[00:00] <Krstnsn> whats a good dock? i was using awn, but im having some issues.
[00:00] <Krstnsn> i need something more forward focused
[00:00] <uncmar> tsrk: ppi, Pixels per Inch, tsrk what are you modifying the image with, and are you saving the change?
[00:00] <lenswipe> yeah so
[00:00] <_VIM_> Krstnsn: try gnome-do (if you're on Ibex)
[00:00] <lenswipe> i cant uninstall varnish
[00:00] <lenswipe> anyone got any ideas?
[00:00] <Krstnsn> ive also tried cairo and it was garbarge
[00:00] <Krstnsn> gnome do isnt a dock though is it? i thought it was liek launchy
[00:00] <uncmar> lenswipe: apt-get autoremove varnish didn't work for you?
[00:00] <_VIM_> it can be
[00:01] <_VIM_> you have to choose themes 'docky' Krstnsn
[00:01] <lenswipe> anyone?
[00:01] <lenswipe> no
[00:01] <lenswipe> uncmar: no it wouldnt
[00:01] <tsrk> uncmar, I mean when I close (by clicking apply) the page setup dialog... and it happens in Gimp and the default photo editor (F-Spot i believe).  I don't actually close the image, just the page setup dialog, but when I try to print it prints the tiny 2 x 1.5 inch dimensions.
[00:01] <Krstnsn> oh ok thanks ill try it.
[00:01] <_VIM_> np
[00:01] <nicfbi> salut les pouilleux
[00:01] <_VIM_> !fr
[00:01] <ben36> I am trying to use pam_mysql it almost works when i put the wrong password in i get the error NT_STATUS_WRONG_PASSWORD, but when i put the correct one i get NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE anyone know why
[00:02] <lenswipe> uncmar: thats a link to what happens when i try http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd12/lenswipe/ubuntu/varnish.png
[00:02] <nicfbi> ouiiiiiii je suis un morron
[00:02] <CyBurnett> how do i get my top and bottom panel back? Ubuntu hardy 8.04
[00:02] <lenswipe> uncmar: well thats what happens when i try with synaptic
[00:02] <nicfbi> all connect to runescape
[00:02] <nicfbi> go go go
[00:02] <_VIM_> !ot | nicfbi
[00:03] <I-I4x0r> it worked
[00:03] <I-I4x0r> ty laptop
[00:03] <uncmar> tsrk: are you changing the ppi setting?  image Resolution or something like that.  /me loads gimp
[00:03] <lenswipe> AAGHHHH!!!!!
[00:03] <lenswipe> i seriously cant get rid of varnish
[00:03] <lenswipe> can someone help
[00:03] <lenswipe> please
[00:03] <FloodBot1> lenswipe: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:03] <lenswipe> its really f***ing me off
[00:03] <lenswipe> please
[00:04] <bleh123> could anyone tell me how to see a list of detected hardware devices.. similar to windows device manager.. i need to find out the IRQ of a PCI device
[00:04] <_VIM_> !ohmy | lenswipe
[00:04]  * uncmar doesn't have gimp, running fluxbuntu.  Light weight system.
[00:04] <tsrk> uncmar, not in the page setup.  I don't change anything else.  (There's very few options, just the printer, size, and orientation)
[00:04] <Delvien> lenswipe hey, need to calm down a bit, i will try to help you, just dont spam the channel
[00:04] <Delvien> lenswipe i didnt catch the previous conversation. So try to explain to me what is happening
[00:04] <c0ntr0lp4n1k> how i can turn off the gnome or grafical in ubuntu desktop?
[00:05] <uncmar> Delvien: he installed varnish and it doesn't want to remove via syntaptic.
[00:05] <lenswipe> Delvien: thanks, i cant get rid of it with sudo apt-get autoremove varnish
[00:05] <bleh123> c0ntr0lp4n1k: ctrl + alt + F2
[00:05] <Delvien> c0ntr0lp4n1k: in  a terminal sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[00:05] <baz> right now when I double-click on a .sh file, a dialoge asks me whether to run it, rin it in terminal, cancel, etc. How can I do it so that it always runs in terminal or always runs in gui without having this dialogue?
[00:05] <lenswipe> Delvien: and i cant get rid of it with synaptic
[00:05] <Delvien> lenswipe sudo apt-get remove --purge varnish  --- try that
[00:05] <lenswipe> Delvien: the synaptic method gives me this:
[00:05] <c0ntr0lp4n1k> thanks
[00:05] <lenswipe> http://s221.photobucket.com/albums/dd12/lenswipe/ubuntu/?action=view&current=varnish.png
[00:05] <CyBurnett> How can I run a terminal if i dont have any top or bottom panel?
[00:06] <Eredor> http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/upload.php this is my error, any way to fix it from ubuntu or do i need to go through the vista recovery cd?
[00:06] <Delvien> lenswipe what does the command i gave you output?
[00:06] <_VIM_> CyBurnett: ALT + F2 then type gnome-terminal
[00:06] <lenswipe> Delvien: the command?
[00:06] <ari_stress> good morning all :)
[00:06] <blouf> CyBurnett, just type alt+f2
[00:06] <Delvien> lenswipe sudo apt-get remove --purge varnish  --- try that
[00:06] <lenswipe> oh ok sec then
[00:06] <Eredor> http://pictureposter.allbrand.nu/pictures/CoLD%5EMeTaL/Screenshot.png
[00:06] <bongoman_> How can I manipulate configuration files in /etc/ without opening gedit with sudo
[00:06] <CyBurnett> _vIM_ I tried that but nothing happens :(
[00:07] <uncmar> tsrk: you are changing page setup?  you need to change image resolution.  Not sure how it is labeled or where to find it.
[00:07] <Delvien> bongoman_: you cant edit anything in /etc/ without root.
[00:07] <_VIM_> CyBurnett: are you even useing Ubuntu?
[00:07] <bongoman_> no
[00:07] <Delvien> bongoman_: you can sudo nano /etc/FILE
[00:07] <_VIM_> Using*
[00:07] <bongoman_> ah ok
[00:07] <CyBurnett> _VIM_, Yes of course, Im not that stupid!!??
[00:07] <uncmar> tsrk: Do not change resize the image.  You only want the inches and ppi to change.  pixels should remain the same.
[00:07] <tsrk> uncmar, it has a DPI setting in the print dialogue, but i'm having this problem even before then.  All i want to do is make a 4 x 6 print, but it's always making it way to small.
[00:07] <Delvien> bongoman_: but if you are unfamiliar with nano, you may want to stick with gedit before you start editing things in /etc
[00:07] <spill> any one ever use firehol?  I'm trying to allow local network addresses through the firewall anyone know how?
[00:07] <_VIM_> CyBurnett: ok it's just odd that you cant ALT + F2
[00:07] <tsrk> uncmar, i'm not change pixles, i'm changing inches
[00:08] <uncmar> tsrk: That's it.  DPI, Dots Per inch.  probably defaults to 75 dpi.
[00:08] <_VIM_> CyBurnett: and you'd be shocked of how many people come in here that dont even use Ubuntu so i had to ask :)
[00:08] <Delvien> _VIM_:  is he running gnome or KDE?
[00:08] <tsrk> uncmar, but it needs to print 4 x 6, and it's giving me 1200 dpi
[00:08] <bongoman_> hmm I was thinking about how save it is
[00:09] <bongoman_> why is your text highlited red ?
[00:09] <uncmar> tsrk: page setup is for the printer.  Not the image.
[00:09] <Delvien> bongoman_: control + x and read the options, to confirm when saving nano
[00:09] <VinceN> Ok I guess I'll just go over what i've done.  I've installed the basic Eclipse program from Synaptic and then added the PHP Plugin from the Eclipse's own plugin manager.  When I try to run eclipse on a normal user account it starts and lets you create projects and files, however when you attempt to open a file it says "An error has occured, Please check the log file" however it does not specify where this log file is and Google gives se
[00:09] <VinceN> veral different locations.  If I run Eclipse as ROOT this issue does not occur however then I have the problum of all my files belonging to ROOT and I really don't want to have to deal with CHMODING everything all the time.  I read on Google and the forums that if you install Sun-Java6-jpc and set ubuntu to use that as the default JAVA environment it should fix this issue but this has not happened.  At this point I am just running in ci
[00:09] <VinceN> rcles.  I really want to use ECLIPSE under Ubuntu but if I can't make this work soon i'm going to have to go back to *SHUDDER* windows.
[00:09] <FloodBot1> VinceN: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:09] <baz> when I double-click on a .sh file, a dialog asks me whether to run it in terminal, just run it, cancel, etc. How can I do it so that it always runs in terminal or always runs in gui without having this dialog?
[00:09] <CyBurnett> _VIM_, I can get to the desktop, at 800x600 resolution but the only thing that works is the right click context menu?
[00:09] <uncmar> tsrk:  you need to chnage the image settings.
[00:09] <lenswipe> Delvien: here: http://pastebin.com/m36e03dfc
[00:09] <lenswipe> Delvien: thats the output of the commands
[00:09]  * lenswipe is close to tears :'(
[00:09] <lenswipe> not really
[00:09] <lenswipe> but its annoying
[00:10] <CyBurnett> _VIM_, I have no panels, no icons, only desktop background
[00:10] <Delvien> lenswipe try this sudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq varnish
[00:10] <krilya> ppl, i can't install Canon LBP-1120 on Ubuntu 8.10, help plz
[00:10] <tsrk> uncmar, ohh, ok, i see what you're saying, i'll try that
[00:10] <fiftyone> hey anyone here ever use "pan' for reading news? how do i use par2 btw
[00:11] <durt> lenswipe: did you remove any files by hand?
[00:11] <danbhfive> VinceN: I have a suggestion, uninstall everything that you have installed, and we can try it
[00:11] <Delvien> durt its a broken package
[00:11] <lenswipe> Delvien:
[00:11] <Delvien> durt other users have had the same issue
[00:11] <spill> any one ever use firehol?  I'm trying to allow local network addresses through the firewall anyone know how?
[00:11] <lenswipe> Delvien:http://pastebin.com/m1cb0b362
[00:11] <VinceN> danbhfive : Ok one moment
[00:12] <uncmar> tsrk: you see where it says resolution of 72 ppi?
[00:12] <Delvien> lenswipe http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=676434 scroll to the bottom and read the instructions by slipmyknot101
[00:12] <bongoman_> wow thank you Delvien, I like this nano
[00:12] <lenswipe> Delvien: thanks
[00:12] <tsrk> uncmar, yeah, i should set that to 1200 right?
[00:12] <_VIM_> you'll like VIM even better :P
[00:12] <CyBurnett> _VIM_, I have tried useing the recoverty entries back to 2.6.24-16 up to 2.6.24 23 without success
[00:13] <uncmar> tsrk: don't set it based on the ppi.
[00:13] <uncmar> tsrk: resize the image, keeping the same pixel, but increasing the inches.  The result, the ppi will change.
[00:13] <fiftyone> i could really use some help getting a good news reader up and running
[00:13] <tsrk> uncmar, ok, how do I do that?
[00:13] <uncmar> tsrk: in other words, you want to scale without resizing.
[00:13] <VinceN> danbhfive : Ok, Done.  Eclipse and all configuration files have been removed through Synaptic
[00:14] <tsrk> uncmar, yeah, how do i tell it to keep pixles constant though?
[00:14] <danbhfive> VinceN: ok, can you remove all versions of java, except the sun one
[00:14] <danbhfive> VinceN: unfortunately, all the opensource versions seem to be a mess
[00:15] <uncmar> tsrk: I could show you if I had gimp,   I guess I could install on this tiny crappy laptop.
[00:15] <_VIM_> CyBurnett: why are you directing all your questions to me? ask the channel :)  I was just curious as why you couldnt do 'Alt + F2'
[00:15] <VinceN> danbhfive : I read that can cause issues with other packages that were set to use the default one if you removed it.  Could break dependances.  If you like I can still do it though
[00:15] <tsrk> uncmar, i think i mighta got it, i'm trying it now
[00:15] <Delvien> lenswipe: that work?
[00:16] <danbhfive> VinceN: mk, I dunno.  I have it this way on my system, mostly defaults, and im doing ok
[00:16] <CyBurnett> _VIM_, you people are unbeleivable??
[00:16] <uncmar> the resize should be instant. Because the image isn't actually scaled.  And the aspect ratio should remain locked.
[00:16] <R0b0t1> How do I tell ubuntu to use the function keys as normal function keys (and not as "special function", brightness, sound, etc) on my Apple keyboard? Please don't suggest external software -- other Linux distibutions recognize the function keys just fine.
[00:16] <_VIM_> !patience | CyBurnett
[00:16] <fiftyone> Any suggestions for a good newsreader that supports NZB?
[00:16] <danbhfive> VinceN: but I don't really use java that much, except for eclipse
[00:16] <_VIM_> CyBurnett: no ones getting paid here please be kind
[00:17] <CyBurnett> _VIM_, if you couldnt or didnt want to answer my question why did you waste my time?
[00:17] <_VIM_> omg
[00:17] <_VIM_> i asked you one question!
[00:17] <_VIM_> geesh
[00:17] <uncmar> CyBurnett: which desktop are using?
[00:17] <bongoman_> Is there someone who is familiar with sane  or the frontend Xsane ? It works but only when I start it from terminal with sudo, otherwise my scsi HP scanner is not recognized
[00:18] <CyBurnett> _VIM_, hey thats fine and I appreciate your help, but i thought this was a place to get help?
[00:18] <CyBurnett> umcar, Gnome
[00:19] <aaroninfidel> CyBurnett, stop cyber bullying.
[00:19] <Trabzonspor> hi
[00:19] <VinceN> danbhfive : Done, Sun is the sole java machine left
[00:19] <Trabzonspor> is there any command line irc client for ubuntu?
[00:19] <_VIM_> CyBurnett: its Superbowl sunday... a lot of people (the regulars) are not here.. :(
[00:19] <Krstnsn> vim what was that plugin i needed for gnome do?
[00:19] <CyBurnett> Go cyber fuck yourself!!
[00:19] <_VIM_> it's not a plugin its' a theme 'docky'
[00:19] <uncmar> Trabzonspor: irssi. that is what I am using.  works great. :P
[00:19] <Krstnsn> oh theme
[00:20] <Krstnsn> im assuming i have to find it since its not in the list
[00:20] <baz> whats the "templates" folder in /home for?
[00:20] <Krstnsn> temlates
[00:20] <GeorgeAScott> anybody used anyremote?
[00:20] <danbhfive> VinceN: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE#User%20installation             follow those instructions to install ganymede eclipse
[00:20] <baz> what are those
[00:21] <uncmar> CyBurnett: ALT-CTRL F1 or F2
[00:21] <uncmar> that should give you a terminal to work with.
[00:21] <CyBurnett> umcar, that gets me to a terminal
[00:21] <baatti> I have two questions, 1) is there an IME that I can use in Ubuntu for Japanese Language? 2) My sound isn't working properly. If I have the volume at half-way it isn't audible, and if its all the way up, its only about half as loud as it was before Ubuntu. How can I fix this?
[00:21] <uncmar> you can should be able to get an xterminal with.  DISPLAY=:0.0 xterm &
[00:22] <GeorgeAScott> batti, in volume control, check your levels.
[00:22] <uncmar> CyBurnett: then use ALT-CTRL F7  or maybe F6 to get your gnome display again.
[00:22] <GeorgeAScott> or in terminal use alsamixer to adjust levels
[00:22] <Stroganoff> baatti: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JapaneseInput
[00:22] <phix> hey
[00:23] <danbhfive> VinceN: gotta run.  Hope that works out
[00:23] <uncmar> CyBurnett: we trying to fix your X resolution problems?
[00:23] <CyBurnett> umcar, I already have my gnome display, but I have no icons or panels.
[00:23] <baatti> GeorgeAScott: what is 'Volume Control'? Are you referring to the speaker icon in my taskbar?
[00:23] <CyBurnett> umcar, thank you for helping me.
[00:23] <baatti> Stroganoff: thank you
[00:23] <uncmar> CyBurnett:  try running nautilus.  I would type nau[Tab]  Not sure of the spelling.
[00:24] <GeorgeAScott> baatti, if you right click to menu, click option to open volume control
[00:24] <uncmar> CyBurnett: do it from the xterm.  That way you remain in the x and can see the error messages at the same time.
[00:24] <CyBurnett> umcar, I would do that if I could open a terminal, but i have no icons or panels
[00:24] <Stroganoff> CyBurnett: alt+f2 -> xterm
[00:25] <GeorgeAScott> baatti... sorry... yes, right click the speaker you see
[00:25] <R0b0t1> How do I tell ubuntu to use the function keys as normal function keys (and not as "special function", brightness, sound, etc) on my Apple keyboard? Please don't suggest external software -- other Linux distibutions recognize the function keys just fine.
[00:25] <Krstnsn> wow... gnome do has made it a pita to install the new version
[00:25] <uncmar> CyBurnett: from the other terminal I todlyou to run. DISPLAY=0.0 xterm &  that should have launched a xterm on your X.
[00:25] <Delvien> Krstnsn: yep
[00:25] <baatti> GeorgeAScott: Ok, I'm there, I see a few options for Devices, but I'm not sure which I should be using. The default device is only half as loud as from Windows.
[00:26] <Krstnsn> they couldnt just put a .deb up on the site?
[00:26] <uncmar> CyBurnett: That should be DISPLAY=:0.0
[00:26] <baatti> GeorgeAScott: if I turn the volume all the way up to 100% in Volume Control, its not very loud, if I turn it down to 50%, there is no sound
[00:26] <Delvien> Krstnsn: not all gnome environments are debian based
[00:26] <Krstnsn> i know but still
[00:26] <uncmar> baatti: PCM volume control value?
[00:26] <Krstnsn> the one in the repos isnt upto date
[00:27] <baatti> uncmar PCM value is 100%
[00:27] <Krstnsn> and the command they said to enter into the terminal doesnt work
[00:27] <Delvien> Krstnsn: still in beta last time i looked ( the docky version )
[00:27] <addiaat> anyone know how to disable the function of a laptop touchpad that will change work spaces if you scroll on the right hand side ?  i hope to disable that as i hate switching workspaces accidentally
[00:27] <Krstnsn> it was on the mainpage of the site
[00:27] <hmiguel> hi
[00:27] <lenswipe> Delvien: Yaaaayyy! varnish is no more!!!! :D:D:D:D thanks !!
[00:28] <Delvien> addiaat: change it in compiz config look for "bindings" on desktop wall plugin, or cube, whichever you are running
[00:28] <Delvien> lenswipe: np
[00:28] <lenswipe> Delvien: lesson learned: never ever install varnish
[00:28] <CyBurnett> umcar, xterm Xt error: cant open display 0.0
[00:28] <uncmar> addiaat: I'd like to know how to do that as well.  I've just lived with it for now and not asked the question.  then again, I'm under fluxbuntu, so things are a little different.
[00:28] <GeorgeAScott> baatti, the default device is probably correct, check the other levels too.
[00:28] <Delvien> lenswipe: hehe im sure it will get fixed eventually.
[00:28] <lenswipe> Delvien: u think the ubuntu team would remove it from the repos? It breaks things, im trying to install skype and i couldnt cos of that
[00:28] <lenswipe> Delvien: can now, thanks to you :)
[00:28] <uncmar> lenswipe: did you ever get rid of varnish?
[00:29] <c0ntr0lp4n1k> can i set the ubuntu desktop to bott without gnome?
[00:29] <Delvien> lenswipe is it in the ubuntu repos?
[00:29] <baatti> GeorgeAScott: ok. I have all the values at 100%, still the same problem. Perhaps I need to reboot??
[00:29] <Delvien> lenswipe if so, report the bug on launchpad
[00:29] <lenswipe> Delvien: skype or varnish?
[00:29] <Delvien> lenswipe varnish
[00:29] <hmiguel> i have a problem....today a try to install openssh ser + scponly....now when i try to acess terminal i only got this message..."WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0"...
[00:29] <lenswipe> Delvien: in that case i wouldnt call it a bug, more of a virus...
[00:29] <uncmar> c0ntr0lp4n1k: yeah,  choose another Desktop environment.  KDE, Fluxbox, XFCE, ....
[00:29] <hmiguel> how i solve this?
[00:29] <lenswipe> Delvien: It screws configurations up and its f***ing impossible to remove >=[
[00:30] <Delvien> lenswipe two fundamentally different things :)
[00:30] <Krstnsn> ok so why does gnome do website tell me to put "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/do-core/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main" into the terminal, but i get a return that "deb" isnt a command
[00:30] <Krstnsn> wtf
[00:30] <lenswipe> Delvien: exactly, like im saying varnish isnt a virus but its behaving like one
[00:30] <bj_> hi, i was about to reformat the computer and reset it up with the windows/ubuntu dual boot, is there any advantage to installing one or the other first?
[00:30] <c0ntr0lp4n1k> uncmar i want to boot without graphical evironments
[00:30] <lenswipe> Delvien: doing damage and its impossible to remove nearly :(
[00:30] <jken146> Krstnsn, you put that in /etc/apt/sources.list not the terminal
[00:31] <Delvien> lenswipe: thats the beauty of linux, theres always some way to fix it :)
[00:31] <Krstnsn> oh shit
[00:31] <uncmar> c0ntr0lp4n1k: that's is easy too.  I don't recall where to remove that auto-start.  /etc/init.d ?  gdm???
[00:31] <Krstnsn> it could be more clear about it... honestly...
[00:31] <Delvien> too bad my spelling is terrible :D
[00:31] <lenswipe> Delvien: thats true, but it is annoying lol
[00:31] <CyBurnett> umcar, if i type DISPLAY=0.0 xterm &  I get [6] + Exit DISPLAY=0.0
[00:31] <Picataggio> Hello, installed 8.10, not able to set my monitor past 800x600. How do I get around this?
[00:31] <Delvien> bj_: windows first, then ubuntu, just makes it easier, and you dont have to reinstall grub
[00:31] <Level_5> anyone here can help me out configuring my wireless broadband card?
[00:32] <jken146> Krstnsn, type: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and copy-paste that line at the bottom of the file
[00:32] <uncmar> CyBurnett: there was an error in that line I gave you.
[00:32] <bj_> sounds good, i like easier :P
[00:32] <c0ntr0lp4n1k> uncmar, where is the autostart?
[00:32] <uncmar> CyBurnett: it is suppose to be DISPLAY=:0.0  See the : ?
[00:32] <karvec> @c0ntr0lp4n1k you can do an install from the minimal cd and not even have a desktop
[00:32] <CyBurnett> yes I already compesated for that :)
[00:33] <uncmar> c0ntr0lp4n1k: I was hoping somebody else would have answered that by now.  :(
[00:33] <Level_5> wireless help, anyone?
[00:33] <lenswipe> Level_5: sure whats the problem?
[00:33] <uncmar> CyBurnett: did it still give you an error?
[00:33] <Level_5> ok let me brief you
[00:34] <lenswipe> Level_5: come to a private chat, make things easier :)
[00:34] <Level_5> ok
[00:35] <CyBurnett> umcar, Yes. xterm Xt error: cant open display: :0.0
[00:35] <hmiguel> help m please
[00:36] <Krstnsn> whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa
[00:36] <Krstnsn> something just happened
[00:36] <Krstnsn> i typed "$ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install gnome-do" into the terminal
[00:36] <c0ntr0lp4n1k> can i upgrade the desktop version to server version?
[00:37] <Krstnsn> and its uninstalling ALLL sorts of stuff
[00:37] <Delvien> eh, i hate aptitude
[00:37] <Krstnsn> python
[00:37] <Delvien> for that reason
[00:37] <uncmar> CyBurnett: I'm going to do a test.  brb.
[00:37] <Krstnsn> is it ok?
[00:37] <Delvien> just use apt-get
[00:37] <Krstnsn> or is someting messing up?
[00:37] <uncmar> c0ntr0lp4n1k: servers don't have a Dekstop.  so you would simply remove the desktop environments.
[00:37] <hmiguel> i have a problem....today a try to install openssh ser + scponly....now when i try to acess terminal i only got this message..."WinSCP: this is end-of-file:0"...
[00:37] <Delvien> Krstnsn: possibly
[00:37] <hmiguel> help m pleas
[00:37] <CyBurnett> Is it possible to reinstall Ubuntu 8.04 over the top and not lose any data or settings?
[00:38] <Krstnsn> oh my god
[00:38] <Krstnsn> it seriously went to town on "removing"
[00:39] <rainmanp7> Is there a command to check that your Xorg and video drivers are acting togeather good ?
[00:39] <CyBurnett> Jack Sparrow is a Nice Guy!!
[00:39] <uncmar> CyBurnett: I'm trying to detrmine how to discover your X display number.
[00:39] <uncmar> it might be DISPLAY=:0
[00:39] <saderi> hi
[00:39] <Krstnsn> Delvien, can you please look at this and tell me if something horrid went down
[00:39] <rainmanp7> like is there a command to find up from the terminal what vdeo ddrivers your using as well ?
[00:39] <Krstnsn> http://www.pastebin.cz/14830
[00:40] <rainmanp7> CyBurnett yes
[00:40] <uncmar> rainmanp7: modprobe ?
[00:40] <koshar2> Krstnsn dont panic , just check the synaptic history and it all should be there what was changed, you can install ubuntu-desktop metapackage and all the default stuff will be reinstalled
[00:40] <CyBurnett> uncmar, Ok Ill try that.
[00:40] <Delvien> Krstnsn: this is why i dont use aptitude : )
[00:40] <Delvien> Krstnsn: it removed your kernel headers, and alot of python/java stuff
[00:40] <rainmanp7> CyBurnett do it without formating and remember your root because your still probably going to have to set it :)
[00:41] <Delvien> which may cause some apps to not function or crash
[00:41] <Krstnsn> why would it do that? thats messed up .. so what do i do to restore?
[00:41] <CyBurnett> rainmanp7, do what without formatting?
[00:42] <Delvien> Krstnsn: i'd just go through and install each package with apt-get
[00:42] <rainmanp7> CyBurnett I was able to reinstall over the top to fix things back to normal with out formating the driver and lossing all kinds of infromation
[00:42] <Krstnsn> im not that savvy
[00:42] <uncmar> CyBurnett: if you reinstall, simply delete or rename most all folders but your /home/
[00:42] <Delvien> Krstnsn:  "sudo apt-get install <package> <package> <package>" its not that hard
[00:43] <rainmanp7> uncmar ;) i like that idea
[00:43] <uncmar> CyBurnett: /home/ stores most everything.  Then again. I am by far not a linux expert
[00:43] <Winball> !aptitude | Delvien
[00:44] <Krstnsn> but how do i know what the packages are?
[00:44] <Delvien> Winball: please dont bot me. I know what it is and it just spams the channel
[00:44] <Delvien> Krstnsn: in your pastebin "removing .... "
[00:45] <CyBurnett> umcmar, Ok, thanks, Ill back up my /home directory
[00:45] <Krstnsn> so all 50 of those thing shave to be apt get? is there a command that restores everything?
[00:45] <md22> hello
[00:46] <md22> do any of you guys play World of warcraft in Ubuntu?
[00:46] <CyBurnett> I have 3 virtual os's running in Virtualbox, If reinstall Ubuntu 8.04 will they still work?
[00:46] <philsf> I'm having consistent kernel panics since yesterday. they happen with my main OS (hardy), with a test OS (Debian sarge, kernel 2.6.8) and with a Hardy LiveCD and a LiveDVD. It happens early in the boot process, with a message that modprobe failed for some reason. I can boot no system in that machine in order to get whatever log files that might be useful there, and I don't think it's a hardware issue because I have a Windows XP there working properly
[00:46] <philsf>  (display, video 3d, audio, network, bluetooth mouse, etc). Any suggestions?
[00:46] <rdw200169> md22, i do.  it works great
[00:46] <koshar2> Krstnsn check the install log, synaptic => file => history
[00:46] <Matt_S> md22, so do i
[00:46] <md22> nice
[00:47] <koshar2> Krstnsn and again if you install ubuntu -desktop it WILL restore all the default packages
[00:47] <Sylphid> philsf,  do your *nix installs share the same swap partition?
[00:47] <Matt_S> and it actually runs better than in windows md22, I use linux during PvP because latency is way reduced on my ubuntu
[00:47] <rdw200169> md22, the most prevalent problems that arise are: a bad installation, it's best to copy the folder from a working installation, and d3d/opengl issues.  note that WoW.exe takes an -opengl option to put it in hardware acceleration
[00:47] <Krstnsn> http://www.pastebin.cz/14831 it told me that.. didnt say it removed anything
[00:47] <GeorgeAScott> any success with ganyremote from anybody?  i'm having issues connecting to the computer thru java
[00:47] <philsf> Sylphid: yes, they do, but I haven't used Debian in ages
[00:48] <rdw200169> md22, otherwise, most of your problems are solved by tweaking the Config.wtf file from the tips out there on the internet
[00:48] <youyi> hi
[00:48] <rdw200169> md22, that, and all the add-ons i've tried work just like they're supposed to
[00:48] <youyi> who's used kicker
[00:48] <Sylphid> philsf, it may be a problem with your hard drive, if only the *nix installs are problematic and they all share the same swap space more than likely there are bad blocks on your swap partition
[00:49] <youyi> i don't know why i can't fing it in the applications
[00:49] <Matt_S> md22, if you need tips on your config.wtf file here's a good link http://www.blog.highub.com/linux/world-of-warcraft-configuration-configwtf-on-ubuntu/
[00:49] <uncmar> CyBurnett:  you will have to reinstall VirtualBox, but otherwise, they should.
[00:49] <Krstnsn> koshar: when i apt get that ubuntu-desktop it says ... E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[00:49] <Krstnsn> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[00:49] <nilminus> how can i get fewer samples from an inputfile using gnuplot?
[00:49] <philsf> Sylphid: I could try disabling or deleting it, but does the live CD use a swap if it's available?
[00:49] <daryl2> easy way to have apt-get download alsa build it from source, and reinstall it ?
[00:49] <rdw200169> Matt_S, thanks, i didn't feel like googling it ;)
[00:49] <youyi> 说句中国话阿
[00:49] <coz_> guys is there no #ubuntu+1 anymore? or is there a separated channel for beta ?
[00:49] <Ademan> erm, is the wine repository not working for anyone else? (intrepid)
[00:49] <Sylphid> philsf, not automatically to my knowledge
[00:49] <CyBurnett> uncmar, Thank you for your time and patience :)
[00:49] <rdw200169> !cn | youyi
[00:49] <philsf> Sylphid: if I mkswap it again, will it check for and mark bad blocks?
[00:50] <md22> Matt_S:thanks
[00:50] <Matt_S> rdw200169, no problem ;) im a bookmark junkie heh
[00:50] <Matt_S> md22, your welcome
[00:50] <Krstnsn> koshar2, nevermind.. i had process running
[00:50] <savvas> Krstnsn: find out which process id had it running: sudo cat /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[00:50] <savvas> ah, heh
[00:50] <uncmar> CyBurnett: you're welcome
[00:50] <Sylphid> philsf, it should ... you could also run badblocks again from a live cd to verify the partition
[00:50] <rdw200169> Matt_S, which is why neither of us will ever give up firefox (heh heh)
[00:50] <youyi> thanks
[00:50] <Sylphid> philsf, s/again/against/
[00:51] <philsf> Sylphid: that's what's driving me nuts: AFAICT, the live CD gives the same error
[00:51] <Matt_S> rdw200169, exactly lol
[00:51] <Krstnsn> ok
[00:51] <Krstnsn> sweet thanks
[00:51] <uncmar> I wish I knew how to usee top. :(
[00:51] <philsf> Sylphid: meaning I don't understand the panic message enough to tell the difference
[00:51] <Vinceman> if something in your KTorrent has status stalled, when will it resume?
[00:51] <Krstnsn> now i gotta figure out how to get this damned .8 gnome do installed
[00:51] <Sylphid> philsf, what is the message?
[00:51] <koshar2> uncmar its not hard just tupe top in cli
[00:52] <rdw200169> Krstnsn, if you're on Hardy, it's not gonna work; i've tried in much vain
[00:52] <philsf> Sylphid: it looks like a backtrace, and hopefully it's being saved to kern.log, but I can't boot the live system
[00:52] <Krstnsn> no intrepid
[00:52] <philsf> Sylphid: I tried opening a shell from the text installer, but it didn't mount my lvm partitions
[00:53] <rdw200169> Krstnsn, hmm... the gnome-do guys have a PPA, they also seem to suggest that .8 is in the ubuntu  repos
[00:53] <uncmar> koshar2: that launches it, It doesn't explain it.
[00:53] <Sylphid> philsf, have you changed any partitions recently
[00:53] <rdw200169> Krstnsn, https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa
[00:54] <Krstnsn> rdw200169, i just got .6 out of the repos haha
[00:54] <philsf> Sylphid: recently I added a new HD, and incorporated it into my /home filesystem ( I use lvm)
[00:54] <idefix> why are entries in KTorrent sometimes stalled?
[00:54] <koshar2> uncmar "man top" explains it
[00:54] <rdw200169> Krstnsn, I dunno, it was vague on their site, regardless, on that link i gave you they have .8
[00:54] <philsf> Sylphid: this shouldn't have any effect into anything related to boot process, hardware in general, or other drivers, AFAIK
[00:54] <Sylphid> philsf, can you verify that the partition order did not change
[00:55] <coz_> nevermind I typed it incorrectly :)
[00:55] <Krstnsn> ya im trying to figure out how to do this ppa stuff
[00:55] <Sylphid> philsf, or the partition UUID's
[00:55] <philsf> Sylphid: right now I'm in my laptop (the problem is in my desktop)
[00:55] <Sylphid> philsf, of course that would not cause problems with a live cd
[00:56] <donster> ^2
[00:56] <philsf> Sylphid: I cna see there is a new kernel in the -security repo, and I'm worried this might be a regression related to it
[00:56] <liubo> 我的显卡驱动安装不了，显卡是FX5200的。更新过之后3D效果就打不开了。
[00:57] <philsf> !cn | liubo
[00:57] <Sylphid> philsf, what live cd's have you tried?
[00:57] <philsf> Sylphid: hardy, both a desktop CD and the dvd
[00:57] <liubo> thank u..i'm new
[00:57] <Sylphid> philsf, and both failed
[00:58] <philsf> Sylphid: correct
[00:58] <NimbleRabit> Is there a way to make my sound louder?  When I turn mplayer or amarok or -anything- up to full volume and my headphones all the way up it's still too quiet
[00:59] <philsf> Sylphid: I have a nvidia card I can remove for tests, but since it's working in windows, and not working in the live cd, it shouldn't be a regression in the new kernel
[00:59] <fosco_> NimbleRabit, there are several volume controls, pump up them all
[00:59] <IndyGunFreak> NimbleRabit: right click your sound applet, open volume control, make sure "Master" and "PCM" are both all thew way up
[00:59] <NimbleRabit> Everything in "volume control" I've turned all the way up, master, pcm, front, line-in
[01:00] <Sylphid> philsf, correct... the only thing that makes sense is hardware... have any *nix installs worked since the new drive was installed?
[01:00] <fiftyone> hey can someone help me, how do you use par2??
[01:00] <IndyGunFreak> NimbleRabit: turn your speakers up..lol
[01:00] <NimbleRabit> heh they don't go very loud.  I guess I can live with it, everything is just about 60% of what it was on windows
[01:01] <fiftyone> i installed par2 and now i have a file that has some par2 files but im not sure what to do with them...
[01:02] <philsf> Sylphid: hardy yes, for over a week, debian I haven't used in over a year
[01:03] <n_> hi, i want to rum my soundoutput on a different plug what can i do?
[01:03] <Sylphid> philsf, any bios upgrades?
[01:03] <philsf> Sylphid: no, not even bios configuration changes
[01:04] <philsf> Sylphid: when I put the new HD, I just made sure it was second in the boot order
[01:04] <Sylphid> philsf, can you check the system clock to make sure the battery didnt die
[01:04] <ninix> hi, why cannot I install qt4-assistant package ? Package qt4-assistant is
[01:04] <ninix> not available, but is referred to by another package
[01:05] <philsf> Sylphid: I will. do you have any ideas following this?
[01:05] <ninix> there are a few other packages that I have this problem also
[01:06] <Sylphid> philsf, my first concern is why it wont boot from a live disk... obviously they worked before and that they are not now so that indicates a hardware issue or bad disk
[01:06] <sockets> hey guys, if i use "checkinstall" instead of "sudo make install" would it be any better? i want clean installations & uninstallations (sudo apt-get autoremove for example) to work properly..
[01:07] <Sylphid> philsf, since multiple disks arnt working were down to hardware
[01:07] <Raylz> sockets: yep, definitely
[01:07] <demonspork> using a WinFast TV2000 XP Deluxe, how do I get sound without physically plugging the audio output into my line in jack
[01:07] <ninix> sockets: yes...
[01:07] <Sylphid> philsf, may want to strip your hardware down to the bare minimum and see if it works then add one piece back at a time to see what breaks it
[01:07] <sockets> thanks guys
[01:09] <Sylphid> philsf, i think once you get a live cd to boot you will find your problem with your installed *nix's
[01:09] <philsf> Sylphid: apart from the nvidia card, everrything else is onboard (a spare video, audio and ethernet). I tried disabling audio, since parts of the trace included snd_intel_* strings that resemble the alsa modules I use
[01:09] <philsf> Sylphid: unfortunatly disabling the audio card in the BIOS didn't make any difference
[01:09] <flashesbu> ok guys i just built my first ubuntu box... now i finely got it to install... kinda like pulling teath now whenever i boot up the computer it runs very very slow and lagy wat would be casueing this?
[01:10] <Sylphid> philsf, have you ran a memtest?
[01:10] <poet> full screen apps show up behind the gnome panels when running through wine.  How can I fix this?
[01:10] <koshar2> flashesbu specs?
[01:10] <philsf> Sylphid: I also didn't check the memory with memtest, because windows is working, and I spent hours playing neverwinter, but since I now basically out of ideas, I'll have to try that
[01:10] <flashesbu> 3.2 gh p4    500g hd and 512 mgs of ram
[01:11] <Sylphid> philsf, cant hurt to try booting a live cd with HD's disconnected
[01:11] <koshar2> flashesbu should be pretty nimble with those specs, the live disc worked ok?
[01:11] <mic_lovin> i believe in letting ubuntu do critical updates and such ..BUT.. i want my laptop to be lean and mean ... i don't need cups, bind9, etc, etc, etc ... is there some way to limit the automatic updaes to just those that are in the critical category?
[01:11] <philsf> Sylphid: good idea, I'm writing down all your suggestions, I'll be home in a couple hours to try them all
[01:11] <flashesbu> umm ya... like it runs ook as soon as it boots then just starts slowing down slower and slower
[01:11] <koshar2> mic_lovin if yu dont need cups remove it
[01:12] <koshar2>  flashesbu run top and see what processes arew running
[01:12] <Taggard> How do I change the device I play sound through?
[01:12] <flashesbu> top? im new to this
[01:12] <Sylphid> philsf, any usb devices plugged in?
[01:12] <tuxfan> can you put a dif background picture to each dif workspace?
[01:12] <Mood> flashesbu: bring up an xterm and type "top" into it
[01:13] <Raylz> mic_lovin: i dont know if there is such an option, but if you really want a slim system, try arch or gentoo
[01:13] <Mood> flashesbu: xterm = terminal
[01:13] <flashesbu> ok brb
[01:13] <Thurin1> Raylz: Arch > Gentoo
[01:13] <inktri> i've got the acpi WINDOWS driver for my laptop and no appropriate drivers exist for ubuntu/linux. how can i use these windows drivers under ubuntu? would i use ndiswrapper? or is that only for wireless drivers?
[01:13] <_VIM_> ALT + F2 type top in there
[01:13] <philsf> Sylphid: bluetooth dongle, UPS and printer (printer turned off while testing)
[01:13] <Thurin1> Gentoo is fun, if you have no life.
[01:13] <Raylz> Thurin1: depends on your needs ;)
[01:13] <mic_lovin> are arch and gentoo laptop distros?
[01:13] <koshar2> _VIM_ alt f2 wont keep the terminal open
[01:14] <Thurin1> mic_lovin: There is no such thing as a laptop distro..
[01:14] <Wunderbar> lol
[01:14] <Raylz> mic_lovin: id would say all linux distros are ready for a laptop
[01:14] <Thurin1> mic_lovin: They are slimmer distros aimed at intermediate to advanced linux users.
[01:14] <_VIM_> koshar2: who said he needed terminal?
[01:14] <Sylphid> philsf, try disconnecting the ups primarily
[01:14] <Sylphid> philsf, but again try getting rid of them all just in case
[01:14] <koshar2> _VIM_ to see the output, however there is a checkbox in alt f32 to run in terminal
[01:14] <Raylz> mic_lovin: i like this a lot
[01:15] <Raylz> mic_lovin: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_vs_Others#Arch_vs_Gentoo
[01:15] <philsf> Sylphid: ok, bare metal, and build up from there
[01:15] <Sylphid> philsf, yup
[01:15] <kouya1> does anyone know how to make pidgin autostart when turn on pc?
[01:15] <ng0n> me too
[01:15] <_VIM_> koshar2: ah i assumed he knew that :)
[01:15] <mic_lovin> shwanks
[01:15] <koshar2> kouya1 add it to sessions
[01:15] <Guest74583> Fred Quayle
[01:15] <signornessuno> how to permanently set my keyboard map? i use " loadkeys azerty..." and it go but when reboot it return to querty...
[01:15] <philsf> Sylphid: thanks for the suggestions, I'll try them all in a while, and thanks again!
[01:15] <philsf> Sylphid++
[01:16] <Sylphid> philsf, one more thing thatt could help with diagnosing
[01:16] <Sylphid> philsf, a live usb
[01:16] <_VIM_> The "Run in terminal" check mark box is kinda obvious, so i didnt suggest it :)
[01:16] <Sylphid> philsf, just incase the cdrom is problematic
[01:16] <Sylphid> philsf, unlikely but never know
[01:16] <Static-->  /chanopt confmode on
[01:16] <philsf> Sylphid: yeah, I can try to build one, there's a new package around for that, right?
[01:17] <SuiDog1> Hey there.. I have a sata card that I know works with ubuntu .. I used it in my old box.  But I added to my new box and now can't figure out how to get the module loaded .. any help?
[01:17] <Sylphid> philsf, there is a utility to do it built in to intrepid
[01:17] <koshar2> _VIM_: ﻿flashesbu said " top? im new to this"
[01:17] <Sylphid> philsf, you can make it from a live cd on a different box
[01:17] <_VIM_> right
[01:17] <inktri> hi guys. i've got the acpi WINDOWS driver for my laptop and no appropriate drivers exist for ubuntu/linux. how can i use these windows drivers under ubuntu? would i use ndiswrapper? or is that only for wireless drivers?
[01:17] <Sylphid> philsf, there are other options though if that is not an option
[01:17] <signornessuno> how to permanently set my keyboard map? i use " loadkeys azerty..." and it go but when reboot it return to querty...
[01:17] <Mood> SuiDog1: did you try lspci like i suggested in #xubuntu?
[01:17] <raylu> inktri: yes, that's only for wireless
[01:18] <_VIM_> koshar2: I'll have to clean my glasses or monitor! :)
[01:18] <mic_lovin> another thing.  i set up a samba server in my house but ubuntu won't copy my dvds to it.  i'm trying to make LEGAL copies here.  any suggestions?
[01:18] <SuiDog1> How do I add the sata modules to 8.10.. or better yet can I have it auto recognize it?
[01:18] <inktri> raylu: so it's not possible to use this windows driver under ubuntu?
[01:18] <raylu> inktri: nope.
[01:18] <inktri> raylu: k thanks :(
[01:18] <kurisuto> I'm trying to install the packages "python-pythonmagick" and "perlmagick".  They appear on packages,ubuntu.com, but when I type "aptitude search magick", neither one of them appears in the list.  Any suggestions on how to proceed?
[01:19] <SuiDog1> Can anyone help with me with my sata card?  I installed the card after I installed so now I need to know how to add the modules for sata
[01:20] <sholsinger> Anyone have any tips for getting the Realtek ALC889A audio chip to work in 8.10? I recently blew away 8.04 (cause audio and video support failed after updates and RAM Upgrade)
[01:20] <Guest45289> ciao a tutti
[01:20] <kurisuto> If a package appears on packages.ubuntu.com, should I expect for it to appear when I do "aptitude search"?  Or is that not a safe assumption?
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto: its a halfway decent bet, but not a sure thing.
[01:21] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto: most the stuff there, is in the repositories
[01:21] <Guest45289> !list
[01:21] <Wunderbar> Anyone have any tips for getting the Realtek ALC889A audio chip to work in 8.10? I recently blew away 8.04 (cause audio and video support failed after updates and RAM Upgrade)- lol
[01:21] <tuxfan> any decent guide for Wotlk wine install?
[01:21] <bmorris> I've mounted a file over smb.  Both the server and client are runnin ubuntu 8.10.  Everytime I try and create a file/folder in the mounted directory I get an error saying that I don't have thecorrect permissions.   This is the command I gave to mount the directory: sudo smbmount \\\\209.90.***.***\\workspace workspace/ -o user=bmorris,pass=password what am I doing wrong?
[01:21] <root__> Hello, i get GRUB error 17 and I dont know what to do
[01:22] <Wunderbar> that us horrible
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> root__: google grub error 17.. do you ahve access to a working PC?
[01:22] <DIFH-ice1oot> tuxfan: just install, works out of the box
[01:22] <Wunderbar> I remember getting a grub loader error 17 when I attempted to repartition my drive in windows
[01:22] <Wunderbar> worst idea ever
[01:22] <root__> yes!
[01:22] <IndyGunFreak> Wunderbar: its a pretty common grub error.
[01:22] <emsenn> Is there anyplace a list of all boot parameters that ubuntu/grub takes?
[01:22] <kurisuto> IndyGunFreak: I see that there's a link there to download the packages, but I don't know what to do once I download it.  It ends with .deb
[01:22] <root__> Wunderbar, that was my fault too!
[01:22] <yow|laptop> bmorris - did you chmod and chown the dir where its mounted as root to give full access?
[01:22] <root__> How did you solved it Wunderbar?
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto: most of those packages, are in the repositories, install them from synaptic if you need them
[01:23] <koshar2> root__ "Invalid device requested" check your menu.1st file
[01:23] <Wunderbar> reinstall- it only affected my ubuntu partition
[01:23] <tuxfan> cant access dvd
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> root__: i would try using yuour live CD, to reinstall grub, or.. download the super grub disk, and try using it.
[01:23] <root__> IndzGunFreak: Im running PartitionMagic right now
[01:23] <Wunderbar> do not use partition magic
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> !grub | root__ follow the instructions for "losing grub after windows reinstall"
[01:23] <Wunderbar> never, ever
[01:23] <Wunderbar> horrible app
[01:23] <IndyGunFreak> root__: what the hell are you running parted magic for?
[01:23] <root__> ???
[01:24] <daedra> I'm getting LOTS of errors when I exit an X session
[01:24] <bmorris> yow|laptop, no it's still owned by my server account.  Can I do that hot or do I need to unmount, do the changes and then remount?
[01:24] <root__> I resized my swap area
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> why?
[01:24] <Wunderbar> I tried to do the same
[01:24] <daedra> !paste
[01:24] <root__> it was 37 gb :O
[01:24] <Wunderbar> maybe he had too much unused space in one partition
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> root__: did it work fine until you resized swap?
[01:24] <zed> nvidia driver spose to work with jaunty ?
[01:24] <fluitfries_> is there any solution at all for running iTunes under Ubuntu that will provide both iPod Touch support and Cover Flow (Direct3D) ?
[01:24] <root__> yes!
[01:24] <IndyGunFreak> lol, well thats a good reason
[01:25] <n_> is there a way to change the output plug for outgoing sound?
[01:25] <root__> i allready installed it new
[01:25] <IndyGunFreak> !ipod | fluitfries_ there's some hints on a link here
[01:25] <emsenn> Does anyone know the grub parameters that would allow me to point to either 1) filesystem.squashfs or 2) the unsquashed version of the files (Using a liveusb with grub)
[01:25] <bmorris> yow|laptop, does the group need to be root as well or just the owner?
[01:25] <root__> mounted it and reinstalled....its too much for me now...
[01:25] <fluitfries_> IndyGunFreak: thanks!
[01:26] <IndyGunFreak> root__: you might be better off trying a clean install of ubuntu, and deleting those old partitions, and setting things up properly, or like i said, try to use an ubuntu live CD to reinstall grub.
[01:26] <dou213> hey guys, how can i see the computer name?
[01:26] <emsenn> "hostname"
[01:26] <yow|laptop> bmorris - i would do 777 and set it to your user and the users default group
[01:26] <emsenn> (to dou213)
[01:26] <fluitfries_> IndyGunFreak: unfortunately nothing that will provide for those 2 requirements though.  :(  jailbreaking isn't an option since the iPod is a work device.
[01:27] <root__> Okay IndyGunFreak
[01:27] <koshar2> root__ which prolly relabeled sda1 to ada2 ect, you will likely just need to run fdisk -l and use the info to update the menu.1st file
[01:27] <IndyGunFreak> fluitfries_: then either virtualbox/vmware.. or dual boot... I have a Zune, and its the only reason I still have an XP partition (my music, etc, is on a shared partition)
[01:27] <root__> koshar2: I did a few times!
[01:27] <ubuntu_> hello, if i repartition a disk with windows on it, will data be moved, or lost?
[01:27] <kurisuto> IndyGunFreak recommended that I "install from synaptic if you need them."  I'm new to Ubuntu, so I googled for synaptic.  Looks like it's a graphical interface for installing packages, but I'm on a strictly command-line server.
