| johnc4510 | morning all | 15:37 |
|---|---|---|
| kennymc0 | morning | 15:37 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 15:37 |
| kennymc0 | the last itb link is from the middle of december | 15:39 |
| johnc4510 | looking | 15:39 |
| tyche | Oh, is it morning? | 15:39 |
| johnc4510 | yep | 15:39 |
| kennymc0 | that's just what johnc4510 is telling me so i'm going with it | 15:39 |
| johnc4510 | ok kennymc0 delete it and... | 15:40 |
| johnc4510 | nick mentioned making the titles for ITP and ITB === ==== | 15:40 |
| kennymc0 | i can do that | 15:40 |
| johnc4510 | so that folks can use the table of contents to go right to an article | 15:40 |
| johnc4510 | k thx | 15:41 |
| kennymc0 | not a bad idea | 15:41 |
| johnc4510 | what's everyone working on? | 15:41 |
| tyche | trying to peal my eyes open. | 15:41 |
| johnc4510 | lol | 15:41 |
| johnc4510 | events are hard on old men hee hee | 15:41 |
| johnc4510 | anyone working on GCN?? | 15:42 |
| tyche | Yep. You can say that again. | 15:42 |
| kennymc0 | i'm working on the itb articles | 15:42 |
| kennymc0 | that's why i mentioned the last link | 15:42 |
| tyche | Well, I was thinking about it. I haven't reached the "working" stage yet. | 15:42 |
| johnc4510 | kennymc0: k | 15:42 |
| johnc4510 | ok i'll start on the GCN then and let tyche wake up. you can pick something else | 15:43 |
| tyche | johnc4510: I sent you that writeup | 15:43 |
| johnc4510 | is dave around | 15:43 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: thx | 15:43 |
| * kennymc0 hands tyche a cup of the thickest darkest coffee imaginable | 15:43 | |
| johnc4510 | where's myrtlebeach at?? | 15:43 |
| * tyche downs it without noticing. | 15:43 | |
| kennymc0 | no idea | 15:43 |
| * kennymc0 hands tyche another one hoping that this one will help wake him up enough to work | 15:44 | |
| johnc4510 | well if he's not around, tyche better work on the ITP section maybe ?? | 15:44 |
| kennymc0 | i can help if i finish my work soon enough | 15:45 |
| kennymc0 | oh johnc4510 about that last link that you said to delete it's probably a good thing that we arent including it because the title was "Ubuntu sucks. I hate Linux" | 15:47 |
| johnc4510 | yeah i saw that | 15:47 |
| johnc4510 | however, the article was very complimentary of Ubuntu | 15:48 |
| johnc4510 | it was an odd thing | 15:48 |
| kennymc0 | ah | 15:48 |
| kennymc0 | must have been a love hate sort of thing | 15:48 |
| johnc4510 | i initially read it because of the title and was surprised | 15:48 |
| johnc4510 | yeah | 15:48 |
| kennymc0 | first ITB is up | 15:58 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:01 |
| kennymc0 | second one is going to take a while | 16:02 |
| kennymc0 | long article | 16:02 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:02 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: kennymc0 were any pictures taken at the installfest? | 16:02 |
| kennymc0 | yeah | 16:02 |
| tyche | kennymc0 has some excellent ones. | 16:02 |
| tyche | I think mine were pretty much a duplication of his. | 16:03 |
| kennymc0 | http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii134/kennymc0/phoenix%20intrepid%20install%20fest/ | 16:03 |
| johnc4510 | looking | 16:03 |
| johnc4510 | ok, i'll work on integrating those into the summary | 16:04 |
| johnc4510 | thx they look good | 16:04 |
| * kennymc0 is mr photographer | 16:05 | |
| johnc4510 | lol | 16:05 |
| kennymc0 | i think the team should buy me a nice camera so i can take even better pictures :P | 16:05 |
| * kennymc0 is dreaming | 16:05 | |
| johnc4510 | lol | 16:05 |
| johnc4510 | you are dreaming son | 16:05 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 16:05 |
| tyche | Definitely dreaming. | 16:05 |
| kennymc0 | but i could take such better pictures with a better camera | 16:06 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: and i get raises before that happens hee hee | 16:06 |
