[00:35] <Chris_F> hey can someone here give me some help with ntfsfix?
[00:43] <Chris_F> >.>
[00:56] <Chris_F> nevermind i figured it out
[01:03] <Torgoton> Hey all. How can I tell which video driver xubuntu is using at the moment? (My video performance seems slow and I suspect it is using VESA.)
[01:23] <aaroninfidel> how can I use xcalib with xfce?
[01:25] <penguincentral> how do i change the keyboard layout in xubuntu?
[01:26] <charlie-tca> penguincentral: applications -> Settings -> Settings Manager -> Keyboard
[01:27] <penguincentral> thanks
[01:28] <charlie-tca> aaroninfidel: Install it using Applications -> System -> Synaptic Package Manager
[01:31] <aaroninfidel> charlie-tca, I am using a macbook pro 3,1 and I have to configure it manually, I don't know how to use the custom profile...
[01:31] <charlie-tca> I don't know enough about Macs to help with that.
[01:33] <charlie-tca> Torgoton: It is given in /var/log/xorg.0.log ; I am looking for something easier
[01:41] <aaroninfidel> is anyone here using a mac with xubuntu?
[02:22] <Torgoton> thanks, charlie-tca\
[02:25] <Torgoton> charlie-tca: Seems I was wrong. It at least identifies the correct video chip... it's probably just me, and this old PIII laptop has always been this slow.
[02:26] <charlie-tca> no problem. Just gotta keep trying.
[02:26] <Torgoton> Well, with that sorted out, I'd like to use acpi, but the BIOS is dated 1999. If I add acpi=force to the kernel params, the machine locks up during boot.
[02:26] <Torgoton> Should I try again, then capture /var/log/messages? (messages.0 after a reboot, right?)
[02:27] <charlie-tca> Can't do anything with it, most likely.
[02:28] <charlie-tca> I got two of them, both pre-1998
[02:28] <Torgoton> I know ACPI works with the machine on Fedora... but I'm trying to switch. I'd like ACPI for suspend/resume and battery functions.
[02:29] <Torgoton> oooh. Just got a new kernel for jaunty. Trying acpi=force on that.
[02:31] <Torgoton> another problem fixed: The new kernel boots with acpi=force. Two for two.
[02:32] <Torgoton> ...but suspend doesn't work. bah.
[02:37] <charlie-tca> But it could by the time Jaunty goes final
[02:40] <Torgoton> I suppose... Something's not right: it won't power off after a shutdown either. hm.
[03:25] <sml1226> anybody know where I can talk specifically about ps3 xubuntu?
[03:26] <sml1226> if not can anybody tell me a dock that is compatible with 9.04 and a ppc processor?
[03:35] <sml1226> hey
[03:36] <sml1226> what ver you using?
[03:40] <sml1226> helloooooooooooo! :)
[03:40] <Torgoton> ssshshhhh!
[03:40] <Torgoton> ;)
[03:41] <zoredache> !night
[03:41] <sml1226> what r u in eur?
[03:42] <sml1226> i live in IL and its only about 9:45
[03:42] <zoredache> doesn't really matter, the point is that sometimes you need to be patient
[03:43] <zoredache> particularly when you are asking about an obscure issue
[03:44] <sml1226> well i am just wondering? since u r here now can u help me or r u wasting time talking about it being late???
[03:44] <Torgoton> who's wasting time, sml1226
[03:44] <Torgoton> ?
[03:45] <sml1226> anybody that is just coming here to say be patient its late not to help and talk
[03:45] <Torgoton> from what I read, they are trying to help.
[03:46] <zoredache> I am trying to encourage you to be less annoying about waiting for an answer...  If you just state your question and wait, perhaps someone might actually read your question instead if you saying hellloooo... and so on
[03:47] <sml1226> well that was just to see if somebody would respond to that instead of my question
[03:47] <sml1226> not to sound impatient
[03:47] <zoredache> sml1226: so you are the one that is wasting our time then?
[03:48] <sml1226> i guess u could take it that way but since i have ppl talking now maybe those ppl could answer my question?
[03:48] <sml1226> my first one that is
[03:50] <Torgoton> why don't you ask the real question instead?
[03:50] <sml1226> do you know where i can talk specifically about ps3 linux or 9.04?
