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Seeker`fucktard: how can we help you?00:23
fucktardthis isn't the nick I chose00:23
Seeker`change it using /nick <newname> then00:24
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marrythank you00:24
Seeker`why did you join this channel?00:25
Myrttibecause of the banforward I guess00:25
Seeker`Myrtti: I'll let you deal with this00:26
marryI didn't00:27
marryits auto00:27
Myrttimarry: can you join #ubuntu now?00:27
marryyes00:27
marryits done00:27
marrythank u for ur help00:27
Garyis that a stupid irc client default name (and ircname)00:28
Garybitchx?00:28
Myrttihuhhhh? really?00:28
Myrttibitchx? omglol00:28
Garywell, I don't know, but I think it is00:28
Seeker`use a version on marry?00:28
Garybit rude to version, i'll pm00:29
elkbuntuif it was, we'd see more of them00:30
Garybrother messing with his client00:31
Garyxchat00:31
elkbuntueducate him now, so we dont meet his brother00:31
Garyhehe, doing so00:31
elkbuntualso, i'm not entirely convinced he didn't know his nick was that beforehand, since he didnt get upset at being addressed as such00:32
GaryI think it was a mistake, might want to make a note of his ip and check if similar happens again00:33
Garyhe/she seems okay in pm00:34
elkbuntui mean, if i got addressed as fucktard, i'd not wait a minute then calmly state that it was not my nick00:36
GaryI might, be a bit of a shock, check, oh god, think, oops, etc00:36
elkbuntuchecking my irc settings would not be the first thing on my list of reactions though00:37
* nickrud has no problem imagining his brother messing with irc just like that (many moons ago, but still)00:38
Garymy bro would too00:38
elkbuntuso would mine, but it's not very high in the list of reasoning when being addressed as 'fucktard'00:39
nickrudmakes it hard for me to discount 'by brother/cousin/friend set me up'00:39
nickrudwell, if it highlighted :)00:40
elkbuntuthe reaction still does not add up for me00:41
Garythats why I suggest watching00:41
ubottuIn #ubuntu, linuxsoom said: !foo is bar02:38
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ubottu_VIM_ called the ops in #ubuntu (3rd time cantik has done that now...)04:35
zirodayerr #ubuntu is going down the tubes08:59
zirodayand l_ocke has showed up :(08:59
zirodaycan someone come oversee please :)08:59
Myrttimorning10:00
Garymoaning10:02
Myrttinoooo10:04
* Myrtti returns back to bed for the snuggles10:06
jussi01Myrtti: ping11:12
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SquideshiI am using the Freenode Java applet IRC portal and am unable to join the #ubuntu channel. I seem to have no problem joining any other channel--new or pre-existing, but when I type "/join #ubuntu" nothing happens--no error message or anything.19:29
SquideshiSomeone mentioned to me that the #ubuntu channel may be blocking the Freenode Java applet IRC portal; but if that were the case it would give me an error message, wouldn't it?19:38
jpdsnalioth: MootBot just fell off the internet.19:50
jpdsSquideshi: Java is blocked in #ubuntu.19:52
naliothjpds: let me look19:54
naliothjpds: network issues, the bot is running on the host machine19:55
Squideshijpds: Is there any other way to connect to the channel on a network that does not allow the local installation of IRC client software?19:57
jpdsnalioth: Oh, right. Looks like it's back now.19:58
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ikonia@mark 20:14
ubottu(mark [<channel>] <nick|hostmask> [<comment>]) -- Creates an entry in the Bantracker as if <nick|hostmask> was kicked from <channel> with the comment <comment>, if <comment> is given it will be uses as the comment on the Bantracker, <channel> is only needed when send in /msg20:14
ikonia@mark #ubuntu Endophage really bad attitude send rude pm's20:14
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ikoniaEndophage: do you wish to discuss your ban, or do you wish to sound off ?20:28
ikoniaI'm cutting to the chase after you sounding off in #ubuntu-uk20:29
Endophageyou seem very sensitive20:29
