[00:00] so it's not like gnu, which is pronounced ga-new? [00:01] Mood, I got it to work by syncing with my routers ntp server which syncs with the au ones. :D [00:01] whatev: negatory [00:01] Must just be a firewall issue, what ports does it use? [00:02] 123 [00:02] last question about this, is kubuntu therefore koo-boon-tu? [00:02] whatev: affirmative [00:02] thanks [00:02] yw [00:03] blankthemuffin: you have nmap? [00:04] Yeah, but I finally got it with an exception. Turns out the firewall doesn't like "Allowed with exceptions" so I switched it over and re-added the appropriate allowed ranges [00:04] ah [00:06] Thanks, I finally have the right time. :D [00:09] How do I reduce sensitivity on my touchpad? It's REALLY sensitive and twitchy [00:09] thomashartman1: anything in Xfce Settings Manager? [00:09] where's that? [00:10] Applications->Settings Manager (upper left) [00:10] looks like a step in the right direction anyway [00:11] i see something for mouse but not touchpad [00:11] thomashartman1: are you on a laptop? or do you have a wacom tablet? [00:11] laptop [00:11] mouse settings doesn't work? [00:12] motion settings... drag and drop... double click... maybe motion settings? [00:12] try it and see :-) [00:13] i set acceleration and threshhold to lowest possible settings. hard to see if this is immediate improvement. [00:13] generally this is an annoyance when my hand barely glances the touchpad and it like, drag-n-drops a whole paragraph of text between two different apps.... yeah, it's still happening. [00:14] drag and drop threshhold is now set to minimum (was already pretty low) [00:14] thomashartman1: looks like fixing it is somewhat more involved. you need some familiarity with terminal and editing text files [00:14] http://strabes.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/change-touchpad-sensitivity-in-ubuntu/ [00:15] that article was done in 2006... not sure if there were upgrades/updates for xubuntu 8.10 [00:15] also I just discovered that fn-f8 turns off touchpad. so I guess I could always do that when editing text. [00:15] not TOO inconvenient :) [00:15] works for me. [00:44] if computer suddelny starts to do raid device resync [00:44] (linux software raid) [00:45] and during that it block running apps from working on every few seconds) [00:45] Would you call it a bug? [01:27] anybody know how to open up a file firefox has recieved with a terminal program? As in 'open with this application'? [01:29] terminals don't open files [01:30] or do you mean the xdg-open command? [01:36] no I mean calling 'sh ' from firefox when a certain file type is clicked on [01:37] I'm just getting 'choose an application' dialog [01:37] sh is a shell, not a terminal... [01:37] durt: what kind of file did you download? [01:37] .torrent, I wish to start ctorrent [01:38] durt: so you need to find your torrent client and stick it in there [01:38] I wish to use ctorrent a cli client [01:39] durt: where is your torrent client? if you have it in "/home/durt/ctorrent/bin/ctorrent" stick that in the firefox open dialog [01:39] I have, it runs in background, I wish to open a terminal and have ctorrent run in it [01:40] ahh... well now that's different [01:40] sorry for not being clear [01:40] can't you write a sh file with "ctorrent -textonlyflag.whatever" and associate that in the firefox dialog? [01:41] ah! I'll try that [01:41] thx [01:41] durt: np [01:45] durt: xfce4-terminal -x ctorrent ... [01:46] TheSheep: that's smarter than writing a shell... [01:46] maybe even simply "xterm ctorrent ..." [01:47] i meant "xterm -e ctorrent ..." [01:52] where do you mean? In firefox? I can't get a line to type that in. (I always thought there was one. [01:54] durt: you're right, the firefox dialog doesn't have a place for arbitrary code... i guess the shell would be the best option [01:55] Strange thing is I remember something like 'choose a custom command' from before with a text entry box. [01:57] now the next question is what variable name does firefox pass? Or do I not need to worry about that? [01:58] durt: variable name firefox pass? not