[00:03] <rwreed> booted into recover mode. configuring network interfaces failed. what should I do?
[00:15] <underdog_> could someone tell me how i get the restricted drivers dialog back so i can change one of the drivers?
[00:21] <joshuajtl> sorry, i missed a message
[00:21] <joshuajtl> wow windows 7 gave me 30 mins battery life, kubuntu is giving me 1hr
[00:25] <joshuajtl> hmm anyone know if konversation can check spelling?
[00:40]  * quassel181 
[00:43] <malebola_> hola
[00:43] <malebola_> alguien es experto en auditorias wireless pero con wpa o wpa2 encryption
[00:43] <malv> did the kubuntu team patch a lot of the bugs of 4.1?
[00:43] <malv> i am considering reinstalling ubuntu and going back to the 4.1 version
[00:44] <malebola_> o sorry i thought than that is a spanish channel, anywway
[00:44] <malebola_> is here anyone a geek in auditories in wireless hack
[00:44] <malebola_> more specific in wpa encryption
[00:47] <david_> how do i get compiz to work on kubuntu
[00:47] <maco> how do i mark a message as junk in kmail in kde4.2?
[00:48] <n_> hi, i want to rum my soundoutput on a different plug what can i do?
[00:50] <malv> does kubuntu have that program which will create a usb livecd?
[00:51] <maco> unetbootin? you can grab it from the repos, i think
[00:51] <cbwcjw> malv: The default kubuntu CD includes a live client
[00:51] <cbwcjw> Touchdown AZ :)
[00:52] <malv> it's called unetbootin?
[00:52] <cbwcjw> malv: Oh. I missed the USB part.
[00:52] <cbwcjw> !usb
[00:52] <maco> cbwcjw: AZ? is that where the cardinals are from?
[00:52] <cbwcjw> maco: Yea.
[00:54] <maco> cbwcjw: ok then i had them confused with the baseball Cardinals
[00:54] <maco> ok no answer on kmail
[00:55] <shaffy> i need some help please:  i deactivated the restricted driver for my Nvidia card and now all my resolutions/video settings are messed -- can't even log into my KDE env -- althought i do see the mouse.  i've tried to reconfigure my xorg.conf (via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg), but i still can't get generic video settings to even be able to active the nvidia driver again.  any help anyone?
[00:56] <shaffy> btw, using latest kde
[00:57] <ninix> hi
[00:59] <ninix> why cannot I install qt4-assistant package ? Package qt4-assistant is not available, but is referred to by another package
[00:59] <david_> how can i get simple ccsm on kububtu?
[01:00] <ninix> there are a few other packages that I have this problem also
[01:02] <shaffy> i need some help please:  i deactivated the restricted driver for my Nvidia card and now all my resolutions/video settings are messed -- can't even log into my KDE env -- althought i do see the mouse.  i've tried to reconfigure my xorg.conf (via dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg), but i still can't get generic video settings to even be able to activate the nvidia driver again.  i'm using kde4.2  any help anyone?
[01:22] <joshuajtl> hey anyone kknow if there is a wine irc channel?
[01:23] <kaddi> yes there is :)
[01:23] <joshuajtl> op found it #winehq
[01:23] <kaddi> !wine
[01:23] <joshuajtl> thanks :)
[01:24] <n_> is there a way to change the output plug for outgoing sound?
[01:50] <helivander__> ki
[02:01] <maco> does kde's applications menu depend on what's set to visible in my gnome menu?
[02:05] <judgen> maco: it depends on what .desktop files you have
[02:13] <EtFb> I learned to use a mouse on Windows 3.1 (it's OK; I got better) so I usually close windows by double-clicking the window icon instead of clicking the [X].  Now in KDE 4.2 I need to triple-click, not double-click.  Is there a way to configure that?
[02:30] <keres> is it possible to install windows in order to dual boot when you already have a linux distro installed?
[02:30] <BattleStarJesus> I am trying to install Quanta but I keep getting the message that dependencies are not going to be installed. What should I do?
[02:31] <genii> keres: The usual method is Windows first, then Linux
[02:31] <Dr_willis_> Or learn how to 'recover' grub  if you do it in reverse order
[02:31] <keres> genii: yeah... i installed linux first though,
[02:31] <keres> Dr_willis_: ?
[02:32] <Dr_willis_> Or if you have 2 seperate hard drives..  it can be done in other ways
[02:32]  * genii hands Dr_willis_ a coffee
[02:32] <keres> ill prolly do a seperate HDD
[02:32] <Dr_willis_> GRUB is worth learning all about
[02:32] <judgen> Hmm i have a problem... my sound volumes are WAY to low. and even with all settings maxed out i can hardly hear it.
[02:33] <Dr_willis_> On my machinew..  i install winows to hd #1.. then unplug it.. Install Linux to HD #2. . then plug them both back in. :) then use the bios menus to tell the pc what one to boot.
[02:33] <Dr_willis_> No grub entry for windows..  Unless I add it.
[02:33] <Dr_willis_> I just have to rember what key to hit to get to the bios boot menu.
[02:37] <genii> Dr_willis_: I like also the chainloading method
[02:37] <BattleStarJesus> How do I deal with this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdewebdev/+bug/288842
[02:41] <khalidmian> can anyone assist me on java plugin installation for mozilla firefox under kubuntu
[02:43] <maco> how do i mark an email as junk in kmail?
[02:45] <Dr_willis_> khalidmian:  installing 'kubuntu-restricted-extras' dosent get java for you?
[02:48] <khalidmian> Dr_willis_: when trying to access this link http://www.auditmypc.com/anonymous-surfing.asp via firefox i get message saying additional plugins are required
[02:49] <khalidmian> Dr_willis_: when i lick install missing plugins it asks me to intall java runtime
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> give that link again.. :) testing on the linux box.
[02:50] <khalidmian> http://www.auditmypc.com/anonymous-surfing.asp
[02:51] <Dr_willis_> got a Windows7 box here.. and linux box behind me. :) lets compare
[02:52] <Dr_willis_> seems to be workin here for me just fine. on both machines
[02:52] <Dr_willis_>  java -version
[02:52] <Dr_willis_> java version "1.6.0_10"
[02:52] <Dr_willis_> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-b33)
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> See what java ya got going  - with that command.
[02:53] <khalidmian> Dr_willis_: not for moi unfortunately i need to install java plugins
[02:53] <maco> how do i mark an email as junk in kmail?
[02:53] <khalidmian> Dr_willis_: bash: java-version: command not found
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> theres a space in there.
[02:54] <Dr_willis_>  COMMAND   -version
[02:54] <solid_liquid> did anyone else have the football broadcast interrupted right after that last touchdown?
[02:54] <Dillizar> how can install flash in usr/lib/opera and not in .mozilla
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> works for most  .. or  its  --version with 2 dashes
[02:54] <Dr_willis_> Dillizar:  i just installed flash normally and oprea saw and used it..
[02:54] <solid_liquid> Dillizar: run the isntaller as root
[02:55] <Dillizar> Dr_Willis, nope doesnt i am trying with opera for 4 months and nothing
[02:55] <Dillizar> solid_liquid,  how can i do that
[02:55] <khalidmian> Dr_willis_:
[02:55] <khalidmian> java version "1.6.0_0"
[02:55] <khalidmian> IcedTea6 1.3.1 (6b12-0ubuntu6.1) Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_0-b12)
[02:55] <Dr_willis_> Dillizar:  its worning here  - and i dident do anything special at all..  but i am also using firefox
[02:55] <khalidmian> OpenJDK Server VM (build 1.6.0_0-b12, mixed mode)
[02:55] <Dr_willis_> khalidmian:  you may want to switch to the sun java..  or check the package manager for any other java packages.
[02:55] <Dr_willis_> !java
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> I really dont see what java is doing on that web site at all..
[02:56] <Dr_willis_> work time for me.. good luck . bye all
[02:57] <bruce> I have OpenJDK Java 6 Runtime and the web site worked okay for me
[02:57] <Dr_willis_> aha - Java let the little map have a little 'zoom' box...
[02:57] <Dr_willis_> wow.. so special :)
[02:57] <Dr_willis_> its poiting to the wrong city for me.
[02:57] <Dr_willis_> Byeee
[02:57] <khalidmian> Dr_willis_:
[02:57] <khalidmian> java version "1.6.0_10"
[02:57] <khalidmian> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.6.0_10-b33)
[02:57] <khalidmian> Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 11.0-b15, mixed mode)
[02:59] <khalidmian> Dr_willis_: any help?
[02:59] <bruce> Dr. willis left
[03:02] <khalidmian> i think ill have to redo kubuntu installation yet again
[03:05] <bruce> I am using the IcedTea Web Browser Plugin if that helps.  On Firefox use Tools and Add-ons to see what you have installed and to install what you need
[03:06] <bruce> You shouldn't have to redo the Kubuntu install to fix this.
[03:12] <khalidmian> ok so now i dnt have java at all can any one tell me how to install java?
[03:13] <maco> khalidmian: i use openjdk-6-jre
[03:14] <maco> and icedtea6-plugin for the web browser plugin for java
[03:26] <DarkAce> hey i wanted to know the procedure of updating only the basic kde to 4.2
[03:26] <DarkAce> can anyone pls help me
[03:27] <DarkAce> my kubuntu version is Intrepid
[03:29] <DarkAce> help anybody please
[03:29] <genii> DarkAce: See the /topic
[03:31] <EtFb> !kde4.2
[03:31] <EtFb> Can someone teach ubottu to respond to that with a quick summary, plus the link to http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2?  Not every IRC reader displays the topic in an easily-accessed way.
[03:32] <DarkAce> thank you
[03:32] <EtFb> Summary would be something like : "KDE 4.2 is available, but experimental.  You need to add kubuntu-experimental to your apt sources, and then update.  See http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 for the details."
[03:52] <dewman> well....anything good happining here?
[04:19] <judaz> hey..
[04:19] <siva> hi all
[04:19] <judaz> how can i make dragon player play .srt subtitules
[04:19] <judaz> ?
[04:30] <m3mar8> Hi
[04:44] <Gun_Smoke> 9.04 Alpha's image moved?  http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-2/ is dead
[04:49] <quassel181> We've had Alpha 3 since.
[04:49] <Gun_Smoke> Link?
[04:50] <quassel181> Not suprisingly, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-3/
[04:50] <quassel181> But that was also pre-4.2 release.
[04:50] <Gun_Smoke> what a gimme
[04:50] <quassel181> We'll have another Alpha next week which will have 4.2.0
[04:51] <Gun_Smoke> ah..
[04:53] <quassel181> You could also try the daily http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/current/
[04:53] <quassel181> These don't get a huge amount of testing though.
[04:54] <Gun_Smoke> right.. I have 4.2 running currently from Debian experimental on top of sid
[04:54] <quassel181> If you're mostly interested in 4.2, you can also install 8.10 and then install 4.2 from the kubuntu-experimental PPA.
[04:55] <Gun_Smoke> right... that'd be pretty much what I have going on now..
[04:55] <quassel181> BTW, I was just talking to you in #amarok (ScottK).  This is just a test ID as I'm testing our new default IRC client.
[04:56] <Gun_Smoke> ah.. very nice..
[04:56] <quassel181> It's new on the CD as of yesterday.
[04:57] <Gun_Smoke> what's the new default?
[04:58] <quassel181> Quassel.
[04:58] <genii> With monolithic client, or some hosted core?
[04:59] <quassel181> The monolithic will be the default.
[04:59] <quassel181> The split client/core are also available.
[04:59] <genii> OK
[05:00] <genii> I've actually been on quassel now for a few months here
[05:00] <quassel181> Using the Kubuntu packages or roll your own?
[05:00] <genii> quassel181: Roll yer own from git.
[05:01] <quassel181> Are you on Intrepid?
[05:01] <genii> quassel181: No, Hardy
[05:01] <genii> quassel181: I'm currently on 0.3.1
[05:01] <quassel181> Ah.  I keep an Intrepid version in my PPA.
[05:01] <quassel181> ... of the git snapshot we have in Jaunty.
[05:02] <genii> quassel181: I had to get the Intrepid QT versions
[05:02] <quassel181> It's got the KDE integration enabled no, so you probably don't want that on Hardy anyway.
[05:02] <quassel181> enabled no/now.
[05:05] <genii> Yes, true
[05:05] <genii> On my desktop box, perhaps. It runs 8.10 64bit, kde 4.1 (to 4.2 soon)
[05:06] <quassel181> https://launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive/ppa if you want it.
[05:07] <quassel181> That also has a version of xorg-xserver that doesn't have a compiz optimization that makes kwin MUCH happier.
[05:18] <Level_5> anyone here?
[05:18] <Level_5> need some wireless help
[05:20] <Level_5> hello..can someone here help me out with a broadcom wireless card?
[05:22] <mefisto__> what is the number in Xorg log files? eg Xorg.0.log Xorg.1.log etc
[05:29] <thedark> hello everyone
[05:29] <thedark> I just upgraded to Kubuntu 8.10 and now Kubuntu won't boot!
[05:30] <thedark> I had to log in with a PUppy Linux livecd
[05:30] <thedark> the mouse icon shows up and works, as does a background image, but that is it
[05:30] <thedark> no log in screen, desktop icons etc.
[05:31] <thedark> does anyone have any ideas? I am exiled from my own computer!
[05:32] <thedark> :(
[05:34] <joshuajtl> hey, can anyone tell me how to change active window shadows? mine are blue!
[05:35] <quassel181> thedark: When you boot, where the kernel options are there's a choice to boot into (IIRC) recovery or repair mode.  Do that and then pick the option to fix X and then boot normally.  That may help and won't hurt.
[05:37] <thedark> I tried that already
[05:38] <thedark> I tried all the recovery options
[05:38] <mefisto__> thedark: can you pastebin your xorg.conf ?
[05:38] <quassel181> Did you have KDE 3.5 or 4.0 or both installed before you upgraded?
[05:38] <thedark> 3.5
[05:39] <thedark> mefisto: can I access that through puppy linux?
[05:39] <administrator_> can someone please help me get my ethernet working? my wireless is too dog slow :(
[05:39] <thedark> what folder would it be in?
[05:40] <quassel181> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:40] <interuppt> I have an MSI K9N2 Sli Platinum, I keep seeing an interrupt 251 under eth0...
[05:40] <interuppt> my wireless is disgusting
[05:41] <mefisto__> thedark: actually you might want to try renaming your .kde directory first. sounds like X is starting if you have the mouse pointer etc
[05:41] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112655/
[05:41] <thedark> that is my xorg.conf
[05:42] <thedark> what exactly do I need to do with my kde directory?
[05:42] <interuppt> Interrupt:251 Base address:0x4000 ... anybody know what that is? all google tells me is chinese linux speak :/
[05:44] <quassel181> thedark: Just rename it to anything, like not.kde
[05:44] <quassel181> Then try and login and a new one with fresh settings will be created.
[05:44] <thedark> okay
[05:44] <thedark> hpw does my xorg.conf look?
[05:45] <mefisto__> thedark: you could specify loading with the vesa driver in xorg.conf which should get you a graphical login of some kind. so in the Device section add this line:   Driver "vesa"
[05:46] <calcmandan> hi guys.  just updated 8.04 to the newest kernel.  And now I can't get my resolution beyond 640x480.  I attempted to run nvidia-xconfig a number of times.  reading the forums, i installed envy and it didn't seem to fix anything.  i'm sort of stuck.  I have geforce 7300 gt with 256mb.
[05:47] <BentFrank> I have a program that when I start it, it just bounces the cursor for a while then goes away.  What could cause that in KDE 4.1?
[05:47] <thedark> okay
[05:47] <thedark> I will try again
[05:47] <thedark> thank you so much!
[05:47] <mefisto__> BentFrank: try starting the program from a terminal and see if there are error messages
[05:49] <mefisto__> what is the number in Xorg log files? eg Xorg.0.log Xorg.1.log etc
[05:59] <ubuntu_> hola
[06:00] <thedark> okay the dir you wanted me to rename is a hidden dir in my home directory right?
[06:00] <mefisto__> thedark: correct
[06:01] <mefisto__> thedark: did you rename it?
[06:02] <thedark> just did
[06:02] <thedark> okay... brb
[06:10] <thedark> okay I renamed it
[06:10] <thedark> still doesn't work :(
[06:10] <mefisto__> no difference at all?
[06:11] <thedark> no :(
[06:11] <rdy> deutsche hier?
[06:11] <mefisto__> ok, did you try making that change to xorg.conf ?
[06:11] <mefisto__> !de | rdy
[06:12] <sandGorgon> hi guys, any recommendation on which python IDE I should use with kubuntu ?
[06:12] <thedark> yes I did that also
[06:13] <thedark> Section "Device"
[06:13] <thedark> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[06:13] <thedark>     Driver "vesa"
[06:13] <thedark> EndSection
[06:14] <mefisto__> thedark: do you see the login screen? or just a mouse pointer?
[06:15] <thedark> just a mouser pointer and a background image
[06:16] <thedark> it does load up with the kubuntu logo and progress bar, but I never am prompted to login
[06:16] <mefisto__> do you have it normally log in automatically? or do you see the login screen and enter your password?
[06:16] <quassel181> sandGorgon: Eric is a qt4 Python IDE that a lot of people like.
[06:17] <thedark> usually I see a login screen, I don't have to enter a password
[06:19] <p_quarles> Has anyone else had problems mounting USB drives via the Device Notifier since 4.2 final?
[06:20] <thedark> what else could the problem be?