[03:51] <zoredache> try #ubuntu+1 for questions related to jaunty perhaps
[03:51] <Torgoton> or ask something about them here
[03:53] <sml1226> i want to use awn and apt-get (what i used in 8.04 and 8.10) won't work now and there is no new one for 9.04 yet that i know of. is there a dock for 9.04?
[03:53] <sml1226> remember that the ps3 is ppc though.
[03:54] <sml1226> if nothing i will try #ubuntu+1
[03:54] <sml1226> also is it just #ubuntu+1 or is there a #xubuntu+1???
[03:55] <zoredache> from what I have seen ppc really isn't supported well for ubuntu.  I know it is not officially supported
[03:55] <zoredache> sml1226: why xubuntu?  awm isn't xfce?
[03:56] <sml1226> i used awn in 8.10 ppc
[03:56] <sml1226> but my copy of 8.10 was buggy so i upgraded
[03:59] <sml1226> 9.04 is missing compatibility as far as i know with most things but ill look in the other room to be sure
[04:03] <zoredache> sml1226: you could always look on http://packages.ubuntu.com/ or launchpad and see if you can find the maintainer, and try and contact them directly...
[04:06] <sml1226> Thank you! I got somebody telling me that its in repositories for 9.04 on #ubuntu+1 so ill find out more there.
[05:54] <kids> I'm having trouble. All of a sudden my display changed to 800X600 and when I go into the display settings, it only lists 800X600 as the max size, but I was running 1024X768. Any ideas?
[05:55] <kids> Odd-rationale: I'm having trouble. All of a sudden my display changed to 800X600 and when I go into the display settings, it only lists 800X600 as the max size, but I was running 1024X768. Any ideas?
[08:44] <azizah> hi, i'm currently looking for answers to this
[08:44] <azizah> 1. how do i remove abiword, gnumeric and thunderbird
[09:02] <Mood> how does one set up a printer in xubuntu?
[09:02] <Mood> it's a network printer and has an IP like 192.168.x.x
[09:03] <dmseg> hi guys how do we upgarde to xfce 4.4 in xubuntu
[09:04] <Mood> dmseg: there's no package for it under package manager?
[09:11] <dmseg> mood: xfce is a compplete desktop not one pakage
[09:15] <Mood> dmseg: i saw this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=251350&highlight=b-focus+xubuntu
[09:16] <Mood> out of curiosity, is there a new feature you want in 4.4?
[09:19] <dmseg> mood: xfce 4.4 is far better than 4.2 and has good support for xgl or beryl
[09:20] <Mood> dmseg: gotcha
[09:33] <aaroninfidel> what is the login manager used at startup in xubuntu?
[09:34] <azizah> hi Mood, I connected to my office printer using applications > settings > printing
[09:37] <zoredache> aaroninfidel: gdm
[09:44] <aaroninfidel> zoredache, do you know how to get the sound daemon to work? I think I broke it using esd and alsa together?
[09:45] <zoredache> no idea
[10:23] <spz> hi
[10:24] <spz> why does the gnome-desktop pop up at my xfce-desktop which I installed over the actual ubuntu-desktop every time after booting?
[10:30] <spz> And btw.. does Thunar support favourite folders?
[10:30] <spz> ah sorry.. of course it does
[10:30] <spz> but does it support networking?
[10:35] <spz> only after mounting the folder.. ok
[10:54] <spz1> listen starts anymore :(
[11:10] <spz1> ImportError: cannot import name Dispatcher
[12:54] <atgarsis> hello. got one quick question: how to turn-on/off the video-out thing/external monitor?
[12:56] <TheSheep> atgarsis: with xrand
[12:57] <atgarsis> xrand?
[12:57] <TheSheep> try xrand --help, it will show you how to use it
[12:57] <atgarsis> thanks!
[12:58] <atgarsis> does work somehow...
[12:59] <atgarsis> says 'command not found'
[13:00] <TheSheep> what version of xuuntu do you have?
[13:01] <TheSheep> xubuntu
[13:06] <atgarsis> it's xrandr not xrand. 8.10 is my ver
[13:06] <TheSheep> ah, sorry, you are right
[13:06]  * TheSheep always uses tab-completion
[13:11] <atgarsis> thanks anyway!
[14:27] <atgarsis> got a problem with xrandr. monitor doesn't respond to any commands. any idea why is that?
[14:44] <nikolam> hi
[14:45] <nikolam> where do you find information about supoprted driver under linux/ubuntu?
