[00:00] <s0101> #ubuntu
[00:01] <nashk> Hi, is there some guide on how to upgrade kde from 4.1 to 4.2?
[00:01] <nashk> googling ain't helping.
[00:02] <mefisto__> tbr281: right-click kmenu icon, go into the menu editor, and click the save button
[00:02] <mefisto__> nashk: kubuntu.org has instructions. see the topic in here
[00:04] <nashk> mefisto_ Thanks. Wow, digikam won't install it's saying.
[00:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> tomdavidson: Seems that i just have to type the line in the server window! :-D
[00:05] <nashk> "Digikam will not install alongside these packages due to conflicting library versions.
[00:05] <nashk> "
[00:05] <artur_> Why when I try to open the Skim, nothing happens?  I really need to use this program
[00:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> tomdavidson: testing again, BRB
[00:06] <enig> Dows anyone knows what can cause permanent frame skipping and slowdowns in movie playback?
[00:06] <enig> using Kaffeine and Dragon player, both with the same problem
[00:06] <Heliodor> Hello there. Is it not possible to sort installed apps only in Adept??
[00:07] <Heliodor> I have nothing under "View"
[00:11] <Heliodor> No one?
[00:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> tomdavidson: Dosent want to work, i have tryed under advanced, Inleding shellcommand, but there was response, but error
[00:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> tomdavidson: But thanks for trying to help! Im so tired now, my brain is cooked, so i have to sleep! Thanks again! I will look futher into it when im more up-to-date
[00:16] <tomdavidson> Sp0tKubuntu: sorry i wasnt much help
[00:16] <mefisto__> Heliodor: in the search window, those 3 icons determine what is in the list. turn off (so the icons are dimmed) all but the middle one
[00:16] <yukping> hello
[00:17] <mefisto__> Heliodor: the icons where it says State:
[00:17] <d_mitry> how can i get amarok 2 in kubuntu 8.10?
[00:17] <Heliodor> Umm.. i dont have those icons.. :-(
[00:18] <mefisto__> Heliodor: ok, maybe that's just kde 4.2   what do you have installed?
[00:18] <Danu> Mr. d_mitry adding a repository
[00:18] <Heliodor> mefisto__: KDE 4.2
[00:19] <JontheEchidna> d_mitry: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.0.1.1
[00:19] <d_mitry> Danu: nah, should've installed amarok-kde4.
[00:19] <d_mitry> JontheEchidna: thanks.
[00:19] <JontheEchidna> yw
[00:19] <d_mitry> Danu: well, yeah, but i meant after that. :P
[00:19] <Danu> right
[00:20] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Re-install does not help
[00:20] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Probably KDE 4.2 problem
[00:21] <mefisto__> Heliodor: this is what mine looks like in kde 4.2  http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=adeptpj1.png
[00:22] <cxo> whats the control center thing called now?
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> systemsettings
[00:23] <cxo> thanks
[00:23] <cxo> they dropped the k, very naughty
[00:23] <Heliodor> mefisto__: What the!
[00:23] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[00:24] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Mine says "browse" instead of "search" and i have none of the alternatives
[00:24] <Heliodor> mefisto__: What version is your adept?
[00:24] <JontheEchidna> Heliodor: you probably launched Adept Installer
[00:25] <JontheEchidna> Go to KMenu -> System -> Adept Package Manager
[00:25] <Heliodor> JontheEchidna: I dont have that in the menu
[00:25] <mefisto__> Heliodor: in help, about adept, mine says Version 3.0 Beta 4 (Sheldon)
[00:26] <JontheEchidna> Heliodor: then just press alt + f2 and type adept
[00:26] <Heliodor> JontheEchidna: How do i get it into the menu?
[00:26] <JontheEchidna> are you using kickoff or the classic menu?
[00:26]  * JontheEchidna recalls that the description comes first in kickoff
[00:27] <Heliodor> Ah...
[00:27] <Heliodor> I just added one manually
[00:27] <Heliodor> works
[00:27] <Heliodor> Thanks for all the help
[00:27] <JontheEchidna> You're welcome
[00:27] <Heliodor> To bad i cant sort installed apps in adept-installer though
[00:27] <mefisto__> is kickoff the name of the alt-F2 app?
[00:28] <adben> hello, what is the full, deep and safest way to erase all the user settings of kde, not just rm -rfv ~/.kde
[00:28] <adben> ?
[00:28] <Heliodor> kickoff is the menu i think
[00:28] <JontheEchidna> mefisto__: nope, alt + f2 is krunner
[00:29] <Heliodor> my krunner crashed 3 times today
[00:29] <Heliodor> And hang 2 times
[00:29] <renato> Hello everyone, does anyone know how can i make the open programs tabs show only in the desktop where they've been opened, and not on every desktop; this used to be a check box in kde3.x, can't find it in Kde4; thanks in advance
[00:29] <mefisto__> Heliodor: I'm using lancelot (from the widgets list)
[00:30] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Does it also have keyboard shortcuts?
[00:31] <mefisto__> Heliodor: shortcuts for the apps in the menu?
[00:32] <JontheEchidna> renato: right click on an empty space in the task manager and select Task Manager Settings
[00:32] <Heliodor> mefisto__: No, for launching the menu.
[00:32] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Like krunner
[00:32] <renato> awesome, thanks @ JontheEchidna
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> ^_^
[00:33] <mefisto__> Heliodor: it does, but it didn't work for me. but I found somewhere else to set it as alt+F1 (can't remember where)
[00:34] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Yes, i just noticed that it didnt work :)
[00:34] <nashk> Hi, trying to update my kernel to 2.6.27-11. Whenever I do that, It stays on -9. Uname keeps returning 2.6.27-9-generic
[00:34] <renato> Krunner's awesome; I'm particulary fond of the calculator
[00:35] <mefisto__> Heliodor: systemsettings > keyboard & mouse > global keyboard shortcuts. KDE component: lancelot
[00:36] <renato> the unit converter falls a bit short, but a nice feature nonetheless
[00:36] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Aah! Thanks!!
[00:37] <mefisto__> krunner is pretty much the old kde3 one plus katapult functions
[00:39] <Heliodor> mefisto__: yes, quite limited. lancelot seem much more mature
[00:39] <renato> it's interesting though, that if you issue a command preceded by sudo, nothing will happen because it doesn't prompt for your root password (it'd be a nice feature to add, although you're probably better off opening a terminal and that's it)
[00:40] <JontheEchidna> renato: kdesudo should really be used for GUI apps, and it has a gui password dialog
[00:40] <mefisto__> Heliodor: oh no I mean krunner (the alt+F2 one not the menu) has absorbed a lot of katapult's functions
[00:40] <renato> no wonder, heheh
[00:41] <renato> I used to try with kdesu and nothing happened
[00:41] <renato> I see my mistake
[00:41] <Heliodor> mefisto__: Yes, i noticed, but i like lancelot better as a launcher
[00:44]  * mefisto__ notices lancelot's search does what krunner does, that is, finds apps, as well as bookmarks, calc functions etc. 
[00:45] <JontheEchidna> mefisto__: that's because lancelot uses krunner :)
[00:45] <mefisto__> JontheEchidna: that's what I assumed. same behaviour
[00:45] <Heliodor> JontheEchidna: It does? But my krunner is dead.
[00:46] <JontheEchidna> well, it uses the same runners that krunner does
[00:46] <JontheEchidna> same backend, different way of displaying it
[00:46] <Heliodor> Ah, then krunner frontend is very unstable
[00:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> I need a bot for my irc-channel on Quakenet, therefore i need some nice happy people to join an stay until the bot arrives on the channel! You have to idle for some time, but when you see Q on the channel, then you have accomplished to help me build my own channel! The channels name is #Spotten, and the server to connect is irc.quakenet.org port 6667! Thanks!! Have any questions, PM me!
[00:50] <Heliodor> I dont like spammers.
[00:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> Who is spamming?
[00:51] <Heliodor> You.
[00:51] <Heliodor> It has nothing to do with kubuntu.
[00:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> You dont know what spam is then
[00:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> So?
[00:51] <Heliodor> You are not keeping to the topic.
[00:51] <Heliodor> Then = spam
[00:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> I ask for help, is that a problem?
[00:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> I cant see anything about is not allowed to ask other questions than kubuntu, sorry
[00:52] <Heliodor> You could ask in #ubuntu-social instead, it would be more fitting.
[00:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> Im new in the place, sorry
[00:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> Didtn knew there was a chan for that :-)
[00:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> But thanks, that was actually helpfull :-)
[00:53] <carpii_> anyone using kamil with multiple identites, and had 'unknown transport protocol' error? Its driving me insane because I cant send mail from one identity.
[00:53] <carpii_> kmail
[00:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> Delete it
[00:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> I had same problem today, over and over, then i use Thunderbird, and it just works
[00:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Try that and then tell me if it helps
[00:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> carpii
[00:55] <Heliodor> Sp0tKubuntu: No problem, help is what this channel is made for ;)
[01:00] <elkbuntu> Sp0tKubuntu, please stop that spiel. i dont want to see it again, ever.
[01:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> elkbuntu: Didnt understand?? Spiel?
[01:01] <elkbuntu> Sp0tKubuntu, your advertisement
[01:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> el'
[01:01] <elkbuntu> the unsolicited one.
[01:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> elkbuntu: I have said sorry!
[01:02] <Heliodor> the evil one. ;)
[01:02] <Heliodor> Sorry, couldnt resist
[01:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> Afraid of compation?
[01:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> Loosing users to bettet networks/chans? People use the chans thay like, so i dont se the problem
[01:03] <Heliodor> Sp0tKubuntu: Please, just follow the rules.
[01:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i know, IRC is for peope with needs to feel thay have power! :-P
[01:03] <rindolphus> that's just asking for trouble though Sp0tKubuntu
[01:04] <Heliodor> Yeah.
[01:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> I will, just telling what i think about it, rules for that to??
[01:04] <Heliodor> I see a kick or ban comin someones way very soon.
[01:04] <p_quarles> please, sooner rather than later, kick him
[01:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> Please relax, what have i done?
[01:04] <p_quarles> this is way off-topic, and shouldn't continue after the multiple polite requests
[01:04] <Heliodor> the lynch mob is getting thirsty ;)
[01:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> Have i violated the rules sevoral times?
[01:04] <rindolphus> they are not officers who'll get a warrant first and then read you your rights, they are just gonna kick your butt out
[01:05] <Heliodor> Everyone should stop feeding the troll i think...
[01:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> The power sick people with reallife problems!
[01:05] <p_quarles> Heliodor: +1
[01:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i will just go install windows then :-D
[01:06] <Heliodor> You do that.
[01:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Have someone thought about im maybe new in here? Give people a chance! Or is the chance that im not banned for the advertisement?
[01:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Really dont understand peoples attitude on IRC
[01:08] <Heliodor> Sp0tKubuntu: rtfm.
[01:08] <p_quarles> Sp0tKubuntu: you continue to be off-topic; this is a support channel, not a chat chanel; you're best bet is to be silent from here on
[01:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> z
[01:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> <- Mute! Happy now?
[01:09] <Heliodor> stfu
[01:09] <rindolphus> second that motion
[01:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> Well, now i have a KUBUNTU related question! Why is the battery indicator so lousy in Kubuntu?
[01:11] <Heliodor> Lousy?
[01:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> It dosent seem to work at all sometimes
[01:11] <Heliodor> Sp0tKubuntu: checked the bug reports?
[01:11] <fix_> how to install flash player on ubuntu7.04
[01:11] <Heliodor> fix_: Ask in #ubuntu
[01:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> downloads install-flash-player
[01:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> From packetmanager pherhaps
[01:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then you ask a kubuntu related question, and nothing happens! But when you NOT ask kubuntu related questions, then happens alot! :-D
[01:15] <Heliodor> Everyone has the right to be lazy :-P
[01:15] <Heliodor> And this is kubuntu channel, not ubuntu.
[01:16] <adben> hi, somebody could helpme with this? http://pastebin.com/m6e4c3363
[01:16] <Heliodor> Also, i dont know much about 7.0.4
[01:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Advertising!
[01:16] <Heliodor> adben: Itś a crash?
[01:16] <beachsurfin> can someone please help me get flash to work in konqueror?
[01:17] <adben> Heliodor: yeah... it dont let me login kde
[01:17] <adben> more info http://pastebin.com/m1bb637d
[01:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: Download flash with you packetmanager
[01:18] <Heliodor> beachsurfin: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty#How_to_install_Flash_Player_.28Macromedia_Flash.29_Plug-in_for_Mozilla_Firefox
[01:18] <beachsurfin> Sp0tKubuntu: i'm guessing you meant package manager
[01:18] <beachsurfin> Helio i need it for konqueror
[01:19] <beachsurfin> Sp0tKubuntu: konqueror-nsplugins and flashplugin-nonfree are already installed
[01:19] <adben> it happens in kde 4.2 (kubuntu)i do everything , rm -rfv .kde , reinstall 4.1 , but creating another user and login with this works, so, i need something like a zero conf user
[01:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: Hmm, it didnt work for me eighter, then i installed Firefox, then i works
[01:20] <adben> not just "rm -rfv .kde",
[01:20] <beachsurfin> i've already scanned for plugins, and it supposedly recognizes libflashplayer.so
[01:20] <beachsurfin> Sp0tKubuntu: i have firefox
[01:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: Dosent work there eighter?
[01:20] <beachsurfin> i've been using it but am considering a switch to konqueror if i can squash these tiny problems
[01:20] <adben> some ideas?
[01:20] <beachsurfin> Sp0tKubuntu: it works just fine there
[01:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: Same problem i had, think its a Konquer problem
[01:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: I just use FIrefox, then i works :-)
[01:21] <beachsurfin> Sp0tKubuntu: i think it's a flash problem
[01:21] <beachsurfin> grr, i don't like flash
[01:22] <beachsurfin> i want to use konq :)
[01:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: Maybe som conflicts
[01:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: Like some pages in IE not can be shown in Firefox in Windows platform
[01:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> But thats another issue, Windows! *LOL*
[01:23] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: Konqueror has long had trouble with the Flash plugin; the newest version in 4.2 final made a pretty big stride forward, though
[01:23] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: if you're comfortable running the latest from a PPA, I'd recommend you do that
[01:23] <beachsurfin> p_quarles: i'm using 4.2 :P
[01:23] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: well, it also depends on your video card; do you mean you haven't got it working at all?
[01:24] <beachsurfin> not on konqueror
[01:24] <beachsurfin> it works on firefox
[01:24] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: right, but "not working" can mean a lot of things, actually
[01:24] <p_quarles> does it not load, or is just crashy?
[01:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Kmail and Konquer s0x
[01:24] <ubuntu_> Boa noite!
[01:24] <ubuntu_> alguem portugues por aqui???
[01:24] <p_quarles> !br | ubuntu_
[01:25] <ubuntu_> #ubunto-pt
[01:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: At me, in konquer, the pages was extremely tight, i couldnt see the page proberly
[01:26] <beachsurfin> i can right click on a video in youtube and there's a flash menu... but the video isn't playing
[01:26] <beachsurfin> no sound
[01:26] <ubuntu_> [#portugal]
[01:26] <beachsurfin> ..either
[01:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> Like all the problems i had in KMail, thay are not present in Thinderbird
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> u*
[01:27] <p_quarles> ubuntu_: /join #ubuntu-pt
[01:27] <p_quarles> Sp0tKubuntu: please stop trolling; that is neither on-topic nor helpful
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin:  same in FF?
[01:27] <beachsurfin> Sp0tKubuntu: no, works fine in ff
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> p_quarles: trolling means?
[01:28] <beachsurfin> in vimeo, i don't even get a flash menu when i right click where the video is supposed to be
[01:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> beachsurfin: ok, strange, seem like problems between konquer and flash
[01:28] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: what video card? what sound device?
[01:29] <mefisto__> beachsurfin: my konquerer (in kde 4.2) settings > plugins > plugins tab is using /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so  and it works fine
[01:29] <beachsurfin> p_quarles: what's the command for this?... i forget..
[01:30] <beachsurfin> the graphics card is nvidia GeForce4 MX 440 64mb ...
[01:30] <beachsurfin> but i forget the command to get this info
[01:30] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: well, there's lspci or lshw, but you can also go into systemsettings and retrieve the info there
[01:30] <beachsurfin> 512mbram, VIA 82xx Audio
[01:30] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: that has the added bonus of informing you whether or not you're currently using pulseaudio
[01:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> p_quarles: Hallo? What does trolling means? Itś a little hard to now what i did wrong when you dont answer me! :-)
[01:31] <Sp0tKubuntu> !trolling
[01:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh! Smart :-)
[01:32] <p_quarles> there you go
[01:32] <beachsurfin> don't feed the troll!!! :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_(Internet)
[01:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> im new, give me a break :-)
[01:32] <rindolphus> you said that already
[01:32] <rindolphus> break's over
[01:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> rindolphus: Do you want me to leave? Or give me a chance for learning the rules?
[01:34] <n_> i need help installing flash palyer for konquerer :) i donwloaded *.deb and execued it getting: ./install_flash_player_10_linux.deb: line 1: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:34] <beachsurfin> n_ welcome to the club
[01:34] <Dr_willis> file could be currupted..
[01:35] <Dr_willis> and you DONT run .debs
[01:35] <Dr_willis> :)
[01:35] <p_quarles> n_: sudo dpkg -i install_flash_player_10_linux.deb
[01:35] <mefisto__> beachsurfin: do you have firefox installed?
[01:35] <beachsurfin> mefisto__: yes
[01:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> Just say the magic word and i will leave, actually, i tried to help him with his problem with konquer, but sorry for "trolling" = hearding your feeling! CHRIST!
[01:35] <n_> ok i try
[01:35] <Dr_willis> the kubuntu-restricted-extras package - installs   flash and more.. You really could try that first
[01:36] <beachsurfin> Dr_willis: i already have that
[01:36] <beachsurfin> (if you were talking to me)
[01:36] <p_quarles> beachsurfin: yeah, you definitely have flash installed, it's just not working
[01:36] <Dr_willis> Then you shoud have flash installed.
[01:36] <n_> ok flashplayer is still not working ... any ideas?
[01:36] <Dr_willis> depends on how its not working
[01:37] <Dr_willis> Its getting sad that flash is still a top 10 problem in linux ;()
[01:37] <n_> when i go on youtube just nothing apears :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> in what browser?
[01:37] <n_> konquerer
[01:37] <n_> as i told befor
[01:37] <Dr_willis> Try firefox
[01:37] <n_> no firefox sucks :(
[01:37] <beachsurfin> amen to that home-fry!
[01:37] <n_> i want it to run at konquerer
[01:37] <Dr_willis> guess ya dont trouble shoot the problem then.. good luck
[01:37] <p_quarles> then Opera :)
[01:37] <mefisto__> in konqueror settings, plugins, plugins tab, is any .so plugin listed?
[01:38] <Dr_willis> Ive had flash work in Firefox and Opera and not konqueror on some sites.
[01:38] <n_> mefistoi'll look mom
[01:38] <Dr_willis> then on one weird site.. Opera worked but not the other 2
[01:38] <mefisto__> mom?
[01:38] <beachsurfin> argh, the memory leaks from firefox..it runs at a constant 64mb typically as opposed to the 30mb w/ konq
[01:38] <p_quarles> Dr_willis: the current version has been a huge improvement on my system, though; I can finally use Konqueror for just about everything
[01:39] <Dr_willis> p_quarles,  thats good to hear. But im sticking with firefox for the foreseeable future.
[01:39] <Dr_willis> Opera is getting on my nerves lately :)
[01:40] <n_> mefisto there's "netscape plugins" thats what u want? i dont see anything with "flash"
[01:41] <mefisto__> n_: you don't have firefox installed though
[01:41] <p_quarles> n_: there should be a button that says "search for plugins" or something
[01:41] <n_> yeah there is.
[01:41] <n_> i have firefox installed atm
[01:41] <mefisto__> my konqueror is using /usr/lib/firefox/plugins/flashplugin-alternative.so  and it works fine
[01:42] <mefisto__> is /usr/lib/firefox/plugins in the list of folders above that?
[01:42] <n_> ok nice i just had to "scan for plugin again
[01:42] <n_> :)
[01:43] <ncfi1013> i have been trying to install ies4 linux so i can use ie through wine so i can do my taxes but having no luck. can you help me?
[01:43] <fix_> kubuntu 7.04 how to install flash player?
[01:43] <p_quarles> fix_: kubuntu 7.04 is out of date and no longer supported
[01:44] <beachsurfin> hmm... i'll install konqueror-plugin-gnash and see where this goes
[01:44] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: what part of it doesn't work?
[01:47] <n_> how can i start konquerer with the shell?