[06:20] <mefisto__> thedark: I'm trying to figure out what could be wrong. try booting the (recovery mode) kernel then choose "drop to console" or whatever it's called, then login with your username/password
[06:20] <mefisto__> then type: startx
[06:22] <mefisto__> thedark: sorry I got that wrong
[06:22] <thedark> its okay, I really appreciate your help
[06:22] <mefisto__> choose root Drop to root shell prompt
[06:22] <thedark> Iokay
[06:22] <mefisto__> no need to log in
[06:22] <mefisto__> then type startx
[06:23] <thedark> okay
[06:39] <thedark> well it was different
[06:39] <thedark> after I did startx
[06:40] <thedark> it actually showed the kde windows with the icons showing it was loading the different parts of the system
[06:40] <bot10> anybody knows how to disable the touch pad
[06:40] <bot10> it's messing with my typing
[06:40] <thedark> then the background went black, and all that was left was the mouse cursor, but I couldn't move it... it just hung
[06:41] <mefisto__> thedark: are you restarting with puppy on the same machine to come back here?
[06:41] <thedark> yes
[06:41] <mefisto__> ok
[06:41] <thedark> very frustrating
[06:42] <thedark> sorry for the long waits
[06:43] <mefisto__> so you got the desktop loading, then black, and mouse froze. did you try any keys on the keyboard?
[06:43] <thedark> yeah
[06:43] <bot10> no
[06:43] <thedark> nothing
[06:43] <bot10> nvm
[06:45] <thedark> I would sell my soul t o get my desktop back
[06:45] <mefisto__> thedark: and you still have the vesa driver set in xorg.conf ?
[06:46] <thedark> yeah, I added the line like I showed you
[06:47] <thedark> Section "Device"
[06:47] <thedark> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[06:47] <thedark>    Driver "vesa"
[06:47] <thedark> EndSection
[06:47] <thedark> I have a kde4 and kde3 dir in etc
[06:47] <thedark> am I supposed to have both?
[06:48] <mefisto__> did startx show you a login or just loaded the desktop?
[06:48] <thedark> just loaded the desktop
[06:49] <thedark> well, tried to
[06:49] <mefisto__> hmm
[06:49] <thedark> man I can't believe such a complicated issue could come up just from upgrading... I just wouldn't have done it :(
[06:49] <thedark> I was fine with the last version
[06:50] <thedark> I guess if worse comes to worse I could shrink the partition with gparted, install kubuntu 7.10 and... do I don't know what, exactly...
[06:50] <mefisto__> you could try the recovery boot again, and try  apt-get update    and    apt-get upgrade   to make sure everything got upgraded
[06:51] <thedark> actually, that might be the problem
[06:51] <thedark> I have tried that multiple times
[06:51] <thedark> and
[06:51] <thedark> each time it says it needs to remove a package, add a package, upgrade a package, it needs such and such an amount of memory
[06:51] <thedark> but it never resolve archive.ubuntu or whatever
[06:51] <thedark> so it never does it
[06:52] <mefisto__> ok well that's something to explore
[06:52] <thedark> okay I will reboot again and tell you what packages it wants to alter
[06:52] <thedark> okay?
[06:53] <mefisto__> can you pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list first?
[06:53] <thedark> sure
[06:54] <thedark> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112670/
[06:55] <mefisto__> ok go ahead and reboot now if you want to try upgrading again
[06:55] <mefisto__> I'll take a look and see what I can see
[06:55] <thedark> okay, thanks again!
[07:02] <apfelkuchen> quit
[07:05] <pkt> has anybody else been having problems with kde 4.2 screen going black?
[07:06] <pkt> It started today, for no apparent reason since I didn't do any upgrade (but I did install a few devel stuff, so maybe something was pulled in as a dependency)
[07:06] <pkt> the problem looks like kwin is doing something weird
[07:07] <pkt> because after login, the screen fades to black and desktop menus and such are also too dark to be visible
[07:08] <pkt> non-kde apps though (pulled in through the session) like firefox work fine, so it is not a monitor problem
[07:12] <kagashe> I have installed Kubuntu 8.10 and trying to upgrade to KDE 4.2. I have added the repositories and going to upgrade but have doubt on plamoids
[07:13] <kagashe> It is written on Kubuntu page to remove plasmoids
[07:14] <kagashe> Does it mean all the lasma_applet files in /usr/lib/kde4
[07:14] <kagashe> Please help me
[07:16] <pkt> kagashe: unless you are pretty sure about what you are doing, please don't touch anything under /usr
[07:18] <pkt> yes!! I fixed it!
[07:18] <kagashe> Then please explain what is meant by "Old Plasma packages are not compatible with KDE 4.2, you should uninstall any plasmoids." as written on this page http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 at no 4
[07:19] <pkt> it means if you installed third party plasmoids from kde-look.org or something
[07:19] <pkt> you should delete them because they are no longer compatible with the new plasma API
[07:19] <pkt> these should be in your $HOME/.kde/share folder though not in /usr
[07:20] <mefisto__> pkt: what did you do to fix your problem?
[07:20] <pkt> libkwineffects was somehow still 4.1.2
[07:20] <kagashe> It is a fresh install of Kubuntu 8.10 with all updates applied. There is no third party software
[07:20] <mefisto__> pkt: so not everything updated
[07:21] <pkt> yep, maybe kdebase is missing a dependency?
[07:21] <thedark> the package it wants to upgrade is libkiten1, to libkiten4
[07:22] <thedark> but it "Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release"
[07:22] <mefisto__> thedark: you had gutsy, upgraded to intrepid. correct?
[07:23] <thedark> I would assume so... I had 8.04, I am just a fool that clicked the Adept button to upgrade to 8.10
[07:23] <thedark> since then  I don't know what is what
[07:23] <pkt> kagashe: Then (at least in theory) you have nothing to be afraid of
[07:24] <mefisto__> thedark: 8.04 is hardy, but your sources.list shows references to gutsy repos. did you do a new install of 8.04 or was that upgraded from 7.10 (gutsy)?
[07:27] <thedark> upgraded from 7.10
[07:27] <kagashe> pkt: Thanks I am upgrading through Adept Updater tool, will come back here if there is any problem
[07:27] <thedark> that is the only kubuntu cd I have
[07:27] <thedark> I started with 7.10
[07:27] <thedark> upgraded to 8.04, no problems
[07:28] <thedark> yesterday I tried to upgrade to 8.10
[07:28] <thedark> and here we are
[07:28] <lennart> lennart@lennart-laptop:~$ sensors
[07:28] <lennart> acpitz-virtual-0
[07:28] <lennart> Adapter: Virtual device
[07:28] <lennart> temp1:        +0.0°C  (crit = +100.0°C)
[07:28] <mefisto__> thedark: ok, the sources.list you pastebin'd had all the gutsy repos commented out, and looks like the installer inserted intrepid ones
[07:29] <lennart> my fan is not spinning
[07:29] <lennart> ACPI shows temp: 0
[07:30] <thedark> okay
[07:30] <mefisto__> thedark: try renaming /etc/apt/sources.list to sources.list.backup and create a new sources.list with this in it: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112678/
[07:31] <mefisto__> thedark: that's the one you pastebin'd (just for reference) http://paste.ubuntu.com/112670/
[07:33] <thedark> only what you pasted, or add it to it?
[07:33] <mefisto__> thedark:it's the same as what you had, but with deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu intrepid-security main universe restricted multiverse added, and the commented lines removed
[07:33] <mefisto__> thedark: you could just add that line if you want
[07:34] <thedark> okay
[07:34] <thedark> I will reboot now
[07:34] <mefisto__> then try updating/upgrading
[07:34]  * thedark nods
[07:47] <thedark> no difference, as far as I could tell :(
[07:47] <thedark> same error when I tried to update
[07:48] <thedark> Failed to fethc "http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/Release.gpg" could not resolve 'archive.ubuntu.com'
[07:48] <thedark> *fetch
[07:51] <thedark> is mefisto still here?
[07:53] <mefisto__> thedark: yes I'm here
[07:53] <thedark> okay, just checking
[07:53]  * mefisto__ notices cu.archive.ubuntu.com  where is cu ?
[07:54] <thedark>  ?
[07:54] <mefisto__> thedark: that's what all your old gutsy repos were set to
[07:54] <thedark> I don't know
[07:54] <mefisto__> what location are you in?
[07:54] <thedark> I was in Florida when I installed 7.10
[07:54] <mefisto__> cuba?
[07:54] <thedark> now I live in South Korea
[07:55] <thedark> Miami, Florida USA
[07:55] <mefisto__> is cu cuba? does anyone know?
[07:58] <mefisto__> thedark: so you're in puppy now. can you ping archive.ubuntu.com ?
[07:58] <thedark> how do I do that?
[07:58] <mefisto__> in a terminal, type: ping archive.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <thedark> --- archive.ubuntu.com ping statistics ---
[08:00] <thedark> 26 packets transmitted, 26 packets received, 0% packet loss
[08:00] <thedark> round-trip min/avg/max = 299.6/300.2/301.4 ms
[08:00] <thedark> #
[08:06] <thedark> so is that it?
[08:06] <thedark> guess I am done, huh :)
[08:06] <thedark> :(
[08:08] <pkt> ok, I figured out the whole sequence of unfortunate events that led to destroying my poor desktop :-)
[08:09] <mefisto__> thedark: here is my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/112692/
[08:09] <mefisto__> thedark: that's 8.10 with the default servers
[08:10] <mefisto__> thedark: you could try that
[08:11] <pkt> the root cause is the tulip package depending on libgl1-mesa-swx11-dev instead of that | libgl1-mesa-dev
[08:11] <pkt> and my lack of attention at this moment
[08:12] <pkt> now back to peace and productivity :-)
[08:14] <thedark> lucky you :(
[08:19] <mefisto__> thedark: if you try update/upgrade with my sources.list and you get the same error, I would suspect that networking is misconfigured somehow
[08:36] <pkt> thedark: what is the problem in your case?
[08:45] <hellhound_> is there a tool to scan a usb drive like a disk check utility?
[08:45] <Paddy_EIRE> hellhound_: did you not cleanly unmount the usb drive in windows?
[08:46] <Paddy_EIRE> or something else?
[08:48] <hellhound_> Paddy_EIRE: i did not unmount a digital camera I used to be able to use a check for errors utility in windows that would work but I wanted one for linux so I would not have to boot into windows
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE> ah ok
[08:48] <Paddy_EIRE> sec
[08:54] <sascha_> hi all, i tried to update lic6 and got an error: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[08:54] <Paddy_EIRE> sascha_: you mean libc6
[08:54] <sascha_> yes, sry, mistyped
[08:54] <Paddy_EIRE> sascha_: what are you doing exactly?
[08:54] <sascha_> i ran the updater
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> sudo apt-get -f install
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> sascha_: ^
[08:55] <sascha_> that gave me an error, is should run manually dpkg --configure -a
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> then do so
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> :P
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[08:55] <sascha_> i did, that gave me the message I posted first
[08:55] <Paddy_EIRE> :)
[08:56] <Paddy_EIRE> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:56] <Paddy_EIRE> try that
[08:57] <hellhound_> Paddy_EIRE: any ideas on my issue?
[08:58] <Paddy_EIRE> hellhound_: still looking.. its typically "fsck" you would be using
[08:59] <sascha_> i get the same error: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> hellhound_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=674002
[09:00] <hellhound_> Paddy_EIRE: yes i found something like sudo fsck.vfat -a -l -v /dev/sda1 but my usb is not on /dev/sda1... i do not know what it is one ... sudo fdisk -l does not list it but nautilus shows it at gphoto2://[usb:003,005]/
[09:00] <Paddy_EIRE> hellhound_: ah ok.. then do "df" in a terminal
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> see it listed ?
[09:01] <Paddy_EIRE> sascha_: hmm.. what where you doing before this happened?
[09:02] <sascha_> last week I installed the kde4.2 packages from ppa
[09:02] <hellhound_> Paddy_EIRE: I don't see anything that sticks out... tmpfd, varrun, varlock, udev, tmpfs, lrm, /dev/sda7 (/home), /dev/sda5 (/)
[09:03] <Paddy_EIRE> hmm
[09:03] <sascha_> now there are 15 package left to configure, how do i know which package fails? libc6 is just the last package downloaded
[09:03] <Paddy_EIRE> you would need to forcefully mount the drive
[09:06] <sascha_> while upgrading i get something like: paket not ready for configuration (status: trigger awaited)
[09:06] <sascha_> i have to translate the messages. because i use a german system, so don't know, if these are right
[09:21] <sascha_> when i do 'dpkg -l', what does status rc mean?
[09:21] <lokai> I've trashed my /usr/share/applications/kde/keys.desktop file. Is there a way to restore it?
[09:25] <stdin> sascha_: removed but config files remain
[09:28] <fw1> the task bar at the bottom isn't exactly well animated
[09:28] <stdin> lokai: try "sudo apt-get --reinstall install kcontrol"
[09:30] <lokai> thanks.
[09:42] <raphael> Hi all
[09:42] <sascha_> i hate dpkg
[09:43] <sascha_> every time i try dpkg --configure -a I get dpkg: ../../src/packages.c:221: process_queue: Assertion `dependtry <= 4' failed.
[09:44] <sascha_> i tried debug option, but i still only get one line of output
[09:46] <sascha_> even -D2000 stupidlyverbose, stupid yes, verbose no
[09:49] <stdin> sascha_: see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dpkg/+bug/262451
[09:50] <Aison> helllo
[09:51] <Aison> i'm new to ubuntu, when I update some packages with apt-get upgrade, is there some ChangeLog somewhere?
[09:51] <Aison> what's changed a package?
[09:51] <stdin> Aison: you can see the changelog with "aptitude changelog <package>"
[09:51] <Aison> oh, ok, nice
[09:52] <stdin> Aison: there will also be a copy in /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz
[09:52] <stdin> (after it's installed)
[09:53] <Aison> nice
[09:53] <Aison> brb, got 4 new kde package, have to restart kde
[09:55] <Aison> well, akonadi still not starting ^^
[09:55] <Aison> and knotify4 still crashes when I logout
[09:55] <Aison> strange
[09:58] <sascha_> thx stdin, i found that already
[09:58] <sascha_> i fixed the problem, gxine update failed somehow
[09:58] <sascha_> i reinstalled it and now it work, thx
[09:58] <Aison> anybody have got a working akonadi service?
[09:59] <Aison> here it always hange registering at DBus
[10:15] <corigo3> When I add the repositories for downloading KDE 4.2 it also prompts me to download MySQL... is this necessary? Any reason why I would want that %^& on my computer?
[10:16]  * freaky_t np: P Diddy Featuring Mario Winans - Through The Pain (She Told Me) (Feat. Mario Winans) (Radio Edit) [04:04m/192kbps/44kHz]
[10:16] <freaky_t> :S
[10:16] <freaky_t> :D
[11:01] <urbinek> hello there
[11:01] <urbinek> can you advice me :D?
[11:02] <urbinek> what will be better install kde4.2 on kubuntu 8.04 or isntall kubuntu 8.10 and upgrade
[11:02] <urbinek> or install kubuntu wichout X (alternate CD) and install kde4.2
[11:03] <carpii_> probably the best way is to upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 so you get 4.1 or something
[11:03] <carpii_> then upgrade to 4.2
[11:03] <carpii_> but i imagine the recommended way is explained in the topic url
[11:05] <urbinek> so install 8.10 and upgrade kde
[11:05] <urbinek> i don't wanna upgrade ubuntu, it never works
[11:06] <urbinek> and one more, is it worth ? kde3.5 vs kde4.2 ?
[11:07] <carpii_> depends what it is you want
[11:07] <carpii_> personally i hate 4.2
[11:08] <carpii_> i tried it and had to reinstall completely to go back to 3.5
[11:08] <carpii_> you might be better trying it in a virtualbox or vmware before upgrading your main machine
[11:10] <urbinek> mhm
[11:11] <urbinek> i've got same feelings about 4.1 but i really like kde
[11:11] <urbinek> and don't wanna stay back or install gnome
[11:12] <stdin> you can't install 4.2 on 8.04 and the alternate CD will install X and KDE as normal
[11:13] <urbinek> are you shure that ther is no way to disable kde install ?
[11:14] <stdin> you'd have to use the server CD
[11:14] <urbinek> mhm
[11:14] <urbinek> and ofcource server cd is very diffrent from desktop ?
[11:15] <stdin> the server CD does not install X or KDE or Gnome
[11:15] <stdin> just a command line system
[11:15] <urbinek> and only this ?
[11:16] <stdin> if you don't want to install a Desktop system you need to use the Server CD
[11:16] <urbinek> is it suppord mdadm ? i want make softweare raid (alternate CD does)
[11:16] <stdin> the server install supports everything the alternate CD does
[11:16] <urbinek> i want desktop and X but i don't wanna mess in packages
[11:17] <stdin> nothing stopping you from installing the desktop after you've installed the system
[11:17] <urbinek> i know :)
[11:18] <urbinek> but first i must check out kde4.2 on vbox
[11:37] <keldrona> login #amsn
[11:41] <ScottK> This is a test (sorry for the disturbance).
[11:43] <pkt> urbinek: I doubt you will gain much by testing on vbox. Most problems with kde 4.2 are due to broken graphics drivers and vbox won't help with those
[11:44] <pkt> better try a livecd
[11:46] <andreas> hello
[11:46] <andreas> is this the support channel :S?
[11:46] <nes> how are you?
[11:49] <[nDy]> Hi all... am on Intrepid. Currently it is the only drive in the system. But I wish to install another drive and install XP on it (for games) Is tehre a wway to Install XP without having to re-install Kubuntu? Can anyone point me to a page that will help me?