[14:45] <nikolam> like hcl list etc
[14:45] <nikolam> or just place where all hardware supported is listed etc
[14:46] <knome> !hardware
[14:58] <nikolam> knome, great. Only thing some pages are empty etc. Maybe some more linux-general one? Where you go when you want to buy new scanner or modem ot printer or.. whatever for your linux box?
[14:59] <knome> i ask my friend or check devices one by one if they are linux compatible
[15:00] <knome> an item in HCL is way less than reading forums and seeing which problems people have had with that device in linux, if any
[15:05] <nikolam> Yes thanks for the answer.
[15:05] <knome> np
[15:05] <nikolam> I was just hoping we had some huge database etc.
[15:05] <nikolam> ok.
[15:06] <knome> i think the problem with HCL's are that if a device works, nobody "normal" won't add the device into a hcl
[15:08] <nikolam> I don`t think I understood. if device works it is great to be added to some hcl. Why is that a problem.
[15:09] <atgarsis> sorry, a bit off-topic, BUT does anyone have troubles with google.com at the moment?
[15:09] <nikolam> atgarsis, I have
[15:09] <nikolam> refuses to give me pages.
[15:09] <atgarsis> me too
[15:10] <nikolam> Telling like all sites are bad to my computer
[15:10] <atgarsis> yeah
[15:10] <knome> http://tech.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=09/01/31/1457221
[15:10] <nikolam> I was always saying that depending on only one search engine is a bad thing
[15:10] <atgarsis> it's probably google messing around not our computers, innit?
[15:10] <knome> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/537
[15:11] <knome> atgarsis, nikolam: ^
[15:11] <nikolam> atgarsis, google is a company for profit
[15:11] <nikolam> it was question of time for something like this to happen
[15:11] <nikolam> knome, thanks
[15:11] <nikolam> knome, I use seamonkey..
[15:12] <nikolam> maybe some petition to include that removal in google itself..
[15:12] <nikolam> grrr
[15:12] <nikolam> One day I wake upa nd world is changed to bad. Again..
[15:13] <atgarsis> any good alternative websearches?
[15:21] <nikolam> cuil? atgarsis
[15:24] <nikolam> they changed it back to normal..
[15:24] <nikolam> seconds ago
[15:25] <nikolam> but now we got Forbidden message in every google search
[15:28] <atgarsis> i don't see any "forbidden message" thing. where is it?
[15:28] <atgarsis> does anybody know how can one configure tv-out adapter?
[15:30] <nikolam> atgarsis, they removed it again :)
[15:30] <nikolam> atgarsis, they seem so play hide and seek with us at google
[15:32] <SiDi> google's gone crazy, don't worry about the messages saying sites ain't safe
[15:41] <nikolam> SiDi, it is maybe great to have that feature. Maybe they can make it like users can turn it on and off etc.  Also one part of me was hoping google changed some of its policy
[15:41] <nikolam> And gave me excuse to fine alternatives
[15:42] <SiDi> well it most of the time works well and actually saved me once or two
[16:08] <tingle> !pdf
[16:08] <tingle> is there a pdf reader by default for xubuntu?
[16:09] <charlie-tca> Yes, tingle. It is evince
[16:09] <tingle> ty
[16:14] <eut> i'm having trouble trying to change the brightness level on my laptops monitor. in the past whenever the fn keys werent supported i'd just echo 100 > /proc/acpi/video/VID/LCD0/brightness and it would go to the maximum level. but thats not working for me now. any ideas?
[16:14] <eut> i'm only experiencing this problem after upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 (fresh install)
[16:18] <j1mc> eut: that command works for me, but i must execute the command as root.
[16:18] <j1mc> not even sudo will do it
[16:18] <eut> thats what i'm doing
[16:19] <j1mc> hm... not sure what the issue may be, unfortunately
[16:19] <eut> my laptop is a lenovo x61 if that helps any.
[16:19] <j1mc> interesting... i'm on a t60
[16:20] <eut> what is the output of your cat brightness?
[16:20] <eut> (the levels)
[16:20] <j1mc> levels:  100 30 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
[16:20] <j1mc> current: 100
[16:20] <eut> mine looks like: levels: 100 100 20 25 30 25 40 45 50 55 60 65 70 75 80 85 90 100
[16:24] <j1mc> as we can see, my cat is very bright, but my cat does not have as many levels of brightness as your cat.
[16:24] <j1mc> ... sorry i can't be of much more help
[16:24] <eut> thats ok.