[01:48] <p_quarles> konqueror --profile webbrowsing
[01:48] <p_quarles> or whichever profile you like
[01:48] <n_> ah nice :)
[01:48] <n_> thx
[01:49] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: the part where i'm told to install the current wine software, which i do through the terminal, and then i'm told that i can't install ies4linux because i don't have the current version of wine, which i also updated through synaptic pkg mgr.
[01:50] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: yes, I noticed that too, but that's because the script itself is quite old (one of the options is to install MSIE 7 Beta), but that doesn't abort the install
[01:50] <Dr_willis> install the winehq version of wine. perhaps - the one in the normal repos is too old.
[01:50] <p_quarles> Dr_willis: no it's not
[01:51] <Dr_willis> Scrit cant handle the newer versions? :)
[01:51] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: try running the script via the command line: ./ies4linux --no-gui
[01:52] <p_quarles> Dr_willis: correct; the script is way older than the current version of Wine in intrepid
[01:53] <mefisto__> just curious, how does IE relate to "doing taxes"?
[01:53] <p_quarles> mefisto__: a popular US online tax service uses ActiveX controls, unfortunately
[01:54] <ncfi1013> is there something i'm not doing right because i am getting "no such file or directory"
[01:54] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: well, you have to cd into the directory first
[01:54] <mefisto__> p_quarles: isn't that dangerously insecure, esp considering the sensitive nature of the information?
[01:54]  * Dr_willis would think so
[01:55] <p_quarles> if they get their site compromised, sure, but then that's true of any senstive site
[01:55] <ncfi1013> i have the user agent switcher installed. can some one tell me how to use that
[01:55] <p_quarles> ActiveX is dangerous for untrusted sites, not simply "dangerous all the time under all circumstances"
[01:55] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: that won't work for your purposes
[01:56] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: ok i type this: cd ./ies4linux --no-gui?
[01:57] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: no, you have to be in the correct directory
[01:57] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: where did you unpack the file?
[01:58] <ncfi1013> my home folder
[02:00] <Dr_willis> look and see what dirs/files it made. :)
[02:04] <jimmy51_home> hello, any time i use a combination of the kernel + nvidia drivers other than 2.6.27-7-generic and  177.80 I get glx seg faults and a flickering screen.  what's up with that?
[02:04] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: so try cd ~/ies4linux-2.99.0.1 and then run the command I gave you earlier
[02:06] <ncfi1013> i'm not as experienced as you guys. i'm going to need step by step instructions
[02:06] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: that's what I'm doing
[02:08] <ncfi1013> ok thanks. i have the .tgz file in my home folder. the file with that little box with the letters tgz on it.
[02:08] <Dr_willis> ncfi1013,  you DID uncompress the archive?
[02:11] <TweakedEh> Hey, I just bought a Philips PC controller. I can't seem to find any linux drivers for it. Any Ideas?
[02:11] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: tar -zxf iess4linux-latest.tar.gz
[02:11] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: then type: cd ies4linux-2.99.0.1
[02:12] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: and then ./ies4linux --no-gui
[02:12] <rindolphus> what is KDE programmed on?
[02:12] <p_quarles> oops, an extra s in the 1st command I gave you; I trust you can correct that
[02:12] <p_quarles> rindolphus: C++ and Qt
[02:13] <rindolphus> thanks p_quarles
[02:14] <ncfi1013> i don't know what i'm doing wrong because i still am getting no such file or directory
[02:14] <Dr_willis> Time to learn shell basics?
[02:15] <Dr_willis>  use 'ls' and see what dirs are there?
[02:15] <p_quarles> !paste | ncfi1013
[02:15] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: type the command that Dr_willis gave you, and post the results in the service ubottu mentions
[02:16]  * Dr_willis thinks  the *buntu disrtos should have some links/bookmarks to shell basics and other 'tutorials' :)  
[02:16] <Dr_willis> and open them up.. so people can read them .. as ubuntu installs..
[02:16] <Dr_willis> heh
[02:17] <n_> i have some questions to pidgin: how can i disable new msg to autopopup?
[02:18] <n_> btw is there a shortcut to open konqueror? :)
[02:18] <p_quarles> n_: ask in #ubuntu; pidgin isn't part of kubuntu
[02:19] <p_quarles> and you can make shortcuts wherever you like; not sure I understand the question
[02:19] <n_> i just want to know if tehre is any default shortcut
[02:19] <ncfi1013> i went to pastebin and did that now the next page is 'index of file'. what do i do now?
[02:20] <p_quarles> give us the link, ncfi1013
[02:20] <p_quarles> n_: no, but you can put one on the panel, on the desktop, in a folder, anywhere you like
[02:21] <ncfi1013> is this what you are talking about?: file:///var/tmp/kdecache-ncfi1013/krun/14067.0.
[02:21] <p_quarles> no...
[02:21] <p_quarles> you need to paste the output of the ls command to the web site that ubotto gave you
[02:21] <n_> p_quarles indeed sry i was thinking about shortkey :)
[02:22] <p_quarles> n_: well, krunner will pill it up pretty quickly
[02:23] <n_> krunner?
[02:23] <p_quarles> n_: alt-F2
[02:24] <mefisto__> maybe ncfi1013 installing pastebinit will simplify things?
[02:25] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: it didn't give a website link, it just went to index of file:///
[02:25] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: that doesn't make any sense
[02:25] <n_> q_puarles but nothing like "ctrl-k" ? i got katapult to launch apps but i stell need to type the beginings..
[02:25] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: it's simple: you go to the website that ubottu gave you, paste the output of the command, hit "send" and give us the link to the page that comes up afterwards
[02:27] <mefisto__> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && cd ~ && ls | pastebinit
[02:28] <p_quarles> n_: afaik, there's not a way to do that with kwin itself; additional hotkeys type programs could probably rig that up, though
[02:28] <mefisto__> then give us the last line that starts with http://pastebin.com/ followed by some text/numbers
[02:30] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: ok here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112317/
[02:30] <etfb> Does anyone know why Konversation always starts up minimized?  I have the checkbox (Settings | Configure Konversation | Behaviour | General | Hide window on startup) unchecked, so it shouldn't.
[02:31] <ncfi1013> sorry for the trouble and sorry it took so long
[02:31] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: no, we need the output from the command "ls"
[02:31] <ncfi1013> oh
[02:31] <etfb> Also, in KDE 4.1 and 4.2, on my laptop, I can't edit the power usage policy.  The dialog doesn't open when I right-click the battery icon and select Restore.  Anyone else getting that?
[02:33] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: ok, i hope this is the right one: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112318/
[02:34] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: type the following: cd ~ && ls -la
[02:34] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: then put the *whole thing* including the command prompts before and after command, into pastebin
[02:36] <etfb> Damn.  All the bug reports about Konversation say that they want it to start minimized and it doesn't.  Looks like they don't believe in regression testing their new features...
[02:40] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: here is the whole thing. i just put the whole thing even stuff that has nothing to do with what we are doing. what you are wanting to know is on lines 90-93. so heres the link: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112321/
[02:40] <nashk> Hi I just upgraded to kde 4
[02:40] <nashk> 4.2
[02:40] <nashk> my plasmoids are not working
[02:40] <nashk> anyway to remove them?
[02:40] <nashk> I tried deleteing .kde, but they keep comig back as zombies
[02:40] <mefisto__> ncfi1013: hey Chopper!
[02:41] <ncfi1013> mefisto: yeah great movie
[02:41] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: okay, now type: cd ies4linux-2.99.0.1
[02:42] <n_> p_quarles op np thx so far
[02:43] <ncfi1013> ok i believe i'm inside it if i see the dollar sign
[02:44] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: now run "ls -l" in that directory and pastebin the results
[02:48] <ncfi1013> ok p_quaries heres that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112325/
[02:48] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: okay, now run the script by typing: "ies4linux --no-gui"
[02:49] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: and go ahead and paste the output of that, as well
[02:49] <mefisto__> shouldn't that be ./ies4linux ?
[02:49] <p_quarles> mefisto__: yes :|
[02:49] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: ./ies4linux --no-gui
[02:55] <n_> hi, is there a way to add new search engines to konqueror?
[02:55] <ncfi1013> ok p_quaries here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112327/
[02:56] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: looks like the install was successful; the launcher should be in ~/Desktop now
[02:58] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112328/
[02:59] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: well, yeah, ~/Desktop is a location, not a command
[03:00] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: here's a command: dolphin ~/Desktop
[03:00] <p_quarles> the launcher should be in that folder, and clicking on it will run it
[03:01] <Guest70564> h
[03:01] <mefisto__> n_: yes. in konqueror settings, web shortcuts there should be a list of them you can enable, or add your own
[03:01] <ncfi1013> p_quaries: only 2 folders and no launcher
[03:02] <n_> mefisto__ what info is needed to add a own?
[03:02] <ncfi1013> p_quaries maybe in the home folder itself
[03:03] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: okay, let's try another way: type: cd ~/.ies4linux/bin
[03:03] <mefisto__> n_: take the url from a web search and replace the search term with \{@}
[03:03] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: and then type: ./ie6
[03:04] <carpii_> anyone using kamil with multiple identites, and had 'unknown transport protocol' error? Its driving me insane because I cant send mail from one identity.
[03:04] <asobi> is there a way for amarok to determine total play time of the entire collection without having to drag the entire collection into playlist?
[03:05] <ncfi1013> p_quaries no such file or directory
[03:05] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: okay, then I guess the script failed; try #wine
[03:06] <mefisto__> n_: eg in google searching for "foo" the url will be something like http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=foo
[03:06] <mefisto__> n_: so you would use  http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=\{@}
[03:07] <ncfi1013> p_quaries should i get of this folder: ~/ies4linux-2.99.0.1?
[03:07] <ncfi1013> then type cd ~/.ies4linux/bin?
[03:08] <Guest70564> Disculpen........alguien habla español???............necesito cierta orientación, ya que estoy cambiandome de la porqueria de windows a Ubuntu.......y algunas cosas no entiendo.....si alguien puede ayudarme
[03:09] <p_quarles> ncfi1013: no, the command I gave you used an absolute path
[03:09] <p_quarles> !es | Guest70564
[03:09] <n_> mefisto__ i think i understood already- i'm actualy testing :)
[03:09] <n_> thx
[03:10] <Guest70564> thanks bye
[03:10] <n_> ok workes nice thx :)
[03:12] <rindolphus> is it okay to answer in another language if anyone asks, like the guy that just left, or do you absolutely have to redirect them to their official channel?
[03:12] <p_quarles> rindolphus: it gets really messy really fast if we have multiple languages conversing at the same time
[03:13] <faydriss> si` .... i mean oui`
[03:13] <mefisto__> rindolphus: you could answer privately I suppose
[03:14] <p_quarles> yeah, that's true; there's always /query /msg
[03:15] <rindolphus> I guess so, p_quarles & mefisto__ , just wondering
[03:15] <rindolphus> interesting!
[03:15] <jebus_> hola
[03:16] <rindolphus> query by sample :P
[03:17] <ncfi1013> p_quaries, when you told me to go over the wine channel: [01-31-2009 9:17 pm] [Error] #wine: No such nick/channel.
[03:18] <rindolphus> try #winehq
[03:20] <p_quarles> well, #wine actually redirects to #winehq, so I'm guessing someone entered a command incorrectly
[03:22] <rindolphus> p_quarles: yeah, but I get an "invite only channel" message when trying to connect to #wine ; hence the #winehq
[03:22] <rindolphus> who knows
[03:23] <Rioting_pacifist> how do i record sound from my microphone?
[03:25] <rindolphus> Rioting_pacifist: I recommend audacity
[03:26] <n_> is there a shortkey for "last" and for "nextpage" in konqueror?
[03:27] <Rioting_pacifist> thx
[03:27] <rindolphus> sudo apt-get install audacity
[03:27] <rindolphus> your welcome
[03:28] <unni> Hi. I have a problem when I tried to upgrade to KDE 4.2. I think I messed up some where.
[03:29] <unni> As mentioned in http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2, I added the PPA repository and gave sudo apt-get update.
[03:29] <unni> When I give sudo apt-get upgrad, I get some dependency error.
[03:30] <unni> It gives quite a few dependancy errors. I am pasting here the first few lines.
[03:31] <unni> akonadi-kde: Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 is installed
[03:31] <unni>                Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid4 is installed
[03:31] <unni>   dolphin: Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 is installed
[03:31] <unni>            Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid4 is installed
[03:31] <unni>   kate: Depends: kdebase-runtime (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 is installed
[03:31] <unni>         Depends: kdelibs5 (>= 4:4.1.96) but 4:4.1.3-0ubuntu1~intrepid4 is installed
[03:31] <p_quarles> !paste | uni
[03:31] <unni>         Depends: libplasma3 but it is not installable
[03:31] <unni> Sorry. Thanks. I will do that.
[03:36] <unni> Hi. I have pasted the output when I try to run sudo apt-get upgrade (for installing KDE 4.2 from the PPA repository) here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112332/
[03:38] <p_quarles> unni: did you run sudo apt-get -f install ?
[03:38] <unni> I think this problem might have occured because I haven't upgraded my Kubuntu 8.10 during the last one month. Now since I am trying to go directly to KDE 4.2, it may be giving th error.
[03:39] <unni> No. Shall I try? I didn't want to do it since I was afraid I would mess up even further.
[03:43] <p_quarles> unni: yes, do that
[03:44] <unni> p_quarles: OK
[03:51] <ahmos> hi , i get that when i try openning an mp3 file,any help please?
[03:52] <walbert> ahmos: you get what?
[03:55] <ahmos> sorry ,The xine-engine claims it cannot play MP3 files
[03:55] <ahmos> walbert !
[03:56] <Sp0tKubuntu> Can someone tell me if there is a fix for the bug in battery indication in Kubuntu
[03:57] <p_quarles> ahmos: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:58] <ahmos> i have reinstalled libxine and it is working now !!!!!!!!!!
[03:58] <walbert> fantastic,  I was going to suggest making sure libxine-ffmpeg is installed
[03:59] <p_quarles> Sp0tKubuntu: what bug do you mean? do you have a launchpad reference?
[04:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> p_quarles: launchpad reference? Dont know what it is! The problem is that my batteryindicator is not working, almost! Sometimes, when im a little lucky, it works
[04:02] <Digital_Pioneer> Is 4.2 available for Intrepid?
[04:02] <Digital_Pioneer> *KDE 4.2 that is.
[04:03] <Digital_Pioneer> I downloaded Jaunty alpha 3, but the nvidia driver and Xorg don't get along.
[04:03] <n_> is it hard to share a folder for windows on linux? (the other way around works)
[04:03] <Digital_Pioneer> nv doesn't support my card at all, and nouveau didn't work either.
[04:03] <Digital_Pioneer> Vesa can't do any better than 800x600 which sucks, so I can't use X, and I can't downgrade the Xserver.
[04:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> p_quarles: Dosent think i have a launcpad reference, the was no crash, it just dont work, only 1% of all time, maybe
[04:03] <Digital_Pioneer> (By any means I can detect)
[04:04] <Digital_Pioneer> So I'm wondering if I could just use Intrepid with KDE 4.2 instead.
[04:05] <PSiL0> does anyone find that dolphin in 4.2 still runs sluggish in directories with a large number of files
[04:05] <PSiL0> ?
[04:07] <Digital_Pioneer> n_: Not too bad.
[04:07] <Digital_Pioneer> n_: Of course, windoze is stupid and if you're talking vista, it could be a nightmare; but it's not usually too hard.
[04:08] <n_> Digital_Pioneer its vista indeed :D is there a tutorial? :)
[04:08] <Digital_Pioneer> n_: Probably somewhere. Look for Samba.
[04:09] <n_> ok thy
[04:09] <Digital_Pioneer> n_: In dolphin, you should be able to type smb:/ in the address bar and find some stuff, maybe.
[04:10] <Digital_Pioneer> n_: But beware, if vista realizes it's talking to Linux, it'll fight you for all its worth. Until then, it'll just refuse to cooperate one way or the other. :P
[04:10] <n_> it works to access windows with my konqueror :) but i cant access linux folders.. that would be cool too ;)
[04:11] <p_quarles> Sp0tKubuntu: well, if it's a bug, the developers need to know about it before anything else, so you should file a report at launchpad if someone else hasn't already
[04:13] <n_> well ill search a solution these days :)
[04:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> p_quarles: How and where do i do that? Something there is already in my system? A program i have to start and fillout a report, or?
[04:17] <Guest12849> g
[04:17] <sombra> h
[04:17] <p_quarles> Sp0tKubuntu: http://launchpad.net/ubuntu
[04:19] <jimmy51_home> does KDE 4 favor nvidia or ati?
[04:20] <PSiL0> dolphin, in 4.2, almost complete freezes with directories with a large amount of pics.. KDE bug reports state that the devs fixed this bug in 4.2
[04:29] <Sefram__> Does anyone know how i would install Kubuntu 8.10 on nVidia nForce chipset?
[04:33] <mefisto__> PSiL0: large amount of previews? does it happen if you turn off previews?
[04:34] <Sefram__> when i install the 32 bit version network doesnt work. Any Ideas?
[04:35] <adben> sefram:more info
[04:38] <unni> p_quarles: About the KDE 4.2 installation dependency problem, I tried the command as you mentioned. It worked very well. I am in KDE 4.2 now. Thanks very much. You just saved me from a complete reinstallation.
[04:39] <Sefram__> adben: i installed the 32 bit version of Kubuntu 8.10 and the network of the nVidia nForce chipset doesnt work. no errors on dmesg and Network Manager claims to work although network is unreachable
[04:39] <PSiL0> mefisto_: I mistyped by problem, it is dolphin viewing files from list view
[04:39] <PSiL0> ctrl-f2
[04:39] <p_quarles> unni: glad it worked; btw, the -f option just means "fix"
[04:40] <Sefram__> adben: it worked after an reboot from winXP in the installer as if the chipset was preconfigured from the windows driver.
[04:41] <unni> p_quarles: Oh! I thought -f means force.
[04:42] <unni> p_quarles: Thats why I hesitated to use it.
[04:42] <p_quarles> unni: no, that's --force-yes, and you'd be correct to be hesitant about that one
[04:42] <Sefram__> does anybody know if nvidia nforce MCP55 chipset is known to work with Kubuntu 8.10?
[04:44] <unni> p_quarles: Bye for now :) Thanks again.
[04:49] <dewman> is there any gui for python that I can install? I know the command line is there but I was looking for a good gui tool if possible
[04:51] <PSiL0> p_quarles: from "man apt-get | grep fix-broken" -> -f, --fix-broken
[04:53] <PSiL0> p_quarles: whoops, my bad... it was unni who was confused ;p
[04:56] <jeremie> allo
[04:57] <Sefram__> where would i find error logs for network?
[04:58] <jeremie> can u tell me what is that program plz
[04:58] <jeremie> hi??
[05:02] <mefisto__> jeremie: what program?
[05:07] <bizkit> :D
[05:10] <orest> hi guys
[05:11] <orest> i have a question, does exists any  program in the default package configuration of kubuntu that records sounds from the soundboard?
[05:13] <mefisto__> orest: what do you mean by "default package configuration"? preinstalled?
[05:16] <orest> i mean
[05:16] <orest> the preinstalled
[05:17] <orest> aniway, mefisto, do u know any program that does that for linux?
[05:17] <mefisto__> orest: there are many. you can search in adept
[05:17] <orest> what's adept?
[05:17] <mefisto__> orest: what kind of recording are you doing?
[05:18] <mefisto__> !adept
[05:18] <orest> recording from a mozilla firefox web browswe
[05:18] <orest> (recording sound)
[05:20] <mefisto__> orest: what is making the sound?
[05:21] <orest> i think it's java
[05:21] <orest> it's a streaming radio, but with an incorporated player
[05:21] <orest> i nk built in java
[05:22] <bizkit> hey is there a gmail friendly app?
[05:23] <jeremie> kopete
[05:24] <madraykin> I have a feeeling my harddrive is running incredibly slowly on linux. Could anyone possibly help me out to test and if it is fix it?
[05:25] <bizkit> hey can i get some help with installing a webcam driver?
[05:25] <bizkit> im trying to install the driver thats supposed to make my webcam work
[05:26] <Dr_willis> bizkit,   we can try.. but no guarenttes with that stuff. :)
[05:26] <mefisto__> orest: what you want to do really depends on your soundcard more than the program
[05:26] <bizkit> ok
[05:26] <Dr_willis> #1 - install build-essentials
[05:26] <Dr_willis> !find build-essential
[05:26] <bizkit> ill post the error i keep getting
[05:26] <Dr_willis> :)
[05:26] <bizkit> i know it may not work
[05:26] <mefisto__> orest: you need soundcard inputs to capture the soundcard outputs, and record in an audio program (like audacity for example)
[05:27] <bizkit> ive tired a hundred diffrent things, but at least im learning more about how linux works :D
[05:28] <bizkit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112340/
[05:28] <bizkit> ohh and here are the directions
[05:28] <gizmobay> I'm using KDE 4.2. When I add a widget and go to config, it crashes plasma. Like comics, weather, file watcher. Am I missing something?
