[08:47] <huats> morning everyone
[08:49] <BugMaN> morning huats :)
[08:49] <huats> hey BugMaN
[08:55] <didrocks> morning huats
[09:14] <pochu> morning seb128
[09:14] <pochu> already in Berlin?
[09:14] <seb128> hey pochu
[09:14] <seb128> yes
[09:14] <huats> hey seb128 and pochu
[09:15] <seb128> lut huats
[09:15] <pochu> hi huats
[09:15] <huats> how are you guys ?
[09:17] <pochu> fine, I don't start class again until mid february or so, and there's only one (easy) exam remaining :)
[09:17] <pochu> huats: when are you gonna send your MOTU application? ;)
[09:18] <huats> pochu: just waiting for seb128 (nice ?) words :)
[09:19] <seb128> I though that was done?
[09:19] <seb128> what is the wiki page about?
[09:19]  * seb128 is not too much into paper work
[09:20] <huats> seb128: oh
[09:20] <huats> I haven't looked
[09:20] <huats> seb128: :(
[09:20] <pochu> seb128: just copy the template and fill it ;) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChristopheSauthier/MOTUApplication
[09:20] <huats> but since I haven't seen the notification email ...
[09:20] <seb128> I didn't write my comments on the wiki yet but that's not required for you to apply is it?
[09:20] <huats> I think it was...
[09:21] <pochu> seb128: it's not but the process has changed and now sponsors are supposed to ACK the application in the wiki page
[09:21] <huats> I might be wrong...
[09:21] <seb128> I need to talk to dholbach again then
[09:21] <huats> seb128: ok :)
[09:21] <seb128> I hate this paperwork tasks
[09:21] <huats> seb128: please let me know ;)
[09:21] <seb128> pochu: well, some other people already did file the page
[09:22] <pochu> right, that's why I said it's not necessary... but if you want to ACK his application, the wiki is the page to do so now
[09:22] <pochu> or that's what I understood
[09:23] <seb128> right
[09:23] <seb128> I'm just busy and tend to do paperwork only when I need to
[09:23] <pochu> understood
[09:23] <seb128> ie if you block waiting on me to write there it can take a while
[09:24] <seb128> if you do apply I will file the wikipage before the council needs the informations
[09:24] <seb128> ie you should apply which will motive me to write rather than to wait on me to write ;-)
[09:24] <pochu> that makes sense ;)
[09:27] <didrocks> seb128: can you think about me too ? :) (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DidierRoche/MOTUApplication)
[09:27] <seb128> you guys are on my list yes
[09:27] <seb128> I had a busy week and I've been travelling
[09:27] <didrocks> no pb :)
[09:28] <pochu> seb128: have fun in Berlin!
[09:28] <seb128> pochu: thanks ;-)
[09:28]  * pochu bbl
[09:33] <didrocks> seb128: it's done (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Council/Meeting), you are under pressure now :) (but enjoy your Berlin trip first ;))
[09:33] <seb128> didrocks: cool!
[09:47] <huats> seb128: I have added myself too to the MC page...
[09:47] <huats> so do it when you can
[09:47] <seb128> huats: thanks
[09:47] <huats> and enjoy your stay :)
[09:47] <huats> thanks to you ;)
[09:49] <didrocks> oh seb128, not remebered for asking this to you, but do you come to FOSDEM?
[09:49] <seb128> no
[09:50] <mvo> seb128: hi, do you think we could make libproxy build against mozjs ? it would be really nice
[09:50] <didrocks> hope to see you soon (but not at FOSDEM, so :( ) ^^
[09:51] <seb128> mvo: hi, talk to asac he said mozjs has no stable api, abi and should not be used
[09:52] <seb128> mvo: come to the desktop room and we will discuss it with asac if you want
[09:54] <mvo> asac, seb128: ok, I come over
[11:20] <bryce-sprint> http://qa.ubuntu.com/reports/team-assigned/canonical-desktop-team-assigned-bug-tasks.html
[14:40] <asac> mvo: starter kit: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/MiscDBus
[14:40] <mvo> asac: "This page does not exist yet. You can create a new empty page, or use one of the page templates. "
[14:40] <mvo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkManager/MiscDBusMagic ?
[15:05] <phomes> I was looking at gconf-editor and I think that the depends on libgnome/libgnomeui are not needed anymore. Should I file a bug about this?
