[00:00] <bdelin88> exodus_ms: what do u mean by your question?
[00:00] <fruit-dude> Zenitur what are the permissions for that folder?
[00:00] <racecar-56> i dont like 9.04a3
[00:00] <gAri-> anybody got problems with sockets in php5?
[00:00] <bdelin88> so no one knows
[00:00] <racecar-56> its too glitchy for me
[00:00] <racecar-56> its ok exept for the trouble with nvidia driver
[00:00] <bdelin88> bc in...yes... in windows, i could have done this in 30 seconds tops
[00:00] <bdelin88> why is this so difficult
[00:01] <pike_> sweetgum: sorry i wont be of much help
[00:01] <Zenitur> fruit, for home - 755, root, root. For all other dirs and cmake - 755, kdefour, users, -x
[00:01] <sd32> works your brain
[00:01] <phoenixz> Could anybody post an example here of a nautilus useragent string? Google messes up on this one
[00:02] <fruit-dude> Zenitur yes it looks like it's  a bug
[00:02] <cadman21> Rhosre: yeah I have the latest.. ok well thanks for the help.
[00:02] <vigo> I helped a friend install 8,04 on his laptop, he wants to use it as a sound mixer, is a musician, what program do you suggest?
[00:02] <joshmonarck> I'm a translator and need to convert an .ftm file to .tmx.  Any ideas?
[00:03] <micah> hello
[00:03] <joshmonarck> Convert .ftm to .tmx?
[00:03] <phoenixz> micah: hello too
[00:03] <CyberGabber> vigo: RoseGarden ?
[00:03] <Lucifer_Cat> Question: How well would xubuntu run on a 550Mhz P3 machine with 256 megs of ram?
[00:03] <vigo> Thank you
[00:03] <Zenitur> fruit-dude, Ubuntu 8.10, myself compiled kernel. Thank you
[00:03] <micah> wasap i just started ubuntu!!
[00:03] <pike_> Lucifer_Cat: adequate
[00:03] <rdw200169> vigo, look into ubuntu studio
[00:03] <micah> xubuntu
[00:03] <CyberGabber> vigo: http://www.rosegardenmusic.com/
[00:03] <Lucifer_Cat> pike_, thanks!
[00:03] <[TK]D-Fender> Hello, not entirely an OS question but somethin new nagging me.  Firefox seems to open all windows in a 1/2 full-screen mode.  The menu bar & address bar remains, but it takes over my Gnome panels, etc
[00:03] <fruit-dude> welcome
[00:03] <pike_> Lucifer_Cat: ive setup alot of p3 xubuntu machines for media boxes
[00:03] <phoenixz> micah: congratulations..
[00:04] <[TK]D-Fender> Can't quite seem to find what I did to case this...
[00:04] <rdw200169> vigo, just about 99% of the help he will need can be found through those guys work: http://ubuntustudio.org/
[00:04] <etronik> hey all
[00:04] <sd32> 4 gigs of disk space
[00:04] <[TK]D-Fender> cause*
[00:04] <fruit-dude> Lucifer_Cat it will run, not much you can expect from that but it will work
[00:04] <bobbob1016> I'm not getting sound "aplay -l" lists my hardware, but no sound, any ideas?
[00:04] <fruit-dude> Lucifer_Cat clearly that's a low performance device
[00:04] <etronik> Does 8.04 server come with a default remote desktop server ? is there a guide for choosing setting up a remote desktop server under ubuntu ?
[00:04] <Lucifer_Cat> fruit-dude, i mostly want to do kernel stuff and web programming stuff on it
[00:05] <micah> so im have problems with installing programs for linux and i dont no much
[00:05] <Lucifer_Cat> well, not web programming specifically...
[00:05] <cadman21> has anyone worked with watching tv shows on ABC?
[00:05] <fruit-dude> waht tupe of programing?
[00:05] <Lucifer_Cat> i'd basically like the graphics mode to be adequate enough so that i can do irc and youtube on the side
[00:06] <micah> i need to put a driver for my wacom intous 3 and i found one and i dont no how to put it on
[00:06] <vigo> Thats the ticket rdw200169, and thank you also CyberGabber,,will install that to play with tonight.
[00:06] <Lucifer_Cat> fruit-dude, python, C/C++ and like
[00:06] <fruit-dude> Lucifer_Cat, you can try running a live cd that will give you a glimpse if it
[00:06] <Lucifer_Cat> i figured. but the stupid pc has a broken drive :P so im trying it on my laptop and liking it.
[00:07] <fruit-dude> you'll have a better performance after the installation, better than live cd
[00:07] <Lucifer_Cat> i couldnt wait till i got the drive and found out for myself, so i just asked
[00:07] <fruit-dude> oh Lucifer_Cat
[00:07] <micah> anyone dual booting?? i am just for photoshop cs3
[00:07] <fruit-dude> me micah
[00:07] <lifenova> I do, micah
[00:08] <fruit-dude> what the problem micah
[00:08] <micah> xp seems so stupid to me know
[00:08] <micah> o
[00:08] <Lucifer_Cat> thanks, fruit-dude
[00:08] <fruit-dude> no problem Lucifer_Cat
[00:08] <Guest5941> marine1
[00:08] <rdw200169> vigo you don't have to install ubuntu-studio separately, you just need their metapackage (i think) it's like ubuntu-studio*
[00:08] <micah> i dont no how to install my driver for my wacom tablet and i found one for linux
[00:09] <[TK]D-Fender> Any thoughts for my Firefox sem-FS problem?
[00:09] <twiadpaws> lo guys
[00:10] <fruit-dude> micah what type of file did you download
[00:10] <fruit-dude> ?
[00:10] <twiadpaws> i got ubuntu on eee pc here, everything works fine but wlan
[00:10] <lifenova> [TK]D-Fender: I'm not really too sure about this, but just a thought; if you press F11, does Firefox go to the true full screen mode?
[00:10] <micah> i forgot i dont have it right now
[00:10] <fruit-dude> micah, heh :p
[00:10] <micah> i re installed xubuntu over it
[00:10] <pike_> twiadpaws: isnt wireless kinda essential for a netbook? :)
[00:11] <[TK]D-Fender> lifenova: as I mentioned, first F1 goes to "full" sull-screen, #2 goes to "normal"
[00:11] <basti_> Zack zack deutsch :D
[00:11] <Guest5941> marine1
[00:11] <[TK]D-Fender> lifenova: Like its an intermediate mode.
[00:11] <KDesk> Someone knows if something similar to opensuse's packman repository for ubuntu exists?
[00:11] <[TK]D-Fender> lifenova: But there is no check on the FS under "View"
[00:11] <basti_> Hmm jemand deutsch hier?
[00:11] <lifenova> [TK]D-Fender: Oh, I see what you mean.... I really don't know, sorry :(
[00:12] <micah> also can u re-partition my drives i want more room for xubuntu
[00:12] <redvamp128> !de | basti:
[00:12] <Stormx2> Can anyone recommend a CD burner that supports playlists?
[00:12] <Lenin_Cat> my sound is repeating a nose
[00:12] <Lenin_Cat> I tryed restarting alsa
[00:14] <Guest5941> how do i add my newly created unallocated partition to my ext 3 when i boot thru livecd it still won't let me add or merge it
[00:14] <gez> Hi
[00:14] <elementz> i just installed  the newest nvidia driver from intrepid proposed repo: now x seems to not properly start anymore. wasn't there a way to automatically reonfigure the x-config?
[00:14] <gez> I'm having some troubles with gstreamer and ffmpeg. I get this when I launch Totem
[00:14] <gez> Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so': /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51: undefined symbol: ff_gcd
[00:14] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 sudo fdisk -l
[00:15] <Stormx2> uhg. gnomebaker's playlist import always imports into a new session with a 20 minute CD selected by default.brasero outright segfaults or says that the files aren't supported
[00:15] <koshari> Stormx2 playlists are done in software
[00:15] <Stormx2> This is a pretty poor showing
[00:15] <Stormx2> koshari, orly?
[00:16] <Guest5941>  fruit-dude what do you want to see
[00:16] <fruit-dude> guest find the name of the new partition
[00:16] <nomingzi> where to get a flash player running under ubuntu 8.10 desktop on x64 system ? Adobe website has flash player for x86 system and not x64, please advise.
[00:17] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, Disk /dev/sda: 160.0 GB, 160041885696 bytes
[00:17] <Guest5941> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 19457 cylinders
[00:17] <Guest5941> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[00:17] <Guest5941> Disk identifier: 0x144d144d
[00:17] <Guest5941>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[00:17] <FloodBot1> Guest5941: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:17] <Guest5941> /dev/sda1   *           1        9657    77569821    7  HPFS/NTFS
[00:17] <cvx> whats the hotkey to start a program?
[00:17] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 then you can use this to mount it sudo mkdir /media/new_p
[00:17] <fruit-dude>  sudo echo /dev/<new_partition>    /media/new_p     ext3    defaults,umask=0 0 0
[00:17] <lifenova> cvx: alt+f2
[00:17] <steph291> hi everyone !
[00:17] <cvx> thankz
[00:17] <gez> nomingzi: You just want to have flash or you need a native 64bit flash player?
[00:17] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/linux-newbie/78894-mounting-new-ext3-partition.html
[00:18] <steph291> I have a problem with virus in winxp, I reboot in livecd ubuntu desktop...
[00:18] <pike_> steph291: problem solved?
[00:18] <steph291> I'm wondering if I install avast for ubuntu I could get rid of it ?
[00:18] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i originally instealled thru windows(linux)
[00:18] <steph291> in a livecd session
[00:19] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, will this be a prolem
[00:19] <Stormx2> meh, gonna try this command-line burner
[00:19] <FlareDS> !antivirus | steph291
[00:19] <lifenova> steph291: Avast won't install onto Ubuntu, as it's a sindows program
[00:20] <lifenova> steph291: so you have to deal with virus problems in windows through windows :/
[00:20] <steph291> nonono, there's a deb package for ubuntu
[00:20] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 you should be able to mount it automatically on places just a click
[00:20] <steph291> 27mb
[00:20] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 what's on that partition??
[00:20] <pike_> steph291: what about clamav??
[00:20] <DiDiVp> Hi
[00:20] <nomingzi> gez: i am not sure, just that I try to install the flash player from adobe website, but it prompted me that their player cannot under for x64. I do not care whether to use native player or not, but I just need to be able to view flash video when i browse internet. please advise. thanks
[00:20] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, yes but like i said earlier when i boot in livecd the ext3 file has a key on it and i can't merge the unallocated aprt to it
[00:20] <lifenova> steph291: But that's probably designed to look for Linux viruses, not windows
[00:20] <pike_> steph291: thats in the repos though ive never used it
[00:21] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 not sure what's your problem? if you have a data partition then you should mount it as it says on the mentioned link
[00:21] <etronik> Anybody recommend a good admin front-end for bacula, used from windows GUI or Web interface ??
[00:21] <pike_> steph291: nope most linux antivirus apps are designed to clean windows machines.
[00:21] <gez> nomingzi: Ubuntu should install the flash player for you automatically when you go to a website with flash movies
[00:21] <fruit-dude> steph291 you can try clamav
[00:21] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i used the remaining harddrive space from windows
[00:22] <gez> Just make sure you have Synaptic or the Update manager closed.
[00:22] <rdw200169> gez, that's related to firefox, not linux
[00:22] <lifenova> steph291: disregard what I said :/
[00:22] <rdw200169> gez, or ubuntu for that matter
[00:22] <DiDiVp> the most anti-virus for linux that I knew search vírus of windows
[00:22] <gez> rdw200169: Isn't this an Ubuntu channel?
 well, after getting the 64-bit java plugin from Sun working on my workstation at work, I can't repeat the feat at home
[00:23] <racecar-56> i got to help bdelin88 with his problem
[00:23] <rdw200169> gez, yes, but the feature you're reffering to is something that the mozilla guys would add, not ubuntu; regardless, install the package ubuntu-restricted-extras and some of your problems should be solved
[00:23] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 don't know
[00:23] <dsch04> It *seems* to be installed and working, but crashes when I access the java test page
[00:23] <racecar-56> its all solved
[00:23] <racecar-56> =D
[00:23] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, thanks
[00:23] <fruit-dude> np
[00:24] <DiDiVp> dsch04, did you manual install?
[00:24] <rdw200169> gez, that takes care of a lot of stuff, everything else can be easily found at ubuntuguide.org
[00:24] <filsuf> Obama at his orgamic time:
[00:24] <filsuf> http://www.familysecuritymatters.org/imgLib/20080801_obama_looking_up.jpg
[00:24] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i didn't create a new ext3 that is my linux
[00:24] <dsch04> http://robinbowes.com/article.php/20090130132222337
[00:24] <jp_sf> gez: looking for Flash for ubuntu 8.10 on a x64 machine ? http://download.macromedia.com/pub/labs/flashplayer10/libflashplayer-10.0.d21.1.linux-x86_64.so.tar.gz
[00:24] <whisperkiller> how do i rename a file in commandline?
[00:24] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i created a unallocated parttion
[00:24] <gez> rdw200169: I'm just trying to help nomingzi. I already have my native 64 bit plugin from adobe labs running
[00:24] <pike_> whisperkiller: mv file newfilename
[00:24] <dsch04> whisperkiller: mv
[00:24] <Guest5941> fruit now i'm trying to merge it
[00:24] <filsuf> Obama uses WinFuck .... Bush uses MacOS ... wait until I'm president ... the first one to use linux
[00:24] <whisperkiller> thanks
[00:25] <lifenova> !language
[00:25] <rdw200169> gez, ah, i haven't been paying *too* much attention ;)
[00:25] <jp_sf> gez: ah sorry
[00:25] <fruit-dude> filsuf lol
[00:25] <micah> how do u install a theme manualy
[00:25] <gez> My problem is other... And it's a hard one :)
[00:25] <gez> My gstreamer got broken.
[00:25] <fruit-dude> micah gnome?
[00:25] <micah> yes
[00:26] <jp_sf> gez: what do you mean by broken ?
[00:26] <kernco> I just tried upgrading from the nvidia 177 to 180 driver, and now X won't start unless I switch to the vesa driver.  I can't even go back to the 177 driver.
[00:26] <gez> Apparently the gstreamer-ffmpeg plugin can't be loadad
[00:26] <filsuf> Obama server runs Linux though!
[00:26] <filsuf> you know that?
[00:26] <fruit-dude> gez issue a reinstall
[00:26] <gez> So I can't view xvid, mov, flv
[00:26] <fruit-dude> sudo apt-get autoremove then re install it it should go okay
[00:26] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, the link you sent me is for a new ext3 not an existing one
[00:26] <nomingzi> gez  jp_sf, I think i know the problem - may be the website video require different kind of player, bcos I can play flash for other website, anyway many many for your help and guidance.
[00:26] <micah> do i drop the files in a folder and if so what file for the themes
[00:27] <gez> nomingzi: I think you already installed another player. probably swfdec or gnash.
[00:27] <sahak> How can I boot into Ubuntu netbook remix .img file stored on my HDD? I don't have a USB flash key.
[00:27] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 that's why I asked you to get the partition name from fdisk
[00:27] <jp_sf> gez: you have a error message something ?
[00:27] <gez> Failed to load plugin '/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.10/libgstffmpeg.so': /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.51: undefined symbol: ff_gcd
[00:28] <lifenova> micah: System -> Prefs -> Appearance, go to the Themes Tab, press Install and select the .tar.gz file you downloaded
[00:28] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i thought you read it when i posted it before
[00:28] <rdw200169> sahak, in short, you can't; that, or i've never heard of it; regardless, i doubt it.
[00:28] <micah> thank you!!!
[00:28] <gez> I already tried the obvious. Make sure that the gstreamer plugins, the livavcodec and other files are the right and remove any file from external repositories.
[00:28] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, it's not showing on fdisk ut i see it in gparted
[00:29] <gez> I have the same files installled than the other machine that works fine, but I can't play those files
[00:29] <jp_sf> gez: did you checked that : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=775943
[00:29] <sahak> rdw200169: thanks
[00:29] <fruit-dude> ok then do the fstab line
[00:29] <nomingzi> gez: yes, my PC is installed with swfdec, so what are you trying to tell me. pls advise thanks
[00:29] <fruit-dude> ok then do the fstab line  Guest5941
[00:30] <gez> nomingzi: THat's a free flash player. It hasn't the same support than the official, closed source flash player.
[00:30] <Guest5941> fruit-dude which one is the fsta line
[00:30] <Guest5941> fruit-dude,  my bbb key is going
[00:30] <gez> You should remove it, activate the partner repo from the "software origins" option and install the adobe-flashplayer package
[00:30] <Cpplus> gez, have you searched your driver for different versions of the library libavcodec
[00:31] <Cpplus> driver = mounts
[00:31] <sahak> I have a simple script that rsyncs daily jaunty .iso image, and then boots into it from my HDD, so that I can check out the latest features.
[00:31] <fruit-dude> new_partition>    /media/new_p     ext3    defaults,umask=0 0 0
[00:31] <gez> jp_sf: That's not my problem. Already checked
[00:31] <fruit-dude>  Guest5941 replace new_partition with path to the drive
[00:31] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, with gparted once you shrink the harddrive space itr creates a unallocated part that's what i'm trying to use
[00:32] <gez> Cpplus: I have. I tried the different versions available without luck
[00:32] <jp_sf> gez: so what libx do you have now ?
[00:32] <fruit-dude> Guest5941, never used gparted just manual mounting
[00:32] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, kind of to late for that
[00:32] <gez> jp_sf: _59
[00:32] <kerric_> are there anyone running ubuntu on a acer aspire one i have a question about the web cam.
[00:33] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, what are my options now
[00:33] <gez> I had another from a third party repo but I removed it.
[00:33] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 sorry I was always talking about manual mount
[00:33] <nomingzi> gez: is it due to swfdec (open source software) may not able to play some video and i should uninstall it and install the one suggested by jp_sf ?
[00:33] <fruit-dude> guest df -h?
[00:33] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 paste bin please
[00:33] <ronc> ciao
[00:33] <ronc> !list
[00:33] <CaneToad> What does this no buffer space available business mean?
[00:33] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 you can always umount -l
[00:33] <CaneToad> root@vostro:~# ifconfig eth1 192.168.2.2 netmask 255.255.255.0
[00:33] <CaneToad> SIOCSIFADDR: No buffer space available
[00:33] <CaneToad> SIOCSIFNETMASK: Cannot assign requested address
[00:33] <koshari> sahak thats a good idea
[00:33] <FloodBot1> CaneToad: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:34] <jp_sf> nomingzi: I didn't have a single problem running the proprietary software on x64
[00:34] <gez> nomingzi: You can install easily from synaptic (remember to activate the partner repo before) the adobe-flashplugin. It's the 32-bit version of the plugin but it works in 64-bit
[00:34] <gez> The x64 version is, afaik, a beta version
[00:34] <sahak> koshari: yes, it is better than booting into KVM, because I can make sure that all my hardware is working properly.
[00:35] <gez> It works much better than the 32 bit version, but it has to be installed manually.
[00:35] <koshari> sahak are the diffs big?
[00:35] <sahak> koshari: No, it only takes a couple of minutes to update daily .iso image.
[00:35] <gez> If "install it manually" sounds scary for you, probably you should stick to the 32-bit version that is available in the repos.
[00:35] <sahak> koshari: diffs are between 0 and 100MB in size
[00:36] <Freshy> evenin
[00:36] <Cpplus> gez, have you  tried this? http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/browse_thread/thread/7d2e49127a35f92e/386d17df772b0a21?lnk=raot
[00:36] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111916/
[00:36] <nomingzi> gez: how do i "activate the partner repo" ?
[00:36] <jp_sf> gez could you pastebin: ldd /usr/lib/gstreamer-X.X/libgstffmpeg.so
[00:37] <jp_sf> gez: XX are for the version you have
[00:38] <Freshy> i need some help with cups in ubuntu 8.04, the driver is installed.. I used dpkg -l | grep Brother
[00:38] <Freshy>  to confirm
[00:38] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, it doesn't look like it's mounted on anything it shows /
[00:38] <bombshel2er13> I have a module I'm writing with a large collection of functions like verbNown (makeCat,deleteCat,etc, hypothetically) and need to quickly and reliably add a bunchion of equivelant verbNounse methods (makeCats,deleteCats, etc) that basically just map the same function onto a list of arguments, instead of just one. Is there a `Proper'/'Pythonic' way to do this? Perhaps some sort of pluralizing function can be imported from something that already ex
[00:38] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 it's not mounted
[00:39] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 sudo fdisk -l; sudo mount
[00:39] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, which one
[00:40] <tweak66> does anyone know a program gui to patch and compile a kernel?
[00:40] <jp_sf> bombshel1er13: a module ? in what language ?
[00:40] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 please issue those commands
[00:40] <fruit-dude> and paste bin them
[00:40] <fruit-dude> I'll write an script for you to mount that
[00:40] <Freshy> what is the user/pass for cups http://localhost:631/printers
[00:40] <tweak66> !kernel
[00:40] <zleap> not sure about compile, i know make xconfig (if its set up) wil help confgure it
[00:40] <zleap> or used to
[00:40] <steph291> calmav, good idea
[00:40] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, i just did now what
[00:41] <steph291> *clamav
[00:41] <jp_sf> gez: did you ldd ?
[00:41] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 paste bin it to me
[00:42] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111917/
[00:42] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 you missed the fdisk
[00:42] <mib_n52x55> Hello. I have a simple question. I'm looking for the newest build / update of Intrepid Ibex. It seems that the version for obvious download is months old, and would take tons of updates AFTER I install it. Is there a more recent build somewhere I'm missing?
[00:43] <sidewalk> is there any way to keep the desktop and still have different wallpapers for different workspaces?
[00:43] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, that was the first command i ussed then sudo mount
[00:43] <jp_sf> mib_n52x55: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[00:43] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 it's not listed at the pastebin
[00:44] <leeping2007> Hi there, I have IP masquerading and NAT enabled on my server, allowing my LAN computers to access the network.  However, I just connected a new one, and it's unable to see the outside world.  What do I have to restart?
[00:44] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, that was the first one i sent you
[00:44] <_DEL> I have a question about vbox, After i made it full size, what are the keys to make it a smaller window again?
[00:44] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111917/
[00:44] <Scunizi> _DEL: same.. ctrl f
[00:44] <_DEL> Scunizi, ty
[00:45] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, try this one  http://paste.ubuntu.com/111916/
[00:45] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 nope that's df -h
[00:45] <GuaranaBOMB> hello all
[00:45] <jp_sf> leeping2007: could describe it a little bit more you just connected a machine to what how is it related to your server ?
[00:45] <fruit-dude> GuaranaBOMB nice nick hello
[00:45] <aaroninfidel> anyone know anything about wine?
[00:45] <GuaranaBOMB> heh, uruguay dialup
[00:45] <GuaranaBOMB> must be bad bandwidth ;/
[00:46] <GuaranaBOMB> :(
[00:46] <ert3> does anyone know what it means when you get the message "This apt has supper cow powers"
[00:46] <fruit-dude> GuaranaBOMB indeed
[00:46] <jp_sf> aaroncampbell: yes a lot red white and so otherwise you could check http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/ and also what is your problem ?
[00:46] <GuaranaBOMB> does oracle have a native linux installer for oracle 11G that will work flawlessly in Ubuntu 8.10
[00:46] <jp_sf> aaroncampbell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine I mean
[00:46] <GuaranaBOMB> or do i have to do all the sub-dependencies etc manually?
[00:46] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111919/
[00:46]  * steph291 is scanning for virus from Ubuntu LiveCD with avast ... on windows ntfs partitons, will see ...
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> the best URL i found that helps me w/ Oracle 11G on 8.10
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> is this:
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> http://www.pythian.com/blogs/1355/installing-oracle-11gr1-on-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex
[00:47] <FloodBot1> GuaranaBOMB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:47] <leeping2007> My client machine is connected to my server computer through a switch
[00:47] <GuaranaBOMB> anything more timely/efficient then that url? heh
[00:47] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, I'm not aaroncampbell.
[00:47] <Cpplus> ert3, apt-get moo
[00:47] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: my bad
[00:47] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, http://paste.ubuntu.com/111919/  try this
[00:48] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 yeah1
[00:48] <Guest5941> fruit-dude, it looks like my linux is on /dev/sda5
[00:48] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine I mean
[00:48] <GuaranaBOMB> my lord
[00:48] <GuaranaBOMB> look at all the crap on that url
[00:48] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, anyway, the question I had was when I installed wine and installed programs using wine, it created a submenu in my menu called "Other" how can I remove the "other" menu?
[00:48] <GuaranaBOMB> to get oracle 11G running on 8.10
[00:49] <Bryan_Sierra> so I accidently removed a program in /usr/bin and now I can't remove it from apt-get because it's saying that the dependencies aren' tmet :o is there a way to just remove it manually? (Other than going directory by directory)
[00:49] <fruit-dude> Guest5941 in that case / is your partition
[00:49] <jp_sf> GuaranaBOMB: /join #oracle
[00:49] <guest5941> fruit-dude, so what do i do now
[00:50] <fruit-dude> guest5941 please pm me
[00:50] <Stargazer> I'm testing jaunty under VBox... where are shared folders located ?
[00:50] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: Not sure did you try to navigate in /home/<username>/.local/share/applications/wine/Programs
[00:51] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, I'll check, thanks!
[00:51] <surial> I follow all instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=17272 to get a sox that can read and write mp3s, but no luck.
[00:52] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, thank you that worked your awesome!
[00:52] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: cool
[00:53] <steph291> avast for linux found virus on my ntfs partition :P
[00:54] <gez> jp_sf:
[00:54] <gez> I'm back
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez: cool
[00:54] <gez> It's long
[00:54] <gez> And it has no errors
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez : libx something no ?
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez: could you pastebin it ?
[00:54] <jp_sf> gez: I'm like saint thomas want to check that it is not looking for something -56 or -57
[00:55] <koshari> Stargazer you need to allocate shared folders in vbox
[00:55] <koshari> Stargazer on your hist machine
[00:55] <koshari> host
[00:55] <gez> http://pastebin.com/m6d4312d7
[00:55] <gez> It's looking for the right: -59
[00:56] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf do you know anything about Cedega?
[00:56] <emma> has anyone else seen this Netx open source JNLP client pop up when browsing with firefox in intrepid?
[00:56] <jp_sf> aaroninfidel: nope sorry
[00:56] <emma> It asks to choose a Cache directory.
[00:56] <aaroninfidel> jp_sf, thanks anyway. :)
[00:56] <Stargazer> Koshari: i've designated the folder path for which i wish to share with my guest OS.
[00:56] <Alex_21> Does anyone know about PPC Sound Drivers. I get no sound from my Powermac's speaker
[00:56] <Alex_21> Please
[00:57] <emma> A popup while browsing is not a good thing. It's very suspicious and it encourages foolish behavior.
[00:57] <Alex_21> Ensure that pop
[00:57] <Buttons> hi
[00:57] <Alex_21> Pop-up blocker is on
[00:57] <unkmar> firestarter did not work for me.
[00:57] <Gerinych> how do i repair a ntfs partition from ubuntu?
[00:57] <gez> jp_sf: http://pastebin.com/m6d4312d7
[00:57] <jp_sf> gez: hum yes, you don't have a more explicit long error
[00:57] <unkmar> Gerinych: you don't.
[00:58] <adam__> do I need to be using a firewall (firestarter) when using ubuntu?
[00:58] <Gerinych> unkmar: so... what do i do then?
[00:58] <tag> did an ACPI patch come out recently?
[00:58] <Alex_21> Hi, Any help with PPC issues. I Googled, but didn't find anything
[00:58] <unkmar> Gerinych: you repair NTFS from a functional windows.  Barts PE is one option.
[00:58] <Alex_21> Anything at all?
[00:58] <savvas> adam__: it depends on how you use ubuntu
[00:58] <adam__> general computer use via a secure wireless network
[00:58] <koshari> Stargazer you should be able to see tha share as a network location
[00:58] <koshari> on the guest
[00:59] <jp_sf> gez: on synaptic x264 is selected ?
[00:59] <Bsims> OK this is bad I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[00:59] <unkmar> Gerinych: it also advised not to mount NTFS in ubuntu as writable.  Use it read-only
[00:59] <Cloaker> i have a problem with rsync and truecrypt here on ubuntu 8.04
[00:59] <gez> x264 alone or libx264?
[00:59] <Waldo> Hello all. I have some folders on another computer on my network that are set to be inaccessible without the user password. But Nautilus doesn't give me the option of entering the password, just an error message saying I don't have permission. Any way to change that?
[00:59] <savvas> adam__: any kind of server is good and recommended to have as much protection as possible, a desktop user doesn't need it so much, especially with quick patches provided nowadays
[00:59] <gez> Anyway, I've tried with both, with and without it
[00:59] <jp_sf> gez: I mean on synaptic if you search x264 what is mark installed ?
[00:59] <gez> And nothing hapeans
[00:59] <adam__> savvas: okay, thanks savvas
[00:59] <gez> Yes, yes. It's installed, of course.
[00:59] <koshari> Waldo mount through fstab
[01:00] <savvas> adam__: if you don't have any shared folders, I think you 're more than enough secure :)
[01:00] <Alex_21> I have no sound. That isn't good since I am blind and depend on speech
[01:00] <gez> I made sure that every related packages are installed (i've checked one by one in another computer)
[01:00] <Waldo> ﻿koshari: fstab?
[01:00] <Alex_21> PPC Powermac G4 Digital Audio
[01:00] <Cloaker> When i mount a truecrypt volume and use rsync on it 2 times, it copies all the files 2 times. But it should only copy the files in the first run and not in the second, because the files should allready be in sync. Can anyone help me with this problem?
[01:00] <koshari> Waldo fstab is where all your mount points are located
[01:00] <koshari> !fstab
[01:01] <adam__> savvas: no I'm not sharing, but I am curious. Is it possible to terminal to my linux box from my windows machine? I want to treat it like I'm logging into a remote unix box for learning
[01:01] <Bsims> Critcial help needed : I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:01] <luke> needing some help with an acer tablet pc. My xorg seems incomplete and my keyboard is not right... Help plz
[01:01] <Alex_21> Use Sigwin to access Windows via Terminal
[01:01] <unkmar> adam__: you can ssh from a windows machine via putty.
[01:01] <Alex_21> Sigwin isn't the correct spelling
[01:01] <koshari> adam__ i suspect using putty you could ssl into linux and issue a runtime change
[01:01] <savvas> adam__: sure, you can use a program named putty - if you have installed ssh server on linux that is
[01:02] <unkmar> Alex_21: Cygwin is the correct spelling.
[01:02] <adam__> savvas: perfect, i can handle that. thanks guys
[01:02] <jonathan_> When I attempt to update my update manager, I get an error of "No public key" for my itrepid Ibex. How to solve?
[01:02] <Alex_21> He wants it the other way around I think
[01:02] <Alex_21> Is that right?
[01:02] <jonathan_> yes.
[01:02] <gez> Alex_21: did you check this? http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-302476.html
[01:02] <TuxSympathiser> what does CPU1 attaching sched-domain: mean?
[01:03] <savvas> adam__: on the other hand, if you need a "linux" inside windows, you can install cygwin which provides a package for ssh client :)
[01:03] <jp_sf> gez: and even vlc is having a problem right ?
[01:03] <luke> needing some help with an acer tablet pc. My xorg seems incomplete and my keyboard is not right... Help plz
[01:03] <luke> ubuntu 8.10
[01:03] <gez> Yes
[01:03] <unkmar> Alex_21: to go the other way.  I use VNC. but that isn't a terminal.
[01:03] <gez> jp_sf: VLC has the same problem. Complains about missing codecs
[01:04] <jp_sf> adam_ savvas: try AndLinux
[01:04] <jp_sf> gez: could you start vlc from the command line to paste all the error message ?
[01:04] <adam__> savvas: well im trying to teach myself to work from the shell via a great book, Ive just been working in the terminal on ubuntu, but I thought I could make it more 'real world' by trying to log in to real terminal
[01:04] <tweak66> Hi. I'm trying to compile/patch a kernel. i'm using kernelcheck. when my compilation stops and it asks me for a patch in the cli how do i apply it?
[01:05] <jp_sf> adam_ savvas: http://www.andlinux.org/
[01:05] <unkmar> gez: vlc > error.log
[01:05] <savvas> jp_sf: that's too much for what adam__ asked for :) he just wanted a terminal/ssh client
[01:05] <Waldo> ﻿koshari: I don't see the other computer in the fstab file. I assume I'd add it and set permissions there?
[01:05] <unkmar> though I doubt that will work. :(
[01:05] <adam__> that is, if im making any sense
[01:05] <gez> jp_sf:  and unkmar: ok :)
[01:05] <jp_sf> savvas: yeah but it is a good introduction to Linux
[01:05] <savvas> adam__: you have a dozen of free shell account services floating around the internet
[01:05] <jonathan_> Here's the error message: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[01:05] <Bsims> EMERGENCY Help needed : I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:05] <adam__> savvas: really? wow can you recommend a good one?
[01:06] <savvas> adam__: er.. hold a sec
[01:06] <Alex_21> Ok, I looked, and I'll try external speakers now
[01:06] <jp_sf> gez unkmar : yeah gez you tease us but we don't have much information right
[01:06] <koshari> Waldo correct you need to make a line up to mount the remote to a local placeholder
[01:06] <Alex_21> Thanks
[01:06] <gez> jp_sf: I'm reinstalling VLC
[01:07] <leeping2007> I'm getting a strange error when my client tries to connect to the network.  It says: "dh-client-script permission denied"
[01:07] <gez> Please wait a minute.
[01:07] <koshari> Waldo you nay need a credentuals file to store pw and username in
[01:07] <leeping2007> Anyone seen this error before?
[01:07] <gez> I uninstalled every possible problematic package to start over
[01:07] <unkmar> leeping2007: running as root?
[01:07] <leeping2007> rather "dhcp-client-script permission denied" ... I am running as root.  My other client machines do not have this problem
[01:08] <misieq> !seen abcd
[01:08] <leeping2007> Tried rebooting, restarting network services on the server ..
[01:08] <Waldo> ﻿koshari: Thanks, I'll give it a shot later. Kind of disappointing; Dolphin asks for the password just fine.
[01:08] <savvas> adam__: try from these lists: http://www.red-pill.eu/freeunix.shtml http://www.bylur.net/free/
[01:08] <adam__> savvas: perfect, a million thanks savvas
[01:09] <savvas> adam__: they may not be debian or ubuntu, but the shell is really similar :)
[01:09] <austin_> hey guys could someone help me out just installed ubuntu and im trying to install a theme
[01:09] <unkmar> leeping2007: my other thought is a script that isn't set to executable. :/
[01:09] <luke> needing some help with an acer tablet pc. My xorg seems incomplete and my keyboard is not right... Help plz
[01:09] <austin_> i downloaded the max osx theme
[01:09] <austin_> how to i install it?
[01:09] <lifenova> austin_: you're using gnome, correct?
[01:09] <austin_> i think
[01:10] <austin_> and i just installed compiz also
[01:10] <luke> specifically, the shift key wont work and some other combinations wont?
[01:10] <Bsims> I need a guru's help please...
[01:10] <Bsims> EMERGENCY Help needed : I tried to upgrade and got a segfault... and now I get this error dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed. I am on ubuntu
[01:10] <savvas> adam__: in case you end up looking how to install and use SSH: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSHHowto
[01:11] <unkmar> Bsims: did the upgrade include a new kernel?  You might be able to reboot using the old kernel listed in grub.
[01:11] <leeping2007> unkmar, if I "ls -ltr" the file, it shows up as red .. this mean anything to you?
[01:11] <austin_> whyen i drag and drop i get this
[01:11] <austin_> "OSX Leopard" does not appear to be a valid theme.
[01:11] <exodus_ms> Bsims: I did a quick search for the error you have posted --> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=486843
[01:11] <leeping2007> It's set to executable for owner and group
[01:11] <lifenova> austin_: what type of file is it
[01:11] <austin_> .tar.gz
[01:11] <unkmar> leeping2007: yeah, background read means executes as root from any user.
[01:11] <unkmar> *background red.
[01:11] <Bsims> unkmar: not rebooted yet, I can't get apt to finish installing it
[01:12] <leeping2007> unkmar, when I chgrp'ed it, the red went away :P I don't know how to set it back, heh
[01:12] <Bsims> exodus_ms: I am not knowing using xemacs
[01:12] <unkmar> leeping2007: chmod 7777 filename
[01:13] <gez> jp_sf: [00000420] main decoder error: no suitable decoder module for fourcc `avc1'.
[01:13] <gez> VLC probably does not support this sound or video format.
[01:13] <Bsims> exodus_ms: and I can't remove anything as apt is broken... though i suppose I could try dpkg
[01:13] <leeping2007> unkmar, thanks :)
[01:13] <gez> The error log was empty
[01:13] <gez> when I did vlc > error.log
[01:13] <exodus_ms> Bsims: have you tried   dpkg --configure -a
[01:14] <Alex_21> Thanks for your help
[01:14] <Alex_21> Good night
[01:14] <Alex_21> Actually
[01:14] <unkmar> gez: I don't remember the magic trick...  Might be vlc &2 > error.log
[01:14] <Alex_21> Good day
[01:14] <FloodBot1> Alex_21: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:14] <jp_sf> gez: hum ... no not from vlc...
[01:15] <unkmar> gez: what you are looking to do is redirect the error output to stdin for redirection to file.
[01:15] <jp_sf> gez: can I be annoying ? could you rm -rf ~/.vlc (if it is safe for you) desinstall vlc re rm -rf ~/.vlc then reinstall vlc
[01:15] <unkmar> luke: I wish I could help.
[01:15] <X1karr0usX> if anyone has any outstanding issue that hasn't been dealt with, send me a private message
[01:15] <TheMusicGuy> What is this: ERROR: ld.so: object '/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l2convert.so' from LD_PRELOAD cannot be preloaded: ignored.
[01:15] <gez> jp_sf: It's the first I did.
[01:16] <unkmar> gez:  or mv ~/.vlc ~/.vlc.bak
[01:16] <gez> Remove totem and VLC, their config directories and reinstalled them
[01:16] <jp_sf> gez: all video or just one specific ?
[01:16] <gez> Any xvid, mov, flv video.
[01:17] <leeping2007> heh, I found out what the problem was.  That was weird
[01:17] <gez> No problems with oggs, for instance.
[01:17] <unkmar> leeping2007: do tell.
[01:17] <leeping2007> The "group" for call-dhclient-script is supposed to be "dhcp"
[01:17] <leeping2007> When I looked at the file properties it had changed to "syslog"
[01:17] <Bsims> exodus_ms: not yet I got it semi stable now its screaming it can't dpkg: error processing libxine1-bin (--configure): package libxine1-bin is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `triggers-awaited')
[01:17] <Bsims> dpkg: error processing hal-info (--configure): package hal-info is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `triggers-awaited')
[01:17] <Bsims> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[01:17] <leeping2007> the reason being: In an attempt to clone the system I had scp'd the "hosts, group, shadow, passwd" files over from the master
[01:18] <leeping2007> and so the group definitions were changed
[01:18] <leeping2007> I have no idea what else got F-ed up :P heh
[01:18] <exodus_ms> Bsims: what version of Ubuntu
[01:18] <unkmar> leeping2007: oh,  user numbers shifted.
[01:18] <gez> jp_sp: mpgs work
[01:18] <Bsims> exodus_ms: intrepid
[01:19] <unkmar> leeping2007: you would have been better off to change the user numbers to match the appropriate file.  group?
[01:19] <Bsims> exodus_ms: and I just tried apt-get install --reinstall
[01:19] <TheMusicGuy> Apparently a certain v4l-related .so file is supposed to exist on my system, but it doesn't. Any ideas?
[01:19] <exodus_ms> Bsims: what version of dpkg
[01:19] <leeping2007> unkmar, the problem is I forgot to back up my "group" file.  I'm predicting that I have to reinstall to get the old file back
[01:19] <Bsims> I dunno what ever is current on Intrepid let me look
[01:19] <unkmar> leeping2007: not my point.
[01:19] <leeping2007> unless of course there's a table of what the new numbers are supposed to be
[01:20] <X1karr0usX>  if anyone has any outstanding issues that hasn't been dealt with, send me a private message.
[01:20] <Bsims> exodus_ms: 1.14.20ubuntu6
[01:20] <unkmar> X1karr0usX: luke has a problem.
[01:20] <X1karr0usX> ty
[01:21] <leeping2007> unkmar, here's my interpretation.  My master computer has an old operating system (Gutsy) while the client machine has Hardy
[01:21] <jp_sf> gez: Ok I don't know
[01:21] <Bsims> exodus_ms: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:21] <Bsims> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[01:21] <Bsims> Aborted
[01:22] <X1karr0usX> luke: check your private chat if you are not AFK
[01:22] <exodus_ms> Bsims: did you try that
[01:22] <leeping2007> because the new OS has different user numbers as defined in "group", when I copied the file over the usernames all got shuffled around
[01:22] <Bsims> Yeah and it errors out on me with dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed
[01:22] <gez> jp_sf: I wanted to avoid re-installing. But It seems it will be my first time.
[01:22] <leeping2007> unkmar, is that closer to the truth?
[01:22]  * Bsims is tempted to dump a list of packages installed and say hell with it and install Momma Debian
[01:22] <unkmar> leeping2007: exactly.  I don't know an easy solution.  My concern is that many other files may suffer the same fate.
[01:23] <gez> I won't let my Windows friends know it :p
[01:23] <jp_sf> gez: I know that I tried the kde-nightly build a week ago I run into similar problem I desinstall all kde related stuff and my vlc played videos again
[01:23] <kozhy> hi, somebody with a ".config" of a macbook v3.1 (Santa rosa) ??? thks
[01:23] <jp_sf> gez: honnestly you have to find what is causing this, it is just a matter to find the right library or pkg no need to reinstall
[01:23]  * Bsims curses under my breath... sad part is I don't even know what broke it
[01:23] <gez> jp_sf: My problems started with KDEnlive, I think
[01:24] <leeping2007> unkmar, that's exactly what I'm worried about.  I may have to reinstall because I don't know how the numbers got changed ...
[01:24] <gez> But I removed everything from it
[01:24] <Bsims> Surely I can't be the only one in this boat
[01:24] <leeping2007> it's not a big deal.  I barely installed it and started changing stuff :P
[01:24] <O__o> hello, how to set ubuntu so that user login is automatic??
[01:24] <gez> I deactivated the third party repos
[01:24] <Cpplus> Bsims, have you tried --force-depends
[01:24] <DrMitch> so ubuntu keeps freezing my computer, to the point of numlocks not working, mouse not working. NOTHING working, display even freezes if something is happening. I've search multiple forums but no one has seemed to pin it down. Is there a log file that should tell me what is cauing the problem? I've already searched syslog and message and dmesg :-(
[01:24] <jp_sf> gez: while having desinstall all kde components I still had problems until I depkg all pkg related to it and then it was working again
[01:24] <alchemist1> I think aoutomatic user login is under preferences, let me check.
[01:25] <unkmar> O__o: alchemist1: under Administrtion, Login
[01:25] <Bsims> Cpplus: as an option to dpkg or to apt
[01:25] <gez> You just removed the packages from apt and it worked again?
[01:25] <alchemist1> never mind, it is under administration in user and groups, I think.
[01:26] <exodus_ms> Bsims: I have looked and there seems to be a fair amount of people suggesting this: removing gxine allowed me to run "dpkg --configure -a" without this assertion. Then I reinstalled gxine. Take a look at the bottom of this link --> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/dpkg/+bug/262451
[01:26] <unkmar> O__o: alchemist1: System, Administration, Login Window, Security tab.
[01:27]  * unkmar runs away now.  Bye folks
[01:27] <jp_sf> gez: yes but I didn't troobleshhot too much when I saw my vlc wasn't working on a live streaming I was pretty upset I removed my .vlc nothing then without much troubleshooting (didn't had time for that it was a live video) I depkg all the kde related stuff as I run gnome anyway ... and It worked again after reinstalling vlc
[01:27] <alchemist1> oh, sorry, I had it enabled by default is is under login window...
[01:28] <Bsims> exodus_ms: I appriciate your help but still get this : dpkg: error processing hal-info (--configure): package hal-info is not ready for configuration cannot configure (current status `triggers-awaited')
[01:28] <leeping2007> In the /etc directory, there's a passwd file and a group file.  Does the passwd file contain all of the information that's in the group file?
[01:29] <gez> But you had problems only with vlc or with totem as well? (VLC is QT4 based now)
[01:29] <jp_sf> gez: http://kdenlive.org/forum/warning-regarding-ubuntu-ffmpeg-packages
[01:30] <exodus_ms> Bsims: did you try  sudo dpkg --remove gxine    sudo dpkg --configure -a    sudo apt-get install gxine
[01:30] <leeping2007> If I change the user numbers as defined in "group" and "passwd", will it mess up the passwords in "shadow"?
[01:30] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: No passwd doesn't store group information atall afaik, also its possible to have groups belonging to groups
[01:30] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, wow, mindboggling. :)  Thanks
[01:30] <kristian1> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a computer on my wlan. i have installed openssh-server, and im able to connect to the machine via ssh/sftp with my main username/password with 192.168.0.100 as ip. however i want to create a new login for sftp, with username/password, that can only access ~/shared/ and directories within that directory. people using the login should only be able to download. not upload/delete/rename, etc. can anyone help me 
[01:30] <jp_sf> gez: looks like awfully like your problem it upgrades ffmpeg ? that might be why you are stuck in this problem
[01:30] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: Its fine to modify it by hand
[01:31] <nickrud> leeping2007, what's your purpose, you might get better advice
[01:31] <Bsims> exodus_ms: trying it now
[01:31] <exodus_ms> Bsims: ok
[01:31] <leeping2007> nickrud, I'm administering a Beowulf cluster and I'm adding some new computers to it.  They are to have a newer OS than the existing computers.  Now, to get the user info over to the new computers, I usually copy over the four files: hosts, group, passwd, shadow.
[01:32] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, thanks :))
[01:32] <Bsims> exodus_ms: its whining about hal-info
[01:32] <Bsims> and removing that means removing most of my system
[01:32] <loa_dude> yo. what program/package controls volume automounting when in gnome? (plug in a usb key and something opens)
[01:32]  * Bsims is gonna try intalling hal-info with dpkg
[01:32] <gez> jp_sf: It seems related with ffmpeg
[01:32] <nickrud> leeping2007, just use caution :)
[01:33] <leeping2007> nickrud, about 30 minutes ago when I attempted to copy these files over, my DHCP instantly stopped working, and I figured that it was because the "group" attribute of the "call-dhclient-script"  got changed
[01:33] <exodus_ms> Bsims:   sudo dpkg -r hal hal-info
[01:33] <gez> But I already reinstalled every package related to ffmpeg and it still doesn't work.
[01:33] <exodus_ms> Bsims: sudo aptitude reinstall
[01:33] <Bsims> exodus_ms: that did it
[01:33] <Bsims> exodus_ms: dpkg install and I had already tried apt-get install --reinstall
[01:33] <leeping2007> nickrud, you're right.  I should have backed up the "group" file
[01:34] <exodus_ms> Bsims: so what is the status
[01:34] <leeping2007> Now I have to reinstall my system because I think I snafu'd it
[01:34] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: Its important that the gid and uid numbers are the same since those are what is stored on the filesystem
[01:34] <laughyn1nj4> can intrepid be installed as dual boot side by side w/ windows?
[01:34] <loa_dude> hello...  what program/package controls volume automounting when in gnome? (plug in a usb key and something opens)
[01:34] <lifenova> laughyn1nj4: yes
[01:34] <Dexi> Hey guys can anyone help me out, i cant find a single skype setting that works for my headset...
[01:34] <Bsims> exodus_ms: currently after an apt-get update and upgrade 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. no errors
[01:34] <t_> Hello?
[01:34] <t_> Anyone here?
[01:34] <laughyn1nj4> intrepid hates me
[01:34] <nickrud> leeping2007, if it's just gid's, you can restore by editing those files by hand.
[01:34] <exodus_ms> Bsims: so everything is cool?
[01:34] <leeping2007> nickrud, I don't know what the old gid's are
[01:35] <Bsims> exodus_ms: so its definately hal-info... but how to I write the bug report
[01:35] <weatherkid_> leeping2007: And if you did kill your system always you a alt. cd's recovery mode first
[01:35] <Bsims> exodus_ms: I'd say critical... breaks apt unless manualy installed
[01:35] <exodus_ms> Bsims: there is already one here --> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/53727
[01:35] <nickrud> leeping2007, the ls -l call-dhclient-script should show a number if there's no associated group. the gid is what is physically associated with the file
[01:35] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, right .. I don't want to change the numbers.  However, to add new users I should just modify the "group" and "passwd" files carefully
[01:35] <mitcheloc> hello, i'm having an issue with ubuntu, X isn't starting and i'm being told "Fatal error: no screens found"
[01:35] <weatherkid_> t_: what is the problem
[01:35] <nickrud> leeping2007, then you'd edit group to match
[01:36] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh never thought I'd need to install apt-bugreports on ubuntu
[01:36] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: You could try and track down a file owned by the group, DHCP might have a leases directory or some such
[01:36] <dsch04> Can I remove a package but not remove any dependencies ?
[01:36] <leeping2007> Ah I see.  I'm already reinstalling, but I'll remember the advice for later :))
[01:36] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007:
[01:36] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, at this point it's actually easier for me to reinstall.  I've installed pretty much nothing on that computer so far
[01:36]  * Bsims knows its a lifesaver on Debian Sid but Satan's blue testes I thought it was a bit more tested than that
[01:36] <leeping2007> I have the network boot set up so it works out well
[01:37] <exodus_ms> Bsims: there might be more info elsewhere, that bug I just linked you was posted 12-07-2008
[01:37]  * Bsims bows to your superior google foo exodus_ms 
[01:37] <weatherkid_> lol
[01:37] <nickrud> leeping2007, you might find it worth your while learning the adduser deluser usermod useradd commands for next time :)
[01:37] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: If your doing a cluster it might be worth looking at setting up a proper central login system with LDAP or whatever
[01:37] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh reminds me... need to rsync my box again
[01:38] <gez> jp_sf: Well, thank you very much for your time. I guess I'll keep trying for a couple of hours and I'll reinstall if I can't get it to work. I'd like to solve it in the right way and avoid reinstalling, but it already took too much time and I have work to do.
[01:38] <leeping2007> nickrud, I've used the "adduser" command before, but that requires the user to actually be present to type in their info
[01:38]  * Bsims used to do weekly rdiff-backups but ye gods and little fishes is rdiff slow
[01:38] <exodus_ms> Bsims: I got a couple of links on that as well, just kidding :P
[01:38] <gez> CU, bye!
[01:38] <nickrud> leeping2007, ? You can fake it, put an expiry on the password and force them to re enter a new one?
[01:39]  * Bsims grins at exodus_ms so once a week I do a sync and montly to a delete on the mirror side
[01:39] <leeping2007> True :P I can certainly do that
[01:39] <weatherkid_> Does anyone need any help?
[01:39] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh I got started with Linux back in 1999
[01:39] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, I usually just serve the home directory over NFS and put each computer's public key into the $HOME/.ssh directory
[01:39] <Type3Singularity> leeping2007: Try the useradd command instead, it doesn't ask for details
[01:39] <laughyn1nj4> can anyone hlep me with the manual partitioner in the intrepid install?
[01:39] <nickrud> leeping2007, but for long term stability and maintainability Type3Singularity's advice about ldap is better
[01:40] <jp_sf> gez: still here ?
[01:40] <Bsims> Ran sid till 2001ish and at the time stable was Potato and well my frankenbox was newer than testing and Sid was uninstallable so I kinda drifted to Ubuntu
[01:40] <jp_sf> gez: have a look into clonezilla to barebone your system
[01:40] <leeping2007> hm .. I should look it over. Thanks. :)
[01:40] <nickrud> but we're a bit off topic now ....
[01:40] <Type3Singularity> although im not sure how much use an account with a null password is
[01:40] <gez> jp_sf: Good idea. Thank you.
[01:40] <leeping2007> Type3Singularity, the useradd command looks like what I want.  I'm guessing I could type in the encrypted password as-is, without knowing the actual password
[01:40]  * Bsims winks at exodus_ms I am debating going back to Momma Debian but I have grown to like the polish this latest fiasco not withstanding
[01:41] <laughyn1nj4> what should i put as the mount point of my Ubuntu partition?
[01:41] <gez> laughyn1nj4: /
[01:41]  * Bsims looks all tough maybe once I order a second 1tb drive
[01:41] <laughyn1nj4> ok...thanks.  any idea why there are so many choices?   seems like / is the one and only right answer.
[01:42]  * Bsims says one for porn/music, one for /home
[01:43] <Bsims> exodus_ms: Heh I just don't want to build/reinstall things I am missing
[01:43] <Type3Singularity> Bsims: porn/music get a dedicated server which exports over the network in my house, also the porn is and encrypted loopback partition ;)
[01:43] <kristian1> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a computer on my wlan. i have installed openssh-server, and im able to connect to the machine via ssh/sftp with my main username/password with 192.168.0.100 as ip. however i want to create a new login for sftp, with username/password, that can only access ~/shared/ and directories within that directory. people using the login should only be able to download. not upload/delete/rename, etc. can anyone help me 
[01:43] <nickrud> laughyn1nj4, for other partition mount points; using a separate partition on /home can be very useful
[01:43] <ianm_> is some other action needed after adding a line to /etc/hosts like "11.11.11.11 domain.com" ?  it doesn't work in firefox
[01:43] <Fertech> i have a second hard drive of 320gb as a slave but only see 318.7 with it's own ubuntu partition. why do i see only 218.7GB?
[01:43] <Bsims> Type3Singularity: a man after my own heart
[01:44] <laughyn1nj4> i'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the concept that / is where a partition should be mounted   .... doesnt / exist on a partition?  why then is a partition mounted to /   ?
[01:44] <munk> hi all, anyone know where to ask about bridging wlan0 to a tap?
[01:44] <nickrud> laughyn1nj4, just a difference in perspective, both mean the same thing
[01:44]  * Bsims grins most porn is on disk some is external and ecrypted via truecrypt via hidden container
[01:44] <Fertech> i have a second hard drive of 320gb as a slave but only see 318.7 with it's own ubuntu partition. why do i see only 218.7GB?
[01:45] <Bsims> laughyn1nj4: / is the top most directory think / as /C on windows
[01:45] <rootforce> what you perceive as a directory structure is more like a tree with storage hanging off of it
[01:45] <Pyles17> what do i have to do to install ubuntu on a powerpc mac?
[01:45] <nickrud> !ppc
[01:45] <mercutio22> hi, how can I check a disk for defects?
[01:45] <munk> Fertech: I think the 2GB is for your partition table
[01:45] <Bsims> laughyn1nj4: most drives are shoved under /media/disk-whatever
[01:45] <WebcamWonder> Fertech: I assume you mean 318,7GB. 320 GB specification by HDD manufacturers is based on 1000 KB = B, not 1024
[01:46] <Pyles17> nickrud: thanks
[01:46] <Bsims> mercutio22: fdisk
[01:46] <Bsims> er fsck
[01:46] <Bsims> Sorry you want fsck
[01:46] <inflex> why does Ubuntu have an obsession with changing my Firefox paper type back to US-letter all the time?  The printer is configured as A4, everything I can see is A4... but Ubuntu keeps on changing Firefox back to US-Letter!
[01:46] <laughyn1nj4> m'kay :)
[01:46] <timecist> that's what she said
[01:46] <mercutio22> Bsims> thanks
[01:46] <Bsims> mercutio22: do you know what the partiion type is?
[01:46] <O__o> "ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' <----- what does the -t does here ??
[01:47] <Bsims> mercutio22: I'd run man fdisk before I did anything
[01:47]  * inflex thinks it's sad that an African-orientated distribution of linux has the compulsion to set paper types to one that only a tiny fraction of the world uses :(
[01:47] <WebcamWonder> inflex: I think that is more of an obsession with Firefox rather than Ubuntu. Do you have any reason to assume it is Ubuntu doing it?
[01:47] <weatherkid_> inflex: did you setup CUPS
[01:47] <Bsims> mercutio22: always good to read the manual
[01:47] <inflex> WebcamWonder: it only happens on my ubuntu machines
[01:47] <munk> whats a good channel to ask about networking in linux?
[01:47] <inflex> Slackware box is fine, likewise Mandrake and SuSE
[01:47] <Fertech> oh ok
[01:47] <O__o> ssh -t -L 5900:localhost:5900 far-host 'x11vnc -localhost -display :0' <---- and what -localhost and -display :0 do here?
[01:47] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Ahh. I take what I said back, it is Ubuntu's fault then :p
[01:47] <mercutio22> Bsims> NTFS
[01:47] <Bsims> munk: here as as good as anywhere though #linuxhelp is usefull
[01:47] <inflex> Of course, maybe WebcamWonder it's the "mix" of the two?
[01:48] <inflex> weatherkid_: yes, CUPS is setup
[01:48] <weatherkid_> munk: i may try #linuxforums
[01:48] <laughyn1nj4> i've installed and re-installed ibex on this thing so many times i'm msure the hd will fail
[01:48] <Bsims> mercutio22: Hrm try booting of your install cd for windows and running chdisk
[01:48] <Bsims> er scandisk or whatever the name is these days
[01:48] <Bsims> Not really done much with ntfs on linux
[01:49] <munk> I am trying to bridge my wlan0 to tap0 using brctl but I cant access the internet through either interface after, anyone know why?
[01:49] <esworp> hello from a  freshly instlled
[01:49] <esworp> er
[01:49] <WebcamWonder> inflex: I have noticed the same bug, but don't print as often to actually get bothered by it. You should file a bug with launchpad
[01:49] <mercutio22> Bsims> its an external HD. Do you still think its necessary?
[01:49] <inflex> WebcamWonder: good idea.
[01:49] <esworp> that was going to say : hello from a freshly install ubuntu-running OLPC... :/
[01:50] <loa_dude>  what program/package controls volume automounting when in gnome? (plug in a usb key and something opens)
[01:51] <WebcamWonder> loa_dude: gnome-volume-manager
[01:51] <step21_> esworp: hello back  ...
[01:51] <wers> i can hear myself on the speaker whenever i speak on the mic but the sound isn't detected on skype. any idea?:)
[01:51] <Bsims> mercutio22: well ntfs is still kinda flaky
[01:51] <Bsims> mercutio22: do you dual boot?
[01:51] <step21_> wers: change audio device in skype?
[01:51] <mercutio22> Bsims> yes I do
[01:52] <kristian1> i have ubuntu 8.10 installed on a computer on my wlan. i have installed openssh-server, and im able to connect to the machine via ssh/sftp with my main username/password with 192.168.0.100 as ip. however i want to create a new login for sftp, with username/password, that can only access ~/shared/ and directories within that directory. people using the login should only be able to download. not upload/delete/rename, etc. can anyone help me 
[01:52]  * Bsims smiles I prefer fat32 or ext3 for external drives to ntfs
[01:52] <loa_dude> thx WebcamWonder. is there a config file that controls the umask of files when mounted?
[01:52] <mercutio22> Bsims> I will do that then.
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> mercutio22: NTFS scanning tools are much better on Windows because NTFS is essentially implemented by Microsoft first. You should be able to acheive a better filesystem consistency
[01:52] <WebcamWonder> loa_dude: It respects fstab
[01:52] <srx2002> is there a GUI program for ubuntu simular to TSmuxer  that can split/edit/demux  mkv files?
[01:52] <mercutio22> WebcamWonder> I see...
[01:52] <loa_dude> WebcamWonder, sweet. thx
[01:52] <Bsims> mercutio22: may I suggest if you are gonna use it only with linux formating it ext3 as it respects permissons better
[01:52] <BluesKaj> How does one minimize an app to the taskbar? ...it just disappears down to left hand side of the panel withou any indication or icon
[01:52]  * esworp ducks in anticipation of backlash from a newb question..  
[01:52] <laughyn1nj4> cool.  how do i learn more about the linux file system?  google i supose
[01:53] <WebcamWonder> esworp: No need to. We are all here to help
[01:53] <esworp> can i add swap to a disk without having to repartition?
[01:53] <Bsims> mercutio22: for external drives fat32 is read by linux, windows, and mac its the lowest common demomiator
[01:53] <Flannel> !filesystem | laughyn1nj4
[01:53] <Flannel> esworp: You can add a swap file, yeah.
[01:53] <Flannel> !swap | esworp
[01:53] <mercutio22> Bsims> unfortunately, its my sister's drive and she uses windows. Next time I will format it to fat32
[01:53] <redstone> Hey all
[01:53] <Bsims> mercutio22: bacialy if you format it as fat32, everything can read it
[01:53] <laughyn1nj4> well i'd thank the bot , but...
[01:53] <mercutio22> yep
[01:54] <wers> step21_, thank you very much! :)
[01:54] <Bsims> mercutio22: how big is the data on it?
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> mercutio22: Don't use FAT. For the love of... anyone
[01:54] <esworp> even if i /am/ running from an SD card, I think swap wouold speed things up
[01:54] <step21_> wers: np ...
[01:54] <mercutio22> WebcamWonder> why so?
[01:54] <srx2002> anyone?
[01:54] <Bsims> WebcamWonder: beats the crap out of ntfs if you want to use it painfree on Linux
[01:54] <WebcamWonder> mercutio22: Bsims: 1 reason should suffice, Journaling
[01:54] <step21_> mercutio22: fat is outdated, unreilable... painful ...
[01:55]  * Bsims winks at WebcamWonder that said my external drive is ext3
[01:55] <step21_> yeah and journaling
[01:55] <mercutio22> hmmm
[01:55] <WebcamWonder> If you want a killer fs, I suggest razor :P
[01:55] <weatherkid_> !kde | weatherkid_
[01:55] <inflex> WebcamWonder: seems it's already there - been going since 2002  !!!   https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/10910
[01:55] <mercutio22> ok, I will just stick with ntfs for windows stuff then
[01:55]  * Bsims nods good help but as fdisking ntfs is kinda flaky fat32 really really does suck less
[01:55] <step21_> and fat files can't be bigger then 4 GB it think
[01:56] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Wow. I guess it is a really low priority bug
[01:56] <Bsims> er fscking
[01:56] <mercutio22> Bsims> I will use your first advice and boot into windows to check the windows disk
[01:56] <inflex> WebcamWonder: perhaps to ppl in the US :(
[01:56] <srx2002> anyone here using tsmuxer or simular to convert bluray's etc...
[01:56]  * Bsims smiles its my recomendation, and I've been linux full time from 2001 roughly
[01:57] <mercutio22> Thanks everyone for the advice
[01:57]  * Bsims grins dual boot from 1999 to today
[01:57] <mercutio22> later..
[01:57] <inflex> WebcamWonder: wastes trees through the fact that you end up having to print out twice (once to realise the stuffup, second when fixed)
[01:57] <Bsims> inflex: Heh get a duplexing printer and save paper
[01:57] <inflex> WebcamWonder: about the only 'fix' I have is to chattr +i the configuration file for FF
[01:57] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Did this work for you, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/10910/comments/11 ?
[01:57] <inflex> Bsims: had one :(
[01:58] <inflex> mmm... i'll try that WebcamWonder
[01:58] <Bsims> inflex: on my second one was an ancient ibm laserjet 4+p I sold for a song and the second was a samsung that speaks postscript
[01:58] <WebcamWonder> inflex: Remember to backup the relevant settings/profiles
[01:59] <inflex> Bsims: mine was a HP2200D
[01:59]  * Bsims grins sold a laserjet 4+ with max ram, real postscript card and duplexer for 50 bucks
[01:59] <Until_It_Sleeps> Ubuntu is not recognizing my wireless USB adapter. It used to before just fine, but now it won't detect it.
[01:59]  * Bsims laughs damn thing weighted better part of a 8 yearold... I think total weight was about 75lbs
[02:00] <Bsims> it had 64megs of ram ya could remove the postscript card and boost that to 90 something
[02:00] <Bsims> and a jetdirect card too
[02:00] <Until_It_Sleeps> Neither the installation in my laptop nor the one in my tower is not recognizing it.
[02:01] <bobbob1016> I'm not getting sound "aplay -l" lists my hardware, but no sound, any ideas?
[02:01] <srx2002> anyone here using tsmuxer?
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[02:01] <Bsims> replaced it with a ML-2850
[02:02] <Bsims> did use the linux provided drivers
[02:02] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Are you using aplay -D <your device name> ?
[02:02] <inflex> so long as the printers talk Postscript, i'm happy.  I find anything that doesn't talk PS ends up being a pain.
[02:03]  * Bsims pimps the ML-2850 28 A4 or 30PPM letter, built in postscript3, speaks USB, pcl6 and pcl5e and 10/100 networking with its own server
[02:04] <Bsims> best part its not that expensive
[02:04] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, Yes
[02:04] <Bsims> and it has a duplexer built in
[02:04] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: hmm, did you check the volume? :)
[02:05] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, Yes, checked that first
[02:05] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Then I am out of ideas. Try googling your sound card model number
[02:05] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, And speaker-test -c 6 -D output thinks it's working
[02:05] <racecar-56> back
[02:06] <Bsims> inflex: did have to monkey with it to get it to speak the same subnet as the rest of my lan
[02:06] <Until_It_Sleeps> Um, can somebody plz help me? Problems stated above.
[02:06] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, I was asking since it was working, and I updated alsa so I could get 5.1 from my spdif cable
[02:06]  * Bsims grins and debates a smoke vs cancer risk and pours myself another shot to chill while I smoke
[02:07] <bobbob1016> !patience | Until_It_Sleeps
[02:07] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Wait, so it was working, you updated, and it broke?
[02:07] <Until_It_Sleeps> :O
[02:07] <bobbob1016> WebcamWonder, Well as 2.1 it was working
[02:08] <Until_It_Sleeps> !help
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> bobbob1016: Ahh. I have no clue, worked with Alsa very little
[02:08] <WebcamWonder> Until_It_Sleeps: Did you upgrade/reinstall any of the versions of Ubuntu?
[02:08] <criloal> hi, I have  problems whit my nvidia. I am using Ubuntu 8.1. Some body  come help me ?
[02:09] <Until_It_Sleeps> WebcamWonder: Not recently. I'm using the same version (8.10) that I used when the adapter was working
[02:09] <WebcamWonder> Until_It_Sleeps: Can you test the adaptor with any other OS/PC to see if it is working? The adaptor might be dead itself
[02:10] <Until_It_Sleeps> I do have a multiboot going on my laptop. Both versions of Windows XP see the adapter just fine.
[02:11] <criloal> some one have problems with nvidia and ubuntu 8.1 ??
[02:12] <w33d5> what's the command for the ncurses sysV?
[02:12] <jords> Hmm... just did a adept update and it broke my sound. I've traced the problem to an error when trying to load the module snd-hda-intel (I have intel sound): [  189.459653] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add_slave   [  189.459675] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add_slave (in dmesg).  How can I get the drver working again?
[02:13] <codename> Is the Nvidia 180 driver in the repos?
[02:13] <Until_It_Sleeps> I do notice that it stopped recognizing it after I tried out a second USB adapter(Which I have no idea about it's location atm.).
[02:13] <racecar-56> brb
[02:13]  * racecar-56 is away: brb
[02:14] <redvamp128> codename:  you could possibly try the Nvidia site they probably have the .run for it.
[02:14] <talonstriker> need kde4.2 help:  how do you disable the system bell...I don't see an option under Setting Settings-> Notifications
[02:14] <nickrud> codename, yes, nvidia-glx-180
[02:14] <Until_It_Sleeps> If that causes previous adapters not to be recognized, that might explain why my tower is not recognizing it as well, as I have a Wireless PCI adapter in my tower.
[02:15] <criloal> yes, I have 180 driver in the repost,  I tray to install it , and
[02:15] <BluesKaj> !wifi
[02:15] <codename> So basically in Synaptic
[02:15] <codename> Uninstall the 177 stuff, then isntall the 180 stuff
[02:15] <raluk> salut
[02:15] <X1karr0usX> Until_It_Sleeps: check your private chat unless you are being helped
[02:16] <nickrud> talonstriker, codename yes
[02:16] <criloal> ok thank's I will it now
[02:16] <Xunie> I tried updating ubuntu (got a list of 150 MB, But with my current connection, No problemo!)...
[02:16] <nickrud> talonstriker, sorry, no kde help from me, I was about to suggest #kubuntu
[02:16] <Xunie> But I got an error at apt and it said to 'dpkg --configure -a', So I did, But there too I get that same dpkg error stating the following: dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[02:17] <MatBoy> I can't figure out what I miss when I get this sudo: export: command not found
[02:17] <ari_stress> hi guys, how do we know the UUID of a filesystem? mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/e883fe7b-5880-470a-8437-49addc9afe13 does not exist
[02:17] <ari_stress> !UUID
[02:17] <ari_stress> ow
[02:17] <Xunie> ari_stress, Normally its in /etc/fstab (appears to me)
[02:18] <srx2002> anyone here using tsMuxer for Ubuntu?
[02:18] <Xunie> (if its your root ofcourse or another system FS :P)
[02:18] <ari_stress> Xunie: i've just reformat a partition, i guess the uuid is changed?
[02:18] <MatBoy> ah ok, found it :)
[02:18] <X1karr0usX> im helping my last dude, then going to bed... later guys
[02:18] <Xunie> ari_stress, I dunno about that, I prefer the 'old skool' approach :P
[02:19] <nickrud> ari_stress, yes, the uuid will change when you reformat;   sudo blkid will give you the new uuid
[02:20] <ari_stress> nickrud: i've got the new uuid, but strange, mount says it's not recognizable
[02:20] <nickrud> typo?
[02:20] <ari_stress> UUID=e883fe7b-5880-470a-8437-49addc9afe13 /data           ext3    relatime        0       2
[02:20] <ari_stress> i copy paste
[02:21] <_DEL> i have a question about binaries, does anyone kknow of a good tutorial to compile them? I cant find the one i always use
[02:21] <mfrood> Can anyone recommend an app for remastering an ubuntu live CD? Something easy to use but effective and supports Hardy? Thanks!
[02:21] <ari_stress> !remaster
[02:21] <nickrud> ari_stress, and what's the exact output from  sudo mount /data
[02:21] <hvgotcodes> how can i get a jaunty package installed on intrepid?  I need the latest nvidia driver
[02:21] <nickrud> ah, remaster. Been trying to remember that one
[02:22] <whisperkiller> whats the comand to view processes running in CL?
[02:22] <ari_stress> nickrud: mount: special device /dev/disk/by-uuid/e883fe7b-5880-470a-8437-49addc9afe13 does not exist
[02:22] <ari_stress> whisperkiller: ps -aux | less
[02:22] <nickrud> ari_stress, compare  ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid/* against sudo blkid
[02:23] <nickrud> ari_stress, hm. I remember that now. I can't remember how to force the kernel to update it's list of uuid's.
[02:23] <ari_stress> nickrud: sda4 is not there
[02:23] <Freshy> i have installed both the LPR and CUPS driver but i think my device uri is wrong...
[02:23] <nickrud> ari_stress, I hate giving this advice, but if you reboot it'll be there ;(
[02:23] <ari_stress> nickrud: ahh.. hmm.. maybe i need to reboot? it's just been reformated
[02:23] <bnovc> i'm trying to do a distribution update, but the urls it is trying to download the files from don't exist...
[02:24] <bnovc> its trying to use us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/feisty/multiverse/binary-i386
[02:24] <yoyoned> bnovc: apt-get update
[02:24] <_DEL> i have a question about binaries, does anyone kknow of a good tutorial to compile them? I cant find the one i always use
[02:24] <bnovc> what/where should i change this to
[02:24] <bnovc> yoyoned: k
[02:24] <zanberdo_> is there a way that I can determine what group is required to execute a particular app?  specifically nm-applet.
[02:25] <bnovc> yoyoned: why isn't that run automatically on updates?
[02:25] <yoyoned> zanberdo_ ls -l
[02:25] <hvgotcodes> zanberdo_: i run nm-applet from the cl all the time with no group stuff
[02:25] <usser> zanberdo_, im not sure what you mean nm-applet is executable by your regular user
[02:25] <bnovc> apt-get update dies on the same thing
[02:25] <hvgotcodes> how can i get a jaunty package installed on intrepid?  I need the latest nvidia driver
[02:25] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, 180?
[02:25] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: 180.22
[02:26] <ari_stress> zanberdo_: anything that affects outside your /home directory means require root rights
[02:26] <atari2600a> hey, you guys know how in metacity you can drag windows inbetween workspaces in the little workspaces applet, but in compiz you can't?
[02:26] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: the latest 180.xx in intrepid is 11
[02:26] <atari2600a> is there a compiz plugin that adds that functionality?
[02:26] <nickrud> !prevu | hvgotcodes
[02:26] <bamhm182> hey
[02:26] <bnovc> apparently this is because fiesty now longer is update
[02:26] <bnovc> *updated
[02:27] <ari_stress> atari2600a: you still use atari? :) compiz replace that with "xinerama" effect
[02:27] <atari2600a> yeah, it's very useful!
[02:27] <bnovc> why do repositories for older versions of ubuntu just get deleted with no way to update anymore?
[02:27] <xSlack> How do i see if php5 and mySQL are running on my system
[02:27] <Dyla1> what's up with this thing?
[02:27] <Dyla1> brb
[02:27] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, you'll need nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 and nvidia-180-kernel-source at the least, I think
[02:27] <badcat> hello everyone, can someone please tell me how to partition my main hard drive? i'vetried with gparted but it won't allow me the option.
[02:27] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i dont want to backport
[02:28] <hvgotcodes> i want to forwardport ;)
[02:28] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, you'll have to, since the video driver is intimately tied to the kernel. You need to recompile the driver against the intrepid kernel
[02:28] <ari_stress> badcat: you want to add more? max partition is 4 primary, if you want more, change the 4th to extended one
[02:28] <usser> bnovc, its kind of expensive maintaining repositories, and ubuntu's philosophy is new release every six months, there are long term support releases that are supported for 3 years, hardy is lts
[02:28] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yeah i got those thru synaptic but the latest version is 180.11.  I need 180.12, which is the default for jaunty
[02:29] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ah i see what you mean
[02:29] <bamhm182> alright I think I got it now
[02:29] <bamhm182> yup
[02:29] <yoyoned> badcat: you can't partion a drive that is mounted.  get the gparted live cd
[02:29] <hvgotcodes> poo
[02:29] <bnovc> usser: i should at least be given the option to update to a newer version though....
[02:29] <bnovc> this is absurd that it just dies and i can't update
[02:29] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, and prevu will automate nearly everything
[02:29] <usser> bnovc, you do have that option
[02:29] <nownot> how do i update to the latest version of ubuntu?
[02:29] <yoyoned> bnovc: upgrade to hardy
[02:29] <usser> !upgrade | bnovc
[02:29] <bnovc> usser: how? it won't let me because these repos were removed
[02:29] <hvgotcodes> kde4.2 is practically unusuable for me L(
[02:30] <usser> bnovc, what do u want to upgrade to?
[02:30] <bnovc> the newest would be great
[02:30] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  Here's my .asound.rc
[02:30] <bamhm182> anyways, I decided to say screw Vista, and it wasn't going online, so I looked around for a copy of anything but Vista that I could install, Ubuntu 7.04 was the only one that I could find, but it's not letting me upgrade, any idea why not?
[02:30] <bobbob1016> http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[02:30] <zanberdo_> ok, to all that have offered suggestions: more information.  Without getting into too much detail I have switch from gdm to qingy.  As a result I have discovered that there are a few apps such as pulse/alsa and now evidently nm-applet that do not load.  I resolved the audio issue by adding my user to the audio group.  I'm assuming I can do the same for nm-applets.  I just need to figure out what group is required.  It's not dialout, b
[02:30] <zanberdo_> tw.  And yes, I can run it using sudo from cli, it just won't run as me
[02:30] <usser> bnovc, oh you are trying to upgrade from old version to slightly newer but still old :)
[02:30] <bamhm182> Is it just that it's not supported any more?
[02:30] <usser> bnovc, yea that kinda sucks
[02:30] <bnovc> usser: i'm trying to upgrade to whatever i can upgrade to
[02:30] <bnovc> i thought i would be able to upgrade without wiping and reinstalling?
[02:30] <Cpudan80> bamhm182: THat's far too old - just dl a new ISO
[02:30] <bnovc> apparently not :(
[02:31] <Cpudan80> bamhm182: In order to get up to date, you'd have to go from 7.04 --> 7.10 --> 8.04 --> 8.10
[02:31] <nownot> same here i have 8.04.2 and i want to upgreade to the latest one
[02:31] <xSlack> How do i see if I have mySQL and PHP5 running on my system
[02:31] <Cpudan80> nownot: so do it - run the upgrader
[02:31] <yoyoned> bnovc: update-manager -c
[02:31] <Flannel> Cpudan80, bamhm182: Or you can just stop at 8.04, which is an LTS.
[02:31] <vlada_ns> hello dale
[02:31] <Cpudan80> !upgrade | nownot
[02:31] <usser> bnovc, what version do u have?
[02:32] <bamhm182> alright, thank you Cpudan80, that's what I was thinking was going on, I've already got it working on downloading 8.10
[02:32] <bnovc> usser: 7.04
[02:32] <DaLe89> vlada_ns hellp
[02:32] <DaLe89> Laughing Out Loud
[02:32] <bnovc> yoyoned: that is what i tried to using originally
[02:32] <DaLe89> hello
[02:32] <bnovc> it says "New distribution release '7.10' is available"
[02:32] <bamhm182> Man, Vista wasn't going online for like an hour, so I said screw it and put in the CD, booted to the live CD and INSTANTLY the internet was working again
[02:32] <bnovc> i click it, it dies
[02:32] <vlada_ns> o chemu ovi razglabavaju?
[02:32] <bamhm182> that's what I get bnovc
[02:33] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ive read the prevu documentation more closely, seems to be exactly what i want thanx
[02:33] <miik> wow, people still use 7.04 wow
[02:33] <Cpudan80> bamhm182: In fairness, the Vista TCP/IP stack was probably broken - and could have been fixed with one command
[02:33] <usser> has 7.10 reached end of life?
[02:33] <bnovc> i don't use 7.04... i have it installed and i want to upgrade it
[02:33] <Cpudan80> But .... water under the bridge now I guess
[02:33] <Cpudan80> or over it
[02:33] <w33d5> what's the command for the ncurses sysV?
[02:33] <bamhm182> lol, only reason I'm on 7.04 is because I just needed to get off Vista, and I didn't have anything newer
[02:33] <bnovc> its pretty bad if it just dies updating
[02:33] <miik> oh
[02:34] <badcat> ari_stress i only have the main partition and the swap. is there away at least to shrink the main partition? (the one that ubuntu is installed on, when i'm in ubuntu?)
[02:34] <miik> dl 8.10 and burn that :d
[02:34] <bnovc> so if you're on 7.04 you're just completely screwed?
[02:35] <badcat> yoyoned. hmmm, in other words if i'm in ubuntu i can't partition the drive ubuntu is installed on right?
[02:35] <Flannel> bnovc: No, you just need to do some extra steps to upgrade to 7.10 (and then you do it entirely normally)
[02:35] <miik> 7.04 is unsupported, and outdated
[02:35] <yoyoned> badcat: right
[02:35] <bnovc> i don't want support beyond upgrading
[02:35] <bnovc> you shouldn't lose support for upgrading
[02:35] <miik> dont know, never upgraded from 7.04, but why not just get 8.10? its awesome
[02:35] <badcat> yoyoned, thanks
[02:35] <bnovc> and if you do, it shouldn't just die trying to download repositories
[02:36] <bnovc> it should say "we dont have time to fix the updating procedures for old version. you must reformat"
[02:36] <bnovc> miik: i was trying to ... via update
[02:36] <miik> oh
[02:36] <Flannel> bnovc: You just have to manually tweak some things.
[02:36] <Flannel> bnovc: It's entirely upgradable.  Whomever told you otherwise is mistaken.
[02:36] <nickrud> bnovc, listen to Flannel he seems to have specialized in this recently :)
[02:37] <bobbob1016> bnovc, http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/linux/upgrade-ubuntu-from-feisty-to-gutsy/
[02:37] <yoyoned> bnovc: there is one other thing you could try, but it may not go smoothly
[02:37] <bamhm182> I'll give that a shot, thanks bobbob1016
[02:37] <bnovc> bobbob1016: those are the steps i've tried that don't work
[02:37] <miik> 11.7 mb/s, wow i update from 8.10 to 9.04alpha in 1 minute
[02:37] <Flannel> bobbob1016, bobbob1016: That article isn't relevant at all.  It was only relative during the middle part of 2007.
[02:37] <Flannel> er, bnovc
[02:38] <bnovc> Flannel: what can i edit to get that procedure to work again?
[02:38] <bobbob1016> Flannel, Yes, but he's going from feisty to gutsy, which was relevant back then...  Shouldn't have changed.  If someone was asking how to install software on a 15 year old machine, telling them to put the floppy in wouldn't be irrelevant to them, but would in modern day standards.
[02:39] <TheOrz> hello
[02:39] <bnovc> and more important, has this been fixed in future versions so when they EOL they dont die with missing URL errors?
[02:39] <nickrud> bobbob1016, the repository has changed. Mainly
[02:39] <TheOrz> I've gotten 3 Linux Kernel 2.6.7-11 updates in the past 24 hours; anyone know what is going on?
[02:39] <Flannel> bobbob1016: No, that article is temporal, mentions things that were only necessary before Gutsy was officially released, etc.
[02:39] <patmanpato> hrm, whats the keyboard shortcut to jump to the "search" box in firefox on ubuntu? in windows it was ctrl+e
[02:39] <miik> TheOrz, yeah, i got that...
[02:39] <bamhm182> how do you kill a program that won't exit?
[02:39] <bnovc> patmanpato: ctrl+l+tab :D
[02:39] <bamhm182> Sorry, I'm new
[02:39] <yoyoned> bnovc: last resort - chnage every instance of fiesty to hardy in /etc/apt/sources.list then   apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:40] <miik> TheOrz, you probably have the "Proposed" repository enabled
[02:40] <Flannel> yoyoned: No.
[02:40] <Flannel> bnovc: No.
[02:40] <nickrud> bnovc, don't do that
[02:40] <bnovc> yoyoned: that sounds like it will cause even more problems
[02:40] <bobbob1016> nickrud, Yes, but I thought update -c or whichever was repo independent, as in it got the next version's location from a generic repo, not a specific place.  My bad.
[02:40] <TheOrz> miik: They are all listed under "Important Security Updates"
[02:40] <redvamp128> i think he means -d
[02:40] <miik> TheOrz, oh, then they are security updates... i got them too
[02:40] <erUSUL> patmanpato: Crtl + k
[02:40] <bnovc> i could just download another iso and install it, but i'm just shocked that the maintainers would delete a repository knowing that people using older versions would just die suddenly with vague errors
[02:40] <nickrud> bobbob1016, currently, the place for feisty is old-releases.ubuntu.com. Not automated at all :)
[02:40] <Flannel> bnovc: First, lets stick with the real pages: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes is for all releases, so once you're on Gutsy, you'll be able to get instructions on going to Hardy.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades  contains current information on upgrading to Hardy.
[02:40] <bobbob1016> Flannel, I get what you mean, I saw update -c and remember doing that all the time.
[02:41] <Flannel> bnovc: It's not deleted, it's moved.
[02:41] <vigo> The0rz: Seems like the last kernel update was buggy, or so I have seen in this IRC, so I guess is 'fixed' now, I just updated and all seems to work fine.
[02:41] <kansan> is there something that is NOT autossh that will keep a persistent ssh tunnel open?
[02:41] <TheOrz> miik: yeah but why are there 3 in one day to the same kernel? Just smelled like a fish.
[02:41] <bnovc> Flannel: either way, the error still says my network connection is broken and nothing about using too old of a version to upgrade
[02:41] <patmanpato> erUSUL: thanks
[02:41] <miik> TheOrz, hehe... maybe 2 were oops
[02:41] <miik> lol
[02:41] <Flannel> bnovc: If you go to that wiki page, it explains how to get access to those repositories.  I apologise for all of the blind-leading-the-blind going on here.
[02:41] <redvamp128>  update-manager -d
[02:41] <jords> Hmm... just did a adept update and it broke my sound. I've traced the problem to an error when trying to load the module snd-hda-intel (I have intel sound): [  189.459653] snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add_slave   [  189.459675] snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add_slave (in dmesg).  How can I get the drver working again?
[02:41] <syzygy> what is the command to extract tar.bz files?
[02:42] <bnovc> bunzip and tar
[02:42] <syzygy> tar -xf?
[02:42] <yoyoned> syzygy: tar jxvf
[02:42] <miik> jords, dont know, try google "snd_hda_intel: disagrees about version of symbol snd_ctl_add_slave" and "snd_hda_intel: Unknown symbol snd_ctl_add_slave"
[02:42] <syzygy> ty
[02:42] <AMDfanboy> hi, my transmission port stays open for a while then closes, what do i do?  thanks!
[02:42] <bnovc> Flannel: well probably easier if i just grab a new ISO at this point... im just really disappointed in this .... have the newer versions been corrected so when they end of life this doesn't happen?
[02:43] <Flannel> bnovc: The network upgrade isn't broken.  It's possible to upgrade, and many people have.
[02:43] <ryanprior> When I click my left and right mouse buttons at the same time, it registers as a middle-click. This is causing problems in some of the action games I play, which expect a right-then-left click in very quick succession. How can I disable the middle-click emulation feature?
[02:43] <bnovc> Flannel: it gives me an error, so it is broken... it may be fixable but that doesn't mean it is done correctly right now
[02:43] <leeping_> Hey all, I am having trouble forwarding X with my new computer.  I already enabled the relevant line in /etc/sshd_config.  Is there anything else I should do?  Thanks.
[02:44] <jords> miik: I have googled, i it seems to be related to the kernel and module versions being mismatched but that doesnt really help me to get the new version of the module
[02:44] <bnovc> leeping_: what command are you using to ssh
[02:44] <yoyoned> leeping are you using ssh -X
[02:44] <leeping_> bnovc, I'm using ssh -Y
[02:44] <Flannel> bnovc: Um.  Right.  Just because people were giving you poor information here has nothing to do with broken.  Also, you were given at least two months from the *end* of Feistys support where it "wasn't broken" (didn't require extra steps).
[02:44] <bnovc> need -X
[02:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !eol
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> !lts
[02:45] <bnovc> Flannel: but i'm saying that it should bring up a dialog and say "You need to go to <url> and follow steps" or something instead of just saying the url is missing
[02:45] <nickrud> !jack_sparrow
[02:45] <Jack_Sparrow> Hey Nick
[02:45] <nickrud> Hi jack
[02:45] <nickrud> !flannel
[02:45] <nickrud> all gone :(
[02:46] <Cocoabean> hello, does anyone know how to enable /dev/tcp in bash on debian/ubuntu systems
[02:46] <leeping_> Furthermore, when I log into the new machine I don't get a $DISPLAY environment variable.
[02:46] <_VIM_> lol the ops are !fishing
[02:46] <_VIM_> :p
[02:46] <vigo> That was funny
[02:46] <Flannel> bnovc: That's somewhat non-sensical, since in order for you to get the "the repos have moved" update, you'd have to have the repos available to update.
[02:47] <bnovc> Flannel: no... if(repos don't exist) { print "could be network trouble OR youre too old and need to visit X" }
[02:47] <bnovc> users with old versions shouldn't be expected to saerch for error messages and ask on irc to find out why they can't update
[02:47] <Cocoabean> !/dev/tcp
[02:47] <Flannel> bnovc: That'd give way too many false positives when it is network trouble, and would cause more panic than it saves.  The majority of people upgrade in a timely manner.
[02:48] <Jordan_U> Flannel: Are there any plans that you know of to at least warn people that EOL is near / has come so we don't get as many questions about the repos being "broken" ?
[02:48] <bnovc> Flannel: the majority of people that you know, perhaps?
[02:48] <Flannel> bnovc: This is getting offtopic, if you'd like to continue this conversation, I'd be happy to continue it, but in #ubuntu-offtopic, not here.
[02:51] <Shwaiil> Hi ppl
[02:53] <bamhm182> hey Shwail
[02:53] <Shwaiil> Q: I want to start using linux, I heard a few years ago about ubuntu, meanwhile I asked about this around, and theres lots of people saying that there's other alternatives. So, why ubuntu and not other distributions? I'm a student, work a lot on audio, graphics, internet, etc, wish ubuntu has a version with that included. Any sugestion is appreciated. Tks!
[02:53] <Shwaiil> bamhm182, hi ;D
[02:53] <bamhm182> sorry if someone answered my question, but I didn't see it. How do you kill a program that won't close?
[02:54] <Flannel> Shwaiil: Ubuntu Studio would have all that stuff installed by default, however you can always install the "regular" Ubuntu, and then add the various programs (and thats probably a better bet)
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> Shwaiil That is offtopic for the support channel.. But we are a bit slow so.. Ubuntu Studio is what you want
[02:54] <Jack_Sparrow> !studio
[02:55] <bamhm182> thank you, I was just about to ask
[02:56] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  Here's my .asound.rc http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[02:56] <bamhm182> if I was looking for a photoshop-like application for Ubuntu, Ubuntu Studio would work right?
[02:56] <Shwaiil> I'm sorry I didnt knew this was the support channel and that my question was offtopic :D but thansk for your sugeston
[02:56] <Shwaiil> bamhm182, I use Gimp...
[02:56] <lifenova> bamhm182: GIMP is very near to photoshop and comes with Ubuntu by default ;)
[02:56] <Jack_Sparrow> bamhm182 Just gimp or gimpshop
[02:56] <bamhm182> alright
[02:56] <Shwaiil> but.. didnt experienced ubuntu yet
[02:56] <bamhm182> thanks
[02:56] <vigo> bahm182: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1048693&highlight=force+quit That might be the solution
[02:56] <bamhm182> it's worth a shot
[02:56] <Shwaiil> Gimp is really good bamhm182!
[02:57] <vigo> or a solution
[02:57]  * racecar-56 is back (gone 00:43:31)
[02:57] <bamhm182> something I recommend trying is the 3D cube effect once, and if, you get on Ubuntu, it's cool
[02:57] <leeping_> Hey there, anyone here know why I'm not getting a $DISPLAY environment variable when I ssh into my new computer?
[02:57] <racecar-56> im back
[02:57] <leeping_> (supporting info: I installed the Server Edition of Ubuntu .. maybe I need to install some missing packages?)
[02:58] <bamhm182> I had that installed last time I was on Ubuntu and it's neat, haven't got it installed this time yet
[02:59] <bamhm182> thanks for the force quit help vigo
[03:00] <vigo> If it worked, then I am happy
[03:00] <ineedubuntuhelp> hello all
[03:00] <G__81> i am downloading Ubuntu 8.10 just want to know that now all ubuntu releases are supported for 18 mths ?
[03:01] <G__81> i mean apart from the LTS release
[03:01] <G__81> ?
[03:01] <maxxist> hello ineedubuntuhelp
[03:01] <bamhm182> crap, I hit ctrl+alt+backspace thinking before I finished reading the sentence :P
[03:01] <Flannel> G__81: That's how its always been yes.
[03:01] <bamhm182> Now I get to restart my download! :D
[03:01] <racecar-56> lol
[03:01] <bamhm182> oh well, at least it killed the update manager
[03:02] <maximumbob> does anyone know how to make the Screen license page not appear every time you start it? I've looked around in .screenrc but wasn't sure what to look for.
[03:03] <marcel> how can i install gas ?
[03:03] <ineedubuntuhelp> !wifi
[03:03] <jtaji> maximumbob: startup_message off
[03:03] <AETE_KRAOUD> hi guys!
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> nobody is writing e?
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> i am so sad
[03:05] <racecar-56> ?
[03:05] <lifenova> !offtopic
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> racecar-56, : hi
[03:05] <Xintruder> does ubuntu use a special encryption method?
[03:05] <Xintruder> like xp uses efs
[03:05] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : no
[03:05] <Flannel> AETE_KRAOUD: This is a support channel, if you're looking for conversation, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[03:06] <maxxist> anyone else get a weird white line under your gnome panel when using cube rotate effect in compiz?  its sort of like a tearing line right across the underside of the panel.  its works fine,  just a visual glitch i was curious about.
[03:06] <AETE_KRAOUD> Flannel, : thanks ok
[03:06] <Xintruder> how can i encrypt my ubuntu, to keep it safe from attacks?
[03:06] <bamhm182> I've just got 1 more complaint about Ubuntu, I've got a USB bluetooth keyboard, and every time that I turn on my computer, I have to unplug the dongle, wait a few seconds, than plug it back in
[03:06] <b_e_n_z> want to know if anyone has setup a db2 express-c v9.5 instance on ubuntu and can use SQL Squirrel client to remotely connect to it
[03:06] <ineedubuntuhelp> i am having a little trouble loading a driver. i wonder if anyone in here has any experience with that. i am trying to load a driver for an intel 5100 wifi card using the ndiswrapper tool for windows wireless drivers. the output of my "ndiswrapper -l" shows my driver installed, yet my "iwconfig" shows "no wireless extensions". i am told (on this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper) to then use the com
[03:06] <bamhm182> does anyone have any tips to fix that?
[03:07] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : there is  an option in ubuntu 8.10
[03:07] <Xintruder> what option
[03:07] <ineedubuntuhelp> i am told i have a driver "installed", but not "loaded"...not sure if this is the case (or even possible)
[03:07] <martin_> hello
[03:07] <b_e_n_z> i am using the IBM Net Driver (jdbc Type 4)
[03:08] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : the option to encrypt a filesystem
[03:09] <Xintruder> AETE_KRAOUD: where is it?
[03:09] <maxxist> Xintruder what part of ubuntu do you want to encrypt?  web access? disk access?
[03:10] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : ask maxxist  :-) better :-)
[03:11] <elysium444> can i install ubuntu into a usb and make changes there. not a live usb i mean
[03:11] <Xintruder> maxxist: AETE_KRAOUD told me to ask u
[03:12] <Dr_willis> elysium444,  yes. to some degree.. Theres that usb-disk creater tool that lets you have some persistant changes.. it works decently well.
[03:12] <ineedubuntuhelp> anybody in here know anything about loading a driver? i am new to ubuntu and cannot seem to get it to work
[03:12] <Dr_willis> elysium444,  then theres doint an actual 'install' to a external usb drive.. but that can be more problemnatic
[03:12] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  tell the channel more details as to what 'driver' you are refering to.
[03:12] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder,  : I have work bye :-)
[03:12] <AETE_KRAOUD> bye
[03:13] <Xintruder> AETE_KRAOUD: ma 3indik ma 3nd jadity
[03:13] <maxxist> elysium444 if you are trying to install ubuntu to a usb drive and use it as an bootable Operating System yes you can. follow up on Dr_willis comment
[03:13] <ineedubuntuhelp> the driver i am using is the windows wireless driver, available on intellinuxwireless.org for the intel 5100...i have it on my desktop
[03:13] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : what ?
[03:13] <Xintruder> ma 3indik ma 3nd jadity
[03:14] <elysium444> thanks guys
[03:14] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : in english ?
[03:14] <Xintruder> that is
[03:14] <ineedubuntuhelp> it reads as "netw5v32"
[03:14] <ineedubuntuhelp> and informs me that it is installed, with hardware present
[03:14] <maxxist> i smell a troll.
[03:14] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  its possible that driver is allready installed in ubuntu,. then again its possible its not. You may want to check the ubuntu forums for that exact chipset -  you may have to resorte to compiling it from source.. which can be a daunting task for a new user of linux.
[03:15] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder, : but what does it means?
[03:15] <Xintruder> AEi have work too, bye.
[03:15] <ineedubuntuhelp> that sounds daunting...i upgraded to ibex, and was told ibex had native support for the intel 5100
[03:15] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  if  you compiled/ and installed it - and knew the module name, you could manually load the module.
[03:15] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  then it proberly does.. and its just a configuration issue you need to be working on.. not the driver issue.
[03:15] <AETE_KRAOUD> Xintruder,  : whatever whatever ....................................................................................................................
[03:16] <Xintruder> :)
[03:16] <maximumbob> jtaji: thanks.