[05:28] <gizmobay> I have an old video card GeForce 2
[05:28] <bizkit> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112342/
[05:28] <gizmobay> Could that be the problem?
[05:29] <bizkit> gizmobay, i dont think so, im using an gforce mx 440
[05:29] <bizkit> and im not having any issues
[05:31] <bizkit> any ideas to whats wrong?
[05:32] <bizkit> btw, my cam used to work out of the box during 7.10.... why isnt it working now, ive been reading somthing about the programers behind the kernal not supporting logitech....
[05:32] <gizmobay> hmm, same card I'm using mx400
[05:33] <jeremie>  ...
[05:35] <gizmobay> Wonder why mine crashes
[05:36] <bizkit> gizmobay, did you enable the drivers?
[05:38] <gizmobay> which drivers need to be enabled? Need to do this in the frontend?
[05:38] <bizkit> gizmobay, the nvidia drivers
[05:38] <jeremie> bye
[05:39] <bizkit> you can do so by going to applications>system>hardware drivers
[05:39] <asure> my apt-get can't update
[05:39] <asure> ;o;
[05:39] <bizkit> gizmobay, proprietary drivers are not supported out of the box.
[05:39] <gizmobay> when i did the upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 I booted up using default xorg.conf and then it came up with a message saying I needed to add the nvidia drivers so I did
[05:50] <gizmobay> hmm, if I lock the widgets before I configure then it doesn't crash plasma
[05:50] <nashk> I tried installing digikam in kde4, it took out my plasmoid packages. Any idea why this is happening?
[05:51] <nashk> 4.2
[05:51] <userx> try kde4.2
[05:51] <userx> is even worst than 4.1
[05:51] <Dr_willis> reinstall the plasmiod package?
[05:51] <userx> kde4 is like vista
[05:51] <userx> pure crap
[05:52] <userx> i will install 8.04 again
[05:52] <userx> run just fine
[05:52] <gizmobay> nashk, the version of digikam in the repo doesn't work with KDE 4.2 and with the plasmoid packages
[05:53] <gizmobay> nashk, you need to install the latest rev from the experimental packages
[05:53] <nashk> gizmobay: thanks. Is there a package that does wor?
[05:53] <gizmobay> yes, 0.10 beta
[05:53] <nashk> oh ok. Should I add repo to adept? or I'll have to compile?
[05:53] <gizmobay> you can add the repo
[05:55] <gizmobay> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/digikam-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[05:55] <nashk> Thanks.
[05:56] <gizmobay> nashk, you also need to install marble, marble-dat, libmarble4
[05:56] <nashk> One thing I noticed with 4.2 is some things are really slow. Like if I click on shutdown, it takes a few second for the confirmation dialoge to come aup. Also to activate the dashboard it take about 6 seconds. Very annoying.
[05:56] <mefisto__> 6 seconds?
[05:56] <nashk> :) timed it.
[05:57] <nashk> I just wait and wait it then it activates
[05:57] <gizmobay> hmm, I'm not seeing that
[05:57] <nashk> I have new hardware, sony vaio, top isn't swhoing any weird processes...
[05:57] <nashk> so no clue
[05:57] <gizmobay> what's the dashboard?
[05:58] <nashk> Widget Dashboard
[05:58] <nashk> to activate all your plasmoids
[05:58]  * Dr_willis sends people to 'widgits anonymous'
[05:58] <gizmobay> ohh, the add widgets box?
[05:58] <Dr_willis> :)  i cant recall seeing any that i really just HAD to have...
[05:59] <nashk> Also maximizing, there's a little hold before it maximizes....
[05:59] <nashk> looks like Kwin
[06:01] <n_>      gn8 and thx 4 help
[06:07] <mefisto__> gizmobay: ctrl-D is the default to activate the dashboard. everything hides and you see a fullscreen layer with your widgets and nothing else
[06:09] <bizkit> how do i change themes
[06:09] <bizkit> this is really my first time using kde
[06:10] <Dr_willis> theres an appearance menu thing I think
[06:10] <Dr_willis> i rarely use kde :)
[06:12] <mefisto__> bizkit: right-click desktop, appearance settings
[06:16] <Dr_willis> Man! they realy hid that deep down in the settings! :)
[06:17] <bizkit> no
[06:17] <bizkit> its not what i wanted
[06:17] <bizkit> that to download premade stuff
[06:17] <bizkit> i want to install the stuff i get from kde-look.org
[06:17] <Dr_willis> a lot of that may be kde 3.5 themes also..
[06:17] <bizkit> not to mention when i download somthign using that it dosnt actully change the theme
[06:18] <Dr_willis> under 3.5 you could drag/drop things to the appearance window/tabs and it would change/load/install that theme part
[06:18] <bizkit> Dr_willis, no i did my search for kde4
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !theme
[06:18] <Dr_willis> !changethemes
[06:18] <bizkit> thanks
[06:19] <mefisto__> bizkit: the premade stuff you refer to is downloaded from kde-look.org. anyway, downloading from kde-look.org is installing "premade stuff" isn't it?
[06:19] <Dr_willis> ive no idea how up to date the kde stuff is at.
[06:22] <Trikar> Hi, I cannot get my sound to work on my laptop
[06:22] <mefisto__> bizkit: if you are running 4.2 you can make changes to the themes in systemsettings, advanced tab, desktop theme details
[06:25] <Colonel_Panic> I'm trying to compile and install the fidelio hotline client in Kubuntu 8.10
[06:26] <Colonel_Panic> checking for gnomeConf.sh file in /usr/local/lib... not found
[06:27] <Colonel_Panic> configure: error: Could not find the gnomeConf.sh file that is generated by gnome-libs install
[06:31] <mefisto__> Colonel_Panic: does gnomeConf.sh exist?
[06:31] <Colonel_Panic> apparently not
[06:33] <mefisto__> Colonel_Panic: see here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=gnomeConf.sh  looks like you need to install the package libgnome-dev
[06:33] <gps23> hi
[06:34] <gps23> please tell me where to put my servlet's .class file in tomcat. I am using kubuntu 8.10 and tomcat 6. everything is set as default
[06:34] <Colonel_Panic> ok installing that now
[06:35] <gmathews> Will Nuvola 1.0 for KDE 3.x work in Kubuntu - is it worth taking a chance with
[06:35] <gmathews> i mean kubuntu 4.1
[06:36] <gmathews> *KDE 4,1 ;/
[06:46] <inanimate> After upgrading to KDE 4.2, about 65% of the Plasma widgets say "could not find requested component". Any ideas?
[06:46] <inanimate> And these are standard ones like "Show Desktop" and "Character Select", not any 3rd party random ones...
[06:50] <nahy> hi guy. what is the exact form for this command?: kdesudo
[06:52] <gps23> nahy, do man kdesudo to read about it
[06:52] <mefisto__> inanimate: probably old versions of widgets
[06:52] <nahy> thx
[06:52] <inanimate> mefisto__: Makes sense. What's a good way to get 4.2 versions of them?
[06:52] <gps23> nahy, np
[06:53] <nahy> what is np?
[06:53] <ScytheBlade1> Do all of the kde4 packages have the -kde4 suffix?
[06:53] <ScytheBlade1> I have a friend with kubuntu, who tried to install kde4 MUCH earlier, trying to upgrade to 4.2 now
[06:53] <ScytheBlade1> I'm not sure if he properly cleaned his last attempt
[06:54] <ScytheBlade1> Should the KDE4 proper packages not have any specific versioning on the package name?
[06:54] <mefisto__> inanimate: not sure. figure out somehow which packages they belong to, remove them, then reinstalling them will get them from the kubuntu-experimental repo and hopefully work
[06:55] <nahy> thank you my friend! i thought you are typing a command. pardon me
[06:55] <nahy> gps23: thank you my friend! i thought you are typing a command. pardon me
[06:56] <gps23> nahy, its ok pal
[07:04] <inanimate> mefisto__: Hmm... I found the correct package that actually had every single one of the messed up Plasmoids. I removed it and re-installed it, but they're still broken.
[07:05] <olimpico> Does anyone have a ReadyNAS?
[07:06] <inanimate> Oh.
[07:06] <inanimate> I think I found the problem...
[07:06] <inanimate> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182379
[07:08] <mefisto__> inanimate: so the new plasmoids are installed from a different package?
[07:09] <inanimate> Almost. Basically the new plasmoids require both kdeplasma-addons and kdeplasma-addons-data. The latter is installed by default which I assume contains the .desktop files that show up in the Add Widgets, but none of the actual libraries.
[07:10] <inanimate> So if you don't manually install kdeplasma-addons, you don't have any of the actual Plasmoids, hence them not working...
[07:10] <inanimate> Score one for Kubuntu...
[07:11] <mefisto__> inanimate: and what was the package that removed the old ones?
[07:11] <inanimate> kdeplasma-addons-data
[07:14] <caden> hello?
[07:14] <caden> i don't really know how to use this
[07:15] <dr_Willis> use what?
[07:15] <DarkriftX> anyone know what could be wrong that would cause different (normally low cpu usage) processes to suddenly start using 95%+ cpu for hours at a time?
[07:15] <caden> never mind. i was a bit confused by the messages because it's my first time using this
[07:15] <dr_Willis> :()
[07:16] <DarkriftX> 2 days ago it was kded, tonight it was NetworkManager and there was a different one last week. first ive seen this happen since I started using kubuntu 2 years ago
[07:16] <caden> is that a surprised smiley, dr willus?
[07:22] <Guest87302> Test
[07:38] <kde4> Hi, I'm on kubuntu 8.10 with kde4.2.0 is there any way I can do a search for docments using strigi? Where's my strigi-applet?
[07:48] <ilia> DarkriftX: if you really curious and have some spare time :) you can try to run strace and/or gdb against "strange" proceses. This can reveal some details. You can try rignt now: "strace -p ID" (substitute program id instead of ID).
[07:49] <ilia> kde4: I'm too looking for a way to use strigi
[07:50] <mefisto__> tried strigidaemon and strigiclient?
[07:50] <ilia> I've turned desktop search on under system settings
[07:52] <kde4> it seems integrated in krunner
[07:52] <ilia> presses "Apply", but strigidaemon is not run
[07:52] <kde4> alt+f2
[07:53] <ilia> strigidaemon is not running, I doubt "Alt-F2" will help here
[07:53] <kde4> I had to run striclient from terminal and than press start indexing
[07:54] <ilia> and it worked?
[07:54] <mefisto__> ilia: alt+F2 strigidaemon   then alt+F2 strigiclient     then start indexing in the client   then search in the field at the bottom of the client window
[07:55] <ilia> when I run strigidaemon from konsole I get:
[07:55] <ilia> $ strigidaemon
[07:55] <ilia> WARNING: field 'http://strigi.sf.net/ontologies/0.9#debugParseError' is not defined in any rdfs ontology database.
[07:55] <ilia> ASSERT: "d" in file /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.2.0/kdecore/kernel/kcomponentdata.cpp, line 191
[07:55] <odog7777> so does anybody know when a decent intel 4500 gma video driver for ubuntu is going to be released?
[07:55] <ilia> Aborted
[07:55] <odog7777> perhaps when jaunty jackal comes out?
[07:55] <kde4> ilia : It seems strigidaemon already running
[07:56] <kde4> ilia : try  ps aux | grep stirigi
[07:56] <odog7777> right now glxgears only runs at 200 fps for me
[07:56] <ilia> it's running now
[07:56] <ilia> but it wasn't couple of minutes before
[07:56] <ilia> I've checked with ps
[07:57] <kde4> I have to try to logout to see if it is automatocally started when logging in
[07:58] <ilia> now it's not running again :(
[07:58] <kde4> see you later
[07:59] <kde4> me too ;-(
[08:01] <kde4> ilia : I'll be back later to see if some experts could help us
[08:02] <kde4> bye
[08:03] <Trikar> I cannot get KDE 4.2 installed, i followed the instructions on Kubuntu's website precisely, I already did this successfully once on another computer a half hour ago, yet somehow I cannot do it on this one
[08:03] <heinkel_111> when I boot my computer in linux mode, I always get the message that sound playback device [name] does not work. falling back to [another device]
[08:03] <heinkel_111> problem is, I cannot even find the soundcard that is reported "does not work"
[08:04] <heinkel_111> it is there, physically but alsa does not see it with aplay -l
[08:04] <heinkel_111> I have 4 sound playback devices but sometimes only one of them is listed in aplay-l
[08:05] <Trikar> what sound card do you have
[08:05] <heinkel_111> both the number and the order of the devices appears totally random
[08:06] <heinkel_111> Trikar: I have an audigy SE card, some NVIDIA chips on my motherboard (Realtek?) and a M-Audio Fasttrack pro USB device
[08:07] <Trikar> I have the exact same two things for my computer
[08:07] <heinkel_111> In addition to that alsa also lists my midi keyboard as a playback device sometimes
[08:08] <Trikar> I could not get either working, however they did show up as devices, no sound would come out of them
[08:08] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: cat /proc/asound/modules will show you what's loaded
[08:08] <Trikar> you may have to blacklist some other soundcards that appear there
[08:09] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: it only shows 2 usb audio modules currently
[08:09] <Trikar> I cannot get KDE 4.2 installed, i followed the instructions on Kubuntu's website precisely, I already did this successfully once on another computer a half hour ago, yet somehow I cannot do it on this one
[08:10] <toner> ???
[08:10] <heinkel_111> is there a way I can "restart" the loading of sound  modules without rebooting
[08:10] <heinkel_111> ?
[08:10] <toner> what yo no entiendo
[08:11] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: if you know what the module name is, I think it is: modprobe <modulename>
[08:11] <toner> que honda con esto?
[08:11] <heinkel_111> ! es > toner
[08:12] <toner> no se ingles perdon ok si se pero no tanto
[08:12] <heinkel_111> meffisto, is it possible to script which sound devices are being loaded?
[08:12] <heinkel_111> sry mefisto__ ^^
[08:13] <heinkel_111> !es
[08:15] <toner> ..
[08:16] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: if you find the module you want and it loads with modprobe, you could try adding it to /etc/modules
[08:17] <tomdavidson> ahh hell. I got my 8.10 machine upgraded to kde 4.2 and now i periodedly loose the buttons on my mouse. the only way i know to restore the functionality is to restart x. i am using nvidia drivers and dual display (not twinview). any ideas? what about reloading the mouse with out restarting x? the mouse is usb. i have tried unplug and replug.....
[08:19] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: also in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base    you can set default soundcard eg:      options snd_hda_intel index=0     will make that module load as 1st soundcard, index=1 will be 2nd, etc
[08:19] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: thank you I thought there wasgoing to be a way to do this "manually". It seems like  the autoconfigurations in the boot process are not well enough written to handle multiople soundcards consistently
[08:20] <kde4> whois ilia
[08:20] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: however, because I know which soundcards are on _my machine_ it should be possible to script this without guesswork at boot up
[08:20] <ilia> ilia is me :)
[08:21] <lennart> anyone else having this problem where the fan does not spin at all?
[08:21] <lennart> its happened 2 times to me
[08:21] <kde4> ilia : hi I think I'v discovered why strgi doesn't start
[08:21] <ilia> kde4: why?
[08:21] <kde4> Nepomuk::StrigiService::StrigiService: Will not start when using redland Soprano backend due to horrible performance.
[08:21] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: the usb audio stuff seems to confuse things. I wouldn't be surprised if blacklisting the usb ones would make the others load at boot and show up in /proc/asound/modules
[08:22] <kde4> ilia : I'm trying to find a way to use an alternative backend
[08:22] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: you said you have 4 audio devices?
[08:23] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: actually it is 3 but somehow my (usb-attached) midi keyboard is recognized as an audio device
[08:24] <heinkel_111> hmm i still can't get this to work
[08:24] <mefisto__> heinkel_111: audio in linux can be a challenge. might be worth researching the new phonon (which replaced arts in kde)
[08:25] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: I think these problems are happening "below" phonon
[08:25] <heinkel_111> if I have understood correctly phonon builds on alsa
[08:26] <heinkel_111> and if alsa doesnt find the audio device, phonon can't either
[08:26] <heinkel_111> I will try reboot for now :(
[08:27] <mefisto__> good luck
[08:27] <heinkel_111> thanks for helping, mefisto__
[08:27] <mefisto__> np :)
[08:39] <heinkel_111> mefisto__: are you still here
[08:39] <heinkel_111> ?
[08:39] <heinkel_111> I just had 4 reboots
[08:40] <heinkel_111> and I discovered that what messes up the soundcard loading must be the usb-hotplugging
[08:40] <heinkel_111> udev is that what it is called?
[08:40] <heinkel_111> if my usb playback units are turned on at boot time
[08:41] <heinkel_111> they seem to "overwrite" the other units (for the audigy card and the onboard sound)
[08:41] <heinkel_111> it seems like udev has a way of "brute forcing" thir units on top in the boot process
[08:42] <heinkel_111> but if I leave the usb units turned off at boot, they load fine into index 3 and 4
[08:42] <heinkel_111> I mean 2 and 3
[09:01] <tripack60__> bonjour
[09:03] <tripack60__> recherche cotact dans l'oise pour ameliorer connaissance linux
[09:04] <p_quarles> !fr | tripack60__
[09:04] <tripack60__> oki dsl
[09:12] <kilani> hi peeps, i  want to to do an dist-upgrade and i get an error that says "Failed to fetch...404 Not Found [IP:141.76.2.130 80]"
[09:36] <kilani> anybody here??
[09:36] <wukai> dslfjd
[09:39] <wukai> anybody here??
[09:40] <heinkel_111> yes
[09:40] <heinkel_111> 299 nicks in the channel
[09:41] <heinkel_111> don't ask to ask, just ask
[09:43] <nahy> i type kdesudo and press enter but it returns an error (No command arguments supplied!
[09:43] <heinkel_111> nahy what do you want to do really?
[09:43] <heinkel_111> nahy kdesudo you use to run another program as root
[09:44] <heinkel_111> you must supply the name of the other program as an argument to kdesudo
[09:44] <nahy> i wanna have root prevelages to the folders to delete some
[09:44] <heinkel_111> nahy: be very careful what you delete as root
[09:45] <nahy> i know
[09:45] <heinkel_111> nahy: you can disrupt performance of your system if you do it wring
[09:45] <heinkel_111> .. wrong
[09:45] <nahy> yeah
[09:45] <heinkel_111> nahy: are you using graphical user interface or the command line in konsole?
[09:46] <nahy> konsole
[09:46] <heinkel_111> then you don't need to use kdesudo
[09:46] <heinkel_111> sudo will do
[09:46] <heinkel_111> kdesudo is only for running programs with kde graphical interface
[09:46] <nahy> i want to see the folder in graphic
[09:47] <heinkel_111> nahy.... kdesudo dolpin or kdesudo konqueror will run doplhin or konqueror as the super-user
[09:47] <heinkel_111> root
[09:47] <heinkel_111> i mean
[09:47] <nahy> i see
[09:47] <heinkel_111> but... be very careful
[09:48] <nahy> and thanx
[09:48] <nahy> sure
[09:50] <nahy> heinkel_111: i want to delete /var/cache/apt/archive  files to free up some space... is it ok?
[09:51] <heinkel_111> nahy: don't ask me, I don't know that
[09:51] <nahy> ok
[09:53] <lakis1982> does anyone of you know any good weather plasmoid for kde 4.2 showing the prediction of weather of the following days ?????  i found a couple but i cant install them .....
[10:03] <nahy> how can i activate spellcheck in konversation window?
[10:04] <nahy> i dont want to misstype
[10:07] <palbuddy> hello! I'm a KDE newbie, and I can't find info anywhere on how to download a screensaver for KDE 4.2 and have it work
[10:07] <palbuddy> can anyone help me please?!
[10:09] <sandGorgon> how do i get powerdevil to run rather than guidance power manager
[10:22] <gmathews> For an error I got after googling i got this reply -
[10:22] <gmathews> ooks like you didn't install the C++ component of gcc. So you can't
[10:22] <gmathews>  >> compile any C++ program.
[10:22] <gmathews> what package should I get for Kubuntu 8.10 to solve this
[10:25] <lakis1982> does anyone of you know any good weather plasmoid for kde 4.2 showing the prediction of weather of the following days ?????  i found a couple but i cant install them .....