ikoniaEndophage: which is it ?20:30
Endophagewhich is what?20:31
ikoniado you wish to discuss your ban, or do you wish to sound off ?20:32
EndophageI would rather discuss how you answer questions....... I think you could use some work on differentiating useful answers and just answers20:32
ikoniayou do not have to follow my advice/comments if you chose not to, so there is nothing to discuss20:33
ikoniaif you don't want to discuss your ban I'd request you leave the channel 20:33
Endophagewell what's there to discuss about it20:33
ikoniano problem then, please leave the channel20:34
Endophagewell if you really want to discuss it, i called you an "idiot" in a private chat, not in a public channel20:35
ikoniayes, I know this20:35
ikoniabut your overall attitude towards people is not right, the idiot comment was just the trigger20:36
Endophagemy attitude towards people is fine, my attitude towards people who don't assume a modicum of respect for another intelligent person is possibly a little sharp20:36
ikoniainforming you that the xfi drivers are know to have serious issues - is not showing you respect ?20:37
ikoniatelling you that tomcat is not a standalone platform and needs to be used with a webserver (be it apache or the inbuilt one) is not showing no respect20:37
ikoniaif you don't like the advice/comments, you don't have to follow them20:37
ikoniaif you don't agree, thats fine too20:38
Endophageassuming I didn't know that when I was asking if anyone knew how to fix the distortion is not giving me any respect20:38
ikoniano -one assume that20:38
ikoniaI just informed you that the xfi drivers are famous for issues20:38
EndophageIf I didn't know about the drivers being dodgy i would have asked why they weren't working20:38
ikoniaif you knew that, great, if you don't then you have learnt something20:38
Endophageinstead I asked if anyone had experience fixing them20:38
ikoniaEndophage: all you have to say then is "I know the drivers have a bad rep, thanks"20:39
ikoniathats it20:39
ikoniaor even ignore it20:39
ikoniagiving you information is not "failing to show you respect" thats a poor stance to take20:39
Endophagegiving intelligent info is received well, the kind of info you have been giving me is the equivalent of in the #latex channel where any question just gets you referred to the docs via a bot20:41
Endophagei.e. telling me to look at the tomcat docs20:41
ikoniaEndophage: no it's not20:41
ikoniaEndophage: how to setup tomcat - reading the tomcat intro is a good start20:41
ikoniathere is nothing wrong with that20:41
ikoniaboth myself and mnpetok suggested that as a starting point20:41
Endophageexcept the tomcat docs don't say anything about setting it up with apache or as a standalone server20:41
Endophagethey pretty much just say install it and it will work20:42
ikoniaEndophage: really, I'm pretty sure they did, I'm sure we found something on there20:42
Endophageso I actually had to dredge through a lot of tutorials and in the end got it set up as a standalone server20:42
ikoniahttp://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/setup.html20:43
Endophageand even now it's buggy when it runs20:43
ikonialooks at the first line20:43
Endophage*reads the rest of it"20:43
ikoniaI'm not trying to agrue beign right, it's your stance of people just offering suggestions20:43
Endophagenope, nothing abotu apache20:43
ikonianothing in running.txt ?20:44
ikoniathe file it says to read ?20:44
Endophagehave you actually read that page of documentation20:44
ikonia(I've not got it so don't know)20:44
EndophageI mean the WHOLE page20:44
ikoniajust now yes20:44
ikoniano20:44
Endophagethis was where I was saying i'd installed it from synaptic20:44
ikoniaso ?20:44
Endophageso I don't get running.txt20:45
ikoniaI'm sure there are some valid overall points on that page, or the https://help.ubuntu.com wiki20:45
ikoniaEndophage: you can download it do get it20:45
ikoniato get it20:45
ikoniathat's not the point though, 20:45