[03:16] <ineedubuntuhelp> even if i am getting a "no wireless extensions" readout from iwconfig?
[03:16] <maximumbob> Also, when I use gnome's terminal's transparent background feature... it always just shows through to the desktop image. And not very well at that.
[03:17] <maximumbob> Is there a way to use true transparency here or would I need compositing?
[03:17] <Dr_willis> maximumbob,   You would have to use the compiz features for 'true' transparency
[03:17] <Xintruder> how can i assign file permissions using the gui, rather than terminal
[03:18] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  right click on the file -> properties - i think. :)
[03:18] <maximumbob> Dr_willis: darn. On my thinkpad, compiz breaks something. When I go to suspend with compiz enabled, my screen doesn't come back on when I come back.
[03:18] <lifenova> Xintruder: right click and then it's an option in the properties window
[03:18] <ineedubuntuhelp> also, dr willis: when you say configuration, do you just mean network configuration?
[03:18] <esworp> so..  i'm using Xfce, and need a calendar/PIM that can sync with google calendar..  any hints?
[03:19] <Dr_willis> ineedubuntuhelp,  yep. You may want to check out the wireless forums/threads on the ubuntu sites. - For my 2 wireless cards.. they just 'work' so i have no experience with troubleshooting the things.  THey either worked for me.. or they were totally unsupported.
[03:19] <ineedubuntuhelp> ok
[03:19] <esworp> i've use gpecal a lot on my n800..  but was wondering if there's a beter option
[03:19] <ineedubuntuhelp> im going to check some of the network setup issues
[03:19] <ineedubuntuhelp> thanks
[03:19] <esworp> !calendar
[03:19] <maximumbob> Also, do you know how to fix the problem with compiz where it breaks the 'desktop array' thing at the bottom: The bottom half is always black
[03:20] <big> !list
[03:21] <esworp> !gpe
[03:21] <esworp> !ical
[03:21] <Dr_willis> !fishing
[03:21] <Dr_willis> :)
[03:21] <esworp> doh
[03:21]  * nickrud is slooww tonight
[03:21] <esworp> sorry .. that /was/ rude. my bad
[03:22] <Dr_willis> I always got an Chat window to Ubottu :)
[03:22]  * nickrud boggles at someone actually apologizing. His faith is renewed :)
[03:23] <george_st-pierre> Hello all, I have a quick question.  Is it possible to run multiple tunnels on a single box?  like one tunnel to HE, one to another provider, etc.
[03:23] <laughyn1nj4> i can't find /boot/grub/stage1   and i can't find /grub/stage1 ; why this is?
[03:23] <Joeseph> hi. I was wondering how to switch the default port for the http interface on vlc to something other than 8080.       any ideas?
[03:24] <Dr_willis> Joeseph,  check the vlc homepage. and docs.. it has a HUGE  section of well done docs.. its a command line artument/config file setting i imagine
[03:25] <laughyn1nj4> the ubuntu install crapped out right at the end with some sort of grub error .. i want to install grub myself but can't find stage1   what gives?
[03:26] <malibu> When I ssh into my machine or do an su - I get about a 20 second lag... Does anyone know how to start troubleshooting something like that?
[03:29] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  possible the package failed to install.  You could boot a live cd. chroot to the installed system and reinstall the grub packages
[03:29] <nkei0> Hey everyone, have any of you installed the new ati graphics driver?
[03:30] <n8tuserf> malibu -> look at the sshd_config file for resolving your host where you are logging on from
[03:30] <laughyn1nj4> chroot to installed sys ... tell me more...what's the cmd line?
[03:30] <malibu> n8tuserf: Is that a yes/no kind of option?
[03:31] <Dr_willis> !grub | laughyn1nj4
[03:31] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  'chroot /media/mountpoint'  and then  there may be more to it then that.
[03:31] <laughyn1nj4> i've done all that
[03:31] <nkei0> Anyone want to help me out, I'm trying to install the new ati graphics driver but it won't let me sh it
[03:31] <n8tuserf> malibu -> or maybe you can disable the GSSAPI authentications
[03:31] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  some times it just pays big time to learn  the down and dirty detail of grub.
[03:32] <malibu> n8tuserf: That sounds more along the lines of what I need to do
[03:32] <elysium444> does the usb-creator install ubuntu into a usb in a way that can save software changes and other system changes after reboot?
[03:32] <laughyn1nj4> ok ... i'm trying.  i know my ubuntu system is inttalled on sda2 ... so i must mount that somewhere then chroot to that mount point?  is tthat correct?
[03:32] <nkei0> Oh haha, nevermind i got it to work
[03:33] <Rambozo> is there a virtual package to get the proper packages for a basic dev environment set up?
[03:33] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  yes. b
[03:34] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  then one or more sections of the 'fix grub' docs - detils the commands needed to properly reinstall grub
[03:35] <kizer> hey
[03:35] <bizkit_> im trying to see what i have on secondary drive, but my linux box is only seeing the /boot on the secondary drive
[03:35] <kizer> would anyone know if the eeepc 900A has multitouch capabilities
[03:36] <kizer> ?
[03:36] <laughyn1nj4> ok thanks.  i'm off to hack away
[03:36] <kizer> I'm hunting for a netbook
[03:36] <vigo> Yipeeee! default is SeaMonkey
[03:36] <elysium444> does the usb-creator install ubuntu into a usb in a way that can save software changes and other system changes after reboot?
[03:36] <kizer> elysium444: yes it can
[03:36] <kizer> it make a persistant install
[03:37] <elysium444> kizer: thanks
[03:37] <kizer> sure
[03:37] <malibu> n8tuserf: how do I disable GSSAPI auths?
[03:37] <kizer> I suggest doing a normal install onto an hd and then just select where you want the boot loader installed
[03:38] <kizer> Oh and by the way. Kudos to Crunchbang linux!!!
[03:38] <kizer> a new offspring of ubuntu
[03:38] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  Here's my .asound.rc http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[03:39] <n8tuserf> malibu -> comment them
[03:39] <laughyn1nj4> ok this is crazy.   my sda2 partition says it's FAT16 ... i KNOW i told the partitioner to make it ext3
[03:39] <malibu> n8tuserf: Yeah found it.. sshd_config
[03:40] <malibu> n8tuserf: Turning off GSSAPI didn't work
[03:41] <n8tuserf> malibu -> did you restart sshd ?
[03:41] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  'sudo fdisk -l' and look. It may be you are looking at  a usb drive.. or somthng
[03:42] <malibu> n8tuserf: yup
[03:42] <n8tuserf> malibu -> try to google for info on such
[03:42] <laughyn1nj4> sudo fdisk -l is what i did to discover the FAT16 .... i just rebooted back to the live cd ... there are no usb drives connected ...
[03:43] <hvgotcodes> i tried to use prevu to build the jaunty version of nvidia drivers but got the following error: dpkg-source: failure: cannot open *.dsc: No such file or directory
[03:44] <malibu> n8tuserf: Yeah.. I will keep trying
[03:44] <n8tuserf> laughyn1nj4 -> you may have told the partitioner, but did you tell the partitioner to write your selection?
[03:44] <malibu> Running out of search terms
[03:44] <hvgotcodes> can someone assist me on that prevu error?
[03:45] <laughyn1nj4> i hit [next] or whatever ... thought the partitioner would write upoon next ... going on about the 15th attempt at this.
[03:45] <malibu> n8tuserf: This might be something... I just noticed console-kit-daemon using 99% CPU
[03:45] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  i tend to partition the disks first.. then tell the installer where to go to
[03:45] <laughyn1nj4> how does one do that?
[03:46] <laughyn1nj4> what other partitioner is there?
[03:46] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: are you familiar with prevu errors?
[03:46] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  fdisk, cfdisk, gparted,
[03:46] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, no ... the one time I used it it worked flawlessly
[03:47] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, and for me, that's necessary :)
[03:47] <malibu> n8tuserf: Awesome I think that was it
[03:47] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: what do you mean necessary?
[03:47] <laughyn1nj4> try and try again as they say
[03:47] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, because I don't understand the errors?
[03:48] <albuntu> hello to all
[03:48] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: oh, lol
[03:48] <n8tuserf> malibu -> what was it?
[03:48] <hvgotcodes> i wonder if it failed because the package is in the restricted repo for jaunty
[03:49] <albuntu> i removed iscponfig and i am getting this error with apache now : http://paste.ubuntu.com/111942/. anyone that can help ?
[03:50] <laughyn1nj4> now the installer's partitioner reads it as ext3 ... i thought i told it ext3 ... wonder why fdisk says fat32?   unexpeccted.
[03:50] <albuntu> now apache always fails with that error if i try to start it
[03:51] <Dr_willis> laughyn1nj4,  some partitioner tools require you to 'apply/write' changes to disk.
[03:51] <ari_stress> albuntu: better uninstall apache, and delete all it's config files in /etc/apache2
[03:51] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: does prevu only work on source packages?
[03:51] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, that's it's purpose, yes
[03:51] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: so i cant use it to get a binary package
[03:51] <laughyn1nj4> ok.  this is the partitioner that comes up when you install ibex ... there is no apply/write ... only -->forward
[03:52] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, no
[03:52] <Xintruder> is there a guest account enabled by default??
[03:52] <n8tuserf> not that i knew of
[03:52] <albuntu> ari_stress: why is that ? isnt any simple solution because i have made many changes to the config files in apache and i dont remember all of them. i tried uninstalling apache and reinstalling it but that didnt help
[03:52] <malibu> n8tuserf: I'm reading a long big report right now on consolekit
[03:52] <laughyn1nj4> fat16 ...that's ancient ... windows 98 used fat16 !
[03:53] <ari_stress> albuntu: because uninstalling doesn't remove the config files
[03:53] <malibu> Apparently it was just fixed the other day
[03:53] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i keep forgetting that any binary for jaunty wont work on intrepid
[03:53] <hvgotcodes> nvidia-180-glx should be valid right?
[03:53] <malibu> n8tuserf: It seems I got bit by this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/284229
[03:53] <albuntu> ari_stress: you mean removing all the apache2 folder in etc ?
[03:53] <Xintruder> is there a guest account enabled by default?? in ubuntu 8.10
[03:53] <malibu> n8tuserf: I need to run an update
[03:53] <ari_stress> albuntu: correct
[03:53] <albuntu> ari_stress: ok let me try
[03:53] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, no, it's nvidia-graphics-driver-180 (at least in intrepid)
[03:53] <codename> join /#ubuntuforums
[03:53] <laughyn1nj4> when i mount sda2 i can see all the dirs one would expect in / on a linx sys
[03:54] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, the source file that is
[03:54] <laughyn1nj4> it's there ...
[03:54] <nickrud> Xintruder, no
[03:54] <adred> hi..why do it get this error each time i update my system: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5DC4E17435661D98. anyone know what it means?
[03:54] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: thanx, i tried that same error
[03:54] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  they have a 'guest' feature where you Login in as normal account and then  if someome wants to borrow the pc.. you 'switch' to guest. account
[03:55] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, try looking on packages.ubuntu.com for the name; I wouldn't be terribly suprised if it changed across releases
[03:55] <Xintruder> Dr_willis: so the guest account is enabled by default in ubuntu?
[03:55] <nickrud> Dr_willis, there is? What's it's home?
[03:55] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/nvidia-glx-180
[03:55] <hvgotcodes> the source package is what you said -- didn't work
[03:56] <hvgotcodes> what is the launchpad url i can try pinging it
[03:56] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, if you look on the column on right, it lists the source package name
[03:56] <albuntu> ari_stress: did everything that you said. now i get this trying to start apache : /etc/init.d/apache2: line 44: /etc/apache2/envvars: No such file or directory
[03:56] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yes it is what you said
[03:56] <Dr_willis> nickrud,  it dosent have a 'home' its a special semi-account
[03:56] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, nope, I had a typo: nvidia-graphics-drivers-180  (drivers, not driver)
[03:56] <ari_stress> albuntu: i mean uninstall, remove the dirs, then install apache again, it will give you clean config
[03:56] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  its not quite the same as  a 'account called guest' its just a 'guest' feature
[03:57] <ari_stress> albuntu: use synaptic, re-install apache
[03:57] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ah lets try that
[03:57] <nickrud> Dr_willis, ah, thanks.
[03:57] <arrrghhh> so ubuntu seems to be stealing my printer from my virtual machine.  how do i "umount" a printer from ubuntu using the cli?
[03:57] <Xintruder> Dr_willis: windows has guest disabled by default. does that make ubuntu less secure?
[03:57] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: Success
[03:57] <albuntu> ari_stress: thats what i did. --purged , removed the /etc/apache2 folder and reinstalled
[03:57] <pc03> ndar_cool
[03:57] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  its not the same sort of thing..  comparing apples and oranges.
[03:57] <ari_stress> albuntu: is there any /etc/apache2 dir now?
[03:58] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  Linux is more secure from the ground up due to how the filesystem/permissions work. for one thing
[03:58] <albuntu> ari_stress:
[03:58] <albuntu> no
[03:58] <nickrud> plus the radically reduced number of targets, making it a much less productive hack
[03:58] <Xintruder> Dr_willis: i logged out ubuntu mate, i cant find guest. where is it located?
[03:58] <ari_stress> albuntu: what :)
[03:59] <Zard0z> Anyone know how I can make "cpio -i" output to a folder other than the one it is in?
[03:59] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: did i need to run prevu package in a sudo?
[03:59] <Citizen_Z> Greetings, quick question. Is printing to Novell NetWare printers still not supported by any package in Ubuntu?
[03:59] <grendal_prime> i have  a web cam on a machine that is behind a firewall,  what is the best way to stream webcam stuff through the firewall?
[04:00] <grendal_prime> something simple...
[04:00] <Zard0z> Is there a general way to do this inLinux maybe?
[04:00] <pkundu> hi anybody here running utorrent in ubutu with wine
[04:00] <ari_stress> albuntu: Zard0z, find /blabla | cpio -i > /path/to/bla2
[04:00] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, only for the init; for the build you don't
[04:00] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: thats what i thought thanx
[04:00] <Zard0z> @ari_stress - rly? - thought I'd tried that! - Will try again - thx! :-)
[04:00] <arrrghhh> Xintruder, guest is disabled... but by default the "normal" user has "root" priveleges in the system.
[04:01] <Xintruder> ok thank you
[04:03] <kbreit> I am trying to get Ubuntu working on my laptop with an Atheros (I think) wireless card internally.  My AP is using AES and WPA2 personal.  Ubuntu isn't installed as I want to prove I can have it working before writing to the disk.  Can someone help me get wireless working?
[04:04] <Zard0z> ari_stress, no joy, I'm trying to decompress a CPIO filesystem withing a GZ to an absolute path...
[04:04] <keithclark> Anyone know how to get sound working in 8.10/
[04:05] <grendal_prime> keithclark: what card?
[04:05] <keithclark> grendal_prime, not sure
[04:05] <Zard0z> Tried zcat /var/shit/initrd.gz | cpio -i >/var/shit/decompressed but that just gives me "/var/shit/decompressed/: Is a directory" :-/
[04:06] <n8tuserf> !ohmy | Zard0z
[04:06] <Fezzler> would "locate ~/.pilotmailrc" find this file if it resides anywhere on my computer?
[04:06] <Zard0z> Whoops - sorry!
[04:07] <keithclark> grendal_prime, how to tell?
[04:07] <Zard0z> My systemis full of mucky paths *blush*
[04:07] <Dr_willis> Xintruder,  you DONT log out.. You login as a normal user and then that user switching applet has the 'guest' thing...  its not a 'normal account'
[04:07] <clrtxt> What's required to get plug and play working with usb keys and usb mice?
[04:08] <_VIM_> Fezzler: you might have to run 'sudo updatedb' first then type 'locate filenameGOESHERE |less'
[04:08] <keithclark> Ok, anyone else help with no sound?
[04:08] <Pyles17> is there a way to get a live cd for powerpc macs? because as i understand, the alternate installer doesn't have live cd capability
[04:08] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: so prevu finished, now i don't see the new packages in synaptic.  if they have the same name as the intrepid package, will it just be a straight update?  Or should it still show up?
[04:08] <Pyles17> keithclark: alsamixer?
[04:09] <keithclark> Pyles17, yes
[04:09] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, when you did the prevu-init, did you tell it to use apt ?
[04:09] <Pyles17> keithclark: so you tried that. that's all i know
[04:09] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yes
[04:10] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, it should be there. Try updating synaptic
[04:10] <hvgotcodes> apt-get says the following packages will be kept back and then nvidia-glx-180
[04:10] <hvgotcodes> The following packages will be upgraded: nvidia-180-kernel-source nvidia-180-modaliases
[04:10] <n8tuserf> Dr_willis -> does it have an entry in /etc/passwd ?
[04:10] <carpediem> keithclark: Try "sudo killall pulseaudio"
[04:10] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, run apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-180 , and put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:11] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: ok
[04:11] <Dr_willis> n838901,  it doent have a pasword.. so i would guess no.
[04:11] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, you've never said why you need the latest jaunty by the way
[04:11] <ddelong4> Anyone here want to help me out with a question?
[04:11] <clrtxt> is plug and play supposed to work out of the box?
[04:12] <keithclark> carpediem, thats the one!
[04:12] <Pyles17> !ask
[04:12] <carpediem> ddelong4: please, just ask
[04:12] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/111945/
[04:12] <carpediem> keithclark: cool
[04:12] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: want to see if latest nvidia drivers makes kde go better
[04:12] <Zard0z> OK, in less smutty language! "zcat initrd.gz | cpio -i"  works fine if my current dir is the one I want to unzip it into, is there any way to make this output to an arbitrary folder other than cd'ing into it first?
[04:12] <keithclark> carpediem, is that permanent?
[04:12] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, ok, the same for the kernel module source
[04:12] <wolter> hi, i get this error when trying to run etracer " X11 driver not configured with OpenGL"
[04:13] <ddelong4> Lol, okay. After installing Ubuntu, I just realized that I cannot burn or read any type of disk. I cannot mount nor open them.
[04:13] <bruenig> wolter: pretty straight forward what the problem is there
[04:13] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: whats the package?
[04:13] <nickrud> nvidia-180-kernel-source
[04:13] <wolter> bruenig, what do you mean?
[04:13] <bruenig> ddelong4: what happens when you try?
[04:13] <carpediem> keithclark: pulseaudio is alpha at best, they never should've included it as the default in Ubuntu.  It needs the occasional kick in the butt....especially after things like hibernate, hung flash player, etc.
[04:13] <ddelong4> One moment.
[04:13] <bruenig> wolter: the error message is quite explicit
[04:14] <keithclark> carpediem, cool!  Again, is this fix permanent?
[04:14] <wolter> bruenig, well, it may be for you, but do you have any idea of how could I fix it? my xorg.conf has nvidia as driver.
[04:14] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/111946/
[04:14] <wolter> bruenig, I use compiz...
[04:14] <carpediem> keithclark: I have to run that command every so often....so if you lose sound again, run it.
[04:14] <ddelong4> This is what I get when I try to mount. Cannot invoke CheckForMedia on HAL: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.
[04:14] <keithclark> carpediem, excellent now that I know that!
[04:15] <incadudeF> hello everyone im getting this when trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[04:15] <jeancalvin> what's the different between a PATCH cable and an ETHERNET cable?
[04:15] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180 . That should install the new one, and build the kernel module from that last package
[04:15] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  2 wires are crossed over.
[04:15] <jeancalvin> I need to buy a cable that connects from router to back of my computer
[04:15] <carpediem> keithclark: you can always remove pulseaudio from your system, but then you are no longer running "ubuntu-desktop" which I definitely don't recommend.
[04:15] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: roger roger
[04:15] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: which do i need?
[04:15] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  normal cable woll work
[04:15] <bruenig> wolter: program must be wrong then, edit the source code of it so it doesn't trip that error
[04:15] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: which is normal?
[04:16] <wolter> bruenig, yeah sure, like
[04:16] <bruenig> !info etracer
[04:16] <wolter> ..i am an expirienced coder..
[04:16] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,    normal ethernet cable.. the ones you will find 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the time
[04:16] <bruenig> what is etracer
[04:16] <keithclark> carpediem, I will deal with the problem with the cl you gave me for the time being
[04:16] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis:  so i do NOT need patch?
[04:16] <wolter> bruenig, i got it from the add/remove
[04:16] <wolter> bruenig, extreme tux racer
[04:16] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: now if the kernel gets upgraded am i going to have issues?
[04:16] <jeancalvin> Are you saying, Dr_willis, that I need ETHERNET cable?
[04:16] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  unless ya got some old hardwqare/special needs. Not likely
[04:16] <herb> Dr_willis: I'm not sure the ratio is quite *that* high.
[04:17] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, the new kernel system should autobuild this stuff for you now. But it's good to keep in mind
[04:17] <herb> that's a lotta 9s
[04:17] <jeancalvin> pls confirm, coz i'm buying online.
[04:17] <Dr_willis> jeancalvin,  for a PC to PC network  WithOUT gigiabit cards.. you need a patch cable
[04:17] <bruenig> wolter: yeah well if you are using compiz it must be that you have opengl, so if that program is throwing that error, you need to patch it
[04:17] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: RE: gigabit cards--- do I have those?
[04:17] <bruenig> wolter: there may be a force option to it also, you might see
[04:17] <kansan> when i try:   autossh -i /root/.ssh/chef_tunnel -p 24000 -nNT -R 6400:localhost:4000 chef-client@foo.dyndns.org ... then: telnet localhost 6400; i get Connection Refused
[04:17] <rory096> if i reinstall firefox, will all my addons be deleted?
[04:17] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: in my computer, i have a NIC card
[04:17] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: only one more -- and if it does break stuff and i am stuck in CL, how can i go back to the default intrepid driver?
[04:18] <carpediem> rory096: no, they are stored in your profile in your home directory
[04:18] <rory096> carpediem: thanks. does that also go for files the addons use (like sessions for sessionmanager, etc)?
[04:18] <incadudeF> anyone?
[04:18] <wolter> bruenig, ok
[04:18] <carpediem> rory096: yes
[04:18] <ddelong4> So, anyone know why I can't mount either of my 2 cd/dvd rw drives?
[04:18] <rory096> carpediem: thanks
[04:18] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, does this card work with the normal nv (free) video driver?
[04:18] <jeancalvin> Dr_willis: i'm buying online, so i can't get customer service as well as in a store. thanks.
[04:18] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: nooooooooo
[04:18] <albuntu> ari_stress: ok i solved this problem. now the strange thing is that the browser gives me a php file output instead of executing the php file
[04:19] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, ah, glad I asked :) .
[04:19] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i understand
[04:19] <hvgotcodes> ;)
[04:19] <herb> jeancalvin: post the link to the cable you're trying to buy?
[04:19] <carpediem> rory096: if you look at .mozilla/firefox you'll see all your stuff in some form or another.  You can even back that folder up if you are concerned.
[04:20] <Pyles17> is there a liveCD for powerpc macs? or is the alternate installer a liveCD as well?
[04:20] <jeancalvin> herb: http://tinyurl.com/bffcc3
[04:20] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, I would expect that sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-180=180.11-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 to do the trick. You probably won't have 3d accell without more work though.
[04:20] <rory096> carpediem: perfect. you, sir, are a god
[04:20] <wolter> bruenig, well, i think i will wine the windows version.. should work flawless, right?
[04:21] <carpediem> rory096: back up the whole .mozilla folder if you do
[04:21] <jeancalvin> herb, that links says "patch" but it does say it will conect computer to cable modem/router. Dr_willis says i most likely don't need patch. i'm confused
[04:21] <rory096> carpediem: ok
[04:21] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: but i should be able to recover right?
[04:21] <herb> jeancalvin: that will be fine for what you're trying to do.
[04:21] <jeancalvin> i see
[04:21] <carpediem> rory096: you can even copy that .mozilla folder to other computers, even Windows, and your settings/themes/extensions/bookmarks will go with it.
[04:21] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, what that does is force apt to install that exact version number: refer to the apt-get policy that I had you pastebin, that's where the number comes from.
[04:22] <kansan> how do i make 'while true ; do  ssh HOST ; done'   ... occur on every system startup (ubuntu hardy)
[04:22] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: i get it.  you have been awesome and i really appreciate all the help.
[04:22] <albuntu> i have an apache problem. i get apache to give me the output of a php file instead of executing the file. anyone that can help ?
[04:22] <bruenig> wolter: don't use wine when there is a native version
[04:22] <Zard0z> jeancalvin, you almost never need a patch cable for domestic networking stuff - the devices tend to be able to autodetect and use either - it would be very odd if you needed a patch cable to connect a domestic router to a domestic modem.
[04:22] <wolter> bruenig, well, it doesn't work...
[04:22] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, if there's a kernel mismatch, the driver should still work, just not have 3d acceleration. At that point, you'd still need to do kernel surgery, and I'm not positive without actually doing it myself or seeing a system in that condition what steps would be needed
[04:22] <bruenig> wolter: fix it
[04:23] <herb> Pyles17: there is a livecd for powerpc. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/intrepid/release/
[04:23] <wolter> bruenig, help me to
[04:23] <carpediem> kansan: look at /etc/rcX.d where X is the runlevel you want it to run at
[04:23] <Pyles17> herb, thanks
[04:23] <j-b-r> what is the xf86-video-savage package for? Will it help fix my nVidia kernel modules (as I was told by someone)?
[04:23] <incadudeF> hello everyone im getting this when trying to update: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[04:23] <herb> Pyles17: sorry, not live CD, install CD.
[04:23] <bruenig> wolter: just crack open vim on the source, you should be able to search for that error message and then remove the conditional statement that leads to it
[04:23] <carpediem> kansan: if you put it in there and chmod +x it will run at that runlevel on startup
[04:23] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: when i tried to do a CL install of the nvidia driver from the nvidia package i encountered a api mismatch -- the x server wouldn't start so i  had to remove the new driver, and everything worked
[04:24] <Pyles17> herb: that's what i thought, thanks anyway
[04:24] <wolter> bruenig, its not a warning, its an error.
[04:24] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, from the nividia site?
[04:24] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: would not forcing an install of the default (proprietary) driver for intrepid restore everything to  normal?
[04:24] <rory096> oh wait, nevermind
[04:24] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: yes from teh nvidia site
[04:24] <Pyles17> i don't think they make liveCDs for powerpc. it's not even officially supported
[04:24] <herb> Pyles17: if you want a live CD there is one for hardy which is the latest LTS. http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ports/releases/hardy/release/
[04:24] <rory096> i think i just found out why firefox isn't working: i have 0 bytes of free space on my hard drive
[04:24] <herb> Pyles17: the desktop CD is a livecd.
[04:24] <nickrud> hvgotcodes, all things being equal, yes. But the equal is the question:)
[04:24] <miik> aehhhhhhhhhh
[04:25] <Pyles17> herb: thank you
[04:25] <rory096> in related news, i'm an idiot
[04:25] <bruenig> wolter: like I said, search for the error message in the source and remove the conditional statement that triggers it
[04:25] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: well i have another machine with irc ;)  thanx again for all the help -- normal guys like me wouldn't be able to tinker like this easily without help from people like you
[04:25] <herb> Pyles17: it's not officially supported, but I'm running it on an old G4, though as a server, not a desktop.
[04:25] <Zard0z> @rory096 - LOL
[04:25] <nickrud> rory096, if you were an idiot, you'd still be angry at us cuz we couldn't fix your firefox :)
[04:25] <raz0o0x> wondering is someone could help: I have ubuntu 8.04.. sometime within the past two weeks my system started stopping while doing any of the following: logging out, restarting, shutting down... each time I have to press CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to complete the action
[04:25] <herb> Pyles17: I know the intrepid CDs had some issues.  so installing/testing from hardy is probably the best plan anyway.
[04:26] <Pyles17> herb: cool cool. thanks. issues aren't good when trying to get people to switch
[04:26] <kindofabuzz> raz0o0x, sounds like something isn't terminating, don't know what butthat's what it sounds like
[04:26] <herb> Pyles17: really not
[04:26] <herb> Pyles17: good luck
[04:26] <rory096> nickrud: heh. thanks for your help.
[04:26] <Pyles17> herb: thanks
[04:27] <racecar-56> hi people
[04:27] <herb> Pyles17: welcome
[04:27] <phorensic> hi
[04:27] <raz0o0x> kindofabuzz: how can i find out what might not be terminating?
[04:27] <kindofabuzz> raz0o0x, no clue. sorry
[04:27] <AHaynes> Hi I M new iz u guz
[04:28] <kindofabuzz> and you're new at typing too looks like
[04:28] <Pyles17> AHaynes: what?
[04:28] <pepperjack> AHaynes hi welcome to ubuntu
[04:28] <Matr|X> i want to install winxp with my ybntu
[04:28] <AHaynes> bicth plz look at yo name!!
[04:28] <Pyles17> I second pepperjack
[04:28] <phorensic> Matr|X: dont do it
[04:28] <bobbob1016> AHaynes, This channel is for english support....
[04:28] <adred> hi..why do it get this error each time i update my system: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 5DC4E17435661D98. anyone know what it means?
[04:28] <Pyles17> !language
[04:28] <phorensic> Matr|X: jk... did you already install ubuntu?
[04:28] <Matr|X> yes
[04:29] <phorensic> Matr|X: well its better if you do windows first
[04:29] <nickrud> !u | AHaynes
[04:29] <phorensic> Matr|X: do you have partitions installed?
[04:29] <wolter> bruenig, windows version works like charm
[04:29] <AHaynes> hell naw come too Kalamazoo and sat diz syit HOE
[04:29] <WebcamWonder> adred: You need keys for the external repositories that you have added
[04:29] <Matr|X> i have hard disk 40 i use all hard disk for ubntu
[04:29]  * phorensic hifives nuckrud
[04:29] <wolter> but i will try to find a fix on some forum bruenig
[04:29] <AHaynes> All yall MOMAZ if yall got 1
[04:30] <phorensic> Matr|X: is this a fresh install?
[04:30] <kindofabuzz> i think i'm moving to Mint, it's what ubuntu should be
[04:30] <j-b-r> You guys seriously have a "!u" message?
[04:30] <Matr|X> cd
[04:30] <Matr|X> i install from live cd
[04:30] <AHaynes> so
[04:30] <nickrud> AHaynes, please abide by the channel rules; this is a support channel
[04:30] <Matr|X> hardy ver
[04:30] <j-b-r> Do you have a message command for every possible issue?
[04:30] <bruenig> wolter: you shouldn't use nonfree stuff
[04:30] <adred> WebcamWonder: Would you mind telling me how do i know which repo? and how do i get it?
[04:30] <Pyles17> j-b-r. quite a few
[04:30] <wolter> bruenig, its free... what are you talking about?
[04:30] <nickrud> j-b-r, we're lazy
[04:30] <bobbob1016> What's the command to mute (as in not see their messages) someone in xchat?
[04:31] <kindofabuzz> kalamazoo, ms? that explains why you can't type
[04:31] <phorensic> Matr|X: is this a new install though?
[04:31] <Matr|X> i have problem too with my x server when i restart my computer its give me black screen befor the logins winds
[04:31] <adred> WebcamWonder: the key
[04:31] <WebcamWonder> adred: Could you pastebin your sources?
[04:31] <Cpudan80>  /ignore bobbob1016
[04:31] <Cpudan80> That would ignore your own message ;-)
[04:31] <adred> WebcamWonder: right away sir..
[04:31] <prmdk_> any girl here?
[04:31] <wolter> hi, can anybody run extreme tux racer game?
[04:31] <wolter> prmdk_, why would you want to know?
[04:31]  * nickrud doesn't need that to ignore Cpudan80 , it comes naturally :)
[04:31] <Matr|X> i dont know bro im new i download cd from the home page and i install
[04:32] <prmdk_> i just want to have a chat with a girl
[04:32] <Cpudan80> lol nickrud
[04:32] <Cpudan80> prmdk_: This is a support channel, try #defocus
[04:32] <ddelong4> Can someone give me a hand? I need to mount my cd/dvd rw drives and get this error message "Cannot invoke CheckForMedia on HAL: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken."
[04:32] <prmdk_> thanks
[04:32] <j-b-r> prmdk: So you game to a linux channeL?
[04:32] <Pyles17> j-b-r: well said
[04:32] <wolter> j-b-r, not a very good place to talk with girls, is it?
[04:33] <j-b-r> I know, right?
[04:33] <j-b-r> I mean, it would be awesome if there were more girls that liked this stuff...
[04:33] <bkaps> can someone help me with configuring sound on an old compag presario?
[04:33] <phorensic> Matr|X: I see.. thats fine.. the new version is intrepid ibex. If you just installed, in my opinion the easiest way to have both is to run your windows installer, set your partitions beforehand(you will have to delete your current install of ubuntu), install windows onto one of the 3 partitions and then run the ubuntu installer to install your system on the other 2 partitions
[04:33] <adred> WebcamWonder: here... http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m14aca9c2
[04:34] <phorensic> bkaps: the only type of configuring i would do with a presario is to configure it straight off a 100 foot cliff
[04:34] <WebcamWonder> adred: Gimme a minute
[04:34] <Pyles17> second to that motion
[04:34] <adred> WebcamWonder: it's okay,,take you time..
[04:35] <linux_guy> is it sometimes NOT appropriate to convert rpm to deb with progs like alien?
[04:35] <bkaps> well the laptop is for a friend.  He doesnt have anything else
[04:35] <Flannel> linux_guy: It certainly doesn't always work out nicely, yes.
[04:35] <slashzul> I updated from gcc-4.2.3 to gcc-4.2.4, vmware broke , how can revert to old gcc version
[04:36] <phorensic> Matr|X: there are other ways, but to have the easiest setup that is what I would do
[04:36] <Fezzler> I need to create a configuration file for a program called pilot-mailsync  I need to name the file ".pilotmailrc"  Can I use any text editor to make it?
[04:36] <Pyles17> bkaps: understandable. let me do some google-fu
[04:36] <nickrud> linux_guy, it's almost never appropriate
[04:36] <linux_guy> Flannel, I'd like to get a prog called KGuitar for guitar tablature.  its an rpm file though.  HOW can I tell if I should convert it or not?
[04:36] <bkaps> ok thanks that would really be helpful
[04:37] <phorensic> Fezzler: yes
[04:37] <nickrud> linux_guy, why not just do sudo apt-get install kguitar ? It's in the repos
[04:37] <linux_guy> can ubuntu ONLY use deb? for packages?
[04:37] <Fezzler> phorensic: And I do include the "." in the file name?
[04:37] <nickrud> linux_guy, for packages, yes.
[04:37] <slashzul> I updated from gcc-4.2.3 to gcc-4.2.4, how can revert to old gcc version
[04:37] <phorensic> linux_guy: Yes, however some rpms can be converted with alien
[04:38] <linux_guy> so there is no rpm manager for ubuntu?
[04:38] <WebcamWonder> adred: Try commenting the OOO repository, and then run a sudo aptitude update, see if it complains
[04:38] <phorensic> linux_guy: no rpm is a different package management system
[04:38] <linux_guy> because ubuntu is debian based, not some stinky hat right?
[04:38] <nickrud> linux_guy, there are other ways to install stuff: prebuilt binaries (usually a .bin) and compiling among others
[04:38] <phorensic> Fezzler: yes
[04:38] <root_____> wow lots of people in here
[04:38] <grenade> anybody have any idea how to get directx running in wine in ubuntu?
[04:38] <Shii> is anyone here familiar with 64bit flash?
[04:38] <phorensic> sup root_____
[04:38] <Fezzler> phorensic: txs
[04:38] <bkaps> anybody have an opinion on what the best small distro would be for old hardware
[04:38] <adred> WebcamWonder: okay
[04:39] <Shii> flash is making my firefox segfault, it makes me very sad
[04:39] <WebcamWonder> Shii: technically, nspluginwrapper segfaults :)
[04:39] <nickrud> bkaps, puppy or dsl are popular; you should investigate distrowatch.org for various options
[04:39] <Shii> WebcamWonder: nah i am using the Adobe alpha
[04:39] <Shii> it was working perfectly before
[04:39] <linux_guy> i wonder why kguitars page only shows rpms
[04:39] <Shii> i updated some packages, now, segfault
[04:39] <WebcamWonder> Shii: Weird, I haven't had any problem what that
[04:39] <WebcamWonder> Shii: with*
[04:39] <bkaps> i have tried puppy nickrud but i cant get the integrated speakers in the laptop to work
[04:39] <root_____> Anyone in here switch from gentoo to ubuntu
[04:40] <Zopiac> I had only Ubuntu installed onto the computer. i then repartitioned the hard drive to add an NTFS Windows part., and installed XP. however, the closest thing to a
[04:40] <Shii> ugh
[04:40] <nickrud> linux_guy, try  apt-cache search kguitar , it will tell you it's already a deb available from the repos
[04:40] <Shii> root_____: i did, but ages ago
[04:40] <slashzul> anyone know how to rebuild my kernel with new gcc compiler?
[04:40] <slashzul> I updated from gcc-4.2.3 to gcc-4.2.4, how can revert to old gcc version
[04:40] <Zopiac> oops; closest thing to a GRUB only allows me to select between WINXP and WINXP :P
[04:40] <root_____> im having trouble deciding which way to go for my home system
[04:40] <root_____> i like both
[04:40] <linux_guy> so when i want software, i should look in repo first, THEN, home page, then google etc?
[04:40] <mg> what are some good CLI apps?
[04:40] <nickrud> bkaps, I've not used either, just know they're popular
[04:40] <WebcamWonder> linux_guy: Yes. Add getdeb in between there as well
[04:41] <phorensic> bkaps: best is a matter of opinion.. obviously you should look at systems that dont use a ton of addons and intense code.. ie a light window manager/desktop manager etc
[04:41] <bkaps> nickrud, oh ok sorrycompaq presario 1275
[04:41] <nickrud> linux_guy, yeah. If you see something on the net that looks interesting, check the repos. 98% of the time it'll be there
[04:41] <n8tuserf> mg vim
[04:41] <linux_guy> and i check the repository how, exactly?  i usually look in add/remove
[04:41] <mg> n8tuserf: love VIM!
[04:41] <_VIM_> someone say VIM? :)
[04:41] <mg> need more CLI apps
[04:41] <bkaps> phorensic, yeah that makes since
[04:41] <WebcamWonder> linux_guy: Synaptic
[04:41] <linux_guy> sweet
[04:41] <nickrud> linux_guy, ah. that's a limited list. system->admin->synaptic package manager, that's your friend
[04:42] <linux_guy> you guys are the best
[04:42] <WebcamWonder> linux_guy: Or if you are a CLI kinda guy, aptitude is your friend :)
[04:42] <tuxxy__> anyone know what this bootup error means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/111949/
[04:42] <phorensic> bkaps: sometimes going onto distrowatch.com (maybe .org??) is a good reference
[04:42]  * linux_guy is down for a challenge sometimes
[04:42] <nickrud> WebcamWonder, you an aptitude full screen dude?
[04:43] <bkaps> phorensic, yeah i looked at dsl on distrowatch but there were problems with xvesa on my computer
[04:43] <tuxxy__> anyone know what this bootup error means? http://paste.ubuntu.com/111949/
[04:43] <WebcamWonder> nickrud: I prefer doing things with aptitude, yes. Much more flexible and faster
[04:43] <nickrud> linux_guy, stick with synaptic for a bit, till you get a better feel for packaging. Then aptitude can be really powerful.
[04:43] <Royall> What is a good RSS program that notifies by either a balloon or a libnotify box of new items in the feed?
[04:43] <bkaps> phorensic, its old hardware but forced to run a slower xorg
[04:43] <n838901> Royall: how did the firmware update go?
[04:43] <linux_guy> nice, NOW, I use gnome, but KDE software 'works' .... Is that supposed to be like that?
[04:43] <Joeseph> In vlc, I can open a stream over the internet... but whenever the web interface changes files, it plays locally instead of over the network.....  any idea how to fix this?
[04:44] <nickrud> linux_guy, yep
[04:44] <k0tar3l> linux_guy L yes
[04:44] <Royall> n838901: For the drive? I think I told you, I had the module bay disabled in the BIOS, it wasn't the firmware
[04:44] <linux_guy> then WHY say its for kDE
[04:44] <phorensic> bkaps: if u want a challenge there is LFS
[04:44] <linux_guy> why not just say its for *nix
[04:44] <throwt> becaused it's made using kde libraries... hence it's made for kde
[04:44] <bkaps> pyles17, did you ever find any thing on google
[04:44] <k0tar3l> linux_guy : you have the kde libs installed
[04:44] <n838901> Royall: oh yeah haha. lot has happened since then
[04:44] <throwt> but there's a level of interopability
[04:44] <tuxxy__> anyone know what this bootup error means please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/111949/
[04:44] <bkaps> phorensic, LFS?
[04:44] <nickrud> linux_guy, it's just a different set of software that writes to the screen; but it's still the same screen
[04:44] <phorensic> bkaps: linux from scratch
[04:45]  * linux_guy is glad you guys are so damn smart
[04:45] <wolter> where can i find like a place with linux game developers, i mean, channel..
[04:45] <wolter> ?
[04:45] <bkaps> phorensic, i dont have the techinical know how
[04:45] <j-b-r> I tired LFS once
[04:45] <linux_guy> gotta run, battery's dying
[04:45] <j-b-r> The computer was sooo slow
[04:45] <linux_guy> thanks again
[04:45] <j-b-r> It literally took 6 days to compile GCC
[04:45] <Shii> ugh
[04:45] <Shii> youtube works but google video segfaults
[04:45] <phorensic> bkaps: i see .. they have a guide you pretty much follow along
[04:45] <nickrud> LFS teaches a lot. I spend nearly a year messing with that before I was satisfied
[04:45] <j-b-r> After that I was like, "forget this"
[04:45] <Shii> what's the difference between youtube and google video?
[04:45] <racecar-56> wow gcc took 6 days?
[04:45] <bkaps> phorensic, where?
[04:46] <tuxxy__> anyone know what this bootup error means please? http://paste.ubuntu.com/111949/
[04:46] <phorensic> j-b-r: ouch
[04:46] <racecar-56> O_O
[04:46] <Shii> why are random other things segfaulting?
[04:46] <racecar-56> for me it took 6 hours
[04:46] <j-b-r> It was a 486, I think
[04:46] <bkaps> phorensic, just google LFS i guess?
[04:46] <racecar-56> i have a 686
[04:46] <WebcamWonder> Shii: memtest perhaps?
[04:46] <racecar-56> :>
[04:46] <nickrud> j-b-r, that's hard to believe; I never --- a, mine was a celeron
[04:46] <mg> Is there such a think as a console jukebox app?
[04:46] <phorensic> bkaps: linuxfromscratch.org
[04:46] <racecar-56> lol
[04:46] <bkaps> phorensic, that would make since
[04:46] <Shii> WebcamWonder: how do i memtest?
[04:46] <j-b-r> I dunno, I think it probably just died after the first day and I never noticed
[04:47] <WebcamWonder> Shii: LiveCD has an option for it
[04:47] <nickrud> bkaps, that's excellent for learning, but not for your main system unless you're a masochist :)
[04:47] <Shii> man i don't want to livecd, i just want to watch this video :(
[04:47] <bkaps> nickrud, i could always use the know how
[04:47] <phorensic> bkaps: Yah i think i remember gcc being 24x the base standard unit
[04:47] <WebcamWonder> Shii: Just to make things clear, memtest checks your RAM for instability, etc.
[04:48] <Shii> yeah i know... i'm kind of worried about that
[04:48] <Shii> i built this box myself and the hardware has always been awful
[04:48] <Shii> i'm attempting "memtest 12MB" to start with
[04:48] <bkaps> phorensic, i think im going to try this LFS thing
[04:48] <WebcamWonder> Shii: Have you considered switching to nspluginwrapper?
[04:48] <nickrud> bkaps, find something that you can use, and then build lfs from that. You need a working linux install to work with lfs in the beginning, anyway
[04:48] <Shii> WebcamWonder: i'd love to but the instructions are kind of confusing
[04:48] <phorensic> bkaps: if you dont have a lot of time id suggest something else
[04:49] <WebcamWonder> Shii: Google for scripts. They take care of everything
[04:49] <bkaps> nickrud, would old hardware work for that
[04:49] <nickrud> bkaps, think of it as your custom car you're building in your garage: You still need a car to get to and from work.
[04:49] <phorensic> bkaps: you could try xubuntu
[04:49] <Matr|X> i have ubntu on hard disk 40 i use full hard disk to install ubntu , if i want to install windows , qtparted and rsize the 40 giga and make 10 giga for windows and then install windows is this good /
[04:49] <bkaps> phorensic, i just wont sleep and i had lots of problems with xubuntu
[04:49] <phorensic> Matr|X: depends what you have for windows, remember windows is a memory hog you may want more
[04:50] <Matr|X> no 10 giga is enogh
[04:50] <Matr|X> but
[04:50] <phorensic> Matr|X: you probably want 1-2GB for swap space too
[04:50] <Matr|X> yea
[04:50] <Matr|X> its done
[04:50] <bkaps> nickrud, so if i have a main laptop and then this old computer than that should work right
[04:50] <phorensic> bkaps: oh really.. bummer,
[04:50] <pkundu> in ubuntu when i click the windows partition it gets mounted autometically , but how can i mount it in the startup
[04:50] <racecar-56> gotta restart
[04:50] <racecar-56> brb
[04:50] <nickrud> bkaps, yes. Actually,
[04:50] <Matr|X> so if i resize my hard agine on ubntu this will do eny thing with my ubntu ? crash or some thing
[04:50] <nickrud> bkaps, use the old one as a server.
[04:50] <Matr|X> i should install ubntu agine ?
[04:51] <bkaps> phorensic, i acctually got fluxbuntu to work for a while but got fed up with fluxbox
[04:51] <pkundu> after mount , the mount command show "/dev/sda5 on /media/Data type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096)"
[04:51] <phorensic> Matr|X: remember you are going to have to reinstall or update grub to be able to boot to either OS, windows will over write the mbr and hide ubuntu
[04:51] <pkundu> what shld be the fstab entry if required
[04:51] <Matr|X> ah
[04:51] <bkaps> nickrud, its really old im not sure if that will make a difference
[04:51] <Matr|X> so how to update grup ?
[04:51] <phorensic> bkaps: Ive pretty much stuck with gnome since Ive used ubuntu, I want to try enlightenment one of these days
[04:51] <ikonone> I have a program that I just installed into wine.  every file is write protected and I need to install an update
[04:51] <adred> WebcamWonder: it's okay now.. looks like both the AWN and OOo 3 repos can't go along. If I uncomment either of them, I get the error. While if I comment both of them, I don't get the error. But I suspect the OOo 3 repo is causing the problem since AWN repo was doing fine before I adde the OOo 3 repo. Anyway thanks so much!
[04:52] <phorensic> !grub | Matr|X
[04:52] <ikonone> is there a way to change permissions on all of the files at once?
[04:52] <Shii> WebcamWonder: i ran the nspluginwrapper GetFlash script and now it shows no plugins at all!
[04:52] <bkaps> phorensic, enlightenment looks nice have you tried beryl
[04:52] <phorensic> bkaps: beryl is now compiz and comes with ubutnu, so yes I have.. i also used beryl ack in edgy when it still had issues
[04:52] <WebcamWonder> adred: Both of the repositories could be signed actually. I am not sure, since google didn't turn up a lot regarding those keys
[04:52] <ryanprior> bkaps: Beryl is dead, has been for a long time. It's merged with Compiz now.
[04:52] <WebcamWonder> Shii: That was fast, what script did you run?
[04:53] <Shii> r124
[04:53] <phorensic> too slow ryanprior i win
[04:53] <bkaps> phorensic, well i haven't been using it and was just curious
[04:53] <wolter> ah... having problems with supertuxkart as well
[04:53] <bkaps> phorensic, what is compiz?
[04:53] <WebcamWonder> Shii: What?
[04:53] <ryanprior> !compiz | bkaps
[04:53] <Matr|X> plz tell me the size shouldi do for ubntu system
[04:53] <Shii> nspluginwrapper 1.8.6
[04:53] <phorensic> bkaps: I currently use it on both of my computers.. compiz is beryl under a new name.. to simplify  things
[04:54] <ikonone> HELP: how do I change the the file permissions of an entire directory with directories under it?
[04:54] <bruenig> ikonone: -R
[04:54] <SquareHimself> ikonone: man chmod
[04:54] <phorensic> bkaps: I think technically compiz was around first, then forked and then beryl wasborn, and they re-merged??
[04:54] <ryanprior> Matr|X: What do you mean the size you should do?
[04:54] <ikonone> oh...
[04:54] <ikonone> tyh
[04:54] <ikonone> ty
[04:54] <bruenig> SquareHimself: stop trolling
[04:54] <bkaps> phorensic, i see
[04:54] <Matr|X> i mean i will partion my hard disk again
[04:54] <SquareHimself> bruenig: I think rtfm is good advice, thank you very much.
[04:54] <phorensic> bkaps: Which ubuntu are you running right now?
[04:55] <bruenig> !rtfm | SquareHimself
[04:55] <bruenig> PERIOD!
[04:55] <linux_guy> real quick, what is 'sudo -s'
[04:55] <RealKillaz> Hi I really need some help to prevent my system from being instable. I just upgraded to 8.10, but during the upgrade it asked for a password, which I didnt enter correct.. now I have received a message saying that there was an error during the upgrade and that I need to run a command to continue the upgrade. The problem is stupid me didnt write the command down. What's the command to continue/restart the the upgrade?
[04:55] <ryanprior> phorensic, bkaps: Beryl was created when the community felt that the Red Hat-controlled Compiz project wasn't responding to outside developers, and once the Red Hat guys got on the ball, the Beryl developers helped to merge their changes back into Compiz.
[04:55] <adred> WebcamWonder: I see. As far as I can remember, both AWN and OOo3 how-to did not have any instruction about getting keys whatsoever. Now I know what causing the problem. Maybe I will contact the maintainer for a heads up.. thank you!
[04:55] <SquareHimself> bruenig: i'm new here.
[04:55] <Bryan_Sierra> linux_guy, signs you in using root.
[04:55] <SquareHimself> bruenig: I'll keep it in mind ;)
[04:55] <Matr|X> so the ext3 for ubntu partation 2 giga , 4 giga or wht i dont know
[04:55] <bkaps> phorensic, hardy
[04:55] <WebcamWonder> adred: No problems
[04:55] <bruenig> SquareHimself: it's ok, just be aware, we hope to keep our users ignorant
[04:55] <phorensic> Matr|X: do you want to just resize or are you going to reinstall both over?
[04:55] <linux_guy> thought so, so that's kinda dangerous
[04:55] <ryanprior> Matr|X: You probably want between 10G and 20G for /, then the rest for /home.
[04:55] <Matr|X> yes
[04:55] <tritium> linux_guy: it's the same as "sudo so".  What you really want is "sudo -i".  <-- Bryan_Sierra
[04:55] <ikonone> beautiful it worked
[04:55] <ikonone> ty
[04:55] <bkaps> ryanprior, that makes since
[04:55] <Matr|X> now great
[04:56] <linux_guy> sudo -i
[04:56] <Matr|X> 21 giga like the cd  asking me
[04:56] <nickrud> bruenig, now now :) SquareHimself man something is good, with a pointer to what to look for ;)
[04:56] <linux_guy> ?
[04:56] <Shii> ugh.... firefox-plugin-gnash is really bad
[04:56] <tritium> linux_guy: yes
[04:56] <Matr|X> 11 giga i think
[04:56] <tritium> bkaps: makes sense, even
[04:56] <phorensic> bkaps: yes hardy should have compiz installed, you just have to enable the features.. have you tried installing ccsm?
[04:56] <linux_guy> what's -i?
[04:56] <Matr|X> 11 giga ext3 + 2 giga swap ,, am i right ?
[04:56] <tritium> linux_guy: a switch, just like -s.
[04:56] <bkaps> phorensic, on synaptic
[04:56] <Bryan_Sierra> tritium, thats being really technical. They're more or less the same.
[04:56] <phorensic> bkaps: sure!
[04:56] <duryodhan> Hi .. I am running a linux system and I want to install ubuntu 8.10 - I don't have the alternate CD -- Is there any way I can install ubuntu without having to burn the CD / usb disk ?
[04:56] <tritium> Bryan_Sierra: slight differences.
[04:56] <duryodhan> I have lilo etc. ready
[04:57] <WebcamWonder> !info ccsm | bkaps
[04:57] <vegombrei> ive loaded all my pictures on f-spot photo manager .. they are all jpeg .. but when i double click to open it doesnt open the file to view .. is there some sort of plug in i need ??
[04:57] <phorensic> Matr|X: I would probably to 15 for windows 2 for swap and the rest for ubuntu, and install windows first
[04:57] <linux_guy> probably stuff i shouldn't mess with.... just yet
[04:57] <phorensic> bkaps: it will be under compiz config settings manager
[04:57] <ryanprior> duryodhan: You can use Lubi, or you can netboot, or you can use a VM, or you can ask Launchpad for a CD through the mail.
[04:57] <Matr|X> wht is windows file system i will make ,, ntfs , fat32 , or wht
[04:57] <bkaps> phorensic, ok i will search for that
[04:57] <linux_guy> 'sudo rm all the work i've done'
[04:57] <phorensic> ryanprior: ahhh i see thank you for the info
[04:58] <Matr|X> 15 for windows , 2 for swab rest for ubntu is cool for me :D
[04:58] <bkaps> phorensic, yeah i guess it is installed already
[04:58] <bkaps> phorensic, how to configure
[04:58] <phorensic> bkaps: oh if you type in ccsm at a command prompt or alt-f2 it will load the compiz manager and you can configure there
[04:58] <Matr|X> so wht is the best file system for c/windows partion is fat32 or ntfs  caz i want ubntu read the c:/windows partion
[04:59] <phorensic> bkaps: some of the settings require that you have 3d rendering enabled
[04:59] <eross> does a 64-bit game server offer any advantage over 32-bit server on either 32bit or 64bit machine?
[04:59] <phorensic> Matr|X: ntfs
[04:59] <ryanprior> Matr|X: NTFS is far better than fat32, but you can install EXT3 support for Windows.
[04:59] <miik> MatBoy, ntfs is less open than fat32 but its the technically superior file system. ntfs works good in linux, so its best for you to use ntfs.
[04:59] <phorensic> Matr|X: ubuntu is cool and can read all those file systems, windows is not coo and cant read linux filesystems without help
[05:00] <duryodhan> hi.. got dced -- anyone have any solutions ?
[05:00] <RealKillaz> No one knows?
[05:00] <ryanprior> eross: If the server has >3GB of RAM, it won't be able to use (address) it all on a 32-bit system. Also, 64-bit systems are inherently faster on a 64-bit capable processor.
[05:00] <Matr|X> but i make install the last time windows ntfs file system ubntu not read drive c :/windows
[05:00] <bamhm182> hey
[05:01] <RealKillaz> how do I restart an interrupted upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> Matr|X,  you just need to have the proper entry in /etc/fstab to mount the windows drives.. People often overlook that step in the installer.
[05:01]  * ame_ looks around
[05:01] <bamhm182> I just thought of something, I've got a Zune, I'm 150% sure that Microsoft hasn't and probably won't port the Zune software to Ubuntu, does anyone know of another method to connect my Zune to my Ubuntu PC?
[05:01] <eross> ok, it has 4Gb of ram.. so I could host two game servers and still be able to play my own fps noob shooters, or use applications on it with little problem?
[05:01] <ryanprior> RealKillaz: Uh oh. What happens when you start update-manager?
[05:01] <Dr_willis> bamhm182,  if you are lucky  - it can be seen as a normal usb thumbdrive.
[05:02] <Dr_willis> !zune
[05:02] <bamhm182> I seriously doubt that'd work Dr_willis, but it's worth a shot
[05:02] <phpstar> hello
[05:02] <Dr_willis> bamhm182,  No idea. I dont plan on ever owning a zune :) or ipod
[05:02] <Dr_willis> bamhm182,  im sure goggle knows! :) google knows all
[05:02] <miik> bamhm182, Zune might work in Songbird, not sure
[05:02] <RealKillaz> It said system is up to date and the 8.10 option is gone.
[05:02] <miik> Dr_willis, word :D
[05:03] <phpstar> is it possible to autostart virtualbox image as soon as i logon in ubuntu ??
[05:03] <bamhm182> I tried google
[05:03] <RealKillaz> ryanprior: It said system is up to date and the 8.10 option is gone.
[05:03] <bamhm182> I will try songbird
[05:03] <ryanprior> RealKillaz: I read that. In that case, I don't know what you should do. Keep asking, though.
[05:03] <vegombrei> ive loaded all my pictures on f-spot photo manager .. they are all jpeg .. but when i double click to open it doesnt open the file to view .. is there some sort of plug in i need ??
[05:03] <bamhm182> does anyone know if the iPod has Drag 'n Drop capabilities?
[05:03] <johnnyredl> hi. i need a PHP/MySQL developer. PM me.
[05:04] <miik> bamhm182, Zune uses MTP protocol, Songbird has support for it http://getsongbird.com/
[05:04] <johnnyredl> bamhm182: it does. enable disk usage.
[05:04] <johnnyredl> bamhm182: "manually manage my music"
[05:04] <bamhm182> very nice, thanks miik
[05:04] <miik> "Songbird's device support is limited. The Device Support wiki has additional details about what's supported. Apple iPhones, iPod Touch and Microsoft Zune devices are not yet supported."
[05:04] <miik> hmm wait mayeb it doesnt
[05:04] <johnnyredl> hahahha
[05:04] <bamhm182> ah, damn
[05:04] <bamhm182> what were you saying johnnyredl?
[05:04] <miik> "Microsoft
[05:04] <miik> 	Zune
[05:04] <miik> 	Media Player 	0.7.0 Final 	1.0.8 	Mount, Library, Play, Eject 	Community 	No known major issues"
[05:04] <miik> wait, maybe it actually does
[05:04] <FloodBot1> miik: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:04] <RealKillaz> damn.. and the upgrade was almost ready.
[05:05] <Delvien> Anyone know off the top of their head how we can disable the loud Beep when you backspace too far ( I already have it disabled in System>prefs>sounds) still beeps
[05:05] <miik> bamhm182, well try songbird, it *might* work
[05:05] <SquareHimself> Delvien: Unload the module.
[05:05] <bamhm182> alright, I'll give it a shot
[05:05] <SquareHimself> Delvien: Or unplug the internal speaker from the mobo.
[05:06] <rikkimaru> I installed openssh-server, but when I attempt to ssh to my IP the password doesn't work.  Do I have something configured incorrectly?
[05:06] <ryanprior> Delvien: echo 1 > /proc/sys/stfuplz
[05:06] <miik> bamhm182, i also found 'qlix' in the repository, that can do Zune
[05:06] <nathanhelp> what version of Grub is included in Ubuntu 8.10?
[05:06] <miik> grub1
[05:06] <Dr_willis> !info grub
[05:06] <Dr_willis> Version 0.97-29 Look like
[05:06] <ryanprior> nathanhelp: see also: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=grub
[05:06] <jra> heavily patched grub 0.9x, as usual
[05:07] <nathanhelp> legacy in other words?
[05:07] <bamhm182> where's the repository? I used to know, but I forgot
[05:07] <Shii> WebcamWonder: "http://fpdownload.macromedia.com/get/flashplayer/current/install_flash_player_9_linux.tar.gz" is 404
[05:07] <Dr_willis> makes me wonder what they needed to patch
[05:07] <Shii> i'm betting that's why nspluginwrapper doesn't work
[05:07] <SquareHimself> jra: Yeah, grub works fine for me without Ubuntu patches.
[05:07] <WebcamWonder> Shii: Get flash player 10 please. 9 is horrible at its best
[05:07] <jra> SquareHimself: one does wonder why...
[05:07] <Shii> i did... that's the one that segfaults on google video
[05:08] <SquareHimself> jra: Indeed.
[05:08] <Shii> you told me to try nspluginwrapper to resolve the segfault :v
[05:08] <bamhm182> I downloaded the Ubuntu 8.10 iso, shouldn't it be on my desktop?
[05:08] <WebcamWonder> Shii: Flash player 10 for 32 bit which you can run from nspluginwrapper :)
[05:08] <Shii> ohhh, i see
[05:08] <bamhm182> or does Ubuntu move it somewhere when it's done downloading?
[05:08] <johnnyredl> i need a PHP/MySQL developer available for new work. pm me.
[05:09] <Jim_Raynor> hi
[05:09] <Jim_Raynor> anyone has experience with kmobiletools? I'm trying to download the address book from my mobile phone (Moto L6) but no luck
[05:09] <WebcamWonder> !offtopic | johnnyredl
[05:09] <johnnyredl> sowwy.
[05:09] <Shii> sudo nspluginwrapper -i ./libflashplayer.so
[05:09] <Shii> *** NSPlugin Viewer  *** ERROR: libnss3.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[05:09] <Shii> well that's no good
[05:10] <nathanhelp> How do I see/access my HD GRUB, from a Live CD boot?
[05:10] <bamhm182> where's the trash?
[05:10] <WebcamWonder> !trash | bamhm182
[05:10] <nathanhelp> I'm at the Gnoem desktop
[05:10] <bamhm182> nevermind, found it
[05:10] <nathanhelp> *Gnome
[05:10] <bamhm182> thanks
[05:10] <Delvien> ryanprior Was that necessary?
[05:11] <Delvien> SquareHimself: It's coming from the speakers, not the speaker on the mobo
[05:11] <bamhm182> ugh... This computer hates me
[05:11] <bamhm182> now to go download Ubuntu 8.10 for the 3rd time :D
[05:11] <miik> Delvien, try disable all system sounds, thats what i do
[05:11] <Delvien> miik that isnt really a solution
[05:11] <WebcamWonder> bamhm182: Torrent :) :P
[05:11] <supersix4our> anyone know how well netbeans runson ubuntu vs. gentoo?
[05:11] <phorensic> bamhm182: hmm maybe saving the iso or burning it to a disk is a good choice?
[05:11] <ryanprior> Delvien: There actually is a file somewhere that you can touch or echo 1 to or something that disables the system beep on a kernel level. I forgot what it was though, and hated myself a little, so I lashed out at you. =P
[05:12] <WebcamWonder> ryanprior: rmmod pc-speaker (I think, not sure)
[05:12] <jra> pcsp
[05:12] <Jim_Raynor> is there another program to get access to the phonebook?
[05:13] <nickrud> WebcamWonder, pcspkr
[05:13] <Jim_Raynor> tried it with moto4lin, but i just got access to the filesystem
[05:13] <ryanprior> supersix4our: Most Java benchmarks I've seen run about as well on Ubuntu as they do on Gentoo, so I doubt you'd see a big performance delta.
[05:13] <WebcamWonder> nickrud: Ahh. Thanks. One of the first things I do :)
[05:13] <bamhm182> phorensic, I downloaded it, forgot about it, than just went to go burn it and it was gone
[05:13] <bamhm182> I downloaded it about 3 hours ago
[05:13] <Delvien> Ah, it was terminal, there was an option in there to turn it off.
[05:14] <phorensic> bamhm182: thats not cool.. you did that twice?
[05:14] <dementia_> pike_: dang pike you're still on
[05:15] <bamhm182> nah
[05:15] <bamhm182> the first time I accidentally hit ctrl+alt+backspace when it was most the way through it
[05:15] <supersix4our> ryanprior: sounds good. Any experience runnign eclipse?
[05:16] <ryanprior> supersix4our: I run Eclipse on Ubuntu regularly. Beware: the version in the repository is hella outdated, so grab the package from Eclipse's website.
[05:16] <slashzul> how can I force a  reinstall of linux-image-XX if I keep getting already newest version ?
[05:16] <vegombrei> ive loaded all my pictures on f-spot photo manager .. they are all jpeg .. but when i double click to open it doesnt open the file to view .. is there some sort of plug in i need ??
[05:16] <Jim_Raynor> bamhm182: that's why you use torrent files for ISO images
[05:16] <supersix4our> ryanprior: Thanks!
[05:16] <WebcamWonder> vegombrei: right click on the picture and select to open in whatever program you wish
[05:16] <rikkimaru> I installed openssh-server, but when I attempt to ssh to my IP the password doesn't work.  Do I have something configured incorrectly?
[05:16] <slashzul> is there a way to force to reinstall a kernel image?
[05:16] <mattgyver83wasta> !vmware
[05:17] <bamhm182> I hate torrents, they're so insanely slow most the time
[05:17] <nathanhelp> !mount
[05:17] <nathanhelp> !mnt
[05:17] <bamhm182> you can find the occasional odd torrent that's quick, but overall they're slow
[05:17] <phorensic> bamhm182: nah you gotta port forward properly and they are coo
[05:17] <albuntu> i am trying to load php5 module for apache with a2enmod php5 but it isnt available. can anyone help ?
[05:17] <nathanhelp> !hardrive
[05:17] <Jim_Raynor> yep... proper port handling and welcome speed
[05:18] <Jim_Raynor> also, a nice tracker... but the Ubuntu ones should be seeded everywhere
[05:19] <munk> anyone know how to get the version number of virtualbox? I can find the GUI version no prob but I need the core version
[05:19] <Jim_Raynor> anyway.... anyone syncs phone's addressbook with Ubuntu?
[05:19] <phorensic> Jim_Raynor: nah just google contacts
[05:19] <Jim_Raynor> trying it with kmobiletools and failing... over and over...
[05:19] <phorensic> Jim_Raynor: my phone sux
[05:19] <slashzul> vmware 2.0 is breaking under ubuntu 8.04 http://tinyurl.com/vmware-problem
[05:19] <Jim_Raynor> mine too... taht's why i need to get out those contacts
[05:20] <Jim_Raynor> before it dies
[05:20] <phorensic> i c
[05:21] <slashzul> vmware 2.0 is breaking under ubuntu 8.04 http://tinyurl.com/vmware-problem due to gcc mismatched kernel crap
[05:21] <phorensic> nathanhelp: you heed help bro?
[05:21]  * Until_It_Sleeps is happy! He made Ubuntu look like Windows XP MCE 2005! Now if only he could get his sound card to work...
[05:21] <SquareHimself> Until_It_Sleeps: You should be ashamed.
[05:22] <Until_It_Sleeps> I think when I took apart my computer to repair the power jack I forgot to reconnect the sound card...
[05:22] <Until_It_Sleeps> SquareHimself: :P
[05:22] <SquareHimself> Until_It_Sleeps: You don't deserve sound.
[05:22] <SquareHimself> That's why it won't work!
[05:22] <Jim_Raynor> Until_It_Sleeps: crappy song, kickass video
[05:22] <Until_It_Sleeps> xD
[05:23] <Until_It_Sleeps> Yeah, because I don't deserve sound, it won't work under all three of my operating systems 9_9
[05:23] <llanto_subterran> Help? I'm trying to compile some of the WMdockApps but i'm missing some libraries does anyone know which ones they might be ?
[05:23] <nathanhelp> phorensic: I bit
[05:23] <leviatan> help ubuntu.es
[05:23] <leviatan> donde lo veo
[05:24] <leviatan> como me cambio
[05:24] <SquareHimself> Until_It_Sleeps: Besides... when you try to make things like Windows (like super patching and stuff)... you MUST have things break... all the time.
[05:24] <Until_It_Sleeps> xD
[05:24] <leviatan> que
[05:24] <WebcamWonder> !es | leviatan
[05:24] <Until_It_Sleeps> But I want the look of Windows, without the possible breakage. And now I have it :P :D
[05:25] <SquareHimself> Until_It_Sleeps: Umm.... wrong. You're using Ubuntu
[05:25] <SquareHimself> :D
[05:25] <leviatan> como entro en el de spanish
[05:25] <leviatan> u buntu
[05:25] <MonicaSystem> yess
[05:25]  * MonicaSystem use ubuntu 8.10
[05:25] <Until_It_Sleeps> Exactly :P
[05:25] <phorensic> Until_It_Sleeps: why would you want the look of windows? ick
[05:25] <MonicaSystem> the code name Intrepid^Ibex
[05:25] <slashzul> leviatan: que necessitas?
[05:25] <Jim_Raynor> click en el link, leviatan
[05:26] <Until_It_Sleeps> Because Windows MCE 2005 looks cool.
[05:26] <leviatan> ayuda con ubuntu
[05:26] <nathanhelp> phorensic: Yeah i would like help if you can manage it. I have a WinXP box that has Grub. I had two HD's in it, then removed one. Now Grub isn't loading and is giving me error 21, and stops. the WinXP box only has Network. Anything I can do? Any tips you can give me?
[05:26] <jrhod> test
[05:26] <Until_It_Sleeps> Access denied :P
[05:26] <bamhm182> I have an idea
[05:26] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: Should have setup grub with UUIDs for persistant block naming
[05:26] <phorensic> nathanhelp: pm me plz
[05:26] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: tsk tsk
[05:26] <leviatan> necesito instalar librerias de c
[05:26] <leviatan> en ubuntu
[05:26] <llanto_subterran> Help? I'm trying to compile some of the WMdockApps to use on fluxbox but i think i'm missing some libraries does anyone know which ones they might be ?
[05:26] <nathanhelp> SquareHimself: No idea what your talking about.
[05:26] <leviatan> pero aqui todos hablan ingles
[05:26] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: That's your problem then
[05:27] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: As in, fix that.
[05:27] <Dr_willis> nathanhelp,  you do get the grub menu?
[05:27] <bamhm182> is there a temporary file location on Ubuntu
[05:27] <bamhm182> ?
[05:27] <WebcamWonder> bamhm182: /tmp
[05:27] <nathanhelp> SquareHimself: Dont talk to me like Im dumb. Guidance is appreciated, patronising is not. :)
[05:27] <nathanhelp> Dr_willis: I do not.
[05:27] <Until_It_Sleeps> Could somebody who knows... whatever language this is... help leviatan here?
[05:27] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: I'm saying, use UUIDs for grub
[05:28] <leviatan> como me cambio a ubuntu in spanish
[05:28] <Jim_Raynor> leviatan, escribe /j #ubuntu-es
[05:28] <WebcamWonder> !es | leviatan
[05:28] <leviatan> ok
[05:28] <Dr_willis> With GRUB - some times you just have to break down and go to the grub homepage and learn how grub works. Sound like grub was installed on the OTHER hard drive.. you need to boot to live cd. and reinstall grub perhaps.  following one of the methoods in the !grub ting
[05:28] <nathanhelp> SquareHimself: I still have no Idea what your talking about. I could google, but that wont fix my current problem will it?
[05:28] <snakeyes_> que necesistas leviatan, exactamente?
[05:28] <On0bi> is there anyway to turn compiz on and off?
[05:28] <[tggrbot]> anyone know how to compile c code with gcc?
[05:28] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: Umm... yes, it will actually.
[05:29] <leviatan> es que no se como hacer para que en un codigo en c sirva /a
[05:29] <WebcamWonder> On0bi: System -> Preferences -> Apperence -> Visual Effects
[05:29] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: A quick google for the error, then setting up grub properly with persistance device naming... and you're fixed.
[05:29] <bamhm182> dang, I thought that perhaps that's where the copy of 8.10 that I had went
[05:29] <SquareHimself> s/persistance/persistant
[05:29] <WebcamWonder> [tggrbot]: gcc <file_name>
[05:29] <[tggrbot]> thanks
[05:29] <bamhm182> also, wiik, songbird doesn't seem to support the Zune
[05:30] <bamhm182> either that or I'm too tired to figure it out...
[05:30] <snakeyes_> leviatan: cuenta me mas acerca de que queieres alcanzar  con tu codigo?
[05:30] <[tggrbot]> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[05:30] <WebcamWonder> bamhm182: libmtp apparently does. It has an entry in brainstorm
[05:30] <bamhm182> alright, thanks
[05:30] <bamhm182> I will check it out
[05:30] <leviatan> un sonido
[05:30] <bamhm182> do you know if it syncs?
[05:31] <kansan> what port(s) does vncviewer operate over?  vncviewer 192.168.0.217:0  ?
[05:31] <tommy_armour> question about dual monitor and cube rotate.  The displays are separate as It rotates,  how do I make it look like one big cube?
[05:31] <tommy_armour> 5900
[05:31] <WebcamWonder> bamhm182: Hardly. It came up with the google search "zune ubuntu" :)
[05:31] <tommy_armour> 5800 for http:
[05:31] <tommy_armour> 5900 is default port
[05:31] <leviatan> es que apenas comienzo a programar y quiero que tenga la mayor librerias posibles
[05:31] <bamhm182> that was the problem I had with songbird, apparently you could access it, but it didn't have anything past that
[05:32] <snakeyes_> me voy a buscar al ratito por un libereria que se sierve. espera....
[05:32] <Berserkur> Does anyone know why my Ubuntu keep kernel-panic'ing randomnly? This has been going on for a long time and now I can't even make an argument to my MCSA friends anymore. Everytime I coma back to my computer now. There is a panic
[05:32] <leviatan> ok grax
[05:32] <tamer> hi
[05:32] <bamhm182> ah, alright, weird, I could have sworn I googled Zune ubuntu, I must have worded it differently...
[05:33] <Berserkur> And I don't have the known wireless chipset problem
[05:33] <WebcamWonder> bamhm182: Google is nicer with me :P
[05:33] <tamer> hi all
[05:33] <Jim_Raynor> is there any mobile phone version of Ubuntu?
[05:33] <Jim_Raynor> I want to install it on a Samsung Omnia...
[05:33] <SquareHimself> Jim_Raynor: Too bad.
[05:34] <bamhm182> "Authentication required for file transfer which does not yet work"
[05:34] <gerber_> I have 2 computer both with ubuntu, how i network this 2 together help please ?
[05:34] <SquareHimself> Jim_Raynor: Your phone couldn't handle the mass of Ubuntu
[05:34] <Berserkur> And i've checked my memory. That is not the problem!!
[05:34] <bamhm182> oh well
[05:34] <bamhm182> I've got more than enough music for now...
[05:34] <Jim_Raynor> ok... which phone does?
[05:34] <SquareHimself> Jim_Raynor: None as far as I know
[05:34] <bamhm182> if I absolutely NEED something, I'll just use my mom's computer
[05:34] <SquareHimself> Jim_Raynor: Google for embedded linux for your phone model.
[05:35] <gerber_> I have 2 computer both with ubuntu, how i network this 2 together help please ?
[05:35] <Jim_Raynor> EMBEDDED ... that was the word that I couldn't recall
[05:35] <bamhm182> Microsoft should really allow the Zune to be a DnD device
[05:36] <Fertech> i have a second hard drive of 320gb as a slave but only see 318.7 with it's own ubuntu partition. why do i see only 218.7GB?
[05:36] <bamhm182> I mean, really, what's the worst that could happen?
[05:36] <bamhm182> sorry, going off topic
[05:36] <gerber_> I have 2 computer both with ubuntu, how i network this 2 together help please ?
[05:36] <Berserkur> gerber: How do you want to network them together? Do you want to access files?
[05:36] <nathanhelp> Sorry SquareHimself. your tsk tsk sounded like ..well..patronising, when I didnt even know about UUID.
[05:36] <gerber_> yes sir
[05:36] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: Now you know.
[05:36] <nathanhelp> I've read up on them but dont understand much.
[05:37] <SquareHimself> nathanhelp: It should happen by default... doesn't make sense why it isn't
[05:37] <Fertech> i have a second hard drive of 320gb as a slave but only see 318.7 with it's own ubuntu partition. why do i see only 218.7GB?
[05:37] <gerber_> so any ideas Berserkur /
[05:37] <Fertech> does any one know
[05:37] <therootest> hello. I have a problem with compiz fusion. I installed it and now it doesnt work! And, except for that, my windows lost their icons (minimize-maximize-exit). can someone help me, please?
[05:37] <SquareHimself> Fertech: Your question makes no sense
[05:38] <WebcamWonder> Fertech: I gave you the answer about 5 hours ago, and you said you understood it and were ok with it
[05:38] <izinucs> Fertech, 218 or 318?
[05:38] <gerber_> I have 2 computer both with ubuntu, how i network this 2 together help please ?
[05:38] <SquareHimself> gerber_: samba
[05:38] <SquareHimself> gerber_: Google is your friend.
[05:38] <Fertech> yea but 2gb is alot web
[05:38] <gerber_> saba what
[05:38] <Berserkur> gerber: Go to the folder that you want to share, right click on it and choose share. If you don't have the sharing facilities... Then follow the instructions
[05:38] <SquareHimself> gerber_: No command for you. Google the term 'samba'
[05:38] <Berserkur> gerber: Read carfully
[05:38] <rikkimaru> gerber_: samba is a file sharing program
[05:39] <WebcamWonder> Fertech: Do the math yourself. 1000 B = 1 KB. And 1000 MB = GB
[05:39] <SquareHimself> gerber_:  duryodhan  : Hi .. I am running a linux system and I want to install ubuntu 8.10 - I don't
[05:39] <SquareHimself>                         have the alternate CD -- Is there any way I can install ubuntu without having to
[05:39] <SquareHimself>                         burn the CD / usb disk ?
[05:39] <gerber_> do i has to put command ?
[05:39] <SquareHimself> oops
[05:39] <Fertech> webcamwonder can i add this slave drive to the master
[05:39] <gerber_> I'm so new a emigrate from windows
[05:39] <SquareHimself> gerber_:  duryodhan  : Hi .. I am running a linux system and I want to install ubuntu 8.10 - I don't
[05:39] <rikkimaru> gerber_: you'll have to type several commands
[05:39] <SquareHimself>                         have the alternate CD -- Is there any way I can install ubuntu without having to
[05:39] <SquareHimself>                         burn the CD / usb disk ?
[05:39] <SquareHimself> grr
[05:39] <FloodBot1> SquareHimself: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:39] <SquareHimself> gerber_: http://www.google.com/cse?cx=partner-pub-1841856653263547%3Aeizsrb-eis2&ie=UTF-8&sa=Search&q=samba
[05:39] <Fertech> i have two ubuntu
[05:40] <tommy_armour> I figured out my cube rotate issue, there is a setting in compizconfig-settings-manager for 'one big cube'
[05:40] <WebcamWonder> Fertech: You can surely mount the drive to any arbitary path
[05:40] <Shii> which version of ubuntu has the least glitchy version of pulseaudio? i'm hoping i can upgrade my way out of this Flash mess
[05:40] <Fertech> webcamwonder how do i do that
[05:40] <WebcamWonder> !mount | Fertech
[05:41] <WebcamWonder> !fstab | Fertech
[05:41] <miik> shii, jaunty will have glitch-free audio... when its released in april
[05:41] <gerber_> remote desktop is easy or hard  ?
[05:41] <Fertech> ok ubottu thanks
[05:41] <miik> gerber, i think easy
[05:41] <O__o> hi, when i add user using the gui, what is diff between desktop user and unprivileged ?
[05:41] <Shii> thanks miik! i guess i'll wait for that
[05:41] <miik> O__o, i think they have different permissions
[05:42] <Shii> currently i'm on gutsy, i know it will be discontinued soon but pulseaudio is broken for my card
[05:42] <miik> O__o, i think maybe unprevilegied cant sudo, and cant mount... not sure :S
[05:42] <therootest> hello. I have a problem with compiz fusion. I installed it and now it doesnt work! And, except for that, my windows lost their icons (minimize-maximize-exit). can someone help me, please?
[05:42] <gerber_> miik see private
[05:42] <Shii> therootest: try running nautilus manually?
[05:42] <izinucs> Shii, Ibex has better pulseaudio support
[05:42] <therootest> shii, what is nautilus and how i run it? (i am on kubuntu 8.0.4)
[05:42] <O__o> so if i want to make a guest account for other to ssh into the server i better make unprivileged profile?
[05:42] <Shii> oops! sorry
[05:43] <phorensic> !grub
[05:43] <therootest> shii, the KWin works properly, though :)
[05:43] <Berserkur> This is the first time I come to this channel and I can see that it is completely Useless. I'm and advanced Linux user and I can solve most of my problems myself but this is just another RTFM channel...              RTFM is not Ubuntu!!!!!
[05:43] <tommy_armour> crossing fingers, my upgrade from hardy to ibex is about to complete
[05:43] <tommy_armour> what is your question Beserkur?
[05:43] <Shii> therootest: kubuntu is different... i'm not sure what their window manager is, is anyone familiar?
[05:43] <kindofabuzz> kde
[05:44] <Shii> well, yeah... but the WM broke separately
[05:44] <therootest> shii, i have to choices for window managers: compiz or Kwin :) the first doesnt work.
[05:44] <Shii> try opening up a terminal and running Kwin
[05:44] <Berserkur> Ubuntu is the most useful linux around, with the support of MINT but this channel is a disgrace
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> oh i see what you're saying
[05:44] <Shii> Berserkur: your question?
[05:44] <kindofabuzz> Mint ftw
[05:44] <tommy_armour> try asking  now that you have some different peoples attention..
[05:44] <Jim_Raynor> hmmm... I just realized that I have never seen compiz tunning on KDE
[05:45] <Jim_Raynor> or better yet, running
[05:45] <gregcha117> pulseaudio is not picking up my sound device anymore but when i run alsamixer in terminal it comes up fine any ideas?
[05:45] <therootest> Shii: kwin --replace worked :) now im on kwin.
[05:45] <Shii> great!
[05:45] <O__o> Berserkur, #linux is better channel
[05:45] <Jim_Raynor> !mint
[05:45] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: And Arch is a better distro, that is if you really are a more 'advanced' user.
[05:45] <Berserkur> Shii: No question. I've stopped asking. I wanted to ask about the constant kernel panic but now I can see that I have more chance of solving that problem by asking Linus Torvalds while I'm drun
[05:46] <Berserkur> k
[05:46] <Shii> yeah, that's kind of tough for this channel
[05:46] <miik> !mintsupport
[05:46] <Shii> can't exactly have kernel hackers hanging out here 24/7
[05:46] <vegombrei> WebcamWonder: dude there's no application in that menu .. thats why i asked if there was a plug in
[05:46] <Jim_Raynor> please, we all know that the superir distro is Slackware
[05:46] <WebcamWonder> vegombrei: Excuse me?
[05:46] <miik> Shii, yeah that would be unproductive :)
[05:46] <tommy_armour> the superior distro is *windows 7*
[05:47] <miik> lets not bother the kernel overlords :D
[05:47] <tritium> Berserkur: what seems to be the problem you're having with this channel?
[05:47] <O__o> slackware is hard to install back in 2002 i think
[05:47] <Shii> not high enough support...
[05:47] <wolter> help, extreme tux racer giving me "X11 driver not configured with OpenGL"
[05:47] <tritium> SquareHimself: nonsense.  Ubuntu is based on debian, and doesn't take a backseat to arch in terms of being just as useful for "advanced" users.
[05:47] <vegombrei> 10:46 < WebcamWonder> vegombrei: right click on the picture and select to open in whatever program you wish
[05:48] <izinucs> tritium, Berserkur gets a kernel panic but nobody's been able to help
[05:48] <vegombrei> WebcamWonder: in regard to f-spot
[05:48] <Thurin1> tritium, BLASPHEMY
[05:48] <Thurin1> tritium, Repent
[05:48] <SquareHimself> tritium: But Arch is better because of control over the system.
[05:48] <SquareHimself> tritium: And many other things
[05:48] <Shii> anyway, I want hulu.com to work quite badly, so I guess I will install 32-bit arch over this old thing, hohoho
[05:48] <WebcamWonder> vegombrei: Right click on the picture itself, after you have it in the expanded window after single click
[05:48] <tritium> SquareHimself: nonsense
[05:48] <SquareHimself> tritium: Not at all :D
[05:48] <Thurin1> SquareHimself, Speed don't forget the speed
[05:48] <Jim_Raynor> meh, why don't we all just erae the partitions and install FreeBSD?
[05:48]  * Jim_Raynor ducks
[05:48] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: I've done all that shit. I've used slack, gentoo and the rest of them. Now I want to relax. That means... I wan't a new device to work when I bring it. Or a device to work without 10 minutes of work to get it to work... I bet you know what I mean
[05:48] <Thurin1> tritium, What are the packages for Ubuntu -i386?
[05:48] <Thurin1> wtf
[05:48] <tritium> Berserkur: language, please
[05:48] <Thurin1> fuck i386
[05:48] <FloodBot1> Thurin1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:49] <tritium> Thurin1: you too, language
[05:49] <vegombrei> WebcamWonder: im doing that ... it has an option in its right click menu that says open with .. and there's nothing there .. so i figured i dont have the application
[05:49] <Thurin1> tritium, So how you lubbin i386?
[05:49] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Then you've never used Arch.
[05:49] <Thurin1> Been able to turn your Ubuntu's into semi Apple clones?
[05:49] <Jim_Raynor> Berserkur: buy a mac and stop whining
[05:49] <rahul> hy
[05:49] <tritium> Thurin1: "lubbin"?
[05:49] <Thurin1> Have you been discussing ways to window up Ubuntuz?
[05:50] <WebcamWonder> vegombrei: That is weird. I think it should pick that up by default. Although it has been some time since I used that app
[05:50] <rahul> ubuntu rox...
[05:50] <Berserkur> tritium: I'm sorry if I spoke ill but the problem I have is that the people that speak in this channel are not representing the Distro in a good manner
[05:50] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: that's because more people are here for help than to help
[05:50] <tritium> SquareHimself: you've evidently not learned how to "control" the system via debian/ubuntu methods.
[05:50] <SquareHimself> tritium: I have, I don't like it.
[05:50] <SquareHimself> tritium: Nuff said.
[05:50] <Thurin1> tritium, God sakes .. don't compare Debian to Ubuntu
[05:50] <tritium> SquareHimself: not liking it doesn't mean it doesn't exist
[05:50] <Thurin1> tritium, Ubuntu can run maybe a week without issue - Debian perhaps years
[05:51] <Thurin1> please spare me
[05:51] <rahul> lol
[05:51] <tritium> Thurin1: they're quite related
[05:51] <vegombrei> WebcamWonder: yeah ... i loaded close to 50k pictures ... took all day for the damn thing to import .. and now all i can do is view them as thumbnails
[05:51] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: To be honest, I have not. I figured it would be kind of the same as early slackware
[05:51] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Not even close
[05:51] <Thurin1> tritium, Well duh - but they are not identical - go look in the Debian channel
[05:51] <Thurin1> Do you see a mountain of problems?
[05:51] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Better package management than ubuntu imho
[05:51] <Thurin1> no
[05:51] <Thurin1> why ?
[05:51] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: But ofcourse when it comes to the Kernel. It's not the same
[05:51] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: It's easy
[05:51] <WebcamWonder> vegombrei: Even though I am on gnome, I switched to kde's photo manager. It isn't horribly broken like f-spot
[05:51] <tritium> Thurin1: you exaggerate.
[05:51] <izinucs> !ot | Thurin1 tritium
[05:51] <nickrud> Thurin1, we're not here to argue. If you don't like ubuntu, don't use it.
[05:52] <bamhm182> how can I find the MAC address of my bluetooth keyboard and mouse?
[05:52] <rootrot> Can open office create a power point presentation that will open in windows? what format should it be saved under if this will work?
[05:52] <nickrud> lol tritium is off topic?!!
[05:52] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Always up to date with rolling release... and an up-to-date system is as simply as pacman -Syu
[05:52] <izinucs> rootrot, ys
[05:52] <tritium> nickrud: ;)
[05:52] <mattgyver83wasta> rootrot yes, save as ppt
[05:52] <Thurin1> nickrud, I don't use it - but when someone has cancer it's my duty to warn them
[05:52] <Thurin1> SquareHimself, High five?
[05:52] <bamhm182> It's on the bottom of each of them, but they're worn off, so I'm trying to find them using Ubunutu
[05:52] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: Package management is not my problem. It's the functionality. Which is really good in ubunty but!... The stability is getting me down
[05:52] <Thurin1> come'on
[05:52] <bamhm182> *Ubuntu
[05:52] <Thurin1> o/
[05:52] <Thurin1> Berserkur, Thank you for being honest.
[05:52] <Thurin1> :)
[05:52] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: functionality is a choice of the user.
[05:52] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: I am a long time user of FreeBSD is that helps at all
[05:53] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Then you'd love Arch
[05:53] <vegombrei> how do i search for specific help on ubuntu  ???????? after having tried google and #ubuntu ofcourse
[05:53] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Give it a shot.
[05:53] <Thurin1> Berserkur, Virtual machine ;)
[05:53] <tritium> SquareHimself: please stay on topic, or leave
[05:53] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Arch is what you make it, not made out of the box
[05:53] <nickrud> Thurin1, I reboot for kernel upgrades. No other issues. Ran unstable/experimental for years, this is far more stable. So. Anyway, this is not a question for here
[05:53] <SquareHimself> tritium: right right, my apologies.
[05:53] <Thurin1> nickrud, My kernel is panicking in Ubuntu what do I dooz?
[05:54] <nickrud> Thurin1, what did you do to it? Got any diagnostics?
[05:54] <SquareHimself> Thurin1: You're a terrible troll.
[05:54] <Thurin1> That actually did happen btw
[05:54] <Thurin1> SquareHimself, LOL
[05:54] <tritium> Thurin1: please stay on topic, or leave
[05:54] <Thurin1> nickrud, I installed Apache - and boom kernel panic upon reboot
[05:54] <nathanhelp> vegombrei: Just ask :)
[05:54] <miik> :(
[05:55] <sandGorgon> is there someway i can get 2.6.28 kernel on 8.10 - maybe some experimental repository ?
[05:56] <miik> by compiling it yourself ;)
[05:56] <sandGorgon> ahh... i mean other than that...
[05:56] <miik> think no, if nobody made a ppa
[05:56] <sloopy> sandGorgon, there is an 'experimental' repo at kernel.org with all versions
[05:56] <vegombrei> nathanhelp: i imported about 50000 pictures in fspot .. took all day ... i can only view them in thumbnail .. if i double click it does nothing and when i right click and goto the open-with option theres no application to open it with
[05:56] <[OBACRON]> can someone help me I am having a problem uninstalling  bacula-director-mysql I have tried apt-get remove --purge  bacula-director-mysql but it is not working is there a way to manually remove a program
[05:57] <sandGorgon> sloopy: oh... you mean i can use dpkg with that ?
[05:57] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: To be honest. I've tried so many linux distros and unices that I've seen that id doesn't really matter what you do it's all fundamentally the same unless there are some major phlilosophycal or legal differeces between the two os'es
[05:57] <sloopy> sandGorgon, no, would have to roll your own
[05:58] <izinucs> vegombrei, it could be that fspot is still generating thumbs.. often they are placed in ~/.thumbnails.. if Fspot is busy it may not be able to open the full rez of the pic.
[05:58] <[OBACRON]> anyone?
[05:58] <SquareHimself> Berserkur: Just try Arch and thank me later. Plus, stay on topic so I don't get kicked out of here
[05:58] <n8tuserf> [OBACRON] -> how did you install it?
[05:59] <grinn> hey can anyone tell me what "[   57.715066] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task!" mean?
[05:59] <oneunder> [OBACRON]: i wish i could help you, but i cannot.   But i think the people who can are too busy arguing about inane matters of who distro is bigger.  Sorry....
[05:59] <Berserkur> Arch is not my answer becouse I'm fed up with having to make everyting work by myself.
[06:00] <tritium> SquareHimself: that's not helping
[06:00] <tritium> He didn't ask for arch linux help.
[06:00] <[OBACRON]> is there a way to manually remove a apt from the apt installed list
[06:00] <SquareHimself> tritium: I don't think this guy can be helped anyways, so I might as well propagate.
[06:00] <kindofabuzz> try Mint, it's what Ubuntu should be
[06:00] <oneunder> kindofabuzz: then why are you in the Ubuntu channel?
[06:00] <phorensic> kindofabuzz: mint is weak
[06:00] <tritium> SquareHimself: this is not the forum for that
[06:01] <kindofabuzz> because i use both
[06:01] <nickrud> !ot | all of you, please use #ubuntu-offtopic for distro comparisons
[06:01] <kindofabuzz> and pretty much this isn't a channel about ubuntu, it's a channel for novice linux questions
[06:01] <[OBACRON]> can someone help me please
[06:01] <WebcamWonder> !anyone | [OBACRON]
[06:02] <grinn> what does "[   57.715066] Kernel panic - not syncing: Attempted to kill the idle task!" mean?
[06:02] <[OBACRON]>  I am having a problem uninstalling  bacula-director-mysql I have tried apt-get remove --purge  bacula-director-mysql but it is not working is there a way to manually remove a program
[06:02] <nickrud> [OBACRON], try running sudo apt-get -f install ; put the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <izinucs> [OBACRON], did you preface your apt-get remove --purge line with sudo?
[06:02] <tuxflavoredwaffl> is this the tech support channel?
[06:02] <nickrud> [OBACRON], we'll move on to backula afterwards
[06:02] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: Sorry. I'm very drunk and stoned. However... I think I'm making a valid point. I've used linux for a long time. I like all the scripts and code that Ubuntu makes to make things automated and that's why I don't thing why arch will get me going. I used to love the reading and figuring out but now I just want to relax :D
[06:02] <[OBACRON]> im running as root
[06:03] <WebcamWonder> tuxflavoredwaffl: subset of tech, Ubuntu
[06:03] <phorensic> [OBACRON]: any more information, how is it not working?? error messages? etc
[06:03] <sandGorgon> i wish ubuntu would release a lightweight distro - with just office, browser and rhythmbox
[06:03] <sloopy> grinn, it is the linux equivelent of a blue screen
[06:03] <Berserkur> SquareHimself: That's why I'm so annoyed by the constant kernel panics
[06:03] <Berserkur> Which happen while my system is idle
[06:03] <grinn> sloopy my old friend and mentor, what can i do to fix this?
[06:03] <Berserkur> And that's now linux!!!!
[06:03] <[OBACRON]> http://paste.ubuntu.com/111956/
[06:03] <[OBACRON]> this is the error
[06:04] <tuxflavoredwaffl> what torrent client is fastest in 8.04?
[06:04] <miik> idk, i use Transmission
[06:04] <WebcamWonder> Deluge
[06:04] <WebcamWonder> my preference
[06:04] <nickrud> [OBACRON], you deleted /etc/init.d/bacula-director by hand?
[06:04] <grinn> sloopy: i've been trying to boot from disc, but for some reason i'm not getting the option to load ubuntu from the disc
[06:04] <[OBACRON]> no
[06:04] <[OBACRON]> i used
[06:04] <[OBACRON]> apt-get remove
[06:04] <wers> what app tells me about hardware info?
[06:05] <[OBACRON]> should i do a touch and recreate it?
[06:05] <wers> i want to know the model of my webcam
[06:05] <histo> !best | tuxflavoredwaffl
[06:05] <Jim_Raynor> Berserkur: what's your suggested solution to that issue?
[06:05] <nickrud> [OBACRON], that would be my first step; don't forget to make it executable.
[06:05] <izinucs> wers, is it usb?
[06:05] <wers> izinucs, internal
[06:06] <izinucs> wers, might be on the usb circuit.. in a terminal you could lsusb or sudo lshw
[06:06] <histo> wers, lspci or lsusb
[06:06] <tuxflavoredwaffl> what is a good p2p app?
[06:06] <[OBACRON]> BOOOM
[06:06] <[OBACRON]> nickrud
[06:06] <[OBACRON]> i love ya man
[06:06] <grinn> sloopy: @ work?
[06:06] <kindofabuzz> tuxflavoredwaffl, torrents
[06:06] <[OBACRON]> thank you
[06:07] <nickrud> [OBACRON], cool, it was simple this time :)
[06:07] <sandGorgon> i'm building something and i get "X11 headers/libs are not available". what should i install ?
[06:07] <sloopy> grinn, yeah
[06:07] <[OBACRON]> fuck man
[06:07] <[OBACRON]> im using 9.04
[06:07] <tritium> [OBACRON]: watch the language
[06:07] <[OBACRON]> EXt4 rocks
[06:07] <[OBACRON]> ohhh
[06:07] <FloodBot1> [OBACRON]: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:07] <[OBACRON]> im soory
[06:07] <kindofabuzz> i heard it does
[06:07] <wers> thanks izinucs and histo :)
[06:07] <nickrud> !jaunty | [OBACRON]
[06:07] <[OBACRON]> excuse me
[06:07] <izinucs> wers, np
[06:07] <grinn> sloopy: should i just reinstall from disc, then?