[01:27] <fluitfries_> IndyGunFreak: right right, those VM's will provide usd support for the iPod Touch, however no Direct3D that I can see so there will be no album art in iTunes.  :(
[01:27] <root__> I listed all my partitions...update-grub and the other crap....nothing worked!!!!
[01:28] <Raylz> ubuntu_ lost
[01:28] <fluitfries_> *usb
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto: oh ok, you didn't mention that, google "apt-get" or "aptitude". they are command line tool equivalents to synaptic
[01:28] <emsenn> kurisuto: try the command 'aptitude'
[01:28] <demonspork> how do I reference my audio when I am opening a capture device in VLC? I am piping the sound over the line in and the default /dev/dsp doesn't do the trick. I am trying to use the sound that is coming in over my line-in jack
[01:28] <daedra> http://pastebin.ca/1324963
[01:28] <kurisuto> IndyGunFreak: So if a package name doesn't show up in aptitude, what's the right way to get it?
[01:28] <Dusk_> i have a flash problem...when i try to play flash games on browser it is stopping in a grey pop-up screen
[01:28] <IndyGunFreak> fluitfries_: i've never done it from vmware/virtualbox.. but i've just read about people using it for Ipods/Iphones..
[01:28] <bmorris> yow|laptop, the directory is 777 and owned/grouped by my default user but I'm still getting errors
[01:28] <daedra> Xorg crazy errors :(
[01:28] <root__> So, for example, if i reinstall my xubuntu 8.10, its just my root data? (/home is another part.)
[01:28] <koshar2> root__ also check the devices file, that maps the sd** format of drive partition to the hd0 style grub prefers
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto:  ifi t doesn't show up, you may not have all your sources available in your source list
[01:29] <fluitfries_> IndyGunFreak: I've done it, it's great except for the lack of Cover Flow.  :)
[01:29] <root__> Which one koshar2? What is the name?
[01:29] <yow|laptop> bmorris - are you mounting a file or a directory? at first you said a file so im double checking
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> fluitfries_: oh ok.
[01:29] <ubuntu_> hello, if i repartition a disk with windows on it, will data be moved, or lost?
[01:29] <bmorris> yow|laptop, woops I'm mounting a directory
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_: *should* be moved
[01:29] <yow|laptop> bmorris - pm if you want
[01:29] <IndyGunFreak> ubuntu_: but have a capable backup
[01:30] <ubuntu_> ok
[01:30] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:30] <koshar2> root__ devices.list i think
[01:30] <kurisuto> IndyGunFreak: I think you mean that there's some list of server(s) which aptitude contacts to find packages, and that my list (wherever it is) may be incomplete.  Is that correct?
[01:30] <ubuntu_> thanks
[01:30] <root__> koshar2 do u know the name of the devices? Ah okay thank you koshar2
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto: thats what i'm saying
[01:30] <koshar2> device.map sorry
[01:30] <koshar2> root__ located in /boot/grub
[01:30] <emsenn> I hate to ask again, but does anyone know how I could modify my menu.lst to have Ubuntu 8.10 look for the filesystem.squashfs in a different file, or to look for the files with filesystem?
[01:30] <IndyGunFreak> koshar2: if you're new to linux, why didn't you install a GUI?.. it would make some of this a bit easier for you
[01:30] <kurisuto> IndyGunFreak: Any pointer on how to fix that?
[01:31] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto: what are you trying to install?
[01:31] <dou213> emsenn, very strange, if i run 'hostname' he gives me back my domain-name in this form: computername.domainname.com... (this is the server), when i scan the network with angry ip scanner from windows clients, the computer name which appears there is totally different, like Johnny
[01:31] <kurisuto> IndyGunFreak: python-pythonmagick and perlmagick
[01:31] <RenatoSilva> does launchpad have personal VCS repositories? Is it Bazaar?
[01:31] <koshar2> IndyGunFreak i dont have a problem here? and i are running a gui,
[01:31] <emsenn> launchpad uses bazaar, renatosilva
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> kurisuto: i don't know..
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> koshar2: i think i confused you with someone else
[01:32] <emsenn> dou213: I'm not sure then.  What did you mean by "name" if it wasn't the hostname?
[01:32] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:32] <hz> hi, i have a question
[01:32] <daedra> !ask
[01:32] <emsenn> IndyGunFreak: you mistook koshar2 for kurisuto I think
[01:32] <IndyGunFreak> emsenn: i said that
[01:33] <emsenn> Must have missed it
[01:33] <dou213> emsenn, the computer name actually, i think u got it right from the first time, what is the suntax to change the hostname? i-ll try it this way
[01:33] <root__> I WONT install xubuntu again!!! it will take soooo much time :(
[01:33] <kurisuto> IndyGunFreak: Oh, you were asking me why I didn't install a GUI.  It's because the machine in question is a server (not even in the same state as me).  It's not on my desktop.
[01:33] <root__> Isnt there another oportunity?
[01:33] <emsenn> dou213: You can change it with the hostname command, but that won't update the multitude of places it is used.  Try googling for "ubuntu change hostname" for recommendations
[01:34] <root__> /boot/grub/devices checked koshar2
[01:34] <fiftyone> hi can someone help me with combining files?
[01:34] <daedra> kurisuto: you can still run a gui
[01:34] <Pici> !hostname | dou213
[01:34] <Wunderbar> boom
[01:34] <emsenn> bang
[01:34] <dou213> thx
[01:34] <koshar2> root__ pastebook fdisk -l and your boot entry of menu.1st, and your devices.map file
[01:34] <daedra> bosh
[01:35] <emsenn> biff
[01:35] <Pici> !ot
[01:35] <philsf> !ask | fiftyone
[01:35] <root__> thank you koshar2 ill do
[01:35] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:35] <koshar2> root__ you may even find a changed uuid if you used a new parttiion
[01:36] <root__> uuids did not changed.
[01:36] <root__> i already run blkid
[01:36] <coleman> hi can some1 assist me in getting wifi to work on ubuntu? i tryed fwcutter already for bcm43xx
[01:36] <koshar2> root__ ok just checking
[01:36] <coleman> ?
[01:36] <daedra> coleman: i can try
[01:36] <fiftyone> philsh thanks for that super useful advice. however mommy taught me that it is polite to ask first.
[01:36] <Crayboff> umm, I dual boot (installed via Wubi) and I like the longhorn boot startup which is nice and clean, but I downloaded startup manager and now i have to go through two boot screens (longhorn and then grub) could someone tell me how to undo that and get it so that I don't have to go through two startups?
[01:36] <coleman> ok
[01:36] <coleman> so where do i begin?
[01:36] <daedra> coleman: find out the exact model of your card using lspci/lsusb
[01:37] <Jordan_U> coleman, What is the exact chipset and what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[01:37] <fiftyone> i downloaded a video and it's in a whole bunch of different parts for example.   video.mp4.002
[01:37] <chrometiger> im using 8.04 and im trying to install zsnes   but its not coming up in synaptic or using apt-get   any suggestions ?
[01:37] <fiftyone> how do i combine them?
[01:37] <daedra> coleman: what does ifconfig show you?
[01:37] <Ademan> has anyone here built awesome wm latest (3 or something like that) on intrepid? it wants never versions of xcb and i don't seem able to backport them from jaunty...
[01:37] <daedra> coleman: also try iwconfig and iwpriv
[01:37] <coleman> 1sec plz so many questions lol
[01:37] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:38] <Chocotoff> cat file.001 file.002 file.003 file.004 > outputfile
[01:38] <daedra> Chocotoff: meant to type that in commandline?
[01:39] <coleman> Ubuntu 8.04
[01:39] <coleman>                 - the Hardy Heron - released in April 2008  Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[01:39] <coleman> 06:06.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)
[01:39] <FloodBot1> coleman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <RenatoSilva> emsenn: may I create a bazaar repository to me?
[01:39] <coleman> wlan0     Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:14:a5:c4:67:b3
[01:39] <coleman>           UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
[01:39] <coleman>           RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
[01:39] <coleman>           TX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
[01:39] <coleman>           collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
[01:39] <FloodBot1> coleman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:39] <coleman>           RX bytes:0 (0.0 B)  TX bytes:0 (0.0 B)
[01:39] <koshar2> fiftyone its prolly rared
[01:39] <RenatoSilva> emsenn: I'd like to version control my stuff
[01:39] <emsenn> There's help files about using launchpad, I don't know offhand
[01:39] <kurisuto> OK: I looked in "/etc/apt/sources.list", and it says "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main".  I notice that on packages.ubuntu.com, these packages are labeled with "intrepid".  Is my problem that I'm currently pointing to a version of Ubuntu which doesn't contain these packages?
[01:39] <RenatoSilva> emsenn: they're not prooooojects, just my stuff
[01:39]  * daedra facepalms
[01:39] <root__> koshar2 > http://fr.pastebin.com/d76592a4d
[01:39] <emsenn> No idea, sorry
[01:40] <emsenn> I don't use version control, I simply yell at people on a project until they cave to my demands.
[01:40] <Chocotoff> Dadra: is it 001 002 or r01 r02
[01:40] <daedra> praise natural selection
[01:40] <Chocotoff> the 2nd one means it´s rarred
[01:40] <root__> Since 4 hours now i`m getting sick!
[01:40] <chrometiger> im using 8.04 and im trying to install zsnes   but its not coming up in synaptic or using apt-get   any suggestions ?
[01:40] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:40] <Guest48482> Fred
[01:40] <monchevique> http://www.lyricsdepot.com/soundgarden/fopp.html what does fopp mean in this song?? cuz i know what fop means
[01:40] <Chocotoff> or else you should could use the above method.... some file managers do the trick as well (ex. Krusader)
[01:40] <daedra> Chocotoff: what are you talking about?
[01:41] <Chocotoff> ah sorry, fiftyone i meant.
[01:41] <Jordan_U> coleman, Did you install bcm43xx-fwcutter or b43-fwcutter
[01:41] <daedra> !ot | monchevique
[01:42] <koshar2> root__ does it boot to windows ok?
[01:42] <root__> no neither windows neither anything else
[01:42] <mic_lovin> !offtopic
[01:42] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:42] <root__> Just the message: GRUB STAGE 1.5 GRUB ERROR 17 NO PARTITION FOUND
[01:42] <koshar2> root__ does the first stage of grub load , ie pressing escape and viewing the boot options?
[01:43] <Wunderbar> brings back bad memories
[01:43] <root__> No, koshar2
[01:43] <Crayboff> do I need /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[01:43] <daedra> Crayboff: PROBABLY
[01:43] <fiftyone> koshar2 i am sure it is rar'e but i cant figure out how to get the files al combined
[01:43] <demonspork> how do I reference my audio when I am opening a capture device in VLC? I am piping the sound over the line in and the default /dev/dsp doesn't do the trick. I am trying to use the sound that is coming in over my line-in jack
[01:43] <philsf> fiftyone: mommy didn't use IRC. in a crowded channel like this one, is improper etiquette to ask to ask. as for your question, the method for combining the parts is dependent of the method of splitting used
[01:43] <philsf> fiftyone: what is the format of the split files you have? You can use the 'file' command to find that out, if you don't know already
[01:43] <fiftyone> also the first file is actually viewable in the vido player
[01:43] <koshar2> root__ ahh then i think as otherpointed out you may need to reinstall the grub loader.
[01:43] <koshar2> root__  its not ahrd
[01:43] <root__> Just reinstall?
[01:43] <koshar2> !grub
[01:44] <root__> okay koshar2, thank you very much for your help
[01:44] <Crayboff> daedra, well I'm dual booting (installed via wubi) and i was using whatever the vista boot thing was (longhorn?) and then I installed startup manager which undated /boot/grub/menu.lst so now whenever I start up, i have to go through two boot screens
[01:44] <koshar2> root__ you basicall boot of a live disc, locate the config file and run grub from the live cd
[01:44] <Crayboff> know how to undo that?
[01:45] <root__> i`ll try it out now and leave you all alone folks. thanks again koshar2 u r very cool!
[01:45] <root__> ok
[01:45] <root__> cu
[01:45] <ace_1> does ubuntu 8.10 support the new intel x58 chipset at all?
[01:45] <fiftyone> Chocotoff yea i have 10 files they are from 001 - 009 file.001 actually opens a part of the video and the other parts are "unknown"
[01:45] <Jordan_U> Crayboff, Remove startup manager / re-install Vista's bootloader
[01:45] <Crayboff> jordan_U, umm how do re-install vista's bootloader?
[01:46] <Crayboff> Jordan_U: plus vista's bootloader still works, just when I choose to boot into Ubuntu, it then takes me to the grub screen
[01:46]  * kurisuto sighs.
[01:46] <iamelite> Greetings all
[01:46] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:46] <Chocotoff> fiftyone, i know you krusader does the job, perhaps also other file managers.. but from a terminal it´s still cat file.001 file.002 etc. > output.avi
[01:47] <TopKatz> I just did a upgrade from .04 to .10 and my nvidia drivers are not working
[01:47] <TopKatz> can any one help with that
[01:47] <TopKatz> ?
[01:47] <Jordan_U> Crayboff, You can do it from the install CD, don't know exactly how ( and you might not be able to boot via wubi afterward )
[01:47] <mic_lovin> !media
[01:47] <iamelite> I put in blackbox X manager and the desktop is like huge and off my screen like its being spread across two monitors, but like a monitor is missing. And... i only have one monitor. Can anyone help me?
[01:47] <Baatti> hrm
[01:47] <daedra> Crayboff: oh dear two boot screens
[01:47] <mic_lovin> !codecs
[01:47] <ldiamond> Does anyone know how to get analog 5.1 audio in ubuntu (I have a realtek ALC883 built-in 5.1 audio card).
[01:47] <Crayboff> daedra: it's annoying
[01:47] <Baatti> how can I tell if my computer is capable of 64bit ??
[01:47] <daedra> Crayboff: well which would you rather use? GRUB or the Vista menu - I haven't used vista
[01:47] <ace_1> baatti: what processor do you have?
[01:47] <Crayboff> daedra: the vista menue
[01:47] <Baatti> AMD something or another
[01:48] <Chocotoff> amd 64?
[01:48] <daedra> Crayboff: does it even find ubuntu?
[01:48] <Baatti> erm...
[01:48] <Baatti> not sure, how can I check?
[01:48] <Crayboff> daedra: yes, I choose Ubuntu from the list and it then takes me to the grub menu
[01:48] <E3b> hello everyone
[01:48] <Chocotoff> reboot, and look at boot up :P
[01:48] <Crayboff> then I get onto ubuntu, daedra
[01:48] <Baatti> yeah ah...
[01:48] <Baatti> how about without booting?
[01:49] <Jordan_U> Crayboff, Wubi doesn't install grub to the MBR, it loads grub from Vista's bootloader, so what's happening now is that GRUB ( standard grub ) is loading Vista's bootloader which is then running GRUB ( wubi version ) which is then booting Ubuntu
[01:49] <Baatti> is there a 'system info' inside Ubuntu?
[01:49] <ace_1> system monitor
[01:49] <ldiamond> Does anyone know how to get analog 5.1 audio in ubuntu (I have a realtek ALC883 built-in 5.1 audio card). In windows, the driver has jack sensing and asks me what I plug in.
[01:49] <Baatti> ok
[01:49] <daedra> Crayboff: well you can set the GRUB timeout to be like 1 second, so you barely notice it
[01:49] <fosco_> Baatti, sudo apt-get sysinfo && sysinfo
[01:49] <phrostbite> I was wondering if there was a way to send a message to other people that use your wireless internet?
[01:49] <Crayboff> daedra, i guess
[01:49] <Baatti> :D AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
[01:49] <daedra> Crayboff: http://www.easy-ubuntu-linux.com/dual-boot-ubuntu-grub-timeout.html
[01:50] <Baatti> since its AMD 64, does that mean its capable of 64bit?
[01:50] <esworp> I've got a glitch i could use some help with...
[01:50] <daedra> Crayboff: I don't know what else to suggest
[01:50] <fosco_> Baatti, yes
[01:50] <chrometiger> im using 8.04 and im trying to install zsnes   but its not coming up in synaptic or using apt-get   any suggestions ?
[01:50] <Baatti> alrighty, thanks tech savvy friends
[01:50] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:50] <ace_1> thats a dual core
[01:50] <esworp> in xfce, I cant set the time, or open the users/groups settings window..
[01:50] <ace_1> it should support 64-bit instructions
[01:50] <koshar2> chrometiger: wat repo is it in
[01:51] <esworp> i get the ideaa that it's a permission fault, but there's only one user, me.
[01:51] <Crayboff> daedra, ya i know how to do it, umm do I need the different kernal options in the grub loader?
[01:51] <chrometiger> koshar2: it's not in any repo  synaptic doesn't see it
[01:51] <chrometiger> apt-get doesn't see it
[01:51] <daedra> Crayboff: I don't see why
[01:51] <daedra> Crayboff: all you are changing is how fast it boots the default kernel option
[01:51] <Crayboff> daedra: i know
[01:51] <koshar2> chrometiger you need to find what repo its in and add that , and then reload the repo list
[01:51] <micah_> is there a program that opens rar files??
[01:52] <daedra> Crayboff: as long as Ubuntu is the first option in the menu, it will boot that according to your new timeout
[01:52] <koshar2> micah_ fileroller through the gui
[01:52] <micah_> ok thank you
[01:52] <daedra> Crayboff: otherwise, you will just have to reorder the entries so that the one you want is at the top
[01:52] <koshar2> micah_ you may need to add rar package
[01:52] <Crayboff> daedra: ya, i got that
[01:52] <Baatti> I'm going to get rid of Windows, windows sucks. I'm gonna download Intrepid again, and then format the hard drive and put only Intrepid on it
[01:52] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:52] <micah_> i can get that from the ubuntu sight right??
[01:52] <daedra> Baatti: woopwoop
[01:53] <koshar2> micah_ sudo apt-get install rar
[01:53] <micah_> or go into terminal
[01:53] <micah_> ok thxs
[01:53] <daedra> microjern: sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:53]  * daedra smacks koshar2 
[01:53] <micah_> thank you all
[01:53] <TopKatz> I did  a distro update, and now my system looks to be using kernel 2.6.24-23 generic, but in my synaptic it looks like linux-headers-generic 2.6.27.11.14
[01:53] <Baatti> question, is there .iso mounting software in the default software package in Intrepid?
[01:53] <TopKatz> how do I fix this?
[01:53] <daedra> you should really use aptitude anyway :P
[01:54] <koshar2> daedra why
[01:54] <microjern> does anyone know any issues with presentation mode being very slow/unresponsive with 8.10? (laptop to TV via VGA connection)?
[01:54] <kurisuto> If I download a .deb file (package) by hand, how would I install it?  (from the command line)
[01:54] <draeday> i'm trying remove a windows virus from my usb drive but i cant delete it it says i dont have permission
[01:54] <esworp> sudo rm?
[01:55] <Crayboff> will limiting the number of kernels in the boot menu (via startup-manager) be detrimental in any way?
[01:55] <koshar2> kurisuto you may be able to install it depending on its dependencys, however adding the repo is always a better way to go
[01:55] <daedra> hospodg: it deals with dependencies better than apt
[01:55] <daedra> koshar2: it deals with dependencies better than apt
[01:55] <daedra> hospodg: sorry!
[01:55] <micah_> what was the command line? again sorry
[01:56] <daedra> micah_: sudo apt-get install unrar
[01:56] <koshar2> micah_ or just use synaptic
[01:56] <micah_> ok i no where i messed up
[01:56] <draeday> i got and error cant remove because its a read only file system
[01:56] <kurisuto> koshar2: Any pointer on how to add the repo?  Do I edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?
[01:56] <koshar2> rar will unrar as well wont it?
[01:56] <daedra> kurisuto: use synaptic
[01:56] <Jordan_U> daedra, With autoremove in apt there is really no difference in how they deal with dependencies
[01:57] <kurisuto> daedra: I am not using a GUI on this machine; it's a strictly command-line server.
[01:57] <demonspork> how do I reference my audio when I am opening a capture device in VLC? I am piping the sound over the line in and the default /dev/dsp doesn't do the trick. I am trying to use the sound that is coming in over my line-in jack
[01:57] <micah_> ok its doing it
[01:57] <jasmuz> !repositories
[01:57] <micah_> thxs
[01:57] <koshar2> because i have rar installed but not unrar and it unrars just fine
[01:57] <daedra> Jordan_U: yes because aptitude is just a cli frontend for apt
[01:57]  * genii twitches
[01:57] <daedra> Xorg is outputting a lot of errors on exit: http://pastebin.ca/1324963 Any help much appreciated
[01:57] <daedra> kurisuto: why are you talking to me?
[01:57] <koshar2> kurisuto you will need to manually change the sources list them
[01:57] <vock> what's the difference between apititude and apt? I keep hearing aptitude is better, but don't know why
[01:58] <koshar2> then
[01:58] <micah_> ok its done so how do i use it??
[01:58] <UrsusTas> Micah_, or $ Sudo aptitude install p7zip
[01:58] <Crayboff> will limiting the number of kernels in the boot menu (via startup-manager) be detrimental in any way?
[01:58] <kurisuto> daedra: You said "kurisuto: use synaptic"
[01:58] <daedra> I wish people would message the bot and use !commands
[01:58] <koshar2> micah_ open fileroller
[01:58] <jasmuz> daedra: is your video properly configured?
[01:58] <vock> crayboff: Not really, you should be fine
[01:58] <daedra> jasmuz: what do you mean?
[01:58] <jasmuz> daedra: what is really your issue?
[01:58] <daedra> kurisuto: oh woops :P well yeah edit reposby hand
[01:59] <Jonathan2> Hey I need help with getting a webcam to work
[01:59] <daedra> jasmuz: well kde won't start because of these errors
[01:59] <Jonathan2> am I in the right place?
[01:59] <jasmuz> daedra: just KDE?
[01:59] <kurisuto> daedra: Do you mean, edit /etc/apt/sources.list by hand?
[01:59] <daedra> jasmuz: yeah
[01:59] <daedra> kurisuto: yup
[01:59] <Jordan_U> vock, aptitude has an ( optional ) ncurses interface and some features to add to apt's, but for just installing and removing packages apt-get install is the same as aptitude install and apt-get autoremove is the same as aptitude remove
[01:59] <daedra> jasmuz: other WM's seem to work but the errors stay
[01:59] <jasmuz> daedra: Do you have any kind of rendering enabled?
[01:59] <daryl2> anyone build alsa 1.0.19 recently ?
[01:59] <micah_> do i need to get it from the add/remove programs page??? im using xubuntu so if that make any dif
[02:00] <daedra> jasmuz: I don't think so... everything happens in my xorg.conf
[02:00] <daedra> jasmuz: do you need to see my xorg.conf as well?
[02:00] <Pyles17> how do i get the cursor to rotate with the screen on a tablet? when i rotate the screen the cursor moves the opposite direction of the pen
[02:00] <koshar2> micah_ just alt f2 and type file-roller
[02:00] <micah_> im new so i dont even no what tht is
[02:00] <micah_> lol
[02:00] <jasmuz> daedra: that would be nice.
[02:01] <koshar2> micah_ with the hythen
[02:01] <skate2> will kde programs work in gnome?
[02:01] <emsenn> Is there any boot parameter to specify where ubuntu 8.10 livecd should look for the filesystem.squashfs or possibly an uncompressed version of those files?
[02:01] <Odd-rationale> skate2: yes. of course
[02:01] <skate2> cool
[02:01] <micah_> ok it did it
[02:01] <techsupport> can someone tell me what lenny is ?
[02:01] <koshar2> skate2 yes
[02:01] <micah_> thank you!!!!
[02:01] <daedra> jasmuz: http://pastebin.ca/1324978
[02:01] <Delvien> techsupport: lenny is a debian release
[02:01] <philsf> kurisuto: what's the package?
[02:02] <ldiamond> Does anyone know how to get analog 5.1 audio in ubuntu (I have a realtek ALC883 built-in 5.1 audio card). In windows, the driver has jack sensing and asks me what I plug in.
[02:02] <jasmuz> daedra: give me a sec, while it check it out
[02:02] <daedra> sorry for using pastebin.ca but ubuntu's pastebin doesn't allow you to upload files!
[02:02] <daedra> jasmuz: thanks buddy
[02:02] <micah_> im trying to learn how to use this os so sorry if im annoying
[02:02] <skate2> how can i make it so i can just type 'epic' to run /usr/bin/epic4 ?
[02:02] <daedra> skate2: bash aliases. google this
[02:02] <philsf> kurisuto: what's the package?
[02:02] <sholsinger> Any ideas why Realtek ALC889A Audio Codec would show up as: Intel HDA in lscpi?
[02:02] <mjc> ldiamond: try playing with some of the toggles in alsamixer
[02:02] <skate2> deadra ah so i dont have to make a symlink?
[02:03] <micah_> ok works thank you
[02:03] <daedra> skate2: no, that's not what im talking about. but you can do that if you like
[02:03] <mjc> ldiamond: also make sure your player app is set to use alsa and not OSS
[02:03] <skate2> deadra what are the benefits of using a symlink instead
[02:03] <ldiamond> mjc, theres nothing that works in alsa mixer
[02:03] <Jordan_U> sholsinger, Are you sure that it's not just seeing your built in sound card and possibly not your realtek one ?
[02:03] <mjc> sholsinger: because ALC8xx = intel HDA
[02:03] <ldiamond> mjc, I need to be able to assign channels to specific outputs of my soundcard
[02:04] <daedra> skate2: well there is no benefit. infact, if you make a bash alias you can run it from any terminal
[02:04] <mjc> ldiamond: "line jack sense" in alsamixer
[02:04] <jasmuz> daedra: you have fglrx enabled on BusID   "PCI:1:5:0" that is the error... your Xorg.conf is spewing out errors because its searching the wrong BUS ID
[02:04] <mjc> not the gui, the commandline version
[02:04] <leviatan> hi everybody, someone have an ipod here?
[02:04] <sholsinger> mjc: why didn't the driver get installed when I setup 8.10 ?
[02:04] <ldiamond> I dont have that in alsamixer.
[02:04] <daedra> skate2: but if you only make a symlink, you have to be in the same directory as the symlink
[02:04] <philsf> techsupport: it's a character from toy story
[02:04] <philsf> techsupport: also the codename for the next Debian release
[02:04] <philsf> sholsinger: try sudo update-pciids
[02:04] <ldiamond> mjc I dont have that in alsamixer.
[02:04] <demonspork> how do I reference my audio when I am opening a capture device in VLC? I am piping the sound over the line in and the default /dev/dsp doesn't do the trick. I am trying to use the sound that is coming in over my line-in jack
[02:04] <mjc> ldiamond: I have an 88x as well and it's there in alsamixer on 2.6.28
[02:04] <koshar2> philsf all debial dists are toy story packages
[02:04] <daedra> jasmuz: how do I find where the real device is?
[02:04] <mjc> sholsinger: it should work
[02:04] <jasmuz> daedra: my recommendation would be, just scrapping your current config and redoing it from zero
[02:05] <mjc> sholsinger: how are your speakers connected, are they via SPIDIF?
[02:05] <daedra> jasmuz: yea
[02:05] <philsf> koshar2: I know that
[02:05] <sholsinger> mjc: negative. And it worked in 8.04 until updage manager installed a certain Kernel update.
[02:05] <skate2> daedra,  well i meant making a symlink to /usr/bin/epic4 that's in the same directory, like /usr/bin/epic. that way it's sitll in my path and i can launch it from any directory
[02:05] <daedra> jasmuz: it was autogenerated, and since it works with my current windowmanager, I left it :P
[02:05] <Pyles17> how do i get the cursor to rotate with the screen on a tablet? when i rotate the screen the cursor moves the opposite direction of the pen
[02:05] <ayande> wich is best antivirus for ubuntu?
[02:05] <ldiamond> mjc, I have a ALC883 on kernel 2.6.27-11-generic, I dont see anything about jack sensing
[02:05] <ayande> !antivirus
[02:05] <sholsinger> mjc: nvidia broke around the same time.
[02:05] <jasmuz> daedra: what are you running right now?
[02:05] <ldiamond> ayande, you dont really need an antivirus
[02:06] <daedra> skate2: yep that would work... it only saves you one character :P
[02:06] <mjc> sholsinger: nvidia requires a new version pretty much every minor kernel update eg 2.6.27 -> 2.6.28
[02:06] <ayande> i have mailserver
[02:06] <daedra> jasmuz: xmonad
[02:06] <ayande> and ftp
[02:06] <ayande> dont know if its secure
[02:06] <ldiamond> ayande, you want to scan for Win virus?
[02:06] <Jordan_U> ayande, ClamAV
[02:06] <koshar2> ayande are you joking?
[02:06] <kurisuto> OK: my file /etc/apt/sources.list currently contains this single line: "deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu gutsy main".  It looks like I need to add a line to that file to be able to install the "perlmagick" and "python-pythonmagick" packages.  Question is, how do I figure out what line(s) I need to add?
[02:06] <ayande> no im new to linux
[02:06] <ayande> dont really know how it works
[02:06] <jasmuz> daedra: ohh.. never used it, if you feel KDE is really worth it, you are going to have to reconfigure your xserver
[02:06] <daedra> jasmuz: I've never written my own xorg.conf.. got any recommended howtos? (trying google now)
[02:07] <jasmuz> daedra: are you running an ati?
[02:07] <mjc> sholsinger: does ls /dev/snd/pcm* return anything? or "no such file or directory"
[02:07] <daedra> jasmuz: yep
[02:07] <leviatan> hi everybody, someone have an ipod here?
[02:07] <daedra> leviatan: yup
[02:07] <koshar2> ayande you really dont need to be worried about viris in linux (at least presently) clamAV and others will scan windows files for nasties
[02:07] <philsf> ayande: try #ubuntu-server
[02:07] <ayande> ldiamond i do want to scan viruses maybe send by mail
[02:07] <uncmar> ayande: neither do many other people. that is why there aren't many viri for it. and you therefore you don't need antivirus software.
[02:07] <leviatan> I want to know how to syncronize it
[02:07] <koshar2> leviatan yes
[02:07] <ldiamond> mjc, can I msg you in private?
[02:07] <jasmuz> daedra: try installing Envy-NG from the repos and using it.. it will do everything else for you
[02:07] <ayande> ok
[02:07] <koshar2> leviatan model
[02:07] <sholsinger> mjc: No such file or directory.
[02:07] <Jordan_U> kurisuto, Just add "universe" to the end of the line you have ( if those packages are available in universe, which IIRC they are )
[02:07] <ldiamond> ayande, if people send you win virus, they wont work on linux
[02:07] <leviatan> 120gb koshar2
[02:08] <mjc> ldiamond: no, I would suspect that there would be others that could benefit
[02:08] <ayande> oh i see
[02:08] <ayande> ok
[02:08] <koshar2> leviatan g5?
[02:08] <kurisuto> Jordan_U: Thank you!
[02:08] <ayande> thanks alot everyone for help
[02:08] <ayande> chears
[02:08] <macman> anyone got lame and k3b running well
[02:08] <Jonathan2> How do I install webcam drivers for linux?
[02:08] <leviatan> koshar2, mm i think 5.5 or 6
[02:08] <Jordan_U> kurisuto, np
[02:08] <sholsinger> mjc: I've seen this problem fixed in edgy by manually compiling a binary Intel driver, but I'm pretty sure this should just work.
[02:08] <mtretin> How do I automatically tell ubuntu to unload and reload particular modules during/after the suspend/resume process?
[02:08] <ldiamond> mjc, do you know how I could fix my problem? I tried installing the driver pack from Realtek site. (I believe I just put a lot of useless stuffs everywhere in my file system)
[02:09] <koshar2> leviatan i use amarok to manage my g4
[02:09] <redvamp128> !webcam | Jonathan2
[02:09] <mjc> sholsinger: try: modprobe snd-hda-intel
[02:09] <esworp> i'm running a build made for my (OLPC) XO, and there's only one user.  i note that my password allows sudo'ing, but some parts of xfce seem confused about there being a missing root user..  any ideas for a fix?
[02:09] <ldiamond> mjc, even with that, I dont see any way to assign channels to specific jacks
[02:09] <mjc> sholsinger: see if that makes /dev/snd/pcm* show up
[02:09] <uncmar> mtretin: using fairy dust.  No, really, I'd like to know that too.  I have wireless that needs reactivated after hibernates.
[02:09] <koshar2> mtretin i dont know about resume suspend but at boot time you use the blacklist
[02:09] <jasmuz> daedra: how about you go do that, and pm me if anything
[02:09] <koshar2> uncmar cant you jsut use modprobe?
[02:10] <Pyles17> any ideas on rotating the cursor?
[02:10] <mjc> ldiamond: manufacturer specific drivers are always out of date on linux, linux kernel gets 1,000+ changes per day, so they are pretty much pointless to bother with
[02:10] <daedra> jasmuz: hokay
[02:10] <mtretin> uncmar, koshar2:  Well, it might be easier to track down if either of you know how to tell which daemon handles suspend resume on my system?
[02:10] <leviatan> koshar2 I read that to have to modify the sysinfo file.... but in some webpages say that I just have to install lipgpod and syncronize it with amarok.... what have i do exactly?
[02:10] <ldiamond> mjc, what do you suggest?
[02:10] <sholsinger> mjc: Negative.
[02:11] <phix> LjL: how's it going?
[02:11] <jasmuz> esworp: first i ENVY your XO, second... how about you make a root user?
[02:11] <mjc> sholsinger: hm. does it let you modprobe it at least?
[02:11] <sholsinger> mjc: btw, way to multitask. Tackling two Realtek issues at once. You're doing the community proud. :)
[02:11] <sholsinger> mjc: modprobe does not return anything.
[02:11] <Level_5> anybody wanna help me troubleshoot my wireless problem on an HP dv9819wm with a broadcom wireless card?
[02:11] <Level_5> I really could use the help
[02:12] <jasmuz> Level_5: what is your issue?
[02:12] <mjc> ldiamond: one sec, looking for how to mess with the models on the module command line, what motherboard is it?
[02:12] <koshar2> leviatan some of the newer ipods have the database on the ipod encrypted, and there was a time when the ipod tools couldnt open it, i beleive the newer packages will now for ipods however the touch is still more problematic and i beleive you need to jailbreak them
[02:12] <mjc> sholsinger: ok, and lsmod | grep hda
[02:12] <mjc> ?
[02:12] <ldiamond> mjc its a laptop (Clevo M570ru)
[02:12] <Level_5> jasmuz, you there?
[02:12] <jasmuz> Level_5: sure... tell me
[02:13] <mjc> ldiamond: try speaker-test -Dplug:iec958 -c6
[02:13] <sholsinger> mjc: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m23ef398d
[02:13] <mtretin> How do I tell which daemon handles suspend/resume in ubuntu?
[02:13] <Level_5> jasmuz, ok i've read a few things on this already. everything seems to point to removing ndis-utils, ndis wrapper, which by the way I don't have on this laptop
[02:13] <mjc> sholsinger: ok, so it thinks the driver is loaded correctly. do you see anything in alsamixer? or does it give you an error
[02:13] <mjc> sholsinger: the commandline version
[02:13] <Level_5> jasmuz,  the light is lit on the card but it wan't recognize my dhcp server, which I know is working.
[02:14] <jasmuz> Level_5: have you checked the current state of the that chipset your card has?
[02:14] <mjc> mtretin: gnome-power-manager in regular ubuntu. not sure with kubuntu
[02:14] <esworp> what is the 'blessed' way to make a root user?
[02:14] <sholsinger> mjc: volume control cannot find any devices to control
[02:14] <mjc> esworp: use sudo
[02:14] <Jordan_U> Level_5, What chipset and what have you done so far?
[02:14] <fluitfries_> if i have clocked my cpu a little higher now than when i first installed ubuntu, do i need to alter any configs or kernel stuff to accommodate the new cpu speed?
[02:14] <leviatan> koshar2, oce i tried to manage my ipod with rythmbox but i lost all my music.... well just the play list in my ipod, all mp3 were still there... I don't want to happend the same :(
[02:15] <Jordan_U> esworp, Having a root user is not blessed in Ubuntuland :)
[02:15] <mjc> sholsinger: hm. try 'udevadm trigger' without quotes
[02:15] <mtretin> mjc, Thanks, is there a entry in /proc or /sys or something like that so I can confirm? I'm trying to figure out how to tel ubuntu to automatically load/reload modules suring the suspend resume process
[02:15] <jasmuz> esworp: sudo user add root (?)
[02:15] <Level_5> Jordan_U,  I have the broadcom chipset. So far I've tried to remove and re-install ndis wrapper. ndis wrapper or ndis-utils isn't on this laptop at all
[02:15] <sholsinger> mjc: returned nothing...
[02:16] <_VIM_> !root
[02:16] <Jordan_U> Level_5, Which chipset exactly? ( "lspci | grep -i broadcom" to find out )
[02:16] <jasmuz> Level_5: did you install the NDIS utilities, add the driver, load it as a module, and then use it?
[02:16] <Level_5> Jordan_U,  hang on
[02:16] <Level_5> jasmuz, no I didn't do that
[02:16] <mjc> mtretin: you would use dbus to add an event. how specifically I am not sure.
[02:16] <esworp> hrm.  /something / is amiss..  if i try and open the system panel and add a user (wanted my wife to have her own login) it fails to open System - Users and groups - saying "your not allowed to access system configuration"
[02:17] <Level_5> jasmuz, I tried to use the one that was already installed
[02:17] <mjc> sholsinger: check to see if it added /dev/snd/pcm* after that
[02:17] <jasmuz> Level_5: you need to load the module on your first run, so you can use it.. then its easy as pie just writing it to the normal modules at boot
[02:17] <mtretin> mjc, thanks, at least its getting me closer -- i'll tell you if I figure it out
[02:17] <sholsinger> mjc: Negative.
[02:17] <ldiamond> mjc, Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[02:18] <mjc> ldiamond: doh sorry, you said it wasn't spidif. one sec for updated option
[02:18] <Level_5> Jordan_U, I have the BCM4312
[02:18] <sholsinger> mjc: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=856390 <-- think this guy's solution might work?
[02:18] <mjc> ldiamond: speaker-test -c 6 should do it
[02:18] <ldiamond> mjc, that works but I dont get all 6 channels.
[02:18] <Level_5> Jordan_U, rev 2
[02:18] <ldiamond> mjc, Only 2 channels work.
[02:18] <phr0st_e> I'm trying to set up openvpn bridged, with a single interface...I think I need to set up a second IP, how would I set up an ip alias?
[02:18] <mjc> ldiamond: what do you hear for rear right, silence?
[02:19] <jasmuz> Level_5: and no results?
[02:19] <alex_> are there any apache tomcat packages or are ubuntu and apache having some beef at the moment?
[02:19] <mjc> sholsinger: you can try cat /proc/asound/cards to see if it lists it
[02:19] <ldiamond> mjc, yes (and the center speaker has some noise in it, as if the plug its is just not assigned to anything
[02:19] <phr0st_e> I tried several things I found on the internet, and the interface (eth0:0) doesn't come up on reboot
[02:19] <Jordan_U> Level_5, Have you tried installing b43-fwcutter yet ?
[02:19] <Level_5> No I haven't
[02:20] <mrpockets> sudo apt-get update  is how you patch and update your system, yes?
[02:20] <Level_5> Jordan_U,  No I haven't
[02:20] <esworp> hrm..  sudo adduser root.  adduser: The user `root' already exists.
[02:20] <esworp> poop
[02:20] <ldiamond> mrpockets, no
[02:20] <Jordan_U> Level_5, That is what you need to install for the built in drivers to work
[02:20] <mjc> esworp: use sudo for doing root tasks, don't actually make an account
[02:20] <sholsinger> mjc: --- no soundcards ---
[02:20] <mrpockets> ldiamond, so its not like yum update
[02:20] <ldiamond> mrpockets, sudo apt-get update is used to update the repository
[02:20] <mrpockets> kinda what i thought
[02:20] <mjc> sholsinger: hmm.  lspci | grep ALC
[02:20] <Jordan_U> esworp, Why do you think you need to be able to log in as root?
[02:20] <mrpockets> so how do i patch and update via cmd?
[02:21] <ldiamond> mrpockets, to update your system (upgrade) its sudo apt-get update, then sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:21] <esworp> i think that xfce needs to have a permissions problem fixed.. i just figured ... ;]
[02:21] <mjc> esworp: sudo chmod
[02:21] <evilGUI> Hello I have a HP laptop that I install ndiswrapper and a driver on will ndiswrapper reduce the life of this card?
[02:21] <ldiamond> !upgrade
[02:21] <mjc> or chown
[02:21] <Jordan_U> esworp, What is the problem
[02:21] <mrpockets> i thought upgrade was from like, version A to version B
[02:21] <esworp> hrm.  /something / is amiss..  if i try and open the system panel and add a user (wanted my wife to have her own login) it fails to open System - Users and groups - saying "your not allowed to access system configuration"
[02:21] <kurisuto> After I added "universe" to the end of the line in /etc/apt/sources.list, I could now see and install the "perlmagick" package, but I still don't see the "python-pythonmagick" package, for some reason.
[02:21] <sholsinger> mjc: Nothing. It shows up as: 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
[02:21] <mjc> esworp: you are not part of the wheel group on that user then
[02:22] <jasmuz> evilGUI: what?
[02:22] <mjc> sholsinger: ahh. hmm
[02:22] <ldiamond> its for that as well
[02:22] <ldiamond> mrpockets, its for that as well
[02:22] <mjc> sholsinger: try snd-atiixp
[02:22] <esworp> wheel user.. (eyes glaze over)
[02:22] <evilGUI> jasmuz: Sorry for all the typos, will ndiswrapper in any way kill this card I have heard of people having this card die in Ubuntu.
[02:22] <ldiamond> !upgrade > mrpockets
[02:22] <esworp> need to use the google on the internet machine
[02:22] <mrpockets> thanks man
[02:22] <chestylarue> whats a channel for tech help? failing at install flash on my 64amd..
[02:23] <mjc> esworp: on your account, do sudo usermod -G wheel wifesusername
[02:23] <jasmuz> evilGUI: Answer me this, how can a wrapper for a driver kill the card?
[02:23] <evilGUI> jasmuz: ah your right
[02:23] <mjc> chestylarue: 64bit flash is not yet finished, you would need a 32bit version of firefox
[02:23] <esworp> mjc: oh..  i havent made a user for my wife yet.. there's only one user for now.
[02:23] <mjc> chestylarue: adobe has not finished it yet, but there is a version available on their labs site
[02:23] <jasmuz> evilGUI: it sounds like speculation to me.. i've used broadcom and NDIS before,.. and no issues.
[02:24] <evilGUI> jasmuz: Alright thanks
[02:24] <mjc> ldiamond: I will need to reboot to test 6ch on my system. one moment
[02:24] <ldiamond> mjc alright
[02:24] <mjc> ldiamond: I have the same chip exactly as yours
[02:24] <jasmuz> evilGUI: you are welcomed.
[02:24] <esworp> mjc: unknown group wheel.  (0_o)
[02:24] <chestylarue>  i went to this site http://ubuntuzilla.wiki.sourceforge.net/#usersof64bitubuntu and pretty sure i installed the 32bits right
[02:24] <mjc> esworp: hmm.
[02:24] <evilGUI> I'm also having issues with my 7150go and my Window boarders going blank.
[02:24] <j-b-r> Can anyone give me some suggestions on getting a gameport gamepad work in ubuntu hardy?
[02:24] <chestylarue> but i still get a wrong architecture message
[02:24] <mjc> esworp: sorry, maybe someone else can help you, I need to reboot to help ldiamond :)
[02:24] <draeday> i have problem changing commands to a file on my usb drive
[02:25] <overrider> hey, is there a command i can use to read my laptops temperature sensors? thanks
[02:25] <esworp> i think i need to get up with the designed this build
[02:25] <leviatan> Koshar2 amarok don't identify my ipod
[02:25] <ldiamond> esworp, what are you trying to do?
[02:25] <esworp> hrm.  /something / is amiss..  if i try and open the system panel and add a user (wanted my wife to have her own login) it fails to open System - Users and groups - saying "your not allowed to access system configuration"
[02:25] <draeday> it's a windows virus and it wont remove using the sudo tm
[02:25] <draeday> rm
[02:25] <esworp> and.. i cant open the date/time panel with the same error
[02:26] <sholsinger> mjc: You meant: 'modprobe snd-atiixp' correct?
[02:26] <esworp> everything else seem to be working ok
[02:26] <Level_5> Jordan_U, I have that installed...What should I do now?
[02:26] <ldiamond> sholsinger, I believe he did mean that
[02:27] <sholsinger> ldiamond: How is your realtek issue-solving coming?
[02:27] <baz> is there a way to remote into another computer using the remote user accounts? Without a user having to be already logged in remotely...
[02:27] <mjc> sholsinger: yes
[02:27] <mjc> sholsinger: sorry :P
[02:27] <ldiamond> sholsinger, nothing works right now (2.1 channel only works)
[02:27] <mjc> ldiamond: wait, your sub works?
[02:27] <sholsinger> mjc: No prob. :) If i were a beginner I'd have been lost. Got errors and warnings: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d4080407a
[02:27] <mjc> ldiamond: or did you mean 2.0
[02:27] <jasmuz> baz: SSH
[02:27] <baz> jasmuz, gui style
[02:27] <j-b-r> Gameport help, anyone?
[02:27] <mjc> sholsinger: sudo modprobe snd-atiixp
[02:28] <ldiamond> mjc, well, the sub works cause I have a 2.1 switch on my speakers.
[02:28] <mjc> sholsinger: gotta be root
[02:28] <mjc> ldiamond: ahh.
[02:28] <sholsinger> mjc: ahh... :)
[02:28] <mjc> ldiamond: I was going to say, ALC8xx uses center/sub on the same cable
[02:28] <ldiamond> mjc thats standard I believe
[02:28] <keres> is it possible to install windows in order to dual boot when you already have a linux distro installed?
[02:28] <chrometiger> i'm trying to install zsnes and i found that it is in multiverse repository supposedly  I apt-get update and try to apt-get install zsnes and I get this error    E: Invalid operation zsnes
[02:29] <jasmuz> baz: how about enabiling the Xserver in the other machine to accept incoming connections?
[02:29] <ldiamond> mjc my speakers allow a 2 channel input and copies it to all speakers (but thats not what I'm looking for)
[02:29] <mc0> hey all
[02:29] <tropical_dude> Hi everybody
[02:29] <sholsinger> mjc: did the modprobe snd-atiixp, and checked: 'cat /proc/asound/cards' no dice. Checked: 'ls /dev/snd/pcm*' and still got no file or dir.
[02:29] <mjc> ldiamond: yeah I understand now I just wanted to make sure you weren't having a different issue
[02:29] <jasmuz> tropical_dude: hey
[02:29] <mjc> sholsinger: hmm.  one sec
[02:30] <j-b-r> chrometiger: I just tried, it, and sudo apt-get install zsnes worked for me
[02:30] <tropical_dude> I need some help, I did my homework, but been trying to deal with a "wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64" for a month or so
[02:30] <chestylarue_> what do i do with the libflashplayer.so file? trying to install the 64bit flash
[02:30] <genii> tropical_dude: Thats a 64 bit binary
[02:30] <micah_> hay wasap ppl
[02:30] <ldiamond> chestylarue, you have to put it in your firefox plugin folder, it will be loaded automatically
[02:30] <chrometiger> j-b-r: I cant get it to work ??  i've tried everything I know
[02:30] <chestylarue_> ah ok thanks : D
[02:31] <chestylarue_> lemme give it a shot
[02:31] <ldiamond> chestylarue_, its located in .mozilla/firefox/plugins (or .mozilla/plugins)
[02:31] <tropical_dude> genii: thanks for answer, Yes I understand the problem, but cant find a good solution
[02:31] <j-b-r> wait. what version of ubuntu are you using chrometiger
[02:31] <ldiamond> chestylarue_, then restart ff, it should work
[02:31] <chrometiger> 8.04
[02:31] <j-b-r> me too
[02:31] <j-b-r> did you sudo?
[02:31] <genii> tropical_dude: It's not possible to execute a 64 bit binary under a 32 bit OS
[02:31] <micah_> hay whats the best way to install a theme on xubuntu
[02:31] <chrometiger> yeah
[02:32] <j-b-r> can you install other packages?
[02:32] <tropical_dude> genii: Im running Ubuntu AMD64, some java apps raise the error
[02:32] <jasmuz> micah_: what type of theme? gtk?
[02:32] <chrometiger> one sec
[02:32] <j-b-r> maybe your internet is messed up or something
[02:32] <micah_> yes
[02:32] <micah_> gtk
[02:32] <Level_5> Jordan_U, hey you still there?
[02:32] <tropical_dude> genii: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[02:32] <jasmuz> micah_: do like you would with any gtk theme installed for gnome
[02:32] <genii> tropical_dude: Possibly your Java is 32 bit, running with ia32-libs or so
[02:32] <mjc> sholsinger: does lspci -v show a device id and vendor ID for that card?
[02:33] <ldiamond> mjc, btw, do you have an idea how to remove everything from the Realtek driver pack?
[02:33] <j-b-r> Anyone at all that can help me with my gameport?
[02:33] <mjc> ldiamond: no clue, never used it
[02:33] <chrometiger> j-b-r: no
[02:33] <micah_> i have tried gnome i just started using linux
[02:33] <j-b-r> chrometiger: you can't install anything?
[02:33] <micah_> i havent tried my bad
[02:33] <chestylarue> gave me a permission error even though im on my only user : /
[02:33] <chrometiger> anyone know where i can get a good  sources.list file ?
[02:33] <mjc> chrometiger: try sudo
[02:33] <linuxbestos> does anyone know how to get ALSA working with HDA Intel ALC885?
[02:33] <chrometiger> i may have broke mine  im on 8.04
[02:34] <j-b-r> you broke sudo??
