=== asac_ is now known as asac | ||
asac | ok | 08:28 |
---|---|---|
gnomefreak | ya nvidia is fixed | 10:03 |
gnomefreak | yay even | 10:03 |
fta | asac, people keep opening bugs against prism, while there's nothing prism could do about that, they want desktop apps features from webapps | 10:05 |
asac | fta: thats how it works ;) ... set wontfix or invalid | 10:11 |
gnomefreak | firefox-3.1 and 3.2 help>about is broken, XML error | 10:15 |
gnomefreak | ok thats strange, a package updated but i didnt have it installed :( | 10:29 |
gnomefreak | sometime this week i should have seamonkey 2.0 done. i doubt today since its monday and ive been off for a while | 10:55 |
asac | jdstrand: we have https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=471715 in the pipeline, but for 1.8 branches its not yet really QAed | 11:14 |
ubottu | Mozilla bug 471715 in Libraries "Add cert to nssckbi to override rogue md5-collision CA cert" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] | 11:14 |
asac | not sure what to do with that for this update round | 11:14 |
asac | jdstrand: are there any server apps using nss? | 11:14 |
asac | jdstrand: so my plan atm is to get the new nss (3.12latest) into hardy, intrepid and jaunty | 11:16 |
asac | dapper and gutsy will come when we know what to do | 11:16 |
jagadeesh | how can setup thunderbird to see only unread emails | 15:17 |
piratenaapje | fta: are you here? | 17:47 |
fta | piratenaapje, hi | 18:57 |
fta | piratenaapje, no, it didn't work, i fixed a few other things but it's still not enough | 18:57 |
piratenaapje | fta: But it configures? | 18:57 |
fta | the whole python hack is far too messy | 18:57 |
fta | no, configure worked, like for you | 18:57 |
fta | the build fails afterwards | 18:58 |
piratenaapje | Oh :s | 18:58 |
fta | i guess i have to figure out another way to use our system python. | 18:59 |
piratenaapje | What's the problem now then? Still the python build code? | 18:59 |
fta | using --python=xxx in xul-configure is apparently a bad idea | 18:59 |
fta | no, by default, it expects a full copy of python in the moz objdir. if you don't provide it, you end up with just the python modules from both xul and o-k but no usable python | 19:00 |
piratenaapje | not sure if I can help with that | 19:01 |
fta | they should create a something we can ship in /usr/lib/python-support or something | 19:01 |
fta | too bad i know almost nothing about python packaging | 19:02 |
fta | don't worry, it's a though project | 19:02 |
fta | much tougher than usual | 19:02 |
piratenaapje | Well, I don't know much about python packaging either :s, probably less than you even | 19:03 |
fta | i committed you stuff so asac could have a look, maybe he'll have a better idea | 19:03 |
fta | don't worry, whatever happens, you'll be credited for your work :) | 19:04 |
piratenaapje | Ah, yay :p | 19:04 |
fta | youR | 19:04 |
piratenaapje | I'll take a look later, I can try at least | 19:04 |
fta | sure | 19:04 |
fta | asac, ^^ any progress with o-k? | 19:05 |
fta | asac, maybe you can corner some python packaging magician in your sprint :) | 19:05 |
fta | hmm, he's probably drinking beers in some dark place | 19:06 |
piratenaapje | Alright, no rush :p | 19:06 |
piratenaapje | fta: You didn't commit your changes? | 19:34 |
fta | hm, i thought i did, maybe not all | 19:35 |
piratenaapje | fta: bzr says my tree is up to date, but I didn't update since saturday | 19:36 |
piratenaapje | fta: oops sorry, bzr is a bit confusing, update doesn't actually update :p | 19:37 |
fta | you need rev6 | 19:37 |
fta | bzr pull | 19:37 |
fta | update is different | 19:38 |
fta | you usually just need bzr init/push/pull/commit/diff/status | 19:38 |
piratenaapje | fta: I'm used to svn :p | 19:38 |
fta | yep, each vcs has its own tricks | 19:39 |
fta | no more snow in paris :( | 19:42 |
fta | piratenaapje, another big problem with o-k is that they ship patches everywhere so when you have to patch those files, it becomes really ugly | 19:45 |
piratenaapje | fta: We're supposed to patch the patches? | 19:48 |
fta | not if we can avoid it | 19:49 |
fta | we should really discuss with upstream | 19:49 |
fta | but i don't have much time to jump into yet another big project | 19:49 |
