[00:02] question: If a bug is marked as confirmed in another distro should it by default be confirmed for Ubuntu? [00:06] not necessarily, cprofitt . What is the bug #? [00:07] id the versions and local patches are the same, good chance [00:07] s/id/if/ [00:08] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/313486 [00:08] Launchpad bug 313486 in fedora "internal microphone doesn't work on Medion MD 96630" [Unknown,Confirmed] [00:12] cprofitt, difficult to say if they are talking about the same thing... [00:12] yeah... I did not see a direct link in that case... so was curious if there was a process in those cases [00:14] not to my knowledge; even more, Fedora is not the upstream for the (many) packages involved. It is basically a question of good old horse-sense [00:14] I am still developing that... [00:14] I marked it incomplete and asked for some more information [00:14] :-) so am I, and I guarantee you I have been trying for many long years [00:15] lol [00:15] I have 15 years of Windows experience... but ~2 with Linux [00:15] so a bit light in the breeches for troubleshooting [00:15] but practice and effort do make perfect [00:15] here... 35 years, about 30 with UNIX, and Linux since 96 [00:16] * cprofitt bows to his elder [00:16] (not counting IBM zOS, Windows, Digital, and etc). [00:16] I am be an elder, but dumb compared to some here [00:16] I do not count my early years [00:17] I first programmed in 1972... but not sure I should count that since I was only 6 [00:17] :-) [00:17] and I do not remember it at all [00:17] I started with 20 [00:17] well... the programming bit [00:17] just the punch cards [00:18] and got into Cobol, then Algol, Intel 8080 assembler (actually I did a quick go on the 4004... hardware counted to 15, then... overflow) [00:18] and so on [00:18] cool... [00:19] I was very in to computers... discovered girls and did not get back in to them until 17 years later... [00:19] :-) [00:20] to them girls, or to them computers? [00:20] lol [00:21] i've discovered beer.. and girls.. [00:22] I did not get to beer until later... [00:22] I discovered girls at an early age... I was 11 when I was first invited to a Senior Ball [00:22] well... keep in mind that during the seventies a computer was still something glamorous [00:22] and now is just beer and bugs... [00:22] sic tempora gloria mundi... [00:22] my parents said no... but... I was in no position to discover beer until much later [00:24] mi first pc was a commodore 64. [00:24] thanks to it and a sony tv, i'm on glasses [00:25] My first was a Ti 99/4 [00:25] there were no PCs when I started. The smalles one -- the (then) mini-computer usually was at the 100 kg on mass [00:26] wow.. [00:27] yeah. 16Kb of memory, a large one would have (perhaps) 32k [00:29] oooo, this is bad... I just got a hang on Evolution doing a keyring read... [00:30] bad, bad, bad... I thought this was fixed... [00:31] ok. will reboot due to some changes in /etc/modprobe.d, brb [00:38] raining... raining.. === Hobbsee is now known as Hobbsee|Quassel [01:51] eeeeh... another quassel user! [01:51] heh [01:52] * hggdh wonders how long it will last... [01:52] not sure [01:52] depends how long it takes before it annoys me [01:52] i'd forgotten just how slow jaunty X was... [01:53] :-) sort of what maco said... I do not think she lasted more than one hour [01:53] hehe === Hobbsee|Quassel is now known as Hobbsee === Hobbsee is now known as Hobbsee` [01:53] ! incognito!! [01:53] Sorry, I don't know anything about incognito!! [01:54] the question will be how well it obeys the proxy settings === Hobbsee` is now known as Hobbsee [02:26] http://fostergrant.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6487542 [02:26] sorry wrong channel [02:37] hggdh: did I last my hour? ;) [02:50] Hobbsee, that depends if you are still using it or not ;-) [02:54] hggdh: i'm not ;) [02:55] jaunty X is just too slow [02:56] then you barely made it, I guess... [02:57] hehe [02:57] i think i will go back to it [02:57] but the fact that it's taking >1 second to render any window is just... [02:57] weird... I do not see much problems on X performance on jaunty, but I am not using compiz [02:57] not sure if it's just intel [02:58] well -- my X was eating up about 50% CPU, until I unloaded fglrx [02:58] hrm, using EXA. I wonder if it would be any better under XAA [02:58] ouchy [02:59] I *know* there is a problem under KDE4 -- there is a bug about it [02:59] i've seen it under gnome as well, so i'm suspecting the driver, but... [02:59] where to solve a rendering problem X got much slower [02:59] ahhh [02:59] and this has been applied to jaunty [02:59] right [03:00] bug 254468. We were chatting about implications some hours ago [03:00] Launchpad bug 254468 in xorg-server "MASTER: momentary video garbage upon drawing new objects (particularly in KDE)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/254468 [03:00] oh, that one. right [03:00] Does having a duplicate automatically confirm a bug? Shouldn't it, since two people are having the same issue, but filed two seperate bug reports? [03:01] oh dear, that bug has been limcore'd. [03:01] ryanakca, sometimes people do not search for a similar bug [03:01] Hobbsee, yes indeed [03:02] hggdh: Yes. Hence the creation of duplicates :) . [03:02] ryanakca, correct. But having a duplicate does not make the bug confirmed. We need to be able to understand the issue, full docs, etc [03:03] Hobbsee, nice person, but a bit alarmist [03:03] hah :) [03:03] marking everything epic fail? [03:03] indeed [03:04] * hggdh considers 'epic' as, well, something epic. Which means almost nothing is... [03:05] there are also a bit of discussion on what is privacy and what is security. I do not think I made my point, though [03:05] no, of course you didn't manage to make your point. [03:05] ;) [03:39] Hi all.. [03:40] After attaching my patch, I have subscribed ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug. [03:41] Is