[00:17] why is no 2.6.29-rc3 in jaunty? [00:33] testing is probably underway [00:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/303068 - could someone running Jaunty test this for me? [00:50] Launchpad bug 303068 in network-manager "Static IP ethernet network setting is lost after reboot" [Undecided,Confirmed] [00:50] I'd appreciate it [00:51] last comment suggested this annoying behaviour has been fixed in NM that Jaunty is using [00:55] why nvidia driver is 180.22 instead of 180.27? [00:55] ok i had to reboot and tried pulseaudio -k ; start-pulseaudio-x11 again..sound is gone, what should i do? [00:56] miik: bug 322416 [00:56] Launchpad bug 322416 in nvidia-graphics-drivers-180 "update request: nVidia ver 180.27, pre-release" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322416 [00:56] thanks' [00:56] i use sound for audio recording playback of voice recognition [00:57] miik: Perhaps because 180.22 is a release but 180.27 is only a beta? [00:57] any chance you have fix, i have to use jaunty other laptop processing.. [00:58] oh [00:58] didnt nkow [00:59] cool, i have openofficeorg 3.0!!!!! [00:59] great... [00:59] can i have some assistance for audio? [00:59] i have to process 14hrs of audio [01:00] will i get firefox 3.1 too? [01:00] my audio didnt work in jaunty, then i did killall pulseaudion, then it works always now, even when i reboot [01:01] shuttleworth is talking about windows 7 and jaunty..yet my sound dont even work..ive tried pulseaudio -k ; start-pulseaudio-x11 [01:02] well jaunty is alpha [01:02] not even beta yet [01:02] i wish i could help and code [01:02] me too, but im too dumb [01:02] im just audio for ASIO over here [01:03] have to get through 14hrs of tape [01:03] i mostly use ubuntu for porno and play MMORPG where i waste 20 hours a day killing monsters and getting levels [01:03] try 8.10 intrepid ibex instead [01:04] milk: yes i know im already using intrepid with 38+ hours of processing.. [01:04] other laptop [01:04] oh [01:04] hehe the 38hrs was escalated to me! [01:05] this is my test machine [01:05] lol [01:05] winxp then [01:06] milk [01:06] ? [01:07] yeah, maybe [01:07] if you cant use intrepid [01:07] then use whatever you can do Get The Work Done [01:07] but dont forget to check back jaunty in april ;) [01:08] milk: mate our team only use ubuntu...if thats a plug..then use it lol [01:08] ;-) [01:09] well, then intrepid ibex [01:09] then use intrepid* [01:09] unless you can somehow get jaunty to work [01:09] but jaunty is not for production use [01:10] well alpha 2 had a bug in ssh tunneling that we were making use of.. [01:11] most of the team still using A2 for that purpose [01:11] oh [01:25] im poundering about stealing my sisters lipgloss [02:28] has anyone else noticed a bizarre font kerning problem in firefox? [02:39] actually, its not just firefox [02:55] I'm bored, think of upgrading my intrepid to jaunty. Any glaring stability issues I should be aware of? [02:58] ripps: heh, probably the most glaring is that it hasn't hit feature freeze yet (i think). [02:58] !schedule [02:58] A schedule of Jaunty Jackelope (9.04) release milestones can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule [03:00] how's the the xorg ati driver working in xorg-1.6 === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [03:06] Since Jaunty is using 2.6.28, it doesn't have KMS yet, does it. [03:11] Has sound broken for others recently? [03:12] Hew, yes, on a pulseaudio race on starting X [03:13] hggdh: Do you know the bug #? [03:13] yes, I subscribed to it. Just a sec [03:14] Hew, bug 322374 [03:15] Launchpad bug 322374 in pulseaudio "[jaunty regression] Pulse Audio finds no card for output" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/322374 [03:15] hggdh: Thanks :-) [03:18] nice, sound is (temporarily) working again [03:25] Hew -- about tor [03:28] hggdh: What about it? [03:30] bug 3039449 [03:30] Error: Launchpad bug 3039449 could not be found [03:30] dammit [03:30] bug 303949 [03:30] Launchpad bug 303949 in tor "tor 0.2.0.32-1 Depends: glibc-private but it is not installable" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/303949 [03:30] Hew, all we need is a change on dh_shlibdeps [03:31] (and, probably, to open a bug on Debian for that) [03:32] Why is Tor using a private glibc API? Isn't _that_ the bug? [03:33] IANAP, but I just found it strange that Debian doesn't have the problem, and