| cprofitt | question: If a bug is marked as confirmed in another distro should it by default be confirmed for Ubuntu? | 00:02 |
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| hggdh | not necessarily, cprofitt . What is the bug #? | 00:06 |
| hggdh | id the versions and local patches are the same, good chance | 00:07 |
| hggdh | s/id/if/ | 00:07 |
| cprofitt | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/313486 | 00:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 313486 in fedora "internal microphone doesn't work on Medion MD 96630" [Unknown,Confirmed] | 00:08 |
| hggdh | cprofitt, difficult to say if they are talking about the same thing... | 00:12 |
| cprofitt | yeah... I did not see a direct link in that case... so was curious if there was a process in those cases | 00:12 |
| hggdh | not to my knowledge; even more, Fedora is not the upstream for the (many) packages involved. It is basically a question of good old horse-sense | 00:14 |
| cprofitt | I am still developing that... | 00:14 |
| cprofitt | I marked it incomplete and asked for some more information | 00:14 |
| hggdh | :-) so am I, and I guarantee you I have been trying for many long years | 00:14 |
| cprofitt | lol | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | I have 15 years of Windows experience... but ~2 with Linux | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | so a bit light in the breeches for troubleshooting | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | but practice and effort do make perfect | 00:15 |
| hggdh | here... 35 years, about 30 with UNIX, and Linux since 96 | 00:15 |
| * cprofitt bows to his elder | 00:16 | |
| hggdh | (not counting IBM zOS, Windows, Digital, and etc). | 00:16 |
| hggdh | I am be an elder, but dumb compared to some here | 00:16 |
| cprofitt | I do not count my early years | 00:16 |
| cprofitt | I first programmed in 1972... but not sure I should count that since I was only 6 | 00:17 |
| hggdh | :-) | 00:17 |
| cprofitt | and I do not remember it at all | 00:17 |
| hggdh | I started with 20 | 00:17 |
| cprofitt | well... the programming bit | 00:17 |
| cprofitt | just the punch cards | 00:17 |
| hggdh | and got into Cobol, then Algol, Intel 8080 assembler (actually I did a quick go on the 4004... hardware counted to 15, then... overflow) | 00:18 |
| hggdh | and so on | 00:18 |
| cprofitt | cool... | 00:18 |
| cprofitt | I was very in to computers... discovered girls and did not get back in to them until 17 years later... | 00:19 |
| hggdh | :-) | 00:19 |
| hggdh | to them girls, or to them computers? | 00:20 |
| andresmujica | lol | 00:20 |
| andresmujica | i've discovered beer.. and girls.. | 00:21 |
| cprofitt | I did not get to beer until later... | 00:22 |
| cprofitt | I discovered girls at an early age... I was 11 when I was first invited to a Senior Ball | 00:22 |
| hggdh | well... keep in mind that during the seventies a computer was still something glamorous | 00:22 |
| andresmujica | and now is just beer and bugs... | 00:22 |
| hggdh | sic tempora gloria mundi... | 00:22 |
| cprofitt | my parents said no... but... I was in no position to discover beer until much later | 00:22 |
| andresmujica | mi first pc was a commodore 64. | 00:24 |
| andresmujica | thanks to it and a sony tv, i'm on glasses | 00:24 |
| cprofitt | My first was a Ti 99/4 | 00:25 |
| hggdh | there were no PCs when I started. The smalles one -- the (then) mini-computer usually was at the 100 kg on mass | 00:25 |
| andresmujica | wow.. | 00:26 |
| hggdh | yeah. 16Kb of memory, a large one would have (perhaps) 32k | 00:27 |
| hggdh | oooo, this is bad... I just got a hang on Evolution doing a keyring read... | 00:29 |
| hggdh | bad, bad, bad... I thought this was fixed... | 00:30 |
| hggdh | ok. will reboot due to some changes in /etc/modprobe.d, brb | 00:31 |
| andresmujica | raining... raining.. | 00:38 |
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| hggdh | eeeeh... another quassel user! | 01:51 |
| Hobbsee|Quassel | heh | 01:51 |
| * hggdh wonders how long it will last... | 01:52 | |
| Hobbsee|Quassel | not sure | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee|Quassel | depends how long it takes before it annoys me | 01:52 |
| Hobbsee|Quassel | i'd forgotten just how slow jaunty X was... | 01:52 |
| hggdh | :-) sort of what maco said... I do not think she lasted more than one hour | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee|Quassel | hehe | 01:53 |
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| hggdh | ! incognito!! | 01:53 |
| ubottu | Sorry, I don't know anything about incognito!! | 01:53 |
| Hobbsee` | the question will be how well it obeys the proxy settings | 01:54 |
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| cprofitt | http://fostergrant.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6487542 | 02:26 |
| cprofitt | sorry wrong channel | 02:26 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: did I last my hour? ;) | 02:37 |
| hggdh | Hobbsee, that depends if you are still using it or not ;-) | 02:50 |
| Hobbsee | hggdh: i'm not ;) | 02:54 |