[02:34] <chrometiger> i think i broke  sources.list
[02:34] <j-b-r> oh
[02:34] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, I have the exact same problem, mjc is trying to help me fix it.
[02:34] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, do you have sound at all?
[02:34] <chestylarue_> i wouldnt know command to use sudo to drop it into the plugins folder : /
[02:35] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, are you looking to get surround to work? or just get 2 channel sound?
[02:35] <linuxbestos> ldiamond: none in ALSA but PulseAudio Works
[02:35] <Zoffix> Hello, has anyone managed to get colorblindness applet installed from gnome-mag package? I followed this tut: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-the-Colorblind-Applet-on-GNOME-91323.shtml but it still doesn't show up in "add to panel" window.
[02:35] <ldiamond> chestylarue, sudo cp sourcefile targetfolder
[02:35] <jasmuz> people im jetting fromthe chan, if you need anything pm me
[02:35] <chestylarue_> cool! lemme try
[02:35] <Dillizar> !opera
[02:35] <linuxbestos> ldiamond: Surround Sound 5.1
[02:36] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, try sudo apt-get install gnome-alsa-mixer, then go to Applications, sound, gnome alsa mixer, and make sure you uncheck all the mute and put the volume up (for surround for example)
[02:36] <sholsinger> mjc: starts at line: 156 -> http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d24582235
[02:36] <mjc> sholsinger: that specific device actually looks like the HDMI audio device in a video card
[02:36] <j-b-r> No one here knows anything about getting a stubborn gameport to work?
[02:36] <mjc> sholsinger: oh, hmm, nevermind
[02:37] <sholsinger> mjc: I've disabled the onboard video adapter. It shouldn't be there.
[02:37] <mjc> sholsinger: spoke too soon ;)
[02:37] <ldiamond> mjc did you have jack sensing back with 2.6.27?
[02:37] <tropical_dude> genii: Im almost sure Im running java 64bit, however, what would you do first step to try to fix these?
[02:37] <mjc> ldiamond: yes I have it with 2.6.20+
[02:37] <mjc> ldiamond: Line Jack Sense in my alsamixer which is muted by default
[02:37] <ldiamond> mjc thats odd, did you have it right out of the box?
[02:38] <Level_5> can someone help me out with my wireless problem? I have the broadcom BCM4312 card
[02:40] <ldiamond> mjc you see Line Jack Sense in alsamixer (typing alsamixer in a terminal) ?
[02:40] <mjc> ldiamond: correct
[02:40] <linuxbestos> ldiamond: I installed it, changed the volume then tested it in System>Preferences>Sound and it gave me this error: audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink: Could not open audio device for playback.
[02:40] <mjc> ldiamond: mine is on an intel server board
[02:40] <mjc> sholsinger: that is the HDMI port in the video card even thoguh it's disabled in the bios
[02:40] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, try speaker-test -c 2 in a terminal
[02:41] <axyjo> hi all, nautilus for me is taking up 1.2GB of ram! how can i cut this down? (i'm running intrepid)
[02:41] <genii> tropical_dude: No immediate ideas come to mind
[02:41] <mjc> sholsinger: linux doesn't really care about what the bios thinks
[02:41] <sholsinger> mjc: What... happened to my sound card?
[02:41] <linuxbestos> ldiamond: I get this error: ALSA lib pcm.c:2196:(snd_pcm_open_noupdate) Unknown PCM “surround51″
[02:41] <linuxbestos> Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory
[02:41] <Zoffix> !colorblind
[02:41] <todd> help
[02:42] <tropical_dude> genii: thanks for your time, I think Im going back to 32bits
[02:42] <todd> why wont ubuntu mount my extrnal usb drive?
[02:42] <j-b-r> Ok, let's play a word game. I'll say a word, and you tell me how to make it work: Gameport!
[02:42] <mjc> sholsinger: not sure, can you get sound back by booting 2.6.27 or earlier?
[02:42] <Kitt-Kat> haha
[02:42] <sholsinger> mjc: this is weird. I swear, it stopped working after I upgraded my RAM. (which involved a reboot)
[02:42] <todd> does anyone have anytime to help me figure out how to mount a usb drive with ubuntu 8.10?
[02:43] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, did you add that "surround51" anywhere?
[02:43] <ecalot> hello world!
[02:43] <sholsinger> mjc: I kinda wish I had played with it before I wiped the installation (8.04) and upgraded to 8.10 in hopes it would work.
[02:43] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, my audio worked fine (in 2 channel mode) right out of the box
[02:43] <alex_> might anyone help me install some "open shit" software from source?
[02:43] <mjc> sholsinger: ah, I have something
[02:44] <redvamp128> !language | alex_
[02:44] <linuxbestos> ldiamond: I added it in my .asoundrc: http://pastebin.com/mf5ff373
[02:44] <mjc> sholsinger: try restarting udev, since we modprobed the intel hda driver already: /etc/init.d/udev restart
[02:44] <sholsinger> mjc: how do I find out which kernels I have installed?
[02:45] <mjc> sholsinger: ls /boot/vmlinuz*
[02:45] <redvamp128> alex_:  try installing build essentials first -- but also depends on what source you are trying to install -- sometimes on the page where you get the source they tell you what you need.
[02:45] <sholsinger> mjc: /etc/init.d/udev restart ?
[02:45] <mjc> yes
[02:45] <alex_> i have build essentials
[02:45] <mjc> sholsinger: that will force it to try to remake the devices
[02:45] <alex_> i'm trying to install jboss
[02:45] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, as I said, my sound worked right out of the box (in 2 channel mode). I wouldnt change the .asoundrc
[02:45] <mjc> chestylarue_: what's up
[02:46] <ldiamond> linuxbestos, but I havent figured out how to make surround work properly
[02:46] <alex_> it seems ubuntu HATES any kind of network/web programming software or service
[02:46] <sholsinger> mjc: message: loading additional hardware drivers
[02:46] <n8tuserf> alex_-> jboss requires java jar files not c libraries eh?
[02:46] <mjc> sholsinger: anything in /dev/snd/pcm* now?
[02:46] <ecalot> hi, I'm having a big trouble with a big hard disk: I'm getting I/O error if the disk is mounted for a while. Badblocks didn't find anything wrong. Already tried googling, but didn't find anything interesting. Any clue?
[02:46] <aquawicket> I've created a folder in /usr/src       I want to copy files into that folder but I keep getting permission denied.   tried to do  terminal->   su -      still denied
[02:46] <alex_> yes. i have java installed
[02:46] <mjc> chestylarue_: for cp, just put sudo in front of it
[02:47] <koshar2> aquawicket what are the folders permissiojns?
[02:47] <mjc> chestylarue_: it should be the exact same command but with sudo at the beginning
[02:47] <sholsinger> mjc: no
[02:47] <aquawicket> owner is root
[02:47] <alex_> and jboss website provides me a tar.gz whatever it is
[02:47] <redvamp128> alex_:  I would probably ask in their forums -- to find out what you need http://www.jboss.com/index.html?module=bb
[02:47] <chestylarue_> i did that, the file is on my desktop
[02:47] <chestylarue_> i have the right path for the desination but i think im using the cp command wrong because i didnt point sudo towards anything i just typed in the filename
[02:47] <koshar2> aquawicket not owner, permissions, rw ect
[02:47] <mjc> chestylarue_: so if it was "cp foo bar" it would need to be "sudo cp foo bar"
[02:47] <todd> how do i enable root?
[02:47] <alex_> that route is the road to well. you know what the word is
[02:47] <mjc> chestylarue_: sudo cp ~/Desktop/filename destination
[02:47] <alex_> jboss documentation is the worst
[02:47] <phr0st_e> help making an ip alias?
[02:47] <chestylarue_> ahh ok thats what
[02:48] <todd> how do i enable root?
[02:48] <redvamp128> alex_:  also I found you need eclipse as well as JRE
[02:48] <sholsinger> mjc: I'm booting 2.6.27-7 already.
[02:48] <koshar2> todd you want to initiate a single root commad or create a root user
[02:48] <alex_> which I both have
[02:48] <todd> root user
[02:48] <redvamp128> alex_:  the standard java is not enough
[02:48] <mjc> sholsinger: can you give me a motherboard model?
[02:48] <koshar2> todd why?
[02:48] <aquawicket> drwxr-sr-x   ??   is that right..
[02:48] <j-b-r> todd: why do you need to be root
[02:48] <mjc> ldiamond: I'm reading the HDA driver's source atm to see if there's something you can set in your alsa config
[02:48] <todd> because im new
[02:48] <alex_> i have them. i just need to install jboss and do some GUI stuff in eclipse to configure it
[02:48] <j-b-r> todd: just sudo
[02:48] <alex_> it's very retarded
[02:48] <sholsinger> mjc: GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2579&ProductName=GA-MA69GM-S2H
[02:49] <todd> j-b-r, what is the command to create the root user
[02:49] <koshar2> aquawicket yes, so it means groupa nad others dDONT have write permissians, you will ned to change that if you want groupd or others to write to that dir
[02:49] <todd> I found it --> sudo passwd root
[02:49] <j-b-r> todd: create the root user? I'm afraid I don't know what you mean
[02:49] <alex_> it does not help that the latest stable Always has 0 documentation
[02:49] <j-b-r> oh
[02:49] <redvamp128> alex_:  just use this as a guide -- I did find an install method for Installing the JBoss Application Server on Debian GNU/Linux 4.0 (etch) gateway - JBoss Setup <http://gateway.sourceforge.net/server-setup/jboss-setup.html>
[02:49] <aquawicket> kk..   what's the command for changin permissions
[02:50] <todd> whats the point of not being root all the time?
[02:50] <ldiamond> mjc, is there any other sound manager that might work ? I dont mind getting rid of everything and installing something better (alsa seems kinda messed up)
[02:50] <j-b-r> You just... shouldn't do it
[02:50] <sholsinger> aquawicket: chmod
[02:50] <aquawicket> thanks
[02:50] <j-b-r> Sudoing works just as well
[02:50] <n8tuserf> jboss was bought by some bigger company wasnt it?
[02:50] <alex_> What the...
[02:50] <alex_> i have to code my installation once again
[02:50] <redvamp128> alex_:  also found this in ubuntu forums -- Howto install jboss - Ubuntu Forums <http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=491878>
[02:50] <koshar2>  todd rm / and find out
[02:50] <j-b-r> lol
[02:51] <alex_> i saw that link half an hour ago
[02:51] <alex_> and it wasn't helpful
[02:51] <alex_> it just links to jboss website
[02:51] <todd> ok
[02:51] <todd> koshar2
[02:51] <todd> i did
[02:51] <todd> what does rm / do?
[02:52] <genii> !danger
[02:52] <solid_liquid> did anyone else have the football broadcast interrupted right after that last touchdown?
[02:52] <koshar2> i hope you didnt do that as root!
[02:52] <Dillizar> how can i install the flash plug-in in a directory that i want
[02:52] <n8tuserf> alex_-> what are you trying to develop? do you require that j2ee whatever cr@#$%@ it is?
[02:52] <Dillizar> *path
[02:52] <j-b-r> Ok, I am going to hypnotize you... Look deep into my letters... Ok, when I snap my fingers, you will tell me how to use my gameport!
[02:52] <j-b-r> It was just rm, it wasn't rm -r!
[02:52] <todd> what does rm / do?
[02:52] <illbeatu> i am trying to learn ejb3 n8tuserf
[02:52] <todd> yes u told me to
[02:52] <mjc> ldiamond: there is a tool I am thinking of that lets you check the hardware max channels and all the alsa options, one sec while I hunt around in apt
[02:52] <illbeatu> sprung framework is a no go
[02:52] <bre4kbeat> Hey guys and gals...im not a linux guru but i was talking to my bro today who used to run linux and said something about ubuntu being unsecure because of an open shell account?
[02:52] <illbeatu> struts is a no go
[02:52] <todd> koshar2?
[02:52] <genii> koshar2: BTW don't bring that command up here
[02:52] <illbeatu> i'm sick of open source to be quite frank
[02:53] <illbeatu> but i'm forced to use it
[02:53] <genii> todd: It's a destructive command
[02:53] <todd> oh no
[02:53] <ldiamond> mjc, wget -O alsa-info.sh  http://alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash ./alsa-info.sh ?
[02:53] <solid_liquid> bre4kbeat: bs
[02:53] <illbeatu> "go figure out how to use this open source software as part of your job"
[02:53] <j-b-r> Oh come on
[02:53] <koshar2> todd ir means remove, and that with a recursive switch cam be very damaging run with root permissians
[02:53] <n8tuserf> illbeatu-> struts  does not meet your needs?
[02:53] <bre4kbeat> srsly?
[02:53] <bre4kbeat> k good
[02:53] <illbeatu> "you aren't getting any support '
[02:53] <todd> koshar2 your a jerk
[02:53] <Dr_willis_> Demand a refund?
[02:53] <j-b-r> It just deletes everything.
[02:53] <todd> my computer is fried
[02:53] <sholsinger> mjc: I've been using Ubuntu 8.04 for months. I tried 7.10 and 7.04 with the motherboard in the past and I was trying to use the ati onboard video... and just... failed. epic fail. Then, 8.04 came out it and it just worked. Then I upgrade my ram (swapped out 2x1gb sticks with 4x2gb sticks and BAM! nvidia driver starts to fail, and the sound no longer works.
[02:53] <illbeatu> it's hard to use n8tuserf
[02:53] <ldiamond> mjc http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=23db07296b3fb4f058fa673124a54a1efb9edef3
[02:53] <j-b-r> Did you do it!?!?!?!?
[02:53] <koshar2>  todd your entitled to your opinion
[02:53] <illbeatu> i am learning everything from scratch
[02:53] <bre4kbeat> well is there any exploit out there for a fresh 8.04 install...i mean i know if someone wants in they are gonna get in
[02:54] <illbeatu> i know the Java language but all these tools just seem so retarded.. the docs don't help at all
[02:54] <todd> koshar2, im just joking around
[02:54] <todd> :)
[02:54] <chestylarue_> is there a distro package for the flashplayer 10? im gettin the same error in terminal  :/
[02:54] <bre4kbeat> just is linux the best os to ward off attacks?
[02:54] <j-b-r> from whayt?
[02:54] <illbeatu> i've done some server side programming etc. etc. etc. never used struts or any of the MVC crap
[02:54] <j-b-r> Ninja's? Robots?
[02:54] <n8tuserf> illbeatu-> i can emphatize with you
[02:54] <bre4kbeat> ive got my firewall set up on my router so idk if im safe
[02:54] <mjc> ldiamond: looks like Line should be a switch
[02:54] <j-b-r> How will that ward off attacks?
[02:55] <todd> im in the bus
[02:55] <illbeatu> i read something and all it does is talk about "random crap beans" and "entities" and "persistance" and i don't know what they are trying to solve with all their buzzwords
[02:55] <illbeatu> open source is really crappy in that regards
[02:55] <todd> poop
[02:55] <n8tuserf> illbeatu-> i agree, stay with simpler stuff
[02:55] <illbeatu> i have to learn it...
[02:55] <illbeatu> as an intern
[02:55] <ldiamond> mjc line is a slider, its already maxed out
[02:55] <illbeatu> and no one else will help me because they don't know either
[02:56] <aquawicket> this is a pain..   how do i just log in as root and do whatever i need without premission nags
[02:56] <n8tuserf> illbeatu-> wow em with cocoon2, xml and java based..now thats bleeding edge
[02:56] <j-b-r> How is gameport formed? How dev/input/ get js0?
[02:57] <durt> bre4kbeat: go to dslreports.com or grc.com to scan your router
[02:58] <Dillizar> how can install flash in usr/lib/opera and not in .mozilla
[02:58] <sholsinger> mjc: any ideas?
[02:58] <mjc> ldiamond: the toggles are there if you can find a tool that will read them... "surround playback switch" "center playback switch" et
[02:58] <j-b-r> How will a router protect him from... Aliens? Pirates? Flying monkeys?
[02:58] <mjc> c
[02:58] <david_> I was wondering why with the sysinfo utility my 2.20ghz dual core processor is being  reported 2x 1650 mhz, is this normal, i tried intel and the won't help me
[02:59] <j-b-r> lol
[02:59] <j-b-r> You got screwed
[02:59] <mjc> david_: dual core means two processors in one package
[02:59] <redvamp128> illbeatu:  I did find this -- though it took some digging libjboss-profiler-java 1.0.CR4-1 (hppa binary) in ubuntu hardy <https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/hppa/libjboss-profiler-java/1.0.CR4-1>
[02:59] <mjc> david_: that is perfectly fine
[02:59] <david_> shouldn't it be 2x 2.20ghz
[02:59] <j-b-r> Processor speeds are approximate
[02:59] <redvamp128> illbeatu:  you are alex_: correct?
[02:59] <david_> ok thanks, i thought i got ripped off
[02:59] <david_> hhahaha
[02:59] <david_> thanx guys
[02:59] <mjc> david_: it could be that speedstep is in use
[02:59] <mjc> david_: speedstep lowers CPU speed when idle
[03:00] <j-b-r> I think you DID get ripped off
[03:00] <david_> what it that
[03:00] <mjc> david_: are you on windows or linux
[03:00] <david_> ubuntu 8.10
[03:00] <j-b-r> My dual 2.0 ghz shows two 2.0 ghz processors
[03:00] <mjc> david_: cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep name
[03:00] <mjc> david_: that will tell you the model name and its real MHz
[03:00] <mjc> david_: my c2d runs at 600MHz at idle and steps up to 2.66GHz when needed
[03:01] <redvamp128> illbeatu:  also found this for intrepid Ubuntu -- Package Search Results -- jboss <http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=jboss&amp;searchon=names&amp;suite=intrepid&amp;section=all>
[03:01] <mjc> david_: model name is the way to know what its maximum speed is
[03:01] <ecalot> I'm having a big trouble with a big hard disk: I'm getting I/O error if the disk is mounted for a while. Badblocks didn't find anything wrong. Already tried googling, but didn't find anything interesting. Any clue?
[03:01] <solexious> Gnome network manager seems to be messed up and doesnt see eth0, how can I get it to re scan so its the same as when it was installed?
[03:01] <zcat[1]> try this; cat /dev/urandom > /dev/null in one terminal then view /proc/cpu in another
[03:01] <n8tuserf> illbeatu-> i would also look at the simpler ibatis instead of that j2ee cr#$@%#
[03:02] <ecalot> the partition size is 1.5Tb
[03:02] <david_> its an Intel(R) Pentium(R) E2200 @2.20ghz
[03:02] <mjc> david_: then that is the correct speed, speedstep is active
[03:02] <Level_5> can someone help me out with a broadcom wireless card?
[03:02] <mjc> david_: do something processor intensive and you should see MHz go up to 2.2
[03:02] <aquawicket> how can i log into the GUI as root?
[03:03] <chestylarue_> terminal gives me error cannot create regular file" when i do the sudo cp
[03:03] <j-b-r> How do I enable my gameport?
[03:03] <n8tuserf> aquawicket -> you have root activated? and not the just the sudo?
[03:04] <mjc> ldiamond: try gnome-alsamixer
[03:04] <ecalot> hey... I'm having a big trouble with a big hard disk: I'm getting I/O error if the disk is mounted for a while. Badblocks didn't find anything wrong. Already tried googling, but didn't find anything interesting. Any clue?
[03:04] <mjc> sholsinger: on 2.6.27 did you have audio? sorry I missed the scrollback, 2 at once is all I can handle haha
[03:04] <mjc> sholsinger: also what motherboard is that
[03:04] <sholsinger> mjc: GIGABYTE GA-MA69GM-S2H http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/Motherboard/Products_Spec.aspx?ClassValue=Motherboard&ProductID=2579&ProductName=GA-MA69GM-S2H
[03:05] <j-b-r> I really want to use my gamepad...
[03:05] <ubuntu__> hi everybody
[03:05] <sholsinger> mjc: I'm booting 2.6.27-7 now. I think 2.6.26 worked when I ran 8.04
[03:05] <Javier> hi can someone help me with a simple thing form compiz fusion? when i double click the top part of a window it rolls in but i want the window to maximize, where can i do that?
[03:05] <soreau> Javier: If you ask for help in a channel, it wont do much good if you don't stay for more than 1.5 minutes. Plus, you didn't even ask a real question
[03:06] <soreau> Javier: Go back to compi-fusion, ask your question in detail and wait patiently
[03:06] <Javier> ok
[03:06] <Javier> srry
[03:06] <error404notfound> how can one get a listing of all softwares available in the repositories?
[03:06] <fosco_> error404notfound, all is too much
[03:06] <j-b-r> sudo apt-get install [tab] [tab]
[03:06] <draeday> can anyone help me modify the file permission for my usb drive it got a windows virus on it an i cant do nothing with my usb any help on how to modify the persmissions
[03:06] <aquawicket> n8tuserf: i can get into root with terminal.     But i just want the GUI to have root privledges so i can copy files to /usr/src/mydir
[03:07] <koshar2> Javier use the maximise box, or right click on the title bar and maximise
[03:07] <phrostbite> What do i need to download in order to use activex on firefox?
[03:07] <j-b-r> 32562 packages
[03:07] <error404notfound> fosco_: I am developing a web app which shows all the available softwares like adept or add/remove... just need a listing..
[03:07] <n8tuserf> aquawicket -> why not su to root and then do the copying?
[03:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Java Runtime i think?
[03:08] <phrostbite> would that be a firefox addon?
[03:08] <error404notfound> j-b-r: I did aptitude search * | wc -l and got 2284
[03:08] <aquawicket> n8tuserf:  cause i don't wanna type it out every singe time i need to do this..   i just wanna drag and drop the easy way
[03:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: U can find it in packetmanager, search for Sun Java
[03:08] <phrostbite> this page comes up when i scroll over this one place on a site saying i need to dl the activex something for my version of firefox.
[03:08] <j-b-r> well if I sudo apt-get install ta b tab I get a lot more than 2284
[03:08] <phrostbite> http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/plugin.htm#download
[03:08] <mjc> ldiamond: any luck with gnome-alsamixer?
[03:08] <n8tuserf> aquawicket -> did you try yet?
[03:08] <aquawicket> yea
[03:09] <aquawicket> permission denied
[03:09] <j-b-r> Ok, if no one knows how I can make my gamepad work, can someone at lease suggest somewhere else I could asK???
[03:09] <n8tuserf> aquawicket -> you can su - root right in a terminal?
[03:09] <error404notfound> j-b-r: I get 209...
[03:09] <aquawicket> yea
[03:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Using firefox 1.x?
[03:09] <ecalot> again... I'm having a big trouble with a big hard disk: I'm getting I/O error if the disk is mounted for a while. Badblocks didn't find anything wrong. Already tried googling, but didn't find anything interesting. The partition size is 1.5Tb. Any clue?
[03:10] <n8tuserf> !who | aquawicket
[03:10] <phrostbite> I am not sure what firefox version I am using. How do i find out?
[03:10] <j-b-r> you only see 209 packages in all the repos?
[03:10] <j-b-r> There are a lot more than that, I promise.
[03:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Try to go in FF, and then about
[03:10] <wolter> firefox is huging 2gb of my ram!!!!
[03:10] <error404notfound> j-b-r: nope, 34373
[03:10] <aquawicket> sorry bout that
[03:10] <wolter> how can that be!!!!
[03:10] <j-b-r> I'm on 8.04
[03:11] <wolter> ubuntu is gota fix firefox/adopt chrome
[03:11] <error404notfound> j-b-r: 209 is number of files and dirs in my current working dir..
[03:11] <keres> STEELERS WON HAHA YEAH WOOHOO
[03:11] <mjc> sholsinger: ok, looks like because gigabyte changes the vendor ID on all the onboard devices, current kernels don't look for it
[03:11] <j-b-r> oh
[03:11] <phrostbite> version 3.0.5 and it says below that ubuntu canonical - 1.0
[03:11] <soreau> Javier: That goes for any channel on irc. Ask your question completely and wait for response. Saying 'can someone help?' and then leaving does no one any good
[03:11] <sholsinger> So... I need to install 8.04 again?
[03:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Ok, then use packetmanager and dl Sun Java
[03:11] <ldiamond> mjc nop, now I added snd-hda-intel in alsa-base, I get different options in the mixer, but nothing relevant
[03:11] <sholsinger> mjc: So... I need to install 8.04 again?
[03:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Then u can get active X plugin in firefox
[03:12] <mjc> ldiamond: you should definitely see 'headphone jack sense' and 'line jack sense' in gnome-alsamixer
[03:12] <judgen> Ubuntu claims i need to buy PowerDVD linux when i try to play a mp3 song.. Claiming that there is no codec for the file. But the funny thing is that the song is playing anyways.
[03:12] <wolter> does anybody want to start a free game team?
[03:12] <mjc> sholsinger: no
[03:12] <wolter> for ubuntu/linux
[03:12] <judgen> how do i stop the message from popping up
[03:12] <judgen> im using rhythmbox btw
[03:12] <phrostbite> I already have sun-java-bin
[03:12] <koshar2> judgen that may be a legal rqirement in your country
[03:12] <judgen> koshar2: it isnt
[03:12] <mjc> sholsinger: one sec I am checking to see if the latest alsa-drivers package has the right code, if not I can make a patch to the hda driver
[03:12] <judgen> koshar2:  im in sweden
[03:12] <ecalot> thanks anyways
[03:13] <koshar2> judgen well you can sleep easy
[03:13] <phrostbite> but there are quite a few sun java things to dl
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: I dont know if its required to use java to get active-x, maybe u can find active-x in packet manager?
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> p
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Just download that one called Sun Java Enviroment
[03:13] <ldiamond> mjc, right now I dont, I'll try something else, brb
[03:13] <judgen> koshar2: its still annoying as hell that he popup appears all the time.
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: something like that! Sorry for my english
[03:13] <sholsinger> mjc: you are familiar with the alsa packages?
[03:14] <error404notfound> so any ideas on generating such a listing?
[03:14] <phrostbite> Thats quite alright
[03:14] <error404notfound> any ubuntu development team members around?
[03:14] <mjc> sholsinger: yes
[03:14] <j-b-r> Please, someone, tell me how to make my soundcard recognize my gamepad!
[03:14] <mjc> sholsinger: my email address is at kernel.org ;)
[03:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Remember to get the stuff i recommend you to
[03:14] <judgen> maybe i should ditch rhythmbox for amarok just to test.
[03:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: i = it
[03:14] <teaguy> hmm i'm having trouble playing dvd's in ibex, they load then stop after the first 10 sec ?
[03:14] <thilmegil> im looking for help if anyone feels up to it. When grub loads and goes to load the login screen my monitor goes black. I can only get video when i use recovery mode.  Using 8.04 hardy
[03:14] <sholsinger> mjc: ah, big shot in this place, eh? ;P
[03:14] <phrostbite> I already have the sun java environment
[03:15] <mjc> sholsinger: not in here, not necessarily.  ;)
[03:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Maybe just install the rest to java then? Or searc after active-x in packetmanager
[03:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: search*
[03:15] <mjc> sholsinger: first part of my email is my irc nick as well; should you have the random desire to email me, heh.
[03:15] <phrostbite> I did a search for active x and nothing came that I need
[03:15] <sholsinger> mjc: you're doing stuff with Reiser?
[03:15] <Pici> phrostbite: ActiveX is for windows only.
[03:16] <mjc> sholsinger: just various janitorial stuff, cleanups
[03:16] <mjc> sholsinger: missing device ids would be one such thing
[03:16] <phrostbite> Ok but there is a site that has the active x for firefox. or am i wrong about this site. http://www.iol.ie/~locka/mozilla/plugin.htm#download
[03:16] <sholsinger> mjc: I bet there is a lot of that to do ;p
[03:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, i think mine ask for active-x the other day i went netbanking, in firefox, linux
[03:16] <judgen> activex is just for windows afaik
[03:17] <mjc> sholsinger: yeah with over 1,000 changes per day it's a neverending battle. fortunately the code is 90% better now than a year ago
[03:17] <phrostbite> If you wanna know where I am at that it says I need it boostmobile.com under the ringtones section
[03:17] <redvamp128> thilmegil:  try going into an earlier kernel see if the issue is reproduces itself
[03:17] <judgen> nothing i would even want, as activex is a huge security risk
[03:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: I think maybe for older versions then?
[03:17] <mjc> sholsinger: lots of efforts to use machines to check for funky practices
[03:17] <mjc> sholsinger: I'm checking out the alsa-driver repository from git
[03:17] <Pici> phrostbite: Thats only for Windows versions of mozilla/firefox.  There is no version of Active-X for Linux
[03:17] <sholsinger> mjc: code checker software?
[03:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Checking site
[03:17] <phrostbite> Well darn. Thank you anyways
[03:18] <j-b-r> Anyone know anything about using the 15 pin gameport?
[03:18] <mjc> sholsinger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sparse
[03:18] <Pici> !ot
[03:19] <mjc> sholsinger: soon as this is finished I will let you know what I find, I am only getting 150KB/sec from git.alsa-project.org :(
[03:19] <sholsinger> mjc: You rock. :) This isn't your day-job is it?
[03:19] <mjc> sholsinger: no job atm ;)
[03:19] <datakid> I am going to buy a dell xps m1530 today if I can. do people recommend using the 64bit installation? Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T6600 (2.2GHz/800Mhz FSB/2MB cache) is the cpu
[03:20] <rainmanp7> what does shankapotomus mean ?
[03:20] <chrometiger> j-b-r: i fixed my sources.list  but i still cant get zsnes for some reason
[03:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Working here
[03:20] <j-b-r> chrometiger: on 8.04?
[03:20] <mjc> datakid: if you need more than 2GB of addressable RAM, you should be using 64bit for both windows and linux
[03:20] <judgen> sholsinger: what is the problem with alsa?
[03:20] <phrostbite> hmm when i scroll over the ringtones I get a popup :(
[03:20] <chrometiger> yeah
[03:20] <sholsinger> mjc: No need? layoff?
[03:20] <j-b-r> Can you get any other packages?
[03:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> FF 3.05
[03:20] <mjc> sholsinger: student, but been out of work since august
[03:20] <ibeekman> hey I accidentally installed kwlan and now NetworkManager is gone and I can't connect
[03:20] <ldiamond> mjc, no luck :(
[03:20] <ibeekman> can anyone help me get back online?
[03:21] <mjc> ldiamond: can you give me a screenshot of gnome-alsamixer ?
[03:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Maybe some flashplayer needed?
[03:21] <mjc> sholsinger: primary language of expertise is ruby
[03:21] <phrostbite> Where would I go to get that?
[03:21] <mjc> sholsinger: C is for fun at the moment
[03:21] <phrostbite> But i can already view flash files and stuff
[03:21] <ibeekman> (I am a kubuntu user but can't seem to join #kubuntu)
[03:21] <datakid> mjc, cheers, we don't really need that much I don't think, butI will be using it for video transcoding - I guess the question is is there a disadvantage to 64bit?
[03:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: Then i dont know :-(
[03:21] <ldiamond> mjc sure
[03:22] <sholsinger> judgen: seems my 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) isn't working.
[03:22] <judgen> sholsinger: what problem did you have with alsa?
[03:22] <ibeekman> Sp0tKubuntu you have any thoughts on how I can sort this out?
[03:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> phrostbite: testes other browsers?
[03:22] <sholsinger> judgen: see above ^
[03:22] <phrostbite> Like what browser?
[03:22] <mjc> datakid: not really, 64bit has more registers... slightly more memory usage but RAM is so cheap
[03:22] <judgen> sholsinger: are you sure its not working at all... or is it extremly low volume?
[03:22] <ldiamond> mjc, did you get the file request?
[03:22] <datakid> mjc cool thanks
[03:22] <sholsinger> judgen: it doesn't even show up in /dev/
[03:22] <mjc> datakid: basically if you install >2GB RAM you need 64bit to be able to address it all
[03:22] <ianm_> don't some binary drivers have problems with 64bit?
[03:22] <koshar2> mjc wider address bus actually
[03:22] <mjc> ldiamond: no, I don't do DCC
[03:23] <mjc> ldiamond: try tinypic.com or something :)
[03:23] <ldiamond> mjc, sec, ill upload it
[03:23] <mjc> koshar2: there are more registers as well
[03:23] <datakid> ok cheers
[03:23] <ibeekman> can someone please help me sort out some connectivity issues?
[03:23] <mjc> koshar2: that is what provides the general code speedup
[03:23] <judgen> Intel HDA isnt binary blobs. they are opensource.
[03:23] <sholsinger> mjc: I'm doing .NET during the day, and PHP at night :)
[03:23] <j-b-r> Gameport. Does anyone here even know what that is?
[03:23] <ldiamond> mjc,
[03:24] <ldiamond> http://ldiamond.net/ss.jpg
[03:24] <timecist> i love .NET
[03:24] <QWonder> can someone give me an example of how to use sshfs?
[03:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> ibeekman: Hmm, maybe banned?
[03:24] <mjc> ldiamond: try ticking the two input source ones
[03:24] <mjc> ldiamond: then do sound-test -c 6
[03:24] <genii> QWonder: In Nautilus:    fish://computername
[03:24] <ibeekman> banned? why?
[03:24] <Stargazer> How can i create an ISO out of a folder ?
[03:24] <micah_> hay i just installed wine and when i go to play gta vice city it runs realy slow why??
[03:24] <ibeekman> right now I am connecting through mibbit, maybe mibbit is banned
[03:24] <mjc> ldiamond: sorry speaker-test -c 6
[03:25] <koshar2> mjc: it can only execute code jsut as fast however , there will still likely only be <256 op codes
[03:25] <ibeekman> because I lost connectivity on my machine
[03:25] <ibeekman> which is why I am here, but no one has replied to me besides you
[03:25] <_VIM_> ibeekman: try asking that in #Ubuntu-ops
[03:25] <_VIM_> this really isnt the place
[03:25] <sholsinger> ldiamond: What widget is that HW monitor on your dock?
[03:25] <ldiamond> mjc, nop, still only 2 speakers working
[03:25] <mjc> koshar2: it can only execute 32bit code as fast as 32bit OSes can, but due to extra registers most code will be faster if simply recompiled
[03:25] <QWonder> Nautilus cannot handle "fish" locations
[03:25] <ibeekman> what is ubuntu ops?
[03:26] <QWonder> besides, I won't always be using nautilus
[03:26] <ldiamond> sholsinger, the temps or the CPU usage?
[03:26] <mjc> ldiamond: hmm. maybe try a regular kernel? from kernel.org, 2.6.29-rc3 would probably be the best bet
[03:26] <mjc> ldiamond: or alternately alsa drivers by hand
[03:26] <koshar2> mjc only real benifit is being able to move bigger words in singe executions
[03:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> ibeekman: You are using a proxy/gateway, maybe thats why
[03:26] <sholsinger> ldiamond: temps
[03:26] <j-b-r> My gameport no work. People can see this even?
[03:26] <QWonder> apparently I'm a retard because I can't figure out the sshfs syntax even when staring at the man page but no one here can help me either
[03:26] <micah_> whats a good server to chat on here im new so i dont no what one to go to
[03:26] <ibeekman> yeah must be
[03:26] <koshar2> mjc oh and the obvious fact that there is more mapable ram
[03:27] <judgen> sholsinger: the Azalia does not happen to be a alc888 or a alc882?
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: dude no, there are 16 GP registers in x86-64 and 8 in x86-32
[03:27] <ibeekman> so should I ask my network config question on ubuntu-ops?
[03:27] <sholsinger> judgen: it is a 889
[03:27] <obtel> Gentlemen is there a "Ubuntu SERVER for Dummies" Book? just got a copy and I am at a complete loss in learning anything.
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: they are also wider
[03:27] <_VIM_> ibeekman: no
[03:27] <QWonder> ibeekman, you can ask in #networking
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: there are also twice as many SSE regs
[03:27] <ldiamond> sholsinger, I'm not sure, sec
[03:27] <sholsinger> judgen: same family of chips, though.
[03:27] <mjc> koshar2: doubling the amount of GP regisers is huge
[03:28] <judgen> sholsinger: i had alot of problems with 888 before, and maybe the same applies to 889, but i just used an older kernel wich solved the problem for me.
[03:28] <ldiamond> sholsinger, sudo apt-get install sensor-applet
[03:28] <ldiamond> sholsinger, sudo apt-get install sensors-applet
[03:28] <koshar2> mjc the extra registers will be a product of dual core and hypervisor functions
[03:28] <mjc> koshar2: no, they are general purpose
[03:28] <sholsinger> judgen: yeah, that seems to be the answer. I think a kernel update killed it. 8.04 it worked out of the box.
[03:28] <ibeekman> I think it is (k)buntu related becaus it was working fine until I accidentally installed kwlan with synaptec
[03:28] <skate2> how do you install a .deb?
[03:28] <ldiamond> skate2 dpkg
[03:28] <koshar2> mjc you can still only have one parity flag, one equil to flag ect...
[03:29] <sholsinger> ldiamond: thx
[03:29] <judgen> skate2: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[03:29] <j-b-r> or just double click
[03:29] <genii> skate2: sudo dpkg -i <debname>
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking host system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking target system type... x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking for a BSD-compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking for gcc... gcc
[03:29] <chrometiger> checking for C compiler default output file name...
[03:29] <FloodBot1> chrometiger: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:29] <chrometiger> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[03:29] <chrometiger> See `config.log' for more details.
[03:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> ibeekman: yeah try that
[03:29] <chrometiger> sorry
[03:30] <slide> So my CD drive won't work when I try to install ubuntu so I installe ubuntu through Wubi which is what I'm using now. I have some space unpartitioned for ubuntu which im wondering if i can use this ubuntu to install onto?
[03:30] <lstarnes> !compile | chrometiger
[03:30] <chrometiger> thats a error i get when installing from source
[03:30] <mjc> koshar2: http://developer.amd.com/SiteCollectionImages/Articles/7662.gif
[03:30] <genii> chrometiger: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:31] <skate2> how do you apt-get install something and automatically install all it's dependencies?
[03:31] <mjc> sholsinger: 17% done, bleh. maybe kernel.org has a mirror of this. let me check
[03:31] <sholsinger> mjc: wow, thats taking forever.
[03:31] <micah_> hay were should i go some small linux games??
[03:31] <judgen> skate2: sudo aptitude install *whatever you want*
[03:31] <koshar2> mjc ahh i see the r8 to r 16 registers,
[03:32] <mjc> koshar2: yes, that alone is a HUGE benefit for all aps
[03:32] <mjc> *apps
[03:32] <mjc> sholsinger: yeah about 300MB
[03:32] <mjc> sholsinger: found a kernel.org copy of it though
[03:32] <KterinK> !dhcp
[03:33] <mjc> sholsinger: much btter, 2.1MB/sec
[03:33] <koshar2> mjc i still think data troughput on the 64 bit address bus is the greatest advance with 64bit.
[03:33] <KterinK> how can i see if i have dhcp server installed?
[03:33] <Pyles17> ok a tutorial for writing a script to rotate the cursor on a tablet says "xsetWacom set stylus Rotate CW". how do i tell it to rotate 180 degrees?
[03:33] <sholsinger> mjc: Thats more like it.
[03:33] <mjc> koshar2: it is, but it doesn't make as big of a difference for most uses
[03:33] <skate2> what's the difference between DHCP and NAT?
[03:33] <sholsinger> mjc: Its in C?
[03:34] <mjc> sholsinger: hm?
[03:34] <mjc> sholsinger: the linux kernel is, yes
[03:34] <ddrane> where's the start button?
[03:34] <sholsinger> mjc: and alsa is part of that?
[03:34] <mjc> sholsinger: yes
[03:34] <micah_> can i install gnome on xubuntu???
[03:34] <Sylphid> skate2, DHCP  is the process of sending and recieving ip information between a client and a server
[03:34] <_VIM_> yes
[03:34] <Pyles17> ddrane: lol it's the "applications" button on the top
[03:35] <ddrane> it was a joke, but yea...
[03:35] <_VIM_> micah_: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[03:35] <mjc> sholsinger: git is version control, includes every change ever made to the source; I am checking out a copy of one of the alsa developers' branches
[03:35] <Pyles17> ddrane: ok good
[03:35] <Sylphid> skate2, NAT is the process of translating internal ip's to a single external ip
[03:35] <micah_> cool it should not slow my system down right??
[03:35] <sholsinger> mjc: i'm familiar with SVN but i've never used git.
[03:35] <_VIM_> micah_: that depends on your system
[03:35] <Pyles17> does anyone know how to alter "xsetWacom set stylus Rotate CW" so it rotates 180 degrees?
[03:36] <micah_> i only have 191 ram
[03:36] <sholsinger> mjc: I've heard a lot about git by watching /. ;)
[03:36] <koshar2> micah_ didnt you say you had 500meg?
[03:36] <mjc> sholsinger: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XpnKHJAok8 linus' talk on git
[03:36] <micah_> what??
[03:36] <_VIM_> micah_: besides, these days Xubuntu is just about as heavy as gnome
[03:36] <illbeatu> hrm. i have to rummage through this open source software directory to find some .sh file located in some undocumented location so i can sh it to install the thing. can open source be any more fun?
[03:36] <koshar2> micah_ ram earler
[03:36] <sholsinger> mjc: I'll watch that at a later time, I'm sure that it'll be better with audio. :)
[03:36] <mjc> sholsinger: also see randal's talk on git after
[03:36] <mjc> sholsinger: yes heh
[03:37] <mjc> sholsinger: 56%
[03:37] <koshar2> _VIM_ flux is a LOT lighter
[03:37] <_VIM_> oh yeah
[03:37] <micah_> well im haveing problems whith installing themes for xcfe
[03:37] <_VIM_> cant argue that
[03:38] <sholsinger> mjc: You see this "turn down the lights" button in YouTube yet?
[03:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sysinfo for 'SPOTLAP': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU: Intel(R)Core2DuoCPUT7250@2.00GHz at 800 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 3/105GB, RAM: 785/2015MB, 124 proc's, 3.45h up
[03:38] <Pyles17> sholsinger: hulu started that. it's awesome
[03:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> Whops, wrong window, sorry!!
[03:38] <mjc> sholsinger: no heh
[03:38] <_VIM_> koshar2: i have just about all the light weight window managers installed :)   well the popular ones anyways
[03:38] <sholsinger> mjc: Pyles17: I can't believe nobody else thought of that before. Although I've seen flash come up in lightbox before.
[03:38] <koshar2>  _VIM_ a hobbie of yours?
[03:39] <mjc> ldiamond, sholsinger you might also want to ask for more help in #alsa
[03:39] <sholsinger> mjc: word. Will do.
[03:39] <_VIM_> kinda heh or just curious koshar2 :)
[03:39] <_VIM_> I went back to gnome though...
[03:39] <mjc> sholsinger: your device id is not in the current kernel, 2.6.29-rc3 even
[03:39] <koshar2> _VIM_: pure x is nice to for apps like xbmc
[03:40] <sholsinger> mjc: ruh roh, raggy.</scooby-doo>
[03:40] <vince_> Can I just take a moment to vent?  I love ubuntu don't get me wrong but sometimes I feel like I spend more time MAKING it work than doing anything usefull with it
[03:40] <mjc> and ldiamond I'm not sure exactly how to toggle it if alsa-info picks it up
[03:40] <mjc> sholsinger: lol
[03:40] <illbeatu> hurray! i get to watch things scroll up the screen for 2 hours while my open source software installs yipee
[03:40] <slide> Is there anyway to instal ubuntu onto a new partition from inside ubuntu?
[03:40] <vince_> Everytime I fix one issue that fix seems to break something else
[03:40] <j-b-r> Gameport, please!
[03:40] <slide> not using a CD
[03:40] <sholsinger> mjc: sorry, the kids watched some today and It just popped into my head.
[03:40] <koshar2> vince_ like my old datsun
[03:41] <_VIM_> koshar2: well, i found myself using so many gnome appz, that I figured it' be best to just stick with gnome, besides my computer isnt that bad Dell 2400 2.4 ghz... Nvidia 5200, 2 gigs RAM  i really don't "NEED" a light weight wm...
[03:41] <vince_> koshar2 : Seriously LOL.  First it was eclipse. A kind fellow helped me get that fixed earlier
[03:42] <whombat> hi all
[03:42] <vince_> I've also been having issues with my sound comming out of the wrong cards.  They all worked but were backwards.. I finaly just gave up and switched my out puts and it worked fine
[03:42] <whombat> when i copy a .desktop file to /usr/share/applications it is not listed in the gnome menu
[03:42] <whombat> any ideas?
[03:42] <whombat> is there an command to update the menu?
[03:42] <vince_> But THEN it decided to switch the outputs for my sound agian and now I have no sound in firefox when im viewing flash vidio's and it was working fine earlier today
[03:42] <koshar2> vince_ it genrally comes down to the apps and hardware you use, the further you stray from the centre the more treaking required
[03:43] <wolter> its urgent, i need to know if firefox keeps temporary files of its downloads...
[03:43] <_VIM_> yes it does
[03:43] <vince_> koshar2 : I have a prebuilt POS eMachine from wallmart.  There isn't ANYTHING exotic in this thing other than a second soundcard
[03:43] <_VIM_> i know for a fact Firefox keeps temp files of youtube videos
[03:43] <koshar2> _VIM_ hardware is cheap these days, i use flux more for appliances
[03:44] <vince_> And every time I get it working right, It just inexplicably breaks agian for no apparent reason
[03:44] <judgen> whombat: the .desktop files are just short text files. you can edit them to make sure your icons show up.
[03:44] <meoblast001> what do i do if PCSX runs too fast
[03:44] <koshar2> vince_ you should prolly blacklist the modules of the sound card you arnt using
[03:45] <vince_> koshar2 : Thats the problem.  I use both
[03:45] <_VIM_> koshar2: yeah flux is good for multiple VM's ... I use flux for my 2nd X server that I have on TTY 3 ...
[03:45] <vince_> or I would just disable the onboard one in BIOS and be done with it
[03:45] <koshar2> vince_ why do you use both?
[03:45] <vince_> One soundcard runs my speakers another run's my headset.
[03:46] <durka> Could not initialize the package information
[03:46] <durka> A unresolvable problem occurred while initializing the package information.
[03:46] <durka> Please report this bug against the 'update-manager' package and include the following error message:
[03:46] <durka> 'E:Type '“deb' is not known on line 56 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list, E:The list of sources could not be read.'
[03:46] <FloodBot1> durka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:46] <vince_> It was working FINE earlier today
[03:46] <whombat> judgen, it is already set up right
[03:47] <judgen> wonder whats new in xfree 4.8
[03:47] <vince_> How do I find out how firefox is piping sound out because I can find no settings to control it
[03:47] <whombat> judgen, i thnk the menu doesnt recognize it on the fly
[03:48] <judgen> whombat: you can just right click the meny button and edit the menus otherwise
[03:48] <_VIM_> durka: looks like you got a typo on '"deb' take out that quote mark on your /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:48] <whombat> judgen, i have written a bashscript that copys the prepared .desktop file to /usr/share/applications
[03:49] <whombat> judgen, wanna do it commandline
[03:49] <sholsinger> mjc: how's it coming?
[03:50] <sholsinger> mjc: I got no response in #alsa.
[03:50] <skate2> what do i do about this when i try to run kregexpeditor it says: error while loading shared libraries: libkio.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:50] <_VIM_> durka: did you get that?
[03:50] <Baatti> alright now..
[03:50] <Baatti> I'm getting real pissed :(
[03:51] <Baatti> so I just re-installed Ubuntu Intrepid, but I have to fix my Atheros 5007 wlan.... anyway, NONE of the links to madwifi are working....
[03:51] <Baatti> I've tried I swear to god every forum site there is
[03:52] <Baatti> like, 2 days ago this worked, now it won't: wget http://snapshots.madwifi.org/special/madwifi-ng-r2756+ar5007.tar.gz
[03:52] <Javier> hello, i've got a question... when i try to send an object via bluetooth a window pops and it says that the backend does'n support it
[03:52] <illbeatu> is it really open source if they require you to pay them for you to learn how to use it?
[03:52] <Javier> what can i do?
[03:53] <kitche> Baatti: probably because snapshots.madwifi.org does not exist
[03:53] <_VIM_> illbeatu: who's making you pay ?
[03:53] <Baatti> kitche yeah, well, where can I get the required madwifi?
[03:54] <zcat[1]> illbeatu: pay to learn what?
[03:54] <illbeatu> i pay with either money or with my life time.
[03:54] <illbeatu> both in prohibitive amounts
[03:54] <rww> Baatti: looks like a problem with Madwifi's servers. You could ask them in #madwifi
[03:54] <illbeatu> in order to use.
[03:54] <rww> !ot | illbeatu
[03:54]  * _VIM_ thinks illbeatu is a bit tipsy
[03:54] <bamhm182> hey
[03:54] <Baatti> ok, thanks
[03:54] <durka> ii installed madwifi yesterday with no problems
[03:55] <bamhm182> how do you edit grub?
[03:55] <rww> bamhm182: GRUB's configuration file is /boot/grub/menu.lst. You can edit that with "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst".
[03:55] <kitche> Baatti: you can't just do sudo apt-get install madwifi-ng?
[03:55] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> you have been whining for a few now, what is it that you are seeking?
[03:56] <durka> no
[03:56] <durka> i found the instructions on some website for installing madwifi, ill brb, try and find it, what architecture r u on? cause that matters, im on 64
[03:56] <bamhm182> alright, thanks
[03:57] <illbeatu> just rambling/feeling depressed at having to use open source
[03:57] <O__o> how to change the permission on the soft link?
[03:57] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> this is not the place to do that, kindly visit #ubuntu-off-topic
[03:57] <bamhm182> if I've got Windows 7 installed to the 2nd partition on hard drive 0, how do I add it?