Ubuntu does. [03:33] hggdh: I'm not sure whether that should go upstream or not. [03:34] it may have something to with the glibc we deliver [03:34] hi [03:34] I doubt that patch should go in at all. It covers up a symptom of the problem, it doesn't fix the problem itself. [03:34] is there a ppa repo with glut 1.5.1? [03:34] andersk, not necessarily. I do not like it either, but this is not the first case [03:34] and glew [03:34] with opengl 3.0 support [03:35] andersk, it does cover the issue, but makes the package available right now [03:38] which nvidia driver is currently in jaunty? [03:38] !info nvidia-glx-180 [03:38] nvidia-glx-180 (source: nvidia-graphics-drivers-180): NVIDIA binary Xorg driver. In component restricted, is optional. Version 180.22-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 8593 kB, installed size 25488 kB [03:39] hew, andersk Debian is still shipping glibc2.7 on stable. Only experimental has glibc2.9. This (IIRC) only came to be an issue from glib2.8 onwards [03:39] lubosz: nvidia is broken with the latest xserver though [03:39] nice, jaunty has gl 3 [03:39] also glut an glew? [03:39] !info glut [03:39] Package glut does not exist in jaunty [03:40] !info glutg3 [03:40] glutg3 (source: glut): the OpenGL Utility Toolkit. In component universe, is optional. Version 3.7-25 (jaunty), package size 21 kB, installed size 52 kB [03:40] !info libglew-dev [03:40] Package libglew-dev does not exist in jaunty [03:41] !info libglew1.5 [03:41] sorry for spamming the bot [03:41] libglew1.5 (source: glew): The OpenGL Extension Wrangler - runtime environment. In component main, is optional. Version 1.5.0dfsg1-3ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 77 kB, installed size 276 kB [03:41] bad [03:41] lubosz, use http://packages.ubuntu.com/ [03:41] the driver is opengl 3.0, but the libs dont [03:41] plx get the opengl 3.0 support libs in jaunty [03:42] they where released in november [03:43] the changes from opengl 2.1 => 3.0 where not too big but GLSL 1.2 => 1.3 where significant [03:43] lubosz: Please file a bug about it [03:43] in which category? [03:44] i do have a launchpad account [03:45] it just requires glew 1.5.1 and glut 3.7 [03:45] lubosz: an upgrade request for glut should be filed under glut [03:45] k i do that thx [03:46] i need to start coding opengl 3 :D [03:47] is there any way to install jaunty on a ext3 usb pen drive? [03:49] unetbootin and usb-creator seem only to support fat volumes [03:49] and create installers [03:50] lubosz: Surely usb-creator uses ext3? [03:53] lubosz: maybe try this? http://rudd-o.com/new-projects/portablelinux I havent tried it myself... [03:55] Hew: i would like ext3 support. i notices usb-creator only creates fat installers [03:55] danbhfive: thx, i give it a try [03:57] do the ppa repos sometimes have newer versions than +1 universe repos? [03:58] there should be an automated system to manage these [03:59] Anyone can make a PPA and put in whetever packages they want. So, yes, sometimes they have newer versions. [05:55] I just installed 9.04a3 and now unable to use audio at all [05:55] anybody got any solutions? [05:55] update and upgrade first [05:55] reboot and retry sound [05:56] I upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04a3, it is up to date and the system has already been restarted [05:56] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [05:56] just to make sure [05:57] nope, nothing [06:00] killall pulseaudio [06:00] maybe [06:01] my system isn't even picking up my soundcard [06:03] is there a sound driver i can install from somewhere? [06:03] shamus, try this pulseaudio -k ; start-pulseaudio-x11 [06:06] Andre_Gondim, "Home directory /home/shamus not ours Cannot access autospawn lock" [06:14] when i watch porno, the first 1-2 sec of the movie lags [06:14] it didnt do this in intrepid [06:16] miik: please keep it family-friendly [06:16] ok, but this is true [06:17] No need to mention it here. You can simply say "movies". [06:19] Anything new in the +1 world lately? [06:19] just waiting for alpha4 :) [06:19] ah. [06:20] So we're in a freeze... then there would not be anything new. =P [06:20] * DanaG goes to boot from Win7 back to Ubuntu. [06:23] my movies are slowmo for 2 secs, then they play normal [06:23] is this cuz i use 180 drivers in jaunty, but used 177 in intrepid? [06:23] is there anyway to get 3d to work, as well as graphics card acceleration