[11:55] <vlad> !change user pswrd
[11:56] <andreas> i got a problem: i want to copy some files. but in the middle of the copy process  the speed gets slower and completely stops (it gives me the option to skip some files too Oo). after that i get problems with my hard disk. then my system laggs hardly and i cant acces the hard disk anymore. when i restart it says to insert a propper boot device for some moment. but after turning it off for some secs and starting then it works again. help
[11:56] <andreas> please :(
[11:56] <vlad> !user pswrd
[11:57] <vlad> !sudo pswrd
[11:57] <vlad> !sudo pswrd change
[11:58] <uni4dfx> how do i debug kde4.2? it's constantly crashing
[12:02] <utdmr> i'll ask a silly simple question. What must i do for writing "~", what is the button combitanion for it? (ex. shift + 4 for '+')
[12:02] <uni4dfx> try AltGr+1 (press 1 twice)
[12:03] <carpii_> utdmr, in UK keyb its shift + hash #
[12:05] <utdmr> i  have a turkish qwerty keyboard. altgr+1 writs '>>'. what is the hash button? i make '#' with alt+3
[12:05] <uni4dfx> when do you think KDE 4.x will be usable?  4.5?
[12:08] <utdmr> ok. i can do it with shift+insert . thanks for replies
[12:11] <uni4dfx> can't decide what's worse... KDE or Vista
[12:18] <uni4dfx> Kubuntu ... the worst possible implementation of KDE
[12:31] <shal3r> I added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" to my Ubuntu 8.10 and installed kde-nightly but it`s not listed in Session Type menu at login. Why?
[12:31] <stdin> kde-nightly is from the Neon project, not Kubuntu
[12:33] <shal3r> stdin, i followed http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 to get KDE4.2
[12:34] <stdin> there isn't a separate menu entry for 4.2, it's just "KDE"
[12:35] <shal3r> ok, i will check
[12:35] <marcel_> please i can run ncurses functions from gfortran or fort77 ??
[12:35] <quassel10> Riddell: quassel seems okay :)
[12:36]  * jussi01 wonders who quassel10 really is...
[12:36] <quassel10> davmor2 on a test box :)
[12:37]  * quassel10 likes the top box where you lose out on the traffic
[12:41] <pvandewyngaerde> shal3r:  i use   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main     for kde 4.2 nightlies
[12:42] <shal3r> pvandewyngaerde, ok, i will try. thanks.
[12:49] <stdin> pvandewyngaerde: neon uses trunk, so it's 4.3 now
[12:49] <_2> locate: warning: database `/var/cache/locate/locatedb' is more than 8 days old
[12:49] <_2> rm /var/cache/locate/locatedb
[12:49] <_2> heh fixed
[12:50] <pvandewyngaerde> yes indeed , forgot about that
[12:52] <pkt> uni4dfx: that is a bit harsh don't you think? kde 4.2 works great for me at least
[12:52] <pkt> most likely you either have a graphics driver issue or you are missing some kde app that is not yet ported?
[12:55] <_2> set
[12:55] <_2> go
[13:11] <shal3r> [ubuntu 8.10] I updated kde-desktop to 4.2 via kde-experimental i but don`t have KDE in "Session Type" menu. Any ideas?
[13:12] <shal3r> i ment "kubuntu-desktop", not kde-desktop
[13:13] <ghostcube> shal3r: are u using gdm or kdm i dont know if gdm is handling kdm for kde4 a the moment
[13:13] <shal3r> i think it`s KDM
[13:13] <shal3r> tfu
[13:13] <shal3r> it gdm ;)
[13:13] <shal3r> how to switch to kdm?
[13:14] <ghostcube> shal3r: i dont know exactly if this is need to switch but normally installing kdm for kde4 should remove gdm but i dont know exactly havent done for a long time maybe wait if anyone confirms this
[13:14] <ghostcube> :)
[13:15] <Heliodor> how do i see printer jobs queue??
[13:15] <shal3r> not i got this: http://rafb.net/p/wwd0wM96.html
[13:15] <ghostcube> the little icon in the taskbar ? if there is a job this should be the que or you can try the web interface for cups
[13:16] <edgy> Hi, I added %admin ALL=NOPASSWD:  /usr/bin/rsync and expected my users of group admin would run sudo rsync without being prompted for password, but still the prompt appear!
[13:16] <ghostcube> shal3r: can u pastebin your sources.list ?
[13:17] <shal3r> ghostcube, ok, please wait a bit
[13:17] <ghostcube> :)
[13:20] <shal3r> http://rafb.net/p/bSBVPN59.html
[13:21] <maverick340> i have a weird problem. kdm loads fine but on entering the password it comes back to the login screen
[13:21] <maverick340> password is correct , it just resets back to the login screen
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:21] <ghostcube> maverick340: is this existing user ?
[13:21] <maverick340> tried xfix, fsck reconfigured xserver
[13:21] <ghostcube> hi ActionParsnip
[13:22] <maverick340> yes, existing user
[13:22] <ghostcube> maverick340: start with a blank session
[13:22] <maverick340> how ?
[13:22] <maverick340> i tried all sessions
[13:22] <maverick340> except for the terminal nothing comes up
[13:22] <ghostcube> maverick340: inside systemsettings   go to the extra settings tab
[13:22] <edgy> maverick340: create a new user and try to log into that
[13:23] <maverick340> hmm good idea edgy
[13:23] <ghostcube> edgy: to try a blank session would do the same
[13:23] <ghostcube> :D
[13:23] <edgy> maverick340: may be it's a config problem in your current .kde
[13:23] <maverick340> last iten installed was a asciifishscreensaver
[13:23] <maverick340> dont ask my why its my gf pc :-)
[13:24] <shal3r> ghostcube, http://rafb.net/p/bSBVPN59.html - any ideas?
[13:24] <ghostcube> moment
[13:24] <maverick340> edgy, i ll try to make a new user an try
[13:24] <edgy> ghostcube: but he cannot log to the GUI so how can maverick340 go to systemsettings
[13:25] <ghostcube> edgy: damn point for u
[13:25] <ghostcube> :D
[13:25] <maverick340> ghostcube, yep -
[13:25]  * ghostcube gives a cookie to edgy 
[13:25] <ghostcube> :)
[13:25] <edgy> ghostcube: ;)
[13:25] <edgy> ghostcube: it's delicious ;)
[13:25] <ghostcube> hehe i hope so
[13:25] <ghostcube> :D
[13:25] <maverick340> how do i add a user with privileges ?
[13:25] <ghostcube> shal3r: hmm
[13:26] <ghostcube> what does it tell u if u try to install an masked package directly
[13:26] <ghostcube> any better hints
[13:26] <ghostcube> ?
[13:26] <maverick340> dont asnwer that , i got it
[13:27] <shal3r> ghostcube, something like apt-get install akregator
[13:27] <shal3r> ?
[13:27] <ghostcube> yes
[13:31] <maverick340> nope, didnt help
[13:31] <vlad> how can i change the pswrd for the user?
[13:31] <vlad> pls
[13:31] <vlad> i forgot
[13:31] <maverick340> i added a user with no arguments . adduser <username>
[13:31] <maverick340> still the same problem
[13:34] <maverick340> btw i am using kde 4.2
[13:34] <maverick340> is there a way to restore to default kde settings ?
[13:38] <carpii_> try moving $HOME/.kde to another directory and restarting
[13:40] <shal3r> ghostcube, akregator (4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid~ppa3) installed
[13:40] <ghostcube> hmm
[13:41] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:41] <shal3r> ghostcube, maybe it`s because i have kde3 intalled on 8.10 ?
[13:42] <ghostcube> oh you dont have the 4.x ?
[13:42] <shal3r> no
[13:42] <ghostcube> inside the experimental repo is 4.2 it should update youre 3.x
[13:42] <shal3r> that kde3 isn`t ubuntu/kubuntu official
[13:42] <ghostcube> oha
[13:42] <shal3r> it`s this one - http://ppa.launchpad.net/kb9vqf/ubuntu/dists/intrepid/main/binary-i386/Packages
[13:42] <ghostcube> hmm but it shouls update too
[13:42] <ghostcube> *d
[13:43] <ghostcube> you dont want kde 4 ?
[13:43] <shal3r> i want kde4.2 now
[13:43] <ghostcube> so isnt my commandline doing an full upgrade ?
[13:43] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:44] <shal3r> http://rafb.net/p/NQZ1lT65.html
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> ghostcube: that will uprade all installed apps but wll not jump up a release
[13:45] <ghostcube> ActionParsnip: nah he weants 4.2 and he has 3.x so it should update oO
[13:45] <ghostcube> or ?
[13:48] <ghostcube> shal3r: then u should have kde4
[13:48] <ghostcube> have u rebootet
[13:49] <shal3r> ok, rebooting...
[13:49] <shal3r> i got kde3 on intrepid with this: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=963695
[13:50] <shal3r> and now i see that it says "Attention! Install KDE 3 will REMOVE official Kubuntu KDE 4"
[13:51] <ghostcube> oO
[13:52] <d_mitry> kubuntu 8.10. sometimes (sadly, i haven't spotted any pattern), the system experiences a hang such that the keyboard doesn't respond, but i can control the mouse cursor, though nothing else on the screen changes and amarok doesn't stop playing. any way to recover?
[13:52] <ghostcube> d_mitry: grafic card and driver
[13:53] <shal3r> ghostcube, if i installed kde3 with "apt-get install kde3", then should "apt-get remove kde3" remove all these kde3 packages?
[13:53] <d_mitry> ghostcube: ok. thanks.
[13:53] <ghostcube> hmmm
[13:53] <ghostcube> d_mitry: what is yours
[13:53] <shal3r> rebooting did nothing about kde4
[13:53] <ghostcube> shal3r: hmm thats bad i dont know why the kde3 packages are killing the 4.2
[13:54] <shal3r> now i want to remove kde3 packages completely
[13:55] <d_mitry> ghostcube: oh. :P how would i check?
[13:56] <ghostcube> lspci  for the card and glxinfo | grep Vendor   for the ddrivers
[13:57] <d_mitry> ghostcube: ATI Technologies Inc RV350 AS [Radeon 9550]
[13:57] <d_mitry> and nothing was returned by the latter command
[13:58] <d_mitry> possibly because of the capital. without it, server glx vendor string: SGI client glx vendor string: SGI OpenGL vendor string: DRI R300 Project
[13:59] <ghostcube> d_mitry: hmm ok this should work fine if you use the opensource drivers as it seems
[14:00] <thefish> has anyone got video thumbnails in kde4.2 / dolphin working?
[14:00] <d_mitry> ghostcube: i am told that i can use a proprietary graphics driver. the last time i did it (though this was in gnome long ago), nothing good came of it. black screen after login.
[14:00] <d_mitry> to risk?
[14:00] <ghostcube> nope
[14:01] <ghostcube> not use fglrx with this card
[14:01] <ghostcube> ati os drivers are fine
[14:01] <ghostcube> d_mitry: what kde version is this
[14:01] <d_mitry> ghostcube: 4.1.4
[14:02] <ghostcube> hmm have u tried the update to 4.2
[14:02] <ghostcube> and there is a non patched xorg server from ScottK ppa
[14:02] <d_mitry> i haven't. how would i go about that?
[14:03] <ghostcube> shal3r: hmm maybe try to get rid of the kde packages u installed and remove this repo out of your list then try if you can install kde4.2
[14:03] <ghostcube> d_mitry: kubuntu.org for the update
[14:03] <d_mitry> ghostcube: thanks. i'll try.
[14:03] <shal3r> ghostcube, that`s what i`m doing now
[14:04] <ghostcube> d_mitry: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kitterman/+archive/ppa
[14:04] <ghostcube> make sure the repo version is intrepid
[14:04] <ghostcube> :)
[14:06] <d_mitry> ghostcube: yep.
[14:11] <cuznt> i am usuing digiKam to upload my images to my pc... when i choose to update gwenview however, it wants to uninstal my digiKam
[14:11] <cuznt> is there another option for digiKam?
[14:13] <maverick340> solved it
[14:13] <maverick340> the solution was really, i stress really lame . any guesses ?
[14:14] <maverick340> ghostcube, edgy : any guesses ;-) ?
[14:14] <salvatore> hello
[14:15] <maverick340> hello salvatore
[14:15] <ghostcube> maverick340: hmmm removing the ascii fishi thing
[14:15] <maverick340> ghostcube, nope
[14:15] <maverick340> one more try and  ill tell ya'll
[14:15] <ghostcube> maverick340: hmm no idea
[14:16] <maverick340> no disk space :P
[14:16] <ghostcube> oha root full
[14:16] <maverick340> i removed the .kde folder, tried to move it to another location on /home
[14:16] <ghostcube> :D
[14:16] <maverick340> said no disk space
[14:16] <maverick340> i was like, omg ! wtf
[14:17] <maverick340> removed all the dammned chick flicks , incomplete movies , useless junk
[14:17] <maverick340> and voila, it booted !
[14:17] <maverick340> of course i got booted out of the room after that .. lol
[14:18] <edgy> maverick340: happy to hear it
[14:18] <maverick340> thanks guys .. if i had not tried to recreate that dir , i wouldnt have come to know :)
[14:18] <carpii_> how do i get the source code for an app in the repositories? I thought theyd all be on launchpad but its all a jumbled up mess
[14:19] <maverick340> carpii_, try the SVN repos
[14:19] <JontheEchidna> apt-get source packagename
[14:19] <carpii_> oic, thanks
[14:19] <carpii_> is there a standard way to find out who to contact, should I want to upload a patch to the svn repo ?
[14:19] <d_mitry> ghostcube: kde 4.2. give me a few minutes to realise what is going on.
[14:20] <edulix> hi
[14:21] <shal3r> ghostcube, looks like kde 4.2 is installing after removing kde3
[14:21] <ghostcube> shal3r: cool
[14:21] <maverick340> i am off guys, thanks again
[14:21] <edulix> what file do I need to edit to make ubuntu reload the ath_pci driver in suspend/resume? I need to do it manually everytime..
[14:21] <ghostcube> d_mitry: :-?
[14:22] <cuznt> Mon Feb 2 2009] [09:11:17] <cuznt> i am usuing digiKam to upload my images to my pc... when i choose to update gwenview however, it wants to uninstal my digiKam.  is there another option for digiKam? or a replacement program i should be usuing?
[14:22] <cuznt> excuse the repeat pc restarted
[14:22] <d_mitry> ghostcube: i don't think it's supposed to be this black. i'll take a screenshot if i don't find a fix.
[14:23] <ghostcube> d_mitry: i heard this another day the kde 4.2 is dark ?
[14:23] <d_mitry> ghostcube: done. should've changed the theme to oxygen. things were looking crazy.
[14:23] <ghostcube> have u updated the xorg server ?
[14:24] <d_mitry> not that i know of.
[14:24] <ghostcube> d_mitry: i gave u a link to the ppa repo
[14:24] <d_mitry> ah. give me time. :P
[14:24] <ghostcube> add this and update xorg server
[14:24] <ghostcube> :)
[14:24] <ghostcube> no prob
[14:24] <d_mitry> ironically, another hang happened after getting kde 4.2.
[14:25] <ghostcube> maybe u need to choose session type KDE from kdm cause it wont load the old profile
[14:25] <ghostcube> d_mitry: may the xorg server can change this
[14:26] <edgy> AGAIN: I added myuser ALL=NOPASSWD:  /usr/bin/ls and expected my users of group admin would run sudo ls without being prompted for password, but still the prompt appear! any hint?
[14:27] <d_mitry> ghostcube: i've a more visible problem now. resizing the taskbar resulted in the majority of the screen being filled with blackness. i remember someone saying this on some forum, but i don't remember if/how they fixed it.
[14:27] <ghostcube> d_mitry: just install the xorg packages and then maybe do an reboot first
[14:27] <ghostcube> :)
[14:28] <khalidmian> trying to find a solution to see windows folders from kubuntu installed using WUBI loader rather then GRUB
[14:28] <d_mitry> ghostcube: alright, sure. :P
[14:28] <d_mitry> ghostcube: just in case you're interested, here's a screenshot: http://www.yoimg.com/i/13224822-black.png
[14:28] <ghostcube> d_mitry: i seen this somewhere last time
[14:29] <ghostcube> i dont remember what caused this
[14:29] <ghostcube> :|
[14:31] <d_mitry> ghostcube: so add the two lines in the sources file, replacing jaunty with intrepid?
[14:31] <carpii_> whats a good ide for compiling sources from the repo's?  I cant seem to set eclipse up correctly
[14:33] <khalidmian> trying to find a solution to see windows folders from kubuntu installed using WUBI loader rather then GRUB
[14:33] <d_mitry> ghostcube: never mind. didn't see the listbox.
[14:33] <carpii_> use samba. im not sure why GRUB or WUBI would be relevant
[14:33] <Panoptic> Anyone who knows what package(s) to download in order to config the fonts in Konversation?
[14:40] <d_mitry> ghostcube: do you want me to install the package xorg-server?
[14:40] <ct529> anyone using cuda on kubuntu?
[14:41] <genii> ct529: The nvidia programming classes?
[14:41] <raphael_> i am using kubuntu
[14:44] <raphael_> but i don't know what is cuda
[14:45] <altrortla> hello.... i need help for LAN mixed configuration tutorial.... or program to controll IT... any tips ?
[14:45] <Bou> hi
[14:46] <Bou> how can I disable the automatic hibernation?
[14:47] <failers> is there a console command to diasble laptop touchpad?
[14:47] <ct529> raphael_: http://www.nvidia.com/object/cuda_home.html
[14:47] <ct529> raphael_: programming language for multiprocessing
[14:47] <ct529> raphael_: on GPUs
[14:48] <ct529> raphael_: sorry, multiprocessor programming .... kind of extending C
[14:48] <ct529> s/C/C++
[14:49] <ghostcube> d_mitry: just update
[14:49] <ghostcube> if u added the repo i gave u
[14:49] <ghostcube> it will bring the packages
[14:51] <altrortla> i explane better ... i have several PC, some XP, some Kubuntu... in some case I can see kubuntu shared folder in other i can see it... I'd like to solve this kind of problem
[14:51] <ghostcube> altrortla: is this samba made share
[14:52] <ghostcube> check if the firewall on windows blocks the network lookup
[14:52] <shal3r> ghostcube, i got kde4.2 now :)
[14:52] <ghostcube> shal3r: heh cool
[14:52] <altrortla> ghostcube: ahh firewall ... may be
[14:52] <shal3r> How to get better looking Firefox in KDE4.2 ?