[03:57] <kitche> O__o: you don't you change the permission on the thing your soft linked to
[03:58] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> btw, even it it was propietary you also have to pay, higher too, try oracle stuff
[03:58] <O__o> i make a softlink in a guest account, how do i prevent the guest user deleting the soft link?
[03:58] <kitche> O__o: by changing the owner
[03:59] <O__o> ok
[03:59] <O__o> how to do that?
[03:59] <kitche> O__o: man chown
[04:00] <illbeatu> does ubuntu mess with my raw socket programming?
[04:00] <gaintsura> question.. my buddy has a system that is very limited on space, I just ran him through the installation process of some of the apps that I use (that he wanted) and we ran out of space on the main drive. is there a way to tell ubuntu to use the secondary drive as if it were part of / without doing some crazy old raid setup. He's running on a p3, 850mhz with 2 ide drives.
[04:00] <spill> anyone famular with firehol?  Looking to allow local network ips to pass through.
[04:00] <illbeatu> i was sending out things using tcphdr c++ library but it appears my tcp header is 0ed out even though i send all binary 1's through the socket
[04:00] <urugTON> join #ubuntu-us-az
[04:01] <kitche> gaintsura: yes just mount the second driver as /usr/bin if you wish of course you would need to do some copying first really
[04:01] <prince_jammys> O__o: you can't
[04:01] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> requires root priviledges to access raw sockets
[04:01] <illbeatu> yes i know
[04:01] <illbeatu> i am running my c++ file with sudo etc.
[04:01] <illbeatu> and looking at the outbound packet in wireshark/ethereal
[04:01] <spill> anyone famular with firehol?  Looking to allow local network ips to pass through.
[04:01] <sholsinger> mjc: how goes it?
[04:01] <illbeatu> is there any way to force ubuntu to stop messing with my outbound packets?
[04:02] <kitche> illbeatu: ubuntu does not mess with your outbound packets
[04:02] <jaylc185> can someone give me a terminal command that will get me a C development interface???
[04:02] <illbeatu> are you sure about that kitche
[04:03] <n8tuserf> spill -> NAT'ing you mean?
[04:03] <n8tuserf> illbeatu -> what makes you believe ubuntu does ?
[04:03] <spill> n8tuserf: well, I'm using dansguardian with firehol and tiny proxy, but now I can't access any of my windows shares with the firewall on.
[04:04] <spill> n8tuserf: I want to be able to give open access to my networked machines.
[04:04] <illbeatu> i send out a packet with all 1's. i see a packet in wireshark with all 0's
[04:05] <n8tuserf> spill -> am not familiar with firehol, but basically it uses iptables,  can you elaborate on your network layout ? whats connected to what?
[04:05] <drunktard> I have a question, i'm using 8.10 for AMD64 and when using firefox the videos are returned to its start point after like 3 seconds...
[04:05] <drunktard> npviewer.bin is taking a lot, rebooting or killing it won't help either... any ideas?
[04:07] <spill> n8tuserf: I've got 3 wifi access points, one router with dns bringing in the cable connection.  about 12 windows workstations connect to the network.  I have ubuntu on my laptop.  thats what I want to be able to see the windows shares.  It works fine still I start firehole.
[04:07] <spill> n8tuserf: I've got dansguardian filtering the net access using tiny proxy and firehol passing through one port address.
[04:08] <n8tuserf> spill ->  a drawing would give me a better picture
[04:08] <BlindCamel> can some one please read this error log and pm with what im doing wrong im trying to install my nvidia graphics driver http://paste.ubuntu.com/112640/
[04:08] <n8tuserf> spill -> also which of these is the linux and acting as a router?
[04:09] <BlindCamel> please pm me with any help
[04:09] <usser> kitche, gaintsura i'd mount /usr on the second harddrive cause thats really where the bulk of the stuff is
[04:09] <spill> n8tuserf: none, of them.  the only machine running linux is my laptop.  the router is hardware, netgear.
[04:09] <spill> n8tuserf: I just can't access the windows shares from my laptop in ubuntu unless I turn off firehol.
[04:10] <n8tuserf> spill -> then turn it off so you can access
[04:10] <spill> n8tuserf: I need to keep it on because I am using it in conjuction with dansguardian and tinyproxy.
[04:10] <kitche> usser: well first you need to copy the old stuff on /usr over to the new drive
[04:11] <usser> gaintsura, or /home you really have to do some analysis to figure whats taking the most space
[04:11] <spill> n8tuserf: I just need to give a list of ips that have network access to and from my laptop to the windows shares.
[04:11] <usser> gaintsura, oftentimes /home directory is the biggest cause thats where users store their junk :)
[04:11] <usser> kitche, yes
[04:13] <vince_> Guys, I hate to say it.. Im going back to windowsa
[04:13] <usser> vince_, good luck :P
[04:14] <Matt_S> vince_, i went back to windows twice before I finally got fed up
[04:14] <Matt_S> good luck though
[04:14] <vince_> usser: I will, Windows for all of its faults has never had one program just inexplicbly just loose access to the sound system for no apparent reason.
[04:14] <n8tuserf> spill -> am not familiar with firehol, have you done any tutorials on how to use firehol?
[04:14] <killemall> good day
[04:14] <killemall> is there a way to get the 'installed date' of ubuntu, i want to know the date i installed the os
[04:14] <vince_> I have googled my butt off and tried about 20 different things.  This is SO frustrating
[04:14] <sancho21> Where can I get list of nice shell functions. Something like documentation of shell functions. For example: sed, grep and others
[04:14] <Guest92472> what partitions should i make for my ubuntu install? / /home swap?
[04:15] <usser> vince_, sound is a mess on ubuntu, i dont know why they pushing pulseaudio, which is half broken. i really dont know
[04:15] <spill> n8tuserf: I'm trying to make sense of it, I'm a bit of a newb, I was hoping for a quicker help :)
[04:15] <usser> vince_, whats that program?
[04:15] <vince_> Im not even useing Pulse Audio!
[04:15] <spill> n8tuserf: I'll keep plugin away though. :)
[04:15] <vince_> THis thing should be using the ALSA driver or OSS if nothing else!
[04:15] <n8tuserf> spill -> no shortcuts, either know iptables or firehol
[04:15] <neptunepink> Agh, help, I did `rm core *` instead of `rm core*`, what should I do?
[04:15] <usser> vince_, hm, whats the program?
[04:15] <vince_> usser : Firefox.. The flash video just quit playing sound
[04:15] <usser> neptunepink, ctrl+C fast
[04:15] <spill> n8tuserf: roger that.
[04:16] <vince_> Everything else works though for some reason my outputs all switched around at the same time this was happening
[04:16] <neptunepink> usser: Uh, the command took less than a second. :P
[04:16] <usser> vince_, did u install libflashsupport
[04:16] <cakey> THE FINAL COUNTDOWN IS NOW PLAYING IN YOUR HEAD
[04:16] <usser> neptunepink, what directory u ran it in?
[04:16] <rww> !terminal | sancho21
[04:16] <vince_> usser : Likely, I've installed about 10 differnent packages that said would fix this but i'll double check
[04:16] <jedi06> What partitions should i make what type (logical or partial) file format ext2/3 and how much should I give to each I have 250 GB of disk?
[04:16] <bamhm182> hey, I really need to get on Windows tonight, but Grub won't let me edit it correctly
[04:17] <killemall> cakey why would you do that
[04:17] <jedi06> i will be installing ubuntu 64bit how much would root need?
[04:17] <jedi06> how much should i give to home?
[04:17] <usser> jedi06, swap goes first, should be equal to the amount of ram, then / partition 20gb should do, rest is /home
[04:17] <jtaji> jedi06: ext3, logical or primary doesn't matter
[04:17] <usser> jedi06, /home goes in the logical partition
[04:17] <sancho21> rww: What do you mean by terminal? I run the script in terminal but I lack of list of useful commands in the shell
[04:17] <vince_> usser: I don't show libflashsupport in Synaptic.  I show flashplugin-nonfree-extrasound which is installed though
[04:17] <bamhm182> I've got access to the menu.lst, but every time I edit it and reboot, it just automatically boots Ubuntu
[04:17] <PMT> world, i'm trying to convince ldap on ubuntu clients not to default to using CRYPT for password encryption
[04:17] <rww> jedi06: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/switching/installing-partitioning.html
[04:17] <robs227> Hey i am using ubuntu and i can hear the drum beat at the log in but once I sign in I lose all sound. Any suggestions on how to fix this?
[04:18] <neptunepink> usser: ~/
[04:18] <realmatt> I am having a problem installing things.  It tells me to run "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix it but it only tells me that it can't authenticate certain packages and won't continue.
[04:18] <usser> vince_, oh yea thats the one.
[04:18] <nickrud> bamhm182, try hitting escape when you see something about grub 1.5 during boot. Should show you a menu
[04:18] <vince_> usser : Yea its in there
[04:18] <rww> sancho21: see the message from ubottu right below "!terminal. Most messages in this channel beginning with !  are bot commands.
[04:18] <bamhm182> thanks nickrud
[04:18] <usser> vince_, you running intrepid?
[04:18] <bamhm182> I'm not sure I edited it correctly though
[04:18] <nickrud> realmatt, put the full output of the apt-get -f install on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:18] <vince_> 8.10 yea
[04:18] <robs227> Hey i am using ubuntu and i can hear the drum beat at the log in but once I sign in I lose all sound. Any suggestions on how to fix this
[04:19] <vince_> usser : 8.10 yea
[04:19] <mjc> sholsinger: checking through the source right now :)
[04:19] <usser> neptunepink, oh no harm done then, it shouldn't touch your directories and couple of files have been deleted, should be nothing serious
[04:19] <jedi06> it says to make your swap double size of your installed memory I will have 4gb of ram
[04:19] <neptunepink> usser: Not *too* bad...
[04:19] <jedi06> I should make it 8gb of swap?
[04:19] <vince_> usser : Sound works everywhere else too.. I can load rythembox or any of my VOIP things.  I can pipe out either soundcard
[04:20] <vince_> and this was working fine earlier today
[04:20] <jtaji> jedi06: no that's poor advice
[04:20] <neptunepink> jedi06: 8GB swap is too big, I think
[04:20] <sholsinger> mjc: cool. :)
[04:20] <usser> vince_, i'm sorry i dont know what to suggest
[04:20] <robs227> Sound work until I log in. What processes occur after log in would interfer with the sound?
[04:20] <jedi06> how big?
[04:20] <neptunepink> $YOUR_MEMORY*1.5
[04:20] <nickrud> bamhm182, put a copy of your menu.lst on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[04:20] <jedi06> so 6gb of swap?
[04:20] <jtaji> jedi06: you can use much smaller than 4GB really, unless you want to hibernate, then use 4GB
[04:20] <Wunderbar> if you have 4gb of ram gb swap is recommended
[04:20] <usser> robs227, pulseaudio might just crash
[04:21] <robs227> no its running
[04:21] <usser> robs227, try sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart after you login
[04:21] <bamhm182> I added title windows 7 beta (Loader)
[04:21] <bamhm182> root (hd0,1)
[04:21] <bamhm182> savedefault
[04:21] <bamhm182> makeactivechainloader +1
[04:21] <rww> jedi06: if you want to hibernate, you need at least 4GB. If not, anything up to about 4GB should be fine. One of my machines with 4GB of memory doesnt have any and is fine.
[04:21] <FloodBot1> bamhm182: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:21] <bamhm182> whoops
[04:21] <nickrud> bamhm182, probably not overlooked, just no one who thinks they know what you want
[04:21] <Wunderbar> 8gb of swap is recommended - i meant to say
[04:21] <nickrud> !pastebin | bamhm182
[04:21] <usser> robs227, also sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils reload
[04:21] <jedi06> well 250gb disk i think i can afford a swap
[04:21] <robs227> i think it is sending sound to my expansion card sound card instead of on board
[04:21] <nickrud> jedi06, laptop or desktop?
[04:21] <jtaji> Wunderbar: lol who recommends it?
[04:21] <jedi06> laptop
[04:21] <realmatt> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112644/
[04:22] <jtaji> 20 years from now people will be saying swap = 2x ram :/
[04:22] <robs227> its like when I log on it sends all sound to the wrong output
[04:22] <blizzard_> hi all i'm ubuntu newbies i want to know hot to add xmms in to menu Sound & Video
[04:22] <vince_> usser: THis is just so D*&* frustrating.  This is a BASIC thing how could they screw this up?  I was having sound issues ealier today though it had to do with not being able to make the right sound go from the right speakers.  I finaly just gave up and switched my outputs.  Now its working on the outputs I wanted originaly and flash audio is broken.  Its like this thing is deliberatly mocking me or something.
[04:22] <nickrud> jedi06, use at least your ram size plus 100mb, so you have more than enough space for hibernate. Otherwise, 512mb is usually enough if you have 2gb mem or more
[04:22] <Wunderbar> it was in the readme or something- swap paritition should be double the ram
[04:22] <mjc> sholsinger: I wouldn't necessarily recommend it for stability, but the topmost "snapshot" link on here should work at least for audio: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/tiwai/sound-unstable-2.6.git;a=summary
[04:22] <bamhm182> alright, so I entered http://paste.ubuntu.com/112645/ after ### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST in the menu.lst, is that right
[04:22] <rww> !xmms | blizzard_
[04:22] <jtaji> Wunderbar: it's outdated advice that's found all over the place unfortunately
[04:23] <rww> !info audacious | blizzard_
[04:23] <blizzard_> yes xmms2
[04:23] <bamhm182> I've got Windows 7 installed on the 2nd partition of hard drive 0
[04:23] <jedi06> ok so when it asks do i put it 5100mb or is a do i need 1024x4+100?
[04:23] <BedPost> Hey, I need some help. Whenever I try to watch a movie, the movie flickers - not the screen, just the movie. Anyone know how to fix it?
[04:23] <usser> vince_, cant really blame ubuntu for flash, its proprietary, and adobe refuses to fix it or opensource it
[04:23] <robs227> i should just get a sound card with linux support instead of dealing with this bullshit
[04:23] <Wunderbar> so what does jtaji recommend?
[04:23] <jtaji> Wunderbar: I think me and someone else gave a recommendation ^
[04:23] <nickrud> realmatt, you're trying to install some stuff from outside the ubuntu repos?
[04:23] <robs227> alright boys going back on winxp late
[04:23] <mjc> sholsinger: if that does work, you should see if ubuntu has any bugs submitted for your motherboard, if not, submit one and mention that it works in e05bc71256ef2fcb219bf074daa5686e6f5a7662 at that url
[04:24] <TheEdge_> BedPost:  what is you graphics card
[04:24] <sancho21> rww: I can't find how to use sed and friends
[04:24] <sancho21> there
[04:24] <mjc> sholsinger: feel free to put me on the list of people to be notified for the bug as well
[04:24] <jedi06> say
[04:24] <RichardWolfVI> Hello all, I can't use my WiFi PCI card when using the server kernel
[04:24] <nickrud> bamhm182, it helps to use a person's nick when you type; it helps keep it from getting lost. It's red in most peoples irc client when the line has their nick in  it. (almost missed you :)
[04:24] <BedPost> TheEdge_: Radeon 4870 (ATI)
[04:24] <earache> Having an issue with Intrepid freezing - periodically freezes up, but I can still move the mouse on screen. Can't ctrl+ alt+del or bkspace to restart - need to hard restart
[04:24] <bamhm182> whoops, sorry
[04:24] <sholsinger> mjc: the last commit from Takashi Iwai?
[04:24] <mjc> sholsinger: if it doesn't work, drop me an email and I will see what I can do.  are you familiar with compiling your own kernel in debian-like distros?
[04:24] <neptunepink> earache: This is because X sucks and should be avoided like the plague
[04:24] <Wunderbar> less than 4gb isn't particularly specific
[04:24] <realmatt> nickrud: I already did that, mplayer and smplayer
[04:24] <mjc> sholsinger: that sha1 string I gave you is the exact commit
[04:24] <Wunderbar> or helpful
[04:24] <sholsinger> mjc: No.... I am not.
[04:24] <mjc> sholsinger: git doesn't use revision numbers
[04:25] <vince_> usser : Thats a stupid argument, no offence, you don't need access to the code you just need to give access to the sound driver and frankly after all the hastle Ubuntu's sound system has been giving me with everything else up to this point.  Forgive me if i DO blame ubuntu
[04:25] <TheEdge_> Bedpost: do you run with all on in apperance ??
[04:25] <earache> neptunepink: I'm an Ubuntu noob, any way to fix it?
[04:25] <sancho21> rww: Thanks. I find a good reference url there
[04:25] <jedi06> Do i put in 4100mb of ram or 4x1024+100?
[04:25] <nickrud> bamhm182, a sec
[04:25] <BedPost> TheEdge_: Err... kinda a linux noob here, could you be more specific?
[04:25] <jedi06> 4196 or 4100
[04:25] <mjc> sholsinger: ok, you can apt-get install kernel-package and copy /boot/config-kernelversion to .config in the source directory
[04:25] <vince_> usser : But thanks for trying to help all the same.  I'm thinking I may just wipe this and start over.... I guess I just have to resign to the fact i'm not going to get any work done tonight
[04:26] <mjc> sholsinger: then make-kpkg --initrd --bzimage buildpackage
[04:26] <jtaji> jedi06: I usually do slightly extra then ram, so yeah like 4200
[04:26] <mjc> sholsinger: when its done it will spit .deb packages out in the directory *above* the kernel source
[04:26] <usser> vince_, thats the thing linux devs keep changing with api, and producing nonsense like pulseaudio, should have just stick with alsa
[04:26] <nickrud> realmatt, what's going on is: a managed file can only be owned by one package, in your case it's the license file. Where'd you get the kde stuff from? You should file a bug there
[04:26] <mjc> and you can dpkg -i linux-image-version-foo.deb
[04:26] <jtaji> jedi06: assuming it's for hibernation purposes
[04:26] <vince_> usser : No argument there
[04:26] <jedi06> jtaji i'm asking does it think that a gb is 1000mb or 1024mb
[04:26] <mjc> sholsinger: http://www.howtoforge.com/roll_a_kernel_debian_ubuntu_way has details
[04:26] <earache> running inspiron 6000, ATI X300 graphics card - seems like a common issue, but haven't read of any fixes
[04:27] <sholsinger> Okay, I've got the matching hash id.
[04:27] <usser> vince_, yea no problem good luck, hope you find a fix
[04:27] <jedi06> nevermind ill put in 4196
[04:27] <vince_> usser : is there anyway I can unupgrade something I did ealier?  Now that I think about it I did a system update today and think some new Kernel headers came in.  I wonder if that broke it.
[04:27] <nickrud> bamhm182, that would be correct, if your windows partition is on the second partition of the first drive
[04:27] <jedi06> to be safe
[04:27] <realmatt> nickrud: the kde stuff should have came from the offical repos
[04:27] <bamhm182> alright
[04:27] <sholsinger> mjc: cool. This will be FUN :) but alas it must wait for another day. I've got your email. I'll put you on the bugnotify list.
[04:27] <nickrud> realmatt, ubuntu official repos?
[04:27] <jedi06> or should i make it a multiple of page size
[04:27] <bamhm182> let me give hitting esc another shot
[04:28] <usser> vince_, you can boot into older kernel, press esc when grub appears, when its doing that 3 sec countdown
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: excellent.  hope you get it worked out, please keep me updated on progress :)
[04:28] <nickrud> bamhm182, you will see at least two entries, both for ubuntu
[04:28] <jedi06> probably 512mb per page
[04:28] <jtaji> jedi06: that's why I use a bit extra, so instead of 4096 (4GB) I'd go 4200
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: you can grab the old kernel's source from 8.04 as well
[04:28] <sholsinger> mjc: do I post the bug in launchpad?
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: should work at least boot
[04:28] <jtaji> jedi06: then I double check what was created anyway :p
[04:28] <mjc> sholsinger: honestly I have never needed to :/ sorry that I'm notm uch help there ;)
[04:28] <nickrud> realmatt, you can confirm where it's coming from with sudo apt-cache policy kdelibs5-data
[04:28] <RichardWolfVI> Are you talking about enabling PSE? I'm having trouble with that?
[04:29] <RichardWolfVI> *I'm having trouble with that
[04:29] <vince_> usser : Mines set up already to do that for dual booting.  I don't see the older option
[04:29] <jtaji> jedi06: pages aren't the issue, but cylinder boundaries I believe
[04:29] <jedi06> oh ok
[04:29] <mjc> sholsinger: generally when I discuss bugs it is at the linux kernel mailing list, but tis not for support :P
[04:29] <usser> vince_, what kernel are you running 2.6.27-11?
[04:30] <mjc> sholsinger: alsa project's debugging intel-HDA page is here: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[04:30] <coppro> Firefox uses native form controls; these are ugly. How do I make it use the ones that are a part of it's theme?
[04:30] <mjc> ldiamond: you might want that as well, the HDA-Analyzer tool: http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug_Intel_HDA
[04:30] <vince_> usser: Yeap AND I see in the history it updated a bunch of Pulse Audio stuff.. I bet thats what killed it
[04:30]  * nickrud thinks those kernel guys should do an hour or two a week of starter's support, just for some humility ;)
[04:31] <vince_> Is there some easy way to roll the system back to this morning? LOL
[04:31] <realmatt> nickrud: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112646/
[04:31] <maxride> I have kind of an issue....I just installed EEEBuntu, My wifi card is not detected and the NDIS Wrapper wont install (Says wrong machine type)....any ideas?
[04:31] <nickrud> realmatt, jaunty support is in #ubuntu+1 .
[04:31] <Javier> hello i have a question, a can't play dvd's or burn dvds, what can i do?
[04:31] <nickrud> !jaunty | realmatt (and, you've got BreakAge :)
[04:31] <realmatt> nickrud: ah thank you
[04:32] <sholsinger> mjc: theres a bugzilla, standard bug-reporting style is requested. ;) I'm at home there.
[04:32] <bamhm182> nickrud, it showed up this time, but when I clicked on windows 7 it says  something along the lines of Boot Manager missing
[04:32] <mjc> sholsinger: excellent. :)
[04:32] <jedi06> so swap is the first partition i should make
[04:32] <nickrud> bamhm182, an exact error would help; but how windows boots is outside of my skill set
[04:32] <vince_> I guess there isn't
[04:33] <maxride> ...
[04:33] <Javier> ﻿hello i have a question, a can't play dvd's or burn dvds, what can i do?
[04:33] <nickrud> maxride, I'd suggest trying in #ubuntu-eeepc , if someone is there
[04:33] <RichardWolfVI> hmm, no help already?
[04:33] <nickrud> maxride, just enough differences that it can matter
[04:34] <bamhm182> alright, I might be able to do my homework from Ubuntu, I'll just do it here and work on getting Windows 7 working later
[04:34] <maxride> nickrud, Thanks...they'd probably know a bit more about Netbook config in there....
[04:34] <nickrud> maxride, if someone is awake :)
[04:34] <bamhm182> thanks for helping though nickrud
[04:34] <nickrud> bamhm182, at least you know grub is going to the right partition
[04:35] <sholsinger> mjc: would this be a device driver bug?
[04:35] <bamhm182> I'm not sure that it is
[04:35] <bamhm182> nickrud, I think that it may just be seeing that there should be something somewhere that's know as Windows 7 beta loader because I put it in frub
[04:35] <bamhm182> *grub
[04:35] <nickrud> bamhm182, well, if you gave the exact error we'd be able to give you more info. Usually you get an error 17 or 15 if for incorrect parittions
[04:36] <nickrud> Javier, could you give more details? Are you sure the dvd is working?
[04:36] <bamhm182> It doesn't give an error, that I saw, but I'll check once more
[04:36] <whabo> help how do i change my screen resolution?
[04:36] <bamhm182> than I'll report back, and than if we can't get it sorted, I'll do my homework on Ubuntu
[04:37] <whabo> it tells me the max is 1024x760 but i have a 19 inch screen... it is only reading the laptop's screen
[04:37] <Javier> ﻿nickrud: i can play and burn dvds in windows vista, its the only dvd drive i have installed (it's an LG)
[04:37] <darius_> anyone have a G9 mouse working with 8.10?
[04:37] <darius_> Sorry, I mean all buttons working?
[04:37] <coppro> How do I get the normal Firefox theme for other OSes?
[04:38] <nickrud> Javier, ok, what happens when you insert a cd or dvd and close the door?
[04:38] <rww> darius_: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ManyButtonsMouseHowto ?
[04:38] <nickrud> whabo, what video card do you have
[04:39] <whabo> Help how can i change my resolution even tho it only shows 1024 x 760 ... I HAVe a 19" monitor ... Help anyone? the screen fonts are too big/ and icons too. i just need to change the resolution to 1900 or so .. it is a 19 inch screen. THANK YOU
[04:39] <Level_5> can someone here help me get my broadcom wireless card configured?
[04:39] <nickrud> Javier, soooo many things to consider when thinking about hardware ;)
[04:39] <nickrud> whabo, what video chip does you laptop have?
[04:40] <Cpudan80> whabo: you can use xrandr
[04:40] <Cpudan80> whabo: !xrandr
[04:40] <whabo> it is an old ATI built it .. the video card is properly recognized ....
[04:40] <Cpudan80> oops
[04:40] <Javier> ﻿nickrud: the dvd apperas in the desktop
[04:40] <Cpudan80> !xrandr | whabo
[04:40] <whabo> thx
[04:40] <whabo> !xrandr
[04:40] <Cpudan80> whabo: fyi - LVDS is the laptop display, that's not the one you want to mess with ;-)
[04:40] <nickrud> whabo, the chip often has an effect: Like if it was nvidia, I'd just say use nvidia-settings
[04:41] <nickrud> Javier, this is a movie dvd?
[04:41] <Javier> ﻿nickrud: when i try to play it whith totem, it says that there was an error
[04:41] <nickrud> Javier, is this a movie dvd?
[04:41] <Javier> ﻿nickrud: yes a movie dvd
[04:42] <nickrud> !libdvdcss | Javier (you need to get some extra software to read encrypted (commercial) video dvds)
[04:42] <PMT> god damn it
[04:42] <Javier> ﻿nickrud: totem cannot play thes dvd, althought there is a complement installed that can manipulate it
[04:42] <bamhm182> nickrud, it says exactly this "Starting up... | BOOTMGR is missing | Press Ctrl+Alt+Del to restart"
[04:42] <PMT> my ubuntu LDAP clients keep setting non-MD5 crypt passwords for the LDAP users when I change it
[04:42] <PMT> my non-Ubuntu LDAP clients do not
[04:43] <nickrud> Javier, that's a problem with encryption, most very likely: you need to install the libdvdcss program. https://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html#dvdplayback has the details (that factoid is way too general)
[04:43] <racarter> anyone use banshee?
[04:43] <nickrud> racarter, a little, yes
[04:43] <racarter> I'm looking for something to listen to music on linux with, i'm used to itunes
[04:44] <racarter> is there anything that will let me import music on a shared drive
[04:44] <bamhm182> nickrud, did you see my message?
[04:44] <nickrud> bamhm182, that sounds like a windows error message to me. But, I'm no expert on windows
[04:44] <Javier> ﻿nickrud: but also when i try to burn a dvd-rw an error keeps appearing
[04:44] <bamhm182> nevermind
[04:44] <bamhm182> alright
[04:44] <nickrud> Javier, one thing at a time.
[04:44] <racarter> all the music is in subdirectories on a shared drive, it looks like banshee can't handle that?
[04:44] <nickrud> Javier, and telling us what the errors are, exactly, helps a great deal
[04:45] <nickrud> racarter, shared as in how shared? samba? Never tried that myself
[04:45] <Javier> ok
[04:45] <racarter> yeah samba
[04:45] <racarter> smb
[04:45] <racarter> the smb part does not seem to be the problem, it's that the mp3 files are in subdirectories
[04:45] <racarter> i don't feel like recursing each directory manually
[04:46]  * nickrud is lazy like that too ;)
[04:46] <racarter> i just want to import all **/*.mp3 files in the parent directory
[04:46] <tonsofpcs> anyone know if hardware accel with the Intel G33 Express chipset is available?
[04:46] <Cpudan80> Whats the command to completely remove a package?
[04:46] <Pyles17> how might i get my tablet rotation to work? preferrably with the rotate button
[04:46] <bamhm182> nickrud, I googled, it looks like it is something broken with WIndows
[04:46] <nickrud> Cpudan80, sudo apt-get purge
[04:47] <bamhm182> either way, screw it, I've got a lot of homework, I really shouldn't have spent as much time as I already did trying to get this to work, later everyone
[04:47] <racarter> do linux users just not listen to music?
[04:47] <nickrud> bamhm182, at least you know where to look later.
[04:47] <racarter> is there anyway to get an ipod to work on a linux machine btw?
[04:47] <Javier> nickrud: it gives me no name for the error
[04:47] <nickrud> racarter, sure do, but I guess the people here at the moment aren't using samba for sharing music files.
[04:47] <gaintsura> is gparted included on a default ubuntu install?
[04:47] <rww> !ipod | racarter
[04:48] <rww> gaintsura: no. install the package "gparted" to get it.
[04:48] <nickrud> Javier, what does it say? And, how are you trying to get the dvd to write?
[04:48] <whabo> guys with xrandr how can i make it recognize the external screen it only shows a star next to the LVDS 1024 x 760 .. can any one help me brind this resolution up for my external screen thank you.
[04:48] <racarter> bah, i hope i don't have to modify the ipod for this
[04:48] <racarter> apple is worst than microsoft in some ways
[04:48] <racarter> in a lot of ways
[04:48] <nickrud> racarter, ah, which one? My nano 3d gen works great with banshee
[04:49] <Depressed> I did "umount /dev/sdb" which unmounted my USB flash memory drive. how do I mount it back?
[04:49] <rww> racarter: if it's not an iPod Touch or iPhone, it should work fine.
[04:49] <Depressed> I had to unmount to change the filesystem to vfat
[04:49] <Javier> nickrud: i try to burn anything an iso file or music into the dvd, when i starts to delete the previous info, the window turns black and the application freezes
[04:50] <nickrud> http://www.gtkpod.org/libgpod/  racarter just about every app uses this library, this page has the latest info
[04:50] <Cpudan80> nickrud: THanks for the info
[04:50] <nickrud> Javier, what application? It's hard to help without detaild info
[04:52] <nickrud> Depressed, you can just unplug and plug it back in
[04:52] <Javier> nickrud: the app is brassero, it happens also with the sipler burner in ubuntu 8.04, the message that appears or hwo it think it translates is 'undriven error aborted' here's the log error : Error no manejado, abortando (brasero_burn_record burn.c:2270)
[04:53] <Depressed> nickrud: I used mkfs.vfat and when I unplug and plug in back it doesn't detect it
[04:53] <Depressed> I needed a vfat filesystem on it to make a bootable ubuntu installation
[04:53] <Javier> nickrud: it happens also with nero
[04:54] <nickrud> Javier, sounds like it's a kernel problem. So, what error do you get when you try playing the movie with totem?
[04:54] <Ultraputz> how can i make an ubuntu server (fresh install) advertise ssh under zeroconf?
[04:55] <nickrud> Depressed, if it got written properly, you should be able to do sudo mount /dev/sdb /mnt . it should be available at /mnt , and show up in the list when you type just  mount
[04:55] <nickrud> Ultraputz, #ubuntu-server is usually the best place for serious server questions
[04:55] <Depressed> nickrud: it said mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[04:55] <Depressed> I also tried mount -t vfat - no results
[04:56] <Depressed> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdb, missing codepage or helper program, or other error
[04:56] <Ultraputz> i didn't realize turning on zeroconf was serious :-) thanks chief
[04:56] <nickrud> Depressed, if it got written properly, you should be able to do sudo mount /dev/sdb -t vfat  /mnt  (normally mount can figure this out)
[04:56] <jedi06> when i create my swap should i put it at begginning or end?
[04:56] <nickrud> Depressed, then I'd guess that you have a bad write
[04:56] <Depressed> is there a difference between "mount -t vfat /dev/sdb /media/home" and "mount /dev/sdb -t vfat /media/home"
[04:57] <nickrud> jedi06, doesn't matter, but some prefer beginning
[04:57] <bamhm182> nickrud, or really anyone, I need to type a file that can be opened in Microsoft Office 2003, even a basic .txt file would work well enough, what app can I use?
[04:57] <nickrud> Depressed, not that I remember ;)
[04:57] <lianimator> Is there a way to batch rotate photos by selection?
[04:57] <Javier> nickrud: i installed this ubuntu yesterday it's ubuntu 8.04; what totem says is that it couldn't play the dvd althought there is a complement installed than can manipulate it
[04:57] <nickrud> bamhm182, openoffice. Tell it to save as .xls
[04:57] <Depressed> I need to format my USB with the vfat file system. what's the easiest way to do this? I tried google, I'm stuck on this for hours :(
[04:57] <bamhm182> isn't .xls excel?
[04:57] <bamhm182> so wouldn't it save it as a spreadsheet?
[04:58] <nickrud> bamhm182, yes. I had a brain fart; I save many spreadsheets for windows users and just typed it by instinct. Save as  .doc ;)
[04:58] <jedi06> https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/switching/installing-partitioning.html this guide is saying make swap / and /home all logical is that right?
[04:58] <emsenn> Does anyone know of a boot parameter for the ubuntu 8.10/8.04 livecd that points to filesystem.squashfs being in a non-standard directory?
[04:59] <darius_> Trying to get the G9 working, tried the link from earlier - any help would be appreciated  http://pastebin.ca/1325073
[04:59] <Depressed> nickrud - any ideas?
[04:59] <nickrud> bamhm182, be sure to use fonts that your windows users will have, so your formatting doesn't get messed up.  saving as a pdf and giving those out will preserve formatting, if you can turn that in.
[04:59] <jedi06> does it really matter?
[04:59] <bamhm182> I figured out how to save it as a .doc
[05:00] <nickrud> Depressed, not really; I have formatted exactly one usb stick and it just worked
[05:00] <darius_> apparently the g9 mouse shows up as a keyboard as well
[05:00] <tehquickness> Is there a media manager for linux that wont upload duplicates to your mp3 player that anyone knows of?
[05:00] <jtaji> jedi06: they can be either primary or logical, just making them all logical might be more flexible if you ever need to shuffle partitions around
[05:00] <darius_> so I'm confused on what to change and where
[05:00] <nickrud> jedi06, it doesn't matter; I've used all primary, mixed primary & logical and all logical at one time or another
[05:00] <Javier> ﻿nickrud: i installed this ubuntu yesterday it's ubuntu 8.04; what totem says is that it couldn't play the dvd althought there is a complement installed than can manipulate it.
[05:00] <bamhm182> does anyone know of a font that both Ubuntu and Windows have?
[05:00] <emsenn> Depressed: sudo apt-get install gparted, System->Administration->Partition Editor
[05:00] <jedi06> so why do they make two different types
[05:01] <Depressed> thanks.
[05:01] <bamhm182> I've got to go, later everyone
[05:01] <prince_jammys> bamhm182: install msttcorefonts and use one of those
[05:01] <emsenn> Does anyone know of a boot parameter for the ubuntu 8.10/8.04 livecd that points to filesystem.squashfs being in a non-standard directory?
[05:01] <Depressed> emsenn: trying that now
[05:01] <nickrud> Javier, for probably the same reason that it can't write. It's possible that your drive is having issues. the best thing you can do look for errors in the output of the dmesg command
[05:01] <bamhm182> thanks prince_jammys, I will do that later
[05:02] <mohadib> without xinserama i cant do this
[05:02] <mohadib> er
[05:02] <mohadib> is it possible to set up xorg so i can drag windows between displays without xinerama turned on?
[05:02] <nickrud> Javier, that is the record of the kernel starting up and finding all the hardware. you would look for your dvd in there ;(
[05:02] <jtaji> jedi06: there is a historical 4 (primary) partition limit, to overcome that limit one primary is turned into an "extended" container partition which can contain further "logical" paritions
[05:03] <jedi06> so its really a legacy and should be fixed
[05:03] <jtaji> jedi06: logical partitions are the fix :p
[05:03] <quassel181> mohadib: xinerama is almost totally deprecated now and doesn't work with many (if any) current drivers.
[05:03] <Javier> nickrud how do i know it's my dvd? what name does it have?
[05:03] <nickrud> hahahha. Sort of like a gas pedal on the right and clutch pedal on the left is legacy
[05:03] <jedi06> ok fine
[05:03] <quassel181> You want to be using xrandr now.
[05:03] <arvind_k> jtaji, hey i didnt know that... the primary partition stuff
[05:03] <Krstnsn> so.... im having serious issues with firefox
[05:04] <nickrud> Javier, it can vary. You should see something about the name of the dvd manufacturer and the model.
[05:04] <Javier> nickrud: thanks. i'll check it now
[05:05] <mbmb> Hi, I arrive newly
[05:05] <Modjor> hi all, whats the best client for irc ? im using hydra but it doesnt do blinking when someone responds on the main chatroom
[05:05] <jedi06> so now i have an sda5-7 no 1-4
[05:05] <jedi06> looks weird
[05:05] <nickrud> Modjor, xchat is very popular
[05:05] <emsenn> Modjor: Depends on how sophisticated you want, but irssi tends to be highly recommended
[05:05] <mohadib> quassel181: anything else that can give me similar functionality
[05:05] <mbmb> I glad to speak whit us¡
[05:05] <mohadib> i like having one big desktop streatch accross all displays
[05:05] <quassel181> mohadib: xrandr
[05:06] <nickrud> welcome mbmb
[05:06] <mohadib> yet be able to maximaizxe a window to one display
[05:06] <mohadib> quassel181: xrandr is broken for me
[05:06] <quassel181> I don't know if it can do that or not, but xinerama will mostly just lock up your X now.
[05:06] <mohadib> not sure whay
[05:06]  * quassel181 dunno
[05:06] <exmachina> how do i figure out where my flash drive is in /dev/
[05:06] <mohadib> i have used xinerama for ever
[05:06] <mohadib> works well
[05:06] <mohadib> just the compositor for xfce doesnt work with it on
[05:06] <n0yd> Anyone running a Macbook Pro 5.1 or the MBP Aluminum, and has multitouch working so I can actually click and drag things? ;)
[05:06] <Modjor> nickrud, i used to have xchat but they want me to pay after a month use ?
[05:07] <mohadib> ah
[05:07] <nickrud> Modjor, windows? There's a free version, a sec
[05:07] <mohadib> xrandr works now that xinerama is off
[05:07] <mohadib> hmm
[05:08] <rainmanp7> Gdnight
[05:09] <unused_bagels> i need help getting the latest version of a program, but apparently all it is is sauce code.
[05:10] <unused_bagels> I don't know how to compile source code
[05:10] <nickrud> Modjor, http://www.silverex.org/download/
[05:10] <Javier> nickrud: i see a lot of errors, how can i identify the source?
[05:10] <Modjor> thanks a lot nickrud
[05:10] <alex_> where does ubuntu keep the bin.jar files for mysql jdbc connectors?
[05:10] <nickrud> Javier, googling the errors? There's no troubleshooting tree for the kernel that I know of
[05:11] <Javier> ok
[05:11] <Javier> so, do i have to buy a new dvd drive?
[05:11] <Javier> nickrud: ﻿do i have to buy a new dvd drive?
[05:11] <nickrud> Javier, maybe. If you could borrow one to try
[05:11] <Javier> i'll try that
[05:12] <nickrud> Javier, but I'm just guessing, I'm not at your machine
[05:12] <nickrud> unused_bagels, what program (with link)
[05:12] <Javier> nickrud: thanks you've been realy helpfull, see you later,i've got to go
[05:12] <unused_bagels> nickrud: teeworlds teeworlds.com
[05:12] <nickrud> Javier, I don't feel like I've helped you much, but I hope you were able to get some ideas
[05:12] <mohadib> quassel181: xrandr doesnt seem to work with multilpe video cards
[05:13] <mohadib> just one card with multiple heads
[05:13] <unused_bagels> I want to use version 5.1 and my buddies all have that.  I'm incompatible.
[05:13] <mohadib> or so it seems thus far
[05:13] <Brando753> hey how do i do i copy stuff in a folder thats got a lock on it?
[05:13] <agus> how can i use my samba ??
[05:13] <Javier> nickrud: i've got anothe question, how come i'm able to burn and watch dvds in vista?
[05:14] <Javier> nickrud: can it be the driver?
[05:14] <nickrud> software/hardware mismatch
[05:14] <agus> mao pada makan kagak udah jam 12 siang nihhh
[05:14] <Depressed> I messed my partitions and when I try to boot ubuntu now I get Error 22 grub loader. how to fixmbr?
[05:14] <alex_> so.. i download the mysql package and mysteriously the mysql-connectors disappear from ubuntu?
[05:14] <alex_> what goes on
[05:15] <Brando753> hey how do i do i copy stuff in a folder thats got a lock on it?
[05:15] <unused_bagels> nickrud : http://teeworlds.com
[05:15] <nickrud> unused_bagels, looking at it
[05:15] <unused_bagels> oh sorry nickrud
[05:16] <skeebo> is there any demonoid users out there that know why their site is down?
[05:16] <emsenn> I'm building a custom liveusb, and am wondering if there is any way to force ubuntu, via boot parameters, to look in a nonstandard directory for /casper/filesystem.squashfs
[05:16] <emsenn> Its most likely been raided and/or shut down again, skeebo
[05:16] <mohadib> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-613001.html
[05:16] <vince> Can anyone tell me what Flash Audio and WINE audio have in common?  Both were knocked out by the lastest kernal update on my machine
[05:16] <mohadib> aye, seems xrandr is till pretty beats
[05:16] <mohadib> beta
[05:16] <emsenn> But there's nothing certain yet
[05:16]  * skeebo worries and crosses fingers
[05:17] <mohadib> vince: grab the restricted modules pkg for that kernel
[05:17] <vince> Everything else seems to work fine though
[05:17] <mohadib> willprobably fiox you up
[05:17] <mohadib> just guessing
[05:17] <skeebo> emsenn: thanks
[05:17] <Depressed> I messed my partitions and when I try to boot ubuntu now I get Error 22 grub loader. how to fixmbr?
[05:17] <Javier> nickrud: if i'm able to burn and play dvds in vista, could it be related to the driver?
[05:17] <emsenn> no problem
[05:17] <Brando753> hey how do i do i copy stuff in a folder thats got a lock on it? Anyone?
[05:17] <vince> mohadib: What am i looking for in Synaptic for that exactly?  Should the restricted modules been updated at the same time?
[05:17] <nickrud> Javier, yes, that's what I meant by hardware/software problems. Drivers are not easily changed
[05:18] <skeebo> Brando753, root privileges maybe?
[05:18] <Brando753> how though, how can i open a folder as root
[05:19] <Javier> nickrud: ok, thanks i'll see what i can do, i appreciate yout attention, bye
[05:19] <drunktard> are there any guides for optimizing ubuntu for AMD64 and if any debootstrapping for i386 are recommended for some programs?
[05:19] <mohadib> vince: apt-cache search `uname -r` | grep -i header
[05:19] <nickrud> unused_bagels, I took a look at the source; it doesn't use a build system that I'm familiar with at all.
[05:19] <skeebo> Brando753, gksudo nautilus
[05:19] <skeebo> i belive
[05:19] <Brando753> ?
[05:19] <unused_bagels> nickrud any idea how I should go about installing that?
[05:19] <ThePlastikJesus> If i was to install windows xp from the xp CD over ubuntu is there anything i need to do before or will the xp installer format the ubuntu?
[05:20] <unused_bagels> nickrud or where to look at least?
[05:20] <skeebo> open a terminal and type gksudo nautilus
[05:20] <skeebo> brando753
[05:20] <mohadib> ThePlastikJesus: xp instller will bugger your boot loader
[05:20] <nickrud> unused_bagels, I'd suggest their forums or documentation
[05:20] <mohadib> er nvm
[05:20] <Brando753> thanks
[05:20] <mohadib> ThePlastikJesus: you will be good to go
[05:20] <unused_bagels> all right then.
[05:20] <unused_bagels> nickrud thanks anyway
[05:20] <ThePlastikJesus> mohadib:thx
[05:20] <emsenn> What sort of file is ".ko" and is possible to edit it by hand?
[05:20] <mohadib> np
[05:20] <skeebo> Brando753, no problem
[05:21] <mohadib> emsenn: kernel module
[05:21] <mohadib> you can not edit it
[05:21] <mohadib> you can pass options to it on load
[05:21] <emsenn> Is there any way to see what options it can take?
[05:21] <vince> mohadib : DO you want the output from that command?
[05:21] <mohadib> vince: the output is the pkg you should instakk
[05:21] <mohadib> install
[05:22] <Brando753> thanks dude that worked :D
[05:22] <tuxfan> do you actually need  anti-virus software in linux?
[05:22] <drunktard> ThePlastikJesus: no really, it will overwrite lilo/grub so check for guides on google
[05:22] <mohadib> like linux-hearder-2.6.26-restried
[05:22] <skeebo> Brando753, no problem man, glad to help
[05:22] <mohadib> vince: greap for restricted
[05:22] <mohadib> i use debian and got my channels mixed up
[05:22] <mohadib> lol
[05:22] <mohadib> just apt-cache search (kernel-version) | grep -i restricted
[05:22] <vince> mohadib : So I want the restricted modules from linux-headers-2.6.27-7-generic?
[05:22] <mohadib> vince: froget that header part
[05:22] <ThePlastikJesus> drunktard: I'm not trying to keep ubuntu just install xp on this pc
[05:23] <ninom> Hello Everyone!
[05:23] <mohadib> though having the kernel headers installed is good too
[05:23] <mohadib> vince: apt-cache search `uname -r` | grep -i restricted
[05:23] <tuxfan> so do you actually need anti-virus software in linux?
[05:23] <mohadib> install the pkg it spits out ^
[05:23] <tuxfan> NE1
[05:23] <ninom> I have a question. My machine is 64bit capable, should i go with 32 bit ubuntu or 64 bit, because lets say windows 64 bit has issues that some drivers dont work with hardware and so on.
[05:23] <prince_jammys> tuxfan: not really, no
[05:24] <drunktard> alrighty then
[05:24] <ninom> if anyone can help i would appreciate it
[05:24] <Cpudan80> ninom: if you have no reason to use  64 - stick with 32
[05:24] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> i cant live without 64-bit :P 6gbram i have :)
[05:24] <usser> ninom, although a lot of issues were fixed with 64bit ubuntu, unless you have more than 3gb of ram, i recommend going with 32bit
[05:24] <Cpudan80> ninom: if Adobe would ever get their head out of the ground and make flash work for 64bit ....
[05:24] <ninom> i have 4 gigs of ram
[05:25] <Cpudan80> then you have no choice
[05:25] <nathanhelp> I upgraded automatically today and (unusually) an notification popped up. "What do you want to do about smb.conf file." I asked it to show differences between the files and I don't really know what I'm looking at. Would it be safe to automatically upgrade using the auto-updater allowing things to overwrite?
[05:25] <mohadib> usser: even then, you can use the big mem hack
[05:25] <unused_bagels> nickrud i found the source code.
[05:25] <Cpudan80> Do NOT use PAE hacks to fix it so you can see 4 GBs
[05:25] <ninom> oh so flash doesnt work with ubuntu 64 bit ok, thats not good for me i need flash
[05:25] <Cpudan80> ninom: it works
[05:25] <vince> mohadib : I ran that command and then attempted to install the file it gave me.  Apt-Get says I already have the latest version
[05:25] <mohadib> usser: all 4 gigs of my ram are addressed and used with 32 bit lunix
[05:25] <usser> ninom, it works but its flakey
[05:25] <Cpudan80> ninom: it isnt as stable as some would like
[05:25] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> flash works for me in ubuntu 64-bit
[05:25] <ninom> so you guys think just stick with 32 bit
[05:25] <mohadib> vince: hmm, not sure why you are getting buggered then, sorry
[05:25] <mohadib> ninom: i did
[05:25] <Cpudan80> Adobe really needs to fix flash for 64 bit
[05:25] <usser> mohadib, yea you can use like a server kernel or enable PAE on the desktop
[05:25] <mohadib> because of flash and java appplets
[05:25] <Cpudan80> Its broken on windows too
[05:26] <ninom> i am mostly using my computer for some music making, internet, and maybe office word and stuff like that
[05:26] <nathanhelp> ninom: I would wait for a year or two beofre going to 64bit
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Yes Adobe and Sun need to get together and jump on the 64 bit bandwagon
[05:26] <mohadib> me too
[05:26] <usser> mohadib, java is completely 64 bit nowadays
[05:26] <mohadib> usser: not the applet or webstart plugin
[05:26] <Cpudan80> Java is a little hoakey on the 64 side
[05:26] <Cpudan80> anyway
[05:26] <mohadib> the jvm is
[05:26] <Cpudan80> I need to hop off
[05:26] <usser> mohadib, cant for the life of me figure why there needs to be a browser plugin in the first place
[05:26] <mohadib> you have to install a 32 bit apllet plugin and webstart
[05:26] <batcoder-7> anyone here ever use curlftpfs?
[05:26] <nathanhelp> I upgraded automatically today and (unusually) an notification popped up. "What do you want to do about smb.conf file." I asked it to show differences between the files and I don't really know what I'm looking at. Would it be safe to automatically upgrade using the auto-updater allowing things to overwrite?
[05:27] <vince> Anyone else have any idea's why FLASH Audio and WINE Audio dosen't work with the new Kernel update?  If someone could tell me how to downgrade back to what I had this morning that would be helpfull as well
[05:27] <mohadib> usser: that was pre webstrart days
[05:27] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> anyone else here using synergy? its awsome :)
[05:27] <mohadib> webstart is replacing applets mostly
[05:27] <mohadib> T1T4N1UM_M4N: indeed
[05:27] <mohadib> vince: other audio does?
[05:27] <nathanhelp> T1T4N1UM_M4N: I want to soon, once my HD's are actually set up. Any tips or hints?