for videos to work in a3? [06:26] yes [06:26] shamus: yes for nvidia, not sure for the rest [06:26] add IgnoreABI TRUE to xorg.conf [06:30] fosco_: does the regular 180.22-pkg1 work? [06:30] i use 180 deb package [06:32] fosco_: thanks installing now [06:33] does anyone know why my sound seems to crackle when my CPU usage is high? [06:33] you should try changing pulse to alsa [06:34] fosco_: i am using alsa [06:37] fosco_: nevermind that, im using pulseaudio, but when i attempt to kill pulseaudio i lose all sound [06:42] Ooopsie, looks like now I'm waiting for it, too. [06:42] Heh, can't fix Grub on ext4 with an Intrepid LiveCD. =P [07:30] fosco_: i installed the deb for 180 nvidia drivers and with no luck, as the system starts telling me X is broken and i forces me to choose "Generic" (default) settings [07:31] have you added the serverflag? [07:33] i typed the command into the terminal that the nvidia X server settings tells me to if thats what you mean [07:34] no, one thing more to do... [07:34] oh [07:34] i know very little about ubuntu, sorry [07:35] http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6378516&postcount=25 [07:35] take a look on the serverflags comments [07:48] shamus: I found a great set of documentation, want a link? [07:48] lucent: yes please [07:49] shamus: http://www.ubuntupocketguide.com [07:50] if you're serious about using Ubuntu or even Gnome-based Linux distros in general, that book plus the Ubuntu Kung-Fu are good books to buy [07:52] it's cheap too, considering you get a print version under $10 bucks [07:52] most pocket guides are $16 and up [08:00] lucent: thanks [08:04] shamus: I started with real books, I think 6-7 books that were all technical references [08:05] the technical references are boring time-limited documents that you have anyways from UNIX style manual pages [08:05] I wish I had a cool guide like that kung-fu book [08:05] "Wizards of MS-DOS" book is one reference I wish I hadn't loaned out to my ex-girlfriend ;P [08:06] never got that bloody thing back [08:07] as interesting as some of this stuff is, i was really only drawn to linux in hopes of security (through obscurity), i really just use it for basic everyday stuff, but then again thats all i use my computer for (no more windows for me) [08:07] !alpha4 [08:07] Sorry, I don't know anything about alpha4 [08:07] !beta [08:07] If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Intrepid. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. [08:07] er [08:07] Eh, what was the upcoming thing? [08:07] Oh, and someone might want to fix that factoid. =P [08:09] shamus: take my advice, get at least the pocket reference [08:09] lucent: ok [08:15] lucent: so i guess im stuck with a completely broken X server until a new update? [08:16] only if you broke it [08:16] use the latest stable release if you need to use your computer [08:16] well, i cant use any nvidia drivers, so that's broken to me [08:17] how do i roll back to 8.10? [08:17] you cannot [08:17] re-install [08:17] sweet [08:18] at least my /home and / are separate (learned that one the hard way) [08:18] :) [08:18] you don't have backups? [08:20] nope [08:20] didn't bother, because i thought everything would work just fine [08:21] erg, it is my experience that no system designed by a human is perfect [08:22] well no, humans cant be perfect [08:22] 1TB hard disks are under $100usd [08:23] other then 200 gb of tv shows though, i wouldn't really lose anything [08:23] it's a wish-for-pain if you don't keep backups [08:23] I usually do binary backups of my / when I am about to try an upgrade [08:23] boot from cd, cat the partition to a file [08:24] hm, cat can do bad things [08:24] well, dd_rescue is good as well [08:24] * lucent hugs dd_rescue [08:25] nothing is important in / though right? (other then system files) [08:25] the /var is important [08:25] I always save /var and /etc [08:25] what does it do exactly? [08:25] not any one thing in particular [08:26] state-machine data that needs to be saved accross reboots is stored in /var [08:26] across* [08:26] oh, i've messed up quite a few installs before, but saving those things never once seemed important [08:26] if you have encrypted home directories, as in Jaunty alpha3, then some key information is stored in /var [08:27] without it you would fail to recover your home dir [08:27] oh, it doesn't use a crypto device on the mobo or