[14:52] <shal3r> ghostcube, thanks for help
[14:52] <altrortla> ghostcube: I'll check
[14:53] <ghostcube> shal3r: np ehm better looking ff ? hmm i dont know but i think there is an firefox kubuntu addon package
[14:53] <ghostcube> just search apt-gcache search firefox
[14:53] <ghostcube> *cache
[14:53] <dewman> Good Morning. I have a question regarding usb
[14:54] <d_mitry> ghostcube: there was nothing to update. i installed the packages listed under xorg-server on that page. restarted. didn't fix the hang, which occurred when i tried quitting knetworkmanager. restarted again, managed to quit it with no problems.
[14:55] <ghostcube> d_mitry: if u add the repo i gave u
[14:55] <ghostcube> and do
[14:55] <d_mitry> i did
[14:55] <ghostcube> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:55] <ghostcube> it should catch the xorg-packages
[14:55] <ghostcube> oO if not this would be strange
[14:55] <dewman> I am using usbview, and it says "Can not open the file /proc/bus/usb/devices Verify that you have usb compiled into your kernel have the usb core modules loaded ,and have the usbdevfs filesystem mounted.
[14:56] <dewman> how in the heck to i do that? =)
[14:56] <d_mitry> two secs
[14:58] <JohnFlux> dewman: sudo mount -t usbfs usbfs /proc/bus/usb
[14:58] <JohnFlux> dewman: second hit on google
[14:59] <malv> systray corruption is so annoying. like having something stuck in your teeth
[15:00] <dewman> JohnFlux. Thanks. Is there a way to make that persistant after a reboot?
[15:02] <KORBEN_X64> dewman: maybe you should put that on /etc/fstab
[15:02] <JohnFlux> usb /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0
[15:02] <JohnFlux> put that line in /etc/fstab
[15:02] <JohnFlux> dewman: ^^
[15:02] <KORBEN_X64> that's it :)
[15:02] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:02] <dewman> got it.
[15:03] <d_mitry> ghostcube: which packages would be downloaded? i could check my version against the latest because perhaps i've already updated them.
[15:04] <ghostcube> d_mitry: if nothing is caught they will be the same maybe
[15:04] <ghostcube> or you already updated
[15:04] <d_mitry> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[15:04] <ghostcube> hmm ok
[15:05] <d_mitry> some packages were upgraded (like gwenview and some bluetooth), but nothing related to xorg.
[15:05] <KORBEN_X64> a question... are you experiencing perfomance issues after upgrading a kubuntu 8.10 fresh install??
[15:06] <d_mitry> also, more lag with kde 4.2. :(
[15:07] <khalidmian> trying to find a solution to see windows folders from kubuntu installed using WUBI loader rather then GRUB
[15:09] <KORBEN_X64> khalidmian: do you mean seeing the folders in a file manager in linux?
[15:09] <shadowhywind> hayall i am going to to have to convert a vfat to ext3 (hdd is blank now). How would i go about using mkfs.ext3 ?? any ideas?
[15:10] <Panoptic> Anyone who knows what packages to download in order to get KDE control center to work? I am using Konversation under Gnome and would like to change some fonts, which are otherwise unaccessable.
[15:10] <genii> shadowhywind: If hd partition is eg: /dev/sdc1   then:  sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdc1
[15:11] <khalidmian> KORBEN_X64: yes i would like to see my window files from within kubuntu using dolphin or whatever but the problem is that i installed kubuntu within windows which uses Wubi loader instead of Grub
[15:11] <shadowhywind> genii: is that it? no special flags or anything?? (just don't want to screw anything up, hehe)
[15:12] <genii> shadowhywind: There are a lot of options than CAN be specified. But the defaults are fine.
[15:12] <KORBEN_X64> khalidmian: forgive if i am mistaken, i never used Wubi but... is the whole system installed in it's own partition?
[15:12] <shadowhywind> genii: also good guess on the /dev/sdc1, thats the exact partition i am doing, hehe
[15:13] <KORBEN_X64> or is it installed inside a huge file in an ntfs/fat32 partition?
[15:13] <shadowhywind> also One other issue, my left click on my touchpad is now acting as a leftclick and a paste c ommand, any ideas?
[15:14] <khalidmian> KORBEN_X64: im not sure im not that techinically savvy sorry but im assuming that the install is within the same hd i dont know if it createsa seperate partition because in worth come scenario i can actually reboot to windows and uninstall kubuntu via add/remove programs which one cant if installed using Grub
[15:15] <Duesentrieb> hi all. i'm just setting upo 8-10 with kde 4.1, and i'm confused about knetworkamanger. it never asks for a passphrase for the wireless. it just tries to conenct and fails.
[15:15] <Duesentrieb> what am i missing?
[15:16] <jacopo> Ciao
[15:16] <KORBEN_X64> khalidmian: i just readed some wubi documentation an as i thought, it installs linux in the same partition as windows... no messing with the hard disk
[15:16] <khalidmian> Duesentrieb: are u using wirelss networking @ home
[15:16] <jacopo> c'è qualche buona anima che mi da una mano?
[15:16] <Duesentrieb> khalidmian: huh?
[15:16] <Duesentrieb> khalidmian: what do you mean? i'm seeing the network. i'm using it to post this message.
[15:16] <khalidmian> Duesentrieb: to connect to internet what are u using
[15:17] <Duesentrieb> from another box, obviously
[15:17] <khalidmian> WEP? WPA? WPA2 or what?
[15:17] <Duesentrieb> khalidmian: wpa2/psk i think.
[15:17] <jacopo> c' qualche Italiano???
[15:18] <KORBEN_X64> anyway, if i am not mistaken, you should see windows folders... try to mount the windows filesystem manually...
[15:18] <KORBEN_X64> i've some issues using wpa in kubuntu... it drops the connection every 2-3 minutes and then it connect again
[15:19] <Duesentrieb> khalidmian: WPA version 1, TKIP, PSK
[15:19] <Duesentrieb> (or so iwlist sais)
[15:19] <khalidmian> Duesentrieb: see pm pls
[15:19] <KORBEN_X64> khalidmian: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php
[15:20] <KORBEN_X64> there they say that windows folders are accesible in /host or /media
[15:20] <carpii_> where does KDELIBS environment var get set normally?
[15:21] <genii> shadowhywind: You might also want to change the partition type of sdc1 to linux from vfat or so, but it's not essential for formatting or mounting it from fstab. Automount may get confused however.
[15:23] <khalidmian> KORBEN_X64: ty
[15:23] <hamdi> hi
[15:24] <KORBEN_X64> it worked?
[15:25] <sven_> hello all, what is the fastest and best internet browser in Kubuntu?
[15:28] <khalidmian> sven either konquerer or firefox or opera
[15:28] <sven_> they are slooooooooooooooooooow
[15:28] <KORBEN_X64> sven_:try iceweasel
[15:28] <khalidmian> KORBEN_X64: yes  the files are visible under host folder
[15:29] <khalidmian> KORBEN_X64: /root/host
[15:30] <KORBEN_X64> ok :)
[15:30] <khalidmian> sven_: http://www.howtocreate.co.uk/browserSpeed.html
[15:32]  * khalidmian is loving his wubi installed linux every moment - best choice ever made
[15:35] <BluesKaj> khalidmian , remember you're still on windows, so windows precautions are in order , khalidmian :P
[15:35] <khalidmian> i only wish i was tech savvy enough to install windows with kubuntu - like vitual machine but then i wonder if iphone support would exist - the only reason i have windows is for my iphone-itunes
[15:35] <KORBEN_X64> there are ways to sync the iphone in linux
[15:36] <BluesKaj> !VB | khalidmian
[15:36] <khalidmian> window precautions?
[15:36] <BluesKaj> !Virtual Box | khalidmian
[15:36] <carpii_> does adept keep a log of packages recently installed?
[15:36] <khalidmian> i dont knw about VB either
[15:36] <KORBEN_X64> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[15:37] <BluesKaj> khalidmian , security precautions
[15:37] <khalidmian> KORBEN_X64: my iphone isnt jailbroken neither do i intend to jailbreak it
[15:37] <KORBEN_X64> ups
[15:37] <KORBEN_X64> so, i suppose there's no way :P
[15:38] <ubuntu_> hi
[15:38] <khalidmian> BluesKaj: pls explain - also in VB can one use windows like normally or does it have restrictions
[15:39] <khalidmian> KORBEN_X64: unfornately thats why i have windows - for my iphone/itunes connectivity sync and support
[15:39] <BluesKaj> well khalidmian , alot of ppl like virtual machine
[15:39] <BluesKaj> I'm not a fan of emulators
[15:40] <BluesKaj> if i want to run windows i just boot into my windows partition
[15:40] <khalidmian> BluesKaj: isnt that the same that i do under wubi install?
[15:46] <david_> anyone got a link to wine chat?
[15:47] <khalidmian> BluesKaj: can u assist on VM info anything i can read and learn about?
[15:47] <dr_Willis> !wine
[15:48] <BluesKaj> !virtual machine | khalidmian
[15:48] <BluesKaj> !VirtualBox
[15:54] <khalidmian> do u recommend installing vista under virtual machine environment?
[15:55] <carpii_> i recommend not installing vista
[15:56] <carpii_> but i guess itd work in virtualbox, maybe youd need to disable a lot of the gui effects etc
[15:56] <khalidmian> lol yes but unfortunatleyi need it for my iphone support/sync
[15:58] <khalidmian> if iphone support is available in vista under virtual box pls let me know cause i want to then install kubuntu using whole harddrive and install vista using virtual box
[16:00] <resno> hello all. I have a quick question. What is the best lightweight version of ubunutu to use?
[16:00] <Tm_T> Kubuntu ofcourse
[16:01] <resno> Tm_T: Well, its a little heavy weight. I am talking about running it on OLD hardware.
[16:01] <Tm_T> resno: so am I, it's not heavy here, but then again, you never mentioned what you need and what are the preferences (:)
[16:01] <carpii_> Xubuntu
[16:02] <Tm_T> carpii_: it's not automatically that much "lighter" really (:)
[16:02] <Duesentrieb> hm... once again, i can't find the setting for switching to another desktop by bumping the mouse into the screen's edge...
[16:02] <khalidmian> resno: http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php
[16:02] <Duesentrieb> where is is hidden in kde4?
[16:02] <carpii_> depends whether you mean lighter as in download size, or lighter for performance i guess
[16:03] <Tm_T> carpii_: well, I can run KDE4 fine with my old laptop, 128 MiB ram
[16:03] <khalidmian> resno: look at what you want at http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/index.php
[16:03] <resno> carpii_: lighter performance, i am running it on older hardware.
[16:04] <khalidmian> if iphone support is available in vista under virtual box pls let me know cause i want to then install kubuntu using whole harddrive and install vista using virtual box
[16:05] <Tm_T> resno: CLI-only install is lightest ofcourse, then LXDE with it perhaps... there's lots of what user can affect though
[16:05] <Duesentrieb> oh. "active desctop barders" or whatever it is in english. in the settings for the *window* behavior. not in the settigns for virtual desktops.
[16:05] <Duesentrieb> gah!
[16:06] <resno> Tm_T: ok. Thanks
[16:17] <adben> huge fonts at the kdm, kde4.2 login screen what can i do?
[16:19] <resno> adben: adjust the dpi or font size?
[16:19] <adben> both
[16:20] <adben> i put the dpi in 96
[16:20] <adben> but still is huge
[16:21] <alain> 29602330
[16:21] <resno> adben: is the font big elsewhere?
[16:23] <dr_Willis> you did restart the X server, and KDM after changing that?
[16:23] <adben> resno: no, i change the settings of the fonts an rebooted
[16:24] <dr_Willis> its not the default Resoltion thats just low is it?
[16:24] <adben> the resolution its ok
[16:25] <resno> adben: it may be the login screen settings...
[16:25] <yao_ziyuan> are there ubuntu/kubuntu 9.04 test isos?
[16:27] <genii> yao_ziyuan: Yes. See http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/jaunty/alpha-3/
[16:28] <adben> another question, kde apps(dolphin, konkeror, etc) in thismachine, think that my home folder is the one of other user in this machine i check the setting and the home folder its correctly set (system settigns, personal, about me, paths)...)
[16:28] <khalidmian> ok i need help really
[16:28] <dr_Willis> hmmm?
[16:28] <khalidmian> hi dr
[16:30] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: ok so here is my problem - i have Vista oem recovery disks not an iso - i trying installing vista under virtual machine using those but it doesnt work any help there? if not does that mean i need an iso file which in turn means i need windows vista cd/dvd?
[16:31] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: also i have intel centrino duo how do i find out if my unit is 64 bit capable? and if it is do u recommend 64 bit over 32 bit installing of kubuntu/vista?
[16:33] <resno> khalidmian: recovery disks are not meant for install.
[16:33] <resno> khalidmian: they are meant to recover.
[16:33] <khalidmian> resno: which means i need actual vista dvd
[16:34] <resno> khalidmian: yes
[16:34] <Cruster> hi all!
[16:34] <khalidmian> resno: regrading my other question how do i find out if i have 64 bit processing capalibities and if so is 64 bit kubuntu recommended over 32 bit?
[16:35] <khalidmian> resno: i have an intel centrino duo notebook
[16:35] <Cruster> i'm searching for a way to make my wireless connect before login...is it possible?
[16:35] <resno> khalidmian: you know what processor can handle. search google.
[16:35] <Duesentrieb> what's the right power management to use? guidance or powernow?
[16:35] <Duesentrieb> powernowd seems to be installed, but i see no kde interface.
[16:35] <resno> khalidmian: some are some arent. each processor is different search online.
[16:35] <Duesentrieb> should i install the powermanagement-interface package?...
[16:36] <Duesentrieb> i'm confused :/
[16:36] <resno> Duesentrieb: what are you trying to do?
[16:36] <Duesentrieb> suspend etc works fine, i just want some control over stepping. and... i want to configure what happens when i close the lid.
[16:36] <jussi01> powerdevil?
[16:36] <Duesentrieb> or tell it to suspend when bat is low. etc.
[16:37] <Duesentrieb> jussi01: i'll try that, thanks
[16:39] <Duesentrieb> jussi01: err, i installed it, but how do i use it?
[16:40] <saschpe_> Hi y'all! I'm running Jaunty and have some issues with KSplash. The corresponding KCM module does not show new splash themes from GHNS. Furthermore it displays old splash screen from KDE-4.2.1 but shows the correct thumbnail of the current "Air" theme. Anyone experiencing this too?
[16:40] <tyler_d> I am getting an error trying to cmake the kdiff package?
[16:44] <Duesentrieb> jussi01: hm... will it conflict with powersaved?
[16:45] <khalidmian> all it tells me is that i have
[16:45] <khalidmian> 	
[16:45] <khalidmian> 	
[16:45] <khalidmian>     * Intel® Core™2 Duo processor T5500 (1.66GHz, 667MHz FSB, L1 Cache 32KB/32KB, L2 Cache 2MB)
[16:45] <khalidmian> im assuming thats 32 bit processing capability not 64 bit
[16:46] <solussd> anyone have any idea why i cannot login to kde 4.2 on kubuntu 8.10? i followed the upgrade instructions it gets to the login screen, but after typing in my username and password it simply hangs at the gray wallpaper image. no desktop ever appears. I've tried removing my .kde directory. im running on vmware fusion, if that matters. kde 4.1 worked fine.
[16:49] <genii> khalidmian: Core 2 are usually 64bit
[16:49] <ct529> I have a problem: my kubuntu installtion has suddenly started using firefox as default browser from konversation, instead of konqueror
[16:50] <khalidmian> genii: its says l1 cache 32kb/32kb
[16:51] <ct529> but the fiule association is still right: konqueror for html .... why is it doing that?
[16:51] <hairy918> hey, all. i'm suddenly having issues w/ pkg mgr. for instance, apt-get update fails to fetch archive.ubuntu.com feisty. i'm running ubuntu 7.04. is feisty officially dead?
[16:52] <genii> khalidmian: http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SL9SH indicates it's a 64bit cpu
[16:53] <khalidmian> ct529: go into system settings /default applications
[16:54] <genii> hairy918: Feisty reached End of Life in Oct 2008
[16:54] <ct529> khalidmian: yes, done .... but the selection there is "in an applicarion based on the content of the URL" as it should be ....
[16:54] <helpdesk> please, any one knows how to run the qemu pc emulator on my terminal?
[16:55] <hairy918> hm. guess i gotta get my 8.10 install working. Unfortunately, pkg mgr on that died also - claims something like 'cups is dead because of triggers' - not on right now, so I don't recall exact wording.
[16:56] <hairy918> plus, i couldn't get authentication to my ldap server working
[16:56] <khalidmian> ct529: click button in the following browser and choose application you want to use as default to browse
[16:57] <khalidmian> genii: i have a centrino duo
[16:57] <ct529> khalidmian: yes, I know I can do that .... I am asking *why* did kubuntu set firefox as default browser when I never selected it
[16:57] <khalidmian> genii: which is different from core 2 duo
[16:58] <khalidmian> ct529: no clue mate
[16:58] <genii> khalidmian: So what is: [11:45:13] <khalidmian>     * Intel® Core™2 Duo processor T5500 (1.66GHz, 667MHz FSB, L1 Cache 32KB/32KB, L2 Cache 2MB)
[16:58] <jpedroza> helpdesk: Try in #qemu channel
[16:58] <helpdesk> jpedroza: is there a linux kernel channel?
[16:59] <dr_Willis> I recall a #kernel from ages ago
[16:59] <khalidmian> genii: i tried installing kubuntu 64 bit as wubi install under my vista which is a 32 bit installtion and kubuntu didnt work
[16:59] <jpedroza> helpdesk: yes, it is #kernel
[16:59] <jpedroza> helpdesk: Not sure how active it is
[17:00] <ct529> khalidmian: are you running windows at the moment?