| tyche | Do you really want better pictures of me wearing a kilt? Hee hee | 16:06 |
| tyche | You took some pretty good ones as it was. | 16:06 |
| kennymc0 | notice tyche most of the pictures of you were from the waist up | 16:06 |
| johnc4510 | smart thinking rofl | 16:07 |
| kennymc0 | that was on purpose | 16:07 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 16:07 |
| tyche | At least 2 of them weren't | 16:07 |
| kennymc0 | well i had to show others what torchure we were subjected to by you | 16:07 |
| tyche | I'm thinking of sending one of them to Utilikilts for their gallery. | 16:08 |
| tyche | I'm a light? | 16:08 |
| johnc4510 | did anyone get a pic of the banner? | 16:08 |
| johnc4510 | i hope | 16:08 |
| tyche | torchure = standing light with high intensity bulb. Torture = Gitmo | 16:08 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 16:08 |
| kennymc0 | ................ | 16:09 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: you happen to get a banner pic? | 16:09 |
| tyche | I don't think so, other than one of it being unrolled to be mounted. | 16:09 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:09 |
| kennymc0 | yeah i didnt get one either | 16:09 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:09 |
| kennymc0 | other than it being rolled up | 16:09 |
| kennymc0 | i even got a picture of tyche talking to you on skype :) | 16:10 |
| johnc4510 | ah | 16:10 |
| tyche | Yea, that was a good one. | 16:10 |
| kennymc0 | i even got a couple of pictures of tyche taking pictures like i normally do | 16:13 |
| kennymc0 | :) | 16:14 |
| tyche | First ITP is up. | 16:17 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:18 |
| johnc4510 | ok, i just uploaded the summary of the installfest with a link to the wiki page i set up | 16:35 |
| * kennymc0 claps | 16:36 | |
| johnc4510 | :) | 16:36 |
| kennymc0 | :) | 16:36 |
| johnc4510 | myrtlebeachbums1: hey | 16:38 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | *YAWN* Hi | 16:38 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | Man I had being primary on-call. | 16:38 |
| johnc4510 | ah | 16:39 |
| johnc4510 | check with tyche on where he's at on ITP | 16:39 |
| * kennymc0 waits for johnc4510 to get the whip and tell myrtlebeachbums1 to "get to work" | 16:39 | |
| kennymc0 | rofl | 16:39 |
| johnc4510 | please | 16:39 |
| johnc4510 | lol | 16:39 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | Rules on on-call: 1. Never watch a movie. It draws calls like a bug zapper draws flies, 2. Work has a sensor to determine the moment you hit the deepest REM sleep so that they can call then. | 16:40 |
| tyche | myrtlebeachbums1: You can take the last ITP if you want | 16:40 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | Will do. | 16:40 |
| kennymc0 | it looks like i have to drive out to tempe to pick up my brother from asu real soon so i might not be able to finish the itb articles | 16:42 |
| kennymc0 | i'm almost finished reading the second article so if someone could take the last one that would be very much appreciated | 16:42 |
| tyche | johnc4510: your summarization looks good. | 16:42 |
| johnc4510 | thanks | 16:42 |
| johnc4510 | you did most of it | 16:42 |
| johnc4510 | lol | 16:42 |
| tyche | Hey, what can I say. I tried. | 16:43 |
| tyche | Second ITP is in. | 16:43 |
| johnc4510 | myrtlebeachbums1: you can move down to ION after that last ITP link please | 16:43 |
| johnc4510 | there are 3 of those | 16:43 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | Okay. Going to paste in that ITP link as soon as I get logged in. | 16:43 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: can you summarize the technical board meeting please | 16:44 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: just copy and paste it in please | 16:44 |