[05:27] <usser> T1T4N1UM_M4N, yep synergy rocks
[05:27] <ninom> guys, thank you for your answers, i was already ubuntu user with 32 bit but i didnt know if my computer would be faster with 64 bit you know, like if i would see a big difference. also why i left ubuntu i wasnt able to find any media center programs, to stream media over my wireless to my ps3 so i can watch movies on my tv without connecting it directly to my computer.
[05:27] <vince> mohadib : I have 2 sound cards and everything else works fine with them
[05:28] <nathanhelp> ninom: VLC streams
[05:28] <mohadib> vince: you do run a sounds daemon or something?
[05:28] <mohadib> esd or the like?
[05:28] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> well not really its pretty simple to set up althogh the gui could be better :)
[05:28] <mohadib> maybe thats buggering
[05:28] <ninom> is it easy to setup nathanhelp?
[05:28] <batcoder-7> emacs vs vim?
[05:28] <vince> mohadib : I did the update today, all my imputs got switched around and flash quit working.  I just noticed WINE also is dead when I went into Ventrillo and its busted there as well
[05:28] <mohadib> lol
[05:28] <batcoder-7> what one is generally thought as better?
[05:28] <mohadib> batcoder-7: nano!
[05:28] <vince> mohadib : Be honest with you I have no clue
[05:29] <nathanhelp> ninom: I've never tried, since i have no need of streaming. However i DO know that VLC has the capability
[05:29] <batcoder-7> nano is not so good for programming
[05:29] <IPconfig> hey trying to install ubuntu 8.10 desktop version but when it drops into the X window it  tried to bring up a screen but has a blank white screen in the middle and the brown graphics around has done it twice now i am not sure if its installing or not
[05:29] <ninom> ok, nathan, well i am on windows now i am going to download ubuntu 32 bit and delete my windows.
[05:29] <batcoder-7> nano does not even have undo
[05:29] <ninom> i appreciate your help
[05:29] <IPconfig> cant i have it not drop into x windows
[05:29] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> vlc streaming is good but sometimes can be a pain to set up
[05:29] <nathanhelp> :)
[05:29] <IPconfig> just want to install it without X or atleast use it without X
[05:29] <ninom> i will see you on here again, because i might need help again. you never know
[05:29] <ninom> have a nice night guys.
[05:30] <IPconfig> can i do anything at the beggining of the installation ?
[05:30] <mohadib> vince: lsof | grep /dev/snd
[05:30] <usser> IPconfig, get alternate cd it has a text installer
[05:31] <mohadib> maybe somehing is blocking it
[05:31] <mohadib> i dunno, grasping at straws :p
[05:31] <evilGUI> Hello I have 7150 go in my laptop and it's reaching 68C is this normal?
[05:31] <Depressed> I try to install ubuntu on my eeePC (booted through USB stick) but I can't find my hard disk, I can only see my usb memory stick when comes to partition part? HELP
[05:31] <koshar2> IPconfig or minimal imstal
[05:32] <IPconfig> usser not sure i understand what you mean
[05:32] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> evilGUI graphics cards can easily withstand up to around 100 C
[05:32] <IPconfig> koshar2 i cant chose a minimal install
[05:32] <vince> mohadib : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112654/
[05:32] <koshar2> IPconfig you need the minimal cd
[05:32] <IPconfig> i thought i could basically  just configure not to have X booted
[05:32] <usser> IPconfig, theres different installation cds, desktop uses Xorg to run installer, alternate cd's installer is console based
[05:32] <evilGUI> T1T4N1UM_M4N: I know but since this one is intergated
[05:32] <mohadib> vince: hmm, looks like mine, no idea mate, sorry
[05:32] <IPconfig> koshar2 i downloaded it .. so i download minimal install cd ? is what you saying
[05:32] <therealnanotube> plugged in the sony "eyetoy" webcam... but device manager is showing it as an audio device only, no video... any suggestions?
[05:32] <therealnanotube> !eyetoy
[05:32] <nathanhelp> automatic update is about to overwrite my smb.conf file. Should I continue in letting it do its job?
[05:33] <evilGUI> I have compiz disabled
[05:33] <vince> mohadib : Ok, Can you tell me how to downgrade to my previous kernel?
[05:33] <mohadib> vince: reboot, choose it via grub
[05:33] <mohadib> ensure everything works as expected
[05:33] <T1T4N1UM_M4N> 68 C should be alrite i guess
[05:33] <yuri_> hi, I would like to configure a proxy server at home so i can connect to it from work to bypass stupid filters. what is the easiest package that will let me do this?
[05:33] <vince> mohadib : It did not update my GRUB when it upgraded
[05:33] <mohadib> then set it as the default kernel in /boot/grub/menu.1st
[05:34] <mohadib> not the config?
[05:34] <Kevdog> yuri_: Do you just want a socks proxy or a VPN?
[05:34] <mohadib> didnt it add the new kernel?
[05:34] <mohadib> or was it just a "inplace" kernel update?
[05:34] <yuri_> Kevdog: i dont know the diff. i just want to bypass filters
[05:34] <thedark> hello everyone
[05:34] <Kevdog> yuri_: Want are you going to be doing?  Just to use the internet or more?
[05:34] <vince> mohadib : I -THINK- it was inplace.  All I know is it said it wanted to update the kernal and I said "Do It" My grub menu did not change afterward.
[05:34] <arvind_k> !hi | thedark
[05:35] <thedark> I upgraded to kubuntu 8.10 and now kubuntu won't boot :(
[05:35] <yuri_> Kevdog: http only
[05:35] <thedark> I asked in the kubuntu channel but nobody has answered
[05:35] <therealnanotube> yuri_: try squid. and make sure to set it up to go through https (ssl), so that the admins can't sniff your traffic
[05:35] <porter1> thedark, what happens specifically?
[05:35] <arvind_khadri> thedark, what error do you get?
[05:35] <mohadib> vince: hmm, no idea man
[05:35] <thedark> the mouse cursor shows up and works after the Kubuntu logo screen with the progress bar
[05:35] <Kevdog> yuri_: The easiest way is to set up a SOCKS5 proxy that tunnels over ssh.  Wormser has a post in the forums how to do this!
[05:35] <yuri_> therealnanotube: relatively easy to configure?
[05:35] <thedark> also, there is a background image
[05:35] <thedark> but that is it
[05:36] <thedark> no log in prompt
[05:36] <thedark> no desktop icons or start bar
[05:36] <therealnanotube> yuri_: there are tutorials out there. so... yes :)
[05:36] <porter1> Maybe try reinstalling kdm?
[05:36] <yuri_> therealnanotube: thanks ill research it
[05:36] <yuri_> Kevdog: thanks il look into squid
[05:36] <thedark> I tried doing dpkg in recovery mode
[05:36] <therealnanotube> yuri_: see what ubotu has to say about it
[05:36] <therealnanotube> !squid
[05:36] <mohadib> vince: you can reomplile the kernel :D
[05:36] <thedark> for some reason it says it cannopt connect to the archive
[05:37] <thedark> but I know my internet is fine, I am using Puppy Linux and talking to you online now!
[05:37] <Depressed> I try to install ubuntu on my eeePC (booted through USB stick) but I can't find my hard disk, I can only see my usb memory stick when comes to partition part? HELP
[05:37] <vince> mohadib : Way beyond my abilities.  I'm running 2.6.27-7-generic right now according to uname
[05:37] <mohadib> vince: how many kernels are in your grub config?
[05:37] <thedark> so what can I do?
[05:37] <Kevdog> How is squid going to help him tunnel from work to home?
[05:37] <therealnanotube> yuri_: hm, you can start with this one: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Seting-Up-a-HTTP-Proxy-Server-with-Authentication-and-Filtering-52467.shtml
[05:37] <quassel181> thedark: I answered you on #kubuntu
[05:37] <therealnanotube> yuri_: ssh proxy is also a nice way. probably "easier" overall to do, once you know how to.
[05:38] <yuri_> therealnanotube: will do
[05:38] <mohadib> vince: just the one you are running, and a safe mode option?
[05:38] <Kevdog> Wouldn't tunneling over ssh be easier than setting up squid -- which I could never figure out how to do exactly -- Meaning I got it to work, but tweaking it was a pain in the A$$
[05:38] <mohadib> or are there a few others
[05:38] <vince> mohadib : Yeap.  The upgrade commented out my old Kernal LOL
[05:38] <therealnanotube> yuri_: try this for setting up an ssh tunnel: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Seting-Up-a-HTTP-Proxy-Server-with-Authentication-and-Filtering-52467.shtml
[05:39] <vince> Thats why I don't see it
[05:39] <mohadib> :D
[05:39] <vince> Let me fix that boot in th eold one and see if that fixes it
[05:39] <vince> i'll BRB
[05:39] <mohadib> o/
[05:39] <dou213> therealnanotube, can u provide a link for ssh proxy too?
[05:40] <therealnanotube> dou213: that was it.
[05:40] <yuri_> therealnanotube: ssh tunnel is interesting... so i will be able to use putty+ firefox at work to make this work? i already use ssh
[05:40] <therealnanotube> dou213: ssh tunnel = ssh proxy, basically
[05:40] <therealnanotube> yuri_: right
[05:41] <yuri_> therealnanotube: interesting
[05:41] <therealnanotube> dou213: yuri_: sorry, pasted wrong link for ssh tunnel: http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/21/how-to-ssh-tunnels-for-secure-network-access/
[05:42] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: I checked out the squid link you suggested -- Very Nice -- Any way to tunnel that using https?
[05:44] <Kevdog> yuri_: Here is another link in addition : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=723025&highlight=ssh
[05:44] <vince> mohadib : Nope... Under the old one it's broken now too
[05:45] <vince> mohadib : Im going to launch firefox from console an see if I can see anything odd going on
[05:45] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: hmm.. honestly, i'm not sure ...
[05:45] <interuppt> can anyone help me with my ethernet? on the box, connecting a live rj45, the connection goes green. I think I see it as 802-3-ethernet **but** when I run ifconfig I see this eery message at the bottom of eth0 "Interrupt:251 Base address:0x4000" ... I cannot connect with my ethernet :/
[05:46] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Im sure it would require generation of certificates and such to make use of OpenSSL -- similar to setting up apache
[05:46] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: that's what i'm thinking too
[05:46] <mohadib> vince: good luck
[05:46] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: haven't done any of that myself though
[05:46] <interuppt> my wireless works but is so slow, its not funny. can anyone help me with my ethernet?
[05:47] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: If you follow a cookbook recipie -- its quite easy for Apache at least -- have no idea about squid!
[05:47] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: heh everything is easier when there's a recipe :)
[05:48]  * Kevdog needs recipe for life!
[05:48] <Baatti> I'm trying to use Compiz to configure my desktop settings to a Cube. I tried using the Synaptic to find Compiz, and found that there was a lot of compiz already installed. I reinstalled it all, but I still don't have the manager in System>Prefs
[05:49] <emsenn> sudo apt-get install ccsm
[05:49] <emsenn> @baatti
[05:49] <Baatti> thank you
[05:49] <yuri_> therealnanotube: i am using the command ssh -D 9999 user@ip to connect to myself for testing the ssh tunnel. i set firefox for locahost:9999 in the proxy but my pages end up blank.. any ideas?
[05:49] <interuppt> can someone please help? google is not working for me. my google-fu is beat. my ethernet refuses to work though I think ubuntu sees it :/
[05:49] <Baatti> emsenn: E: Couldn't find package ccsm
[05:49] <emsenn> oh
[05:49] <crdlb> Baatti: he meant compizconfig-settings-manager, but I would suggest simple-ccsm
[05:50] <crdlb> at least at first
[05:50] <emsenn> ahh simple-ccsm is what I meant
[05:50] <Kevdog> yuri_: Can you perform a basic connection through a shell first just to make sure you have an ssh connection?
[05:50] <yuri_> Kevdog: yes, i can. i use ssh fairly often
[05:50] <Baatti> heh, oh, thanks
[05:50] <Baatti> what's the diff between simple- and reg?
[05:51] <emsenn> simple has less options, but is easier to set up
[05:51] <emsenn> I'm building a custom liveusb, and am wondering if there is any way to force ubuntu, via boot parameters, to look in a nonstandard directory for /casper/filesystem.squashfs?
[05:51] <gaintsura> I've got a bash script that I want to run at boot time (just after interfaces are brought up), where can I place this script?
[05:52] <therealnanotube> yuri_: getting the same thing here... not sure if it will work with localhost like that...
[05:52] <yuri_> therealnanotube: thnk its b/c itsthe same computer? or should i do something like 127.0.0.1 instead?
[05:53] <interuppt> damn... anybody got a clue? I am clueless on what to do about the ethernet... clueless as what to do next :(
[05:53] <emsenn> if you want to test ssh on your own computer, use 127.0.0.1
[05:53]  * emsenn isn't sure if that's what you were asking about, but thought so
[05:54] <Kevdog> yuri_: Are you testing on the same computer?
[05:54] <yuri_> Kevdog: yes
[05:54] <Kevdog> yuri_: try 127.0.0.1
[05:54] <bullgard4> What are "stats" in Synaptic?: "This package contains the Wireless tools, used to manipulate the Linux Wireless Extensions. The Wireless Extension is an interface allowing you to set Wireless LAN specific parameters and get the specific stats."
[05:54] <yuri_> Kevdog: already have. same result
[05:55] <Kevdog> yuri_: I remember reading a problem with the loopback address somewhere!
[05:55] <yuri_> Kevdog: therealnanotube: ill try it from work tomorow. thanks for your help
[05:56] <Kevdog> yuri_: You got another computer on the local LAN to try it with?
[05:56] <AbsZero> I recently went to compile a file (for simplicity's sake: file.c). The command was a standard compile command (gcc file.c). The c file itself has no flaws (copied and pasted from a textbook as an example). It failed to compile because it could not find <stdio.h> and <stdlib.h>. I was under the impression that ubuntu had gcc included in it by default. So i ran the command "sudo apt-get install gcc", and it said I had the latest version of 
[05:58] <yuri_> Kevdog: i do but i need to get to sleep
[05:58] <Kevdog> AbsZero: What did you list as include statements?
[05:58] <yuri_> Kevdog: ill let you know how it goes
[05:58] <Kevdog> yuri_: If we ever meet again, let me know, I'm not around here on the irc too much!
[05:58] <jtaji> AbsZero: it's not installed by default... install build-essential will grab gcc and the c libraries
[05:58] <yuri_> Kevdog: me neither
[05:58] <alex_> so the way to install stuff in any linux, including ubuntu is to untar the tar.gz file, go to the bin directory and run sh on the install file?
[05:59] <yuri_> Kevdog: oh well, you never knoiw
[05:59] <Tokr> greetings to all, I've installed ubuntu for the first time and could use a little help.
[05:59] <Tokr> I've managed to create two installs on two partitions. now I want to remove one of them.
[05:59] <nelly> no.name_24@yahoo.com
[05:59] <Tokr> cfdisk should be able to do that for me but I don't know how to find out which partition the ubuntu server is actually running on.
[05:59] <jtaji> alex_: no normally you use the distro's package management
[05:59] <Kevdog> alex_: it depends.  The usual syntax is ./configure, make, sudo make install however this could be different depending on the package
[05:59] <Depressed> I messed around with my partition manager and I "unallocated" my data somehow. how do I bring it back ? I get error 22 in grub loader.
[06:01] <alex_> distro's package management for mysql is lacking
[06:01] <alex_> i need all the jar files
[06:01] <alex_> and everything else
[06:01] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Can someone tell the (2) two key combination to select all files in a list? In windows same idea would be " Ctrl + Shift " ?
[06:01] <Kevdog> alex_: What are you trying to install?  Have you used the apt-cache search command?
[06:02] <alex_> i'm trying to set up mysql-connector using jdbc
[06:02] <Kevdog> ctrl-A?
[06:02] <Lucifer_Cat> nite_johnboy: in windows it would be "Ctrl+A"
[06:02] <Finnish_> I have a file thats AMR-audio, how can I open that?
[06:02] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: yuri_: hm, just tried with some remote servers... and also just getting the blank page. so it's not the local loopback bit that's the problem...
[06:02] <nite_johnboy> Lucifer_Cat; Thank you .....
[06:03] <rakudave> Depressed: Not very likely, sorry... never mess with existing partitions ;)
[06:03] <vince> I've Removed Pulse Audio, I've switched back to the old Kernal, I've done EVERYTHING I can find on google and in the forums. Why won't this WORK!?!? *sob*
[06:03] <Depressed> rakudave: am I dead?
[06:03] <nite_johnboy> Lucifer_Cat; Yup - that definitely does - thanks again.....
[06:03] <Lucifer_Cat> Depressed: not yet
[06:04] <nite_johnboy> * does it
[06:04] <AbsZero> jtaji: Thanks for your response! I didn't know they weren't installed by default. Will a "sudo apt-get build-essential" or "sudo apt-get gcc-build-essential" do, perhaps?
[06:04] <Lucifer_Cat> youre welcome nite_johnboy
[06:04] <Brando753> hey is there a format comand like there is in windows?
[06:04] <fonzarelli> Brando753: look into mkfs
[06:04] <jtaji> AbsZero: apt-get install build-essential
[06:04] <rakudave> Depressed: you could try some forensic data recovery cd's, but I have no experience with that... use google ^^
[06:05] <AbsZero> Thanks jtaji!
[06:05] <Brando753> what do i type exactly into the terminal to reformatg my flash drive
[06:05] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: ?? Did you port forward 9999 or whatever port?
[06:05] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: could be that ubuntu's ssh is compiled without this? or something else is the problem?
[06:05] <bullgard4> What are "stats" in Synaptic?: "This package contains the Wireless tools, used to manipulate the Linux Wireless Extensions. The Wireless Extension is an interface allowing you to set Wireless LAN specific parameters and get the specific stats."
[06:06] <vince> DO you guys think It's worth it to reinstall Ubuntu from scratch?  I absolutely MUST have flash audio.
[06:06] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: well, i did "ssh -D 8080 servername", that created a connection from me to servername, and made localhost:8080 the proxy address. and it still returns just the blank page for whatever page i go to.
[06:06] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: I usually do this only with the dd-wrt router at home -- work tunnels to my home router -- and not to a computer behind the router --
[06:06] <Depressed> rakudave: you probably have an idea. I am trying to install ubuntu on my eeePC but it doesn't detect my hard disks?
[06:06] <Brando753> what do i type exactly into the terminal to reformatg my flash drive
[06:07] <rakudave> Tokr: try finding out by first placing some testfile in your root dir, and then go to /media/sdaX. If you find the file again in one of the folders, that's you root folder and you know which partition to delete. be carefull though
[06:07] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: i know i used to do this before, back on dapper or something, and it worked exactly like this. something must have changed...
[06:07] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Socks5 proxy checked?
[06:07] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: yes
[06:07] <rakudave> Depressed: A flash-drive, i presume?
[06:07] <AbsZero> Kevdog: If you're having some issues ussing the ssh commands, you could always try downloading "putty". It's a GUI based ssh client that takes care of all the icky stuff for you.
[06:07] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Check the sshd_conf file!
[06:07] <Depressed> rakudave the installation is from a flash drive, want to install on my hhdd
[06:08] <Brando753> how do i do a flash drive reformat
[06:08] <rakudave> Depressed: Try using easy-peasy (awful name, i know). It's Ubuntu for Eee's: http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[06:09] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: well, i'm checking the ssh_config file (not sshd, since setting up the tunnel from my end involves only ssh, not sshd)
[06:09] <koshar2> Brando753 same as a hard disk
[06:09] <rakudave> Brando753: It should show up in the partition manager. If you don't have one, "sudo apt-get install gparted"
[06:10] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Let me see what the stock sshd_conf file has!  I need to install this on my ubuntu install (again I usually just use dd-wrt) so give me a second
[06:10] <koshar2> Brando753 and what you type is relevent to what the device is
[06:11] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Installing openssh-server
[06:12] <Tokr> rakudave: that didn't work, but I looked in ..grub/menu.lst and found hda0,4. That could indicate the partition right?
[06:12] <Brando753> gparted wont let me reformat
[06:13] <Depressed> rakudave: do you know a good utility to make a USB bootable
[06:13] <fr500> hey
[06:13] <fr500> anyone got an atom board here?
[06:13] <rakudave> Tokr: yes, hd0,4 means first hd, _fifth_ partition (counting starts at 0)
[06:14] <Brando753> Depredded use unetbootin but use an old one
[06:14] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: let me know what you see :)
[06:14] <rakudave> Depressed: There is one installed by default, the "usb-creator"
[06:14] <Brando753> ill send you the .deb
[06:15] <Depressed> yes but when I download the .iso I want to install through my USB, I haeve to make it bootable no?
[06:15] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: i looked at mine, didn't see anything useful...
[06:15] <Brando753> that will make a bootable usb drive form any .iso
[06:15] <Depressed> what is this deb about? my DCC is broken
[06:16] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Havent found anything yet -- got ssh setup, know I guess I will try to do a loopback to my own machine
[06:16] <Brando753> hey how do i reformat my flash drive
[06:19] <Brando753> hey how do i reformat my flash drive i cant seem to do it ;(
[06:19] <Rave1_> Brando753, did you install gparted
[06:19] <Brando753> yes
[06:19] <rakudave> Brando753: still with gparted. there is a dropdown in the top-right corner to switch from your hd to the flash
[06:19] <Brando753> i did
[06:20] <scientes> i get a  input output error when trying to format a dvd-rw to do packet writing
[06:20] <bullgard4> What are "stats" in Synaptic?: "This package contains the Wireless tools, used to manipulate the Linux Wireless Extensions. The Wireless Extension is an interface allowing you to set Wireless LAN specific parameters and get the specific stats."
[06:20] <therealnanotube> Brando753: or try mkfs from cli
[06:20] <Rave1_> Brando753,  then clik on device
[06:20] <therealnanotube> !mkfs
[06:20] <rakudave> then you right-click on the partition on the flash and delete it. the you can create a new one by clicking on "new"
[06:21] <Brando753> delete option is gray
[06:21] <Brando753> cant click
[06:21] <rakudave> unmount if first then
[06:21] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: Well I ssh'd  into my own machine with dynamic port 9999 and then set firefox to use SOCKS proxy over 9999 -- everything worked -- I then closed the ssh connection -- proxy failed -- then restarted ssh connection -- everything worked again!
[06:22] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: what exactly was your commandline, and what exactly did you set in firefox?
[06:22] <Rave1_>  Brando753    click on device on top bar then create partion table
[06:23] <Brando753> thx i just had to unmount it :d
[06:24] <Brando753> see ya
[06:24] <Kevdog> ssh -D 9999 -C localhost  (typed at the command line)  Within Firefox - Manual Proxy Configuration - SOCKS Host - 127.0.0.1 Port 9999
[06:24] <AbsZero> On a note completely unrelated to my previous query: Does anybody know if it is possible, without zipping it into an archive and password protecting the archive, to place password protection of sorts onto a specific folder/directory?
[06:26] <Kevdog> AbsZero: you could use truecrypt to do this, but beginning with intrepid there is some built in encryption protocol -- but I can't say I know how to do this - its some directory encryption option
[06:26] <therealnanotube> hm, never mind... my problem was that i set firefox to use localhost for "all proxy types", not just socks. so apparently firefox "prefers" other types before trying socks, so that's why it failed. duh.
[06:26] <outbri>  AbsZero: In Nautilus, right click on the folder. Click encrypt.
[06:27] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: So it worked from a remote machine however? and not just localhost?
[06:27] <Depressed> help. does anyone know a good Windows utility to make a USB bootable I want to install Ubuntu from a USB
[06:27] <edward> Hai guys, im installing i got a linksys wmp300n and when i do 'ndiswrapper -l' it says that 'bcmwl5 : driver installed'....BUT when i go to 'System>Admin>Wireless Network Drivers it says that bcmwl5 Hardware present: NO . also whenever i start up my computer i have to input the following command to 'initialize the adapter' I have ubuntu8.10 intrepid..any suggestions? I feel like that the adapter not initalizing has something to do with 'Wi
[06:27] <edward> reless Network Drivers' not recognizing the hardware..any suggestions?
[06:27] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: yes, remote machine. i didn't even try localhost-to-localhost
[06:27] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: you want me to try that too?
[06:28] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: No - forget the localhost to localhost -- I did that.
[06:28] <Kevdog> edward: is that a usb device?
[06:28] <edward> not pci
[06:28] <edward> i had an old usb adapter
[06:28] <Kevdog> edward: so its usb?
[06:29] <Kevdog> edward: or pci?
[06:29] <edward> thats taking up the wlan0 slot..and the forcing my pci adapter to comp up as eth2
[06:29] <edward> its pci
[06:29] <Kevdog> edward: good, can you post lspci -nnm
[06:29] <rakudave> AbsZero: that's what's what folder permissions are for. you can take the read-permissions from the others and they won't be able to open the file. If you prefer stronger security, use truecrypt
[06:29] <edward> ok
[06:29] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: ok, well... problem solved. thanks for helping out. :) not that i needed an ssh tunnel... i was just curious. :)
[06:30] <edward> Kevdog, http://paste.ubuntu.com/112661/
[06:30] <Kevdog> therealnanotube: I don't tunnel often -- but its quick and easy.  A lot easier than OpenVPN, however not as powerful since every application can be tunneled over the VPN
[06:30] <AbsZero> I'm the only user on my computer, but if I wanted to make it so that I would need to know the password for a file to open it (so that someone who plops down on my computer won't randomly open it).
[06:31] <edward> its saying BCM43XG i thought i blacklisted it
[06:31] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: indeed. :)
[06:31] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: chown the file to root, that's the simplest way
[06:32] <rakudave> AbsZero: ok then, you need to create a truecrypt archive. get truecrypt at www.truecrypt.org
[06:32] <Kevdog> edward: is this a wireless card?
[06:32] <edward> yes kev dog
[06:32] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: or you could encrypt it... but that's going beyond just requiring a password from a random user who plops down at your computer. :)
[06:32] <edward> and it comes up as eth2
[06:32] <alex_> ugh
[06:32] <edward> heres my modprobe.d/blacklist : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112662/
[06:32] <alex_> ubuntu mysql is blocking my binary install
[06:33] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: and of course if you go with chown, don't forget to chmod it to go-rwx
[06:33] <alex_> i need to access the mysql connector files
[06:33] <alex_> where does Ubuntu store them?
[06:33] <alex_> where does ubuntu put the Ubuntu mysql install?
[06:33] <eMaX> moin
[06:33] <AbsZero> I suppose a random user wouldn't know enough to use the chown command to change it back to me as a user...and even if they did, they don't know my sudo password.
[06:34] <Kevdog> edward: Why not use the bcm43xx drivers?
[06:34] <dou213> how can i check what rights are on a specific folder? lsattr is only for files
[06:34] <AbsZero> chmod go-rwx changes the permissions to what, all? Read, write, execute...And is that all?
[06:34] <rakudave> AbsZero: that's a possibility, but as soon as someone walks by with a live-cd, you're dead.
[06:35] <AbsZero> rakudave: Probably not going to happen. I just don't want my room-mates being able to see and read password sets for various email accounts and websites, or other personal information.
[06:35] <alex_> so, how does Ubuntu handle mysql
[06:35] <alex_> it seems i can't find any configuration files related to it
[06:35] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: that changes permissions so only root can access it. thus, you need root password to access it.
[06:35] <dou213> AbsZero, chmod go-rwx takes all rights from group and others
[06:36] <AbsZero> And I can change that at will as long as I know my own password...?
[06:36] <Quintok> Is there a way to uninstall every package except the packages that are installed on a fresh ubuntu install?  I was trying to use the ubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-standard meta-packages but they don't include everything (ie firefox) that was installed by default.  Is there a meta-package I'm missing?
[06:36] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: but as rakudave says, that's fairly trivial to circumvent, if the attacker has physical access to the machine. the only "sure" way is encryption.
[06:36] <edward> cuz i was getting the same issue with not automatically turning on wireless networking and detecting networks i have to run this command upon start: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112663/    in order to get internet
[06:37] <edward> and it has to be pasted like that
[06:37] <dou213> how can i check what rights are on a specific folder? lsattr is only for files
[06:37] <edward> and done twice
[06:37] <temppy> Quintok: well, I don't know about uninstallation, but I can give you a command to install some of those defaults
[06:37] <edward> or the adapter just wont start
[06:37] <therealnanotube> AbsZero: for something as important as your passwords, i'd suggest encryption. you could do truecrypt, or use a specially-for-passwords program to store them (i use 'revelation' to store all my passwords - it encrypts them and has a nice interface for storing user account info)
[06:38] <Kevdog> edward: Oh -- well in that case you are telling me you are using the wl driver -- and everything works after typing those commands?
[06:38] <Quintok> temppy: thanks, I can probably work it out from there using synaptic
[06:38] <alex_> sudo apt-get removing mysql-server removes nothing.
[06:38] <edward> yea it works
[06:38] <alex_> but when i type mysql, a ubuntu mysql thing pops up
[06:38] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[06:38] <edward> after i type that in
[06:38] <alex_> what is wrong with this stupid operating system
[06:38] <Kevdog> AbsZero: Go for truecrypt
[06:38] <edward> and only then does it work
[06:38] <temppy> Quintok: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^
[06:38] <dou213> therealnanotube, can i get revelation on my ubuntu-server box?
[06:39] <AbsZero> I'll have a look-see at TrueCrypt I guess.
[06:39] <dou213> alex_, sudo apt-get remove...
[06:39] <alex_> i just did that
[06:39] <therealnanotube> dou213: you mean no gui, console-only?
[06:39] <edward> im so frustrated Kevdog :(
[06:39] <alex_> and it removes 0 package 0 update yada yada
[06:39] <dou213> therealnanotube, y
[06:39] <Kevdog> edward: I take it that you can't just type sudo modprobe wl to make everything work correct?
[06:39] <alex_> and i type mysql and it's still around
[06:39] <alex_> why does ubuntu FORCE it's own mysql on me?
[06:39] <edward> no
[06:39] <edward> the last line
[06:39] <therealnanotube> dou213: in that case, no... it's a gnome-gui prog
[06:39] <edward> starts the scan
[06:39] <edward> for ssid's
[06:40] <therealnanotube> dou213: i guess your best bet for cli is truecrypt, afaik it works fine in cli mode
[06:40] <edward> i dont mind typing it..things would just be smoother than having to type my pw everyboot up
[06:40] <dou213> alex_, try sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql-server
[06:40] <dou213> but caution: it will del all config files regarding mysql
[06:40] <alex_> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[06:41] <dou213> therealnanotube, afaik?
[06:41] <dou213> !afaik
[06:41] <Kevdog> edward: Hold on -- don't despair -- you just need to tell me what exactly you can't do -- there is a fix!
[06:41] <Quintok> alex_ perhaps remove mysql-server-5.0 ?
[06:41] <dou213> alex_, try to stop the service first maybe... see if that's running
[06:41] <edward> see one the connection manager has wired netowork then wireless network underneath
[06:42] <edward> unless i run that command 'wireless networks' doesnt come up
[06:42] <Quintok> temppy: thank you
[06:42] <Kevdog> edward: Speak in english -- what do you want to do -- and what isn't working -- dont cry
[06:43] <therealnanotube> dou213: afaik = as far as i know :)
[06:43] <temppy> np
[06:43] <dou213> therealnanotube, lol :)
[06:43] <edward> i want to get my networkadapter working properly! everytime i boot up i have to type in those commands for it to work
[06:43] <alex_> I don't see any process that looks remotely like Mysql
[06:43] <alex_> in the System Moniter
[06:43] <therealnanotube> dou213: hehe :)
[06:43] <edward> i dont wanna have to go through those cmds everytime i want internets!
[06:43] <Name141> is it possible to get a shipit disk of 8.04.2 ?
[06:43] <Kevdog> edward: Ok, what if you just type in sudo modprobe wl instead of all those commands -- does it work?
[06:44] <Name141> Or do I just upgrade 8.04 LTS
[06:44] <edward> im going to reboot
[06:44] <edward> and test it, i dont think so
[06:44] <Quintok> alex_, it won't be in the system monitor unless you go to view-> all processes
[06:44] <Kevdog> edward: This isn't windows -- you don't need to do that!!!
[06:44] <kj4> hello buntus
[06:44] <dou213> can somebody tell me how to check for directory attributes?
[06:45] <Kevdog> I prefer bunts
[06:45] <Kevdog> ls -la
[06:45] <edward> Kevdog i know but thats the only way to see if the adapter is going to initialize itself!
[06:45] <dou213> nevermind, ls -la
[06:45] <dou213> oh thx :)
[06:45] <alex_> all the mysql stuff is sleeping
[06:46] <Quintok> alex_, did you try remove mysql-server-5.0 as well as mysql-server via apt?
[06:46] <edward> cuz thats my problem, it wont initialize itself upon startup
[06:46] <Kevdog> edward: What does lshw -C network show when you first boot up?
[06:47] <edward> 2 minutes
[06:47] <edward> going to boot up
[06:47] <edward> and tell u
[06:47] <Kevdog> edward: NO --- what does it show now!
[06:47] <edward> ooh ok
[06:48] <Kevdog> edward: quit rebooting -- this isnt windows!
[06:48] <Kevdog> edward: Don't ever reboot! ---
[06:48] <therealnanotube> Kevdog: lol
[06:48] <alex_> ending the processes in the system monitor just crashes system monitor
[06:48] <Name141> "Ubuntu is available free of charge and we can send you a CD of the latest version (8.10 (Intrepid Ibex))"
[06:48] <Name141> Bah
[06:48] <alex_> is there ANYTHING in ubuntu that works :/
[06:48] <edward> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112667/    Kevdog
[06:48] <Kevdog> edward: Don't ever reboot! --- Ok may that is extreme!
[06:48] <Name141> Not possible to get 8.04.2 ?
[06:49] <Kevdog> lshw -C network
[06:49] <Depressed> rakudave
[06:49] <Name141> if I download 8.04.2 , will I be able to burn to DVD?
[06:49] <Name141> I have no CD-Rs
[06:49] <Quintok> alex_, did you try remove mysql-server-5.0 as well as mysql-server via apt?
[06:49] <alex_> yes it fails
[06:49] <Kevdog> edward: lshw -C network
[06:49] <alex_> having trouble shutting down mysql
[06:49] <gaara> i wanna use gtalk in linux for voip
[06:49] <alex_> and i try to shut down from system monitor and all it does is CRASH
[06:49] <usser> Name141, nope, but do you have a usb stick?
[06:49] <gaara> does ANYONE know how to do that?
[06:49] <edward> Kevdog http://paste.ubuntu.com/112669/
[06:49] <Name141> usser: no
[06:50] <usser> Name141, ah, well theres ubuntu dvd images
[06:50] <krz22> hi! how can I restrict a repository to get only one specific package from that repository while doing apt-get upgrade ?
[06:50] <Name141> usser: isn't there a DVD version somewhere?
[06:50] <usser> Name141, you can burn that
[06:50] <Name141> copy
[06:50] <Quintok> alex_, did someone else mention trying sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop ?
[06:50] <Name141> usser: Where do I find that
[06:50] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[06:51] <Kevdog> edward: This is very important -- Look at what you pasted -- and look for the section that states driver=wl  -- that is the driver you are currently using.  I have a feeling on boot it is probably something else, such as b43
[06:51] <therealnanotube> krz22: easiest way, if you are targeting only one package, is not to do an apt-get upgrade. :)
[06:51] <therealnanotube> krz22: just do an apt-get install for that particular package.
[06:51] <usser> Name141, http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[06:51] <alex_> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[06:51] <krz22> therealnanotube: thx, will try that
[06:51] <Kevdog> edward: Reboot now -- and then take a look at what it states is the driver!
[06:52] <edward> before i type cmd correct?
[06:52] <suigeneris> hello
[06:52] <Kevdog> edward: yes, I just need to know the driver its being assigned on boot before you mess with it!
[06:52] <edward> ok
[06:53] <edward> brb
[06:53] <krz22> therealnanotube: thx again, it works! though, I'm still puzzled why I have to install when I want to upgrade :)
[06:53] <suigeneris> how can i create a user *without* home directory, aside from editing adduser.conf?
[06:53] <therealnanotube> krz22: well, you are installing the latest version of the package... :)
[06:53] <Name141> usser: The latest DVD version seems to be 8.04.1
[06:53] <therealnanotube> krz22: glad it worked out for you :)
[06:54] <dblitz> hello everyone .. I am having a problem installing pidgin on my system. I did an upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10 and since I did that something happened to pidgin
[06:54] <alex_> ugh is there anything that is useful for developers in ubuntu?
[06:54] <alex_> i've been trying and trying
[06:54] <dblitz> It tells me that I can't install pidgin because of it won't install libpurple0
[06:54] <alex_> and ubuntu just sucks
[06:54] <jedi007> in my themes it says this theme will not look as intended becuase the required GTK + theme engine 'ubunutulooks' is not installed
[06:54] <usser> Name141, no theres intrepid are u in the US?
[06:54] <dblitz> does anyone know how to get around this ?
[06:54] <sockets> alex_ what do you mean by useful?
[06:54] <Name141> usser: I also don't have the bandwith to download 3.9 GBs
[06:54] <alex_> like.. i want to install my own mysql from binary
[06:54] <Name141> usser: is it not possible to turn the CD version in to a DVD
[06:54] <alex_> and get rid of the crap that comes with ubuntu
[06:55] <alex_> their own mysql crap
[06:55] <usser> Name141, you can try, although i'
[06:56] <usser> Name141, i've never done it
[06:56] <Kevdog> dblitz: The only way I know how is possibly to uninstall pidgin and then reinstall? or compile from source!
[06:56] <krz22> suigeneris: use adduser with --no-create-home
[06:56] <usser> Name141, you can try mounting the iso somewhere and making a dvd/udf image
[06:56] <dblitz> O
[06:56] <sockets> alex_ what's wrong with it? maybe the learning curve (which isn't steep at all) is bothering you. you can make most *nix stuff compatible with ubuntu (since it's a *nix system itself)
[06:57] <Kevdog> dblitz: Upgrades do funny things sometimes like this :)
[06:57] <dblitz> cause I think that since I did the update it did something with pidgin cause I installed ubuntu fresh on my other system and pidgin works fine
[06:57] <dblitz> Yeah I figured
[06:57] <usser> Name141, use mkisofs -udf image.iso /path/to/mounted/cdrom
[06:57] <Name141> usser: my computers are all windows right now
[06:57] <usser> Name141, arggh
[06:57] <usser> hehe
[06:57] <dblitz> I may just clean up this system and do a fresh install
[06:57] <alex_> the way you get rid of packages is retarded
[06:57] <Name141> and 8.10 I don't like
[06:57] <wolter> If i wanted to install blender from the repos to have it all detected on my computer, but at the same time have the latest version of it, could i just replace all the contents with those that you can download from the site?
[06:57] <dblitz> Cause I don't like having my system work like this...
[06:58] <sockets> dblitz
[06:58] <sockets> what's wrong with it?
[06:58] <Kevdog> dblitz: Do whatever you want, if you need to compile from source -- I have an easy guide to do this!
[06:58] <sockets> dblitz : www.getdeb.net - has pidgin 2.5.4 in *.deb format
[06:59] <edward> Kevdog: heres the what u asked for +startup http://paste.ubuntu.com/112673/
[06:59]  * Kevdog shudders at the old getdeb solution -- but that is just me!
[06:59] <jedi007> in my themes it says this theme will not look as intended becuase the required GTK + theme engine 'ubunutulooks' is not installed
[06:59] <usser> Name141, i don't know how to do this on windows
[06:59] <jedi007> did someone see what i said
[06:59] <jedi007> how do i install theme engine ubuntulooks
[07:00] <Kevdog> edward: so it is trying to load the b43 on startup -- that is a competing driver.  Here is what I want you to try:
[07:00] <edward> ah
[07:00] <datakid> hi, is the bash command "ls -d" meant to "just list the directories" ? I am getting an empty result in a folder that has almost a dozen...
[07:00] <Kevdog> edward: echo 'blacklist b43' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:00] <edward> i believe the one im trying to install is the optimal one for my adapter tho LInksys WMP300N, read it on the forums
[07:01] <sockets> dblitz, in synaptic manager, if you change "settings/repositories" goto "updates" tab, and choose "unsupported updates" it will automatically show pidgin updates available up until 2.5.2
[07:01] <sockets> and you can easily update too
[07:01] <Kevdog> edward: And is wl isn't in the /etc/modules, echo wl | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:01] <nomingoo> hi all, new to linux. installed it on my flash drive and works fine. then after a while, it no longer wants to store any more data. won't log chats, won't buffer videos from the net or save history, anyone seen this before?
[07:02] <edward> ok
[07:03] <edward> should i try rebooting now?
[07:04] <Kevdog> edward: sure go ahead -- and if it doesnt work I got one more solution
[07:04] <edward> alrighty, ty really appreciate the help
[07:04] <edward> brb
[07:04] <goodmami> how do i manually turn on my lcd backlight?
[07:05] <goodmami> it seem intrepid turned it off when i setup an external monitor
[07:05] <jedi007> when you install a them where does it go?
[07:05] <jedi007> theme*
[07:05] <sockets> you guys that setup a network printer, how exactly does that work? if i have 3 computers can i just print from any one of them or does a "host" pc have to be connected to the printer and TURNED ON?
[07:05] <goodmami> (note: it's a laptop lcd that has lost it's backlight)
[07:06] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[07:06] <Basket1234> Does anyone know an issue with amd 64 bit processors and ubuntu freezing?  I am not able to get to the login screen and it freezes at multiple spots
[07:06] <mavsman4457> How do I update gnome-do to the latest version?
[07:06] <Basket1234> I also have tried all kinds of ubuntu versions
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> sockets: Depends on your setup.  Some printers have the networking built in.  If not, then you need some kind of print server to be connected and turned on, which can either be a PC or a specialized embedded device.
[07:07] <goodmami> cat /proc/acpi/video/VID/LCD0/brightness says it's at 100 brightness, which is wrong
[07:07] <mavsman4457> i don't think ubuntu supports it yet so i can't update through the software updater
[07:07] <nomingoo> sock, network printers can use a server/host comp, but don't need it. just have it turned on and know its ip address
[07:07] <bullgard4> mavsman4457: Use Synaptic.
[07:07] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, use the gnome-do PPA on launchpad.net
[07:08] <nomingoo> lol has anyone dealt with flashdrive ubuntu before? need some help
[07:08] <rdw200169> bullgard4, mavsman4457, you want .8 right?  i was talking to someone earlier that said the ubuntu repo's only had .6 for intrepid
[07:08] <nomingoo> can't save any more files inside linux but the drive isn't full itself!
[07:08] <rdw200169> !info gnome-do
[07:08] <sockets> thanks nomingoo & tonyarusso
[07:09] <goodmami> can anybody help, please? laptop lcd backlight is off... i don't know how to turn it on
[07:09] <edward> Kevdog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112676/
[07:09] <nomingoo> np, now if only someone helped me lol
[07:09] <mavsman4457> rdw200169 ya i want .8
[07:09] <edward> didnt work
[07:09] <mavsman4457> will that do the trick to do what you said?
[07:09] <Basket1234> Is there a way to find out what is causing the freezing?
[07:10] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, yes, lemme get you a link right quick
[07:10] <Kevdog_> edward: Is wl mentioned in /etc/modules?
[07:11] <edward> how do i check that again, sorry
[07:11] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, https://launchpad.net/~do-core/+archive/ppa
[07:12] <jedi007> HELLO it my theme says it won't look right becuase gtk engine ubuntulooks isn't installed where do i get that how do i know its the right one?
[07:12] <Kevdog_> edward: cat /etc/modules | more  (Use space bar to get to next page)
[07:12] <bnagy> hey, dumb-sounding question - apt-get installed irssi but it doesn't show up as a command, nor is it in /usr/bin or /usr/local/bin
[07:13] <jedi007> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Slickness+Black?content=73210  it is this theme
[07:13] <edward> no wl isnt mentioned
[07:13] <Kevdog_> bnagy: sudo update db; locate irssi
[07:13] <bnagy> k 2 secs
[07:13] <sockets> nomingoo, you said that you installed ubuntu on a flash driver and it won't read/write to it anymore right?.. can you boot into it?
[07:13] <Kevdog_> edward: do the following: echo wl | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[07:13] <nomingoo> im in it right now lol
[07:13] <sockets> drive*
[07:14] <rww> bnagy: irssi should install to /usr/bin/ =/
[07:14] <bnagy> update command not found - but I did find / -name irssi already
[07:14] <edward> done
[07:14] <Kevdog_> edward: Is blacklist b43 mentioned in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[07:14] <nomingoo> i didn't say read/write, it won't save things like chat logs, firefox history(greys out back button), flash videos or install new programs
[07:15] <bnagy> rww: yeah, that's what I thought. :( man pages are there and apt thinks it is installed
[07:15] <Kevdog_> sorry sudo updatedb
[07:15] <rww> bnagy: That's odd. What version of Ubuntu are you using?
[07:15] <edward> yes kevdog
[07:15] <bnagy> 8.1 but netbook remix thingy
[07:16] <sockets> nomingoo is it through live cd?
[07:16] <edward> its there, i put it there myself Kevdog
[07:17] <mavsman4457> rdw200169 should i add those sources as two different lines?
[07:17] <nomingoo> i think its a modified version of the live cd, like something about a persistent connection to the drive
[07:17] <ph0t0nix> Hi all, I'm running 8.10 here and I wanted to change the ownership of a file in ~/public_html to www-data (since it contains MySQL login credentials), but chgrp/chown tells me that the operation is not permitted. Why?
[07:17] <bullgard4> How can I find cuesheet files on my Ubuntu 8.04.2 computer?
[07:17] <edward> reboot?
[07:18] <rdw200169> mavsman4457, you don't have to, you only need the deb line, not the deb-src line; the second gives you the option to download the source code.
[07:18] <Kevdog_> edward: Here is what I want you to cut and paste to command line: echo -e '#wl/ssb/b43 workaround, added' `date` '\ninstall wl modprobe -r b43 b44 b43legacy ssb; modprobe --ignore-install wl $CMDLINE_OPTS; modprobe ssb; modprobe b44;' | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/wl
[07:18] <bnagy> Kevdog_: yeah millions of entries but none in anything that looks like bin
[07:18] <bnagy> there is usr/share/menu/irssi
[07:18] <sockets> nomingoo did it work before? or did it just stop randomly? i'm looking up stuff and ubuntu via USB Flash Drive has this warning : "This method is non-persistant so it won't save any changes you make while running Ubuntu in the LiveCD mode"
[07:18] <edward> done
[07:19] <ph0t0nix> bullgard4: use the find of locate command.
[07:19] <bnagy> but that's just a menu entry looks like
[07:19] <rdw200169> bullgard4, you mean .cue files?
[07:19] <rdw200169> ph0t0nix, bullgard4 i agree w/ him, the locate command can do it
[07:19] <Kevdog_> can you paste contents of /etc/modprobe.d/wl?
[07:19] <rww> ph0t0nix: chgrp and chown generally need to be run with administrative privileges. Try sudo chown.
[07:20] <bnagy> bizarre everything says it should be in usr/bin but it aint there....
[07:20] <rww> bnagy: sudo apt-get purge irssi && sudo apt-get install irssi
[07:20] <rww> bnagy: that'll reinstall it; might help
[07:20] <Kevdog_> rww: Ill +1 that!
[07:20] <edward> using, cat right Kevdog?
[07:20] <ari_stress> wb bazhang
[07:20] <bnagy> I tried reinstalling it already ... but not with purge, good idea...
[07:20] <snow_ru> peridot, hello
[07:20] <ph0t0nix> rww: I could do that on my local machine, but how could I secure the files when putting them on a remote server I don't have the root pw of?
[07:20] <Kevdog_> edward: sure
[07:20]  * snow_ru slaps peridot 
[07:20] <bullgard4> ph0t0nix, rdw200169: Do all cuesheets have the '.cue' extension?
[07:20] <edward> edward@eddieP:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/wl
[07:20] <edward> #wl/ssb/b43 workaround, added Mon Feb 2 02:18:51 EST 2009
[07:20] <edward> install wl modprobe -r b43 b44 b43legacy ssb; modprobe --ignore-install wl $CMDLINE_OPTS; modprobe ssb; modprobe b44;
[07:21]  * snow_ru slaps peridot on his face 
[07:21] <rww> ph0t0nix: If you don't have administrative access, you can't change the user/group of a file, afaik.
[07:21] <ph0t0nix> bullgard4: That depends on how they were created, I'd say. But probably yes
[07:21] <rdw200169> bullgard4, i don't know, heck, i don't even know what exactly a cuesheet is!  i was guessing...
[07:21] <nomingoo> yeah it worked before, watched several episodes of my show. then it stopped, i've tried rebooting. and my mode does save changes btw...
[07:21] <rww> ph0t0nix: I could be wrong about that, though.
[07:21] <bnagy>  rww: newp, still no luck
[07:21] <Kevdog_> edward: reboot -- Ill be shocked if this doesn't work!
[07:21] <edward> haha, ok Kevdog
[07:22] <bullgard4> ph0t0nix, rdw200169: Thank you very much for your help.
[07:22] <rww> bnagy: copy the output of "apt-cache policy irssi" to http://paste.ubuntu.com/, then put a link to the created page here.
[07:22] <ph0t0nix> bullgard4: You're welcome
[07:22] <TheOrz> VLC is SO SLOW OMG it's hell to use
[07:22] <TheOrz> What is with the unresponsive VLC GUI?
[07:22] <nomingoo> awww, bye kevdog
[07:23] <bnagy> rww it's only two lines....
