[15:37] morning all [15:37] morning [15:37] :) [15:39] the last itb link is from the middle of december [15:39] looking [15:39] Oh, is it morning? [15:39] yep [15:39] that's just what johnc4510 is telling me so i'm going with it [15:40] ok kennymc0 delete it and... [15:40] nick mentioned making the titles for ITP and ITB === ==== [15:40] i can do that [15:40] so that folks can use the table of contents to go right to an article [15:41] k thx [15:41] not a bad idea [15:41] what's everyone working on? [15:41] trying to peal my eyes open. [15:41] lol [15:41] events are hard on old men hee hee [15:42] anyone working on GCN?? [15:42] Yep. You can say that again. [15:42] i'm working on the itb articles [15:42] that's why i mentioned the last link [15:42] Well, I was thinking about it. I haven't reached the "working" stage yet. [15:42] kennymc0: k [15:43] ok i'll start on the GCN then and let tyche wake up. you can pick something else [15:43] johnc4510: I sent you that writeup [15:43] is dave around [15:43] tyche: thx [15:43] * kennymc0 hands tyche a cup of the thickest darkest coffee imaginable [15:43] where's myrtlebeach at?? [15:43] * tyche downs it without noticing. [15:43] no idea [15:44] * kennymc0 hands tyche another one hoping that this one will help wake him up enough to work [15:44] well if he's not around, tyche better work on the ITP section maybe ?? [15:45] i can help if i finish my work soon enough [15:47] oh johnc4510 about that last link that you said to delete it's probably a good thing that we arent including it because the title was "Ubuntu sucks. I hate Linux" [15:47] yeah i saw that [15:48] however, the article was very complimentary of Ubuntu [15:48] it was an odd thing [15:48] ah [15:48] must have been a love hate sort of thing [15:48] i initially read it because of the title and was surprised [15:48] yeah [15:58] first ITB is up [16:01] k [16:02] second one is going to take a while [16:02] long article [16:02] k [16:02] tyche: kennymc0 were any pictures taken at the installfest? [16:02] yeah [16:02] kennymc0 has some excellent ones. [16:03] I think mine were pretty much a duplication of his. [16:03] http://s263.photobucket.com/albums/ii134/kennymc0/phoenix%20intrepid%20install%20fest/ [16:03] looking [16:04] ok, i'll work on integrating those into the summary [16:04] thx they look good [16:05] * kennymc0 is mr photographer [16:05] lol [16:05] i think the team should buy me a nice camera so i can take even better pictures :P [16:05] * kennymc0 is dreaming [16:05] lol [16:05] you are dreaming son [16:05] :) [16:05] Definitely dreaming. [16:06] but i could take such better pictures with a better camera [16:06] tyche: and i get raises before that happens hee hee [16:06] Do you really want better pictures of me wearing a kilt? Hee hee [16:06] You took some pretty good ones as it was. [16:06] notice tyche most of the pictures of you were from the waist up [16:07] smart thinking rofl [16:07] that was on purpose [16:07] :) [16:07] At least 2 of them weren't [16:07] well i had to show others what torchure we were subjected to by you [16:08] I'm thinking of sending one of them to Utilikilts for their gallery. [16:08] I'm a light? [16:08] did anyone get a pic of the banner? [16:08] i hope [16:08] torchure = standing light with high intensity bulb. Torture = Gitmo [16:08] :) [16:09] ................ [16:09] tyche: you happen to get a banner pic? [16:09] I don't think so, other than one of it being unrolled to be mounted. [16:09] k [16:09] yeah i didnt get one either [16:09] k [16:09] other than it being rolled up [16:10] i even got a picture of tyche talking to you on skype :) [16:10] ah [16:10] Yea, that was a good one. [16:13] i even got a couple of pictures of tyche taking pictures like i normally do [16:14] :) [16:17] First ITP is up. [16:18] k [16:35] ok, i just uploaded the summary of the installfest with a link to the wiki page i set up [16:36] * kennymc0 claps [16:36] :) [16:36] :) [16:38] myrtlebeachbums1: hey [16:38] *YAWN* Hi [16:38] Man I had being primary on-call. [16:39] ah [16:39] check with tyche on where he's at on ITP [16:39] * kennymc0 waits for johnc4510 to get the whip and tell myrtlebeachbums1 to "get to work" [16:39] rofl [16:39] please [16:39] lol [16:40] Rules on on-call: 1. Never watch a movie. It draws calls like a bug zapper draws flies, 2. Work has a sensor to determine the moment you hit the deepest REM sleep so that they can call then. [16:40] myrtlebeachbums1: You can