[16:24] <eut> i find the first 2 100's odd
[16:31] <eut> ahh
[16:31] <eut> j1mc!
[16:31] <eut> cd /sys/class/backlight/acpi_video0
[16:31] <eut> max_brightness: 15
[16:31] <eut> actual_brightness:6
[16:32] <eut> brightness:15
[16:32] <eut> :/
[16:32] <forces> saluton
[16:34] <eut> what is your max_brightness?
[16:35] <j1mc> eut: glad you found it.  :)
[16:36] <eut> but thats not a solution :/
[16:36] <eut> even if i modify brightness and actual_brightness changes it still doesnt change brightness of the screen
[16:36] <eut> i think that max_brightness should be 100, not 15
[16:38] <j1mc> root@lighbulb:/sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0# echo 6 > brightness
[16:38] <j1mc> root@lighbulb:/sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0# echo 6 > brightness
[16:38] <j1mc> oops
[16:38] <j1mc> my max brightness is 7
[16:38] <j1mc> and entering the above command does work to change my brightness
[16:38] <j1mc> root@lighbulb:/sys/devices/virtual/backlight/acpi_video0# echo 5 > brightness
[16:38] <j1mc> brings it even lower
[16:39] <eut> :o
[16:39] <j1mc> eut: why don't you just use the function keys, though?
[16:39] <eut> they have no effect
[16:39] <j1mc> hm
[16:39] <j1mc> they do work for me
[16:40] <eut> by any chance did you do a fresh install of 8.10 or did you upgrade from 8.04?
[16:40] <charlie-tca> eut: I thought they fixed that with an update to 8.10. Did you apply the updates already?
[16:40] <eut> charlie-tca, yes
[16:43] <SiDi> eut: in /proc/acpi/video/blabla did you try to cat brightness ?
[16:43] <eut> yes
[16:43] <SiDi> the max value is usually 70 not 100
[16:43] <eut> it reflects the value that i set it to
[16:44] <eut> but the screen's brightness doesnt change
[16:45] <SiDi> don't know then :/
[16:45] <eut> very weird
[16:45] <eut> well i have to go now, but thanks for your time
[16:45] <eut> if you do discover something please pm me :]
[16:45] <SiDi> i'm off, gonna try to make a firefox theme for elegant brit :P
[16:45] <eut> have fun :P
[16:46] <SiDi> Did you try VGA/CRT btw ? :p
[16:46] <SiDi> see you later peeps
[16:46] <j1mc> what is the preferred application for remote-desktop connections in xubuntu?
[16:46] <j1mc> is it vinagre?
[16:51] <gabkdlly> j1mc: seems to be, as it is "recommended" by the package xubuntu-desktop
[16:51] <gabkdlly> j1mc: such information can be found at packages.ubuntu.com
[16:52] <j1mc> thx, gabkdlly
[17:25] <guntur_roxx> hi all
[17:26] <guntur_roxx> can anyone help me?
[17:26] <guntur_roxx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112153/
[17:27] <forces> guntur_roxx, try with safe graphics mode
[17:31] <guntur_roxx> forces : safe graphics mode? what do u mean?
[17:32] <forces> when you boot ubuntu for install it, use that mode
[17:32] <forces> or you can use the alternative cd
[17:32] <guntur_roxx> owh
[17:33] <guntur_roxx> is there an option like that?
[17:33] <guntur_roxx> maybe i'l try first
[17:34] <guntur_roxx> but i saw in the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsAti .. it said that my video card is not supported
[17:34] <guntur_roxx> how can i solve this?
[17:36] <forces> first install ubuntu, then find your driver
[17:36] <guntur_roxx> where can i find mine?
[17:36] <guntur_roxx> my computer specs is listed in the http://paste.ubuntu.com/112153
[17:40] <forces> have you already installed ubuntu?
[17:41] <guntur_roxx> ubuntu 8.10 .. i clicked the install ubuntu, but after it finished load, then the screen becomes a blank white screen
[17:42] <guntur_roxx> i've installed linux mint with the inside windows installer, n it comes out successfully, it appears in the boot menu, but the same thing happens again, when the linux mint finished loaded, then the screen becomes blank white screen
[17:43] <mib_detmsx> hi .. I am installing xubuntu right now - I have /dev/sdb4 as a partition I want to use - it is reiserfs already ... so I selected manual in the partitioning step and mounted /dev/sdb4 at / and asked it to format it ...