[10:26] <quassel254> ciao
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[10:44] <etech> hi
[10:44] <etech> which grafical package manager is default in kubuntu jaunty?
[10:45] <sandGorgon> packagekit-qt if im not wrong etech
[10:45] <gmathews> !info kdelibs5-dev
[10:45] <sandGorgon> how do i get powerdevil to run rather than guidance power manager - i am not able to install it even, it says unmet dependence on libplasma2
[10:45] <sandGorgon> !info libplasma2
[10:48] <gmathews> !paste
[10:49] <gmathews> Hi i am trying to install a package and I get this error - please haev a look at it http://paste.ubuntu.com/112393/
[10:49] <gmathews> J #ubuntu
[10:57] <definitely> hey all
[10:58] <definitely> i have some probs, just installed Kubuntu 8.10, then updated to KDE 4.2, then installed Video drivers and tryed to reboot pc, but i wasnt able, then i presset Reset button on my PC Box, and after that Kubuntu wasnt able to load in with some errors like "Power save /Advanced Power Managament error" smth like thatr
[11:03] <definitely> anyone ?
[11:07] <CQ2> hello, my monitor isn't turning off, even though I have sleep, suspend and poweroff set to 10,20,30 mins inthe settings... any ideas?
[11:19] <jose> hi! I'm testing the kde 4.2 packages and I'm having trouble.
[11:21] <jose> when I log into kde 4.2 from gdm kde tries to start but after a couple of seconds it freezes and gdm comes back. Is this a known problem?
[11:22] <jose> I'm going to try again removing my .kde directory.
[11:23] <jose> see you!
[11:26] <jose> Great, it has worked. I've removed my old .kde and kde 4.2 has started without problems!
[11:27] <willis_> yep - i had to do that also
[11:31] <bluechild> hello
[11:32] <bluechild> it seems that i have a problem with my webcam : i have blacklisted gspca but it doesn't seem to have any effect .. any help would be appreciated because it takes a really long time to boot
[11:35] <willis_> You are saying the webcam us causing some delay when you boot?
[11:37] <andrew__> Hi
[11:38] <andrew__> Please help me with Firefox
[11:38] <andrew__> Fonts are so small. Tabs overlay page areas
[11:39] <heinkel_111> andrew__: fonts problem, try Ctrl + +
[11:39] <andrew__> I can state that all KDE fonts are too small. How to change DPI?
[11:39] <bluechild> willis_ : yes it seems it gets in some loop while trying to .. identify perhaps the camera
[11:39] <CQ> or ctrl plus the mouse wheel
[11:40] <heinkel_111> andrew__: in "system settings" (?  I don't have english version, maybe different name in english"
[11:41] <heinkel_111> andrew__: system settings > look and feel? > fonts
[11:41] <remi_> hey
[11:41] <heinkel_111> andrew__: below all the fonts lines there you should see the force ppt setting
[11:43] <andrew__> heinkel 111: tnx. I'll try to find there
[11:45] <andrew__> I can see there: Appearance, Desktop, Notifications, Window Behavior...Accessibility, ... Display... Font Installer
[11:46] <andrew__> No "Look and Feel". It is KDE 4.1
[11:47] <andrew__> Yes, I've got it
[11:47] <andrew__> Thank you all
[11:49] <andrew__> But Firefox's tabs are slill overlaying page area
[11:51] <andrew__> And 120 DPI fonts are too large. So no custom DPI setings, only 96 and 120?
[11:52] <legate> Is it possible to run something similar to "update-manager -d" to get Jaunty Alpha 3?
[11:54] <andrew__> Please also help me with TV-tuner.
[11:55] <andrew__> It has stopped working after the last kernel update. And it worked without sound before the update.
[11:57] <andrew__> All the answers I've googled was about DVB-part of the such TV-tuners. But TV broadcasting is still analog here
[11:57] <andrew__> The tuner is CopPro DVB-T300
[11:57] <andrew__> ComPro, sorry
[11:58] <gmathews> can anyone make this into a .deb ? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/todo+list?content=90706
[12:03] <luis_> hola
[12:03] <luis_> alguien sabe como se instala sholwave en kubuntu?
[12:04] <andrew__> Hi. And the last question for now: How to avoid downloading updates twice due of my having two kubuntu 8.1 computers? Is there any way to share the updates beetween them?
[12:04] <theunixgeek> I'm following this http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 to install KDE 4.2 (I'm running GNOME atm) but I get an error when running "gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -" (no quotes)
[12:05] <theunixgeek> what should I do?
[12:05] <cato> andrew__: you could use something like apt-proxy
[12:05] <cato> andrew__: or copy the contents of /var/cache/apt/.. manually
[12:05] <andrew__> cato: thanks I'll try to
[12:05] <theunixgeek> http://pastebin.com/m76086ad6
[12:13] <javi> theunixgeek: ls -l /home/patrick/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[12:14] <javi> theunixgeek: seems like you can't write to it
[12:14] <theunixgeek> javi: I'll try the command as root
[12:15] <theunixgeek> gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
[12:15] <theunixgeek> how should I fix this? :(
[12:16] <javi> that's because the owner of pbring.gpg is not root
[12:16] <theunixgeek> -rw------- 1 root root 0 2009-01-03 18:27 /home/patrick/.gnupg/pubring.gpg
[12:17] <javi> try changing the owner of pubring.gpg
[12:17] <theunixgeek> it says that root is the owner
[12:17] <theunixgeek> javi: to whom?
[12:17] <javi> to your user
[12:17] <theunixgeek> ok
[12:18] <theunixgeek> thanks, javi, that worked :)
[12:18] <javi> you're welcome
[12:18] <theunixgeek> javi: so I install kubuntu-desktop (4.1) and then upgrade to 4.2 now?
[12:19] <theunixgeek> erm... rm "now" :P
[12:19] <gmathews> theunixgeek: I have been told that there *might* be conflicts
[12:19] <theunixgeek> gmathews: oh
[12:19] <theunixgeek> thanks for that
[12:19] <gmathews> that is why i installed kubuntu as well..to check out KDE for myself
[12:19] <theunixgeek> I'll see if maybe I can get into the Jaunty packages...
[12:19] <gmathews> but it is up to you
[12:20] <theunixgeek> does intrepid-backports have 4.2?
[12:20] <theunixgeek> Oh, and I reloaded the package list in Synaptic and got this error: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[12:21] <Tadys> hi, how to instal kde 4.2 full on ubuntu 8.10 ?
[12:21] <javi> theunixgeek: have you run gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add - again after changing the owner?
[12:22] <theunixgeek> javi: yes
[12:22] <gmathews> theunixgeek: check www.kubuntu.org for instructions on the jkey
[12:23] <Tadys> kde-nightly full package 4.2 kde?
[12:24] <theunixgeek> I'll keep on trying
[12:26] <alarm> ahoi !!! , allright question one :) in kde3.5 there was an option in the system settings to handle partitions, where they are going to mount , if we want them to automount and so on. where can i find this on kde4.2 ?
[12:29] <javi> theunixgeek: that public key isn't the one from kubuntu-experimental, is it?
[12:29] <koperton> i am on on kde 3.5
[12:29] <koperton> :) sorry i don't know where you can find it on kde4.2
[12:29] <esp1> kubuntu dont have a /etc/inittab for setting default runlevel?
[12:30] <javi> theunixgeek: just add it gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv 60D11217247D1CFF && gpg --export --armor 60D11217247D1CFF | sudo apt-key add -
[12:31] <alarm> okie... how can i make my external usb hdd read only ?
[12:34] <helpdesk> hello, i am trying to conpile and configure my kernel but it's so slow . i was told i have to add the ccache to the makefile. anybody got any idea how to do this?
[12:41] <Tazjin> Hi
[12:41] <Tazjin> ;O
[12:42] <Tazjin> I've never been using KDE before but as the 4.2 screenshots look very good I wanna try it out now. I added the kubuntu-experimental repo and the key. What packages do I need to install?
[12:44] <david_edmundson> Tazjin: kubuntu-desktop should sort you out
[12:45] <david_edmundson> whoa, sorry kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[12:45] <Tazjin> k, thanks :-)
[12:45] <Tazjin> ill try it
[12:46] <jussi01> Tazjin: NO
[12:46] <Tazjin> not?
[12:46] <jussi01> Tazjin: you are on intrepid?
[12:46] <Tazjin> yes
[12:46] <jussi01> Tazjin: kubuntu-desktop should get it for you
[12:47] <Tazjin> okay ;O
[12:47] <Tazjin> jussi01: After this operation, 429MB of additional disk space will be used.
[12:47] <Tazjin> jussi01: kubuntu-kde4-desktop had the same size
[12:47] <Tazjin> wheres the difference?
[12:47] <david_edmundson> yeah, they point to the same thing
[12:47] <jussi01> Tazjin: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[12:48] <Tazjin> installing it now
[12:48] <Tazjin> I'll see :P
[12:48] <couloir> bonjour
[12:48] <couloir> quit
[12:49] <Tazjin> this channel is weird :D
[12:50] <david_edmundson> yep. and proud.
[12:50] <s0101_> #ubuntu
[13:00] <eeng> do you know if kubuntu 9.04 will have qt4.5?
[13:01] <helpdesk> eeng: u also trying to compile ur kernel?
[13:01] <eeng> no
[13:02] <Tazjin> Okay. Got it working
[13:02] <Tazjin> :-D
[13:02] <Tazjin> nice.
[13:04] <stdin> eeng: if it doesn't break anything, maybe
[13:04] <chris-rc1> hi
[13:04] <hro> I am just curious about Koffice, why is it not standard in kubuntu? not as good as OO?
[13:05] <hro> anyone tried the new 2.0 beta of koffice?
[13:05] <chris-rc1> is there a way to resize applet windows in amarok 2 and keep the size after a reboot?
[13:05] <stdin> koffice for KDE4 is not released, so we can't really ship that
[13:05] <hro> I see
[13:06] <failers> is there a way to install new drivers downloaded from nvidia thru envy or some other app , i dont dare to try install it manually i will just break it all :P
[13:06] <stdin> hro: if koffice is released and is as good (or better than OOo), then we'll definitely want to ship it
[13:07] <helpdesk> stdin: hello pal, pls i need help, while i was configuring my new kernel, i made some mistakes and now i want to go back to the initial configuration.
[13:07] <helpdesk> stdin; there is a cmd: cp .config.old .config but it aint working. pls help
[13:07] <chris-rc1> failers: i don't know of any. as far as i tried, envy sticks to a driver version as long as it stays the same version itself. but i have successfully installed the 180.25 driver myself
[13:08] <failers> chris-rc1 well what i do is ctrl alt F1 and shutdown kdm and use nvidia installer next time i reboot it only boots up a "cmd screen" like if the drivers went mad or something so :/
[13:08] <KEBA> i want to use kde 4.2 under hardy, it is as easy as under intrepid to install it?
[13:09] <stdin> helpdesk: if you didn't save your old .config, then you'll have to just delete it and start again (or copy the one from /boot/config-$(uname -r) )
[13:10] <helpdesk> stdin: how do u delete it supposing u didn't save it?
[13:10] <failers> chris-rc1 got any ideas how to go around that / fix ?
[13:11] <stdin> helpdesk: I mean the .config you have now
[13:11] <failers> 177 works flawless exept its really slow in kde
[13:12] <chris-rc1> failers: what's your specs?
[13:12] <helpdesk> stdin: when i ran the make xconfig cmd, the qconf window popped up and after making the changes, i just clicked the save icon on the window and then i entered the make cmd to compile it but it too so long that i had to terminate the process. so what next now? cuz i dont know if it was saved or something..
[13:12] <failers> geforce 9600m GT
[13:12] <david_edmundson> KEBA: it's probably rather difficult -
[13:13] <KEBA> david_edmundson: so its easier to upgrade tp intreprid and solve some problems and install kde 4.2 then?
[13:13] <stdin> helpdesk: it'll be saved to .config
[13:13] <david_edmundson> I would go with that approach
[13:13] <chris-rc1> failers: and the ubuntu version?
[13:13] <failers> kubuntu 8.10
[13:13] <failers> fresh installed
[13:14] <alarm> how can i make my external  usb hdd to be read only when mounted ?
[13:14] <helpdesk> stdin: ok i tried the cd /boot/config-$(uname -r)  cmd but didnt work so i tried cat /boot/config-$(uname -r) and a list of config files was shown. what these mean?
[13:14] <helpdesk> stdin: would u like to get the url from patebin to check it?
[13:15] <stdin> helpdesk: no, it's the .config used when the kernel you're running was compiled
[13:15] <stdin> helpdesk: just copy that to .config
[13:15] <failers> chris-rc1 i would use the 177 drriver from propreitary since it works flawless except its so damn sluggish in kde
[13:15] <helpdesk> stdin: u mean all the configuration i set when i was in the qcondf window?
[13:16] <stdin> if the kernel you're running now is the one you compiled
[13:17] <helpdesk> stdin: i did compiled it but rmember i said i terminated it .ddnt compile completely
[13:17] <stdin> then the .config should already be there
[13:17] <stdin> just run make xconfig again to edit it
[13:17] <helpdesk> stdin: ok. but the whole process of compiling is so slow
[13:18] <julio> oi tudo bem
[13:18] <helpdesk> stdin: took like 4 hrs and i couldn't wait anymore yesterday
[13:18] <popey> my kubuntu jaunty system flickers about a lot after login, then gives me a black screen with a working mouse cursor. I have deleted ~/.kde and started again, but the same thing happens. Any suggestions?
[13:18] <stdin> helpdesk: yeah, that's why ubuntu provide packages
[13:18] <Tazjin> helpdesk: always keep in mind it's not as slow as it would be in windows :P
[13:18] <helpdesk> stdin: what packages would i use?
[13:19] <eeng> for kde 4 you should use nvidia 180.27
[13:19] <stdin> the kernel package
[13:19] <helpdesk> stdin: i just tried something dont know if it will work. called the ccache
[13:19] <chris-rc1> failers: that's why i would not recommend it for intrepid. i went back to hardy because of that. try the 180.25 driver. it seems the graphical corruption bug from 180.22 is fixed there. i haven't had a hanger with 180.25 (knowck on wood)
[13:19] <stdin> helpdesk: that doesn't help the first time you compile, only after you've compiled it all at least once
[13:20] <failers> chris-rc1 ok will test it
[13:20] <helpdesk> stdin: so, for the first time, i have to wait for as long as it will?
[13:20] <stdin> yes
[13:20] <oim> hello eveyone. ı am using kubuntu 8.10 how can ı upgrade to kde 4.2?
[13:20] <stdin> oim: yes, see the link in the topic
[13:20] <chris-rc1> failers: you can find the link in the nvforums
[13:21] <stdin> popey: jaunty support is still in #ubuntu+1
[13:21] <oim> :( ok stdin
[13:21] <chris-rc1> failers: the nvidia driver overwrites the libglx.so file, which seems to cause most problems when reverting to the nv driver
[13:22] <Viincent> ciao a tutti
[13:22] <failers> chris-rc1 ok not that i understand much of that im kinda new to linux but :) thanks for explaining and helping anyway
[13:22] <dennister> gm channel...having trouble with printing to my local parallel port laserjet 4...was configured properly, and now the ipp report says "Unable to open device file "/dev/lp0": Permission denied'
[13:22] <failers> chris-rc1 i do understand where to get driver and install so dont worry about that ^^
[13:22] <helpdesk> stdin: what happens after the whole programme finish compiling and i decided to use the cmd make clean?
[13:22] <Viincent> sto installando kde 4.2, mi viene chiesto di rimuovere i vecchi pacchetti plasma, cosa sono?
[13:22] <chris-rc1> failers: if it doesn't work, look at your xorg.log file. nvidia is pretty verbous about their errors (the only good thing about the drivers)
[13:23] <popey> stdin: yeah, just asked there too
[13:23] <dennister> anyone know what gives here? and how to fix?
[13:23] <failers> chris-rc1 oh cool didnt know there was a "error log file"
[13:24] <stdin> helpdesk: that'll remove all the .o files
[13:24] <chris-rc1> failers: in /var/log i think. where all the logs are
[13:24] <failers> oki
[13:24] <helpdesk> stdin: would it have any effect on my kernel?
[13:24] <stdin> no
[13:24] <helpdesk> stdin: i am trying to use all the make cmnds to see what happens.
[13:24] <stdin> helpdesk: you can try ##linux for support with this, it's not really related to kubuntu
[13:25] <Christopher_Were> would anyone be able to help me. my computer randomly freezes and i don't know what to do about it. i think its related to my radeon graphics card
[13:27] <CQ> Christopher_Were: chel in /var/log files like syslog and messages to see what the last events are at the freeze
[13:27] <failers> chris-rc1 on nvidias ftp there is 3 different 180.25 drivers , pkg0 pkg1 pkg2 wich should i use?
[13:27] <CQ> check
[13:27] <dennister> anyone for help with kde printing?
[13:28] <chris-rc1> according to the readme, one should always choose the highest pkg number
[13:28] <failers> ok
[13:28] <chris-rc1> but good to know there is a new one out
[13:28] <failers> 180.27 is also out
[13:29] <failers> think im gonna test that one first
[13:29] <kaddi> how can i take a screenshot with kubuntu?
[13:30] <CQ> helpdesk ususally make clean cleans out all of the compiled and build files that make created
[13:30] <Christopher_Were> before the last crash this is the last entry in syslog - Feb  1 03:36:46 cw-desktop NetworkManager: <WARN>  list_connections_cb(): Couldn't retrieve connections: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken..
[13:30] <david_edmundson> kaddi: load ksnapthot
[13:30] <failers> ksnapshot
[13:30] <CQ> Christopher_Were: that's a WARN level message, those and DEBUG are not critical... anythign with ERROR?
[13:31] <Christopher_Were> nothing with any errors
[13:31] <chris-rc1> failers: oh cool. thx
[13:31] <kaddi> david_edmundson ah thanks...  :)
[13:31] <CQ> Christopher_Were: look in teh X server logs as well maybe?
[13:31] <david_edmundson> failers: too slow :-P
[13:32] <failers> :)
[13:32] <chris-rc1> failers: strange that they still haven't updated their download index
[13:32] <failers> yea
[13:33] <Christopher_Were> where can i find the xserver logs?
[13:34] <helpdesk> stdin: there is something i wanna ask u
[13:34] <thomas> /var/log/xorg.log
[13:34] <CQ> X server logs are under  /var/logs/X11 ... look into other files as well, all logs are there, somewhere there's probably a hint about what's wrong
[13:34] <helpdesk> after doing my configuration, the cmd line writes this: configuration written to .config
[13:36] <Christopher_Were> i cant find /var/logs/X11
[13:36] <CQ> sorry, /var/log/Xorg.log
[13:36] <CQ> helpdesk: make clean doesn't remove that, make distclean should remove it. That's an autoconf file
[13:37] <failers> chris-rc1 hm didnt 180.27 didnt help when starting x server again i just see my cursor fast and then back to the cmd screen :/
[13:37] <Christopher_Were> i only have a xorg.0.log
[13:38] <oim> hi again ı read the link on topic. but ı couldn2t install kde 4.2 :( how can ı do it (ı am usin kde 4.1)
[13:39] <failers> chris-rc1 in the log file it says failed to initialize the nvidia kernel module please ensure that there is a supported nvidia gpu, and screens found but none have a usable configureation and fatal server error: no screens found
[13:39] <failers> :/
[13:39] <chris-rc1> failers: have you said yes to configuring xorg.conf file?
[13:40] <failers> yep
[13:40] <chris-rc1> do lsmod | grep nvidia
[13:41] <failers> nvidia 7815240 0 , i2c_core 36128 1 nvidia
[13:41] <failers> thats the output
[13:41] <Christopher_Were> i cant find any log whatsoever for the freezes
[13:42] <oim> :) heh he sorry. i must just update packages :P
[13:42] <failers> Christopher_Were maybe it isnt kubuntus fault maybe you got a faulty hardware thats freezin :o ?
[13:42] <chris-rc1> failers: try rmmod nvidia, then modprobe nvidia
[13:43] <failers> done
[13:43] <Christopher_Were> it could be my hardware, but i did hear that x has bugs in it when it comes to copeing with radeon cards
[13:43] <oim> but must ı unistall plasmoid ?? before instaling kde 4.2
[13:44] <failers> chris-rc1 after that? :)
[13:46] <failers> still same error after those commands when doing startx
[13:46] <chris-rc1> did it load the module properly?
[13:47] <failers> well i did those commands and not output about error or anything so i guess it worked :P ?
[13:48] <chris-rc1> ok. two things. look at the release notes and see if 9600 cards are supported since they are fairly new
[13:48] <alarm> how can i make my external  usb hdd to be read only when mounted  (on kde4.2) ?
