ntfs options: HPFS/NTFS, NTFS volume set, and NTFS volume set
[23:58] <exodus_ms> bdelin88: how 'physical' hdd's are installed
[23:58] <racecar-56> i thought 8.10 was stable and 8.04 was proven stable
[23:58] <Rhorse> yea, i'm not familiar with that one. Do you have the latest flash?
[23:58] <racecar-56> i use swfdec
[23:58] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: what?
[23:58] <Rhorse> cadman21, yea, i'm not familiar with that one. Do you have the latest flash?
[23:58] <pike_> sweetgum: your better off with a full blown guide from the wiki or the forums. linux kernel compile isnt awful but its nowhere near as slick as say freebsd etc
[23:58] <koshari> racecar-56 there both stable one is jsut LTS
[23:59] <racecar-56> ok
[23:59] <Zenitur> I found the bug of ext4. I compiled 2.6.28.2 and make /home as ext4. It works, but executable files can't be started from ext4 partition. Permissions Denided. For root - too. I return ext3 and all works fine. Does it a kernel bug, or not?
[23:59] <TuxSympathiser> sockets, ok thanks anyway
[23:59] <sweetgum> pike_: maybe you could help me out, do you know what kalloc does?
[23:59] <sexcopter> for those interested, a lesson on how to run a bug jam should be starting in a mo in #ubuntu-classroom