[17:00] <helpdesk> jpedroza: ever tried writing one?
[17:00] <jpedroza> helpdesk: A kernel?
[17:00] <charles> hello everyone, I have a couple of quick questions
[17:00] <helpdesk> jpedroza: yeah. i am writing mine but there are few problems and dont know who to report to
[17:01] <charles> first, does anyone know why I have to go into display settings to get my screen res right in kde 4.2?
[17:01] <khalidmian> ct529: no im on kubuntu at the moment
[17:01] <charles> I do this every time I log on
[17:01] <tyler_d> !msgmerge
[17:01] <tyler_d> !kdiff3
[17:01] <jpedroza> helpdesk: I have compiled kernels from src before, but not in a very long time.
[17:02] <jpedroza> charles: need some more info, what video drivers, etc.
[17:02] <charles> ati fglrx
[17:02] <khalidmian> should i wait for windows 7 and get an iso for that or just not bother and then a vista cd for the virtual box
[17:03] <charles> I've wiped out the .kde directory configs everything that I can think of to get it to work
[17:03] <jpedroza> charles: I use NVIDIA, so I'm not much help. When you change the resolution, do you write those changes back to xorg?
[17:03] <charles> reconfigured X11
[17:04] <helpdesk> can i report my errors to the maintainers directory ?
[17:04] <khalidmian> wohoo i have the beta win7 cd should i install that in virtual box? any recomendations?
[17:04] <charles> hmmm, it did it a while ago while I was on nvidia as well
[17:04] <dr_Willis> khalidmian,  do what you want. :) this is linux.. we dont force you  to do things  like.. err.. the Makers of Windows7 :)
[17:04] <charles> ahhh well, no worries thank you for offering
[17:04] <dr_Willis> khalidmian,  and i am testing Windows7 on this box for a while..   :P figured i would test it befor i reformated it for linux
[17:05] <jpedroza> khalidmian: I have had major issues getting Windows Vista working in VirtualBox. I reverted back to XP.
[17:05] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: im thinking of ways to have kubuntu as main o/s and windows installed in virtual box scenario
[17:06] <khalidmian> jpedroza: what issues did u face
[17:06] <jpedroza> khalidmian: Not sure if it still does, but for a while putting Vista on virtualized environment violated EULA.
[17:06] <jpedroza> khalidmian: Mostly had the install for Adobe CS 3, but could never get installers to work correctly. Running applications failed frequently as well.
[17:06] <dr_Willis> I think MS changed that EULA  - Like anyone would ever bother to 'follow' the eula anyway.
[17:06] <khalidmian> jpedroza: i dont think i have xp anymore
[17:07] <dr_Willis> I got XP set up for virtualbox. but never use it much
[17:07] <khalidmian> jpedroza: i only need it for itunes/iphone sync nothing more
[17:07] <khalidmian> screw ms eula violation
[17:07] <jpedroza> khalidmian: Never tried iTunes under VirtualBox, and I have Verizon. :)
[17:07] <ct529> khalidmian: if you do cpuid it will show you the detailed characteristics of your CPU
[17:08] <khalidmian> hmmm
[17:08] <jpedroza> khalidmian: As I recall, I did have trouble with USB passthrough as well, hence the reverting to XP. It works fine now.
[17:09] <ct529> khalidmian: apt-get install cpuid
[17:09] <khalidmian> jpedroza: that sucks i dont have xp
[17:10] <khalidmian> ct529: Extended brand string: "Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU         T5500  @ 1.66GHz"
[17:11] <jpedroza> khalidmian: Not sure if Crossover supports iTunes and sync to iPhone. Might be worth looking into
[17:11] <ct529> khalidmian: it should give you also more information about supported stuff
[17:12] <khalidmian> i was hoping to get rid of windows and run kubuntu and have vista under virtual box :(
[17:12] <ct529> khalidmian: I have to say that the new output for cpuid is real crap .... the previous format was much better!
[17:12] <ct529> khalidmian: yes, you can .... why not?
[17:12] <khalidmian> jpedroza says he/she was having problems
[17:12] <ct529> khalidmian: well,at least I think so .... but you may have some licensing issues there
[17:13] <khalidmian> who gives a rats ass about microsoft licencing
[17:13] <ct529> khalidmian: I think vista EULA explicitly says you cannot run it in a virtual machine .... but please check ....
[17:13]  * jpedroza is a he
[17:13] <jpedroza> :)
[17:13] <ct529> khalidmian: is it 64bit?
[17:13] <khalidmian> i just want usb support for syncing my iphone with itunes under windows as i do not want to jailbreak my iphone
[17:14] <ct529> khalidmian: can you not install itunes under linux using wine?
[17:14] <dr_Willis> !itunes
[17:14] <khalidmian> ct529: doesnt matter as ill have to buy cd/dvd i doubt ill be able to get one for xp now
[17:15] <cjae> !cube
[17:15] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: non sync iphone
[17:16] <cjae> does kwin only let you pick setting within the advanced desktop setting that are compatible with with each other?
[17:17] <dr_Willis> I care little about iphones.. or anything else from That company :)
[17:18] <ct529> dr_Willis: what a silly help! the best itune alternative is actually amarok .... this is kubuntu not ubuntu ....
[17:18] <dr_Willis> cjae,  i recalls eeing some 'warnings' if you selected 2 that for example had conflicting shortcuts
[17:18] <ct529> dr_Willis: not you of course, the ubotu thingy
[17:18] <ct529> !amarok
[17:18] <dr_Willis> ct529,  :) I wouldtne have an iPhone if they gave them away. :) i got my own touch-screen phone. heh.
[17:19] <cjae> anyone got the cube working with just kwin?
[17:19] <dr_Willis> Some of these package descritions are so filled with meaningless buzzsords...
[17:19] <ct529> how do we modify the output of ubotu? some of the answers are very unhelpful
[17:19] <cjae> I do have 4  desktops enabled as well
[17:19] <dr_Willis> 'it has an Intuitive interface' - as opposed to every other app out? or what? :)
[17:19] <dr_Willis> !bot
[17:20] <dr_Willis> You submit a new factoid/change and some how it gets voted on
[17:20] <ct529> dr_Willis: what touch phone? I am looking for one with a linux / qt interface!
[17:20] <ct529> dr_Willis: thanks!
[17:20] <Lynx-O> anyone know how i can set firefox as my deafult browser?
[17:20] <dr_Willis> Got a new one by LG - its got a touch screen and a few buttons.
[17:20] <dr_Willis> not linux, - but it does play videos well :)
[17:21] <ct529> grrrr ..... why did my kubuntu set firefox as default browser, and how do I reset the bloody thing? I want konqueror
[17:21] <Lynx-O> ct529: kubuntu knows best
[17:21] <Lynx-O> xD
[17:21] <cjae> crtl f11? thought it was crtl alt <- or ->
[17:21] <ct529> Lynx-O: I do not give a .... about what kubuntu knows .... I want konqueror
[17:22] <dr_Willis> ct529,  i noticed when i had KDE and gnome both installed.. the 2 often conflcted with what was defults. Silly things both were using each others 'defaults' for some reason
[17:22] <dr_Willis> and i mean the default for the 'file manager' :) both decided to start using rox-filer.
[17:22] <dr_Willis> Still not sure how that happend
[17:22] <Lynx-O> dr_Willis: </3 Gnome
[17:23] <dr_Willis> dependng on which location menu item i used in gnome.. nautilus would launch.. or rox-filer would launch
[17:23] <ct529> mmmm .... it only happens with konversation .... :( let's see ...
[17:23] <dr_Willis>  ls -l /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser
[17:23] <dr_Willis> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 18 2009-01-06 20:33 /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/konqueror*
[17:23] <dr_Willis> willis@black:/etc/alternatives(0 Mb)$
[17:23] <cjae> why does it set wrong key binding by default?
[17:24] <cjae> got it working now
[17:24] <dr_Willis> in theory a you could set the app to use 'x-www-browser' and it would use the system default browser
[17:24] <cjae> doesn't seem very smooth though
[17:24] <Lynx-O> i let my girlfriend on my laptop and she closed the desktop how do i get i tback xD
[17:25] <dr_Willis> If you mean the 'desktop icons' in a window - its some Plasmid applet
[17:26] <failers> why isnt samba automaticly installed
[17:26] <failers> its kinda important isnt it :o
[17:27] <dr_Willis> !find vym
[17:27] <dr_Willis> it can be - or uit can be useless
[17:27] <dr_Willis> Ubuntu takes a very 'locked' down by default  apprioach
[17:28] <dr_Willis> SSH is not isntalled by default either.. only  a select few sericces are installed by default
[17:28] <dr_Willis> gnome and kde both can 'browse' the windows network ans shares without samba being installed..
[17:28] <failers> :o
[17:29] <failers> well when i right click on a folder and go to share nothing happends and i googled a bit and found out it was samba thats missing
[17:29] <failers> but please tell me if there is an faster/easyer way :P
[17:29] <dr_Willis> its 'supposed' to pop up a dialog and ask to install samba
[17:29] <dr_Willis> but i always install samba manually as part of my normal setup.
[17:29] <dr_Willis> 'sudo apt-get install samba'
[17:29] <dr_Willis> then edit /etc/samba/smb.conf to set your workgroup
[17:30] <hairy918> hello, all - anybody done ldap authentication? Have locations changed between 8.10 and 7.04? I'm running 7.04 ubuntu server as ldap server, 8.10 as client.
[17:30] <failers> oki
[17:30] <dr_Willis> i NEVER use that 'let the users share a thing arbitarly' system :)
[17:31] <dr_Willis> i alwys share the users 'home' directory
[17:31] <failers> btw dr_Willis i have done as you told i got my sda2 and sdb1 "mounted" in /media/ but they dont mount on boot only if i for example go into dolphin and click on them they get mounted is there a way to mount on boot?
[17:31] <failers> i was going to share a new folder in home but
[17:31] <failers> ^
[17:32] <dr_Willis> failers,  check your entries in /etc/fstab they are incorrect sounds like
[17:32] <failers> hm ok
[17:33] <failers> dr_Willis: they arent added there at all :P
[17:34] <failers> only got my root and swap in there
[17:34] <altrortla> !windows
[17:35] <failers> !fstab
[17:35] <dr_Willis> failers,  im not sure what you did befor.. but if you want them to mount at boot time = you add proper entry to fstab
[17:35] <a> hi
[17:35] <a> Hi everybody
[17:37] <a> can I ask technical questions here
[17:37] <a> hi hi anybody ?
[17:37] <dr_Willis> ask and see -- getting answeres.. may be harder
[17:37] <a> hi !
[17:37] <a> hi dr willis
[17:38] <dr_Willis> Theres no need to say Hi - 10x times :)
[17:38] <a> i have installed firefox 3.0.5; the latest version
[17:39] <a> but the browser has covered all the task bar and leaving no exit to assess the bar besides closing the browser
[17:40] <hairy918> I'm pretty sure I've got the client ldap set up the same as a working 7.04 install, but 'getent passwd' on the client just returns the client's passwd
[17:40] <dr_Willis> right click on the taskbar thing and try move/maxamize/whatever...  or alt-click on the window and move it around
[17:40] <a> I tried to call the browser through command prompt and it run ok
[17:40] <a> but this happened again if i call the browser through application launcher
[17:41] <failers> at mount point i just use /boot ?
[17:41] <a> could I know how to fix it
[17:41] <dr_Willis> failers,  What are you wanting to mount to /boot ?   /boot is a very special place..
[17:41] <khalidmian> jpedroza: do u recommended xp professional?
[17:42] <failers> dr_Willis: uhm i though /boot would make it mount ON boot not at /boot :P
[17:42] <a> the problem is I can't even see the task bar
[17:42] <dr_Willis>  /boot is a directorry
[17:42] <a> it was all covered up by the browser
[17:42] <failers> oh so just by adding it at all in fstab makes it mount when i boot
[17:43] <DreadKnight> does intrepid still doesn't works with bluetooth audio devices (headsets) ?
[17:43] <dr_Willis> a proper line in the fstab WILL get mounted at boot. the 'noauto' option in the fstab line options - makes a place NOT get mounted at boot
[17:43] <DreadKnight> *
[17:43] <failers> dr_Willis:  ah ok thanks , now i get it :)
[17:44] <dr_Willis> Mounting filesystems and fstab are doucmented in 10000+s of places.. :)
[17:44] <dr_Willis> Literally - its documeted all over the place ;)
[17:44] <a> Hi
[17:46] <hairy918> However, I do have a question - 'modern' fstabs have things like 'UUID=9911c8d0 / ext3' and so on, instead of just the dev. What's the deal?
[17:47] <dr_Willis> !uuid
[17:47] <a> Hi Hi
[17:47] <dr_Willis> UUID is a random/unique # for a specific drive/filesystem. that can solve a lot of problems
[17:48] <hairy918> cool, thx, I'll look
[17:48] <dr_Willis> even grub can use UUID type info  on many disrtos
[17:48] <dr_Willis> You can also mount based on LABEL or other Information
[17:48] <genii> Yes, sort of like MAC addresses for hard drives
[17:48] <dr_Willis> which is wha ti do
[17:48] <jpedroza> khalidmian: I use XP Pro, but I have also used Media Center in VirtualBox
[17:48] <dr_Willis> You can change the UUID. :) its some how generated when the filesytem is made.
[17:49] <failers> i just used the command "ls -l /dev/disk/by-uuid" to get my uuid's
[17:49] <dr_Willis> failers,  theres a dozen ways to do it. :)
[17:49] <failers> :P
[17:49] <dr_Willis> Thats common 'linux' -> always 12 way to do somthing
[17:49] <dr_Willis> Hmm is       us.archive.ubuntu.com    down for anyone else?
[17:50] <failers> nope not me
[17:50] <failers> working for me
[17:50] <failers> but anyway reboot now time to check if i made it right this time in fstab ^
[17:50] <dr_Willis> 99% [Connecting to us.archive.ubuntu.com (91.189.88.31)]
[17:50] <dr_Willis> and its just hanging...
[17:50] <a> bye everyone!
[17:50] <genii> dr_Willis: The archive is surfable here
[17:51] <a> Thanks
[17:52] <dr_Willis> there we go.. I removed the us. in the sources.list :)
[17:52] <dr_Willis> Must of been some glitz
[17:53] <DreadKnight> dr_Willis: you could have changed your server...
[17:54] <dr_Willis> One machine was working with us.whatever.. other wasent...
[17:54] <dr_Willis> us.archive -> is a random server?
[17:55] <DreadKnight> dr_Willis: might be some sort of cluster... not sure
[17:55] <Lynx-O> anyone know of a 3d program for linux?
[17:56] <DreadKnight> Lynx-O: blender.org it's the fucking best creation tool ever
[17:56] <Lynx-O> ok
[17:56] <failers> succes they now mount on boot ^
[17:56] <failers> ^^
[17:57] <DreadKnight> Lynx-O: it's in repository, but you usually find a more recent version (binary) on getdeb.net
[17:58] <dr_Willis> failers,  and you are suprised at this? :)
[18:00] <failers> well i mostly break things when i edit them but this time i think its actually working :D
[18:03] <claudio__> does anyone know why when i am listening music my home cinema 5.1 doesn't function,
[18:03] <claudio__> how could i make it work
[18:04] <ahmed> Hi ther!
[18:04] <ahmed> there**
[18:04] <dr_Willis> are you sure the source/video is 5.1 sound?
[18:06] <uman> Hi everyone. I just got out of a huge problem yesterday, by reinstalling grub and being able to boot ubuntu 8.10 again. Unfortunately though, after being able to back into ubuntu and installing a new kernel Ive been having terrible problems. After a few minutes of logging in, i get abruptely logge out and have to log back in (so all my apps are closed). Then, after a few more minutes my computer freezes. The screen freezes completely, the clock stops running
[18:06] <uman> and i cant use the mouse or keyboard. Any idea what could be causing this and if I should downgrade my kernel and if so how? Thanks in advance, I hope i get help before my pc freeezes again.
[18:06] <claudio__> yes
[18:06] <claudio__> i am sure
[18:06] <claudio__> but i heard just 2 of 5
[18:12] <dr_Willis> Normally the last 2 or 3 kenels have entries in the grub menu.. just reboot and select the older one
[18:13] <DreadKnight> anyone has bluetooth audio working in intrepid/kde4.2 ?
[18:14] <claudio__> how can i modify my sound ,so make it work with a sistem sound 5.1
[18:14] <KORBEN_X64> hi
[18:14] <claudio__> hi
[18:16] <KORBEN_X64> somebody have problems with 8.10 and wpa/wpa2 wireless?
[18:17] <failers> nope works fine for me
[18:17] <failers> sitting right now with wpa / wireless
[18:17] <KORBEN_X64> mine drops the link after 2-3 minutes and then it reconnects again
[18:17] <jpedroza> Ditto, using wireless with WPA2
[18:18] <failers> KORBEN_X64: what kind of router you got?
[18:18] <KORBEN_X64> an airport extreme base station
[18:18] <KORBEN_X64> it works fine with sabayon 4
[18:18] <mailus> Salve
[18:20] <failers> KORBEN_X64: no idea then if its working on sabayon
[18:20] <KORBEN_X64> that's it... no clues about that... :(
[18:21] <ogre> wondering how to get rid of "recently used" list from plasma panel. any ideas?
[18:21] <KORBEN_X64> and i don't want to use sabayon, because it refuses tu detect my hsdpa usb modem
[18:21] <Inkubo> fuck!
[18:21] <p_quarles> !ohmy | Inkubo
[18:22] <Inkubo> FUCK!