take the last ITP if you want [16:40] Will do. [16:42] it looks like i have to drive out to tempe to pick up my brother from asu real soon so i might not be able to finish the itb articles [16:42] i'm almost finished reading the second article so if someone could take the last one that would be very much appreciated [16:42] johnc4510: your summarization looks good. [16:42] thanks [16:42] you did most of it [16:42] lol [16:43] Hey, what can I say. I tried. [16:43] Second ITP is in. [16:43] myrtlebeachbums1: you can move down to ION after that last ITP link please [16:43] there are 3 of those [16:43] Okay. Going to paste in that ITP link as soon as I get logged in. [16:44] tyche: can you summarize the technical board meeting please [16:44] tyche: just copy and paste it in please [16:44] OK, I'll see what I can do with it. [16:45] you may have to clean it up some [16:45] Looks like I need to clean it up a lot. also condense some of it. [16:45] k [16:46] it doesn't matter how long it is i don't think [16:46] we're a little short on fodder this wk [16:46] :) [16:47] kk [16:48] I see we changed the article title format for ITB. [16:49] yeah [16:49] nick wants to try it out [16:49] it's supposed to be the same for ITP too right? [16:50] the should look the same [16:50] There they go raising the bar and causing us more work kennymc0 ;) [16:50] Yep. About now kennymc0 is READY for a bar. Hee hee [16:51] LOL [16:51] ok guys the ITB needs to be === === not ==== ==== please [16:51] so they look alike [16:51] :) [16:55] picky picky picky [16:55] yep [16:55] :) [16:55] cant exactly fix it since someone is in the editor right now [16:55] i'm out [16:56] second itb up [16:56] k [16:57] i think i can do the last itb real quick before i have to leave to pick up my brother [16:57] and i fixed it so that it was the way you wanted [16:57] k [16:57] thx [17:01] myrtlebeachbums1: let me know when you're out, please [17:01] I'm out. ION and the ITP that I did are done and ready for review. [17:01] hee hee [17:02] k [17:02] ...and I got another &(*(&*&$#Q call from work about a problem. GGGGrrrrrr..... [17:02] k [17:02] * myrtlebeachbums1 is not a happy camper. [17:02] tyche: i've got the server team summary done [17:02] just need to add it [17:04] OK, I'm out [17:04] k thx [17:05] i need to add my last ITB real quick so i can leave soon [17:06] k [17:06] i'll wait [17:06] johnc4510: How'd I do? [17:06] looking [17:07] i still have the upcoming events to do but if no one minds i can do that after i get back [17:07] should be about an hourish or so [17:07] tyche: that looks fine [17:07] thx [17:07] well gotta go bbiab [17:07] kennymc0: ok [17:09] Hmmm. I see a small correction (formatting) I need to address. [17:11] k [17:13] OK, that looks better [17:14] :) [17:15] Who's covering Upcoming Meetings this week? [17:15] kenny [17:15] he'll be back shortly i think [17:15] had to pick up his brother [17:15] Ah. OK. Splitting my time between things I missed that entry in the channel. Sorry. [17:16] np [17:22] tyche: did nick take out his credit this wk. i thought i added it at the start [17:23] I think someone else may have taken it out. I added yours and mine, but his wasn't in at that time. [17:24] ah ok [17:24] thx [17:26] johnc4510: would SoC be System-on-a-Chip? [17:27] what article? [17:27] Reference: Canonical joins ARM community [17:27] looking [17:28] yeah i guess it would, that's the only thing wikipedia gives as an explanation [17:28] use it [17:29] Yep. that's the same reference I saw. Hee hee [17:29] k [17:29] Great minds, and all that. To bad we don't have any. LOL [17:29] lol [17:31] You know? It's great having the Glossary page. It's faster, and more consistent when all I have to do is copy and paste. [17:32] cool [17:32] glad it helps you [17:32] :) [17:43] tyche: i'm out if you need to add any glossary terms [17:43] :) [17:44] Going in. [17:44] ok, i'm saving [17:44] out [17:44] OK. [17:45] And out. [17:46] ok, tyche the second bullet point on 5 things mark s. is odd [17:46] ? [17:47] once one has the individual has the inspiration? [17:47] Where? [17:47] ist in ITP [17:47] 2nd bullet poiiint [17:47] point [17:48] got it. My fault, I was following two trains of thought at the same time. I'll fix. [17:48] np [17:49] Fixed [17:49] thx [17:49] much better :) [17:50] * tyche is brain dead. Only the body is still moving [17:50] Hee hee [17:50] lol [17:50] np [17:52] "Igor, fetch the electrodes" [17:52] "Clear" >>>ZZZZZZZZAAAAAAAAPPP!!!