[07:23] <Kevdog_> bye
[07:23] <nomingoo> oh, it said u quit lol
[07:23] <nomingoo> someone took ur name lol, ohhh, no underscore :P
[07:23] <rww> bnagy: oh. Just paste it here then (I'm not on Ubuntu right now; forgot how long/short it was)
[07:23] <sockets> nomingoo - you're using intrepid (8.10) right?
[07:23] <bnagy>         500 http://debian.nctu.edu.tw intrepid/main Packages
[07:23] <bnagy>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:23] <nomingoo> i think so, dunno how to check
[07:24] <sockets> system / about ubuntu
[07:24] <edward> Kevdog
[07:24] <edward> YOU ARE THE MAN!
[07:24] <sockets> should say something like "take you for your interest in ubuntu #.##"
[07:24] <itai> hi, i have a USB stick that can't seem to use , ubuntu says permissions cannot be determined, i pasted the fdisk -l here :http://paste.ubuntu.com/112680/
[07:24] <bnagy> installed and candidate 0.8.12-4ubuntu2
[07:25] <edward> Kevdog, seriously appreciate it thank you
[07:25] <nomingoo> oh, i think technically i have xubuntu, kev, so i don't have that option...
[07:25] <arvind_khadri> itai, try plugging it into some other port
[07:25] <khmer42> What's the easiest way to allow for Windows style roaming profiles and active directory in a linux network?
[07:25] <ph0t0nix> rww: I guess you're right. I tried it on a Debian machine and no luck there either.
[07:25] <nomingoo> i mean sockets, read it wrong
[07:26] <rdw200169> khmer42, you mean like a Single Sign-On type thing?
[07:26] <nomingoo> ugh, brain is as screwy as my flashdrive tonite lol
[07:26] <KevDog> edward: See I said I would be shock if it didn't work -- so I'm not shocked right now :)
[07:26] <edward> haha thanks!
[07:26] <rww> !samba | khmer42
[07:26] <edward> u really helped me out
[07:26] <nomingoo> good work kevdog
[07:26] <KevDog> later - I'm out -- happy trials to everyone!
[07:26] <rww> bnagy: hrm. that looks fine too.
[07:27]  * KevDog says GOODNIGHT!
[07:27] <nomingoo> no guesses at my prob kev?
[07:27] <bnagy> rww: it didn't seem to delete the package when I purged... maybe I can try that and/por use a different repo?
[07:27] <itai> arvind_khadri, nope,,, gaprted  doesn't let me do anything with it, not even format
[07:27] <bnagy> I never used debian before today, so I am clueless about apt
[07:27] <rww> bnagy: yeah, I guess
[07:27] <nomingoo> dang lol
[07:27] <arvind_khadri> itai, did you try a different port?
[07:27] <bnagy> debian ubuntu whatever
[07:27] <itai> arvind_khadri, yes
[07:28] <nomingoo> oh well, guess im just gonna have to do this the old fashion way and install to my hard drive...
[07:28] <edward> alright question, im switching from xp/vista machines and noticed that when i download movies the picture it awful
[07:28] <edward> sup w/ that
[07:28] <arvind_khadri> itai, ok... so cant you format it using the CLI?
[07:28] <khmer42> rdw200169: Yes, and also a home folder which is located on the server.
[07:28] <jedi007> ok i'm getting this theme will not look as intended becuase the required GTK+ theme engine " is not installed
[07:28] <itai> arvind_khadri, how?
[07:29] <arvind_khadri> itai, jus a second
[07:29] <jedi007> what engine is "
[07:29] <rdw200169> khmer42, ah, you want to google on some pretty obfuscated stuff; it *is* possible though, in several different ways
[07:29] <sockets> nomingoo no luck finding someone with your problem =/, if you plan on trying again i guess check out these guides : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent  &  http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-810-persistent-flash-drive-install-from-live-cd/
[07:29] <tv7497> bazhang: hello sir
[07:30] <arvind_khadri> itai, for formatting in gparted, the disk/stick needs to be unmounted, just in case if you didnt know
[07:30] <rdw200169> khmer42, OpenLDAP = Active Directory; Kerebos provides 'SSO', NFS provides Remote home folders
[07:30] <rdw200169> khmer42, these suggestions are by far the most used, but they are not the only possible means
[07:30] <itai> arvind_khadri, didn't know...let me try
[07:31] <arvind_khadri> itai, that will work :)
[07:31] <bullgard4> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode: "This mode just loads some basic services." What services does it load and what services does it not load?
[07:32] <khmer42> rdw200169: Thanks
[07:32] <tv7497> guys does vmware act like an x64 system can it emulate an x64 system unlike vbox only x86
[07:32] <itai> arvind_khadri, but i still get an error : unable to open /dev/sbd read-write
[07:33] <halycon> Does anyone know how to make the entire gnome panel transparent?
[07:33] <rdw200169> khmer42, heres one link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SingleSignOn
[07:33] <arvind_khadri> itai, have you got permissions to do so? are you the only user of this machine?
[07:33] <nomingoo> thnx socks! :)
[07:34] <rdw200169> khmer42, and the other: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[07:34] <sockets> tv7497.. i have a 64 bit virtual machine w/ vbox
[07:34] <itai> arvind_khadri, yes,,,i guess there is something wrong with this usb cause i can format other usb sticks
[07:34] <Shakedown> Can I get Java 3D from APT? Or do I need to manually download it from Sun?
[07:35] <arvind_khadri> itai, maybe...
[07:35] <arvind_khadri> itai, does gparted detect your stick?
[07:35] <tv7497> sockets: sir does it support upto 8gb of ram vbox if i have an 64 bit freebsd ?
[07:35] <itai> arvind_khadri, yes ,so does nautilus, but i doesnt allow me to do anything with it except view
[07:36] <sockets> tv7497, THAT i don't know.. since i only have 2 gigs of ram to work with altogether
[07:36] <nomingoo> There is not enough room on the disk to save /tmp/6QgY+nRU.bin.part
[07:36] <hellhound_> what program do I use in Ubuntu 8.10 to do error correction on a disk?  For example i accidentally unplugged a removable device and when I did this in the past I would simply go to windows and use their tool and I could use the removable disk again, but is there one in ubuntu?
[07:36] <nomingoo> any idea how i clean that up?
[07:36] <arvind_khadri> itai, to which point does the stick mount???
[07:37] <tv7497> sockets: will give it a try and let you know sir cause last time i tried vbox for an x64 vista it didnt work
[07:37] <itai> arvind_khadri, /media/disc
[07:37] <itai> disk...
[07:38] <arvind_khadri> itai, ok ls -l /media/disk
[07:38] <arvind_khadri> itai, whats the output?
[07:39] <itai> arvind_khadri, -rwx------ 1 itai root  468267 2007-06-22 19:19 DSCF8930.JPG
[07:39] <tv7497> sockets: sir how do i check is my system a 64 bit ?
[07:39] <sockets> tv7497, good luck! try vbox 2.1.2 (not OSE)
[07:39] <Shakedown> Can I get Java 3D from APT? Or do I need to manually download it from Sun?
[07:39] <mmm4m5m> question: found two empty directories in 'lost+found'. Did I lost anything important? Can I ignore this fact?
[07:40] <nomingoo> ugh, my flashdrive definitely isn't full but linux keeps thinking it is still, anyone know how to clean up junk files?
[07:40] <arvind_khadri> itai, ok. werent you able to unmount and format it in gparted?
[07:40] <itai> arvind_khadri, unable
[07:41] <arvind_khadri> itai, what error do you get?
[07:41] <sockets> tv7497, well if you're in vista check control panel, system (should show info).. are you asking about your CPU or your OS?
[07:41] <bullgard4> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveryMode: "This mode just loads some basic services." What services does it load and what services does it not load?
[07:42] <nomingoo> does anyone know how to clean up temporary files or at least where linux saves them?
[07:42] <itai> arvind_khadri, that the filesystem is read-only
[07:42] <sockets> nomingoo tmp folder in root
[07:42] <tv7497> sockets: sir i am in ubuntu 8.10 x64 its working pretty well i was asking about my cpu is there a way to check it
[07:43] <rdw200169> BULLE, /etc/rcS.d/
[07:43] <rdw200169> bullgard4, /etc/rcS.d/ (darn xchat autocomplete)
[07:43] <Mean_Admin> apart from the obvious, what would "cp: cannot stat `/media/timevault/Music.backuptmp/': No such file or directory" mean ?
[07:44] <mmm4m5m> tv7497: I am not expert but: 'cat /proc/cpuinfo' > pastebin
[07:44] <nomingoo> i can't see any files in root...
[07:44] <nsgn> goodevening. how might i get information from the command prompt on the type of network adapter attached to my machine?
[07:44] <arvind_khadri> itai, but you should be able to unmount it ....
[07:44] <nomingoo> i click file system, root, nothing there i mean
[07:44] <arvind_khadri> itai, anyways hang on for a sec
[07:45] <ph0t0nix> nsgn: try lspci
[07:45] <itai> arvind_khadri, i think the disc is dead..because i just tried the same procedure with another and it was fine
[07:45] <nsgn> ph0t0nix: thank you...that hit the nail on the head
[07:45] <arvind_khadri> itai, oh maybe... which ubuntu btw?
[07:46] <sockets> tv7497 : in terminal : grep flags /proc/cpuinfo - if you see a " lm " then it's a 64 bit CPU
[07:46] <hellhound_> what program do I use in Ubuntu 8.10 to do error correction on a disk?  For example i accidentally unplugged a removable device and when I did this in the past I would simply go to windows and use their tool and I could use the removable disk again, but is there one in ubuntu?
[07:46] <jedi007> HELLO it my theme says it won't look right becuase gtk engine ubuntulooks isn't installed, so i installed gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks 0.9.12-12 and now it says "theme may not look right becuase the required GTK+ theme engine '' is not installed.
[07:46] <itai> arvind_khadri, hardy
[07:46] <tv7497> mmm4m5m: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112684/
[07:46] <jedi007> what do you got to say about that?
[07:47] <sockets> nomingo, in your file system is there a "tmp" folder? (where the bin, usr folders are)
[07:47] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Why do you mwntion this directory? It contains 20 softlinks whose names begin with S.
[07:47] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: depends on the file system on the disk
[07:47] <mmm4m5m> tv7497: I am not expert. Check what sockets told you.
[07:47]  * mmm4m5m looks it is 64
[07:47] <tv7497> mmm4m5m: okie sir
[07:48] <nomingoo> yeah, but its 380b only...
[07:48] <rdw200169> bullgard4, that is the single user mode directory for sysvinit (upstart not) that boots the system.  the kernel is booted into 'single user mode' from /boot/grub/menu.lst for 'recovery mode'
[07:48] <tv7497> sockets: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112685/
[07:48] <rdw200169> bullgard4, *now upstart
[07:48] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: how can i tell?  (I can read the disk right now)
[07:49] <rdw200169> bullgard4, so, if you look at those scripts, symlinked to /etc/init.d/ you will know what processes are started while in 'recovery mode'
[07:49] <sockets> tv7497 "yscall nx lm cons" yeah you have a 64bit OS
[07:49] <sockets> CPU*
[07:49] <mmm4m5m> anyone please: I have two empty directories in 'lost+found'. What to do?
[07:49] <Mean_Admin> does the dot after 'backup.1/'  mean anything special in          cp -al backup.1/. backup.0       ?
[07:49] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: you could use fdisk -l to find out the partition types on the disk
[07:49] <tv7497> sockets: wow so now i can run a 64 bit guest on vbox sir ?
[07:49] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: (has to be run as root, iirc)
[07:49] <arvind_khadri> itai, http://www.mattcutts.com/blog/format-external-drive-for-linux/ try this
[07:50] <bullgard4> rdw200169: Ah! Thank you very much for explaining.
[07:50] <itai> arvind_khadri, thanks
[07:50] <sockets> tv7497, like i said - download vbox 2.1.2 (not the open source edition, i don't know what it's missing but it just use the full one), i did the same and i have windows xp x64 as a guest (virtual machine) operating system
[07:50] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: ok it is W95 FAT32
[07:51] <arvind_khadri> itai, do let me know if it works :) but i too feel that the disk may be gone..
[07:51] <error404notfound> is there a way to dump a categorized list of all packages as they are shown in aptitude?
[07:51] <itai> i have another problem on hardy - can't mount floppy- can anyone assist?
[07:51] <nomingoo> anyone know of a ccleaner equivalent?
[07:51] <sockets> tv7497, maybe vista isn't supported? because i know 64 bit support is still a work in progress but my windows xp VM works perfect, i can't check the ram issue though since i don't have that much ram to begin with
[07:52] <ortsvorsteher> !floppy | itai
[07:52] <rdw200169> bullgard4, directly from upstart (the replacement for init) you can find what happens in recovery mode (as far as login is concerned) in: /etc/event.d/rcS and /etc/event.d/rcS-sulogin
[07:52] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: man fsck.vfat
[07:52] <itai> ortsvorsteher, thanks
[07:52] <tv7497> sockets: what about free bsd sir ? i have lost interest in windows :D
[07:52] <bullgard4> rdw200169: I will study it carefully.
[07:52] <ortsvorsteher> np
[07:52]  * ortsvorsteher is afk
[07:53] <rdw200169> bullgard4, yes, read the documentation for 'upstart' and the boot process for ubuntu.  you will find much on this in the ubuntu wiki and on the upstart website
[07:54] <sockets> tv7497 : try this recommendation (still use the lastest 2.1.2 though, try 1.6.2 if all else fails) - http://fixunix.com/freebsd/539022-re-virtualbox-2-0-2-freebsd-7-x64-guest-install-crashes.html
[07:55] <tv7497> sockets: thank you sir thanks a lot
[07:55] <mmm4m5m> sockets: what about my qestion :) - two empty directories in 'lost+found' - is it bad
[07:55] <itai> ortsvorsteher, thanks but still get Unable to mount location
[07:55] <Montblanc_Kupo> I have a hopefully very easy info question if anyone has a second.
[07:56] <bnagy> rww: if you're interested, removing and DLing from main repo worked. My fastest repo's copy must be broken or something weird
[07:56] <bnagy> weird
[07:56] <sockets> mmm4m5m, no there's nothing wrong with that
[07:56] <Mean_Admin> I seriously need a sanity check: does this look like a good way to do incremental backups http://pastebin.com/m328f0cd3
[07:57] <mmm4m5m> sockets: good to know. thank you.
[07:58] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: hummm i do not think I am doing it right I typed "sudo dosfsck -a /dev/sda1"  but I can not tell that it did anything since the output was instant "dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN     Cluster size is zero"
[08:00] <itai> arvind_khadri, nope...i guess the disc is dead
[08:01] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: hmm... That's not what I expected. And if you ad the -v -l switches?
[08:01] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: ad -> add
[08:01] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: I am not expert, but does not look good to me. It depends what results you want. Check #bash forum.
[08:01] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: all right thanks :)
[08:03] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: check rdiff-backup. I am not sure if you like it about  music backup - compression will be useless in this case. Still, you will get time backups, you will be able to restore old versions.
[08:03] <Like> wow
[08:03] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: it get "dosfsck 2.11 (12 Mar 2005)" then "dosfsck 2.11, 12 Mar 2005, FAT32, LFN" and then "Cluster size is zero"   but according the MAN it seems i should see "exit status:" 0, 1, or 2
[08:04] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: for the moment, I will settle for a bash scrip that makes sense :S it's kinda backwards so it's weird
[08:04] <ryth> hi.. I just installed Ubuntu 8.10 and I don't seem to have any sound... would anyone have an idea how this might be fixed?
[08:04] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: you can find oud the exit status of the previous command with echo $?
[08:05] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: it looks to me, that you rotate backup folders in opposite way :) - backup3 to backup2, must be backup2 to backup3 (again, not expert)
[08:06] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: actually, this is excercise of logic, not really of expertise so you're better than me there already, but I have a new iteration (http://pastebin.com/m4c59fa2b)
[08:07] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix:  ok it said 0   so does actually work that quick?  In windows this takes about 20 seconds or so... but this way seemed to be instant (not even one second)
[08:08] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: Do you have only a few files on the drive?
[08:08] <ryth> I'm trying to install a program but it gives me the error "Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libqt4-core" anyone know where to get this and how to install it?
[08:08] <kriss3d_> odd.. it seems as if the sound when running ubuntu is very low.. where the sound in windows gets alot higher.. are there more than one place it could be turned down ?
[08:09] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: yes there is hardly anything on it.... but just as a guess I tried another partition that is about 60 Gigs with 20 used and it was instant too
[08:09] <nikos__> hi
[08:09] <nikos__> hi
[08:09] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: finally you do not need rsync. You will lost backup0 next time when you run the script.
[08:10] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: hmm... I agree with you that it should take more time.
[08:10] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: is the file system mounted?
[08:10] <initial_B> is WORD "satisfiable"  adjective ? i cant find dic..
[08:10] <Mean_Admin> well backup 0 will be cp as backup1
[08:11] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: yes it is mounted
[08:11] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: I think that's the problem. Please unmount it furst
[08:11] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: furst -> first
[08:12] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: since you cannot make changes to a mounted fs.
[08:12] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: same result on both drives
[08:12] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: what about simple tar (date/time in dest file name), something like: tar /media/timevault/Music.$(date).backup0' /media/library/Music
[08:12] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: maybe that;s thew way I should roll..
[08:12] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: do not execute it, check tar parameters first :) pls
[08:13] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: yeah that's why I come crying ehre
[08:13] <Mean_Admin> here*
[08:13] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: I'm running out of options here... Anyone else has a good idea?
[08:15] <soroush> hi. my system says it cannot lock the resource /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11
[08:15] <soroush> while i want to update it
[08:16] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: is there not a GUI app like system tools or something to scan disks and partitions for errors?
[08:17] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: gparted can do it, i think
[08:17] <soroush> I have no other update programme open
[08:18] <mmm4m5m> hellhound_: e2fsck
[08:18] <ph0t0nix> mmm4m5m: his partition is FAT32
[08:18] <keith11313> hi, is there a way to delete an extended partion, without killing the partions inside of it
[08:19] <neosisani> how does one enable touchpad in ubuntu? is there some option in system or do i have to edit xorg.conf?
[08:20] <hellhound_> mmm4m5m: the man says that is only for ext2 or ext3 file systems not FAT32
[08:20] <bamhm182> test
[08:20] <bamhm182> alright, cool
[08:21] <mmm4m5m> hellhound_: Sorry. If you are interested: 'Ultimate Boot CD' (there are two versions in internet). Free live CDs with many dos and rescue tools. Sometimes, I use it for my ntfs partitions. Note, it is free, could be bad.
[08:22]  * mmm4m5m two versions = two different web sites
[08:22] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: I think i found the problem .. it is not /dev/sda1 but I don't know what it is... I looked in Gparted adn realized that sda1 is an empty partition on my harddrive.
[08:24] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: aha, that helps :-)
[08:24] <hellhound_> ph0t0nix: according to Nautilus the device is located at gphoto2://[usb:003,005]/DCIM/101CANON   but what /dev/ would that be?
[08:25] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: I should have seen that, since /dev/sda is usually not an external drive
[08:25] <Matzi> is it normal for installation on vista to be a pain?
[08:25] <ph0t0nix> if it is mounted, you can use the mount command to find out which device is mounted
[08:26] <neosisani> nvm fixed
[08:26] <mmm4m5m> hellhound_: 'ls -l /dev/disk/by-id'
[08:26] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: okay, one last logic try (assuming hard link means file stays alive if at least one hard link remains), does this script make sense (http://pastebin.com/m5a250337)
[08:27] <ph0t0nix> hellhound_: Maybe http://users.bigpond.net.au/hermanzone/p10.htm can also help you out
[08:29] <mmm4m5m> Mean_Admin: The same error like previous version. Check this: http://pastebin.com/m7c51f2b4 . Best ask #bash, you will find better solution and will learn something more.
[08:30] <Mean_Admin> mmm4m5m: oookay thanks
[08:30] <xC> can i run ubuntu tweak in xubuntu?
[08:30] <kgee> hi all from N.Z
[08:33] <Charles> Hello, Does anyone know of a good gdm editor?
[08:35] <kgee> hi Charles does anyone talk on here
[08:36] <sybux> Hi all. I've a little issue install moodle on my system. I mispell the mysql user and I don't know where to change it in the dpkh configuration
[08:36] <tleuser_> ร
[08:36] <tleuser_> hi
[08:36] <mmm4m5m> xC: Ask #xubuntu (for me, looks like ubuntu tweaks is for gnome and gnome applications in ubuntu. Do you have gnome in xubuntu)
[08:36] <tleuser_> ไครเป็นคนไทยมั่ง
[08:36] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: movie -rating -year body of lies
[08:36] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Rating: 7.4, Votes: 16031. Year: 2008.
[08:37] <Decepticon> is there some way to figure out what my wireless key is, i dont want to reboot my router, ive got a lot of saved settings in the router
[08:37] <tleuser_> มีคนไทยใช้_สำ_ป่าว
[08:37] <tleuser_> xjk;
[08:37] <Chousuke> tleuser_: english only here.
[08:37] <Enissay> Hi i'm using the proprietary driver for my radeon x1650 gpu, a new driver is out since 01/29. but the hardware driver manager dosn't update it... how can I do so please?
[08:37] <tleuser_> ใช้tleป่าว
[08:38] <MeVsTheVoices> Giggles: movie -rating -year afro samurai resurrection
[08:38] <CQ2> hello, if I put a script in /etc/cron.daily, it should run daily without having to change anythign else, right? Where is the output logged?
[08:38] <Giggles> MeVsTheVoices: Rating: 8.1, Votes: 522. Year: 2009.
[08:38] <Charles> Hello, Does anyone know of a good gdm editor?
[08:39] <kgee> how do i install gnome do
[08:39] <Charles> !gnome kgee
[08:39] <Charles> lol
[08:39] <Charles> i so messed that up
[08:39] <mmm4m5m> Enissay: by default, updates get latest from ubuntu repositories. Check vendor web site (and google) how to install latest version (hope it is stable)
[08:41] <Charles> Is there a GDM editor or do you have to compile from code
[08:43] <ChronosZA> has/does anyone else use Evolution and it claims to be sending emails from the outbox but never actually does?
[08:48] <sam1357> hello people... am new to ubuntu am i in the right channel to ask for help?
[08:48] <Flannel> sam1357: Yep.  This is the place.
[08:48] <sam1357> thank you flannel
[08:49] <kgee> hi sam u and me r newbies
[08:49]  * ChronosZA is going to beat evolution with a sledge hammer
[08:49] <kgee> try thunderbird
[08:50] <ChronosZA> kgee : its downloading. just hope it can import the 2GB of email from Evolution :)
[08:50] <kgee> good luck
[08:50] <sam1357> i have a desktop and a lap top. desktop's at home and laptop is in the place where i study.. unfortunately i dont have internet access in my study place... so my doubt is if i can install ubuntu in my desktop, customise it to my hearts content, install all the needed applications, update it, then create a bootable disk, so i can install the custom ubuntu in my laptop
[08:51] <sam1357> hi kgee
[08:51] <ChronosZA> sam1357 : you "could" set it up one the  home pc and ghost/image it and restore it to the laptop. But I'm not sure how it will boot the new hardware.
[08:51] <kgee> hi sam
[08:52] <kgee> night all
[08:52] <sam1357> hi chronosZA.. hardware wise ubuntu works well with my laptop.....
[08:53] <sam1357> night kgee
[08:53] <keith11313> is wireless working out of the box
[08:53] <ChronosZA> kgee: ironic, im having my morning coffee :)
[08:53] <sybux> I've a little issue installing moodle on my system. I mispell the mysql user and I don't know where to change it in the dpkg configuration
[08:53] <sam1357> i don use wireless... so it aint a problem at all
[08:53] <kgee> 9.53pm in n.z
[08:53] <Flannel> sam1357: You can just install Ubuntu on each, then play around with the one you have internet access on, and then onceyou know what you want, you can sneakernet stuff over.  Apt On CD makes it relatively easily.
[08:53] <Flannel> !aptoncd | sam1357
[08:54] <ChronosZA> kgee : aah, 10h53 am in ZA. i have a friend who just moved there. says he likes it very much
[08:54] <ChronosZA> Flannel: didnt know that. very nice. thx.
[08:54] <sam1357> ok flannel thank you... will remastersys help???
[08:54] <kgee> za is that South Africa
[08:54] <Flannel> sam1357: Er, that used to have a link.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/APTonCD
[08:55] <keith11313> wireless is a big deal for laptops
[08:55] <sam1357> will definitely give it a try..
[08:55] <Flannel> sam1357: I've never used remastersys, and don't know a whole lot about it.  But I think it'd be more trouble than what its worth.
[08:56] <ChronosZA> great. there is no option for thunderbird to import mail from evolution
[08:56] <sam1357> ok flannel will keep you guys updated... thank you...thanks ChronosZA
[08:57] <ChronosZA> before i setup an imap server locally just to copy the mail from evolution to it and then back to thunderbird, is anyone aware of a tool that might do the job easier?
[08:58] <Flannel> ChronosZA: Doesn't Evolution just save it in Maildir on the disk?
[08:58] <ChronosZA> Flannel : i think so?
[08:58] <Flannel> ChronosZA: Thunderbird ought to be able to import a Maildir folder (or just use the Maildir, but I don't know specifics)
[08:59] <ChronosZA> Flannel: yeah i see evolution stuck everthing in .evolution/mail in my home folder as maildirs.
[08:59] <ChronosZA> hmmm. lemme create a profile in thunderbird then see what import options i get.
[09:00] <kompi07> mardi
[09:03] <ChronosZA> Flannel: it worked :)
[09:03] <ChronosZA> Flannel: created the same mailbox as on Evolution, copied the inbox maildir from evolution over the one in the thunderbird mail directory and restarted thunderbird and its all there :)
[09:04] <tramp> whats up everyone?
[09:05] <jedi007> how do you check if you have a 64bit ubuntu again? uname -a
[09:05] <mmm4m5m> Question: how to make NVidia rebuild automatically after kernel update. I have NVidia (9600GT) drivers NVidia web site. All works, except it does not rebuild automatically after kernel auto updates.
[09:05] <ryth> anyone know how to reset sound issues in ubuntu?
[09:06] <ryth> is anyone alive?
[09:07] <mmm4m5m> ryth: Reset to default settings or restart? 'sudo /etc/init.d/alsa... restart'. Sometimes does not work for me, so I have to: 'sudo modprobe snd...'
[09:07] <unknown> hello, anyone known how to convert CR2 files to jpg?
[09:08] <ryth> I'm pretty much completely new to linux.. I had it installed once on this computer before with 8.04 and the sound never gave me any problems.  I just installed 8.10 and sound isn't working...
[09:08] <travis13> How long should I let the ubuntu alternate installer sit at "preparing to install gimp" before i give up?
[09:09] <unknown> my Father has vista and can't see pictures from baby 1 birthday :/
[09:09] <ryth> mmm4m5m: what is the command again?
[09:09] <mmm4m5m> ryth: sorry, not a expert. Command will not help. I do use it after I play game and sound just stop.
[09:10] <mmm4m5m> ryth: what you told is - sound not working after upgrade and reboot
[09:10] <ryth> I typed the first one and it says "sudo:/etd/init.d/alsa: command not found"
[09:10] <travis13> etc
[09:10] <mmm4m5m> hit 'tab' twice after alsa (I write there '...')
[09:11] <ryth> yea etc... sorry
[09:11] <ryth> k
[09:11] <ryth> trying again...
[09:11] <mmm4m5m> it must be alsasound and alsa-utils. Again I am not expert and looks like it will not help.
[09:13] <fanooz> hi for help. bunty broked. put in the new point of mountation on /etc/fstab to new disk /dev/sda31. bunty no boot. grub and no lilo will not boot? no y bunty broked?
[09:13] <fanooz> please to help
[09:14] <ryth> brb going to restart
[09:14] <fanooz> hi for help. bunty broked. put in the new point of mountation on /etc/fstab to new disk /dev/sda31. bunty no boot. grub and no lilo will not boot? no y bunty broked?
[09:15] <cynicismic> sda31?
[09:15] <cynicismic> surely sda3?
[09:15] <fanooz> oh no and mistake /sda3
[09:15] <fanooz> yes
[09:15] <fanooz> cynicismic no boot and broked. bunty no start
[09:15] <cynicismic> you don't even get as far as grub boot screen?
[09:16] <Guest29352> hello ppl, my ip changes each time I restart the machine, is there a way to stop that from happening?
[09:16] <fanooz> yes grub but no booty boot boot
[09:16] <Light-> fanooz, are you trolling?
[09:16] <fanooz> Guest29352 are you joking?
[09:16] <fanooz> Light- no, and I resent that.
[09:16] <Guest29352> nope
[09:16] <tv7497> guys how do i get or install gtk murrine engine or aurora engine in my ibex i need this to make my dust theme work
[09:16] <fanooz> Guest29352 which IP exactly?
[09:16] <Guest29352> my external ip
[09:17] <fanooz> Guest29352 your ISP will assign a different IP everytime you connect via DHCP etc.
[09:17] <fanooz> Guest29352 you can't do anything about it
[09:17] <Guest29352> :(
[09:17] <fanooz> Guest29352 if you want to be able to use your changing address get a dynamic dns service domain
[09:17] <cynicismic> do you get any errors on boot?
[09:17] <fanooz> cynicismic fixed it. thanks
[09:17] <Light-> Guest29352, you could also buy a static IP off your ISP
[09:18] <mmm4m5m> :)
[09:18] <fanooz> Light- he doesn't have to go to those extremes. Especially when he doesn't even know about dynamic and static IPs
[09:18] <mmm4m5m> fanooz: how did you fix it :)
[09:18] <Guest29352> the second option is better for me, thanks
[09:19] <fanooz> Guest29352 why, what are you doing?
[09:19] <fanooz> cynicismic i just kept slapping my box until it worked
[09:19] <Guest29352> I need a static ip for my apache, cause if it changes every time I need to run the no-ip client every time I reboot
[09:20] <Guest29352> and i'm quite a newby to servers
[09:20] <fanooz> lol
[09:20] <ChronosZA> ermm. your ip is assigned by the ISP, apache doesnt really care.
[09:20] <ChronosZA> it listens on interface ports.
[09:20] <Guest29352> no-ip cares hahah
[09:21] <fanooz> Guest29352 er .. no-ip IS a dynamic dns service LOL
[09:21] <Guest29352> ?
[09:22] <well> hi guys, when i am closing files in vim until the last one, syntax will off automatically, why? thx
[09:22] <Light-> Guest29352, the whole point of no-ip is that it doesnt care
[09:22] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: "When configured correctly, the client will check your IP address at a given time interval checking to see if your IP has changed"
[09:22] <fanooz> Guest29352 you should get a better understanding of what is actually happening with apache and your IP address
[09:22] <Abracadabra> Hi
[09:22] <Guest29352> :(
[09:22] <Guest29352> cool day
[09:23] <AdvoWork> Hi there, i just did df and it says 100% usage on one drive, ive deleted loads of stuff via the terminal, but its still 100% do i have to empty the recycle bin or something(if so, how from the terminal)?
[09:23] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: (not expert) looks like no-ip is not auto started after boot
[09:23] <Abracadabra> On Ubuntu, what is the method to get the wifi (WEP and WPA) and commands to set it up (from CLI if possible) ?
[09:23] <fanooz> Guest29352 well, go get a static IP from your ISP then. Get ready to fend off attacks though :-)
[09:24] <fanooz> Guest29352 you can get a client that will connect to no-ip everytime your IP changes
[09:24] <fanooz> Guest29352 hell, I could write you shell script that will do it
[09:24] <fanooz> you could cron it and run it every 10 mins or so
[09:24] <BlackDalek> Does anyone know how to get sound in Skype?
[09:25] <fanooz> pump up the volume, pump up the volume
[09:25] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: btw, when IP is changed, it will takes time to spread. If your IP changes every time and you do now want to wait, you need static IP
[09:25] <fanooz> mmm4m5m that is true. Except I've found with ddns.nu they propogate out the address very quickly
[09:26] <fanooz> mmm4m5m within 5 mins
[09:26] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352, fanooz: ok, my info is old :)
[09:26] <Guest29352> in my case in only takes a couple of minutes
[09:26] <fanooz> mmm4m5m no, you are right for most dynamic dns providers
[09:26] <fanooz> some take days lol
[09:26] <fanooz> Guest29352 then what is your problem lol
[09:26] <fanooz> Guest29352 all you want is a client that updates the no-ip dns servers
[09:27] <Guest29352> having to open the browser , login and update the ip each time i reboot
[09:27] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: do you have no-ip package installed? configured? auto started?
[09:27] <Guest29352> that's a problem cause I reboot oftenly
[09:27] <Guest29352> desktop package?
[09:27] <fanooz> Guest29352 I'll say it slowly. You. Can. Get. A. Client. That. Updates. Automatically.
[09:27] <ChronosZA> Guest29352: are u connecting with a wireless router? or some kind of router?
[09:28] <Guest29352> n router
[09:28] <Guest29352> no router
[09:28] <Light-> adsl modem most likely
[09:28] <ChronosZA> oh. ok so u need a client
[09:28] <fanooz> Guest29352 hell, it's one of no-ip's features; Free dynamic DNS update client
[09:28] <Guest29352> ok, I'll google for such a client
[09:28] <fanooz> Guest29352 you can get it to run either everytime you reboot or when your IP changes
[09:29] <fanooz> Guest29352 it's on their site!
[09:29] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: "no-ip" deb package (even with updated IP, if you reboot often, I will not be able to access your servers)
[09:29] <mmm4m5m> Guest29352: http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/net/no-ip
[09:29] <ari_stress> when we do package update, is it true that only kernel update needs a reboot?
[09:29] <Guest29352> thanks guys
[09:30] <fanooz> Guest29352 consider the whole exercise a learning experience. And I suggest you get better aquainted with what is actually happening with your server, it'll help in the long run :-)
[09:30] <ChronosZA> mmm4m5m: is correct, although no-ip refreshes every 5 mins, that can be overriden by the cache servers in isps elsewhere, i know here in ZA they often set it to 10mins.
[09:30] <fanooz> Guest29352 then work up to programming Berkeley Sockets in C
[09:30] <Guest29352> oh, what's that....
[09:30] <Guest29352> :(
[09:30] <fanooz> ChronosZA well, that was me. But don't confuse HIM!
[09:31] <ChronosZA> fanooz: sorry. ill sit in the corner and shuttup. i need more coffee anyway :)
[09:31] <fanooz> ChronosZA it's beer o clock here
[09:31] <mmm4m5m> :)
[09:31] <ChronosZA> fanooz : where's here?
[09:31] <remoteCTR1> i have a permissions problem with an nfs volume, can someone help me with that pls?
[09:32] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: maybe you could tell us a little more about what exactly is the permission problem
[09:32] <fanooz> Guest29352 do you understand what we are saying? You need to run the update client every time you either reboot or re-connect. You can configure this to happen automatically. No need to do it manually.
[09:32] <fanooz> ChronosZA australia
[09:32] <fanooz> 8:30pm
[09:33] <ChronosZA> fanooz: oh. yeah our beer is better here. sorry man :)
[09:33] <fanooz> lol that's cool. I'd rather have worse beer and live here ;-)
[09:33] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: i am trying to backup my workstation to an nfs mounted volume, if i do it as user i get access errors on the workstation (perm ission denied), if i do it with gksudo i get the permission problems on the nfs-volume... how can i solve that?
[09:33] <Guest29352> I installed the .deb
[09:33] <ChronosZA> Guest29352: unless the website u wanna host is overly complicated, i would just invest a few $ in a hosting site on the net. they're cheap, and they are on dedicated lines so no ip hassles.
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:34] <ChronosZA> yo.
[09:34] <fanooz> ChronosZA yeah, but he wants to learn about it
[09:34] <fanooz> no harm in that
[09:34] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: pastebin what the mount command gives you
[09:34] <Guest29352> I want to learn stuff, nothin' more
[09:34] <mano> \list
[09:34] <ChronosZA> fanooz: linode.com :)
[09:34] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: the mount command works perfect, gives nothing in return
[09:34] <Guest29352> ok, now I installed the client , how do I run it?
[09:34] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: I don't believe that comment
[09:35] <fanooz> Guest29352 it doesn't have any documentation?
[09:35] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: well what do you want me to paste then?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> scizzo-: in linux, no news is good news
[09:35] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: what I mean is: Type "mount" only in the terminal......not anything else and pastebin the output
[09:35] <fanooz> Guest29352 from the site: "Our dynamic DNS update client continually checks for IP address changes in the background and automatically updates the DNS at No-IP whenever it changes."
[09:35] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: ah! hehe, sec pls
[09:36] <fanooz> Guest29352 so once it's installed you are good to go
[09:36] <ChronosZA> Guest29352: have u setup a no-ip account?
[09:36] <Guest29352> so once installed it does its job without any need from me to bother it? that'd be cool
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest29352: i use that service, i run the windows client via wine after spending an eternity trying to get the linux client running
[09:36] <fanooz> Guest29352 yep
[09:36] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: that would be this: http://nopaste.org/p/aqKEHaZ5d
[09:36] <fanooz> Guest29352 I do the same kind of thing with about 30 dynamic domains
[09:37] <Guest29352> ok, now I'm gonna reboot
[09:37] <fanooz> well, fixed domains, dynamic DNS ;-)
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest29352: it sends your account details every hour or so which will have an originating ip which will update the dns
[09:37] <Guest29352> wish me good luck hahahah
[09:37] <fanooz> good luck lol
[09:37] <fanooz> 'course I wrote my own updating client
[09:37] <ChronosZA> we are not worthy
[09:37] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: ls -d /backup
[09:38] <fanooz> well I had to .. they are all on different companies
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> ok here's my puzzler
[09:38] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: klaus@katana:~$ ls -d /backup
[09:38] <remoteCTR1> /backup
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> if i have running apps on an x server, then ssh in with x forwarding enabled, is it possible to make the already running apps appear on the forwarded x server without having to kill / rerun theapp
[09:39] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: right I wanna know the permissions on /backup
[09:39] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: with screen maybe
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: its stuff like thunderbird
[09:39] <yabuk> what button of the keyboard is called "Meta"?
[09:40] <mmm4m5m> scizzo-: 'ls -dl /backup'
[09:40] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: drwxr-xr-x   2 nobody nogroup  4096 2009-02-02 10:32 backup
[09:40] <Reese> hi
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: it locks the mail files so I have to release them by killing it then rerunning it and the app appears fine on the remote system
[09:40] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: that explains a lot
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Reese
[09:40] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: yeah the only way that i know of to "resume" running apps is with the screen command...
[09:40] <Reese> thanks
[09:40] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: the nobody nogroup thingie i guess you mean right?
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: hmm, i'lllook into it some
[09:41] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: :)
[09:41] <fanooz> hmm gotta take a large dump ...
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: i'd love that, or a web interface to the locally stored emails, either is good
[09:41] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: well part of it yes
[09:41] <Reese> nice fanoox
[09:41] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: point is: if i use it as my nomral user. ie. klauis it works just fine, but i cant execute rsync as user as that as said before returns me "permission denied's" on my filesystem
[09:42] <Guest66592> won't work, the domain listens to the old ip
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: then use UIDs to make rsync not need sudo (maybe)
[09:42] <Reese> login in as root then remotCTRL
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Guest66592: it'll take a while to get settled if its new
[09:42] <x__> hello
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Reese: don't advise that here
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Reese: its 1. HUGELY insecure, 2. Very unubuntu
[09:43] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: not sure if i follow...?
[09:43] <Guest66592> I run no-ip in terminal and I get this : "Can't locate configuration file /etc/no-ip.conf. (Try -c). Ending!"
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Reese: eneabling the root account can severly damage system security
[09:43] <scizzo-> remoteCTR1: rsync is something I don't know much of...however my question would then be if its the source dir or the dest dir that gives the error
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: you can sorta make some apps not need sudo
[09:43] <remoteCTR1> Reese: and after all that dont change anything, alredy tried it...
[09:44] <jordan___> is there a shortcut to get a terminal up?
[09:44] <doktoreas> hello everybody..I am using ubuntu server edition with automatic updates..how can I check wich packages have been upgraded?
[09:44] <Reese> right I guess so. Thats about the quickest way to do it though if it has to do with permissions.... oh in that case nvm then
[09:44] <Reese> hmmm
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you look in keyboard settings you can assign one
[09:44] <Winball> jordan___: You can create a keyboard-shortcut with gnome-keybinding-properties
[09:44] <remoteCTR1> scizzo-: that depends on what user i execute it with; if as user then the local filesystem gives the permission denieds, if as superuser the nfs-volume mocks
[09:44] <Winball> jordan___: I use the «menu» button on my keyboard for terminal
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: or install tilda and you can have one dropping from the top of the screen like in doom / quake / half life
[09:45] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: umm within the sudoers file you mean?
[09:45] <jordan___> i might as well use the windows key
[09:45] <jordan___> since it doesn't do anything
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> remoteCTR1: not sure, i believe its something to do with UIDs
[09:45] <Noob> Hi, where and how can I intstall that Boot Manager?
[09:45] <skoef> wg habbie
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: you can assign any key you like to it
[09:45] <jordan___> where do i go to do that?
[09:45] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: but those correspond to the usernames, don't they?
[09:45] <silv3r_m00n> hi there... i installed some updates from synaptic yesterday and today I see the panels are not coming in gnome desktop
[09:45] <silv3r_m00n> why ?
[09:45] <Snupt> hello. Where can I find Wavelet decompose filter for Ubuntu (deb package)?
[09:45] <Noob> Because I deleted the Ubuntu Partition, but now I can't load vista. I don't have the install disk, and I can't re-install ubuntu.
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you use kde, yakuake is the kde equiv
[09:46] <Reese> gotta go I have to get to sleep.
[09:46] <Snupt> filter for GIMP
[09:46] <Reese> bye
[09:46] <remoteCTR1> Noob: have a look at supergrub disk
[09:46] <jordan___> i don't know if i use kde i think i use gnome
[09:46] <Noob> Where can I just download the file to install it?
[09:46] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you have a bar at the top and a bar at the bottom its gnome
[09:47] <Noob> Supergrub disk?
[09:47] <Noob> Ok.
[09:47] <jordan___> yes gnome
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: sudo apt-get install tilda; tilda &; clear
[09:47] <Noob> I would have kept Ubuntu if the updates weren't so slow.
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: that will run it, if you like it, add the tilda command to your startup
[09:47] <remoteCTR1> Noob: its a disk that you gotta burn and google is your friend man;)
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> jordan___: if you don't, uninstall
[09:48] <jordan___> k got it thanks
[09:48] <Noob> Ok, thanks. Will that let me boot up vista again?
[09:48] <lorenzosu> !symlink
[09:48] <remoteCTR1> Noob: its got some options with wich you can fix the master boot record to boot your windows in the future, yes
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Noob: you will need to add a vista entry to /boot/grub/menu.list
[09:49] <remoteCTR1> ActionParsnip: he purged ubuntu
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if you have removed linux you will need to fixmbr from vista cd
[09:49] <Noob> How do I do that?
[09:49] <Noob> I don't have the Vista CD, it came pre-installed on my laptop.
[09:49] <remoteCTR1> Noob: just use the supergrub disk that'll do the magic
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if you no longer have linux on your system you are in the wrong place
[09:50] <raevol> i can't seem to get sound from 2 programs at the same time, i am running alsa .19 from the upgrade script in the forum, is this an ubuntu problem or an alsa problem?
[09:50] <Noob> I am using ubuntu at the moment, I'm running it from a CD-rom.
[09:50] <iPeter-> Hey, is it possible when choosing "Open containing folder" in uTorrent to open it in Nautilus? Using Ubuntu 8.04.2
[09:50] <remoteCTR1> raevol: you need a soundserver in order for that to work, basically ubuntu comes with pulseaudio
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: utorrent is a windos app yes?
[09:51] <cakey> you dont need sound...
[09:51] <raevol> remoteCTR1, do you think because i used that upgrade script it borked pulseaudio? is there a way i could check if it's working right?
[09:51] <cakey> THE FINAL COUNTDOWN is now playing in your head!
[09:51] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, Yeah.
[09:51] <remoteCTR1> Noob: first of all please write the name of the person that you are talking to, second SUPERGRUB DISK IT IS
[09:51] <cakey> tenen ten
[09:51] <cakey> tenenen ten ten
[09:51] <cakey> tenenen ten
[09:51] <FloodBot1> cakey: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: i'll have a look, i'm not sure its overly supported. Why didnt you use one on the billions of native clients
[09:51] <Noob> RemoteCTR1: Sorry. So, burn supergrub to a disk and run it, should let me boot vista like it did before I got reid of Linux?
[09:51] <remoteCTR1> raevol: look into your system/preferences/sound options and see what devices you have picked there
[09:52] <remoteCTR1> Noob: exactly
[09:52] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, I think deluge is crap and Transmission is too, so best client what i have used is uTorrent.
[09:52] <raevol> remoteCTR1, i see, its set on auto, should i set it to pulseaudio?
[09:52] <Noob> RemotreCTR1: Thanks!
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !torrents | iPeter-
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> !torrent | iPeter-
[09:53] <lorenzosu> Anyone know a good clear explanation and guide to symlinks?
[09:53] <Nom-> Anyone know of any good event based monitoring systems?  When something breaks, I'd like an alert immediately, rather than on the next poll (like nagios)
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: ktorrent is similar to utorrent apparently
[09:53] <remoteCTR1> raevol: you can of course try and see what happens;)
[09:53] <iPeter-> I dont like of kde apps on gnome. :S
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: you are making a tonne of complication using a wndows client, lets see if I can find some nautilus goodness
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: im the same but vice versa
[09:54] <Noob> RemoteCTR1: Do I just burn the ISO Directly to the disk?
[09:54] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, Yeah, well it would be good if it would be possible to open it on nautilus, but if not, i maybe can live with it (:
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: do you by any chance run mirc as your irc client?
[09:54] <koshar2> iPeter whats wrong with transmission? i used to use utorrent through wine but i find transmissian great
[09:54] <remoteCTR1> Noob: err nope you neet to burn the iso, that is a cd file, dont just copy the iso to the disk that will not work
[09:55] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, it would be possible, but i'am running xChat, Why?
[09:55] <remoteCTR1> Noob: if you for example use gnomebaker to burn there is an option in tools menu "burn iso"
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: i just find that folks that run utorrent run mirc too
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: makes me laugh
[09:55] <Noob> RemoteCTR1: Problem, if I take out the disk, Ubuntu will shut down as I am having to run it straight from the Disk.
[09:55] <iPeter-> Lol
[09:56] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, I think xChat is on same level with mirc. I like of this.
[09:56] <Nom-> Torrents are so 2008
[09:56] <Nom-> Usenet ftw
[09:56] <zaggynl> ..
[09:56] <iPeter-> :d
[09:56] <Noob> Ubuntu has to be so hard to get rid of, doesn't it...
[09:56] <zaggynl> usenet, is so 1979
[09:56] <remoteCTR1> Noob: LOL well i am outa ideas then buddy...
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> Noob: not with a true OS cd
[09:56] <Nom-> Dude.  Retro is back in.
[09:57] <Nom-> Didn't you get the memo?
[09:57] <zaggynl> I know, I love usenet
[09:57] <Noob> Well the DVD drive is refusing to open. This is so annoying.
[09:57] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[09:57] <zaggynl> why make something else if the old stuff works fine
[09:57] <silv3r_m00n> after doing some updates the panels in gnome desktop are not coming up
[09:57] <remoteCTR1> Noob: actually it isnt... its more like windows is hard to insert into a dual boot configuration and even harder to restore when giving up the dual boot...
[09:57] <zaggynl> then again, bittorrent was made to spread load
[09:58] <raevol> remoteCTR1, that didn't fix it :(
[09:59] <remoteCTR1> raevol: something wrong there then... tryed setting pulse and then reboot? maybe something s stuck there... not so uncommon nowadays unfortunately
[09:59] <M1Tn1Ck> salve vorrei chiedere come faccio ad aumentare i programmi installabili con wine-doors
[09:59] <raevol> remoteCTR1, did reboot actually. could pulse be using the old version of alsa that's still installed?
[10:00] <remoteCTR1> raevol: as far as i understand pulse does use alsa but dont nail me on that
[10:00] <Noob> I've got my hands on my sister's laptop.
[10:00] <remoteCTR1> Noob: then burn it there;)
[10:00] <zaggynl> you per--her laptop
[10:00] <zaggynl> nvm
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: i cant find anything dude, utorrent is a windows app so would expect he windows file manager by default
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: windows apps arent that smart so I dont know how you can make it use nautilus/thunar/rox-filer/whatever
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: all i can suggest is a native app which will be more stable as well as use a tonne less resources
[10:03] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, Okay, anyway thanks of helping.
[10:03] <Noob> Lol, reading here, does everyone hate Windows or something?
[10:03] <Winball> haha
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its ok, it has its place
[10:04] <iPeter-> ActionParsnip, uTorrent wont take much of resources, i got enough good computer to run it without problems (lol), it have been working great so no need to change, yet.
[10:04] <raevol> anyone know anything about this issue? I can't get sound from multiple applications at once, new applications disable sound in already-running ones
[10:04] <ActionParsnip> iPeter-: its your system
[10:04] <iPeter-> (:
[10:04] <nightrid3r> Noob: no i love microsoft, theyr cd's make nice wall clocks :)
[10:04] <lorenzosu> Anyone know a good guide to symlink?
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: man ln
[10:05] <nightrid3r> lorenzosu: man ln for start
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: its fairly straight forard, you create a link from somewhere to somewhere else
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: ln -s /path/to/file/to/link /path/to/new/location/link
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: the symlink takes zero extra space and the system will think there are 2 copies in the 2 positions
[10:06] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: thanks... Will applications funztion "correctly" if accessing /path/to/new/location/link?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: its also good for desktop shortcuts
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: sure, its transparent
[10:07] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Any risk in using it on NTFS?