[06:07] <gbear14275> I'm having some problems getting my speakers to play at full volume
[06:07] <[OBACRON]> sorry about the cussing guys
[06:08] <nickrud> [OBACRON], don't sweat it, just don't do it ;)
[06:08] <Shii> !vmware
[06:08] <sloopy> grinn, is it doing this while booting from the CD or from a previously installed and working system?\
[06:08] <gbear14275> I seem to remember when I went through a pulse audio install guide that there was a bug about PA halving the volume sometimes and some script I had to run to ensure it was configured right... anyone know about this at all?
[06:08] <Shii> !VirtualBox
[06:08] <Berserkur> Jim_raynor: Well, I meant to say. "And that not Linux!!" But that's another issue. My suggestion is try and get a single bug report about the issue. Right now I feel like there are so many bug reports that the developers can't work them out
[06:08] <wers> izinucs, what does lshw mean? :)
[06:09] <grinn> sloopy, it was coming up every time i booted from a previously installed and working system
[06:09] <izinucs> wers, list all hardware
[06:09] <WebcamWonder> Berserkur: Have you tried asking in ##linux, perhaps they are a bit more greared to kernel panics?
[06:09] <sloopy> grinn, i would venture to guess a corrupted kernel as most likly, but bad HD, or RAM also secondary possibilities
[06:10] <sandGorgon> i think we need a bug consolidation drive.... get everyone to take a bug, search for it on the database and merge it with another
[06:10] <nimblerabit> ooh irssi is neat
[06:10] <tritium> Thurin1: there were i686 kernels in the past, but the performance gains were so minimal, that the diminishing returns for maintaining a separate variant were simply not worth the effort.
[06:10] <grinn> sloopy: i'm being led to believe it's the kernel, because i've also gotten "tried to kill init!"
[06:10] <tritium> i386 performs so closely on modern hardware anyway, that i386 and amd64 are adequate choices
[06:10] <Berserkur> Jim_ranour: And whe problem is that when intrepid was released, they thought that it was only a single wireless chipset to blame but I actually thank it's the WPA code to bame. However, I am not a coder so I can't make a significant argument in that matter but that's what I think
[06:10] <[OBACRON]> man
[06:11] <sloopy> sandGorgon, and then keep mergeing them until there is only one bug left, fix that bug and bam! ubuntu is perfeckt! :')
[06:11] <AussieGuy> ive found a good solution to my isp's dns problems, ive set up an ssh tunnel to my dedicated server and browsing through it, getting msn, everything else to connect to the local socks proxy which forwards everything to the dedicated server over ssh
[06:11] <bamhm182> does anyone know how to find the MAC ID of a bluetooth mouse via Ubuntu? On the internet it say type hcitool scan into the terminal, but it says "Device is not available: No such device"
[06:11] <nickrud> !bug1
[06:11] <[OBACRON]> bacula is so broken in 9.04
[06:11] <[OBACRON]> its not funny
[06:11] <tritium> ohness: #ubuntu+1 for 9.04 discussion, please
[06:11] <tritium> [OBACRON]: ^^
[06:11] <nickrud> sloopy, there is one already: bug #1
[06:12] <sloopy> grinn, hmmm if the problem manifests itself different each time then ram is a more likely the culprit...
[06:12] <SquareHimself> http://www.myexjess.com/?id=nr70vktfpipwp15m6dspn2yrv19t6
[06:12] <SquareHimself> oops
[06:12] <SquareHimself> wrong channel
[06:12] <FloodBot1> SquareHimself: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:12] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: No I haven't. Maybe that's something I should have done... rather that being pissed at ubuntu. The thing is that ever since I started to use ubuntu I got more ignorant and more focused on the actual work I was doing on the computer
[06:13] <WebcamWonder> Berserkur: Yes, that tends to happen. The only reason why I don't go chasing after <insert any distribution here>. I spend a lot of time programming, I don't want to spend the rest of my free time tinkering with my OS all the time
[06:13] <sloopy> nickrud, that is a bug... but its too complicated to be fixed yet... other things need to be fixed in ubuntu berfore that one can be closed
[06:14]  * nickrud swears he was saying the same thing about brain bit rot and linux
[06:14] <nickrud> s/linux/ubuntu/
[06:14] <Alex_21> Hi, my screen resolution is messed up. I can't see the screen that lets me change the resolution it is so big. I can however ssh into it from another machine
[06:14] <Alex_21> What should I do
[06:15] <slashzul> Alex_21: kill it
[06:15] <Alex_21> I have no problem editing config manually
[06:15] <Alex_21> Just tell me how
[06:15] <gbear14275> could someone help me perhaps execute the steps on this page? (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/274884) I'm not familiar with how to do this...
[06:15] <EMPulse> hey guyes
[06:15] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: So maybe it's more upstream that I thought? But, I would think that this issue would be solved much earlier becouse of all the servers that are Linux driven
[06:15] <EMPulse> does anyone have any experience using TorK?
[06:15] <sloopy> Alex_21, your res is fine, its your monitor is too small (or reconfig X)
[06:16] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: Which leads me again to the WPA to be the blame
[06:16] <SusanIsMyName> are drivers stored on the card, like the graphics card or somewhere on the HD?
[06:16] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: But I haven't found any bug-reports on that issue
[06:16] <WebcamWonder> Berserkur: It just might be some application creating this havoc. Again, most people here aren't kernel hackers to begin with, or even server admins
[06:16] <tritium> SusanIsMyName: files on the hard drive
[06:17] <grinn> sloopy: i ran a memcheck earlier and nothing came up
[06:17] <Alex_21> I had it fine and then changed the resolution
[06:17] <Alex_21> Then now I can't change it back
[06:17] <grinn> damn thing ran more than 11 hours
[06:18] <thecookie> Hey. I just created a netinstall ubuntu boot usb drive. When I reboot something is weird. My screen is filled with "GRUB", keeps spamming.. doesn't seem grub is loaded correctly?
[06:18] <izinucs> Alex_21, nvidia?
[06:18] <sloopy> grinn, yeah my laptop will run the memcheck for hours on end, but the ram in the machine is still bad...
[06:18] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: Ohh, that I know for a fact. The fact that I got irriated was becouse when I came in here I saw some RTFM comments and that does not fit Ubuntu
[06:18] <SusanIsMyName> ok so if i was installing solaris and my card needs to have xorg driver then i will have to save the driver to a usb and then text install solaris and transfer the driver over and boom i have gui
[06:18] <tritium> SusanIsMyName: no
[06:19] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: Even the "ubuntu" (word) does not fit that
[06:19] <QCJN> hi, Launchy is the alt+f2 in linux ubuntu ? right ? http://www.launchy.net/index.html#introduction
[06:19] <tritium> Berserkur: when did you first start having kernel panics?
[06:19] <Alex_21> Help. I am having a panic
[06:19] <WebcamWonder> Berserkur: Well, some people to get fed up after being asked questions like how to perform a recursive copy. So they reply with man cp
[06:19] <Berserkur> tritium: A few months ago
[06:19] <thomas1978c> hi there, im having issues with video playback. its stutters and wants to leave the window when it gets dragged by the mouse cursor.  I have loaded: amarok, codeine, elisa media center, kmplayer and totem. the audio players work fine. but I think I am missing something somewhere. files I have played in the player/s: .avi .divx, .mp4, all get funky during playback.....helpers???
[06:19] <Alex_21> My screen res is too big
[06:20] <grinn> sloopy, without anything coming up? i've had this machine for a little over a month
[06:20] <izinucs> Alex_21, I asked if you had an nvidia card
[06:20] <UpChuck_Norris> QCJN, alt+F2 does the same thing launchy does in most window managers/desktop environments
[06:20] <silv3r_m00n> i am looking for a clean compact professional gnome theme
[06:20] <silv3r_m00n> plese suggest a few
[06:20] <tritium> Berserkur: which release?  Do you recall a specific event, upgrade, piece of hardware you installed that triggered it?
[06:20] <QCJN> UpChuck_Norris: thanks
[06:20] <Berserkur> tritium: At first I just thought it was the open-source ATI (radeon) xorg driver begin unstable but at the same time i Upgraded to Intrepid
[06:20] <Alex_21> No, I don't think so
[06:20] <sloopy> grinn, does it boot at all? if so try reinstalling kernel first
[06:20] <UpChuck_Norris> No problem
[06:21] <SusanIsMyName> tritium: why would not that work
[06:21] <Alex_21> It is a Powermac G4
[06:21] <Berserkur> tritium: I've learned that fglrx has nothing to do with it. It panic's anyway
[06:21] <tritium> SusanIsMyName: different systems altogether.
[06:21] <doseryder> Not so much of a ubuntu question but does anyone know of a pdf creator/converter program available for linux?
[06:21] <Alex_21> Yes, an online service exists
[06:21] <grinn> sloopy, i just reinstalled from liveCD ... it's currently resizing the partition ... that doesn't reformat my drive, does it?
[06:21] <WebcamWonder> doseryder: File -> Print -> PDF Writer. Done :)
[06:21] <izinucs> Alex_21, ah... don't know much about them.. but you can sudo lshw in terminal and your vid card will be listed there.. perhaps you don't have the correct driver installed yet.
[06:21] <grinn> doseryder i think firefox has an addon for that
[06:22] <sloopy> grinn, it could...
[06:22] <Alex_21> Help, I can't see the buttons on the screen to readjust it
[06:22] <tritium> Berserkur: So, when it first started, what had just changed?  A new kernel update?  New hardware installed?  Anything you recall?
[06:22] <newb12345> how do I create an amazon ec2 ubuntu-server image?
[06:22] <EMPulse> does anyone have any experience using TorK?
[06:22] <thomas1978c> tritum: get envy.
[06:22] <doseryder> WebcamWonder: you mean within Open Office(writer I should say)
[06:22] <newb12345> how do I create an amazon ec2 ubuntu-server ami image? I don't want to use an existing one. I want to create my own.
[06:22] <UpChuck_Norris> Alex_21, you can see the window, but part of it is of the screen?
[06:22] <Alex_21> It was working fine until I messed with the res settings
[06:22] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: That's is very true. But if the get fed up with those questions they should part the #ubuntu channel because they don't belong here anymore
[06:22] <UpChuck_Norris> off*
[06:22] <tritium> thomas1978c: was that for me?
[06:22] <thomas1978c> yes
[06:23]  * izinucs talks to himself sometimes
[06:23] <thomas1978c> tritum: envy at albertmillone
[06:23] <_2> thomas1978c tisk tisk
[06:23] <WebcamWonder> doseryder: OpenOffice as a built in PDF exporter. But there is a virtual printer installed to convert to PDF as well, hence can be used from any application
[06:23] <sloopy> izinucs, do you reply back when you do?
[06:23] <Alex_21> Yes
[06:23] <tritium> thomas1978c: again, are you trying to tell me?  (That's not my nick)
[06:23] <WebcamWonder> Berserkur: Very true. But if that happens the signal to noise ratio here might go up exponentially :D
[06:23] <izinucs> sloopy, of course :)
[06:23] <thomas1978c> envy is a program that installs ati/nvidia drivers automatically
[06:24] <Alex_21> It is cut off partially
[06:24] <_2> !envy > thomas1978c
[06:24] <thomas1978c> tritium* sorry
[06:24] <izinucs> !envy | thomas1978c
[06:24] <raxial> hi every1
[06:24] <sloopy> izinucs, good, wouldnt want you to be lonely
[06:24] <Berserkur> tritium: Same hardware. Just a new update from hardy to intrepid. I've been a laptop user for some time now and nothing has changed. I can give you the product number if you like :D
[06:24] <UpChuck_Norris> Just hold ALT and click the window to move it
[06:24] <UpChuck_Norris> You can click anywhere on the window
[06:24] <izinucs> sloopy, sometimes I have my most entertaining conversations that way
[06:24] <tritium> thomas1978c: I don't need it.  You shoudl also know that we don't recommend using envy.
[06:25] <sloopy> izinucs, yeah i know how you feel... give me a peer to conversate with...
[06:25] <doseryder> WebcamWonder, ty sir :)
[06:25] <WebcamWonder> doseryder: No problems
[06:25] <bamhm182> does Ubuntu need a separate program to burn ISOs, or does it come with one?
[06:25] <tritium> Berserkur: ok, so upgrade from hardy to intrepid.  Have you inspected any logs under the /var/log/ directory for clues?
[06:25] <tritium> bamhm182: nautilus (installed by default) can burn isos.
[06:25] <Berserkur> WebcamWonder: And you're very correct aswell. However... If you are a true Linux/unix user and you want to spread the word... You have to think about what you are saying/doing!
[06:25] <nickrud> bamhm182, right click an iso, select burn
[06:26] <izinucs> bamhm182, the defacto standard is k3b.. it's in the repo's
[06:26] <bamhm182> alright, thanks
[06:26] <WebcamWonder> Berserkur: Exactly. That is why I tend to hit the close button on my IRC when I am fed up as well :)
[06:26] <bamhm182> I just need something that can burn the Ubuntu 8.10 ISO
[06:26] <thomas1978c> http://albertomilone.com/envyngfaq.html#A
[06:26] <bamhm182> so I think the built in one will work fine
[06:26] <UpChuck_Norris> Alex_21, does alt+click to move the window work for you?
[06:26] <nickrud> Berserkur, WebcamWonder it's been interesting, but it's getting repetitive. Chat on -offtopic, please
[06:26] <tritium> izinucs: that might be a true statement for kubuntu.  On ubuntu, standard is nautilus.
[06:26] <thomas1978c> this will get your video card working.
[06:27] <thecookie> Hey. I just created a netinstall ubuntu boot usb drive. When I reboot something is weird. Instead of booting up the installer, the screen screen is filled with GRUB..and keeps getting spammed with it. What does it mean?
[06:27] <Alex_21> My card was working but the stupid res I messed up
[06:27] <tritium> !envy | thomas1978c
[06:27] <thomas1978c> anyhow, can anyone help me find out what's wrong with my video playback?
[06:27] <izinucs> tritium, true but I haven't had much luck with it.. I tend to throw more disk away
[06:27] <Berserkur> tritium: Yes, kern.log doesn't say anything. Dmesg is the usual and messages is normal. It's panicing to hard to write to disk I think
[06:27] <nickrud> thecookie, a mistake somewhere during the creation?
[06:27] <WebcamWonder> nickrud: I would gladly wrap up the topic. I am sorry, never realized we drifted off-topic here
[06:27] <_2> tritium i think he meant that k3b is "top of the line"   and i kind of agree,  even if it's not a gtk app
[06:27] <thomas1978c> ENVY WORKS
[06:27] <tritium> izinucs: perhaps something peculiar to your hardware
[06:27] <UpChuck_Norris> You said you couldn't click the button to apply the resolution because it is off the screen
[06:28] <nickrud> WebcamWonder, everyone does, I get hit with the offtopic factoid  too
[06:28] <tritium> thomas1978c: please don't recommend it here
[06:28] <UpChuck_Norris> Can you hold ALT and click and drag the window so you can see the button?
[06:28] <thomas1978c> oh, ok, I didn't know
[06:28] <izinucs> tritium, maybe but it followed me even after I rebuilt the machine
[06:28] <Berserkur> tritium: The only thing I haven't tried is to make a serial connection to another computer to record messages... My IBM Thinkpad T60 doesn't have a serial connection
[06:28] <Alex_21> I can't see the button
[06:28] <tritium> Berserkur: have you searched launchpad for bug reports for the issue you're havign?
[06:28] <thomas1978c> I thought this was ubuntu help?
[06:28] <thecookie> nickrud: Maybe. I'm using an automatic tool for it
[06:28] <tritium> izinucs: strange.
[06:28] <Berserkur> tritium: Yes
[06:29] <UpChuck_Norris> I know you can't see it, can you move the window so you can see it?
[06:29] <tritium> _2: more featurefull, yes.  That does not mean "de facto standard", however.
[06:29] <UpChuck_Norris> Holding the ALT key and dragging the window should move it
[06:29] <izinucs> tritium, I know.. so I live with it.. I also like the looks of k3b :)
[06:29] <tritium> izinucs: cool :)
[06:29] <Berserkur> tritium: I haven't found a solution. However... Many peoble seem to have the same problem and that's what worries me
[06:29] <thomas1978c> can anyone help me with my video problem in here?
[06:29] <tritium> Berserkur: what kernel are you running now?  There have been 3 updates in the past 2 days, or so.
[06:29] <nickrud> thomas1978c, it is' that's why we don't recommend envy, we've seen many issues because of it. there's a thing called Works for Me™  :)
[06:30] <thomas1978c> nickrud, I see. ty
[06:30] <nickrud> thomas1978c, what problem, what video card, etc?
[06:30] <Alex_21> It is too big. It won't move
[06:30] <thomas1978c> no, it's a codec/playback issue
[06:30] <izinucs> thomas1978c, what's up. what's happening?
[06:30] <_2> tritium true dat,   poor choice of words maybe...    i'm reminded to "never assume malus for something ignorance can explain."
[06:30] <gwark> hi, i need to install drivers for my webcam ... how do I go about finding the "device managaer" for starters please ??
[06:30] <UpChuck_Norris> Dang, I hoped that would work
[06:30] <thomas1978c> video files of all types stutter
[06:30] <Alex_21> Any other ideas
[06:30] <izinucs> thomas1978c, not flash specifically?
[06:30] <WebcamWonder> !webcam | gwark
[06:31] <Berserkur> tritium: I'm up to date. I aslways update straight away... Because of this problem: 2.6.27-11-generic
[06:31] <thomas1978c> izinucs, yes they flash at about half second intervals
[06:31] <bamhm182> wow... this is taking FOREVER to download
[06:31] <UpChuck_Norris> Can you post your xorg.conf (It's located in /etc/X11/xorg.conf)?
[06:31] <gwark> WebcamWonder, thankyou :)
[06:31] <UpChuck_Norris> An easy site is http://pastebin.com
[06:31] <Alex_21> Yes
[06:31] <bamhm182> last couple times it downloaded much quicker, must have chosen the wrong server this time
[06:31] <Alex_21> Ok
[06:32] <izinucs> thomas1978c, no.. I mean flash based videos.. only those or other videos too based in h.264 or avi or mpeg4 etc.. ALL of them or just flash?
[06:32] <bamhm182> could be going slower I suppose, so I should quit complaining
[06:32] <tritium> Berserkur: no matches on launchpad at all?  Have you considered filing your own bug report?
[06:32] <SusanIsMyName> if solaris uses xorg for gui stuff wat deos ubuntu use?
[06:32] <Berserkur> tritium: You see, I am not used to be a bleading edge user. Used to use freebsd before Ubunty came to play
[06:32] <tritium> SusanIsMyName: Xorg as well
[06:33] <thomas1978c> ﻿izinucs: ﻿hi there, im having issues with video playback. its stutters and wants to leave the window when it gets dragged by the mouse cursor.  I have loaded: amarok, codeine, elisa media center, kmplayer and totem. the audio players work fine. but I think I am missing something somewhere. files I have played in the player/s: .avi .divx, .mp4, all get funky during playback.....helpers???
[06:33] <_2> !bug > Berserkur
[06:33] <tritium> SusanIsMyName: the word is "what", not "wat".  Try it, you'll like it.  Typing one extra character isn't that hard...
[06:33] <tritium> Berserkur: I understand.
[06:34] <Berserkur> tritium: To be honest. I didn't even thing of filing my own bug report because I found a few that matched my exact problem but were never solved. I though I would only be adding one more drop to the sea
[06:34] <izinucs> thomas1978c, do you have any restricted video drivers installed? like nvidia or ati?
[06:34] <tritium> Berserkur: yes, you'd not want to create a duplicate bug.  You should suscribe to the ones you found, and follow their progress.
[06:34] <thomas1978c> izinucs: ati, using ****ng
[06:35] <tritium> thomas1978c: we don't support envyng
[06:35] <Berserkur> ubottu: Sorry... reading
[06:35] <Berserkur> tritium: You're right. That's my bad
[06:35] <thomas1978c> tritium< I got that already
[06:36] <tritium> Berserkur: that's ok.  What laptop do you have?
[06:36] <izinucs> thomas1978c, not saying it is and not saying it isn't but .. maybe it the latest greatest driver the ****ng installed.. or something that ****ng didn't configure correctly
[06:36] <Berserkur> tritium: IBM Thinkpad T60
[06:36] <tritium> Berserkur: hmm, surprising.
[06:36] <thomas1978c> izinucs: it's the only thing that has worked for my ati integrated 3200hd card
[06:36] <Berserkur> tritium: Exactly
[06:36] <thomas1978c> ati drivers won't do it
[06:37] <tritium> Berserkur: have you perused http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/ThinkWiki ?  This is the best resource for Thinkpad owners running linux that I can think of.
[06:37] <izinucs> thomas1978c, sort of.. might be the next release will give you better support.. I have issues with my motherboard.. I have to have pci=nomsi in the kernel line even to boot.
[06:38] <tritium> Berserkur: and, is your firmware updated to the latest?
[06:38] <_2> thomas1978c and maybe it's a conflict between the special ubuntu tweeks and the fact that ****ng expects un-tweeked un-distroilizationed xorg/kernel/blah blah blah ....   but that's the reason that ubuntu doesn't support that script.  because it's not made specificly for ubuntu
[06:39] <Berserkur> tritium: It's not old but I'm not sure if it's the newest. Let's just say it's not factory firmware :)
[06:39] <thomas1978c> that's lame
[06:39] <thomas1978c> I feel like a three legged dog
[06:39] <tritium> Berserkur: I'd start by making sure it's the latest.
[06:39] <_2> thomas1978c country dog in the city ?
[06:39] <thomas1978c> I have a brand new 100 dollar rig and I can't load linux on it and have my hardware working. I don't think im asking too much.
[06:40] <thomas1978c> yeah you got it @\
[06:40] <thomas1978c> 2\
[06:40] <batcoder-7> whats your guys favorite editor?
[06:40] <thomas1978c> 1000.00*
[06:40] <simon_r> hi. i had a login issue, think its a bug.  but b4 i research and report, i have two tty processes running (one console, one gui), and from the gui i cant shut down.  how can i tell which tty to kill?
[06:40] <raxial> batcoder:  nano
[06:40] <Alex_21> I'm back and the xorg is still messed
[06:40] <Alex_21> Here is the file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111959/
[06:40] <thomas1978c> this is a bummer
[06:40] <thomas1978c> I dumped vista completely. not like I was gonna kep it anyhow
[06:41] <_2> thomas1978c i agree,  now if your hardware maker will just listen to you, and release the code for their "propriatary" junk....
[06:41] <thomas1978c> but it would be nice to watch a farking movie
[06:41] <batcoder-7> raxial, even for programming ?
[06:41] <thomas1978c> I know, ****suckers
[06:41] <Berserkur> tritium: Thanks, I'll try that. Maybe that's even the problem. Not company firmware and not the newest. I'll try that Idea
[06:41] <Berserkur> tritium: Thanks
[06:41] <raxial> batcoder:  that'll teach me for just jumping in :)....no I wouldn't use nano for coding
[06:42] <raxial> just general text editing
[06:42] <Alex_21> Hi, well, I still have a screen res that is too big
[06:42] <_2> raxial vi ?
[06:42] <Alex_21> And I can't graphically change it
[06:42] <batcoder-7> what do you guys use for programming ?
[06:42] <thomas1978c> _2 ati's website has linux support for my card supposedly. it doesn't work at all
[06:42] <UpChuck_Norris> Have you tried running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg?"
[06:42] <edgex-> Hello- Do any of you have any suggestions as far as video editing software goes
[06:43] <thomas1978c> man I wish I knew java well enough to just write my own
[06:43] <gwark> WebcamWonder, how do I go about finding out what kind of camera my webcam is?   its a VP_EYE brand (in windows) off ebay
[06:43] <raxial> batcoder:  I've used Bluefish a few times...it did the job
[06:43] <tritium> Berserkur: sure, and don't forget that thinkwiki.org resource
[06:43] <_2> thomas1978c your card is too new ?   mine is too old.  i know the plite
[06:43] <batcoder-7> you guys like Scite Or  Gedit?
[06:44] <WebcamWonder> gwark: Not sure. I have 0 experience with webcams
[06:44] <gwark> ok thanks :)
[06:44] <newb12345> how can i build an amazon ami image for ubuntu 8.10 server?
[06:44] <gwark> is there a device manager for ubuntu like as in XP  ?
[06:44] <surjeet> hello  canwe  install dot net or not
[06:44] <nickrud> gwark, you could try lsusb, and google the xxxx:xxxx code
[06:44] <thomas1978c> _2 yeah its their latest and greatest creation, the integreatd card. it pulls from my system memory up to 3gb
[06:44] <gwark> awesome Nickrud thankyou
[06:44] <cahaya-05> imoet
[06:45] <simon_r> I've posted the 'w' output, if that helps http://paste.ubuntu.com/111961/
[06:45] <thomas1978c> _2 as soon as I can watch a movie, ill attack trying to load games
[06:45] <thomas1978c> is wine best for that?
[06:46] <nickrud> thomas1978c, xp is best for that
[06:46] <thomas1978c> oh, btw, nexuiz and other linux fps load fine
[06:46] <Berserkur> tritium: Don't worry. I've used it many times. :) The problem is though that the "advanced windows user" is filing bug report's on "Linux" aka ubuntu these days so I find it harder to solve problems when I get stuck
[06:46] <cahaya-06> ce_cute
[06:46] <thomas1978c> nickrud: I have an sli system for that
[06:46] <Berserkur> tritium: but thinkwiki.org it is! :)
[06:47] <_2> gwark the device manager would be the tools that list insert and remove kernel modules, namely: modprobe lsmod rmmod and insmod, that working via udev pretty much makes up the linux device management.    there may be gui tools that will call those same tools for you... idk.
[06:47] <thomas1978c> nickrud: I just wanna play with this card some
[06:47] <tritium> Berserkur: good luck :)
[06:47] <thomas1978c> nickrud; it's a nice card. I wanna see wether linux can use it
[06:47] <nickrud> thomas1978c, I follow you: but I stopped being a gushing first adopter a long time ago. I hate anemia
[06:48] <_2> gwark also if you need information about your hardware, lshw is quite good.
[06:48] <nickrud> thomas1978c, I only got an 8800gt 6 months ago, wanted to be sure it had decent support, first
[06:48] <Alex_21> It worked, thanks
[06:48] <tritium> thomas1978c: which card?
[06:48] <gwark> _2 thanks man   ...... 0c45:613c Microdia     was what I was searching for
[06:49] <Alex_21> Hmm, now the second issue. I just installed yesterday and can't figure out why the sound isn't working. Any ideas?
[06:49] <thomas1978c> tritium, its an ati radeon integrated 3200hd
[06:49] <Berserkur> tritium: I think you very much for actually helping me because I am really drunk. You are one of the guys that help the FSF, OSS, Ubuntu and Linux
[06:50] <tritium> Berserkur: no problem
[06:50] <_2> !sound > Alex_21
[06:50] <_2> Alex_21 you can start there  ^
[06:50] <UpChuck_Norris> Cool, on the sound, I don't have much experience in that area
[06:50] <tritium> thomas1978c: that'd definitely supported already on linux
[06:50] <thomas1978c> that's what they say
[06:50] <UpChuck_Norris> Someone else would probably be better help than me
[06:50] <thomas1978c> but ****ng is all that will work for some reason
[06:51] <thomas1978c> tritium, do you know why?
[06:51] <simon_r> could someone tell me what the cmd at the login of a 2nd terminal is to kill that terminal/session?
[06:51] <Alex_21> Thanks though for your previous assistance Chuck_Noris
[06:51] <tritium> thomas1978c: are your desktop effects disabled?
[06:51] <Alex_21> Thanks though for your previous assistance Chuck_Norus
[06:51] <Alex_21> Thanks though for your previous assistance Chuck_Nores
[06:51] <_2> simon_r exit
[06:52] <Berserkur> tritium: Where are you from anyway? Why are you still up? :D
[06:52] <thomas1978c> tritium, no my windows are juicy
[06:52] <thomas1978c> floppy and cool
[06:52] <tritium> thomas1978c: that may be the problem.  Try disabling desktop effects, and see if that helps.
[06:53] <tritium> Berserkur: I'm always up late.
[06:53] <cahaya-05> hhhhhhhhhhhh
[06:53] <cahaya-05> h
[06:53] <cahaya-05> h
[06:53] <cahaya-05> h
[06:53] <cahaya-05> h
[06:53] <cahaya-05> h
[06:53] <FloodBot1> cahaya-05: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:53] <simon_r> 2: it asks for p/wrd then says incrrt login.  I'm ctrl-alt-f1 to the terminal that I'm trying to end
[06:53] <thomas1978c> tritium, ok
[06:54] <EMPulse> hey guys
[06:54] <EMPulse> does anyone here use privoxy
[06:54] <_2> simon_r you can't kill a login tty.   what is the intent ?
[06:54] <Berserkur> tritium: Well, I'm always up. Even though I have to get up in the morning. Most of the time I only sleep 3-4 hours a night when I'm working
[06:54] <Alex_21> What is the command to shutdown via commandline?
[06:54] <rdw200169> Alex_21, shutdown, or init 0
[06:55] <simon_r> i had a login issue, now have two ttys going. cant shutdown from gui tty (dont know which is which), so think i need to kill one of the ttys
[06:55] <tritium> Alex_21: you need to use sudo with that.
[06:55] <werdnum> Alex_21: shutdown -h now
[06:55] <Berserkur> tritium: Kind of my biggest problem. I alwayis find something good to do when I'm going to sleep
[06:55] <tritium> Berserkur: yep
[06:55] <adam__> whats the shell command that displays hardware again
[06:55] <Berserkur> tritium: which is probably why I'm here right now. Hahahahaha
[06:55] <Alex_21> Ok, so why won't my sound work?
[06:56] <roy_hobbs> anyone using the launchpad ppa for OOo 3?
[06:56] <neeco> alex_21: halt
[06:56] <WebcamWonder> adam__: lshw, lspci (for PCI), lsusb (for USB)
[06:56] <_2> simon_r console tty login is spawn by "init" if you kill it it respawns instantly.   tty7 is normally reserved for the gui   if you are lost in a lower tty try switching to tty7   alt+f7
[06:56] <Alex_21> It is a Powermac G4 and I can't figure out why alsa says there is no sound device detected
[06:56] <thomas1978c> tritium: even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while!!!!! tyvm. I feel numb for all the crap I've gone through.
[06:56] <adam__> WebcamWonder: thanks
[06:56] <neeco> roy_hobbs: yeah
[06:57] <thomas1978c> unbelievable
[06:57] <_2> simon_r also if you need to reset the computer from a tty  try the old three fingured salute   ctrl+alt+del
[06:57] <roy_hobbs> neeco: Do you know what this partial upgrade is all about?
[06:57] <aaroninfidel> hi, can someone help me learn about "themes" in general?
[06:57] <thomas1978c> and here I was installing, uninstalling, drivers, sware
[06:57] <Alex_21> Blind squirl and blind people, ... Smiley, ... Blind_Techie munches on cashoes
[06:57] <thomas1978c> niccce
[06:57] <aaroninfidel> anyone?
[06:57] <thomas1978c> :)
[06:57] <c0l2e> how can I add scripts for logout/shutdown ??
[06:58] <tritium> thomas1978c: that worked?
[06:58] <thomas1978c> yup
[06:58] <tritium> I'm glad.
[06:58] <neeco> how do I run a gnome command (one that needs a session) without running a real session?
[06:58] <gizmo_> i want to ask i cant open my subtitle in dvd player?
[06:58] <nickrud> cahaya-opr, hi
[06:58] <simon_r> 2: i can switch btw. tty2 and tty7. i restarted gdb, but couldnt work in channel 0 as x was already running, so it opened in ch 1. I just want to basically retart the computer
[06:58] <gizmo_> how to handel it
[06:58] <thomas1978c> alex_21: what are cashoes? walking money?
[06:58] <gizmo_> im using ubuntu
[06:58] <rdw200169> c0l2e, add script-links to the init related directories; i.e. /etc/rc*.d/
[06:58] <aaroninfidel> is anyone good with themes?
[06:58] <cahaya-opr> hai halo
[06:59] <tritium> thomas1978c: I think he means "cashews"  ;)
[06:59] <Alex_21> hey all, I want to install a Sound Blaster card in Ubuntu Hardy. I had this working, but I am moving it from my old PC to my PPC machine. How do I install the drivers via CLI
[06:59] <Alex_21> Please
[06:59] <rdw200169> c0l2e, for example, rc0.d is shutdown; rc6.d is reboot
[06:59] <thomas1978c> so now that I have that solved. who knows about webcams in here?
[06:59] <NimbleRabit> Does anyone here convert videos for the iPhone in Ubuntu?  I've been trying every method on the help page and coming up with pretty substandard results.
[06:59] <thomas1978c> tritium, I got that, but I liked the spelling
[06:59] <_2> c0l2e for shutdown scripts are called from  /etc/rc0.d/  and for reboot they are called from /etc/rc6.d/
[06:59] <tritium> thomas1978c: indeed
[06:59] <c0l2e> rdw200169: hmm ok
[06:59] <_2> simon_r also if you need to reset the computer from a tty  try the old three fingured salute   ctrl+alt+del
[06:59] <gizmo_> how to find utf-8 code?
[07:00] <gizmo_> how to install it?
[07:00] <neeco> roy_hobbs: to upgrade or to not upgrade? this is the question...
[07:00] <rdw200169> c0l2e, i'm looking for a good link on this that explains it... gimme a sec.
[07:00] <_2> simon_r or: sudo init 6
[07:00] <gizmo_> how to find utf-8 code?
[07:00] <nickrud> cahaya-06, hi
[07:00] <thomas1978c> tritium, for helping me out, I would be honored if you would let me add you to my contact list?
[07:00] <Alex_21> Cashoes, ... Lol, ... Walking money, ... no, ... sadly, ... Cashews
[07:00] <simon_r> 2: yeah, does nothing, nor does the system>shut down icon...
[07:00] <Berserkur> simon_r: I think the simplest solution to your problem would be to type alt+F8 first but if that doesn't show anything then do a alt+F7 and then type ctrl+alt+backspace
[07:01] <Alex_21> hey all, I want to install a Sound Blaster card in Ubuntu Hardy. I had this working, but I am moving it from my old PC to my PPC machine. How do I install the drivers via CLI
[07:01] <roy_hobbs> neeco: I've got intrepid-proposed enabled.  My update manager finds a bunch of updates but says it can only do 6 of them...  I'm wondering if anyone has seen something like this and if they went ahead with the partial upgrade, or waited
[07:01] <tritium> thomas1978c: sure, be my guest
[07:01] <c0l2e> rdw200169: so I just need to rename it S01halt... to S02halt and add my script as S01myscript to let my script run first??
[07:01] <_2> simon_r there are no icons in console ttys
[07:01] <steve_> hi everybody
[07:01] <EMPulse> hey
[07:02] <sloopy> Alex_21, probly should just work
[07:02] <EMPulse> does anyone know how to delete a folder
[07:02] <EMPulse> that ubuntu won't let you deelte
[07:02] <tritium> EMPulse: rmdir
[07:02] <simon_r> Berserker: alt-f8 tries to grab screen
[07:02] <histo> EMPulse, what folder are you trying to delete?
[07:02] <sloopy> EMPulse, rmdir , or rm -F if not empty
[07:02] <histo> EMPulse, right click on it and check the permissions
[07:02] <simon_r> 2: soory, not sure what a console ttys
[07:02] <Alex_21> Ok, I'll try it
[07:02] <EMPulse> histo, the privoxy folder that I think is causing problems
[07:02] <steve_> someone know if it's possible to install ubuntu in the Amiga 4000?
[07:02] <Alex_21> Be back in a minute
[07:02] <histo> EMPulse, did you remove privoxy?
[07:02] <EMPulse> sloopy, cool thanks
[07:02] <EMPulse> histo, yeah
[07:03] <sloopy> steve_, only debian supports such hardware
[07:03] <_2> simon_r ctrl+alt+f1 takes you to the first console tty
[07:03] <roy_hobbs> EMPulse: fyi, it's directory... folder is a windows term
[07:03] <EMPulse> roy_hobbs, lol sorry
[07:03] <histo> EMPulse, well if its not in your home you have to use sudo most likely
[07:03] <simon_r> 2: yep, and its asking for login and pwd
[07:03] <tritium> EMPulse: don't delete files or folders that belong to packages, or you'll break those packages.  Which directory is it?
[07:03] <simon_r> 2: then alt-f7 takes me to gui
[07:03] <vertx> Hi all, I got this new server that has Windows 2003 Server on it. I like to resize the partition. Is there any utilities to do that through ubuntu/kubuntu?
[07:04] <EMPulse> etc/privoxy
[07:04] <EMPulse> tritium, etc/privoxy
[07:04] <_2> simon_r and you ctrl+alt+del in tty1  "first console tty" ?
[07:04] <roy_hobbs> EMPulse: don't delete that manually
[07:04] <vertx> Ubuntu/Kubuntu live-cd, that is :)
[07:04] <tritium> EMPulse: dont' delete that
[07:04] <roy_hobbs> EMPulse: did you uninstall that software through synaptec?
[07:05] <EMPulse> tritium, privoxy is causing problems and when I try reinstalling it I get "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 privoxy". I'm hoping that clearing the directory might fix the problem
[07:05] <roy_hobbs> synaptic*
[07:05] <rdw200169> c0l2e, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto, and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InitScriptList
[07:05] <Berserkur> simon_r: Sorry, i should have said: Alt+ctrl+f8, but I think the other guys more up to the task to helping you than me.
[07:05] <neeco> roy_hobbs: Menu > System > Administration > Software Sources >> Updates >>> uncheck "Pre-released updates (intrepid-proposed)"
[07:05] <tritium> EMPulse: what problems is it causing?
[07:05] <thomas1978c> ty tritium
[07:05] <tritium> thomas1978c: sure
[07:05] <EMPulse> roy_hobbs, yeah, I removed it with synaptic and the folder's still there
[07:05] <roy_hobbs> EMPulse: Go into Synaptic, find Privoxy, right click in and go to COMPLETE removal
[07:05] <KemrinH> Hello
[07:05] <EMPulse> tritium, privoxy(and tor) aren't working problem with TorK
[07:06] <KemrinH> I am wanting to know a command line entry to play a sound one time
[07:06] <thomas1978c> cool. im logging off and watching a movie!!!! tyvm!
[07:06] <rdw200169> c0l2e, these both have a good bit of the info you need; ask if you have any questions after referring to those; btw, it isn't mentioned, but /etc/init.d is the best place to store the *actual* scripts; you will want to read some of the simpler scripts in there to see how it works
[07:06] <flyback> did some genius remove the floppy driver in ubuntu 8.10
[07:06] <_2> KemrinH what sound ?
[07:06] <tritium> flyback: no
[07:06] <roy_hobbs> EMPulse: alternatively, you can do "sudo apt-get remove --purge privoxy"
[07:06] <flyback> cause I am seriously going to have a long talk with this person
[07:06] <flyback> ok
[07:06] <_2> KemrinH echo -e '\a'
[07:06] <dserver> *quit
[07:06] <Limitt> hey what up ubuntuians
[07:06] <tritium> EMPulse: see roy_hobbs's comment above
[07:06] <EMPulse> roy_hobbs, cool thanks
[07:07] <roy_hobbs> EMPulse: you can also do "sudo apt-get autoremove --purge" to make sure there isn't anything else
[07:07] <KemrinH> _2 It's a you have mail sound, but it must be entered as a command. Will that work? echo -e /a?
[07:07] <flyback> it's telling me /dev/fd0 no suck file
[07:07] <EMPulse> roy_hobbs, ah thanks the folder is gone now\
[07:07] <_2> KemrinH that's just the normal system bell
[07:07] <simon_r> 2 and berserker: thanks both.  that did it!!.
[07:07] <tritium> flyback: is the "floppy" module loaded?
[07:07] <roy_hobbs> directory =P
[07:07] <Limitt> Simple questions here ive already explored everything in ubuntu and it is amazingly simple
[07:07] <tritium> EMPulse: that's because the whole package is uninstalled
[07:07] <simon_r> constant learnin'
[07:07] <_2> KemrinH if you have a sound file you want to play,  aplay /path/to/file
[07:08] <flyback> I didn't know I had to load it manually
[07:08] <Limitt> the layout and everything is so straight forward never experienced an os like it
[07:08] <tritium> flyback: you typically don't.  I'm asking if it is already.
[07:08] <KemrinH> _2 echo -e /a is the normal system bell. aplay /*/*/* will play a sound?
[07:08] <roy_hobbs> Are you sure you've explored everything?
[07:08] <_2> KemrinH yes
[07:08] <rdw200169> c0l2e, woot, check /etc/init.d/README. it gets you started; as does: http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/#contents , in this check "System run levels and init.d scripts"
[07:08] <_2> KemrinH depending on the format of the sound file
[07:08] <EMPulse> tritium, gah this sucks, I still get the "subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 privoxy" during reinstallation. Can't believe Tor is easier to install under windows than in Linux
[07:08] <BlackDalek> anyone know how to make the firewire port work on a Dell Latitude d800 laptop?
[07:09] <Limitt> what im worried about is I just changed to allow third party software in the software sources menu
[07:09] <KemrinH> _2 Thank you very much
[07:09] <Limitt> now i think it would be pretty crazy if it was not the way im thinking
[07:09] <_2> KemrinH welcome
[07:09] <roy_hobbs> BlackDalek: I have a D800 - i've never tried the firewire though - lemme see if it's detected for you
[07:09] <tritium> EMPulse: it's trivial.  I suspect that other TorK, or whatever, may have installed something the tor package would overwrite, hence the error.
[07:09] <Limitt> but when it comes up with system updates in the top right menu the orange flare looking thing will that install updates from the third party section?
[07:09] <c0l2e> rdw200169:  so the /etc/gdm/PostSession is only if users logout.. not shutdown or reboot right?
[07:09] <flyback> just rebooted and confirmed the floppy is working properly
[07:10] <flyback> so ubuntu either removed it
[07:10] <flyback> or something else is up
[07:10] <Limitt> because it seemed i got 152 updates availible shortly after i enabled third party sources in the software sources menu
[07:10] <tritium> flyback: I've told you it's not removed, and I asked you about the module status, and you never replied.
[07:10] <_2> flyback trouble with a floppy drive ?
[07:10] <Limitt> it could have just been weird timing but im not sure
[07:10] <tritium> EMPulse: what was the other software you mentioned, and how did you install it?
[07:10] <EMPulse> tritium, Tork is a package that installs Tor and Privoxy with a GUI. Might as well reformatt the box since everything works better under windows anyway...
[07:10] <roy_hobbs> BlackDalek: my firewire seems to be working fine... what are you trying to use with it?
[07:10] <flyback> tritium, it's rebooting so hang on
[07:10] <flyback> STUPID CANUCK
[07:10] <Marupa> Hi all...quick question.  What's the easiest way to locate a file on a drive that was very recently mounted and locate won't find it?
[07:11] <surjeet> hello  can we  install dot net or not
[07:11] <flyback> sheesh you are more impatient than I am
[07:11] <roy_hobbs> EMPulse: NOOOO
[07:11] <BlackDalek> roy_hobbs, a digital video camera to capture in Kino
[07:11] <Flannel> flyback: Please follow our channel guidelines.
[07:11] <rdw200169> c0l2e, http://library.gnome.org/admin/gdm/2.24/configuration.html.en#scripting
[07:11] <flyback> this isn't reallife either or i'd beat the hell out of you
[07:11] <flyback> but ok
[07:11] <_2> Marupa find
[07:11] <EMPulse> roy_hobbs, lol, getting tired of having my phone not sync properly and a bunch of programs that either has craptastic alternatives in ubuntu or no alternative
[07:12] <Limitt> Quick question--- does the software updates flare ... orange flare looking thing in the top right download stuff from the third party sources you can enable in th 'software sources' menu
[07:12] <roy_hobbs> BlackDalek: hmmm... you might want to google for the specific camera model and linux
[07:12] <Marupa> is find case-insensitive?
[07:12] <neeco> do you know how to run a gnome command (one that needs a session) without running a real session?
[07:13] <Limitt> please help?
[07:13] <raxial> Limitt:  it should
[07:13] <roy_hobbs> Marupa: find /dir -iname "name"
[07:13] <Limitt> is that a bad thing?
[07:13] <Limitt> i want to be secure
[07:13] <surjeet> please help me
[07:13] <neeco> Marupa: find /directory -name '*filename*'
[07:13] <Marupa> roy_hobbs, Thanks
[07:13] <BlackDalek> roy_hobbs, not necessary - I use the same camera with ubuntu on my desktop PC - no problems there. It is only the d800 laptop which refuses to work
[07:13] <_2> Limitt it will fetch from all sources listed in your /etc/apt/sources.list   the latest version from where ever it finds it.   there are controls that can change that
[07:13] <raxial> Limitt:  good thing....good idea to keep updated
[07:13] <arooni_____> what are those 'magic keys', and how do i use them, (the ones that let me stop everything kill problem processes)?  running ubuntu hardy?
[07:13] <Limitt> and all the updates seemed to pop up shortly after I selected to enable third party sources
[07:13] <rdw200169> !ask | neeco
[07:14] <surjeet> hello  can we  install dot net or not
[07:14] <Limitt> well security wise is it safe to enable the third party sources that ubuntu lists
[07:14] <Limitt> that are not enabled by default
[07:14] <roy_hobbs> BlackDalek: Silly question, but are you sure it's enabled in the BIOS?  "sudo lshw" should list your firewire device... you should check that first
[07:14] <Limitt> could there possibly be malicious third party software?
[07:14] <arooni_____> what is trackered   4603 chasetoy  39  19 30964 9.9m 2284 S   98  0.3   0:31.06 trackerd
[07:14] <neeco> rdw20016 / ubottu: fine, my 3rd time on irc...
[07:15] <Limitt> Do I have to reinstall ubuntu now?
[07:15] <_2> Limitt yes and no.   no computer connected to any network is safe and much less the ones that can be publicly accessed.   but relatively safe   yes.
[07:15] <Limitt> I mean i ticked the third party sources and just did an update all
[07:15] <tritium> Limitt: no
[07:15] <jtaji> Limitt: the only one in there not enabled by default is the partner repo, and yes it's safe
[07:15] <jtaji> Limitt: if anything other repo is listed there, you have added it
[07:16] <jtaji> s/anything/any/
[07:16] <surjeet> how to give permisen read and write folder
[07:16] <BlackDalek> roy_hobbs, it seems to list it in lshw.. I think
[07:16] <_2> surjeet chmod
[07:16] <Limitt> right but the third party wasnt enabled by default .. couldnt anyone write apps and put it in third party
[07:16] <raxial> surjeet:   terminal....sudo.....chmod 777 /folder
[07:16] <Limitt> thanks for the help so far
[07:16] <Limitt> great community here
[07:16] <_2> surjeet both mine and raxial's answer assume that it's a linux file system
[07:17] <Alex_21> Ok, sound now works with a new soundcard
[07:17] <Alex_21> Soundblaster Live
[07:17] <Limitt> sooo if im worried about security and I just updated everything without checking what I updated should I worry that I recently enabled third party software?
[07:17] <hednod> any problems with the wireless stack in intrepid that are not in the latest intrepid repos? have a friend who is getting "packet too big" errors trying to associate with any access point using encryption.
[07:17] <roy_hobbs> Limitt: you just need to decide if you trust that particular third party
[07:17] <Alex_21> Installed in a G4 Powermac
[07:18] <raheem> Alex_21: good to hear that :)
[07:18] <hednod> found scattered bug reports but nothing that nails it down
[07:18] <_2> Limitt that's part of the beauty of "FOSS" it's open to the whole world to critique
[07:18] <Limitt> well i just ran all the updates from the dialog that popped up in the top right corner/
[07:18] <roy_hobbs> Limitt: you're not enabling ALL third parties, just whichever repos you enable specifically
[07:18] <Alex_21> I need to stop that software update stuff on the top. I already ran Sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade
[07:19] <Limitt> ok so are the updates that pop in the orange box anything and everything or just ubuntu approved canotical updates
[07:19] <_2> Limitt no and no.
[07:20] <Flannel> Limitt: Its all updates for the things you have in the repositories.  If you add no third party updates, then it's all 'official' updates, but they don't all come from canonical.
[07:20] <ushdf_> hello! i am looking for help with sudo!!
[07:20] <_2> Limitt again.   have a look in /etc/apt/sources.list   you can learn alot from there.
[07:20] <tritium> ushdf_: what about it?
[07:20] <ushdf_> i am wondering how there are privileges!@!!
[07:21] <raxial> ushdf:  ummm what?
[07:21] <ushdf_> how do i use sudo as root user!!
[07:21] <tritium> ushdf_: users are added to the "admin" group, which have sudo priveleges
[07:21] <GuaranaBOMB> .
[07:21] <ushdf_> what does that mean!
[07:21] <tritium> ushdf_: you don't.
[07:21] <raxial> ushdf:  no need....you are root user
[07:21] <ushdf_> not yet!!
[07:21] <bruenig> raxial: he isn't the root user, don't lie
[07:21] <tritium> ushdf_: sudo -i
[07:21] <neeco> how do I keep the network not disconnecting at logout?
[07:21] <ushdf_> what does this have to do with awk!!!
[07:21] <Limitt> ok so.. http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner is all safe?
[07:21] <GuaranaBOMB> lulz
[07:22] <Berserkur> surjeet: Just doing chmod 777 <folder> is very wrong in many cases. Think about who you want to give access
[07:22] <tritium> ushdf_: you asked about sudo, not awk
[07:22] <Limitt> it was under the third party software
[07:22] <_2> ushdf_ super user doesn't need sudo.     sudo == superuser do
[07:22] <ushdf_> i am looking to install unbutu for something enterprise privileges!!!
[07:22] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: Calm down
[07:22] <roy_hobbs> Limitt: I would consider all of the sources in the "Software Sources" GUI reasonably safe.  You just need to use your good judgment when choosing to add your own source.  I personally have added medibuntu and a ppa for openoffice.org 3
[07:22] <ushdf_> please explain how this functions!!!
[07:22] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: What are you trying to do?
[07:22] <tritium> ushdf_: we just did
[07:22] <ushdf_> i am trying to user sudo to open mysql shell through a series of unix pipes!!!
[07:22] <bruenig> _2: root is the super user
[07:22] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: man chmod may contain the information you're wanting.
[07:23] <ushdf_> what is super user??
[07:23] <HellB0y> ¾È³çÇÏ¼¼¿ä^^*
[07:23] <Berserkur> surjeet: If you don't want someone to read you files then read both chmod and chown man pages. "man chmod" and man chown" without the quotes in a terminal
[07:23] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: superman for your computer
[07:23] <ushdf_> is that when you get really good??
[07:23] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: It can do anything
[07:23] <_2> bruenig no.   superuser is uid=0 reguardless of name.
[07:23] <tritium> ushdf_: when using pipes with sudo, you often need to use the "tee" command as well.
[07:23] <tritium> !sudo | ushdf_
[07:23] <ushdf_> i am looking to install interactive intercal shell!!
[07:23] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: Huh?
[07:23] <baz> how can i know what version of a software apt-get is going to install?
[07:23] <Berserkur> surjeet: If there is something you don't understand then please ask
[07:23] <bruenig> _2: I misread your statement
[07:23] <Limitt> technically what is the http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu intrepid partner repo listed under 'third-party software'
[07:23] <ushdf_> i cannot believe how rudely i am treated!!!
[07:23] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: http://www.google.com might be helpful
[07:24] <nickrud> baz apt-cache policy <package>
[07:24] <roy_hobbs> tritium: great tip!
[07:24] <tritium> ushdf_: you are being helped
[07:24] <nickrud> ushdf_, your questions aren't very clear ....
[07:24] <ushdf_> god helps those who help themselevs!!!!!!
[07:24] <tritium> roy_hobbs: :)
[07:24] <roccity_> wow what did i miss?
[07:24] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: Now follow that statement.
[07:24] <Limitt> I mean is it software that canonical looks through first for safety then adds
[07:24] <Alex_21> Is GNash the same as Flash?
[07:24] <Alex_21> Please
[07:24] <ushdf_> i did 'man touch!" and was vastly uncomfortable with results!!!
[07:24] <Limitt> or is it software that anyone can add to and post
[07:24] <_2> bruenig one could say "the default superuser is root"   but to arbitrarily  call root superuser  would be a grave error, especially on my ssystem.
[07:24] <baz> nickrud, that worked nicely, thanks
[07:24] <Limitt> be it malicious or what/
[07:25] <ushdf_> i opened the interactive intercal sudo shell and my partitioning scheme was erasive!
[07:25] <bruenig> So I am trying to create a deb package, but I want it to be part of a group of packages, how do I do this
[07:25] <tritium> ushdf_: stay on topic
[07:25] <SquareHimself> ushdf_: What did you do?
[07:25] <Alex_21> Gnash
[07:25] <roccity_> ushdf_, whats going on?
[07:25] <Alex_21> Anyone?
[07:25] <Limitt> come on.. security is real important to me
[07:26] <roy_hobbs> Limitt: No, they aren't open sources.
[07:26] <ushdf_> i lost all the photos of my mammogram!!
[07:26] <_2> ushdf_ you sound for ever more like an advanced uperlevel troll
[07:26] <nickrud> Limitt, if it's in an official ubuntu repo, or uses canonical as the repo (like the partner ones) they're as safe as you're gonna get
[07:26] <UpChuck_Norris> Gnash is the open source version of Adobe flash player, It works in most cases but it does not alway display flash applets 100% correctly
[07:26] <Alex_21> Ok, good
[07:26] <Limitt> roy_hobbs could you be a littl more specific in what you were saying? im still a lil confused
[07:26] <Flannel> Limitt: "main" is the only component canonical personally touches the code on.
[07:26] <UpChuck_Norris> For general use it should work fine
[07:26] <Alex_21> Because that is all that is available for PPC
[07:27] <roccity_> ushdf you deleted them or are they in the trash
[07:27] <SquareHimself> roccity_: I think he got the boot.
[07:27] <Limitt> Flannel: could I pm you?
[07:27] <Alex_21> Thanks so much. I now have a new fully working system
[07:27] <_2> roccity_ we're late. tritium took care of him
[07:27] <Flannel> Limitt: The channel is generally a better place to ask questions.
[07:27] <roccity_> SquareHimself, so he deleted photos and wanted them back?
[07:27] <Alex_21> Also, what do I need to compile packages from source?
[07:27] <Flannel> Limitt: but, if you think its necessary, sure.
[07:27] <Limitt> this chat moves so fast and I have a couple very simple questions
[07:28] <ammage_> hi there
[07:28] <Berserkur> "What is superuser - 07:23-19 < _2> bruenig no.   superuser is uid=0 reguardless of name. _____---_____ Really bad advise/explaining if my may be critical :S
[07:28] <roccity_> SquareHimself, I also miss the good stuff :)
[07:28] <tritium> _2: He's a frequent troll.
[07:28] <ammage_> what is the command name for screenlet?
[07:28] <_2> tritium and quite proficent at times
[07:28] <ammage_> i want to install using terminal
[07:28] <roccity_> ammage_, you can try giving the full path /usr/bin/sceenlet
[07:29] <Alex_21> I need to compile gnome-globalmenu
[07:29] <_2> Berserkur why so ?
[07:29] <Alex_21> And I need a compiler and a SVN CLI program. Any suggestions?
[07:29] <ammage_> do u meat sudo apt-get install screenlet?
[07:29] <roccity_> ammage_, try aptitude search screenlets
[07:29] <Flannel> Alex_21: `sudo apt-get install subversion` will give you svn
[07:29] <Alex_21> Because I am trying to make it look like OS X
[07:29] <Alex_21> Smiley
[07:29] <roccity_> and then aptitude or apt-get install
[07:30] <Berserkur> _2: Becouse to most users that doesn't mean anything. uid=0 is like uid=1000
[07:30] <rccu> hey i need some help destroying my friends ubuntu system completely what is the best way to do this?
[07:30] <nickrud> Alex_21, oh, you almost got kicked :) sudo apt-get install build-essential for the compiler
[07:30] <Berserkur> _2: Completely different for the system but the same to the user
[07:30] <Gnea> rccu: you're some friend...
[07:30] <roccity_> ammage_, may I ask why you want to install to from the cli
[07:30] <roy_hobbs> rccu: fire
[07:30] <ammage_> ok i get it.. its screenlets, not screenlet
[07:30] <_2> Berserkur well the fellow seemed to understand.
[07:30] <buntulover64> omg i m lik just now usin a nu bunut install an i am in luv!!11! <3
[07:30] <Berserkur> _2: Well, My bad then :D
[07:30] <ammage_> roccity_: i like to use terminal
[07:31] <Alex_21> Why did I just about get kicked?
[07:31] <buntulover64> my wierless duznt wrk tho
[07:31] <buntulover64> work*
[07:31] <nickrud> Alex_21, a joke, about looking like osx :)
[07:31] <Alex_21> And I am installing from CLI because I am blind, so Visual interfaces mean very little
[07:32] <Alex_21> And what is wrong with making it look like OS X
[07:32] <roccity_> ammage_, that's cool just asking
[07:32] <buntulover64> umm wirleess halp plz!
[07:32] <Alex_21> It can't be wrong?
[07:32] <simulation> hello memory_get_peak_usage() reachs to 9 MB while resamling 1024*768 px and 300 KB image on my shared hosting. When processing bigger images peak value reachs 100MB 200MBs is that normal do u think ?
[07:32] <ammage_> roccity_: can i set my connection auto connect to DSL?
[07:32] <_2> Alex_21 being wrong is not allowed in this channel.
[07:32] <buntulover64> i need wirelesss halp!
[07:32] <simulation> normal memory usage is 370 KB peak is 8MB
[07:32] <Losowski> good morning friends
[07:32] <Gnea> buntulover64: please spell correctly, this isn't #lolcats. and explain your problem if you would like help.
[07:32] <_2> :)
[07:32] <buntulover64> my wireless don work!!!111
[07:32] <nickrud> Alex_21, :)
[07:32] <ammage_> becoz when my ubuntu start, its keeping create a new connection (auth0)
[07:33] <Gnea> !ask | buntulover64
[07:33] <neeco> how to prevent lock-ups switching to Guest user on a Radeon based laptop? (other than using unaccellerated graphic drivers)
[07:33] <buntulover64> i thot ubuntu was supossed 2 be good 2 go form teh start? liek no problms with wierless and sutff!!
[07:34] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,  wireless wouldbe less of a problem is the driver makers worked with linux
[07:34] <_2> i thot i saw a putty tat
[07:34] <buntulover64> Dr_willis - how duz taht halp me?
[07:34] <edward_> hey dudes lil help?
[07:35] <rdw200169> buntulover64, *most of the time* wireless works; problems come up when a wireless card's drivers are un-available or require proprietary means
[07:35] <buntulover64> Dr_willis i dont need taht crap i jus need my wierless to work!!!
[07:35] <_2> buntulover64 it would help us help you if you wrote something we could read.
[07:35] <Gnea> edward_: with?
[07:35] <buntulover64> im sorry im not good typing.
[07:35] <Gnea> well, please learn good typing.
[07:35] <Tekumel> !ask | edward_
[07:35] <buntulover64> and i dont speek good englsh
[07:35] <tritium> buntulover64: please don't be rude, either.
[07:35] <Gnea> you look like someone who should be using windows and aol when you type that way
[07:35] <edward_> just installed intrepid 8.10 on my dell x1300/x1500 ati pc
[07:35] <edward_> cant get the special effects
[07:35] <edward_> :(
[07:35] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,  we dont need the ranting either...  you havent really said much in the way of 'facts' to help us trouble shoot the problem - that ive seen
[07:36] <Gnea> !effects | edward_
[07:36] <buntulover64> DR_willis it just dont work!
[07:36] <rdw200169> edward_, do you have a taskbar icon telling you that restricted drivers are available?
[07:36] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,  guess it dosent work then... sorry to hear that..
[07:36] <buntulover64> but i need halp!
[07:36] <bruenig> buntulover64: there are channels for people who can't speak english
[07:36] <edward_> no, i believe i installed all that
[07:36] <Gnea> edward_: errr, that wasn't the right one, sorry - try System->Preferences->Appearances, then the tab on the far-right
[07:36] <buntulover64> bruenig but i can speek okay
[07:37] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,  tell the channel the chipset, the machine, what you have tried...  and so forth
[07:37] <buntulover64> bruenig just not real good is all
[07:37] <bruenig> buntulover64: did you instal the sudo grep yet?
[07:37] <buntulover64> dr_willis how do i do that?
[07:37] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,   tere are other channels with different languages also.
[07:37] <buntulover64> bruenig wat is sudo greb
[07:37] <buntulover64> ?
[07:37] <roccity_> is there a way to get a minimal install using hte server cd?
[07:37] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,  for starters i would say read up at the !wireless factoid docs
[07:37] <bruenig> buntulover64: it is like grep but with sudo
[07:37] <Dr_willis> !wireless | buntulover64
[07:37] <aaroninfidel> is it a bad idea to delete qt 4?
[07:37] <buntulover64> bruenig wat is taht?
[07:37] <roccity_> like if I do apt-get gnome will it just pull the main apps?
[07:38] <edward_> 'Desktop Effects could not be enabled' when i choose 'Extra' option
[07:38] <rdw200169> roccity_, the base server install; i.e. no selected tasksel packages (like LAMP etc...) is pretty much about as 'minimal' as you can get
[07:38] <buntulover64> dr_willis i dont wannna read crap now i jus want my wierless working
[07:38] <bruenig> buntulover64: lolwut
[07:38] <buntulover64> bruenig lolwut wat?
[07:38] <rdw200169> edward_, chances are you're not running using the ati drivers; probably vesa driver
[07:38] <Gnea> edward_: could you please pastebin your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log files?
[07:38] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,  good luck then.. you dont know what wireless chipset you have.. that page i belive tells you how to get the information. Im not going to read it to you. Have a nice day.
[07:38] <lstarnes> aaroninfidel: many programs require it, especially ones that are part of KDE 4
[07:39] <rdw200169> Gnea, thanks, i was just typing that too ;)
[07:39] <edward_> ok want me to paste here or pm?
[07:39] <roccity_> rdw200169, but what about gnome cause if I install ubuntu-desktop its gonna pull heaps down
[07:39] <rdw200169> !paste | edward_
[07:39] <bruenig> buntulover64: I apologize for Dr_willis, he is usually helpful
[07:39] <aaroninfidel> lstarnes, I'm running xubuntu... so would you recommend I leave it?
[07:39] <CrownAmbassador> Morning guys! Where can I download the Jaunty torrent? Want to use Transmission to download it. Preferably from a mirror in South Africa.
[07:39] <jtaji> roccity_: just grab the minimal cd
[07:39] <buntulover64> dr_willis i have to use consule?
[07:39] <Dr_willis> bruenig,  Yep.  when i ant get any relal info to get to the problem and have to play 20 questions.. i get grumpy
[07:39] <buntulover64> bruenig thx
[07:39] <surjeet> hi
[07:40] <lstarnes> aaroninfidel: you might not need it with xubuntu since xfce uses gtk, but you might have a couple programs installed that require it
[07:40] <buntulover64> bruenig can you halp em?
[07:40] <surjeet> what is GNOME
[07:40] <bruenig> buntulover64: we try to create a helpful community here, but you can't keep all of the scrooges out
[07:40] <buntulover64> me*
[07:40] <Dr_willis> buntulover64,  yes console/text based commands will proberly be needed to trouble shoot the problem.
[07:40] <buntulover64> how do i use consule?
[07:40] <edward_> heres the first paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/111965/
[07:40] <buntulover64> i dont know about it
[07:40] <buntulover64> dir does not wrok
[07:40] <buntulover64> work*
[07:40] <Gnea> bruenig: that's really not necessary.
[07:41] <nathanhelp> (20:35:40) nathanhelp: Ok I've successfully got my Ubuntu Grub repaired. Now how do I bring it back to single boot (i.e. no menu)
[07:41] <aaroninfidel> lstarnes, any idea on how I can tell what uses it?
[07:41] <lstarnes> buntulover64: it doesn't use the same commands as windows's command prompt.  Try ls
[07:41] <GuaranaBOMB> awwwwwww
[07:41] <bruenig> Gnea: nou
[07:41] <_2> !cli > buntulover64
[07:41] <GuaranaBOMB> look at all these internet addicts up at 1:40am, and 2:40am
[07:41] <GuaranaBOMB> :)
[07:41] <edward_> heres the 2nd
[07:41] <edward_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/111966/
[07:41] <_2> buntulover64 an over view of commands
[07:41] <Dr_willis> GuaranaBOMB,  i work 3rd shift. its my Lunch time.
[07:41] <buntulover64> how to see private message?
[07:42] <GuaranaBOMB> heh
[07:42] <nathanhelp> buntulover64: It should have come up as a separate window
[07:42] <jtaji> buntulover64: really?, because dir works fine on my ubuntu install
[07:42] <GuaranaBOMB> _2
[07:42] <GuaranaBOMB> how can you suffice?
[07:42] <GuaranaBOMB> dialup in 2009??
[07:42] <tritium> GuaranaBOMB: it's a world-wide channel.  It's midday in parts of the world.
[07:42] <FloodBot1> GuaranaBOMB: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:42] <buntulover64> ok, sum 1 told me rm -rf / --no-preserve-root and i run
[07:42] <roccity_> jtaji, the alternate doesn't have commad line system anymore
[07:42] <buntulover64> but its jus crap
[07:42] <nickrud> !danger
[07:42] <roccity_> I don't think
[07:43] <roccity_> jtaji, unless there is another cd
[07:43] <jtaji> !minimal | roccity_
[07:43] <GuaranaBOMB> _2, you must get broadband
[07:43] <GuaranaBOMB> life = better
[07:43] <nathanhelp> Ok I've successfully got my Ubuntu Grub repaired. Now how do I bring it back to single boot (i.e. no menu)
[07:43] <lstarnes> aaroninfidel: for currently installed packages, try apt-cache rdepends --installed libqt4-core
[07:43] <GuaranaBOMB> gears of war 2 time now
[07:43] <_2> GuaranaBOMB nah,  i'm imune to DoS attacks.... :)
[07:44] <rdw200169> edward_, ah, lines 579-587 are your problem :(
[07:44] <roccity_> jtaji, ok didn't know bout that one sorry getting it now
[07:44] <roccity_> jtaji, ty
[07:44] <jtaji> roccity_: no prob, no reason to be sorry ;)
[07:45] <roccity_> is there a portage like system for debian?
[07:45] <edward_> fill me in
[07:45] <edward_> :P
[07:45] <roccity_> I know that slack has emerde
[07:45] <Gnea> roccity_: to use bsd packages?
[07:45] <roccity_> Gnea, any
[07:45] <_2> GuaranaBOMB so how are things in ga ?
[07:45] <Gnea> roccity_: nafaik... the only portage i know is in bsd that helps linux programs work on it
[07:46] <Dr_willis> nathanhelp,  theres a menu.lst option to hide the grub menu.. but i never hide the thing
[07:46] <Gnea> roccity_: there are, however, repositories that exist that you can manually add that will provide more programs
[07:46] <edward_> rdw wtf did i do
[07:46] <Gnea> !medibuntu
[07:46] <nathanhelp> I dont want to hide it, I want to delete my XP entry (which was on a separate HD but no longer exists in my case).
[07:46] <aaroninfidel> lstarnes, ah, its because I have skype! :P thanks a bunch!
[07:47] <rdw200169> edward_, i dunno, i'm doing a little googling
[07:47] <raxial> it's 4:20 somewhere on this planet....
[07:47] <baz> i want to give myself permission to a folder... this command doesn't seem to work: sudo chmod -rw /var/www
[07:47] <edward_> no 3d accleration available
[07:47] <roccity_> Gnea, nah I ment that compile and checked deps
[07:47] <edward_> fk
[07:47] <edward_> hrm
[07:47] <c0l2e> in /etc/init.d/rc6.d and rc0.d ... which will run first the S01halt or my script link call S20myscript ??
[07:47] <roccity_> Gnea, it;s ok I can compile from source
[07:47] <rww> c0l2e: S01
[07:47] <Gnea> baz: try this:  sudo chmod 775 /var/www
[07:47] <Limitt> what repos are trustable to download from
[07:48] <Gnea> roccity_: o!
[07:48] <aaroninfidel> lstarnes, just 1 more question... you seem to know a lot about linux, I'm just a basic user... what would you recommend on how to learn more about linux to become an advanced user?
[07:48] <nathanhelp> Dr_willis: Sorry I dont know if you read that so I'll address it to you. I dont want to hide the menu (sorry it was by bad wording), I want to delete my XP entry (which was on a separate HD but no longer exists in my case).
[07:48] <Gnea> !compile
[07:48] <edward_> my bro has an extra one
[07:48] <surjeet> hi , can we install .net or not
[07:48] <edward_> cept i think it might b nvidia
[07:48] <edward_> lots of problems with nvidia cards right?
[07:48] <marco__> !list
[07:48] <Gnea> roccity_: just install a few packages shown at that URL and you're set for tgz/cvs/svn/etc
[07:48] <lstarnes> aaroninfidel: I can't recall anything in particular
[07:49] <c0l2e> rww: are you sure?
[07:49] <lstarnes> surjeet: you could try using mono
[07:49] <aaroninfidel> lstarnes, ok, thanks again!
[07:49] <roccity_> is there a way to change deb cflags?
[07:49] <roccity_> Gnea, how do you mean?
[07:49] <rww> c0l2e: scripts in /etc/rc#.d/ are run in increasing order, beginning with 01.
[07:49] <baz> Gnea, that seemed to improve things but I still cant drag a file into the sftp session
[07:50] <c0l2e> I tried to create a S01myscript... which unmount things in my Samba server before the networkmanager stops... but the things is the S02halt i think runs first before my S01myscript
[07:50] <Dr_willis> nathanhelp,  thats even easier.. in the menu.lst file towards the end.. should be an 'entry' for it..  delete those 3 lines or so.. and it will be gone
[07:50] <Dr_willis> nathanhelp,  backyp your menu.lst of course first :) just in case
[07:50] <nathanhelp> General question: package != binary?
[07:50] <rww> nathanhelp: not necessarily, no
[07:50] <raxial> can anyone recommend a good pen test package?
[07:50] <rdw200169> edward_, any chance you nkow what chipsets you have in your laptop?  do 8285P or E7205 Intel ring any bells?  your error is referred to in this page: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide
[07:50] <surjeet> lstarnes acctuly i wanna install .net if any case this is possible then tell me what is proccess
[07:51] <sumone> why ubuntu hires illiterate persons?
[07:51] <lstarnes> surjeet: sudo apt-get install mono
[07:51] <edward_> im running on desktop
[07:51] <surjeet> please
[07:51] <Gnea> baz: try this then:  find /var/www -type d -exec chmod 775 {} \;
[07:51] <edward_> and how would i find that out rdw
[07:51] <_2> sumone who is hired ?
[07:51] <nathanhelp> Dr_willis: Thanks. :) where would i find menu.lst? (what tool would i use to find this *any* specific file?)
[07:51] <raxial> who's hiring?
[07:51] <_2> !patience
[07:51] <Dr_willis> nathanhelp,  'locate filemane'  => its in /boot/grub/  :)
[07:51] <raxial> :)
[07:51] <baz> Gnea, if I don't sudo I get the error: find /var/www -type d -exec chmod 775 {} \;
[07:52] <rdw200169> edward_, alright, then do you know if your motherboards have either of those?  and yes, if you see that link, they refer to those chipsets causing *that particular problem* and provide the fix; i want to make sure, first, that you have one of those.  we may be able to solve this really quickly
[07:52] <baz> Gnea, oops I mean: chmod: changing permissions of `/var/www': Operation not permitted
[07:52] <nathanhelp> Dr_willis: Locate is a terminal command or GUI program?
[07:52] <Dr_willis> nathanhelp,  terminal command. :)
[07:52] <edward_> ok
[07:52] <Gnea> roccity_: ubuntu as this nifty feature that allows you to install just a few meta-packages that will install a bunch of packages that will setup the basics for compiling things
[07:52] <edward_> let me see
[07:52] <_2> baz you'll have to sudo chmod or sudo chown   if you don't own it
[07:53] <Gnea> baz: sorry, use sudo with that
[07:53] <Flannel> !mirrors | Limitt
[07:53] <nathanhelp> Dr_willis: Thanks :)
[07:53] <Derf_the> On which channel should I ask for help with a locked-up Ubuntu desktop?
[07:53] <sumone> so why an illiterate person is in charge of text for an official ubuntu page?
[07:53] <surjeet>  answer is this in terminal Package mono has no installation candidate
[07:53] <Gnea> Derf_the: here.
[07:53] <Dr_willis> !mono
[07:53] <Dr_willis> I thought Mono was installed by default as part of gnome.
[07:53] <_2> sumone what official page ?
[07:54] <raxial> Derf_the:  have you tried  ctrl-alt-backspace to reload your desktop?
[07:54] <surjeet> hi friend r there
[07:54] <_2> bazhang good call.  but i think he was trying to bring attention to a mistake on the wiki maybe...   "admittedly the wrong approach"
[07:55] <edward_> having a tough time trying to figure how i find out the chipset
[07:55] <edward_> lol
[07:55] <surjeet> i have used ur seggetion after then answer is this Package mono has no installation candidate
[07:55] <rdw200169> edward_, what computer/motherboard (for a homebuild computer) i can try to find it
[07:55] <lstarnes> surjeet: I saw
[07:55] <aaroninfidel> anyone use xmms2?
[07:55] <_2> edward_   chipset on what ?
[07:55] <Dr_willis> !info monodevelop
[07:56] <surjeet> have any another way??????
[07:57] <_2> edward_  which lshw || sudo apt-get install lshw ;lshw | less
[07:58] <_2> edward_ generic answer to "how to find out the chip set"
[07:58] <edward_> yea
[07:58] <edward_> ok put that in the terminal?
[07:58] <lstarnes> surjeet: try sudo apt-get install mono-common mono-runtime
[07:58] <_2> edward_  which lshw || sudo apt-get install lshw ;lshw | less # <<< that whole line
[07:58] <lstarnes> surjeet: you might also want to include monodevelop with that
[07:58] <_2> minus your name
[07:58] <kriyas> any one know how to transfer a file from one system to another using terminal
[07:58] <nathanhelp> Where can i find commands for Ubuntu?
[07:58] <Spark_rd2> Hello
[07:58] <prince_jammys> !ssh > kriyas
[07:59] <_2> !cli | nathanhelp
[07:59] <nathanhelp> thanks _2
[07:59] <edward_> 'should not run this program as a super user'
[07:59] <_2> welcome
[07:59] <kriyas> how to learn linux commands
[07:59] <bazhang> also !rute
[07:59] <_2> edward_ that's ok.
[08:00] <nathanhelp> _2: lol "sudo gobbledegook blah_blah -w -t -f aWkward/ComBinationOf/mixedCase/underscores_strokes/and.dots" Thats about how im feeling atm :D
[08:00] <edward_>  product: 82P965/G965 Memory Controller Hub
[08:00] <_2> bazhang rute-book is quite good,   but heavy for a beginner
[08:00] <baz> Gnea, chown'ing worked... I wonder why chmod'ing didn't... linux user management is always very strange
[08:00] <nathanhelp> !rute
[08:01] <Diehardy> howdy
[08:01] <edward_> 82P965/G965
[08:01] <edward_> ?
[08:01] <ackbahr> Hi! Is there a way to copy printer settings from one computer to another?
[08:01] <Derf_the> hanks Gnea, I have a 'desktop' that is locked -ignores mouse clicks- and will only show the wallpaper, no files are displayed. When I look at the file "desktop" using a file manager everything is still there.  The permissions are the standard 755's and this behaviour was unchanged by the upgradeing from U8.04 to U8.10.  Any hints as to how to get back to normal? [on a HP8510w]
[08:02] <itachi> hello
[08:02] <itachi> my name is itachi
[08:02] <Diehardy> i see
[08:02] <nathanhelp> Hello, My alias is nathanhelp.
[08:03] <Diehardy> im taking a shit as i chat with u all
[08:03] <edward_> 82P965 rdw
[08:03] <edward_> thats the one i got
[08:03] <itachi> nathanhelp: do you have ym ?
[08:03] <bazhang> http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com/download.html _2 this is one is geared more towards newer users, nathanhelp and kriyas might appreciate
[08:03] <_2> nathanhelp i know the feeling.    nathanhelp any command you see posted and don't know what it does try looking at the man page for it, to get a general idea.    example: someone says to you run   sudo chown -R $USER $HOME   # you can use thses unquoted commands to see what it would do... "man sudo"  "man chown"  "echo $USER $HOME"  the last one will simply expand the raciables so you can see what they contain.
[08:03] <nathanhelp> thanks bazhang.
[08:03] <surjeet>  hi friend  answer is this Reading package lists... Done
[08:03] <surjeet> Building dependency tree
[08:03] <surjeet> Reading state information... Done
[08:03] <surjeet> mono-common is already the newest version.
[08:03] <surjeet> mono-runtime is already the newest version.
[08:03] <FloodBot1> surjeet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:03] <surjeet> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 241 not upgraded.
[08:03] <kj4> enough of this shit-chat
[08:04] <Diehardy> lol
[08:04] <_2> s=raciables=variables=   even
[08:04] <nathanhelp> Up until a week ago i didnt know what man was :)
[08:04] <lstarnes> surjeet: in that case, you should be able to use mono already
[08:04] <raxial> oi
[08:04] <_2> got off home key there....
[08:04] <DigitalKiwi> s/man was/men were
[08:04] <DigitalKiwi> amirite?
[08:04] <itachi> raxial: what ?
[08:05] <surjeet> than how can we check ???????? please
[08:05] <edward_> rdw
[08:05] <baz> I am being given the following instruction "make sure that the following directories (and the files within) are writable for the webserver"... How can I determine this (thru command-line)?
[08:05] <lstarnes> surjeet: mono --version
[08:05] <raxial> s'all good....reacted typed thought.....thanks :)
[08:05] <itachi> edward_: do you have ym ?
[08:05] <_2> nathanhelp yes,  i just trying to make your linux experance a little more "sensable"
[08:05] <edward_> whats ym?
[08:05] <surjeet> whare we run mono --version
[08:06] <lstarnes> surjeet: in a terminal
[08:06] <DigitalKiwi> baz: ls -ahl lists permissions
[08:06] <lstarnes> surjeet: if that returns anything besides "command not found", then you have mono
[08:06] <nathanhelp> _2: thanks. it does help. :)
[08:06] <itachi> edward_: yahoo messenger
[08:06] <ackbahr> By the way, I remember using something like "chmod s+u" to allow unprivileged users (i.e. my wife) to unmount for example a CDrom.... Does that ringa bell with anyone?
[08:06] <edward_> no
[08:06] <edward_> i dont
[08:06] <edward_> i have aim?
[08:06] <raxial> I'm adding all kinds of cool commands to my note file....ls -ahl....thanks DigitalKiwi
[08:07] <itachi> hello, i have a problem with my Ubuntu yet
[08:07] <aaroninfidel> what would you rather use? rhythmbox or gxmms2?
[08:07] <_2> nathanhelp you've heard the saying "give a man a fish..."  well i'm "teaching you to fish"
[08:07] <DigitalKiwi> don't forget --color=auto -F
[08:07] <baz> DigitalKiwi, so now how can I know what *user* the webservers uses
[08:08] <nathanhelp> _2 yeah. I regularly use that phrase. I've been on and off Ubuntu for the past year. I'm starting to get the hang of simple things, but Windows is still very much a part of how i do things...
[08:08] <itachi> my ubuntu cannot sharing
[08:08] <DigitalKiwi> what webserver? :)
[08:08] <itachi> kacau
[08:08] <_2> nathanhelp understood.   rome wasn't built in a day,  it only burned in one.
[08:08] <raji> hi
[08:09] <nathanhelp> #pidgin
[08:09] <surjeet>  hi friend here i got thisMono JIT compiler version 1.9.1 (tarball)
[08:09] <surjeet> Copyright (C) 2002-2007 Novell, Inc and Contributors. www.mono-project.com
[08:09] <surjeet> 	TLS:           __thread
[08:09] <surjeet> 	GC:            Included Boehm (with typed GC)
[08:09] <surjeet> 	SIGSEGV:       altstack
[08:09] <FloodBot1> surjeet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:10] <lstarnes> surjeet: you have mono installed
[08:11] <surjeet> ok dear u r right but how can i check  my dotnet is install and where option
[08:11] <DigitalKiwi> each time someone pastes four lines it becomes six lines? =D
[08:12] <i3d> anyone knows how to verify signature using M2Crypto?
[08:12] <_2> !u
[08:12] <Derf_the> Gnea Hi again , This is my first time here. Will anyone be likly to answer that question of mine now that it has disappeared off the top of the screen some minutes ago?
[08:12] <Gauntlet> My ubuntu is booting in a resolution higher than my screen can have and its out of range. How can I change the default boot resolution in windows?
[08:13] <nathanhelp> I just downloaded and opened the Ubuntu pocket book. It was a Zip and it opened automatically with the archive manager. I extracted the PDF file inside to my Documents folder, where has it put the original and will it remove the original zip from my computer (i.e. temporary internet files - regular cleanup)?
[08:13] <lstarnes> surjeet: mono works differently than microsoft's implementation of .net, but mono is mostly compatible with it
[08:13] <DigitalKiwi> where is the factoid that makes fun of people for using factoids and thinking they are clever as a result of?
[08:13] <_2> Gauntlet you can't in windows.  boot to recovery mode and fix it
[08:14] <edward_> where do i get the latest catalyst package the link on the page is dead
[08:14] <nathanhelp> Gauntlet: set it to the lowest you can then work up from there to find one that is acceptable.
[08:14] <Gauntlet> _2 I tried booting in recovery mode and it gave me a list of options, one to edit xorg as well but it didnt get to the actual desktop
[08:14] <surjeet> hi friend i know but how can  i check where is option just i wann work on .net then what should i do??????????????????? please
[08:15] <lstarnes> surjeet: what option?
[08:15] <_2> Gauntlet then use a live cd,   but i doubt that you will fix it from windows,  unless you know a lot about both systems.
[08:16] <surjeet> accuttly i wanna use this how can i run??????????????? please
[08:17] <_2> !.net
[08:17] <Limitt> hey
[08:17] <lstarnes> surjeet: I would suggest looking at mono's documentation
[08:18] <_2> !dotnet
[08:18] <DigitalKiwi> and chapter 42 of the st martins guide to writing, it is all about commas
[08:18]  * _2 either ubottu
[08:18] <Limitt> i want to install gtk-gnutella and it shows up in 'add/remove' but not 'symantic
[08:18] <baz> how do i give the user *www-data* access/permission to folder */tmp*
[08:18] <edward_> what are the apps that run the best in wine?
[08:18] <surjeet> whare is this mono'documenation
[08:18] <lstarnes> surjeet: you can access the manual page for mono's interpreter/compiler using the command man mono
[08:18] <Limitt> is there a reason for that or am i doing something wrong in synaptic
[08:19] <_2> baz everyone has access to /tmp
[08:19] <phorensic> whats up f000000s!
[08:19] <neeco> how to change desktop background?
[08:19] <Limitt> could someone help me with 1 package on what would you do so I can know what to do for future packages
[08:19] <surjeet> whare we i will run this cammand
[08:19] <DigitalKiwi> is it still right click > change background?
[08:19] <lstarnes> surjeet: like all other commands, you run it in the terminal
[08:19] <_2> baz make sure that /tmp is mode 1777 == rwxrwxrwt
[08:20] <Limitt> I want to install GTK-Gnutella .. It shows up in 'add/remove' but not synaptic... Why is this?
[08:20] <edward_> brb
[08:20] <nathanhelp> !smile
[08:20] <phorensic> neeco: you could do preferences-appearance .. add image that way
[08:20] <baz> _2, how can i specify that its for www-data
[08:20] <neeco> I mean dynamically, as in running an animation as a wallpaper?
[08:21] <DigitalKiwi> mplayer has a -root something
[08:21] <Limitt> I read all the documentation on packages
[08:22] <prince_jammys> Limitt: i don't see why it wouldn't show up in synaptic
[08:22] <DigitalKiwi> -rootwin
[08:22] <Limitt> try it
[08:22] <Limitt> it will show up in add/remove
[08:22] <_2> baz ok.  maybe we are not communicating here.   permission "drwxrwxrwt" is a sticky dir.  everyone can created dirs/files in it and the person that creates them will own them,  that's how it works.     you don't want the permissions on /tmp to be anything other than   rwxrwxrwt
[08:22] <prince_jammys> Limitt: i don't have synaptic
[08:22] <Limitt> and not synaptic
[08:22] <Limitt> 'gtk-gnutella
[08:22] <prince_jammys> Limitt: so why not use add/remove then?
[08:23] <neeco> DigitalKiwi: thx
[08:23] <Limitt> just want to know why
[08:23] <phorensic> prince_jammys: add/remove vs. synaptic? aren't they the same?
[08:23] <prince_jammys> phorensic: no
[08:23] <_2> baz if you have an error message that is puzzeling you.  post it here.
[08:23] <Limitt> synaptic is the advanced package manager
[08:23] <Dr_willis> One is streamlined.
[08:23] <Limitt> you can pick which version to install .. and have more options
[08:23] <phorensic> where would you find add/remove then?
[08:23] <Limitt> i just read all that mumbo jumbo in the documentation
[08:23] <e-frame> yea where?
[08:23] <DigitalKiwi> neeco: yw
[08:24] <Dr_willis> add/remove is in the main program/menu. its a  'package-manager-light;' tool :) i perfer the real synaptic.. or the termianl
[08:24] <Limitt> you go to the ubuntu start menu
[08:24] <Limitt> and its add remove
[08:24] <e-frame> in m*****t w*****s :D
[08:24] <Limitt> right
[08:24] <Limitt> why would an app be in add remove and not synaptic
[08:24] <Limitt> i have not added any repos at all that were not built in and tickable
[08:24] <baz> _2, your explanation made sense, I didn't know how that works... so what does the owner matter in a case like that
[08:24] <Dr_willis> I would guess. that the user has some fliters set up in synaptic..or is using it wrong
[08:24] <prince_jammys> that would be my guess too
[08:25] <phorensic> i still dont see add/remove
[08:25] <edward_> why cant i edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf via terminal?
[08:25] <e-frame> i thought add/remove is just a categorized version of synaptic :D
[08:25] <prince_jammys> edward_: probably because you're not editing as admin user
[08:25] <Dr_willis> edward_,  you need to edit it as the root user. with  the proper 'sudo' type command
[08:25] <_2> baz the owner of /tmp should be root (superuser) only because you don't want someone changing /tmp itself.
[08:26] <surjeet> hi friend i got a long meter but am  unable to understend this
[08:26] <edward_> i thought my 1st and only account was admin user?
[08:26] <Limitt> heh you were right willis
[08:26] <Limitt> i used quick search which didnt work
[08:26] <Limitt> the search beside it worked
[08:26] <Limitt> and took slightly longer
[08:26] <Limitt> kinna weird but ok
[08:26] <edward_> ok nvm
[08:26] <edward_> i get it
[08:26] <edward_> just typed in pw
[08:26] <phorensic> Dr_willis: I still dont see the add/remove program?
[08:26] <Limitt> hit the start menu
[08:26] <baz> _2, is it possible in linux to define access on a per user basis? For example if only a specific 5 people were allowed to write to a certain folder...
[08:26] <neeco> DigitalKiwi: tried with -root but it doesn't work (as on other wm), no compositing used here, metacity issue?
[08:27] <Limitt> then scroll all the way to the bottom
[08:27] <Dr_willis> phorensic,  i just use the command line and be done with it..
[08:27] <Limitt> the add/remove is right there
[08:27] <phorensic> OIC
[08:27] <Limitt> or at least on miine
[08:27] <nathanhelp> can someone please test my settings by using my name?
[08:27] <DigitalKiwi> root as in -rootwin ?
[08:27] <prince_jammys> nathanhelp:
[08:27] <Limitt> from what i read i would use snaptic though
[08:27] <Limitt> its more advanced
[08:27] <neeco> baz: acl, as in getfacl/setfacl
[08:28] <Limitt> ubuntu documentation says so..
[08:28] <Spark_rd2> please how can I perform sniffing with ethercap-ng?
[08:28] <Limitt> heck if i were you id read it.. it only took me 3-4 minutes to glance though it
[08:28] <Dr_willis> 'add/remove' was put in - to apease the 'ex-windows crowd' :) heh..
[08:28] <neeco> DigitalKiwi: xscreensaver(s) only accept -root
[08:28] <Limitt> the installing packages section
[08:28] <_2> baz yes. using group permissions   if a group has write permission anyone in that group can write there.
[08:28] <prince_jammys> Spark_rd2: read the manual or find a tutorial on the web
[08:28] <DigitalKiwi> oh
[08:28]  * DigitalKiwi was talking about mplayer
[08:28] <phorensic> Dr_willis: I usually do to thats why i was wondering. Also it appears as if my add/remove list does not recognize some of the programs that I have installed as being installed
[08:28] <Dr_willis> Learn to use SYnaptic - is alli can say.. and read up on how to instasll packaes in the terminal
[08:28] <abmodi> Hi .. need some help regarding a corrupted ubuntu fs ..
[08:29] <DigitalKiwi> I didn't know we were talking about xscreensaver
[08:29] <Dr_willis> phorensic,  add/remove only shows a select set of apps I recall..
[08:29] <Limitt> it used the adding the official debian etchy repo as an example
[08:29] <Limitt> is that a good idea to add that
[08:29] <surjeet> hi friend i got a long meter but am  unable to understend this
[08:29] <Limitt> i know its not supported and all but for the most part does it work?
[08:29] <Spark_rd2> ok
[08:29] <Dr_willis> Limitt,  using debian stuff in ubuntu - can break things badly
[08:29] <phorensic> Dr_willis: True, but I have for example enigmail installed and it doesn't show that according to add/remove... I would say dont use add/remove.. is for the gays
[08:29] <Limitt> what i meant to say was *officially supported
[08:29] <abmodi> basically ran fsck using gparted usb disk .. lot of issues which I asked fsck to fix ... but there is a kernel panic - trying to kill init
[08:30] <nathanhelp> prince_jammys: And once more please
[08:30] <neeco> DigitalKiwi: misundestanding, thx anyway, didn't know that! ;)
[08:30] <Limitt> isnt ubuntu based on debian for the most part though?
[08:30] <abmodi> also .. /etc is hosed
[08:30] <prince_jammys> nathanhelp:
[08:30] <_2> baz i default all new users to be part of the "users" group  that lets me control access to documents via that group   anyone that behaves badly gets pulled from the "users" group
[08:30] <baz> _2, but how would u allow everyone to read but only 5 people to write if you can only associate 1 group
[08:30] <abmodi> it completely disappeared, and is replaced by a different *file* :(
[08:30] <Dr_willis> Limitt,   based on.. :) in much the same way that...er....   a   Race car  is based on a Model T . ;)
[08:30] <Limitt> just strange that thats the third party repository it used as an example kinna like it was a suggestion but they also had a 'dont use it if you want support from us kinna thing too so yeh i dunno
[08:31] <Limitt> nice way to look at it
[08:31] <Limitt> or a use at your own risk... linux is so nice once you get used to it
[08:31] <neeco> DigitalKiwi: tried, it doesn't work either, same problem here?
[08:32] <abmodi> any help please ?
[08:32] <DigitalKiwi> it strikes me that if the person used the cli package manager they would have stuff installed by now (it's a lot easier to explain text than actions...)
[08:32] <edward_> dr_willis, how do i log in to edit this file
[08:32] <_2> baz   sudo mkdir -pm 775 /blah/example ;chown :users /blah/example  # anyone in "users" can read and write to /blah/example/  while anyone not in "users" other than superuser (root)  can only read there.
[08:32] <DigitalKiwi> neeco: no clue :)
[08:33] <abmodi> how do I recreate a bare-minimum /etc ?
[08:33] <edward_> how can i edit my xorg.conf guys?
[08:33] <edward_> how do i log onto admin.
[08:33] <prince_jammys> edward_: gksudo /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:33] <prince_jammys> edward_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:33] <neeco> DigitalKiwi: does it work on your? what wm? ubuntu version?
[08:33] <DigitalKiwi> abmodi: man rm
[08:33] <phorensic> edward_: gksudo gedit /etc/Xqq/xorg.conf
[08:33] <_2> baz what we are discussing is the basic foundation of linux security
[08:34] <phorensic> ack!
[08:34] <prince_jammys> edward_: the second one i typed
[08:34] <edward_> ty
[08:34] <phorensic> edward_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:34] <phorensic> prince_jammys: bah yw
[08:34] <abmodi> rm ?
[08:34] <edward_> ty!
[08:35] <Limitt> how nervous should i be about installing something from universe?
[08:35] <prince_jammys> Limitt: not very
[08:35] <DigitalKiwi> you wanted a minimal /etc...
[08:35] <_2> baz if you would like to learn far more than i can possably mention here   sudo apt-get install rute-book  # and start reading.
[08:35] <phorensic> edward_: If you are in a terminal or console you want to use a console type editor so say sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[08:35] <Limitt> ok so universe is premoderated or just put on and reported if its bad
[08:36] <abmodi> yeah..one that can be used to boot ubuntu again :)
[08:36] <DigitalKiwi> neeco: awesome wm, and I don't know if it works for me or not >.>
[08:36] <baz> _2, yeah you're right. will the install pop up as an app in my menu
[08:36] <DigitalKiwi> grr, bruenig left
[08:36] <Limitt> what i meant was are universe files prescreened or are they active from the moment the developer adds them
[08:36] <DigitalKiwi> he has experience with restoring etc folders
[08:37] <_2> baz ummm not sure.   but  dpkg -L rute-book    will list all it installs.
[08:37] <DigitalKiwi> he kind of rm... /* it once
[08:37] <Limitt> and how thorough are they screened for malicious intent
[08:37] <Limitt> i mean i never hear about malware much on linux so im guessing im fine
[08:37]  * MoLE_ is away: I'm busy
[08:37] <prince_jammys> Limitt: don't worry about it. gtk-gnutella has been around for a long time
[08:37] <_2> /usr/share/doc/   is a good place to find gobs of information on your software
[08:37] <syntax\> i just got a new gfx card, inno3d fx5500. currently i have mx4000 installed. would it work right away if i plugged the fx5500? im running on ubuntu 8.10
[08:37]  * DigitalKiwi off to run viruses in wine
[08:37] <Limitt> but for other things in universe
[08:38] <prince_jammys> Limitt: the worst you'll stumble into is a bug
[08:38] <Limitt> i want to be taught to fish : )
[08:38] <Limitt> cool
[08:38] <Limitt> thanks everyone
[08:38] <Limitt> this beats the crap out of opensuse
[08:39] <DigitalKiwi> !rules
[08:39] <prison_break> i wanna play this game but i can't any clue?http://games.tagged.com/multi.htm?refid=
[08:39] <_2> Limitt heh.
[08:39]  * nathanhelp throws a net at Limitt: Here yah go son.
[08:41] <abmodi>  is there any way to reinstall /etc directory if it gor deleted ?
[08:41] <prison_break> i mean the 9 pool ball
[08:41] <DigitalKiwi> abmodi: hold
[08:41] <syntax\> anyone?
[08:41] <prince_jammys> abmodi: you deleted the whole /etc dir?
[08:42] <Limitt> would you guys recommend compiz or am i already using it if I can do the windows key E thing
[08:42] <abmodi> I didn't .. the filesystem got screwed .. and then after fsck ..it has disappeared
[08:42] <DigitalKiwi> http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=60984 abmodi
[08:42] <prison_break> cryft remover it's a piece of c......
[08:42] <_2> abmodi lol,   not really.    get ready for a reload.
[08:42] <abmodi> coulnd  not find it in lost and found ..it has been replaced by a file
[08:42] <DigitalKiwi> _2 fails
[08:42] <phorensic> Limitt: compiz comes with ubuntu but not all modules are selected
[08:43] <Limitt> i mean I want stable and all but im not sure if its compiz giving me these 3d effects when I hit  'Shift + Alt + Up"
[08:43] <abmodi> thanks DigitalKiwi .. will go through the link ..