sure what you mean by that [01:59] durt: you should have all the arguments passed to xterm within the sh script [02:01] normally with an associated app firefox would have to call something like 'transmission &a' or $a or something representing the file location which would be something like /tmp/tfile.torrent [02:01] durt: have you tried it? [02:02] which? [02:02] durt: without passing the torrent file to xterm [02:02] durt: simply having firefox opening the torrent file should do the trick, no? [02:03] still working on it... gotta go through all of ctorrents switches first [02:04] start of a shell script is !sh, no? [02:48] durt: #!/bin/bash [02:49] Hi, does any1 know a alternative to widget layer, to call and send away screenlets , that doesnt require compiz? [02:49] Stroganoff: Thx, got past that, need to know what the command line variables are called, I'm thinking $1,$2,etc. [02:49] screenlets? [02:50] durt: what language? [02:50] bash [02:50] durt: yeah, $1 $2 and friends [02:50] thx [02:51] http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/ [02:56] hi all, I have a problem setting up keyboard setups. seems there's no "keyboard shortcuts" at all in settings. anyone have any ideas? [02:58] ZombieWill: keyboard shortcuts are located in: xfce4-settings manager > keyboard > shortcuts, create a new profile and add the ones u need. [03:04] I am in keyboard & mouse - system settings and I receive this error. "Failed to contact KDE global Shortcuts daemon: No such object path /KdedGlobalAccel Error: org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.UnknownObject" [03:06] I have set the keyboard shortcut though using your method, kora. Thanks! [03:07] wait so it's solved? [03:08] yes, it is solved. [03:08] oh cool. [03:09] hey i incorrectly installed obmenu and wondring how to uninstall it completely [03:09] sudo apt-get remove obmenu [03:09] i guess [03:10] thanks [03:11] it says i removed it allready and i did apt-get aus=toremove and i think its fixed ty [03:14] anybody else running xubuntu with flux box on acer one? [03:21] obmenu? obama has a menu? that guy is everywhere these days. [03:21] in before political flame war [03:21] lol [03:21] it stands for openboxmenu [03:21] :P [03:21] domenic: ah, thx [03:30] lol i ruined your fun :P [03:30] can somebody tell me how to shutdown my computer with a command [03:31] domenic: sudo halt -p [03:31] okay can i make a script that has a dialog [03:31] like [03:31] with zenity [03:32] eg ive got [03:32] if zenity --question --title "Really Logout?" --text "Really Logout, This will force close on any open programs!"; then [03:32] kill -TERM $(xprop -root _BLACKBOX_PID | awk '{print $3}') [03:32] fi [03:32] for logout [03:41] hey [03:51] you probably can yeah [04:56] So trying xubuntu 9.04, I noticed something -really- annoying happened after a reset upgrade to stay with the alpha series. Every time I click a menu in xubuntu the bloody thing makes a beep or a bop and I can't find -anyplace- to disable that. I can't even find a name to search for; something like xubuntu OR xfce sound theme/sound scheme/audio theme etc... [05:00] How do I disable menu sounds in xubuntu 9.04 ; I've run out of things to search google for as well. [05:05] CRAP package ubuntu-sounds has the sound files, but everything else crashes without sound files there... NOT RIGHT. [05:06] WhyTheSound: is 9.04 beta? [05:07] Mood: I don't know what it was, but my laptop wasn't quite working right with 8.10 (the laptop was from early 2008) so I thought I'd try a version of ubuntu with support for newer kernels. [05:14] WhyTheSound: nothing under Settings Manager? [05:15] Mood: I can't even get in to that now. [05:15] The menu crashed when I tried removing the package [05:16] I can open a command line program though, do you mean xfce-setting-show ? [05:16] Aww... was it a custom install? [05:16] xubuntu 8.10 upgraded to 9.04 [05:17] WhyTheSound: yup, xfce-setting-show [05:17] i don't think anything under 8.10 allows you to control menu click sounds [05:17] Mood: it wasn't in the menu anymore after the last