that all to be done for sponsorship ? [03:41] cornucopic, usually, yes [03:41] hggdh, Cool. So, now I have to wait for the sponsor's comments? [03:42] I guess so, yes [03:42] Thanks! [03:54] I have attached the patch to a bug. Shall I change the Bug status? [14:02] Hello, can anyone confirm a bug ? [14:02] I mean, I found a bug, after searching launchpad, I found that someone else reported the same bug [14:02] can I set the bug status to confirmed then ? [14:03] Hello AnAnt. Yes, you can mark the bug as confirmed if you can reproduce it. [14:06] thanks [14:07] AnAnt: you're welcome === dodger__ is now known as Hurtz === apachelogger is now known as vacationlogger [14:47] LP 308539 [14:47] Launchpad bug 308539 in defoma "/usr/bin/defoma-hints broken due to deleted dependency" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/308539 [14:53] AnAnt, i'll finish the triage on that [14:54] thanks [15:16] Can anyone take this triage to the next level -- https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wine/+bug/323599 [15:16] Launchpad bug 323599 in wine "When running compiz, after minimizing or switching Desktops sound is muted" [Undecided,New] [15:16] I am not sure how to proceed being that the information does not jump out at me with anything obvious [15:16] Rocket2DMn, === Rafik_ is now known as Rafik [16:04] once a bug is nominated for a release (but not approved) i subscribe ubutnu-sru or motu-sru and wait right? [16:25] hyperair: Looks like that's what it says at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#Procedure [16:29] jpds: yeah but the bugs aren't getting attention =( [16:41] hyperair: Go and poke a member of the team then :) [16:42] eh which member? [16:49] hyperair, try catching hold of someone here on a weekday [16:49] hmm [16:49] okay [16:49] here eh? [16:49] yes, or in #ubuntu-motu [16:49] not on #ubuntu-motu or any place else? [16:49] ah [16:49] either place, there are lots of common members :) [17:10] Hi there, [17:10] I would like to report a whishlist bug: [17:10] http://paste.ubuntu.com/112497/ [17:10] Can anyone guide me? [17:11] There is not a decent backup package in main that will run uneventful in 8.10 through gui [17:14] Hi again, is the channel manned? Just asking ... [17:14] manned? [17:14] Oh sorry [17:14] In Dutch: [17:15] manned [17:15] are there people present [17:15] more or less [17:15] I guess so! [17:15] hehe [17:16] http://paste.ubuntu.com/112497/ [17:16] where to ask? [17:17] right channel, wrong time? [17:17] wrong channel , wright time? [17:18] thomasdelbeke: :D hi there [17:18] always wrong time ("we don't like you very much")? [17:18] hi [17:18] thomasdelbeke, right channel of course, but may be wrong time ;) [17:18] ok no prob [17:18] when to report back? [17:19] thomasdelbeke, if you dont find people answering, it would be better to come on a weekday :) [17:19] ok [17:19] I will leavbe now then [17:19] thanks for that [17:19] cu [17:19] welcome :) [17:19] cus === tim__sharitt is now known as tim_sharitt === shiyee_ is now known as shiyee === geser_ is now known as geser [18:04] How can I check if tehre are any bugs linked to a upstream bug number? [18:09] don't think that's possible [18:15] I think it warns you if you try to link an already linked upstream bug, but that wouldn't help you much. [18:17] Hi, I found a bug in Jaunty (a regression from 8.10) which causes hald to crash during input hotplugging when I have a Logitech ChillStream video game controller plugged in to USB. The controller worked, and hald didn't crash, under 8.10. What sort of priority should I file a bug with? What details should I include? [18:18] I ran hald --daemon=no --verbose=yes >& output.txt, plugged in controller while system was booted... Segmentation fault! boom! [18:28] allquixotic: all bugs are filed as New status and Undecided importance :) [18:29] can you set priority yourself? i was of the impression that only MOTUs could [18:29] or developers [18:31] and members of the Bug Control team [18:31] hyperair: correct, also BugControl members, but yes [18:31] greg-g: :) [18:32] allquixotic: you seem to have good information, I would check to make sure something similar hasn't already been filed [18:32] and then go for it [18:32] allquixotic: tag it with regression-potential as well [18:33] that is how we track regressions in pre-release versions, I believe [18:33] either way, all regressions are high priority right? =p [18:33] mrooney: :) [18:34] greg-g: know anything about the next UDS yet? [18:34] mrooney: I don't, actually [18:35] I wonder if community members are being sponsored againi [18:35] haven't thought that far in advance, really [18:35] dunno [18:35] it seems like around now was when stuff started happening for the last one, as I thought the next one was in April [18:35] yeah, not sure what the plan is [18:36] but, I gotta run, I'll let you know if I hear anything === tim__sharitt is now known as tim_sharitt [19:26] I could use some advice on bug #323753. Is it really a bug or not? [19:26] Launchpad bug 323753 in dpkg "can not update" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/323753 [19:38] The dpkg assertion failure certainly looks very bug-like. [19:39] It is certainly a separate issue from the missing PPA keys, which are not a bug, and the missing main and universe components on archive.canonical.com, which is also not a bug. [19:40] andersk: Ahh, completly missed the dpkg-assertion part, in the PPA and repo discussions. [19:59] * calc thinks the new bug reporting guidelines need to be much more prominent or have a checkbox at the end you have to check to be able to actually file a bug [20:00] since even after setting up the OOo reporting users are still not giving sufficient information :( === tim__sharitt is now known as tim_sharitt === torkiano is now known as jjardon === jjardon is now known as torkiano === geser_ is now known as geser === tim__sharitt is now known as tim_sharitt