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> hope it works >.>
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> though you'll need to do some bash foo...ubuntu doesn't have pacman
[08:43] <DigitalKiwi> sadly
[08:43] <phorensic> Limitt: you have 3d accelerating turned on??? you also should look into installing  ccsm (compiz config settings manager)
[08:43] <Limitt> so " shift + alt + up ' and ' windows key + e'  are compiz features?
[08:44] <Quack[stinkpad]> compiz is pretty cool
[08:44] <nathanhelp> What would be a good test in ubuntu for my graphics card?
[08:44] <Quack[stinkpad]> just try it
[08:44] <Limitt> yeh the commands work that i just typed in
[08:44] <Quack[stinkpad]> if you don't like it, uninstall it
[08:44] <Harde> What do I need to write on fstab to automount this? /dev/sdb on /media/disk type ext3 (rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal)
[08:44] <nathanhelp> I want to push it to see how much it can cope with.
[08:44] <DigitalKiwi> glxgears nathanhelp ?
[08:44] <prison_break> does anybody know why i cannot play 9 p00l ball here? http://games.tagged.com/multi.htm?refid=
[08:44] <DigitalKiwi> compiz is meh
[08:44] <nathanhelp> !glxgears
[08:44] <_2> DigitalKiwi you advising him to try to undelete the dir ?     that's not reinstalling /etc      but he might "recover" it  yeah.
[08:44] <Limitt> cool
[08:45] <Quack[stinkpad]> it's cool looking, but the cube thing loses its novelty eventually
[08:45] <phorensic> Quack[stinkpad]: yes it sure does
[08:45] <amischi> know what doing
[08:45] <amischi> checking MathFonts_TrueType_41.exe
[08:45] <amischi> Downloaded file looks corrupted!
[08:45] <amischi> dpkg: errore processando ttf-mathematica4.1 (--configure):
[08:45] <amischi>  il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1
[08:45] <amischi> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Asserzione 'dependtry <= 4' fallita.
[08:45] <FloodBot1> amischi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:45] <Limitt> is there a way to get it to just snap and not animate out when you do the shift alt up thing
[08:45] <DigitalKiwi> the link I sent was of someone who deleted /etc so yeah >.>
[08:45] <aaroninfidel> how can I check which sound daemon I'm using?
[08:45] <Quack[stinkpad]> you can always shift+alt side for extra desktop
[08:46] <Limitt> doesnt work for me
[08:46] <prince_jammys> Limitt: run ccsm and you can configure everything
[08:46] <DigitalKiwi> you kids and your spinning cubes
[08:46] <_2> DigitalKiwi yes  but his question was "<abmodi>  is there any way to reinstall /etc directory..."    so my answer was not about unteleting it.  he didn't ask that.
[08:46] <prince_jammys> you can't "reinstall" /etc
[08:46] <amischi> sorry
[08:46] <prison_break> does anybody know why i cannot play 9 p00l ball here? http://games.tagged.com/multi.htm?refid=
[08:46] <Limitt> eh dont have ccsm yet
[08:46] <amischi> can i try again
[08:46] <Limitt> i guess ill install it
[08:46] <abmodi> I did not delete .. so I cannot undelete ..
[08:47] <Limitt> so it cant hurt to install it since im already using it eh?
[08:47] <DigitalKiwi> mhr
[08:47] <Quack[stinkpad]> just install it!
[08:47] <Limitt> lol
[08:47] <Quack[stinkpad]> it'll be cool
[08:47] <Limitt> cool
[08:47] <abmodi> reinstall .. prince_jammy says it not an option ..
[08:47] <Algorithm_42> hello all
[08:47] <Quack[stinkpad]> make sure that you turn on the rotating cube. cause i enabled cube and didn't know why it wouldn't work
[08:47] <Quack[stinkpad]> i had to enable the rotating
[08:48] <abmodi> would copying  a subset of files from the install cd help ? just enough to hace the kernel boot up ?
[08:48] <nathanhelp> is 1814.804 FPS good?
[08:48] <DigitalKiwi> guys, as non-trollishly is as possible I ask, what is better about ubuntu than say fedora or another distro? :/
[08:48] <nonix4> How do I defend against an ongoing MITM? So far dns spoof detected, arp spoofing & port-stealing suspected.
[08:48] <DigitalKiwi> or is this not the place for my inquiry :(
[08:48] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: #ubuntu-offtopic probably, or the web
[08:49] <Limitt> is it simple-ccsm?
[08:49] <_2> DigitalKiwi probably #ubuntu-offtopic would be better.
[08:49] <neeco> question for the Ops: can't a script on @ubuntu
[08:49] <Limitt> or is that somethin diff
[08:49] <Quack[stinkpad]> i think it's just ccsm
[08:49] <Quack[stinkpad]> it's the compiz config settings manager or something
[08:49] <_2> DigitalKiwi but in short, the support is one thing.
[08:49] <Limitt> aight
[08:49] <syntax\> i just got a new gfx card, inno3d fx5500. currently i have mx4000 installed. would it work right away if i plugged the fx5500? im running on ubuntu 8.10
[08:49] <Quack[stinkpad]> are you checking in synaptic or wut
[08:49] <DigitalKiwi> support from irc/forums or something i am not aware of?
[08:50] <prison_break> does anybody know why i cannot play 9 p00l ball here? http://games.tagged.com/multi.htm?refid=
[08:50] <neeco> question for the Ops: can't a script on #ubuntu change 's\/*rm/RM/g' before kicking/banning som1 when posting about removing roots?
[08:50] <_2> DigitalKiwi all of the above, total user base
[08:50] <prison_break> any ewuivalent program like shockwave?
[08:50] <amischi> checking MathFonts_TrueType_41.exe
[08:50] <amischi> Downloaded file looks corrupted!
[08:50] <amischi> dpkg: errore processando ttf-mathematica4.1 (--configure):
[08:50] <amischi>  il sottoprocesso post-installation script ha restituito un codice di errore 1
[08:50] <amischi> dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Asserzione 'dependtry <= 4' fallita.
[08:50] <FloodBot1> amischi: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:50] <amischi> Aborted
[08:50] <prince_jammys> amischi: stop that
[08:50] <lstarnes> neeco: ops cannot edit what other users have already said
[08:51] <Limitt> just got it thanks
[08:51] <Limitt> what are some of your favorite effects?
[08:51] <amischi> i must just write?
[08:51] <prince_jammys> !paste > amischi
[08:51] <prince_jammys> !it > amischi
[08:52] <neeco> what about saying that in order to write about the del command 1 _has_ to use all capitals?
[08:52] <lstarnes> neeco: that would likely confuse users
[08:52] <prince_jammys> neeco: what?
[08:53] <_2> neeco i'm not an op but i will venture to explain that the best that could be achieved there would be to have a bot repost what was said with a correction and maybe an explaination appended.
[08:53] <server_> Alloha people
[08:53] <server_> how can i install the good old xmms?
[08:53] <prince_jammys> server_: use audacious. xmms is history
[08:53] <server_> because it looks like the xmms is gone...
[08:54] <edward> how can i access restricted drivers manager
[08:54] <Dr_willis> server_,  use the source.. if you MUST...
[08:54] <server_> ok cool tnx
[08:54] <phorensic> server_: but
[08:54] <edward> guess i didnt install properly
[08:54] <neeco> lstarnes: yes but newbies would avoid trashing disks and know the terrible powers of root (the user)
[08:54] <prince_jammys> server_: audacious is pretty much xmms
[08:54] <phorensic> server_: look at audacious
[08:54] <DigitalKiwi> so wait, saying rm -rf (something) can get me auto banned?
[08:54] <server_> tnx phorensic
[08:54] <phorensic> server_: agree with prince_jammys
[08:54] <DigitalKiwi> when something is like / ?
[08:54] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: if something happens to be '/'
[08:54] <_2> neeco so their policy of non-tolerance of malicous code is a decision that they have the right to enforce.  if you want to discuss it with them you should peobably /join #ubuntu-ops
[08:54] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: does that come as a shock?
[08:54] <Dr_willis> Heh - i got auto-kicked once because i told someone my  D C C Send Was Not working. :)
[08:54] <neeco> _2: would such a bot be expensive (as in resource needed) to run?
[08:55] <bullgard4> Why do I have 2 almost identical directories with contents on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computers: /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/Documentation/ and /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.24/Documentation/ ?
[08:55] <DigitalKiwi> prince_jammys: a bit
[08:55] <neeco> _2: fine (#ubuntu-ops)
[08:55] <_2> neeco ask them.    personally i think FloodBot# could be used.
[08:55] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: it's a help channel. that command is usually not too helpful
[08:55] <Dr_willis> bullgard4,  you sure they are not the same? could be one is a link to the other.
[08:55] <DigitalKiwi> but just cause it gets said doesn't mean it was telling someone to do it :/
[08:56] <prison_break> shocwave for ubuntu>?
[08:56] <_2> neeco or even ubottu
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> in fact it could be someone saying "make sure not to rm -..."
[08:56] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: yeah, yeah. you get the idea though.
[08:56] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: ha
[08:56] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: and by the way, make sure not to shoot yourself in the head like this: .... ?
[08:56] <DigitalKiwi> dude I can totally think of instances i would say that to someone
[08:56] <prince_jammys> DigitalKiwi: yeah, but they have no tolerance for that here
[08:56] <_2> DigitalKiwi indeed.  but again that's a discussion for #ubuntu-ops
[08:56] <bullgard4> Dr_willis: I am sure. They are not identical. And now please answer the question that I have put.
[08:57] <server_> yes audacious is the bomb
[08:57] <server_> this is what i was looking for :)
[08:57] <server_> tnx all
[08:57] <DigitalKiwi> mpd + ncmpcpp > audacious
[08:57] <Dr_willis> bullgard4,  no idea then..
[08:57] <prison_break> why there isn't shockwave for linux
[08:57] <prison_break> ?
[08:58] <Dr_willis> Because the shockwave maker wont port it?
[08:58] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: probably because whoever wrote that package wanted to make sure the docs are available in different places, for different distros
[08:58] <_2> blame linux that there is no .* for linux ....    like saying blame the starving child for not having enough food to survive.
[08:59] <DigitalKiwi> the starving child should get a job
[08:59] <DigitalKiwi> ...
[09:00] <_2> DigitalKiwi exactly  and when he turns three if he survives until then i'm make sure he does.
[09:00] <phorensic> Especially when you consider linux is a kernel, not the applications that sit on top of it..
[09:01] <nathanhelp> prison_break: There is sort of...but you need to enable things that are not out-of-the-box from an Ubuntu install.
[09:01] <DigitalKiwi> when I was his age I worked 16 hour days and made .10 an hour!
[09:01] <nathanhelp> !medubuntu
[09:01] <nathanhelp> !medibuntu
[09:01] <DigitalKiwi> GNU/Linux
[09:01] <prison_break> nathanhelp so what can i do?
[09:01] <prison_break> is this safe?
[09:01] <nathanhelp> prison_break: Go there and do a search up on what to do for flash stuff. Yes it is safe.
[09:02] <nathanhelp> as far as I know (im a fair recent convert)
[09:02] <_2> DigitalKiwi and had to walk 8 miles up hill both ways   i guess.....
[09:03] <DigitalKiwi> with no shoes
[09:03] <nathanhelp> prison_break:   Just read up on it and install what you are comfortable with / allowed to / want to/ etc.
[09:03] <_2> right
[09:03] <DigitalKiwi> but it was level surface, I won't exaggerate that much
[09:04] <prison_break> is there any problem if i install adobe flash player for ubuntu 8.04 because i have 8.10
[09:04] <prison_break> nathanhelp?
[09:04] <prince_jammys> !flash
[09:04] <kane77> sometimes my hdd drives don't get mounted when I boot.. I found this in dmesg: "FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors" and this: "VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1" What is happening?
[09:05] <DigitalKiwi> !google forums
[09:05] <DigitalKiwi> bah
[09:05] <DigitalKiwi> did you know that the first google result for "forums" is ubuntuforums? feel proud
[09:05] <toehio> When I boot the ubuntu (I tried 7.04 and 8.1) live CD, it hangs when it gets to "starting hald". I used to boot it on my computer but that was before upgrading my graphics to a GeForce 9600 GT. How do I get it too boot and install it?
[09:06] <DigitalKiwi> or ashamed
[09:06] <DigitalKiwi> I'm not sure which :(
[09:06] <prince_jammys> indifferent?
[09:07] <bullgard4> prince_jammys: hm. Waste of ressources.
[09:07] <prison_break> how can i add the firefox plugin directory to the search line in opera preferences?
[09:07] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: i'm sure they're very small text files, or zipped archives
[09:09] <bullgard4> prince_jammys: du tells me that they comprise 11.4 MB. I do not call this "small".
[09:10] <toehio> How do I boot the live cd in alternate install mode (no GUI)?
[09:10] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: i don't believe that
[09:10] <nathanhelp> prison_break: Sorry i was on a different desktop
[09:10] <prince_jammys> bullgard4: what's the name of the directory?
[09:10] <prison_break> ok tell me nathanhelp
[09:10] <jtaji> bullgard4: if you install linux-source then you do not need linux-doc... linux-source has the documentation in it's normal place, and linux-doc has it in /usr/doc for people who don't need the source
[09:11] <_2> toehio the live CD you can't  the live DVD you can.
[09:11] <jtaji> bullgard4: so the solutio is aptitude remove linux-doc ;)
[09:11] <prison_break> i installed flash player but it's not for games i forgot that
[09:11] <Dr_willis> I lay flash games all the time
[09:11] <Dr_willis> play :)
[09:12] <nathanhelp> So what are yo uactually trying to solve prison_break?
[09:12] <toehio> _2: oh, thank you
[09:12] <_2> Dr_willis i hope the wife didn't see that typo
[09:12] <prison_break> to play games with any plugin like shockwave
[09:12] <toehio> _2: Where can I get help with installing ubuntu on my computer?
[09:12] <Dr_willis> _2,  i keep 'those' flash games on the thumbdrive :)
[09:12] <_2> toehio here
[09:13] <bullgard4> jtaji: I did not understand your sentence: "for people who don't need the source." Please elaborate.
[09:13] <jtaji> bullgard4: if you don't need the kernel source, and just want to read the docs
[09:13] <kj4> toehio, have you started the install yet?
[09:13] <toehio> _2: I have it installed on one partition but when it boots it hangs on "starting hald"
[09:13] <nathanhelp> prison_break: If you install the latest flash drivers as per !flash and !medibuntu You'll be able to play flash games. "Any plugin" might be a little more difficult as some things differ from Windows to Linux.
[09:14] <toehio> kj4: The only way I can use it is in recovery mode
[09:14] <nathanhelp> !flash > prison_break
[09:14] <Gautam> please tell me what is the command to remove all the previous command from terminal ?
[09:14] <nathanhelp> !medibuntu > prison_break
[09:14] <guybrush> Hello everybody. I need some help compiling a custom kernel with apparmor patches applied
[09:14] <nathanhelp> !medibuntu
[09:15] <lstarnes> Gautam: maybe history -c
[09:15] <kj4> toehio, does the machine boot the liveCD to a desktop OK?
[09:15] <Dr_willis> Gautam,  if you mean the bash history  - its the bash built in histroy command with the -c option
[09:15] <prison_break> nathanhelp i have installed medibuntu dependency
[09:15] <prison_break> so what can i do
[09:15] <edgy> Hi, I used usb-creator to create a live usb disk but it doesn't boot?!
[09:15] <nathanhelp> prison_break: Are yo ustill unable to play flash games?
[09:15] <toehio> kj4: I can boot the liveCD on my laptop and used to boot it on this desktop until i got a GeForce 9600GT
[09:15] <Dr_willis> edgy,  once on my thumbdrive i had to rerun syslinux  and tellit to make the thumbdrive bootable.
[09:16] <nathanhelp> prison_break: Have you restarted since installing the flash?
[09:16] <toehio> kj4: I installed it with the alternate cd
[09:16] <bullgard4> jtaji: Ok. --  You say: "linux-source has the documentation in it's normal place." What is its normal place?
[09:16] <prison_break> i just installed a flash player with wine how can i delete it?
[09:16] <prison_break> nathanhelp?
[09:16] <kj4> you installed with alternate, because the live wouldn't boot?
[09:16] <toehio> kj4: yes
[09:16] <_2> app iftop lies
[09:16] <Gautam> yes it is history -c...thank you
[09:16] <edgy> Dr_willis: can you point me to docs regarding this? I thought usb-creator would make it bootable
[09:16] <edward> hey can i have some1's sources list?
[09:16] <Gauntlet> I just changed the resolution in ubuntu and it went out of range and I cant see anything. I'm running on windows atm. How can I revert ubuntu to its default resolution?
[09:16] <nathanhelp> prison_break: ok lets back track a little. Are you trying to install flash into windows or ubuntu?
[09:16] <toehio> kj4: But I can't get the graphics to work properly once i have booted in recovery and started the hald daemon manually
[09:17] <prison_break> ubuntu dude
[09:17] <Dr_willis> edgy,  its supposed to - but sme times has issues..  check the syslinux homepage/docs/ manpages.. its not too hard to figure out. and yes..its a cli command
[09:17] <Gautam> What is bash
[09:17] <toehio> kj4: once I start GDM the whole screen is white and i can barely see the mouse
[09:17] <nathanhelp> prison_break: So why did you mention wine?
[09:17] <lstarnes> Gautam: it is the default shell used in the terminal
[09:17] <Quack[stinkpad]> hey is it possible to wget a web directory of pdf files?
[09:17] <prince_jammys> Gautam: your shell is bash. it interprets the stuff you type in the command line
[09:17] <jtaji> bullgard4: I should have said it's in the kernel tarball along with the source
[09:17] <_2> borne again shell
[09:18] <prison_break> lol eleos asto gamato
[09:18] <bullgard4> jtaji: Ok. Thank you very much for your help.
[09:18] <prison_break> i told you if is any way of installing shockwave no ok byeeeeeeee
[09:18] <Gauntlet> I just changed the resolution in ubuntu and it went out of range and I cant see anything. I'm running on windows atm. How can I revert ubuntu to its default resolution?
[09:18] <Daemonik> How does one scroll horizontally with a trackpad?
[09:18] <guybrush> I compiled a custom kernel (2.6.28.2) and applied the apparmor patches in order, but apparmor is not loading. Can anybody give me some advice?
[09:19] <kj4> toehio: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=863205   check that out
[09:19] <nathanhelp> prison_break: There is no need to install Ubuntu Flash player in Wine. Install ubuntu flash player into your Ubuntu as per (you type out !Flash then follow the instructions). Yes. when you install flash it should install shockwave.
[09:19] <prison_break> so tell me the steps
[09:20] <toehio> kj4: thanks, i will see if i can find a solution there
[09:20] <nathanhelp> prison_break: type !flash.
[09:20] <prison_break> how can i delete the flash player i installed with wine?
[09:20] <jtaji> flash does NOT include shockwave
[09:20] <prison_break> !flash
[09:20] <jtaji> there is no shockwave for linux
[09:20] <nathanhelp> :facepalm:
[09:20] <SanketMedhi> any Scite users here?
[09:21] <Dr_willis> wine apps/insalls normally have an Unintall icon in the menus.. or remove them from the .wine/whatever dir manually.
[09:21] <nathanhelp> prison_break: Please give me a site of what you want to play on.
[09:21] <Quack[stinkpad]> there is no shockwave for linux because not being able to play games is one of linux's founding principles
[09:22] <Quack[stinkpad]> that's one way to ensure productivity :D
[09:22] <DigitalKiwi> ahem
[09:22] <DigitalKiwi> explain IRC
[09:22] <prison_break> http://games.tagged.com/multi.htm?refid= 9 pool ball
[09:22] <phorensic> Quack[stinkpad]: haahah
[09:22] <prison_break> nathanhelp
[09:22] <edgy> Dr_willis: thanks I will read about it and try that ...
[09:22] <Quack[stinkpad]> irc was invented BECAUSE linux doesn't have games
[09:22] <Quack[stinkpad]> you have command line multiplayer
[09:23] <Quack[stinkpad]> type type type type type, that's the name of the game!
[09:23] <DigitalKiwi> I have 42 windows open for irc ;_;
[09:23]  * foxwoods hacks Quack with his glowing laser sword of justice for 50 hp
[09:23] <foxwoods> see, we can have fun
[09:23] <Dr_willis> IRC is the ultimate MMORPG
[09:23] <nathanhelp> prison_break: is it ok if i PM you?
[09:23] <_2> Quack[stinkpad] <georga>   is you all for real   </georga>
[09:23] <prison_break> ok
[09:23] <Mood> Dr_willis: idlerpg
[09:23] <neeco> how do I keep the network running after logout (no disconnection wished)
[09:24] <jim_p> !kubuntu
[09:24] <DigitalKiwi> use a better network manager?
[09:24] <ziroday> neeco: why do you want to do that?
[09:24] <Gauntlet> I just changed the resolution in ubuntu and it went out of range and I cant see anything. I'm running on windows atm. How can I revert ubuntu to its default resolution?
[09:24] <neeco> use the provided one
[09:24] <phorensic> Gauntlet: Did you try logging out of that session and logging back in?
[09:24] <neeco> ziroday: p2p running on a multiuser system
[09:25] <DigitalKiwi> Gauntlet: start it with a livecd and change the config file
[09:25] <ziroday> neeco: well why don't you switch user instead of logout?
[09:25] <Veratyr9> !help
[09:25] <neeco> ATI card
[09:25] <ziroday> neeco: ati card?
[09:25] <Gauntlet> phorensic yes I did, I restarted and thats when I realised the resolution was higher than my screen allowed when it got to login
[09:25] <SanketMedhi> ubottu: scite
[09:25] <Veratyr9> neeco: are you getting a setsuspendresume error when you boot?
[09:25] <phorensic> Gauntlet: so its all black?
[09:25] <Gauntlet> DigitalKiwi I dont have a live cd, digitally downloaded
[09:25] <neeco> ziroday: ATI cards lock-up system when switching user (known bug)
[09:26] <Gauntlet> phorensic it just says out of range. Its what it says when a res is too high
[09:26] <DigitalKiwi> neeco: if ubuntu has wicd I've found it to be a lot more satisfactroy than networkmanager
[09:26] <ziroday> neeco: really? which card do you have and link to bug report?
[09:26] <foxwoods> Gauntlet: in your xorg.conf you should be able to find a section detaliing the resolutions
[09:26] <Gauntlet> foxwoods 8.10 doesnt list the resolutions like it used to
[09:26] <DigitalKiwi> you don't even have to login to a GUI with it and you can autoconnect to wireless etc, for one
[09:27] <phorensic> gauntlet try hitting alt-f4 to open a console edit etc/X11/xorg.conf and input the correct resoulution and restart
[09:27] <ziroday> Gauntlet: how did you change your resolution?
[09:27] <neeco> ziroday: radeon hd3470 http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=239#c48
[09:27] <foxwoods> Gauntlet: then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:27] <phorensic> Gauntlet: That is another way.. you have to get to the terminal first obviously
[09:27] <neeco> DigitalKiwi: do you _strongly_ suggest to switch?
[09:27] <Gauntlet> ziroday I installed nvidia drivers and then changed it with the nvidea settings panel
[09:28] <foxwoods> phorensic: Gauntlet: which is done by CTRL-ALT-F[1,2,3....] not alt-F4...........
[09:28] <kane77> can disks /dev names change by themselves? how do I find out which is which disk?
[09:28] <econnrefused> trying to setup my ubuntu laptop with a second monitor
[09:28] <ziroday> Gauntlet: right, then do nvidia-xconfig at the command line to have go back
[09:28] <prince_jammys> kane77: type : 'mount'
[09:28] <phorensic> ctrl-alt f1 or f4 is what i meant
[09:28] <foxwoods> kane77: that, our type sudo fdisk -l
[09:28] <Gauntlet> phorensic thanks you
[09:28] <prince_jammys> kane77: or 'sudo fdisk -l'
[09:28] <ziroday> neeco: ubuntu bug?
[09:28] <DigitalKiwi> unless there is some pressing need that I don't know about to use networkmanager then, yeah, I'd go with wicd
[09:29] <phorensic> Gauntlet: you can do sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg too, that might be a better first attempt
[09:29] <Gauntlet> foxwoods thanks, I will try and edit the xorg file
[09:29] <econnrefused> its recognised it and everything seems to have setup well, except the resolution on the second monitor is fine, but on the laptop its stretched blurry
[09:29] <_2> kane77 cat /proc/partitions      or    blkid
[09:29] <neeco> ziroday: wait...
[09:29] <kane77> prince_jammys thank you
[09:29] <DigitalKiwi> assuming ubuntu has it >.>
[09:29] <foxwoods> Gauntlet: np
[09:29] <Gauntlet> phorensic okay, I just have to get to console, assuming I can with recovery mode?
[09:29] <kane77> and is there any script that can generate fdisk config for my disks?
[09:30] <foxwoods> Gauntlet: you don't even need to
[09:30] <Veratyr9> Looking for help with ATI driver problems, fglrx making errors on bootup.  thread with more info at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1055767
[09:30] <phorensic> Gauntlet: i thin you can try hitting ctrl-alt f1 while it is black and that should drop to a console and your screen should be cool
[09:30] <Dr_willis> fdisk config ?
[09:30] <_2> kane77 you probably want   blkid
[09:30]  * DigitalKiwi is stymied
[09:30] <_2> kane77 using   uuid=  for the fstab
[09:30] <Gauntlet> thanks guys, might talk to you later. If not you know its worked :P
[09:31] <ziroday> neeco: also are you using the open source or closed source drivers?
[09:31] <DigitalKiwi> har, aren't they both open?
[09:31] <econnrefused> I would take a screenshot but it looks fine in the screenshot
[09:31] <kane77> _2, yes, that too, because now I see that for some reason what used to be /dev/sdc1 changed to /dev/sda1 and it won't mount it automatically
[09:31] <foxwoods> Does anyone know how to get rid of the grey outlines in firefox?
[09:31] <_2> kane77 use the uuid and it will
[09:32] <phorensic> uuid = good
[09:32] <craigaa> Hi All, I am looking to synchronise data on my Ubuntu notebook with that on  my Windows XP. Essentially, I would like my notebook to automatically check to if the Windows PC is available on login and at shutdown. A problem I see is that it takes a while (~20s) for the wireless network to connect. Any ideas?
[09:32] <nathanhelp> !uuid
[09:33] <toddoon> Salut quelqu'un peut il m'aider à configurer mon wifi en ligne de commande?
[09:33] <ziroday> Veratyr9: you don't have a xorg.conf anymore, try asking in #ubuntu-x
[09:33] <prince_jammys> !fr | toddoon
[09:33] <ziroday> !fr | toddoon
[09:33] <sanny> how to install lamp
[09:33] <prince_jammys> !lamp > sanny
[09:33] <ziroday> !lamp | sanjeevan
[09:33] <jtaji> sanny: sudo tasksel install lamp
[09:33] <Quack[stinkpad]> hey how come it doesn't work if i wget -r -l1 a web directory?
[09:34] <phorensic> jtaji: eww you use tasksel for that?
[09:34] <Quack[stinkpad]> i want to download a bunch of pdfs in a directory but wget only finds a couple of text files
[09:34] <Veratyr9b> ziroday: how do i not have one anymore? is it depreciated? delete itself? forgive me, ubuntu has always worked perfect til now, not too familiar with the behind the scenes stuff
[09:34] <jtaji> sanny: sorry, sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[09:34] <ziroday> Veratyr9: its depreciated
[09:34] <jtaji> phorensic: so does the server installer, why not?
[09:35] <kane77> _2, blkid is great, thank you! i fixed my fstab :)
[09:35] <Veratyr9b> ziroday: thank you thank you thank you, i've been in here for a while, you're the first person to tell me that
[09:35] <Veratyr9b> ziroday: explains everything
[09:35] <phorensic> jtaji: every time i use it from the desktop environment it screws up my config and x
[09:35] <prince_jammys> Quack[stinkpad]: try #wget
[09:35] <Quack[stinkpad]> othx
[09:36] <ziroday> Veratyr9: you can create a xorg.conf if you want and X will look there
[09:36] <phorensic> jtaji: If he wants gui+server he should install w/ server install then add desktop packages, or install the packages in the desktop via their package name
[09:36] <Veratyr9b> ziroday: oh? where does it go, and is there a template of some sort... better yet is there a tutorial you know of off hand that explains what replaces it?
[09:37] <jtaji> phorensic: I don't agree with that and all and have never had that experience... also btw apparently you can do sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ also
[09:37] <ziroday> Veratyr9: you take a look through here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[09:37] <Veratyr9b> ziroday: alright, thanks
[09:37] <jtaji> phorensic: at the same time I usually do this on headless servers ;)
[09:37] <neeco> ziroday: sorry still searching, I'm using the proprietary driver
[09:37] <ziroday> neeco: try the open source ones, they should solve that issue.
[09:38] <sanny> this is not insatll proparly
[09:38] <edward_> hey does the fact that my hardware driver manager is saying my driver isn't activated having anything to do with me not being able to get special effects?
[09:38] <phorensic> jtaji: aahh maybe thats why.. i mean tasksel works groovy w/o gui, i just never had luck with the desktop installed. i didn't know about lamp-server.. i'm hesitant to install it any other way in the gui but that would be so much easier
[09:38] <tomek> Where ubunte store file with paths to programs( something like PATH var in windows))
[09:39] <prince_jammys> tomek: the PATH environment variable
[09:39] <quibbler> edward: e
[09:39] <tomek> can you show example?
[09:39] <quibbler> edward: yes
[09:39] <prince_jammys> tomek: echo "$PATH" to see the dirs
[09:39] <tomek> how can i write to PATH?
[09:39] <edward_> how can i activate
[09:39] <jtaji> phorensic: there is certainly nothing wrong with installing the packages separately
[09:39] <prince_jammys> tomek: why?
[09:39] <edward_> i have not restricted drivers manager :(
[09:39] <_2> tomek echo $PATH
[09:39] <sanny> this is not insatll proparly
[09:39] <edward_> and im having so much trouble installing
[09:39] <perlmonke1> can anyone recommended a backup solution for this type of situation... I have a server with a single 320GB drive containing root+home and I'd like it backed up so if the drive fails I can get the system back up with minimum of fuss.. it would also be good to have 24 hr backups so if any files get overwritten etc, I can always retrieve them from yesterdays backup.. I have 2 spare 320GB drives in the system... what are my best
[09:40] <phorensic> !export
[09:40] <perlmonke1> incidently the server is running mail, apache, and nfs
[09:40] <trimeta> Is there a good way to allow my Ibex system to read ext4, other than manually configuring a new kernel?
[09:40] <edward_> how do i install restricted drivers manager?
[09:40] <jtaji> tomek: what are you trying to add?
[09:40] <_2> tomek if you are looking for a specific executable     which executable    # should find it.    and if you are looking for all the files installed by a package    dpkg -L package-name
[09:40] <phorensic> jtaji: Does export basically just temporarily set a variable to be used in the given console?
[09:40] <tomek> i would like to add path to some program
[09:40] <sanny> how to install lamp
[09:40] <phorensic> edward_ it should already be installed
[09:40] <Dr-Jon> hi
[09:40] <Dr_willis> phorensic,  sort of  kinda.. the  bash guides/docs detail it. :)
[09:40] <edward_> well its no where to be found
[09:40] <edward_> :(
[09:41] <perlmonke1> I'm thinking something like, rsync on a 24 hr cronjob?
[09:41] <KingRouting> in ubuntu file structure, would second partition on first HDD be /dev/hda2?
[09:41] <trimeta> Sanny: LAMP just means "Linux + Apache + MySQL + Perl/PHP"
[09:41] <prince_jammys> !lamp > sanny
[09:41] <tomek> now i call 'home/tomek/program', but i want to type only 'program'
[09:41] <Dr_willis> phorensic,  export -> variable gets sent to child processes also.
[09:41] <jtaji> tomek: there's usually a better way than adding an entry to path for every program you might compile/install
[09:41] <phorensic> sanny: Do you want only a server install, or are you installing it in a desktop install?
[09:41] <jtaji> tomek: mkdir /home/tomek/bin and put it in there
[09:41] <tomek> nice, thanks a lot
[09:41] <jtaji> tomek: log out and log back in and /home/tomek/bin will be in your path
[09:41] <Dr_willis> tomek,  or make Links TO the binary from that  /home/tomek/bin dir
[09:42] <econnrefused> can anyone give me an idea how to debug this,  when setting up a second monitor, me second monitor displays perfectly, my original laptop monitor is now blurry and stretched, ubuntu 8.10
[09:42] <_2> tomek for one user put  >>>  export PATH="$PATH:/new/path" <<<   in your ~/.profile    for system wide  put it in /etc/profile
[09:42] <Limitt> hey
[09:43] <Limitt> whats the best windows emulator for office apps like quickbooks
[09:43] <Limitt> i know wine is not sufficient
[09:43] <econnrefused> Limitt: I like sun virtualbox
[09:43] <_2> tomek jtaji is correct also.  the prefered way is to use dirs already in the path
[09:43] <neeco> ziroday: thx, already tried, they work fine, no 3D acceleration
[09:43] <Limitt> whats the best package to get in snaptic?
[09:43] <trimeta> econnrefused: Though, VirtualBox is a virtualizer, not a emulator.
[09:43] <Dr_willis> Limitt,  wine basicially is the only windows emulator. :) unless you wan tto go virtualmachine.
[09:43] <neeco> ziroday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fast-user-switch-applet/+bug/290704
[09:43] <Limitt> ill do virtual machine i guess
[09:44] <Dr_willis> Limitt,  theres the comaercial wine vbariants. that may run specific apps better
[09:44] <tomek> i will copy it to /usr/local/bin
[09:44] <edward_> any1 can tell me how to install restricted drivers manager
[09:44] <edward_> ?
[09:44] <Limitt> 512 mb ram enough to run xp to do quickbooks for a bit?
[09:44] <Dr_willis> edward,  it should be installed by default
[09:44] <_2> Limitt have you tried vbox dosbox or qemu ?
[09:44] <edward_> its not
[09:44] <Dr_willis> !find jockey
[09:44] <econnrefused> 512 is pushing it
[09:44] <Dr_willis> edward,  try running  jockey-gtk
[09:44] <Limitt> could you elaborate a bit willis?
[09:44] <econnrefused> I run it on 1GB fine
[09:45] <Limitt> just need to upgrade then..
[09:45] <neeco> this brings me back to the original issue as DigitalWiki suggested: should I switch to wicd instead of NM?
[09:45] <trimeta> My Windows VM has only 384MB RAM, but I only run Office...
[09:45] <Dr_willis> Limitt,   on what exactly?
[09:45] <Limitt> 1.60ghz worth upgrading to 1g ram
[09:45] <trimeta> (my whole system has 2GB RAM)
[09:45] <edward_> yea hardware drivers pops up, not restricted drivers
[09:45] <edward_> and when i press activate and type in pw
[09:45] <edward_> nothing happens
[09:45] <Limitt> i would need to give it more than 500 to trick microsoft accounting express to work
[09:45] <phorensic> Dr_willis: edward: Is he referring to "hardware drivers"
[09:45] <Limitt> could i give it some swap just to trick the microsoft accounting express to load up
[09:46] <edward_> i meant restricted
[09:46] <Limitt> im sure it would run on less ram .. maybe a lil slower
[09:46] <Dr_willis> phorensic,  jockey-gtk is the command to run the hardware-drivers program  the icon name is 'hardware drivers' the actual binary is called jockey-gtk I belive
[09:46] <edward_> because thats what i have to install to get special effects workin
[09:46] <edward_> im using
[09:46] <trimeta> So, no advice on working with ext4 in 8.10?
[09:46] <phorensic> edward_: I think you have to reboot after the activation
[09:46] <Limitt> could i allocate likee 256 regular ram and 256 swap?
[09:46] <edward_> ati/amd prop fglrx graphics driver
[09:46] <edward_> thats the wrong one
[09:46] <edward_> right?
[09:46] <KingRouting> Can anyone tell me the path for a second partition on hda?
[09:47] <trimeta> KingRouting: /dev/hda2, I'd think.
[09:47] <phorensic> trimeta: I think i heard you might want to wait until Jaunty.. other wise you have to compile the kernel for the support??
[09:47] <Dr_willis> KingRouting,  most drives  have 'sd##' type names now. even if they are ide drives
[09:47] <_2> trimeta unless you are a filesystem developer   i would advise you wait until ext4 goes main stream
[09:47] <prince_jammys> KingRouting: run 'sudo fdisk -l' and see
[09:47] <BigMike> sda (0.1)
[09:47] <BigMike> 0,1
[09:47] <trimeta> phorensic: Yea, that was what I was worried about.
[09:47] <_2> trimeta but then again i still use ext2   so   pfft
[09:48] <Dr_willis> Of course GRUB names drives totally differently
[09:48] <BigMike> yess
[09:48] <trimeta> _2: It's non-experimental in the latest kernel, and I'm edgy enough to try it for myself, though I wouldn't put it on a server yet.
[09:48] <_2> trimeta but until they release it in the distro it will be pretty unsupported
[09:49] <Veratyr9b> ziroday: what version of ubuntu was xorg.conf depreciated?
[09:49] <econnrefused> ok now this is annoying
[09:49] <trimeta> _2: I'm actually installing Gentoo in a separate partition, and plan on accessing my Gentoo stuff from within Ubuntu...
[09:49] <_2>                                                                                                                                       GRUB2   FTW !
[09:49] <trimeta> So read/write is all I'd need.
[09:49] <KingRouting> prince_jannys: i'm guessing thats the string i would use to designate a move or copy, correct?
[09:49] <econnrefused> unplugged the second monitor and my laptop screen is still blurry / unusable
[09:49] <phorensic> trimeta: ANy particular reason why you want ext4 so bad?
[09:49] <sanny> how to install lamp
[09:49] <prince_jammys> KingRouting: no, that just tells you the device files
[09:49] <_2> trimeta so you can still mount ext4 as ext2     no ?
[09:50] <phorensic> _2: I thought it was ext4 as ext3
[09:50] <trimeta> phorensic: As noted, I'm installing Gentoo on a separate partition...bleeding-edge and all that.
[09:50] <prince_jammys> KingRouting: what are you trying to do?
[09:50] <KingRouting> prince_jannys: srry, the /dev/sda3 is what i need. i would use it as the tag
[09:50] <prince_jammys> KingRouting: is it mounted? what are you doing with it?
[09:50] <trimeta> _2: I enabled extents, so it can't be mounted as ext3 anymore.
[09:50] <KingRouting> storing vmware modules one
[09:50] <_2> all ext3 is, is ext2 + journal     so you should be able to mount ext# as ext2
[09:51] <_2> trimeta have you tried as ext2 ?
[09:51] <_2> maybe i'm wrong
[09:51] <KingRouting> prince_jannys: it is mounted, just setting a string in hte config file
[09:51] <trimeta> _2: Yes, and I still get a "bad fs" error...maybe if I force it...
[09:51] <prince_jammys> KingRouting: /etc/fstab ?
[09:51] <_2> trimeta don't break an fs just to answer my Q
[09:52] <Veratyr9> all my secondary boxes are ubuntu, about to make the final switch on my main pc.  Question, how reliable is NTFS support nowdays in ubuntu? i know there were some bugs back in the day that made it not worth it
[09:52] <ormecuro> how can i uninstall a software in ubuntu
[09:52] <trimeta> _2: I haven't put anything on it yet, breaking it won't hurt anything.
[09:52] <prince_jammys> ormecuro: sudo apt-get remove nameofpackage
[09:52] <_2> i haven't read up  on ext4 yet   i probably should
[09:52] <_2> !ext4
[09:52] <prince_jammys> ormecuro: or use synaptic and mark the package to be removed
[09:53] <xanax`> Is there a way to force gnome to allow automatIc root logIn (I know It's unsafe, but I want to do It anyway). I already edIted gdm.conf to allow root logIns but I can't automatIcally connect to thIs account In gdm
[09:53] <ormecuro> prince_jammys: it is not listed in synaptic,i had installed from source
[09:53] <sanny> how to install lamp
[09:53] <xanax`> is there a way to bypass this security warning ?
[09:53] <KingRouting> prince_jannys: actually no, its not listed in the fstab
[09:53] <econnrefused> can anyone please point me to some information about how to configure virtual resolution or whatever it is that has screwed up my laptop display
[09:54] <KingRouting> prince_jannys: only sda1&2
[09:54] <prince_jammys> ormecuro: ah. then you'll have to either follow directions from wherever you got it, or track down the files and remove them.
[09:54] <fprint-mobile> ff
[09:54] <BigMike> bark
[09:54] <_2> ubottu ext4 is information about the ext4 file system can be found at http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/
[09:55] <ormecuro> prince_jammys: when you install a software ,where did the files locate
[09:55] <ormecuro> commonly
[09:55] <prince_jammys> ormecuro: various places
[09:56] <prince_jammys> ormecuro: config files usually go to /etc, executables to /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin, perhaps ... there not all in one place.
[09:56] <BigMike> is there an fsck log somewhere?
[09:56] <roccity_> I finally reinstalled ubuntu from the moni cd
[09:56] <roccity_> wanna say thanks to the channel
[09:57] <phorensic> sanny: here is one way: sudo apt-get install apache2 mysql-server php5 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-xsl php5-gd php-pear libapache2-mod-auth-mysql php5-mysql
[09:57] <_2> ormecuro linux doesn't work that way.  it scatters files all over the dirrectory tree    if you want to see where it put the files in a specific package use     dpkg -L specific-package-name
[09:58] <prince_jammys> he installed it himself, not through apt
[09:58] <_2> BigMike obviously it can't log anything at boot time when checking the root fs   there would be no where to write the log but in ram.
[09:58] <phorensic> econnrefused: You cant use the system-prefs-screen resolution?
[09:58] <BigMike> ok nothing to tell hyou what it did afterwards?
[09:59] <ormecuro> prince_jammys: thank you,there is no manuel about uninstalling the software which i installed and it is not listed in spnaptic or add/remove applications
[09:59] <_2> prince_jammys heh   then he'll either have to look in the makefile or use find against the timestamp
[09:59] <ormecuro> prince_jammys: so i don't know how to remove it
[09:59] <powerpc-733> ﻿I've installed 8.04.1 alternative on a PowerMac G4 733Mhz, why is the sound not working?
[09:59] <trimeta> ormecuro: Where did you get the software from?
[09:59] <BigMike> nothing similar to a scandisk log at all
[09:59] <prince_jammys> ormecuro: since you didn't install through apt, you'll have to track down the files and remove them.
[09:59] <_2> ormecuro make uninstall
[09:59] <econnrefused> phorensic: nope, since I configured the second display the options in preferences have changed
[10:00] <_2> often there is a "make uninstall" option
[10:00] <phorensic> econnrefused: hmm its not an nvidia driver is it?
[10:00] <ormecuro> trimeta: http://www.sagemath.org/  from here
[10:00] <econnrefused> I have no idea in the slightests, its an acer aspire laptop
[10:01] <trimeta> ormecuro: I mean, how did you install it?
[10:01] <edward> ok guys
[10:01] <edward> so now
[10:01] <ormecuro> trimeta: i had built it with make command
[10:01] <phorensic> econnrefused: Haven't really tried that function of my laptop yet so i dunno
[10:02] <edward> the reboot did not successfully activate the restricted drivers
[10:02] <trimeta> ormecuro: OK, if you built it with the make command, and you still have the source tree you built it from, do as _2 suggested and try running "make uninstall"
[10:02] <edward> what can i do?
[10:02] <toehio> _2: Why is it that when I boot normally, it hangs at "starting hald" but when I boot in recovery mode and run "telinit 3" everytihing starts up fine?
[10:02] <ormecuro> trimeta: i had tried make uninstall but it did not worked
[10:02] <KingRouting> prince_jannys: /media/disk-1 (turns out to be it) thx for the info
[10:02] <sanny> this is long cammand
[10:03] <trimeta> ormecuro: You could do make install again, watch where it puts things, then manually delete them.
[10:03] <prince_jammys> KingRouting: ok
[10:03] <econnrefused> I can put screenshots up but I think the screenshots will be grabbed at this virtual resolution and look fine
[10:03] <phorensic> sanny: copy/paste? ctrl-shift+v to paste in terminal??
[10:03] <trimeta> sanny: Why do you want to install LAMP? What are you doing on your server?
[10:04] <prince_jammys> sanny: i sent you a link twice that shows you how to install lamp
[10:04] <econnrefused> http://arandomurl.com/stuff/Desktop.png is old, http://arandomurl.com/stuff/Dual.png is new
[10:04] <ormecuro> trimeta: ok,thanks i wil try
[10:04] <econnrefused> but again, that screenshot probably looks nothing like what I can see
[10:04] <ziroday> Veratyr9: 8.10 iirc, possibly 8.04
[10:05] <sanny> over here in my company riquriment of localhost
[10:05] <econnrefused> which is beginning to give me a headache
[10:05] <trimeta> sanny: What do you mean, "requirement of localhost"?
[10:06] <atari2600a> hey
[10:06] <econnrefused> is this the "official" ubuntu room or is there another network?
[10:06] <atari2600a> I'm having trouble w/ alien arena
[10:06] <sanny> this is webdevelopment company
[10:06] <atari2600a> graphics  are very corrupted
[10:07] <atari2600a> I even tried converting hte latest RPM release & using that
[10:07] <atari2600a> still the same thing
[10:07] <atari2600a> can someone help me on this?
[10:07] <sanny> hi friend please help me
[10:08] <_2> econnrefused this is the official
[10:08] <Dr_willis> econnrefused,  this is about as official as it officially gets. :)
[10:09] <econnrefused> yay
[10:09] <trimeta> sanny: The machine you want to install LAMP on, does it already have stuff on it, or do you want to start from scratch? It's easiest to install LAMP using the Ubuntu Server CD.
[10:09] <prince_jammys> !lamp | sanny : follow this guide
[10:09] <econnrefused> is there any way to zap where the configurations get stored for virtual resolutions
[10:09] <_2> toehio because recovery mode uses more conservitive settings
[10:10] <prince_jammys> i'll tell you how you DON'T install lamp: keep asking in this channel, and never read that guide.
[10:10] <roccity_> anyone recommend a good ubuntu podcast
[10:10] <toehio> _2: How could I 'fix' the normal boot then?
[10:10] <alpaka>  I just downloaded gigabytes of messages and deleted all of them (2800 messages), now neither I can empty the trash nor I can delete them from the trash individually
[10:10] <alpaka> when I press the delete button it moves to the next message without deleting the message
[10:10] <alpaka> ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex
[10:10] <Dybber> Can anyone tell me why I can't get my capslock to act as a control in 8.10? I have inserted the line with ctrl:nocaps in my xorg.conf as I always do, but it doesn't seem to work.
[10:11] <_2> toehio i really don't know.  you will need one of the developers on that.   and this is notoriously a bad time to look for help   about 12 hours off the peek.
[10:11] <econnrefused> ok, if I delete .config/monitors.xml will my laptop die?
[10:12] <_2> toehio i'm not saying there aren't any awake yet.  just that they are probably busy.    so patience is a verute
[10:12] <_2> ue
[10:12] <toehio> _2: thanks
[10:12] <toehio> _2: ive been trying to get it to work of about 6 months now
[10:12] <trimeta> Dybber: Try going to System>Preferences>Keyboard>Layouts>Other Options...>Ctrl key position
[10:12] <_2> econnrefused no it wont.
[10:13] <econnrefused> ok, ill give this a shot then
[10:13] <_2> toehio have you asked in  ##linux   sometimes if i need answers i'm not getting here i go there
[10:13] <_2> this channel is generally less technecal than the general linux channels
[10:14] <toehio> _2: thank you. I go there sometimes but i thought this was a more ubuntu-oriented channel
[10:14] <Dybber> trimeta: this only works after some of the gnome-things starts, I'm using another window-manager and other customizations, so that doesn't work :(
[10:14] <_2> too many generals in that army   ;/
[10:15] <_2> toehio it is.   and if you catch the right people helping in here they can solve your problem.  unfortunately i'm not he
[10:15] <trimeta> Dybber: Sorry; that's how it works on my system.
[10:15] <trimeta> There's always xmodmap funkiness, but that's even harder to set up.
[10:16] <JarodLee> hello
[10:16] <econnrefused> nothing :|
[10:18] <n838901> hello. can someone pastebin me the vanilla rc.local from 8.10 Server?  I accidentally hosed mine :)
[10:19] <Dr_willis> rc.local by default has comments and one line. exit (0) at the end .. i recall.
[10:19]  * _2 usually breaks something  then forgets about it for a while and stumbles onto it wondering why it's not working, comes in here asking all sorts of stupid questions, goes to ##linux doing the same,  then remembers what he did that caused it, and quietly fixes it....
[10:20] <Dr_willis> rc.local -> several commentz and  'exit 0' at the end
[10:20] <Dr_willis> first line -> #!/bin/sh -e
[10:20] <_2> n838901 venella rc.local is empty basicly      as Dr_willis said
[10:20] <n838901> dr_willis: I can't remember the syntax to run commands.. is it absolute path?
[10:21] <Dr_willis> n838901,  from rc.local? full paths would be safest
[10:21] <Dr_willis> #!/bin/sh -e
[10:21] <Dr_willis> commands &  (& may be optional)
[10:21] <Dr_willis> exit 0
[10:21]  * _2 disagrees with -e on that
[10:21] <Dr_willis> cant recall ever seeing -e used befor either
[10:21] <n838901> haha.. i have accidentally overwritten mine with something else
[10:21] <_2> mainly because the user may want it to continue if one command fails.
[10:21] <n838901> what exactly does the '-e' do?
[10:22] <prince_jammys> bash exits if any command fails
[10:22] <_2> exit imediately upon error
[10:22] <n838901> oh ok
[10:22] <n838901> so better to leave that off
[10:22] <_2> suscently   -e == error && exit
[10:22] <Dr_willis> I imagine it depends on thecommands you are doing. :)
[10:22] <n838901> been using linux for years but just now getting into bash scripting :D
[10:22] <B|ackPanther> How can i remove anything related to hamachi in my computer ?
[10:23] <_2> generaly speaking i don't like -e
[10:25] <Dr_willis> n838901,  that advanced bash scripting guide. is a must read.. and must reread every month. :)P
[10:25]  * econnrefused considers rm ~/.*
[10:25] <n838901> Dr_willis: haha
[10:26] <_2> econnrefused that may regex out,  rm ~/.?*   would protect the dot
[10:26] <n838901> is there anywhere to get vanilla config files in case i need them?
[10:26] <GnomeKing> Hi :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/112000/ When I connect my external USB mouse to my laptop, the kernel seems to register it fine but it is unresponsive in X.  I have confirmed that xev returns no events from the mouse even though the kernel seems to have detected it fine...
[10:26] <toehio> _2: I feel like smashing my computer! How the !$*@ can ubuntu not work on it! it can't even boot properly! even my windows works better than it!
[10:26] <_2> else .* == everything
[10:26] <GnomeKing> Any suggestions how to get my usb mouse working in X?
[10:27] <econnrefused> actually that might work
[10:27] <n838901> toehio: i had a laptop like that
[10:27] <_2> toehio you have tried with boot options   noacpi  acpi=off   ?
[10:27] <prince_jammys> econnrefused: what do you want to remove?
[10:27] <n838901> toehio: ...i sold it :D
[10:27] <_2> toehio nosplash  ?
[10:27] <toehio> n838901: ha ha ha
[10:28] <toehio> _2: do i do that from grub?
[10:28] <_2> toehio vga=0x0f04
[10:28] <econnrefused> how can I find any files that have changed in the the last hours or so?
[10:28] <_2> toehio yes
[10:28] <toehio> _2: i will try
[10:28] <_2> toehio i'm just throwing out thoughts.   kinda a shot in the dark
[10:28] <n838901> toehio: it would boot with noapic and nolapic but i would lose hardware connectivity..ie wlan and usb
[10:28] <econnrefused> prince_jammys: I plugged a second monitor into my laptop, agreed to change virtual resolution
[10:29] <_2> toehio oh yeah and  nolapic
[10:29] <econnrefused> my second screen displayed fine, but my laptop resolution has gone blurry, and wont go back after taking out the other monitor, restarting, deleting monitors.xml etc
[10:30] <_2> econnrefused sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg   ?
[10:31] <B|ackPanther> I want to remove all files with the word hamachi on my machine but doing rm | locate hamachi does not seem to work
[10:31] <B|ackPanther> Any ideas ?
[10:32] <trimeta> B|ackPanther: You mean, all files whose names contain hamachi, or all files which contain hamachi within them?
[10:32] <_2> yea  your pipe is backwords
[10:32] <prince_jammys> B|ackPanther: anywhere in your file system?
[10:32] <econnrefused> tried, brb
[10:32] <HellB0y> ¾È³çÇÏ¼¼¿ä^^*
[10:32] <ani_> Hello to all,i have a problem with my connection i fill the eth0 field and the internet in connected,when i turn off my pc auto eth0 are empty so i got to wirte the ips again ,what should i do to make configuration default not permanent
[10:32] <toehio> _2: ok, that made it boot!
[10:32] <B|ackPanther> price_jammys, anywhere in my system.I want to get rid of the hamachi files
[10:32] <_2> toehio which one ?
[10:32] <trimeta> B|ackPanther: You mean, files whose names contain hamachi?
[10:33] <toehio> i used all of them :)
[10:33] <_2> :)))
[10:33] <prince_jammys> B|ackPanther: this first, and remove the echo if the output looks good: find / -name '*hamachi*' -exec echo rm {} \;
[10:33] <B|ackPanther> trimeta, yes but i hope that wont mess up my computer.
[10:33] <_2> toehio so start removing them until you find the one that hanges
[10:33] <toehio> _2: ok
[10:33] <toehio> you know that message you get when you start gdm that asks you to configure it?
[10:34] <trimeta> B|ackPanther: To remove all files whose names contain hamachi, you'd do "locate hamachi | remove", as long as none of the file names have whitespace in them.
[10:34] <_2> toehio no...
[10:34] <_2> sorry
[10:34] <econnrefused1> thank god I can see again
[10:34] <econnrefused1> thanks
[10:34] <toehio> i put in a high resolution (1680x1050) and click save but it goes back to 800x600
[10:34] <_2> toehio i'm an avid console user,   the gui i seldom see
[10:34] <toehio> _2: oh
[10:34] <trimeta> I would definitely do a plain "locate hamachi" to verify that everything looks good before running it through rm.
[10:35] <neeco> bye now, thanksx all
[10:35] <prince_jammys> B|ackPanther: you can't pipe to rm anyway. use the find command i posted
[10:35] <_2> trimeta you have a command called "remove" ???
[10:36] <trimeta> _2: rm, sorry.
[10:36] <toehio> acpi=off solved it!
[10:36] <Gauntlet> I changed my resolution higher than my screen allows and I couldnt see anything and couldnt even see the login screen. I re installed the nvidia drivers hoping it would go back to the default 1024x768 and it did but on on the login screen. As soon as I log in the resolution changes.
[10:36] <toehio> _2: what does acpi=off do?
[10:36] <_2> trimeta and you can pipe into "rm" ?
[10:36] <Warglass> Hi
[10:37] <trimeta> _2: Well, no, I guess not. xargs it is, then.
[10:37] <_2> toehio turns kernel support for acpi (power management)  off
[10:37] <trimeta> I suppose I didn't really think that through too much.
[10:37] <toehio> _2: if always use acpi=off could there be any problems?
[10:37] <_2> trimeta i'm sorry for being such a pain.  but how about     rm `locate blah`
[10:37] <spz> hi there! Why does on my recently installed xfce-desktop pop up that gnome-desktop? (got the gnome sticky paper applett in the taskbar - is the desktop started by it?)
[10:38] <prince_jammys> _2: real dangerous
[10:38] <_2> toehio is it a laptop ?
[10:38] <B|ackPanther> prince_jammys,thanks .seems to work but i dont really understand why it does.
[10:38] <toehio> _2: no, big desktop
[10:38] <Gauntlet> I changed my resolution higher than my screen allows and I couldnt see anything and couldnt even see the login screen. I re installed the nvidia drivers hoping it would go back to the default 1024x768 and it did but only on the login screen. As soon as I log in the resolution changes.
[10:38] <prince_jammys> B|ackPanther: if you remove the echo, the files will be deleted.
[10:38] <trimeta> _2: Does rm's blank-separated argument list accept newlines as separators?
[10:38] <_2> prince_jammys nah  the origenal user was trying to delete hamachi
[10:39] <prince_jammys> _2: nope. anything containing hamachi
[10:39] <prince_jammys> trimeta: the arguments are handled by the shell, not by rm
[10:40] <_2> trimeta good point  heh   so we have several things to overcome   the "propper" way to attack this would be     find ...   or with locate     locate hamachi | while read q ;do rm "$q" ;done
[10:40] <B|ackPanther> You know the amazing thing with that script you gave out prince_jammys is if actually listed the message i just typed in here which contains hamachi.
[10:41] <B|ackPanther> *it
[10:41] <prince_jammys> B|ackPanther: huh?
[10:41] <trimeta> _2: Probably in the end, I'd do something like "locate -0 hamachi | xargs -0 | rm"
[10:41] <prince_jammys> and you'd get a broken pipe error
[10:41] <B|ackPanther> The sentence i typed  in here that contains hamachi is also listed in the terminal
[10:41] <_2> trimeta you still can't pipe into rm
[10:42] <trimeta> Delete the last pipe, then.
[10:42] <prince_jammys> let's do whatever we can to avoid using find, which is the best tool for this
[10:42] <_2> B|ackPanther irc log file
[10:42] <trimeta> prince_jammys: I have an aversion to find; it seems to reliably give me no results unless I finesse it heavily. Of course, I haven't exactly demonstrate competence here.
[10:42] <trimeta> *demonstrated
[10:43] <_2> prince_jammys that was the first answer.   don't gripe because we were looking at other (probably less effecient) ways   this is linux you know
[10:43] <B|ackPanther> What are the chances that if i deleted anything with the word "hamachi " i will messup my system ?
[10:44] <prince_jammys> B|ackPanther: that's why i put 'echo' in the command. so you can verify.
[10:44] <_2> B|ackPanther slim  but you should still use caution
[10:45] <sachael> hi guys, is there a deb for google gadgets?
[10:46] <_2> apt-cache search google
[10:46] <prince_jammys> there's google earth, available through apt
[10:46] <scientes> how can i make ntpdate run at bootup?
[10:47] <_2> init script
[10:48] <Gauntlet> I changed my resolution higher than my screen allows and I couldnt see anything and couldnt even see the login screen. I re installed the nvidia drivers hoping it would go back to the default 1024x768 and it did but only on the login screen. As soon as I log in the resolution changes.
[10:49] <Bodsda> Gauntlet, press ctrl+alt+f1   and use vim to edit the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file  or just delete it,  no harm either way
[10:49] <sachael> ok, did anyone install google gadgets? my friends here is loosing patience in ubuntu because of this...
[10:49] <HotRod> hello
[10:49] <HotRod> how is everyone
[10:50] <prince_jammys> hi
[10:50] <_2> sachael if they let one app make or break their use of linux, i'd tell them to go use windows.
[10:50]  * prince_jammys nods
[10:50] <sachael> _2, i told him that too :)
[10:51] <prince_jammys> is "google gadgets" the name of the app?
[10:51] <n838901> anyone have a problem with their box freezing while running 8.10 server?
[10:51] <Gauntlet> Bodsda I am new so example would be "sudo (letter to delete?) etc/X11/xorg.conf" correct? whats the letter for deleting?
[10:51] <farfan> sachael: he can download a deb package from getdeb.com
[10:51] <_2> !find gadgets
[10:51] <farfan> or download gos gadgets
[10:51] <Bodsda> Gauntlet, sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:51] <Gauntlet> Bodsdat thanks
[10:51] <Bodsda> your welcome
[10:52] <quibbler> sachael: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-install-google-gadgets-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[10:52] <sachael> farfan, thanks, is what was needed
[10:52] <prince_jammys> ha, looks like someone googled your gadgets
[10:53] <_2> Bodsda i hope he's using 8.x
[10:53] <sachael> which one was 8.10 intrepid or hardy?
[10:53] <prince_jammys> sachael: intrepid
[10:53] <quibbler> prince_jammys: ;-)
[10:53] <prince_jammys> quibbler: how ironic
[10:53] <n838901> sachael: intrepid
[10:53] <HotRod> iam haveing problams with my VirtualBox it want read usb
[10:54] <Bodsda> _2, why
[10:54] <quibbler> prince_jammys: indeed
[10:54] <_2> Bodsda because removing xorg.conf on earlier versions will break xorg
[10:54] <banttu> puppylinux
[10:55] <_2> and yes i know he can reconfugre to make a new one
[10:55]  * prince_jammys would like to smack whoever changed the use of xorg.conf, right after i learn to edit it properly
[10:55] <tul_> No Volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[10:55]  * _2 nods
[10:55] <tul_>  again and again. what can i do with that SHITTTTT!@!!!1!11
[10:55] <tul_>  i want to hear sound in my OS!
[10:55] <tul_>  it worked yesterday and today again!!!1 DAMN!!!!!
[10:55] <FloodBot1> tul_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:55] <Bodsda> _2, no it wont, it will just make a minimal xorg when you log in -- or just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from tty1 or whatever
[10:55] <tul_>  two days of having sound working on the last year of using ubuntu.
[10:55] <farfan> has anyone had problems with kernel 2.6.27.11 and fglrx driver? i get black screen when i activate the driver
[10:57] <_2> Bodsda i'll have to reboot to argue with yuou about that,  i can't see a thing after testing to make surte
[10:58] <tul_> any1 knows anything about alsa?
[10:59] <tul_> No Volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[10:59] <tul_>  again and again. what can i do with that SHITTTTT!@!!!1!11
[10:59] <tul_>  i want to hear sound in my OS!
[10:59] <tul_>  it worked yesterday and today again!!!1 DAMN!!!!!
[10:59] <tul_>  two days of having sound working on the last year of using ubuntu.
[10:59] <FloodBot1> tul_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:00] <mr_snarf> Hi, I'm trying to set up ubuntu 8.10 server edition, and wish to use lvm. When I ran "sudo apt-get install lvm2", it say "Package lvm2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.". Everything I can find online suggests I shouldn't need to do more than use apt-get. Anyone experienced this?
[11:00] <Agent_bob> now i can argue about it.
[11:01] <Agent_bob> i probably fat fingured several of those keys
[11:01] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: maybe you need to enable some repositories
[11:01] <prince_jammys> !info lvm2
[11:01] <mr_snarf> the default ones wouldn't have it?
[11:01] <Agent_bob> but anyway deleting xorg on dapper will leave me typing in the dark, and i'm a console user.
[11:01] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: ok, scrap that. it's in main.
[11:01] <Agent_bob> xorg.conf that is.
[11:01] <mr_snarf> hrm
[11:02]  * _2 is me
[11:02] <mr_snarf> what do you mean by "its in main" ?
[11:02] <PrebenR> Why doesn't reportbug work in ubuntu?
[11:03] <_2> mr_snarf see ubottu ^
[11:03] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: it's in "component main" so you don't need to enable anything
[11:03] <mr_snarf> oh, ok
[11:03] <prince_jammys> well, other than main, which presumably is already enabled
[11:04] <mr_snarf> meaning in sources.list?
[11:04] <_2> by default
[11:04] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: yes
[11:04] <mr_snarf> I'm not used to using apt-get
[11:04] <mr_snarf> all the lines with 'main' also have 'restricted' after it
[11:04] <HotRod> Does any one  know how to get version of VirtualBox that supports USB Cause iam trying to save a VM on my USB Flash Drive
[11:05] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: that's ok
[11:05] <Dr_willis> HotRod,  i think you need the one from the web site. not the repos for that.
[11:06] <HotRod> ok do i need to got to www.virtualbox.com or what is the website
[11:06] <dayo_> HotRod: http://www.virtualbox.org         And you need to enable USB
[11:06] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: they are lists of the components you have enabled. 'main' and 'restricted' are separate. the 'restricted' does not refer to main
[11:06] <HotRod> ok ill try that thank you
[11:06] <mr_snarf> prince_jammys: that makes sense, thanks
[11:06] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: in other words, the problem is somewhere else
[11:07] <dayo_> HotRod: http://stikiflem.wordpress.com/2008/08/30/enable-usb-support-in-virtualbox/
[11:09] <HotRod> thanks dayo ill look into that also
[11:12] <mr_snarf> It also says "E: Package lvm2 has no installation candidate
[11:12] <mr_snarf> "
[11:12] <PrebenR> Why doesn't reportbug work in ubuntu?
[11:13] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: have you been able to install other packages without a problem?
[11:13] <mr_snarf> I haven't tried any specific ones, but I've down an apt-get upgrade and apt-get dist-upgrade successfully
[11:14] <nomingzi> I am running Ubuntu 8.10 x64 English, how can I enable it to input(keyboard) in Chinese characters (Pinyin)? Pls advise, thanks.
[11:14] <quibbler> I have several 3rd party reprositories under software sources...medibuntu,winehq,launchpad etc... how can i determine what programs exits in what repository
[11:15] <ezibabler> PrebenR: because there is no bug :)
[11:15] <Dr_willis> quibbler,  the synaptic package manager has a filter feature for that.
[11:15] <musicanti2006> Qualcuno sa come si fa ad entrare nella chat di libero?
[11:15] <PrebenR> ezibabler, well reportbug has one ;-)
[11:16] <prince_jammys> ha
[11:16] <PrebenR> ezibabler, problem is that reportbug doesn't read reportbugrc and insist on using some ubuntu smtp which I don't have access to
[11:16] <quibbler> Dr_willis: yes i know but some list are very long and i am looking for a faster way to search them
[11:16] <mr_snarf> prince_jammys: I'm trying to find a package to specifically run 'sudo apt-get install <package>' and see if same problem occurs
[11:17] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: ok. worth a try
[11:17] <mr_snarf> I get the same error with "apt-get install emacs"
[11:17] <nutzer> nutzer
[11:18] <c0p3rn1c> how do I get my "alt" key working again on my dell latitude d830 laptop
[11:19] <c0p3rn1c> ?
[11:19] <robin0800> mr_snarf: try sudo aptitude search "package name"
[11:20] <mr_snarf> is aptitude the same as apt-get ?
[11:20] <robin0800> yes but better
[11:20] <vvd> hey, why isnt aptitude updating my kernel headers on a kernel update and dmks not installing fglrx? (ive switched from default to -rt kernel)? ty
[11:20] <mr_snarf> robin0800: it doesn't produce any output
[11:21] <nonix4> Eww... can the resolv.conf "search" feature be disabled entirely?
[11:21] <nonix4> ie instead of "ndots" option, skip search on anything that has dots?
[11:22] <mr_snarf> That is, nothing shows up for "lvm2", but has 13 hits for "lvm"...but none seem to be right
[11:22] <mr_snarf> most are "llvm"
[11:22] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: hm. your sources.list might be the problem
[11:22] <c0p3rn1c> n/m
[11:22] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: if you can't even install emacs
[11:23] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: (which amusingly was the package i was going to recommend as a test)
[11:23] <lucifer_Star> Does any one know what .run files are, I'm trying to install Cuda...
[11:23] <mr_snarf> when I installed from disc, there was no working network (had to manually get driver later)
[11:23] <mr_snarf> heh
[11:23] <Dr_willis> lucifer_Star,  'sh whateveer.run' or 'sudo sh whatever.run'
[11:23] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: you should pastebin the file and someone here will look at it
[11:24] <prince_jammys> !pastebin | mr_snarf
[11:24] <robin0800> mr_snarf: this is what I got http://paste.ubuntu.com/112023/
[11:24] <mr_snarf> was just checking out the pastebin :)
[11:24] <scizzo-> has anyone tried going from ext3 to ext4 on a ibex system yet?
[11:24] <mr_snarf> I get hits when I search for emacs, but not lvm2
[11:25] <Medalgod> morning all :) Just wondered if anyone could tell me how to set the file browser to open a terminal, run a command and close afterwards (when i click on a file)
[11:26] <Dr_willis> Medalgod,  just make a script that does the commands  you need.. make it executable.. and click on it.. or did i missread...
[11:26] <robin0800> mr_snarf: I get this p   lvm2                                                           - The Linux Logical Volume Manager
[11:26] <mr_snarf> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112026/
[11:27] <Medalgod> Dr_willis: well I suppose that would work, but I've done it  before and know theres a simple one liner... see I want to pass the file i want a command to operate on to the terminal too, which with the file browser is a simple %s, rather than having to script for variables too :p
[11:27] <rcm20> Hey Everyone! Who can help me to config my Bluetooth device?? Please help// Znam też język Polski
[11:27] <tomek> czesc
[11:28] <atomekk> hello/ czesc :)
[11:28] <atomekk> And i've got problem with reboot and shutdown :/
[11:28] <rcm20> czesc! Pomozesz mi?
[11:28] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: you could try to include 'main' in all the lines
[11:28] <tomek> rcm20 ->> priv
[11:28] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: make a backup first
[11:28] <mr_snarf> ok
[11:29] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: all my lines have all the components in each
[11:29] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: eg. blahblah  main restricted universe, for example
[11:29] <mr_snarf> interesting, I'll try that
[11:30] <mr_snarf> I don't know why mine wouldn't be like that though
[11:30] <lucifer_Star> thanks for the help all done...
[11:30] <elkbuntu> i'm looking at getting a laptop that has the intel x3100 graphics chipset. what's the current status in terms of working or failing?
[11:31] <ziroday> elkbuntu: may be interesting to you http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Graphics_Media_Accelerator_X3100
[11:32] <dsfq> salut
[11:32] <Don_Miguel> !po | rcm20
[11:32] <Dr_willis> Medalgod,  gnome/nautilus has some sort of scripting feature also that can add context menus..  that run scripts like that..    but its a overlooked feature
[11:32] <mr_snarf> nope, that didn't work
[11:33] <mr_snarf> maybe I could try us server?
[11:33] <dsfq> hello
[11:33] <elkbuntu> ziroday, i cant figure if that's saying i have to mess with config files or not...
[11:33] <dsfq> hey
[11:33] <Dr_willis> Medalgod,  see http://g-scripts.sourceforge.net/
[11:33] <fgz> Hi, I've just received one of those "check out the awesome pics..." virus message on emesene... from a contact who is actually offline now (my gf) with whom i share this computer and so she uses emesene too
[11:33] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: sudo apt-get update   first
[11:33] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: and then try to install lvm2
[11:33] <mr_snarf> did that
[11:33] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: ok
[11:33] <fgz> i mean i didn't know this virus existed for linux too ???
[11:33] <dsfq>  i'd like to know if we can retrieve the notes from an installation using another installation? via the files?
[11:33] <dsfq> notes from the notepad tool
[11:33] <ziroday> elkbuntu: It doesn't appear so, there appears to be bug with resume from suspend but other then that you're good. The wiki page is somewhat old as well
[11:33] <mr_snarf> it appeared to fail on the ones I added 'main' to (directory didn't exist)
[11:34] <pogay> I installed ubuntustudio 8.10, when I placed a starter (mozilla, Evolution) the running tasks, wich are placed also on the top are not visible anymore. How can I access the panel, where the running tasks are placed?
[11:34] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: if you get stuck here, there's also #ubuntu-server, i think
[11:34] <elkbuntu> ziroday, i was hoping for actual up-to-date feedback. out of date stuff google gives me quite readily
[11:35] <ziroday> elkbuntu: sure
[11:35] <mr_snarf> this may be important: To install make (to allow me to build and install my network drivers), I had to do "sudo apt-cdrom add", and install from cd. I later commented out the lines it had added to sources.list
[11:35] <mr_snarf> oh, didn't realise that channel was there, woops
[11:36] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: i looked for that, but figured that since the lines were commented out, there would be no problem
[11:37] <mr_snarf> could you pastbin your sources.list file, and I could try that maybe?
[11:37] <mr_snarf> or just the server address anyway
[11:37] <amischi_> i have a problem with panel
[11:37] <amischi_> disappeared
[11:38] <amischi_> i dont see icoin on the bottom
[11:38] <amischi_> and menu start
[11:38] <bullgard4> What DEB program package does provide the file /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/Documenatation/i2c/dev-interface in Ubuntu 8.04.2? packages.ubuntu.com could not find it.
[11:38] <amischi_> i mean applications
[11:38] <zeltak> hi
[11:38] <zeltak> anyone know how to make screen autostart when no gui is present (no gnome or kde..)?
[11:38] <js_> is there a vnc server installed that i can tell my friend to enable so i can help him out a bit+
[11:38] <amischi_> i can click with button on mouse at the right
[11:38] <ziroday> amischi: is gnome-panel running?
[11:38] <mr_snarf> nevermind actually, found the server I wnated
[11:38] <js_> i need to see the same screen as he does
[11:38] <amischi_> i have xubuntu
[11:39] <ziroday> amischi: in that case xfce4-panel, you can check with ps aux | grep xfce4-panel
[11:39] <amischi_> anyway with mouse( i have a laptop) I CAN START WITH EVERYTHING
[11:40] <ziroday> js_: yes under System > Preferences > Remote Desktop. But to work over the internet he will have to setup port forwarding
[11:40] <amischi_> is it possible that the problem is java sun
[11:40] <ziroday> amischi: I am still not sure what the problem is, can you go over it again please?
[11:40] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: mine would be no good. i run hardy
[11:40] <js_> ziroday: yeah, that's already done, thanks
[11:41] <ziroday> js_: you might want to take a look at http://code.google.com/p/gitso/ however YMMV with it
[11:42] <amischi_> gnome panel rubbing
[11:43] <amischi_> but is not shown the icon on the top and botton
[11:44] <ziroday> amischi: could you take a screenshot and upload it please, I still can't quite understand you're problem.
[11:44] <mr_snarf> hey, it worked! Using archive.ubuntu.com instead of au.archive.ubuntu.com
[11:44] <mr_snarf> odd
[11:44] <ziroday> amischi: also what is your native language? You might have better luck there
[11:44] <mr_snarf> I'll have to investigate that further
[11:44] <amischi_> i m with you
[11:45] <binarymutant> anyon know how to get cellwriter, or some other OSK, to work with GDM?
[11:47] <prince_jammys> mr_snarf: cool
[11:47] <mr_snarf> prince_jammys, robin0800: thanks for you help, I've got lvm2 installed now. Next step is to find out why I coudln't get it before using au repos
[11:49] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  i think the gdm config file has some extra settings to run extra programs.. but ive never used tht feature
[11:49] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, in gconf somewhere?
[11:50] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  No.. in the gdm.conf  config file
[11:50] <bullgard4> What DEB program package does provide the file /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/Documenatation/i2c/dev-interface in Ubuntu 8.04.2? packages.ubuntu.com could not find it.
[11:50] <Dr_willis>  binarymutant  /etc/gdm/gdm.conf* :)
[11:50] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, Thanks for the help, I'll check it out :)
[11:50] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  theres a 'user custmized one ' that you are supposed to tweak as you want
[11:51] <ezerhoden> bullgard4: probably the linux-image package for that kernel
[11:51] <bazhang> libi2c-dev, linux-doc-2.6.27 bullgard4
[11:52] <bazhang> or the appropriate number in this case
[11:53] <ezerhoden> bazhang: what is the apt-get command to see that, something like equery belongs in gentoo?
[11:54] <ezerhoden> dpkg command ?
[11:54] <bazhang> ezerhoden, did using the /msg ubottu find dev-interface hardy
[11:54] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  it MIGHT be doable with the    #BackgroundProgram=   option. :) ive used that ages ago to run  xpenginus I think
[11:55] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, oo did the xpenguins work?
[11:57] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  id have to logout to try  again. - i think it orked forme.. like 4 years ago.. I just enabled it again. heh
[11:57] <Dr_willis> BRB to see. :)
[11:59] <Otieno> my Oracle home page not loading in intrepid
[12:00] <joejc> whats a good themeable dock that dosent require compiz?
[12:00] <joejc> hello?
[12:01] <fruit-dude> hello joejc
[12:01] <Dosenelepfand> hi all
[12:01] <joejc> hi
[12:01] <Dr_willis> joejc,  try wbar parhaps.. I hate most of those docks
[12:01] <uni4dfx> how do you make the damn networkmanager not change my routes when i connect to a VPN?
[12:01] <fruit-dude> what's the spanish channel name?
[12:03] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, BrackgroundProgram didn't work for me :(  did you use a full path?
[12:04] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  recheck the config.. theres some comments below that setting - ALSO it may only work for non-themed logins.. i dont have it working here yet. :)
[12:04] <Dr_willis> BRB
[12:04] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:04] <Peleus> Hi all, anyone able to help me get my wireless card working by chance?
[12:06] <Dr_willis> binarymutant i got it working with a 'non-themed' gdm theme.   and this config -->  http://allyourbasearebelongtous.pastebin.com/f6e70357e
[12:06] <bullgard4> ezerhoden: On my computer is installed the DEB program package 'linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic' descibed as "Linux kernel image for version 2.6.24 on x86/x86_64". Do you mean this package?
[12:06] <Dr_willis> so now i got  little penguins running around on my Login screen. :)
[12:07] <Peleus> Anyone who is able to help - I've got an ACX111 Wireless card in Ubuntu 8.10, if someone could tell me how to get it working I would be greatly in your debt
[12:07] <Dr_willis> too bad i cant think of somthing a little more usefull for that.
[12:07] <js_> how can i save the raid array status so it doesn't have to rebuild each boot?
[12:07] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, you play OA? weird question I know
[12:08] <Dr_willis> OA?
[12:08] <binarymutant> openarena
[12:08] <binarymutant> nm
[12:08] <Dr_willis> not much :)
[12:08] <Dr_willis> heh
[12:08] <Dr_willis> i get too dizzy.. and i suck
[12:10] <binarymutant> its just someone else uses the name Bill Gates in oa, brb going to try gdm again ty for the help
[12:10] <wers> i want to know hardware info. what gui app does that? :)
[12:10] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:10] <linduxed> i need to change the inode size of my ext3 partition. since i know (after extensive googling) that the only way to do that is formatting the partition, i need to know how to back up my current system in such a way that everything is preserved exactly as it is now. some kind of disk clone. is that doable?
[12:10] <Dr_willis> I need to write this up in a wiki page.. 'how to auto-run apps' on the GDM login screen
[12:11] <ari_stress> wers: sysinfi
[12:11] <ari_stress> wers: sysinfo
[12:11] <linduxed> i need to change the inode size of my ext3 partition. since i know (after extensive googling) that the only way to do that is formatting the partition, i need to know how to back up my current system in such a way that everything is preserved exactly as it is now. some kind of disk clone. is that doable?
[12:11] <wers> thanks ari_stress :)
[12:11] <Dr_willis> linduxed,  mondo/mindi can clone filesystems.. and proberly a dozen other apps can as well.
[12:11] <Peleus> Anyone who is able to help - I've got an ACX111 Wireless card in Ubuntu 8.10, if someone could tell me how to get it working I would be greatly in your debt
[12:11] <binarymutant> still no luck, oh well
[12:12] <linduxed> Dr_willis: ok will check those out
[12:12] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  i am using a NON-themed gdm theme.  its not that purty.. but it maybe the apps are runningbelow the visiable window
[12:12] <field> ²âÊÔ
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[12:12] <etech> is there any "fast" gnome theme for ubuntu which looks orange/brown
[12:12] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, ya I changed to a nontheme too
[12:12] <etech> human is slower than any other theme
[12:12] <etech> a fast brown/orange theme
[12:13] <binarymutant> etech, huh? how can that be?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  try my gdm.conf (back up yours) and replace xpenguins with whatever it is you want
[12:13] <Dr_willis> brown is slow.. red is fast! :)
[12:13] <etech> i don't know
[12:13] <Dr_willis> how to you even TEST how fast a 'theme' is?
[12:13] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, I did :) I'll try some of the custom commands next
[12:13] <linduxed> Peleus: what kernel do you have?
[12:13] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  did xpenguins work?
[12:14] <uni4dfx> how do you make networkmanager not change my routes when i connect to a VPN?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  as a test.. have it autostart a xterm (dangerous) and then try running whatver apps you want.
[12:14] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, I wasn't trying, just with cellwriter
[12:14] <linduxed> Peleus: do a "uname -r"
[12:14] <BoltClock> does the mbr live separately from storage partitions on a hard disk?
[12:14] <binarymutant> Dr_willis, right I'll try that
[12:14] <wers> on sysinfo, can't i really see my internal webcam's info?
[12:14] <Dr_willis> binarymutant,  you ARE restarting gdm after alterng that config? i think it must be restarted.. not just logged out
[12:15] <etech> human just feels slow
[12:16] <Peleus> Sorry linduxed
[12:16] <Peleus> 2.6.27-7-generic
[12:17] <linduxed> Peleus: hmm, should do for supporting the driver...
[12:17] <linduxed> Peleus: hmmm
[12:18] <Peleus> It detects the card
[12:18] <etech> will openoffice 3.0.1 be in backports for intrepid?
[12:18] <Peleus> I think it does at least
[12:19] <binarymutant> :(
[12:20] <Knetboo> Test
[12:20] <edward> i got it working guys thanks!
[12:20] <BoltClock> does the mbr live separately from storage partitions on a hard disk?
[12:20] <uni4dfx> yes
[12:21] <Peleus> linduxed - pm
[12:21] <Dr_willis> BoltClock,  mbr is the first little bitty bit of the hard drive.
[12:21] <Dr_willis> !mbr
[12:21] <uni4dfx> how to make networkmanager not change my routes when i connect to a VPN?
[12:22] <BoltClock> Dr_willis: so when i install an OS like windows (and it takes over the mbr) but decide to stop using it and remove/format its partition later on, the mbr will still be left unaffected right?
[12:22] <bullgard4> bazhang: The DEB program package linux-doc-2.6.24 does not install a file /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/Documenatation/i2c/dev-interface in Ubuntu 8.04.2 (as you suggested). It rather installs a file /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.24/Documentation/i2c/dev-interface(.gz). What DEB program package installs /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.24/Documenatation/i2c/dev-interface in Ubuntu 8.04.2?
[12:23] <linuxunix> s.a
[12:24] <Dr_willis> BoltClock,  windows would install its own bootloader code to the MBR. formating will not affect the MBR.
[12:24] <linuxunix> s.a
[12:24] <Dr_willis> BoltClock,  specific programs 'write' the mbr -  such as grub/lilo/    (winows -> fdisk \mbr,   fixmbr)
[12:25] <carlitos> hello
[12:25] <Dr_willis> BoltClock,  see    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_boot_record
[12:25] <carlitos> good morning
[12:25] <carlitos> i've got a problem
[12:25] <nomingzi> I am running Ubuntu 8.10 x64 English, how can I enable it to input(keyboard) in Chinese characters (Pinyin)? Pls advise, thanks.
[12:25] <carlitos> can somebody help me??
[12:26] <BoltClock> Dr_willis: speaking of fixmbr, i currently need to use that to replace windows 7's bootloader with windows xp's since i gave up on 7. can i do that first then restore grub?
[12:26] <bullgard4> 'man timer-applet': "To add this applet to a Panel, right-click on the Panel and choose Add to Panel -> Timer." I cannot find a 'Timer' item. Where is it? (The DEB program package timer-applet is installed.)
[12:26] <carlitos> i'm trying to install qucs
[12:26] <carlitos> a electronic software
[12:27] <darkwing> attempting to access a windows share on my network using nautilus and getting an error "no app available to handle this type of file" how do i fix this?
[12:28] <Dr_willis> BoltClock,  restoring grub woule rewrite the MBR. you dont need to restore XP's boot loader.
[12:28] <dontknow> I have 150 files named 1.pdf to 150.pdf - I want to list them in numerical rather than alaphabetical order in terminal. Does anyone know how I can do this?
[12:28] <Dr_willis> BoltClock,  unless theres somthing odd going on. :)
[12:29] <Dr_willis> dontknow,  check the ls commands/man pages.. it has so many options . it proberly an do that.
[12:29] <Apolodor> hi
[12:29] <Apolodor> where you have to copy files needed to install internet adsl
[12:29] <dontknow> Dr_willis: tried it but no joy :(
[12:29] <Dr_willis> dontknow,  or try 'dir'  or just 'echo * '  or find.
[12:29] <Dr_willis> dontknow,  or pipe the ls output through 'sort'
[12:30] <Bananaboy2> http://se.youtube.com/watch?v=txryWCu_NZw lol :)
[12:30] <bullgard4> dontknow: The sort command in conjunction with regular expressions can probably do that.
[12:30] <carlitos> when a tip ./configure i have  this error: http://paste.debian.net/27284/
[12:30] <BoltClock> Dr_willis: well, the windows 7 bootloader is still there, but obviously windows 7 itself is gone. when booting windows i want xp right away without 7's menu, so i thought of fixmbr, except its been warning and scaring me -.-
[12:30] <zer0o> hi guys, is there a web-development-support channel?
[12:31] <Dr_willis>  #web-development-support
[12:31] <Dr_willis> :)
[12:32] <Dr_willis> thtas a broad topic
[12:32] <carlitos> when a tip ./configure in console  i have  this error: http://paste.debian.net/27284/
[12:32] <carlitos> please help me
[12:32] <Dr_willis> #
[12:32] <Dr_willis> Possibly you need to install the full development package of Qt.
[12:33] <Dr_willis> You need to install  the QT DEV packages it seems to be saying
[12:33] <carlitos> how i do it??
[12:33] <Dr_willis> with the package manger. same as you install anything else
[12:33] <Dr_willis> search for 'qt' and '-dev' I guess
[12:33] <Dr_willis> !find qt-dev
[12:33] <BoltClock> Dr_willis: did you say anything to me while my pidgin was dying a slow painful death?
[12:33] <carlitos> the name of the package is QT??
[12:34] <Dr_willis> carlitos,  i doubt it.. theres proberly a dozen+ qt developer packages
[12:34] <binarymutant> libqt-dev
[12:34] <Dr_willis> apt-cache search dev  | grep qt    perhaps. or try what binarymutant  suggestes
[12:34] <binarymutant> libqt4-dev
[12:35] <Dr_willis> libqt4-dev - Qt 4 development files
[12:35] <carlitos> but i have a lot of results
[12:35] <Dr_willis> carlitos,  so? :)
[12:35] <Dr_willis> that one looks promising.
[12:35] <Dr_willis> libqt4-qt3support - Qt 3 compatibility library for Qt 4        Might also be needed
[12:36] <Dr_willis>  of course that app may need more dev pakcages also thenjust that one
[12:36] <carlitos> ok i try to install  libqt4-qt3support
[12:36] <Dr_willis> I tend to 'shotgun' install the -dev packages. :) once ya need one.. ya seem to need a lot of them
[12:36] <binarymutant> carlitos, when you did ./configure you need to install everything it says "no" to
[12:37] <Apolodor> where you have to copy files needed to install internet adsl, anybody help me please, i`m a begginer
[12:37] <Dr_willis>  The qucs package needs the 'Qt Meta Object Compiler' to compile properly.
[12:37] <Dr_willis> Ive no idea what   that  qucs is :)
[12:37] <Dr_willis> !adsl
[12:37] <carlitos> is a electronic software
[12:38] <carlitos> that simulate circuits
[12:38] <Dr_willis> checking for X... no
[12:38] <Dr_willis> You are on a server carlitos ?
[12:38] <carlitos> i install libqt4-qt3support i have the same problem
[12:38] <Gauntlet> yay, fully working ubuntu!
[12:39] <Peleus> whats the linux equivalent of ipconfig?
[12:39] <binarymutant> yay
[12:39] <Dr_willis> carlitos,  try the other packages  that were mentioned above
[12:39] <binarymutant> Peleus, ifconfig
[12:39] <Dr_willis> libqt4-dev - Qt 4 development files
[12:39] <Gauntlet> I have just one more problem! woo
[12:39] <Peleus> Doesn't tell me ip address or anything?
[12:39] <binarymutant> Peleus, actually I think they're changing it to ip
[12:39] <Gauntlet> I cant get my resolution above 1024x768, its not listed. I tried using nvidia settings
[12:39] <binarymutant> Peleus, ifconfig will tell you an ip address
[12:40] <Dr_willis> Linux = ifconfig, windows = ipconfig :)
[12:40] <Dr_willis> i think
[12:40] <Peleus> this is so damn frustrating
[12:40] <flam> anyone know anything about lenovo trackpoints? i believe my scroll function stoped working after an upgrade..
[12:40] <Peleus> Working netgear modem/router - laptop connected via wireless, can ping it fine
[12:40] <jasper> we're no strangers to love
[12:40] <Peleus> Ethernet out of plug into desktop, can't get anything on it
[12:40] <edgex-> You know the rules and so do i
[12:41] <Peleus> what can I do to troubleshoot?
[12:41] <binarymutant> Peleus, what's ifconfig say? and did you try sudo dhclient yet ?
[12:41] <jasper> A full commitments what Im thinking of
[12:41] <edgex-> You wouldnt get this from any other guy?
[12:41] <Gauntlet> can anyone help me? My resolution wont go above 1024x768
[12:41] <jasper> I just wanna tell you how Im feeling
[12:42] <edgex-> Gotta make you understand
[12:42] <jasper> * never gonna give you up
[12:42] <edgex-> Never gonna let you down
[12:42] <jasper> Never gonna run around and desert you
[12:42] <edgex-> Never gonna make you cry
[12:42] <BoltClock> never gonna say goodbye
[12:42] <jasper> Never gonna say goodbye
[12:42] <edgex-> ffffffffail
[12:42] <edgex-> you broke our rickroll
[12:42] <edgex-> Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you
[12:42] <jasper> Weve know each other for so long
[12:42] <erkki> mikä tämä on
[12:43] <edgex-> Your hearts been aching
[12:43] <carlitos_> please!!! :-) i need this software to do a university proyect
[12:43] <binarymutant> am I on -offtopic?
[12:43] <jasper> But youre too shy to say it
[12:43] <edgex-> Inside we both know whats been going on
[12:43] <jasper> We know the game and were gonna play it
[12:43] <edgex-> And if you ask me how Im feeling...?
[12:43] <erkki> mikä on suomenkielisten kanava
[12:45] <mc68040> i need to setup a 8.04 lts server. how can i ensure to install/use only packages with support until 2013?
[12:45] <binarymutant> mc68040, keep to the main repo as much as possible I think
[12:46] <flam> what's the name of the application that tells me which key or mouse button i press?
[12:46] <paul68> hi which vnc viewer/server do I need to install to have an identical one like the one on this website?http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html tightvnc, vnc4server
[12:46] <flam> starts in a terminal..
[12:46] <binarymutant> mc68040, but maybe all packages will be supported not sure
[12:46] <mrwes> mc68040: hrmm... no backports probably too
[12:46] <mc68040> binarymutant: in main are the desktop packages too. they are only supported until 2011
[12:47] <Gauntlet> I cant make my resolution any higher than 1024x768, with nvidia settings. how can i make a custom resolution?
[12:47] <binarymutant> mc68040, how do you know?
[12:47] <tgpraveen> hi folks
[12:48] <tgpraveen> does the empathy version included in 8.10 not have suport for irc?
[12:48] <tgpraveen> I would hate to use only pidgin only for irc
[12:48] <tgpraveen> asi am trying to switch to it
[12:48] <mc68040> binarymutant: cant imagine that abiword belongs to server edition (for example)
[12:49] <mrwes> tgpraveen: you can try xchat for irc
[12:49] <gordonjcp> or irssi and screen
[12:49] <paul68> hi which vnc viewer/server do I need to install to have an identical one like the one on this website?http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html tightvnc, vnc4server
[12:49] <binarymutant> mc68040, I don't think that matters, because abiword will still get security updates and stuff
[12:51] <binarymutant> mc68040, but again I'm not totally sure, when you say support are you paying for it? or do you mean it still gets security updates?
[12:51] <xenten> can anyone tell me where to find a drive's file sdb or something like that?
[12:51] <mc68040> binarymutant: security updates until 2013 is the important point for me
[12:51] <tgpraveen> mrwes but can someone confirm whether empathy has irc support or not?
[12:52] <tgpraveen> on the website it says that it does
[12:52] <mc68040> for example: racoon is in main but not on server edition cd
[12:52] <binarymutant> mc68040, I'm pretty sure everything in main will get security updates for LTS
[12:53] <binarymutant> mc68040, heh if not, debian won't put out it's new edition until 2013, maybe longer :)
[12:53] <yownanymous> what?
[12:53] <yownanymous> 2013?
[12:53] <yownanymous> lol
[12:53] <mc68040> binarymutant: until 2011 im sure too, but until 2013 only server edition packages
[12:54] <gizmo_> can i ask..where can i find utf-8?because my media player cant play subtitle..
[12:54] <savvas> tgpraveen: then look at the changelog, see when it was implemented and compare the version to ubuntu packages
[12:54] <mc68040> binarymutant: well, im using debian until now and consider to switch to ubutu lts :-)
[12:54] <binarymutant> mc68040, I think they use the same repos, #ubuntu-server might help better though
[12:54] <etech> isn't the new nvidia driver in envyng because it is not very stable or does envyng generally not support newer drivers in one ubuntu release?
[12:54] <tgpraveen> savvas: yeah that's one way to do it.
[12:55] <yownanymous> no, ubuntu is much better than debian!
[12:55] <tgpraveen> was just hoping someone here might know it
[12:55] <gizmo_> binarymutant, can you help me?where can i find utf-8?my media player cant pllay the subtitle..im using ubuntu..
[12:55] <binarymutant> gizmo_, what player?
[12:56] <binarymutant> gizmo_, mplayer works with utf-8 just fine
[12:56] <gizmo_> no..i cant open my subtitle..
[12:56] <gizmo_> and i cant find utf-8 in here..
[12:56] <yownanymous> isn't utf-8 the standard text encoding nowadays?
[12:56] <yownanymous> it should surely be included
[12:56] <binarymutant> I hope
[12:56] <edward> how can i make my wireless adapter automatically connect to my network?
[12:57] <binarymutant> gizmo_, name the subtitle the exact same as the movie and try
[12:57] <gizmo_> gedit has not been able to detect the character coding.
[12:57] <gizmo_> Please check that you are not trying to open a binary file.
[12:57] <gizmo_> Select a character coding from the menu and try again.
[12:57] <gizmo_> you see that binarymutant
[12:57] <binarymutant> gizmo_, oh what's the format of the sub?
[12:58] <paul68> hi which vnc viewer/server do I need to install to have an identical one like the one on this website?http://www.realvnc.com/products/download.html tightvnc, vnc4server
[12:58] <gizmo_> binarymutant, i dont know how to check the format of the subtitle..
[12:58] <binarymutant> gizmo_, you want srt or sub the other one is like encrypted or a binary
[12:58] <gizmo_> binarymutant, i cant get what you tell..
[12:58] <BoltClock> currently i have a windows 7 bootloader in my boot disk which contains xp (7 has been removed). should i run fixmbr to make sure xp boots as if 7 was never there or can i restore grub right away? menu.lst hasnt been touched at all so it contains one entry for windows xp
[12:58] <binarymutant> gizmo_, subtitle.srt or subtitle.sub?
[12:59] <gizmo_> sub
[12:59] <Dr_willis> paul68,  most of them work the same. I tend to use vnc4server
[12:59] <Dusk_> i installed ubuntu 8.10 64bit version but in synaptic i can not find xchat..is there a repo that i need to add ??
[12:59] <gizmo_> binarymutant, : sub
[12:59] <Dr_willis> paul68,  also it depends on exactly what you want  to do with vnc.
[12:59] <savvas> tgpraveen: yes: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=511858
[12:59] <unipal> The key combination for the Euro sign is Alt+Gr+e  What is "Gr" ?
[12:59] <gizmo_> binarymutant, you know how to configure?
[12:59] <binarymutant> gizmo_, if you can't open it in a text editor you might be out of luck. Try getting a different subtitle
[13:00] <gizmo_> binarymutant, i can open it using openoffice..
[13:00] <paul68> Dr_willis: well I need to get that installed at my uncle who lives about 2 hours driving from my location and take over his computer to help him out
[13:00] <binarymutant> gizmo_, gedit does utf-8 but not binary
[13:00] <js_> shouldnt i get the option to upgrade to 8.10 in 8.04 somewhere?
