[02:07] <Flannel> ubottu: Tell Bsims-Smoking about away
[02:08] <Flannel> mmm
[02:08] <Flannel> ubottu: tell Bsims-Smoking about away
[02:38]  * Flannel wonders why no one listens to the guy saying "its doable, you just have to do some other stuff"
[02:38] <nickrud> too many cooks, sometimes it's hard to figure out who's the chef
[02:38] <Flannel> I tend to just wait for someone to give me the floor, heh.
[02:41] <Flannel> sigh.
[02:42] <nickrud> sometimes it's worth offering a pm
[02:42] <Flannel> With the level of incompetency being slung around, It'd almost justify a cinnamon roll (and if this were a fantasy, +m)
[02:43] <nickrud> heh. Well, it is #ubuntu, and it's still good all in all
[02:46] <Flannel> nickrud: I never had a facotid
[02:46] <nickrud> no? I though there was something about warm and fuzzy at one point
[02:46] <nickrud> may have been transient :)
[02:46] <Flannel> !-flannel
[02:46] <Flannel> nope
[02:46] <Flannel> not even forgotten
[02:56] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: That;s not offtopic in the support channel at all.
[02:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Flannel  and theres lots of people saying that there's other alternatives. So, why ubuntu and not other distributions?      is clearly discussion
[02:58] <Flannel> Jack_Sparrow: No, he asked which Ubuntu flavor.  Anyone else giving him "Fedora" or whatnot answers would be answering the wrong question/whatever.  His question is entirely valid.  Also, no one else answered anything remotely like that.
[02:59] <Flannel> ubottu: tell racecar-56 about away
[03:00] <Flannel> Just because something doesn't have a purely technical answer doesn't mean its not support.
[03:00] <Flannel> I fully agree that discussions are offtopic, but this wasn't a discussion type question.
[03:56] <bazhang> @login
[04:55] <tritium> Good evening.
[05:56] <nickrud> dang tritium, you made me miss the climax of the show :(
[05:56] <tritium> nickrud: me?
[05:56] <tritium> Or those trolls?
[05:56] <nickrud> yeah, I'm always attracted to the off topic stuff ;()
[05:57] <tritium> It seems we always have trouble from the arch crowd
[05:57] <nickrud> bet they're comparing debian stable to ubuntu, which I think everyone can agree is the wrong comparison when it comes to stability
[05:58] <tritium> True.
[06:30] <tritium> nickrud: cool tradmark logo.
[06:30] <tritium> How'd you do that?
[06:30] <nickrud> I've got that aliased as wfm, and I used the char picker to create it
[06:30] <nickrud> it's a unicode char
[06:31] <tritium> Ah, ok.
[06:35] <nickrud> omg. the iphone has a level app
[06:35] <tritium> sweet
[06:36] <nickrud> if I could only justify $100/mo for a phone ...
[06:36] <tritium> Not me.
[06:58] <nickrud> I think we're getting  ready for a bot attack in #ubuntu; cahaya*
[07:01] <Flannel> weeee
[07:01] <tritium> Hello, Flannel.
[07:01] <Flannel> Its all the same IP though, that seems odd.
[07:01] <Flannel> Howdy
[07:02] <nickrud> said hi to the -opr, he said hi, then quit
[07:12] <Flannel> Inviting him here
[07:12] <tritium> OK.
[07:12] <Flannel> He's regularly abusive in #electronics, I figure we ought to nip it in the bud
[07:12] <Flannel> his quiet is for 10 minutes, in case anyone was wondering.
[07:12] <tritium> he's PMing me
[07:13] <Flannel> Me too "eat me"
[07:13] <Flannel> Right.  Looks like this isn't going anywhere.
[07:13] <nickrud> Flannel, how do you know him in electronics? You hang out there also?
[07:13] <Flannel> Aye
[07:13] <Flannel> Well, I don't know him, but I've seen him/etc
[07:13] <nickrud> I knew what you meant 
[07:13] <Flannel> I was surprised he only said "Stupid canuck" once.  Usually its like eight in a row.
[07:14] <Flannel> tritium: What's he PMing you regarding?
[07:14] <nickrud> gah. Probably from minnestoa
[07:14] <tritium> Was he calling me that?
[07:14] <Flannel> Nah, thats... just... his alternative to swearing, ro something.
[07:14] <Flannel> Except, he then swears anyway.
[07:14] <tritium> Flannel: believe it or not, he's still asking me for help
[07:14] <Flannel> He's from PA
[07:15] <tritium> Flannel: he's not coming, I guess
[07:16] <Flannel> I doubt it, yes.