upgrade AND it doesn't have a sound theme anyway. [05:17] Mood: 9.04 not 8.10 any longer [05:18] Where does 8.10 let you set that? [05:18] WhyTheSound: yup, I was seeing if there was anything similar in 8.10 so I can help [05:18] The default used to be NO sounds, which I was happy with. [05:18] yeah i'm not sure if your 9.04 behavior is intended. is it a computer beep coming from the soundcard? or through your speakers? [05:19] if it's coming from your soundcard, it could be a hardware/driver issue [05:19] No, it's FX sounds [05:19] Not the 'error beep' but actual sound files [05:19] one f*ed up way would be to locate the sound file and maybe rename it/delete it [05:19] You know that BS that windows has as an option ... [05:19] yeah [05:20] Mood: Uninstalling ubuntu-sounds DOES delete it, and the menu then CRASHES [05:20] it's a useless 'feature' [05:20] Exactly, it slows things down and pisses you off [05:20] MS: "Oh, that? It's not a bug! It's a feature!" [05:21] another really f*ed up way would be to make a null mp3 file with the same name [05:23] Mood: not an optimal solution [05:23] btw, what was wrong w/ 8.10 on your laptop? just all f*ed up generally? [05:24] Mood: The suspend/resume stuff [05:24] I had to press enter like 10 times to get it to do that... [05:24] Which is better than 9.04 so far; it suspends OK, but fails to resume... possibly nv driver or X's fault. [05:25] it wasn't just taking a while to execute all the way? [05:25] Mood: No, I could leave it sitting for 30 min and it'd do nothing, press enter at any point and it moves faster [05:26] peculiar [05:33] WhyTheSound: you can always opt for a different distro :-p [05:33] i've had very good success with xubuntu. so far no complaints from me [05:36] hi .. my xubuntu install refuses to show me the mounted drives [05:36] in the places menu [05:36] Might be a hal issue... but I just go to a console and type 'mount' when I want that info... [05:36] WhyTheSound: yeah .. thats not the problem .. [05:37] WhyTheSound: but neither thunar shows it in the sidebar [05:37] so I have to navigate to the directory where it is mounted each time [05:37] any idea how I can use different network interfaces for certain programs? [05:38] I have two ethernet ports but when I use VPN it disables my internet because of a security policy.. am I able to use my other port for internet? [05:39] wrong channel sorry [05:39] GreedyB: the only time I've ever seen anything like that that I can recall would be servers where you instruct it to bind to a specific interface. Usually your programs will follow whatever the default gateway is. [05:40] I'm sure my company wouldnt like it [05:40] but I cant stand that it kills my browsing [05:40] bbs, rebooting (my laptop, which is SSHed in to what I irc from) [05:41] Sorry, I've only got some vague ideas on how I'd approach it. [05:41] no problem man [05:41] Its kind of a random thing to ask :) [06:23] excellent comparisons of light, featherweight x managers [06:23] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1016873 [06:42] Howdy all, painful question coming up. I have a Broadmcom 4306 Wireless card. I have run the /usr/share/b43-fwcutter/install-b43xx_firmware.sh which appears to have worked. However on boot-up in dmesg there is a message saying "ADDRCONF(NETDEF_UP): wlan0: link not ready" and I can't see any wireless networks [06:43] I have googled about for this string but all I get are high-headed mailing list posts to do with another more complicated issue [06:43] RurouniJones: open a console/terminal, sudo bash; lsmod (see if you can find the module for it, I think it might be bc43/whatever), rmmod that module, modprobe that module. See if that fixes your problem. [06:46] Also... RurouniJones I thought that linux-restricted-modules-whatever (usually generic) included the firmware required for the bc43xx wifi stuff [06:46] Roight. [06:47] rmmod / modprobe didn't seem to do it [06:50] http://www.pastie.org/376496 is the dmesg output upon rmmod and modprobe. [06:51] Ah, looks like there is a specific bcm support channel, I shall ask ther [07:39] RurouniJones: it looks like everything is working, but something is trying to assign the interface an address without it being brought in to an enabled state. Do you happen to have the 'radio' disabled? [07:52] RurouniJones: I should note, you may have to have the module probed in order to turn on/off the radio with a hotkey. [08:22] WhyTheSound: I do have a radio hotkey but it doesn't work, as in it doesn't appear to kill/unkill the radio. The "radio active" light stays on. However when I modprobe I see the radio light flick off and on again [08:24] Clarification, the light goes off when I rmmod and then comes on again when I modprobe [08:34] RurouniJones: My radio indicator light won't turn on/off in linux; HOWEVER the hotkey still actually enables/disables the hardware. It seems the windows driver just does something extra to turn the light on/off. [08:35] Incidently, for me, it seems that by the time linux has decent native drivers for built in laptop radios, that laptop is dead for one reason or another. [08:35] I looked at the B43 FAQ, looks like you need to recopmile the kernel to enable the kardware key [08:36] I also tried rmmod / morprobe with the key pressed each way, no dice [08:38] I will see what the bcm peeps say when they wake up, thanks for the help, off to do stuff :/ [08:44] hi [08:45] i've just downloaded and installed openoffice.org 3...before that i had version 2.4 ... now, when also v 3 is installed, i don't know where is it and from where i can enter new programs.... in menu are only 2.4 version programs [08:48] so, any idea where i could find them? [08:54] hello [08:54] hello? [08:56] Don't say that, say your problem. [08:59] hello [09:00] lol [09:00] well, I'm trying to figure out how to use approx [09:01] not exactly Xubuntu specific; just not sure how to set it up; the docs are fuzzy on details [09:01] anyone here use approx, or the other programs like it? [09:02] how can one completely remove the totem movie player? [09:05] synaptic won't do it? [09:06] i don't know how to do it on synaptic... [09:07] I would open synaptic, click the search button, type "totem", then scroll through looking for all totem-related results that have a green square... [09:08] and then untag the green ones? [09:08] yea, set them to "complete remove" or "remove" [09:08] then apply [09:12] thank you! [09:32] I have no idea what approx is. [09:32] appros is different, it just string searches manual pages === wormsxulla_ is now known as wormsxulla [11:35] hello [11:36] need some help with gui instalation of xfce [11:36] so? [11:37] im gonna send the log [11:37] so u can see whats happening [11:38] damn it takes so long to register stuff in xfce-look.org T.T [11:38] O.o how could you need help installing xfce, it's part of xubuntu. [11:39] i dont use xubuntu [11:39] im running ubuntu 8.10 [11:39] whith gnome [11:40] install xubuntu-desktop from synaptics package manager [11:40] then go back to login screen, click "session", choose xfce, and login [11:40] SiDi: does xubuntu-desktop conflict with ubuntu-desktop? [11:41] no [11:41] i got both installed here [11:41] but i'm only using xubuntu <3 [11:41] Guess not [11:41] Yeah, I just tried it my self [11:42] amonxz: you might note the other possible sessions to try [11:42] noo [11:42] i dont need a desktop [11:42] i need a gui [11:42] i mean i dont want xubuntu desktop i want xfce real [11:42] whythesound im gonna show you the log error [11:42] amonxz: xubuntu-desktop will pull in everything you need to have to use xfce with ubuntu. [11:43] but still gnome [11:43] and i dont want an emuler [11:43] ... it's not an emulator [11:43] amonxz: you'll have the whole xubuntu thing installed, but unless you CHOOSE to boot on xfce you'll boot on gnome as usual [11:43] It's a different window-manager, and possibly display program. [11:44] amonxz: right, what SiDi said; you'll then have ubuntu AND xubuntu; changing your session setting at the login screen will determine which version of your desktop you load on login. [11:44] Does anyone have the *** GPG key for the XFCE4.6 launchpad PPA ? I don't have port 11173 opened and i cant get the PGP key, thus cant update to XFCE 4.6 and this sucks a lot T_T [11:44] !purexfce | amonxz [11:44] amonxz: If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [11:46] but um using nome [11:46] gnome [11:46] i mean how i can get backto something i wasnt [11:46] o.O [11:46] im using ubuntu and im trying to install xfce [11:47] amonxz: Then just make sure your package manager has both ubuntu-desktop AND xubuntu-desktop installed. THEN logout. On the login screen change your setting to the choice that reflects the desktop you want to use. Login again. It's now that desktop. [11:47] do it [11:47] amonxz: What I just explained is HOW you do that. [11:47] It's like the 4th time it's said, only a little differently each time. [11:47] oh man... [11:48] u dont understand me let me finish my posting and youll se [11:48] http://pastebin.com/m19a77b3d [11:48] The session setting that is... I can't logout and look at it without killike like 70 firefox tabs [11:49] amonxy: why are you trying to compile xfce? [11:50] cuz i want to use it [11:50] ¬¬ [11:50] "sudo apt-get install xfce" is SLIGHTLY more simple than manual compiling... T.T [11:50] http://www.ubuntu.org.uy/main/?q=node/262 [11:51] noo [11:51] it doesnt work [11:51] bleh, yes it works [11:51] norman@norman-desktop:~$ sudo apt-get install xfce [11:51] [sudo] password for norman: [11:51] Leyendo lista de paquetes... Hecho [11:51] Creando árbol de dependencias [11:51] Leyendo la información de estado... Hecho [11:51] E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete xfce [11:51] not for me [11:51] xfce4 [11:51] sorry ;P [11:51] lets see [11:51] ok [11:52] drama [11:52] sais is installed [11:52] xfce4 installs whole xfce with the very needed apps. Xubuntu-desktop also installs a few lightweight apps and artwork that'll fit good with xfce, but it will NOT override your gnome session or settings. [11:53] well ill be back gonna try to log in [11:53] amonxz: can you please mail ubuntulog Uruguay and tell them that users should install xubuntu-desktop or xfce4 instead of manually compiling, please ? [11:53] or not... [11:53] You're welcome, amonxz... T.T'' [11:54] 'amonxz : well i'll be back' <- me didn't notice this, w/e :P [11:54] Who wanted that key... [11:54] SiDi: what's the link to whatever page [11:55] Meh wants the GPG key, sec [11:55] dindnt work [11:55] ill have to download xubuntu and install it [11:56] amonxz: there is -no- way you could have installed xfce4 that quickly; at least not everything... I think. [11:56] yeah i think the same [11:56] whatev i think i found it :X [11:56] ill download xubuntu [11:56] Yeah, there should be an HTTP key file you can dl and install that way. [11:56] amonxz: please run "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop" and post the console output [11:56] amonxz: Can you do this for me? [11:56] you DONT have to download the xubuntu ISO [11:57] sudo aptitude [11:57] WhyTheSound: yeh i found it in the repo, actually i dont need to connect tothis damn keyserver [11:57] ok ill do it [11:57] Inside of that aptitude press / it'll open a search box [11:57] type in 'xubuntu-desktop' [11:57] press enter (btw, no '' around it) [11:58] that will take you to the package xubuntu-desktop, press + [11:58] press g [11:58] amonxz, It isn't as easy that you have got it installed, and fail to select it in gdm? [11:58] gusnan: ... it really could be. it's what we've said all along. [11:58] :) [11:59] amonxz: doing the above will save everyone a lot of time and bandwidth. [11:59] i did it [12:00] so now what [12:00] Damn importing key won't work :( [12:01] whythesound so enter? [12:02] amonxz: logout. when you are in the login screen, click on "options" in the bottom left of the screen. then select "select session" and choose xfce. [12:02] i did it [12:02] but is gnome looking like xfce [12:03] amonxz: enter taking you to xubuntu-desktop jumps to that point in the list. + on it sets it to 'install' (it'll have an i on the left) 'g' tells it to execute the selected actions, and it'll have it get