[13:00] <binarymutant> gizmo_, it's not really a subtitle file what you have, it's a binary
[13:00] <Dr_willis> paul68,  gnome has a vncserver feature built in.. You can use any vnc client to connect.. BUT ovber the wild internet.. Youmay want to check out ssh tunneling of vnc.
[13:00] <Dr_willis> !vnc
[13:00] <UbuTheUbi> haelllppp?!?
[13:00] <paul68> Dr_willis: if I am correct I need to install the server part at his side and the client one on my side he works with vista
[13:01] <tgpraveen> savvas: thanks a lot man.u rock
[13:01] <UbuTheUbi> is it possible to recover files from ubuntu?
[13:01] <Dusk_> (02:59:10 PM) Dusk_: i installed ubuntu 8.10 64bit version but in synaptic i can not find xchat..is there a repo that i need to add ??
[13:01] <Dr_willis> paul68,  i think the default ubuntu-gnome has one htat will share his 'current' desktop' he can enable.
[13:01] <unipal> Hello everybody, the key combination for the Euro sign is Alt+Gr+e  What is "Gr" ?
[13:01] <UbuTheUbi> or do i need the recovery distro?
[13:01] <Gauntlet> How do I add a custom resolution to my nvidia settings?
[13:01] <Dr_willis> paul68,  or install vnc4server. and ssh to allow you to ssh in and start it if needed
[13:01] <binarymutant> gizmo_, you can open it in Open Office but not gedit??
[13:01] <UbuTheUbi> I accidentally deleted some files
[13:01] <UbuTheUbi> or partitioned over them
[13:01] <UbuTheUbi> they were ext2
[13:01] <paul68> Dr_willis: but he needs to vnc server to be installed right
[13:02] <binarymutant> gizmo_, gimmie the file and let me see
[13:02] <gizmo_> binarymutant, yeah thats why im asking here..
[13:02] <UbuTheUbi> Is there a good software in ubuntu for forensics / data recovery?
[13:02] <Dr_willis> paul68,  i think gnome has one installed by default
[13:02] <gizmo_> binarymutant, how to give you the file..?
[13:02] <UbuTheUbi> thats free?
[13:02] <Dr_willis> paul68,  system -> preferances -> remote desktop
[13:02] <Dusk_> i installed ubuntu 8.10 64bit version but in synaptic i can not find xchat..is there a repo that i need to add ??
[13:02] <binarymutant> gizmo_, http://www.rapidshare.com/
[13:02] <gizmo_> wait
[13:03] <paul68> Dr_willis: that part I understood however my uncle works with vista and I need to connect to his pc. does he need to install vnc server or client?
[13:03] <Dr_willis> paul68,  you can install vnc4server in addation to that one thats built in.
[13:03] <binarymutant> gizmo_, then send me a link
[13:03] <gizmo_> binarymutant, ok..
[13:03] <unipal> ﻿Hello everybody, the key combination for the Euro sign is Alt+Gr+e  What is the "Gr"-key ?
[13:03] <Dr_willis>  paul68  for VISTA - he iwll need to install a vncserver.. I use 'ultravnc' on my windows machines
[13:03] <xenten> can anyone tell me where i can find a drive encrypted entirely with truecrypt?
[13:03] <bullgard4> 'man timer-applet': "To add this applet to a Panel, right-click on the Panel and choose Add to Panel -> Timer." Ich kann keinen 'Timer' finden. Wo ist er? (Das DEB program package 'timer-applet' ist installiert.)
[13:03] <bullgard4> 'man timer-applet': "To add this applet to a Panel, right-click on the Panel and choose Add to Panel -> Timer." Ich kann keinen 'Timer' finden. Wo ist er? (Das DEB program package 'timer-applet' ist installiert.)
[13:03] <Dr_willis> paul68,  theres some default vnc viewer also in ubuntu.. or install one of the others.. and try them out.
[13:04] <UbuTheUbi> data recovery possible?
[13:04] <kavurt> when Ekiga fails registration, is there any way to try to reconnect easily? Or shoud I turn it off and back on?
[13:04] <paul68> Dr_willis: ok so he installs ultravnc server and I can connect with the viewer
[13:04] <bullgard4> 'man timer-applet': "To add this applet to a Panel, right-click on the Panel and choose Add to Panel -> Timer." I cannot find a 'Timer' item. Where is it? (The DEB program package timer-applet is installed.)
[13:04] <Zzeiss> Question on digital signatures: when I run the update manager, I get: "The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 8DB7F87A2B97B7B8"
[13:04] <Dr_willis> paul68,  assuming hte routers are not blocking stuff...
[13:04] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, ya it's cool if you trust the source
[13:04] <Zzeiss> What's going on there?  Am I being rediverted to a zombifying web site?
[13:04] <Dr_willis> paul68,  theres also some 'gotomypc' sutes that help do thit task also.
[13:04] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: OK, how do I know where it's coming from?
[13:05] <paul68> Dr_willis: ok thanks
[13:05] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, pastebin /etc/apt/source.list
[13:05] <gizmo_> binarymutant, in 7min i paste the link..
[13:05] <Dr_willis> paul68,  i was thinkng windows vista/xp ? had some built in remote-desktop tool also.. instead of vnc.. but ive never tried those
[13:06] <binarymutant> gizmo_, you on dialup or something? how big is the file??
[13:06] <PJIRCtest> test
[13:06] <Agent_bob> can anyone tell me why i have three libc6's installed ???  http://pastebin.com/f609590d2
[13:06] <Gauntlet> udo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg doesnt go into my configuration
[13:06] <paul68> Dr_willis: you are right its the mstc
[13:06] <gizmo_> binarymutant,  26608kb
[13:06] <binarymutant> gizmo_, dialup?
[13:06] <gizmo_> wifi..
[13:06] <Briareos1> what's an easy way to restrict internet access user-based (on one and the same machine) (I'd like to whitelist based upon the domain)
[13:06] <binarymutant> oh :(
[13:06] <gizmo_> binarymutant, why?
[13:07] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: Pasted.  Thanks!
[13:07] <error404notfound> can someone name me a very light and simple text editor with numbering, and syntax highlighting, nothing else, coz my gedit is getting really heavy and giving problems
[13:07] <gizmo_> binarymutant, can i pm u?
[13:07] <Dr_willis> error404notfound,  i like 'geany'
[13:07] <binarymutant> gizmo_, cuz 2MB should only take 2 seconds
[13:07] <binarymutant> gizmo_, sure
[13:07] <yownanymous> error404notfound, how about leafpad?
[13:07] <error404notfound> Dr_willis: that's a gui eidtor?
[13:07] <Zzeiss> error404notfound: Well, nano is close...
[13:07] <error404notfound> Dr_willis: yownanymousi am programing python and sick of gedit and vi..
[13:08] <yownanymous> I don't mind gedit tbh
[13:08] <edgex-> To be honest I cheated and installed notepad++ via wine
[13:08] <yownanymous> I don't program much
[13:08] <Agent_bob> come on   three times the same version of glibc  errr libc6    what's with this ?
[13:08] <edgex-> :D
[13:08] <Dr_willis> error404notfound,  yes. its gui. and has good programing support
[13:08] <paul68> error404notfound: and what about quanta plus?
[13:08] <Dr_willis> !info geany
[13:08] <Dr_willis> error404notfound,  i use it for xml editing mainly
[13:09] <yownanymous> I use gedit mainly just for writing HTML
[13:09] <error404notfound> okay, another issue, my add/remove is gone mad, shows no application categories, no applications, only one item in the drop down list "All installed applications" and I can't search anything
[13:09] <Gauntlet> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg doesnt open my configuration
[13:09] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112062/
[13:09] <yownanymous> sudo apt-get update?
[13:10] <motoko> huometna
[13:10] <yownanymous> error404notfound, sudo apt-get update?
[13:10] <error404notfound> yownanymous: did couple of times, systems is fully updated and upgraded...
[13:11] <yownanymous> error404notfound, hmm
[13:11] <ottoshmidt> "configure: error: X development libraries not found" - ?
[13:11] <yownanymous> error404notfound: does synaptic work?
[13:11] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, search up ubuntu-keyring and install that, should make that error go away
[13:12] <WishingMaster> i need help regarding kernel installation
[13:12] <ezerhoden> ottoshmidt: apt-get install xorg-dev ?
[13:12] <error404notfound> yownanymous: yup, last time I tried to add a key into synaptic, after which I don't remember add/remove working fine... btw the key is also not there, so that's not a problem I guess
[13:13] <ottoshmidt> ezerhoden, tried to install fast user switch
[13:13] <uni4dfx> how do to make networkmanager not change my routes when i connect to a VPN?
[13:13] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: Thanks!  I'm on it...
[13:13] <WishingMaster> how to install the kernel?
[13:13] <error404notfound> Dr_willis: geany is like the coolest thing after ubuntu I ever saw... so light yet powerful
[13:13] <nightrid3r> !info gnomeConf.sh
[13:14] <TuxSympathiser> is it possible to use an older version of software?
[13:14] <PC_Nerd> Hi, I want to reinstall windows on my primary partition (where it already is) but I understand itll rewrite ove grub because its greedy... do you know a way to stop this?
[13:14] <Dr_willis> error404notfound,  it has a windows port also. :)
[13:14] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: No joy on that.  "ubuntu-keyring is already the newest version."
[13:14] <ezerhoden> TuxSympathiser: apt-pinning
[13:14] <nightrid3r> !file gnomeConf.sh
[13:14] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, ?!?
[13:14] <TuxSympathiser> ezerhoden, what about if I want to roll back software such as the acpi?
[13:15] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: Yep.  :-(
[13:16] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, oh it's the ppa
[13:16] <transporter> well i just downloaded a huge file that took me 3 hours to download and its a .rar file it is asking for a password what should i do?
[13:16] <ezerhoden> TuxSympathiser: you would use apt-pinning, http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html
[13:17] <RodMcKay> Hi, i'd like to do kinda this: "echo abcdbca | tr -d abc", the result is "d". Ok, that's what tr is supposed to do, but not what I wanted to do. I want "dbca" as the result. Anyone a clue how to do that?
[13:17] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, here try this link http://news.launchpad.net/ppa/adding-a-ppas-key-to-ubuntu
[13:17] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, if you trust that "extra macstuff", the ppa you have, then it's okay to safely ignore
[13:17] <RodMcKay> maybe tr is not the right tool for me
[13:18] <transporter> .rar file asking for a password what should i do?
[13:18] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: Yeah.  No choice in the matter.  I'm running on a macbook unibody.
[13:19] <Dr_willis> transporter,   find the password?   Lots of 'questionable' sites/sources  do that..   some give urls to get the password that lead to xxx/spyware/virus sites so be warey
[13:19] <bullgard4> 'man timer-applet': "To add this applet to a Panel, right-click on the Panel and choose Add to Panel -> Timer." I cannot find a 'Timer' item. Where is it? (The DEB program package timer-applet is installed.)
[13:20] <transporter> Dr_willis thanx but i don't need a virus right now
[13:20] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, that link I gave shows how to add ppa keys
[13:20] <Dr_willis> transporter,  of course thats one reason to use linux. :) its proberly not a problem.. but I would find the contents of that .rar file to be questionable also  -  But its your pc. ;)
[13:21] <yownanymous> don't use windows and you won't get viruses! :D
[13:21] <yownanymous> well
[13:21] <yownanymous> you CAN get linux viruses
[13:21] <yownanymous> but it's very unlikely
[13:21] <transporter> Dr_willis well i just downloaded bach the whole collection
[13:21] <ani_> Hello to all.i have a lap top acer aspire 5630,iam using ubuntu 8.10,where can i find my graphic card driver for ubuntu bc some time it is slow and freez.?
[13:22] <binarymutant> yownanymous, there are 0 virus for linux
[13:22] <yownanymous> ani_: you might need to activate a restricted driver
[13:22] <bullgard4> transporter: lspci
[13:22] <ani_> yownanymous: how can i do that?
[13:22] <yownanymous> binarymutant: actually there are something like around 30
[13:22] <yownanymous> ani_: erm
[13:22] <binarymutant> yownanymous, actually there are 0
[13:22] <yownanymous> ani_: give me a minute
[13:22] <bullgard4> ani_: lspci
[13:22] <yownanymous> binarymutant: Would you like a list?
[13:22] <transporter> bullgard4 should i type that in the terminal?
[13:23] <ani_> yownanymous: ok
[13:23] <binarymutant> yownanymous, there have been like test viri but 0 wild
[13:23] <yownanymous> oh
[13:23] <yownanymous> binarymutant: It's pretty hard to damage a linux system though isn't it?
[13:23] <bullgard4> transporter: I made a mistake. Please excuse me.
[13:24] <binarymutant> yownanymous, idk bad configurations can lead to lots of damage
[13:24] <Dr_willis> yownanymous,  yep. can be..   most of the time - :)
[13:24] <Zzeiss> binarymutant: Yeah, there is.  But it's a joke - it's really a text file of instructions on how to install the virus, with variations for different distributions and things like "if you are under ubuntu, please remember that Canonical does not support this virus"
[13:24] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, lol
[13:24] <Dr_willis> yownanymous,  ive seen more systems trashed by users/admins who 'thought they knew' what they were doing... then any other way
[13:24] <binarymutant> Zzeiss, LTS for viri
[13:25]  * Dr_willis waits for VIrus Serivce pack 1
[13:25] <pafaal> hey
[13:25] <binarymutant> :D
[13:25] <whileimhere> Morning folks. I teach a music class this year and I have a bunch of DVDs that have scenes of operas on them. Instead of hauling all my DVDs to work I was wondering if there is a program that will help me take a scene or a small segment from each of them and put them on one DVD?
[13:25] <yownanymous> Dr_willis: That's why I don't touch the bits I don't understand :P
[13:26] <transporter> bullgard4: what should i do?
[13:26] <jatt> how do I show the computer menu on my desktop?
[13:26] <jatt> I mean computer icon
[13:26] <ani_> yownanymous : did you found anything?
[13:26] <yownanymous> ani_: nope
[13:26] <yownanymous> ani_: What model is it again?
[13:26] <jelly12gen> jatt: search for gconfig
[13:26] <ani_> acer aspire  5630
[13:28] <transporter> bullgard4: are u helping me?
[13:28] <yownanymous> ani_: Might have found something
[13:28] <ani_> yownanymous: thank you
[13:29] <yownanymous> ani_: Nope, wasn't what I expected
[13:29] <yownanymous> damn
[13:29] <whileimhere> !codecs
[13:30] <rainmanp7> Ok if your ubuntu runs your drive as scuzzi when it's really IDE would it be beter to run it as a ide at udma5 ?
[13:30] <RickX> any sylvania meso owners here?
[13:31] <transporter> .rar file asking for password
[13:32] <Boohbah_> transporter: stop downloading seedy rar files
[13:32] <transporter> Boohbah: sure thing but i never knew it was seedy in the first place
[13:32] <transporter> plus the damn thing took me more than 3 hours to download
[13:33] <jackson> got a slow connection transporter
[13:33] <transporter> jackson: very
[13:33] <Zzeiss> transporter: Maybe that's a good reason to fire it off in it's own virtual machine.  :)
[13:34] <jackson> maybe use the torrent
[13:34] <transporter> Zzeiss: guys will u stop making fun of me and if possible gimme a resolution for the same
[13:34] <jackson> transporter: on the .rar pw?
[13:34] <Dr_willis> transporter,  we dont know how to crack a rar password.. Not sure its even doable..
[13:35] <Dr_willis> transporter,  check the site ya got th file from and it may mention the password
[13:35] <transporter> jackson: there should be a way there is always a way
[13:35] <Zzeiss> transporter: No offense intended.  I wasn't making fun of you.  But if you're worried, yeah, a virtual machine is one way to do it in an isolated way.  Does your hardware have VTx enabled?
[13:35] <mrwes> transporter: so you want resolution to leeching an illegal torrent file that is pasword protected?
[13:35] <transporter> it was downloaded form rapid share
[13:35] <konradee> transporter what is this rar  that you have downloaded ?
[13:36] <transporter> konradee: bach collection
[13:36] <transporter> konradee: sorry mozart collection
[13:36] <transporter> bach is fine
[13:37] <UbuTheUbi> will it be possible to recover files and file names from a ext3 partition i formatted over/
[13:37] <transporter> Zzeiss: what is VTx?
[13:37] <transporter> how do i check it?
[13:37] <hilmar> hai
[13:37] <UbuTheUbi> anyone had experiene with this?
[13:38] <paul68> Dr_willis: Does ultravnc also allow outside connections from outside the network?
[13:38] <wips> I'm having a problem with X.org, when I boot it displays an error about a parsing error in the configuration. I've tried just deleting the xorg.conf but then something else fucks up Cause the computer somehow can't choose the SiS driver by itself. I have to do it in xorg.conf. It worked until today when I tried changing the login screen.
[13:39] <LaUd> hi... i need a powerpoint presentation of ubuntu to present...
[13:43] <forceflow> LaUd check the ubuntu promo wiki?
[13:43] <LaUd> thanks
[13:44] <xanxor> Hi, I wonder if somebody could help me. I had Ubuntu running on a laptop, which later died due to hardware failure (motherboard, I believe). I took out the hard drive and put it in an external enclosure. I am able to boot from it on the desktop computer in the library, but not from this laptop that my friend leant me. I checked: the BIOS does support boot from USB external hard drive. It starts, GRUB starts, I get the Ubunt
[13:45] <xanxor> If it makes any difference, I had Xubuntu installed but running gnome.
[13:46] <Dusk_> i have a problem...when i try to search a package in synaptics it can't be found..but when i open terminal and write apt-get install smplayer for example, it is installing
[13:46] <break19> xanxor: most likely it's due to changed mount locations... but it's been years since I've actually tried it, and with some of the newer "uuid" type mounts, I could be wrong..
[13:47] <mchelen> xanxor, what error appears?
[13:47] <break19> Dusk_: are you -sure- you have the "all" group selected when searching? otherwise it searches the group you have selected.
[13:47] <xanxor> break19: Yeah, it's a UUID mount. I'm not even sure what that means, do you have any suggestions as to what to do about it? And if it's a mount issue, why is it even loading GRUB and the ubuntu loading screen?
[13:47] <xanxor> mchelen: No error. Screen just goes black.
[13:48] <Dusk_> break19, all is selected yes...when i try to look for packages by Origin it says there's no package in universe, multiverse repos
[13:48] <break19> xanxor: because grub is installed on the mbr.. and the bios knows to load it.. do a google search on grub, disable the splash screen at boot, and see what happens.. any errors are bound to give ya better insight.
[13:48] <break19> dusk: shrugs then
[13:49] <Dusk_> break19, what?
[13:49] <xanxor> break19: By splash screen, do you mean the thing I keep calling the loading screen?
[13:49] <break19> xanxor: yea
[13:49] <mchelen> anyone know how to figure out which repo is causing this? W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C5E6A5ED249AD24C
[13:49] <xanxor> break19: So if I google grub it will tell me how to disable it? Okay, I'll give that a try. Thanks.
[13:49] <break19> dusk: ask someone else then, i shrugged. meanin "i dunno then"
[13:50] <Guest26627> hi y'all, is there any good desklet or something that can display cpu-load and memory-load like text on the desktop?
[13:50] <Dusk_> oh sorry
[13:50] <mchelen> Guest26627, try screenlets
[13:50] <transporter> bullgard4: hey can u please help me with the .rar file?
[13:51] <savvas> mchelen: post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list file at http://paste.ubuntu.com
 try conky, highly customizable
[13:51] <ruben23> how set password on ubuntu
[13:51] <farfan> sudo apt-get conky
[13:51] <Lillie201> Hello when using tsclient in full screen mode I am unable to minimize or switch to another ubuntu desktop. the ctrl-alt-arrow keys nor ctrl-alt-enter do not work
[13:51] <binarymutant> ruben23, passwd
[13:51] <rebel_kid> ruben23, passwd
[13:52] <binarymutant> :D
[13:52] <rebel_kid> what he said lol
[13:52] <farfan> "sudo apt-get install conky " sorry
[13:52] <mchelen> savvas, http://pastebin.com/f3ee9c9d2
[13:53] <e-frame> hello, when telnetting to mail server, i got "550 RFC compliant TO required." what's that ? :D
[13:53] <johan12> mchelen: is was looking for this "desklet": http://customize.org/xfce/themes/60248/view/61216 - in the right corner
[13:54] <savvas> mchelen: you have to: 1) update the links to the PPA archives you use (they have an extra 'ppa') and 2) get the key for each of them
[13:55] <konradee> e-frame it requires a send-to
[13:55] <farfan> has anyone had problems with kernel 2.6.27.11 + fglrx drivers? i get black screen when dirivers enabled
[13:56] <mchelen> johan12, im not sure which that is just by looking
[13:56] <e-frame> konradee: i've typed "rcpt to" is it just the same ?
[13:56] <savvas> mchelen: I can give you a hand with the updating if you want to
[13:56] <konradee> e-frame apparently not if its complaining
[13:56] <mchelen> savvas, that would help, where does the extra ppa go?
[13:57] <e-frame> so, what then the message ask me to do?
[13:57] <arussel> I can listen to shoutcast radio on amarok, but on exaile it just stop at the ´Ĺoading streams ...´ message. Can anyone use exaile to listen to shout cast radio ?
[13:59] <nomingzi> i have install a software (.pl) from terminal, and this software has it own services running. I would like to know how to check if the services are running fine.
[13:59] <savvas> mchelen: http://pastebin.com/m444cf2d8 - you can get it with: sudo wget http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?dl=m444cf2d8 -O /etc/apt/sources.list
[13:59] <Jantzman> does anyone know why VNC is so slow after recent intrepid update?
[14:00] <Khisanth> e-frame: read the RFC and find out
[14:00] <mchelen> savvas, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6649356 fixed the GPG error
[14:01] <wips> When I boot I get an error from xorg: (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file. What do I do ? if I remove the xorg.conf file the problem is gone but then all the colors are wicked.
[14:02] <savvas> mchelen: the ppa links you have now will be dropped soon
[14:03] <savvas> mchelen: yes, that's step (2) I mentioned before
[14:03] <mchelen> savvas, ah ok, thanks
[14:03] <Lillie201> Hello when using tsclient in full screen mode I am unable to minimize or switch to another ubuntu desktop. the ctrl-alt-arrow keys nor ctrl-alt-enter do not work
[14:05] <savvas> mchelen: you have to update the keys for these: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112076/plain/
[14:05] <bullgard4> transporter: For .rar files see http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Packprogramme (But this website is down in this very moment.)
[14:06] <whileimhere> !codecs
[14:07] <mchelen> savvas, okay, when will the old ones stop working?
[14:08] <mchelen> savvas, http://paste.ubuntu.com/112076/plain/ doesn't seem to work
[14:08] <wips> When I boot I get an error from xorg: (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file. What do I do ? if I remove the xorg.conf file the problem is gone but then all the colors are wicked.
[14:09] <hikenboot> http://pastebin.ca/1322350<---anyone know how to fix this error
[14:09] <savvas> mchelen: those are the links you have to visit with your browser
[14:10] <mchelen> savvas, yah okay, they are all like http://ppa.launchpad.net/project/ppa/ubuntu
[14:10] <savvas> mchelen: I have no idea when they will end the old links, this is the email I got: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112078/plain/
[14:11] <shally87> hi all
[14:11] <whileimhere> !w32codecs
[14:11] <shally87> wanna ask anypne experienced in installing LAMP server?
[14:11] <shally87> !lamp
[14:12] <UnknownFear> can someone help me with getting sound in Ubuntu 8.10? I have an EMU10K1 sound card
[14:12] <mchelen> savvas, ok cool, thanks
[14:12] <ortsvorsteher> !sound | UnknownFear
[14:12] <UnknownFear> !sound
[14:13] <sioux> UnknownFear: you must recompile the kernel with emu10k1
[14:13] <UnknownFear> sioux: how would I do that?
[14:14] <Vubi> is their an open source alternative to adobe illustrator?
[14:14] <rccu> ill be gone in a day or two
[14:14] <sioux> UnknownFear: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[14:15] <UnknownFear> sioux: thank you, I'll take a look and get back to you
[14:16] <shally87> any help here?
[14:16] <ortsvorsteher> !ask | shally87
[14:16] <cemplok> taekwondo .com
[14:16] <shally87> owh owh
[14:16] <shally87> my bad
[14:17] <UnknownFear> sioux: I am lost, to be honest
[14:17] <jatt> how do I show the computer icon on my desktop?
[14:17] <shally87> I¨ve install LAMP server on ubuntu 8.10 but i having problem on how to use it. I am new in making server
[14:18] <UnknownFear> sioux: I have no idea exactly what to do. I just want to get my sound card working
[14:18] <shally87> any guide of using it?
[14:18] <Jack_Sparrow> shally87 THe lamp factoid has help and ther are channels for apache and ubuntu-server
[14:18] <shally87> owh
[14:18] <shally87> thanks for the info
[14:18] <bullgard4> What is the filename of the sound file 'Log In' that produces the Ubuntu login jingle? (see System > Preferences > Sound > (Sound Preferences) > Sounds > System Sounds > Log in.)
[14:19] <shally87> will go to the channel
[14:19] <hikenboot> http://pastebin.ca/1322350<---anyone? anyone at all?
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> ils, not just your link
[14:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !details
[14:19] <Katze_> 7join #tmw-content
[14:21] <jatt> how do I replace the ubuntu symbol in the menu with the gnome foot?
[14:21] <wers> for some reason, i have freemind installed but there's no menu entry for it. any idea why? :)
[14:21] <hikenboot> I do  sudo aptitude safe-upgrade i get http://pastebin.ca/1322350
[14:22] <Jack_Sparrow> jatt That info is not available here.. and 99% of the tutorials dont have it right
[14:23] <jatt> I see.
[14:23] <nomingzi> I am running Ubuntu 8.10 x64, Gnome is the default desktop env, and i wish to change it to use xfce, how can i do it without reinstall it from xubuntu ? thanks
[14:23] <jatt> I've seen some tutorials and all are extremely complicated for such trivial issue.
[14:24] <nishant_> ni5687
[14:24] <erUSUL> nomingzi: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:25] <gordonjcp> jatt: if you're asking how to do it, then how do you know it's a trivial issue?
[14:25] <Lillie201> Hello when using tsclient in full screen mode I am unable to minimize or switch to another ubuntu desktop. the ctrl-alt-arrow keys nor ctrl-alt-enter do not work
[14:25] <jatt> ignore gordonjcp
[14:25] <jatt> oops sorry
[14:25] <exodus_ms> gordonjcp: if if someone knows that 99% of the tutorials 'don't have it right' how can they say no info is available here?
[14:25] <gordonjcp> jatt: it could be one of those things that looks, on the face of it, pretty easy but isn't
[14:25] <gordonjcp> exodus_ms: true
[14:26] <gordonjcp> exodus_ms: however, it looks like jatt has chosen to /ignore me rather than answer a perfectly reasonable question
[14:26] <exodus_ms> gordonjcp: also true
[14:26] <Kennie> hi i was wondering, what does 'Virtual Machine host' option while installing latest ubuntu server do?
[14:26] <gordonjcp> exodus_ms: now, as it happens, I *do* know how to change the ubuntu logo to the gnome foot, but jatt will never know that now
[14:26] <sioux> UnknownFear: that sound card is supported by linux, but the ubuntu kernel natively has the module that manage that card is not compiled. This means that you have do it manualy... not easy task for a newbie
[14:27] <jatt> it's very complicated, it should be a lot easier I think (e.g. some tutorial recommend to download an icon file, resize it with gimp, etc.)
[14:27] <jared1> Would anyone be able to direct me to a bit of help?  Huge Ubuntu newbie here...I think I may have done a bad thing.
[14:27] <gordonjcp> !ask | jared1
[14:27] <exodus_ms> jared1: Please give some details
[14:27] <gordonjcp> jatt: you're probably ignoring me, but it's probably easier than you think
[14:28] <exodus_ms> jatt: ask gordonjcp to guide you through it
[14:28] <Jack_Sparrow> gordonjcp It was intentionally setup that way so that every tom dick and mary didnt take off our logo and pretend it was their release
[14:28] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: that's pretty much what I figured
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gordonjcp It was a simple trick, but fools many
[14:29] <helo> ho!
[14:29] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: that doesn't mean it's hard to change, you just need to think a bit
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> agreed
[14:29] <jatt> haha
[14:29] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: now, you may have noticed that quite often I don't answer questions very directly
[14:29] <helo> what is ubuntu's kernel policy? major version upgrades within a stable release?
[14:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gordonjcp YEs I took Kubuntu and made it 100% look like vista
[14:29] <gizmo_> anyone can help me with subtitle..?my subtitle in mplayer doest work..
[14:29] <gizmo_> hey you Jack_Sparrow help me
[14:30] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: this is because I think it's important for people to discover answers for themselves, even if it takes a push in the right direction
[14:30] <erUSUL> helo: no no major kernel revisions
[14:30] <gizmo_> Jack_Sparrow, help me..my subtitle cant work in my mplayer...!
[14:30] <Jack_Sparrow> gizmo_ Sorry, still waking up and I have no idea on subtitles
[14:30] <helo> err... is 2.6.x-m x is major version?
[14:30] <erUSUL> helo: yes
[14:30] <gizmo_> im using ubuntu!
[14:30] <gizmo_> is this what i got when i d/l ubuntu!
[14:30] <Kanatrell> ubuntu-se
[14:30] <gizmo_> no helper!
[14:31] <gordonjcp> gizmo_: you're welcome to ask for your money back
[14:31] <helo> i'd really like to give 2.6.28 a shot for my intel 945 graphics
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !patience
[14:31] <gordonjcp> Jack_Sparrow: thanks, I was trying to remember that command
[14:31] <gizmo_> gordonjcp, ok..how??
[14:31] <gizmo_> how to get my money?
[14:31] <binarymutant> lol
[14:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[14:31] <bazhang> !attitude | gizmo_
[14:32] <jared1> I was trying to install JRE so I could load OpenOffice templates and run java in Firefox -- and, without really knowing what I was doing, I blindly googled around some of the forums trying different things.  Long story short, now, I have no root access in terminal and when I try to access the Synaptic Package Manager, I receive this message: "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[14:32] <jared1> E: _cache->open() failed, please report."  Anybody?
[14:32] <erUSUL> gizmo_: you will have to give more details... subtitles have allways worked for me if they are named exactly like the video archive but with srt extension --> eg; file.avi and file.srt on the same folder
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Did you do what it says?
[14:32] <jared1> I tried
[14:32] <gizmo_> no..i want to keep what gordonjcp say..he said i can get my money back...
[14:32] <syntax\> how do i install FX5500? i mean how do i properly install it. can't seem to have a 1600x1050 resolution
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Did you do what it says? manually run 'dpkg --configure -
[14:32] <Jack_Sparrow> gizmo_ Please stop
[14:33] <gizmo_> gordonjcp, you one of ubuntu sfatt..i want my money back...or the ubuntu stuff is liar..
[14:33] <oneunder> gizmo_: he was be sarcastic
[14:33] <gordonjcp> jared1: what do you mean you have no root access?
[14:33] <gordonjcp> jared1: is sudo broken?
[14:33] <syntax\> anyone?
[14:33] <helo> gizmo_: just go to google.com and search for "ubuntu refund"
[14:33] <gizmo_> Jack_Sparrow, see.. the gordonjcp start it..he said i can get my money back..
[14:33] <jared1> Maybe?
[14:33] <bazhang> gizmo_, please take chat elsewhere
[14:33] <gizmo_> i know..what ubuntu does now..
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> gizmo_ Please stop this line of chat
[14:33] <gizmo_> gordonjcp, why u just quit..
[14:33] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow, "dpkg: requested oeration requires superuser priviliges"
[14:33] <gordonjcp> gizmo_: google for "ubuntu refund"
[14:33] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Did you do what it says? manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -
[14:34] <gizmo_> Jack_Sparrow, what?its my stuff to say.. gordonjcp say i can have my money back
[14:34] <oneunder> syntax\: i have never had any luck, ut i know a lot whoe have, with nvidia drivers.  sorry i cant help you out
[14:34] <jared1> okay, wait...I got root again.
[14:34] <jared1> Sorry -- scratch that no root thing.
[14:34] <gordonjcp> jared1: yay
[14:34] <jared1> Ok, it ran the dpkg configure -a
[14:34] <jared1> and I'm back to root.
[14:34] <syntax\> well its a bit weird, when i was using mx4000 (64mb) 1600x1050 was the resolution
[14:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Ok try what you were doing when you got the error
[14:35] <jared1> Well, I re-opened the Synaptic Pkg Mgr, and it says I have one broken pkg.
[14:35] <oneunder> syntax\: is that what the lcd/card is suppose to run at?
[14:35] <syntax\> then when i changed awhile ago even with xp i only get 1440x900 if i was to choose 1600x1050 the screen is scrolluing.
[14:35] <jared1> It recommended finding it using the broken pkg filter?
[14:36] <syntax\> oneunder: what do you mean?
[14:36] <UnknownFear> I am asking the same question again, but I don't understand. I have an EMU10K1 sound card, but I don't have sound
[14:36] <syntax\> im using asus mw201 lcd panel
[14:36] <oneunder> syntax\: weird.  does knoppix or something of that sort detect the card and display accordingly?
[14:36] <syntax\> it was installed.
[14:37] <syntax\> but max res i get is 1280x1024
[14:37] <xingyuan> where can i find a room for non technical chat?
[14:37] <helo> jared1: man you did something strange ;)
[14:37] <xingyuan> sorryryyyy
[14:37] <jared1> Yes, I'm know :-(
[14:37] <Quadrescence> How can I start my computer up showing information as it starts up as opposed to the graphical bar? (I am not sure of a more proper way to ask this question)
[14:37] <jared1> Okay, it's JRE that's broken according to SPM.
[14:37] <syntax\> and after reboot it goes back at 1024x768
[14:38] <helo> jared1: apt-get purge package-name
[14:38] <syntax\> any suggestions? i mean how do i completely uninstall an nvidia driver?
[14:38] <jared1> ...err -- I hit the "fix broken package" and then "reload"
[14:38] <jared1> I'll quit tinkering and just do as I'm gold now.
[14:38] <jared1> told*
[14:38] <helo> ok thats fine
[14:38] <kroisis> question: is there a way to pass options via command line to "dpkg reconfigure"? I'd like to pass it options to reconfigure ipmasq without having to enter it's little ansi menu...
[14:39] <cdavis> Does anyone know how to set the url bar to single-click in konqueror?
[14:40] <jared1> Hrrm -- I suppose the main question now is...how do I get JRE installed properly?
[14:40] <jared1> Do I need to set certain packages to install?
[14:40] <jared1> Or do I need extensions for OO.ORG/Firefox?
[14:41] <exodus_ms> anyone know why google is banning ubuntu forums
[14:41] <jxander> is there a way to scan my little brother's lan traffic with wireshark so that I could see if he chats with someone who our parents asked him not to chat with?
[14:42] <gordonjcp> exodus_ms: is it?
[14:42] <tatters> I just noticed all my google results say the site could harm my pc
[14:42] <exodus_ms> god-mok: hey, do me a favor type this into google search    ubuntu EMU10K1 sound card     and click on the first link (ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046885 -) tell me if you get an error
[14:42] <exodus_ms> gordonjcp: hey, do me a favor type this into google search    ubuntu EMU10K1 sound card  and click on the first link (ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1046885 -) tell me if you get an error
[14:43] <jared1> If I were to click "Mark All Upgrades" and "Apply" -- would all of the JRE-related stuff auto-install or am I hoping for an easy-out?
[14:44]  * cwillu starts counting down
[14:44] <kroisis> exodus_ms  why is google flagging those sites as harmful?
[14:44] <cwillu> kroisis, google's broken at the moment
[14:44] <kroisis> lol
[14:44] <god-mok> exodus_ms: ?0o
[14:44] <cwillu> kroisis, that's what I was counting down to :)
[14:44] <tatters> google flagging evry site as harmful at mo as far as I can see
[14:44] <exodus_ms> god-mok: sorry wrong person
[14:44] <god-mok> no problem ^^
[14:45] <kroisis> lol...just did a search on google for youtube and it says "this site may harm your computer" lol
[14:45] <god-mok> exodus_ms: but yeah, i see no page, but google warning
[14:45] <geoaxis> i am getting funny results from google
[14:45] <geoaxis> apprently every link is now harmful
[14:46] <cwillu> google is broken right now
[14:46] <god-mok> lol
[14:46] <cwillu> stop talking about it :p
[14:46] <failers> even kubuntu.org is harmful
[14:46] <geoaxis> lolz
[14:46] <kroisis> google goolg
[14:46] <kroisis> er google google
[14:46] <geoaxis> even goolge is harmful
[14:46] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot
[14:46] <tatters> Google blacklist evryone then u pay them to white list google became credit crunch evil
[14:46] <kroisis> nice screenshot for slashdot
[14:46] <helo> google is not going to be that evil, because it isn't in their best interest...
[14:46] <exodus_ms> What are we going to do, how will I search the Internet (sarcastic tone)
[14:47] <jcapinc> GOOGLE IS DOWN!!! AHAHHHHH!! RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!!!
[14:47] <acke> hey, help me with a command to list kernelversion plz
[14:47] <acke> heh
[14:47] <kroisis> yep google is now reporting that it might harm your computer
[14:47] <jared1> So, now I'm waiting for changes to be applied after selecting "Mark All Upgrades" and hitting "Apply"...am I silly for doing this?
[14:47] <exodus_ms> lol
[14:47] <gordonjcp> exodus_ms: that link works for me
[14:47] <Jack_Sparrow> acke uname -r
[14:48] <gordonjcp> exodus_ms: your google is broken, you should ask for your money back
[14:48] <acke> Jack_Sparrow:
[14:48] <helo> google works wonderful
[14:48] <acke> Jack_Sparrow: thxy
[14:48] <helo> ly
[14:48] <kroisis> lol
[14:48] <gordonjcp> exodus_ms: do you want to know what it says?
[14:48] <geoaxis> i thin there must be a grease monkey script to make skip the warning
[14:48] <iori92> athertele
[14:48] <exodus_ms> gordonjcp: the support staff said 'the check is in the mail'
[14:48] <geoaxis> think*
[14:48] <failers> rofl
[14:48] <Jack_Sparrow> Please stop the offtopic..........now
[14:48] <failers> when i googled google and tryed enter www.google.se it says its harmful
[14:48] <failers> haha
[14:49] <god-mok> hmmm, all the cache links are removed. googletakedown? o0
[14:49] <acke> im running  2.6.24-23-generic is that 8.10?
[14:49] <geoaxis> failers: i usually do google.com/ncr
[14:49] <RickX> and Meso owners... or any netbook owners using Ubuntu here?
[14:49] <geoaxis> failers:  which part of SE, me = Gbg
[14:49] <failers> SE = sweden
[14:49] <jared1> Hrrm -- system restart required.  I'll try to come back and report back.  Thanks Jack_Sparrow, helo and others for the attempt at help...heh
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[14:50] <geoaxis> failers:  i meant me = Gothenburg
[14:50] <nomingzi> erUSUL: after installing xubuntu-desktop, how to i activate/use it ?
[14:50] <Jack_Sparrow> geoaxis  Stop the ot
[14:50] <Swilky> LOL
[14:50] <Swilky> look at google
[14:50] <Swilky> its $$$$ed
[14:50] <iori92> khsajdhsadgsajd
[14:50] <aaronr> hahaha
[14:50] <erUSUL> nomingzi: it should appear in the list of session types in the login window
[14:50] <Stroganoff> EVERYONE: http://ixquick.com/ <---- google wrapper still working
[14:50] <aaronr> The whole internet may harm your computer
[14:50] <SiDi> Hello, i'm under Xubuntu 8.10 and when i launch a video in totem i get no sound, unless i manually launch pulseaudio before. Is there a way to use Totem without Pulse ?
[14:50] <geoaxis> Jack_Sparrow:  i cannot ..since google is broken
[14:50] <UnknownFear> can someone help me? I don't have any sound what so ever
[14:51] <geoaxis> i have to occupy my mind now
[14:51] <pitoow> i can capture the name of the band on audacious witch a script sh?
[14:51] <wers> wow. what's wrong with google? it always tells me now that all websites have security issues
[14:51] <barisha> i have a problem with confituring exim4 can i get help?
[14:51] <SiDi> nomingzi: when you're at the login screen, click on "Sessions" and choose XFCE
[14:51] <Rukasuzu> Hi people
[14:51] <UnknownFear> wers: I get that aswell
[14:51] <Jeruvy> wers: they probably do
[14:51] <kroisis> ya'll know that google never broke while george bush was president ;-D
[14:51] <Rukasuzu> What is with google?
[14:51] <erUSUL> SiDi: you have to options add pulseaudio to your session or make gstreamer use alsa directly
[14:52] <Rukasuzu> Says all the sites are bad?
[14:52] <Stroganoff> EVERYONE: http://ixquick.com/ <---- google wrapper still working
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> We all know Google is having an issue.. Please stop
[14:52] <erUSUL> SiDi: for the later launch "gstreamer-properties"
[14:52] <SiDi> erUSUL: i don't want to use pulse. I want totem to use alsa
[14:52] <Rukasuzu> Ok thanks !
[14:52] <Rukasuzu> Now I know :)
[14:52] <Jack_Sparrow> Stroganoff Knock it off
[14:52] <Rukasuzu> I love Ubuntu!
[14:52] <Rukasuzu> Thnx for fixing the kernels :D
[14:52] <UnknownFear> Rukasuzu: I do too!! :P
[14:52] <barisha> i need help with exim4 because it says that i can't install any other package without it..
[14:53] <TheEdge_> anyone got problem with firefox  ??
[14:53] <SiDi> erUSUL: thanks for the gstreamer-properties tip, putting on alsa and trying, sec
[14:53] <Rukasuzu> New kernels rule :D
[14:53] <Rukasuzu> There was an update after 8.04.2 :D
[14:53] <Joelito> hi all, how can I know when I file was created?
[14:53] <UnknownFear> can anyone help me out with getting my emu10k1 sound card to work? it's not working
[14:53] <Pie_565> Hi, is there any way to get a list of every package installed on a fresh install of Server 8.04.1?
[14:54] <kroisis> I wonder if perhaps they are testing the new windows servers over there....
[14:54] <jared1> Okay -- back to report.  Jack_Sparrow, I think all of the mess I created is, at least, resolved.
[14:54] <helo> hah yeah
[14:54] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Glad to hear it
[14:54] <SiDi> erUSUL: shouldn't totem-gstreamer use ALSA if i specify it in gstreamer-properties ?
[14:54] <jared1> However, I'm back to square one -- "please install the openoffice.org-java-common package" from OO.ORG
[14:54] <Jeruvy> Pie_565: dpkg -l >installed-poackage
[14:54] <erUSUL> SiDi: yep it should
[14:55] <thaytan> SiDi: gstreamer-properties sets the wrong gconf key
[14:55] <Pie_565> Jeruvy: Thank you]
[14:55] <Eurotrash`> what the hell is going on with google?
[14:55] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Sounds like you added some repos to your list..
[14:55] <Eurotrash`> what the hell is going on with google?
[14:55] <jared1> and when I check firefox, no java plugins listed in "addons"
[14:55] <SiDi> thaytan: what do you mean ?
[14:55] <Pie_565> All the "harmful pages"?
[14:55] <thaytan> SiDi: Use the 'sound' preferences applet to set the Movies and Music output to alsa
[14:55] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow, I'm not sure what that means.
[14:55] <Pie_565> Google is doing that to me too
[14:56] <helo> google just updated its protection algorithms so they detect the NSA's backdoors and malicious scripts, which are active on all sites
[14:56] <|newbie|> hello, I have this problem...  my machine can be restarted without a problem... but whenever I shutdown ( either system or button ) it won't start back... last time I got it started again magickally after one day or so after lots of tries... now it has been several weeks... what shall I do? there's allways some disk activity and the leds are on, but not even GRUB... I'm on ubuntu ibex
[14:57] <Pie_565> helo: huh? backdoors / malicious scripts on *every* site? how?
[14:57] <barisha> can i get help with exim4? :)
[14:57] <dinesh372> how to close any program from terminal
[14:57] <Jack_Sparrow> Pie_565 Offtopic
[14:57] <Jeruvy> |newbie|: are you saying pushing the power button does not turn on the pc?
[14:57] <UnknownFear> can i get help with sound please?
[14:57] <|newbie|> yeah, PiercedWolf, google's must have been hacked today
[14:57] <|newbie|> I noticed that
[14:57] <xnmrph> I've got a vfat partition mounted as user,rw etc but the files on it are "owned" by root. If I gksudo nautilus, it still won't let me change the owner to "me." Same as if I try to chown. Any ideas?
[14:57] <SiDi> thaytan: everything is on alsa in gnome-sound-properties and gstreamer-properties, and still, i dont get sound under totem :/
[14:57] <thaytan> SiDi: does the 'test' button work in the sound preferences panel?
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear Did you go through the troubleshooting section we linked earlier
[14:58] <|newbie|> I'll check digg for the story about google's loosing control
[14:58] <Jack_Sparrow> |newbie| Please stop the offtopic
[14:58] <SiDi> thaytan: no but it does for OSS
[14:58] <UnknownFear> JackSparrow: yes, but I have no idea what to do about making kernals and all that stuff
[14:59] <xingyuan> i think google is definitely having problems!!
[14:59] <kernel> google..
[14:59] <crazy_monkey> how can I apply changes to sharing options to ALL subfolders? I allow read/write access to the folder and still have to check every single file or it says permission denied
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear THat is the problem with unsupported hardware
[14:59] <kernel> goole is..
[14:59] <kernel> =.=..
[14:59] <thaytan> SiDi: erm, that's weird. Maybe it's a pulseaudio thing? (is pulseaudio running?)
[14:59] <hackel> Good, I'm not the only one having problems with Google...  Time to switch to Yahoo!
[14:59] <SiDi> thaytan: no it's not, i took care of it
[14:59] <Pie_565> use #google for google related stuff
[14:59] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: my sound card IS supported. I used to have Ubuntu and I got it to work, but that was months ago. I'm starting fresh with Ununtu
[14:59] <Jack_Sparrow> crazy_monkey We can give you commands to change that recursively
[14:59] <devendra_> seems to be no problem for local google site - search still works on google.co.in
[15:00] <xnmrph> I've got a vfat partition mounted as user,rw etc but the files on it are "owned" by root. If I gksudo nautilus, it still won't let me change the owner to "me." Same as if I try to chown. Any ideas?
[15:00] <thaytan> SiDi: not sure why you would only have OSS support then
[15:00] <jared1> Okay -- I've consolidated my problem!  Since (I think) JRE is installed now...I would like to know how to install the package into OO.ORG and the plugin into Firefox.
[15:00] <SiDi> thaytan: err actually pulseaudio launched itself at the same time than gnome-sound-properties, i killed it, retrying xD
[15:00] <thaytan> SiDi: ok
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> xnmrph First, check the ownership: Open a terminal and type cd /media ...then type... ls -la ...then, do the following, replacing “yourPartition” with the name of the partition (e.g. /sdb1)... sudo chown -R username:username /media/yourPartition  (On a live system you must create a user name first) followed by... sudo chmod -R 755 /media/yourPartition ... Finally, check to see if it worked by doing another ls -la to verify the p
[15:00] <Jack_Sparrow> ermissions are set
[15:01] <SiDi> thaytan: thanks, it works now :)
[15:01] <soundray> xnmrph: FAT does not support ownership in the way that ext3 does.
[15:01] <thierryr> hi
[15:01] <thaytan> SiDi: ok
[15:01] <war10ck> ok i need help..... can some1 link to america army.deb file?
[15:01] <soundray> xnmrph: follow Jack_Sparrow and have a look at the ubottu page:
[15:01] <xnmrph> Well, the files have an owner and I can't modify it. Will do - thanks
[15:02] <soundray> !fat
[15:02] <war10ck> help
[15:02] <jared1> In OpenOffice, I checked "Tools > Options > Java" and then clicked "Add"
[15:02] <jared1> It now wants a path and I'm a bit confused as to what next.
[15:02] <war10ck> HELLO
[15:02] <Pie_565> is there any plans for HFS/HFS+ (journalled) write access in 9.04?
[15:02] <nj32> why is google giving spyware warning on all sites in search results?
[15:02] <thierryr> sorry i realise this is not really the place, but anyone else has got issues with google ? all my searches fail and i get "this site may harm your computer"
[15:02] <UnknownFear> war10ok: Ask your question :)
[15:02] <ackbahr> Hi guys! I restored my laptop's HD with clonzilla but when I try booting, I get a grub "error 2"; can someone help?
[15:02] <war10ck> link to a deb file for america army
[15:03] <|newbie|> I'm sorry, professor
[15:03] <thierryr> nj32, you get that too ?
[15:03] <war10ck> i never found one
[15:03] <UnknownFear> war10ck: http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?p=2636601
[15:03] <aaronr> http://current.com/items/89772215/google_blocks_the_entire_internet.htm
[15:03] <xnmrph> OK, tried that. Comes up with 'not permitted' for each file
[15:03] <|newbie|> I'll stop the offtopic and turn off my cellular
[15:03] <SiDi> thaytan: as i was saying, thanks it worked (me just crashed :( )
[15:03] <UnknownFear> wak10ck: Follow the link I posted
[15:03] <nj32> thierryr: yeah dude, it's surprising... youtube, google video all affected :D
[15:03] <xnmrph> The user:user ... are both the user I am trying to change to or "from:to" ?
[15:03] <war10ck> dont work  http://forum.americasarmy.com/viewtopic.php?p=2636601
[15:03] <|newbie|> nj32: Jack_Sparrow doesn't allow any offtopic, shut up
[15:04] <SiDi> xnmrph: its actually "user:group"
[15:04] <soundray> !fat | xnmrph
[15:04] <maverick340> whats wrong with google !
[15:04] <war10ck> all
[15:04] <Jeruvy> ya, I'm going back to lurk until google problems fixed.  this is really OT.
[15:04] <|newbie|> http://techlife.scriptful.com/gadgetrain/2009/01/breaking-news-google-mistakes-every-result-is-malicious.html
[15:04] <|newbie|> here's the story about google
[15:04] <NeoLogic> what's up with google?
[15:04] <xingyuan> it's hacked
[15:04] <maverick340> looks big
[15:04] <xingyuan> problem
[15:04] <maverick340> :P
[15:04] <thierryr> thanks newie
[15:04] <NeoLogic> freaking crazy
[15:04] <UnknownFear> war10ck: Why will the .deb not work?
[15:04] <war10ck> ;D i didxD
[15:04] <thierryr> newbie
[15:05] <SiDi> xnmrph: if you have a file owned by user1 and which group group1 can acceed, you can change this to user2 by typing chown user2 file, and if you also want to change the group, then chmod user2:group2 file
[15:05] <paulr> new security feature - to stop drive-by-browser bugs on websites, they mark all sites as harmful
[15:05] <xnmrph> SiDi: On this machine, I have one account. Call it "me" I want to change the owner of the files on this vfat partition from "root" to "me" so I can rw them
[15:06] <thaytan> SiDi: good stuff. I'd suggest getting pulseaudio to work and using that as the output, or if you can't, set the 'autospawn=false' bit in /etc/pulseaudio/client.conf
[15:06] <soundray> SiDi: remember xnmrph is trying this on a vfat
[15:06] <war10ck> i dont find a deb. file for america amry!!!!!!!! ;S all link its kinda f*** up
[15:06] <UnknownFear> paulr: instead of drive-by-shooting for people, its drive-by-browsing for websites :P
[15:06] <SiDi> xnmrph: i don't exactly know how it works but you have to set the rights and owner when you mount the partition
[15:06] <xnmrph> If I try to change permissions via "gksudo nautilus", it says I don't have the necessary permissions
[15:07] <soundray> SiDi, xnmrph: please use the link that ubottu gave you
[15:07] <xnmrph> The vfat partition is mounted: auto,user,rw
[15:07] <SiDi> xnmrph: you can't directly change rights on vfat/ntfs partitions as it is not supported. That's why it's recommanded using ext3 instead of vfat, but i assume you got windows and don't have the choice :) Try to find how to give read/write rights to your user instead of root
[15:07] <xnmrph> I've already followed a guide on how to mount the partition.
[15:07] <dinesh372> is ubuntu totally virus free or some antivirus is available
[15:07] <bnovc> i'm trying to install vmware tools in ubuntu and having tons of problems... i wondered if there were any straightforward guides for 8.10... i had to manually edit one of the linux kernel headers and now its dying saying it can't find my X.org version
[15:07] <dayo_> dinesh372: u can try clamwin for linux
[15:07] <geoaxis> is there a way i could search the repository for a file which would be installed by a package, i know the file name but not the package which it comes in
[15:07] <war10ck> my ipod touch its a camera!!! i cant synk musick!!!!!!! ffs
[15:08] <SiDi> xnmrph: well i think you can set the UID of the owner when mounting, and then you should have it set to 1000 instead of 0 (1000 is the user created at install)
[15:08] <dayo_> dinesh372: there are no known viruses for linux, though.
[15:08] <kroisis> ok, and back to my original question: is there a way to pass options via command line to "dpkg reconfigure"? I'd like to pass it options to reconfigure ipmasq without having to enter it's little ansi menu...
[15:08] <ortsvorsteher> !virus | dinesh372
[15:08] <barisha> i need help with exim4!!!!!!!!
[15:08] <UnknownFear> war10ck: The iPod Touch does not work with Linux, unless it is jailbroken. Here is the link to the Linux installation of America's Army Special Forces http://files.filefront.com/Americas+Army+Special+Forces+Linux+Full+Install/;3760475;/fileinfo.html
[15:08] <jared1> Okay -- attempted to install "openoffice.org-java-common_2.0.2-2ubuntu12.7_all.deb" and the official status after downloading is "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libjaxp 1.2-java"
[15:08] <xnmrph> OK, but....I've copied the files from an NTFS partition to the VFAT partition. I didn't think FAT supported rights so I imagined that they would have been lost in the copy (?)
[15:08] <dayo_> barisha: u might want to try #ubuntu-server
[15:08] <gordonjcp> dinesh372: you get antivirus software for Linux, but it's only really useful for scanning files in email and on servers to stop other OSes getting infected
[15:08] <CyD> anyone else notice google being screwed up atm?
[15:08] <Jeruvy> bnovc: its a commone problem.  Make sure your headers are correct, and make sure your vmware tools can find them.  The how-tos are many and decent.
[15:09] <bnovc> every how-to i've found so far is wrong
[15:09] <war10ck> thz
[15:09] <kroisis> CyD  news coming in from everwhere on that one
[15:09] <Jack_Sparrow> CyD yes we all know
[15:09] <UnknownFear> CyD: Yes, we ALL notice it
[15:09] <UnknownFear> war10ck: No problem :P
[15:09] <jared1> Also, to the admin - recommend a MOTD change WRT Google.
[15:09] <Jeruvy> bnovc: no, they work
[15:09] <dinesh372> thanks
[15:09] <SiDi> tba
[15:09] <jared1> That way, they'll stop asking.
[15:09] <soundray> kroisis: man dpkg-reconfigure tells you how
[15:09] <kroisis> soundray thanks man
[15:09] <dinesh372> how to open a virus file as i want to read it
[15:09] <bnovc> Jeruvy: apparently not because i've tried 3 or 4 and they all lead to errors
[15:09] <Jeruvy> bnovc: what error?
[15:10] <bnovc> Jeruvy: why is this a common problem?
[15:10] <kroisis> soundray i must be brain-dead this morning or I'd have thought of that (lol)
[15:10] <xnmrph> If I sudo, though, I am effectively root, yes? So I should be able to change the permissions (?)
[15:10] <kailash> hey i got initramfs at startup....any idea????
[15:10] <SiDi> thaytan: actually pulseaudio doesn't launch on my session. it doesnt seem to be used by default yet on xubuntu installs, and i actually prefer staying on alsa as linux games and wine dont support pulseaudio correctly yet
[15:10] <bnovc> Jeruvy: well i first got an error about my kernel being the wrong version, so i edited version.h ... and now i'm onto the X.org one
[15:10] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: I replied, but you did not answer. My sound card is supported
[15:10] <wers> in what folder can i find the awn config files?
[15:10] <Jeruvy> bnovc: because most ppl download the wrong headers, vmware tools can't find them..  vmware.com is full of posts who cannot setup the headers properly.
[15:10] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear What sound card make and chipset
[15:10] <bnovc> Jeruvy: i did "apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`"
[15:11] <kailash> hey i got initramfs at startup....any idea????
[15:11] <UnknownFear> I have a CREATIVE EMU10K1 SBB0220 card
[15:11] <soundray> xnmrph: NO, you can't change permissions on a file system that does not have support for it
[15:11] <Jeruvy> bnovc: what how-to did you follow?
[15:11] <war10ck> what u think? itunes for linux soon?
[15:11] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow, am I doing something wrong WRT installing openoffice.org-java-common?  I googled and pulled the package off of packages.ubuntu.com.
[15:11] <xnmrph> How did the permissions get set in the first place then since I used nautilus to copy them (?)
[15:12] <bnovc> Jeruvy: i'm not sure, i've been searching for things like "ubuntu 8.10 vmware-tools"
[15:12] <SiDi> xnmrph: you can't change the permissions on vfat/ntfs partitions. These file systems don't have the same permission system than under linux and we don't know how to modify them
[15:12] <soundray> xnmrph: Linux forces a default permission setting on all files in a FAT
[15:12] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Are you trying to get a newer version that from the repo for your release?
[15:12] <SiDi> xnmrph: they're set when you mount the partition
[15:12] <xnmrph> The default is ro/root ?
[15:12] <Jeruvy> bnovc: did you read the instruction included with vmware?
[15:13] <jared1> Well, to be fair -- when I installed 8.10...no JRE at all
[15:13] <SiDi> xnmrph: the default is rw for root and r for the others if i'm not wrong
[15:13] <soundray> xnmrph: now if you could be bothered to read that link, you'd learn how you can change that default.
[15:13] <UnknownFear> war10ck: What do you mean by iTunes or Linux soon?
[15:13] <wips> When I boot I get an error from xorg: (EE) Problem parsing the config file (EE) Error parsing the config file. What do I do ? if I remove the xorg.conf file the problem is gone but then all the colors are wicked.
[15:13] <Gauntlet> is it just me or is everything in google results harmfull to my pc?
[15:13] <war10ck> itunes for linux
[15:13] <Jeruvy> bnovc: did you review the forums.vmware.com?  many common mistakes are highlighted there.
[15:13] <bnovc> Jeruvy: no... i didn't realize it had instructions for it...none are on the CD it mounts
[15:13] <UnknownFear> Gauntlet: YES!! People have been saying this for the past hour
[15:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Gauntlet We know about google thanks
[15:13] <Gauntlet> LOL?
[15:13] <bnovc> i'll search through their help
[15:13] <Gauntlet> LOL
[15:13] <Gauntlet> LOL
[15:13] <FloodBot1> Gauntlet: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:13] <Gauntlet> thats hilarious
[15:13] <UnknownFear> war10ck: Ah.. Who knows?
[15:14] <Jeruvy> bnovc: no, they come with your vmware package  (whichever one)
[15:14] <whisperkiller> this is kind of off topic, but google is being useless and I cannot find the info on the freenode site....how do I register a channel on freenode?
[15:14] <soundray> war10ck: please ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:14] <war10ck> ok
[15:14] <Jeruvy> whisperkiller: see #freenode
[15:14] <bnovc> Jeruvy: so the command i ran to install my headers is wrong?
[15:14] <UnknownFear> Can someone please tell me what the pastes is for? And what does "Enter as punctuation" mean?
[15:14] <Gauntlet> ah, funneh. How do I set custom resolutions in ubuntu?
[15:14] <Jeruvy> bnovc: how would I know :)
[15:14] <whisperkiller> jeruvy I just tried to join #freenode and it did not do anything
[15:14] <whisperkiller> i tried to do that before asking here
[15:14] <wips> Where can I see which driver is active for my vga card?
[15:15] <KruyKaze> my ethernet card stopped working today on my laptop
[15:15] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear it means dont paste into the channel,  we have a website you can paste into and just give us a link number
[15:15] <SiDi> Gauntlet: system -> preferences -> screen resolution
[15:15] <Jeruvy> whisperkiller: then you cannot, read the faq on freenode.net
[15:15] <KruyKaze> i tried different fixes
[15:15] <kailash> hey aanybody out there to help me????
[15:15] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. I might Say I'm a linux newbie. I just got a problem. After installing Wine and some win software on my pc sound stopped working. Is there any troubleshooting guide to reinstall the drivers etc to get the sound back?
[15:15] <soundray> UnknownFear: some unreasonable people use the enter key when reasonable people would use a comma.
[15:15] <KruyKaze> nothing worked
[15:15] <natrixnatrix89> please kelp
[15:15] <bnovc> its so disappointing how nothing in linux ever works without hours of searching for error messages
[15:15] <Gauntlet> SiDi that just gives you a list, I said custom
[15:15] <kailash> i got initramfs at startuup
[15:15] <kailash> any idea???
[15:15] <natrixnatrix89> if anyone willing please come private
[15:15] <Anon8415> hello all
[15:15] <Anon8415> i am having a biiiig problem
[15:15] <whisperkiller> jeruvy I don't understand...I read the FAQ from start to finish and I can't find that info
[15:15] <kernel> google is complete.
[15:16] <ortsvorsteher> !ask | natrixnatrix89
[15:16] <kailash> natrixnatrix89, hey i got initramfs at startup ....any idea???
[15:16] <SiDi> Gauntlet: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and manually add the resolution you want. I *strongly* recommand you to ensure your screen can run it before.
[15:16] <Anon8415> is anyone there pretty decent at ubuntu?
[15:16] <UnknownFear> soundray: Is that for links? I'm not quite following you. Do you mean making a question mark or ending your question?
[15:16] <Jeruvy> bnovc: like I said, installing vmware-tools is a very common issue for many.  You'll need to follow the how tos and deal with the error one by one.
[15:16] <Anon8415> i am a linux n00b and need help with dual booting
[15:16] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow, after fresh installing Ubuntu 8.10 (last week), there was no java in the release.  I run OO and under tools, no JRE.  So that's where I'm at, essentially.
[15:16] <Anon8415> and would really like some help
[15:16] <ortsvorsteher> !dualboot
[15:16] <xnmrph> This, you mean? -> user,auto,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[15:16] <KruyKaze> can anyone help  me with my network card?
[15:16] <Gauntlet> SiDi yes I tried that but it doesnt have a list in 8.10 apparently.
[15:16] <xnmrph> Yeah, that works. Cheers :-)
[15:16] <Anon8415> i have installed ubuntu
[15:16] <bnovc> Jeruvy: which is what i just said, too! and its ridiculous that this is so error prone
[15:16] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | KruyKaze
[15:16] <Anon8415> and install went great
[15:16] <Jack_Sparrow> !java
[15:16] <Anon8415> using 1 hdd
[15:16] <SiDi> bnovc: on my desktop windows couldnt recognise my screen res, after SP1 and several drivers installs. I had *no driver* to install on my desk+laptop with ubuntu, all hardware recognised directly...
[15:17] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | Anon8415
[15:17] <jared1> Ha -- thanks Jack.
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:17] <Anon8415> used the partition as it said
[15:17] <esox> Hi how can I save a list of all installed packages in synaptic to be able to reinstall all of them if I reinstall the system ?
[15:17] <Anon8415> gave ubuntu 15%
[15:17] <Anon8415> of the XP partition
[15:17] <Jeruvy> bnovc: this isn't a channel to rant in.  You have described no actual error, just complains about it not working.  What help can anyone provide without knowing what the error is?
[15:17] <dinesh372> how to install eclipse plugin in C language not java
[15:17] <SiDi> natrixnatrix89: go to the System Monitor and ensure wineserver.exe is not running (either kill it)
[15:17] <kailash> hey i got initramfs at startup...any body there to help mee?????
[15:17] <Anon8415> install went great
[15:17] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | Anon8415
[15:17] <soundray> UnknownFear: there is a lot of traffic in this channel. Therefore it is good etiquette not to cause unnecessary scrolling by using the Enter key more than necessary. That's what's meant by the request not to use Enter as punctuation.
[15:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Anon8415 Please  keep your questions all on one line, they are too hard to read the way they are
[15:17] <natrixnatrix89> Hi. Is there a troubleshooting guide if sound has stopped working?
[15:18] <soundray> !sound | natrixnatrix89
[15:18] <SiDi> natrixnatrix89: actually kill any .exe thing in the system monitor. Wine uses alsa by default and as you're using pulseaudio the sound gets locked till you get wine entirely closed (and sometimes you need to kill the wine processes manually because it crashed)
[15:18] <george1502> moin
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> natrixnatrix89 HAve you been to #Winehq
[15:18] <UnknownFear> soundray: Ah, I understand now. You mean, some people would randomly post "LOLLOLOLOLO" on different lines rather than using one line?
[15:18] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear yes
[15:18] <dinesh372> how to install eclipse plugin in C language not java
[15:18] <Anon8415> here is my story. i want to dual boot ubuntu 8.10 and xp pro. i have installed ubuntu and it went great, i used the partition guide in the setup and allocated 15% of the xp partition to ubuntu. install went amazing, and on reboot, i get the grub error 21.
[15:18] <Anon8415> i am using a SATA hdd
[15:19] <SiDi> natrixnatrix89: you should also set your sound drivers to "oss" in winecfg (the wine config window), and then use "padsp wine <exename>" instead of "wine <exename>" and you'll have sound on both wine apps and linux apps
[15:19] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: Makes sense now :) By the way, my sound card is supported
[15:19] <jason_> hello
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Anon8415 single drive or dual internal  or externals
[15:19] <george1502> I want to change the charset in ubuntu to ISO-8859-1.
[15:19] <SiDi> natrixnatrix89: read what i wrote, or join #winehq, i'm there too
[15:19] <soundray> Anon8415: do you have more than one hard disk drive?
[15:19] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear perhaps supported if you compile your own kernel, there are differsnt levels of  support
[15:19] <yoyoned> esox http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-169062.html
[15:20] <user_> Is there an official ubuntu-mid distro for devices like the EeePC?
[15:20] <wips> Where can I see which driver is active for my vga card?
[15:20] <erUSUL> wips: /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[15:20] <SiDi> Anon8415: grub error when trying to boot on XP or ubuntu ? and do you have one or two HDD ?
[15:20] <george1502> I tried dpkg-reconfigure locale, but no success.
[15:20] <ksergio> hello. Anyone knows what happened to kaudiocreator in intrepid?
[15:20] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: I used to have Ubuntu and I got my sound card working, but I don't think I had to re-compile kernels.
[15:20] <ezerhoden> wips: grep Driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:21] <kailash> hey i got stucked at initramfs during startup....need help???
[15:21] <kailash> plssss help me guys
[15:21] <ezerhoden> man, ubuntu servers are slooooowww
[15:21] <Toadlips> Anybody wanna hook a brotha up with a package issue?
[15:21] <UnknownFear> 1
[15:21] <UnknownFear> 	
[15:21] <UnknownFear> What is your question?
[15:21] <SiDi> Anon8415: grub error when trying to boot on XP or ubuntu ? and do you have one or two HDD ?
[15:22] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear Did you not understand the use of enter key
[15:22] <bnovc> Jeruvy: i get a lot of error messages, but I can't copy and paste them anywhere, because I can't copy out of vmware (no vmware-tools) and it unloads my ethernet module in ubuntu while it runs
[15:22] <Toadlips> UnknownFear: I installed an unofficial package, and it's using the same file as an official package
[15:22] <bnovc> i guess i can try loading it back afterward
[15:22] <kailash> UnknownFear, i got a black screen with initramfs during startup...
[15:22] <Jeruvy> bnovc: in situations like that I take a pic and upload it to imageshack :)
[15:22] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: I pasted that from the paste bins! I put in the user I wanted to post from, than the content, than I copied the text, but it put it wrong...
[15:23] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow -- I'm back.  Package Installer error "Dependency is not satisfiable: libjaxp 1.2-java"
[15:23] <jared1> :-_
[15:23] <jared1> ...err :-)*
[15:23] <bnovc> Jeruvy: eh, ya, but i'm just going to try to upgarde vmware workstation i think to see if this problem has already been fixed
[15:23] <goran__> is there any how to install kde 4.2 on ubuntu intrepid?
[15:23] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 Please dont do that, it spams the channel for everyone else
[15:23] <oneunder> apt-get install kde
[15:23] <jared1> Sorry.
[15:23] <soundray> bnovc: you can install the pastebinit package and use that
[15:24] <kailash> ikonia, hey i got stucked at initramfs during startup....help me?
[15:24] <dbansal> Hello Everyone!
[15:24] <bnovc> soundray: sounds like that would require internet access
[15:24] <george1502> hi dbansal
[15:24] <dbansal> :-D+
[15:24] <blunderbomb> I m sorry to come on here off topic but i woud figure  someone might know whats going on
[15:24] <dbansal> Hey george
[15:24] <dbansal> what's up?
[15:24] <soundray> bnovc: and you don't have that?
[15:24] <Jeruvy> bnovc: the only tip is make sure you're using a good kernel version (typically with ubuntu this isn't a problem) and verify the locations.  Some kernels simply won't work with vmware tools (see forums.vmware.com)
[15:24] <blunderbomb> google for many hours was show ing a warning on every link it would say "warning, this site may not be safe"
[15:24] <Joelito> hi all...how can I know when a file was created?
[15:24] <UnknownFear> dbansal: Don't use Enter key for punctuation
[15:24] <blunderbomb> anybody heard of this?
[15:25] <bnovc> soundray: the vmware tools install takes down my internet
[15:25] <Dr_willis> Joelito,  ls -l filename should show the info
[15:25] <natrixnatrix89> Thank's SiDi I'll try it
[15:25] <george1502> dbansal: I want to get rid of UTF-8.
[15:25] <bnovc> Jeruvy: well, i'm sure its well written and would say "this version is not supported" (or probably not)... but i think i would have seen that 8.10 doesn't work with vmware all over?
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> blunderbomb We all know.. it will be fixed soon
[15:25] <dbansal> Anyone know  how to work nvidia x server?
[15:25] <Joelito> Dr_willis: no, only show modified
[15:26] <Jeruvy> bnovc: it works fine, I use it in shop.
[15:26] <jared1> Any ideas why I can't install openoffice.org-java-common?  Google search for the Error text yields zilch.
[15:26] <dbansal> george1502: what is utf-8?
[15:26] <Dr_willis> Joelito,  thats as good as you re going to get i imagine..
[15:26] <Joelito> oh...well..thanks
[15:26] <blunderbomb> thx jack what was the deal?
[15:26] <soundray> bnovc: I see, that's annoying. Perhaps you can save the error messages to a file on a USB stick and transfer it to your host system via that.
[15:26] <george1502> The ubuntu standard charset.
[15:26] <Jeruvy> bnovc: I even have jaunty running esxi atm.
[15:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list    (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[15:27] <amischi_> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[15:27] <bnovc> Jeruvy: so, if you're able to install it, then it must be my vmware-tools installer that is the broken part... i do have a pretty old workstation version
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptfix
[15:27] <dbansal> and replace it with what?
[15:27] <Jeruvy> bnovc: what version?
[15:27] <amischi_> hi i have problem with dpkg
[15:27] <bnovc> Jeruvy: 5.5.1
[15:27] <Jack_Sparrow> amischi_ Read aptfix above
[15:28] <soundray> amischi_: see what ubottu said ^^
[15:28] <bnovc> i think it is pretty old
[15:28] <netos> http://digg.com/tech_news/Google_may_harm_your_computer_9
[15:28] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: What does that package do that you linked to jared1?
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> netos Stop.. we know
[15:28] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow, copy-pasted your instructions.  Did you need something from?  I wasn't sure what the in parentheses meant.
[15:28] <SiDi> goran__: if noone has the answer here you should have a look at #kubuntu
[15:28] <qdb> hello
[15:28] <Jeruvy> bnovc: that is pretty old, but should still work, the errors are key to a solution however.
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear tells me his sources list.. it is a command, not a link
[15:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 if done right , it will return a http link for me
[15:29] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow oh, lol. I tried to use it :P
[15:29] <goran__> goran__, i got the answer.. aptitude install kde.. but i hope that wont broke my system :)
[15:29] <goran__> SiDi, *
[15:29] <jared1> Er.
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear look at the pastebin link..
[15:29] <goran__> :D
[15:29] <jared1> Did it?
[15:29] <netsrot> Hi, how do I make a java website display content? I have enabled java in firefox but it still require to install some kind of java? isn't it installed by default in ubuntu 8.10?
[15:29] <dbansal> anyone know how to work twin view?
[15:29] <dbansal> for nvidia?
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 look in the term where you typed it
[15:29] <qdb> hello. how can i check whether updates was right updates?  ubuntu 8.10. the update before last update was requiring restart?
[15:29] <ruckerz_> I'm trying to fix my grub installationa. I pretty much get unknown partition when rebooting. I need to know what /dev address my root device is. can I do that from within grub?
[15:29] <Jack_Sparrow> dbansal /join #nvidia
[15:30] <soundray> dbansal: it's explained in a readme in /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ruckerz_ yes
[15:30] <goran__> dbansal, install nvidia-settings.. you have twinview option in there
[15:30] <bnovc> Jeruvy: easier just to upgrade...i've already spent vastly longer chasing error messages than i should have to to install ubuntu
[15:30] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: Does it provide the pastebin link in the channel?
[15:30] <dbansal> goran_
[15:30] <ruckerz_> Jack_Sparrow what's the keyword?
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear No.. in the term for you to paste to a helper
[15:30] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.com/f642fac47
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> ruckerz_ ,ay I pm you
[15:30] <Jack_Sparrow> may
[15:30] <ruckerz_> sure
[15:30] <dbansal> when i click save to x configuration file
[15:30] <dbansal> it says unable to remove old backup
[15:31] <dbansal> i have the console working
[15:31] <goran__> dbansal, be sure that you are running nvidia-settings as root (sudo nvidia-settings)
[15:31] <tarelerulz> I was looking up picture and one of the picture come up to link flaged by google as have malware .  I when to the site . How do I find out about malware threats for Linux  and  virus  etc .
[15:31] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: Oh. You mean the "Poster" field? Do I put who I want to post to? I tried that, than I pasted it into the channel, but it made it look weird
[15:31] <qdb> hello . you cannot say me?
[15:31] <dbansal> i got it through system administration nvida x server settings
[15:31] <Jeruvy> bnovc: you haven't met Murphy yet :)
[15:31] <george1502> bye
[15:31] <goran__> dbansal, run a terminal program, and type sudo nvidia-settings
 as an FYI, google's adware detection system was a bit broken earlier
[15:32] <Deon> a bit broken?
[15:32] <soundray> qdb: we can see you all right. Ask your question again, it's not clear what you meant
[15:32] <Deon> I'd say a lot broken!
[15:32] <dbansal> goran
[15:32] <dbansal> should i pick twin view
[15:32] <dbansal> or x screen
[15:32] <jcapinc> GOOGLE IS BACK UP
[15:32] <Deon> And although it's shameless advertising, anyone want to make the 17 year old kid from Melbourne's day by digging his story on it? xD
[15:33] <Jeruvy> who cares, switched to yahoo :)
[15:33] <goran__> dbansal, you said u want twin view, so pick that :)
[15:33] <dbansal> do you know the difference?
[15:33] <qdb> do you remember the last update ? ok? then the previous? ok? it did require restart, right?
[15:33] <dbansal> between twin view and seperate x screen?
[15:33] <bnovc> Jeruvy: huh?
[15:33] <Deon> And although it's shameless advertising, anyone want to make the 17 year old kid from Melbourne's day by digging his story on it? xD
[15:33] <dbansal> :-D
[15:33] <dbansal> i have no clue
[15:33] <Deon> And although it's shameless advertising, anyone want to make the 17 year old kid from Melbourne's day by digging his story on it? xD
[15:33] <Deon> http://tinyurl.com/googledigg
[15:33] <jared1> I'm assuming Jack_Sparrow is busy in PM, yes?
[15:33] <Jack_Sparrow> yes
[15:33] <Jeruvy> bnovc: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murphys_law
[15:33] <soundray> qdb: yes, version upgrades usually require rebooting.
[15:34] <UnknownFear> dbansal: Please, do not use the Enter key as punctuation
[15:34] <kailash> anyone here knows about getting stucked initramfs during startup....
[15:34] <dbansal> I dont understand what that means?
[15:34] <bnovc> Jeruvy: oh, heh, thought you were referring to a person here at first
[15:34] <jared1> Got it -- lemme know if you need that pastebin link again, Jack_Sparrow.
[15:34] <qdb> i say about this concrete update
[15:34] <_cb> I know how to program in windows (Delphi) trying to figure out how to program in Linux. Guess it is a different paradigm.  Would like to ouput to a GUI and connect to the Firebird database. Suggestions?
[15:34] <BonezAI> anyone know what is going on with firefox and google... every single site says it may harm my computer and it wont let me browse
[15:34] <qdb> soundray
[15:34] <Sabayon> how to know the image's info from terminal?
[15:34] <dbansal> nevermind, i see what you mean
[15:34] <goran__> dbansal, well i recommend twinview.. if u select separate screen i wont be able to move windows from one screen to another...
[15:34] <soundray> dbansal: keep what you're saying on ONE line
[15:34] <UnknownFear> dbansal: Say what you want on one line only please
[15:34] <Jeruvy> bnovc: he lurks here :)
[15:34] <dbansal> sorry about
[15:34] <tarelerulz>  LorenXo, when I got to look link to check out the site it says it don't work try again in 30 seconds.  How would I tell if I had one in the first place , malware , virus ,etc
[15:34] <bnovc> Jeruvy: that's especially true when you use software written by people who aren't paid, since they don't consider nearly as many error cases :(
[15:34] <jcapinc> try again google was having issues
[15:34] <Popz> LorenXo sucks
[15:35] <soundray> qdb: what do you mean by "this concrete update"
[15:35] <_cb> BonezAI I think it is fixed. Not occuring anymore
[15:35] <soundray> ?
[15:35] <MoLoot> BonezAI, what is the exact message?
[15:35] <qdb> the update before the last
[15:35] <Jeruvy> bnovc: that is such a load of crap, I cannot even begin.
[15:35] <BonezAI> _cb, yes it is fixed now, thanks
[15:35] <bnovc> Jeruvy: so far i've found out that i had to delete my previous ubuntu install because you'll just get errors trying to upgrade 7.04 (completely awful this happens) and that my vmware version doesn't work with this ubuntu version (of course again doesnt say so directly and spits errors)
[15:35] <dbansal> ok, i picked twin view however, when i click apply, the whole window is spanned across my two monitors. But, my other monitor just looks horrible, it is red and blury
[15:35] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 You need to edit your sources list, may are rem'd out
[15:35] <soundray> qdb: can you please describe your problem, the whole story, from the beginning
[15:36] <Jeruvy> bnovc: you should have upgraded sooner, but you still can, change your repo's back to the legacy and upgrade, change to current and upgrade again.
[15:36] <goran__> dbansal, select correct resolution for that monitor
[15:36] <jared1> Jack_Sparrow, how do I do this?
[15:36] <qdb> if it did not require update then that was hack!
[15:36] <fermio91> i, ive a problem with firefox in ubuntu, when i was on a chat on web, this should recharge the page to show me the other account's reply but my firefox don't recharge automatically the chat... someone can help me?
[15:36] <escandalo> algun españolito?
[15:37] <soundray> qdb: the problem, please
[15:37] <Popz> si senor
[15:37] <Jack_Sparrow> jared1 please /join #Jack_Sparrow
[15:37] <bnovc> Jeruvy: i shouldn't have to modify my repositories to be able to upgrade (or if i do it should tell me to do so not error about me having a network problem)....but anyway i accept the failures and deleted it and got 8.10
[15:37] <soundray> !es | escandalo
[15:37] <Sabayon> how to know the image's info from terminal?
[15:37] <dbansal> the correct resolution is set however, i dont understand why it is red
[15:37] <soundray> Sabayon: what type of image?
[15:37] <Myles> hi
[15:37] <Myles> investigating
[15:37] <goran__> dbansal, me neither :|
[15:38] <qdb> please give me ability to check the updates that was with a web site!
[15:38] <Popz> LorenXo needs to reboot
[15:38] <Jeruvy> bnovc: actually I think the package maintainers said you 'should' since this 'process' is well documented, see ubuntuforums.org or packages.ubuntu.com
[15:38] <Popz> he'll be back later
[15:38] <soundray> qdb: what's your first language?
[15:38] <qdb> tatar
[15:38] <qdb> and what is your?
[15:38] <qdb> english?
[15:39] <UnknownFear> Jack_Sparrow: am I able to join your chat aswell?
[15:39] <bnovc> Jeruvy: having to chase errors about not being able to find files isn't well documented in the UI ... and when i searched for them it brought up a bunch of crap before.....anyway vmware 6.5 is ready to install
[15:39] <dbansal> thanks goran
[15:39] <dbansal> maybe if i restart
[15:39] <dbansal> do you think if i restart that will change anything?
[15:39] <Sabayon> soundray: almost jpegs, sometimes pngs
[15:40] <escandalo> hi!
[15:40] <trmanco> need some help on adding a ppa! the package does no get authenticated, even though I add the key. any ideas?
[15:40] <Jeruvy> bnovc: again, is so OVER-documented it isn't even funny...but many folks are ill-prepared for kernel-header installation.  Blame VMware corp for this.
[15:40] <Jack_Sparrow> UnknownFear sure for a sec..
[15:40] <goran__> dbansal, try restarting X.. ctrl + alt + backspace, but first save changes to X config file
[15:40] <UnknownFear> escandalo: welcome, do you have a question
[15:40] <ScoTTie> anyone know why a fresh install of 8.10 would be hammering my router non stop ?
[15:40] <ScoTTie> 8.10 server*
[15:40] <soundray> Sabayon: there are jpeginfo and pnginfo programs in Ubuntu. You will have to install extra packages to get these utilities.
[15:41] <escandalo> no thanks.  at the moment...
[15:42] <dour> bonjour tout le monde
[15:42] <Eritrean> Hi
[15:42] <Eritrean> Anybody knows how to install foreign fonts?
[15:43] <soundray> Eritrean: search for the appropriate package, e.g. 'apt-cache search font eritrean', then install it with 'apt-get install'
[15:43] <joejc> how do i open the run window?
[15:43] <Eritrean> I did
[15:43] <SiDi> !fr > dour
[15:43] <paul68> rdw200169: are you here my friend?
[15:43] <soundray> !info ttf-sil-abyssinica | Eritrean
[15:43] <Eritrean> I cannot get it to work in Open Office
[15:44] <Jeruvy> !bash | joejc
[15:44] <qdb> soundray  do you use 8.10 and have installed all updates?
[15:44] <soundray> Eritrean: you've installed the package above?
[15:44] <soundray> qdb: yes
[15:44] <joejc> i want to run it without using terminal
[15:44] <dayo_> joejc: Alt F2
[15:44] <joejc> thanks
[15:44] <soundray> Eritrean: make sure you exit OOo properly and restart after installing a new font
[15:45] <dayo_> joejc: u're welcome
[15:45] <Jeruvy> dayo_: um, isn't that a bash terminal :)
[15:45] <dour> hi!
[15:45] <dour> how to config my gcc
[15:45] <dayo_> Jeruvy: what is?
[15:45] <Sabayon> !exif
[15:46] <dour> i wanna execut my program on the terminal
[15:46] <Jeruvy> dayo_: what you just said
[15:46] <Eritrean> When I add vowels -- the English vowel shows up --- what am I missing
[15:46] <dayo_> Jeruvy: the run window?
[15:46] <dour> someone?
[15:46] <soundray> !info exif | Sabayon
[15:46] <Dr_willis> dour,  you are being a bit vague.. tell the channel what you are trying to do.
[15:47] <Jeruvy> dayo_: what did you say?
[15:47] <dayo_> Jeruvy: Alt+F2 gives you the Run window. i thought he wanted the Run window
[15:47] <dour> when i put on command sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:47] <dour> i met mistakes
[15:48] <rraj_be> any one use wll USB modem for internet
[15:48] <dour> and it says packedge are  no install
[15:48] <soundray> dour: please copy the errors to a pastebin and let us have the URL
[15:48] <dour> ok
[15:48] <Eritrean> Amharic/Tigrigna works perfectly in Text Editor  -- not so in Open Office
[15:48] <dayo_> time for beers and a movie. see u fine people later :-)
[15:48] <rraj_be> i am in search of a HOW TO use wll USB modem in linux
[15:49] <KruyKaze> i need help with my nic plz
[15:49] <KruyKaze> it stopped working today
[15:50] <soundray> Eritrean: does it work in firefox?
[15:50] <SiDi> KruyKaze: what is a nic ?
[15:50] <KruyKaze> network card
[15:50] <SiDi> KruyKaze: i can't help you then :P
[15:50] <KruyKaze> :)
[15:50] <Eritrean> yes
[15:51] <Eritrean> in this chat as well
[15:51] <KruyKaze> can anyone help me with ethernet not connecting?
[15:51] <soundray> Eritrean: have you tried in Abiword?
[15:51] <rraj_be> any one could you help me to install or to configure a WLL USB Modem in linux please
[15:51] <Eritrean> Here is the Tigrigna script ትግርኛ
[15:51] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: can you explain the problem?  What is your current config?
[15:51] <jj_> just a question, there are color schemes how to add them?
[15:52] <chewyTree> hey does anyone here know the IRC address for the Pirate Bay?
[15:52] <KruyKaze> the wired connections are greyed out
[15:52] <jj_> i never added a color scheme and havent gotta clue where to add them lol
[15:52] <soundray> Eritrean: what happens when you paste that into OOo?
[15:52] <Eritrean> No - I dont have that program
[15:52] <KruyKaze> i use static ip at work
[15:52] <paul68> Dr_willis: can you also connect with ultravnc over the internet?
[15:52] <Boomking> Any one know what i can use to connect through my com3 port to connect to my consol port on my cisco router????
[15:52] <Eritrean> It does paste OK in Open Office
[15:52] <KruyKaze> today i can't connect
[15:52] <rraj_be> any one know how to connect internet via USB modem
[15:52] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: I have no idea what you are looking at, explain.
[15:52] <Dr_willis> paul68,  vnc over the internet - is best done with a ssh tunnle. vnc can be insecure.
[15:52] <rraj_be> wll
[15:52] <qdb> who does use 8.10 and installed all updates do you remember did the previous of the last update require system restart?
[15:52] <Dr_willis> !vnc | paul68
[15:53] <karim> hi all
[15:53] <Boomking> hi
[15:53] <ortsvorsteher> !minicom
[15:53] <karim> i have a problem getting my wireless work on my toshiba a205
[15:53] <jj_> so no one knows where to add color schemes?
[15:53] <KruyKaze> usually when i connect ethernet it just auto detects
[15:53] <ortsvorsteher> !info minicom
[15:53] <KruyKaze> but in network manager all wired connections are greyed out
[15:53] <Boomking> jj_ what do u mean lol ? with gnome
[15:53] <ortsvorsteher> !info minicom | Boomking
[15:53] <jj_> yes lol
[15:54] <Eritrean> I can copy and paste from Text Editor -- but that would be a pain
[15:54] <KruyKaze> i am using my cell connection now
[15:54] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: sounds like you've lost your nic.  Since your static confirm you actually have an IP still.
[15:54] <jj_> sorry i wasnt so specific, i been using ubuntu for some time
[15:54] <soundray> Eritrean: you could try abiword
[15:54] <jj_> and i just wanted to know how to added schemes lol
[15:54] <Eritrean> besides I need to format
[15:54] <Boomking> ortsvorsteher: thats alot ill give it a try
[15:54] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[15:54] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: how?
[15:54] <chewyTree> Anyone know the IRC address for the PirateBay?
[15:55] <Guest11056> i followd the steps to http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=792158
[15:55] <Boomking> !info minicom
[15:55] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: I'd call the isp/netadmin and make sure it's up.
[15:55] <Cpplus> Sigh... why is flash performance still so bad on Linux. I'm running the latest adobe plugin with a Geforce 9600M GS driver 180.22
[15:55] <Boomking> :P
[15:55] <Guest11056> when i reach step make
[15:55] <Boohbah_> !ot | chewyTree
[15:55] <qdb> who does use 8.10 and installed all updates do you remember did the previous of the last update require system restart?
[15:55] <Guest11056> i get please enable wireless extensions
[15:55] <Guest11056> how do i enable them
[15:55] <Guest11056> ?
[15:55] <jj_> for example boomking,,, goto ubuntu-art.org
[15:55] <Cpplus> for example www.diablo3.com  the character section
[15:55] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: then start troubleshooting the box.
[15:55] <jj_> and see there are schemes...
[15:55] <jj_> not themes
[15:55] <jj_> lol
[15:55] <jj_> i dunno where to add them :(
[15:55] <Mnemonic69> kernel update required reboot
[15:55] <Eritrean> I will give it a try although I would have liked it if could work in all Open Office programs and the Gimp  --- really really necessary
[15:55] <Boomking> jj_: oooooooo lol
[15:55] <soundray> qdb: there is no such thing as "the previous to last update". Packages are being updated all the time.
[15:55] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: oh it was my coworker was using it a min before i plugged mine
[15:56] <qdb> hm
[15:56] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: he was using windows
[15:56] <soundray> qdb: some package updates require reboots (notably kernel updates). Others don't.
[15:56] <Guest11056> anyone knows how i can enable wireless extensions ?
[15:56] <Cpplus> could anyone shed some light on how to improve flash performance or some version that gives best performance? And please tryout the character section of www.diablo3.com thx!
[15:56] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: did he fix it for you?
[15:56] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy:  usually it would show that it's trying to connect at least
[15:56] <qdb> where are kernel files ? in /boot ?
[15:57] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: open a terminal and type 'ifconfig', pastebin the output
[15:57] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: no he umplugged his and left i just plugged mine in
[15:57] <Eritrean> Maybe someone who installed Arabic font can help me here (the procedures might be similar)
[15:57] <KruyKaze> ok
[15:57] <soundray> qdb: you can get a list of the files in your current kernel package with 'dpkg -L linux-image-$(uname -r)
[15:57] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: ifconfig or ipconfig?
[15:58] <PsynoKhi0> hi, is ufw much more advisable than Firestarter to setup iptables?
[15:58] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: also find /etc/network/interfaces and pastebin that also
[15:58] <coddy2> hello
[15:58] <gordonjcp> Eritrean: Ubuntu comes with quite a lot of fonts
[15:59] <coddy2> yep
[15:59] <ortsvorsteher> !hello | coddy2
[15:59] <KruyKaze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112120/
[15:59] <soundray> Eritrean: try exiting OOo, then move the config directory to a backup location ('mv ~/.openoffice.org
[15:59] <gordonjcp> Eritrean: check it hasn't already got the font you're looking for
[15:59] <coddy2> thanks
[15:59] <jj_> anyone know how to remove ati's proprietary driver?
[15:59] <soundray> Eritrean: try exiting OOo, then move the config directory to a backup location ('mv ~/.openoffice.org2 ~/ooo-backup'). Then restart OOo
[16:00] <coddy2> Ubuntu's much better than slow old vista
[16:00] <shaunalynn> I'm trying to mount an image as an hfs+ filesystem on ubuntu. The cp error is "wrong fs type" and dmsg is telling me that it is "unable to find hfs+ superblock." Do you all have any idea what's up?
[16:00] <soundray> gordonjcp: Eritrean gets mixed font displays in OOo (fine in other programs)
[16:00] <ortsvorsteher> !ot | coddy2
[16:00] <KruyKaze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112122/
[16:00] <coddy2> ok
[16:00] <jefones> oi pessoal
[16:00] <Dr_willis> !hfs
[16:00] <Dr_willis> Hmmm can linux do hfs+ ? or just hfs?
[16:01] <laufer_mnm> if apt-cache showpkg subversion gives me 1.4 and 1.5, and 1.4 is installed, how can i install or upgrade to 1.5? apt-get upgrade doesnt upgrade it
[16:01] <soundray> Dr_willis: it can do hfs+, but no journalling
[16:01] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: did it work?
[16:01] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: your eth1 has a address and is erroring like nuts.  It's a private address not public.  Your config is actually not in your /etc/network/interfaces, some public info seems to be commented out.
[16:01] <war10ck> the america army dosnt work.... plaese give a DEB file
[16:02] <kunwon1> laufer_mnm, you shouldn't cross-post to #debian and #ubuntu, you have one or the other. Also, your IP is blacklisted for brute force attacks, you should get that taken care of.
[16:02] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: eth1 is my cellphone
[16:02] <qdb> can i check my some main files with other people's system? with md5 sum?
[16:02] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: so what device is supposed to get an address?
[16:02] <jj_> i searched for an hour trying to find how to uninstall ati's new proprietary driver 9.1, and i looked in apt-get remove list, cant seem to find it to remove it.
[16:02] <KruyKaze> eth0
[16:02] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: then uncomment your config in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:03] <KruyKaze> i am using my cell now to communicate
[16:03] <gordonjcp> soundray: ah, missed that bit
[16:03] <KruyKaze> ok and reboot?
[16:03] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: then ifdown eth0, ifup eth0
[16:03] <dour> http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-9842
[16:03] <gordonjcp> soundray: OOo is not something I ever use ;-)
[16:03] <dour> here is the pastbin
[16:03] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: what does that mean?
[16:03] <laufer_mnm> kunwon1, sry but @debian nobody answered so i tried here, because ubuntu normaly faster answers. brutforce, why?
[16:03] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: add lines?
[16:03] <dour> someone can help me?
[16:03] <jj_> dour, i been trying too lol
[16:03] <qdb> may be write list of md5s of files to a file and then make md5 of that file both people and check them?
[16:04] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: how did you install them?
[16:04] <jj_> the driver?
[16:04] <soundray> gordonjcp: aren't you the lucky one. :)
[16:04] <kunwon1> laufer_mnm, your ip address is listed on a blacklist for brute force attacks, go here and investigate http://www.dronebl.org/
[16:04] <dour> ok
[16:04] <PsynoKhi0> yes
[16:04] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: no, just uncomment (remove the hash '#) so that the config is read.  Then in a terminal 'ifdown eth0', then if successful, 'ifup eth0'
[16:04] <jj_> sudo sh  "and the binary file"
[16:04] <jj_> i installed it manually
[16:04] <|TheBarold|> anyone wanna help troubleshoot installing Gnomad2
[16:04] <laufer_mnm> intressting, thx for info.
[16:04] <KruyKaze> ok
[16:05] <jj_> if i were had used envy it would been alot better lol
[16:05] <jj_> but i wanted the new 1 ;)
[16:05] <jj_> lol
[16:05] <KruyKaze> ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[16:05] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[16:06] <rdw200169> KruyKaze, it means there's not definition of eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:06] <qdb> soundray does your system also use /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic ?
[16:06] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: sudo dkms remove -m fglrx -v 8.573 --all
[16:06] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: repaste your interface file
[16:06] <orudie> hi! how can install this ? lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[16:06] <KruyKaze> ok 1 min
[16:06] <|TheBarold|> installed Gnomad2 from .deb and still get an error "gnomad2: error while loading shared libraries: libmtp.so.6: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory"
[16:06] <jj_> i installed... 9.1
[16:06] <soundray> qdb: yes
[16:06] <qdb> is its md5 a486ab60d59422845c94c422ffc7a2b3 ?
[16:06] <laufer_mnm> kunwon1, thx again. we had this ip since december, so this was not from our host.
[16:06] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: yep
[16:07] <kunwon1> laufer_mnm, np
[16:07] <jj_> ok lets see if this works lol
[16:07] <qdb> but there are so many files to check
[16:07] <laufer_mnm> kunwon1, any idea for my problem ... need to fix our svn?
[16:07] <soundray> qdb: no, it isn't -- but then I'm on 64bit
[16:07] <qdb> i am not
[16:08] <soundray> qdb: what are you worried about?
[16:08] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, hm.. a package search came up w/ only this option for intrepid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/libmtp-dev
[16:08] <jj_> there is no file fglrx in my list even :(
[16:08] <kunwon1> laufer_mnm, you probably have svn meta-package installed, it will probably involve removing that metapackage and installing the 1.5 package
[16:08] <KruyKaze> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112129/
[16:08] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112129/
[16:09] <jj_> thanks for the help though
[16:09] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: comment out 'auto eth0', sorry should have noticed that.