| tyche | OK, I'll see what I can do with it. | 16:44 |
| johnc4510 | you may have to clean it up some | 16:45 |
| tyche | Looks like I need to clean it up a lot. also condense some of it. | 16:45 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:45 |
| johnc4510 | it doesn't matter how long it is i don't think | 16:46 |
| johnc4510 | we're a little short on fodder this wk | 16:46 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 16:46 |
| tyche | kk | 16:47 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | I see we changed the article title format for ITB. | 16:48 |
| johnc4510 | yeah | 16:49 |
| johnc4510 | nick wants to try it out | 16:49 |
| kennymc0 | it's supposed to be the same for ITP too right? | 16:49 |
| johnc4510 | the should look the same | 16:50 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | There they go raising the bar and causing us more work kennymc0 ;) | 16:50 |
| tyche | Yep. About now kennymc0 is READY for a bar. Hee hee | 16:50 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | LOL | 16:51 |
| johnc4510 | ok guys the ITB needs to be === === not ==== ==== please | 16:51 |
| johnc4510 | so they look alike | 16:51 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 16:51 |
| kennymc0 | picky picky picky | 16:55 |
| johnc4510 | yep | 16:55 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 16:55 |
| kennymc0 | cant exactly fix it since someone is in the editor right now | 16:55 |
| johnc4510 | i'm out | 16:55 |
| kennymc0 | second itb up | 16:56 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:56 |
| kennymc0 | i think i can do the last itb real quick before i have to leave to pick up my brother | 16:57 |
| kennymc0 | and i fixed it so that it was the way you wanted | 16:57 |
| johnc4510 | k | 16:57 |
| johnc4510 | thx | 16:57 |
| tyche | myrtlebeachbums1: let me know when you're out, please | 17:01 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | I'm out. ION and the ITP that I did are done and ready for review. | 17:01 |
| johnc4510 | hee hee | 17:01 |
| johnc4510 | k | 17:02 |
| myrtlebeachbums1 | ...and I got another &(*(&*&$#Q call from work about a problem. GGGGrrrrrr..... | 17:02 |
| johnc4510 | k | 17:02 |
| * myrtlebeachbums1 is not a happy camper. | 17:02 | |
| johnc4510 | tyche: i've got the server team summary done | 17:02 |
| johnc4510 | just need to add it | 17:02 |
| tyche | OK, I'm out | 17:04 |
| johnc4510 | k thx | 17:04 |
| kennymc0 | i need to add my last ITB real quick so i can leave soon | 17:05 |
| johnc4510 | k | 17:06 |
| johnc4510 | i'll wait | 17:06 |
| tyche | johnc4510: How'd I do? | 17:06 |
| johnc4510 | looking | 17:06 |
| kennymc0 | i still have the upcoming events to do but if no one minds i can do that after i get back | 17:07 |
| kennymc0 | should be about an hourish or so | 17:07 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: that looks fine | 17:07 |
| johnc4510 | thx | 17:07 |
| kennymc0 | well gotta go bbiab | 17:07 |
| johnc4510 | kennymc0: ok | 17:07 |
| tyche | Hmmm. I see a small correction (formatting) I need to address. | 17:09 |
| johnc4510 | k | 17:11 |
| tyche | OK, that looks better | 17:13 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 17:14 |
| tyche | Who's covering Upcoming Meetings this week? | 17:15 |
| johnc4510 | kenny | 17:15 |
| johnc4510 | he'll be back shortly i think | 17:15 |
| johnc4510 | had to pick up his brother | 17:15 |
| tyche | Ah. OK. Splitting my time between things I missed that entry in the channel. Sorry. | 17:15 |
| johnc4510 | np | 17:16 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: did nick take out his credit this wk. i thought i added it at the start | 17:22 |
| tyche | I think someone else may have taken it out. I added yours and mine, but his wasn't in at that time. | 17:23 |
| johnc4510 | ah ok | 17:24 |
| johnc4510 | thx | 17:24 |