[07:18] <Flannel> Think it'd help if I just forwarded here?  Or would that be far too optimistic
[07:18] <tritium> Go for it.
[07:20] <tritium> Looks like he got it figured out.
[07:20] <tritium> He just PMed me:  That worked.  tnx.
[07:20] <Flannel> I'm just going to ignore it.  the mute times out in a minute, he's not in #u anymore
[07:20] <tritium> ok
[07:23] <Flannel> ushdf.... that's...  a familiar host
[07:24] <Flannel> possible ban evasions at that
[07:24] <tritium> Yes...
[07:24] <tritium> I remember syr.edu
[07:25] <tritium> I think the former nick started with the letter "o"
[07:25] <Flannel> He's... definately trolling now.
[07:25] <Flannel> PresidentRaffi, it looks like?
[07:25] <nickrud> oh yeah
[07:25] <tritium> Definitely a formerly banned person.
[07:25] <nickrud> definitely bannable now
[07:26] <tritium> @login
[07:26] <tritium> @btlogin
[07:28] <tritium> Yeah, good memory, Flannel, unless you had already looked at bantracker
[07:29] <Flannel> Nah, I just remembered the syr.edu
[07:30] <tritium> Syracuse University.
[07:30] <Flannel> Is that what it is?
[07:30] <tritium> Yes.
[07:31] <tritium> I'm craving an In-N-Out Burger.  Wish we had one here...
[07:32]  * Flannel won't mention what he had for lunch.
[07:32] <nickrud> hm. I haven't had one recently, there's one 5 min away ...
[07:32] <tritium> wiseguy
[07:32] <tritium> make that plural!
[07:35] <Flannel> buntulover trolling?
[07:35] <tritium> yes
[07:36] <ushdf_> how am i to become unbanned from the ubuntu channel
[07:37] <ushdf_> whatever
[07:37] <ushdf_> i'm too cool for you guys
[07:37] <nickrud> stop trolling
[07:37] <nickrud> that's all it takes, really
[07:38] <ushdf_> what slander that is
[07:38] <ushdf_> trolling is the modern satire baby
[07:38] <tritium> Nonesense.  You know exactly what you've done.
[07:38] <ushdf_> i'm well aware of what i've done
[07:38] <nickrud> choose a better venue for satire. 
[07:38] <ushdf_> that doesn't entail that i should be ashamed of it
[07:38] <nickrud> we don't want you to be wasting your time where no one understands it
[07:39] <ushdf_> how altruistic your intentions are
[07:39] <tritium> ushdf_: yes it does.  Not only tonight, but in the past as PresidentRaffi.
[07:39] <ushdf_> i liked it better when i was PresidentFaggot
[07:39] <ushdf_> but you guys didn't like that as much
[07:40] <tritium> I'm hungry.
[07:40] <tritium> I think I'll go grab a snack, and then get to bed.
[07:40] <tritium> Have a good night, gentlemen.
[07:41] <nickrud> you also
[07:41] <tritium> Thanks.
[07:41]  * nickrud goes to drive in
[07:41] <tritium> Rub it in, why don't you.  ;)
[07:43] <Flannel> Oh blah
[07:43] <nickrud> yep, a troll
[07:45]  * Flannel notes that someone thought mibbit would save them.
[07:45] <nickrud> I'm out flannel, have a productive night
[07:46]  * Flannel won't be up for much longer.  But, I will!
[07:46] <Flannel> My weekend is already packed.  8 to late both days!
[07:46]  * nickrud tries to parse that
[07:46] <Flannel> nickrud: Its second person, but only because (1+3)/2 == 2
[07:47] <nickrud> is true
[07:47] <Flannel> Oh
[07:47] <Flannel> Hi Mamarok, How can we help you?
[07:47] <Mamarok> hi, could someone go to #edubuntu please? it's getting really annoying
[07:48] <Mamarok> there's a guy called sumone making fun of a typo in the webpage, unfortunately thetre's nobody awake to change it right now as it seams so he is trolling around
[07:48] <Flannel> Mamarok: Who is it?
[07:48] <Mamarok> sumone
[07:49] <Flannel> Alright, I'll keep an eye.
[07:50] <Flannel> Mamarok: what exactly is he making fun of?
[07:51] <Mamarok> there's a typo in one of the Edubuntu pages
[07:51] <Mamarok> and he is trolling around about that
[07:51] <Mamarok> wait, give you a pastebin
[07:51] <Flannel> nickrud, bazhang: Our last troll (from mibbit) was SquareHimself, and was actually still in the channel on his other account (and historically was semi-trolling on that one too)
[07:51] <Flannel> Mamarok: Much appreciated
[07:52] <Flannel> Mamarok: actually, Hobbsee has woken up, she's been in there the whole time?