[17:43] <mib_detmsx> is this alright ?
[17:43] <mib_detmsx> cos it is saying it as "used : unknown "
[17:48] <forces> mib_detmsx, format the partition like reiserfs
[17:49] <mib_detmsx> forces: I did ...
[17:49] <mib_detmsx> it shows a tick at format
[17:57] <mib_detmsx> aargh - stupid thing got stuck at "configuring hardware" .. this is the second time
[17:57] <mib_detmsx> 94%
[17:58]  * mib_detmsx is wondering if he is being ignored as he is using mibbit 
[17:58] <mib_detmsx> wats the command for changing nick ?
[17:59] <Odd-rationale> mib_detmsx: /nick newnick
[18:00] <duryodhan> hehehe
[18:00] <duryodhan> :D
[18:33] <jxander> why can't i see a progress bar or any type of dialog when copying files from one location to another?
[18:34] <interflop> i'm new to xfce and i'd like to know how i can disable the panel transparency when i have display compositing turned on
[18:34] <interflop> i would like it to be opaque all the time
[18:38] <j1mc> vinnl: howdy
[18:38] <vinnl> Hey j1mc
[19:47] <vinnl> Aargh... I hate kernel panics
[19:47] <duryodhan> hi .. my drives don't show up in xubuntu .. I thought they are supposed to show up on the desktop
[19:48] <duryodhan> but I can't see them
[19:48] <duryodhan> I have to mount them individually
[19:48] <vinnl> duryodhan, are they in the Places menu?
[19:48] <duryodhan> not even the linux ones. .. (reiserfs etc.
[19:48] <duryodhan> no
[19:48] <duryodhan> vinnl: no
[19:48] <vinnl> Have you enabled volume management? (In Thunar, Edit->Preferences, Advanced)
[19:50] <duryodhan> yes
[19:50] <vinnl> Odd...
[19:51] <duryodhan> someone told me that I will have to install ntfs-3g etc. .. but I can't see the linux partitions either
[19:51] <duryodhan> 8.04 btw
[19:51] <vinnl> ntfs-3g should only be needed to read ntfs partitions
[19:52] <duryodhan> s/read/write ?
[19:52] <duryodhan> read I can do without
[19:52] <duryodhan> the kernel does that for me
[19:53] <duryodhan> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-966174.html
[19:53] <vinnl> Yeah write
[19:53] <duryodhan> even if you don't have ntfs-3g .. you should atleast be able to see the drives
[19:53] <duryodhan> hal might bitch when you double click
[19:54] <duryodhan> for e.g when i connect an external USB drive , I can see it on  desktop
[19:57] <SiDi> hi
[20:32] <DeltaZulu> Quiet bunch
[20:32] <SiDi> Hey, did anyone try xfce 4.6 yet ?
[20:34] <DeltaZulu> I downloaded Xubuntu 8.10, burned the ISO to disk, did an install and rebooted.  All I get after boot is the ASH command line.  Anyone else having this problem?
[20:35] <DeltaZulu> BTW, startx  yields nothing also.
[20:36] <SiDi> Well, not me, but there are a lot of people in #ubuntu, they might be helpful
[20:36] <SiDi> You're more likely to have an answer there ;)
[20:36] <DeltaZulu> I'll give it a shot - thanks
[20:36] <SiDi> no prob
[20:48] <sml1226> does anybody know how to bypass the kboot screen in ps3 version? Is there a way to go straight to the xubuntu login screen?
[20:57] <sml1226> nm my first question if anybody is reading it
[20:59] <sml1226> how do you change the panel color and make the border around icons transparent? xubuntublog has something but it didnt work
[20:59] <SiDi> hehe gz :P
[21:00] <SiDi> for border i'm unsure but for the panel you gotta go in .config/xfce4/panel and then... (forgot the next step tho .. xD)
[21:01] <sml1226> well i didnt even know that they said make a gtkrc-2.0 that says something about each
[21:01] <sml1226> it didnt work for me
[21:02] <SiDi> yeh exactly
[21:02] <SiDi> create the .gtkrc-2.0 file
[21:02] <SiDi> http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=261316
[21:02] <SiDi> see here there's an exemple of gtkrc file in the bottom
[21:03] <SiDi> btw it usually doesn't render well :(
[21:04] <sml1226> ok i did it in 8.04 and had a mac and vista theme that turned out great but it wont work in my 9.04
[21:04] <sml1226> can i get a link that is to an english page???