ikoniathe point is you see sound advice as offensive comments and a slur on your ability20:46
ikoniaand you react accordingly bad20:46
EndophageI just prefer it if people answer my question rather than providing surplus information20:46
ikoniaI did answer your questions20:46
ikoniawith information that should help20:47
Endophageif i'm asking questiosn then I can guarantee I've been through quite a few tutorials and other docs20:47
Endophageummmm20:47
ikoniaso ?20:47
ikoniaI don't know this20:47
EndophageI would strongly disagree that you answered my questions20:47
ikoniaI don't know what you have / have not done20:47
ikoniajust say "no problem, tried that"20:47
Endophageyou provided surplus info, especially in the case of the xfi driver, you did not go any distance toward answering the question that was asked20:48
ikoniaunless you state in your question the full status of things20:48
ikoniaEndophage: this is going no-where20:48
ikoniaEndophage: I did not know if you knew/did not the xfi drivers are a known issue - if you took that as an offensive statment to say "the xfi drivers have known issues" then you need to get a grip on what causes you offensve20:48
ikoniaoffense20:48
ikoniasorry to be blunt, but if you can't take one line saying "there is a known problem" without sending snotty pm's - you cannot participate in #ubuntu 20:49
Endophageit didnt cause offense20:49
Endophageit caused frustration20:49
ikoniaI suggest you go away and think about if you can deal with it 20:49
Endophagei don't need to20:49
EndophageI have yet to actually get help out of any channel other than qt20:49
ikoniathen why did you join #ubuntu-uk complaining about your ban20:50
ikoniaif your not bothered - walk away 20:50
Endophagedid you not notice the :)20:50
ikonialets leave it here20:50
ikoniaI suggest you leave, and if you feel like you want to change your stance, please rejoin at any time20:50
ikoniaif not, good luck, and enjoy20:50
Endophagenice myspace page by the way20:50
ikoniathanks20:51
ikoniaanything else we can do for you ?20:51
EndophageI doubt it20:51
ikoniano problem then, if you can leave and go about the rest of your dealings20:51
ikonia!idle | Endophage 20:53
ubottuEndophage: Please keep in mind that this channel is for operator/abuse questions only; we ask you to part when you have no further business here in order to keep track of users with pending inquiries.20:53
SquideshiWhat is the difference between this channel and #ubuntu-irc. I visited the URL in the topic, but I still can't seem to figure it out.21:25
FlannelSquideshi: this channel is for 'official' channels, like #ubuntu and stuff, -irc is geared more towards LoCo channels and the like21:27
SquideshiFlannel: What are LoCo channels?21:28
SquideshiLoCo = local?21:38
jpdslocal community.21:39
SquideshiSomeone told me that the Freenode Java applet IRC portal is blocked by the #ubuntu channel. I have two questions: First, why is it blocked? Second, is there any other way to connect to the channel on a network that does not allow the installation of local software such as IRC clients?21:56
jpdsSquideshi: 1) It's to stop abuse from users. 2) You can connect from mibbit.com22:00
ikoniadestra33_: you've been forwarded here due to your ident of "fuck" can you please change that22:01
destra33_ikonia sure22:01
ikoniamuch better22:02
ikoniathanks22:02
ikonia@bansearch destra33_22:02
ubottuMatch: *!*fuck*@*!#ubuntu-ops by Automated-Addition in #ubuntu on Apr 18 2008 18:46:25 (ID: 4878)22:02
ubottuMatch: *!*fuck*@*!#ubuntu-ops by Automated-Addition in #ubuntu-offtopic on Jun 28 2008 07:30:23 (ID: 4973)22:02
ubottuMatch: *!*fuck*@*!#ubuntu-ops by Automated-Addition in #ubuntu on Apr 18 2008 18:46:25 (ID: 4844)22:02
ikoniadestra33: you should be free to join #ubuntu now22:03
destra33thank u =)22:03
Squideshijpds: That worked! Thank you for your assistance. I'm going to have to look further at this Mibbit thing if it helps prevent abuse.22:04
jpdsSquideshi: Generally, we can control the mibbit users but not the Java people. Good luck with your query.22:05