[07:53] <Mamarok> Flannel: http://pastebin.ca/1323484
[07:53] <Mamarok> no, she just arrived now
[07:54] <bazhang> he was briefly trolling (sumone) in #ubuntu
[07:54] <bazhang> the arch fellow are organizing raids against many channels it seems (unrelated to sumone afaik)
[07:55] <Flannel> bazhang: joy.  Why don't they do one at a time I can participate?
[07:56] <bazhang> Flannel, they are getting totally out of control; not going to waste time with them any longer
[08:01] <Mamarok> thanks for reacting folks, still have to learn a few irc commands :)
[08:14] <Flannel> !idle
[08:14] <Flannel> !idle =~ s/here, /here /
[08:14] <Flannel> !idle-#ubuntu-ops =~ s/here, /here /
[08:14] <Flannel> !idle
[08:15] <Flannel> !idle-#ubuntu-ops =~ s/only, and we/only; we/
[08:15] <Flannel> !idle
[08:15] <Flannel> Much better.
[08:51] <jussi01> morning all
[11:52] <jpds> !ext4
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !btlogin
[14:37] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[15:14] <Seeker`> !google
[15:14] <Seeker`> !googlebroken
[15:15] <Seeker`> !googlebroken is <reply> Yes, we know google is broken, you don't need to tell us. And no, we dont know what has happened, and wild speculation doesn't help.
[15:17] <Seeker`> is it possible to get edit privileges for factoids on ubot4 at all, or is it just a case of waiting for it to listen to ubottu?
[15:17] <Pricey> We're not google! :)
[15:17] <Seeker`> seeing as thats the bot in -uk
[15:22] <topyli> was broken here in finland too, now fixed
[15:24] <topyli> arrrrr you weren't talking about google and .uk there. nevermind
[15:24] <Seeker`> ubottu: forget googlebroken
[15:39] <The-Compiler> Hi there
[15:39] <Seeker`> hi
[15:39] <Seeker`> how can we help you?
[15:39] <The-Compiler> Is ubottu an infobot (I mean that infobot by Tim Riker based on perl, not the word infobot) or something self-written?
[15:40] <Seeker`> it is based on supybot
[15:40] <jpds> !botclone
[15:40] <The-Compiler> Any chance to get the database as an ASCII file so I can write a small converter to import the factoids into my infobot?
[15:41] <Seeker`> bot stuff is handled in #ubuntu-ircbots-team I believe
[15:42] <The-Compiler> Okay will try that
[15:43] <The-Compiler> Seeker`: wait... you are the Seeker from Germany near of the Netherlands I know through Skype? =D
[15:43] <Seeker`> no
[15:44] <The-Compiler> okay, thanks :)
[16:42] <bazhang> @bansearch helpdesk|vb
[16:44] <stdin> if the nick isn't online you need to give a hostmask
[16:46] <bazhang> seems to me this helpdesk in #kubuntu was the same helpdesk who briefly changed to helpdesk|vb for blatant trolling in #ubuntu the other day before being removed
[16:46] <bazhang> err terrible grammar and syntax there
[16:47] <bazhang> things like 'do a double clean fresh install' to everyone no matter their issue
[16:47] <jussi01> @bansearch helpdesk
[16:47] <stdin> but helpdesk|vb was from xs4all.nl, helpdesk is from inet.fi
[16:47] <bazhang> perhaps !fi ?
[16:48] <bazhang> he seems not to understand anything, yet wishes to compile a kernel, has changing stories about whether he is using kubuntu in a vm or ubuntu installed 
[16:48] <stdin> maybe better to say "if you'd prefer help in Finnish ..."