[16:09] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: thanks, do you think that would work for Hardy as well? sorry forgot to mention that
[16:09] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: are you sure it's even installed at all?
[16:09] <eut> i'm having trouble trying to change the brightness level on my laptops monitor. in the past whenever the fn keys werent supported i'd just echo 100 > /proc/acpi/video/VID/LCD0/brightness and it would go to the maximum level. but thats not working for me now. any ideas?
[16:10] <qdb> that by update my system was "feed"ed with some spywared files by replacing the right update server.... soundray
[16:10] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, Hardy came up w/the same: libmtp.dev
[16:10] <jj_> yep
[16:10] <soundray> qdb: what makes you think that?
[16:10] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: will tyr it
[16:10] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, whoops, libmtp-dev
[16:10] <eut> i'm experiencing this problem only after upgrading to 8.10
[16:10] <jj_> i i have checked fglrxinfo
[16:10] <jj_> its there
[16:10] <eut> (fresh install)
[16:10] <jj_> jj@jj-laptop:~$ fglrxinfo
[16:10] <jj_> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[16:10] <jj_> OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
[16:10] <jj_> OpenGL renderer string: ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3400 Series
[16:10] <jj_> OpenGL version string: 2.1.8395 Release
[16:10] <FloodBot1> jj_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:11] <aar> Hi, I'm a bit concerned that the viruses / trojans I receive by e-mail might be running through wine (they might not do too much harm as they are written for win32 systems, but I don't want them in my box at all). What would be the best way to prevent wine from running automatically. E.g. can I get the system to ask for confirmation before a wine application runs?
[16:11] <Jeruvy> !pastebin | jj_
[16:11] <qdb> i do not want say that many little reasons it is hard and paranoic-looking
[16:11] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: crapola....opened it with .deb installer and it says "ame version already installed"
[16:11] <konfused1> hi all im having a problem with the 8.10 livecd dropping to busy box during bootup, i have a nvidia 750a chipset mb. any suggestions?
[16:11] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: ok
[16:11] <jj_> !pastebin
[16:11] <jj_> dunno never used that
[16:11] <jj_> lol
[16:11] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, alright, try running the program as root (sudo)
[16:12] <soundray> qdb: if you're really seriously concerned, the best thing you can do is to get an install CD from a location you trust (Shipit perhaps) and do a fresh installation.
[16:12] <jj_> was trying to paste something
[16:12] <qdb> thanks
[16:12] <soundray> qdb: I don't believe you've been hacked in this way, though -- it's too unlikely.
[16:12] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: do i have to reboot now?
[16:12] <aleksandr> hi! help me please to change system out system from Xv to X11 in tvtime.
[16:13] <eighthour> anyone know of a good how to for setting up netzero in ubuntu....third computer in a month i've worked on that used dialup still....i would really like to figure this out....
[16:13] <riley_dt> anyone know which apt-get package I should get to get the man pages for "semop"?
[16:13] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: no, just do ifdown eth0, no errors.. then ifup eth0.
[16:13] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: i know i have libmtp.so.7 installed, seen that in synaptic, you would think it would cross reference
[16:13] <aar> Hi, I'm a bit concerned that the viruses / trojans I receive by e-mail might be running through wine (they might not do too much harm as they are written for win32 systems, but I don't want them in my box at all). What would be the best way to prevent wine from running automatically. E.g. can I get the system to ask for confirmation before a wine application runs?
[16:14] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[16:14] <bazhang> aar, install clamav
[16:14] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, I only searched for libmtp.so; interesting that libmtp.so.6 is missing
[16:14] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, that search came up dry... interesting.
[16:14] <aar> bazhang, I've already got it, but that doesn't provide realtime protection.
[16:14] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze:  ok, then your static settings are wrong.
[16:14] <bazhang> aar, realtime protection for what? are you connecting the wine apps to a windows box?
[16:15] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: are you on 32 or 64 bits?
[16:15] <jj_> 64
[16:15] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: but lets take another peek at /etc/network/interfaces once more
[16:15] <KruyKaze> i reverified my settings
[16:15] <konfused1> hi all im having a problem with the 8.10 livecd dropping to busy box during bootup, i have a nvidia 750a chipset mb. any suggestions?
[16:15] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: I'd appreciate if you asked prior to sending PMs
[16:15] <Titan21> Hi there... got a problem with my Touchpad with 8.04 on my Eee 701. synclient reports it's working, but my mouse does't move, ... and in the touchpad settings sensitivity is set to it's lowest, and I can't raise it... Think got something to do with Xorg.conf, .. would that be right?
[16:16] <jj_> yes i am sorry about that
[16:16] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: it seems like my card is not even detecting the ethernet cable
[16:16] <jj_> didnt know if you left
[16:16] <aar> bazhang, realtime protection against win32 malware that might auto-execute, or which I might run believeing it to be something it is not. clamav works for on-demand scan, but not as a real-time AV solution.
[16:16] <riley_dt> can anyone tell me which package semop.3 man page isin?
[16:16] <qdb> another thought is that files may be are probably replaced by physical access, soundray, today i was not at home and my server was not working near two hours maybe somebody has switched it off to access. i do not remember exactly whether autostart was configured in bios :(  . it would be good if i could check files with other peoples not reinstalling whole system for some suspend
[16:16] <eut> riley_dt, apt-file find semop
[16:16] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: could be.  Cables go bad all the time :)
[16:16] <bazhang> aar, infect what though?
[16:16] <riley_dt> thanks eut!
[16:16] <eut> riley_dt, sure
[16:17] <eut> any ideas about my brightness issue?
[16:17] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: just installed libmtp-dev with root gdebi, still get same error
[16:17] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112133/ long command, careful
[16:17] <jj_> alright thx
[16:17] <aar> bazhang, since wine creates a layer between win32 commands and linux commands, some of the malware funtiosn will be "translated", so the effects might not be as dire as in a win32 box, but you could find that the virus spreads itself through the /usr directory, for instance.
[16:18] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: i'll try another cable
[16:18] <aar> bazhang, I was thinking more along the lines of something that would prompt a confirmation every time a win32 application is run, so I can confirm whether it is something I want to run or not.
[16:18] <hikenboot> http://pastebin.ca/1322350 when i do a aptitude update or aptitude install -f or  aptitude safe-upgrade I get the following libz associated error anyone know how to fix?
[16:18] <dougl> is there a free alternative to parallels for linux... other than wine?
[16:18] <G__81> i installed Ubuntu 8.10 for the first time and i am really impressed. Great Work Guys. I see a big difference between this and Fedora as i ve been a long time fedora user
[16:18] <hdanak> hi, how do I delete the files in /usr/src ?
[16:18] <G__81> and its just amazing
[16:18] <G__81> keep up the good work
[16:18] <hikenboot> dougl xen or vmware workstation or qemu or kqemu
[16:18] <amaurea> how can I find out which nvidia cards are supported by which versions of ubuntu?
[16:18] <ronj> hello
 Hi there... got a problem with my Touchpad with 8.04 on my Eee 701. synclient reports it's working, but my mouse does't move, ... and in the touchpad settings sensitivity is set to it's lowest, and I can't raise it... Think got something to do with Xorg.conf, .. would that be right?
[16:19] <PsynoKhi0> is firestarter a bad option to setup firewall rules?
[16:19] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, i'm sorry, but i don't know :( this looks like something ubuntu packages can't fix
[16:19] <dougl> hikenboot, hey - thanks for the info - checking google now :)
[16:19] <Mnemonic69> wine, xwine, cross-over, virtual machine?
[16:19] <rdw200169> PsynoKhi0, the Firestarter firewall is excellent
[16:19] <erUSUL> PsynoKhi0: depends on your needs
[16:19] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: it weird, i have installed it from .deb, from apt-get and from source, neither works
[16:19] <aar> dougl, and FreeDOS for DOS applications
[16:20] <rdw200169> |TheBarold|, yes, that library seems to be missing completely
[16:20] <erUSUL> aar: or DosBox ;P
[16:20] <dougl> woot ! good stuff guys thanks :)
[16:20] <gruff> anyone know how to fix kernel panic error?
[16:20] <atlef> !firestarter | rdw200169
[16:20] <hikenboot> I know the problem is  a bad libz but how do i fix http://pastebin.ca/1322350?
[16:20] <aar> erUSUL, yup
[16:20] <rdw200169> atlef, don't tell me!, tell PsynoKhi0
[16:20] <hikenboot> it might also be a conflict with evolution
[16:20] <jj_> PsynoKhi0 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112135/
[16:20] <ronj> I'm running 8.04 and my wifi (intel 2200) is broken, apparently since an update. is there anybody here in the same case? Note: no, I don't wish to update to 8.10 because of problems with its -rt kernel
[16:20] <jj_> it didnt work..
[16:20] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: thanks for the help, i'll keep working on it
[16:21] <|TheBarold|> let you know if i figure out a fix or not
[16:21] <atlef> rdw200169: well, firestarter is not a firewall, it is only a gui for iptables
[16:21] <CAiRO__> how can i compile a kernel the ubuntu way? i've found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but it shows nowhere the commands to start the compilation if youre _not_ using the sources from git
[16:21] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: or do have any other recommendations for a Nomad mp3 player file browser?
[16:22] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: i'll try another plug
[16:22] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: brb
[16:22] <rdw200169> atlef, please, i'm not an idiot; i use firestarter, and i've build firewalls from scratch; it's easier to say 'firewall' than to say 'an abstraction layer above iptables'
[16:22] <war10ck> join #server homelien.no
[16:22] <gregcha117> pulseaudio suddenly doesnt recognize my sound device but alsamixer in terminal does just find how can i get my sound back?
[16:22] <war10ck>  /join #server homelien.no
[16:22] <PsynoKhi0> rdw200169: ok, because a few posts on the ubuntu forums advised against it due to its age
[16:23] <atlef> rdw200169: ok, but it still is not a firewall
[16:23] <Titan21> Hi there... got a problem with my Touchpad with 8.04 on my Eee 701. synclient reports it's working, but my mouse does't move, ... and in the touchpad settings sensitivity is set to it's lowest, and I can't raise it... And also if I go to the edge of my touchpad my mouse slowly moves...
[16:24] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: can't uninstall form the original shell script either?
[16:24] <PsynoKhi0> from*
[16:25] <rdw200169> PsynoKhi0, well, in order to appease atlef, let me put it this way: Firestarter implements a very adequate iptables configuration that is reliable, safe, and highly configurable; consequentially, the features it provides in the GUI are easy to implement and change; firestarter is the only easy to use package that i know of that both supports internet connection sharing and port-blocking/opening
[16:25] <CAiRO__> how can i compile a kernel the ubuntu way? i've found https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile but it shows nowhere the commands to start the compilation if youre _not_ using the sources from git
[16:25] <riley_dt> eut should apt-file update take awhile or give any kind of notification message while it is running?
[16:25] <JonnyDY2J> hi all. I am looking for some help to setup SQUID as a public proxy.
[16:25] <atlef> rdw200169: see, that was not hard at all
[16:25] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: also when i try to get libmtp6 from Synaptic, i get this error "libmtp6: Package libmtp6 has no available version, but exists in the database."
[16:25] <PsynoKhi0> rdw200169: ok thanks.. semantics aside...
[16:26] <eut> riley_dt, unfortunately not... if you do a: ps aux | grep wget you'll see that its downloading all in info
[16:26] <Benj79> hi everyone
[16:26] <riley_dt> eut ok just wanted to make sure its making progress:)
[16:26] <jegHegy> hi. i've recently let update-manager install the 2.6.27-11 kernel and headers and now virtualbox can't start my VMs. sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup just prints usage information like the parameter does not exist, /var/lib/dkms/ does contain vboxdrv, and invoke-rc.d dkms_autoinstaller start lists vboxdrv. HELP! :(
[16:26] <Benj79> i'm trying to get my NVIDIA X server display working
[16:26] <jj_> PsynoKhi0 : the ati-driver-installer-9-1-x86.x86_64.run file?
[16:26] <eut> riley_dt, with the ubuntu repos being so slow lately it may take a very long time. i have absolutely no idea
[16:27] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: changing cables didnt fix it
[16:27] <PsynoKhi0> anymore votes in favour of firestarter?
[16:27] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: yes
[16:27] <Benj79> i'm getting an error "unable to create new X config backup file..."
[16:27] <riley_dt> eut its all good
[16:28] <jatt> how do I show the computer icon on my desktop (ubuntu/gnome)
[16:28] <jj_> will try
[16:28] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: sorry was afk, can you repaste your /etc/networking/interfaces again?
[16:28] <PsynoKhi0> erUSUL: I'm giving ufw+gufw a tryy but I'm missing the easy access to ICMP rules
[16:28] <jj_> PsynoKhi0 gonna try to uninstall from it
[16:28] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: yes hold on
[16:28] <riley_dt> anyone know how to get su to work so I can type su username instead of using sudo
[16:28] <atlef> jegHegy: well, you need the virtualbox kernel files for your installed kernel, and that is always released later on.
[16:28] <_newbie3> !ciao
[16:28] <aar> riley_dt, try sudo so
[16:28] <_newbie3> !list
[16:28] <aar> riley_dt, try sudo su
[16:28] <yoyoned> riley_dt: what are you trying to do
[16:28] <jegHegy> atlef: i thought dkms recompiled it on-the-fly for me, at least that was the case with earlier kernel updates in intrepid.
[16:28] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112141/
[16:28] <atlef> jegHegy: or get the closed source version of virtualbox
[16:28] <orudie> hi, really need help on this, I need to make sure that i have lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[16:29] <jj_> im behind a router so i guess its pointless for me to use a firewall
[16:29] <riley_dt> yoyoned I usually always run as root in my dev enviroment and typing sudo takes extra time
[16:29] <jj_> lol
[16:29] <yoyoned> !it>_newbie3
[16:29] <Benj79> QUESTION: Trying to setup NVIDIA X server settings - enable a dual monitor.  Getting error "Unable to create new X config backup file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup'."
[16:29] <riley_dt> I want to be able to su - root
[16:29] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: i think my card needs to be activated
[16:29] <riley_dt> i dunno just a habit thing
[16:29] <aar> riley_dt, try sudo su
[16:29] <JonnyDY2J> anyone know how to setup squid
[16:30] <riley_dt> aar ya i think I can make a macro for that thanks:)
[16:30] <atlef> Benj79: do you have nvidia-settings installed?
[16:30] <yoyoned> riley_dt: it can be done, but the channel ops don't like that advice being given in this room
[16:30] <aar> riley_dt, NP
[16:30] <ortsvorsteher> !squid | JonnyDY2J
[16:30] <yoyoned> !noroot
[16:30] <Dr_willis> last i used squid thehomepage/docs were pretty straight forward.
[16:30] <riley_dt> ya its fine
[16:30] <riley_dt> I actually work at red hat
[16:30] <JonnyDY2J> thanks ortsvorsteher
[16:30] <riley_dt> but only upstream projects
[16:30] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[16:30] <Dr_willis> there definatly no need to do 'sudo su'  either.   sudo -s, or sudo -i will suffice
[16:31] <Benj79> atlef: i enabled it through system->hardware drivers menu
[16:31] <riley_dt> but i wanted to try out ubuntu
[16:31] <riley_dt> looks like you guys have done a real nice job
[16:31] <orudie> anyone please
[16:31] <orudie> hi, really need help on this, I need to make sure that i have lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[16:31] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/112143/
[16:31] <aar> Dr_willis, and what would be the difference?
[16:31] <jj_> riley_dt  fedora is alright
[16:31] <atlef> Benj79: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[16:31] <Dr_willis> aar,  its how the  users 'enviroment' gets passed over to the root shell
[16:32] <Dr_willis> aar,  and and some other settings get set
[16:32] <Benj79> k, i'll try it
[16:32] <aar> Dr_willis, ok
[16:32] <riley_dt> jj_ I dont work on fedora much
[16:32] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: ok
[16:32] <gerber> Connection to host "gerber:5900" was closed, i got this error what this means ?
[16:32] <riley_dt> i maintain some of the clustering stuff www.openais.org
[16:32] <hareldvd> A bug in installing nail (heirloom-mail). The link /usr/share/man/man1/nail.1.gz -> heirloom.1.gz should link to: heirloom-mailx.1.gz
[16:32] <Dr_willis> aar,  http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2008/05/09/a-root-shell-on-ubuntu-the-right-way/
[16:32] <riley_dt> its in ubuntu as well
[16:32] <gregcha117> pulseaudio broke my sound last time i updated how can i get it back?
[16:33] <Dr_willis> gerber,  tryconnecting to 127.0.0.1:5900 for the proxy server
[16:33] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: then ?
[16:33] <riley_dt> thought it would be good to have it as a test environment
[16:33] <fdr> hello! I am looking for a way to use my bluetooth headset as input/output device under ubuntu... do you know if there is a guide, please? Thanks!
[16:33] <Benj79> atlef: nvidia-settings is already the newest version.
[16:33] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: restart eth0.  'ifdown eth0', note error, if no error, 'ifup eth0'.
[16:33] <Benj79> nvidia-settings set to manually installed.
[16:33] <Benj79> The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
[16:33] <Benj79>   xulrunner-1.9-dom-inspector
[16:33] <Benj79> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[16:33] <Benj79> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[16:33] <FloodBot1> Benj79: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:33] <liam> hey just installed ubuntu 7.04 but having trouble upgrading to latest ubuntu. how can i do this?
[16:33] <riley_dt> anywaythanks all for the help!
[16:33] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: ifdown: interface eth0 not configured
[16:34] <gerber> Connection to host "127.0.0.1:5900" was closed.
[16:34] <Dusk_> i want emerald to start as the default window manager..how can i do that??
[16:34] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: btw may I ask why you want to remove the drivers?
[16:34] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: ok, repaste your /etc/network/interfaces.
[16:34] <KruyKaze> ok
[16:34] <gerber> Connection to host "127.0.0.1:5900" was closed.
[16:34] <atlef> Benj79: then alt+f2 and type gksu nvidia-settings. see if you can not figure it out from there
[16:35] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112146/
[16:35] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: brb
[16:35] <Benj79> thanks atlef
[16:36] <Dusk_> i want emerald to start as the default window manager..how can i do that??
[16:36] <liam> hey just installed ubuntu 7.04 but having trouble upgrading to latest ubuntu. how can i do this?
[16:36] <ftab> is there any Sega and Nitendo emulator for Linux?
[16:36] <gerber> Connection to host "127.0.0.1:5900" was closed.
[16:36] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: the open driver is still alot more stable, while i do get 3d and etc with this, i cannot run... recordmydesktop, and when compiz is on, i cannot view videos in VLC
[16:36] <ftab> if yes then which one is famous?
[16:36] <tenang> hello
[16:36] <aar> Dr_willis, (just out of curiosity) if the command -s is the equivalent of sudo, why is sudo -s considered good syntax, but not sudo su?
[16:36] <Titan21>  Hi there... got a problem with my Touchpad with 8.04 on my Eee 701. synclient reports it's working, but my mouse does't move, ... and in the touchpad settings sensitivity is set to it's lowest, and I can't raise it... And also if I go to the edge of my touchpad my mouse slowly moves...
[16:36] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: ok
[16:36] <tenang> got a question, why is my ubuntu always slow when i do a dual boot install?
[16:36] <aar> Dr_willis, sorry -- the equivalent of su I meant
[16:36] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: i installed 9.1 in hopes it might be better than the last....
[16:37] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: it is
[16:37] <tenang> yep
[16:37] <ftab> is there any Sega and Nitendo emulator for Linux?
[16:37] <jj_> i have a mobility 3xxx
[16:37] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: well for me at least
[16:37] <liam> anyone?
[16:37] <tenang> does that mean i have to unmount my drives and remount in ubuntu?
[16:37] <jj_> and it has issues :(
[16:37] <gerber> can connect remote desktop ?
[16:37] <atlef> Benj79: hope you get it to work
[16:37] <CAiRO__> does somebody know where i can get the desktop kernel with pae enabled?
[16:37] <cirv9> hey! is there an easy way to remove packages from the Ubuntu installation? (before they are installed) I dont want OO.org, gnome games etc..
[16:37] <Dr_willis> aar,  that site details it .. one reason is sudo su is redundant. and may not set the settigns properly on some disrtos.
[16:38] <gerber> can't connect remote desktop ?
[16:38] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: what vid card do you have?
[16:38] <liam> hey just installed ubuntu 7.04 but having trouble upgrading to latest ubuntu. how can i do this?
[16:38] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: 4830 here, no flicker with xv and compositing (not 100% perfect but at least no flicker)
[16:38] <aar> Dr_willis, ok thanks
[16:38] <Dr_willis> aar,  'bad security practice' also :)
[16:38] <ftab> is there any Sega and Nitendo emulator for Linux?
[16:38] <yoyoned> cirv9: use the alternate install cd
[16:38] <Dr_willis> ftab,  yes.
[16:38] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: if you have compiz running... are you able to watch video in vlc?
[16:38] <Titan21> liam, when you kust installed 7.04, why dont you just use the newest version?
[16:38] <gerber> can connect remote desktop ?
[16:38] <cirv9> yoyoned: thanks
[16:38] <gerber> can't connect remote desktop ?
[16:38] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: yes but they're kind of cropped
[16:39] <ftab> Dr_willis: which one?
[16:39] <liam> yeah thats what i want to do
[16:39] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: on top?
[16:39] <liam> i want to dwonload the newest upgrade
[16:39] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: yep
[16:39] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: same... before it flickered
[16:40] <Dr_willis> ftab,  wich one for what? theres a great many emulator in the repos. check the package manager.    Theres proberly more out that are not in the repos.
[16:40] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: they did mention they resolved flickering.. working as advertised :)
[16:40] <Titan21> sry liam, ... dont know ^^
[16:40] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: back
[16:40] <Heliodor> hello
[16:40] <gordonjcp> aar: "sudo -i", "sudo su" and "sudo bash" all have slightly different subtle implications
[16:40] <gerber> can't connect remote desktop ?
[16:40] <gordonjcp> aar: mostly you're going to want "sudo -i"
[16:40] <jj_> PsynoKhi0:  at least its progress lol, try running recordmydesktop...
[16:40] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: just rebooted still same problem
[16:40] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[16:40] <liam> ah thats a shame
[16:41] <simion314> for configure kde3 apps (fonts) what package do i need?
[16:41] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: 8.10
[16:41] <liam> when i use the upgrade manager it says it cant find the repositories
[16:41] <Dr_willis> aar,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo   is also a good read
[16:41] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu_Intrepid_Installation_Guide#Installing_the_restricted_drivers_manually
[16:41] <gerber> can't connect remote desktop ?
[16:41] <liam> so basically i can't upgrade then?
[16:41] <gordonjcp> aar: you shouldn't do "sudo su" because it's bad security practice
[16:41] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: as a last resort, follow those guidelines till the "dkpg -i" part
[16:42] <DJ-phYre> I got a ? regarding filesystems. I am going to be dual-booting between Ubuntu and Windows while using a 1TB drive for storage. What filesystem do I need to put on the 1TB to allow both OS's to read/write data. Are linux NTFS drivers stable?
[16:42] <PsynoKhi0> and use the "dkpg -r" instead
[16:42] <Heliodor> I am having trouble logging in to the ProFTPD server, i have set my username in the config file and the password is properly generated. still it says login failed. Do i need any special permissions on the FTP root, or is this some other error?
[16:42] <gerald> hi
[16:42] <gordonjcp> aar: *but* - it's like using a piece of machinery with the safety covers removed - sometimes you just need to, but you must know what you're doing
[16:42] <gerald> hi everyone
[16:42] <orudie> hi, really need help on this, I need to make sure that i have lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[16:42] <gerber> can't connect remote desktop ?
[16:42] <tenang> do i want to download .deb or .tar with intrepid?
[16:42] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: i install every driver with the shell command "sudo apt-get sh......."
[16:43] <CAiRO__> does somebody know where i can get the desktop kernel with pae enabled?
[16:43] <melinux> #ubuntu-it
[16:43] <gordonjcp> tenang: depends what you want to di with it
[16:43] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: any difference when using another way?
[16:43] <yoyoned> orudie: why would you want a lenny package
[16:43] <liam> can anyone else help?
[16:43] <orudie> yoyoned because it is needed by a game server that i run on my server
[16:43] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: and I follow the unofficial wiki's method... I'm happy with fglrx, you're not... seeing any trend? heheh
[16:44] <s0u][ight> hello can someone who has a standard ubuntu installation give me what echo $PATH gives
[16:44] <yoyoned> liam: there is a way to do it.  It was discussed in the chat last nite, but I don't remember any of the links.
[16:44] <Dillizar> on witch torrent client i can choose witch file i want to be downloaded
[16:44] <Benj79> atlef it's all fixed - thanks
[16:44] <gerald> how do i install drivers for my lexmark 1200 series printer
[16:44] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: yea im beginning to see haha
[16:44] <atlef> Benj79: good for you
[16:44] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: seriously, that what I can think of based on the error message you dropped in the pastebin
[16:44] <liam> right
[16:45] <liam> so where you reckon i can go then?
[16:45] <gerald> can someone help me
[16:45] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: build the packages and then use dpkg to remove the ones that are installed on your comp
[16:45] <Mnemonic69> echo $PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[16:45] <gerald> liam can u help me
[16:45] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: might be far fetched but in your case... not much to lose eh?
[16:46] <liam> gerald cant even help myself lol
[16:46] <aar_> s0u][ight, /home/foo/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
[16:46]  * revourbis Hello!
[16:46] <gerald> lol
[16:46] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: i think building is better imo, seems to work with your computer a little better
[16:46] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: though the wiki doesn't mention the amdxvlibsomething that builds in the process
[16:46] <Benj79> so i just setup dual monitors, and i can move my mouse from one screen to the next, but apparently not program windows - is that normal?
[16:46] <gerald> no but seriously i need help with my lexmark printer
[16:46] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: so make sure you incled all packages in the dpkg -r line
[16:46] <orudie> yoyoned so can you help me on this ? right now it shows that i have libc6          2.8
[16:47] <PsynoKhi0> brb
[16:47] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: something with your interfaces file is not correct.  Ifdown eth0 is clearly telling us that.
[16:47] <liam> yoyoned can you remember any sites at all that were dicussed?
[16:47] <gerber> i been here for 20 minute ,all ask question , but no one really answer not even one
[16:48] <yoyoned> liam: no, but they were in the ubuntu wiki.  The channel Op Flannel was the one who knwo them
[16:48] <gerald> does anyone know bout printers on ubuntu
[16:48] <liam> right
[16:48] <gerber> i been here for 20 minute ,all ask question , but no one really answer not even one
[16:48] <liam> i'll take a look but meanwhile does any one else know this: hey just installed ubuntu 7.04 but having trouble upgrading to latest ubuntu. how can i do this?
[16:48] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: i don't get why all my wired connections are greyed out today
[16:48] <Dr_willis> gerald,  cups.org is the defacto site to see how well supported a printer is...  most all mine work with no hassles..
[16:48] <yoyoned> orudie: I don't think you can install multiple versions
[16:49] <gerald> ive got a lexmark 1200 series
[16:50] <Dr_willis> gerald, i would look up that model at cups.org and the ubuntu forums then - if you are having issues with it.
[16:50] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: FYI, i got it figured out, went into Synaptic and removed the deb file i installed, then re-installed from Synaptic and now it works
[16:50] <|TheBarold|> rdw200169: also, would have helped if i had the usb cord plugged into the pc :O
[16:50] <yoyoned> liam: see if this will get you to 7.10, then you cag go up from there
[16:51] <yoyoned> liam: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades
[16:51] <atlef> for those with virtualbox problems after the kernel update, do this : sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup
[16:51] <DJ-phYre> I got a ? regarding filesystems. I am going to be dual-booting between Ubuntu and Windows while using a 1TB drive for storage. What filesystem do I need to put on the 1TB to allow both OS's to read/write data. Are linux NTFS drivers stable?
[16:51] <gerald> thanz alot mr willis
[16:51] <atlef> DJ-phYre: yes they are
[16:52] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: the only thing I could suggest is installing ethertool, and see if that can detect your hardware better.
[16:52] <miha> atlef: writing to NTFS too? that long was problem
[16:52] <miha> and you definetly cant write to hibernated NTFS partition
[16:52] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: in repos?
[16:52] <guntur_roxx> hey all
[16:52] <guntur_roxx> i want to ask something
[16:52] <liam> yoyoned tried that but i think those packages have expired
[16:52] <guntur_roxx> can anybody help me?
[16:52] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: should be 'sudo apt-get install ethertool'
[16:52]  * revourbis Anyone having that problem in wich Kubuntu wown't play Mp3's? Advice: upgrade to intrepid.
[16:52] <liam> i think i''ll have to download the full iso and upgrade from cd
[16:52] <Dr_willis> miha,  well.. :) its not  reccomended.. :)
[16:52] <yoyoned> DJ-phYre: basicly only 2 choices ntfs or vfat
[16:52] <liam> do you reckont that's my best option?
[16:52] <miha> Dr_willis: lol
[16:52] <Dr_willis> There are ext2/3 drivers for windows.. but ive had issues with those
[16:52] <yoyoned> liam: can you backup and do a clean reinstall
[16:53] <typokitty> /irc.rizon.de
[16:53] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: Couldn't find package ethertool
[16:53] <miha> Dr_willis: i am using development build of amsn that supports audio. it's not recommended yet though. it isnt too reliable, yet
[16:53] <miha> Dr_willis: but it kinda works :)
[16:53] <liam> looks like i may have to yoyoned
[16:53] <atlef> Dr_willis: so have I
[16:53] <liam> not a good first impression of ubuntu so far
[16:53] <guntur_roxx> somebody help me??
[16:53] <guntur_roxx> Hey there..
[16:53] <guntur_roxx> I'm Guntur from Indonesia
[16:53] <guntur_roxx> I want to install ubuntu 8.10 in my desktop pc..
[16:53] <guntur_roxx> i use windows xp..
[16:53] <guntur_roxx> i do boot the ubuntu 8.10 cd that i created from the iso file..
[16:53] <guntur_roxx> n ubuntu installation menu come out.. i click the install ubuntu.
[16:53] <FloodBot1> guntur_roxx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:53] <Jeruvy> KruyKaze: hmm, oh (bad memory) etherconf :)
[16:54] <miha> Dr_willis: i think best setup is to have primary NTFS for windows, razer or ext3 for linux and smaller, vfat partition to copy between two
[16:54] <KruyKaze> Jeruvy: i have ethtool installed
[16:54] <Dr_willis> miha,  unless you transfer 4+GB sized files around like i do..   I just use ntfs on a 'data' drive
[16:54] <miha> hehe
[16:54] <miha> ok
[16:55] <atlef> miha: well fat does not support large files, as in 4gb limitation
[16:55] <Jeruvy> miha: or use NFS
[16:55] <miha> atlef: okey some dvd images wont work, rest should, for me
[16:55] <miha> hehe
[16:55] <guntur_roxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112153/
[16:55] <XB23> when i do  apt-get autoremove  it removes packages that i still need, is there a way to clear it so it wont remove things i still need?
[16:55] <gerald> can anybody tell me where can i find a lexmark x1200 PDD file
[16:55] <atlef> miha: hehe
[16:55] <miha> XB23: it removes libraries that arent needed by any package
[16:55] <miha> it should be 'safe', i guess
[16:56] <atlef> miha: as long as it works for you, then.........
[16:56] <yoyoned> XB23: just apt-get install them after you aoutremove
[16:56] <XB23> but the libs are still needed
[16:56] <Jeruvy> XB23: don't use autoremove, just do the packages you wish to remove normally
[16:56] <XB23> theres loads though
[16:56] <XB23> kk
[16:56] <yoyoned> gerald: linuxprinting.org
[16:56] <perlmonke2> hi does anyone have any experience with soft raids?
[16:56] <miha> and in case apt-get hangs, apt-get remove --purge package :)
[16:57] <Jeruvy> !pm | guntur_roxx
[16:57]  * miha always comes here crying for that
[16:57] <UbuntuPa73>  BCM4306 wireless install help 8.04 please thanks
[16:57] <thorsten11> has anyone tried windows 7 in virtualbox yet?
[16:57] <perlmonke2> ive setup a raid 1 and I'm not able to boot from it in degraded mode, anyone have any suggestions
[16:57] <guntur_roxx> okay sorry..
[16:57] <yoyoned> thorsten11: yes
[16:58] <perlmonke2> unable to boot
[16:58] <atlef> thorsten11: yes
[16:58] <jj_> thorsten11 : i have actually installed it, faster than vista.... but.... not the saviour for windows they hype about
[16:58] <perlsyntax> does anyone know if the ATI Mobility Radeon 3470 with 26mb suport by linux  and do i have download a driver for it?
[16:58] <thorsten11> yoyoned: any trouble with it?  It keeps hanging on me in the install at " completing installation"
[16:59] <perlsyntax> 256mb
[16:59] <yoyoned> thorsten11: not that I can remember
[16:59] <PsynoKhi0> perlsyntax: it does
[16:59] <perlsyntax> i take it built in the kernel right
[16:59] <thorsten11> yoyoned: i may just not be patient enough lol, damn windows
[16:59] <Jeruvy> thorsten11: none.  works perfect.
[16:59] <perlsyntax> psynoKhi0 that if i am right
[17:00] <PsynoKhi0> perlsyntax: there are both opensource driver (radeonhd) and ATIs own binary (fglrx)
[17:00] <Jeruvy> !ati | perlsyntax
[17:00] <thorsten11> i just want to see what its like, see if it is as light weight as claimed to be
[17:00] <perlsyntax> i see that good.but the 3D driver i would have to download right?
[17:01] <Harde> What is the most lightweight video player in ubuntu?
[17:01] <KHG-Crew> ok
[17:01] <PsynoKhi0> perlsyntax: depends on which one you want
[17:01] <yoyoned> Harde: mplayer from the command line
[17:01] <perlsyntax> i just want to make sure i got 3D
[17:02] <thorsten11> i personally like vlc but i'm not sure if its lightweight
[17:02] <perlsyntax> but i was look at this  laptop that has that card.
[17:02] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: i think he will have to get the proprietary if he wants 3d support
[17:03] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: yup, but I mean, there are those from the prop driver manager and the latest form ATI
[17:03] <PsynoKhi0> different versions and different procedures
[17:03] <sileni> hey guys
[17:03] <perlsyntax> i just make sure before i get the laptop.
[17:03] <sileni> does anyone use a tool to pastebin from bash
[17:03] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: true, if hes not savvy with terminal he can use envy
[17:03] <thorsten11> sileni: hello
[17:03] <PsynoKhi0> perlsyntax: anyway, yes it will work
[17:03] <perlsyntax> thank
[17:03] <PsynoKhi0> jj_: not even sure envy is required
[17:04] <Bsims> Hey the latest vlc update appears broken I can't start it, it gives me this error Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[17:04] <mir1337> hallo
[17:04] <PsynoKhi0> oh sh*t my laundry
[17:04] <jj_> PsynoKhi0: lmao
[17:04] <mir1337> i want to connect to a router that uses wpa2-p. is it possible to do that with ubuntu 8.04?
[17:05] <ikonia> mir1337: depends on if the driver for your wirless card supports it
[17:05] <yoyoned> mir1337: sure, have you tried?
[17:05] <thorsten11> mir1337: i think that also depends on your hardware
[17:07] <mir1337> it is from d-link
[17:07] <mir1337> on vista it is working
[17:07] <mir1337> but i'd like to make it working on ubuntu, too
[17:07] <mir1337> when i config it, it jumps back to wpa..
[17:08] <ikonia> mir1337: it does depend on if the linux driver supports the encyption you want
[17:08] <jadeilson> oi
[17:08] <jadeilson> e ai pessoal
[17:08] <jadeilson> no ingles
[17:08] <ikonia> jadeilson!es
[17:09] <ikonia> ops
[17:09] <ikonia> oops
[17:09] <ikonia> !es | jadeilson
[17:09] <FloodBot1> ikonia: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:09] <ja2> Hi, I dont get ip-forward working in Ubuntu. Anyone got a suggestion?  sudo echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward  give me permission denied.
[17:09] <ikonia> ja2: use sudo
[17:09] <miha> mir1337: well ubuntu says WPA/WPA2 for everything :)
[17:09] <ja2> ikonia: I do sudo.
[17:09] <jadeilson> use sudo
[17:09] <etech> why does ubuntu not update to gnome 2.24.3?
[17:09] <ikonia> ja2: you need to quote the qhole command
[17:09] <miha> mir1337: though i just use wpa personal cause i can use weaker easier password that way
[17:09] <etech> i thought gnome is updated in ubuntu
[17:09] <ikonia> etech: that is a big update
[17:09] <ikonia> etech: it is - at times
[17:10] <jadeilson> oi
[17:10] <jadeilson> mim ajuda
[17:10] <ja2> ikonia: "Command not found"
[17:10] <miha> mir1337: 8.04 for example was minimum for phase2 authentication (PAP) for eduroam (radius stuff)
[17:10] <ikonia> ja2: what command are you using
[17:10] <bazhang> jadeilson, englishe here
[17:10] <mir1337> it is a dwl-g510
[17:10] <mir1337> from dlink
[17:10] <miha> 8.10 is minimum for new intel wireless card
[17:10] <ja2> ikonia:  sudo "echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward"
[17:11] <Jeruvy> mir1337: keep in mind that many wpa2 protocals are not well supported especially on consumer grade hardware,.
[17:11] <ikonia> ja2: sudo echo 1 > /proc/net/blah
[17:11] <jadeilson> como posso colocar o meu ubuntu totalmente português
[17:11] <thorsten11> i wonder why 8.10 would be the minimum with 8.04 being a LTS
[17:11] <jadeilson> tem como
[17:11] <ikonia> !br | ja2
[17:11] <ikonia> oops
[17:11] <miha> thorsten11: .27 kernel
[17:11] <ikonia> !br | jadeilson
[17:11] <miha> thorsten11: if you can get that on 8.04, fine
[17:11] <ja2> ikonia: Also tried " at other places and totally without. sudo "echo 1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward for instance, always permission denied.
[17:12] <etech> ikonia, sometimes?
[17:12] <miha> thorsten11: that's for centrino2
[17:12] <ikonia> etech: yes, depending on the reason and the update
[17:12] <thorsten11> miha: thats true
[17:12] <ikonia> ja2: try what I suggested
[17:12] <miha> thorsten11: i know, i used beta when i bought this notebook
[17:12] <thorsten11> miha: how was it?
[17:12] <lawndart> noob help needed pls, having an issue trying to edit a .conf plain text file. The OS keeps telling me I don't have permission??
[17:13] <ja2> ikonia: bash: /proc/net/blah: No such file or directory
[17:13] <miha> thorsten11: wireless was fine, rest mixed feelings
[17:13] <miha> hehe
[17:13] <ja2> ikonia: Cant seem to pipe stuff
[17:13] <ikonia> ja2: oh come on - you know /proc/net/blah is not a real thing
[17:13] <ikonia> ja2: yes, the redirect is not carrying the sudo permissions
[17:13] <Jeruvy> lawndart: add 'sudo' to the start, if your trying to use a gedit to edit a file use 'gksudo gedit...'
[17:13] <ja2> ikonia: I need to bring the sudo permission with the >. How is that done?
[17:13] <gregcha117> why isnt pulseaudio giving me any sound?
[17:14] <ikonia> ja2: just looking into it
[17:14] <gregcha117> my output device disappeared for no reason in the gnome volume controls
[17:14] <ja2> ikonia: Fantastic. You rock!
[17:14] <lawndart> you do that from the terminal window?
[17:14] <thorsten11> miha: lol
[17:14] <jpedroza> hey everyone. I am having some trouble getting a WG311 wireless card to work under 8.10. It can see the access point, but won't associate
[17:14] <Jeruvy> lawndart: yes
[17:15] <lawndart> I'm pretty sure i tried that one, but let me give it another shot...
[17:15] <gregcha117> can anyone help me get my sound back :(
[17:16] <guntur_roxx_2> hey there
[17:16] <guntur_roxx_2> sorry i disconneted
[17:16] <guntur_roxx_2> +_+
[17:16] <konradee> jpedroza -> what is the chip on that wg311 ?
[17:16] <guntur_roxx_2> can anyone help for http://paste.ubuntu.com/112153/
[17:16] <The_Rebel> how do i change X11's default cursor ?
[17:17] <tgpraveen> what are ppas
[17:17] <tgpraveen> ?
[17:17] <ja2> ikonia: Ive found some ip_forwarding stuff in /etc/sysctl.conf, but it will take a reboot?    net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
[17:17] <dougl> how can I change my run level to start a new kernel... err just boot my computer from grub again?
[17:18] <konradee> ja2 -> you can set them too with sysctl command for immediate effect
[17:18] <guntur_roxx> can anyone help for http://paste.ubuntu.com/112153/
[17:18] <lawndart> i tried that command w/t path to file, it asks me for my pwd, then brings up a blank file?
[17:18] <ja2> konradee: Ah, I try that since rebooting is not fun.
[17:18] <FilteredMojo> hello
[17:19] <Bsims> VLC  worked before the latest round of updates now I get this error Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries... any one have a clue what broke?
[17:19] <jpedroza> hello FilteredMojo
[17:19] <guntur_roxx> hello
[17:19] <FilteredMojo> does anyone know how they can help me decode/open my default.keyring file?
[17:19] <ja2> ikonia: I got my ip_forward = 1 now.
[17:19] <ja2> konradee: Thanks. Works. ip_forward = 1 now.
[17:20] <Melan> hey all, i am completly new to Ubuntu, how can i use my Fritz USB Stick on Ubuntu?
[17:20] <austin_> hey can someone give me a hand with installing a theme
[17:20] <jpedroza> Melan: What is that, a pen drive, or speakers?
[17:21] <Melan> to Connect to the internet?
[17:21] <Led_Zeppelin> I had my audio working for a while in 8.10 but now its not working. I did a fresh install. Anything I should do special like group permissions?
[17:22] <johndbritton> just installed the latest version of ubuntu, things are great except for a little slowness. Upon further inspection Xorg seems to be using a lot of processing time, any idea what I could do to speed things up?
[17:22] <n_nick> any good site where i can get the entire hindi film album downloads in mp3 format
[17:22] <jpedroza> I have been looking at the wireless interface with iwconfig and attempting to set the essid, it doesn't seem to stick.
[17:22] <jpedroza> even as root
[17:22] <Jeruvy> Melan: this is for debian, but should be a good pointer http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?p=92373&
[17:22] <austin_> im getting this message when i try and install my theme
[17:22] <austin_> here was a problem while extracting the theme.
[17:22] <tenang> how do i gain access to my xorg.conf file?
[17:22] <jpedroza> tenang sudeo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:23] <FilteredMojo> where can I find info on ubuntu keyrings?
[17:23] <jpedroza> */sudo
[17:23] <tenang> ty jpe
[17:23] <guntur_roxx> hello there.. why nobody answers me??
[17:23] <konradee> jpedroza -> if you make the entries in /etc/network/interfaces  they will stick
[17:23] <FilteredMojo> hey guntur
[17:23] <f4nt> FilteredMojo: what sort of information?
[17:24] <guntur_roxx> hey FilteredMojo
[17:24] <guntur_roxx> can u help me
[17:24] <SingAlong> HI all
[17:24] <FilteredMojo> i need to know how to view the file. I forgot the keyring password and I can't open the default.keyring file with text editor
[17:24] <jpedroza> konradee: There is no entry for wlan0 in interfaces
[17:25] <linux_guy> does a usb drive have to be ext3 in order to be bootable for xubuntu?
[17:25] <FilteredMojo> maybe, i'm not an expert at Ubuntu gunther, but what's nup
[17:25] <tgpraveen>  could someone direct me to the empathy ppas for ubuntu intrepid
[17:25] <guntur_roxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112153/
[17:25] <lawndart> need help editing a .conf file. gksudo gedit doesn't appear to be working, just brings up a blank file.
[17:25] <tomek> linux_guy, no
[17:26] <jpedroza> lawndart: Make sure you are passing the full path name of the file to be edied
[17:26] <jpedroza> :)
[17:26] <SingAlong> Ubuntu seems to be detecting my bluetooth dongle very well (I'm able to scan for other devices) but when I try to connect to any other device, it doesnt work. When I use my phone to connect to my comp, it says "connection refused".
[17:26] <tomek> linux_guy, i make bootable pendrive with ubuntu  8.10 and there was fat or ntfs, i dont remember
[17:26] <Led_Zeppelin> how do I disable runlevel 5 and get back to runlevel 3 ?
[17:26] <Jeruvy> !hcl > guntur_roxx
[17:26] <linux_guy> tomek, where did i go wrong then?  i tried to create a usb startup disk with xubuntu, and when i booted, it gave a not bootable error
[17:26] <lawndart> it's in /etc
[17:27] <f4nt> FilteredMojo: The keyring file is encrypted to my knowledge. Should be able to reset it though. Check http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/07/06/clearing-or-resetting-the-gnome-keyring/
[17:27] <lawndart> can I edit files in there?
[17:27] <linux_guy> tomek, i changed my boot priority and everything
[17:27] <f4nt> lawndart: which file in particular?
[17:27] <lawndart> kismet.conf
[17:27] <johan12> is there a way to reset the color-balance in totem? when i pressed "reset to standard" it messed up myc colors when playing video
[17:27] <tomek> linux_guy, i think i know
[17:28] <quentin> hi all.
[17:28] <konradee> jpedroza -> then put an entry,  man iwconfig or man interfaces to see how the entry should look like
[17:28]  * linux_guy is excited for the answer
[17:28] <tomek> linux_guy, few days ago i was installing ubuntu ,so before i downloaded ubuntu,
[17:28] <Jeruvy> !who | lawndart
[17:29] <Morclye> This might be a stupid question but is it safe to write on NTFS partition?
[17:29] <tomek> but then appeared error ' wrong ......... boot:'
[17:29] <TimothyA> Morclye; that was the question several years ago
[17:29] <f4nt> lawndart: trying to replicate now..
[17:29] <TimothyA> and the answer is "Yes, but it's your own damn fault if it screws up"
[17:29] <Stefano> HI everyone. I receive the error "Enter password for default keyrings to unlock" every time I try to download mail from Evolution on 8.10 and 8.04 Hardy
[17:29] <tgpraveen> SingAlong: I experience the exact same prob
[17:29] <TimothyA> so it's better not to do, as it's a microsoft product :3
[17:29] <tenang> grrr fine how do i change my resolution again?
[17:29] <tgpraveen> if anyone has a soln please share
[17:29] <Stefano> How can I solve?
[17:30] <Jeruvy> Stefano: enter the password
[17:30] <linux_guy> tomek, so what should I do to correct?
[17:30] <tomek> ->priv
[17:30] <Stefano> yes, but I have to insert the password I had when I configured Evolution
[17:30] <f4nt> lawndart: Is this the command you're using: gksudo gedit /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[17:30] <guntur_roxx> Jeruvy : how can i enter such commands if I can't even get to the ubuntu?? Coz after the ubuntu's boot loaded, the screen goes blank n white.. n i can't do anything
[17:30] <tomek> linux_guy,  i think that you have wrong iso
[17:31] <mib_cowvyn0k> buona sera
[17:31] <FilteredMojo> Stefano, I have the same problem
[17:31] <Stefano> when I change password I don't have to insert the new password but always the one I had when I configured Evolution
[17:31] <lawndart> !f4nt, yes.
[17:31] <Morclye> TimothyA: Thank you
[17:31] <Jeruvy> guntur_roxx: check the document to ensure your hardware is supported.  Then before you install, do a 'check CD' to ensure the iso burned correctly.
[17:31] <eddy> okey
[17:31] <austin_> erm anyone have a link for4 the leopard OSX theme becuase the ones im downloading arent working
[17:31] <eddy> how do you work this
[17:31] <f4nt> lawndart: Not empty on my end. To be safe can you do: sudo cat /etc/kismet/kismet.conf
[17:31] <eddy> like this whole thing
[17:32] <eddy> what is this
[17:32] <Stefano> In "Password and Encryption Settings" I disabled "Ask me before using a cached passphrase"
[17:32] <eddy> tell me please
[17:32] <eddy> what is this
[17:32] <Stefano> when I restart my session the problem started again
[17:32] <eddy> ?
[17:32] <eddy> omg
[17:32] <eddy> wtf
[17:32] <eddy> is this
[17:32] <FloodBot1> eddy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:32] <Stefano> FilteredMojo, have you tried something?
[17:32] <guntur_roxx> Jeruvy : the hardware is not supported.. the video card.. my video card is ATI Radeon HD 4850.. n how can I solve this problem?
[17:32] <f4nt> lawndart: if that command yields nothing, i.e. blank.. the file likely is blank somehow.
[17:32] <lawndart> thanks, let me try that...
[17:33] <sholsinger> Does anyone have any idea why upgrading my RAM would cause my X.org to stop functioning properly? I had nvidia binary driver with dual head set up and everything was working fine. I shut down to install 4x2GB RAM modules and now I can't get dual head to work again. Unfortunately I didn't back up the working config file, either.
[17:33] <Jeruvy> Stefano: that means that every time you have to enter a password, rather than caching it for each time.  See password recovery if you've lost the password.
[17:33] <Jeruvy> guntur_roxx: use supported hardware :)
[17:34] <konradee> sholsinger -> should still be same eh? did you modify it after adding those memories?
[17:34] <FilteredMojo> I found a link that might help, but haven't tried it yet here: http://www.go-evolution.org/FAQ#How_can_I_reset_my_Master_Password_.28NSS_User_Private_Key.29.3F
[17:34] <Jeruvy> guntur_roxx: otherwise, check on launchpad.net for any bugs relating to your card, see if there are any solutions available
[17:34] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I don't have lost my password, but I would use the new password, not the one I set 3 months ago...
[17:34] <guntur_roxx> Jeruvy : gosh..is there another option for me?
[17:35] <Jeruvy> Stefano: hmm well passwords either work or they don't.  I'm not sure if I understand what your saying.
[17:35] <sholsinger> konradee: _I_ didn't. But after seeing that neither monitor would work, I booted into recovery mode to see what happened to my xorg.conf and I saw the option to "xfix" so, I chose that. And... Now I can get one monitor working with the nv driver, at least.
[17:35] <guntur_roxx> Jeruvy : I just asked at #xubuntu n someone said to me that i have to try with safe graphics mode when i want to install
[17:36] <guntur_roxx> Jeruvy : how can i do that?
[17:36] <Stefano> Jeruvy, sorry, I'll try to explain. I set Evolution using password1 then changed password in password2. Every time I try to download mail in Evolution it asks me password and it only works if I insert password1
[17:37] <FilteredMojo> stefano: just tried the instructions on that link, it didn't work
[17:37] <f4nt> sholsinger: does that app 'nvidia-settings' recognize the dual monitors?
[17:37] <Vdub> Can anyone help me with a remote desktop issue? (related to resolution)
[17:37] <nvrpunk> how do I make the file system writable in Maintanence mode?
[17:37] <Stefano> this is very bad because I have another PC where I don't know password1, but only password2
[17:38] <Jeruvy> guntur_roxx: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions
[17:38] <f4nt> lawndart: any luck? I have an untouched kismet.conf if you need it.
[17:38] <Stefano> FilteredMojo, thank u for the link, I'll read now
[17:38] <Morclye> I'm trying to format 13 Gb unused space on my HDD to test NTFS usage between XP and Ubuntu but since Gparted has NTFS format option greyed out I take it that it's not possible / sensible to format to NTFS in Ubuntu?
[17:38] <Jeruvy> Stefano: so you have gpg/pgp encrypted email you are trying to open?
[17:38] <sholsinger> f4nt: Unfortunately, I cannot get the PC to properly boot with the nvidia driver.
[17:38] <konradee> sholsinger -> oh well, you wont be able to recover the old settings if you had chosen to fix... sorry dont know how to fix that
[17:39] <f4nt> sholsinger: sorry, missed that I think. I've had some odd situation like this with my laptop where it would boot up and just hate my nvidia driver
[17:39] <Jeruvy> Stefano: or are you having trouble with POP/IMAP logging in?
[17:39] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I don't have encrypted email
[17:40] <mib_v4vmukrh> hi
[17:40] <Stefano> Jeruvy, exactly. The problem is with POP mail
[17:40] <sholsinger> f4nt: Well, the PC will boot, but X tries 3 times to initialize the video with my xorg.conf. Then gives the option to use "safe mode" and I choose shutdown. Then it transfers into a low VGA mode, shows the Ubuntu login screen, starts playing the login sound and locks up entirely.
[17:40] <f4nt> sholsinger: If I remember correctly, I nuked my xorg.conf, kicked X, and prayed for good fortune. Thankfully the nVidia gods smiled on me the last time it happened.
[17:40] <Jeruvy> Stefano: I would go to your POP host, and reset the password, then confirm settings in evolution.
[17:41] <sholsinger> f4nt: yeah I think i'll have to do that as well. I'm going to keep my current xorg.conf for backup and start working on a new one. Unfortunately I've been unable to find really good documentation on writing an xorg.conf from scratch.
[17:41] <Stefano> Jeruvy, You mean on my PC where I have problems?
[17:41] <Stefano> Jeruvy, You mean "File->Forget passwords"?
[17:41] <sholsinger> konradee: Thanks for your help. :)
[17:41] <f4nt> sholsinger: I know it's "cheating" but I let the 'nvidia-settings' app write my conf's for me. Just don't have time to fuss with that crap anymore :)
[17:41] <Jeruvy> Stefano: I mean the POP host, where you connect to POP mail.
[17:42] <sholsinger> f4nt: Yeah I did that this last time too, but it epic failed.
[17:42] <epoch> i went to boot up my system and it said SEIG FAIL!
[17:42] <lawndart> Got it to work, thanks to all for the help!
[17:42] <epoch> dont bother helping me
[17:42] <konradee> sholsinger -> you're welcome
[17:42] <vish> Hi, I have a G845 motherboard computer which seems to have resolution problems. It defaulted to xvesa and is giving me a 90 FPS in GLXGEARS. Help.
[17:44] <FilteredMojo> stefano, still here?
[17:44] <sholsinger> f4nt: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41112a66 <--- behold the failed nvidia-xconfig attempt
[17:44] <Stefano> FilteredMojo, Yes
[17:44] <enigma_sawtooth> hi
[17:44] <enigma_sawtooth> is it possible to use the zetabyte file system (zfs) as a partition in ubuntu? and if so, can i use it as a boot partition?
[17:44] <FilteredMojo> i'm giving up on evolution, want to switch to thunderbird with me?
[17:45] <Stefano> FilteredMojo, I've read your link but it didn't solve
[17:45] <Stefano> FilteredMojo, I agree... :-)
[17:45] <rdw200169> FilteredMojo, I've been using thunderbird for years; the only problem i have with it is related to a plugin, the gnupg plugin
[17:45] <Jeruvy> Stefano: keep in mind some ISP's will give you 3 attempts then ban your IP.  So its a good idea to confirm that isn't a problem.
[17:45] <Stefano> FilteredMojo, anyway now I cannot change client because my problem is on a PC of a friend
[17:45] <FilteredMojo> gdw: what is that plugin in for?
[17:45] <mib_detmsx> hi so am installing right now, and in manual selection I selected /dev/sdb4 to be formatted and told it to mount it at / , but it is still saying used: unknown .. is that allright ?
[17:45] <f4nt> sholsinger: want mine?
[17:46] <f4nt> sholsinger: I'm using dual monitors on a laptop, should be similar enough for a starting point.
[17:46] <Stefano> Jeruvy, my problem is not with POP password
[17:46] <miha> hello guys, would anyone know about gspcav driver for webcams,picture is way too dark,  skype forum says http://forum.skype.com/index.php?showtopic=101297&st=260&p=466271&#entry466271  but cant find that on my gspca_spca561 (some logitech quickcam)
[17:46] <FilteredMojo> stefano: that makes it more complicated
[17:46] <Jeruvy> Stefano: sorry, then I don't understand you.
[17:46] <sholsinger> f4nt: Yeah, that'd be great. I could use a reference point.
[17:47] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I have to insert the local password on my PC to let Evolution to work. password1 and password2 I've written before are passwrod on my Linux PC
[17:47] <Jeruvy> Stefano: what password, for what?  how did you perform this?
[17:47] <dougl> when I am using adept - is it typical to get 40 kB/s or can I tweak this up?
[17:47] <spore> jel' zna neko kako da napravim server ?
[17:47] <spore> jel' zna neko kako da napravim server ?
[17:47] <spore> jel' zna neko kako da napravim server ?
[17:47] <FloodBot1> spore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:47] <f4nt> sholsinger: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/mc39200a
[17:48] <mib_detmsx> hey my installer got stuck at 94% ... detecting hardware ...
[17:49] <Stefano> Jeruvy, one month ago I set a password password1 on my Linux host and configured Evolution with POP3. Everything worjed perfeclty. Then I canged password on my Linux PC in password2 and every time I try to download mail with Evolution I have to insert password1 to make it work
[17:49] <orudie> hi, really need help on this, I need to make sure that i have lenny version of libc6 (2.7.18)
[17:49] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I receive the error "Enter password for default keyrings to unlock"
[17:49] <Joker_-_> How do I get rid of the default panel?
[17:49] <Jeruvy> Stefano: " I set a password password1 on my Linux host"   how?  passwd user newpass?
[17:49] <sholsinger> f4nt: Merci! :)
[17:49] <vixus> Anyone know how I can check if hardware acceleration is working?
[17:50] <Stefano> Jeruvy, using System->Administration->Users and Groups
[17:50] <f4nt> sholsinger: Np!
[17:50] <Joker_-_> How do you deactivate gnome panel?
[17:56] <Jeruvy> Stefano: edit -> preferences > then see mail account
[17:57] <lvella> the contents of my Application menu disappeared
[17:57] <Stefano> Jeruvy, you mean Evolution?
[17:57] <lvella> on gnome
[17:57] <lvella> after installing kde
[17:57] <Jeruvy> Stefano: hmm your confusing me again, isn't that what your issue is?
[17:57] <vixus> f4nt, so not openjdk?
[17:57] <lkgfjsa> why does openJDK not work on so MUCH STUfF!?
[17:58] <arooni-mobile> tar -xvf foo.tar /mnt/build/ubuntu/root =>  tar: /mnt/build/ubuntu/root: Not found in archive;  why do i get this error?
[17:58] <__me> Hi
[17:58] <FilteredMojo> Hurray for Thunderbird!!! Goodbye D-Evolution
[17:58] <__me> any good porn site
[17:58] <FilteredMojo> redtube.com
[17:58] <lvella> how can I get back the contents of my menu?
[17:58] <yoyoned> lvella: what happened to them
[17:58] <f4nt> vixus: openjdk is nice because of it's license and all.. But when it comes to performance it leaves a bit to be desired. If the licensing of Sun's JDK doesn't bother you, I'd recommend using it for better performance.
[17:58] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I'm really really sorry but I don't know how to explain in a different way
[17:58] <Stefano> Jeruvy, the problem is in Evolution
[17:59] <lvella> yoyoned, after installing kde
[17:59] <Stefano> Jeruvy, but when I change a password in Ubuntu
[17:59] <Jeruvy> Stefano: ok, lets stay with that :)
[17:59] <usser> arooni-mobile, are u trying to extract or compress?
[17:59] <lkgfjsa> why does openJDK not work on so MUCH STUfF!?
[17:59] <arooni-mobile> usser, extract
[17:59] <yoyoned> lvella: you want the gnome emenu back
[17:59] <vixus> f4nt, yeah ok
[17:59] <vixus> f4nt, I didn't even know openjdk was installed :/
[17:59] <vish> I want to try and get my ubuntu to use my grahics hardware, it is running on xvesa please help.
[17:59] <lvella> the contents of the menu on gnome desappeared
[17:59] <Stefano> Jeruvy, When in Ubuntu I change my password Evolution asks me for the Ubuntu password I inserted when I configured Evolution
[17:59] <usser> arooni-mobile, you sure the archive path is correct? it usually has extension .tar or .tar.gz
[17:59] <f4nt> vixus: it's a default item.
[18:00] <lvella> yoyoned, yeah
[18:00] <lkgfjsa> whos f4ant?
[18:00] <linux_guy> how can i format a usb drive and erase evevrything?
[18:00] <yoyoned> lvella: log out, then log back in to gnome
[18:00] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I think problem is with Ubuntu Keyrings
[18:00] <Jeruvy> Stefano: are you getting an admin password request?
[18:00] <Genderman2> hello i've a problem with grub i think
[18:00] <Genderman2> can anyone help me??
[18:00] <yoyoned> linux_guy: mkfs
[18:00] <lvella> yoyoned, I has been days like this
[18:00] <spore> jel' zna neko kako da napravim server ?
[18:00] <spore> jel' zna neko kako da napravim server ?
[18:00] <spore> jel' zna neko kako da napravim server ?
[18:00] <spore> jel' zna neko kako da napravim server ?
[18:00] <linux_guy> yoyoned, sudo?
[18:01] <Stefano> Jeruvy, the admin password the administrator had when he configured Evolution
[18:01] <yoyoned> ask|Genderman2:
[18:01] <linux_guy> yoyoned, just terminal > mkfs?
[18:01] <yoyoned> linux_guy: no
[18:01] <Genderman2> my GRUB say please wait and error 18
[18:01] <__me> any community for sex related problems
[18:01] <sholsinger> f4nt: Apparently, nvidia has a forum for this kinda stuff. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=14
[18:01] <lvella> yoyoned, restarting the session won't solve the problem
[18:01] <linux_guy> what the hell __me?
[18:01] <Thrae> How does one setup audio? I'm getting no audio, even though lspci shows the card is detected. I see [   24.511627] saa7133[0]/alsa: saa7133[0] at 0xffaef000 irq 10 registered as card -2, but that's a tuner card. (Mythbuntu)
[18:02] <f4nt> sholsinger: when did nvidia start helping people? :)
[18:02] <Jeruvy> Stefano: ok...thats a whole different beast.  From your menu, select Applications -> System Tools _> Root terminal,  tell me if you can open that.
[18:02] <__me> Genderman2:  ohh yeah which gender do u specialize in ///
[18:02] <yoyoned> linux_guy:do you know how linux sees the devidce.  Something like /dev/sdb
[18:02] <sholsinger> f4nt: I know! ;P
[18:02] <Genderman2> Male
[18:02] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I fly! :-)
[18:02] <Genderman2> ^^
[18:02] <bastones> Hi...just migrated from Ubuntu and finally got wireless working....the only problem I have now is that the keyboard sometimes misses out characters as I type such as 'hllo' etc ... I have Ubuntu on a separate partition and I dont have such problems in Windows...?
[18:02] <linux_guy> i guess
[18:02] <Stefano> Jeruvy, just a moment!
[18:02] <lkgfjsa> can anyone pls tell me how to get this sh!$#y openJDK working?
[18:02] <yoyoned> linux_guy: type df -h
[18:02] <vish> Hi, linux_guy use sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n LABEL /dev/sd*. where you can enter any label in LABEL and specify your drive in sd*. To know your drive, use the mount command first.
[18:02] <__me> lol
[18:02] <__me> same sex
[18:02] <__me> game on
[18:02] <Stefano> Jeruvy here I am
[18:02] <f4nt> lkgfjsa: mind telling us what's actually wrong?
[18:03] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I have my terminal alive and kicking!
[18:03] <Stefano> ;-)
[18:03] <linux_guy> yoyoned, my usb drive is /dev/sdb1
[18:03] <Jeruvy> ok now type 'evolution' in the root shell
[18:03] <lkgfjsa> f4nt the damn thing wont load java pages correctly
[18:03] <etech> i just compile something and get this error
[18:03] <nalioth> lkgfjsa: such language doesn't help the situation
[18:03] <etech> /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lfl
[18:03] <f4nt> lkgfjsa: example?
[18:03] <yoyoned> sudo mkfs.vfat -F 32 -n LABEL /dev/sdb1
[18:03] <etech> what do i need?
[18:03] <Sivam> what does $TERM means ? what is the use of VT-100 and others
[18:04] <Jeruvy> Stefano: just make sure evolution loads without complaint, then close it
[18:04] <vish> linux_guy, has that done it? Hey, unmount the drive before issuing that command.
[18:04] <lkgfjsa> all i said was "damn", as in "damn small linux"
[18:04] <linux_guy> vish, ok
[18:04] <yoyoned> lkgfjsa: install the sun jvm
[18:04] <Jack_Sparrow> lkgfjsa Still un-necessary
[18:04] <Stefano> Jeruvy, closed
[18:04] <Zerqent> I am trying to use libapache2-mod-auth-kerb with apache2, it causes apache2 to segfault. Auth basic works perfectly fine, anyone have any clue what could be the cause if this?
[18:04] <Guest37021> hey, does anyone know if the 'Create a USB startup disk' stuff will run from a Live CD?
[18:05] <yoyoned> !java
[18:05] <Jeruvy> Stefano: ok you have some serious user permission issues on that box, way beyond my abilities to troubleshoot without direct access.
[18:05] <lkgfjsa> ok let me give you an example f4nt
[18:05] <lkgfjsa> http://www.notechsoft.com/irc.asp
[18:06] <vixus> f4nt, much better :D
[18:06] <Stefano> Jeruvy, sorry? I have closed Evolution and opened gnome-terminal
[18:06] <devendra> ciao
[18:06] <yoyoned> !java|lkgfjsa
[18:06] <f4nt> lkgfjsa: Your problems will likely be solved with yoyoned's solution:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[18:06] <matisse> http://img84.imageshack.us/my.php?image=brokenupdateuh5.jpg
[18:06] <Stefano> Jeruvy, I don't understand what u suggested me
[18:06] <f4nt> vixus: awesome :D
[18:06] <richee> :D
[18:06] <matisse> I was upgrading my system and also new linux-headers were downloaded, but the grub/menu.lst-config crashed and now I have a shell if I let me show the details of the upgraded...
[18:06] <richee> :P
[18:06] <linux_guy> Hey!  I'm formatted!
[18:06] <richee> :))
[18:06] <richee> >:()
[18:06] <Jack_Sparrow> richee Please dont  do that
[18:06] <kavurt> ekiga failed to connect to my account. how to retry?
[18:07] <linux_guy> Now, how can i make a bootable usb drive with xubuntu?
[18:07] <yoyoned> linux_guy: good
[18:07] <Jeruvy> Stefano:  this time try to start evolution normally and enter your admin password if requested.
[18:07] <yoyoned> linux_guy: unetbootin
[18:07] <vish> linux_guy, do you want a script(GUI) that I wrote to make your formatting easier?
[18:07] <richee> Jack_Sparrow: sorry
[18:07] <Stefano> Jeruvy, done
[18:07] <linux_guy> vish, thanks, that was easy enough though
[18:07] <vixus> f4nt: particle simulation project for class -- very important
[18:07] <Stefano> Jeruvy, now I can download mail with POP
[18:07] <danes> question, what is the default english keymap file? /keymap/???
[18:08] <Morclye> Has anyone used Gparted with NTFSprogs to format NTFS partition?
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[18:08] <Jeruvy> Stefano: Ok, very strange.  but hurrah!
[18:08] <Jack_Sparrow> matisse upgrading from what to what
[18:08] <Stefano> Jeruvy :-)
[18:08] <vish> You can use that script to do it without the command line.
[18:08] <f4nt> vixus: Nice. Hope all goes well with it :)
[18:08] <vixus> alright, cheers guys
[18:08] <linux_guy> where is unetbootin?
[18:08] <Stefano> Jeruvy,  But i'm sure next time I'll start my session I'll have the same problem
[18:08] <linux_guy> i cant find it in the repos
[18:09] <Jack_Sparrow> matisse sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list                tell me the link it gives you
[18:09] <matisse> Jack_Sparrow:  linux-image-2.6.24-23-generic 2.6.24-23.46   to ...48
[18:09] <Jeruvy> Stefano: I would agree with you
[18:09] <Stefano> Jeruvy, it will ask me admin password I set 1 month ago
[18:09] <etech> what is openmp?
[18:09] <danes> question, what is the default english keymap file? /keymap/???
[18:09] <Stefano> Jeruvy, so I have to keep this problem?
[18:09] <bastones> Hi...just migrated from Ubuntu and finally got wireless working....the only problem Ihave now is that the keyboard sometimes misses out characters as I type such as 'hllo' etc ... I have Ubuntu on a separate partition and I dont have such problems in Windows...? Laptop is ADVENT 5611
[18:09] <Jack_Sparrow> matisse That isnt our kernel
[18:09] <matisse> no?
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> matisse what release are you running
[18:10] <yoyoned> Jack_Sparrow: someone was in here a few hours ago wanting to upgrade from 7.04.  Do you know the link to the applicable docs
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yoyoned yes, I have it
[18:10] <matisse> Jack_Sparrow: 7.10
[18:10] <lkgfjsa> f4nt i followed those directions
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> yoyoned deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty main restricted universe multiverse
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-updates main restricted universe multiverse
[18:10] <Jack_Sparrow> deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu feisty-security main restricted universe multiverse
[18:10] <f4nt> bastones: Does this behavior only occur when typing relatively fast, or can you reproduce it with certain keys? Note: Not blaming you for typos, I have a similar issue, and it's not a typo related problem. :)
[18:10] <linux_guy> i need a program to make a usb drive bootable
[18:11] <lkgfjsa> Jack_Sparrow can i ask you something here?
[18:11] <usser> linux_guy, unetbootin
[18:11] <linux_guy> usser, i cant find it in the repos
[18:11] <bastones> Hi f4nt... I'm not entirely sure... but even when creating new tab in FF (CTRL + F) seems to not work once or twice... but it may be related to typing too fast for it to recognise what I type...not sure
[18:11] <Jack_Sparrow> matisse Ok,  I was not reading it correctly..  see the info on feisty repos
[18:12] <matisse> Jack_Sparrow: for starting your posted command I have to kill the update
[18:12] <usser> linux_guy, its not, you'll have to download it, theres a deb package installs easily to with sudo dpkg -i unetbootin*.deb
[18:12] <f4nt> bastones: Ever try with an external keyboard by chance?
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> lkgfjsa As long as it is support related.. yes
[18:12] <Jeruvy> Stefano: you may want to look at fixing the user permissions http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=211761
[18:12] <linux_guy> is that method known as CLI?
[18:12] <vish> linux_guy, try finding it in packages.ubuntu.com
[18:12] <Boomking> Question : what is Apic , and does it make a difference if its off ??
[18:12] <Jack_Sparrow> matisse dont worry about that command, finish what you started
[18:12] <sholsinger> Is there any way to get to runlevel 3 without being thrust into X ?
[18:13] <Stefano> Jeruvy, ok thank you so much. I'll try it! Thank you very very very much!
[18:13] <f4nt> bastones: I've determined that my Acer's keyboard is just utter crap personally. If I start wailing away on it, keystrokes get missed, but a decent keyboard externally never reproduces the issue.
[18:13] <yoyoned> sholsinger: every time you reboot?
[18:13] <Jeruvy> Stefano: cheers
[18:13] <usser> linux_guy, ah they created a universal installer instead of providing packages for each distribution here: http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=222386
[18:13] <storrgie> help, I am getting an error with synaptics:
[18:13] <storrgie> E: Error occurred while processing libatspi1.0-0 (NewVersion1)
[18:14] <matisse> Jack_Sparrow: finishing isnt possible...
[18:14] <Elvanor> I am trying sudo cat /etc/input/mice but nothing is shown why?
[18:14] <sholsinger> yoyoned: Negative, to install the nvidia drivers, the installation instructions say to get to runlevel 3 so that a certain service is running. But when I do a telinit 3, I am sent to an ubuntu graphical login screen, not a terminal session.
[18:14] <Elvanor> Does the console disables binary output or whatever?
[18:14] <Jack_Sparrow> matisse you are in fiesty and need to upgrade right
[18:14] <bastones> f4nt yes but I have no such problems I have in Ubuntu in Windows ... is there some settings that need to be changed or?
[18:15] <linux_guy> usser, what do i open that with?
[18:15] <spore> hi
[18:15] <yoyoned> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:15] <linux_guy> i think its a .bin
[18:15] <f4nt> bastones: I'll do some searching, see what I can find.
[18:15] <bastones> thank you
[18:15] <vish> Any one have solution to my problem?
[18:15] <usser> linux_guy, just open the terminal type chmod +x unetbootin* and ./unetbootin-linux-310
[18:16] <usser> linux_guy, from the directory where u saved it to
[18:16] <TuxMan1> hi
[18:16] <Jack_Sparrow> lkgfjsa I always wonder what people are doing when they encrypt system files
[18:16] <vish> yoyoned, that way of gdm doesnt work, I think it is beause of bulletproof x or something.
[18:16]  * esworp gets  in line...
[18:16] <TuxMan1> any suggestion for a simple image editor software??? (gimp != simple)
[18:16] <Jeruvy> Jack_Sparrow: breaking stuff would be my guess :)
[18:16] <f4nt> bastones: this doesn't occur after hibernation or anything right? Just always happens?
[18:17] <the_dark_warrio> I told Ubuntu to remove some kde applications and Ubuntu removed a plethora of applications, such as vlc, devede and vim-full... why is that??
[18:17] <mohsen> hi
[18:17] <bastones> yes always happens .. no set time ... I'#ve even tried rebooting but problem still occurs
[18:17] <storrgie> is there a place that I can put some text for someone to look at?
[18:17] <f4nt> bastones: thx
[18:17] <mohsen> i like to chat with any body
[18:17] <lkgfjsa> Jack_Sparrow, who do i go to to make a complaint about you?
[18:17] <rdw200169> TuxMan1, f-spot can do a *little* bit
[18:17] <esworp> so..  i've noticed synaptic only lists sunbird 8.foo..  but to sync (2way) with google calendar, the plugin needs version 9.   why would synaptic not list 9?
[18:17] <usser> !pastebin | storrgie
[18:18] <Jack_Sparrow> lkgfjsa /join #Ubuntu-ops
[18:18] <linux_guy> usser, the "and" confused my system
[18:18] <storrgie> help! http://pastebin.com/m523b36ab
[18:18] <yoyoned> sholsinger: vish: log out, crtl-alt-F2 to get a virtual terminal, log in to terminal, then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[18:18] <knut> on my eee pc 1000h with installed ubuntu 8.10, my wlan does not work. how can i solve that?
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Please /join we are waiting to hear you lkgfjsa
[18:19] <usser> linux_guy, yea thats two separate commands, enter first then second commands separately
[18:19] <rdw200169> what did you do Jack_Sparrow? ;)
[18:19] <linux_guy> usser, they are both chmod +x
[18:19] <linux_guy> ?
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> :)
[18:19] <matisse> Jack_Sparrow: typing 'exit' did help
[18:20] <storrgie> help! http://pastebin.com/m523b36ab
[18:20] <usser> linux_guy, this one chmod +x unetbootin* && ./unetbootin-linux-310
[18:20] <sholsinger> yoyoned: thanks.
[18:20] <vish> yoyoned, do you know how I can force my computer to use graphics acceleration?
[18:20] <usser> linux_guy, thats one command you can paste it as is
[18:20]  * linux_guy is a moron
[18:20] <Jeruvy> storrgie: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202619
[18:21] <storrgie> Jeruvy: tried that, but i cant get synaptics to work at all
[18:21] <Mazingaz78> hi, for kde4.2, update for normal repo or add other repo?
[18:21] <Jeruvy> storrgie: sorry there are open bugs in launchpad regarding that.  All I know
[18:21] <spore> #krstarica
[18:21] <spore> #krstarica
[18:21] <spore> #krstarica
[18:21] <linux_guy> usser, now its telling me to install 7z
[18:21] <FloodBot1> spore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:21] <storrgie> Jeruvy: well im gonna reformat i guess. cause i need synaptics working... what a bunch of shit.
[18:22] <f4nt> bastones: other than finding other people with the same problem I haven't had any real luck.
[18:22] <Jeruvy> storrgie: are you trying to upgrade from 7.04?
[18:22] <bastones> do you think a reinstall would do any good?
[18:22] <SingAlong> my hcid.conf file is blank how do I get this right?
[18:22] <spore> #krstarica
[18:22] <spore> #krstarica
[18:22] <spore> #krstarica
[18:22] <FloodBot1> spore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:22] <storrgie> Jeruvy: im on a fresh install of 8.10, last night i pulled down wireshark and when i woke up this morning i noticed this little problem
[18:22] <yoyoned> vish: the restricted drivers manager doesn't work?
[18:23] <f4nt> bastones: I've gone through a variety of reinstallations for unrelated reasons.. No luck on my end so far.
[18:23] <usser> linux_guy, go ahead and install it sudo apt-get install p7zip-full
[18:23] <f4nt> bastones: I would assume there's some form of sensitivity to be adjusted but I'm not sure where/what. I always chalked it up to a crappy buffer on the laptop keyboard.
[18:23] <bastones> hmm ... I'm not sure if its a compatibility problem with Ubuntu ...
[18:23] <MTecknology> I just bought an external usb storage device (picture frame) but I don't know how to get pictures on it. It's not auto mounting or showing up in thunar.
[18:23] <vish> yoyoned, the restricted drivers manager shows no drivers in use. Any way, it is a simple computer with inbuit inte graphics.
[18:23] <Jeruvy> storrgie: you built wireshark?  Did you verify the sources?
[18:23] <linux_guy> usser, im sorry you have to walk me through this, i should be better at this by now
[18:24] <bastones> this laptop is quite new so I dont think its a problem with my keyboard...
[18:24] <storrgie> Jeruvy: i installed from synaptics
[18:24] <usser> linux_guy, its alright
[18:24] <usser> linux_guy, did u install 7zip?
[18:24] <lvella> all the contents of the Applications
[18:24] <yoyoned> MTecknology: lsusb
[18:24] <Jeruvy> storrgie: ah ok..which package did you install (for the record...)
[18:24] <vish> yoyoned, In screen resolutions, it shows that i have 0 Hz Frequency.
[18:24] <linux_guy> synaptic is having isssues
[18:24] <MTecknology> yoyoned: Bus 004 Device 005: ID 1403:0001 Sitronix Digital Photo Frame
[18:24] <raxial> hey all
[18:24] <spore> join #krstarica
[18:24] <spore> join #krstarica
[18:24] <yoyoned> vish: sorry, i don't know
[18:24] <FloodBot1> spore: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:24] <storrgie> Jeruvy: i actually grabbed it from the add/remove in a hurry instead of using the actual synapics interface... so i didnt see all the info
[18:24] <Tropnevad> hey
[18:25] <usser> linux_guy, oh.
[18:25] <bastones> I thought at first it was because of background programs or something
[18:25] <f4nt> bastones: Did you try messing with your keyboard preferences btw?
[18:25] <Jeruvy> storrgie: try removing it.
[18:25] <bastones> no not when it first started
[18:25] <miha> vish: i have custom modlines for old iiyama so i have '56hz' in ubuntu configuration for 85 or 100 mhz version
[18:25] <miha> vish: bug bug bug:)
[18:25] <lvella> All the content of the "Applications" menu in gnome is gone after installing kde4. How can I get it back?
[18:25] <yoyoned> MTecknology: sudo cat /var/log/messages and look for that device.  You looking for something like /dev/sdb1
[18:25] <Elvanor> I am trying sudo cat /etc/input/mice but nothing is shown why?
[18:25] <vish> miha, but atleast you have a graphics accelerated driver?
[18:26] <Elvanor> when I move the mouse oc
[18:26] <miha> vish: i do
[18:26] <miha> vish: i first installed nvidia driver, then configured  modes
[18:26] <vish> miha,  Thats what I dont have.
[18:26] <mohsen_> can i chat with a woman
[18:26] <tul_> No Volume control GStreamer plugins and/or devices found.
[18:26] <tul_> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=948308
[18:27] <tul_> sorry http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=2797d130c420db160a5ff80dd6367b18ef985e6c
[18:27] <dmsuperman> I'm trying to get a DNS server running, bind9, and it's ignoring queries: Jan 31 18:18:26 li58-39 named[8501]: client 64.22.124.79#60899: query (cache) 'yahoo.com/A/IN' denied
[18:27] <linux_guy> usser, sweet, i got unetbootin
[18:27] <yoyoned> lvella: right click on menu button and edit
[18:27] <f4nt> bastones: On a limb you could probably adjust the accessibility options of the keyboard presses to hack things to a working state. I know that's hardly a "solution" though. Sorry I couldn't be of more help.
[18:27] <miha> vish: http://albertomilone.com/nvidia_scripts1.html
[18:27] <MTecknology> yoyoned: last thing in there is from Jan 12
[18:27] <vish> Does G845 Motherboard have a history of such issues under ubuntu?
[18:27] <vigo> moshen: this is Ubuntu-Help channel
[18:27]  * linux_guy dances happily
[18:27] <miha> vish: this is some automated script that seems to work
[18:27] <miha> if default doesnt
[18:27] <bastones> no problem f4nt thanks for your help anyway ... I'll try by reinstalling Ubuntu first right now ...
[18:27] <vish> miha, I dont have a nvidia card.
[18:28] <miha> vish: or ati?
[18:28] <miha> :)
[18:28] <MTecknology> yoyoned: there we go
[18:28] <usser> linux_guy, great, its really easy to use too, select the distro you want to boot from usb and its going to download the iso or select the iso on your local harddrive or tell it to cdrom if you have a disk with the distro u want to usb boot
[18:28] <MTecknology> Jan 31 12:27:53 panther kernel: [ 3091.683150]  sdb: unknown partition table
[18:28] <miha> vish: you have intel graphics?
[18:28] <MTecknology> yoyoned: does that mean - not so good?
[18:28] <vish> miha, not that too. We are talking about a simple intel card.
[18:29] <lvella> yoyoned, there I can see all the categories that used to be there
[18:29] <lvella> yoyoned, but they arem empty too
[18:29] <The_Rebel> how do i change root's cursor/theme?
[18:29] <MTecknology> yoyoned: by that error and considering there's preloaded images, is it possible I'm looking at needing to use Windows to install the software to handle the images?
[18:30] <cloakey> Hi folks.
[18:30] <vigo> Is upgrading from Software Sources suggested? Currently on 8.04.2 Hardy.
[18:30] <linux_guy> hmm what is the desktop directory?  like /etc/Desktop?
[18:30] <usser> linux_guy, ~/Desktop
[18:30] <cloakey> I've been wondering; is there a way to set proxy settings completely at the network level.  So that nothing ever bypasses proxy settigns?
[18:30] <Jeruvy> The_Rebel: partial answer, .bash_aliases
[18:30] <miha> vish: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3416144&postcount=15 ?
[18:31] <cloakey> And I'm referring to absolute certainty.  Even if a program decides to reinvent sockets, it cannot possibly bypass the proxy used.
[18:31] <AR> nice channle :)
[18:31] <linux_guy>  i cant seem to browse to the iso
[18:31] <dmsuperman> I'm trying to get a DNS server running, bind9, and it's ignoring queries: Jan 31 18:18:26 li58-39 named[8501]: client 64.22.124.79#60899: query (cache) 'yahoo.com/A/IN' denied
[18:31] <Breetai> Hey all, what is a good cam that I can buy that works with Linux?
[18:31] <miha> vish: it's old though
[18:31] <isleshocky77> Has anyone have any ideas how to successfully import contacts from Kontacts std.vcf file into the Evolution?  I lose all my addresses when I use the import tool.
[18:31] <danes> where can i find the path for keymaps on ubuntu?
[18:31] <SingAlong> anybody knows how to fix a hcid.conf file? I have a blank one
[18:32] <lkgfjsa> does anyone know how to get openJDK to actually *work*?
[18:32] <vish> miha, thats not the problem. It started without graphic effects from the start.
[18:32] <Elvanor> How can I cat my keyboard events?
[18:32] <linux_guy> im in /root/Desktop
[18:32] <Elvanor> My problem is the following, all my multimedia keys work when I boot the Ubuntu LiveCD, but two of them dont in Gentoo
[18:32] <usser> linux_guy, where is your iso?
[18:32] <linux_guy> on my desktop
[18:32] <Elvanor> I would like to track what's making them work in Ubuntu
[18:33] <linux_guy> terminal > cd Desktop
[18:33] <usser> linux_guy, its in /home/$USER/Desktop then
[18:33] <Jeruvy> isleshocky77: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45030
[18:33] <Ddorda> where can i find ubuntu 9.04 timeline?
[18:33] <miha> vish: i give up:)
[18:33] <zash> Elvanor: xmodmap maybe
[18:33] <MTecknology> yoyoned: This is what I've found so far - http://picframe.spritesserver.nl/wiki/index.php/DigiView_K11
[18:33] <vigo> Should I upgrade to 8.10 from Software Sources or lay-over install/update from CD?
[18:33] <vish> miha, Thanks anyway.
[18:33] <linux_guy> Windows 7.iso???? I think NOT!  hmphh
[18:33] <Jeruvy> !jaunty | Ddorda
[18:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Ddorda 2009  month 4
[18:33] <Elvanor> zash: how do I check the events from the kernel
[18:33] <miha> linux_guy: windows 7 is public beta, isnt it?
[18:34] <Elvanor> In Gentoo I can just do a cat /dev/input/event3
[18:34] <locainex> hello, i was wondering if anyone else had wine as an available update, but cant gtet it to download
[18:34] <holyguyver> using Gparted how do I unlock the sections of partitions that are locked?
[18:34] <linux_guy> yeah
[18:34] <MTecknology> vigo: I'd suggest upgrading with apt
[18:34] <linux_guy> i downloaded it this am
[18:34] <zash> Elvanor: run xev in a terminal, check if X knows about your mm-keys
[18:34] <Thrae> How do I go about debugging audio? I think MythTV / MPlayer may be using my Tuner card as the primary audio device.
[18:34] <linux_guy> i'll install to vmware
[18:34] <linux_guy> and try it
[18:34] <vigo> Thank you
[18:34] <Jack_Sparrow> holyguyver umount them
[18:34] <linux_guy> but its still insecure microsoft junk
[18:34] <holyguyver> Jack Sparrow they are unmounted
[18:34] <Elvanor> zash: X I already checked. X recognizes them.
[18:34] <usser> linux_guy, try virtualbox
[18:34] <holyguyver> Jack_Sparrow they are unmounted
[18:35] <dtolj> How to ssh as root user to Ubuntu server? it gives me permission denied, it works fine as non-root however.
[18:35] <usser> linux_guy, it has 3d support
[18:35] <Elvanor> Now I want to see if they are coming from the keyboard or ACPI
[18:35] <linux_guy> usser, i had trouble with it
[18:35] <locainex> anyone elses having issues with downloading the wine update?
[18:35] <tsrk> how can I see the load on my server in the command line?
[18:35] <linux_guy> but my vmware has a really slow mouse is that normal?
[18:35] <zash> Elvanor: then you just need to map them to someting useful
[18:35] <usser> linux_guy, which version did u use? they fixed a lot of stuff
[18:35] <Blatz> Hello, how do I find out which device is mounted?  I tried mounting "sda1" as usual, but after removing a hard drive, and having to reset the jumpers on reinstallation. sda1 is now the master drive, or boot drive.   I auto mounted the drive through the GUI, but I how can I tell which device it is (hda, sda1...etc)
[18:35] <holyguyver> Jack_Sparrow I already had them unmounted before I came in here.
[18:35] <Elvanor> zash: this is on Ubuntu. On gentoo X do not get them.
[18:35] <linux_guy> usser, the newest one
[18:35] <Elvanor> But I want to know what is the source on Ubuntu
[18:35] <Elvanor> keyboard, or ACPI
[18:35] <usser> dtolj, theres no root user in ubuntu. hence permission denied error, whats wrong with ssh'ing as normal user and then using sudo?
[18:36] <MTecknology> yoyoned: you run off?
[18:36] <Elvanor> so that I can debug further
[18:36] <AR> Blatz: try in terminal : mount
[18:36] <usser> linux_guy, hm, its been a smooth ride for me. oh well
[18:36] <sandGorgon> guys... what do you think is the best virtualization software that i can run on Intrepid? i need to install linux distros using ISOs
[18:36] <Thrae> dtolj: You'd have to allow root access to ssh, but that's a bad idea. You should use sudo on commands instead to run them as root. If you really need to become root in Ubuntu, do "sudo su -", but you never should need to use this.
[18:36] <mib_e7zkh1> ubuntu is sux
[18:36] <Blatz> ﻿AR, ok
[18:36] <mib_e7zkh1> i think
[18:36] <locainex> Blatz: df
[18:36] <holyguyver> So Jack_Sparrow , how do I get them unlocked?
[18:36] <bazhang> mib_e7zkh1, wrong channel then
[18:36] <usser> Thrae, sudo su is not recommended as well sudo -i is the proper way
[18:36] <mib_e7zkh1> ah ok
[18:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Thrae not sudo su                     use sudo -i
[18:36] <vish> How do I ssh into my friends computer for fixing stuff?
[18:37] <linux_guy> i wonder if something is wrong with my usb drive
[18:37] <linux_guy> unetbootin has extracted 7 of 160 files
[18:37] <linux_guy> and stuck
[18:37] <locainex> vish if you dont know how, i doubt you should be doing that
[18:37] <holyguyver> Alright I shall havve to re-open the question to anyone again.
[18:37] <Blatz> ﻿AR, great that was easier than I thought it would be.  I see the device I want it sdb1 now, thanks
[18:37] <Thrae> Sorry, it's been a while since I did sudo su -. I normally just use sudo.
[18:37] <mib_e7zkh1> my friend said: windows 7 it's the best, ubuntu sux
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> holyguyver Not sure of all the issues, and I need to run off for a few
[18:37] <usser> linux_guy, it may appear stuck, its actually working
[18:37] <AR> Blatz: nice job:) you're welcome
[18:37] <bazhang> mib_e7zkh1, please chat in another channel
[18:37] <perillux> I'm using an old laptop, but when I play videos using a video player they play just fine.  However if I play a video from youtube for example it is kind of slow.  Is there anything I can do to speed it up?  It seems to me that if I can play the video fine in vlc why shouldn't I be able to play it just as good on the flash player in youtube?
[18:37] <linux_guy> i'm just not patient am i?
[18:37] <mib_e7zkh1> no please
[18:37] <holyguyver> Alright Jack_Sparrow have a nice day
[18:37] <linux_guy> now its done
[18:37] <Jack_Sparrow> mib_e7zkh1 Please only ask ubuntu related support questions and avoid starting a flame war
[18:38] <locainex> last call, anyone else issues with new wine update?
[18:38] <usser> mib_e7zkh1, take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:38]  * linux_guy is again.... a moron
[18:38] <rdw200169> sandGorgon, Virtual Box works very well
[18:38] <locainex> updater cant download it
[18:38] <momomo> sandGorgon: vbox from upstream could be a good way. or vmware if you are heading more into ultrastable
[18:38] <dtolj> Thrae: usser actually i am using sshfs root@host and need to mount my remote dir as root cant use sudo su
[18:38] <mib_e7zkh1> ah ok thanks
[18:38] <vish> locainex, Is it possible? I heard only commputers with public IP addr can be sshd into.
[18:38] <mib_e7zkh1> yes
[18:38] <mib_e7zkh1> ok
[18:38] <holyguyver> So does anyone know how I can unlock the group of partitions in Gparted that are unmounted but still locked?
[18:38] <_seantater2> Do the broadcom drivers have any reputation for packet loss? I have excellent signal, but I'm still getting 70% packet loss..
[18:38] <linux_guy> "If you had a $70 gift card to dell that expired tomorrow, what would you buy?"
[18:38] <usser> dtolj, ah i see. hang on
[18:38] <locainex> vish, the port has to be open to allow ssh
[18:38] <Thrae> dtolj: Why do you need to do this? It sounds like your implementation is wrong.
[18:38] <locainex> and they must have ssh server installed
[18:38] <vish> locainex, meaning?
[18:38] <SingAlong> has anybody tried connecting your phone to PC thru Bluetooth? (Phone->PC)
[18:39] <momomo> locainex: food for africa ;-)
[18:39] <Scunizi> linux_guy: their mp3 player if it's still available
[18:39] <sandGorgon> momomo: does vbox support usb connections - i remember that i cudnt get it working earlier
[18:39] <raxial> linux_guy:  sdhc card....highest capacity....highest rating that 60 bux would get me :)
[18:39] <Scunizi> sandGorgon: only if you get vbox directly from them..
[18:39] <locainex> vish, meaning you cant get on their computer without their permission.
[18:39] <linux_guy> i helped my fiances mom with her computer, and she's givin me a gift card, but it expires tomorrow
[18:39] <dtolj> Thrae: usser no it not wrong, all i want is root access over ssh
[18:39] <momomo> sandGorgon: upstream closed source does, open not yet afaik
[18:39] <rdw200169> sandGorgon, yes, it will, but you have to make some permissions related changes *if my memory serves me right*
[18:39] <rdw200169> sandGorgon, there's a howto on getting in working right in the ubuntu wiki
[18:39] <Blatz> ﻿locainex, I'll remember the df command for future too, thanks
[18:39] <martin__> How to solve this problem?My ubuntu can play sound when I entered into system. But when I play sound files,such as wav or mp3, it played but no sound.
[18:39] <Elvanor> I dont understand how cat /dev/input/mice works fine if I am on the console, but fails if I am in a xterm in X
[18:39] <locainex> np Blatz
[18:39] <holyguyver> It is not a locked partition it is a locked extended partition full of several partitions all unmounted.
[18:40] <Elvanor> eg, nothing appears
[18:40] <usser> dtolj, right so first things firs you have to tell sshd to allow root access, edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[18:40] <Elvanor> How is that even possible
[18:40] <Thrae> dtolj: I mean, *why* do you need it. Unless you're debugging or developing something, you shouldn't be logged in as root, hence I asked...
[18:40] <usser> dtolj, find a line that say allowRoot and set it to yes
[18:40] <SingAlong> has anybody tried connecting your phone and PC via bluetooth? Did you get it working?
[18:40] <rdw200169> sandGorgon, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox
[18:40] <momomo> rdw200169: just a question, the open source version still hasn't the usb code inside?
[18:40] <linux_guy> gotta reboot thanks everyone
[18:41] <vish> locainex, no I have permission. I have the username and password of his computer, I also can ask him via IM to accept anything. I want to know if this is possible at all, seeing as we are normal internet users.
[18:41] <linux_guy> usser, thanks dude
[18:41] <Scunizi> momomo: nope
[18:41] <rdw200169> momomo, yes, i run the SVN version, but all of them support USB
[18:41] <usser> dtolj, follow this guide to enable root account system-wide http://www.debianadmin.com/enable-and-disable-ubuntu-root-password.html
[18:41] <SingAlong> has anybody tried connecting your phone and PC via bluetooth? Did you get it working?
[18:41] <frokensen> i'm on windows 7, how to install ubuntu?
[18:41] <rdw200169> momomo, VirtualPC, the hack of virtualBox windows bought does not, but the *normal* virtual box definitely does
[18:41] <usser> dtolj, although i must once again say its not recommended,
[18:41] <bazhang> frokensen, dual boot or in a vm?
[18:41] <SingAlong> frokensen: pop-in an ubuntu CD
[18:41] <rdw200169> momomo, i.e. the free version ;)
[18:41] <Scunizi> rdw200169: momomo but not the ose version in the repos
[18:42] <SingAlong> has anybody tried connecting your phone and PC via bluetooth? Did you get it working?
[18:42] <rdw200169> Scunizi, really? i didn't know that!
[18:42] <usser> dtolj, after u done all that do sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart to reload ssh server
[18:42] <SingAlong> has anybody tried connecting your phone and Ubuntu PC via bluetooth? Did you get it working?
[18:42] <frokensen> i've image, and the startup it's denied by windows 7, why?
[18:42] <usser> SingAlong, yea works fine
[18:42] <Jeruvy> frokensen: I would not dual boot with a time-limited OS
[18:42] <Scunizi> rdw200169: yep.. that's the drawback of the ose version .. it's good for everything except usb..
[18:42] <Mike_92> I am trying to run a .exe file in WINE but when I do I get an error stating: "Component 'flash9e.ocx' or one of its dependencies is not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid". How can I fix this?