[21:05] <SiDi> Well sorry that's all i found
[21:05] <SiDi> but the gtkrc will work ;P
[21:05] <SiDi> http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xubuntuqm2.png see my smexy xubuntu :O
[21:06] <sml1226> can you just edit the panels.xml to have a color?
[21:06] <SiDi> nop
[21:06] <SiDi> you need to change the gtk class panel
[21:06] <SiDi> i don't know about xfce 4.6 though, didn't test it yet
[21:07] <sml1226> ok then im not sure what is default in 9.04 so that could be my prob
[21:07] <sml1226> yours looks great is that a second panel or a dock on the side
[21:08] <SiDi> second panel :)
[21:08] <SiDi> non-extended panel with a lot of launchers, and a few spacers
[21:08] <SiDi> the clock is a clock screenlet though
[21:08] <SiDi> the name of the theme is elegant brit. i can send you a .tar.gz with everything inside if you want to ;)
[21:08] <sml1226> i wanted to use a mac theme but there is no awn for 9.04 ppc yet
[21:09] <sml1226> that be great love the theme
[21:10] <SiDi> ah well it's a bit early for 9.04 :)
[21:11] <sml1226> yap but my 8.10 had a major bug with thunar and it wouldnt work at all. there's no 8.04 for ppc+ps3 so i am stuck with 9.04
[21:12] <sml1226> is the elegant brit an xfce theme?
[21:12] <SiDi> its a gtk + xfce + a lot of mods
[21:12] <SiDi> wallpapers, gdm, grub, usplash, pidgin, screenlet
[21:12] <SiDi> awn icons
[21:13] <SiDi> i'm uploading you a full tar.gz, give me a sec, my internet is slowz !
[21:13] <sml1226> my internet isnt bad but only 192MB or ram in the ps3 sux
[21:13] <SiDi> hehe
[21:13] <SiDi> it's enough for ubuntu tho
[21:14] <sml1226> well xubuntu at least!
[21:14] <SiDi> http://www.2shared.com/file/4770269/5c803cd0/Elegant_Brit_SuperPackztar.html
[21:14] <SiDi> put the folder in your .themes/ hidden folder
[21:15] <SiDi> and look inside i put a lot of stuff ;) it comes from a very big amount of ppl tho
[21:15] <SiDi> i made symbolic links to the xfwm called "black borders" inside, and the gtk is modded for bottom located panels
[21:15] <SiDi> i'm currently trying to make a firefox theme tho
[21:15] <sml1226> cool
[21:16] <SiDi> http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/6402/firefoxsamplewr1.png
[21:16] <SiDi> thats just a sample made in 10 mins, it'll be sexier :O
[21:17] <sml1226> looks good so far
[21:18] <SiDi> a shame my laptop's bluetooth mouse is out of battery :( i need to go back home for photoshopping, and i dont have the internet there
[21:20] <sml1226> just applied the theme!
[21:20] <sml1226> Looks great
[21:20] <sml1226> yeah cant photoshop without at least a mouse
[21:21] <sml1226> ever use a tablet?
[21:21] <owen1> can i install only excel and word from openoffice?
[21:21] <SiDi> nope unfortunately
[21:21] <SiDi> i'd love to have one tho
[21:22] <sml1226> i want to get a little usb tablet for my desktop
[21:22] <SiDi> install openoffice.org-writer owen1
[21:23] <sml1226> what is the excel equivalent? dont remember
[21:23] <SiDi> its calc
[21:23] <owen1> SiDi: ok. and openoffice.org-calc as well?
[21:23] <SiDi> i don't really like ooo
[21:23] <SiDi> owen1: i suppose
[21:23] <SiDi> in fact i'm using latex for my docs now :)
[21:23] <owen1> SiDi: is there lightweight alternative to oo?
[21:24] <SiDi> owen1: yes. try gnumeric and abiword
[21:24] <SiDi> it's really uberlight and sufficient if you need only the very basic functions.
[21:24] <sml1226> just for word processing ill stay with abiword cuz im lazy and its installed
[21:24] <owen1> SiDi: but gnumeric requires gnome, no?
[21:24] <SiDi> owen1: i don't think so
[21:24] <SiDi> gnu refers to gnu, not gnome
[21:24] <SiDi> you're under GNU/Linux ;)
[21:25] <sml1226> gnumeric is already installed in xubu isnt it?