[18:22] <p_quarles> !ops
[18:22] <failers> ;o
[18:22] <ogre> that was quick
[18:23] <KORBEN_X64> indeed
[18:25] <failers> !samba
[18:26] <marek_> hi, i have a serious problem, when i try to login, screen flickers, and then i see loginbox again, can you help me?
[18:27] <KORBEN_X64> marek_:is it a graphical login? i mean... kdm or something like that?
[18:28] <marek_> yes, kdm is on
[18:28] <marek_> i just cannot login
[18:28] <KORBEN_X64> wich window manager are you using
[18:28] <marek_> kwin
[18:29] <rickest> check /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:29] <kottlett> marek_: check e.g. if the user home directory is set correctly, and the user has write access to it
[18:29] <KORBEN_X64> that's it :)
[18:29] <marek_> kottlett how can i check it? la -al /home/zbyszek?
[18:30] <ogre> anyone have any idea how to get rid of "recently used" item from panel? intrepid kde4
[18:31] <kottlett> marek_: yes, for example
[18:31] <marek_> well it seems to be ok, at least i have read access to .kde filse
[18:31] <marek_> but i created another user
[18:31] <KORBEN_X64> also check /var/kdm.log
[18:32] <marek_> and now i can login correctly, so there must be something wrong with it kottlett
[18:32] <marek_> KORBEN_X64 kottlett can i chmod all my home folder?
[18:33] <KORBEN_X64> i suppose it could be done
[18:33] <marek_> ok i will give it a try
[18:34] <marek_> btw, do you know any video converter / coder that will work well with mutithreading? i have quad core CPU,m but when i compress my movies to xvid, only one core is working...
[18:34] <marek_> with avidemux
[18:35] <nomeutente94> hello!
[18:36] <nomeutente94> sorry, but i'm look for italian channel
[18:38] <Tm_T> !it | nomeutente94
[18:40] <nomeutente94> i'm looking for the KUBUNTU channel not ubuntu
[18:40] <nomeutente94> !!!!!!!!!
[18:40] <nomeutente94> !it
[18:40] <pinda> Hello, quick question: are the nvidia proprietary drivers supposed to work with jaunty?
[18:40] <nomeutente94> yes pinda
[18:40] <failers> hm when using samba i can see my windows computer and myself on network but when going to the windows computer i dont see the samba/kubuntu computer whats wrong :P ?
[18:41] <failers> oh lol nvm a second restart on samba solved it
[18:43] <_KORBEN_> ouch
[18:43] <pinda> nomeutente94: ok, because I installed nvidia-glx-180 and I'm still running on "nv", but maybe I'll need to manually configure?
[18:43] <failers> _KORBEN_:  internet disconnected you now :/ ?
[18:43] <failers> like you said
[18:43] <_KORBEN_> i am not on wifi right now
[18:43] <failers> oki
[18:43] <_KORBEN_> hsdpa modem
[18:44] <_KORBEN_> but i checked /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log
[18:44] <failers> ye thats what i was just going to say isnt there a wifi crash log somewhere :P
[18:44] <pinda> nomeutente94: my xorg log has the following entry: (EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)
[18:45] <failers> pinda: you might need to reinstall the nvidia drivers
[18:45] <_KORBEN_> sorry.. the phone
[18:45] <failers> you downloaded them thru propreitary drivers or from nvidia.com
[18:45] <nomeutente94> failers you are right
[18:45] <_KORBEN_> as i said, i checked out /var/log/wpa_supplicant.log
[18:46] <pinda> failers: I installed them from the repo first, after I discovered that didn't work I downloaded the 180 driver from nvidia.com and tried that
[18:46] <_KORBEN_> and it logged some: "disconnection event received" lines... interesting...
[18:47] <pinda> failers: maybe some conflicting stuff left, and maybe my first install was unfortunately timed? when I installed jaunty there has just been some X breakage
[18:48] <failers> pinda: well if its the same as it was for me the propreitary drivers conflicted with those from nvidia so i had to completly remove nvidia drivers and just use vesa or something while doing it and then use the 180 from nvidia
[18:49] <_KORBEN_> pinda: there is a little utility to install nvidia drivers
[18:49] <pinda> failers: are you currently using the nvidia drivers from nvidia.com or the one from the repo?
[18:49] <failers> nvidia.com
[18:49] <failers> version 180.27
[18:49] <_KORBEN_> Applications->System->Hardware Drivers
[18:50] <_KORBEN_> and push the "Enable propietary drivers"
[18:50] <pinda> _KORBEN_: I didn't know that, looks slick
[18:51] <pinda> failers: I'll try something from the repo first, in the past I always had issues where updates broke my x setup when I used the nvidia.com drivers
[18:51] <_KORBEN_> well.. i didn't used it the first time, and did it manually... it became some sort of a headache
[18:52] <pinda> failers, _KORBER_: thanks for the help
[18:52] <_KORBEN_> but as i discovered that little thing... it went reasonably right
[18:52] <_KORBEN_> :)
[18:52] <failers> pinda: ye do that if you cant get it working as you want i suggest you apt-get remove nvidia-glx linux-restricted-modules packages  , and then install the nvidia.com drivers
[18:53] <pinda> failers: I'll try that if the repo still gives me problems, thanks for the suggestion
[18:58] <failers> hm why doesnt my quicklaunch in kde 4.2 save, after next restart of kde it adds 3 icons i remove everytime
[19:01] <KORBEN_X64> for those that have perfomance issues with 177 NVIDIA drivers: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088
[19:02] <KORBEN_X64> going to try... crossing fingers right now xDD
[19:03] <failers> KORBEN_X64: all my perfomance issues disapeared when i got 180.27 driver
[19:04] <zaka> yoyoyoyo
[19:04] <KORBEN_X64> i suppose it isn't the one from the repo, aren't they?
[19:04] <failers> nope
[19:04] <KORBEN_X64> i see
[19:04] <failers> ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/180.27/
[19:04] <KORBEN_X64> i am using the repo ones
[19:04] <failers> :P
[19:05] <KORBEN_X64> i know i know... ;)
[19:05] <failers> but i do have some graphical bugs here and there
[19:05] <failers> dont know if its the same in older drivers but atleast the performance is high ;P
[19:06] <pinda> KORBEN_X64: That driver utility is nifty, it works perfectly
[19:08] <zaka> i have 1 question XD why i have javascript problems on youtube.com or ebay.com  this site don't see javascript but other yes
[19:08] <KORBEN_X64> pinda: be aware... it installs the 177 beta driver... i got some perfomance issues with it
[19:08] <KORBEN_X64> install the 180 as soon as you can ;)
[19:10] <pinda> KORBEN_X64: Hmm, it offered me the choice between 173, 177 and 180
[19:12] <KORBEN_X64> then go and install 180
[19:12] <KORBEN_X64> by the way... i just fixed my perfomance issues... at last :D
[19:14] <KORBEN_X64> going to kill X and restart... crossing fingers again ;)
[19:16] <altrortla> Sorry... was out of my controll
[19:17] <skandhal> salut a tous
[19:17] <_KORBEN_> wow... it worked!!! :D
[19:18] <skandhal> j'ai un petit probleme sous Kdevelop quelqu'un pense pouvoir me venir en aide? (ce n'est pas une question de prog)
[19:18] <altrortla> !fr | skandhal
[19:18] <failers> _KORBEN_: gz :)
[19:19] <skandhal> ok, sorry. I'm a newbie on IRC ^^
[19:19] <jenda> ahoj, poradite mi nekdo co se skypem kdyz mi u nej nejde mikrak? v kmixu je vse dobre nastaveno a nejde to :(
[19:19] <altrortla> skandhal: no problem buddy
[19:20] <failers> !cz | jenda
[19:23] <failers> hmm anyone here with some fstab knowledge?
[19:24] <failers> "UUID=2A1CC79F1CC76483 /media/Data ntfs ro,umask=0222 0 0" doesnt seem to give me permission to edit files on it
[19:24] <siegie_> Is there anyone who can get strigi working. I've tried it in intrepid and even in jaunty
[19:29] <Cruster> is there any channel for jaunty?
[19:30] <SlimeyPete> Cruster: #ubuntu+1
[19:30] <Cruster> thanks
[19:34] <admint> de que se trata
[19:36] <ogre> anyone have any idea how to get rid of "recently used" item from panel? intrepid kde4
[19:43] <failers> god how annoying everytime i restart x server my quicklaunch on the main panel restore 3 icons i remove :P
[19:55] <failers> is there some kind of device manager like in windows so that i can check if some hardware aint installed properly
[20:01] <martijn81> failers: no there is not afaik
[20:02] <siekacz> strigi fails to start - KDE 4.2.0
[20:03] <siekacz> I got a warning and segfault
[20:03] <siekacz> WARNING: field 'http://strigi.sf.net/ontologies/0.9#debugParseError' is not defined in any rdfs ontology database.
[20:03] <siekacz> Segmentation fault
[20:12] <jordyD> Hi, whenever I try to sign into Google Talk with Kopete, I get this message: "
[20:12] <jordyD>  prefs then I have this in the PREF cookie from google.se (setting part): LR=lang_sv:LD=sv:NR=50:NW=1
[20:12] <jordyD> (there is only a PREF cookie for the settings)
[20:12] <jordyD> "
[20:14] <jordyD> I read that I needed qca-tls, and qca2-plugin-ossl to use Google Talk, but after installing them, there is no change.
[20:15] <jordyD> Sorry about that, I had the wrong text copied.
[20:16] <bitmonster> hi
[20:16] <jordyD> I got /this/ error message: "There was an error authenticating with the server: Login failed with unknown reason."
[20:16] <bitmonster> can anyone help me how to install new programs with apt-get install in my home directory and not in / ?
[20:21] <siekacz> bitmonster: apt-get installs programs only in /
[20:22] <zaka> anybody from poland?
[20:23] <jussi01> !pl
[20:23] <bitmonster> siekacz: that's bad since my /home is so large and / so small :-(
[20:24] <siekacz> zaka: tak :)
[20:25] <siekacz> bitmonster: you can resize partitions but it is difficult and quite dangerous
[20:26] <bitmonster> siekacz: well, i have one small internal ide hdd , and a large hdd external
[20:28] <tkhobbes> Hello all - I just switched over from Gentoo.... and now, I am missing quite a few bits and pieces. For example - can someone point me towards some descriptions on repositories? I wanted to install the Adobe reader and could not find it in synaptic
[20:28] <failers> !repo
[20:29] <tkhobbes> also, I am kind of lost in KDE 4.... I am missing quite a few menu-entries, although the programs are installed (e. g. kgrubconfig)
[20:29] <tkhobbes> ubottu: thanks
[20:30] <siekacz> tkhobbes: what version of KDE do you use?
[20:30] <puto> is it possible to change KDE's selected widget style without actually running KDE?
[20:30] <puto> (so that if I run an occasional KDE application, it won't use oxygen)
[20:31] <siekacz> qtconfig :)
[20:31] <puto> that only works on pure qt apps
[20:31] <puto> not on actual kde apps
[20:33] <tkhobbes> so - how to convert old kde menus into kde4 menus? i. e. what do I need to do in order to have all menues back?
[20:35] <failers> tkhobbes: you mean change the appearence of the kde 4 menu to look like the old one?
[20:35] <failers> if thats so right click on it and switch to classic
[20:36] <tkhobbes> failers: no - it seems to me that I don't have all programs in the menu that I have installed
[20:36] <tkhobbes> in the old kde, I remember that I sometimes had to set up these .desktop files
[20:37] <failers> well there is  some kind of tool called kappfinder in kmenu->settings->Menu Updating Tool , but i have never used it
[20:38] <tkhobbes> failers: thanks - I just noticed something
[20:39] <tkhobbes> one should look CLOSELY at the different menu entries :)
[20:40] <failers> :P
[20:40] <tkhobbes> final question - firefox looks kind of ugly in kubuntu 8.10 - especially the tabs.... how do I fix that?
[20:40] <failers> you got nvidia?
[20:40] <tkhobbes> yes
[20:41] <failers> then thats the problem
[20:41] <failers> or atleast what the kde devs says
[20:41] <tkhobbes> oh - I would have guessed it's some kind of QT / GTK thingy...
[20:41] <failers> or depends on what you mean with ugly
[20:42] <tkhobbes> well - just underneath the "tab bar", where you would find only a narrow line usually, there is some kind of a big line.... (gosh, how to explain this...)
[20:42] <failers> screenshot :P
[20:42] <cbwcjw> tkhobbes: Screenshot :)
[20:43] <failers> a picture can say more then 1000 words
[20:43] <failers> ^^
[20:43] <tkhobbes> failers: yeah, right
[20:45] <zer0o> hi guys, using the "find a file..." funcion in storage media i get this message "Malformed URL media:/." what does it mean? how do i fix it? and how can i find a file considering that usually this function doesnt really work, thanks
[20:46] <tkhobbes> failers, cbwcjw: here you go: http://www.hobbes.ch/firefox-kubuntu-ugly.png
[20:46] <cbwcjw> Oh, that thing
[20:47] <cbwcjw> tkhobbes http://forum.kde.org/how-to-integrate-firefox-into-kde-t-17786.html
[20:47] <failers> tkhobbes:  this is how mine looks like http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6705/snapshot1yd3.png
[20:47] <failers> i only got minor graphical bugs not like yours :P
[20:47] <cbwcjw> emote chttp://img87.imageshack.us/img87/6705/snapshot1yd3.png
[20:47] <cbwcjw> eeek! stupid irssi
[20:48] <cbwcjw> (console irc client ftl)
[20:48] <failers> hehe
[20:48] <tkhobbes> thanks, guys - I KNEW there must be something around.... need to find my way around the forums first.... Gentoo was.... different ;)
[20:48] <siekacz> tkhobbes:  https://addons.mozilla.org/pl/firefox/downloads/file/34967/kde4_+_firefox3-0.13-fx.jar - install this extension i firefox
[20:48] <siekacz> *in firefox
[20:48] <skorpz> bonsoir
[20:49] <failers> !fr | skorpz
[20:49] <failers> or is bonsoir french
[20:49] <failers> :o
[20:49] <skorpz> oops
[20:49] <tkhobbes> siekacz: I assume it's pretty stable although marked as alpha?
[20:50] <siekacz> tkhobbes: it's stable
[20:50] <tkhobbes> thx
[20:50] <siekacz> but looks like KDE 4.1 not 4.2 :)
[20:50] <tkhobbes> I still have 4.1
[20:51] <siekacz> i use 4.2 since beta1
[20:51] <failers> isnt 4.2 out of beta stage
[20:51] <tkhobbes> AHA - now THAT's a difference :)
[20:53] <siekacz> no 4.2.0 is quite stable
[20:53] <siekacz> *now
[20:53] <siekacz> but i still can't run strigi
[20:53] <siekacz> i have this problem since 4.1
[20:54] <siekacz> maybe it's wrong configuration?
[20:54] <failers> i dont even know what strigi is :P
[20:54] <siekacz> bartosz@bartosz-desktop:~$ strigidaemon
[20:54] <siekacz> WARNING: field 'http://strigi.sf.net/ontologies/0.9#debugParseError' is not defined in any rdfs ontology database.
[20:54] <siekacz> Segmentation fault
[20:55] <siekacz> failers: desktop search module for KDE
[20:56] <siekacz> and when i run KDETwitter plasma crashes :/
[20:56] <adalgiso> siekacz: i have that same problem
[20:56] <adalgiso> when i try to configure my username/pw
[20:57] <siekacz> yes, that's it
[20:57] <siekacz> packages from kubuntu-experimental?
[20:57] <dwidmann> Hmm, curiosity question, why is it that my Xorg is using 470M of memory (according to ksysguard (or 500M according to htop)
[20:58] <siekacz> KDE is pretty good, but these 2 problems are so annoying...
[20:58] <adalgiso> i love this version
[20:58] <adalgiso> aside from wierd plasma problems
[20:59] <adalgiso> i can't get my touchpad working properly on my macbook pro :(
[20:59] <siekacz> I can't wait for 4.3! :)
[20:59] <failers> kde just made linux so god d*** awesome exept the graphical bugs that occurs on nvidia cards :P
[20:59] <siekacz> kde 4 is not finished
[21:00] <siekacz> so there are many problems else
[21:00] <thismamacooks200> IRC problem, I keep getting the same error box every few seconds. It creates thousands of message boxes if I don't close them. "Unknown message somename@sbcglobal.net The IRC server received a message it did not understand "
[21:00] <dwidmann> siekacz: certainly getting there though :)
[21:00] <failers> thismamacooks200: wich irc client do you use?
[21:01] <thismamacooks200> failers: pidgin
[21:01] <siekacz> but KDE will be much better than Win7 or Gnome
[21:01] <adalgiso> not going to lie, i like win7 a lot
[21:01] <failers> kde is better than win7 and gnome
[21:01] <adalgiso> isntaled it on my desktop
[21:02] <siekacz> win7 is quite good, but it's still "better vista" :)
[21:02] <dwidmann> therefore, kde will just have to become that much better than kde :)
[21:03] <adalgiso> anyone have any experience with *nix on macbook pros?
[21:03]  * siekacz has never used macbook :)
[21:03]  * astromme has never owned a macbook 
[21:04] <siekacz> in my country, Apple is too expensive for everyone :)
[21:04] <thismamacooks200> in my country too
[21:06] <siekacz> thismamacooks200: where are you from? :)
[21:06] <thismamacooks200> USA
[21:07] <adalgiso> in soviet russia, apple buys you
[21:07] <siekacz> I live near russia
[21:07] <adalgiso> on the european or asian side?
[21:08] <siekacz> adalgiso: Poland :)
[21:08] <adalgiso> heh
[21:09] <marek_> hi, i have ripped my old family vhs but sound is about 2 second behind video, which app can fix it?