<<< [17:52] hee hee [17:53] "Igor, where did you get this brain? Whose is it?" [17:53] careful there we still need you for some things lol [17:53] "Abby something. Abby Normal . . ." [17:54] Hee hee [17:55] :-> [17:58] hmm, they've got the ITB articles bullet pointed and they shouldn't be with headers [17:59] fixed [19:37] johnc4510-laptop: I haven't heard from kennymc0. Want me to put up the Upcoming Events? [19:37] yes please [19:37] kk. Going in. [19:37] i'm doing my final run thru now [19:40] Proofing them. [19:40] Saved and out. [19:40] i'm back [19:41] sorry it took so long [19:41] k thx [19:41] np [19:41] tyche took up _your_ slack [19:41] lol [19:41] jk [19:41] well he needed to do something for letting me do that one week of upcoming events all on my own [19:41] however he did say something about you owing him [19:41] 36 EVENTS!!!!! [19:43] at least i was able to finish all of the ITB stuff before i had to leave [19:43] And you think you're the only one who's had difficult weeks? [19:43] Yep. and that was good [19:43] :) [19:43] what was it that you wanted to point out to me tyche [19:43] it's been a good job by all thx [19:43] i see that you said something about a format thing that you wanted to talk to me about [19:44] or was that just a general comment? [19:44] johnc4510-laptop: I don't remember anything. [19:44] ah [19:44] yes [19:44] the ITB summaries had bullet points in addition to the new headers [19:45] they don't need both [19:45] so i took the bullet points out [19:45] :) [19:47] ah ok [19:47] so it's either one or the other [19:47] ok [19:47] wasnt sure so i just put both in [19:47] since this is a test run of the new formatting we'll see [19:47] np [19:48] i should have explained it better [20:19] beuno: hey bud [20:19] ok, issue #127 is published [20:19] thx to all the team for another great issue [20:19] and they're hard work [20:20] you folks rock [20:20] !! [20:28] new issue of the UWN #127 is out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuWeeklyNewsletter/Issue127 [21:45] hey guys [21:45] What's up? [21:46] great, I wanted to ask why we weren't also doing jaunty bug statistics? [21:46] It'll probably come. Just as Jaunty updates will probably come when it goes Beta [21:47] That's when we usually start that. [21:47] It makes more sense I think to focus on pre-release statistics than post-release statistics [21:47] Thats what Debian do [21:48] in fact, thats their criteria for release. When the RC bugs go down to 0 [21:48] Not really. Pre-release is all very well, but it's POST-release that lets people know what's been done. And if we waited for bugs to go to zero, we'd never get it out. [21:48] Plus, some of the bugs don't show up until AFTER the release. [21:49] Remember, we may USE Debian, but we are NOT Debian. Our ways are different. [21:49] ah so you think people hold back until they see what experience others are getting with the new release. Interesting. [21:50] yes, I remember reading Shuttleworth's rational for starting a new project rather than contributing to Debian [21:50] contributing directly I mean. I think Ubuntu contributes plenty... [21:51] I know some of that takes place. Just as I know that there are people already running the Alpha release. Ubuntu people cover a wide range of experience and ability. Oh, and BTW, Ubuntu DOES contribute to Debian. Remember, Mark was a Debian developer, and there are STILL major contacts with it. [21:52] In fact, there are Debian developers that are Ubuntu developers. [21:52] At least from what I've heard. [21:53] of course. Most of Ubuntu's strongest developers are also Debian Developers. If I'm not mistaken Mark took Debian's mailing list archives with him on a trip to the Artic to figure out whom to approach for a job developing Ubuntu [21:53] it's a nice story actually [21:53] last time I checked (I was doing a little research) - most Ubuntu developers lead "double" lives [21:54] Ubuntu developers by day, Debian developers by night. Or something to that effect anyway [21:55] The point is that there's a wide open superhighway, not just a path, between Ubuntu and Debian. [21:55] yep. ok I have to run off now, just wanted to say hello but I guess I missed most of the guys. [21:55] take care tyche [21:55] What Debian does is very good. What Ubuntu does is very good. The two are not in competition, but in cooperation. [21:56] It's superbowl sunday. Most of them are watching the pre-game, and then the game.