[18:42] <ikonia> SingAlong: my nokia is connected via bluetooth fine, and managed via gnokii
[18:42] <rdw200169> Scunizi, momomo heh, i've *always* used the svn version, so shame on me for suggesting otherwise!
[18:42] <bazhang> frokensen, what image do you speak of?
[18:42] <martin__> How to solve this problem?My ubuntu can play sound when I entered into system. But when I play sound files,such as wav or mp3, it played but no sound.
[18:43] <frokensen> the last release desktop
[18:43] <Thrae> I am also having sound configuration problems like martin__.
[18:43] <SingAlong> ikonia: I detected my ubuntu PC using my nokia. but the connection seems to be a problem
[18:43] <ikonia> martin__: have you installed the sound codecs in the ubuntu "new use" instructions
[18:43] <ikonia> SingAlong: define a problem ?
[18:43] <MTecknology> yoyoned: there we go - it's a proprietary fs that I need to use windows for.... If it weren't a gift for someone else, I'd take it back....
[18:43] <frokensen> i'm not in a time-limited edition of windows 7
[18:43] <bazhang> frokensen, you burned the iso to cd?
[18:43] <sandGorgon> rdw200169: what about qemu instead ?
[18:43] <momomo> rdw200169: sounds strange to me though that the ose-tar doesnt include the usb-code whilst the svn does
[18:43] <vish> martin__, install gstreamer packages via synaptic.
[18:43] <martin__> I updated from 8.10 to 9.04...
[18:43] <frokensen> yes, but the autorun it's blocked
[18:44] <rdw200169> sandGorgon, i don't know, i've never tried it.
[18:44] <frokensen> reasone: spyware
[18:44] <SingAlong> ikonia: the password box pops up in my phone. I entered 1234. then I get a connection refused error
[18:44] <bazhang> frokensen, you mean wubi?
[18:44] <ikonia> frokensen: why are you telling us about windows ?
[18:44] <usser> martin__, for 9.04 support go to #ubuntu+1
[18:44] <martin__> It work well yesterday.
[18:44] <ikonia> SingAlong: is it possible your machine already has a pairing for it ?
[18:44] <matthias__> Hi
[18:44] <frokensen> why windows 7 mark ubuntu as "spyware" ?
[18:45] <SingAlong> ikonia: no pairing done. I've also authorised my PC on my phone to make unauthorised connections
[18:45] <Jeruvy> !ot | frokensen
[18:45] <martin__> GStreamer has been installed.
[18:45] <_seantater2> I have a bmc43 wireless chipset and Ubuntu worked fine with it, I get great signal strength but it cuts out all the time and when it does work I get 70% packet loss. Any siggestions?
[18:45] <AR> frokensen: how do you boot your ubuntu?
[18:45] <zimbres> why my sound player does not plays when I have opened any youtube video on my brower?
[18:45] <matthias__> win32 is evil
[18:45] <frokensen> from bios
[18:45] <bazhang> frokensen, did you set your bios to boot from the cd first?
[18:45] <ikonia> SingAlong: check your bluetooth config file, see if there is an entry on it
[18:45] <momomo> sandGorgon: i can recommend vbox for home use. it crashes once in a while under heavy network load but its just fine for playing with distros
[18:45] <frokensen> yes
[18:45] <Mike_92> I am trying to run a .exe file in WINE but when I do I get an error stating: "Component 'flash9e.ocx' or one of its dependencies is not correctly registered: a file is missing or invalid". How can I fix this?
[18:45] <SingAlong> ikonia: I got error(54, "connection refused")
[18:45] <bazhang> frokensen, and the cd booted up?
[18:46] <node357> Mike_92, you may have the install the Windows version of Flash to get your app to work
[18:46] <ikonia> SingAlong: /etc/bluetooth/hcid.conf
[18:46] <frokensen> no, windows block him
[18:46] <SingAlong> ikonia: bluetooth config file? u mean /etc/bluetooth/bluetooth.conf?
[18:46] <bonez451> how does one switch to a differernt user nick?
[18:46] <sandGorgon> momomo: alright
[18:46] <rdw200169> Mike_92, chances are you'll be able to find more help in the wine channel
[18:46] <ikonia> bonez451: /nick newnick
[18:46] <bazhang> frokensen, then you need to md5 the iso and reburn the cd at a very low speed
[18:46] <momomo> sandGorgon: you can also anytime grab the closed source version from vbox upstream, #vbox can help you further
[18:46] <ikonia> bonez451: #freenode will provide irc support for you if you want it
[18:46] <bazhang> !md5 > frokensen
[18:46] <rdw200169> Mike_92, #winehq
[18:47] <matthias__> how can i change default media player in gnome ?
[18:47] <SingAlong> ikonia: I did check that hcid.conf file. I found that the default password for bluetooth is 1234. thats why I tried it
[18:47] <frokensen> my cd has successful the checksum md5
[18:47] <ikonia> SingAlong: that shouldn't contain any "passwords" in that
[18:47] <holyguyver> My partition setup is set up so that I have two logical partitions & one extended partition with three partitions inside of it. I want to delete one of the partitions inside of my extended partition which  gparted will let me do, & then I want to shrink my extended partition which gparted will not let me do having the locked sign next to the extended partition. How can I shrink my extended partition?
[18:47] <Mike_92> rdw200169: thanks
[18:47] <ikonia> frokensen: your saying you can't boot your Ubuntu install cD ?
[18:47] <frokensen> i was trying
[18:47] <SingAlong> ikonia. PIN
[18:47] <bonez451> I need to set up ubuntu 8.10 desktop on a machine with an 82815 video subsystem on the mobo.. do I ask how here or in some other room?
[18:47] <SingAlong> ikonia right?
[18:47] <ikonia> SingAlong: it shouldn't have pin in that file
[18:47] <bazhang> frokensen, then boot it up, and then install alongside windows
[18:47] <SingAlong> ikonia: what?
[18:48] <jpedroza> can anyone point me to a wireless PCI card that will work out of the box with Intrepid?
[18:48] <ikonia> SingAlong: unless you set "passkey" option
[18:48] <frokensen> windows 7 block it :(
[18:48] <bazhang> frokensen, that is not right
[18:48] <Jeruvy> holyguyver: remove it.
[18:48] <ikonia> SingAlong: have you set the "passkey" option for the bluetooth "mac" address for your device ?
[18:48] <bazhang> frokensen, windows has nothing to do with the ubuntu installer.
[18:48] <SingAlong> ikonia: shall I pastebin the hcid.conf file?
[18:48] <holyguyver> Jeruvy, what do I do about the partitions inside of it then?
[18:48] <ikonia> frokensen: windows 7 is a beta product - we can't support that here
[18:48] <usser> bonez451, intel video shouldnt require any tinkering they opensourced their drivers and it usually works out of the box
[18:48] <jpedroza> I am tired of trying to get a netgear wg311v3 working with ndiswrapper
[18:48] <ikonia> SingAlong: certainly won't hurt
[18:48] <zimbres> why my sound player does not plays when I have opened any youtube video on my brower?
[18:48] <ikonia> frokensen: ##windows will help you with your windows support issues
[18:49] <miha> zimbres: i saw such question yesterday:)
[18:49] <zimbres> miha, It was not me.
[18:50] <miha> yah
[18:50] <SingAlong> ikonia: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112195/ thats my hcid.conf file
[18:50] <miha> i dont remember seeing any answer either:)
[18:50] <ikonia> SingAlong: lets have a look
[18:50] <ikonia> SingAlong: you don't have a device defined in that file
[18:50] <frokensen> windows 7 it's marking ubuntu as spyware, :( they hurt linux
[18:50] <Jeruvy> holyguyver: I would move them or lose them.  you could try partition magic or something like fips (if I remember correctly)  Try the ubuntu recovery disk there should a slew of tools available there.
[18:50] <zimbres> miha, I think it is an ubuntu problem.
[18:50] <locainex> can someone tell me if wine.budgetdedicated.com is a legitimate url to receive wine updates from? im getting an error downloading the update
[18:50] <locainex> please
[18:50] <bazhang> frokensen, take chat elsewhere please
[18:50] <ikonia> frokensen: windows is not supported here - windows 7 is beta and not supported here - please take it to ##windows
[18:51] <dtolj> usser: When i sudo su it tells me my account has expired but it logs me in as root
[18:51] <AR> frokensen: where did you see they mark your ubuntu as spyware?
[18:51] <martin__> Ubuntu update is too often.
[18:51] <usser> locainex, yes it is, its an official wine repo
[18:51] <SingAlong> ikonia: but when I connect my bluetooth dongle and do "hcitool dev" I get a device as hci0
[18:51] <locainex> tank you usser i will wait for their servers to return then
[18:51] <gp101> can someone help me, just installed ubuntu and none of the usb ports are working (when I plug in any device, it's not powered)
[18:51] <ikonia> SingAlong: if you do a hcitool scan - do you see your phone
[18:51] <usser> dtolj, did u enable root account?
[18:51] <holyguyver> Jeruvy, I can movie them out of the extended partition? & I cannot lose them, they are my Ubuntu system partition.
[18:51] <frokensen> AR: on the installation
[18:51] <usser> dtolj, if so you dont have to use sudo anymore
[18:51] <SingAlong> ikonia: yes!
[18:51] <usser> dtolj, just su should do
[18:52] <SingAlong> ikonia: I see my phone.
[18:52] <ikonia> SingAlong: great, I'll show you an example entry (for my nokia)
[18:52] <gp101> I just installed ubuntu 8.10
[18:52] <gp101> I had a black screen but it was fixed by adding "noapic acpi=off irqpoll" at the end of the boot line before the installation.
[18:52] <gp101> When i plug in any usb, such as, ipod, camera, or flash drive, the icon of it does not appear on my desktop, the device is not powered, and when i type in "lsusb" in the terminal there is no output.
[18:52] <gp101> Can someone please help?
[18:52] <miha> martin__: it's compromise. if you dont update often, you lose cutting edge features, if you do, you lose stability
[18:52] <ikonia> SingAlong: if you use that as a template and replace it with your mac address you should be fine
[18:52] <FloodBot1> gp101: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:52] <Jeruvy> holyguyver: I have no such baggage :)  ubuntu is easy to install, and you should have backed up prior to attempting to resize any partition
[18:52] <usser> locainex, server is up, pings just fine
[18:52] <WIGGMPk> how do you remove old kernels from your /boot partition??
[18:52] <skinofstars1> hey guys, is irc.ubuntu.com working? i have to connect via the freenode server atm
[18:52] <holyguyver> Jeruvy I did indeed backup
[18:52] <usser> dtolj, you also should be able to ssh as root ssh root@host
[18:52] <SingAlong> ikonia: so do you mean I'll have to have an entry in the hcid.conf file? I have a Nokia N70
[18:52] <mgolisch> WIGGMPk: uninstall the old kernel packages using the package manager
[18:53] <kouya1> is there anything like Ccleaner for Ubuntu?
[18:53] <locainex> usser: when i try to update i get the error, failed to fetch
[18:53] <Jeruvy> holyguyver: try the ubuntu recovery disk some handy tools that may work for you.  Glad to hear you backed up :)
[18:53] <ikonia> SingAlong: you don't "have" to - but if you're having problems it's a good way to check it's working
[18:53] <locainex> connection refused
[18:53] <gp101> none of my usb devides get powered, can someone help?  (ubuntu 8.10)
[18:53] <gp101> lsusb produces no output
[18:53] <ikonia> SingAlong: FYI: when you connect to a nokia it should ask you for a key on the phone that you make up - you should then enter that on the PC to match
[18:53] <WIGGMPk> mglisch thats it? there's not command that just eliminates every kernel except the one specified?
[18:53] <ikonia> SingAlong: there is no default - you have to set the key to pair
[18:53] <momomo> gp101: are there relevant erros in dmesg?
[18:53] <SingAlong> ikonia: yeah but it doesnt ask me for any key
[18:54] <ikonia> SingAlong: ahhh I see, so the phone doesn't say "enter key"
[18:54] <SingAlong> ikonia: It asks me for a key only when I try to send some data.
[18:54] <sume> hi everybody
[18:54] <node357> hi sume
[18:54] <dtolj> usser: no i didnt find the line AllowRoot but there was PermitRootLogin which was set to YES
[18:54] <ikonia> SingAlong: you may want to try manually setting it up in the hci config
[18:54] <gp101> momomo, one sec I'll check
[18:54] <sume> I can't get my wireless connection to work after installing intrepid
[18:54] <usser> dtolj, yes thats the one
[18:54] <ikonia> SingAlong: just to see if it can connect ok
[18:54] <ikonia> SingAlong: (not a perm fix - just to debug)
[18:54] <holyguyver> Jeruvy, it seems though that you are not on expert when it comes to partitions, so if you don't mind I am going to re-ask the question & see if someone else has more experiance with partitions.
[18:54] <sume> i've setup ndiswrapper
[18:54] <SingAlong> ikonia: so when I enter a key, it says connection refused. But I didnt do anything on the comp to refuse the connection :D
[18:55] <ikonia> SingAlong: I see what you're saying now
[18:55] <sume> i have the broadcom bc4312 card
[18:55] <bonez46> is this on? can anyone see my typing?
[18:55] <gp101> momomo: no dmesg output when plug in a usb devidec
[18:55] <SingAlong> ikonia: no problem, I'm willing to tinker with any file to get this working :D
[18:55] <ikonia> SingAlong: do you know how to manually enter devices into hci config ?
[18:55] <Jeruvy> holyguyver: no problem.
[18:55] <SingAlong> ikonia: using sudo vi?
[18:55] <node357> bonez46, yeah we can see you typing
[18:55] <gp101> momomo, it works under windows
[18:55] <ikonia> SingAlong: yeah, thats fine
[18:55] <sume> does anyone here know how to fix this?
[18:55] <SingAlong> ikonia: nope! I dont know the syntax etc
[18:56] <ikonia> SingAlong: ok, no problem, let me see if I can find an example (not got one on this laptop - thought I did)
[18:56] <SingAlong> ikonia: is there a particular syntax to be followed?
[18:56] <toader> Hi, under Ubuntu How to test if my microphone works or not?
[18:56] <bonez46> ah, then I guess no one has any ideas on how to get more resolution choices from a system running intel 82815 video, eh?
[18:56] <momomo> gp101: maybe during initial startup of computer?
[18:56] <gp101> momomo: what do you mean?
[18:56] <Thrae> Alright, time to screw up this server
[18:56] <SingAlong> ikonia: I've been at this thing since yesterday. just figured out its an ubuntu problen. I should have come here yesterday
[18:56] <frokensen> windows7 rox, ubuntu sux.. i think
[18:57] <SingAlong> frokensen: thats all for #ubuntu-offtopic
[18:57] <ikonia> SingAlong: just seting up a bluetooth keyboard
[18:57] <ikonia> SingAlong: then you can see an example
[18:57] <holyguyver> My partition setup is set up so that I have two logical partitions & one extended partition with three partitions inside of it. I want to delete one of the partitions inside of my extended partition which  gparted will let me do, & then I want to shrink my extended partition which gparted will not let me do having the locked sign next to the extended partition. How can I shrink my extended partition?
[18:57] <SingAlong> frokensen: oh!
[18:57] <momomo> gp101: as i understand you you checked the dmesg output after plugging in the usb device. dmesg might have logged an error right during power up of the computer already
[18:57] <SingAlong> ikonia: oh!
[18:57] <bazhang> frokensen, stay on topic here
[18:57] <dtolj> usser: No it still dosnt work. I think i have messed my root account, when i ssh now and enter my correct psw it gives me your account has expired!
[18:58] <miha> holyguyver: you cant really change mounted partition?! try using livecd?
[18:58] <joejc> how do i make a launcher for my home folder?
[18:58] <gp101> momomo: if i paste my dmesg, can you look at it, I don't see much, I see [    1.938328] usbcore: registered new device driver usb, but that's it
[18:58] <miha> holyguyver: my guess
[18:58] <SingAlong> frokensen: this channel is for ubuntu support only
[18:58] <holyguyver> miha I am in the live CD
[18:58] <miha> oh
[18:58] <miha> hm
[18:58]  * miha will stop giving useless advice ;)
[18:58] <ikonia> SingAlong: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112200/ just setup a keyboard and mouse
[18:58] <momomo> gp101: if you dont mind for privacy, just pastebinit
[18:58] <gp101> !pastebin
[18:59] <SingAlong> ikonia: I have a doubt
[18:59] <ikonia> SingAlong: expalin
[18:59] <ikonia> explain
[18:59] <SingAlong> ikonia: that bluetooth address you gave there for those devices. should I specify my phone's address there?
[18:59] <ikonia> SingAlong: correct
[18:59] <frokensen> windows7 have touchscreen, ubuntu not, i think
[18:59] <gp101> momomo: I don't mind, I don't think there is anything people can use to hack my system.  http://paste.ubuntu.com/112202/
[19:00] <sh1m0n> hi everyone, i have a little problem with grub. I installed Ubuntu 8.10 after Windows xp. Every Boot i get the a Boot screen. But if I want to start XP, i get : Error 13: invalid or unsupported executalbe format. I'm also quiet new to Ubuntu/Linux. Searching the net didn't really help
[19:00] <SingAlong> ikonia: and should I use those auth and encrypt stuff?
[19:00] <tritium> frokensen: you can use a touchscreen or tablet with linux
[19:00] <holyguyver> So any other takers?
[19:00] <ikonia> SingAlong: try both - first without - then with IF it works without
[19:00] <ikonia> SingAlong: auth enabled should prompt for a pass key
[19:00] <usser> dtolj, hm when u login as regular user its expired or when u do su?
[19:00] <ikonia> SingAlong: (which should hopefully solve the poblem you're having)
[19:00] <TuxSympathiser> kernel 2.6.27-11 is not turning my ethernet card off, is this a new feature of some sort?
[19:00] <SingAlong> ikonia: oh yeah
[19:01] <ikonia> SingAlong: try without first just to see if it pairs
[19:01] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: all depends on the config
[19:01] <SingAlong> ikonia: that passkey popping is what I think should solve the problem
[19:01] <dtolj> usser: i log in as non-root and then sudo su, enter psw and it gives me Your account has expired; contact sys admin. (Ignored)
[19:01] <ikonia> SingAlong: gopefully
[19:01] <ikonia> hopefully
[19:01] <ikonia> dtolj: you don't sudo su
[19:01] <SingAlong> ikonia: Can I use Kate editor to add this and restart bluetooth?
[19:01] <usser> dtolj, try sudo passwd root again
[19:01] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, well I upgraded and -11 doesn't turn the ethernet off
[19:01] <ikonia> dtolj: thats not the ubuntu security model
[19:01] <miha> sh1m0n: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-905367.html check last two posts here
[19:01] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: why should it ?
[19:01] <holyguyver> My partition setup is set up so that I have two logical partitions & one extended partition with three partitions inside of it. I want to delete one of the partitions inside of my extended partition which  gparted will let me do, & then I want to shrink my extended partition which gparted will not let me do having the locked sign next to the extended partition. How can I shrink my extended partition?
[19:02] <holyguyver> Hey is there a channel for gparted?
[19:02]  * revourbis Hello.
[19:02] <ikonia> holyguyver: to change the extended partitions you need to remove the 3 logical ones bellow it
[19:02] <adaptr> holyguyver: you can't resize an extended partition that has logical partitions inside it
[19:02] <dtolj> ikonia: usser i have just changed my root password again and when i sudo su or just su it still gives me that message
[19:03] <Jeruvy> adaptr: he was told that :)
[19:03] <ikonia> dtolj: you should not have set a root password
[19:03] <minche> i need help
[19:03] <minche> i had everything with compiz and emerald working
[19:03]  * revourbis I have a little problem, I'm trying to run Diablo 2 trough wine, well it works but how do I make it connect to a certain server, wich it does in Windows because if a .reg file making it so.
[19:03] <holyguyver> ikonia & adaptr , but my ubuntu root & home are in there.
[19:03] <minche> and i installed fusion icon today
[19:03] <ikonia> holyguyver: then you can't change it
[19:03] <tritium> dtolj: don't sudo su, either.  Use "sudo -i"
[19:03] <adaptr> holyguyver: those are the facts.
[19:03] <minche> and now nothing is working T_T
[19:03] <tsrk> how can I see the list of packages that I've asked to be installed?
[19:03] <usser> dtolj, try sudo passwd -u root
[19:04] <gp101> can someone help me, lsusb gives no output
[19:04] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, if WOL is off then yes it should be turned off
[19:04] <holyguyver> ikonia & adaptr , if I used partition magic or some other program could I?
[19:04] <ikonia> holyguyver: no
[19:04] <unop> dtolj, usser - it's not recommended you set the root password
[19:04] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: err..whut ?
[19:04] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr previous kernels do and windows xp does so what has changed in the latest kernel?
[19:04] <usser> unop, i know, i told him
[19:04] <argence> Bonsoir la foule
[19:04] <Jeruvy> holyguyver: if its a FAT partition you could try FIPS...otherwise the ONLY tool I'm aware that COULD MAYBE do it is partition magic.
[19:04] <adaptr> holyguyver: partition magic can move the partitions within, yes
[19:04] <momomo> gp101: hmm, lines 343. "ohci" no guarantees but my linux book referring to kernel 2.4 mentions that it directly relates to usb
[19:04] <dtolj> unop: why not
[19:05] <unop> usser, so why use passwd -u ??
[19:05] <miha> revourbis: http://www.winehq.org/docs/wineusr-guide/using-regedit
[19:05] <gp101> momomo: what do you think I should do?
[19:05] <sh1m0n> miha: I my menu.lst looks exactly like that. I have 2 Harddrives in it. One Sata and one ide. Windows and ubuntu are on the ide.
[19:05] <argence> Is there a french channel for Ubunto, pls ?
[19:05] <SingAlong> ikonia: still getting the same error
[19:05] <ikonia> argence: #ubuntu-fr
[19:05] <revourbis> Thanks a lot miha.
[19:05] <ikonia> SingAlong: still no popup for a passkey
[19:05] <usser> unop, he wants to use sshfs root@host:/rootaccesibledir /mnt
[19:05] <dtolj> unop: why can't i set the root password?
[19:05] <argence> _____________________ Is there a french channel for Ubunto, pls ?
[19:05] <holyguyver> Jeruvy it is an extended partition it has three partitions inside of it one is ext3, another is Fat32, & the third is ext3 again.
[19:05] <momomo> gp101: add the suggested boot parameter from dmesg and try a restart
[19:05] <ikonia> argence: #ubuntu-fr
[19:05] <argence> thanks, iko
[19:06] <miha> sh1m0n: i never had such problems, i just googled error message:P
[19:06] <swtaarrs> has anyone else had xchat-gnome highlight lines that don't have any of the trigger words in them?
[19:06] <tritium> dtolj: you can do you whatever you want, we just don't recommend it.
[19:06] <unop> dtolj, you can set one, but there generally is no need for one
[19:06] <holyguyver> adaptr, I do not want to move the partitions within, I want to shrink the extended partition.
[19:06] <ikonia> holyguyver: you can't
[19:06] <Rafase_282> hello
[19:06] <ikonia> holyguyver: that has been told to you 3 - 4 times now
[19:06] <miha> sh1m0n: i dont even have SATA, or do i? (perhaps in notebook)
[19:07] <WIGGMPk> I have a question. In snypatic package manager, it shows me having "linux-headers-generic" at version 2.6.27.11.14 but I also show linux-header-2.6.27-11 which is version 2.6.27.11.14.... so whats the difference between the two besides the version.. and what can I remove?
[19:07] <holyguyver> ikonia, I am not talking to you, & I was not asking that< I was simply telling him what I wanted to do as he seemed to have been not sure of what I was asking.
[19:07] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, Wake On Lan
[19:07] <ikonia> holyguyver: I'm just making it %100 clear - you can't
[19:07] <dtolj> unop: do you mean you never use root? or are you logging is as sudoer
[19:07] <sh1m0n> miha: but thx anyway. u wouldn't by any chance know the terminal command to show the partitions ...?
[19:07] <gp101> momomo: ok I'll try to add pci=biosirq
[19:07] <SingAlong> ikonia: still not working. I edited my hcid.conf file and restarted bluetooth. it shows the same error. here's my new hcid.conf file http://paste.ubuntu.com/112205/
[19:08] <a[z]rael> the best player of movies from ubuntu?!
[19:08] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: I know what WOL is, but it has nothing to do with whether your NIC is on or off
[19:08] <mmm4m5m> Backup question please: I do 'tar /' archive. I is slow. I would like to clone root partition instead. Please tell me some simple solution and how to do it (do I have to use single user mode, etc)
[19:08] <momomo> gp101: yes, good luck
[19:08] <holyguyver> ikonia & I uinderstands I was simply letting him know what I was trying to acomplish as he seemed to have thought I wanted to move the ones inside of it around, which I do not.
[19:08] <unop> dtolj, i don't ever log on as root .. but i become the superuser using sudo .. if that's what you mean
[19:08] <miha> sh1m0n: 'fdisk /dev/sda' .. 'p' for 'print'
[19:08] <adaptr> mmm4m5m: use a good backup solution to make an image of your root partition
[19:08] <dtolj> unop: ok
[19:08] <sh1m0n> ok, thx
[19:09] <Jeruvy> adaptr: what imaging tools do you recommend? dd?   Or others?
[19:09] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, hmm, for some reason -11 leaves it on which is a slight drain on battery power
[19:09] <Xunie> Any startrek fans here?... ##startrek
[19:09] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: what does this have to do with WOL ?
[19:09] <ikonia> SingAlong: drop encyption
[19:09] <ikonia> Xunie: dont spam
[19:09] <mmm4m5m> adaptr: good solution like? about dd - again not sure. I want to clone partition without empty space in partition.
[19:09] <tritium> Xunie: stay on topic
[19:09] <adaptr> mmm4m5m: partimage, for instance
[19:09] <sh1m0n> my partitions start all with sda1 .... but in the menu.lst is refered to hd1,0 ....could that be the problem?
[19:09] <adaptr> mmm4m5m: you need free space on a drive to store the image
[19:09] <ikonia> SingAlong: no - dont worry about that
[19:10] <ikonia> SingAlong: sorry - not you
[19:10] <ikonia> sh1m0n: don't worry about that
[19:10] <nightrid3r> !nic
[19:10] <ikonia> sh1m0n: grub uses a different name for disks
[19:10] <sh1m0n> damn
[19:10] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, well the ethernet adapter needs to be active in order for WOL to work
[19:10] <sh1m0n> :(
[19:10] <SingAlong> ikonia: any idea whats wrong?
[19:10] <ikonia> SingAlong: drop the encyption line
[19:10] <Xunie> ikonia, tritium, Sorry.. :/
[19:10] <mmm4m5m> sh1m0n: in menu.lst I have only (hd0,#). I boot from usb, sometimes it is /dev/sda, sometimes it is /dev/sdb. But it works. I use uuid as kernel parameter.
[19:10] <tritium> Xunie: that's ok
[19:10] <sh1m0n> ikonia: do u have any idea, what i could to?
[19:10] <vish> yo, exit!
[19:10] <dangerduck> YOU FUCKIN MOTHER FUCKER
[19:10] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: do you understand what WOL does ?
[19:11] <revourbis> :))
[19:11] <usser> dtolj, did it work?
[19:11] <sh1m0n> mmm4m5m: ok, i will try...thx a lot, be back in a sec:-)
[19:11] <SingAlong> ikonia: same error still
[19:11] <sh1m0n> what das uuid as kernel parameter mean?
[19:11] <ikonia> sh1m0n: it's a universal name for disks
[19:11] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, yes it allows you to wake your computer up when its sleeping
[19:12] <mmm4m5m> sh1m0n: I am not expert!!! someone told me - it works because boot hdd is always index 0. Maybe question is: where your grub is installed
[19:12] <ikonia> SingAlong: try restarting /etc/init.d/bluetooth
[19:12] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: when it is *OFF*
[19:12] <dtolj> unop: usser But i need to log in as root for sshfs, and somehow my root account on the host expired which prevents me from doing that
[19:12] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: hint: there is not much kernel activity when the system is off
[19:12] <Daremonai> I have a PCE 1200VA UPS, and it has a Serial RS-232 port on it (I got a serial to USB converter) anyway, I would like a software that allows me to track information about the UPS, does anyone know any such software? (it came with a program called: PowerTrack, but it only works on windows)
[19:12] <usser> dtolj, did u try sudo passwd -u root
[19:12] <cyrus__> if I want to automatically m ount an NFS partition at boot, how do I do that
[19:12] <TuniX12> hello how to print bash script line by line in console?
[19:12] <sh1m0n> mmm4m5: my grub should be installed on the same disk, but on another partition (i'm not so sure about that) :-S
[19:13] <usser> dtolj, that should reset the expires field
[19:13] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, nope which is why I don't understand why the new kernel doesn't shut the ethernet adapter off
[19:13] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: understanding fail
[19:13] <SingAlong> ikonia: I've been restarting bluetooth everytime I edit the file
[19:13] <gp101> momomo: it worked  how can I make that permanent?
[19:13] <dtolj> usser: Thank you usser passwd -u worked and now i can ssh as root
[19:13] <ikonia> SingAlong: good call
[19:13] <usser> dtolj, cool
[19:13] <gp101> momomo: during setup I had to add noacpi acpi=off to the boot line
[19:13] <ikonia> SingAlong: sounds most odd, all the nokia's and some other phones I use all work out of the box
[19:13] <gp101> momomo: could that be the problem?
[19:13] <nightrid3r> has anyone experience with an RTL8211CL network card under intrepid
[19:14] <ikonia> SingAlong: out of interest have you setup gnokii to try to manage your bluetooth connecction ?
[19:14] <usser> dtolj, set a strong password for root, make sure your box cannot be reached from the internet. and change ssh server port to something like 8022
[19:14] <holyguyver> Alright, how in gparted do I change my systems home partition to aim at a different partition on an already installed instalation?
[19:14] <ikonia> holyguyver: you don't do that in gparted
[19:15] <ikonia> holyguyver: you do that in /etc/fstab
[19:15] <SingAlong> ikonia: nope!
[19:15] <usser> dtolj, thats just recommendations though :)
[19:15] <nightrid3r> holyguyver: you dont
[19:15] <ikonia> SingAlong: worth a try ?
[19:15] <momomo> gp101: dont know how the switches exactly interrelate, sorry, one sec
[19:15] <SingAlong> inokia: I'm trying to set this up programmatically
[19:15] <gp101> momomo: how do I make what I add to the bootline permanent?
[19:15] <Wille_eee> what would be the isue with a harddrive if i force mount it, and it goes wrong? i have important data in it.
[19:15] <ikonia> SingAlong: fancy trying gnokii ?
[19:15] <usser> holyguyver, you dont need gparted for that. edit /etc/fstab to mount /home on a different partition
[19:15] <momomo> gp101: 1 sec
[19:15] <TuxSympathiser> adatr, the link light is still flashing when I have shut down from kernel 2.6.27-11
[19:15] <mmm4m5m> adaptr: thank you (about partimage). Checking now.
[19:16] <cyrus__> if I want to automatically m ount an NFS partition at boot, how do I do that
[19:16] <ikonia> cyrus__: put it in your fstab
[19:16] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: and it always will
[19:16] <cyrus__> ikonia - I have it there, still doesn't automatically  mount on boot
[19:16] <dtolj> usser: this is not permanent setting anyways
[19:16] <SingAlong> ikonia: I'm using Python both on my phone and Ubuntu to connect. I'll have to do this programmatically. or else I would have used Kbluetooth which worked for transfering files to my phone
[19:16] <ikonia> cyrus__: what happens if you do "sudo mount $mountpoint" after boot ?
[19:16] <usser> cyrus__, fstab line: server:/directory /mountpoint nfs default 0 0
[19:16] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: if you think this has something to do with WOL then disable WOL before it shuts down
[19:17] <holyguyver> .ikonia, nightrid3r, & usser , please do PM me with presice instructions or else perhaps an ubottu link to where I can read presice instructions on how to do thaty
[19:17] <Wille_eee> or consecvenses however i spell that
[19:17] <momomo> gp101: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto#Setting%20kernel%20parameters
[19:17] <adaptr> holyguyver: please pay attention while people help you here in channel, and don't ask for private help
[19:17] <cyrus__> ikonia - it mou nts
[19:17] <holyguyver> adaptr can you give me privet help?
[19:17] <gp101> momomo: thanks a lot
[19:17] <ikonia> cyrus__: interesting
[19:18] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, WOL is disabled, so why would the new kernel not turn the ethernet adapter off?
[19:18] <momomo> gp101: glad you came here
[19:18] <usser> holyguyver, have you already created a new partition for your /home ?
[19:18] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: how do you know it is disabled ?
[19:18] <kevin_> Hello
[19:18] <holyguyver> usser yes
[19:18] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: as far as I know, WOL is a BIOS setting
[19:19] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, I disabled it in the bios
[19:19] <usser> holyguyver, do you know the name of it?
[19:19] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: then it's disabled
[19:19] <holyguyver> I can easily know that yes
[19:19] <usser> holyguyver, right so run sudo blkid
[19:19] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, so why does -11 leave the ethernet adapter active?
[19:19] <usser> holyguyver, find your partition name and copy uuid
[19:19] <holyguyver> usser what does that have to do with the fstab?
[19:19] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: how do you know it is active ?
[19:20] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, the link light is on
[19:20] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: and ?
[19:20] <usser> holyguyver, you'll have to modify your /home entry in fstab and its better to use uuid instead of the partition name because partition names change and uuids stay constant
[19:20] <TuxSympathiser> adaptr, it shouldn't be
[19:20] <adaptr> TuxSympathiser: ask a smarter question next time
[19:20] <usser> holyguyver, so that u wouldnt end up with a broken system next you add a harddrive
[19:20] <bonez46> what does ubuntu normally use to autogenerate xorg.conf?
[19:21] <usser> bonez46, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:21] <knuck> so
[19:21] <holyguyver> usser as I asked before do you have a link to a ubuntu wiki page that says this?
[19:21] <knuck> i'm having problems with fstab
[19:21] <nightrid3r> has anyone experience with an RTL8211CL network card under intrepid
[19:21] <knuck> anyone willing to help?
[19:21] <usser> holyguyver, oh, its all over the place hang on
[19:21] <AR> knuck: just speak your problem
[19:21] <bonez46> usser:  I run that it and it does nothing, no changes to my xorg.conf .. even with the '-phigh' flagg included
[19:21] <usser> holyguyver, here http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[19:22] <knuck> for some reason i have on fstab entry that creates 3 partitions
[19:22] <AR> bonez46: probably you want to rename your original xorg.conf first
[19:22] <usser> bonez46, yea as of hardy information about video card/monitor modes is no longer stored in xorg.conf its only stuff like keyboard mouse etc.
[19:22] <knuck> and those partitions are all owned by root so i can't write to them
[19:22] <Danuk-men> jpin #Ubuntu-ar
[19:22] <usser> bonez46, use xrandr to play around with resolutions and such
[19:23] <Danuk-men> join #Ubuntu-ar
[19:23] <natrixnatrix89> Hi! Is it possible to use bluetooth headphomes in ubuntu?
[19:23] <holyguyver> usser, you meantioned some sort of uuid, yet that page does not have the words uuid on it.
[19:24] <usser> holyguyver, this guide is a bit old, uuids only made inroads in the recent years
[19:24] <usser> holyguyver, essentially instead of /dev/name you use a unique indentifier uuid thats the only difference
[19:25] <jxander> why can't i see the copy progress bar in xfce?
[19:25] <usser> holyguyver, heres more recent one http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=283131
[19:26] <keithclark> How do I stop fsck from starting every 22 boots?
[19:26] <blakbass> c'est le chat francais?
[19:27] <exodus_ms> Ifr
[19:27] <revourbis> Can anyone tell me if there are any WYSIWYG HTML editors similar to dreamweaver on any of the software sources?
[19:27] <nightrid3r> !fr | blakbass
[19:28] <momomo> revourbis: check the bottom part of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adobe_Dreamweaver
[19:28] <natrixnatrix89> guys.. Could you please tell me how to set up bluetooth headphones on ubuntu?
[19:28] <AR> knuck: yes. by default they will be owned by root. probably you want to create a directory inside the partitions and with proper premission set, such that you can write into it
[19:29] <knuck> cant i make the whole partition be mounted with 777?
[19:29] <exodus_ms> revourbis: Quanta Bluefish Ginf Screem Nvu Mozilla Composer
[19:29] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: there is no secret, follow the device instructions and go.
[19:30] <nightrid3r> revourbis: have a look at amaya
[19:30] <revourbis> I have that too.
[19:30] <natrixnatrix89> Jeruvy: but how do I make the sounds on pc sound on headphones?
[19:31] <revourbis> Well I have Quanta Bluefish but I don't seem to find the "design" button or switch or whatever...
[19:31] <natrixnatrix89> I connected them. but what next?
[19:31] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: that depends on what the protocals the bluetooth supports.
[19:31] <AR> knuck: the only way i know how to do it is: for each line of your fstab file, in the options field(the 4th field), type in "noauto, rw, user". but then you need to mount those partitions manually
[19:32] <knuck> uh
[19:32] <knuck> i'm new to linux but
[19:32] <natrixnatrix89> So can you recommend me anything?
[19:32] <csana> how can i open .bundle files?
[19:32] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: hmm, lets rephrase that..it depends on the protocals that the bluetooth devices support.
[19:32] <norty> Question: I am trying to install a program that uses X-Windows and when I type the command 'make X-Configure name=linux' and then 'make' I get an error on make saying that I don't have some files such as: X11/Xlib.h... how do I fix this, what packages do I need?
[19:32] <AR> knuck: for your reference: TuxSympathiser
[19:32] <knuck> you're telling me every linux user has no access to write to their partitions?
[19:32] <AR> knuck: for your reference: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/fstab.htm
[19:32] <exodus_ms> revourbis: If you use Quanta Plus check out this link --> http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdewebdev/quanta/index.html
[19:33] <usser> norty, sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[19:33] <natrixnatrix89> Jeruvy: Ok then. something else - Is it possible to connect a bluetooth keyboard?
[19:33] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: usually one device goes into 'discovery' mode, the other then searches, finds it, enters a password, and your connected.  What they actually do once connected is dependant on the protocals it supports.
[19:33] <csana> how can i open .bundle files?
[19:33] <TuxSympathiser> AR, hmm I am a reference or just you copied my name???
[19:33] <AR> knuck: yes, for the root of each partitions, normally you won't want to give write premission to normal users.
[19:33] <Fertech> how can i give permission to update my avg software
[19:34] <knuck> security isn't a concern here seeing as only 2 people use this computer
[19:34] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: in your keyboard manual it should state what it supports.  Make sure the computers BT radio supports it also (typically do), then if ther are problems let us know what you encounter
[19:34] <momomo> csana: hmm, .bundle seems to be for OS X. you really need to open it?
[19:34] <knuck> but ok
[19:35] <baz> whats the command to mount my sftp locally: sftp://baz@172.16.113.134/var/www/roundcube
[19:35] <csana> really? i downloaded the vmware installer for linux!?
[19:35] <tuxflavoredwaffl> Hi!  Is there an equivalent of daemon tools for ubuntu 8.04?
[19:35] <norty> usser: thanks!!
[19:35] <Fertech> does any1 knows how 2 update avg
[19:35] <natrixnatrix89> Jeruvy: Yes, but once it is connected.. Is there anything else I should do to make it work?
[19:35] <nightrid3r> tuxflavoredwaffl: mount
[19:35] <tuxflavoredwaffl> nightrid3r is that a terminal command?
[19:36] <Fertech>  how can i give permission to update my avg software
[19:36] <nightrid3r> tuxflavoredwaffl: yes
[19:36] <usser> baz, what do you mean by mount locally?
[19:36] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: technically no, some wireless devices have a 'connect' button on them since they do tend to sleep due to inactivity
[19:36] <natrixnatrix89> Fertech: what is avg software?
[19:36] <baz> csana, http://computerboom.blogspot.com/2008/11/how-to-install-vmware-on-ubuntu-bundle.html
[19:36] <keithclark> How do I stop fsck from starting every 22 boots?
[19:37] <Fertech> anti-virus
[19:37] <baz> usser, i want it to show up as a folder thru another program
[19:37] <momomo> Fertech: is avg a terminal program?
[19:37] <csana> baz:thx ill check it out
[19:37] <baz> csana, its not for osx
[19:37] <tuxflavoredwaffl> could someone breakdown how to use the mount command to mount an .iso file pretty please?
[19:37] <baz> csana, if u have more trouble after let me know i got it to work
[19:37] <nightrid3r> momomo: avg is antivirus
[19:37] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: does your bios see the keyboard at boot time?
[19:37] <natrixnatrix89> Jeruvy: so it means Once the headphones are connected, they should work and play all the sounds my ubuntu plays?
[19:37] <usser> baz, oh you need sshfs, once u have it sshfs baz@172.16.113.134:/var/www/roundcube /localdirectory
[19:37] <knuck> hmm
[19:37] <exodus_ms> Fertech: try this  system>administrator>users and groups
[19:37] <knuck> i cant have the main partition as noauto
[19:38] <knuck> this is a problem
[19:38] <aaditya> !baz
[19:38] <csana> baz:wha?
[19:38] <knuck> i dont get why fstab doesnt have entries for each partition in this drive
[19:38] <Jeruvy> natrixnatrix89: hmm, not sure typically keyboards don't have AV protocals...but they might...
[19:38] <aaditya> !foo
[19:38] <usser> tuxflavoredwaffl, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/isofile /media/cdrom
[19:38] <exodus_ms> Fertech: then manage groups>select avg>press properties
[19:38] <aaditya> !bar
[19:38] <knuck> it's like one uiid for 3 partitions
[19:38] <knuck> that doesnt let me do a lot
[19:39] <tuxflavoredwaffl> usser and /path/to/isofile is the obvious ?
[19:39] <exodus_ms> Fertech: then select all group members (root, your user, avg)
[19:39] <usser> tuxflavoredwaffl, its where your .iso is located
[19:39] <exodus_ms> Fertech: then press ok, close, close, reboot your system,  load up the system, load avg and run the update process.
[19:39] <Jeruvy> !hcl | natrixnatrix89: did you check hcl?
[19:39] <tuxflavoredwaffl> usser thankyou very much.  tux bless you.
[19:39] <usser> tuxflavoredwaffl, no problem
[19:39] <natrixnatrix89> ok
[19:39] <natrixnatrix89> ill try
[19:40] <csana> baz:well hte installers open@
[19:40] <csana> *!
[19:40] <mmm4m5m> adaptr: hi. Please little help. PartImage wiki pages (docs), does not tell anything about backup root partition. Advantage of using tar is, I do not have to use single user mode or live CD. What about partimage?
[19:41] <ziggles> Hi guys, should i be running iptables?
[19:41] <adaptr> mmm4m5m: systemrescuecd can do what you want
[19:41] <knuck> AR: is there a way to recursively chmod?
[19:41] <Jeruvy> ziggles: why?
[19:41] <usser> knuck, chmod -R
[19:41] <adaptr> ziggles: is your system directly connected to the internet ?
[19:41] <knuck> that way i could just 777 the whole partition
[19:41] <knuck> cool
[19:41] <rodrigo> hola
[19:41] <ziggles> adaptr: yep
[19:41] <mmm4m5m> adaptr: I am sure - or every live CD. Question is: is it safe to do it in single user mode?
[19:41] <Fertech> no its a terminal
[19:42] <unop> knuck, chmodding everything to 777 is not wise
[19:42] <exodus_ms> Fertech: no gui?
[19:42] <adaptr> mmm4m5m: safe to do *what* ? to back up your system partition, it does not take a big brain to figure out that you cannot be running from that partitions while you're doing that
[19:42] <Fertech>  but il try the manage groups
[19:42] <heatmzzr> can you use ekiga to call a aol user?
[19:42] <heatmzzr> aim user
[19:43] <exodus_ms> Fertech: try this --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112217/vv
[19:43] <mmm4m5m> adaptr: i see :) (my brain is not big, that is why asking :) sorry)
[19:43] <exodus_ms> Fertech: sorry --> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112217/
[19:43] <knuck> unop: well i used windows for the past 9 years and everything was basically 777
[19:43] <Fertech> ok i got it thanks exodus
[19:44] <knuck> having everything with only read permissions is being frustrating
[19:44] <unop> knuck, windows does not use unix permissions - it has its own kind
[19:44] <ziggles> adaptr: the system is directly connected to the net
[19:45] <ziggles> How does one make the decision if they need iptables or not?
[19:45] <adaptr> ziggles: then yes, you should most certainly be running iptables
[19:45] <knuck> yes
[19:45] <knuck> i'm sure you know windows though
[19:45] <Tharko1978> anybody that can help me a bit?
[19:45] <knuck> by default, every folder has read/write
[19:45] <adaptr> ziggles: actually, you ARE running it, since it's part of the kernel, but you should install safe default rules
[19:45] <exodus_ms> !ask | Tharko1978
[19:45] <ziggles> adaptr: is it wrong to say that if i dont have services listening on various ports then i should be closed up like a turtle's ass?
[19:45] <whatev> i thought you can login to the console, instead of gnome, by clicking 'console' from the login menu in ubuntu, but i dont see such an option. any ideas?
[19:45] <ziggles> (water tight)
[19:45] <Jeruvy> knuck: actually windows uses ACL's to handle permissions...but this is the wrong channel.
[19:46] <yoyoned> ziggles: if you are connected directly to the net( no router) you need a firewall
[19:46] <adaptr> ziggles: the safest way for exposed systems is to cloak all ports you don't use
[19:46] <unop> knuck, that's not true for all users - it may be for the administrator account (but that really is a different case)
[19:46] <zic> hellow mother fukera
[19:46] <knuck> well
[19:46] <forceflow> whatev: just switch ty tty1/2/...
[19:46] <baz> usser, i got sshfs installed - how would i use it? :)
[19:46] <knuck> in my computer there were always 2 adminstrator accounts
[19:46] <HackSign> who can help me install grub to my computer ?
[19:46] <knuck> so i dont think that will be a problem
[19:46] <Jeruvy> !language | zic
[19:46] <adaptr> ohmy > Guest25573
[19:47] <whatev> what dose ctrl+alt+backspace do in gnome, close it?
[19:47] <_VIM_> zic please use some tact
[19:47] <yoyoned> HackSign: a little more specific?
[19:47] <zash> whatev: kills the X server
[19:47] <Tharko1978> I got problems playing streaming tv. What codec should i use?
[19:47] <adaptr> whatev: it restarts Xorg
[19:47] <usser> baz, sshfs user@server:/directory /localdirectory
[19:47] <yoyoned> whatev: it kills the X server
[19:47] <grobda24> Anyone any idea how to stop Google Earth starting another instance of it'self when I click on a KML link in Firefix ?
[19:47] <whatev> will it throw me in a console?
[19:47] <adaptr> answer fail, zash and yoyoned
[19:47] <grobda24> Firefox*
[19:47] <momomo> !grub | HackSign feel free to ask and stating your problem ;-)
[19:47] <adaptr> whatev: no
[19:47] <HackSign> yoyoned,i made a lfs os
[19:48] <minche> i cant connect my mobile phone :(
[19:48] <ziggles> baz: mkdir ~/somedirectory; sshfs sshuser@ip:/remote/path ~/somedirectory;
[19:48] <zash> adaptr: how so?
[19:48] <adaptr> zash: it restarts X
[19:48] <HackSign> yoyoned,and when i exec grub-install there r something wrong ....
[19:48] <zash> adaptr: no, it makes X kill itself, and then gdm restarts X
[19:48] <momomo> Tharko1978: which player do you use?
[19:48] <adaptr> zash: in ubuntu, anyway, since ubuntu runs gdm as a service, which will always restart X
[19:48]  * Tcl  is away got to go 
[19:48] <ziggles> adaptr: yoyoned:  is there like a default set of rules i should be using for iptables?
[19:48] <minche> anyone?
[19:49] <HackSign> yoyoned,bash returned "stage1 not read correctly"
[19:49] <adaptr> ziggles: install firestarter or some such and read some guiedlines
[19:49] <Tharko1978> momomo: I just use the player that comes with Ubuntu.. Newbie here
[19:49] <minche> i cant open my mpbiloe phone memory card :/
[19:49] <HackSign> yoyoned,do u know y ?
[19:49] <ziggles> adaptr: any suggestions for guides? :)
[19:49] <momomo> Tharko1978: ok, then does it offer you to download a plugin as soon as the player starts playing the media stream?
[19:49] <dougl> is there anyway I can use a utility to check what kind of motherboard is in my 8.10 box?
[19:50] <adaptr> ziggles: firestarter makes it quite easy, but I would suggest an INPUT policy of DROP, which means don't respond, i.e. cloak
[19:50] <Tharko1978> momomo: I did that but nothing happens. I get at black screen where the clip should be, but it looks like an image of a paper if you know what i mean..
[19:50] <momomo> dougl: lspci can list tons of hardware info for you
[19:50] <unop> dougl,  sudo dmidecode
[19:51] <Fertech> so what do i do after i select avg
[19:52] <sambagirl> is ubuntu based on debian?
[19:52] <tritium> sambagirl: yes
[19:52] <ziggles> dougl: also try sudo lshw
[19:52] <Limitt> how do you manually configure dns in wireless
[19:52] <Limitt> Im getting dns problems
[19:52] <sambagirl> has anyone installed opensips in ubuntu?
[19:53] <Limitt> I dont need dns to be working to use this correct?
[19:53] <ziggles> Limitt: you can add  your own dns servers to /etc/resolv.conf
[19:53] <Limitt> no nice litte gui for tiat
[19:54] <usser> ziggles, that wont work dhcp client will overwrite that
[19:54] <momomo> Tharko1978: not sure if i get it, do you mind posting a screenshot?
[19:54] <ziggles> usser: oh that's true.
[19:54] <Fertech> ok let me check out the link
[19:54] <usser> Limitt, you need to edit /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf and add prepend lines
[19:54] <dougl> thanks guys
[19:54] <ziggles> Limitt: can you manually set them in the wireless router?
[19:54] <usser> Limitt, with the dns servers you would like to use
[19:54] <Limitt> i just want to use my router ip address as the dns
[19:55] <Limitt> that worked in windowz
[19:55] <Limitt> and on my xbox 360 and everything
[19:55] <usser> Limitt, add prepend domain-name-servers ip_of_your_router; to /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[19:55] <Limitt> so there really is not a gui app for this?
[19:56] <adaptr> Limitt: network-manager has a GUI
[19:56] <Tharko1978> momomo: If i click on the screen i get the message that i dont got the permission to use it! Something with the user rights?
[19:56] <usser> Limitt, there is, but its really easier and more foolproof to do it manually
[19:56] <usser> Limitt, if u do it by hand you'll know exactly that its there and that it works, with network manager you never know its a bloody mess
[19:56] <grizlo42> i just did an update a few days ago, and now any accelerated graphics don't work
[19:57] <momomo> Tharko1978: what is the stream url?
[19:57] <Fertech> can i plug i usb hard drive with windows and scan that drive or is avg anti-virus for linux only
[19:57] <sambagirl> is anyone successfully using magicjack with linux?
[19:57] <Javier> hello, i've got a problem, when i try to watch a fullscreen video in youtube, because as soon as i press the icon for fullscreen it takes me back to regular, can somebody help me?
[19:57] <Tharko1978> http://www1.nrk.no/nett-tv/klipp/458109
[19:57] <Limitt> true true
[19:57] <grizlo42> i have an ati radeon hd 3650, and it used to work fine for all opengl at least when compiz wasn't running, but thats a separate issue
[19:57] <Limitt> could you type the location on more time
[19:57] <Limitt> it did not come up
[19:57] <usser> sambagirl, if u running linux with any image viewer/editor you're already using imagemagick
[19:58] <usser> sambagirl, oops sorry read that wrong nvm
[19:58] <sambagirl> no no usser magicjack
[19:58] <_VIM_> HI I need to mount this External USB hdd Permanently 24/7 the UUID is e95890e6-66d4-40e6-86a8-6a260269e1d7 and it's on /dev/sde1  how would I set Fstab up for this?
[19:58] <usser> sambagirl, yea sorry
[19:58] <Jeruvy> Javier: any errors noted in /var/log/messages (out of memory or such...)
[19:58] <sambagirl> ok
[19:58] <Fertech> is there any ubuntu anti-virus  that i can scan to a usb windows drive
[19:58] <usser> Fertech, clamAV
[19:58] <Jeruvy> Fertech: clamav
[19:58] <Jinxed-32> !dualboot
[19:58] <Javier> ﻿Jeruvy; how can i check that?
[19:58] <PMEDUB> Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot connect to a wireless network?
[19:58] <Fertech> ok
[19:58] <exodus_ms> _VIM_: what fs is the external hdd using
[19:59] <usser> Limitt, /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf
[19:59] <momomo> Tharko1978: i see
[19:59] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: ext3
[19:59] <Fertech> thanks usser and jeruvy
[19:59] <slim_> hello all, i'm using Communication controller to extend serial ports how to know which port belog to ttys12 or 3 ?
[19:59] <IceLord> #ubuntu-gr
[19:59] <grizlo42> now catalyst won't let it do accelerated graphics, compiz doesn't work, and glxgears show an error
[19:59] <sambagirl> i am downloading asterick from the suppository. will it automatically install and setup asterick for me?
[19:59] <Tharko1978> momomo: i tried that url on win xp and that works with that one, but not on my Ubuntu
[20:00] <earl__> question..  Whats he best program to watch dvd's and have the correct codecs
[20:00] <racecar56> hi everyone
[20:00] <divyesh> i installed ubuntu in windows
[20:00] <racecar56> mplayer has awesome codecs but idk about dvd
[20:00] <racecar56> lol kool
[20:00] <usser> earl__, vlc with libdvdcss2
[20:00] <raxial> earl_:  I like vlc
[20:00] <divyesh> it is booting very slowly
[20:00] <scottj> How do I load a key into memory so that for my entire session ssh will try to use it for authentications?
[20:00] <racecar56> i replaced windows with ubuntu
[20:00] <earl__> where do i get vlc
[20:00] <divyesh> ya we can do it
[20:00] <sambagirl> run ubuntu in windows via wubi
[20:00] <momomo> Tharko1978: i am trying to find out which codec they use, opening html source..
[20:00] <sambagirl> that works real well.
[20:00] <ziggles> adaptr: im checking out firestarter now.  so, should i add a rule for Every port i use? ie aim ports, http, ftp etc all that?
[20:00] <divyesh> but
[20:01] <usser> earl__, sudo apt-get install vlc
[20:01] <md22> i replaced windows vista (BOOTLEGGED) with Ubuntu
[20:01] <divyesh> it is running slowly
[20:01] <raxial> earl_:  use apt-get....what usser said
[20:01] <tritium> md22: please dont' even discuss bootleg software here
[20:01] <divyesh> i did the same it is VERY slow
[20:01] <Tharko1978> momomo: Ok.. Im so newbie on Ubuntu
[20:01] <Jeruvy> Javier: either view the /var/log/messages file in an editor or pager, or simply use the Admin -> system logs option from the menu.
[20:01] <_VIM_> HI I need to mount this External USB hdd Permanently 24/7 the UUID is e95890e6-66d4-40e6-86a8-6a260269e1d7 and it's on /dev/sde1  how would I set Fstab up for this?
[20:01] <_VIM_> ext 3
[20:02] <md22> tritium:not at all :D
[20:02] <divyesh> any solutions ?
[20:02] <tritium> md22: good.  It's strictly offtopic here.
[20:02] <exodus_ms> mkdir /mnt/externalHDD   then  mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/externalHDD
[20:02] <divyesh> why so tritium ??
[20:02] <exodus_ms> _VIM_: mkdir /mnt/externalHDD   then  mount -t ext3 /dev/sda1 /mnt/externalHDD
[20:02] <tritium> divyesh: because it's illegal
[20:03] <divyesh> kk
[20:03] <Javier> ﻿Jeruvy: it says nothing
[20:03] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: its already mounted
[20:03] <tritium> divyesh: that should go without saying
[20:03] <Jeruvy> Javier: hmm thats typically a huge log...are you sure?
[20:03] <divyesh> i am noob in this ubuntu
[20:03] <Limitt> whts the easiest text editor to start it with?
[20:03] <slim_> my question in other way how to know serial port  on my pc ?
[20:03] <racecar56> i have been using ubuntu scince 8.04.0
[20:03] <skinofstars1> Limitt: gedit
[20:04] <racecar56> but ive been using linux for ages
[20:04] <SiDi> exodus_ms: he wants the /etc/fstab line for it
[20:04] <divyesh> is ubuntu 8.10 latest ??
[20:04] <racecar56> yes
[20:04] <Limitt> lol could of guessed that.. like an idiot i tried kedit
[20:04] <divyesh> ok
[20:04] <racecar56> but 9.04a3 is latest unstable
[20:04] <racecar56> i reccomend 8.10
[20:04] <divyesh> no unstable ones
[20:04] <racecar56> HIGHLY
[20:04] <_VIM_> exodus_ms: /dev/sda1 isnt my external that's my main internal hdd
[20:04] <SiDi> divyesh: yes it is, but 9.04 alpha 3 is out too
[20:04] <SiDi> racecar56: :)
[20:04] <md22> tritium:so far i have setup my machine as a media server/workstation all with ubuntu 8.10
[20:04] <divyesh> fedora 9 was unstable
[20:04] <skinofstars1> Limitt: it comes as default, though of course you can tweak it with some plugins
[20:04] <racecar56> i don't like 9.04a3 its too buggy
[20:04] <tritium> md22: good deal
[20:04] <divyesh> ya
[20:04] <racecar56> the shutdown dialog was UGULY
[20:04] <skinofstars1> Limitt: asuming you're using gnome
[20:04] <racecar56> *ugly
[20:04] <racecar56> yes
[20:04] <TrueDD-Ubuntu> Hi all
[20:05] <racecar56> hi
[20:05] <The_Rebel> do any of you fine Ubuntu folks know how to get the magic sysreq key working?
[20:05] <divyesh> racecar56: modify it
[20:05] <racecar56> :o
[20:05] <divyesh> :lol:
[20:05] <PMEDUB> question: I have a belkin N1 Wireless Desktop Card. I am trying to connect to an unsecure Wireless G network.    I can see the network, when I tell it to connect it sais 'connecting'. and then sais 'disconnected'  Can anyone offer some suggestions?
[20:05] <racecar56> ubuntu > windows
[20:05] <divyesh> just kidding
[20:05] <SiDi> The_Rebel: sysreq key ?
[20:05] <The_Rebel> if you don't know what it is, don't ask.
[20:05] <racecar56> restart ur comp PMEDUB
[20:05] <earl__> how do i install libdvdcss2 for vlc
[20:05] <SiDi> racecar56: divyesh you could chat about 9.04 in #ubuntu+1, more appropriated
[20:05] <The_Rebel> i'm th eone that needs the help..
[20:05] <The_Rebel> the one*
[20:05] <tritium> earl__: through medibuntu
[20:06] <tritium> !medibuntu | earl__
[20:06] <md22> when is  9.04 coming out
[20:06] <PMEDUB> Racecar- I have tried that.  Even reinstalled Ubuntu
[20:06] <numus> are people still using compiz-fusion or is there a new decorate that is all the rage
[20:06] <racecar56> hmmm
[20:06] <exodus_ms> _VIM_: in fstab <device> <mountpoint> <filesystem> <mount options> 0 0
[20:06] <racecar56> weird
[20:06] <tritium> md22: in April, 2009.  Hence, the ".04" in the release version
[20:06] <zash> The_Rebel: do you happen to have a laptop with a "Fn" key?
[20:06] <_VIM_> md22: should be end of April
[20:06] <divyesh> compiz is using a lot of memory
[20:06] <md22> ok
[20:06] <racecar56> i have a FN key
[20:06] <The_Rebel> my keyboard has an FN key.
[20:06] <divyesh> in ubuntu
[20:06] <racecar56> and my laptop is prehistoric
[20:06] <racecar56> xD
[20:06] <The_Rebel> i've tried other keyboards too
[20:06] <divyesh> it is using 40 MB in mine :(
[20:06] <The_Rebel> and i can't get it working
[20:06] <numus> divyesh what are people using as window decorates
[20:06] <tritium> md22: the versioning is Y.MO
[20:07] <_VIM_> racecar56: mines an abacus :)
[20:07] <racecar56> lol
[20:07] <sambagirl> is anyone playing lfs in ubiuntu successfully?
[20:07] <numus> i remember when beryl was big... i just got wubi to install with windows 7 so i am relearning ubuntu
[20:07] <racecar56> ack
[20:07] <zash> The_Rebel: i have to press Alt+Fn+(SysRq|Del)+other key
[20:07] <racecar56> i think windows 7 will suck
[20:07] <Jinxed-32> Is it recommended that i partition my harddrive on my laptop with the built in vista function over the install disk?
[20:07] <SiDi> !ot > racecar56
[20:07] <numus> racecar56 you obviously dont think well
[20:07] <md22> tritium: ok. tanks
[20:07] <divyesh> it sucks i have tht beta version
[20:07] <sambagirl> windows 7 = vista
[20:07] <divyesh> no
[20:07] <Guest95678> I have this domain, 'www.webcouture.ma', I can enable it using a2ensite www.webcouture.ma and disable it, so it's well configured, but...I can only access it using the IP. Please, can anyone explain me step by step what must I do in order to access the domain name instead of the IP? I'm quite a newby
[20:07] <numus> sambagirl you obviously dont know what hte hell you are talking about
[20:08] <The_Rebel> zash, your using Intrepid? and what keyboard layout?
[20:08] <racecar56> i agree with sambagirl
[20:08] <racecar56> windows 7 ain't gonna be better
[20:08] <racecar56> if at all
[20:08] <zash> The_Rebel: intrepid, yes. swedish keyboard
[20:08] <numus> obviously you are dumb racecar56
[20:08] <sambagirl> numus i do know further more i work at ibm and deal with lenovo daily and i know i know more then you do about vista or windows 7.
[20:08] <racecar56> ...
[20:08] <skinofstars1> racecar56: sambagirl: this is not a windows bashing channel
[20:08] <divyesh> 11
[20:08] <Javier> ﻿Jeruvy: i'm completely sure
[20:08] <SiDi> Guest95678: when you assign a domain name to an IP you need to wait 1/2 days for the DNS servers all over the world to refresh their data
[20:08] <numus> wow sambagirl
[20:08] <Daremonai> I need some UPS software tool for PCE.
[20:09] <sambagirl> tnis isnt bashing i just said windwos 7 = vista
[20:09] <baz_> ziggles, when I mount the sshfs, everything seems to work and the mount appears in nautilus - however when I tryu to access it, it says "permission denied" - i made the local folder in my home directory... what do u think?
[20:09] <sambagirl> if that is bashing so be it
[20:09] <numus> ibm huh.. you work for some arbitrary company and that makes you an expert
[20:09] <The_Rebel> it's odd for my zash, jaunty works for me, yet the Intrepid LiveCD doesn't work.
[20:09] <racecar56> yeah
[20:09] <The_Rebel> me*
[20:09] <md22> every OS has it place
[20:09] <thansen> is there an easy way to turn a livecd into a pxe install?
[20:09] <sambagirl> arbitrary? ibm? laugh.
[20:09] <numus> no windows 7 is not vista.. anymore then windows xp is windows 95
[20:09] <SiDi> sambagirl: feel free to go claim it at #ubuntu-offtopic though.
[20:09] <racecar56> xD
[20:09] <sambagirl> is anyone playing lfs in ubiuntu successfully?
[20:09] <divyesh> why can't we play multiple audio files in  linux
[20:09] <racecar56> idk
[20:09] <racecar56> 1 driver for 1 audio
[20:09] <racecar56> O_o
[20:10] <sambagirl> i asked some specific questions and none have been answered.
[20:10] <momomo> Tharko1978: it doesnt even work for me in winxp, sorry
[20:10] <Javier> ﻿﻿Jeruvy: can it be compiz related?
[20:10] <SiDi> The_Rebel: this can come from better hardware support from the latest kernel, the one used by jaunty
[20:10] <divyesh> but in windos we can play many files
[20:10] <tritium> sambagirl: I answered you
[20:10] <sambagirl> i didnt see it tritum
[20:10] <zash> The_Rebel: SysRq might be disabled on the live-cd
[20:10] <thansen> divyesh: you want something like pulseaudio, or alsa dmix
[20:10] <racecar56> i gtg bye
[20:10] <sambagirl> you play it tritium?
[20:10] <The_Rebel> i'll try an install
[20:10] <SiDi> sambagirl: sambagirl: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3755http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3755
[20:10] <racecar56> btw tomorrow is February
[20:10] <racecar56> cya
[20:11] <sambagirl> thanks sidi
[20:11] <The_Rebel> fresh install that is, my current setup is highly customized..
[20:11] <divyesh> i want amarok and some other game audio
[20:11] <SiDi> sambagirl: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=3755 here sorry *
[20:11] <tritium> sambagirl: I don't play games.  I answered your question about ubuntu being based on debian.
[20:11] <Tharko1978> momomo: OK... Thanks for the help anyway
[20:11] <WIGGMPk> I am running into a problem when trying to uninstall some old kernel images. Can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/112227/
[20:11] <bastones> HI... I'm still having problems with Ubuntu ... sometimes it doesn't register the keys I type such as 'hllo'... I've tried reinstalling Ubuntu with no luck ... I don't have such a problem in Windows?
[20:11] <momomo> !codecs | Tharko1978 this is also a place worth hunting..
[20:12] <numus> barstones you need to be more specific on setup and everything
[20:12] <SiDi> divyesh: you can play multiple audio files with linux T_T
[20:12] <Jeruvy> Javier: um, I can't help with compiz, don't know anything about it, sorry
[20:12] <sambagirl> i have not been able to get enemy territory to work in ubuntu i know others have...anyone in here has had success?
[20:12] <ziggles> baz_: did you try to mount a remote location you dont have access to?   for example, i made the mistake in the past of trying to mount user@someip-35.com:/  when i actually only had access to User's home dir...  user@someip-35.com:/home/user
[20:12] <numus> does anyone know if compiz-fusion is still the "latest" and "greatest" in gui windows dressing?
[20:12] <SiDi> sambagirl: did you try through wine or with the official installer for linux ? it works better than under windows here
[20:12] <s0101> how can i install gtk from the terminal?
[20:13] <_VIM_> "But in windows we can do this or that..." Linux has gotten a lot easier recently, but PLEASE do not compare windows with Linux, Oranges and Grapefruit are both citrus fruits but they are NOT the same...
[20:13] <Rawplayer> !wpa
[20:13] <Kleemajo> Gah ok I just installed ubuntu for the first time yesterday and I'm loving it so far, but there is one main problem that I can't find answers to anywhere. My /var/log file takes up 16 GB for no reason? Is that supposed to happen?
[20:13] <sambagirl> i tried the linux installer.
[20:13] <sambagirl> i will try through windows.
[20:13] <SiDi> _VIM_: is this addressed to me ? :/
[20:13] <sambagirl> umm wine i mean
[20:13] <tomatr> I should stop being lazy and reboot soon. Security update has been configured for like 1-2 days now, still not rebooted.
[20:13] <bastones> numus I've only just got Ubuntu reinstalled and still having keyboard problems on my ADVENT 5611 laptop...even when typing your username the first character didn't register on the screen...I don't know what the problem could be I don't have this problem in Windows which is on a separate partition
[20:13] <numus> sambagirl have you tried vmware ?
[20:13] <tomatr> for kernel 2.6.27-11
[20:13] <momomo> Kleemajo: no, whats the content?
[20:13] <tomatr> should I do that?
[20:13] <_VIM_> does the shoe fit SiDi ?
[20:13] <tomatr> anyone did that?
[20:13] <Javier> ﻿Jeruvy: ok thanks
[20:13] <Guest95678> ppl, what does this mean?
[20:13] <Guest95678> root@marius-laptop:~# /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[20:13] <Guest95678>  * Reloading web server config apache2                                                                                [Sat Jan 31 22:13:36 2009] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[20:14] <FloodBot1> Guest95678: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:14] <numus> barstones do the same keys work on windows...
[20:14] <sambagirl> i use vmware fusion on my macbook but there is a mac version for that so no not necessisarily.
[20:14] <baz_> ziggles, I can access my folder like this with no problem: sftp://baz@172.16.113.134/var/www/roundcube
[20:14] <divyesh> no amc here plz
[20:14] <divyesh> *mac
[20:14] <baz_> ziggles, and this seems to be succesful: sudo sshfs baz@172.16.113.134:/var/www/roundcube /home/baz/RoundCube
[20:14] <SiDi> sambagirl: you need the linux installer and the dvd. Performance will be much better with the linux installer. idSoftware has a pretty big FAQ for linux somewhere on their site, and we have 2/3 forum posts with a lot of advice, you should have a look there
[20:14] <bastones> numus the keys DO work but sometimes they dont when I type them in Ubuntu...I dont have this problem in Windows at all...
[20:14] <sambagirl> ok thanks sidi
[20:14] <Kleemajo> momomo: there are a couple files that take up ~4 GB each, with names like messages.0. I've tried opening them but they just seem to be blank text files
[20:14] <numus> bastones how much memory do you have in your laptop?
[20:14] <bastones> 1GB
[20:15] <tomatr> I should stop being lazy and reboot soon. Security update has been configured for like 1-2 days now, still not rebooted.
[20:15] <numus> bastones ubuntu xubuntu or kubuntu
[20:15] <tomatr> for kernel 2.6.27-11
[20:15] <DigitalKiwi> baz_: what happens when you try without sudo (the sshfs command)
[20:15] <tomatr> anyone did that?
[20:15] <sambagirl> i am using wubi so i have some what of a degredation for things, is that necessisarily true?
[20:15] <baz_> ziggles, but then I receive the error: "Could not display "/home/baz/RoundCube" "Access was Denied"
[20:15] <sambagirl> this isnt a raw ubuntu install perse
[20:15] <momomo> Kleemajo: this was a fresh install, right?
[20:16] <SiDi> sambagirl: this link is a bit outdated but very complete : http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14144
[20:16] <Guest12193> i just bought a wireless keyboard & mouse to so i could install ubuntu on ps3. kboot doesn't recognise the keyboard correctly. if i repeatedly try to associate the keyboard & receiver, it gets picked up but then kboot disables the usb receiver. any ideas if i can add drivers to kboot or should i just keep buyin wireless keyboards until one works :)
[20:16] <baz_> DigitalKiwi, hmm, good point! I will try that
[20:16] <bdelin88> could anyone help me with an apache issue, the apache channel is full of assholes and banned me
[20:16] <numus> sambagirl wubi only installs a ext3 ghost partition ontop of an ntfs system..
[20:16] <divyesh> ya
[20:16] <dede> hello
[20:16] <divyesh> i too did that
[20:16] <Kleemajo> yes, fresh install from the live cd. I'm dual booting with a 20 GB linux partition, 4 GB of which I partitioned off for swap if that makes a difference
[20:16] <divyesh> but it is very slow
[20:16] <divyesh> compared to fresh installation
[20:16] <erUSUL> !ask | bdelin88
[20:16] <sambagirl> ahh ok numus. i would suspect i can save that ubuntu directory and use it with maybe gparted and use it as a real install yes?
[20:17] <tomatr> I should stop being lazy and reboot soon. Security update has been configured for like 1-2 days now, still not rebooted.
[20:17] <bastones> numus Ubuntu
[20:17] <tomatr> for kernel 2.6.27-11
[20:17] <bastones> 8.10
[20:17] <tomatr> anyone did that?
[20:17] <bdelin88> anyone in here familiar with apache?
[20:17] <momomo> Kleemajo: do you mind to pastebinit 'ls -al /var/log'?
[20:17]  * DigitalKiwi doesn't need sudo for sshfs, just make sure that  you've set the owner and permissions on the place you mount it to *before* trying to mount first time
[20:17] <tomatr> Jack_Sparrow: should I update to kernel 2.6.27-11?
[20:17] <momomo> !pastebinit > Kleemajo
[20:17] <bdelin88> apache and virtual hosting?
[20:17] <sambagirl> what is ldconfig?
[20:17] <tomatr> Jack_Sparrow: I should stop being lazy and reboot soon. Security update has been configured for like 1-2 days now, still not rebooted.
[20:17] <svl> When upgrading between versions (in this case from 8.04 to 8.10), is there an easy way to not install certain large packages (for example evolution; I don't use it, and I'm just going to remove it as soon as it's installed again), to save some download time?
[20:17] <numus> sambagirl while ubuntu is loaded up.. it thinks it is on its own ext3 partition.. it is like having a disk iso.. when you mount the iso with daemon tools it thinks it mounts the disk into a drive while it really is only stored in a single structure file
[20:17] <dede> hello what goes on here
[20:18] <momomo> !pastebin > Kleemajo
[20:18] <sambagirl> ahh i see numus
[20:18] <Jack_Sparrow> tomatr I am happy with mine where it is, you still should not have a problem with yours
[20:18] <divyesh> sambagirl
[20:18] <SiDi> sambagirl: check here too, some stuff might help you after install : http://community.enemyterritory.com/forums/showthread.php?p=399431#post399431
[20:18] <divyesh> it is just like another prog for windows
[20:18] <numus> sambagirl the install for ubuntu over wubi is teh same as ubuntu on its own partition... the only difference is.. one lives in a "virtual" disk.. the other on a physical partition.. but the install, drivers, and files are all identical.. that is why you actually download a ubuntu install iso with wubi instead of a seperate os
[20:19] <tomatr> Jack_Sparrow: you're using that kernel?
[20:19] <sambagirl> ahh
[20:19] <numus> samabgirl all wubi does is the same thing daemon tools does... mounts the iso
[20:19] <divyesh> but because of this virtal dist performace is slowed down :P
[20:19] <tomatr> Jack_Sparrow: you're using 2.6.27-11 ?
[20:19] <divyesh> *virtual
[20:19] <numus> sambagirl but wubi is a little more advanced because it fakes a whole file structure
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> tomatr -7 on this box
[20:19] <sambagirl> ldconfig appears to be very important.
[20:19] <bdelin88> ANYONE KNOW ANY APACHE / VIRTUAL HOSTING?
[20:19] <bastones> numus I'm using Ubuntu 8.10
[20:19] <sambagirl> ahh i see numus
[20:19] <numus> divyesh no.. not in any way
[20:19] <dede> so im downloading ubuntu,will it affect me if im downloading it on a mac?
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> !caps > bdelin88
[20:20] <Guest95678> how do I make the hostname resolve to the local IP of the server on my machine?
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> dede iso is an iso
[20:20] <divyesh> numus i am experiencing it
[20:20] <dede> ok?
[20:20] <bdelin88> Jack_Sparrow: jack how do i get unbanned from an IRC channel
[20:20] <divyesh> booting is very slow
[20:20] <numus> bastones my only guess would be that other programs are using up memory and you are in essence "lagging" while tryign to type
[20:20] <The_Rebel> i'd also like to know this, Guest93378
[20:20] <numus> bastones search google for any known issues with your model and ubuntu
[20:20] <Shinjin> Hey, I've been thinking about setting up a linux server for both the experience and some minor uses. It will deal with mainly windows but also linux desktops. I was wondering if there was a way to see what the user was logged in as on the current desktop and authenticate from that.
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> bdelin88 Not by asking in here..  PM me and we can talk
[20:21] <numus> divyesh is your ntfs system fragmented?
[20:21] <Guest95678> how do I make the hostname resolve to the local IP of the server on my machine?
[20:21] <divyesh> yeah
[20:21] <momomo> bdelin88: i believe you got banned because you refused to read the docu and try by yourself in the first place
[20:21] <numus> divyesh that would cause very slow ubuntu boot times of wubi
[20:21] <divyesh> numus i think some problem with y procesor
[20:21] <The_Rebel> i'd also like to know this, Guest93378
[20:21] <Javier> hi, i'm having some troubles with compiz, when i try to play a video in fullscreen in youtoube it won't let me, i know this beacause when in turn off the visual effects i can watch the vids in full screen, can anybody tell me what visual effect is causing this?
[20:21] <The_Rebel> since we're repeating ourselfs
[20:21] <divyesh> it is core quad
[20:21] <dede> ok this is WAYYYY TOO geeky for me, BAI BAI
[20:21] <The_Rebel> lol @ dede
[20:21] <numus> divyesh probably not... try doing a defrag on the ntfs file system..
[20:21] <divyesh> k sure
[20:22] <dede> i like wyldryde better
[20:22] <dede> BAI BAI
[20:22] <raxial> Shinjin:  the who command shows who is currently logged in and where
[20:22] <numus> dede LOL.... i just got back into ubuntu after i got my new 7.2k rpm 320 gig laptop harddrive..
[20:22] <divyesh> but is ubuntu 8.10 suited for multi threading numus ??
[20:22] <The_Rebel> too slow numus
[20:23] <The_Rebel> is there an #ubuntu-singles channel?
[20:23] <Kleemajo> Here's the pastebin:
[20:23] <Kleemajo> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112233/
[20:23] <phirestalker> has the process changed for setting up authentication with libam-blue for intrepid or do I still just edit the config file and the pam config files?
[20:23] <Shinjin> raxial: So it would be possible to put that in a script and authenticate based on that then? Like if who == _____
[20:23] <Kleemajo> There are a few huge files for no reason...
[20:23] <numus> divyesh idk.. considering i am running ubuntu 8.10 over wubi on an ntfs system running windows 7 on a coore 2 duo... and my friends i7 runs ubuntu with no problem.. i would say it has no problem handling it
[20:23] <divyesh> hmmm
[20:23] <web_change> oh
[20:23] <numus> divyesh you have a core 2 quad?
[20:24] <divyesh> yeah
[20:24] <phirestalker> oh and is there a wiki for setting up fingerprint authentication for login?
[20:24] <numus> divyesh that is not a multithreaded processor
[20:24] <raxial> shinjin:  it's a console command, so yes, it can be used in a script.....I've no idea about authentication controls though
[20:24] <divyesh> it is
[20:24] <numus> divyesh no.. the quad's use multiple cores...
[20:24] <divyesh> i think it is unable to utilize processor efficiently
[20:24] <Shinjin> Okay, I'll do some more research using that. Thanks so much for the help.
[20:24] <numus> divyesh the only multithreaded process by intel right now is the i7
[20:24] <divyesh> :S
[20:25] <divyesh> ok
[20:25] <momomo> Kleemajo: i am thinking about a tool which creates an extract of a text file listing lines by frequencies, but i have no idea
[20:25] <numus> divyesh i7 is a quad core processor with multithreaded (which appears at 8 cores)
[20:25] <csana> baz:it works thanks
[20:25] <divyesh> wow
[20:25] <divyesh> which company manufactures it ??
[20:25] <Kleemajo> well, would it be safe to delete those files?
[20:25] <numus> divyesh the only other multithreaded processor out there right now is the phanom II...
[20:25] <rusbert> hi how you guys doing
[20:25] <divyesh> ultraspaec t2 has 8 cores
[20:25] <numus> divyesh the i7? it is intel.. the brand new line
[20:26] <momomo> Kleemajo: what does "wc -l /var/log/kern.log.0" f.e. tell you?
[20:26] <divyesh> oh
[20:26] <numus> divyesh intel i7 920, 940 and 960.. top of the line..
[20:26] <divyesh> intel
[20:26] <divyesh> ok :)
[20:26] <divyesh> but power consumption ?? numus ?
[20:26] <divyesh> i think they get heatd very soon
[20:26] <Kleemajo> They are only logs after all, aren't they?
[20:26] <numus> divyesh core 2 quads are garbage.. i7 is lower power consumption then quad extremems.. built on 45nm technology
[20:26] <momomo> Kleemajo: yes, they are log files, but the sheer size is strange indeed
[20:27] <rusbert> any IT/GEEKs From Tampa, Florida.. im looking to start an it team and im looking for locals..
[20:27] <jaypro> do you guys know where i can find the user manual for 761GX-M754 v3.0C? found it for v1.0, but not v3.0c
[20:27] <divyesh> i read some where that intel is using 30 nm
[20:27] <numus> divyesh and the i7 is actually cheaper to buy then a quad... and the 920 beats the overclocked q9660 (i think that is the model of the high end extreme) out of the water...
[20:27] <obi_> I have ubuntu intrepid, and  cant connect to wpa protected wireless network. it trys to connect and then spits back a differnt password than the one i entered. any suggestions? i have looked around and it appears that this is a problem in intrepid, are there any bug fixes?
[20:27] <divyesh> ohk but it is still not released in India numus
[20:28] <momomo> rusbert: the ubuntu wiki has a list of all local channels (quite likely florida is included)
[20:28] <numus> nope.. still 45nm
[20:28] <numus> divyesh this is why i say. when people try to tell me windows 7 = vista they are dumb.. i do know a lot about computers.. even though i work for the bureau of radiation control in florida
[20:29] <Stag> ubuntu ftw
[20:29] <The_Rebel> zash.. i just tried a fresh install
[20:29] <divyesh> yeah
[20:29] <momomo> Kleemajo: what does "wc -l /var/log/kern.log.0" f.e. tell you. it counts the lines and would tell us if the file really is empty. if it were, you might have to dig a bit deeper
[20:29] <The_Rebel> not sure what else i can test to pin point the issue
[20:29] <divyesh> but hey i think microsoft does the same numus
[20:29] <divyesh> it simply changes the stupid gui
[20:29] <Mrdudecool> Hi, I got a ubuntu disk today and I try to install it and this happens: http://i44.tinypic.com/2j2gaci.jpg
[20:30] <numus> divyesh no.. windows 7 is highly more stable and less memory intensive as vista
[20:30] <Kleemajo> hey sorry, I tried it and thought I was doing it wrong, but that command actually does nothing
[20:30] <numus> divyesh it is the same as windows 95, 98, me, and xp.. all built on the same code.. but each recoded to be more efficent
[20:30] <divyesh> wow
[20:30] <numus> divyesh and Nt, 2000... both built on  off the nt system
[20:31] <Kleemajo> except it screws up my terminal and gets rid of the xxxx$ before the commands
[20:31] <divyesh> Mrdudecool lol
[20:31] <Mrdudecool> divyesh, what?
[20:31] <numus> divyesh vista and 2007 where the first windows since 95 to be built on a new code.. so ya the first had bugs (95 was buggy as hell)  but as happened with 98, windows 7 is the new standard
[20:31] <divyesh> that picture
[20:31] <Mrdudecool> what about it?
[20:31] <divyesh> u took it with camera ??
[20:32] <Mrdudecool> yeah because i had to shut down the laptop as it wouldnt go any further
[20:32] <cyrus__> how do I set the domain name in ubuntu
[20:32] <divyesh> o thanks numus i never knew these things
[20:32] <numus> divyesh i am beta tesitng windows 7 right now.. the os in general is amazing, but windows media player 12 SUCKS...
[20:32] <adaptr> numus: vista built on new code ? are you joking ?
[20:32] <momomo> Kleemajo: what are the fist lines of "strings /var/log/kern.log.0"?
[20:32] <divyesh> Mrdudecool do a disk chesk before installing
[20:32] <numus> adaptr why dont you go to the google
[20:32] <Mrdudecool> a disk check?
[20:33] <divyesh> numus i too have this windows 7
[20:33] <adaptr> numus: the google doesn't like me
[20:33] <divyesh> i am not experimenting on that
[20:33] <sambagirl> i am going to setup a top secret bbs. citadel should work yes?
[20:33] <adaptr> sambagirl: step one would be not telling us you're going to do that
[20:33] <divyesh> Medudecool it checks wether all files are there on th disk or not
[20:34] <Mrdudecool> ah ok, well i did get it sent in the mail
[20:34] <sambagirl> :D
[20:34] <Mrdudecool> so i think it should
[20:34] <numus> does anyone know what hte latest in window decorate for ubuntu is... i am kinda out of touch.. i still remember beryl being the rage
[20:34] <rts> hey all
[20:34] <The_Rebel> numus..
[20:34] <mick_laptop> hi everyone, i'm trying to get telugu fonts to work (and the login screen does work) - but when i login, X freezes. english is fine though :-/
[20:34] <The_Rebel> compiz++ maybe
[20:34] <numus> the_rebel yes
[20:34] <mick_laptop> anyone have any ideas as to what it could be?
[20:34] <numus> the_rebel not compiz_fusion anymore?
[20:35] <The_Rebel> it is
[20:35] <The_Rebel> but this is a different spin..
[20:35] <The_Rebel> you asked for the latest..
[20:35] <The_Rebel> and their not window decorators
[20:35] <The_Rebel> their window managers
[20:35] <The_Rebel> Emerald is a window decorator
[20:35] <numus> same thing to me :)
[20:35] <tritium> The_Rebel: s/their/they're
[20:35] <Kleemajo> momomo: my terminal just spewed out thousands of lines of text and froze on me...
[20:36] <The_Rebel> thanks for the spelling tip tritium.
[20:36] <yoyoned> Kleemajo: what do you tell it to do
[20:36] <numus> tritium.. you are to heavy
[20:36] <numus> why dont you split :)
[20:36] <Kleemajo> I can try to do a screen cap of it, but selecting text makes it just erase the text from the terminal...
[20:36] <adaptr> numus: he's right. why don't you ?
[20:36] <yoyoned> numus: :-D
[20:36] <numus> adaptr do you even under it?
[20:37] <numus> err understand
[20:37] <yoyoned> Kleemajo: what did you type to make it do that
[20:37] <momomo> Kleemajo: so it means the file is not empty or contains bogus data. for the moment i suggest deleting the log files if you need harddrive space. in case the problem occurs you could recome here any time
[20:37] <Kleemajo> I typed the line that momomo gave me into the terminal: "strings /var/log/kern.log.0"
[20:37] <tritium> numus: just stay on topic, please
[20:37] <numus> no sense of humour
[20:38] <Kleemajo> ok, well, they are taking up my entire hard drive so I definitely need to get rid of them
[20:38] <numus> p.s. if anyone was wondering.. if you are running windows 7.. and youo applied orbitz patch to remove the watermark.. you wont be able to install wubi or use any compatibility modes.. just fyi
[20:38] <Kleemajo> I guess I'll delete them and hope for the best
[20:38] <Kleemajo> thanks for the help
[20:39] <numus> alright i am out.. thanks for the help
[20:40] <Kleemajo> uh... one last thing. I'm getting "permission denied" when I try to delete the files. How can I get around that?
[20:41] <yoyoned> Kleemajo: sudo
[20:41] <web_change> ppl, can I get some apache help here?
[20:41] <SiDi> Kleemajo: you need to be root to delete these files. open a terminal, move to this directory (using cd) and then type "sudo rm filename"
[20:42] <defcon1> so if I accidentally installed the server kernal how would i go about removing it?
[20:42] <|chiz|> I'm trying to get a MCE keyboard to work has anyone done it before?
[20:42] <kpblc> hello
[20:43] <DeltaZulu> Anyone having problems with the Xubuntu install?
[20:43] <firewing1> Hi, I'm wondering how Ubuntu handles fglrx kernel modules... Are they precompiled, or do they compile on each user's machine via dkms?
[20:44] <lyrae> how do check if a port is open or closed?
[20:44] <kpblc> can anyone help a noob?) knetworkmanager doesn't allow me to set static ip. it just ignores my attempts
[20:44] <SiDi> Hello, DeltaZulu is having a problem after a fresh 8.10 install. When he boots, the pc hangs in console, displaying "ACK", and he cant go to xorg via startx, it does nothing.
[20:44] <kpblc> and sorry for my english))
[20:44] <momomo> defcon1: hmm, maybe install the desktop kernel, and let grub handle the rest, if you need hd space you can use the package manager to remove the old kernel
[20:44] <durt>  DeltaZulu: No, do you have xorg installed, if not you probably did a CLI only install
[20:45] <DeltaZulu> I used Wubi and did an install inside windows.  I assumed Wubi would install Xorg.
[20:45] <AphisOne> Where would I find the mysql-client headers, or what do I install from the repositories to get the mysql client headers
[20:45] <momomo> lyrae: nmap (needs to be installed)
[20:45] <SiDi> DeltaZulu: it does. I'm more thinking of a GPU driver problem but i really don't know much about this
[20:45] <defcon1> momomo: any suggestions on what to search for in the package manager?
[20:45] <Kleemajo> ah, thanks a ton guys. got it all fixed now I think
[20:45] <lyrae> momomo: thank you
[20:46] <mick_laptop> anyone run a UI that is something other than english?
[20:46] <lyrae> I swear. I have port 80 open. it works in windows. but in linux, outsiders cant access my apache server
[20:46] <mick_laptop> by UI, i mean a locale really
[20:46] <lyrae> and i check my ip tables too. it lookso k
[20:46] <SiDi> mick_laptop: im using Ubuntu french and it's 100% translated
[20:46] <momomo> defcon1: linux-image*generic
[20:46] <durt> Try 'sudo telinit 1' and see if you get recovery mode.
[20:46] <SiDi> mick_laptop: there even is a locale for the region where i'm from :)
[20:46] <Giraffe> i'm trying to get an atheros ar242x card working with wext and wicd, without any results...it tries and fails to connect to a WPA-secured network
[20:46] <kpblc> mick_laptop: i run russian UI
[20:47] <Giraffe> does anybody have any advice?
[20:47] <mick_laptop> SiDi: i've tried german and telugu -- both freeze X
[20:47] <defcon1> momomo: thanks for the help! i think I should be able to get rid of them now
[20:47] <|chiz|> I'm having trouble getting the a custom kernel module to load, modprobe doesn't see that it's there
[20:47] <DeltaZulu> Hmm, thanks for the idea
[20:47] <mick_laptop> only english seems to work
[20:47] <s0101> Hi i need some help
[20:47] <mick_laptop> SiDi: any ideas as to how i can troubleshoot this?
[20:47] <SiDi> Giraffe: are your card drivers ok ? can you connect an unsecure network ? I can get on a WPA network with 8.10 here (with nm-applet tho)
[20:48] <s0101> I have 2 computers connecting to internet through a Dlink 604
[20:48] <SiDi> mick_laptop: absolutely none :( Check Ctrl+ALt+F8 it normally shows the xorg log when xorg is active
[20:48] <s0101> Can i change or setup how much dl speed each computer get?
[20:48] <ozymandias3> can kde 3.5 be installed on 8.10?
[20:49] <defcon1> s0101: you should be able to set that up in your router configuration, thats how mine works at lease
[20:49] <rakudave> @s0101: your router needs to support QoS (quality of service)
[20:49] <s0101> how can i check that?
[20:50] <ozymandias3> can kde 3.5 be installed on 8.10?
[20:50] <ozymandias3> oops, sorry
[20:50] <rakudave> @s0101: if it doesn't, you might give "bandwidthd" a try (software, sudo apt-get install ...)
[20:50] <ozymandias3> didn't mean to re-send
[20:50] <defcon1> s0101: log on to your router, like if you were to change your wireless password or something and there should be a QoS tab or something where you can make that selection.  Check D-Link's site for Q0S
[20:50] <momomo> |chiz|: is it recognized by 'modinfo $module'?
[20:51] <rakudave> @s0101: go to the setup-page of you router (192.168.1.1) and look around. this differs on every router
[20:51] <s0101> i have Dl 604
[20:51] <durt> ozymandias3: Ya, search the forums/google, alot of people have done it.
[20:52] <mick_laptop> :( damn computer froze again
[20:52] <rakudave> @s0101: i just googles it, and your Dl 604 has no QoS
[20:52] <ozymandias3> durt thank god.
[20:53] <|chiz|> momomo: I needed to run depmod -a :(
[20:53] <durt> also 4.2 is supposed to be a major improvment over 4.1
[20:53] <Giraffe> SiDi: i think they're okay...i saw three ways of doing this
[20:53] <Giraffe> through madwifi, ndiswrapper, and then wext required no additional configuration but did require backports
[20:53] <momomo> |chiz|: that would have been my next question ;-)
[20:53] <Giraffe> SiDi: i did ndiswrapper and then the backports one...should i uninstall the ndiswrapper driver?  do you think they're conflicting?
[20:53] <s0101> oh i just saw that is there a way to configure that with ubuntu?
[20:55] <SiDi> Giraffe: well try with a WEP or unsecure network before uninstalling anything :>
[20:55] <ozymandias3> durt I am running fedora8 at work to use 3.5, and I just installed fedora 10 to test 4.2, and it is the least intuative, most asinine DE. nothing works, nothign works as expected, and they get all pissy when you bring up trying to install 3.5
[20:55] <rakudave> @s0101: yes, the tool is called "bandwidthd", but i have never used it, so i can't help you there
[20:55] <ozymandias3> i would rather change distros than deal with 4.1
[20:55] <ozymandias3> the (re-)learning curve is much smaller
[20:56] <ozymandias3> i changed to fedora since or servers are rhel and it is nice to have the similarities
[20:57] <durt> ozymandias3: So I hear, I think I'll stick with my Xfce :)
[20:57] <s0101> thanks for your help
[20:58] <chumbo> while compiling ultrastar deluxe i got this error "configure: error: no Free Pascal Compiler found in /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games" how do i fix it??
[20:59] <joejc> whats a good mail client that works with global menu?
[20:59] <momomo> chumbo: install free pascal in the package manager (search then install ;-)
[20:59] <jef_buntu> hi
[20:59] <chumbo> momomo: thanks ill try it =)
[21:00] <md22> are there any free vector graphics creation applications
[21:00] <dan__> Inkscape?
[21:01] <unop> !info gfortran-4.2 | chumbo,
[21:01] <jef_buntu> i hope someone can help me....I've been trying to share an internet connection from a Mac with MacOS to a PC with Ubuntu 8.10 , but I can't make it work!!!
[21:01] <rakudave> @md22: inkscape, skencil, (scribus)
[21:01] <md22> thanks dan__ and rakudave
[21:01] <ope_> jef_buntu by a router
[21:02] <momomo> unop: maybe fp-compiler
[21:02] <chumbo> momomo: hey do u know the name of the exact package?
[21:02] <momomo> chumbo: i found fp-compiler, just rerun the configure command
[21:03] <beefcircuit> quick question.  when I use apt to try and install git-core it asks for the ubuntu disc, anyone know why that is?
[21:03] <unop> chumbo, ubottu just named a package
[21:03] <chumbo> momomo: kk
[21:03] <momomo> chumbo: used the quick search field above the package list
[21:03] <jef_buntu> ope_: the mac has airport sharing enabled and my PC is a laptop with wireless on
[21:03] <momomo> beefcircuit: and you have net connectiviy?
[21:03] <unop> beefcircuit, because at some point you used the CD and APT still considers it to be a repository (that is chosen over other repositories)
[21:04] <jeeves_Moss> what does "[ 2103.897386] NVRM: os_map_kernel_space: can't map 0xe0100000, invalid context!" mean?
[21:05] <dan__> Oh yeah it means your f***cked!! :)
[21:05] <unop> dan__, language
[21:06] <beefcircuit> unop: would I look in etc/apt to change the ranking or would gnome have a settings area to do this?
[21:06] <jeeves_Moss> dan__, was that direced @ me?
[21:06] <coldsilence27> aspire one atheros wireless card installation?????
[21:06] <unop> beefcircuit, i belieive you can use the "software sources" dialog ... somewhere in the admin/preferences gnome menu
[21:06] <jef_buntu> I'm trying to share an internet connection from a Mac with MacOS with airport to a PC with Ubuntu 8.10 on the wireless NC
[21:06]  * DigitalKiwi thinks at is easier to type than @
[21:07] <jef_buntu> who knows about it?
[21:07] <trouch> hi
[21:07] <yoyoned> beefcircuit: post you /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin
[21:08] <coldsilence27> atheros wireless card installation
[21:08] <momomo> beefcircuit: the preferred way would be to go: system - administration - software sources: untick the ubuntu cd-rom
[21:08] <shadowhywind> does Hardy have a partition limit for a ext3 partition?
[21:09] <Giraffe> re: 15:53 < SiDi> Giraffe: well try with a WEP or unsecure network before uninstalling  anything :>
[21:09] <Giraffe> it doesn't work with any network, that's the problem
[21:09] <shadowhywind> I am trying to mount a 1.3TB partition, everytime i try the console freezes and thats it
[21:09] <guntbert> coldsilence27: that line would make a good google search, but here you should ask a concrete question :)
[21:10] <momomo> shadowhywind: #linux might be glad to assist in checking if 1.3tb is ok with ext3
[21:10] <dan__> By gum, it's busier than Clapham Junction in 'er tonight!