[13:49] <chris-rc1> the other: open your xorg.conf file and post it on pastebin. i might be able to help you then (or anybody else)
[13:49] <failers> oki
[13:51] <failers> chris-rc1 http://pastebin.com/m7d4543eb
[13:52] <failers> ops exept i changed driver to "nv" just so i could get my x server running again
[13:52] <failers> it should be nvidia
[13:52] <sorset> hi, i have a problem, kubuntu 8.10 cannot find my nokia phon in data storage mod as flash memory, but i didnt have this problem in privious versions of kubuntu
[13:52] <sorset> how can i fix it?
[13:52] <failers> so chris-rc1 http://pastebin.com/m4503d650 thats the original one ^^
[13:52] <chris-rc1> failers: have you tried it with nvidia?
[13:53] <failers> ye thats what it is from beginning
[13:53] <failers> and x server fails
[13:53] <failers> so i change it to "nv" so x server just use some standard graphic driver or something so i could get it running :P
[13:53] <sorset> is it kernel problem?
[13:53] <chris-rc1> failers: did you get it running?
[13:54] <sorset> i have this problem with my flash memory too!
[13:54] <failers> with nv yes x server is running but i got compiz and other 3d effects aint working
[13:54] <failers> think its using kubuntus standard graphic driver or something like if i would delete the whole xorg.conf
[13:54] <Trijntje> what can cause movies to lag after a few minutes playing?
[13:55] <failers> Trijntje wich movies?
[13:55] <Trijntje> failers: all, avi, flash etc
[13:55] <failers> Trijntje if its HD movies example 1080p its your cpu :P
[13:55] <dennister> anyone for help with cups printing to local printer?
[13:55] <Tazjin> i had the same problem Trijntje
[13:55] <Tazjin> installed VLC and used that
[13:56] <Christopher_Were> is it true x has bugs in it when it comes to dealing with ATI radeon cards, because mine keeps freezing ad im not sure whether or not it's hardware or software. it hangs alot more when playing games or have desktop effects switched on.
[13:56] <chris-rc1> failers: nv doesn't have 3d support so compiz cannot work
[13:56] <failers> ok
[13:56] <chris-rc1> can you pls also paste your xorg.log?
[13:56] <failers> ofc
[13:58] <failers> chris-rc1 hm its kinda long :P
[13:58] <Trijntje> failers: haha, no, flash on youtube also laggs. It didnt do that in xp..
[13:58] <failers> can i empty it and redo startx to just get 1 error :P ?
[13:58] <failers> Trijntje oki ^^
[14:01] <Christopher_Were> so no-one can help me with my problem with freezes
[14:01] <J3ster> hehe
[14:03] <chris-rc1> failers: just give me the last 40 lines or so
[14:03] <failers> chris-rc1 here is xorg log http://pastebin.com/m5e813bcd
[14:04] <failers> i did empty it and redid whole process just to make it smaller ^^
[14:04] <dennister> could someone please help me print? don't know why, all of a sudden, I don't have permissioon on /dev/lp0
[14:04] <dennister> it WAS working fine, now...
[14:05] <failers> you could chmod it dennister
[14:05] <failers> !chmod
[14:06] <failers> hm
[14:06] <failers> that didnt help much ubottu :P
[14:08] <dennister> failers: will try, but found it wierd that location was on lpt1, and error message references /dev/lp0, which I don't have in my /dev/ directory
[14:12] <failers> chris-rc1 hm that error log got wrong when i loaded "nv" didnt it?
[14:13] <dennister> failers: omg...i would have tried that earlier, (it worked) except for the fact that /dev/lp0 wasn't in the /dev/ directory...and it had worked properly before I tried to publish the laser printer on network :(
[14:14] <failers> ok
[14:14] <dennister> why wouldn't there be any mention of /dev/lp0 in /dev?
[14:14] <chris-rc1> failers: yes
[14:15] <failers> hm :/ maybe i must load nvidia again and cp it to a usb stick and transfer it here then or got any other solution
[14:16] <chris-rc1> failers: i missed that there is only written "nv", not "nvidia" :-) so no use. just go back in the log file and paste the part from the beginning of the x server start to the break
[14:17] <failers> well it was the whole log so
[14:22] <chris-rc1> oh, ok
[14:22] <chris-rc1> one sec
[14:23] <failers> chris-rc1 http://pastebin.com/m28c3e3a9
[14:23] <failers> with right module loaded :P
[14:28] <manumar> #kubuntu-es
[14:30] <manumar> hi
[14:30] <manumar> someone can helpme?
[14:31] <manumar> is a very easy thing i think but Im new in this world
[14:31] <manumar> xD
[14:31] <manumar> someone?
[14:31] <chris-rc1> failers: go to /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/
[14:31] <kaddi> just ask, don't ask to ask :)
[14:31] <failers> oki
[14:31] <chris-rc1> do an ls -l and tell me the output for libglx.so
[14:32] <failers> want me to load nvidia first?
[14:32] <failers> im sitting on nv right now
[14:33] <chris-rc1> no
[14:33] <chris-rc1> just need the line
[14:33] <manumar> someone can run a trackmania nations server?
[14:33] <failers> http://pastebin.com/mc0df824
[14:33] <failers> there is output
[14:34] <chris-rc1> you could have pasted the line here ;-)
[14:34] <chris-rc1> that seems to be correct
[14:34] <chris-rc1> you can do a google search on the error message
[14:35] <chris-rc1> maybe the card is not supported yet, but i doubt that
[14:35] <chris-rc1> have you tried to reinstall the driver?
[14:36] <failers> uhm reinstall? i have only tryed install it from fresh kubuntu install :P
[14:36] <failers> sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx ?
[14:40] <chris-rc1> you have installed via sh package, right?
[14:40] <chris-rc1> is nvidia-glx installed?
[14:40] <failers> idk :o
[14:40] <intel> hi
[14:40] <failers> i just killed x server sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-180.27-pkg2.run
[14:40] <failers> and did the install
[14:40] <failers> and here i am
[14:40] <failers> :)
[14:41] <spawn57> w00t
[14:41] <intel> hey do you know how can i remove kde 4.1 becaus now i have kde 4.1 and kde 4.2
[14:41] <intel> i want to set kde 4.2 as default
[14:42] <rocme> hmpf... i'm tryng to get knotify working...
[14:42] <rocme> but "$ dcop knotify default notify eventname appname 'Hello world!' '' '' 2 0
[14:42] <rocme> "
[14:42] <jeremie> hey can someone help me i want to install playonlinux
[14:42] <rocme> just throws "object not accessible"
[14:42] <rocme> what does that mean?
[14:43] <cdavis> what is the method I should read about to push kde4 theme type settings to gtk apps?
[14:43] <failers> chris-rc1 in my xorg.conf shouldnt "Monitor" identifier be the same as "Screen" identifier
[14:45] <chris-rc1> failers: i just compared it to my own and it looked the same
[14:46] <failers> oki
[14:46] <chris-rc1> but screen defines the device and the monitor i think
[14:47] <failers> hmm chris-rc1 got a new error now Error: API mismatch: the NVIDIA kernel module has version 177.82, but NVIDIA driver component has 180.27
[14:47] <chris-rc1> can you uninstall the nvidia binary packages that come with ubuntu?
[14:47] <chris-rc1> oh yes, ok, we can solve this one
[14:47] <alarm> how can i make my external  usb hdd to be read only when mounted  (on kde4.2) ?
[14:47] <chris-rc1> what did you change?
[14:48] <failers> screen identifier to same as Monitor identifier and changed in "ServerLayout" to Monitor0 also
[14:48] <akash> How do I upgrade from Gutsy to Intrepid using the CD send by Kubuntu??
[14:50] <intel> people help
[14:50] <intel> i have installled kde 4.1 and 4.2
[14:50] <j0nnyx> I NEED HELP!
[14:50] <intel> but i want to set kde4.2 as default
[14:50] <intel> and delete 4.1
[14:50] <j0nnyx> with my kubuntu !! :)
[14:50] <chris-rc1> failers: i must have missed sth
[14:50] <j0nnyx> ...i can install anythink by apt-get
[14:51] <failers> chris-rc1 oki ^^
[14:51] <j0nnyx> i need complete source.list
[14:51] <j0nnyx> who can help me !?
[14:51] <j0nnyx> please
[14:51] <failers> j0nnyx try apt-get update
[14:51] <j0nnyx> i try
[14:51] <chris-rc1> failers: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=650161
[14:51] <helpdesk> anyone knows how i culd copy the files from my ubuntu os to my flash?
[14:52] <chris-rc1> you have to remove the restricted packages
[14:52] <helpdesk> dont know how to do this in linux
[14:52] <chris-rc1> then re-install the driver
[14:52] <j0nnyx> but when i do update, them still crash on 99%
[14:52] <failers> chris-rc1 oki
[14:52] <akash> PLease somebody...throw some light regarding Upgradation to INtrepid...
[14:52] <j0nnyx> where i can download full source.list ?
[14:53] <j0nnyx> failers: where i can download full source.list ?
[14:53] <AliTarihi> Hi everybody. Amarok 2 does not play anything from the collection. Any idea?
[14:54] <th3_b0b> AliTarihi: Have you tried any other program to make sure it's amarok, and not e.g. your soundbackend?
[14:55] <rocme> helpdesk: where is the problem?
[14:56] <j0nnyx> I NEED HELP WITH SOURCE.LIST
[14:56] <j0nnyx> please help me! :(
[14:56] <helpdesk> j0nnyx: what kinda help u need with source.list?
[14:56] <xgus> where can i find woh to enable my bluetooth radio ?
[14:57] <j0nnyx> i cant install anythink, when i try apt-get update, them crash will be in 99%, when i try upgrade them stil error on 99%
[14:57] <Tazjin> on what repository?
[14:58] <xgus> i got a dell studi 1535
[14:58] <xgus> studio 1535
[14:59] <j0nnyx> Tazjin ... moment
[15:00] <th3_b0b> xgus: did you read this: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BluetoothSetup ?
[15:00] <helpdesk> j0nnyx; what error exactly is it giving ya?
[15:00] <AliTarihi> th3_b0b: It did work, on #amrok I discovered an ff-mpeg biding should be installed! Yet I don't see why Amarok says nothing about it.
[15:00] <xgus> nop, letme take a look on that, thanks
[15:01] <failers> omg chris-rc1 thank you it works now the problem from the beginning was that the old drivers conflicted with the new thx thx you are my god now :D
[15:02] <th3_b0b> AliTarihi: I don't know, I guess you need to ask one of the amarok-devs why they didn't implement an error message for that ;)
[15:03] <chris-rc1> failers: glad i could help ;-)
[15:03] <jco> hi, can someone paste me the result of the followin command? Thanks :)       dpkg -S `which rename`
[15:03] <th3_b0b> AliTarihi: did you try running amarok2 from a terminal? most times, you get quite verbose output there even if no graphical error messages are shown.
[15:04] <BiNaRi0> hi everyone
[15:04] <BiNaRi0> keyserver.ubuntu.com is down
[15:04] <AliTarihi> AliTarihi: I said it worked by installing an ff-mpeg binding :)
[15:05] <nashk> Hi, I have kde 4.2 on 8.10. Every is smooth except for minimizing/maximing (it holds for a second before actuall doing it), shutdown dialogue takes forever to come up, and dashboard activation takes about 6 seconds. Anyone experiencing these things?
[15:05] <BiNaRi0> does anyone know what happened ?
[15:05] <nashk> All these things never happened on 4.1
[15:06] <th3_b0b> AliTarihi: I meant it as a general tip ;)
[15:06] <AliTarihi> th3_b0b: thx for it ;)
[15:07] <Machtin> hey guys.. i wonder how i can play an .evo-file.. anyone any idea? or any idea where to find out.. haven't had luck with google.
[15:08] <Tazjin> what is .evo?
[15:09] <th3_b0b> jco: Says "Not found" on my machine... maybe because is a symlink...
[15:09] <Machtin> Tazjin: i think it's enhanced .vob or something.
[15:10] <Machtin> however: video-format for hd-stuff
[15:10] <Tazjin> "EVO - EnVideo Video"
[15:10] <Tazjin> hm
[15:10] <Tazjin> tried VLC?
[15:11] <Machtin> yup
[15:11] <Machtin> and kaffeine, and xine, and mplayer and dragon player.
[15:11] <jco> th3_b0b: oh... to what? I'm interested in the package providing that script, and packages.ubuntu.com didn't help :(
[15:11] <failers> Tazjin is that you from wow emu scene :P ?
[15:11] <Tazjin> yes
[15:11] <failers> world is small i see
[15:11] <Tazjin> yep
[15:11] <Tazjin> especially the geek world
[15:11] <Tazjin> lol
[15:11] <failers> i can bet you never know who i am ^^
[15:12] <Machtin> :>
[15:12] <j0nnyx> Tazjin:
[15:12] <Tazjin> I've seen your name before
[15:12] <failers> im closer to you than you think :P
[15:12] <Tazjin> :O
[15:12] <xgus> ;O
[15:12] <Machtin> zomg stalker :D
[15:12] <failers> i am the one that got a glider cd key from you :P
[15:12]  * Tazjin closes the window
[15:12] <Tazjin> oh
[15:12] <failers> ^^
[15:12] <th3_b0b> jco: try an "ls -l /usr/bin/rename". on my machine, it points to "/etc/alternatives/rename" and from there to "/usr/bin/prename", which is part of the perl-package
[15:12] <failers> i meant close in relation ship not distance near each other :P
[15:13] <jco> th3_b0b: wow, in the perl package? Ok, thanks anyway :)
[15:14] <th3_b0b> jco: On my system at least... But I think it's standard
[15:14] <xgus> th3_b0b: thanks it worked just fine
[15:15] <th3_b0b> xgus: you're welcome :D
[15:15] <jco> th3_b0b: I think too, I don't have a Ubuntu system here right now, I just though I could download the package and "alien" it
[15:15] <th3_b0b> jco: ah ok :)
[15:17] <Aison> are there some OpenJDK 7 packages?
[15:17] <Aison> somewhere?
[15:18] <alarm> how can i make my external  usb hdd to be read only when mounted  (on kde4.2) ?
[15:21] <siva> hello
[15:21] <siva> can anyone help me here?
[15:23] <enig> I have a problem when trying to install 3DSMax using WINE. THe installer is programmed to get the cache files to the C:\ disk before it can install, but in Linux that can be a little difficult. How can i By-pass this problem??
[15:26] <andrew__> Hello
[15:27] <xgus> enig: have you tried insted of WINE xVM ?
[15:27] <andrew__> Please help me with sound. I have no sound from TV tuner. The tuner is ComPro T300. (SAA7134)
[15:28] <andrew__> I can only see video, no sound
[15:29] <enig> xgus: well no i haven't. but since the installer tried to get some files to the C:\ disk i thought it didn't matter
[15:30] <alarm> where can i find the mount settings for external usb devices ? i need to change the rw to ro option
[15:30] <alarm> so when its being mounted to be mounted with read only access
[15:31] <enig> btw what is xVM? all i could find with VM is a volume manager -_-''
[15:32] <xgus> Sun xVM VirtualBox   www.sun.com
[15:33] <enig> Oh ok. but i think i found a way to reverse that C:\ problem. i just saw a little something like that in wine
[15:39] <enig> Had to create the folder for the C: disk manually. i dunno why WINE didn't created it.. :x
[15:39] <enig> lets see if it works now
[15:39] <enig> no. still giving me an erro
[15:40] <KDesk> hi
[15:41] <KDesk> Is possible to know which package provides an archive?
[15:41] <malv> kde feels so close to perfect, if not for these annoying bugs. I feel like going in and fixing them myself.
[15:41] <JontheEchidna> an archive?
[15:42] <failers> malv wich bugs :o
[15:42] <malv> graphical corruption issues
[15:42] <enig> kde 4.2 really improved a lot of stuff
[15:42] <enig> in video playback and graphical bugs
[15:42] <malv> i keep encountering bugs, but someone i suspect that all of them except for the comic plasmoid are related to the nvidia driver
[15:42] <malv> somehow*
[15:43] <malv> do you get any graphical corruption with the launcher?
[15:43] <KDesk> JontheEchidna: Yes, an archive for example in /bin/foo or a lib in a package, like the command "rpm -q --provides" but for deb of course
[15:43] <malv> sometimes icons will overlap or be placed in strange locations
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> oh, a file
[15:43] <oim_> hi ı upgrade to kde 4,2 but the desktop effects are not working. and window decoration does not change
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> !find /usr/bin/ld
[15:44] <malv> also, firefox tabs have a weird appearance
[15:44] <failers> malv test get newest nvidia driver 180.27
[15:44] <malv> that's what I am using
[15:44] <failers> oh ok :)
[15:44] <oim_> hi ı upgrade to kde 4,2 but the desktop effects are not working. and window decoration does not change
[15:44] <malv> it didn't seem to fix the corruption issues in the systray
[15:44] <enig> Hey i can open disk C: (emulated by wine), but when i try to install it says it can't unpack cache to the C:/windows/temp/...
[15:44] <franc> bonjour à tous
[15:45] <KDesk> JontheEchidna: oh, that is interesting :) But exists the same option but not in the channel, like with dpkg?
[15:45] <malv> are there actually people using the nvidia driver without system tray corruption?
[15:45] <enig> Why is this happening when Wine has already a emulated C: disck?
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> KDesk: there is a program called apt-file
[15:45] <oim_> hi ı upgrade to kde 4,2 but the desktop effects are not working. and window decoration does not change
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> oh, but if you know the full file name
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> dpkg -S /usr/bin/ld
[15:47] <KDesk> JontheEchidna: That is what I was searching for, thank you!
[15:47] <JontheEchidna> yw
[15:48] <Tazjin>                
[15:48] <enig> Can anyone explain me how can i search the emulated C:/ disk of WINE but the 3dsMax Installer can't extract the cache files to it?
[15:49] <franc> where and what can i download to hear radio in real time with kubuntu?
[15:50] <oim_> hi ı upgrade to kde 4,2 but the desktop effects are not working. and window decoration does not change
[15:51] <kaddi> franc: you could simply use amarok, that's what i do. :)
[15:52] <franc> thank's i try immediatly
[15:53] <enig> oh btw i just downloaded a deb file of virtual box. how do i instal it?
[15:54] <enig> only used synaptic till now
[15:54] <enig> :x
[15:54] <Dr_willis_> double click.. or use dpkg -i whatever.deb
[15:54] <Dr_willis_> with a sudo :)
[15:54] <enig> ty :]
[15:55] <oim_> hi ı upgrade to kde 4,2 but the desktop effects are not working. and window decoration does not change
[15:55] <d_mitry> kubuntu 8.10. sometimes, the system experiences a hang such that i can move the cursor, but the display does not change, the keyboard is disabled and amarok doesn't stop playing. didn't happen in 8.04 is there a way to recover without restarting?
[15:56] <kaddi> enig: you might try your luck in the Wine channel, maybe they can tell you why it isn't working: #WineHQ
[15:57] <xgus_> #WineHQ
[16:01] <faydriss> where is the creativity there? you would think it would be #wine0
[16:01] <franc> ok,but is there a possibility to hear france inter in real time ?
[16:02] <Dr_willis_> huh?
[16:04] <helpdesk> Dr_willis: pls could u help me out with this url:http://paste.ubuntu.com/112464/?
[16:04] <helpdesk> Dr_willis: dont know what to do the last question in the statement
[16:05] <kaddi> franc: what isn't working
[16:05] <Dr_willis_>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/112464/
[16:06] <helpdesk> Dr_willis: yes
[16:06] <Dr_willis_> don t put exttra chacacters around  the urls... i canr click on them :)\
[16:06] <helpdesk> ok
[16:07] <Dr_willis_> no idea  on the uestion. - when in doubt use the default i guess]
[16:07] <Dr_willis_> ive never needed to compile a kernel under ubuntu
[16:07] <helpdesk> what's the default?
[16:08] <Dr_willis_> just hit enter?
[16:08] <Dillizar> !kopete
[16:09] <Dillizar> what i need to type in terminal to get the latest version of kopete
[16:10] <kaddi> franc: go to this site: http://www.radiofrance.fr/services/aide/difflive.php#mp3 and select the radio stream you'd like to listen to... it should ask you whether to open or save the file...choose "open with amarok" and you should be good to go
[16:13] <bopferman> Hello, I am using kde 4.2 under Intrepid and cannot get the LCD weather widget to accept a US location through NOAA.  It always says the place is not valid... the data source is not able to find the place. Any ideas  on how to fix this one?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[16:14] <faydriss> did you try to choose another?