and install the packages you wanted. [12:03] When that's done, you just logout, and then change the session before logging in to the xfce desktop. [12:04] ok [12:04] What exactly do you mean by 'xfce' then? It should look and feel different than the usual gnome stuff. [12:04] Not much, but a little. [12:04] but would it be xfce or gnome looking like xfce? [12:04] I don't know what the later looks like. [12:05] Ok, you can tell it's actually XFCE if you open the menu and see 'About XFCE' as an entry. [12:05] yeah [12:06] If you see it, then you're already in XFCE [12:06] If it doesn't look like you want, try changing the settings and dragging stuff around until you like it or get bored. [12:06] i see it [12:07] Then yes, that is 'XFCE' [12:07] but i can also see on sistem monitor that um using gnome [12:07] hi, in my Add/Remove applications, everything is blank (it has worked fine in the past) [12:08] 4847 ? S 0:00 /usr/bin/gnome-keyring-daemon --daemonize --login [12:08] 4989 ? Ss 0:00 gnome-power-manager [12:08] That's all I see when I ps -axf | grep gnome [12:08] maybe you should ps -axf | less and search it for gnome? You might still be logged in to your gnome desktop as well. [12:09] amonxz: screenshot plz [12:09] amonxz: system monitor lies, don't worry. [12:09] ok [12:09] sidi xD [12:09] :D [12:09] mine too says i'm under gnome ... [12:10] uploading screenhot [12:10] screenshot* [12:11] SiDi: how exactly do you see that? [12:11] http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pantallazouq0.png [12:11] Open gnome-system-monitor [12:12] on first tab it displays the version, it says i use gnome 2.24 here [12:12] hey btw http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Brit+Extra+Buttons?content=98630 what do you think of this xfwm ? :P [12:12] amonxz: under processes scroll way down, see all the xfce4 stuff? [12:12] no [12:13] he is under xfce :) [12:14] now you can download the xfwm theme above, with the gtk theme that goes with it, and it'll be sexy XD [12:14] well if i am under xfce im gonna try to install a theme [12:15] hehe it's not the same as under gnome :P you need to manually put the themes in .themes T.T' [12:15] xD [12:16] really? [12:17] yeh. [12:17] or i'm a total noob and didn't notice something XD [12:17] jj [12:17] haha [12:18] well after all i guess im on xfce [12:18] xD [12:18] ill see how to theme now [12:20] http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=98638 ! [12:20] thanks :) [12:21] That's just some icons i just released [12:21] i dont have awn installed yet [12:21] xD [12:21] http://xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Elegant+Brit+Extra+Buttons?content=98630 this is a theme for the Window manager, and there's a link to a very popular GTK theme (xfce uses gtk themes just like gnome, but xfwm themes instead of metacity for the windows) [12:22] Me neither [12:22] i use these with a panel on the left, and i make launchers ;) [12:22] i see :) [12:22] http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php/Dusty+mod?content=97752 see this one too ;P [12:22] An xfwm for Dust [12:22] Axiom is great too [12:23] ill try one [12:24] If you use Dusty, take the Dust Burnt gtk theme with it, it pawns [12:25] i dont even know how to change a wallpaper here xD [12:26] hi, in my Add/Remove applications, everything is blank (it has worked fine in the past) [12:26] what is the default shutdown command? [12:27] i'm leaving, gonna die of hunger either [12:27] see you later peeps [12:27] kk [12:28] what is the command to shutdown? [12:28] @domenic try shutdown now [12:28] poweroff now * [12:28] or shutdown -f [12:28] I tend to use shutdown -hP now [12:28] hP? [12:28] I can't even remember [12:28] or just -h [12:28] lol [12:28] dont try it :P [12:29] ill try shutdown -f [12:29] hang on [12:29] h implies halt, P means poweroff according to shutdown --help [12:29] morning some. hello all. i am looking for a channel list [12:29] yeah i know [12:30] navarro, /list ? [12:30] im trying to make a script that displays a nice window with zenity but the script is not working [12:30]