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: none as long as there is adequate access
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: also if you symlink a folder, the folder paths will simply lead into and out of each other
[10:08] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: so if you 'cd' into a folder which is a symlink, then 'cd ..' you will be back where you started, not one folder up from the symlinked folder
[10:08] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Can you clarify this last point please?
[10:09] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Ah ok.
[10:09] <Noob> Ok, I'm getting pissed off now, my sister's computer can't burn disks...
[10:09] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Once it's set up can I have that symlink to the folder at every boot-up?
[10:09] <Nom-> symlinks are persistent
[10:10] <Noob> I'm going to have to wait until my dad gets back now, which will take hours.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: so if you have a folder called 'mp3s' on an smbmount, you can put a symlink in ~/ so when you 'cd' into it you will be in ~/mp3 which is really a folder on the remote system
[10:10] <Noob> I am NEVER using Ubuntu EVER again.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> lorenzosu: its like any other file, its there til you delete it
[10:10] <Noob> I'm all for open source, but this is ridiculous.
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its not for everyone
[10:10] <Noob> Sorry, I'm ranting.
[10:11] <lorenzosu> Noob: Try explaining your problem, there are people here willing to help ;)
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> Noob: removing the boot info you have has undone you, having a seperate boot partition of 10-20Mb can ease this
[10:11] <bob123> I plan on hiking and travelling a lot .. I am concerned about laptop with hard drive -- I am going to get this laptop http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10009253&prodlist=celebros ---  should I replace the HD with an SSD drive or will the HD be shock resistant enuff?
[10:11] <Noob> But I don't have anything to put in the partition, I'm going to try that supergrub thing.
[10:11] <Noob> If that doesn't work, I'm buggered.
[10:11] <lorenzosu> ActionParsnip: Thanks, great explanation...
[10:11] <ActionParsnip> I personally think the guided / default partitioning is atrocious
[10:12] <lorenzosu> bob123: Depensds how many times you plan to drop it :)
[10:12] <bullgard4> /usr/share/doc/linux-doc-2.6.24/Documentationm68k/kernel-options.txt: "This document describes the valid kernel options for Linux/m68k in the version mentioned at the start of this file." Where can I find an equivalent document describing the kernel options for Linux/x86?
[10:12] <bob123> lorenzosu: hehe good question, I tend to toss my backpacks around, hrm
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> !bootoptions | bullgard4
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: theres a few there
[10:13] <genewitch> Greetings. When i try to SSH into my machine, i get login and password, then it spits out "enter into CT 2270 failed" - then "Unable to open pty: No such file or directory" : i don't have physical access to this machine, but i can pass it bash commands and see the results and/or errors. it's been rebooted.
[10:13] <lorenzosu> bob123: Depends on what you plan doing with the laptop, if for example you'll be downloading loads of photos you need plenty of space, and SSD still seems quite expensive compared to "traditional" HD
[10:13] <bob123> true
[10:13] <bob123> I guess I need to find the specs on the hd that comes with the laptop? see what it can take?
[10:14] <Nom-> So does anyone know of any good monitoring software for Linux systems besides nagios ?
[10:14] <lorenzosu> bob123: You might consider getting an external USB disk to keep separate from the laptop for backup and in a safer, better protected place (say in the middle of your knapsack with lots of waterproof etc.
[10:14] <bob123> ooh
[10:14] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: define monitoring
[10:14] <bob123> I didn't think of that!
[10:14] <bob123> thank you lorenzosu awesome idea :)
[10:15] <bob123> eek I feel dumb
[10:15] <bob123> perfect solution
[10:15] <Nom-> The basics to start with... load, memory, disk, etc... but i'm also chasing something that can be expanded to monitor other systems (like custom software we run)
[10:15] <lorenzosu> bob123: Would help to know what your scenario is though.. i.e. knowing how you'll be using your laptop etc.
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> bob123: there is a lot to consider, i'd research lots before parting with any money
[10:15]  * bob123 shares a cookie with lorenzosu
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: superkaramba
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: conky
[10:15] <bob123> ActionParsnip: trrue true
[10:15] <gordonjcp> bob123: or, for that matter, a solid-state disk
[10:15] <bob123> lorenzosu: I am going to europe and doing a lot of hiking and back packing
[10:15] <gordonjcp> bob123: or even a USB flash drive ;-)
[10:16] <raevol> is there any way Intrepid is going to get a newer version of alsa soon? the lack of hardware support for my motherboard is depressing
[10:16] <bob123> but your idea of a usb stick is good
[10:16] <lorenzosu> bob123: ActionParsnip is giving a wise token as well..
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> bob123: swing by the uk and we'll go for a beer :)
[10:16] <Nom-> Ah, I'm talking about monitoring hundreds of servers
[10:16] <bob123> cause it's easy to encrypt it if stuff gets stolen?
[10:16] <howtoo> I'm looking for a publishing tool for linux, preferably GTK. Something like indesign.. Any suggestions?
[10:16] <lorenzosu> bob123: If you come to Rome I can offer pizza + beer lol
[10:16] <bob123> hehe thanks ActionParsnip :)
[10:16] <bob123> fun :)
[10:16] <Nom-> Which is why I used nagios as an example
[10:16] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Common%20Boot%20Options: "This list is not comprehensive." Where can I find a more comprehensive list?
[10:16] <gabrielcz> Hello all.
[10:16] <lorenzosu> howtoo: Have you tried scribus?
[10:16] <howtoo> lorenzosu, nope
[10:16] <bob123> hey you can get a small SDHC card can't you? isn't athat simliar or no?
[10:17] <gabrielcz> how can I use on shell script with spaces!?
[10:17] <lorenzosu> !scribus
[10:17] <Noob> I reccomend AbiWord, if that's what you want.
[10:17] <gabrielcz> I mean, I need to use a name with spaces on shell script...
[10:17] <lorenzosu> howtoo: http://www.scribus.net/
[10:17] <Noob> !AbiWord
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: http://www.howtoforge.com/monitoring-multiple-systems-with-munin-debian-etch
[10:17] <howtoo> lorenzosu, looks like what I'm after, thanks Ill check it out =)
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> !info abiword
[10:17] <bob123> those little flash cards are same as usb stick?
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Nom-: i'm sure it'll exist for ubuntu
[10:18] <lorenzosu> bob123: It depends on how much storage capacity you need.
[10:19] <bob123> lorenzosu: for my work related prolly about 4 gigs
[10:19] <lorenzosu> howtoo: You might also find inkscape of interest. It is more of a vector graphics app, but one can accomplish certain dtp tasks with it too.
[10:19] <bob123> documents and stuff
[10:19] <Noob> Can Ubuntu run .exe's?
[10:20] <Nom-> Yeah, that's pretty graphs by the looks of it, with no alarming when things go pear shaped
[10:20] <lorenzosu> bob123: If it's only doc and stuff you can now get fairly big USB sticks and SSD for reasanable price. If you go for SSd, though, check that your machine can read them.
[10:20] <howtoo> lorenzosu, yeah, I know Inkscape. But I'm after something to create some good looking documentation in, Scribus looks pretty much what I was looking for =)
[10:20] <bob123> yep good point
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> Noob: with wine, it can run some. If its a driver file, cabextract can extract it
[10:20] <bob123> is truecrypt easy to use? I only fear someone getting my documents if stolen
[10:20] <Noob> ActionParsnip: So it can't just run and install a .exe? Great.
[10:21] <joeyjones_> any ideas for adding extra keys?
[10:21] <Nom-> I just wish nagios scaled better...
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if its a game / app, check the appdb for compatibility, I'd try find an open equiv
[10:21] <joeyjones_> my laptop kb has a dollar and euro key
[10:21] <lorenzosu> bob123: I don't know never used it. If you're really concerned about privacy, though, the first thing to think of is "physical" care.-
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Noob: as i said, consult the appdb
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> !appdb | Noob
[10:21] <Noob> It's that SuperGrub.
[10:21] <bob123> physical care?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> Noob: not all apps work well and some flat refuse, some work great
[10:21] <bob123> yah just don't want my customer e-mail addresses in the wrong hands and stuff
[10:21] <lorenzosu> bob123: meaning, being very carefull it *doesn'té* get stiolen.
[10:21] <Noob> Would SuperGrub work under wine?
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> Noob: go check, click the link
[10:22] <howtoo> ewwh, QT3 apps really looks horrible =)
[10:22] <Noob> !info SuperGrub
[10:22] <bob123> lorenzosu: true .. handcuff to my body :)
[10:22] <lorenzosu> bob123: Well if you're working for the CIA or something I guess so :)
[10:22] <Hew> what is a command that displays general info about the devices/partitions on a system?
[10:22] <bob123> I just like to go over worst case scenarios is all
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Hew: sudo fdisk -l
[10:23] <bob123> I was born with a murphy's law genen hehe
[10:23] <bob123> err gene
[10:23] <lorenzosu> bob123: It's a good approach. Also there also a common-sense in security..
[10:23] <Noob> RANT: Why is ubuntu so fucking awkward?!
[10:23] <Hew> ActionParsnip: Just what I was looking for, thanks :-)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Hew: np
[10:23] <lorenzosu> Noob: Pleas keep a respectful, civil language.
[10:23] <bob123> lorenzosu: I always rsync my files to a remote machine after a bit of work too
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> Hew: only sudo can run anything do do with fdisk
[10:23] <bob123> just to have an offsite backup, etc
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its a new system so it will appear that way, as you settle into it, its ok
[10:24] <lorenzosu> bob123: Yes so do I. Re security what I mean is don't leave a document on your laptop desktop called "mySecretBankAccountPasswords.txt" :)
[10:24] <vendata> how to find the usb port assigned to the phone in hardy?
[10:24] <bob123> haha
[10:24] <vendata> anybody knows 'bout it
[10:24] <vendata> ?
[10:24] <bob123> good point :)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> Noob: its like buying a mac then ranting when half the linux apps you used to use won't run on it and hitting walls a lot, you just otta work out whats what
[10:25] <bob123> that's why i was wondering about truecrypt or such, or are they a big hassle to work with?
[10:25] <Noob> I was alright when I had it, as soon as I deleted the partion, I get Error 15....
[10:25] <lorenzosu> bob123: Never used truecrypt, but I'm sure other users have.
[10:26] <lorenzosu> bob123: My main concern is always "physical" protection care, as Iwas saying.
[10:26] <bob123> hrm wonder if open office has an encryption system, I use calc a lot
[10:26] <bob123> lorenzosu: yah very true
[10:26] <Noob> If I deleted all files to look for Grub when I deleted the partition, why is it still looking for it?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> Noob: yes because the grub config was on the same partition as /
[10:27] <joeyjones_> bob123: truecrypt is decently secure
[10:27] <joeyjones_> and not too dificult to use
[10:27] <ActionParsnip> Noob: so you have a boot sector but no booting system for it to launch
[10:27] <joeyjones_> i'd suggest jsut making a synamic container file
[10:27] <bob123> joeyjones, do you have a link to any guides on how to set it up and stuff?
[10:27] <joeyjones_> bob123: it has quite good documentation
[10:27] <bob123> okay will check (notes: dynamic container file)
[10:27] <miha> Noob: if you want to clean grub and use windows loader http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013
[10:27] <Noob> ActionParsnip: I don't know.
[10:28] <miha> Noob: if that's what you want, read this
[10:28] <joeyjones_> bob123: otherwise you'd have a set space :p
[10:28] <bob123> yah it's just my spreedsheets have everything in em and I don't see any open office method to encrypt hrm
[10:28] <Noob> I don't have the install disk for Vista.
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Noob: the disk has a small section of disk called the boot sector, its got just enough space to store where and what the disk is to startup
[10:28] <bob123> joeyjones, ah good to know :)
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> Noob: removing linux or windows for that matter does not remove this information
[10:29] <miha> Noob: rescue disk perhaps?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Noob: the info you have removed is the configuration and files that the bootloader expects when it gets launched
[10:29] <miha> all you need is this command fdisk /mbr
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> Noob: so you get error 15
[10:29] <joeyjones_> man this was a long update...
[10:29] <joeyjones_> 237 items upgraded
[10:29] <Noob> ActionParsnip: Will SuperGrub fix this?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> miha: not to get windows bootloader back on the disk instead of grub
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Noob: if supergrub can see youor windows partition and reprogram it to boot from the windows partition, then yes
[10:30] <miha> ActionParsnip: well windows by default installs on both MBR and partition, if you have valid windows partition, you just need to overwrite MBR
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> Noob: i havent used supergrub before
[10:30] <Noob> I don't care what bootloader I have, as long as I can get back in to Vista like I did BEFORE I got rid of Ubuntu. As long as it works, I don't care.
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> miha: thats where the issue is, its a store bouht system with a garbage recovery cd
[10:30] <miha> oh
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> miha: yeah, you are now up to speed :)
[10:31] <joeyjones_> lol
[10:31] <Noob> My dad's back, so he should be able to burn SuperGrub for me.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> Noob: you could always create a small partition for /boot which your system should be ale to use, then boot to windows
[10:31] <miha> ActionParsnip: :)
[10:31] <Noob> If that doesn't work, the computer's going out of the window.
[10:32] <miha> ActionParsnip: what about just command line at grub prompt?
[10:32] <vendata> does anybody knows bout checking the usb port for the phone connected with hardy
[10:32] <vendata> ?????????????????
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> Noob: personally I think /boot should be a seperate partition, as well as /home
[10:32] <Noob> Ubuntu won't read the disk to install, just to run off of it.
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> miha: if you can advise Noob, go for it
[10:33] <Moult> what can you recommend for a good calendar application?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> Moult: theres a mozilla app
[10:33] <miha> Noob: http://www.linuxselfhelp.com/gnu/grub/html_chapter/grub_4.html
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> !info sunbird
[10:33] <miha> if you get grub prompt, either from hard disk or from ubuntu live cd
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> Moult: sunbird dude
[10:34] <miha> take a look at these commands for Windows... you can tell grub to continue with loading another loader.. windows one
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> !info sunbird | Moult
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> 23mb, yikes
[10:34] <miha> Noob: that should get you to windows, then just fdisk /mbr there and you clean grub
[10:35] <warloc_> hey all, Excuse my n00bness, what is the eequivilent of "connect to server"(gnome) in xubuntu
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: what sort of server and define "connect"
[10:35] <Moult> ActionParsnip: hmm, checking.
[10:35] <miha> Noob: rootnoverify, chainloader... those things
[10:35] <warloc_> i wonna connect to an ftp server (with login)
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> !ftp | warloc_
[10:36] <Slart_> warloc_: places, connect to server
[10:36] <warloc_> i'll look again:P
[10:36] <warloc_> thnx anyway
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: you can freely install the gnome app you used before
[10:36] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: i'd suggest a client
[10:36] <warloc_> which client
[10:36] <warloc_> ?
[10:37] <phyburn> is 8.10 the best version of ubuntu for netbooks? I seem to have trouble trying to install it on a Acer aspire one.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> warloc_: filezilla is ok
[10:37] <warloc_> ok
[10:37] <phyburn> the netinstall fails to download packages =(
[10:37] <warloc_> ill have a look
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: there is no best, only whats best for you
[10:37] <Slart_> warloc_: ah.. my bad.. I misunderstood.. hang on.. I'll check where xubuntu has that option
[10:37] <warloc_> ofcouse
[10:37] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, im just looking for what version will install fast and easy
[10:38] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, im currently getting a lot of "failed to download blhe errors"
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: xubuntu is smal footprinted
[10:38] <phyburn> but its able to download some packages
[10:38] <Bodsda> Hi, how can i add the   nm-applet     to a new panel? its not in the 'add to panel' list
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: is the web connection ok?
[10:38] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, yeah its fine im just it not. Its able to download some packages but others its not able to
[10:38] <gizmo_> how to detech spy camera using ubuntu?
[10:39] <Slart_> gizmo_: you're going to have to explain a bit more
[10:39] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: maybe the repo selected is bad, try powering off your router for 30 seconds
[10:39] <gizmo_> Slart_, i want to know how to detech spy camera using ubuntu?
[10:39] <phyburn> ive tried two reps now =(
[10:39] <Slart_> gizmo_: that's repeating, not explaining
[10:39] <phyburn> I cant switch off the router to many people connected to it
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: did you md5check the cd you are installing with as well as verify the disk is correct
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: it may be needed
[10:40] <phyburn> its on a usb stick
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: did you check the iso before you put it on the usb?
[10:40] <phyburn> I could try and re-install the thumb drive
[10:40] <gizmo_> Slart_, if there is a camera in the house..how im going to detech it..means how im going to know if there is spy camera in the house..
[10:40] <phyburn> Im using Unetbootin
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: is whatever bootable media you are using consistant with the original file using MD5 checksumming
[10:41] <Slart_> gizmo_: I would suggest looking for it.. with your eyes..ubuntu won't be able to help you
[10:41] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, I'm sure Unetbootin checked the MD5sum
[10:41] <Bodsda> Hi, how can i add the   nm-applet     to a new panel? its not in the 'add to panel' list
[10:41] <gizmo_> Slart_, it an hidden camera..how to use with eyes..maybe computer would help
[10:42] <Slart_> Bodsda: it's not a panel-applet.. it's a regular application.. you'll have to run it from a terminal
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: then all i can suugest is the router restart
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: how many users will it affect?
[10:42] <Slart_> gizmo_: nope.. you've seen to many bad spy movies
[10:42] <bullgard4> /boot/grub/menu.lst enthält die Zeile: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-23-generic root=UUID=c6d71d8c-3f39-4bba-92e1-15dedd61a96f ro single." Where is described the parameter 'single'?
[10:42] <Bodsda> Slart_, ok, so how could i make sure it connects to the correct panel?
[10:42] <simono_> phyburn: can't you try another mirror?
[10:43] <bullgard4> /boot/grub/menu.lst includes a line: "kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.24-23-generic root=UUID=c6d71d8c-3f39-4bba-92e1-15dedd61a96f ro single." Where is described the parameter 'single'?
[10:43] <gizmo_> Slart_, can i pm u?
[10:43] <Slart_> Bodsda: it won't end up on the panel, as such.. it will end up in the notification area.. the same place your im icon ends up.. or skype icon etc
[10:44] <Slart_> gizmo_: sure
[10:44] <ActionParsnip>  bullgard4: sounds like its going to be a single user mode
[10:44] <Bodsda> Slart_, and i can add a 'notification area' -- makes sense, thanks a lot Slart_
[10:44] <Slart_> Bodsda: you're welcome
[10:44] <Bodsda> :)
[10:44] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, a lot of gamers living here they would have my head if they got DCed =p
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: or runlevel 1
[10:44] <Gumby> hi all.  after installing intrepid I can no longer boot into windows (quick kernel dump them reboot).  I've considered running the xp recovery however the XP install disk can no longer see any partitions.  Does anyone know if this happens often when using the partitioner in intrepid?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: just do it sneaky and say the connection must have died, home connections have lame SLAs
[10:45] <bullgard4> ActionParsnip: I could agree with you. And where is this described?
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> bullgard4: i used www.ask.com to search, kernel boot options single
[10:46] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, lol ill just throw fedora on it
[10:46] <Slart_> Gumby: nope.. not that I know, at least
[10:46] <phyburn> anything is better than opensuse
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: or try selecting mirrors from a different place
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: suse is ok, it has its uses
[10:47] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, I did already. I only have a few hours till this netbook needs to be installed and dtf
[10:47] <vendata> how to find the usb port assigned to the phone?
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> vendata: lsusb
[10:47] <Gumby> Slart: hrm.  thats no good.  I've got some major issues then
[10:47] <sue> So, I mistakely installed ubuntu 64 bit, is there an easy way to revert to 32?
[10:47] <Slart_> sue: nope.. you'll have to reinstall
[10:47] <gaintsura> isn't there a way to do something similar in ubuntu as yum --what-provides ifconfig on apt?
[10:47] <Bodsda> sue, reinstall
[10:48] <vendata> well i've checked the lsusb output
[10:48] <Slart_> gaintsura: try apt-file
[10:48] <vendata> but i couldn't figure out what will be the port is?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: you could try a different lan cable
[10:48] <sue> bodsa, download the cd image all over again?!
[10:48] <Slart_> sue: but 64 bit isn't so bad.. unless you've got some special problem with it
[10:48] <sue> Well, it's for my mom..
[10:48] <gaintsura> Slart_: nothing any other idea?
[10:48] <ActionParsnip> sue: yes, or use a minimal cd ~10Mb to install via the web what you need
[10:48] <vendata> like what i've seen is: Bus 004 Device 004: ID 0bb4:0b0c High Tech Computer Corp."
[10:48] <sue> I don't want it to be too hard.
[10:49] <vendata> so what's the port in it?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> vendata: then websearch the id, see what comes up
[10:49] <vendata> ok
[10:49] <Slart_> sue: how long did it take you to notice you were using 64 bit?
[10:49] <ActionParsnip> vendata: 004 is my gues
[10:49] <vendata> hmmm
[10:49] <sue> Slart, after I installed, and made a lot of things work :P
[10:50] <Slart_> sue: because I don't think an ordinary user would notice.. everything looks the same..
[10:50] <sue> Yes, but, there are compatibility issues with programs right?
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> sue: none at all, you can even run 32bit apps under 64bit with ia32libs
[10:51] <Slart_> sue: nothing that I've noticed.. flash might be the only thing but that has been fixed
[10:51] <ActionParsnip> java can be a pain but theres icedtea for that :)
[10:52] <sue> I'm having trouble with skype, that's all at the monet
[10:52] <sue> *moment
[10:52] <miha> ActionParsnip: you mean ubuntu's choice of 'gcj' as primary java... makes problems yes
[10:52] <marko> can someone please give me a hand? ive been trying to install adobe flash for ubuntu 8.10 and downloaded the .deb file but when i try to run it it keeps saying Error: wrong architecture 'i386'
[10:52] <miha> ActionParsnip: i'm java developer and only java is sun's java
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> sue: Install ia32libs then forcefully install skpe i386
[10:52] <Slart_> sue: can't really remember how I installed skype.. I might even be using a 32 bit skype client.. not sure..
[10:53] <epicfail101> #aioc
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> miha: i'm a casual system user and server admin, as long as my java stuff turns up i'm smiley
[10:53] <Slart_> sue: as I said.. it looks the same.. I would basically have to run "file" on the executable to find out
[10:53] <miha> ActionParsnip: :)
[10:53] <simono_> marko: download the amd64 version of flash
[10:53] <joeyjones_> any ideas how to map extra keys?
[10:54] <joeyjones_> cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:54] <marko> thanks simono
[10:54] <joeyjones_> oops
[10:54] <joeyjones_> my laptop kb ahs a euro and dollar key
[10:54] <oCean_> marko: use apt-get to install the package
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | joeyjones
[10:54] <marko> oCean_ how do i do that? sorry, im a total newbie
[10:54]  * ActionParsnip thinks fluxbox shortcut keys are waaay more configurable
[10:54] <marko> can u tell me the exact command to type into terminal?
[10:54] <sue> actionparsnip, how do I install ia32 libs?
[10:55] <joeyjones_> ActionParsnip: i'm looking to map keys to symbols, not actions.
[10:55] <simono_> marko: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:55] <oCean_> marko: ok. You should read up on how to install/remove (software)packages. For this flash thing you should "sudo apt-get install adobe-flashplugin"
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> sue: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[10:55] <tv7497> guys what is the default font of document font
[10:56] <simono_> oCean_: actually it's flashplugin-nonfree
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> stupid pidgin client
[10:57] <oCean_> simono_: indeed. That's the installer. marko use "flashplugin-nonfree" , that'll install the adobe thing
[10:57] <oCean_> marko: see next link for adding/removing software: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/add-applications/C/index.html
[10:57] <marko> thanks oCean and simono_ much appreciated
[10:57] <quibbler> joeyjones: right click on the panel add Character Palette
[10:57] <marko> cheers mate
[10:58] <sue> Ok, also I want all the Flash and Java stuff to work, so my mom won't have any trouble browsing the internet, how would I get all that installed quickly
[10:58] <sue> ?
[10:58] <michelle_> i have a problem with thunderbird crashing if it comes accross any tahoma fonts in emails - have followed & installed Tahoma and tahomebd re howto's etc and they work in ooffice, but thunderbird still crashes :/     anyone know if theres a way around???
[10:58] <simono_> sue: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:58] <tv7497> i have messed up with my fonts could somebody help me with default font in their appearance preferences could you name what was the default font for documents
[10:58] <simono_> sue: or just visit a flash site and use the plugin finder
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> simono_: if you get no flas after installing flashplugin-nonfree, try downloading the linux tar.gz from adobes site and unzipping it to ~/.mozilla/plugins (you will need to make the folder)
[10:58] <Slart_> michelle_: do you get some kind of error message if you start thunderbird in a terminal?
[10:58] <sue> simono, thatnks
[10:58] <drdozer> can I have an invite to #ubuntu-2? I'm having fun with Jaunty
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> simono_: then kill all firefoxes
[10:59] <faderhval> hi people, was wondering i've mounted my ntfs partitions and the icons appear on my desktop how ever i am unable to rename them the option is faded anyway to do this in terminal??
[10:59] <Slart_> drdozer: I think #ubuntu-2 is forwarded to this channel
[10:59] <sue> Actionparsnip, after installing ai3libs, it still won't install Skype i386.
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: did you mount it with ntfs3g and did you mount it so users can write to the partition?
[10:59] <drdozer> Slart_ ok
[11:00] <michelle_> yep, get "(gecko:8017): Pango-WARNING **: failed to create cairo scaled font, expect ugly output. the offending font is 'Tahoma Bold 9.75'
[11:00] <michelle_> " Slart_
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> sue: you need to use a big stick
[11:00] <Slart_> drdozer: do you get some kind of error message when you try joining it?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> sue: sudo dpkg --force-all -i <skype deb file>
[11:00] <simono_> sue: Flashplayer for 64Bit ist here http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html and then do what ActionParsnip told (move libflashplayer.so to /.mozilla/plugins)
[11:00] <drdozer> Slart_ yes - it tells me I have to be invited to join :D
[11:00] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: no i intentionally did not use the user option in fstab
[11:00] <michelle_> Slart_ you get that^^^
[11:00] <faderhval> and yes i used ntfs-3g
[11:00] <Slart_> michelle_: yup
[11:00] <joeyjones_> any ideas how to map extra keys?
[11:01] <joeyjones_> my laptop kb ahs a euro and dollar key
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: then to rename is to write, so you will need 'sudo mv' to rename
[11:01] <marko> i just wanna ask. i have a 64-bit intel core 2 duo processor so i installed the 64 bit version of ubuntu...but it seems to be for amd64...did i install the wrong version for my computer?
[11:01] <Slart_> !irc
[11:01] <Slart_> drdozer: you didn't mean #ubuntu+1?
[11:01] <miha> joeyjones_: i cant find an ubuntu specific instructions, but take a look at http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Extra_Keyboard_Keys_in_Xorg
[11:02] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: hmm.. i used the rw option as far i understood the user/nouser is only to ensure that only root kan mount/umount?
[11:02] <michelle_> Slart_ i googled it, but just seem to find "install tahoma" etc...
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> marko: its fine, its for a 64bit cpu so its correct, its just a name. youo arent the first to ask
[11:02] <simono_> marko: no you have the right one. amd64 is misleading name
[11:02]  * michelle_ is frustrated 
[11:02] <marko> oh ok, thanks guys
[11:02] <TuxSympathiser> Am I right in saying an xorg panic would not be a fault with a kernel module but rather an application and/or process higher up?
[11:02] <simono_> marko: x86-64 is a better name
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: only root can mount, if you dont have correct acces for standard users they will not be able to write data and sudo will be needed, also the written files will be owned by root
[11:03] <drdozer> whatever - I was wondering how I could get the color scheme altered so that I can actually read notification texts
[11:03] <faderhval> so i have misunderstood the meaning of user/nouser and the easy way is to correct fstab :)
[11:04] <drdozer> under kde on Jaunty, it seems to be using some sort of embossed charcole on black
[11:04] <miha> drdozer: System/Preferences/Theme
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: yeah i would, theres a billion guides on it
[11:04] <miha> drdozer: oh kde, sorry, that's for gnome
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: try: mount usb user writable
[11:04] <faderhval> was following this http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[11:04] <Slart_> michelle_: seems there are other people having the same problems but with other fonts
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: http://www.hafenscher.net/wiki/index.php?page=Mount_USB_stick_read_and_writable_for_users
[11:05] <Slart_> michelle_: you can uncheck the "allow messages to use other fonts" to avoid it... but the bug will still be there
[11:05] <faderhval> not an USB stick im mounting ;)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: haha the amount of folks that say that
[11:06] <faderhval> explain? :P
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: a partition is a prtiion, be it usb, firewire or internal
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: you are mounting the partition, only the kernel needs to know how it is pysically connected, mount doesnt care, neither do you
[11:07] <faderhval> i am aware but as a fairly new linux user you would never know if theres a special option for it :)
[11:07] <sue> actionparsnip ok, got it installed, but it still needs libqt4-core and gui, how should I go about that? (sorry for all these newbie questions)
[11:08] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: Anyways thank you  for the explanation :)
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> sue: np, just apt-get install them
[11:08] <michelle_> Slart -well, not a fix - but your a diamond :) --- unchecking worked. Top searching techniques ;) --- thanks
[11:08] <phyburn> ActionParsnip, wtf I'm a noob I can just use the normal install ISO i dont need to use the netinstall I thought the normal iso was bigger than a gig! ^^
[11:08] <sue> apt-get, right, thanks
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: np man, i see why folks ask so i explain, the kernel is doing a LOT of work to make it abstracted like that
[11:08] <Slart_> michelle_: you're welcome
[11:08] <michelle_> :D
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: no the cd iso is ~700Mb
[11:09] <phyburn> dont care! its under a gig =p
[11:09] <phyburn> my little flash is only 900mb
[11:09] <milligan_> Setting up ekiga (2.0.12-0ubuntu5) usr/share/gconf/schemas/ekiga.schemas:20362: parser error : Opening and ending tag mismatch: long line 20362 <-- Eeep. Getting this error no matter what I do, be it apt-get remove --purge ekiga or whatever. How can I fix? Problem started after updating from 8.04 to 8.10 Desktop.
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> phyburn: haha nice
[11:10] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: i changed the user option but im still unable to rename them?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: check the link, the UID 1000 is what you will need to add to give all users accee
[11:12] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: so i add the -o uid=1000 after the mount point option?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: you dont put -o  its assumed as its the last part of the line
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: -o is what you use in a command line mount, not fstab
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: if you read your other fstab entrys, none of them have -o
[11:14] <amalji> \join bash
[11:15] <nanang> exit
[11:15] <imaginativeone> how do I burn from a bin/cue file?
[11:15] <mohshami> hi guys, I'm trying to capture some output from an interactive python shell, I thought tee would do it like in mysql client, but it didn't work, anybody knows how to do this? I've been googling all morning and can't seem to find it
[11:15] <miha> milligan_: might be a bug, like this one https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ekiga/+bug/237903
[11:15] <Winball> Anyone tried running RA3 on Ubuntu ? Im strugling to mount the ra3.iso
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: you can use bchunk to convert to iso
[11:16] <imaginativeone> can I use PowerISO?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: no need, linux has mount which is more powerful
[11:16] <milligan_> miha, yep.. saw that site .. doesn't provide a fix though :-\
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: if you bchunk to make an iso you can burn it or mount it useing the loop device
[11:16] <miha> milligan_: you have choice to reopen it and paste your own problem:)
[11:17] <miha> milligan_: somebody must do it
[11:17] <imaginativeone> do I need to apt-get install bchunk?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> Winball: sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mount/point
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> imaginativeone: yes
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !info bchunk
[11:17] <Winball> sudo mount rld-ra3.iso /home/winball/RA3/ -t iso9660 -o loop, only asks me to check dmesg | tail
[11:18] <tv7497> guys dont we have a cario dock for x64 arch
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> Winball: does the RA3 folder exist?
[11:18] <Winball> ActionParsnip: Yes. I have also tried using GUI, like gnome-mount and gISOmount
[11:18] <Winball> ActionParsnip: There is no size-restriction to mount an .iso is there ?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: are you on intrepid?
[11:19] <oCean_> milligan_: have you tried opening up the file (in editor) and checking if there is a typo?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Winball: none at all, you can mount a 100Tb iso if you wanted
[11:19] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: yes sir x64 intrepid
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/graphics/cairo-dock
[11:19] <milligan_> oCean_, to be honest, it looks completly messed up.
[11:20] <milligan_> oCean_, to an extent that the people maintaining it must have had some kind of braindamage to include it in a release.
[11:20] <Spark_rd2> hi there
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Winball: try making it a simpler mount: sudo mount -o loop ./rld-ra3.iso ~/RA3
[11:21] <milligan_> miha, are you running on 8.10 ?
[11:21] <miha> milligan_: yes
[11:21] <oCean_> milligan_: ghehe.. ok. However the error seems to be that there is a line with an opening tag, but not a corresponding closing tag. Can you see if that is really the case?
[11:21] <milligan_> miha, could you maybe e-mail me your file, so I could test and see if I can fix it ?
[11:21] <miha> sure
[11:21] <Winball> ActionParsnip: <3
[11:22] <miha> moment
[11:22] <milligan_> miha, milligan@multigan.com
[11:22] <milligan_> oCean_, I'll look into it.
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Winball: KISS
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> Winball: keep it simple stupid :D
[11:22] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: http://paradoxxx.zero.free.fr/cairo-dock-deb-64bit/ sir can i tr this sir ?
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: you dont need to refer to me as sir
[11:22] <Nikon> how to configure secundary dvd drive on ubuntu ?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: just download whichever debs you need and use sudo dpkg -i to install them all
[11:23] <oCean_> milligan_: I did not upgrade, but fresh 8.10 install. Here line 20362 is "<long>Posisi jendela utama pada layar</long>
[11:23] <Winball> ActionParsnip: It's probably because it wasn't ISO-9660.
[11:23] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: thanks :)
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> Winball: it gets detected via the file command which will say what its using
[11:24] <milligan_> oCean_, yeah. that line makes no sense.
[11:24] <milligan_> oCean_, yours seems sane .. mine is completely messed up.
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Winball: detected settings in mounts are usually ok
[11:24] <milligan_> oCean_, <locale name="id"><short>Posisi jendela utama pada layar</short><long>Posisi jendela utama pada layar</cale> <- See what I mean? How the hell did that make it to a release?
[11:25] <oCean_> milligan_: ghehe.. that's not sane.. that's insane
[11:25] <milligan_> oCean_, my point exactly :)
[11:25] <oCean_> milligan_: that may be not the only messed-up line. I understand you get a sane file mailed?
[11:26] <miha> milligan_: http://www.wolfey.si/tmp/ekiga.schemas
[11:26] <miha> that's mine and ekiga works, although i dont use it
[11:26] <milligan_> miha, cheers
[11:26] <miha> just no error at whizzard
[11:26] <oCean_> milligan_: miha ah, ok. See if that works
[11:27] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: apparently i can read/write to the file but im still unable to rename the icons on the desktop
[11:27] <miha> milligan_: now refresh, just completed ftping, my line is slow
[11:27] <miha> :(
[11:27] <milligan_> Ah, hehe.
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: maybe they have special permissions set in AD
[11:27] <milligan_> miha, looks like it might be working. I got a lot less errors now.
[11:27] <miha> hehe
[11:28] <milligan_> (When using an uncomplete file)
[11:28] <miha> hehe
[11:28] <oCean_> less is good :)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: ntfs-3g is a best effort as ntfs is proprietary so files with weird permissions et on them will not be edittable but will be readable
[11:28] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: how do i run it ? cario -dock ?
[11:28] <Nom-> bleh i'm the only person i know who can consistently crash bash using perl one-liners
[11:28] <milligan_> Yep, worked :D
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: type cai then press tab
[11:28] <miha> milligan_: i suspect this apt-get --purge just doesnt clean everything
[11:28] <alex_sleiborg> Hi. How do i downgrade my libtool?
[11:28] <miha> milligan_: but i'm  not expert on this
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> alex_sleiborg: you could uninstall one then install the older one
[11:29] <milligan_> miha, it was generating the error no matter what I did ..
[11:29] <faderhval> ActionParsnip: i am able to write to the drives as well only problem is the icon names wierdly enough
[11:29] <milligan_> apt was broken pretty much.
[11:29] <miha> milligan_: i had problems with samba reinstall, then someone reminded me to --purge samba-common too
[11:29] <miha> not just samba
[11:29] <Spark_rd2> please guys i'm a new in linux and I heard somebody talking about cairo
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: oh yes you can do that but some files you wont be able to edit due to ntfs permissions
[11:29] <Spark_rd2> what is it ?
[11:30] <foolish_> hey
[11:30] <oCean_> Spark_rd2: have you tried google?
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: if the file names are weird, you can add more mount info to use special languages for the file names to display special characters better
[11:30] <foolish_> need some help over here
[11:30] <milligan_> Anyway, looks to be working fine now. miha, maybe you could post a fix on the forumlink you gave me? (I don't have an account there)
[11:30] <miha> milligan_: it's not fix, it's directly from repository, proposed perhaps, though
[11:31] <faderhval> ActionParsnip:  they are not wierd just annoying one is "Local Disc" the other is "Local disk" :)
[11:31] <remoteCTR1> err... what do i do with a process that i can't even kill -9 ???
[11:31] <Spark_rd2> yes but find only some page explaining how to set it up
[11:31] <miha> milligan_: i just enabled 'proposed' for my webcam stuff then i found out it's differnet issue
[11:31] <oCean_> Spark_rd2: http://cairographics.org/
[11:32] <Spark_rd2> ok
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> faderhval: then id boot to the OS on the ntfs (if there is one, and rename them)
[11:36] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: how do i keep on running it if i close the terminal t goes off :(
[11:36] <miha> milligan_: did you try amsn lately.. it does audio chat too now :)
[11:36] <miha> milligan_: the svn version
[11:36] <milligan_> oh, cool. This is my work machine, so I didn't really mess about with it .. but I suppose I could give it a whack :)
[11:37] <miha> milligan_: http://www.amsn-project.net/wiki/Farsight
[11:37] <miha> some extra libs and audio works
[11:37] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: if exists, killing it's parent might help
[11:37] <milligan_> looks like a bit of work :)
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: add it to your startup and it will run at boot
[11:38] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: how do i determine a parent?
[11:38] <tv7497> ActionParsnip: oh thanks
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> tv7497: easiest way
[11:38] <ott0> the brightness controls on my laptop no longer work. it's probably because of something that was upgraded right?
[11:38] <Spark_rd2> thx Ocean
[11:38] <Spark_rd2> ;)
[11:38] <miha> milligan_: not too much, i wrote my slovenian instructions with just necessary stuff http://sponka.net/AMSN_slika_in_zvok#Razvojna_razli.C4.8Dica_aMSN_in_knji.C5.BEnice i guess you could ignore comments and just try those commands
[11:38] <ott0> screen brightness used to work fine
[11:39] <miha> milligan_: amsn wiki has more detailed explanation
[11:39] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: while doing "ps -ef | grep commandname" the 2nd field is pid, the 3rd field is parent pid. But beware, parent process might have started other processes...
[11:39] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: well those should be terinated if i terminate the parent, right?
[11:39] <Spark_rd2> Ocean: I find a good tuto that's explain how to set it up on my distro
[11:40] <rikil> hello
[11:40] <rikil> is there  any one to help me?
[11:40] <Spark_rd2> hello rikil
[11:40] <miha> rikil: ask your question, try to be clear. if you get no answer in few minutes, try posting it again
[11:40] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: indeed. That would kill all childprocesses
[11:40] <rikil> ya
[11:40] <rikil> i am havinfg pc with amd sempron 1100
[11:40] <rikil> with 1 gb ram ddr2
[11:41] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: well lets see then if the parren process happens to gdm or so:D
[11:41] <rikil> 160 gb hd
[11:41] <rikil> and with nvidia gfx card
[11:41] <rikil> now prob is that
[11:41] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: yes, yes... take caution while killing :-)
[11:41] <rikil> i installed nvidia drivers
[11:41] <rikil> in ubuntu
[11:41] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: well it didnt do anything at all:-/
[11:42] <remoteCTR1> guess i need to reboot this thing
[11:42] <oCean_> rikil: please try to explain your problem all in one line.
[11:42] <rikil> nya
[11:42] <rikil> sure
[11:42] <rikil> So get it till now
[11:42] <rikil> ?
[11:42] <remoteCTR1> yeah sure
[11:42] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: yes, that's the final option indeed.
[11:42] <rikil> now  icant chage my screen resolution lessthan 640 and I cant mount my hard drive
[11:43] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: ive been working with linux for years now but i never had that one:D
[11:43] <rikil> but i got
[11:43] <rikil> now what to do??
[11:43] <remoteCTR1> rikil: why would you wanna change to a resolution less than 640*480?
[11:43] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: well, you might wait and sit it out... while waiting, renice the process so it's not causing problems for other processes
[11:43] <oCean_> !enter | rikil
[11:44] <rikil> sorry it is not going more than it
[11:44] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: renice?
[11:44] <Baba_B00ie> and why would ya want 640x480 ?
[11:44] <rikil> it is not going more than 640*480
[11:44] <remoteCTR1> rikil: so mean higher not lower than 640*480?
[11:44] <remoteCTR1> kk
[11:44] <rikil> ya
[11:44] <oCean_> remoteCTR1: yes, nice is a way to start process in lower or higher priority. Renice is a way to ehrm.. renice a running process
[11:44] <SxNDave> rikil. I had the same yesterday. I had to set it by running Nvidia x server settings as admin then restarting X
[11:45] <remoteCTR1> rikil: theres a file /etc/X11/xorg.conf there you do the settings for graphics resolution, see man xorg.conf for details
[11:45] <rikil> can u expalin it bit in detail as i am new at ubuntu
[11:45] <remoteCTR1> oCean_: humm i guess i will do the reboot later on
[11:46] <remoteCTR1> rikil: xorg.conf is a configuration file as the file ending suggests
[11:46] <Manix> I got a bit of a problem here if someone can help
[11:46] <rikil> ok and what about that i cant mount my drives
[11:46] <Manix> I have 3 HDs setup in RAID5 with Vista installed on them
[11:46] <remoteCTR1> rikil: errr wait a sec
[11:46] <rikil> sure
[11:46] <remoteCTR1> rikil: did you say you have an nvidia card?
[11:46] <rikil> ya
[11:47] <Manix> so I decided I wanted to try and install ubuntu as well
[11:47] <remoteCTR1> rikil: gosh sorry i mislead you, you need to install a program called nvidia-settings, to do so type sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings to a console
[11:47] <Manix> so I Shrunk a portion of the HD and tried to install ubtunu on it now I get the message GRUB Error 21 when booting
[11:48] <rikil> no prob
[11:48] <miha> Manix: googling error shows http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62717
[11:50] <remoteCTR1> rikil: got it installed?
[11:50] <rikil> sorry but at present i am using XP
[11:50] <rikil> i will have to reboot
[11:50] <bigbrova2> .
[11:51] <Manix> I've looked around on the search results already... none of them have 3 Hds setup in Raid5 which is kind of an issue no?
[11:55] <oCean_> Manix: it's probably because in the grub config the disk (or partition) -to-boot-from is not spcecified correctly. You'll have to edit the /boot/grub/menu.lst file. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto
[11:56] <Manix> Does that link show me how to edit it?
[11:57] <SlimeyPete> Manix: "sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst" or "gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst"
[11:57] <carpii_> i want to move /var/log on to a new drive. Whats involved in doing this?  Im thinking of copying the directory, then editing fstab, then issuing a mount -a
[11:57] <oCean_> Manix: yes. it's a good place to start. There are several links pointing to solutions/howto's for various grub related problems
[11:57] <Manix> The only way for me to boot right now is using the ubuntu CD
[11:57] <sriramoman> hello guys, how do i install xp in my machine with ubuntu already installed, i mean is there anyway to install grub after xp is installed with the live cd?
[11:59] <davidv> Hello.  Had a bit of a look around but couldn't find specific info: Is it possible to mirror 8.04.1 instead of 8.04.2?
[11:59] <oCean_> carpii_: while running os, various files in /var/log are in use. You should reboot to let the change have full effect.
[12:00] <davidv> Not CD images, but archive (sans -updates and -security).  Or, is 8.04.1 only a CD-image concept?
[12:01] <carpii_> oCean, ok thanks. Its not a problem to move the files while theyre in use though?
[12:01] <carpii_> so long as i reboot afterwards
[12:01] <oCean_> carpii_: moving to another filesystem would be a problem
[12:01] <break19> Hey.. where does ubuntu keep it's "non partition" mount info? there's no /proc entry in fstab - but it's obviously mounted.. :p
[12:02] <carpii_> hm, ive added a new drive for performance reasons. I dont mind if this results in some log files not being complete
[12:02] <carpii_> break, try /etc/mtab ?
[12:02] <break19> carpii_: mtab only shows whats already mounted.
[12:02] <break19> I want to know how ubuntu knows what to mount and where, at boot..
[12:02] <carpii_> you said its already mounted
[12:02] <carpii_> oic
[12:02] <break19> carpii_: well. duh.. yea.. it is.. unless I boot my own kernel.
[12:03] <erUSUL> !fstab | break19
[12:03] <carpii_> its normal for proc to be in fstab i think
[12:03] <carpii_> i dont know where else it would be
[12:03] <break19> its not in there tho.
[12:03] <Techna> Does anyone know why one of my application windows is grey and not responding to my input, and more importantly, how can I fix that?
[12:03] <oCean_> break, there is a proc entry in my fstab
[12:03] <break19> thats what I'm getting at.
[12:04] <break19> oCean_: lucky you.. there's not one in mine.. and thats how it was installed.
[12:04] <shauno> break19: proc should be in fstab - it is on all mine.  but check /etc/init.d/mount*, some of the special fs are handled by bootscripts now
[12:04] <erUSUL> Techna: it has crashed or is locked... kill the app or use xkill
[12:04] <Techna> :(
[12:04] <oCean_> break19: the line does not start ^/proc but ^proc
[12:04] <Techna> that's what I thought
[12:04] <break19> shauno: see, the problem is.. pata_via module is bad bad bad.. and I wanna go back to the via_82xx module..
[12:05] <binarymutant> will intrepid's dpkg version be updated? or will the current version just get security updates?
[12:05] <break19> and when I do, my system's drive names change.. and root gets mounted, but not any of the special filesystems
[12:05] <Techna> To whom do I direct suggestions for improving this channel?
[12:05] <carpii_> break, if proc isnt in your fstab. nothings telling it to mount it
[12:05] <break19> carpii_: then how is it mounted :)
[12:05] <erUSUL> Techna: maybe you can start with some of the ops or the launchpad page
[12:06] <break19> carpii_: which was my question.
[12:06] <erUSUL> Techna: #ubuntu-ops
[12:06] <Techna> thank you
[12:06] <oCean_> !patience | Techna
[12:06] <oCean_> Techna: try #ubuntu-ops if you have such suggestions
[12:07] <Techna> oCean_: don't make assumptions.
[12:07] <carpii_> break, i dont know. shauno might be on to something. check /etc/init.d/mount*
[12:07] <Manix> I can't figure out how I get to a point where I can edit the menu.lst file
[12:07] <shauno> my system has something in /etc/init.d/mountkernfs.sh:       # Mount proc filesystem on /proc (and following lines)
[12:08] <binarymutant> Manix, gksu gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[12:08] <erUSUL> Manix: from a livecd you can mount the ubuntu partition and edit the file (if you can not boot into the system)
[12:08] <break19> shauno: ok.. why does ubuntu have to do it that way... meh
[12:09] <shauno> no idea man. but in grep I trust :)
[12:09] <erUSUL> binarymutant: the later
[12:10] <binarymutant> erUSUL, thanks for that info :)
[12:10] <erUSUL> binarymutant: no problem
[12:10] <usuario> http:/ubuntu.com
[12:10] <phyburn> how would I disable my swap space?
[12:10] <davidv> erUSUL/Manix: and that's why physical security of servers with a cd-rom drive is important :P
[12:11] <phyburn> it seems to already be commented out in /dev/fstab 0_o
[12:11] <break19> shauno: heh - I guess they want to support old kernels.. but geez.. I dun -want- debugging in my kernel.. and I dun want to use the experimental pata_via driver.... and the standard kernel has them in.
[12:11] <^rumput_kering^> can I give commands to my ubuntu using voice?
[12:11] <break19> phyburn: sudo swapoff -a
[12:12] <phyburn> will that turn it off perminatly?
[12:12] <break19> phyburn: why would you want to do that?
[12:13] <phyburn> cause swap sounds funny and I dont want it
[12:13] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card
[12:13] <phyburn> no lol I have a netbook dont want to waste my SSD
[12:13] <sue> Where can I find drivers?
[12:13] <oCean_> !sound | sue
[12:14] <shal3r> How to install KDE4.2 on Ubuntu 8.10? I added "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main" and installed kde-desktop, but i don`t have kde4 in session tytpe menu.
[12:15] <break19> phyburn: add "NOSWAP" to your boot options
[12:17] <erUSUL> Manix: http://www.daniweb.com/blogs/entry708.html
[12:23] <darth_muzo> Repost: Is it possible to mirror 8.04.1 archive instead of 8.04.2?
[12:24] <_ruben> there are no different mirrors
[12:25] <_ruben> an 8.04.1 mirror would a not-up-to-date mirror
[12:25] <darth_muzo> Thanks _ruben, so if I missed out on mirroring the archive back when 8.04.1 was the only stable LTS, then I can't reproduce it, and I'm forced to move to 8.04.2?