[16:50] <topyli> or "Apua suomeksi saa kanavalta #ubuntu-fi"
[16:50] <stdin> then you run the risk of them thinking you know the language and talking to you in it ;)
[16:50] <stdin> running back and forth from bablefish
[16:50] <topyli> hehe
[16:51] <topyli> -fi is pretty good, there is help there
[16:51] <topyli> stdin: fyi, i'm a finn myself :)
[16:51] <bazhang> well considering linux and irc were invented there, not surprising
[16:51] <stdin> topyli: I guessed that
[16:52] <bazhang> dont know how he can possibly compile a kernel though
[16:53] <stdin> but do you want a person that doesn't know how to copy/paste in -fi? :p
[16:53] <bazhang> haha
[16:53] <topyli> there is <mib_dnvab9l4> do you people talk there now
[16:53] <topyli> wonder if that's the same person
[16:54] <topyli> stdin: not really :)
[16:54] <topyli> ah looks like the mibbit person was there accidentally
[16:56] <topyli> anyway, my sauna is hot now! i'll be back in an hour if concsious
[16:57] <stdin> steam away :)
[17:03] <stdin> bazhang: you forgot to tell him to go to the source dir of the kernel, how could you make such a mistake </sarcasm>
[17:03] <bazhang> stdin, oh srry
[17:04] <stdin> bazhang: if they try asking for more specific help, then I think it's time to point them to ##linux ;)
[17:05] <bazhang> stdin, he is all over the place with just the basic stuff, dont see how he can possibly compile a kernel (will do on re-directing)
[18:18] <bazhang> * [lkgfjsa] (n=owwmmw@c-24-91-146-75.hsd1.ct.comcast.net): wmdm  trolling?
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Incomming
[18:18] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, how may we help you
[18:18] <lkgfjsa> I have a complaint
[18:19] <lkgfjsa> I messaged something to Jack_Sparrow in private and he brought the conversation out into the main window
[18:20] <Jack_Sparrow> When was this and what was the message
[18:20] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, did you ask to PM?
[18:20] <lkgfjsa> i asked if i could ask him something then /noticed him
[18:20] <Jack_Sparrow> and when.. I dont remember any PM from you
[18:20] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, and the specific complaint is?
[18:21] <lkgfjsa> I messaged something to Jack_Sparrow in private and he brought the conversation out into the main window
[18:21] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, okay, and what is the substance of the complaint?
[18:21] <lkgfjsa> I messaged something to Jack_Sparrow in private and he brought the conversation out into the main window
[18:21] <bazhang> !pm
[18:21]  * Nafallo waits for the repeat kicks to come alive :-)
[18:21] <lkgfjsa> i didnt pm him
[18:22] <Jack_Sparrow> You asked to ask me a question I didnt notice the -in front of your nick.. I responded in channel for you to ask, as long as it was support related
[18:22] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, so all users could see it?
[18:22] <bazhang> seems like a notice qualifies as private imo
[18:22] <lkgfjsa> i asked if i could ask him something then /noticed him
[18:23] <Jack_Sparrow> -lkgfjsa- I encrypted an entire drive with truecrypt, but now I cant find it. It's disappeared. Where did it go?
[18:23] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, so that is the entirety of your complaint?
[18:23] <lkgfjsa> I messaged something to Jack_Sparrow in private and he brought the conversation out into the main window
[18:23] <bazhang> that you PM'd someone and then he answered in the main channel?
[18:24] <lkgfjsa> i asked if i could ask him something then /noticed him
[18:24] <lkgfjsa> this is growing tiresome
[18:24] <bazhang> hardly qualifies as complaint material
[18:25] <lkgfjsa> i see. please make a note in your channel heading that no pms can be promised to be kept confidential
[18:25] <bazhang> more eyeballs on a question means more people can chip in and make corrections, thus PM's are discouraged
[18:26] <lkgfjsa> nor /notices
[18:26] <bazhang> no need
[18:26] <bazhang> there is the !pm factoid
[18:27] <bazhang> plus channel operators need to keep an eye peeled for in-channel issues as #ubuntu is a shared resource, and not just about a single person's needs
[18:27] <lkgfjsa> then make a note of that in the channel header
[18:27] <bazhang> and as #ubuntu is the largest channel on freenode, a very large user base requires vigilant attention
[18:28] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, no need.
[18:28] <lkgfjsa> people dont automatically know to message ubottu when they come in with !pm
[18:29] <bazhang> then they are told once they do.
[18:29] <lkgfjsa> thus there is a need for advanced warning
[18:29] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, thanks for the suggestion.
[18:29] <lkgfjsa> advance*
[18:29] <bazhang> lkgfjsa, if there is nothing else, then please dont idle here
[18:30] <bazhang> I would guess he doesnt usually use that nick
[18:30] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[18:31] <bazhang> some slight from the past I would imagine and the whole /notice issue was a pretext to complain
[18:31] <bazhang> or rather imagined slight
[18:31] <Jack_Sparrow> I guess..  seems silly
[18:32] <bazhang> I should complain about indygunfreak /notice'ing me :)
[18:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Thanks.. I needed a laugh
[18:32] <bazhang> mountain meet molehill
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> I just put /boot onto a cd .. has potential and works
[18:33] <bazhang> nice
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Im thinking dd of mbr and a few goodies on there, and it might be even better.