ikoniadestra33: thanks, your free to leave this channel 22:06
Seeker`hi22:32
ikoniahowdy Seeker` 22:33
Seeker`how be?22:35
ikoniafine fine22:35
ikoniatrying to work on some VERY basic electronics so not paying much attention at the moment22:35
Seeker`what sort of stuff?22:38
ikoniaoooh very tedious22:44
Seeker`?22:44
ikoniabasiclly converting something to use 2 led's 22:44
ikoniarather than one to show a status, but I actually can't figure out how to do it without external power22:44
ikoniain my head I know how to do it, but I'm arguing with someone that it won't work, (and it may not I'm terrible with electonics)22:44
Seeker`what is it you are converting?22:45
ikoniaa channel switching pedal for an amplifier22:46
ikoniaare you interested in a look / opinion ?22:46
Seeker`could try22:46
Seeker`#i'm not great though22:46
ikoniaI'm poor to be honest, but it's fun22:46
ikoniahttp://www.projecthugo.co.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=88522:46
ikoniathats the device22:47
ikoniared light comes on / off depending on switch22:47
ikoniaI've replaced the switch with a dpdt switch22:47
ikoniaand added a green LED so that green LED is channel 1, red LED is channel 222:47
ikoniathe original wiring looks like this22:47
ikoniahttp://www.projecthugo.co.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=89422:48
ikoniaI've found someone else who's done this who's wired it like this22:48
ikoniahttp://www.projecthugo.co.uk/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=89722:48
ikoniabut as you can see he's powering the LED's from an external source22:48
ikoniaI think (note think) that is I like the middle poles on the switch I can power either LED depending on the switch position22:49
ikoniahe's saying no22:49
Seeker`hmm22:50
ikonias/like the middle poles/link the middle poles22:51
Seeker`ikonia: #electronics?22:52
ikoniaSeeker`: thought about it22:52
ikoniaI may take it there tommorow22:53
ikoniait seems a bit basic for the stuff I've seen being discussed22:53
Seeker`i22:53
Seeker`ive seen more basic stuff than that in there22:53
ikoniareally, I may wander over there then22:53
ikoniahate wasting skilled peoples time with basic stuff22:53
Seeker`like "how do I make a circuit"22:54
Seeker`if they feel you are wasting their time, they probably wont answer22:54
ikoniaprobably true22:54
Myrttijussi01: pong23:00
Myrtti*sigh*23:02
Seeker`Myrtti: heya23:03
MyrttiI just had two slices of rye bread, shuffled through my mail and took two valerian pills with a pint of hot cocoa.23:05
Seeker`valerian?23:05
MyrttiI wish I'll drop out of conciousness before I realize I'm alone at home23:05
Seeker`:(23:05
Myrtti"Valerian, in pharmacology and phytotherapic medicine, is the name of a herb or dietary supplement prepared from roots of the plant, which, after maceration, trituration, dehydration processes, are conveniently packaged, usually into capsules, that may be used for certain effects including sedation and anxiolytic effect."23:06
nickrudsounds like an analog of a good spirit23:06
Seeker`Myrtti: sorry that you had to go home :(23:08
Seeker`Myrtti: did you see the snow here?23:09
Seeker`just east of cambridge there was a few inches this afternoon - made driving home fun23:09
Myrttiyeah, saw it coming down when we drove to Stansted in the afternoon23:09
Myrttihere the scenery looks like everything is covered in whipped cream23:10
Myrttiminimum of three or four inches of snow23:10
Seeker`nice23:10
Garywoo, snow!23:43
Seeker`Gary: it was a PITA driving along tthe A1423:48
GarySeeker`: ooow, I was on the A14 today23:49
Garynear sudbury23:49
Seeker`where near sudbury? the A14 pretty much circles the north west quarter of it23:50
Garyerm, the new road bit, where the speed cameras were23:50
Garypast ipswich, to bury23:51
Seeker`I was further west than that23:51
Seeker`slightly23:51
GaryI also drive along it to the M1 each week23:51
Myrttiok, I'm knackered now.23:58
Myrttiit is anyway midnight in UK23:59

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