| tyche | johnc4510: would SoC be System-on-a-Chip? | 17:26 |
| johnc4510 | what article? | 17:27 |
| tyche | Reference: Canonical joins ARM community | 17:27 |
| johnc4510 | looking | 17:27 |
| johnc4510 | yeah i guess it would, that's the only thing wikipedia gives as an explanation | 17:28 |
| johnc4510 | use it | 17:28 |
| tyche | Yep. that's the same reference I saw. Hee hee | 17:29 |
| johnc4510 | k | 17:29 |
| tyche | Great minds, and all that. To bad we don't have any. LOL | 17:29 |
| johnc4510 | lol | 17:29 |
| tyche | You know? It's great having the Glossary page. It's faster, and more consistent when all I have to do is copy and paste. | 17:31 |
| johnc4510 | cool | 17:32 |
| johnc4510 | glad it helps you | 17:32 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 17:32 |
| johnc4510 | tyche: i'm out if you need to add any glossary terms | 17:43 |
| johnc4510 | :) | 17:43 |
| tyche | Going in. | 17:44 |
| johnc4510 | ok, i'm saving | 17:44 |
| johnc4510 | out | 17:44 |
| tyche | OK. | 17:44 |
| tyche | And out. | 17:45 |
| johnc4510 | ok, tyche the second bullet point on 5 things mark s. is odd | 17:46 |
| johnc4510 | ? | 17:46 |
| johnc4510 | once one has the individual has the inspiration? | 17:47 |
| tyche | Where? | 17:47 |
| johnc4510 | ist in ITP | 17:47 |
| johnc4510 | 2nd bullet poiiint | 17:47 |
| johnc4510 | point | 17:47 |
| tyche | got it. My fault, I was following two trains of thought at the same time. I'll fix. | 17:48 |
| johnc4510 | np | 17:48 |
| tyche | Fixed | 17:49 |
| johnc4510 | thx | 17:49 |
| johnc4510 | much better :) | 17:49 |
| * tyche is brain dead. Only the body is still moving | 17:50 | |
| tyche | Hee hee | 17:50 |
| johnc4510 | lol | 17:50 |
| johnc4510 | np | 17:50 |
| tyche | "Igor, fetch the electrodes" | 17:52 |
| tyche | "Clear" >>>ZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAPPP!!!<<< | 17:52 |
| johnc4510 | hee hee | 17:52 |
| tyche | "Igor, where did you get this brain? Whose is it?" | 17:53 |
| johnc4510 | careful there we still need you for some things lol | 17:53 |
| tyche | "Abby something. Abby Normal . . ." | 17:53 |
| tyche | Hee hee | 17:54 |
| johnc4510 | :-> | 17:55 |
| johnc4510 | hmm, they've got the ITB articles bullet pointed and they shouldn't be with headers | 17:58 |
| johnc4510 | fixed | 17:59 |
| tyche | johnc4510-laptop: I haven't heard from kennymc0. Want me to put up the Upcoming Events? | 19:37 |
| johnc4510-laptop | yes please | 19:37 |
| tyche | kk. Going in. | 19:37 |
| johnc4510-laptop | i'm doing my final run thru now | 19:37 |
| tyche | Proofing them. | 19:40 |
| tyche | Saved and out. | 19:40 |
| kennymc0 | i'm back | 19:40 |
| kennymc0 | sorry it took so long | 19:41 |
| johnc4510-laptop | k thx | 19:41 |
| johnc4510-laptop | np | 19:41 |
| johnc4510-laptop | tyche took up _your_ slack | 19:41 |
| johnc4510-laptop | lol | 19:41 |
| johnc4510-laptop | jk | 19:41 |
| kennymc0 | well he needed to do something for letting me do that one week of upcoming events all on my own | 19:41 |
| johnc4510-laptop | however he did say something about you owing him | 19:41 |
| kennymc0 | 36 EVENTS!!!!! | 19:41 |
| kennymc0 | at least i was able to finish all of the ITB stuff before i had to leave | 19:43 |
| tyche | And you think you're the only one who's had difficult weeks? | 19:43 |
| tyche | Yep. and that was good | 19:43 |
| johnc4510-laptop | :) | 19:43 |
| kennymc0 | what was it that you wanted to point out to me tyche | 19:43 |
| johnc4510-laptop | it's been a good job by all thx | 19:43 |
| kennymc0 | i see that you said something about a format thing that you wanted to talk to me about | 19:43 |
| kennymc0 | or was that just a general comment? | 19:44 |
| tyche | johnc4510-laptop: I don't remember anything. | 19:44 |
| johnc4510-laptop | ah | 19:44 |
| johnc4510-laptop | yes | 19:44 |