[15:08] <seb128> phomes: no
[15:15] <seb128_> re
[15:16] <seb128_> I was saying gconf-editor still uses libgnome
[15:18] <phomes> seb128: ok. I was looking at how much effort it would be to drop libgnome and friends from the install cd. Looked to me like all libgnome usage in gconf-editor was removed already. Sorry
[15:18] <seb128> it's not
[15:18] <seb128> gnome_program_init is called
[15:19] <seb128> and the configure still uses it
[15:19] <seb128> should be easy to replace though
[15:22] <phomes> seb128: I feel stupid. I looked at upstream source. Misread that ubuntu is at 2.24.1 not 2.25.1. Sorry for wasting time. Will use apt-get source from now on
[15:23] <seb128> phomes: there is no 2.25 tarball
[15:36] <phomes> seb128: yes I see. My bad. I just did apt-get remove libgnome2-0 to get a list of what would be removed and started fetching source upstream to see if I could help out. Then I misread the 2.24.1/2.25.1 in synaptic and upstream configure.in. Damn
[15:37] <seb128> phomes: no problem, I think there is still too many things using those to move them out of the CD this cycle
[15:38] <pochu> and not all of libgnome functionality is in other libraries yet
[15:39] <pochu> (e.g. GnomeSession IIRC)
[15:39] <phomes> yes, but might be doable for jaunty+1. There is nothing wrong with starting early
[15:40] <phomes> pochu: for gnome-games we use eggsmclient instead
[15:42] <seb128> right, working to not have those libs used on the CD is always good
[15:42] <pochu> phomes: did you copy the code into gnome-games? it's not available in a shared library, is it?
[15:43] <phomes> pochu: we copied
[16:14] <ember> seb128 mind if i do brasero and gnome-themes update?
[16:14] <seb128> you can do those
[16:14] <ember> thanks.
[16:15] <crevette> seb128, I did gnome-user-share update this week-end I know this is not in main, but as it has gnome in its name I thought you could interested with :)
[16:16] <seb128> crevette: not especially right now busy at the distro sprint, just subscribe the sponsor team to the bug
[16:17] <crevette> I did subscribe the universe sponsor team already
[17:26] <pochu> huats is in the HoF! go huats! :-)
[17:26] <huats> lol
[17:26] <huats> thanks pochu
[17:33] <geser> did gnome-sound-properties got removed from gnome-control-center? if yes, what it got replaced with?
[17:36] <mclasen> geser: gnome-volume-control in gnome-media
[17:38] <davmor2> Guys I got a pulse-audio issue my sound card shows up in input but not output which means I get no audio from login onwards is this known?
[17:40] <geser> mclasen: does it work for you? because I got a warning that it can't aquire the session bus when I try to use it and that's all
[17:41] <mclasen> geser: yeah, it works
[17:41] <mclasen> are you running it over ssh -Y ?
[17:41] <geser> no
[17:42] <geser> mclasen: I called it from a gnome-terminal as I couldn't find it in the menus
[17:44] <geser> mclasen: and one can use now gnome-volume-control to change the audio output from analog to digital and back?
[17:44] <geser> I used gnome-sound-properties for this in the past
[18:18] <didrocks> vuntz (cf your blog): you google "debian" during your work time? :)
[21:04] <maxb> Hi, there was a libgnome update today with the change "don't force the dpi value to 96 but use the xorg value"
[21:05] <maxb> This made my desktop fonts unpleasantly large
[21:05] <crevette> report a bug I guess
[21:05] <maxb> I'll file a bug - anything useful I can say in it beyond the above?
[21:05] <crevette> perhaps see with the guys from X team
[21:06] <crevette> i don't know that much :)
[21:06] <maxb> Hang around here and hope an X expert shows up, or is there a better channel?
[21:06] <crevette> #ubuntu-x
[21:06] <crevette> perhaps some quirks are needed for that
[21:07]  * maxb curses freenode's 20-channel limit
[21:12] <petski> maxb: I've seen something about "large fonts" in the Ubuntu wiki
[21:14] <petski> maxb: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HugeFonts
[21:18] <maxb> Hmm... my Xorg.0.log is missing the info that page says should be there
[21:20] <maxb> Though xrandr --verbose gives millimetre perfect measurements