[21:10] <siekacz> marek_: I see you're from poland so #ubuntu-pl :)
[21:10] <adalgiso> I think Kino comes built in
[21:12] <siekacz> I think canonical should change from gnome to KDE
[21:12] <adalgiso> marek_: I see Cinelerra too, http://www.linux.com/feature/60624
[21:13] <adalgiso> firefox is crashing on me constantly :/
[21:13] <thismamacooks200> they do KDE already, its called Kubuntu. I want them to stay with Gnome. KDE has always been problematic. Now KDE4 is a disaster
[21:14] <siekacz> kde brings something new to Linux
[21:15] <athlon1>  Talking about kde... I'use kubuntu 8.04 (kde3), It works fine. I've been testing kubuntu 8.10 (kde4) and I have many problems. Can any tell me if ku 8.10 with kde4 is working fine?
[21:15] <siekacz> athlon1: 9.04 should work quite good
[21:16] <athlon1> Tried also with kde 4.2, but also with problems...
[21:16] <Tm_T> athlon1: works fine here
[21:16] <siekacz> athlon1: as you said you are still using 8.04
[21:16] <adalgiso> athlon1:  I'm having sporadic problems
[21:16] <adben> 4.2
[21:16] <adben> some problems but ... delicious
[21:17] <athlon1> Yes, I use 8.04 and try to migrate to 8.10, but not until solved problems...
[21:17] <adalgiso> athlon1: plasma crashes when using certain widgets, firefox crashing constantly, problems with my touchpad (damn apple, not necessarily KDE 4.3 problem)
[21:17] <siekacz> KDE 4.4 should be perfect DE
[21:17] <Tm_T> adalgiso: I have none of those issues here (:)
[21:18] <adben> when 4,4?
[21:18] <adalgiso> Tm_T: i'm jealous :)
[21:18] <athlon1> kde 4.4??? But when is going to be that?
[21:18] <athlon1> kde 4.2 is experimental....
[21:18] <adben> not so experimental
[21:19] <cdpuk> Anyone know where to bind multimedia keys? E.g XF86Calculator -> speedcrunch (KDE4.1)
[21:19] <adalgiso> according to the KDE website, athlon1, 4.2 is their latest stable
[21:20] <siekacz> 4.4? i think it shold be released on the begining of 2010
[21:20] <Besitzer> hallo
[21:20] <Besitzer> hello :P
[21:20] <Tm_T> siekacz: you can think so but that is not based on any facts
[21:21] <adalgiso> hello, Besitzer
[21:21] <Besitzer> i cant install kubuntu 8.10... see this: http://images26.fotosik.pl/127/3307b8bd1541d807med.jpg please help :(
[21:21] <siekacz> they release new version after six months
[21:22] <Tm_T> siekacz: that's what we try, about, but it's not the time that defines release times at final level
[21:22] <Tm_T> siekacz: schedules are meant to be changed (;)
[21:22] <failers> its the functionality and bugs that defines release times :P
[21:22] <adalgiso> Besitzer: does that happen when booting the livecd or after installing?
[21:23] <athlon1> Which has been the last kubuntu LTS and wich one is going to be the next?
[21:23] <Besitzer> both
[21:23] <adalgiso> Besitzer: have you tried using the alternate (text-only) install cd?
[21:23] <Tm_T> athlon1: 6.06 and next could be 10.04 or maybe not
[21:23] <adalgiso> Besitzer: it looks like a driver issue - will it let you go to text-only mode?
[21:24] <Besitzer> i have tried  DESKTOP and ALTERNATE cd to boot and to install.. not working.. i have try to "text mode" with "ESC" doesnt work too...
[21:24] <athlon1> Tm_T: thanks.
[21:24] <adalgiso> Bestizer: it looks like the wrong driver was configured for xorg
[21:25] <siekacz> Besitzer: what's your graphics card?
[21:25] <Besitzer> i have "VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 771/671 PCIE VGA Display Adapter"
[21:26] <siekacz> SiS...
[21:26] <Besitzer> the old kubuntu CD is working fine for me (8.04)... but i need 8.10 :S
[21:26] <siekacz> Never worked for me...
[21:26] <zer0o> hi guys, using the "find a file..." funcion in storage media i get this message "Malformed URL media:/." what does it mean? how do i fix it? and how can i find a file considering that usually this function doesnt really work, thanks
[21:28] <siekacz> in 8.10 they removed displayconfig-gtk
[21:28] <siekacz> so it is very difficult to configure xorg
[21:29] <neil__> zer0o: sounds like your DCOP config file is messed up
[21:29] <Besitzer> i can add this to .iso ?
[21:29] <siekacz> Besitzer: it won't work
[21:29] <Besitzer> damn :(
[21:29] <athlon1> zerOo: find is a command of the operating system and media:/ is understood by programs of kde. You have to find it from /media/...
[21:30] <siekacz> in x.org 7.4 they made some changes, so it won't work
[21:30] <neil__> zer0o: If you go into your home folder, and rm -rf .dcop*  I believe it will fix it - perhaps back up .dcop first (cp .dcop .dcop.bak)
[21:30] <Besitzer> but.. ubuntu 8.10 working fine...
[21:30] <siekacz> Besitzer: you used fotosik.pl, ale you from poland?
[21:30] <Besitzer> im from germany
[21:31] <zer0o> neil: i'll try it and get back to u in a min, thanks
[21:31] <Besitzer> this picture i have found by using google..he has the same problem ;)
[21:31] <zer0o> neil: it says "cp: cannot stat `.dcop': No such file or directory"
[21:31] <zer0o> ??
[21:31] <siekacz> SiS won't work good under linux
[21:32] <Besitzer> but ubuntu 8.10 work... kubuntu 8.10 work.. this is *** :(
[21:32] <siekacz> on my laptop, 3D acceleration doesn't work
[21:32] <Besitzer> sry.. i mean ubuntu 8.10 work and kubuntu 8.10 DOESNT work
[21:32] <_mcgrew_> Is there a way with apt to install only dependencies for a package and not the package itself?
[21:32] <Besitzer> ;)
[21:33] <neil__> zer0o: hmm... interesting
[21:33] <neil__> Ah - sorry
[21:33] <neil__> Ignore me
[21:33] <athlon1> Do you know if it's possible to acces mobil by bluetooh as if it were a drive mounted on Media:/. I use ku 8.04 and konqueror shows me bluetooth.
[21:33] <neil__> It'll be .dcop*
[21:33] <neil__> And so not something you can just cp
[21:34] <zer0o> neil__: with the *
[21:34] <zer0o> ah ok
[21:34] <zer0o> so what do i do? :D
[21:34] <neil__> You *should* be fine to remove it without backing it up
[21:35] <neil__> But, not something I've done myself
[21:35] <Besitzer> adalgiso: siekacz  ? any ideas?
[21:35] <failers> zer0o:  what are you trying todo :o
[21:35] <zer0o> the thing is i looked at it in the "storage media" folder and it just doesnt exist
[21:35] <zer0o> the .dcop i mean
[21:35] <siekacz> Besitzer: no ideas :(
[21:35] <neil__> Is it in your ~ (home) folder?
[21:35] <zer0o> failers: using the "find a file..." funcion in storage media i get this message "Malformed URL media:/." what does it mean? how do i fix it? and how can i find a file considering that usually this function doesnt really work
[21:35] <Besitzer> then i most use mandriva... this support my laptop :S
[21:36] <adalgiso> Besitzer: sry, im out of ideas.  The change with xorg 7.4 is new to me, and i'm still trying to figure things out
[21:36] <failers> zer0o: start a terminal and "sudo find /media/ -name FILENAME" ? :o
[21:36] <zer0o> neil__: yes in my home folder i searched it, of course after an ALT + . for the hidden ones, but is not there
[21:36] <neil__> zer0o: sorry - out of ideas
[21:37] <siekacz> Besitzer: so use mandriva if it works
[21:37] <siekacz> it is linux too :)
[21:37] <zer0o> failers: nothing happens
[21:37] <zer0o> neil__: ok thx
[21:37] <athlon1> zer00: Can you mount it. For solving problems of mounting, I mount them in /mnt (can you declare them in fstab?)
[21:37] <Besitzer> yes mandriva works with my laptop and kde 4.1 and kde 4.2 ..^^
[21:37] <siekacz> so if it works - use it :)
[21:37] <zer0o> athlon1: yes sure fstab its well compiled
[21:37] <Besitzer> but i like apt-get =)
[21:37] <zer0o> alright
[21:37] <zer0o> i'll re-google it and c where it gets me
[21:37] <zer0o> thanks
[21:38] <zer0o> bye
[21:39] <Besitzer> and ubuntu with gnome works too but.. gnome sucks...
[21:39] <Besitzer> i hope the developer fix kubuntu in the next release
[21:39] <adalgiso> besitzer: i have used debian in the past, the only thing i dont like is their slow update period
[21:39] <adalgiso> but any debian-based system will use apt
[21:39] <failers> Besitzer install ubuntu sudo apt-get kde and kubuntu base and everythiing :P
[21:39] <failers> and then uninstall gnome
[21:39] <failers> ^
[21:39] <failers> ^^
[21:40] <Besitzer> but its no sultion =D
[21:40] <adalgiso> failers: probably dont want to uninstall gnome, it may break lots of things
[21:40] <failers> ok
[21:40] <siekacz> so install ubuntu server and install KDE :)
[21:40] <Besitzer> lol
[21:41] <Besitzer> and all because kubuntu cd doesnt work.. this is shit..
[21:41] <adalgiso> yeah i dont like this change to xorg
[21:41] <siekacz> now i don't know where are resolution
[21:42] <siekacz> settings
[21:42] <adalgiso> under system settings in the Application menu?
[21:42] <siekacz> yes there is a program to change resolution, but when you want to add resolution...
[21:42] <siekacz> it sucks :]
[21:43] <adalgiso> ahh, do you have restricted drivers installed?
[21:43] <adalgiso> like fglrx or the nvidia drivers?
[21:43] <siekacz> adalgiso: my card is no longer supported by ATi
[21:43] <adalgiso> siekacz: that sucks
[21:43] <siekacz> i have to use ati
[21:43] <siekacz> Radeon 9250 :(
[21:43] <Besitzer> ati and linux lol
[21:43] <Besitzer> =D
[21:43] <adalgiso> can't use fglrx>?
[21:44] <failers> old computers is more lol
[21:44] <Besitzer> ok.. i give up.. and  i use windows xp further...
[21:44] <siekacz> adalgiso: can't :)
[21:44] <Besitzer> bye :)
[21:44] <siekacz> bye
[21:44] <failers> Besitzer: bye
[21:44] <siekacz> new ati cards works fine
[21:44] <siekacz> under linux
[21:44] <adalgiso> my laptop is using a x1600 mobility
[21:45] <siekacz> better than Nvidia - their driver sucks, doesn't work with KDE
[21:45] <bot10> help i accidentally deleted both my default panel
[21:45] <bot10> k ubuntu
[21:45] <adalgiso> in gnome?
[21:45] <siekacz> what version?
[21:45] <adalgiso> bot10?
[21:45] <failers> siekacz: lies
[21:46] <failers> i got geforce 9600m gt and it works almost flawless
[21:46] <failers> only a minor graphical thing but its nothing that disturbs much :P
[21:46] <siekacz> failers: maybe they have fixed it
[21:47] <Guest84216> !ati
[21:48] <adalgiso> yay, nickserv still remembers me
[21:48] <siekacz> fglrx is not supported since vista is out
[21:48] <bot10> can sombody help me get my panel back
[21:48] <bot10> ?
[21:48] <adalgiso> why would the vista release affect fglrx drivers?
[21:48] <siekacz> not fglx but my card :)
[21:48] <adalgiso> ah
[21:48] <bot10> default panel
[21:49] <adalgiso> bot10: is it gnome panels?
[21:49] <siekacz> bot10: do you use KDE?
[21:49] <siekacz> or GNOME
[21:49] <bot10> kubuntu
[21:49] <bot10> im a newbi
[21:49] <siekacz> so KDE
[21:49] <bot10> don't know
[21:49] <bot10> yeah
[21:49] <cbwcjw2> !enter | bot10
[21:50] <bot10> in terminal
[21:50] <adalgiso> do alt+f2 and run the command "kicker"
[21:50] <adalgiso> without quotation marks
[21:51] <siekacz> adalgiso: in KDE 4 there is no kicker :)
[21:51] <adalgiso> mmmm, i was reading this: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-runtime/faq/panel.html#id2532122
[21:52] <siekacz> adalgiso: it's for 3.x
[21:52] <bot10> it says s event not found !enter
[21:52]  * cbwcjw2 sighs.
[21:53] <adalgiso> ugh, old documentation for the lose
[21:53] <siekacz> in KDE 4 there is only plasma
[21:53] <cbwcjw2> adalgiso: Yea, im debating writing up tuts on my site.
[21:54] <failers> i remember doing that myself removing panel isnt there a folder in /home/.kde4 he can remove and when he restarts its back
[21:54] <siekacz> failers: ./.kde
[21:54] <cbwcjw2> failers: Yea! that works
[21:54] <siekacz> now all the new kde settings are in ./kde
[21:54] <adalgiso> bot10: have you tried just restarting X?  ctrl+alt+bksp?
[21:55] <failers> he left
[21:55] <failers> :o
[21:55] <adalgiso> hmm, he did
[21:55]  * cbwcjw2 sighs again
[21:55] <adalgiso> i hate it when your customers dont appreciate your support
[21:56] <failers> adalgiso: you are some kind of developer for kde/kubuntu ? :o
[21:56] <adalgiso> no, i do tech support for a living
[21:56] <failers> oki
[21:56] <adalgiso> i wish i was that good a programmer :)
[21:56] <failers> :)
[21:57] <siekacz> anyone knows python?
[21:57] <djsiege> hello all
[21:57] <siekacz> hi :)
[21:57] <djsiege> where would I look if I wanted to install a virtual machine?
[21:57] <failers> google
[21:57] <failers> :)
[21:57] <siekacz> djsiege: virtualbox
[21:57] <siekacz> and google :)
[21:57] <cbwcjw2> djsiege: http://www.virtualbox.org/
[21:58] <djsiege> thankyou all!
[21:58] <adalgiso> virtualbox, vmware, xen
[21:58] <adalgiso> virtualbox is probably the easiest
[21:58] <siekacz> using google won't hurt you :)
[21:58] <siekacz> and fastest
[21:59] <djsiege> ok ok i get it sorry
[21:59] <djsiege> thanks for the help
[21:59] <adalgiso> siekacz: helps to know what to search for :P
[21:59] <adalgiso> alright, time to scoot
[21:59] <adalgiso> ttfn
[22:00] <siekacz> what's your favorite plasma theme?
[22:00] <failers> glassified
[22:01] <siekacz> Oxyglass
[22:01] <siekacz> i like oxygen
[22:02] <siekacz> http://docs.kde.org/ - omfg, KDE 4.1 is still development release there!
[22:02] <failers> hehe
[22:03] <failers> see it from the good side the dont waste time on docs only coding
[22:03] <failers> :)
[22:04] <david_edmundson> siekacz: you should have updated docs in your installation
[22:04] <david_edmundson> some documents are updated, just no-one maintains that website
[22:05] <siekacz> docs.kde.org should be updated
[22:05] <david_edmundson> yes it should. I wasn't arguing that
[22:05] <david_edmundson> I'm just trying to help you get at more recent docs given that no-one has updated that website
[22:05] <siekacz> Maybe kde is to easy to waste time on writing docs :)
[22:06] <david_edmundson> if you go to "Help" in the menu, you'll get the same docs that would/should be on that website
[22:07] <failers> bah reboot brb
[22:07] <athlon1> Why doesn work this? obex://[00:17:e5:d3:23:24]:11/C: It returns me an error (unable  to connect the server). I'm trying to coneect my mobile with konqueror...
[22:07] <siekacz> kickoff menu is like.. iPhone :)
[22:08] <david_edmundson> siekacz: I've not used an iPhone, but we had it first
[22:08] <jonah> hey guys for somme reason now in kde 4.2 my login screen/splash thing is welcome to debian and not the nice oxygen one. how can i put the oxygen one in there? cheers
[22:08] <david_edmundson> it's based off the menu that Suse had back in the days of 3.4
[22:08] <siekacz> i know
[22:08] <david_edmundson> oh ok :-)
[22:08] <david_edmundson> also, if you want to help out on documentation - feel free!
[22:08] <siekacz> Apple copies everything :)
[22:09] <david_edmundson> I did a tiny bit of the Dolphin ones once, it's kinda good fun (to some extent)
[22:09] <siekacz> i think my level of english is not good enough :)
[22:10] <siekacz> in my native language there is... nothing in docs
[22:10] <david_edmundson> what language is that?
[22:10] <siekacz> polish
[22:11] <siekacz> only few kde games - on the site
[22:12] <siekacz> KDE 4 would be grat for touchscreen
[22:12] <siekacz> *great
[22:13] <PSiL0> siekacz: at least the cashew has a purpose in that environment
[22:16] <siekacz> multitouch, it should be in xorg 7.5 - multitouch getures would be great
[22:17] <siekacz> is konkqueror planning to switch to WebKit?
[22:17] <cbwcjw2> siekacz: No
[22:17] <cbwcjw2> siekacz: KHTML and webkit share code back and forth
[22:17] <Socceroos> is anyone else experiencing problems getting strigi desktop search to work in KDE 4.2?
[22:17] <siekacz> yes
[22:17] <siekacz> me
[22:18] <siekacz> can't run strigi - segmentation fault
[22:19] <Socceroos> ah
[22:20] <Socceroos> Well, I'm getting a 'strigi service not running' error.
[22:20] <siekacz> cbwcjw2: but Webkit passes Acid3, and KHTML not...
[22:20] <siekacz> Socceroos: write in console "strigidaemon", ofc without quotation marks
[22:21] <siekacz> does it thow a warning?
[22:22] <BigMike> does anyone know where i can change paper size from decimals to inches in open office?