a usb key? [08:27] nope, that is all kernel space [08:28] oh [08:28] jaunty alpha3 style encrypted home dirs are enacted using ecryptfs [08:28] i.e. userspace [08:29] you seem pretty smart, i have a question for you about my motherboard (ASUS P5l-VM-1394), what would cause a windows install from halting while starting every single time (that requires the CMOS to be cleared every single time i want to run windows) that ubuntu would completely ignore, allowing me to use it without issue? [08:30] your question has some kind of syntax error [08:30] lol [08:30] I don't understand what you're asking [08:31] i have a problem with my motherboard that prevents windows from starting (it halts in the boot process), but when i choose ubuntu it ignores this issue and allows me to start normally? [08:31] Ubuntu might boot with a kernel/initrd combination that supports a feature your other operating system does not [08:32] an example of this would be SATA hard disk support [08:32] you might have bad RAM [08:32] i suppose, but win xp, win vista, and win 7 all stopped working one day (along with one of my memory channels) but ubuntu continues to work [08:32] I suggest running memtest86 to confirm/disprove [08:33] * lucent pats his own ass [08:33] I'm not making this stuff up, I've seen it myself before [08:33] i sent the board to asus to repair, and they sent the same board back with the same issue [08:33] yeah [08:33] i've tried 4 different sticks of memory in every slot [08:33] I would declare fail and go find a working machine [08:33] lol [08:34] life is short, diagnosing stupid computer hardware problems is not the way I want to go [08:34] the funny thing is, if i clear the cmos before starting my machine windows doesnt halt, and boots as normal [08:34] that's not funny [08:35] it's broken. [08:35] yeah, it sounds bad [08:35] this machine is very old though (3 years) [08:35] suggested use is a boat anchor [08:35] lol [08:36] any suggested motherboard you've had a good time with? i've bought 5 asus boards and they are all failing on me [08:36] I'm into different gear than I used to be [08:36] I would suggest a toaster oven from XPC or a laptop [08:37] i.e. shuttle xpc [08:37] i'd rather build another desktop, just not choose asus next time [08:37] the amd64 based shuttle xpc is the quietest and best performing, best looking, desktop machine I've ever owned [08:39] shamus: for real though, an MSI Wind or Asus eeePC 901 would be optimal [08:39] this machine is the loudest thing in my house, with 3 tornados. noise doesn't bother me [08:39] you seem to be in denial about a few key factors in PC component selection [08:40] ? [08:40] 1) If it moves, it will fail. [08:40] yes [08:40] all things do [08:40] 2) If it is hot, it will fail. [08:41] thus what I'm talking about makes a lot of sense [08:41] and your aircraft carrier with a bad DIMM slot does not [08:41] or...i could change my motherboard out with something that costs a bit more then my lunch did and have a perfectly working system [08:42] * lucent sighs [08:43] i'd rather have a big pc then a tiny little eeePC [08:46] my time is worth $150/h to me [08:46] have fun with your machine. [09:16] Is anybody else having troubles with kde session locking? I close the lid and it locks but about every 4th or 5th time it refuses to unlock even if the correct pasword is provided [09:16] I have restart X to get it to play nice. [09:23] when is next alpha planned to be released? [09:54] oooo, ath5k is used in favour of ath_pci now [09:54] that'll save some headaches [09:56] tgpraveen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule [09:56] SwedeMike: thanks [10:27] Jaunty is now good to go with hotplug... [10:27] for wacoms that is. [10:28] Just slaping the daemon on will make things sort of work. [10:43] hi [10:43] which grafical package manager is default in kubuntu jaunty? [10:49] I couldnt find any bug report regarding the sound problems, so I filed one. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pulseaudio/+bug/323878 [10:49] Launchpad bug 323878 in pulseaudio "sound doesn't work until manually execute start-pulseaudio-x11" [Undecided,New] [10:51] is it safe to use ext4? [10:53] depends. I like to have filesystems be mainstream for a few years before I use them, but it all depends on how picky you are about your data [10:53] the longer it's been in wide production, the less risk of bugs [10:53] can a filesystem be upgraded like any other program? or is it possible that ext4 in ubuntu 9.04 will be more stable than the ext4 now? [10:54] filesystem code is in the kernel, so when kernel is upgraded, so is the filesystem code [10:54] so yes, if you're running an older kernel than 2.6.28, ext4 is probably better now [10:54] so when i install now ubuntu 9.04, at the release day of ubuntu 9.04 final it will have the same ext4 stability as a frssh ubuntu 9.04 final installation? [11:00] so that was my question [11:00] if the ext4 performance/stability is also upgraded which every ubuntu 9.04 aalpha, beta etc... upgrade [11:01] when new kernels come in [11:02] etech: code that aint broke is unlikely to be fixed but yes, if there are bugs then each kernel will bring fixes. [11:02] ok [11:14] How do I get to a list of Jaunty only bugs of LaunchPad? [11:16] CrownAmbassador: the guys in #launchpad can help you use the features [11:16] CrownAmbassador: I agree that some of the search functions on launchpad aren't the most obvious to see at first [11:16] ikonia: Thanks for that === user_ is now known as momomo [12:43] Hi guys. Having a issue playing avi movies. Usually I just tried to play it and then it prompted me to install gstreamer. It did this once, but I was updating my system, so I couldn't do it then. When opening the avi again it opened and then the box that is suppose to ask you if it can search for the codecs pops up, but has nothing in it. I have to force quit it. When trying to open it again, Movie Player opens for a second and then closes. How can [12:48] is anyone else having notifcations covering gnome-panel? This actually should be ffixed with notification-deamon 0.4 [13:19] my kubuntu jaunty system flickers about a lot after login, then gives me a black screen with a working mouse cursor. I have deleted ~/.kde and started again, but the same thing happens. Any suggestions? [13:37] * popey chroots to his kubuntu install to see if he can update it and that might "fix" it [13:43] Gdmorning ;) [13:45] hi guys [13:46] hello [13:46] I am on 8.10 and I wanted to get the latest version of empathy so I am uspposed to get it from the telepathy ppa right frm launchpad? [13:47] well could some one confirm how this works coz I added it's url to my software sources list and successfully added the pgp kety [13:47] but then only very few updates were successfully installed and many of the empathy updates are shown available but [13:47] are grayed out [13:48] and the update manager asks me if I want to do a partial upgrrade which I click yes then also nothing gets installed [13:48] yeah I'm trying to get the wine to update through the repository thing and when i changed the Visual settings on desktop it started acting right for checking and not hanging for ever for normal updates ;) [13:48] and I am still stuck with the ver that came with 8.10 [13:48] could some one please help me [13:49] tgpraveen ? I could try tell me where and what to install ? [13:50] I want the latest version of empathy chat client which uses the telepathy framework [13:51] and one more thing now in synaptic when I click on mark all upgrades I get as NOT AUTHENTICATED many updates related to emopathy [13:51] are you updating it through using a special private key etc.. in the sources section ? [13:52] well while adding the ppa source to my software sources list I had to add the openpgp certification authentication [13:52] but it has been done successfully I think [13:54] yeah I'm getting the same wierd thing from the new wine but on my other hard drive from fresh install I was able to get the key and everything to work but didn't have enough room to move files so I reinstalled on this new 40 gig drive for testing and i'm getting the same thing [13:55] rainmanp7: ok.thx [13:55] Actuallly this new install got screwed up and i just reinstalled without formating right over the files to be exact [13:55] maybe some one more experienced could shed some light on this issue [13:55] tgpraveen could you try something for me ? [13:56] oh man this is gr8 [13:56] I just tried it frm synaptic and even though it was coming as [13:56] NOT AUTHENTICATED but still mark all upgrades cured everything [13:56] now I have the latest version [13:56] woohoo [13:56] rainmanp7: so what were you saying to try? [13:57] tgpraveen tell me if you can download a simple small file