| Hobbsee | jaunty X is just too slow | 02:55 |
| hggdh | then you barely made it, I guess... | 02:56 |
| Hobbsee | hehe | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | i think i will go back to it | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | but the fact that it's taking >1 second to render any window is just... | 02:57 |
| hggdh | weird... I do not see much problems on X performance on jaunty, but I am not using compiz | 02:57 |
| Hobbsee | not sure if it's just intel | 02:57 |
| hggdh | well -- my X was eating up about 50% CPU, until I unloaded fglrx | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | hrm, using EXA. I wonder if it would be any better under XAA | 02:58 |
| Hobbsee | ouchy | 02:58 |
| hggdh | I *know* there is a problem under KDE4 -- there is a bug about it | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | i've seen it under gnome as well, so i'm suspecting the driver, but... | 02:59 |
| hggdh | where to solve a rendering problem X got much slower | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | ahhh | 02:59 |
| hggdh | and this has been applied to jaunty | 02:59 |
| Hobbsee | right | 02:59 |
| hggdh | bug 254468. We were chatting about implications some hours ago | 03:00 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 254468 in xorg-server "MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254468 | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | oh, that one. right | 03:00 |
| ryanakca | Does having a duplicate automatically confirm a bug? Shouldn't it, since two people are having the same issue, but filed two seperate bug reports? | 03:00 |
| Hobbsee | oh dear, that bug has been limcore'd. | 03:01 |
| hggdh | ryanakca, sometimes people do not search for a similar bug | 03:01 |
| hggdh | Hobbsee, yes indeed | 03:01 |
| ryanakca | hggdh: Yes. Hence the creation of duplicates :) . | 03:02 |
| hggdh | ryanakca, correct. But having a duplicate does not make the bug confirmed. We need to be able to understand the issue, full docs, etc | 03:02 |
| hggdh | Hobbsee, nice person, but a bit alarmist | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | hah :) | 03:03 |
| Hobbsee | marking everything epic fail? | 03:03 |
| hggdh | indeed | 03:03 |
| * hggdh considers 'epic' as, well, something epic. Which means almost nothing is... | 03:04 | |
| hggdh | there are also a bit of discussion on what is privacy and what is security. I do not think I made my point, though | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | no, of course you didn't manage to make your point. | 03:05 |
| Hobbsee | ;) | 03:05 |
| cornucopic | Hi all.. | 03:39 |
| cornucopic | After attaching my patch, I have subscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug. | 03:40 |
| cornucopic | Is that all to be done for sponsorship ? | 03:41 |
| hggdh | cornucopic, usually, yes | 03:41 |
| cornucopic | hggdh, Cool. So, now I have to wait for the sponsor's comments? | 03:41 |
| hggdh | I guess so, yes | 03:42 |
| cornucopic | Thanks! | 03:42 |
| cornucopic | I have attached the patch to a bug. Shall I change the Bug status? | 03:54 |
| AnAnt | Hello, can anyone confirm a bug ? | 14:02 |
| AnAnt | I mean, I found a bug, after searching launchpad, I found that someone else reported the same bug | 14:02 |
| AnAnt | can I set the bug status to confirmed then ? | 14:02 |
| MrKanister | Hello AnAnt. Yes, you can mark the bug as confirmed if you can reproduce it. | 14:03 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 14:06 |
| MrKanister | AnAnt: you're welcome | 14:07 |
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| AnAnt | LP 308539 | 14:47 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 308539 in defoma "/usr/bin/defoma-hints broken due to deleted dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308539 | 14:47 |
| Rocket2DMn | AnAnt, i'll finish the triage on that | 14:53 |
| AnAnt | thanks | 14:54 |
| cprofitt | Can anyone take this triage to the next level -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/323599 | 15:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323599 in wine "When running compiz, after minimizing or switching Desktops sound is muted" [Undecided,New] | 15:16 |
| cprofitt | I am not sure how to proceed being that the information does not jump out at me with anything obvious | 15:16 |
| cprofitt | Rocket2DMn, | 15:16 |
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| hyperair | once a bug is nominated for a release (but not approved) i subscribe ubutnu-sru or motu-sru and wait right? | 16:04 |
| jpds | hyperair: Looks like that's what it says at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure | 16:25 |
| hyperair | jpds: yeah but the bugs aren't getting attention =( | 16:29 |
| jpds | hyperair: Go and poke a member of the team then :) | 16:41 |
| hyperair | eh which member? | 16:42 |
| techno_freak | hyperair, try catching hold of someone here on a weekday | 16:49 |
| hyperair | hmm | 16:49 |
| hyperair | okay | 16:49 |
| hyperair | here eh? | 16:49 |
| techno_freak | yes, or in #ubuntu-motu | 16:49 |
| hyperair | not on #ubuntu-motu or any place else? | 16:49 |