[18:35] <Jack_Sparrow> I am looking to automate recovering mbr after installing windows type of disk
[18:38] <bazhang> someone should watch -ot for the mib character
[18:39] <bazhang> ah he quit
[18:41] <bazhang> * [frokensen] (i=frokense@217.201.83.20): Frickentausen new name same talk
[19:00] <bazhang> he was trolling for a good long while there, plenty of warnings to take it offtopic
[19:01] <bazhang> both as frokenson and the mibbit user he was before
[19:01] <ikonia> waste of time
[19:01] <bazhang> yep
[19:11] <tritium> ikonia: you kicked the wrong nick, I believe
[19:11] <ikonia> done it and pm'd him
[19:11] <ikonia> with apologies
[19:11] <tritium> Ah, ok
[19:11] <tritium> Sorry, we were both after the same dude, probably.
[19:12] <ikonia> totally
[19:12] <ikonia> you got just before me
[19:12] <tritium> yup
[19:17] <ikonia> can someone please remove frokensen from #ubuntu-offtopic pleases
[19:24] <tritium> ikonia: I just joined.  I'll watch him.
[19:24] <ikonia> ta
[19:25] <tritium> Or shall I just remove him straight away?
[19:25] <ikonia> first sign of anything - just remove, he's removed from #ubuntu and been a pain in ##windows and #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:25] <ikonia> he's had enough warnings
[19:25] <tritium> OK.
[19:28] <tritium> He's gone quiet on you, ikonia.
[19:28] <ikonia> good
[19:29] <tritium> ikonia: if I miss something, ping me.  I'm not able to fully monitor it.
[19:32] <ikonia> no sweat
[19:32] <ikonia> all good
[19:36] <Myrtti> heeeeeelllo
[19:38] <Seeker`> hi Myrtti 
[19:38] <Seeker`> still in the UK, or have you run away
[19:44] <tritium> Hello, gnomefreak.
[19:44] <tritium> Hi Myrtti.
[19:44] <gnomefreak> hello
[19:46] <tritium> ikonia: he just left
[19:46] <ikonia> good
[19:49] <Myrtti> Seeker`: leaving tomorrow, trying to hold my tears in
[19:52] <Seeker`> Myrtti: :(
[20:21] <Jack_Sparrow> @login
[20:21] <Jack_Sparrow> @btlogin
[20:25] <tritium> ubottu: belay that order!
[20:26] <tritium> :)
[20:26] <tritium> Jack_Sparrow: just a little pirate humor ;)
[20:51] <tritium> ikonia: I left -offtopic (had enough)
[21:40] <Myrtti> oh good god I have to name this pictures as well...
[21:51] <Seeker`> ?
[21:52] <Myrtti> I just uploaded 50M worth of pictures and video to flickr
[21:53] <Seeker`> wow
[22:03] <Myrtti> http://flickr.com/photos/myrtti/archives/date-taken/2009/01/31/
[22:03] <Myrtti> Pwuh.
[22:05] <Seeker`> Myrtti: very nice
[22:07] <Myrtti> oh, have to take one more picture
[22:08] <Seeker`> Myrtti: lots of car travel pics
[22:11] <Seeker`> I'm heading past cambridge tomorrow
[22:13] <Myrtti> and I'm leaving tomorrow... *sigh*
[22:14] <Seeker`> well, I'm heading to my girlfriends parents for the day
[22:14] <Seeker`> its a bit further east than cambridge
[22:15] <Myrtti> I'm staying in snuggling and crying and staying in bed with bucket of ice cream
[22:33] <Seeker`> sounds fun
[22:33] <Seeker`> apart from the crying
[22:33] <Myrtti> and then I'll pack my bag and be driven to Stansted.
[22:33] <Myrtti> and then I'll go home.
[22:36] <Seeker`> :(
[23:25] <Gary> colchester is just east of stansted
[23:31] <Seeker`> Gary: well done
[23:31] <Seeker`> did you have to look at a map? :P
[23:31] <Gary> Seeker`: woot, my geography!!!
[23:31] <Seeker`> :D
[23:31] <Gary> Seeker`: yes!
[23:31] <Seeker`> haha
[23:32] <Gary> (I meant Myrtti could come visit)
[23:39] <jussi01> Seeker`:  uno?
[23:39] <Seeker`> jussi01: in a min
[23:39] <jussi01> kk
[23:39] <jussi01> anyone else want to play?
[23:46] <Myrtti> Mez: btw - just listening to Pipettes and had KFC. :-P ps. http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=BIrVIzRNeF0
[23:50] <Seeker`> jussi01: lo
[23:50]  * jussi01 waves