piratenaapje | fta: And I'm really not experienced enough for this one :p | 19:50 |
fta | maybe we can drag another motu or core-dev into this | 19:51 |
fta | (i secretly hoped asac was the one) | 19:51 |
fta | ;) | 19:51 |
piratenaapje | fta: Hopefully :) | 19:51 |
fta | ok, dinner time. cu later | 19:52 |
piratenaapje | Enjoy your meal | 19:52 |
mconnor | asac: questions about libnotify | 20:11 |
mconnor | or fta, I guess | 20:12 |
fta | mconnor, yesN | 20:30 |
fta | ? | 20:30 |
mconnor | fta: libnotify doesn't let you set an action for onclick? | 20:31 |
fta | mconnor, i don't know the details. i know the cannonical devs are working on notifications and actions are hot debate. same for click through. asac should know more, he's in a sprint the whole week, so he probably has fresh news | 20:34 |
mconnor | fta: ok, awesome, thanks | 21:13 |
fta | oh my! http://www.journaldugeek.com/2009/01/14/reparer-un-ecran-plasma/ | 21:17 |
fta | mconnor, in case you missed it, the initial rework idea for notifications started from there: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/253 | 21:48 |
mconnor | I think that the actions thing is stupid | 21:53 |
mconnor | the rationalization there is half-assed | 21:53 |
mconnor | because by saying "hey, X" you're telling someone information that they may want to act on | 21:54 |
mconnor | otherwise why are you even telling me anything? | 21:55 |
mconnor | fta: where can I weigh in on this misguided decision process? | 21:55 |
fta | hm.. UDS would have been a good place. | 21:56 |
mconnor | I didn't know | 21:56 |
fta | i'm looking on lp if there's a place with fresh info on this | 21:57 |
mconnor | thanks | 21:57 |
mconnor | because as it stands, I'm mulling backing out libnotify support, because it's a usability regression | 21:58 |
mconnor | and then asac and I will have to get drunk at FOSDEM and fight to the death | 21:59 |
mconnor | or something | 21:59 |
fta | mpt seems to be at the center of this topic | 21:59 |
[reed] | ah, good ol' mpt ;) | 22:02 |
[reed] | he's ex-Mozillian | 22:02 |
fta | can't find much :( | 22:08 |
fta | http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha3#New%20style%20for%20notifications%20and%20notification%20preferences | 22:08 |
fta | some info about the new Desktop Experience Team: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/3805 | 22:11 |
fta | http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2008/12/canonical-linux-notification-system.ars | 22:11 |
fta | no real spec, sorry | 22:11 |
mconnor | fta: gotta love the transparency | 22:16 |
fta | i thought some parts of the mozilla tree where twisted and ugly, but it's in fact very well polished compared to openkomodo :P | 22:25 |
fta | -where+were | 22:25 |
piratenaapje | fta: rule 106 of openkomodo-configure.patch should be removed, it's output I used for debugging | 22:27 |
piratenaapje | fta: rule 97-114 can all be removed actually :p | 22:29 |
fta | piratenaapje, yes, i know but i'm not satisfied at all by the last two patches in the series (mine included). so i didn't even try to clean them. i just push them to let asac start from where we left. | 22:29 |
fta | i'm quite sure there's a far better way to do this | 22:30 |
piratenaapje | fta: ah alright | 22:30 |
piratenaapje | fta: yeah it's quite hacky what I've done :p | 22:30 |
fta | not your fault, the design is flawed to start with | 22:31 |
piratenaapje | fta: I don't see how the configure would've worked in the first place | 22:31 |
piratenaapje | fta: The first error you were getting had nothing to do with the siloed python version | 22:32 |
fta | i also fixed a lot of stuff that could not possibly have worked for anyone. I wonder how they manage to even build that thing upstream | 22:33 |
fta | it's using a build system in perl, in python, with an autoconf and m4 macros, with Cons scripts, makefiles, shell scripts, etc.. | 22:34 |
fta | plus patches | 22:34 |
fta | plus tons of foreign binaries | 22:35 |
piratenaapje | fta: Yeah, easily the ugliest build system I've seen so far :p | 22:35 |
fta | maybe we could just bypass this whole python "black" build system and build each piece ourself | 22:37 |
piratenaapje | fta: Sounds like alot of work :p | 22:39 |
fta | maybe | 22:40 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!