[21:10] <shadowhywind> thanks
[21:12] <SiDi> Giraffe: then yeh you should try other drivers / install methods ;p
[21:12] <poet> is there any way to get ubuntu to detect my USB mouse without rebooting?
[21:14] <LuciferToo> is there a 'lighter' was of running xubuntu other than xfce and the command line?
[21:14] <yoyoned> shadowhywind: try mounting as ext2
[21:14] <Ian00> i understand packages are merged/imported from debian unstable for each release, but I don't understand how package version updates work for ubuntu. Do they try to keep up with debian unstable or how do they decide on updates? What updates get sent back ubuntu versions that are not current?
[21:14] <prince_jammys> LuciferToo: try fluxbox
[21:15] <yoyoned> LuciferToo: checkout crunchbang
[21:15] <noodlesgc> Ian00 they mostly do security updates while working with upstream
[21:16] <poet> is there any way to get ubuntu to detect my USB mouse without rebooting?
[21:16] <LuciferToo> thanks prince_jammys  and yoyoned
[21:16] <Ian00> noodlesgc, it seems like there is a lot more package upgrades than just security fixes
[21:16] <yoyoned> poet: see if it's detected   run lsusb in terminal
[21:17] <poet> yoyoned: it doesn't appear that it is detected, although there are some rather cryptic device names
[21:17] <yoyoned> poet: post the output to pastbin
[21:17] <poet> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112260/
[21:19] <yoyoned> poet: no mouse listed there, are you sure the hardware is good
[21:19] <noodlesgc> lan00 ok, I think this might be what tou want: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[21:19] <owen1> can i install only excel and word from openoffice?
[21:19] <ali__> hi is there a simple side scroller game maker for ubuntu?
[21:19] <Ian00> noodlesgc, thank you
[21:19] <linkinx64> hello
[21:20] <lenny> Hello all
[21:20] <dan__>  Howdy
[21:21] <yoyoned> ali__: supertux
[21:21] <lenny> build error error: linux/config.h: No such file or directory
[21:21] <poet> yoyoned: sorry, got disconnected
[21:21] <lenny> I have kernel-headers installed
[21:21] <lenny> and thoughts
[21:21] <toehio> Im installing using the ubuntu alternate disk and half way through i am prompted to insert the disk "ubuntu 8.1 _interpid ibex_ - release i386". What is it talking about?
[21:21] <ali__> yoyoned : game maker
[21:21] <etech> is it possible to install the vanilla gnome on ubuntu instead of the ubuntu gnome?
[21:21] <MOABY> oi
[21:21] <etech> a more minimalist. installation?
[21:21] <dan__> The install disc Toehio
[21:22] <yoyoned> sudo aptitude install supertux
[21:22] <toehio> dan__: the disk is in the drive!
[21:22] <conde_> were do i post bugs
[21:22] <MOABY> como usar o msn
[21:22] <momomo> lenny: can you pastebin the whole output? (install pastebinit: then $command | pastebinit)
[21:22] <bros> Is the Cell microprocessor considered a 32 bit processor or a 64 bit processor?
[21:22] <poet> yoyoned: did you catch my paste?
[21:22] <toehio> dan__: I hit continue and nothing happens!
[21:22] <abadr> I'm getting a lot of 404s during apt-get update on my feisty box. Are they really taken offline, or is something messed up locally?
[21:22] <dan__> Yeah so open the drive and put it back in computers are dumb@$$
[21:22] <yoyoned> poet: no mouse listed there, are you sure the hardware is good
[21:22] <toehio> dan__: It won't eject!
[21:23] <poet> yoyoned: I've used it with old versions of ubuntu. Also, if it helps, it doesn't auto detect my usb drive either
[21:23] <beefcircuit> momomo: thanks for the tip, "problem" solved.
[21:23] <dan__> Is this desktop or notebook???
[21:23] <toehio> dan__: desktop.
[21:23] <patrik> Hi, I'm having some trouble with my "RT2501USB Wireless Adapter". When I put on heavy load on the interface it dies and I have to replug it to make it work again. Any ideas?
[21:23] <alanbshepard70> Is there a way to take a known img url http://www.mysite.com/mypic.jpg and force it to a file on my computer like localhost/mypic.jpg? A site I visit switched to new icons I can't tell the difference between but if I use my own img I would gain back previous functionality. Could the hosts file be used for this?
[21:23] <dan__> OK so assume you are actually install the latest? Ibex??
[21:24] <lenny> momomo: never used pastebin
[21:24] <toehio> dan__: can i pry it out?
[21:24] <momomo> lenny: sudo aptitude install pastebinit
[21:24] <ali__> hi is there a simple side scroller game maker for ubuntu?
[21:24] <yoyoned> ali__:  sudo aptitude install supertux
[21:25] <jtaji> alanbshepard70: I think you would need to use a proxy like squid
[21:25] <jtaji> !squid | alanbshepard70
[21:25] <dan__> Kinda the prcedure is to stick a paerclip into the tiny hole you'll see on hte front of the drive BUT doing a Ctrl+alt+delete (resart) might be easier
[21:25] <yoyoned> poet: are you using gnome
[21:25] <dan__> paperclip end into the hole I mean
[21:25] <ali__> yoyoned : isnt tht just a game?
[21:25] <jtaji> alanbshepard70: if you used hosts you would have to duplicate the whole site somehow
[21:25] <poet> yoyoned: yup
[21:25] <toehio> dan__: I already did a restart, and im back where i started!
[21:25] <grizlo42> i just did an update a few days ago, and now any accelerated graphics don't work. i have an ati radeon hd 3650, and it used to work fine for all opengl at least when compiz wasn't running, but thats a separate issue. now catalyst won't let it do accelerated graphics, compiz doesn't work, and glxgears show an error
[21:25] <dan__> Oh shoot!!
[21:26] <yoyoned> ali__: yes, isn't that what your asking for
[21:26] <toehio> dan__: no matter how many times i restart it witl prompt me!
[21:26] <alanbshepard70> jtaji: Ok thanks.
[21:26] <jtaji> alanbshepard70: oh here's another idea, you could probably do it with greasemonkey for firefox
[21:26] <dan__> Then the open paerclip is yer only option to get the CD our painful!
[21:26] <dan__> paperclip
[21:26] <ali__> yoyoned : no a game maker so i can input my own sprites n stuff in it
[21:26] <toehio> ok
[21:26] <ph8> I connect to a host with ssh -X (i've also tried -Y) host and when i type echo $DISPLAY I get nothing - is there a package (ubuntu/debian) that i need installed on client/host to enable X11 forwarding?
[21:26] <yoyoned> poet: usb devices should be detected automaticly when plugged in, I don't know why its not
[21:26] <bgt421> Hi all, I've found an interesting bug in Intrepid: If I use my Dell
[21:27] <yoyoned> ali__: google supertux
[21:27] <poet> yoyoned: yeah, I'm never had a problem with this.  Works just find on 8.04 and previous.
[21:27] <lenny> momomo: no such pkg
[21:27] <Pici> ali__: You may want to look into pygame
[21:27] <dan__> OK Toehio then try a fresh install with CD. Have a feeling your CD is faulty.
[21:28] <toehio> dan__: arg!!!
[21:28] <dan__> ..or maybe just dirty! :)
[21:28] <Mood> Hello. Is it possible to remote compute into another Ubuntu box? (not ssh, but something similar to Windows Remote Computing)
[21:29] <dan__> Never got asked 4 CD mid install.
[21:29] <toehio> dan__: can i do an alternate install from the normal desktop cd?
[21:29] <Pici> toehio: no.
[21:29] <guntbert> toehio: are you sure your iso-image was ok? did you test it with md5sum?
[21:29] <dan__> Y U doin alternate install anyway??
[21:29] <Rave1_> Mood as in Remote Desktop   Yes
[21:30] <momomo> lenny: what does 'apt-cache search pastebinit' give you?
[21:30] <masterof14> can someone help me I habe following problem installing the nvidia drivers Nvidia: Can't install (Unable to build kernel module)
[21:30] <toehio> i previusly used it to update a computer from 8.04 (mounting the iso)
[21:30] <Mood> Ravel_: any hints for me to google?
[21:30] <sekyourbox> Whats a good program for ubuntu, which extracts cd tracks and makes them .mp3?
[21:30] <jtaji> Mood: easiest way is system > prefs > remote desktop, and enable sharing on the target machine, then use Remote Desktop Viewer
[21:31] <ineedubuntuhelp> hello all. i need some help with my wireless driver. i have the driver properly installed using the windows wireless driver (ndiswrapper -l brings up that the driver is installed, but i have not blacklisted the backup driver). it seems to be that i am unable to load the driver (iwconfig brings up "no wireless extensions"). does anybody here know anything about installing windows wireless drivers?
[21:31] <Rave1_> Mood like jtaji said
[21:31] <yoyoned> poet: your using intrepid now?
[21:31] <momomo> !rip | sekyourbox
[21:31] <Mood> jtaji: i'm using xubuntu, so i don't have system -> prefs -> remote desktop. do you know what package it is?
[21:31] <skinofstars1> sekyourbox: sound juicer, as is default, just set it to... done
[21:31] <poet> yoyoned: yeah
[21:31] <jtaji> Mood: nope sorry
[21:31] <sekyourbox> Im using sound juicer, it doesnt make .mp3
[21:32] <toehio> i unpluged and repluge in my cddrive
[21:32] <Mood> jtaji: but it's called "remote desktop"?
[21:32] <dan__> sekyourbox seen a file converter in Add/Remove software but doesn't use MP3 methinks. When ya put in a cd SoundJuicer does it all 4 ya.
[21:32] <Mood> jtaji: in ubuntu it's called "remote desktop"?
[21:32] <jtaji> Mood: it's a part of the Gnome desktop
[21:32] <yoyoned> poet: try it with a hardy livecd.  If the mouse works in hardy, but not intrepid, youve found a bug and should file a bug report
[21:32] <Mood> jtaji: ahh, oi. i'm using xfce. i'll have to find an equivalent
[21:32] <ineedubuntuhelp> anybody here familiar with wireless drivers for ubuntu?
[21:32] <poet> yoyoned: will do
[21:33] <dan__> LOve SoundJuicer, it's like "you put a CD in, ya wanna rip it right away yea!" Yeah baby, show me love!!! :)
[21:33] <Rave1_> Mood it may not be a built in on Xubuntu not sure  I don't have an Xubuntu box right now
[21:33] <jtaji> Mood: perhaps the x11vnc package
[21:33] <s0101> hi guys i have a problem with sudo apt-get update
[21:34] <Mood> jtaji: would you recommend remote desktop in practice? or is there really no advantage over ssh?
[21:35] <Mood> jtaji / Ravel_: i need to help troubleshoot a friend's ubuntu box remotely. i don't know whether i could simply use ssh and poke around, or whether i need to install some remote desktop software
[21:35] <momomo> Mood: remote desktop doesnt encrypt the traffic (at all or as good) as ssh
[21:35] <Mood> momomo: so you'd just do all the remote sysadmin stuff using ssh?
[21:35] <jtaji> Mood: I use ssh for all my administration
[21:36] <s0101> i get some text saying
[21:36] <s0101> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[21:36] <s0101> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[21:36] <jtaji> Mood: is your friend running Gnome
[21:36] <momomo> Mood: i would tunnel vnc=remote desktop over ssh
[21:36] <Mood> jtaji: they are running gnome. but i'm running xfce
[21:36] <grizlo42> now catalyst won't let it do accelerated graphics, compiz doesn't work, and glxgears show an error
[21:36] <s0101> i know before that i removed 2 lines in a text file buti  dont remember how
[21:36] <TecnicoDPC> Hello  2  All
[21:36] <jtaji> Mood: you can set up the server on their end like I mentioned, then use any vnc client on your end
[21:36] <grizlo42> i just did an update a few days ago, and now any accelerated graphics don't work. i have an ati radeon hd 3650, and it used to work fine for all opengl at least when compiz wasn't running, but thats a separate issue. now catalyst won't let it do accelerated graphics, compiz doesn't work, and glxgears show an error
[21:37] <balrog__> are the boost libraries that come in the ubuntu repo shared or static libraries?
[21:37] <Mood> momomo: do you think there's an advantage of seeing the remote computer's gui? or should i be able to take care of 99.99% of sysadmin duties over a terminal via ssh?
[21:37] <s0101> can somebody help me
[21:37] <dan__> Anyone know the URI for the nVidia driver? Is it /ubuntu/dists/intrepid-updates/restricted/binary-i386???
[21:37] <jtaji> Mood: you can do everything over ssh, one of the great things about ubuntu is that gui tools don't mess up text config files
[21:37] <Giraffe> hmm
[21:38] <jtaji> Mood: they coexist peacefully ;)
[21:38] <balrog__> s0101: just wait.  in ubuntu, only one package management utility can be running at the same time.
[21:38] <MatToufoutu> hello
[21:38] <momomo> Mood: that would depend on your admin console skills. from far distance i feel that using gui over ssh would be the best option for you
[21:38] <balrog__> s0101: how did you get that error?
[21:38] <Mood> jtaji: ah ok. thanks momomo + Ravel_
[21:38] <grizlo42> can somoene please help me?
[21:39] <Giraffe> SiDi: for some reason network-manager won't even detect the certificate files when i try to open them
[21:39] <Giraffe> what gives?
[21:39] <MatToufoutu> since a couple of days, as i upgraded my kernel (2.6.27-11-generic), after upgrade i was told to reboot as usual, but after reboot i've been asked again to reboot (and again and again if i reboot), anyone heard of a such problem?
[21:39] <rakudave> @s0101: the problem is exactly as the message says: "another programm is using it". this means, you have two install-programs instead of one. (you can only have one iopen at a time, for security reasons)
[21:40] <rakudave> (two open progeams i mean)
[21:40] <MatToufoutu> (and now when i aptitude full-upgrade, it tries to reconfigure it, but fails)
[21:40] <happyhessian> i just installed 8.10 on a 64 bit machine and foolishly clicked on the nvidia driver update
[21:40] <happyhessian> upon reboot x would not load
[21:41] <chronosza> happyhessian: whats the error
[21:42] <happyhessian> i tried running nvidia's *.sh installer and it said that it could not run with xen.  i'm not entirely sure what xen is, how to disable it or whether i want to disable it.  any help?
[21:42] <s0101> just another question how can i connect to another computer on my dlink router remote?
[21:42] <s0101> i have activated remote desktop on the other comp
[21:43] <chronosza> happyhessian: what happens if u do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[21:44] <grizlo42> i just did an update a few days ago, and now any accelerated graphics don't work. i have an ati radeon hd 3650, and it used to work fine for all opengl at least when compiz wasn't running, but thats a separate issue. now catalyst won't let it do accelerated graphics, compiz doesn't work, and glxgears show an error
[21:45] <tarelerulz> I installed Ubuntu 8.10 and it will not see my usb hard drive at all .   What can I do ?
[21:46] <rakudave> @s0101: there is an app in "applications > internet > viewer for remote desktops"
[21:46] <momomo> tarelerulz: what does "lsusb" tell you on the commandline?
[21:46] <skinofstars1> grizlo42: are you using a proprietary driver?
[21:46] <chronosza> tarelerulz: plug it in again, then leave it in and do    dmesg | grep usb   and put the output on pastebin.
[21:46] <grizlo42> skinofstars1: yes
[21:47] <rakudave> @momomo: is lists (ls) everything connected via usb
[21:47] <rakudave> @momomo: ah sorry, i missunderstood you
[21:48] <momomo> rakudave: chronosza's solution is much better, thanks for the hint though
[21:48] <skinofstars1> grizlo42: i had issues the other day with nvidia after the update. my solution was this: disable/remove/deactivate (system>administration>hardware drivers) the driver, restart, re-activate/reinstall, restart.
[21:48] <grizlo42> skinofstars1: ok ill try that
[21:49] <grizlo42> thanks
[21:49] <skinofstars1> grizlo42: it seems that the kernel update doesn't update with the propreitary driver
[21:49] <skinofstars1> grizlo42: good lu8ck
[21:49] <Coggz> Got problems with MSN protocol.. someone please help! Pidgin, aMSN, Kopete etc wont connect to msn using libpurple or msn-pecan
[21:49] <tarelerulz> here is the pint out for dmesg | grep usb  http://pastebin.com/m328d253e I can't find my usb hard drive
[21:51] <chronosza> tarelerulz: is that the latest? why is it registering your input devices now instead of startup?
[21:52] <chronosza> tarelerulz: what file system is on the usb stick/disk? fat? ntfs? ext3?
[21:52] <tarelerulz> chronosza: It is  ext3 on the usb hard drive
[21:53] <chronosza> tarelerulz: its odd, dmesg should have mentioned something about a usb disk and whether it could or could not mount it. yours says nothing.
[21:53] <momomo> tarelerulz: hmm, do you mind   dmesg | pastebinit
[21:53] <BillGates_> Hello
[21:53] <chronosza> tarelerulz: just do a dmesg without grep and see if it mentions anything at the end about the disk
[21:54] <chronosza> tarelerulz: or yeah do what momomo says
[21:54] <BillGates_> 1406 :O
[21:54] <Coggz> Got problems with MSN protocol.. someone please help! Pidgin, aMSN, Kopete etc wont connect to msn using libpurple or msn-pecan
[21:54] <rinsmaster> Awesome, you can even cancel the canceling of the syncing process in Amarok :D
[21:54] <csana> are there any programs for ripping files off cd and dvd (like not only video)
[21:54] <BillHarris> Did anything change on Intrepid around last Monday or Tuesday that might have made an Intel 852GM graphics machine not bring up X correctly?
[21:55] <worre> hi guys
[21:55] <chronosza> BillHarris: u mean you had graphics with intel and intrepid? :-)
[21:55] <rakudave> @csana: depends... try opening the dvd in nautilus
[21:55] <BillHarris> Cute. :-)  Yep.
[21:55] <csana> rakudave, like to an iso file?
[21:55] <chronosza> BillHarris: lucky. my 965GM gives me X but no acceleration what so ever.
[21:55] <BillHarris> It was easier than nvidia, until it stopped working.
[21:56] <BillHarris> chronosza: When it first failed, it went into low-res mode only...
[21:56] <gmap> im trying to read a file in php, but I do not have rights to do so. what must I set the rights to on the file to be able to read it from apache
[21:56] <Cpudan80> gmap: chomd 644 file
[21:56] <Coggz> gmap:  775 or 777
[21:56] <BillHarris> chronosza: now it is _extremely_ slow (minutes or longer to log in), and it brings up a background image on the desktop with no panels.
[21:56] <Cpudan80> Coggz: that would give it execute rights as well
[21:57] <chronosza> BillHarris: ouch. it seems the intel drivers on intrepid are not having a good time.
[21:57] <gmap> what does 644 mean
[21:57] <Cpudan80> gmap: You do want to give it execute rights probably
[21:57] <worre> where can i find smp kernel for ubuntu 8.04?
[21:57] <Cpudan80> gmap: Owner r/w, everyone else read
[21:57] <gmap> ok
[21:57] <rakudave> csana: yes, if i catch you meaning...
[21:57] <Coggz> gmap:  775 or 777
[21:57] <Coggz> oops
[21:57] <Cpudan80> gmap: you really do want execute probably
[21:57] <Coggz> Got problems with MSN protocol.. someone please help! Pidgin, aMSN, Kopete etc wont connect to msn using libpurple or msn-pecan
[21:57] <usser> worre, all the recent kernels have smp support built in
[21:57] <etfb> What steps can I take in 8.10 to reduce battery consumption.  Apart from switching my laptop off, that is.
[21:57] <chronosza> hmmm. i beg to differ. php should be fine as long as apache can read it.
[21:57] <Cpudan80> gmap: 755 is prob what you want
[21:57] <BillHarris> chronosza: I agree.  All the six text-mode consoles (at least the ones I've tried) seem happy, and I can log in from another machine.
[21:58] <worre> mine doesnt
[21:58] <gmap> cpudan80 no execute
[21:58] <gmap> just read
[21:58] <chronosza> giving it execute coull.d mean someone modifying its contents and executing it on a shel
[21:58] <BillHarris> chronosza: any ideas?
[21:58] <Cpudan80> gmap: then 644 is the way
[21:58] <momomo> tarelerulz: you can install pastebinit by "sudo aptitude install pastebinit"
[21:58] <biggerfisch> I have a problem: I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get update" but it keeps giving this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112275/
[21:58] <Cpudan80> chronosza: giving exec does not imply giving write
[21:58] <Rajh> hi there
[21:58] <BillHarris> chronosza: I looked at /var/log/dpkg.log, but I don't see anything that jumps out at me (then again, I'm not a professional sysadmin)
[21:59] <chronosza> Cpudan80: true, but then you would only have to get write access, not write and execure :)
[21:59] <tarelerulz> momomo:  Here is this what you asked for http://pastebin.com/m214aa8c6
[21:59] <Rajh> How to disable 3 mouse button emulation ?
[21:59] <kkb110> Hi, Q. Is it possible to use RPM and DEB repository together using packagekit or something else?
[21:59] <Cpudan80> No
[21:59] <chronosza> BillHarris: Im at a loss of intel drivers.
[21:59] <gmap> im new to linux, why do you do sometimes do chmod ugo = r somefile     or    you do   chmod 644
[21:59] <Cpudan80> It is possible to pull down RPMs and use them - but it is not a great idea
[22:00] <kkb110> aha, ok thanks Cpudan80
[22:00] <chronosza> BillHarris: are u using the intel or i810 driver?
[22:00] <Cpudan80> gmap: ugo = user, group, other [world]
[22:00] <BillHarris> chronosza: Okay, thx.  Good luck with your problem.  I'd settle for unaccellerated graphics right now. :-)
[22:00] <Cpudan80> gmap: It means the same thing as the chmod
[22:00] <Cpudan80> gmap: errr as the chmod with the #s
[22:00] <Cpudan80> I prefer the #s
[22:00] <BillHarris> chronosza: how do I tell, quickly?
[22:00] <Cpudan80> I can never remember all the little abbrevs
[22:00] <_VIM_> 'pull down'? interesting way of saying 'use' ;)
[22:00] <gmap> whats the #s
[22:01] <BillHarris> chronosza: from the CLI
[22:01] <biggerfisch>  I have a problem: I'm trying to run "sudo apt-get update" but it keeps giving this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112275/ .  can anyone help?
[22:01] <Cpudan80> gmap: 4 = read, 2 = write, 1 = exec
[22:01] <Cpudan80> gmap: so for all three, you use 7
[22:01] <Cpudan80> for the other options you just do the math
[22:01] <chronosza> BillHarris: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep driver
[22:01] <jonne> i b0rked my box, and i want to reinstall. how do i do that while keeping my home dir and stuff? my home directory is on a different partition
[22:01] <Cpudan80> so read and exec is 5,
[22:01] <momomo> chronosza: in the pastebinit of tarelerulz is line 302 related to usb?
[22:02] <gmap> how did you come up with 644, just so I can learn
[22:02] <chronosza> momomo: i missed it. where is the pastebin?
[22:02] <_VIM_> jonne: look into Clonezilla
[22:02] <Cpudan80> gmap: so it has to be 3 #s, the first # is for owner rights, the second # is for group rights, the third # is for everyone
[22:02] <momomo> chronosza: no its not, its ethernet
[22:02] <guntbert> biggerfisch: it looks like you told your systenm to find all repositories oon
[22:02] <Cpudan80> gmap: I want the owner to read/write so 4+2=6; I want the group and world to read so 4
[22:02] <momomo> chronosza: http://pastebin.com/m214aa8c6
[22:02] <Cpudan80> gmap: string them together to get 644
[22:03] <guntbert> biggerfisch: it looks like you told your systenm to find all repositories on your localhost
[22:03] <gmap> oh ok cpudan80 you made it very clear
[22:03] <gmap> now i get it
[22:03] <gmap> thanks :)
[22:03] <Cpudan80> ;-)
[22:03] <momomo> chronosza: http://pastebin.com/m214aa8c6
[22:03] <Cpudan80> It's derived from binary
[22:03] <Rajh> Anyone knows how to disable mouse3 emulation via mouse1+mouse2 ?
[22:03] <Guest46010> I'm trying to install MPLAYER, get this message: This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'mplayer' the conflicting software must be removed first. How do I figure out what the conflict is
[22:03] <biggerfisch> guntbert, I saw that but I didnt as far as I know
[22:03] <biggerfisch> How do I fix it?
[22:04] <ortsvorsteher> !sources.list | biggerfisch
[22:04] <BillHarris> chronosza: http://pastebin.com/f1a9d08e3
[22:04] <BillHarris>  
[22:04] <jonne> is there no way of just telling the installer: this is my home dir, use this and don't touch it?
[22:05] <guntbert> biggerfisch: I'm not really good with repos myself, but you could pastebin your /etc/apt/source.lst and we have a look at it
[22:05] <zigovr> hi all, on some distros, the "less" utility has syntax coloring feature, I don't seem to have it on ubuntu, anyone knows if it's enablable ?
[22:05] <biggerfisch> ok just a second
[22:05] <guntbert> *sources.lst
[22:05] <chronosza> tarelerulz: are u using a usb hub?
[22:05] <_VIM_> zigovr: O.o ive never heard of that, sounds cool though, as I am a heavy user of |less :)
[22:06] <zigovr> _VIM_ on gentoo for example, you have it
[22:06] <zigovr> and yes it's very cool :)
[22:06] <happyhessian> i just installed 8.10 on a 64 bit machine and foolishly clicked on the restricted driver update...
[22:06] <_VIM_> ah nice to know zigovr
[22:06] <tarelerulz> chronosza,  Have the hard drive in  usb external drive holder .  no hub
[22:06] <happyhessian> it said that it was installing nvidia 177 but on reboot i got no X at all
[22:06] <biggerfisch> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112277/
[22:06] <chronosza> BillHarris: have u tried reconfiguring xorg again after the update?
[22:07] <gmap> cpudan80, I tried sudo chmod 644 /dev/ttyUSB0 but i get "chmod: cannot access `/dev/ttyUSB0': No such file or directory"
[22:07] <chronosza> tarelerulz: yes but what is that usb chassis plugged into?
[22:07] <happyhessian> i tried a manual installation from the *.sh from NVIDIA but it said it won't work because xen was enabled
[22:07] <momomo> tarelerulz: cant find anything suspicious in the pastebin
[22:07] <elena39> .gr
[22:07] <Schuenemann> hey, I'm constantly getting the "Your session lasted less than 10s" message. I suspect this happens because I have multiple distros sharing the same home dir. How can I solve that?
[22:07] <Cpudan80> gmap: ehhh ...... thats not a good idea to chmod those
[22:07] <happyhessian> how can i get nvidia's driver to work or if not, revert to the default driver?
[22:07] <Jay2> I'm trying to install MPLAYER, get this message: This application conflicts with other installed software. To install 'mplayer' the conflicting software must be removed first. How do I figure out what the conflict is
[22:07] <guntbert> !who | biggerfisch , I almost missed it :)
[22:07] <gmap> cpudan80 but I need php to read it
[22:07] <zigovr> also, on some install of ubuntu, I have bash completion, but on this one I don't , yet the "bash-completion" package is installed, does it need to be enabled in some way ?
[22:08] <biggerfisch> guntbert, sorry about that
[22:08] <zigovr> for example, I like when "aptitude install" get completed with package names
[22:08] <zigovr> how can I enable this feature ?
[22:08] <rakudave> Jay2: run synaptic in stead of add/remove
[22:08] <tiredbones> I'm using distro 8.04 and I'm trying to install Zope3. After i use synaptic to install I can find instruction to continue the installation. Could someone give me a pointer to instructions for completing the install?
[22:08] <Cpudan80> gmap: to read the USB port?
[22:08] <Cpudan80> gmap: what's in the USB port?
[22:08] <gmap> GPS data
[22:08] <gmap> gps device
[22:09] <Jay2> ty. rakudave
[22:09] <BillHarris> chronosza: as in dpkg --reconfigure xorg (I think that's not quite right)
[22:09] <Cpudan80> gmap: Thats going to be a PHP programming type question
[22:09] <guntbert> biggerfisch: np, to my eyes your sources.lst looks fine though, doing a little thinking...
[22:09] <Cpudan80> gmap: Normally you'd open the port on a socket and read the data off.
[22:09] <gmap> yea
[22:10] <biggerfisch> guntbert, I dont know if this make any difference but my system crashed earlier today
[22:10] <chronosza> tarelerulz: i want u to do this. 1. unplug the disk. 2. at a command line type tail -f /var/log/syslog  3. plug the disk back in and note what changes in that syslog file when u do that. try paste any new text that appears into pastebin.
[22:10] <BillHarris> chronosza: better,  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg from http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-how-to-reconfigure-x-windows-system-xorg-server/
[22:10] <chronosza> BillHarris: yes
[22:10] <toader> HI, I am using Kile in Ubuntu. Why does the Editor become uneditable once i click Save.?
[22:10] <toader> it cannot accept keyboard input
[22:11] <rakudave> toader: a write-protected file, maybe?
[22:11] <bamhm182> hey
[22:11] <momomo> biggerfisch: have you done any tinkering with DNS? (i suppose you posted http://paste.ubuntu.com/112275/ before)
[22:11] <Jay2> rakudave what do I look for in the synaptic package manager? can't directly install mplayer from there
[22:11] <chronosza> tarelerulz: u have 5mins before i cant help u. batt dying.
[22:11] <biggerfisch> momomo, none at all
[22:12] <toader> rakudave: no
[22:12] <storrgie> I am trying to activate the GLX 177 driver but every time i click activate it does nothing!!!
[22:12] <bamhm182> I'm trying to get my phone to connect to Ubuntu, I'm trying to get Multisync open, I'm pretty sure I've got it installed, but I can't find it
[22:12] <toader> i am editing the latex file.
[22:12] <guntbert> biggerfisch: it looks as if apt is trying to use something like a web proxy at locahost:4001, did you install anything like that?
[22:12] <rakudave> toader: then i don't know... ^^
[22:12] <bamhm182> where are the programs installed to?
[22:13] <momomo> biggerfisch: does the error still occur or is it a temp thing?
[22:13] <storrgie> I am trying to activate the GLX 177 driver but every time i click activate it does nothing!!!
[22:13] <biggerfisch> guntbert, yes, but I removed it before running this
[22:13] <rakudave> Jay2: try using the "search" function... otherwise you might add the medibuntu-repos (medibuntu.org)
[22:13] <happyhessian> so anyone know how to get around nividia's problem with xen?
[22:13] <biggerfisch> momomo, I just tried it again and got the same message
[22:13] <Jay2> ty, rakudave
[22:14] <happyhessian> what drivers can i use without recompiling the kernel?
[22:14] <guntbert> biggerfisch: aah, and that removal seems to have missed some setting, what was that program?
[22:14] <BillHarris> chronosza: did that, accepting all the defaults except I turned on kernel framebuffering...
[22:14] <momomo> biggerfisch: hmm, have you rebooted in between?
[22:14] <chronosza> BillHarris: tried turning it off and rebooting?
[22:14] <biggerfisch> guntbert, anon-proxy
[22:14] <chronosza> BillHarris: or restarting X at least.
[22:14] <biggerfisch> momomo, no but I did log out and in
[22:14] <BillHarris> chronosza: restarted X (ctrl-alt-bkspc), and the login came up with a black field for text, not white.  Oh, should I reboot instead?
[22:14] <chronosza> BillHarris: no if the driver was working it would work
[22:14] <biggerfisch> momomo, should i erboot now?
[22:15] <guntbert> momomo: I don't like the need to reboot for every occasion :)
[22:15] <BillHarris> chronosza: it's still sitting at username; I suspect it may go to password i a few minutes, if like before.
[22:15] <chronosza> BillHarris: so all u did was update the system?
[22:15] <sambagirl> why is there a sabayon logon option?
[22:15] <momomo> biggerfisch: if you can, please do, yes (i know linux should be better in that regards than windows)
[22:15] <BillHarris> chronosza: all I can remember.  I could reboot into XP to verify all HW is working, but I don't think that's the problem.
[22:15] <momomo> biggerfisch: i know linux should be better in that regards than windows)
[22:16] <biggerfisch> momomo, ok I'll reboot then be back in a minute
[22:16] <momomo> guntbert: i know linux should be better in that regards than windows)
[22:16] <sambagirl> why is there a sabayon user option in user login?
[22:16] <chronosza> BillHarris: u never selected a specific driver or any settings on the display?
[22:16] <petafile> I'm trying to sync my ipod with banshee.  I originally put music on it with winamp in vista, so its windows format.  When I plug it in, it charges, but isn't recognized by banshee, and it's not mounted on my desktop.  What do I need to do?
[22:17] <BillHarris> chronosza: crazy week, but I seem to recall it all working Monday night and then Tuesday I had to reboot for some reason -- I think  I accepted an update -- and it went into low-res mode.
[22:17] <ahmed-araby> how to open "JET database" files in linux ???
[22:17] <ahmed-araby> how to open "JET database" files in linux ???
[22:17] <guntbert> momomo: in my experience rebooting is a) seldom necessary and b) often unsuccessful, so I'd rather fix a problem "in place" if possible
[22:17] <BillHarris> chronosza: no, not that I recall...you mean since upgrading from Hardy, right?
[22:17] <sambagirl> ahmed is that associated with hp printing?
[22:18] <chronosza> BillHarris: oh hold on. u mean u havent successfuly run intrepid in full graphics mode?
[22:18] <BillHarris> chronosza: (I upgraded from Hardy about a month after the official release)
[22:18] <sweetgum> could someone tell me how i can grep the contents within every file in a folder
[22:18] <sweetgum> id rather not use the advanced search
[22:18] <chronosza> sweetgum: cat * | grep blah blah
[22:19] <BillHarris> chronosza: I was unclear.  I've run this machine on Hardy in full graphics since about September and on Intrepid since sometime in November, all with no problems until last week.
[22:19] <momomo> guntbert: i understand (i thought twice before suggesting it and have reasons pro. but theres no need to discuss to end)
[22:19] <rakudave> petafile: the problem is not banshee, but the fact that it doesn't even show up on the desktop. check if the ipod is on "hold" and replug it (sometimes it takes two tries, like my sd-card)
[22:19] <biggerfisch> momomo, ok I'm back and retrying the command
[22:19] <ortsvorsteher> sweetgum: cd /to/the/folder; grep <string> *
[22:19] <ahmed-araby>  jet database files are what MS Access uses ??
[22:19] <sweetgum> chronosza: while im in the folder?
[22:19] <toehio> if my windows partition is on the first parition of the first disk, how do i start it with grub?
[22:19] <chronosza> sweetgum: yes or do what ortsvorsteher said
[22:19] <biggerfisch> momomo, it works now ty
[22:19] <rakudave> peatfile: forgot to say: un-hold the ipod first
[22:19] <biggerfisch> guntbert thank you for your help it works now
[22:20] <tonsofpcs> Intrepid Ibex, told the system to run updates this morning via update manager, it hard crashed (network went down, screen went black, numlock was stuck on).  Any idea what I can check to see what happened?
[22:20] <chronosza> BillHarris: that is very strange. something has changed but i dont think the driver did.
[22:20] <tiredbones> I'm using distro 8.04 and I'm trying to install Zope3. After i use synaptic to install I can find instruction to continue the installation. Could someone give me a pointer to instructions for completing the install?
[22:20] <momomo> guntbert: might have been a missing /etc/init.d/network reload or something like that
[22:20] <chronosza> tarelerulz: 1 min :)
[22:20] <momomo> guntbert: checking the anon-proxy package
[22:20] <BillHarris> chronosza: I thought I found notes somewhere suggesting that someone broke the Intel drivers in a recent upgrade, but I'm not sure where I found that nor if it applies.
[22:21] <chronosza> BillHarris: well as i said i can get X going as long as i turn off all acceleration or "fancy" stuff .anything trying opengl or other.
[22:21] <BillHarris> chronosza: okay; maybe I'll go google a bit...thx for your help.  I may be back.
[22:21] <chronosza> BillHarris: it really is a pain. live CD wont work for me either, does the same thing.
[22:21] <guntbert> biggerfisch: glad it worked out, momomo saved us a lot of time :), still keep in mind that rebooting isn't generally *the cure* as in windows
[22:21] <guntbert> momomo: point for you :)
[22:21] <petafile> rakudave, looks like the ipod actually froze, thanks
[22:21] <BillHarris> chronosza: oh, I did delete compiz...not that I ever ran compiz, but someone said I should delete it anyway, and there was apparently something there.
[22:22] <chronosza> BillHarris: how did u delete it?
[22:22] <biggerfisch> guntbert thank you for your advice
[22:22] <Nitricacid> how do i search what applications are available through apt-get
[22:22] <Schuenemann> hey, I'm constantly getting the "Your session lasted less than 10s" message. I suspect this happens because I have multiple distros sharing the same home dir. How can I solve that?
[22:22] <BillHarris> chronosza: probably apt-get delete compiz, or whatever the command is
[22:22] <guntbert> biggerfisch: yw :)
[22:22] <ortsvorsteher> Nitricacid: sudo apt-cache search ...
[22:22] <sigma_> hey guys. im running ubuntu on a desktop for the first time and i notice i dont have a choice of suspending it, only hibernating. anyone know why that is?
[22:23] <chronosza> BillHarris: ok. i did that too, remove compiz and remove compiz-fusion. um, try boot the latest intrepid live CD and see if it can run your graphics
[22:23] <momomo> guntbert: dont worry, its not about points from my side, you have excellent arguments for your point of view
[22:23] <rakudave> Nitricacid: or via synaptic > status
[22:23] <chronosza> if it can, maybe check the output of your xorg log to see what driver its using.
[22:23] <BillHarris> chronosza sudo apt-get remove compiz, sudo apt-get remove compiz-core
[22:23] <ortsvorsteher> sigma_: add the suspend button to your deskbar
[22:23] <sigma_> desktop as opposed to laptop
[22:23] <BillHarris> chronosza: from my history
[22:23] <BillHarris> chronosza: did that after it failed.
[22:23] <sigma_> ortsvorsteher: i dont understand
[22:24] <chronosza> BillHarris: and? did it work?
[22:24] <ortsvorsteher> sigma_: as default after installation there was no suspend button in the deskbar. you can add a suspend button to your deskbar and use it.
[22:24] <guntbert> momomo: I didn't worry, but its true: you saved us a lot of time , searching and hassle - that I wanted to express with my "point for you" ;-)
[22:24] <sigma_> ortsvorsteher: how
[22:24] <momomo> guntbert: :-)
[22:25] <BillHarris> chronosza: okay; that'll keep me busy overnight :-) (downloading); I installed Intrepid over the 'net.  thx
[22:25] <tonsofpcs> My Intrepid Ibex x64 box decided to hard fail earlier in the day and I would like to investigate why.  Can someone help point me to where ubuntu hides the last-session logs?
[22:25] <ortsvorsteher> sigma_: point your mouse on deskbar, right klick, add applications and search there for the suspend button
[22:25] <nibsa1242b> How do I open up a port in Ibex?
[22:25] <sigma_> ortsvorsteher: everything on my computer, the user-switch-applet, gnome-power-manager preferences, the shut down dialog, everything lacks a suspend option
[22:25] <guntbert> tonsofpcs: nearly everything is in /var/log
[22:25] <chronosza> BillHarris: heh well i got the 8.04 live cd to try see if that intel driver works that shipped with it and the iso was corrupt. 750mb down the toilet, and im paying for bandwidth :)
[22:25] <sigma_> ortsvorsteher: do you mean the panel?
[22:25] <rakudave> tonsofpcs: somewhere in /var/log... can't remember where exactly
[22:26] <wicope> el comando siguiente | gnome-search-tool --path=/home/usuario/Escritorio/carpeta//home/usuario/Escritorio/carpeta/ | me da http://pastebin.com/d3032c56f | también me da el mismo aviso con nautilus-search-tool | tengo el código http://pastebin.com/d608ec6f6 | estaba pensando en esta línea | argv[1] = g_strdup_printf ("--path=%s", quoted_directory); alguien sabe c? que debería de modificar para evitar el aviso con nautilu
[22:26] <BillHarris> chronosza: yowzer!  ouch
[22:26] <ortsvorsteher> sigma_: yes, the panel ... sry
[22:26] <chronosza> !es
[22:26] <sigma_> ortsvorsteher: there's nothing in the add to panel dialog that mentions suspend
[22:26] <chronosza> BillHarris: tell me about it.
[22:26] <BillHarris> chronosza: oh,  I do have an 8.04 CD; should I maybe try that?
[22:26] <Nitricacid> anyone know anything about madwifi drivers and getting them loaded on ubuntu ?
[22:26] <BillHarris> chronosza: oh, they changed X, though, didn't they?
[22:26] <ortsvorsteher> sigma_: hm, i have an german ubuntu running, and here i have one in my distro
[22:27] <chronosza> BillHarris: yeah. but it wont tell u if its the driver or not unless u try a "clean" intrepid boot. I suspect its prob a config issue. maybe get someone here to help you force the intel driver option in the xorg config file..
[22:27] <nibsa1242b> How do I open up a port in Ibex? I need to open up port 3689 for DAAP.
[22:27] <sigma_> ortsvorsteher: i'm on intrepid and like i said everything that normally has a suspend option on my laptop does not here
[22:27] <chronosza> BillHarris: i have to go, ubuntu is throwing its toys about going to hibernate.
[22:27] <chronosza> laterz
[22:27] <BillHarris> chronosza: thx; I've got to go, too.
[22:27] <_VIM_> nibsa1242b: ibex doesnt block ports, your router is probably the one blocking
[22:27] <ortsvorsteher> sigma_: sorry, so i have no idea....
[22:27] <sigma_> ortsvorsteher: can it be my hardware doesn't support suspend? i find that hard to believe, i built it a week ago with brand new parts
[22:28] <nibsa1242b> _VIM_: everything in on the lan side... but I'll go stick the server in the DMZ just to confirm
[22:28] <ortsvorsteher> sigma_: no, i dont think that your hardware will be unable to let you add a suspend button to the panel....
[22:28] <guntbert> sigma_: it might be a problem with acpi, recognition...
[22:28] <war10ck> server irc.homelien.no
[22:29] <momomo> sigma_: your hardware might just be to much of brand-new
[22:29] <happyhessian> am i asking this question the wrong way?
[22:29] <worre> where can i get smp kernel for 8.04?
[22:29] <happyhessian> i'm totally stuck with this nvidia driver on 8.10
[22:29] <_VIM_> nibsa1242b: Ubuntu has the mentality of it's a "Closed House" with no windows or doors, so it does not need any more defense
[22:29] <sigma_> momomo: it'd have the most to do with my motherboard and processor right?
[22:30] <yoyoned> worre: the default kernels are smp
[22:30] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: with which driver?
[22:30] <ros1> Hi.  After about 4 hours of being turned on, Hardy automatically suspends my laptop no matter whether I'm using it or not.  How and/or where would I look to find out why?
[22:30] <happyhessian> i've tried 177 and 173 so far
[22:30] <nibsa1242b> _VIM_:I'm having trouble setting up a DAAP share between two Ubuntu boxen running Rhythmbox. The client doesn't see the server.
[22:30] <momomo> sigma_: motherboard for the most part, the processor chip can be accessed like any old pentium in theory
[22:30] <Nitricacid> is there a terminal command to see which version of hardy i use?
[22:31] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: you are german? you mean the proprieter driver? what is not working?
[22:31] <Slart> !version | Nitricacid
[22:31] <usser> Nitricacid, lsb_release -a
[22:31] <KDesk> When will input transformation be in ubuntu?
[22:31] <sigma_> proc is a core 2 duo, motherboard runs nforce 630 chip
[22:31] <happyhessian> no i'm not really german, it's sort of a heavy metal joke
[22:31] <Slart> Nitricacid: or do uname -a to get kernel version
[22:31] <ortsvorsteher> :)
[22:31] <worre> yoyoned: then explain why my linux doesnt show my second core?
[22:31] <happyhessian> i clicked on the restricted driver update within ubuntu and downloaded 177, upon restart i got no x
[22:32] <happyhessian> then i tried to run an old version of 173 that i still had the .sh for and it gave me a "can't work with xen" error
[22:32] <yoyoned> worre: pastebin /proc/cpuinfo
[22:32] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: do you geht any error logs in xorg.log?
[22:32] <Andy80> hi all
[22:32] <happyhessian> i tried module-assistant as well
[22:32] <usser> worre, how do you figure it doesnt?
[22:32] <happyhessian> it always says that it can't find a screen
[22:32] <ortsvorsteher> !enter | happyhessian
[22:32] <tonsofpcs> gnubuntu: can't find any logs that have timestamps at the time when the system failed (roughly 1300h today).
[22:33] <worre> i cant find any info about the second core
[22:33] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: which device you have? is it a desktop?
[22:33] <Andy80> I use Ubuntu 8.10 on this PC and I can shutdown normally. I've installed Ubuntu 8.10 on my EeePC and I'm prompted to enter my password, to get the authorization to shutdown... why?
[22:33] <yoyoned> !pastebin|worre
[22:33] <usser> worre, as yoyoned said pastebin cat /proc/cpuinfo
[22:33] <worre> i know
[22:33] <mgolisch> happyhessian: ati?
[22:33] <happyhessian> no, desktop with nvidia 8400 (i think...) dual core pentium
[22:33] <happyhessian> geforce
[22:33] <mgolisch> oh
[22:33] <tonsofpcs> found dpkg log... it was operating til 13:30...
[22:34] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: do you have any errorlogs? is there a nvidia driver selected in xorg.conf?
[22:34] <happyhessian> xorg.log gives "fatal server error" no screens found"
[22:34] <mgolisch> happyhessian: try to get x11 working with vesa or nv driver then install the nvidia drivers using the restricted driver manager
[22:35] <Devourer> Hello, I just downloaded some of the Ubuntu updates from the past two days and restarted my computer to finalize them, and now my sound doesn't work. How can I fix this?
[22:35] <mgolisch> happyhessian: please pastebin the complete log
[22:35] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: are in xorg.conf screens defined?
[22:35] <yoyoned> Devourer: check all the mixer levels
[22:35] <ortsvorsteher> !sound | Devourer
[22:35] <bigbrova2> I get this problem on ubuntu hardy heron where My sound will suddenly stop working and will only work again with a system restart. i cant seem to recreate the problem .. and AFAIK never use to happen before although a friend of mine always experience it on his laptop. it can be really frustrating and even embarrassed me once when i was to play an audio file for my Boss at work
[22:35] <happyhessian> the default drivers worked, when i used the restricted drivers manager the whole thing fell apart.  how do i roll back?
[22:35] <Devourer> yoyoned, in the mixer applet or aslamixer, because I turned all of those all the way up.
[22:36] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: why rollback and dont try to fix the problem?
[22:36] <yoyoned> Devourer: either
[22:36] <sigma_> as an aside, acpi -V doesn't return any power usage data and neither does powertop. which is an intel program.
[22:36] <Devourer> yoyoned, I did both.
[22:36] <mgolisch> happyhessian: just pastebin the logfile
[22:36] <happyhessian> it'll be a bit hard for me to paste the log as its on my machine that doesn't have an xserver running...
[22:36] <sigma_> something on my computer is configured wrong... i just dunno what it is.
[22:36] <dreamon> hello. "smbpasswd -a boss" -> Unable to modify TDB passwd: Nt_status_unsuccessful ! Failed to add entry for user boss. Failed to modify password entry for user boss. -> I'm searching for any kind of help.
[22:36] <Devourer> ortsvorsteher, I don't see a File anywhere...
[22:36] <bigbrova2> I get this problem on ubuntu hardy heron where My sound will suddenly stop working and will only work again with a system restart. i cant seem to recreate the problem .. and AFAIK never use to happen before although a friend of mine always experience it on his laptop. it can be really frustrating and even embarrassed me once when i was to play an audio file for my Boss at work
[22:36] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: install pastebininit and paste the log after that
[22:36] <mgolisch> happyhessian: you do have internet on that machine right? its quite easy, just install the pastebinit package and do pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:37] <bigbrova2>  also hen this happeens i find it hard to do a proper restart not that the system would freeze or anything.. but clicking the restart button just doesnt work unless i do a hard restart or i kill x and start from gdm .All of these problems are post Hardy Heron installation. i would really appreciate if someone can help with this
[22:37] <momomo> happyhessian: you just need to call    program | pastebinit on the terminal
[22:37] <Mood> anyone know the xemacs command to show % of buffer?
[22:37] <ros1> bigbrova2: You might need to look at updating pulse audio https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio
[22:37] <happyhessian> ok, gimme a sec
[22:37] <ortsvorsteher> Devourer: which file you are searching for?
[22:38] <dreamon> can anybody help me out of this?
[22:38] <Devourer> ortsvorsteher, the !sound thing you sent me said to double click on the speaker icon and go to File... I don't see a File menu bar thing.
[22:38] <jebblue> bigbrova also I found that I had to go into the volume control and on the Switches tab make sure Audigy Analog/Digital Output was unchecked
[22:38] <happyhessian> http://pastebin.com/f6b3e0a5
[22:39] <Devourer> jebblue, you solved my problem.
[22:39] <jebblue> dreamon maybe run as sudo?
[22:39] <Devourer> jebblue, thank you.
[22:39] <jebblue> Devourer np
[22:39] <dan__> Anyone tried Trisquel?
[22:39] <momomo> Mood: try #xemacs
[22:40] <ortsvorsteher> !anyone | dan__
[22:40] <guntbert> sigma_: as for powertop: unplug you AC (if on a notebook :)
[22:40] <Mood> momomo: already in there. only 5 members :-p
[22:40] <bigbrova2> ros1 jebblue: thanks guys am trying your tips
[22:40] <slimjimflim> hi, anybody know of a good app for burning an avi to dvd?
[22:40] <dreamon> jebblue: I Did as sudo .. Same problem like this man. http://www.mail-archive.com/samba@lists.samba.org/msg97779.html
[22:40] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: your ubuntu is a server installation?
[22:40] <dougl> slimjimflim, k3b
[22:40] <dougl> ?
[22:40] <happyhessian> it shouldn't be--i installed it from a desktop cd
[22:40] <mic_lovin> can't see samba shares from one ubuntu machine to another
[22:41] <sigma_> guntbert: I'm not - my problem is i can't suspend, and the problem with powertop is that it should at least give me a Wattage number, but it is nto
[22:41] <slimjimflim> dougl, i use that for data cds, is it good for authoring multiple avis into a dvd?
[22:41] <jebblue> dreamon hmm dunno
[22:41] <slimjimflim> will it play back nice?
[22:41] <mgolisch> happyhessian: is it pcie?
[22:41] <dan__> Lol oh err... thats me sorted out then....
[22:41] <happyhessian> you mean the geforce?
[22:42] <guntbert> sigma_: no, powertop will give wattage data only when running on battery
[22:42] <happyhessian> i think so but i'm not sure
[22:42] <Limitt> what is the stongest program available for data recovery on linux ext2 / 3 filesystems?
[22:42] <slimjimflim> anybody ever used DeVeDe?
[22:42] <sigma_> guntbert: oh. ok then.
[22:42] <Slart> Limitt: testdisk is one.. don't know if it's the "stongest"
[22:42] <mgolisch> happyhessian: you have multiple graphics cards?
[22:42] <ros1> Does anyone know how scheduled power management tasks like suspend are stored?  I'm having a prob with unexpected suspends.
[22:43] <dan__> Oh there someone goes again using "anybody" tut, tut
[22:43] <mgolisch> happyhessian: the log looks like you have a builtin onboard nvidia chip and a extension card with nvidia too
[22:43] <mick_laptop> Limitt: what files do you want to recover?
[22:43] <Limitt> thanks im looking to recover some files from something I partitioned over and wrote an os to
[22:43] <dreamon> sry.. "dunno" ?
[22:43] <mgolisch> happyhessian: probably thats what drives it crazy
[22:43] <mick_laptop> Limitt: text, images, video?
[22:43] <happyhessian> i have an onboard card and a pci card (don't know if it's pcie)--the monitor is plugged in to the add-on card
[22:43] <mic_lovin> !samba
[22:43] <Limitt> mp3s (dont want to have to rip them again ) pictures.. etc
[22:43] <ortsvorsteher> happyhessian: did you uninstalled xserver-xgl?
[22:43] <happyhessian> not sure, i'll check
[22:43] <pinguino> how do i make ubuntu boot to commandline and not load the gui by default?
[22:44] <dan__> I'm using Trisquel, it's lovely but......
[22:44] <mick_laptop> Limitt: ok, that should work w/ testdisk. videos are more difficult
[22:44] <guntbert> sigma_: I still think its an acpi problem, but the missing power data have nothing to do with that,
[22:44] <mgolisch> happyhessian: try adding the busid option to the dveice section to tell it which one you want
[22:44] <Limitt> will i get the filenames back?
[22:44] <happyhessian> don't have it installed
[22:44] <Limitt> or just the files?
[22:44] <mick_laptop> especially .mts (AVCHD/H.264)
[22:44] <jebblue> dreamon hehe slang for don't know
[22:44] <mick_laptop> Limitt: no
[22:44] <sigma_> guntbert: any idea what kind of stuff i should check?
[22:44] <yoyoned> pinguino: every reboot or just once
[22:44] <sigma_> guntbert: cat this and dog that, you know
[22:44] <LuciferToo> what are my hard disks accessible as on ubuntu?
[22:44] <Limitt> ill have to rename them all? oh noez
[22:44] <dreamon> jebblue: Ok, thanks
[22:44] <LuciferToo> i dont have a /deb/hda or anything
[22:44] <mgolisch> happyhessian: like Option "Busid" "2:0:0" to the device section, then restart x11 and see if that helps
[22:44] <happyhessian> i'd get the bus id from lspci ?
[22:45] <Slart> Limitt: if you've installed an os on top of it I doubt you'll find much to recover
[22:45] <pinguino> yoyoned: every reboot
[22:45] <dan__> ....screen res is not great. :(
[22:45] <yoyoned> LuciferToo: look in /media
[22:45] <Limitt> well heres the deal
[22:45] <momomo> LuciferToo: maybe /dev/sda
[22:45] <Limitt> it was a real big partition
[22:45] <LuciferToo> there is a /dev/sda
[22:45] <mick_laptop> Limitt: but it has the embedded info, so amarok etc will still have the names
[22:45] <Limitt> might not of overwrote the exact area because i had multiple partitions on a 160gb drive
[22:45] <momomo> LuciferToo: thats the equivalent of /dev/hda in your system
[22:46] <mick_laptop> you could write something that will rename the file based on the tag
[22:46] <LuciferToo> i want to run smartctl on it
[22:46] <PC_Nerd> Hi, how can I reformat sda1(windows) and reinstall windows on it without having it rewrite over grub?  will I have to boot from disc and reinstall grub over the windows installation once im finished?
[22:46] <Limitt> and made one big partiton .. i thougt i backed everything up but it didnt copy properly to my ntfs drive
[22:46] <Slart> Limitt: very possible.. give it a try and see what you find.. but expect a lot of hard work.. it won't be "save *.mp3 in this folder"
[22:46] <LuciferToo> oh wait, i forgot to sudo
[22:46] <mick_laptop> that would actually be trivial w/ perl
[22:46] <Limitt> just made a shortcut to the folder i no longer have
[22:46]  * LuciferToo trouts himself
[22:46] <oomkiller> anyone familar with UFW?  I am trying to port forward and can't get the syntax right
[22:46] <yoyoned> pinguino: uninstall gdm.  It will log in to terminal.  then if you want gui, run startx
[22:46] <Limitt> would that be of any use if I knew the folder?
[22:46] <aerosolapple> hey im having trouble with my radeon 4800 hd card. when i boot up into ubuntu,
[22:46] <guntbert> sigma_: have a look into /proc/acpi, (that are no real files, you might read them better not from the gui)
[22:47] <Dante123> I download themes that say they are gtk 2  some install okay, others say I am missing something.  Anything I need to download to get most themes working in Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:47] <aerosolapple> it displays the loader, but after that it wont displayt the login manager
[22:47] <Andreino1970> !list
[22:47] <Limitt> so the best program is what was recommended earlier?
[22:47] <Limitt> wat was that again?
[22:47] <mgolisch> happyhessian: did that work?
[22:47] <mic_lovin> i just installed ubuntu ... i want to su to root, i type su root, it asks for a pw...i put in MY pw and get an auth failure ... what's the default root pw?
[22:47] <yoyoned> PC_Nerd: windows will overwrite the MBR.  Theres not much you can do about that
[22:48] <Slart> !root | mic_lovin
[22:48] <mgolisch> mic_lovin: there is none
[22:48] <Slart> !sudo | mic_lovin
[22:48] <bigbrova2> 23:37 < jebblue> bigbrova also I found that I had to go into the volume control and on the Switches tab make sure Audigy Analog/Digital Output was unchecked
[22:48] <sigma_> guntbert: so what, cd /proc/acpi, ls?
[22:48] <bigbrova2> that dones work
[22:48] <rsc-> mic_lovin, type "sudo ls" to do "ls" as root.
[22:48] <aerosolapple> PC_Nerd: Try installing virtualbox on ubuntu and then installing windows on a virtualbox
[22:48] <rsc-> mic_lovin, you can do "sudo bash" to get a shell as root, if that's what you want
[22:48] <PC_Nerd> ok, so how then would I reinstall grub, or better still can I simply "backup" the current Grub settings and rewrite it back into the MBR once windows has rewritten it (linux is on sda5 or something)
[22:48] <happyhessian> that's the right syntax?
[22:48] <Slart> mic_lovin: ubuntu is designed to use sudo/gksudo to do root tasks.. check the man pages for more options
[22:48] <Limitt> what was the name of that program again?
[22:48] <Dante123>  I download themes that say they are gtk 2  some install okay, others say I am missing something.  Anything I need to download to get most themes working in Ubuntu 8.10?
[22:48] <guntbert> sigma_: yes, and instead of "cat and dog" you might like to use the program 'less'
[22:49] <Limitt> my chat is real glitchy when I scroll
[22:49] <PC_Nerd> * Id prefer to have windows on sda1 for the moment, dont want to play with virtualisation just yet
[22:49] <bigbrova2> and the ubuntu pulse audio wiki was of no help
[22:49] <jebblue> bigbrova dones ? like doesn't ?
[22:49] <bigbrova2> doesn't
[22:49] <jebblue> bigbrova ah
[22:49] <mic_lovin> boom say wu?
[22:49] <sigma_> guntbert: well, this is interesting. cat /proc/acpi/sleep returns "S0 S1 S4 S5"
[22:49] <Limitt> file recovery programs that are real good on linux
[22:49] <mgolisch> happyhessian: what is the right syntax?
[22:49] <Limitt> name your fave please
[22:49] <sigma_> i notice S3 is missing. and that's what suspend is, isn't it?
[22:49] <sigma_> and i didn't even know there was a S5...
[22:50] <bigbrova2> this whole pulse audio business was a big mistake
[22:50] <mic_lovin> so if i want ot use a gnome editor to edit a file that is owned by root, i cant.  can that be right?
[22:50] <jebblue> yep
[22:50] <bigbrova2> its just not ready for prime time
[22:50] <ros1> bigbrova2: try this link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578
[22:50] <mgolisch> mic_lovin: gksu gedit file
[22:50] <rsc-> sigma_, mine says S0 S3 S4 S5 :p
[22:50] <sigma_> rsc-: and yours can suspend?
[22:50] <Limitt> ....?
[22:50] <Slart> mic_lovin: several ways to do that.. EDITOR=gedit sudoedit /whateever/file/you/want/to.edit
[22:51] <yoyoned> mic_lovin: sudo gedit /path/to/file
[22:51] <jebblue> bigbrova it's a good concept kind of like Java but easier to use, it just needs more debugging, tall order with such a variety of machines - I think it is getting better
[22:51] <Slart> mic_lovin: or gksudo gedit file.. but I think sudoedit is the safest way.. not that I've had any problems usind gksudo gedit.. but it might (once every ten years or so) mess things up
[22:51] <rsc-> sigma_, yep. i believe that's why i have s3 there
[22:51] <yoyoned> mic_lovin: or gksu gedit
[22:51] <_VIM_> It's Gksu gedit
[22:51] <mgolisch> dont use sudo with graphical apps
[22:51] <mgolisch> use gksu
[22:51] <aerosolapple> PC_Nerd: Just a thought. it works pretty well on mine. The only problem is getting ubuntu to display through my gfx card =(
[22:51] <jebblue> oops I meant Jack not Java
[22:51] <Slart> yoyoned: never sudo a gui program
[22:51] <Slart> !gksudo | yoyoned, mic_lovin
[22:51] <guntbert> sigma_: I'm not good with acpi myself, but  I have S0 S3 S4 S5 too, try googling for 'ubuntu acpi supend'
[22:51] <sigma_> rsc-: and you are on a desktop?
[22:52] <rsc-> sigma_, HP laptop sir
[22:52] <bigbrova2> i work in a school where we give ubuntu laptops to our students and its my job to configure it for them .. u can image the pain of having to tell them to restart their system everything this happen .. many are new to linux
[22:52] <mic_lovin> ro-kay
[22:52] <Slart> !who | bigbrova2
[22:52] <rsc-> lol, pulseaudio issues? :b
[22:52] <happyhessian_> ok, sorry i lost my connection there for a second
[22:53] <sigma_> !tab
[22:53] <jebblue> bigbrova agreed, there is a pulseaudio fix or troubleshooting guide, use Google
[22:53] <rsc-> bigbrova2, heron or intrepid?
[22:53] <bigbrova2> ubottu:  well its more of a rant
[22:53] <etoo> hey
[22:53] <etoo> how are you
[22:54] <etoo> please help
[22:54] <nibsa1242b> Any good guides for running DAAP server on Intrepid?
[22:54] <happyhessian_> i'm getting the same "no screens" error but i think i may have changed the xorg.conf file with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg in an attempt to get it to roll back
[22:54] <happyhessian_> should nvidia-settings should get me the right xorg.conf file?
[22:54] <yoyoned> !ask|etoo
[22:54] <bigbrova2> rsc-: heron although am basing the new laptop image in ibex hope that works better
[22:54] <jebblue> yoyoned thanks I couldn't remember how to do that
[22:54] <happyhessian_> which i could then add Option "BusID"  "02:00.0" ?
[22:54] <mic_lovin> i get some wierd errors, but gksudo gedit /file does eventually work
[22:55] <rsc-> bigbrova2, I heard the pulseaudio implementation in Intrepid is somewhat better. I'm stuck with Hardy myself so I'm not sure :p
[22:55] <D3RGPS31> Is there a way to hide window boarders in gnome
[22:55] <moddinati> hey i am having some trouble getting an apple isight web-cam working on my system, anybody have experience in this area
[22:55] <Slart> D3RGPS31: I guess you can use a theme that has really small borders, or none at all
[22:55] <perillux> How do I determine what filesystem an MP3 player I have is using?
[22:55] <etoo> :(
[22:56] <glymph> D3RGPS31: you can define some applications as having no window decorations in compiz config settings manager, iirc
[22:56] <Slart> moddinati: web cams in ubuntu is a bit of touch and go.. sometimes they work.. sometimes they don't.. sometimes they work in one version but not in the next
[22:56] <jebblue> etoo what's your question
[22:56] <zcat[1]> can't get nvidia drivers installed. nvidia-glx-177 wants to remove all of the other x stuff :(
[22:56] <etoo> ı don't understand me
[22:56] <bigbrova2> rsc- maybe its time to give another distro a chance .. fedora10 comes to mind
[22:56] <Slart> !webcam | moddinati
[22:56] <zcat[1]> !nvidia
[22:56] <kentb> perillux: the mount command might give you a quick look
[22:56] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: how does your xorg.conf look like?
[22:56] <D3RGPS31> glymph: yay compiz
[22:56] <yoyoned> perillux: cat /proc/mounts       Most are vfat
[22:56] <vigo_> what?
[22:56] <moddinati> thanks. I read the links then be back
[22:57] <happyhessian_> mgolisch: my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/f739bf454
[22:57] <perillux> yoyoned: what if it isn't mounted yet?
[22:57] <arooni-mobile> how do i make:  wget -r http://169.254.169.254/latest/user-data ..... safe to ./user-data instead of ./169.254.169.254/latest/user-data ?
[22:57] <jebblue> bigbrova you can try filing a bug on launchpad since it happens on all your machines, someone else may have seen it for that type of machine
[22:58] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  Here's my .asound.rc http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[22:58] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: strip the zeros from the busid option the value should be "2:0:0"
[22:58] <happyhessian_> ok
[22:58] <yoyoned> perillux: plug it in and it should automount
[22:59] <VioletsPie> anyone here know how to stop the squiggly lines in abiword?
[22:59] <happyhessian_> startx still gives me the same error, i'm telling it to reboot...maybe it'll help
[22:59] <Slart> VioletsPie: it sounds like some kind of spell check
[22:59] <Slart> VioletsPie: check preferences or such
[22:59] <biouser> full screen flash video is jerky and sound stops every 5 seconds or so for about .5 seconds each time.  And to esacpe out of full screen it takes about 5 seconds to register on this 2gig mem dual-core
[23:00] <VioletsPie> oh i figured it out, "check grammar while you type"
[23:00] <VioletsPie> i had spelling off.
[23:00] <cvx> anyway i can install ET x86 on 64bit ?
[23:00] <rsc-> biouser, flash 9's fullscreen is just really wonky under linux
[23:00] <biouser> anyone got an idea of what I should look into to fix the full screen video on this machine with and ATI radeon?
[23:00] <VioletsPie> cool
[23:00] <VioletsPie> thanks
[23:00] <happyhessian_> mgolisch: still nothing
[23:00] <Slart> cvx: yes, I think so
[23:00] <biouser> rsc- I actually have the package for 10
[23:00] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: can you post the current logfile?
[23:00] <cvx> it says... cannot install on glibc2.0 linux
[23:00] <Slart> cvx: 64-bit ubuntu can run 32bit apps.. it's usually the libraries that create problems
[23:00] <rsc-> biouser, oops. guess it wasnt totally fixed :P
[23:00] <cvx> whats the apt-get
[23:01] <cvx> to get the libz
[23:01] <whatev> why arent you allowed to login as root in ubuntu?
[23:01] <biouser> rsc- I think it more has to do with my video card drivers
[23:01] <ortsvorsteher> !sudo | whatev
[23:01] <biouser> rsc- everything is fine on my laptop...
[23:01] <Slart> !root | whatev
[23:02] <biouser> rsc- I used to have proprietary drivers but now I don't have any yet with jaunty I guess
[23:02] <happyhessian_> while i was talking to you i had already told it to install 180 so you'll see that there http://pastebin.com/f6894043d
[23:02] <Slart> whatev: afaik it's a design choice.. you're not supposed to log in as root.. use sudo for root tasks.. we don't want the mess that windows is finally getting out of
[23:02] <frog_> hi, i try to play with firestarter. is there no possibility to set the inbound traffic policy as restrictive by default?
[23:02] <rsc-> there should be frog_
[23:03] <rsc-> just look around
[23:03] <Slart> frog_: you can turn it off... restrictive enough?
[23:03] <guntbert> arooni-mobile: look at "man wget", I *think* its wget -nH ...
[23:03] <whatev> i just dont get why you cant login as root if you can sudo -i to get a root shell once you're in anyway
[23:04] <frog_> Slart: rsc- i see only this possibility for outbound traffic
[23:04] <ortsvorsteher> whatev: you can get a root shell when you are logged in. but, there is no need.
[23:04] <bmorris> i did something stupid accidentally removed my /etc/apache2 folder... How would I restore the default config files?
[23:04] <skinofstars1> whatev: you can also set up a seperate root user if you prefer
[23:04] <Slart> whatev: you can log in as root... it's just disabled
[23:05] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: it seems to ignore the Busid option for some reason does it now have the value "2:0:0" ?
[23:05] <meoblast001> hi
[23:05] <meoblast001> ever since i upgraded to Intrepid, none of my Crystal Space apps have been able to make sound.... why?
[23:06] <Slart> whatev: for a good reason.. running as root isn't cool or more powerful.. just makes your machine more vulnerable
[23:06] <happyhessian_> it has 2:0.0 (that's what lsmod showed) should it be both colons (2:0:0)
[23:06] <adaptr> no
[23:06] <whatev> Slart what do you mean you can login as root but it's disabled?
[23:06] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: yeah
[23:07] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: 2:0:0 << like that
[23:07] <evilGUI> Why would you need to ever login as root? If you ever needed root you could just use recovery mode
[23:07] <happyhessian_> tried it
[23:07] <whatev> slart why is running as root more dangerous than running sudo -i to get a root shell? can't they do teh same amount of damage
[23:07] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: still same?
[23:07] <yownanymous> you shouldn't need to log in root
[23:08] <happyhessian_> i think so, startx should be enough of a test right?
[23:08] <kitche> whatev: yes but sudo can log
[23:08] <Slart> whatev: ok.. say you log in as root.. if you open the system monitor in system, administration.. how many processes do you have running there?
[23:08] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: yeah
[23:08] <happyhessian_> then nothing
[23:08] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: very odd
[23:08] <happyhessian_> it's funny, the log writes the busid as @02:0:0
[23:08] <happyhessian_> should i put that in or that's already irrelevant?
[23:09] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: try it
[23:09] <mgolisch> maybe it needs the leading zero
[23:09] <Slart> whatev: you don't have to actually do that.. I can tell you there are lots of processess.. right now a process started by you can't do a lot of damage to the system.. with me so far?
[23:09] <mgolisch> not sure didnt have to use that in a long time
[23:09] <mgolisch> :)
[23:09] <happyhessian_> sorry, it's 0@2:0:0
[23:09] <tenang> so who knows the apt get for nvidia 6200 graphics card and how to set resolution to 1200?
[23:09] <happyhessian_> ok, let's seee...
[23:09] <whatev> slart kinda
[23:09] <bmorris> Does anybody know how to restore /etc/apache2
[23:09] <Slart> whatev: so if you run openoffice, firefox or whatever.. they can't wipe the hard drive..
[23:09] <tenang> i think the apt get i need is driver 169 or somtn
[23:10] <ortsvorsteher> !details | tenang
[23:10] <whatev> i cant login as root  because theres no passwodr for root
[23:10] <Slart> whatev: but if you login as root.. all those processess will be able to do *everything* on your system..
[23:10] <happyhessian_> mgolisch: i still get no screens
[23:10] <happyhessian_> what does that even mean, "no screens?"
[23:10] <whatev> slart ah i see
[23:10] <Slart> whatev: firefox will be able to edit your system files.. openoffice can wipe the hard drive etc..
[23:10] <Slart> whatev: so you login as a limited user and use sudo to just run that one process that needs as root
[23:10] <momomo> bmorris: aptitude reinstall $package, or download the package and hand pick the files you need
[23:11] <tenang> i need latest driver for nvidia 6200 for intrepid ibex and i need to set resolution to 1200x1200 can anyone help?detailed enuf?
[23:11] <happyhessian_> i read on this forum  http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=114854 that the busid is supposed to be in hex but for 2 the hex and dec representations are the same
[23:11] <tenang> i dont know what to do and my googlefu isnt strong enuf
[23:11] <whatev> how would open office be able to whipe my harddrive though
[23:11] <drdozer> I've been running Jaunty for a  day now
[23:11] <ortsvorsteher> tenang: are you using a proprieter driver?
[23:11] <cvx> man,
[23:11] <drdozer> the graphics drivers for my card seem much more stable
[23:11] <tenang> u mean the default drivers?
[23:11] <Slart> whatev: software bug? a nasty office document with a macro?
[23:11] <momomo> whatev: if you told it with a macro it would ;-)
[23:11] <cvx> any way i can get ET to run on 64bit linux?
[23:11] <cvx> This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown
[23:11] <cvx> (tried to run setup)
[23:11] <cvx> thats what it says
[23:11] <guntbert> !jaunty | drdozer
[23:11] <FloodBot1> cvx: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:12] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: try "PCI:02:0:0" as the value
[23:12] <tenang> ort u mean the default drivers?
[23:12] <happyhessian_> ok
[23:12] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: if that doesnt work i dont know, i would have to google then
[23:12] <mgolisch> :)
[23:12] <ortsvorsteher> tenang:  system -> system preferences -> hardware drivers. are there any activated?
[23:12] <tenang> yah
[23:12] <whatev> ok how come i have a root entry in /etc/passwd with a /bin/bash shell by default? i thought root accounts were disabled
[23:12] <tenang> 167
[23:12] <tenang> i need 169 but its not there
[23:12] <Dan9311> Hello
[23:12] <Slart> whatev: there is a login shell but no passwoed hash
[23:12] <Dan9311> Can someone help me?
[23:12] <happyhessian_> no screens found
[23:13] <guntbert> !ask | Dan9311
[23:13] <rsc-> whatev, check out /etc/shadow.
[23:13] <c_malloc> vivastreet
[23:13] <happyhessian_> i wonder if it's a problem because my xorg isn't updated--i did a fresh install today of 8.10 so it's a couple months behind
[23:13] <happyhessian_> it doesn't really make sense but i guess it could impact it somehow
[23:14] <ortsvorsteher> tenang: are you able to set your resolution? system -> settings -> resolution?
[23:14] <ziggles> is it possible to source .profile each time i load a terminal?  or is there some way i can automatically do this so i dont have to type source .profile ??
[23:14] <Dan9311> My audio does not work on Ubuntu, how do I fix it?
[23:14] <Slart> !details | Dan9311
[23:14] <adaptr> ziggles: presuming the terminal starts bash, include source ~/.profile in your bashrc
[23:14] <rsc-> ziggles, why not put it in your .bashrc?
[23:15] <ziggles> adaptr: thank you again... 2x today :)
[23:15] <BlackZ> Reboot,laters.
[23:15] <Dan9311> I have a problem with audio, Im running ubuntu 8.10, When I try to play a video on youtube i cant hear it. I should be able to. How do I fix this?
[23:16] <Slart> Dan9311: do you get sound from other sources than flash?
[23:16] <bmorris> momomo, that doesn't regenerate my config files though..
[23:16] <whatev> rsc- /etc/shadow just shows a ! where the password would go for root. what does that mean? just 'no password'?
[23:16] <Dan9311> Slart: I don't get audio from any program
[23:17] <StuffAndMore> ter.com
[23:17] <ziggles> if i'm editing the .bashrc should i just give it the command "source .profile" and each time i load the term it executes that?
[23:17] <Slart> Dan9311: if you open the sound preferences dialog in system, preferences, sound, are you using pulseaudio or alsa?
[23:17] <jimmy51_home> what command can i run to see my running kernel ver?
[23:17] <Slart> jimmy51_home: uname -a
[23:17] <ziggles> jimmy51_home:  uname -a
[23:17] <jimmy51_home> thanks
[23:18] <guntbert> whatev: the "real users " have their password hashes there, and ! is an impossible hash, so root cannot login
[23:18] <durt> Dan9311: What card?
[23:18] <rsc-> whatev, it means there's no password at all for root.
[23:18] <Dan9311> Slart: ALSA
[23:18] <whatev> or just uname -v
[23:18] <Dan9311> durt: No clue
[23:18] <slyuk> Hoping somone can help with a weird problem. When i open a program, it hangs at the loadup screen, this is expected. All i need to do is minimize it and re-open in for it to boot ok. I cant for the life of me figure out wmctrl and all its flags, any help ?
[23:18] <Slart> Dan9311: and you've checked all the volume sliders?
[23:19] <PsynoKhi0> hi again... I'm looking for some guidance to block icmp in ufw
[23:19] <rebel_kid> anyone happen to know a good, low resource, screen recorder that can record one window only (preferably even while its minimized)
[23:19] <Dan9311> Slart: Yes, their all to the max
[23:19] <durt> Dan9311: Do you have a check box marked IEC958 checked, if so, uncheck it
[23:20] <blndr08> hey all i just installed ubuntu on my desktop - when i close out of some applications the program quits but still displays it on the screen - it doesn't go away until i "erase" it by running another window around the screen
[23:20] <momomo> bmorris: aptitude purge foo deletes static and config files
[23:20] <Dan9311> durt: Where would I find that check ?
[23:20] <momomo> !aptitude > bmorris
[23:20] <blndr08> i think it's a driver problem but im not sure - can anyone help?
[23:20] <durt> Volume controls
[23:21] <donpachi> drivers...hmm
[23:21] <whatev> rsc- is putting a ! for a password in /etc/shadow all you have to do to disable an account?
[23:21] <Dan9311> durt: Under prefences?
[23:21] <CyberGabber> rebel_kid: check KSnapshot...
[23:21] <durt> Dan9311: not sure I'm on Xubuntu
[23:21] <rebel_kid> CyberGabber, i thought ksnapshot was just for taking screenshots, not video recording
[23:21] <rsc-> whatev, by "disable" meaning "not being able to authenticate to it in any way" then yes
[23:22] <CyberGabber> rebel_kid: Not video-recording, just static screenshots
[23:22] <K3nt> I am having trouble installing the new 8.10 release of ubuntu. When i boot to the disc for installation, everything seems to go smoothly until i get thrown into a shell: 2.6.27-7 generic is the description. Is this problem documented somewhere? i cant seem to find anything on it
[23:22] <Dan9311> durt: ? Where would I find that checkbox?
[23:22] <rsc-> whatev, however, it's still "enabled" in the sense that you can still log in to it through some means without a password (e.g., sudo -u username)
[23:22] <Dan9311> durt: I found it, it's not checked
[23:24] <durt> Dan9311: Well I'm out of ideas, except that if your using alsa and not pulse an application might already have the soundcard engaged
[23:24] <jebblue> durt you can also try to go into the volume control and on the Switches tab make sure Analog/Digital Output was unchecked, worked for my Audigy card
[23:24] <Carefree> hello
[23:24] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: seems like a bug, it should work using the Busid thing
[23:25] <Carefree> what's a good tool for linux to defragment a vista NTFS partition?
[23:25] <mgolisch> Carefree: none
[23:25] <K3nt> anyone familiar with the issue i stated above? i noticed that another person on the installation section of the forums had the same thing happen to hom
[23:25] <K3nt> him*
[23:25] <durt> Carefree: rm :D
[23:25] <mgolisch> Carefree: i do stuff like that from bartpe/winpe
[23:26] <happyhessian_> i'm looking at a forum right now where the guy claims to have solved it with BusId on its own not as an argument of Option
[23:26] <shay26m> Hello , does anyone knows is Mozilla firefox support wmv streaming ?
[23:26] <jebblue> durt: Dan9311 sorry durt that last message was for Dan9311
[23:26] <happyhessian_> that did it! it works!
[23:26] <guntbert> K3nt: did you check the integrity of your .iso before burning?
[23:26] <momomo> shay26m: not by default, it will offer you to download the needed codec and install it for you
[23:27] <sweetgum> why isnt sourcenavigator added to my Applications menu after i install it
[23:27] <happyhessian_> mgolisch: if you're interested, I saw it on the comments to this forum post
[23:27] <K3nt> i checked the integrity of the disk upon booting to it. would that be the same thing? if not, i can perform a checksum right away
[23:27] <Nitricacid> Can anyone help me with getting Madwifi drivers?
[23:28] <momomo> sweetgum: its possible that there is no integration at all or that it will appear after relogging in
[23:28] <mgolisch> happyhessian_: cool
[23:28] <sweetgum> momomo: do you by any chance know the bin file where i can find it and run it?
[23:28] <guntbert> !who | K3nt
[23:29] <K3nt> guntbert: forgot bout that >.<
[23:29] <bobbob1016> I'm only getting stereo over spdif with "speaker-test -c 6", can anyone help me get 5.1?  I'm using alsa 1.0.19  Here's my .asound.rc http://pastebin.ca/1323327
[23:29] <happyhessian_> mgolisch: pheww, what a nightmare.  thanks for the help, though
[23:29] <delaz> Hey, is there anyone who can help me? im having some problems, im trying to run Warcraft 3 in Wine..
[23:29] <guntbert> !md5sum | K3nt , you should check *before* burning (the file might be corrupted)
[23:29] <momomo> sweetgum: dpkg -L package   lists executables and config files, just have a short look
[23:29] <K3nt> guntbert: i'll do a check on the md5
[23:30] <K3nt> guntbert: thanks
[23:30] <egoleo> hey guys
[23:30] <egoleo> i have a broadband connection using cable
[23:30] <blndr08> can anyone help me?  i just installed ubuntu on my desktop - when i close out of some applications the program quits but still displays it on the screen - it doesn't go away until i "erase" it by running another window around the screen
[23:30] <egoleo> but i want to share the connection to another laptop using wireless
[23:30] <jebblue> delaz wine-hq  has good information on configuring wine
[23:31] <guntbert> K3nt: its *mostly* a corrupt file, but not everytime of course
[23:31] <delaz> jebblue - yeh i've been looking there but i just can't get it to function at all.
[23:31] <rovedoz> Hello to all,iam using ubuntu 8.10 when i shutdown my pc the ips in auto eth0 are deleted ,and i should type those again.how can i fix that?
[23:31] <delaz> when i open warcraft 3, i can hear the sounds but my screen goes black and i just get - Out Of Range..
[23:31] <C4N> hey, does anybody know if there is a default username and password after you install ubuntu???
[23:32] <zash> C4N: no, you configure it during install
[23:32] <C4N> dang it. then I forgot it LOL
[23:32] <momomo> sweetgum:  /usr/bin/snavigator is a candidate
[23:32] <prince_jammys> C4N: try 'ubuntu'
[23:32] <C4N> zash: I have some data on my ubuntu that I saved.. if I reinstall ubuntu, will it format the drive?
[23:33] <delaz> yes
[23:33] <durt> egoleo: Yes, But it involves setting up some Iptables rules. Or maybe just use firestarter?
[23:33] <rovedoz> Hello to all,iam using ubuntu 8.10 when i shutdown my pc the ips in auto eth0 are deleted ,and i should type those again.how can i fix that?
[23:33] <delaz> jebblue - do you have any suggestions?
[23:33] <egoleo> i am using firestater
[23:33] <jebblue> delaz this looks like the new WINE forum for Ubuntu is:  http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=313
[23:33] <gmap> how do you quit a telnet session in terminal
[23:33] <durt> egoleo: Is there not a check box to enable sharing?
[23:34] <asserp> C4N: try sudo su
[23:34] <jebblue> delaz and my guess is that your video setting is out of range
[23:34] <jebblue> delaz
[23:34] <gmap> ctrl+z is not doing it
[23:34] <egoleo> at where
[23:34] <delaz> well i just dont understand that..
[23:34] <jebblue> delaz oops - and I would say try using WINE's desktop and set a resolution that contains the game
[23:34] <durt> egoleo: Dunno I don't use it anymore :)
[23:34] <guntbert> egoleo: firestarter is only a gui for creating iptables rules
[23:34] <Nitricacid> I recently purchased a D-Link wireless card (DWA-542) and I want to get madwifi drivers for it. Can anyone help me do this?
[23:34] <delaz> i have a nVidia GFX card and i installed the drivers.. i even tried changing the ubuntu resolutin to 1024x768..
[23:34] <egoleo> ok
[23:34] <delaz> Wine desktop?
[23:35] <rovedoz> Hello to all,iam using ubuntu 8.10 when i shutdown my pc the ips in auto eth0 are deleted ,and i should type those again.how can i fix that?
[23:35] <K3nt> guntbert: okay, i did an md5 check, and the hashes match..
[23:35] <momomo> rovedoz: just a guess: /etc/network/interfaces
[23:35] <exodus_ms> ccccc
[23:35] <egoleo> what i want is to be able to share my wired internet through my wireless to another wireless laptop
[23:35] <mgolisch> rovedoz: how did you set the ips?
[23:35] <C4N> asserp: sudo su? pardon me?
[23:35] <rovedoz> manually
[23:35] <mgolisch> rovedoz: using ifconfig? thats not permanent, it will not survive reboots
[23:35] <jebblue> delaz yes, google it - uesful for misbehaving games also try a small setting in the game itself not Ubuntu
[23:36] <mgolisch> rovedoz: you want to edit the /etc/network/interfaces file to setup the network interfaces there
[23:36] <delaz> i have been googeling but i just can't find any good answers...
[23:36] <rovedoz> no i wen to system >preferences>network config
[23:36] <delaz> also i cant get into the game i just get out of range..
[23:36] <durt> egoleo: You have an AP?
[23:37] <russ5811> hi all. i'm wondering if there's an app that will back up all of my installed apps. i tried aptoncd, but it didn't seem to get everything (e.g. open office) any suggestions?
[23:37] <egoleo> what is AP?
[23:37] <guntbert> K3nt: sorry then, do you mean the graphics couldn't start?
[23:37] <mgolisch> rovedoz: so if you go there again the settings are gone?
[23:37] <durt> egoleo: Access point. A wireless "router".
[23:37] <Nitricacid> Can someone help me just follow these instructions please? I'm a complete Linux noob. http://linux-wireless.org/Install-HOWTO/Drivers/madwifi/0.Howto.Install.Madwifi.txt
[23:37] <rovedoz> mgolisch: yes
[23:37] <Cpudan80> durt: AP != router
[23:38] <egoleo> no
[23:38] <egoleo> i want to use my latop
[23:38] <egoleo> as the access point
[23:38] <Cpudan80> They are not even remotely the same
[23:38] <K3nt> guntbert: im not so sure that its the graphics that arent starting (maybe?) but it says the version of the shell is 2.6.27-7 . is it reverting to a backup or something?
[23:38] <durt> Cpudan80: Hence the quotes.
[23:38] <rovedoz> mgolisch: iam here ne interfaces
[23:38] <Nitricacid> most laptops cant broadcast man
[23:38] <vigo> russ5811: There are a few options, bacula is one, I use Simple Backup,,I have also used HUB
[23:38] <rovedoz> what should i write here
[23:38] <Cpudan80> durt: mmmh ok
[23:38] <russ5811> thanks vigo!
[23:38] <K3nt> guntbert: also, when i typed "startx" is told me that no screens were found...
[23:38] <asserp> C4N: if you boot from ubuntu livecd, you can get root in console by typing: sudo su
[23:39] <C4N> K I'll try that
[23:39] <guntbert> K3nt: when you boot from the CD: how far does it go, do you get the choice "live/install/check"?
[23:40] <asserp> C4N: that means you can type commands as a superuser (root)
[23:40] <momomo> rovedoz: "man interfaces" describes the language and its conventions
[23:40] <durt> egoleo: How in the world do you use the wireless on the first laptop?
[23:40] <K3nt> guntbert: yes, i do get into the menu. i had tried picking both of the "install" and "try ubuntu without change to the computer" options
[23:41] <Nitricacid> Can anyone help me do this? http://linux-wireless.org/Install-HOWTO/Drivers/madwifi/0.Howto.Install.Madwifi.txt I need these drivers for my wireless card. Please help.
[23:41] <egoleo> what wireless
[23:41] <whatev> syslog means /var/messages right?
[23:41] <K3nt> guntbert: the loading orange bar gets almost all the way to the end but then it just rings me to a terminal (im assuming this isthe shell. i am going on what i read in a similar post.)
[23:41] <egoleo> i am using a laptop which connect to the internet using cable
[23:41] <egoleo> but i want to be able to share it
[23:41] <egoleo> wireless
[23:41] <Nitricacid> get a router egoleo.
[23:42] <egoleo> so without router i cant do it
[23:42] <sweetgum> how do i make a grep case sensitive
[23:42] <egoleo> cant i use linux to do it?
[23:42] <durt> egoleo: get an Access Point
[23:42] <Nitricacid> unless your laptop can broadcast.
[23:42] <egoleo> as router?
[23:42] <egoleo> and how do i do that plse
[23:42] <Nitricacid> you go to the store, and you buy one.
[23:42] <prakka> well yeah, laptops can broadcast, but it's easier to buy a wireless router
[23:43] <sweetgum> can someone tell me how to do a case sensitive grep
[23:43] <guntbert> K3nt: and both dump you to a shell? it definitely looks like a problem with the graphics card recognition, but thats something I'm no good at
[23:43] <jpedroza> I am trying to configure DVD video playback under 8.10. I opened totem and it installed the missing libraries. Now when I try and open the disk it freezes totem. It does the same thing in VLC
[23:43] <momomo> sweetgum: its case sensitive by default?
[23:43] <sweetgum> momomo: doesnt seem that way
[23:43] <whatev> what's the difference between /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages?
[23:43] <Nitricacid> ﻿Can anyone help me do this? http://linux-wireless.org/Install-HOWTO/Drivers/madwifi/0.Howto.Install.Madwifi.txt I need these drivers for my wireless card. Please.
[23:43] <prakka> sweetgum, isn't grep allready casesensitive?
[23:43] <prakka> else: try man grep
[23:44] <K3nt> guntbert: okay, no problem. do you know about forum posts or sections which deal with the issue? i do have a switchable graphics setup in my computer.
[23:44] <prakka> Nitricacid, get the sources: http://sourceforge.net/cvs/?group_id=82936
[23:44] <asserp> C4N: before sudo su you can try: "whoami" command
[23:44] <Nitricacid> prakka:  how?
[23:44] <Nitricacid> just download them?
[23:44] <WIGGMPk> How do you stop GNOME from starting?? so that it stops at the terminal login prompt?
[23:44] <vigo> Niticacid: Acer Aspire?
[23:44] <prakka> yeah
[23:45] <vigo> Oh ok
[23:45] <momomo> sweetgum: its default is case-sensitive. you might pastebin your command so we could help you
[23:45] <asserp> C4N: and then passwd [your_user_name]
[23:45] <guntbert> K3nt: sorry no, but you might want to put your question (with the "new" facts) to the channel again, maybe someone else can step in
[23:45] <prakka> Nitricacid, download, untar, configure, make, make install
[23:45] <prakka> make install has to happen as SU
[23:46] <sweetgum> sorry, it is case sensitive, my mistake
[23:46] <dou213> hi, what was the cmd with apt-get to reinstall a package?
[23:46] <dou213> didn't find it in man apt-get
[23:46] <vigo> Nitricacid: also may want to look at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1021615&highlight=madwifi >>marked as solved
[23:46] <prakka> Nitricacid, sorry, i was wrong
[23:47] <asserp> C4N: then you can do user configuration as a default user from special menu entryes
[23:47] <prakka> it has to happen via cvs
[23:47] <prakka> let me see
[23:47] <Nitricacid> prakka: is there a difference between .tar.bz2 and .tar.gz ?
[23:47] <edju> Did a bunch of repartitioning, and now I have sda2,3&4 - no 1.  Everything works, and fdisk reports no errors, but is there a way to straighten this out so I'd have 1,2&3?
[23:48] <lifenova> dou213: i think you just have to remove and then install
[23:48] <durt> dou213: use the --reinstall switch
[23:48] <prakka> Nitricacid, http://madwifi.net/Install-HOWTO/Drivers/madwifi/1.SourceForge.Madwifi.Drivers/madwifi-200603/
[23:48] <prakka> get it there
[23:48] <lifenova> dou213: or not.
[23:48] <skinofstars1> edju: it really shouldn't matter what number they are
[23:49] <dou213> durt, so 'sudo apt-get --reinstall package-name'?
[23:49] <Nitricacid> vigo thanks ill try this
[23:49] <frog_> how can i set up the application window in nome, that it would stay in same workspace all the time?and  also when i change the workspace and click the icon in a systray i would be transfered to the workspace which i assigned to the specific application?
[23:49] <Kryptix> hey guys -- just installed the latest ubuntu. i have a HDMI motherboard and i've got everything working except sound through HDMI. any suggestions? it detects the HDMI and outputs video through it, and it works on windows but i can't get it to work on ubuntu -- very new to linux so it may be obvious.
[23:49] <durt> dou213: I think you still need 'install'
[23:50] <whatev> is gnome pronounce nome or gunome?
[23:50] <Kryptix> hey guys -- just installed the latest ubuntu. i have a HDMI motherboard and i've got everything working except sound through HDMI. any suggestions? it detects the HDMI and outputs video through it, and it works on windows but i can't get it to work on ubuntu -- very new to linux so it may be obvious.
[23:50] <mic_lovin> i have two partitions of type swap ... how do i know which one linux is using?
[23:50] <dou213> how about 'sudo apt-get install reinstall package'?
[23:50] <momomo> mic_lovin: /etc/fstab
[23:50] <durt> dou213: don't forget the '--'
[23:50] <BugeyeD> hi all, help needed. workstation is a mac running os x. ssh into ubuntu 8.10 server running kvm. any attempt at controlling the console of virt machines works but the keyboard is completely unusable. that is, keypresses result in characters on the console, but they are completely different from what i'm typing. other X apps seem to work fine when running on ubuntu and displaying on the mac. any ideas?
[23:51] <WIGGMPk> How do you stop GNOME from starting automatically?? so that it stops at the terminal login prompt?
[23:51] <guntbert> mic_lovin: type grep swap /etc/fstab
[23:51] <skinofstars1> whatev: according to the phonetics on wikipedia it's gur-nome
[23:51] <dou213> durt, thx
[23:52] <durt> dou213: np
[23:52] <skinofstars1> whatev: still not how i'm gonna say it though
[23:52] <cuculain> hmm tasksel crashed installing lamp-server
[23:52] <Kryptix> hey guys -- just installed the latest ubuntu. i have a HDMI motherboard and i've got everything working except sound through HDMI. any suggestions? it detects the HDMI and outputs video through it, and it works on windows but i can't get it to work on ubuntu -- very new to linux so it may be obvious.
[23:52] <cuculain> and now when i try and remove the packages individually, it keeps trying to remove then restart mysql
[23:52] <mic_lovin> guntbert; that didn't tell me much ... i was hoping i could narow it down to /dev/sdaX
[23:52] <guntbert> !repeat | Kryptix
[23:53] <lifenova> mic_lovin: swapon -s
[23:53] <tomodachi> !patience
[23:53] <mic_lovin> lifenova: ohhh shiny!
[23:53] <LuciferToo> heres a question... atleast i think it is interesting...
[23:53] <guntbert> lifenova: thx, was new for me too :)
[23:54] <whatev> skinofstars1 gur-nome? that cant be right
[23:54] <lifenova> No problem :)
[23:54] <LuciferToo> so i have this old P3 machine, which cannot boot by USB and the CD drive is broken...
[23:54] <skinofstars1> whatev: ok, g-nome
[23:54] <LuciferToo> i am running xubuntu on it via Wubi
[23:54] <guntbert> !enter | LuciferToo
[23:54] <prakka> LuciferToo, network install?
[23:55] <skinofstars1> whatev: it says you rponouce the g, just checked with my girlfriend who is a linguist
[23:55] <whatev> g-nome as in "gee-nome" like the human genome project?
[23:55] <LuciferToo> prakka, but that needs another linux machine, right?
[23:55] <LuciferToo> guntbert, sorry bout that. i figured a really long rambling case would be incoherent.
[23:56] <skinofstars1> whatev: no, with a hard g, like gnu
[23:56] <adaptr> whatev: as in GU-nome
[23:56] <gerber> wine is setup in my box, i install a windows application and when i double click nothing happen need help ?
[23:56] <_VIM_> whatev: I think it's 'Guh-Nome'
[23:56] <guntbert> LuciferToo: np, but several sentences are hard to read and follow (and answer:))
[23:56] <gerber> who is expert with wine
[23:56] <LuciferToo> guntbert, that too...
[23:56] <chay> hi
[23:57] <LuciferToo> so is there any way to do a proper install from the hard disk?
[23:57] <gerber> who is expert with wine ?
[23:57] <lifenova> gerber: /join #winehq
[23:57] <skinofstars1> gerber: i'm quite good with red wine, but i just can't stand white
[23:58] <chay> me
[23:58] <usser> gerber, run it from terminal see what error it gives
[23:58] <KemrinH> Hey everyone. When I access the sound preferences area to change my system sounds, it gives me the option default, custom, or none. When I click custom it takes me to select a sound file. Is there a way to enter a custom terminal command instead?
[23:58] <prakka> LuciferToo, you could try a network install
[23:58] <chay> what?
[23:58] <usser> gerber, your wine c: drive is in ~/.wine/drive_c
[23:58] <gerber> could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\Dvrclient.exe": Module not found
[23:59] <gerber> could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\Dvrclient.exe": Module not found
[23:59] <gerber> that was the error
[23:59] <_VIM_> !repeat | gerber
[23:59] <chay> what?