| hyperair | ah | 16:49 |
| techno_freak | either place, there are lots of common members :) | 16:49 |
| thomasdelbeke | Hi there, | 17:10 |
| thomasdelbeke | I would like to report a whishlist bug: | 17:10 |
| thomasdelbeke | http://paste.ubuntu.com/112497/ | 17:10 |
| thomasdelbeke | Can anyone guide me? | 17:10 |
| thomasdelbeke | There is not a decent backup package in main that will run uneventful in 8.10 through gui | 17:11 |
| thomasdelbeke | Hi again, is the channel manned? Just asking ... | 17:14 |
| techno_freak | manned? | 17:14 |
| thomasdelbeke | Oh sorry | 17:14 |
| thomasdelbeke | In Dutch: | 17:14 |
| thomasdelbeke | manned | 17:15 |
| thomasdelbeke | are there people present | 17:15 |
| thomasdelbeke | more or less | 17:15 |
| thomasdelbeke | I guess so! | 17:15 |
| thomasdelbeke | hehe | 17:15 |
| thomasdelbeke | http://paste.ubuntu.com/112497/ | 17:16 |
| thomasdelbeke | where to ask? | 17:16 |
| thomasdelbeke | right channel, wrong time? | 17:17 |
| thomasdelbeke | wrong channel , wright time? | 17:17 |
| kyselejsyrecek | thomasdelbeke: :D hi there | 17:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | always wrong time ("we don't like you very much")? | 17:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | hi | 17:18 |
| techno_freak | thomasdelbeke, right channel of course, but may be wrong time ;) | 17:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | ok no prob | 17:18 |
| thomasdelbeke | when to report back? | 17:18 |
| techno_freak | thomasdelbeke, if you dont find people answering, it would be better to come on a weekday :) | 17:19 |
| thomasdelbeke | ok | 17:19 |
| thomasdelbeke | I will leavbe now then | 17:19 |
| thomasdelbeke | thanks for that | 17:19 |
| thomasdelbeke | cu | 17:19 |
| techno_freak | welcome :) | 17:19 |
| kyselejsyrecek | cus | 17:19 |
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| lfaraone | How can I check if tehre are any bugs linked to a upstream bug number? | 18:04 |
| hyperair | don't think that's possible | 18:09 |
| greg-g | I think it warns you if you try to link an already linked upstream bug, but that wouldn't help you much. | 18:15 |
| allquixotic | Hi, I found a bug in Jaunty (a regression from 8.10) which causes hald to crash during input hotplugging when I have a Logitech ChillStream video game controller plugged in to USB. The controller worked, and hald didn't crash, under 8.10. What sort of priority should I file a bug with? What details should I include? | 18:17 |
| allquixotic | I ran hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes >& output.txt, plugged in controller while system was booted... Segmentation fault! boom! | 18:18 |
| mrooney | allquixotic: all bugs are filed as New status and Undecided importance :) | 18:28 |
| hyperair | can you set priority yourself? i was of the impression that only MOTUs could | 18:29 |
| hyperair | or developers | 18:29 |
| greg-g | and members of the Bug Control team | 18:31 |
| mrooney | hyperair: correct, also BugControl members, but yes | 18:31 |
| mrooney | greg-g: :) | 18:31 |
| mrooney | allquixotic: you seem to have good information, I would check to make sure something similar hasn't already been filed | 18:32 |
| mrooney | and then go for it | 18:32 |
| mrooney | allquixotic: tag it with regression-potential as well | 18:32 |
| mrooney | that is how we track regressions in pre-release versions, I believe | 18:33 |
| hyperair | either way, all regressions are high priority right? =p | 18:33 |
| greg-g | mrooney: :) | 18:33 |
| mrooney | greg-g: know anything about the next UDS yet? | 18:34 |
| greg-g | mrooney: I don't, actually | 18:34 |
| mrooney | I wonder if community members are being sponsored againi | 18:35 |
| greg-g | haven't thought that far in advance, really | 18:35 |
| greg-g | dunno | 18:35 |
| mrooney | it seems like around now was when stuff started happening for the last one, as I thought the next one was in April | 18:35 |
| greg-g | yeah, not sure what the plan is | 18:35 |
| greg-g | but, I gotta run, I'll let you know if I hear anything | 18:36 |
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| andol | I could use some advice on bug #323753. Is it really a bug or not? | 19:26 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323753 in dpkg "can not update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323753 | 19:26 |
| andersk | The dpkg assertion failure certainly looks very bug-like. | 19:38 |
| andersk | It is certainly a separate issue from the missing PPA keys, which are not a bug, and the missing main and universe components on archive.canonical.com, which is also not a bug. | 19:39 |
| andol | andersk: Ahh, completly missed the dpkg-assertion part, in the PPA and repo discussions. | 19:40 |
| * calc thinks the new bug reporting guidelines need to be much more prominent or have a checkbox at the end you have to check to be able to actually file a bug | 19:59 | |
| calc | since even after setting up the OOo reporting users are still not giving sufficient information :( | 20:00 |
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