| johnc4510-laptop | the ITB summaries had bullet points in addition to the new headers | 19:44 |
| johnc4510-laptop | they don't need both | 19:45 |
| johnc4510-laptop | so i took the bullet points out | 19:45 |
| johnc4510-laptop | :) | 19:45 |
| kennymc0 | ah ok | 19:47 |
| johnc4510-laptop | so it's either one or the other | 19:47 |
| kennymc0 | ok | 19:47 |
| kennymc0 | wasnt sure so i just put both in | 19:47 |
| johnc4510-laptop | since this is a test run of the new formatting we'll see | 19:47 |
| johnc4510-laptop | np | 19:47 |
| johnc4510-laptop | i should have explained it better | 19:48 |
| johnc4510-laptop | beuno: hey bud | 20:19 |
| johnc4510-laptop | ok, issue #127 is published | 20:19 |
| johnc4510-laptop | thx to all the team for another great issue | 20:19 |
| johnc4510-laptop | and they're hard work | 20:19 |
| johnc4510-laptop | you folks rock | 20:20 |
| johnc4510-laptop | !! | 20:20 |
| johnc4510-laptop | new issue of the UWN #127 is out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue127 | 20:28 |
| LirazSiri | hey guys | 21:45 |
| tyche | What's up? | 21:45 |
| LirazSiri | great, I wanted to ask why we weren't also doing jaunty bug statistics? | 21:46 |
| tyche | It'll probably come. Just as Jaunty updates will probably come when it goes Beta | 21:46 |
| tyche | That's when we usually start that. | 21:47 |
| LirazSiri | It makes more sense I think to focus on pre-release statistics than post-release statistics | 21:47 |
| LirazSiri | Thats what Debian do | 21:47 |
| LirazSiri | in fact, thats their criteria for release. When the RC bugs go down to 0 | 21:48 |
| tyche | Not really. Pre-release is all very well, but it's POST-release that lets people know what's been done. And if we waited for bugs to go to zero, we'd never get it out. | 21:48 |
| tyche | Plus, some of the bugs don't show up until AFTER the release. | 21:48 |
| tyche | Remember, we may USE Debian, but we are NOT Debian. Our ways are different. | 21:49 |
| LirazSiri | ah so you think people hold back until they see what experience others are getting with the new release. Interesting. | 21:49 |
| LirazSiri | yes, I remember reading Shuttleworth's rational for starting a new project rather than contributing to Debian | 21:50 |
| LirazSiri | contributing directly I mean. I think Ubuntu contributes plenty... | 21:50 |
| tyche | I know some of that takes place. Just as I know that there are people already running the Alpha release. Ubuntu people cover a wide range of experience and ability. Oh, and BTW, Ubuntu DOES contribute to Debian. Remember, Mark was a Debian developer, and there are STILL major contacts with it. | 21:51 |
| tyche | In fact, there are Debian developers that are Ubuntu developers. | 21:52 |
| tyche | At least from what I've heard. | 21:52 |
| LirazSiri | of course. Most of Ubuntu's strongest developers are also Debian Developers. If I'm not mistaken Mark took Debian's mailing list archives with him on a trip to the Artic to figure out whom to approach for a job developing Ubuntu | 21:53 |
| LirazSiri | it's a nice story actually | 21:53 |
| LirazSiri | last time I checked (I was doing a little research) - most Ubuntu developers lead "double" lives | 21:53 |
| LirazSiri | Ubuntu developers by day, Debian developers by night. Or something to that effect anyway | 21:54 |
| tyche | The point is that there's a wide open superhighway, not just a path, between Ubuntu and Debian. | 21:55 |
| LirazSiri | yep. ok I have to run off now, just wanted to say hello but I guess I missed most of the guys. | 21:55 |
| LirazSiri | take care tyche | 21:55 |
| tyche | What Debian does is very good. What Ubuntu does is very good. The two are not in competition, but in cooperation. | 21:55 |
| tyche | It's superbowl sunday. Most of them are watching the pre-game, and then the game. | 21:56 |
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