[16:15] <bopferman> The other options are for canada, and BBC UK
[16:15] <Dr_willis_> bopferman,  enter zip code? it worked here
[16:15] <bopferman> the zip code is not working for me.
[16:16] <bopferman> I get a popup window about an Invalid Place
[16:16] <AliTarihi> I'm facing Kontact crash on startup in 8.10/KDE 4.2, anyone with the same experience?
[16:17] <enig> Oh is there a software to emulate cdrom disks similar Alcohol 120%?
[16:17] <Dr_willis_> enig,  linux dosent need it.
[16:17] <Dr_willis_> you can mount a .iso file  - been able to do it for years. befor alcohos120 was even made.
[16:17] <Dr_willis_> :)
[16:17] <Dr_willis_> !iso
[16:18] <breach23> enig: mount the iso as a loop device
[16:18] <enig> oh it's that simple? lol
[16:18] <Dr_willis_> Linux - making hard tasks trivial
[16:18] <Dr_willis_> :)
[16:18] <Dr_willis_> and trivial tasks - unneeded
[16:18] <enig> lol
[16:18] <Dr_willis_> !info fuseiso
[16:18] <enig> and making easy taks damn hard xD
[16:19] <Dr_willis_> fuseiso foobar.iso  Placetosee
[16:19] <breach23> it gets complicated with nonstandard formats: nrg, mdf, toast
[16:21] <Dr_willis_> fuseiso can do a lot of those
[16:21] <Dr_willis_> `nonsandard formats who main use is to let people pirate/get around game copy protection :)
[16:22] <breach23> wasted a whole day on an annoying toast image
[16:22] <failers> !fstab
[16:22] <petra> !radius
[16:22] <petra> !Radius
[16:22] <Dr_willis_> !find radius
[16:23] <Dr_willis_> !info freeradius
[16:23] <Dr_willis_> whatever radius is....
[16:24] <petra> thanks!
[16:25] <enig> i installed the fuseiso packages
[16:25] <enig> but where is it?
[16:25] <enig> -_-''
[16:25] <Dr_willis_> man fuseiso
[16:25] <Dr_willis_> where do you expect it?
[16:25] <Dr_willis_> its a cli app :)
[16:25] <enig> cli? explain like i am 5 years old :]
[16:26] <breach23> any bluetooth developments yet? may have to go back to GNOME
[16:26] <failers> hm i need some guide to mount my sda2 and sdb1 in my home directoyr
[16:27] <Dr_willis_> mkdir /home/username/sda1
[16:27] <Dr_willis_> sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/username/sda1
[16:27] <Dr_willis_> :)
[16:27] <failers> will it be saved after reboot also?
[16:27] <breach23> doesn't sound like a good idea failers
[16:27] <Dr_willis_> no
[16:27] <failers> breach23 why not :o ?
[16:28] <Dr_willis_> i would suggest mounting them to /media/ and then make a link FROM the users home dir/whatever to the /media/whatever place
[16:28] <Dr_willis_> !fstab  | failers
[16:28] <breach23> use /mnt or /media for that
[16:29] <failers> because :P?
[16:29] <Dr_willis_> its the standard place to put things
[16:30] <failers> yes but why is it better then what you first said sudo mount /dev/sda1 /home/username/downloads :P
[16:30] <breach23> failers: there's a control panel setting that lets you configure this without messing with fstab
[16:30] <failers> breach23 :o where?
[16:32] <breach23> not at my desktop now, should be under kcontrol somewhere
[16:32] <Dr_willis_> You may also need to use some options - depending on the filesystem
[16:33] <failers> Dr_willis_ ok
[16:33] <failers> breach23 kcontrol :S ? dont laugh but im new to linux ^^
[16:33] <Dr_willis_> !ntfs-3g
[16:34] <breach23> hit Alt-F2, type kcontrol
[16:34] <malv> i like the full screen feature of kde4. I can actually make a terminal fullscreen and get rid of the annoying taskbar distraction
[16:34] <failers> nothing happends
[16:35] <failers> breach23 dont think i got it
[16:35] <breach23> was kcontrol taken out of kde4?
[16:36] <failers> command not found if i do it terminal way
[16:36] <failers> so i guess i dont got it
[16:36] <breach23> i don't use it yet, need bluetooth
[16:36] <hurra> breach23: it's called systemsettings now
[16:36] <Dr_willis_> kde4 no longer has kcontrolol
[16:36] <Dr_willis_> i think
[16:37] <breach23> system settings was also in kde3, limited options, i like to have options
[16:37] <failers> oh its under grub editor / tools / view devices info
[16:37] <failers> thx found
[16:38] <Dr_willis_> thats a weird place to alter mountpojjnts
[16:38] <breach23> hold on, there's disk and filesystems under the advanced tab in system settings
[16:39] <failers> no
[16:39] <failers> it aint :|
[16:39] <judgen> Is there any way of getting the classic kde3 start menu in kde4?
[16:39] <failers> judgen right click on the menu and choose classic
[16:40] <judgen> failers awsome
[16:40] <judgen> thanks
[16:40] <failers> oh what ever i got what i wanted thx breach23 and Dr_willis_ anyway
[16:41] <breach23> glad to be of very little help failers
[16:43] <judgen> in vmware, is there a way of doing ctrl+alt+bckspc
[16:46] <failers> hm is there a way to auto turn of touchpad on boot
[16:47] <failers> i got this cute key on my laptop wich i can turn it on but kinda annoying to always have to turn it off since i use it very rarely
[16:47] <judgen> in kde 4.0 i could disable plasma by just deleting plasma from usr/bin, anyone know why this does not work anymore?
[16:48] <alberto_> #kubuntu-ar
[16:51] <franc_> bonjour, comment faire tourner une application vista sous kubuntu?
[16:51] <Lupus-SLE> !fr
[16:52] <Lupus-SLE> Good evening all... anybody know how I can stop Kmix and Knetworkmanager from starting upon login? On Kubuntu Intrepid/KDE 4.1/x86
[16:52] <franc_> ok, hi how to run an vista apply under kubuntu?
[16:53] <Lupus-SLE> !wine
[16:53] <franc_> thanks
[16:57] <petra> !dialupadmin
[16:59] <judgen> what is the name of the binary for the kde4 kicker?
[17:12] <olimpico> Can someone tell me if the update from 8.04.1 to 8.04.2 happens automatically if I "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[17:13] <failers> wont you get 8.10 by doing that?
[17:13] <failers> i dont know cuz im kinda new to linux but :)
[17:15] <Megatherium> Newb question: which version of KDE does the current Kubuntu version (Ibex) ship with?
[17:16] <enig> Hey i used Fuseiso to mount a ISO file with the -p option. where is the ISo mounted? i tried media and mnt
[17:16] <enig> no luck
[17:16] <enig> :s
[17:17] <olimpico> failers: NO, you don't get 8.10
[17:18] <rgreening> dist-upgrade isn't actually for updating to latest dist version. Try man apt-get to learn more about apt.
[17:18] <rgreening> olimpico: yes, thats the correct command
[17:18] <PSiL0> Megatherium: 4.1.2
[17:24] <Megatherium> PSiL0: Thanks... I guess I'll be going with 8.04, then.
[17:26] <enig> Hello. i was reading about a script that makes the fuse iso mount automaticly. but it's for ubuntu and it says to save the file to <user>/.gnome2/nautilus-scripts/
[17:26] <enig> But since i'm using Kubuntu gnome aint suposed to be there right?
[17:27] <enig> where should i put it then?
[17:30] <gmathews> Hi, is it safe to get the icons in the 'System Settings Tab' using get new themes - I have been reading about icons not really working in KDE 4
[17:33] <majinbu> hello
[17:37] <giz> hi majinbu
[17:37] <thedark> hello everyone
[17:37] <Xsss4hell> hi
[17:38] <thedark> I am trying to set krecorder to record from my soundcard
[17:38] <Xsss4hell> howto install bluetooth devices in kubuntu jaunty jackalope?
[17:38] <thedark> does anyone know how I could set this up?
[17:38] <thedark> I went to Audio Manager
[17:38] <thedark> and set Krecord In to Soundcard out
[17:38] <thedark> but still it doesn't record anything
[17:39] <dstar_> Does anyone here use the ATI Catalyst drivers?
[17:39] <Xsss4hell> I dismissed gnome today, let's say hooraay. I used it for 4 years or longer
[17:39] <Xsss4hell> now  I'm with K4.2.x and totally happy till now
[17:40] <Xsss4hell> let's see :)
[17:40] <gmathews> Xsss4hell: using a fresh install of Kubuntu?
[17:40] <Xsss4hell> yep
[17:40] <Xsss4hell> gmathews: yep
[17:40] <gmathews> sweet me too :)
[17:40] <Xsss4hell> dstar_: better ask adamk on #compiz. or ask your question directly
[17:41] <gmathews> Xsss4hell: why did you try the Jaunty route?
[17:41] <Xsss4hell> gmathews: It's not that a gui can impress me, I use freebsd also, so.. But the technology inside
[17:42] <andrew__> Hello. Please help me with sound. I have no sound from TV-tuner based on SAA7134
[17:42] <gmathews> ah i see. I am still a relative n00b. Used Ubuntu for about 6 months. Installed Kubuntu 2 days ago
[17:42] <Xsss4hell> gmathews: because I want to try things out. and a3 is currently pretty stable and the next release is not far enough, so I know the freeze is coming near
[17:43] <Xsss4hell> The last time I used kde  was  2003 :D
[17:43] <thedark> should I not have krec in set to soundcard out?
[17:43] <Xsss4hell> was about time
[17:43] <thedark> I tried vice versa as well
[17:43] <thedark> but no sound
[17:44] <thedark> AHHHHHHH why is everything so simple so complicated
[17:45] <Xsss4hell> thedark: that's the nature of simple things ;)
[17:46] <thedark> its just a bad computing day for me
[17:46] <Xsss4hell> thedark: I don`t know krecord, but why don't you try audacity to record? it should work
[17:46] <dstar_> I'm trying to figure out how to do two things: 1) Ensure that the X framebuffer is big enough for my external monitor (1680x1050) even if it's not attached when X starts 2) Figure out how I need to configure things so that I can use both monitors (not at the same time, I just want to be able to switch back and forth) and still have 3D acceleration.
[17:46] <kaddi> i'd like to take a look at kde 4.2 and have been following the installationguide on upgrading with intrepid. Halfway down the guide asks to uninstall all plasmoids...
[17:46] <Xsss4hell> dstar_: easy^
[17:46] <dstar_> I found something that says that 3D acceleration with two displays is only supported with BigDesktop setup, but I can't figure out what BigDesktop is.
[17:47] <thedark> audaicty doesn't work either
[17:47] <kaddi> but i don't even really know what these are, I've never used them. Is it safe to assume that I have no plasmoids install or are there some default plasmoids i ned to uninstall
[17:47] <Xsss4hell> dstar_: btw, the framebuffer is irrelevant
[17:47] <thedark> it has 4 options for audio in
[17:47] <gmathews> thedark: audacity has been known to not work in Ubuntu - there is a bug filed for it
[17:47] <Xsss4hell> dstar_ it should be sufficient
[17:47] <thedark> AHHH so how do I use krecord?
[17:48] <thedark> sound comes out of my speakers, I can listent o music fine
[17:48] <gmathews> thedark: Intrepid that is
[17:48] <Xsss4hell> no idea^ donnt know that app
[17:48] <thedark> I use skype
[17:48] <thedark> okay I use Kubuntu
[17:48] <gmathews> thedark: i think something is wrong with the audio
[17:48] <thedark> if Audacity doesn't work
[17:48] <thedark> what can I use to record from my soundcard?
[17:48] <gmathews> not sure thedark
[17:49]  * thedark jumps off a cliff
[17:49] <dstar_> Xsss4hell: Not exactly, because you can't set a resolution greater than the framebuffer. By default, it sets the framebuffer to the size of the largest monitor when it starts, so if the external monitor isn't attached, it gets set to 1440x900. Then when I attach the external monitor, I can't set it to a resolution greater than 1440x900.....
[17:49] <thedark> ahhh this and DVD problems are driving me crazy
[17:49] <thedark> and I can't find any podcasts in Korean
[17:49] <thedark> how the hell am I supposed to get Korean audio this way?
[17:49] <thedark> it is impossible
[17:49] <thedark> I am trying to learn Korean and Kubuntu is not helping
[17:49] <Xsss4hell> dstar_: I know, but the default config is should be ok enough for 2 monitors with ati 9.1
[17:50] <gmathews> lol thedark I know how you feel bud..
[17:50] <gmathews> ;/
[17:50] <Xsss4hell> but never try ati + jaunty
[17:50] <Xsss4hell> only ati + ubuntu<9
[17:52] <Xsss4hell> howto add bluetooth devices in kubuntu? somehow, there ain't a symbol in the tray
[17:53] <gmathews> Nothing works on KDE 4.1. Got a using the theme manager in KDE itself and guess what! It doesnt work properly.
[17:53]  * gmathews boots into Windows.
[17:53] <dstar_> Xsss4hell: I think we're talking about separate things... I'm talking about the X framebuffer size, which is a resolution. You'll see it if you run xrandr with no options: Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1440 x 900, maximum 1680 x 1680
[17:53] <Xsss4hell> gmathews: try kde4.2 its wow
[17:53] <gmathews> *Got an icon theme.
[17:54] <gmathews> Xsss4hell: will it affect my stuff?
[17:54] <Xsss4hell> usually no
[17:54] <dstar_> Xsss4hell: If I don't have my external monitor attached when I boot, the maximum will be the size of my built-in LCD, which is 1440x900
[17:54] <gmathews> Xsss4hell: how different is it to 4.1 anyway
[17:57] <giz> Xsss4hell:I use 4.1 and everything seems to have been working for a while now even audacity
[17:58] <Xsss4hell> giz gmathews http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.2/index.php
[17:59] <Xsss4hell> dstar_: what I meant was, that ther is a gui now from amd ati^
[17:59] <Xsss4hell> where  you can enable disable monitors etc.
[18:00] <dstar_> Xsss4hell: Right, but the X framebuffer can't be resized, so if it's initially set too small you have to restart X to change it.  If you're talking about the Control Center, it won't show resolutions above the framebuffer size.
[18:00] <thedark> okay the Out-soundard Bus means the sound that comes out of my speakers right?
[18:01] <thedark> soundcard
[18:01] <Xsss4hell> dstar_ yes indeed
[18:02] <Xsss4hell> do I have to install bluetooth myself before kde recognizes it?
[18:03] <Xsss4hell> kdebluetooth?
[18:03] <Bsims> Hey got a weird one... kde nightly neon isn't detecting all of my drives correctly
[18:03] <thedark> what does aRTs control do?
[18:03] <helpdesk> please anybody knows how i could use the GRUB ? asking me to point my default entry in menu.list to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.23.acme1. any idea ?
[18:04] <Xsss4hell> Bsims: I  think, you can file a bug, or report back to the developers, wich is a different channel
[18:04] <Bsims> Hrm kubuntu-devel?
[18:04] <dstar_> Xsss4hell: Do you know which of the various options for setting up a multiple monitors corresponds to 'BigDesktop'? I'm guessing AMD must have renamed that at some point.
[18:04] <Bsims> whats wierd is it works correctly in 3.5x
[18:04] <Xsss4hell> yep, but I  think kde's  bugtracking system is located at launchpad
[18:05] <Xsss4hell> dstar_: google ;) http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=redblog_entry&item=2550
[18:05] <thedark> If I want to record my soundcards output, what should I do in Kmix?
[18:08] <dstar_> Xsss4hell: Aha! Now why the hell didn't that show up when I was googling? Maybe I missed it because the date is so old....
[18:08] <Machtin> :f/wc
[18:08] <thedark> how about what sound is made out of, can anyone answer that one?
[18:09] <Bsims> thedark: try seeing if Krec can do it for you
[18:09] <Xsss4hell> dstar_: cuz I searched for "linux ati bigdesktop"
[18:09] <Xsss4hell> ..
[18:09] <thedark> that is what I am trying to figure out
[18:09] <theunixgeek> Ok, so from within 4.1, how do I upgrade to 4.2?
[18:09] <Xsss4hell> anyone good in algorithms here?
[18:09] <thedark> but nobody, not here or in google seems to know what to do
[18:09] <thedark> Krec is supposed to be easy to use
[18:10] <dstar_> Xsss4hell: aha... I think I was using ubuntu instead of linux.
[18:10] <thedark> I guess I am an imbecile
[18:10] <Xsss4hell> google is not a person :D haha
[18:10]  * thedark drags his knuckles across the floor toward his dank cave of tragedy and solitude
[18:10] <thedark> this is ridiculous
[18:11] <thedark> so nobody even knows what the aRts controller does?
[18:11] <thedark> is everyone here a newb like me?
[18:11] <Xsss4hell> thedark chill, there must be a solution, what you want to do is something very basic
[18:11] <thedark> that is what I am thinking
[18:11] <thedark> but I can't do it!
[18:12] <thedark> then again, when I first got Kubuntu, I couldn't even use headphones until the last update
[18:12] <thedark> so who knows how it is in Linux land
[18:12] <Xsss4hell> unsupported hardware .
[18:12] <thedark> but if sound is coming out of the speakers, how could it be that I can't record it?hmmm
[18:13] <thedark> good, I scared him off
[18:13] <giz> the dark:www.arts-project.org/doc/manual/index-3.html
[18:15] <thedark> I think I get the gist of it
[18:15] <thedark> not very user friendly language
[18:15] <thedark> but it doesn't help me
[18:15] <thedark> thanks though
[18:16] <thedark> does anyone know what this bus is?
[18:16] <thedark> for a recording problem
[18:16] <thedark> Krec IN needs to be set to the Bus that is Soundcard-Out RIGHT???!!!
[18:16] <thedark> that is how I have it set
[18:16] <thedark> for any recording problem
[18:16] <thedark> how would it be set
[18:16] <thedark> like that right?
[18:17] <thedark> who knows?
[18:18] <marius> servertokens webcouture.sytes.net
[18:31] <Guest5131> hi, I'm having trouble access windows shares from dolphin/konqueror. Can someone pastebin their working smb.conf for me to use please?
[18:33] <koperton> mmm
[18:33] <koperton> !samba
[18:34] <dstar> How do I take a screenshot in KDE?
[18:34] <reinhold> dstar: ksnapshot
[18:35] <dstar> reinhold: thanks
[18:35] <dstar> reinhold: does that have a shortcut key by default?
[18:37] <reinhold> dstar: It used to be tied to "PrtScrn" in kde3, but here it does not seem to work with kde 4.2 any more :(
[18:37] <dstar> ok
[18:37] <dstar> thanks
[18:39] <Bou> hello
[18:39] <Bou> how do you turn off the hibernation?
[18:39] <Bou> i mean to prevent the computer to ever get in hibernation
[18:40] <thedark> okay...
[18:40] <thedark> so listen...
[18:40] <thedark> please...
[18:40] <thedark> anyone...
[18:40] <thedark> Krec indicates a sound input when there is a system sound
[18:40] <thedark> like when a notification message comes up or something
[18:40] <thedark> but it is not detecting music I play with say, Kaffeine
[18:44] <Bsims> I am trying to install the experimental packages from the PPA and when I tried an apt-get install kde kde-core I got the following message  kde-core: Depends: kdebase-workspace (>= 4:4.1.1) but it is not going to be installed
[18:45] <Bsims> E: Broken packages
[19:07] <Bsims> I am trying to install kde4 on Intrepid and I can't get it to work... apt-get install -s kubuntu-kde4-desktop reports broken packages anyone got a clue?
[19:10] <BluesKaj> Bsims , follow this tutorial http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[19:11] <Bsims> BluesKaj: thats the problem I don't already have a kde4 install to do so
[19:13] <BluesKaj> Bsims , add this deb to your souces.list , then do a sudo apt get update , then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop . deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[19:13] <slow-motion> hi
[19:15] <Bsims> BluesKaj: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112530/
[19:16] <BluesKaj> Bsims , are you running gnome desktop then ?
[19:17] <Bsims> BluesKaj: kde 3.5 on intrepid and nightly neon
[19:18]  * Bsims is debating waiting for Jaunty and doing a fresh install
[19:19] <Casandir> Noob question about burning... when I burn my bootdisc, does it matter if I burn the unzipped folder, or should I just burn the files in the dir?
[19:19] <Bsims> Thanks for the help off to do some running
[19:19] <p_quarles> Casandir: neither
[19:21] <Casandir> How then, if neither?
[19:22] <p_quarles> Casandir: a boot disk image should be in an .iso compressed filesystem format -- that's what you burn to CD
[19:23] <BluesKaj> hi jhutchins ..ltns
[19:24] <Casandir> p_quarles: I had thought as much, but didn't locate an .iso in the isolinux dir, where I thought it might be...