[22:22] <Socceroos> lol.....command not found..........
[22:23] <siekacz> Socceroos: so install everything what has 'strigi' in it's name :)
[22:24] <siekacz> when i want to run strigi i get:
[22:24] <siekacz> bartosz@bartosz-desktop:~$ strigidaemon
[22:24] <siekacz> WARNING: field 'http://strigi.sf.net/ontologies/0.9#debugParseError' is not defined in any rdfs ontology database.
[22:24] <siekacz> Segmentation fault
[22:25] <Socceroos> I get the same warning now....but not segfault yet.
[22:26] <siekacz> fu****g shit :(
[22:26] <siekacz> did you install packages from kubuntu-experimental?
[22:26] <Socceroos> But still, KDE system settings won't keep the Enable Strigi checkbox ticked....
[22:27] <Socceroos> It keeps unticking it and saying that strigi isn't running.
[22:27] <siekacz> I have this too
[22:28] <Socceroos> I think it might be a packaging error.
[22:28] <siekacz> not working Strigi, and crashing plasma - that's my problems with KDE 4.2
[22:28] <Socceroos> Riddell: do you know anything about this?
[22:28] <Socceroos> siekacz: Plasma is pretty good for me, but it does crash a bit when I'm mucking around with plasmoids.
[22:29] <siekacz> KDE Twitter?
[22:29] <Socceroos> Wha..?
[22:29] <siekacz> twitter plasmoid for kde
[22:29] <cbwcjw2> Somebody do krunner and "kdesudo dolphin"
[22:29] <Socceroos> yeah, that and the bouncing ball, and ALWAYS the weather applet.
[22:30] <cbwcjw2> and tell me if it works
[22:30] <siekacz> cbwcjw2: not
[22:30] <cbwcjw2> Socceroos: Yea, i wish the weather applet worked
[22:30] <cbwcjw2> siekacz: Did it not work>?
[22:30] <siekacz> packaging errors
[22:30] <cbwcjw2> It doesnt work for a buncha people
[22:30] <siekacz> dolphin windows is empty
[22:31] <siekacz> *window
[22:31] <siekacz> and there is an error on the bottom
[22:32] <siekacz> Strigi works but not in kubuntu
[22:32] <siekacz> packging error
[22:32] <raindog> Using 4.2. with Zooming User Interface, on a second created activity the widgets won't align on the right side.  They always move back to the center.  Is this a bug or am I missing something?
[22:32] <raindog> They however align just fine on the left side.
[22:32] <Socceroos> siekacz: yeah, it has to be the packages. It works fine in openSuse 11.1
[22:33] <Socceroos> but it seems that Riddell and apachelogger aren't around - so we can't ask them about it.
[22:33] <siekacz> raindog: when you close kde and run again?
[22:34] <siekacz> does anyone have a problem with screen resolution?
[22:34] <raindog> siekacz: Nope, as soon as I add a widget to the second activity on the right side it automatically moves to the center.
[22:34] <siekacz> another error
[22:35] <siekacz> maybe in jaunty it will work :]
[22:35] <raindog> No biggie for me.  But thanks siekacz.  I'll check and see if there is a bug report on it.
[22:35] <raindog> I'll test it in a jaunty vm.
[22:36]  * siekacz listens to Dragonforce - Through the Fire and Flames
[22:36]  * cbwcjw2 Hates dragonforce so is pulling the offtopic card out of bias
[22:36] <cbwcjw2> :)
[22:38] <siekacz> :)
[22:38] <Socceroos> siekacz: if you run strigidaemon and then untick 'Enable Nepomuk', then click apply, then re-tick 'Enable Nepomuk' and click apply do you get the 'Failed to contact Strigi indexer' error?
[22:38] <siekacz> w8
[22:39] <siekacz> my PC is so slow...
[22:39] <Socceroos> the error should show under the 'Enable Strigi' checkbox.
[22:40] <elione> cual es el nombre del servidor ubuntu en español?
[22:40] <siekacz> Socceroos: yes
[22:40] <Socceroos> siekacz: hmmm, doh.
[22:40] <siekacz> !es | elione
[22:41] <siekacz> so... compilling KDe wold kill my PC :)
[22:41] <Socceroos> heh
[22:42] <siekacz> i love these bugs... :/
[22:43] <ogre> anyone have any idea how to get rid of "recently used" item from panel? intrepid kde4 btw
[22:44] <Heliodor1> hello
[22:44] <Heliodor1> KDE 4.2 installed Mysql, is it possible to change the default port without breaking anything?
[22:44] <raindog> Here's a link to a short video showing how to use activities and the Zoom User Interface in KDE4.  http://blip.tv/file/1664281
[22:46] <Socceroos> siekacz: I think I found the problem
[22:48] <siekacz> Socceroos: ?
[22:48] <Gun_Smoke> messing around with konversation a bit.. could someone drop my nick please along with a short msg.. OSD work well? annoying?
[22:49] <kaddi> Gun_Smoke here you go :D
[22:49] <Gun_Smoke> perfect kaddi thank you.
[22:51] <talonstriker> hi, i'm using kde4.1 and I accidently triggered the "expose" feature... how do I reproduce it?
[22:51] <siekacz> talonstriker: currently, there is no Expose plugin in kwin
[22:52] <ciber_> alguien habla español??????????
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> siekacz: it's called present windows, but KDE does have it
[22:52] <kaddi> !es |ciber_
[22:52] <siekacz> !es | ciber_
[22:52] <JontheEchidna> talonstriker: move your cursor to the very top left corner of the screen
[22:52] <ciber_> thanks
[22:52] <talonstriker> ah! thanks
[22:53] <talonstriker> wow never found it until now
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> I think there is a crtl + Fn button to do the same, but I forget which
[22:53] <siekacz> oh i thought about expose plugin in compiz :)
[22:53] <talonstriker> how do I control it's settings? do I need to get compiz-manager or something?
[22:54] <siekacz> talonstriker: system settings -> Desktop
[22:54] <talonstriker> nice...thanks guys
[22:55] <siekacz> Firefox is so slow... grrr
[22:55] <failers> Oo
[22:55] <siekacz> new PC needed :]
[22:56] <failers> get xfce and it feels like new
[22:56]  * cbwcjw2 likes konquorer
[22:56] <failers> :)
[22:56] <cbwcjw2> failers: Agree! My pentium 3 win98 box runs xfce like lightning :)
[22:56] <cbwcjw2> For some reason, however, it has a 60 gb HDD in there...
[22:57] <siekacz> koqueror is fast but loads bages slow
[22:57] <failers> haha i do hope you bought that hdd a bit later then the computer itself
[22:57] <failers> otherwise the hdd cant have been cheap
[22:57] <cbwcjw2> im pretty sure i did
[22:57] <cbwcjw2> i just dont remember...
[22:59] <Socceroos> siekacz: I don't have Java or the sesame backend for strigi installed
[22:59] <Socceroos> thats where the problem seems to bwe
[23:00] <ascari> hi
[23:00] <siekacz> Java in KDE?
[23:00] <kaddi> hi
[23:01] <siekacz> ok let's try to install sesame
[23:01] <Socceroos> Yeah, the strigi 'sesame' backend is written in Java.......
[23:02] <Socceroos> and the sesame backend is the one that KDE 4.2 requires cause the redland backend is so slow.
[23:04] <siekacz> ok.. kwin effects turned off because compositing was too slow
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> Socceroos: kubuntu doesn't compile the backend at all
[23:04] <Socceroos> I can't find sesame in the repo's
[23:04] <cbwcjw2> !find sesame
[23:04] <cbwcjw2> Socceroos :)
[23:04] <JontheEchidna> that's not it
[23:04] <cbwcjw2> Aww :( I tried
[23:05] <JontheEchidna> the backend requires several binary files to work that we can't distribute
[23:06] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: do you know which ones so we can do it ourselves?
[23:06] <JontheEchidna> well, even if you had the files you would still have to compile the backend, which would require compiling soprano for yourself too
[23:07] <JontheEchidna> I don't think I could walk you through the whole thing
[23:07] <Heliodor1> Gah
[23:07] <Heliodor1> Now i cant start my lampp server because of aconada!!
[23:07] <Heliodor1> Can anything more go wrong!!
[23:08] <cbwcjw2> X could freeze and your harddrive wipes itself.
[23:08] <cbwcjw2> Sorry, I couldnt help it :(
[23:08] <Heliodor1> .....
[23:08] <siekacz> http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_Hht7VZ29XgM/SYbnbVoycmI/AAAAAAAARtU/oXLkzMcKLZA/s400/paski-porownanie.png - Gnome is like Win7 :)
[23:08] <Heliodor1> And to disable aconada seems impossible.
[23:08] <failers> power could cut while kubuntu secretly degrag your files wich no one knew it could so the hdd gets destroyed
[23:08] <siekacz> not KDE
[23:08] <failers> *defrag
[23:08] <Heliodor1> Bah, il just crash the Mysql process i dont have time with this shit
[23:09] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: aaarrrgh. So basically you can't build the sesame backend because it requires proprietary binaries?
[23:09] <JontheEchidna> well, technically not "proprietary" but sorta proprietary
[23:09] <Socceroos> ........
[23:11] <siekacz> So, Strigi requires something what's not OpenSource, right?
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> partially
[23:11] <JontheEchidna> it's a mix of opensouce and some non opensource
[23:12] <jk-> hi all
[23:12] <siekacz> So, gotta install Google Desktop :/
[23:12] <JontheEchidna> and it's soprano, not strigi
[23:12] <jk-> kde 4.2 packagers: would it be possible to compile kopete with the meanwhile plugin enabled?
[23:12] <Heliodor1> how do i search for a process in the terminal?
[23:13] <jk-> Heliodor1: ps auxf
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> jk-: it should have meanwhile support already
[23:13] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: so soprano has some proprietary bits in it?
[23:13] <siekacz> gotta go to bed - 00:13 :)
[23:13] <JontheEchidna> Socceroos: yeah
[23:13] <Socceroos> siekacz: good night
[23:13] <siekacz> bye
[23:14] <JontheEchidna> Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora don't package it for that reason
[23:14] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: but openSuse does
[23:14] <jk-> JontheEchidna: oh, neat. for some reason it didn't show up in my protocols list.
[23:14] <jk-> hm, still doesn't.
[23:15]  * jk- investigates
[23:15] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: surely someone should package it in their PPA or something? =(
[23:15] <mefisto__> what is the number in xorg log files? eg Xorg.0.log Xorg.9.log etc
[23:15] <JontheEchidna> Recently I've been contemplating doing it, but I haven't found the time yet
[23:15] <jk-> mefisto__: it's the display number
[23:17] <Heliodor1> jk-: thanks for the help
[23:18] <thumper> is it just me or does adept-manager lack a way to sort the packages?
[23:18] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: oh well, I'll just have to wait till something is sorted out then... Or compile my own Soprano with the required config options.
[23:19] <thumper> also why does searching for "amarok" bring up "kmymoney"?
[23:20] <Heliodor1> I killed the mysqld process, but the lampp server still says there is another mysql process running, what am i missing here??
[23:20] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: I've compiled a lot of packages for FreeBSD before, so it isn't too foreign to me. Is it just the Soprano package that I need to compile with proper support?
[23:20] <JontheEchidna> just soprano
[23:21] <jk-> Heliodor1: sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop
[23:21] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: cool. and can I have it just install the binaries in their default dirs or is there a different install path?
[23:21] <zer0o> hi guys how do i do a search of only videoclips?
[23:21] <JontheEchidna> Socceroos: I would guess you'd want to install things to the default path
[23:22] <Heliodor1> jk-: Thanks, but still same shit
[23:22] <Heliodor1> jk-: lamp started perfect on gnome, but not now on kde
[23:22] <Socceroos> JontheEchidna: ok. I just wasn't sure if KDE required them in some obscure dir.
[23:22] <JontheEchidna> dpkg -L soprano, and you can see where the current stuff is going
[23:22] <Socceroos> ah, cool. thanks for that!
[23:23] <jk-> ah, maybe the akonadi mysql server is getting in the way?
[23:23] <jk-> ^ Heliodor1
[23:23] <Heliodor1> jk-: That was what i thought.
[23:23] <Heliodor1> jk-: but ive stoped all mysql processes i can find
[23:23] <mefisto__> jk-: should I have more than one "display"? is that display as in hardware or something else?
[23:24] <JontheEchidna> The akonadi mysql server is nothing more than a symlink to the installed server
[23:24] <jk-> mefisto__: no, you almost always only have one
[23:24] <Heliodor1> jk-: 090203 00:21:53 mysqld_safe Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /opt/lampp/var/mysql
[23:24] <Heliodor1> ^G/opt/lampp/sbin/mysqld: Can't find file: './mysql/plugin.frm' (errno: 13)
[23:24] <mefisto__> jk-: just wondering why xorg logs show I have 0 1 2 9 and 10
[23:24] <jk-> Heliodor1: looks like it can't find the table data
[23:25] <Heliodor1> jk-: yeah, and running mysql_upgrade wont work since its looking at the wrong path
[23:26] <little> I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but does anyone know why the feisty-backports/, feisty-proposed/, feisty-security/, feisty-updates/ folders are still on the package servers?
[23:26] <jk-> JontheEchidna: do you have a meanwhile protocol in your list?
[23:26] <jk-> strace shows that it's not trying to open the plugin lib
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> jk-: nope
[23:27] <giz> JontheEchidna: do you know how to search the strigi database in kde
[23:27] <jk-> JontheEchidna: ok, cheers
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> giz: not in kde4, I never figured that out
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> jk-: I do know that the plugin lib is being installed
[23:27] <JontheEchidna> it could be an upstream bug
[23:28] <jk-> yeah, i can see it's in the package
[23:28] <JontheEchidna> if you file an upstream bug please make sure to mention that or else they'll bounce it back in a new york second :P
[23:28] <jk-> i am the upstream :P
[23:28] <JontheEchidna> oh, cool
[23:29] <jk-> (jsut for the meanwhile plugin)
[23:29] <JontheEchidna> ah, so you're the one who filed the wishlist report for the inclusion in the packaging. I'm the one who did that packaging :)
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> or well, got the change for meanwhile support included in the packages
[23:30] <jk-> JontheEchidna: no, I don't think that was me
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> oh
[23:30] <jk-> hm, looks like we're missing a .desktop entry
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> I can run a kdenetwork build here and check the list-missing output
[23:30] <JontheEchidna> might take a bit though
[23:31] <jk-> yeah, no kopete_meanwhile.desktop in debian/kopete.install
[23:32]  * JontheEchidna might have a hunch of what happened
[23:32] <JontheEchidna> oh, nevermind
[23:32]  * JontheEchidna was thinking msn support
[23:33] <cbwcjw2> KDEnetworkmanager makes me sad. Actually, most network managers make me sad.
[23:33] <jk-> ok, just manually copied the .desktop file in, all seems to work fine now.
[23:33] <JontheEchidna> jk-: I will investiage
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> investigate, even
[23:34] <jk-> cheers :)
[23:34] <JontheEchidna> investiage sounds cool outloud though
[23:34] <jk-> feel free to get in touch if I can lend a hand
[23:34] <jk-> jk (at) ozlabs.org
[23:37] <Socceroos> ozlabs: as in, ozzie?
[23:37] <Socceroos> as in, aussie?
[23:37] <Socceroos> =P
[23:42] <mefisto__> hooray for oz!
[23:45] <martijn81> when will ktorrent in intrepid be updated?
[23:45] <Socceroos> mefisto__: you're from NSW?
[23:45] <martijn81> it is really outdated now
[23:46] <martijn81> btw 3.2 will come out in two weeks
[23:46] <Socceroos> martijn81: I believe there is an updated ktorrent in the kubuntu-experimental PPA
[23:46] <Socceroos> if you're using KDE 4.2
[23:47] <cjae> !login
[23:47] <cjae> @login
[23:47] <cjae> um
[23:47] <mefisto__> Socceroos: yes
[23:48] <dendraya> does i have to back up anything else than /home if i do a clean reinstall?
[23:49] <nosferatu> hi
[23:49] <kaddi> hi
[23:49] <martijn81> Socceroos: no there is not, i have the experimental ppa enabled and there is no update says apt-cache policy ktorrent
[23:49] <nosferatu> can someone helpme get kde4.2 on an ubuntu server?
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> dendraya- might be worth making a backup of /etc as well
[23:51] <cjae> how do I make kde quit opening things I never closed properly do see it in system settings
[23:51] <cjae> don't
[23:51] <dendraya> Dragnslcr: ok, i'll back it up, too, thx
[23:52] <cjae> in old kde I believe it was under login manager or window or something like that
[23:52] <nosferatu> i updated the souces list
[23:52] <Dragnslcr> dendraya- /etc has mostly system-wide configuration files, so if you have something line Apache installed, its config files would be there
[23:52] <nosferatu> added the signal key
[23:52] <mefisto__> dendraya: you might want to backup other files you've modified too, to save you having to do it all again. eg /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/fstab /etc/network/interfaces /etc/apt/sources.list are things I usually modify
[23:53] <Dragnslcr> dendraya- you definitely shouldn't copy the backup of /etc to the new installation. Just copy files as you need them
[23:53] <dendraya> Dragnslcr: oh, ok... thx for the info
[23:54] <dendraya> btw, will there be any problems upgrading from 8.04 kde4.1 to 8.10/9.04 kde4.2
[23:55] <dendraya> 'cause now i have a .kde and a .kde4 dir...
[23:56] <nosferatu> does anyone know information about installing KDE 4.2 on Ubuntu srvr?
[23:58] <mefisto__> dendraya: do you (or did you) have kde4 installed in hardy?
[23:58] <dendraya> mefisto__: yes, i installed 8.04 remix
[23:59] <mefisto__> dendraya: your kde4 settings are in .kde4 and the .kde is for kde3