[21:25] <SiDi> i think it is
[21:25] <SiDi> i use it when i want to check an .ods. it's cool to have it opening instantly on a 800mhz cpu :)
[21:25] <sml1226> i have it and havent manually added it but im in 9.04
[21:26] <sml1226> it still opens instantly on a 600mhz cpu
[21:26] <sml1226> (my old celeron)
[21:26] <owen1> SiDi: it's say on the website that it's part of the gnome desktop. not sure what it means.
[21:26] <owen1> SiDi: i'll give it a shot. let's hope it's not going to install all the gnome libraries.
[21:27] <SiDi> owen1: sorry then ive said something wrong :)
[21:27] <SiDi> it opens instantly tho, don't worry owen1
[21:27] <owen1> SiDi: no worries..
[21:28] <SiDi> correct me if i'm wrong ... alt+F3 is not used under xubuntu ?
[21:28] <sml1226> owen1: well gnumeric"s already in xubuntu 9.04 and as far as i know all the way back to 8.04
[21:28] <sml1226> never needed to try so not sure
[21:28] <owen1> sml1226: i don't have xfce. i am using bare-bone ubuntu (command line install) with dwm as my window manager.
[21:29] <owen1> SiDi: it will add 34.5MB, not bad.
[21:29] <SiDi> compared to ooo its correct :)
[21:30] <sml1226> owen1: sorry bout that then thout u were on xubuntu
[21:31] <owen1> sml1226: hey, it's not your fault that i am on #xubuntu..
[21:31] <owen1> sml1226: i find it more friendly than #debian (-:
[21:31] <SiDi> yes it is !: he should be punished for that offense !
[21:31] <owen1> the debian guys are awesome as long as they don't know u'r using ubuntu.
[21:32] <SiDi> owen1: lol that's so true :x
[21:32] <SiDi> debian users and ubuntu users seem to be at war ... each time they meet there's flame
[21:32] <owen1> SiDi: i usually say i am on leny or something like this, they seems to buy it..
[21:33] <SiDi> just say you're under windoz to avoid getting flamed ;d
[21:33] <owen1> ubuntu has bigger community and it's easier to get answers.
[21:35] <sml1226> ive only ever been on ubuntu so no clue how others are towards us
[21:36] <SiDi> well i tried mandriva and arch
[21:37] <SiDi> i've to say that as a front-end user i love ubuntu
[21:37] <SiDi> it's so perfect, everything you need, a lot of gui's, big repository, big community
[21:41] <sml1226> yaeh only other i almost used was fedora
[21:42] <sml1226> you guys know any channel specifically for the ps3 linux?
[21:44] <sml1226> or where i can get a channel list?
[21:44] <jarnos> sml1226: in xchat you can view it.
[21:45] <sml1226> ok ill check it out. im in pidgin now
[21:46] <Mood> anyone use x11vnc on xubuntu? does the server + client machines need to have the same X server?
[21:47] <SiDi> Mood: i think you can use vnc for windoz too, so i guess its not needed to have the same X serv
[21:47] <Mood> SiDi: so i can use vnc to connect, let's say, a winXP machine to view the desktop of a xubuntu desktop?
[21:48] <Mood> or any mix of win/osx/*nix for that matter
[21:49] <kahrn> you can also use XDCMP
[21:49] <SiDi> Mood: you can as long as you have a VNC client/server for this OS
[21:59] <sml1226> found a ps3 room but there is 4 ppl there
[21:59] <sml1226> counting me
[22:05] <SiDi> :)
[22:05] <SiDi> i'm leaving
[22:06] <SiDi> bye bye
[22:06] <sml1226> nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[22:07] <Genelyk> plop
[22:18] <caspix1> hello
[22:19] <Jessica123> Hi Folks: can anyone lend a hand?  I have live cd 8.1.  a friend has a dead windows machine that got wiped by a trojan.  can I virus scan it from this live cd?  I'm not a strong ubuntu user.  any help would be greatly appreciated!
[22:20] <caspix1> u want to scan trojan horse with linux?
[22:20] <Jessica123> yes
[22:20] <caspix1> i'm not sure is it possible...
[22:20] <caspix1> i think it's not...
[22:21] <Jessica123> i think it is.  there are various web references to doing exactly this.  unfortunately, there are little or no details
[22:21] <Jessica123> anyone in here who can help?
[22:25] <TheSheep> !virus
[22:26] <caspix1> why don't u just install linux to your friend?