[19:26] <p_quarles> Casandir: that's because whatever it is you have is not actually a bootable CD image; you need to start over from the beginning
[19:26] <Casandir> Right-o - thank you!  I assume I can find the downloadable .iso somewhere on kubuntu.org?
[19:27] <mirko_> sera
[19:27] <p_quarles> Casandir: http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu
[19:27] <Casandir> Rock - thank you (:
[19:27] <mirko_> italiani?
[19:28] <Casandir> hmm... this is what I downloaded originally
[19:28] <KomiaPoika> how do i turn off kde 4.2's auto screen saver and lock after 1 min??
[19:28] <Casandir> ...was already on that page
[19:29] <p_quarles> Casandir: just choose a location from the dropdown menu and press the "start download" button
[19:32] <Casandir> Aye - all set now. Thought it was a .zip by the desktop icon, the name was too long to see.  Thanks again!
[19:32] <Casandir> ./smackhead
[19:48] <manumar> hello
[19:48] <manumar> hi
[19:48] <manumar> everyone
[19:48] <manumar> :d
[19:48] <manumar> xD
[19:49] <manumar> I want to create a trackmania server so I see here the files that I need
[19:49] <manumar> http://www.gamershell.com/download_33952.shtml
[19:49] <manumar> well
[19:49] <manumar> I dont know how can I eject the server
[19:49] <manumar> because I cant see any.. .SH file
[19:54] <thedark> okay I can record from my headset in Audacity
[19:54] <thedark> but I still can't record from my sound card
[19:54] <thedark> can anyone offer any advice?
[19:54] <thedark> it doesn't give me an error
[19:54] <thedark> it just doesn't detect any sound
[19:54] <Bsims> Hrm I am running kde nightly neon and now I get the message that vlc can not run... due to Cannot mix incompatible Qt libraries
[19:55] <Bsims> Aborted
[19:55] <Bsims> The only conflict I can see is /maybe/ its seeing the amarok-nightly-qt but it shouldn't conflict
[19:56] <p_quarles> Bsims: it wouldn't conflict, as the amarok-nightly builds are specifically designed to use its own qt libs
[19:56] <djsiege> Hello all
[19:56] <djsiege> just a quick question
[19:56] <Bsims> p_quarles: I know but something is conflicting it
[19:57] <djsiege> is there a way to get the K Menu to open when I press the windows key?
[19:57] <p_quarles> Bsims: right, but the Ubuntu VLC package wouldn't even be *aware* of the Qt libs that amarok-nightly is using
[19:57] <Bsims> p_quarles: exactly thats what is so frustrating about it
[19:57] <p_quarles> djsiege: Win key alone? No. Win key in combination with another? Yes.
[19:58] <impy> this might seem like a daft question, but I'm trying to find something that will allow me to broadcast shoutcast mp3 to a friend's server, prefferably something GUI
[19:58] <p_quarles> Bsims: are you running KDE 4.2 from the Launchpad PPA?
[19:58] <djsiege> p_quarles: how would I go about setting that up?
[19:58] <Bsims> p_quarles: nightly neon from the neon PPA
[19:58] <djsiege> KDE 4.1 btw
[19:59] <p_quarles> djsiege: systemsettings --> global keyboard shortcuts
[19:59] <p_quarles> Bsims: so Neon for your entire KDE setup?
[19:59] <thedark> so nobody here can record their soundcards output in audacity?
[20:00] <thedark> I get no error, it just doesn't pick up any sound
[20:00] <thedark> a flat line
[20:00] <Bsims> p_quarles: correct
[20:00] <thedark> but it detects and record sound input to my logitech USB headset just fine
[20:00] <Bsims> p_quarles: Heh I also have 3.5 installed along side
[20:01] <Bsims> however Neon doesn't touch anything of the rest
[20:01] <p_quarles> Bsims: sorry, I thought you were talking about just Amarok; I don't know, really; that may conflict with VLC
[20:01] <thedark> ahhhhh someone must know
[20:01] <thedark> am I the first person this has happened to?
[20:02] <p_quarles> Bsims: you can probably compile VLC wiht static Qt libs if you're willing to spend some time on it
[20:02] <p_quarles> thedark: you asked; stop re-asking
[20:02] <Bsims> bah too much like work <g>
[20:03] <p_quarles> Bsims: let me install VLC real quick here and see if I get anything similar with the Launchpad PPA 4.2
[20:03]  * thedark sonic booms the chatroom
[20:03] <thedark> this is jacked up right here
[20:04] <claire> salut
[20:07] <p_quarles> Bsims: VLC works fine with the Qt libs from the Launchpad PPA
[20:07] <Bsims> p_quarles: Hrm not here... must be me... I do have 3.5 installed but it worked before
[20:08] <p_quarles> Bsims: you don't have what I'm talking about installed, though
[20:10] <djsiege> ok....  it's not working
[20:10] <flapane> hi
[20:10] <flapane> i have a problem with eth0 on (k) hardy i386, eth0 won't enable after a reboot  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057174
[20:10] <djsiege> i set the shortcut to meta+z, saved it, but it won't pop open the application launcher
[20:10] <flapane> t.i.a
[20:11] <kriox> hi ..
[20:11] <Bsims> p_quarles: hrm I may say hell with it and reinstall I got backups made just a pain in the arse reinstalling all the little packages you use
[20:11] <fung> hey guys I got an issue with my sound. worked for a while before, then used xp for a while. then i come back and its not working anymore. funny thing is, if i turn my speaker ALL the way up, I can barely hear sound out of my headphones. Also all my playback settings are turned all the way up.
[20:11] <Bsims> Might be easiest as lets face it ubuntu doesn't handle upgrades between versions nicely
[20:11] <kriox> something goes wrong with my pendrive on kubuntu 8.04
[20:12] <p_quarles> Bsims: what I'm saying is that instead of using the neon nightly builds for KDE 4.2, use the Launchpad PPA that provides a stable 4.2 build; those libs work with VLC
[20:12] <kriox> it work on windows on the same machine
[20:12]  * Bsims nods will do p_quarles 
[20:13] <fung> Any ideas about my sound issue? :/
[20:14] <ghostcube> fung, hmm sounds strange
[20:14] <kriox> fung: have you try to reeboot??
[20:14] <ghostcube> and you checked that all settings are normal in alsamixer too ?
[20:14] <djsiege> agggh! I can't get this thing to open with teh keyboard!
[20:15] <djsiege> the*
[20:15] <fung> when this happened initially, I went back to XP. now I have time to troubleshoot and its still not working
[20:15] <KDesk> hi
[20:15] <fung> and yeah all my playback options in alsamixer are maxed out
[20:16] <ghostcube> hmmm
[20:16] <KDesk> Where can I get the latest Koffice (the version 2) binaries for kubuntu?
[20:17] <ghostcube> fung, is this in all players like this not working ?
[20:18] <fung> yes, I was in firefox on youtube. also amarok playing music
[20:18] <ghostcube> is this kde 4.2 ? what soundkart are u running
[20:18] <ghostcube> card
[20:19] <fung> not kde 4.2 (although I'm updating it right now. hoping after reboot some other old package will get updated and sound starts working again)
[20:19] <fung> I'm have audigy 2
[20:22] <fsalvador> Hi
[20:24] <djsiege> are there any major improvements from KDE 4.1 to 4.2?
[20:24] <p_quarles> yes
[20:26] <fung> ghostcube: update finished. Going to reboot to see if sound still broken.
[20:29] <thedark> okay, how about this for an easy question
[20:29] <thedark> I changed my system language to Korean
[20:29] <thedark> now I am trying to switch it back
[20:29] <thedark> but still some apps are in Korean
[20:30] <thedark> yet I removed every language but US English and set it to the default language
[20:30] <thedark> and have logged out twice
[20:30] <p_quarles> thedark: sudo update-locale
[20:30] <Unksi> thedark: what is the output of locale?
[20:31] <thedark> nothing happens
[20:31] <thedark> yeah nothing happens
[20:31] <thedark> LANG=ko_KR.UTF-8
[20:31] <thedark> LANGUAGE=ko_KR:ko:en_GB:en
[20:32] <thedark> well that is the output for just "locale"
[20:32] <Unksi> ok
[20:32] <thedark> but nothing happens when I enter sudo update-locale
[20:32] <Unksi> thedark: try sudo update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE
[20:33] <fung> ghostcube: nope. still same :/
[20:33] <ghostcube> fung, hmm what soundcard is this
[20:33] <thedark> nothing happened
[20:34] <thedark> should I have seen something or do I need to logout?
[20:34] <Unksi> thedark: try logging out
[20:35] <kaddi> how can i zoom in and out in imagemagick
[20:35] <kaddi> i can only see about a tenth of my image :(
[20:35] <kaddi> (this is on kde4.2)
[20:36] <fung> ghostcube: audigy 2
[20:36] <thedark> didn't work
[20:36] <Unksi> ok, did the output of locale change?
[20:37] <thedark> yes
[20:37] <thedark> except for one line
[20:37] <thedark> LANGUAGE=ko_KR:ko:en_GB:en
[20:38] <Unksi> ok, try sudo update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF8
[20:38] <Unksi> sudo update-locale LANG=en_US.UTF-8 LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8
[20:39] <Unksi> typoed^
[20:39] <thedark> didn't change it
[20:39] <setuid_w00t> Is there a way to make kmail show the receiver instead of the sender in my Sent mail folder?
[20:39] <Unksi> hmm
[20:40] <moox> hi
[20:40] <thedark> :(
[20:40] <Unksi> what if you do export LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8 ?
[20:40] <Unksi> and then check locale
[20:41] <thedark> it changed it
[20:41] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: since kde 4.2 yes, i don't know about 4.1.3 though
[20:41] <Unksi> only temporarily
[20:41] <Unksi> hmm
[20:41] <thedark> !
[20:41] <moox> I have a little problem when upgrading from gnome (ubuntu 8.10) to kde 4.2
[20:41] <Unksi> whats the contents of /etc/default/locale ?
[20:41] <moox> some file in .kde/share/config are no writable
[20:42] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: Is that the version that you are running? (4.2)
[20:42] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: yes
[20:42] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: Can you tell me how to do it in that version and I will check if it's available in 4.1.3
[20:42] <BentFrank> My system is Kubuntu 8.10.  "ls -l foo" gives me "-rwxrwSrwx".  I do "chmod 0777 foo".  The perms don;t change.  What is that capital S in my perms and why doesnt 0777 clear it?
[20:43] <BentFrank> It's on a share mounted from a NAS if thamatters
[20:43] <ghostcube> fung, pci ?
[20:44] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: i dont think that its available. on the right of the search bar there are several buttons, one is called 'select view appearance'
[20:45] <fung> ghostcube, yes
[20:45] <Guest3563> I just updated kde 4.2 from ppa repository and desktop effects have stoped working
[20:46] <Guest3563> I have tested the glx and dri and everything works fine on games, etc...
[20:46] <thedark> so what can I do?
[20:46] <fung> anyway I asked someone in #alsa and just noticed alsa 1.0.19 came out. I'm using .17 right now so
[20:46] <thedark> this is the worst computing day ever :(
[20:46] <Guest3563> any ideas where I should start looking to solve this?
[20:47] <ghostcube> fung, the audigy2 should work fine
[20:47] <gekkoo> moox: you could do execute this cmd: find ~/.kde/share/config -exec chmod u+rw,g+rw,o+r '{}' \;
[20:47] <ghostcube> fung, what is set as primary sound output in systemsettings multimedia and then inside music ?
[20:47] <ghostcube> check that the alsa device is the first one
[20:48] <ghostcube> not pulseaudio
[20:48] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: The only button I see there is "Open Full Search"
[20:48] <Skrot-> Hi, I'm having some issues with (k)networkmanager in kubuntu 8.10. If I click a essid in knetworkmanager, nothing happens. Any ideas where to start debugging this?
[20:49] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: then it's not possible, i guess
[20:49] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: 4.2 will be in the 9.04 right?
[20:49] <fung> ghostcube, alsa? that's not even on the list for me.
[20:49] <Unksi> thedark: whats the contents of /etc/default/locale ?
[20:49] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: yea, i think so
[20:50] <fung> ghostcube, audigy is first on the list
[20:50] <ghostcube> fung can u post a screenshot of the audio sources to pastie.org
[20:50] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: I can wait I guess.  Thanks for the help
[20:50] <gekkoo> 4.2 is very stable and fast
[20:50] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: How did you install it?  From source?
[20:50] <thedark> okay sorry, didn't see that
[20:50] <ghostcube> nah picaste.de
[20:50] <Unksi> np
[20:50] <ghostcube> damn lol fung picpaste.de
[20:50] <fung> ghostcube, alright
[20:51] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: i used experimental (not official) repositories
[20:52] <fung> ghostcube, erm I'm can't read german
[20:52] <thedark> ....
[20:52] <thedark> 䅌䝎攽彮单售䙔㠭䰊乁啇䝁㵅湥啟⹓呕ⵆ
[20:52] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 :-)
[20:52] <Unksi> thats it?
[20:52] <thedark> it is a bunch of... Japanese characters
[20:52] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: So I'm guessing that 4.2 fixed more problems for you than it created?
[20:53] <ghostcube> fung, try the english flag in the right upper corner or .com
[20:53] <ghostcube> sorry
[20:53] <gekkoo> setuid_w00t: yes, definitely
[20:53] <ghostcube> :)
[20:53] <Unksi> thedark: ok, make it empty and put LANG=en_US.UTF-8 there
[20:53] <setuid_w00t> gekkoo: Thanks again.  I'll check out 4.2 later today/
[20:53] <Unksi> and try relogging
[20:55] <Guest3563> hmm
[20:55] <cptaj> hey guys, I installed kde on my vanilla ubuntu. Can you link me to that one tutorial on how to completely remove kde? >_>
[20:55] <fung> ghostcube, http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-Multimedia_-_System_Settings.png
[20:55] <Unksi> !gnomeonly
[20:55] <Unksi> !puregnome
[20:55] <thedark> it worked :D
[20:55] <thedark> finally, something goes right
[20:55] <Unksi> thedark: great :)
[20:56] <Guest3563> weird, I now have both my desktop and laptop computers with the latest ppa5 packages from kde 4.2 and bath have broken desktop effects
[20:57] <cptaj> thanks I'll give that a shot
[20:57] <Unksi> yw :)
[20:58] <ghostcube> fung, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=938521
[20:58] <ghostcube> have u checked this
[20:58] <cbwcjw> So if I want to remove all GNOME packages....
[20:58] <cbwcjw> !purekde
[20:58] <cbwcjw> ahha!
[20:59] <joshuajtl> will installing/using gtk apps in kde slow down general performance?
[20:59] <Guest3563> nope
[20:59] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: They run pretty fine.
[20:59] <Guest3563> is anyone here using kde 4.2?
[20:59]  * cbwcjw is
[21:00]  * gekkoo is
[21:00] <joshuajtl> I am
[21:00] <Guest3563> can you install the latest updates from repository
[21:00] <Guest3563> and tell me if desktop effects still works afterwards
[21:00] <cbwcjw> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[21:00] <joshuajtl> yes they do
[21:00] <gekkoo> yep
[21:01] <joshuajtl> anyone know how to turn off grouping in the panel?
[21:01] <Guest3563> damnit, both my computers have the same problem
[21:01] <gekkoo> joshuajtl: righ-click task manager settings :)
[21:01] <Guest3563> is there any reason why 3d games, etc... work fine but kde 4.2 desktop effects don't?
[21:01] <fung> ghostcube, I'm not sure what that command is supposed to do.. looks just like as if I ran 'alsamixer' in the terminal. I checked again though and everything is turned up
[21:01] <joshuajtl> oh yeah didnt see it i guess thanks gekko
[21:02] <joshuajtl> ok I updated to 4.2 now i don't have any (except default) plasma themes... but searching for plasma in adept got me nothing
[21:03] <cbwcjw> "Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids." -> From the Kubuntu site
[21:03] <fung> joshuajtl, you can alsa disable grouping manually for each group by middle mouse clicking. nifty little funtion
[21:03] <joshuajtl> yeah i read that, it doesnt say no plasma packages are compatible just that old ones arent
[21:03] <joshuajtl> hmm that is neat fung thx
[21:04] <joshuajtl> i have never liked adept, does anyone use anything else other than command line?
[21:04] <gekkoo> aptitude :)
[21:04] <joshuajtl> ... command line
[21:05] <fung> ghostcube, Hey I think I found the culprit
[21:06] <fung> ghostcube, almost blew out my eardrums too. I was randomly muting different things and by muting Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack, sound came back
[21:06] <joshuajtl> plus I tried kde 4.2 with suse live cd and it had other plasma themes...
[21:06] <joshuajtl> not just default
[21:06] <gekkoo> well, isnt there something called kpackage? never tried it though
[21:06] <cptaj> !puregnome
[21:06] <ghostcube> fung, cool
[21:06] <gekkoo> joshuajtl: you can download new themes easily
[21:07] <joshuajtl> oh yeah forgot about that gekko, thanks...
[21:07] <joshuajtl> I just came back to kubuntu been away for a bit trying out windows 7
[21:07] <fung> ghostcube, thx for your help!
[21:07] <gekkoo> it's really well integrated
[21:07] <ghostcube> np man
[21:07] <joshuajtl> what is well integrated
[21:08] <gekkoo> the theme downloading thingy :)
[21:08] <joshuajtl> oh yeah it is
[21:11] <joshuajtl> anyone else dislike the new 4.2 panel theme? (just saying)
[21:11] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: I actually like it a LOT more
[21:12] <joshuajtl> wow odd... i guess you just cant dispute taste
[21:13] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: I disliked 4.1's actually :P Taste is everything
[21:14] <joshuajtl> i'm installing all the new themes :)
[21:16] <joshuajtl> i'm going to install Sugar gui from OLPC
[21:17] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: hahahah!
[21:17] <|gunni|> I miss my movie thumbnails in kde 4 (kubuntu intrepid, kde 4.2) Is there a known way to get them back?
[21:17] <joshuajtl> cbwcjw: seroiusly, it's an interesting idea
[21:18] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: Yea, its just OLPC is losing money reallly fast, but that is pretty cool
[21:18] <joshuajtl> are they that's too bad
[21:20] <elione> hola necesito ayuda con el apagado de mi pc tengo instalado KDE 4.2 en Ubuntu 8.10 en un asus eee pc,por favor abridme un privado,muchas gracias de antemano
[21:21] <ghostcube> !es | elione
[21:33] <carpii_> im using kmail with several 'identities'. One identity fails to send mail with the error 'Unknown Transport Protocol'. The other identity works fine. Has anyone had this, its driving me crazy since theyre both gmail accounts with similar settings?
[21:35] <elione> #ubuntu-es
[21:35] <moshu> Hei hei :)
[21:35] <moshu> Waddup ppl? :D
[21:36] <moshu> Damn, I can`t get any sound from the PC, someone has any idea?
[21:36] <moshu> it`s Ubuntu with KD
[21:36] <moshu> E
[21:46] <Doates> How do I download wine when using kubuntu?
[21:52] <faydriss> apt-get wine
[21:52] <BentFrank> My system is Kubuntu 8.10.  foo is a file on a NAS mounted via samba.  "ls -l foo" gives me "-rwxrwSrwx".  I do "chmod 0777 foo".  The perms don't change.  What is that capital S in my perms and why doesnt 0777 clear it?
[21:52] <faydriss> too many numbers?
[21:52] <faydriss> why 0777 and not 777?
[21:52] <maco> faydriss: 0 means "no sticky bit"
[21:53] <faydriss> k
[21:53] <BentFrank> the 0 place can be 2 for setgid and 4 for setuid
[21:53] <BentFrank> i think 1 means sticky
[21:53] <maco> BentFrank: thanks. couldnt remember the other options
[21:54] <BentFrank> stat foo gives: 2767/-rwxrwSrwx
[21:56] <moshu> Someone please help me? :)
[21:56] <moshu> I can`t hear any sound :|
[21:57] <moshu> From the PC of course :)
[21:57] <ghostcube> moshu, what card is this ?
[21:58] <moshu> Hm... dunno
[21:58] <moshu> 1 sec :)
[21:58] <moshu> It`s integrate
[21:58] <moshu> d I believe
[21:59] <ghostcube> lspci
[21:59] <ghostcube> is there any sound card mentioned
[22:00] <Doates> can someone help me install wine
[22:00] <moshu> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[22:00] <gekkoo> BentFrank: does chmod g-s clears that bit?
[22:00] <moshu> app-get wine
[22:00] <moshu> apt-get
[22:00] <moshu> :)
[22:00] <Doates> where do i put that?
[22:00] <moshu> in the konsole?