http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/Scott%20Ritchie.gpg [13:57] tell me if you can even download it becasue yesterday i could and now i can't [13:57] k [13:58] yeah let me try that to mark all upgrades :) [14:04] k [14:04] try and tell here [14:05] ok ? [14:05] and by the way [14:05] that link that you gave is not [14:05] working [14:05] ok so it's not just me then [14:05] yup [14:05] tgpraveen thank you [14:06] anytime man [14:06] yeah that server has got to be down [14:07] tgpraveen there was something i noticed about upgrading those packages with synaptic [14:07] or rather anything [14:07] what? [14:09] tgpraveen If i set my desktop ->System->Prefrences->Aperance to um normal or the least the thing started to seem to act right and version 9 had compiz rolling already when i didn't even enable it [14:09] This was causing me to watch the status bar roll it was fast but it just hung out at times and came back and gave errors [14:26] Is there a program I could run to help developers on the system configuration or burn in test for new ubuntu releases or current version etc. [14:27] aka software testing ? [14:40] rainmanp7 look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/ISO/Procedures [15:02] Hey, how can i update modules in /lib/modules/... so modprobe knows about them? [15:18] gourgi thanks :) [15:27] hey, is gnash able to play every youtube video? cause here only some play :( [15:46] When I started and entered into ubuntu, The sound-card worked well. But When I listen to music or view movie, It is mute. I want to adjust the sound volume, but it's disabled. How to do? [15:47] Who can help me?(I updated Ubuntu 8.10 to 9.04alpha...). [15:48] I think it's not the sound driver problem. === Rafik_ is now known as Rafik [15:54] i am getting frequent X freezes on current jaunty mostly while using firefox-3.1... couldnt find any error messeges though... [15:54] anyone else? [16:15] When I click button in some window, I can hear sound of ubuntu theme. But why I cann't hear sound when I play music or movie? [16:18] martin_: "alsamixer -Dhw" and raise the volume in all tabs. also try "killall pulseaudio" [16:24] Thanks a lot. Let me try [16:27] good evening [16:28] I have tried. But I still cann't listen to music. But the ubuntu theme sound is ok. [16:28] very strange! The Real player is worked well. [16:29] martin_: maybe something usefull here http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1041622 , i don't know [16:29] ok, it worked well every one. [16:30] nice :) [16:30] But what's wrong with my ubuntu? Is it for my sound volume too little? [16:31] Thanks very much. I am appreciated to you. [16:40] * cwillu sighs [16:40] RIP bug #319818, died in mysterious circumstances [16:40] Launchpad bug 319818 in pm-utils "dbus-send...suspend doesn't work while X is running (breaks suspend/hibernate from menu)" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/319818 [16:47] how do i switch to a higher resolution then 800x600 in virtualbox? xrandr offers me no higher resolution than that [16:54] user___: install the guest additions. I don't think there are any for jaunty yet though [16:55] SiDi: is there a general way? lenny f.e. runs full-screen without installing them (or are they installing them without me noticing?) [16:56] Usually virtualbox offers guest additions. I don't know about guest linux's, i only have host linux's [16:57] Can't even open google.com to search T_T damn neighboors T_T === kalpik is now known as kalpiknigam === kalpiknigam is now known as kalpik [17:02] Hi, has anyone experience this bug where button 1 is being interpreted as a middle click? [17:02] it's really frigging annoying === knurra is now known as knurrad === geser_ is now known as geser === bluesmoke is now known as Amaranth [18:59] will jaunty interface redesigned for the release? [19:23] hello! [19:32] what is wrong with acroread? it starts, displays window or half of document and hangs with no CPU usage [19:32] the jaunty live cd can install on ext4, right? [19:32] can create and install on ext4, i mean [19:34] afaik yes [19:35] alternate can definitly [19:57] Oh hey, is it possible to make the Wubi thingy boot an existing partitioned Ubuntu? [20:07] lamalex: There's certainly plenty of reprorts of it in the bugtracker - I assume it's the buttons on a synaptics touchpad you are referring to [20:07] The workaround is to roll back to 0.15.2-0ubuntu8 [20:08]