[22:26] <Jessica123> TheSheep:  thx for the info.  It was a friend who got bit.  they don't know safe computing for shit.  I realize that linux is safer, but I'm trying to dig them out of this hole
[22:26] <TheSheep> I was hoping that would link to some virus scanner
[22:27] <Jessica123> ahh
[22:27] <TheSheep> from what I know, most linux virus scanners are for mail
[22:27] <Jessica123> yeah
[22:27] <Jessica123> ok
[22:27] <kahrn> you can use clam-av
[22:27] <Jessica123> clam is for email, isn't it?
[22:27] <Jessica123> not a file scanner?
[22:27] <kahrn> hm
[22:28] <kahrn> I'm 99% sure it can scan whatever you tell it to scan
[22:28] <Jessica123> ok
[22:28] <caspix1> but that's linux virus scanner....don't u need scanner for windows viruses?
[22:28] <TheSheep> there are no linux viruses :)
[22:29] <Jessica123> hehe
[22:29] <Jessica123> ok
[22:29] <TheSheep> at least not outside laboratory
[22:29] <Jessica123> i'll give it a go
[22:29] <caspix1> there is about 500 of them.....
[22:29] <Jessica123> i may be back in a bit
[22:29] <caspix1> but they r not so destructive
[22:29] <TheSheep> caspix1: anyone can write one, it's easy, it's just hard to get them spread :)
[22:29] <caspix1> and can't make some damage to computer....but there r viruses for linux too
[22:30] <caspix1> thesheep: i know
[22:30] <kahrn> you just need a clamav gui interface
[22:30] <caspix1> from where r u guys? i'd like to know :)
[22:31]  * TheSheep looks at #xubuntu-offtopic
[22:31] <kahrn> we're all from richard stallmans basement :)
[22:38] <caspix1> bbl
[22:38] <caspix1> see ya
[22:59] <Mood> anyone ever use x11vnc?
[22:59] <Mood> it's a vnc server recommended for xubuntu due to it's lightweight footprint
[23:00] <Mood> i'd like to know if anyone ever was successful in connecting to a xubuntu box running x11vnc from a MacOSX machine or windozXP machine
[23:01] <Mood> OSX+some_vnc_client :: connected to :: xubuntu+x11vnc
[23:27] <blankthemuffin> I'm having serious trouble with my system clock here, it doesn't seem to sync with internet time servers, and it won't set to the proper time.
[23:28] <blankthemuffin> Is there a terminal app which will let me sync with time servers?
[23:31] <Mood> blankthemuffin: sudo ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com
[23:32] <blankthemuffin> 31 Jan 22:32:09 ntpdate[1198]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting
[23:32] <blankthemuffin> :/
[23:33] <Mood> ?
[23:34] <blankthemuffin> nvm
[23:34] <Mood> k
[23:35] <blankthemuffin> Now it's just complaining about: 31 Jan 22:34:30 ntpdate[1513]: no server suitable for synchronization found
[23:36] <Mood> blankthemuffin: can you try a different server?
[23:36] <Mood> where are you located? (what continent)
[23:36] <blankthemuffin> Australia, hang on, it might be my firewall.
[23:41] <blankthemuffin> weird
[23:41] <blankthemuffin> looks to be fine through the firewall
[23:43] <Mood> try oceania server
[23:44] <Mood> sudo ntpdate oceania.pool.ntp.org
[23:44] <Mood> or, sudo ntpdate pool.ntp.org
[23:45] <blankthemuffin> yeah I've tried a few now, none of them are working.
[23:47] <Mood> all say "no server suitable for synch found"?
[23:47] <blankthemuffin> yep
[23:49] <Mood> did you blacklist something in iptable?
[23:49] <Mood> iptables*
[23:51] <blankthemuffin> nope
[23:52] <Mood> could be servers/daemons are down temporarily
[23:53] <Mood> nope. it worked for me
[23:56] <whatev> how do you pronounce xubuntu
[23:56] <blankthemuffin> it must be the firewall
[23:56] <whatev> x-ubuntu or zoobuntu?
[23:57] <Mood> zoo boon too
[23:57] <Mood> blankthemuffin: shut down firewall temporarily to see if it works
[23:58] <whatev> and gnome is genome, gun-ohm, or nome?
[23:58] <Mood> nohm
[23:59] <Mood> gnome = small, hobbit-like creature, usually with large facial features, said to lurk under bridges and irc channels