[22:01] <Doates> okay thankyou im dumb
[22:01] <ghostcube> moshu, i have an intel audio too have u checked that all outputs are on inside kmix or alsamixer
[22:02] <rwreed> upgrading to 8.10 from 8.4 on reboot got warning during build of driver modules kernel version in version.h does not match currently running kernel thing seems hung. what should I do
[22:02] <moshu> Doates: sudo apt-get install wine
[22:02] <moshu> ghostcube: it`s my first time using linux...
[22:02] <moshu> I try it on a virtual machines, back on vista
[22:03] <ghostcube> moshu, hmm ok then check inside kmix if all channels are on and not muted
[22:03] <moshu> So, I am not so good with it...
[22:03] <moshu> How can I do that?
[22:03] <ghostcube> in the taskbar there is an sound icon
[22:03] <ghostcube> this is kmix normally
[22:03] <Doates> E: Type 'apt-get-wineapt-get-wineapt-get-wine' is not known on line 55 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:03] <Doates> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[22:03] <moshu> A, that looks ok man
[22:03] <moshu> nothing is muted
[22:03] <moshu> All is 50% oon volume
[22:04] <ghostcube> Doates, sudo apt-get install wine     not more
[22:04] <moshu> Yes, indeed
[22:04] <moshu> I told him so upper :>
[22:04] <ghostcube> moshu, check kmenu >< systemsettings >> sound or on 4.2 multimedia check that the intel device is the first used one
[22:04] <moshu> I had some driver, is called hda intel
[22:05] <Doates> thats what i typed
[22:05] <moshu> 1 sec
[22:05] <ghostcube> Doates, pls post youre sources.list
[22:05] <ghostcube> to pastie.org
[22:06] <raphael> bonjour
[22:07] <moshu> Bonjour raphael
[22:08] <Doates> adept installer isnt opening now
[22:08] <moshu> ghostcube: I can`t reach any sound thing on settings or sistem :\
[22:08] <raphael> je suis entrain de tester cette version d'os
[22:08] <moshu> O, ca va raphael :)
[22:09] <moshu> Moi aussi :)
[22:09] <raphael> bé je sais pas trop si j'men sort avec kubuntu
[22:09] <ghostcube> moshu, maybe the virtual device isnt working correct
[22:09] <ghostcube> moshu, try a lice dvd or cd
[22:09] <ghostcube> live
[22:09] <moshu> I wonder if is there ant command or something
[22:09] <moshu> For drivers or... ?
[22:09] <moshu> lice ?
[22:09] <moshu> a
[22:09] <ghostcube> moshu, nah for testing the system live cd of 8.10
[22:10] <moshu> With live it works :)
[22:10] <Doates> im going to restart and see what that does for me
[22:10] <moshu> I have it on a virtual hdd
[22:10] <ghostcube> then it is an vm problem
[22:10] <moshu> And it was working :|
[22:10] <moshu> But now doesn`t :|
[22:10] <ghostcube> hmm when did it stop
[22:10] <raphael> je voulais mettre hardy heron mais ya rien d autre qui s install a part kubuntu
[22:10] <ghostcube> !fr | rajdhani
[22:10] <moshu> Maybe because now I got it on 64x ?
[22:10] <ghostcube> damn
[22:10] <ghostcube> raphael, was for you
[22:11] <ghostcube> moshu, hmm nah shouldnt matter
[22:11] <raphael> oups i made a mystake so no?
[22:11] <ghostcube> eh  nah :D
[22:11] <ghostcube> !fr | raphael
[22:11] <ghostcube> ;)
[22:12] <raphael> i think i speak english now
[22:12] <moshu> How  can I install audio drivers? :)
[22:12] <moshu> Oh, now you know english :)
[22:12] <moshu> Now it`s fully installed ghostcube
[22:12] <moshu> :)
[22:12] <moshu> The Ubuntu
[22:13] <moshu> I don`t have any sound, and I can`t install falsh player
[22:13] <moshu> Anything else works just fine
[22:13] <raphael> so, i don't know how to use it, how can i do for join the french channel?
[22:14] <moshu> Try: /join #ubuntu-fr
[22:14] <moshu> :)
[22:15] <raphael> join #ubuntu-fr
[22:15] <ghostcube> with /
[22:15] <raphael> ah
[22:15] <raphael> ok
[22:15] <ghostcube> moshu, n oidea what is causing this
[22:15] <moshu> Oh... :(
[22:15] <ghostcube> normally it should work for intel hda
[22:15] <moshu> I`ll look around, maybe I`ll catch it :)
[22:16] <raphael> thank you
[22:16] <moshu> Aha...
[22:16] <moshu> Avp raphael :)
[22:16] <failers> any one know why in kde 4.2 i get error when trying to activate desktop effects?
[22:16] <moshu> Maybe it`s from video card
[22:16] <moshu> Isnt` recognized or something :|
[22:16] <failers> failed to activate desktop effects using the given configureatuib iotuibs
[22:17] <failers> ops
[22:17] <failers> typo there haha
[22:17] <ActionParsnip1> hey guys
[22:17] <failers> moshu: why doesnt it recognize it :/ ?
[22:17] <failers> its nvida
[22:18] <failers> should be compatible ? :|
[22:18] <ActionParsnip1> is there a package i need to install to get tab completion for coomands like apt-get, i can't tab complete 'install' or 'dist-upgrad' can anyone please advise
[22:19] <moshu> I`ve have that problem to
[22:19] <moshu> On a nvidia
[22:19] <failers> :o
[22:19] <moshu> You are running on a virtual machine?
[22:19] <failers> nah
[22:19] <moshu> Hm..
[22:20] <moshu> Try click again that performance thing
[22:20] <moshu> And if it`s not working
[22:20] <failers> performance thing?
[22:20] <moshu> Go on NVidia website and get the latest drivers
[22:20] <moshu> Desktop. ...
[22:21] <ActionParsnip1> also if i have a program running, and i connect via ssh with x forwarding, is there a way to capture the running program to the remote system without having to kill / rerun the program??
[22:21] <failers> moshu: what do you mean with performance thing :S ?
[22:22] <moshu> Where you get that error
[22:22] <moshu> :)
[22:22] <failers> well i got newest driver so it aint that atleast
[22:22] <failers> 180.27
[22:22] <maurizio_> ciao
[22:23] <moshu> Ciao maurizio_
[22:23] <moshu> cmme va? :)
[22:23] <moshu> Hm... dunno failers
[22:23] <moshu> :|
[22:24] <failers> :/
[22:24] <failers> its so lame
[22:24] <moshu> Yes :)
[22:25] <failers> compiz doesnt work since it need some libs that are uninstalled when you install 4.2 and desktop effects isnt working
[22:25] <failers> so here we go all my eyecandy is gone :D
[22:25] <moshu> :|
[22:25] <moshu> It got a problem myself, with audio :D
[22:25] <ActionParsnip1> compiz is worthless anyroad
[22:26] <failers> ActionParsnip1: nah i find the cube nice :)
[22:26] <failers> moshu: what kind of problem?
[22:26] <moshu> I can`t hear any sound :|
[22:26] <moshu> I got ony mp3`s
[22:26] <moshu> I installed a mp3 package for Amarok
[22:27] <moshu> And now Amarok it`s working, but I can`t hear anything :|
[22:28] <failers> :|
[22:29] <moshu> :|
[22:29] <moshu> Brb, I`ll try some stuff
[22:30] <moshu> Anyway, fck Bill Gates :)
[22:30] <Zorix> i want linux bluray video support :/
[22:32] <ActionParsnip1> moshu: windows has its place otherwise it would never get used
[22:33] <moshu> Yes, indeed :)
[22:33] <ActionParsnip1> moshu: so its a moot statement
[22:33] <ActionParsnip1> ;)
[22:33] <moshu> Ok, I understand now!
[22:33] <moshu> :))
[22:34] <KDesk> in kate is it possible to configure it so that when it opens, the left menu/bar doesn't open by defualt?
[22:36] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: that bit is the documents button on the far left
[22:37] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: yes, that sidebar
[22:37] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: I don't like it to be open every time I open Kate
[22:37] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: thats all i got
[22:39] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: When you open Kate, that sidebar isn't open? I can see all the different documents I have open with kate, but I dont like that
[22:40] <joshuajtl> hey folks, oxygen in firefox is still broken, anyone use something else?
[22:40] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: yeah i have it open too
[22:41] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: if you click the left button twice, it goes
[22:42] <joshuajtl> anyone?
[22:42] <harun> yokmu bizim dilden konusan
[22:42] <KDesk> ActionParsnip1: If I click once it goes, but The next time I open kate, it will come again.
[22:43] <KDesk> joshuajtl: What do you mean, the icon theme? I use one from addons.firefox.com
[22:43] <joshuajtl> kdesk no regular kde4 oxygen theme makes tabs in firefox look bad
[22:43] <ActionParsnip1> KDesk: theres no man kate either
[22:43] <ActionParsnip1> joshuajtl: install a firefox theme, it'lll override the kde one
[22:44] <joshuajtl> yeah i guess, wanted to keep oxygen
[22:44] <KDesk> joshuajtl: I have an oxygen theme that looks just like oxygen for firefox
[22:45] <KDesk> joshuajtl: ah, no, it is not a theme, it is only icons, the theme I use is onle called Qtcurve for all GTK apps
[22:46] <KDesk> the package is: gtk2-engines-qtcurve
[22:47] <joshuajtl> thx think i'll just change the firefox theme
[22:48] <joshuajtl> http://ramonantonio.net/kde-firefox/ works nicely
[22:49] <joshuajtl> hrmm I got pretty used to windows 7... (left kubuntu to try it out) may go back
[22:50] <Mallulink> Online malayalam movies at http://www.mallulink.com/movies.html
[22:50] <Zorix> i cant believe people still use windows after getting abused by ms
[22:50] <joshuajtl> i never got abused by ms...
[22:51] <joshuajtl> windows 7 is really nice... fast unbuggy
[22:57] <Fieldy> !vmware-player
[22:57] <Fieldy> !vmware
[22:59] <KDesk> the main problem of windows is that is is close sources and propietary, so in general it is tecnicaly inferior and vulnerable, you don't know what you have in you hd, only ms.
[23:00] <joshuajtl> i recommend that everyone try out the free windows 7 beta
[23:01] <tom__> moshu: i got it working now
[23:01] <joshuajtl> honestly so far my experience coming back to kubuntu from windows 7 is that windows 7 felt more solid
[23:02] <moshu> What tom__?
[23:02] <moshu> :)
[23:02] <moshu> Nvidia?
[23:02] <tom__> desktop effects
[23:02] <moshu> aha..
[23:02] <dewman> The great argument of windows and linux.
[23:02] <dewman> hehehe
[23:02] <MoshutZu> Nice then :)
[23:03] <tom__> MoshutZu: test do "glxinfo | grep render"
[23:03] <tom__> for me it says direct rendering no
[23:03] <joshuajtl> dewman: just saying... cuz i just gave 7 a shot...
[23:03] <MoshutZu> Aha..
[23:03] <failers> or said
[23:04] <KDesk> I would not try windows any more because it doesn't respect the standarts, it is as usual a propietary pice of software that you can not trust, any linux/bsd window manager or Desktop envirnoment can be custumized much more, it is more segure and open!
[23:04] <failers> so then i just reinstall xserver nv driver and removed /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so and then just reinstalled nvidia driver
[23:04] <failers> and tada it worked
[23:04] <dewman> Yep...Needing to register so I can download there software is pretty silly.
[23:05] <joshuajtl> battery consumption using windows 7 on my dell 1525 was ridiculously short... so i'm trying kubuntu (as ubuntu came preinstalled on this machine) to test battery consumption...
[23:05] <dewman> but to each there own.
[23:05] <joshuajtl> KDesk: as you wish... wouldn't hurt to try a free beta though... put your money where your mouth is...
[23:06] <dewman> more like put your money into microsoft.... no thanks
[23:06] <astromme> joshuajtl: It's not really free. It's giving your information to microsoft. And it's definitely not free in terms of libre
[23:06] <astromme> and it definitely won't be free come release
[23:06] <joshuajtl> of course it won't ... you can fudge the info if it's that vital to you
[23:06] <joshuajtl> it's not like your giving away your ssn
[23:07] <dewman> the only thing that microsoft gives away is exploits. hehe
[23:07] <joshuajtl> it's funny that everyone who is talking badly about windows 7 here have never tried it...
[23:08] <dewman> how can you make that quick assumption?
[23:08] <dewman> you know that for a fact? Sheesh...
[23:08] <joshuajtl> have you?
[23:08] <KDesk> joshuajtl: don't take it personal, but I hate windows so much that I will never try it again, I have used many years windows, (without paying for it) so the money is not a problem hehe, If you want a program it is malware or shareware or freeware, or malware or virus, it take to much time. GNU/Linux has much more future, and now many more companies are using Linux inside, and in there products, like many mother boards, intel with moblin.
[23:08] <astromme> joshuajtl: yes in fact I have
[23:09] <astromme> joshuajtl: And I decided that my solution for software was superior, based on functuality and flexability, not to mention the cost
[23:09] <MoshutZu> Keep it coming KDesk :)
[23:09] <astromme> but to each his own
[23:09] <dstar> Anyone know if there's a good IRC channel to ask for help on traffic shaping stuff?
[23:09] <joshuajtl> see the intersting thing about windows 7 is that it's basically ms's last chance to get it right before linux takes over a large hunk of their customer base... thats why it's very intersting to try windows 7...
[23:10] <astromme> eh, you could have said that about win98, win2k, winxp, or even windows vista
[23:10] <joshuajtl> astromme windows 7 is a huge leap from all of those
[23:10] <Guest65444> mac is also taking a large hunk
[23:10] <joshuajtl> in every way
[23:10] <cbwcjw> astromme: I beleive thta windows 7 will be just as popular and that the userbases will even out eventually.
[23:10] <astromme> joshuajtl: I've tried it. It's not a huge leap from vista. (Vista isn't so bad itself). It is however not what fits me.
[23:11] <Guest65444> vista is "so bad"
[23:11] <Guest65444> c'mon memory management sucks
[23:11] <astromme> Again, to each their own. In my experience it wasn't bad.
[23:11] <joshuajtl> astromme as far as UI, and usability and performance it is a very huge leap... and I agree that vista is horrible
[23:11] <astromme> joshuajtl: Honestly the UI is quite similar. It changed a few important things here and there, but the interface is largely the same.
[23:11] <cbwcjw> !offtopic
[23:11] <joshuajtl> i agree every os has a place... i'm not arguing that windows 7 is better than any other os... i personally think all os's suck
[23:12] <astromme> Just like the interface in 10.0, 10.1, 10.2, etc... of mac os x has been similar
[23:12] <astromme> or GNOME has been similar (in 2.x) or KDE has been similar (in either 3.x or in 4.x)
[23:12] <KDesk> it is not windows 7 it is WINDOWS, that is the problem, there are so many resons to not use it, segurity, stability, performance. Many goverments don't use windows because of security. In the top500 fastest computer ~80% use Linux. Also like astromme said, GNU/Linux is free as libre. That is the most important, not because of money, because of segurity and to be able to choose.
[23:12] <astromme> but anyways, it's time for other work.
[23:12] <cbwcjw> !offtopic
[23:13] <Guest65444> but gnome or kde are far more customizable than any propietary OS GUI
[23:13] <dewman> yes.... lets talk about making ati drivers work.
[23:13] <astromme> KDesk: You're preaching to the wrong choir. I've been using linux since '01 and exclusively since '04....
[23:13] <dewman> =)
[23:13] <cbwcjw> !ati
[23:13] <joshuajtl> KDesk: actually you can compare performance of ubuntu with windows 7 and they are basically equal
[23:13] <astromme> KDesk: Whoops, didn't read your whole comment.
[23:13] <joshuajtl> and security is really quite good
[23:14] <astromme> anyways, /out
[23:14] <joshuajtl> even IE 8 is nice now... and basically as secure as firefox... times are changing man...
[23:14] <binarymutt> Hehe.
[23:15] <KDesk> Nobody can know if the segurity is good or not, if the source is close....
[23:15] <Guest65444> I'm a web developer, i hate IE
[23:15] <cbwcjw> joshuajtl: And google released a webkit browser. Stuff changes, but this is still offtopic.
[23:15] <joshuajtl> dude its spelt security... get it right once :)
[23:15] <cbwcjw> !offtopic
[23:15] <joshuajtl> alright fine dude I'll shut up
[23:16] <cbwcjw> joshaujtl: Thanks. It started to flame up./
[23:16] <joshuajtl> yeah you're right... sorry didn't mean to do that... just wanted to have a conversation about it
[23:17] <KDesk> Every one shoudl read "The Right to Read" It is an essay about more or less free software and propietary and what could happend if no free software would exist, it is writen by Richard Stallman. http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/right-to-read.html
[23:18] <joshuajtl> KDesk: reading now...
[23:18] <joshuajtl> thx
[23:18] <dstar> Anyone know if there's a good IRC channel to ask for help on traffic shaping stuff?
[23:19] <joshuajtl> what kde 4.2 themes are you folk using?
[23:20] <KDesk> joshuajtl: oxygen in KDE 4.2, in 4.1 was not so nice with oxygen.
[23:21] <joshuajtl> oh sorry meant what kde 4.2 PLASMA theme are you all using?
[23:21] <KDesk> With that theme, kde-firefox or similar I had problems in Firefox with the bookmarks. GTK apps are a problem jeje.
[23:22] <joshuajtl> KDesk: what plasma theme are you using?
[23:23] <KDesk> joshuajtl: in plasma, also oxygen, but Elegance, and Galssifild and Slim Glow are good.
[23:23] <joshuajtl> yeah just curious
[23:24] <joshuajtl> you like the new 4.2 oxygen panel look?
[23:25] <KDesk> joshuajtl: Yes, I like the blue arround the tasks in the bar :)
[23:25] <joshuajtl> i guess i'm the only one who doesnt...
[23:25] <KDesk> And Slim Glow has more transparent area. Also with composition are the themes better, because of the transparency
[23:26] <morpheusXNL> goodevening
[23:26] <KDesk> joshuajtl: Ah, hehe, for luck kde-look.org exists.
[23:27] <morpheusXNL> could someone help me out with a simple question?
[23:28] <joshuajtl> morpheusXNL: never ask to ask... just ask
[23:28] <morpheusXNL> i just installed kubuntu yesterday, but unlike previous distributions i am unable to create desktop shortcuts
[23:28] <failers> how do i change color on my panel ? in kde 4.2
[23:28] <failers> its blue and i dont want it that color
[23:28] <joshuajtl> failers: right click desktop go to appearance settings... change plasma theme
[23:29] <failers> only got one there :o
[23:30] <failers> ah
[23:30] <failers> joshuajtl: thx found now
[23:30] <failers> god i like kubuntu :D
[23:30] <failers> a bit hazzle to get working but when it is running
[23:30] <failers> phew
[23:31] <morpheusXNL> what does the plasma actualy do
[23:31] <joshuajtl> plasma is the new desktop system or something  i forget
[23:32] <joshuajtl> aoe 3 rocks
[23:33] <morpheusXNL> so does anyone know how i make a custom desktop shortcut in this new kde
[23:33] <joshuajtl> i dont, have you googled?
[23:34] <morpheusXNL> yeah but can seem to find something
[23:36] <leandro> Hi. How can I configure my network on kde4 system wide?
[23:36] <Blues-Man> hi all
[23:36] <Blues-Man> guys i ve upgraded from interpid to jaunty and I have KDE 4.2 but I can't see many plasmoid
[23:36] <Blues-Man>  I got an error about component missing
[23:37] <leandro> I want to change to static ip, but there is no graphic ui on kde 4 to do taht. N etwork manager seens to do the job just per user
[23:37] <joshuajtl> you're supposed to uninstall plasmoids before updating to 4.2
[23:38] <leandro> and /etc/network/interfaces don't have any configo for eth0. Just for lo
[23:40] <Blues-Man> joshuajtl, i can't run the one with picture slideshow
[23:40] <Blues-Man> It tells me about frame component missing
[23:40] <Blues-Man> what's wrong?=
[23:40] <Blues-Man> and either the calculator one
[23:42] <zeus> hi all
[23:46] <rwreed> hi all. Upgradeing from 8.04 to 8.10 now get a kernel version mismatch error. If I boot previous kernel it boots to kde 4. Any ideas?
[23:52] <asobi> amarok is not ejecting ipod correctly. what's that mount file again?
[23:58] <failers> anyone know how to fix this "in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE libraries installed. This will fail." i get it on any kind of kde app im compiling
[23:59] <failers> and i got kdelibs6-dev
[23:59] <failers> so it aint those i think :|