[12:25] <filthpig> Hi all. I installed ubuntu on a Compaq laptop for a friend of mine, but I kept the WinXP recovery partition just in case his daughter (msn-aholic) wanted windows back so she could use the WLM-client.. Now, that has proven true, she does want windows. Grub detected the boot partition and set everything up, and I had testbooted it once before to see that it works, and it did then. However, when I try to boot it now, I get "Error 13: Invalid or u
[12:25] <darth_muzo> Use case: work environment that doesn't want to move off the almost-8.04.1 mirror I created for them a while ago.
[12:26] <namasamaran> yudhi
[12:27] <_ruben> darth_muzo: there's no such thing as a 8.04.1 or 8.04.2 mirror really .. just 8.04 mirror .. which either has all updates (which would make it more or less 8.04.2), or not .. 8.04.1 and 8.04.2 are merely indications of "up-to-date-ness" ;)
[12:27] <bjantscher> hi folks! i need to create a user account (ubuntu server 8.10) that automatically shuts down the system as soon as that very user logs in... i tried to specify /sbin/shutdown (and poweroff and reboot and so on) as the users shell, but it always requires the root user to do that... is there a way to avoid that, so that also an ordinary user may shutdown the system? (don't worry, this is just for a vmware image which starts a
[12:27] <bjantscher> server in the background... the "easy" shutdown is just supposed to be a convenience tool for users to turn of the vmware and the server)
[12:28] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: sudo
[12:29] <bjantscher> gordonjcp: you mean specifying a script as default shell, that invokes "sudo poweroff"?
[12:29] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: yup
[12:30] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: you'll need to add that user to sudoers in a fairly specific way
[12:30] <bjantscher> gordonjcp: the thing is, i don't want this user to login, i just want them to be able to shutdown the machine. what if they hit ctrl-c or whatever... would they end up in the bash, or would they just get back to the login screen again?
[12:31] <darth_muzo> _ruben: OK, so I've been doing some spot inspections of Packages.gz contents, trying to figure out whether if I mirror only "hardy" archive rather than including "hardy-updates" and "hardy-security" archive also, whether I'll just be getting 8.04.0, or 8.04.2.  I remember reading somewhere that 8.04.2 has gcc-4.2.4 instead of -4.2.3, but that's not what I'm seeing in the Pacakges.gz.
[12:32] <gordonjcp> bjantscher: change their shell to /bin/shutdown ?
[12:32] <bastones> Hi. I have an ADVENT 5611 keyboard and sometimes when I type some of the keys dont register, like if I want to type hello it may come back with 'hllo' in any program be it FireFox or Pidgin...I'm running out of options but I really want to keep Ubuntu. It may be a driver issue but I cant find drivers for my ADVENT laptop...
[12:33] <bjantscher> gordonjcp: this is what i tried, but that did not work out as you still need to be root for doing this
[12:33] <DivineOmega> bastones: Sounds like yoyur keys are sticking to be honest, unless it only happens in Ubuntu.
[12:33] <Sivam> hi
[12:33] <bastones> DivineOmega: yep only happens in Ubuntu...no such problem in Windows
[12:34] <Sivam> I am getting following error
[12:34] <DivineOmega> bastones: I've never heard of that problem before
[12:34] <Sivam> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libstdc++6-4.3-dev:
[12:34] <Sivam>  libstdc++6-4.3-dev depends on g++-4.3 (= 4.3.2-1ubuntu11); however:
[12:34] <Sivam>   Package g++-4.3 is not configured yet
[12:34] <FloodBot1> Sivam: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:35] <NicEXE> I need some help with that http://wiibrew.org/wiki/Boot_it (on the point that says: creating compatible filesystems)
[12:35] <bastones> DivineOmega: maybe theres a compatibility issue in 8.10 that hasnt been recognised or fixed ... its annoying me and I'm considering going back to Windows which I really dont want to do
[12:35] <Sivam> I am facing dpkg error : http://paste.ubuntu.com/112740/
[12:35] <Sivam> any suggestion
[12:36] <DivineOmega> bastones: Have you filed a bug on Launchpad?
[12:36] <bastones> well I cant exactly do that if the keys work one time but not another ...
[12:36] <DivineOmega> Sivam: try sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[12:37] <Sivam> DivineOmega: apt-get is disabled
[12:37] <DivineOmega> bastones: You can file it on another system surely?
[12:37] <Sivam> DivineOmega: for me as I can only use dpkg as the machine is not connected to internet
[12:37] <Turkish_b> Isn't there türk
[12:37] <DivineOmega> Sivam: I see.
[12:37] <darth_muzo> Sivam: have you considered using dselect?
[12:38] <Sivam> darth_muzo: how to use it
[12:38] <Sivam> darth_muzo : /tmp# dselect
[12:38] <Sivam> The program 'dselect' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[12:38] <DivineOmega> Sivam:  Try: dkpg-reconfigure packname
[12:39] <Sivam> -su: dkpg-reconfigure: command not found
[12:40] <darth_muzo> Sivam: sounds like a fairly barebones install - how was it installed?
[12:40] <munito> saludos
[12:40] <munito> alguien peude echarme una mano con VirtualBox?
[12:40] <Sivam> seems like some path problem
[12:40] <Sivam> for dkpg
[12:40] <DivineOmega> Sivam: I mispelt it. dpkg reconfigure is correct.
[12:41] <EagleScreen> i would like to view the dependences of a package currently in jaunty, how must I proceed?
[12:41] <ryugi> hi all
[12:41] <_ruben> EagleScreen: http://packages.ubuntu.com would be decent start
[12:42] <ryugi> is 2GB of ram enough for a development machine ?
[12:42] <shal3r> ryugi, yes
[12:42] <EagleScreen> _ruben how do you see the dependences of gtk-qt-engine in http://packages.ubuntu.com/ ??
[12:42] <munito> alguien abla español?
[12:42] <EagleScreen> !spanish | munito
[12:42] <munito> thx
[12:43] <ryugi> ok
[12:43] <Sivam> $ /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libstdc++.so.6 is not installed
[12:44] <Sivam> DivineOmega:  /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: libstdc++.so.6 is not installed
[12:44] <darth_muzo> Sivam: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure g++-4.3
[12:45] <DivineOmega> Sivam: Try it on the package it said was not configured.
[12:45] <Sivam> darth_muzo: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: g++-4.3 is broken or not fully installed
[12:45] <Chousuke> you need to install the libstdc++ package
[12:45] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card, here are my specs http://pastebin.com/m18485dae
[12:45] <miha> i think so to, Chousuke
[12:45] <DivineOmega> Sivam: You need to reeacquire that package.
[12:45] <Sivam> DivineOmega: i have .deb file
[12:45] <Chousuke> use apt!
[12:45] <Chousuke> do not install debs manually
[12:45] <DivineOmega> Sivam: Install that deb.
[12:45] <Sivam> DivineOmega: what I have to do now with that deb
[12:46] <DivineOmega> Chousuke: He has not network access on the machine in question.
[12:46] <Chousuke> use a CD then
[12:46] <_ruben> EagleScreen: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gtk-qt-engine .. apparently there are no dependencies defined
[12:46] <Sivam> DivineOmega: g++-4.3 depends on libstdc++6-4.3-dev (= 4.3.2-1ubuntu11); however:
[12:46] <Sivam> was the output
[12:46] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need to install the libstdc++6-4.3-dev package
[12:46] <NET||abuse> Hi guys.. this is a silly question,, but how do i change my server hosts domain.. at the moment we are officeserverdc.domain.com  where it should be domain.lan for our local domain. how do i get the server switched over, it's a pretty bare setup, I've not started looking at the directory service yet or anything
[12:47] <Chousuke> Sivam: you should get a CD and use APT to install the packages from the CD.
[12:47] <Sivam> Chousuke:  libstdc++6-4.3-dev depends on g++-4.3
[12:47] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need to install them both at the same time.
[12:48] <darth_muzo> Chousuke: Sivam is using dpkg only, since not connected.  As an alternative to that or install from CD, I'm trying to find the doco on using dselect for upgrade/install
[12:48] <Sivam> Chousuke: how
[12:48] <Sivam> Chousuke: how to install both at same time
[12:48] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card, here are my specs (sorry to repeat)    http://pastebin.com/m18485dae
[12:48] <Chousuke> darth_muzo: why dselect? it's just an obsolete alternative to APT
[12:48] <Chousuke> Sivam: dpkg -i gcc.deb libstdc++...deb
[12:49] <Chousuke> Sivam: whatever the filenames are.
[12:49] <NET||abuse> anyone? How do I change my servers domain?
[12:49] <Chousuke> do you need GCC to set up your internet? :/
[12:49] <Sivam> Chousuke: it installs now
[12:49] <Chousuke> because it looks like that should be your priority.
[12:50] <miha> :)
[12:50] <Sivam> Chousuke: but I am unable to find libstdc++.so.6 file
[12:50] <Sivam> Chousuke: in my /usr/lib folder
[12:50] <Chousuke> you also need the libstdc++6 package.
[12:50] <Chousuke> not the -dev, the actual library
[12:51] <miha> Chousuke: if not for my usage of Gentoo, i wouldnt know about libstdc++ :)
[12:51] <miha> Chousuke: gcc upgrade guide for gentoo was very informative:)
[12:51] <Chousuke> I dislike gentoo.
[12:52] <miha> Chousuke: i'm not saying end users should take gentoo. but for novice developer, gentoo forces you to learn some stuff
[12:52] <Sivam> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root     18 2009-02-02 12:32 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 -> libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[12:52] <Sivam> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 829424 2008-05-07 06:12 /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5.0.7
[12:52] <Sivam> there is no libstdc++.so.6
[12:52] <Chousuke> miha: I don't think that matters at all.
[12:52] <Bodsda> !ot | miha : This is not the gentoo channel
[12:53] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need libstdc++6
[12:53] <miha> sorry ok.
[12:53] <Bodsda> thanks :)
[12:53] <darth_muzo> Sivam: Do you know if you downloaded the libstdc++6 package?
[12:53] <Sivam> Chousuke: i installed libstdc++6-dev package
[12:53] <Chousuke> Sivam: there are two versions in the repos.
[12:53] <Chousuke> Sivam: you need the non-dev package as wel
[12:53] <Chousuke> +l
[12:53] <Sivam> Chousuke: libstdc++6-4.3-dev_4.3.2-1ubuntu11_amd64.deb
[12:53] <Chousuke> that's not enough.
[12:53] <Sivam> Chousuke: oh
[12:53] <Chousuke> that's just the headers, not the library itself.
[12:54] <Sivam> Chousuke: thanks
[12:54] <darth_muzo> Sivam: This probably won't help you out of your current spot, but if you can run Synaptic, this may be of use (old link for old distro, but I had a quick look in Synaptic and it still seems relevant): http://beans.seartipy.com/2006/11/03/simple-way-to-update-ubuntu-edgy-with-slowno-internet-connection/
[12:55] <sue> I'm having trouble with my sound card, here are my specs:            http://pastebin.com/m18485dae
[12:55] <ryugi> is there any other drawback in doing linux development in a virtual machine ?
[12:55] <Chousuke> ryugi: "other"?
[12:55] <Chousuke> ryugi: it's not real hardware, but that's it.
[12:56] <miha> ryugi: just make sure you buy extra RAM:)
[12:56] <judgen> Im having the same problem with rhythmbox as yesterday.... https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rhythmbox/+bug/323946 but all music plays... just annoying that dialogue.
[12:56] <judgen> how do i disable it
[12:56] <AdvoWork> hi there, ive got a cdrw installed and so on(factory fitted) but ubuntu isnt picking it, any ideas what i can do/try?
[12:56] <ryugi> ok thanks
[12:56] <darth_muzo> ryugi: compiles can go a bit slower, but that's about it unless you're developing drivers or something.
[12:57] <ryugi> ok
[12:57] <miha> ryugi: and buy RAM for both real and virtual OS to use, or swapping will make it extra slow
[12:57] <Chousuke> yeah, you don't want your virtual machine to swap :)
[12:58] <Chousuke> nor your real machine.
[12:58] <Chousuke> but the virtual machine swapping is worse.
[12:58] <darth_muzo> especially if it's on an SSD ;)
[12:58] <nyaa> I got my laptop to do dual monitors but there's only one wallpaper which is split right down the middle and only one of the monitors (original one) has panels, is there a fix for either of these?
[12:58] <carpii_> what window manager?
[12:59] <nyaa> gnome
[12:59] <carpii_> ok, i dont know then sorry
[12:59] <ryugi> miha:8GB should be eough ?
[12:59] <miha> ryugi: i'm sure:)
[12:59] <Chousuke> ryugi: oh, more than enough :)
[12:59] <dayo_> how do i untar a .gz file? i know for .tar.gz it's: tar xvzf foo.tar.gz
[12:59] <nyaa> its kind of impressive regardless because vista wouldn't do 1400x900 resolution for this second monitor =) but I really wish they both at least had wallpaper
[12:59] <darth_muzo> nyaa: I ended up creating a wide wallpaper by stitching together two single-screen ones in an image edit app.
[13:00] <carpii_> gunzip
[13:00] <ryugi> ok
[13:00] <ryugi> :)
[13:00] <miha> ryugi: i thought in range of 3-4 gb:)
[13:00]  * Chousuke runs a virtual machine without swapping with only 3GB
[13:00] <darth_muzo> nyaa: are they same res?
[13:00] <nyaa> darth muzo not even close to same rez =)  your innovation on this matter is somewhat frightening to me lol
[13:00] <darth_muzo> ryugi: are you running a 64-bit version of ubuntu
[13:00] <miha> darth_muzo: gzip -d file.gz
[13:01] <darth_muzo> nyaa: ! same res == ! my solution
[13:01] <miha> darth_muzo: tar means more than one file, and uses gzip then
[13:01] <nyaa> darth_muzo blast!
[13:01] <oCean_> sue: for me next link was helpful (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845) because I had to add option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[13:01] <oCean_> sue: what does "aplay -l" output?
[13:02] <ryugi> darth_muzo:32 bit version of ubuntu
[13:02] <_2> miha tar is an archiver  i can use compression tools too
[13:03] <bluej> any tiling window manager users here? could you share how you make use of one?
[13:03] <dayo_> carpii,miha: thanks! :-)
[13:03] <_2> s=i=it=
[13:03] <carpii_> np
[13:03] <darth_muzo> dayo_: I think miha's comment was for you - what's the name of the file you're trying to unpack?
[13:03] <[diablo]> Hi, does anyone know where I can set the driver (-D) option in 8.10 please for wpa_supplicant ? I need to ensure it starts with -Dndiswrapper
[13:03] <Kruxer> hiya
[13:04] <dayo_> darth_muzo: README.DB_CONFIG.gz  it worked :-)
[13:04] <sue> oCean: http://pastebin.com/m47f15b18
[13:04] <Kruxer> who can i share files between tow ubuntu systems?I already have a wireless connection and it works ;)
[13:04] <dayo_> Kruxer: scp
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[13:04] <oCean_> sue: that's not aplay -l ..
[13:05] <Kruxer> dayo_, hmmm thanx :)
[13:05] <lorenzosu> on a 15'' LCD at 1280x960 text looks horrible.
[13:05] <dayo_> Kruxer: u're welcome :-)
[13:05] <darth_muzo> ryugi: Server kernel, or desktop kernel?  From which release?  I'm just recalling something about memory limits.
[13:05] <numpszi> I have installed apache2 and php5 module for apache2. Php is not working. If i try to display a php file, the browser wants to download it. What can be the problem?
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> !php
[13:05] <sue> Ocean, sorry..hold on
[13:05] <ryugi> darth_muzo: desktop kernel
[13:05] <numpszi> !php
[13:06] <numpszi> ?
[13:06] <nyaa> lorenzosu : try going to system > preferences > appearance, then the fonts tab and use subpixel smoothing =)
[13:06] <sue> oCean: http://pastebin.com/m3a354a5f
[13:06] <carpii_> apache conf + php = http://www.petefreitag.com/item/516.cfm
[13:06] <_2> !info php | numpszi
[13:06] <_2> well php5
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> numpszi: it makes ubottu react, read his words and check the link
[13:06] <nyaa> lorenzosu you can also install the mstt core fonts, those look neat too but its all preferences
[13:06] <oCean_> sue: hint: if you type "oC" and hit <tab>, the nickname will auto-complete..
[13:06] <darth_muzo> ryugi:  I'm not sure whether it's still true, but for a while on gutsy or hardy, if you had the 32-bit desktop kernel, you couldn't address (i.e. use) more than 3GB of physical RAM, but if you had the 32-bit server kernel you could (using PAE aka Physical Address Extensions), but you were still limited to no more than 2 or 3 GB memory per program you're running
[13:07] <lorenzosu> nyaa: That's a bit better... still kind blurry though
[13:07] <sue> oCean_: thanks
[13:08] <sue> oCean_: so, what's it look like?
[13:08] <ryugi> darth_muzo:ok. i feel 3GB of ram assigned to the vm guest should be fine
[13:08] <numpszi> it works! thanks for the help!
[13:08] <nyaa> lorenzosu here's a guide on the core fonts, if you like those. You could also try a different font from the other ones that are available.  http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/09/09/installing-microsoft-fonts/
[13:08] <lorenzosu> nyaa: thanks
[13:09] <lorenzosu> nyaa: But this is more of font-independent problem... all fonts look quite bad :(
[13:09] <darth_muzo> dayo_: BTW if you're familiar with the command-line, 'less README.DB.CONFIG.gz' should automagically work without having to manually unpack it, due to the wonders of lesspipe
[13:09] <sue> oCean_: http://pastebin.com/m3a354a5f
[13:09] <sonarsubs> woo hoo, i actually installed something!
[13:09] <oCean_> sue: well you'll probably have to add option to /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base. On next link (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845) you can find your codec (stac92xx) and possible options. It seems there are lots of options. Maybe you can find your laptop model there
[13:10] <sue> oCean_:  did you get it?
[13:10] <carpii_> lorenzo, font rendering is not quite up to the standard of Windows. Theres patents which mean linux cant use the same techniques I think
[13:10] <carpii_> Use MS core fonts, and after a while you just get used to it
[13:11] <oCean_> sue: yes. Also try "cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep -i codec"
[13:11] <carpii_> Also you could try turning off font anti-aliasing for smaller font sizes
[13:11] <Pentaton> how do I install gnome do 8.0?
[13:11] <lorenzosu> carpii_: But I have this problem on this machine (monitor) ... and actually Windows also looks very bad... it has the Intel graphics card
[13:11] <carpii_> oic
[13:12] <carpii_> I dont know why that would be.
[13:12] <sue> oCean_:  Codec: SigmaTel STAC9205   Codec: Conexant ID 2c06
[13:12] <carpii_> whats so bad about the fonts? take a screenshot maybe
[13:13] <spectacular_> hi, i'm trying to set up LaTeX on two ubuntu systems and getting dependency problems on both. anyone aware of these and know how to work around them?
[13:13] <oCean_> sue: okay, that one is in the list at (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=616845) Seems to be Dell- m42, m43 or m44
[13:15] <sue> oCean_: probably m42, this is a vostro
[13:15] <davidfromoz> I am struggling to completely understand piping.  I can pipe the output of a find command to sort, but when i try to pipe it to a script it says no files to process
[13:15] <carpii_> what is the script expecting as input ?
[13:15] <davidfromoz> a filename
[13:15] <carpii_> a single filename?
[13:16] <davidfromoz> the script is called renrot.  so i pipe it to renrot --no-rname
[13:16] <oCean_> sue: Edit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (see mentioned link for details) Add "options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m42" at bottem of that file. Reboot and see if that works.
[13:16] <carpii_> try find <params> | xargs | your_script
[13:16] <carpii_> sorry, try find <params> | xargs your_script
[13:16] <davidfromoz> ok.  thank you
[13:17] <sue> oCean_: so what do I do?
[13:17] <oCean_> sue, see my last line i wrote
[13:17] <darth_muzo> davidfromoz: or, if the script doesn't accept multiple arguments, for f in `find <params`; do renrot --no-rname $f; done
[13:18] <sue> Oh
[13:19] <Kurdish> s
[13:20] <sue> oCean_: thanks, will try rebooting now.
[13:22] <edgy> Hi, I added %%admin ALL=NOPASSWD:  /usr/bin/rsync and expected my users of group admin would run sudo rsync without being prompted for password, but still the prompt appear!
[13:24] <senux> hello
[13:24] <senux> i have problem in pbx
[13:24] <senux> wget problem
[13:24] <senux> i wget and always says :80... failed: Connection refused.
[13:24] <ActionParsnip> edgy: if you are rsyncing a folder the user nas access to, to a folder the user has access to it should be ok
[13:24] <senux> how to fix this
[13:24] <senux> please help me
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> senux: if you can give me the whole wget command i'll try it for you
[13:26] <senux> ActionParsnip : all links
[13:26] <senux> i wget
[13:26] <senux> and says ..80... failed: Connection refused.
[13:26] <senux> all links
[13:26] <ActionParsnip> senux: try wget http://www.google.co.uk
[13:26] <aldino> hj
[13:26] <edgy> ActionParsnip: I don't care about permissions now, I mean sudo rsync shouldn't prompt me for the password whatever permissions on the folder are
[13:26] <senux> Resolving www.google.co.uk... 74.125.19.103, 74.125.19.104, 74.125.19.147, ...
[13:26] <senux> Connecting to www.google.co.uk|74.125.19.103|:80... failed: Connection refused.
[13:26] <FloodBot1> senux: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> edgy: i think you can make certain command not need sudo
[13:27] <ActionParsnip> senux: have you configured a firewall at all?
[13:28] <sonarsubs> Q: If I download a program like "WINE" from the package manager, where does Ubuntu store the package so I can install it to a computer not connected to the internet?
[13:28] <edgy> ActionParsnip: is it "not need sudo" or "don't need the password of sudo"?
[13:28] <senux> no
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> edgy: i think its "not need sudo" something to do with UIDs
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> sonarsubs: /var/cache/apt
[13:29] <aldino> tyu
[13:29] <senux> ActionParsnip : can help me to set up firewall
[13:29] <sonarsubs> Thanks
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !aptoncd
[13:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[13:30] <spectacular> unable to install latex (texlive) -- dependency problems.  please see  http://pastebin.ca/1325298   and   http://pastebin.ca/1325301 .  anyone know how to fix this?
[13:32] <spectacular> unable to install latex (texlive) -- dependency problems.  please see  http://pastebin.ca/1325298   and   http://pastebin.ca/1325301 .  anyone know how to fix this?
[13:32] <spectacular> (sorry if that's a repeat, i think i disconnected, not sure if that got through)
[13:32] <pbn> HEllo I've added locales to /var/lib/locales/supported.d, but now locale-gen says "Error: Bad entry" for en_GB.ISO8859-1
[13:33] <pbn> what can I do ?
[13:34] <aldino> []
[13:37] <Skeptiker> Hi! How do I check if I have libv4l installed?
[13:37] <bauer_> i would liek to install ubuntu desttop howto  ? get-apt desktop ?
[13:37] <wxl> how to configure mldonkey ,it does not work!
[13:37] <Pici> bauer_: sudo apt-get ubuntu-desktop
[13:37] <wxl> is there anyone have used the mldonkey?
[13:38] <bauer_> Pici, thx and if i would upgrade to 8.10 , 64 bit ?
[13:38] <Pici> !upgrade | bauer_ read this
[13:40] <miha> Skeptiker: apt-cache search libv4l gives two packages you need, libv4l-0 is library, libv4l-dev if you want to compile something
[13:41] <miha> Skeptiker: what is the problem?
[13:41] <Skeptiker> miha, I am trying to compile drivers so that I can use my webcam.
[13:42] <miha> Skeptiker: oh ok, anything specific?
[13:42] <spectacular_> xchat hasnt been working properly on my other computer, apparently, so please forgive me for repeating the question here, and if someone answered already, please be kind to paste the response.  i'm unable to install latex (texlive) on ubuntu.  dependency problems apparently surrounding texlive-base-bin.  this is the apt-get output:    http://pastebin.ca/1325298    it refers to a /tmp file, which I put here:  http://pastebin.ca/1325301   can someon
[13:42] <spectacular_> e help me please?
[13:43] <Myrtti> spectacular_: are you running hardy?
[13:43] <Skeptiker> miha, apt-cache search libv4l-dev does not return anything. However if I remove "-dev" I get "libv4l-ruby1.8". It this the one I need?
[13:43] <xanxor> Hi, I wonder if anyone can help me. I had Ubuntu (well, Xubuntu with gnome installed) on my laptop. The laptop's motherboard died so I took out the hard drive, put it in an enclosure and am using it as an external hard drive. But even computer which I know have the BIOS capability of booting from an external hard drive won't boot from it. I've been able to boot successfully from it once. On a different computer, I got as fa
[13:43] <Skeptiker> miha, I am trying to install this one: http://m560x-driver.wiki.sourceforge.net/howto_install
[13:43] <sue> I installed Ubuntu with the windows installer, and it partitioned my drive, how can I get to my windows partition?  I want to get some files off.
[13:44] <bauer_> Pici, thx :o)
[13:45] <oCean_> sue: any luck w sound yet?
[13:45] <savvas> sue: you reboot, while you reboot, press Esc key to show the boot menu
[13:45] <sue> Yes, thanks so much!
[13:45] <oCean_> sue: yay! :)
[13:46] <xanxor> Does anyone have any thoughts about my problem? booting from an external hard drive?
[13:46] <sue> savvas, no I mean in ubuntu, I just want to open it like any other disk
[13:46] <sue> xanor worked for me.
[13:47] <sue> I'm running it fine.
[13:47] <sue> Or do you have a problem?
[13:48] <xanxor> Yes, see my message above.
[13:48] <sue> Oh, right :P
[13:48] <spectacular_> Myrtti, yes, hardy
[13:48] <xanxor> I had Ubuntu (well, Xubuntu with gnome installed) on my laptop. The laptop's motherboard died so I took out the hard drive, put it in an enclosure and am using it as an external hard drive. But even computer which I know have the BIOS capability of booting from an external hard drive won't boot from it. I've been able to boot successfully from it once. On a different computer, I got as far as the splash page then the screen
[13:48] <spectacular_> Myrtti, on two separate laptops, in fact, generating the same error at fmtutil-sys
[13:49] <savvas> sue: you head to Places > your-drive-here Media, type in your password and mount it, then you go again to Places > your-drive-here Media
[13:49] <sue> I don't think you can really boot on a diffrent computer..
[13:49] <Stanlin> help!! the hybernation doesn work when i close the laptop
[13:49] <sue> Stanlin System-Preferences-Power mangement.
[13:49] <Myrtti> spectacular_: just checking, since I've got the same problem with hardy as well.
[13:49] <spectacular_> Myrtti, any solution?
[13:50] <xanxor> sue I don't know what you're talking about. it's on an external drive, of course I can boot it on different computers.
[13:50] <xanxor> that's the point.#
[13:50] <Stanlin> sue: how to launch from terminal?
[13:50] <sue> Oh, dunno.
[13:50] <sue> Can't you do it the gui way?
[13:51] <Stanlin> sue: apparently was uninstalled, how to reinstall
[13:51] <xanxor> So I guess no one has any suggestions, then?
[13:51] <sue> Stanlin, I'm kind of limited in knowledge, sorry...can anyone else help?
[13:52] <blizzkid> lo all. How do you permit login only to members of a certain group?
[13:52] <ViperBorg> Help with what now?
[13:52] <sue> Stanlin..
[13:52] <xanxor> I had Ubuntu (well, Xubuntu with gnome installed) on my laptop. The laptop's motherboard died so I took out the hard drive, put it in an enclosure and am using it as an external hard drive. But even computer which I know have the BIOS capability of booting from an external hard drive won't boot from it. I've been able to boot successfully from it once. On a different computer, I got as far as the splash page then the screen
[13:52] <Davedan> I use vmware on windows. What is the best analoug on ubuntu?
[13:52] <sue> Needs help
[13:52] <ViperBorg> Stanlin, what's the issue you need help with?
[13:52] <sue> savvas no, it doesn't show up there.
[13:53] <xanxor> okay, bye then.
[13:53] <Manix> I'm still lost... :(
[13:53] <Stanlin> ViperBorg: how to enable suspend and hibernation for my laptop, seems power managment was uninstalled or removed
[13:53] <sue> savvas, the drive, that is.
[13:53] <oCean_> Stanlin: using gome, in the upper right corner is a fast user applet. Which also lets me shutdown and hibernate
[13:53] <senux> help me
[13:53] <senux> all
[13:53] <ViperBorg> Stanlin, the options are not available in the fast user applet?
[13:53] <senux> i have problem with wget
[13:53] <Manix> could someone try walking me through fixing grub boot?
[13:54] <Stanlin> ViperBorg: oh, so its not possible to suspend just closing the laptop?
[13:54] <ViperBorg> Depends on the laptop. I know my HP won't do it.
[13:55] <edmondscommerce> hey all
[13:55] <nyaa> hey
[13:55] <edmondscommerce> can anyone recommend a pdf reader that allows me to search within the pdf file (like acrobat reader)
[13:55] <edmondscommerce> document viewer doesnt seem to do it
[13:55] <J3ster> my dell inspiron suports it fine (most the time anyways)
[13:55] <sue> savvas, any ideas?
[13:56] <rakudave> edmondscommerce: he does actually, use Ctrl+F - you could also use Okular which enables annotations
[13:56] <edmondscommerce> ah ok
[13:57] <edmondscommerce> ah sweet :-)
[13:57] <edmondscommerce> much much faster than acrobat on windows as well!
[13:57] <edmondscommerce> rakudave: thanks :-)
[13:57] <rakudave> :-)
[13:58] <Finnish_> What's a good accounting program for ubuntu? I really need one
[13:59] <savvas> sue: can you post the output of this command at http://paste.ubuntu.com : sudo fdisk -l
[13:59] <savvas> sue: also the output of this command: mount
[14:00] <yggdrasill_> hello!
[14:01] <sue> savvas http://paste.ubuntu.com/112779/
[14:01] <rakudave> Finnish_: there are equnomize and grisbi, but I have never used them so you'll have to try the for your self...
[14:01] <Manix> Okay. So I had Vista 64-bit installed using 3 HDDs in RAID 5. I decided I wanted to install Ubuntu so I followed a walk through that had me Shrink a portion of the partition and then install Ubuntu on that. I followed the instructions but now when I try to boot it says, "GRUB loading stage1.5.    GRUB loading please wait...      Error 21" ----- I've tried multiple help sites but I'm not making any progress and to be honest I'm kind-of lost. Can 
[14:03] <Davedan> can you recommend a good virtualization software for ubuntu?
[14:03] <Davedan> I'm using vmware on windows xp
[14:03] <rakudave> Davedan: Virtualbox is very good
[14:03] <Davedan>  rakudave: thanks
[14:03] <savvas> sue: did you install your ubuntu using Wubi?
[14:04] <sue> Yes
[14:04] <sue> And, it partitioned the drive for me.
[14:05] <alexutzius> o sa ma reincarnez ca elvis in stefan banica
[14:05] <rakudave> Manix: there are known problems with raid, especially with onboard controllers that use win-only drivers... so I'm afraid you have a serious problem :-/
[14:06] <Manix> I see
[14:06] <savvas> sue: are you on ubuntu right now? I mean.. you're not booting from a live cd right?
[14:07] <sue> No, it's all installed.
[14:07] <sue> I chose 15gb for the partition in Wubi
[14:07] <Manix> So I'm just s.o.l....? Time to format and reinstall?
[14:07] <Caesi> hullo, can anyone help me with installing grub?
[14:08] <savvas> sue: I wouldn't suggest using wubi
[14:08] <kriss3d> uhmm whats the problem with it ?
[14:08] <rakudave> Manix: I'm not 100% sure, but I know of no way to fix that, sorry... (is it an onboard controller?)
[14:08] <kriss3d> savvas:  im using wubi.. its pretty good
[14:08] <kriss3d> and fast..
[14:08] <miha> Caesi: do you have problems or you want a generic guide?
[14:08] <sue> savvas, no I'm on Ubuntu right now, I already installed via Wubi, I chose the 15gb partition size.
[14:08] <Manix> yes onboard raid controller
[14:09] <savvas> sue, kriss3d: fast can be bad: http://wubi-installer.org/faq.php look at "Any gotcha?"
[14:09] <rakudave> Manix: then it is very likely that you're out of luck...
[14:09] <daredevilthere> hello all
[14:09] <savvas> sue: it's not a problem, you can delete that ubuntu installation and install it by booting from the cd properly
[14:09] <kriss3d> savvas:  naturally.. but for messing a bit with it it aint bad.
[14:09] <Caesi> miha: problem installing; I have 3 partitions, 1: Win XP; 2: Ubuntu; 3: Win7 Beta.. I tried installing it using gparted live CD
[14:10] <savvas> sue: it should be in your uninstall of windows xp
[14:10] <daredevilthere> How do i remove virus using ubuntu from my windows partation
[14:10] <BrokenClockwork> Hey, how can I run terminal in a split screen? Is there a nice way or just docking 2 screens?
[14:10] <kriss3d> only issue i have right now is to figure out how to mount my regular drive.. i want to set up so i can play wow while in ubuntu
[14:10] <Caesi> miha: mounted the linux drive under gparted and tried grub-install
[14:10] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:10] <sue> savvas, why should I remove my installation?
[14:10] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:10] <LargeHardonColli> How do I get my cock out of the disk drive?
[14:10] <sue> savvas, I just spent several hours getting everything to work :P
[14:10] <miha> Caesi: did you chroot into linux partition?
[14:11] <Caesi> miha: yes
[14:11] <LargeHardonColli> MY PENIS IS STUCK IN MY DISK TRAY
[14:11] <daredevilthere> How do i remove virus from windows partation using linux
[14:11] <LargeHardonColli> OH GOD IT IS HURTING
[14:11] <saurabh_>  i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:11] <BrokenClockwork> Hey, how can I run terminal in a split screen? Is there a nice way or just docking 2 screens?
[14:11] <LargeHardonColli> OH GOD SO MUUCH BLOOD
[14:12] <miha> Caesi: mounted /proc ?
[14:12] <miha> inside /mnt/ubuntu/proc ?
[14:12] <miha> before chroot?
[14:12] <miha> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[14:12] <Caesi> mhh
[14:12] <LargeHardonColli> WHAT DO I NEED TO TYPE INTO THE TERMINAL TO FREE MY PENIS
[14:12] <rakudave> Manix: perhaps you could ask your vendor if there are linux drivers...
[14:12] <sue> Can somebody get rid of that guy?
[14:12] <savvas> sue: your call, don't blame me if anything goes wrong :) kriss3d: would you help sue mount their drive on wubi?
[14:12] <miha> Caesi: without /proc in chroot, grub cant get devices at all
[14:13] <nyaa>  BrokenClockwork: do you mean dual monitors?  or in which way do you mean splitscreen?
[14:13] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:13] <savvas> !ops LargeHardonColli
[14:13] <miha> ubottu: LOL
[14:13] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop version how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:13] <BrokenClockwork> nyaa: On one monitor 2 terminals
[14:13] <BrokenClockwork> 1 left one right
[14:14] <Caesi> miha: thanks for the manual, I'll try it
[14:14] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop can i use the ftp service in it
[14:14] <ssapphiree> Hey all )) Sorry for offtoping, but I don't know where to ask... Native english speakers (or anybody), could you please have a look at this video sample? ) http://www.vimeo.com/3052143  I'm trying to translate "Being Erica" s01e02, but I don't get what they're saying there in the sample. See the description on vimeo. Do you hear what they say?
[14:14] <saurabh_> why is nobody answering me
[14:14] <senux> heloo
[14:15] <saurabh_> i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:15] <senux> anybody can help me
[14:15] <senux> about pbx root
[14:15] <senux> please
[14:15] <nyaa> BrokenClockwork: if you go into applications, accessories, terminal you should get as many as you want that you can resize etc. There is also the option of using ctrl + alt + f1 - f6 to get terminals (ctrl + alt + f7 brings you back to x if you do that.
[14:15] <miha> savvas: as client or server?
[14:15] <miha> ups
[14:16] <cellofellow> when I try to mount my ~/Private directory I get "keyctl_search: Required key not available". How do I fix this?
[14:16] <SuPeRhAm> [01:15:32] <miha> savvas: as client or server?
[14:16] <SuPeRhAm> [01:15:39] <miha> ups
[14:16] <simono_> saurabh: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:16] <nyaa> Brokenclorkwork if that isnt the sort of thing you are going for, then I can't really visualize it heh =)
[14:16] <rakudave> daredevilthere: use ClamAV, "sudo apt-get install clamav"
[14:16] <SuPeRhAm> he left already i think miha
[14:16] <BrokenClockwork> nyaa: So just the docking methode?
[14:17] <SuPeRhAm> saurabh_
[14:17] <SuPeRhAm> [01:15:32] <miha> savvas: as client or server?
[14:17] <SuPeRhAm> [01:15:39] <miha> ups
[14:17] <miha> SuPeRhAm: i noticed yes, but i press tab and enter without checking
[14:17] <Appiah> I dont want my users to be notified about updates , only root and sudoers. How can I do that?
[14:17] <miha> hehe
[14:17] <davetarmac> is anyone familiar with Adium on OS X?
[14:17] <cellofellow> "Unable to read salt value from user's .ecryptfsrc file; using default" what's that mean?
[14:17] <KDB9000> How do I change from the seahorse-agent back to the ssh-agent for ssh passphrase for keyed ssh sessions?
[14:17] <SuPeRhAm> tab abuse miha :P
[14:18] <saurabh_>  i have ubuntu 8.10 desktop how can i use the ftp service in it
[14:18] <scizzo-> saurabh_: read a bit up please
[14:18] <simono_> saurabh: https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:18] <simono_> saurabh_:  https://help.ubuntu.com/8.10/serverguide/C/ftp-server.html
[14:18] <davetarmac> actually - another question - in Software Sources on the 3rd Party tab, there is a load of unchecked sources, can they be removed?
[14:18] <scizzo-> saurabh_: you have asked the same question 4 times within 4 minutes.......and someone has answered
[14:18] <saurabh_> hello
[14:19] <miha> SuPeRhAm: i dont get it why microsoft doesnt implement TAB for windows command line, not even in VISTA
[14:19] <saurabh_> srry i coundnt read it
[14:19] <saurabh_> pls anser me once more
[14:19] <miha> SuPeRhAm: that's one reason i hate windows:)
[14:19] <saurabh_> srry
[14:19] <cellofellow> when I try to mount my ~/Private directory I get "keyctl_search: Required key not available". How do I fix this?
[14:19] <cellofellow> "Unable to read salt value from user's .ecryptfsrc file; using default" what's that mean?
[14:19] <Appiah> miha: there is
[14:19] <scizzo-> saurabh_: scroll up a bit
[14:19] <miha> Appiah: "doskey" ?
[14:19] <MetroGnome> mcf
[14:19] <MetroGnome> oops
[14:19] <MetroGnome> hi all
[14:19] <Appiah> miha: no there is tab for paths , but not for commands :D
[14:19] <hyakuhei> I've just been called into work, a Dell inspiron 9400 running ibex has a racing cpu fan - running at full power, processor is a rather chilly 25c - This is the second time this has happened, anyone have any idea why ?
[14:20] <Manix> rakudave: it is a EVGA Nvdia 780i
[14:20] <SuPeRhAm> anyone got a quick fix to reboot pulseaudio service
[14:20] <Appiah> isent pulseaudio in /etc/init.d/ ?
[14:20] <LargeHardonColli> Open system moniter kill pulseaudio
[14:20] <hyakuhei> SuPeRhAm: /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[14:20] <LargeHardonColli> Done
[14:21] <SuPeRhAm> awsome
[14:21] <SuPeRhAm> ta
[14:21] <SuPeRhAm> @ all 3 replys
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[14:21] <FloodBot1> LargeHardonColli: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
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[14:22] <erUSUL> !ops | LargeHardonColli
[14:22] <kriss3d> LargeHardonColli:  whats your point ?
[14:22] <mini-man> he's emo
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[14:22] <mini-man> see? emo
[14:22] <carpii_> grow up moron
[14:22] <Appiah> :D
[14:22] <Panoptic> LargeHardonColli DMC?
[14:22] <mini-man> poor chap lost his razor
[14:22] <mini-man> and he's looking for attention
[14:22] <SuPeRhAm> hmm
[14:23] <miha> this reminds me of meeper on undernet, he came to #uspolitricks and just did Meep! all the time
[14:23] <kriss3d> may i suggest you join #null instead LargeHardonColli ?
[14:23] <MaxiPsycho> hyakuhei: Advanced Power Management (APM) /  ACPI (Advanced Configuration and Power Interface) be your problem?
[14:23] <oobe> is there a keyboard shortcut to close tabs
[14:23] <LargeHardonColli> Yeah found a nice place to troll a bit
[14:23] <cellofellow> my ~/Private directory won't mount. help.
[14:23] <LargeHardonColli> gonna save this for laters
[14:23] <oobe> is there a keyboard shortcut to close tabs for firefox
[14:23] <erUSUL> oobe: crtl + w
[14:23] <KDB9000> How do I change from the seahorse-agent back to the ssh-agent for ssh passphrase for keyed ssh sessions?
[14:23] <shubbar> oobe, ctrl-w
[14:23] <mini-man> LargeHardonColli: open a terminal, and do rm -rf /
[14:23] <oobe> ok thanks
[14:23] <hyakuhei> MaxiPsycho: well I imagine it would be a problem with acpi, I can't see anything in the logs though
[14:23] <mini-man> :)
[14:24] <rakudave> Manix: google returns nothing interesting so...
[14:24] <erUSUL> !danger | mini-man
[14:24] <Myrtti> mini-man: please join #ubuntu-ops
[14:24] <hyakuhei> heh, good man Myrtti
[14:24] <miha> mini-man: you forgot sudo :)
[14:24] <mini-man> eesh, sry :P
[14:24] <shubbar> anyone using an Android phone?
[14:24]  * miha sorry too
[14:24] <mini-man> miha: true
[14:24] <Myrtti> mini-man: preferably now
[14:24] <SuPeRhAm> hmm, wierd, pulseaudio restart didnt do anything, still get connection refused msg on opening pulse audio devices.
[14:25] <mini-man> Myrtti: done
[14:25] <Prisla-Chan> shutdown button won't work. HELP! =/
[14:25] <edulix> hi
[14:25] <edulix> what file do I need to edit to make ubuntu reload the ath_pci driver in suspend/resume? I need to do it manually everytime..
[14:25] <bleh123> anyone have experience installing 64bit wireless drivers w/ ndiswrapper / driver loader?
[14:26] <connar> hi edu
[14:26] <MaarekStele> what's the command to get the alternate install list?  It'll show postfix, LAMP, and others
[14:26] <sue> Ok, I installed via Wubi, and I want to get to the root, so I can get to my windows files, how can I do that?
[14:26] <connar> can u give me a command to check if my machine is 32 bit or 64 bit?
[14:26] <erUSUL> MaarekStele: tasksel ?
[14:26] <DB42> i've got a few files on my FS that i can't delete (tells me permission denied, but it's owned by my user and i got "rw" on it) what can it be ?
[14:26] <MaarekStele> erUSUL, I'll try that, thanks
[14:26] <bleh123> connar what proc do you have
[14:27] <miha> connar: cat /proc/cpuinfo tells some info?
[14:27] <erUSUL> connar: you want to know what ubuntu you have installed or if your cpu supports 64 bits ??
[14:27] <MaarekStele> erUSUL, perfect... making a mental note
[14:27] <connar> yes erUSUL
[14:27] <rakudave> Prisla-Chan: If it doesn't, it won't... probably requires some driver only available for window$... I have those buttons too. You could try running "xev", which displays all button presses/releases. If it doesn't show up there, It won't work without a driver
[14:27] <senux> hhelp mee
[14:27] <senux> hhelp mee
[14:27] <erUSUL> connar: yes? you want to know the former or the later?
[14:27] <connar> actually i have a debian package which says wrong architecture
[14:27] <Myrtti> senux: just ask
[14:28] <DB42> i've got a few files on my FS that i can't delete (tells me permission denied, but it's owned by my user and i got "rw" on it) what can it be ? (it's on another partition tho)
[14:28] <erUSUL> connar: uname -m
[14:28] <connar> erUSUL : thanx
[14:28] <MacGyverNL> I've got a little issue. Any of you guys ever use Ubuntu's remote desktop to remote into windows boxes? You see, I've got a Windows Vista running the Colemak beta, and an Ubuntu (which I configured to Colemak during install) which I use to RDP into that box.
[14:28] <MacGyverNL> Only problem is, when the keyboard setting on the windows box is "Colemak", a double qwerty -> colemak conversion takes place.
[14:28] <MacGyverNL> i.e. Where normally, qwerty "F" becomes colemak "T", now qwerty "F" becomes "G" because first it's converted to colemakt "T", and then on the windows machine I guess that "T" is interpreted as qwerty and converted to the colemak "G".
[14:28] <MacGyverNL> Any thoughts on where the problem's cause is, Ubuntu-side or Windows-side, and a possible fix for the Ubuntu-side?
[14:28] <FloodBot1> MacGyverNL: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:28] <connar> thats what i was looking for
[14:28] <erUSUL> DB42: maybe you do ot have write permissions on the  folder
[14:28] <senux> i have problem
[14:28] <senux> with pbx
[14:28] <senux> wget problem
[14:28] <Myrtti> !enter | senux
[14:28] <miha> DB42: maybe a running program/service uses it?
[14:29] <senux> all links i wget
[14:29] <DB42> erUSUL: yeah, thanks !
[14:29] <senux> ok ok sory
[14:29] <connar> erUSUl : i686 refers to a 32 bit machine right?
[14:29] <erUSUL> connar: yes
[14:29] <connar> erUSUL: thanx
[14:29] <paul68> how van I check what type of fans there are running on my system can't find it through lshw?
[14:29] <senux> i have problem with pbx , wget problem s all links i wget says ....:80 connection refused
[14:29] <erUSUL> connar: not machine but install the machine may be 64 bit capable but you have 32 bit ubuntu installed
[14:29] <s3a> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules/+bug/289912  --> i installed linux-backports-modules-intrepid and rebooted and my wireless still doesn't work (i have the HP G50 laptop with the 02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01) wireless card
[14:29]  * miha wonders if intel core2 duo should use 64 bit yet.. i dont have that much RAM (2gb) or programs to need 64 bit?
[14:30] <scizzo-> senux: and its not a dns issue?
[14:30] <zippel> hi, i have ubuntu 8.04.1-server installed with kernel 2.6.24-19 but after the installation my saata-cdrom does not work :/ i found some hints that the problem comes with 2.6.24 but i dont know it for shure can someone help plz?
[14:30] <scizzo-> senux: if you ping www.google.com as a example
[14:30] <oCean_> senux: i told you to setup your networking first
[14:30] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: are you using 64bit?
[14:30] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, no
[14:30] <mrwoody> Hi *. Sorry for the faq. Does anyone know when we will see kde 4.2 in ubuntu?
[14:30] <Chousuke> miha: that's really up to you; I wouldn't use 64-bit yet though; but I hear it works pretty well overall.
[14:30] <miha> Chousuke: same:)
[14:30] <Seveas> mrwoody, april, in jaunty
[14:30] <senux>  ping www.google.com
[14:31] <senux> 64 bytes from cf-in-f99.google.com (74.125.19.99): icmp_seq=1 ttl=240 time=22.4 ms
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: then you did something wrong,b ecause i've set that device up on 4 different machiens w/ that chipset, and it works fine
[14:31] <oobe> i have a problem with multiple tabs in firefox i want to keep open but i opened a link to a disgusting site that wont close and is force ing me to start a fresh session unless i kill that one page and ctrl + w wont work
[14:31] <senux> any idea?
[14:31] <MaarekStele> is there anyway to make the "rmmod pcspkr" command to stick after reboots?
[14:31] <connar> erUSUL: is there a way to check if my machine is 32 bit or 64...and another way to check if the Ubuntu installed is 32 or 64 bit
[14:31] <miha> connar less /proc/cpuinfo should give you info on first question
[14:31] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: did you disable the restricted driver?
[14:31] <miha> connar: then you google given processor
[14:32] <Seveas> connar, uname -a
[14:32] <senux> scizzo- : any idea?
[14:32] <scizzo-> senux: and when you surf normaly from that machine that has problems with :80 what happens then?
[14:32] <erUSUL> connar: for the later you already have the answer your ubuntu onstall is i686 == 32 bit for the former do « grep --color ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo » if you see something highlighted ( lm to be precise) your cpu has long mode == 64 bits
[14:32] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, o i went to hardware drivers and now it says it sees it!!! :D BUT it says "This driver is activated but not currently in use"
[14:32] <scizzo-> senux: pages comes up and everything?
[14:33] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: do you have one or two options there for atheros device?
[14:33] <Seveas> connar, if /proc/cpuinfo has 'lm' in the flag fields the machine is 64bit. Uname -a will tell you if you have a 64bit os
[14:33] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, the only option i c is "deactivate"
[14:34] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: is that option "Support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards"
[14:34] <scizzo-> senux: or what happens if you as a example do: wget http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/98651-1.png
[14:34] <scizzo-> senux: do you get the same error from that address and so on?
[14:34] <senux> nothing page
[14:34] <senux> nothing all
[14:34] <senux> just says failed
[14:34] <connar> seveas: clflush size    : 64......wat does this indiacte?
[14:35] <scizzo-> senux: no page comes up if you go to www.google.com for example?
[14:35] <scizzo-> senux: I mean not using wget but using firefox or something like that?
[14:35] <scizzo-> senux: because I hope you are not surfing with wget...that won't really work well
[14:35] <connar> seveas : u there?
[14:35] <Seveas> connar, no idea. Definitely not whether it's 64bit though :)
[14:35] <ode> hello, how can i stop nautilus opening windows when i plug my mp3 player in?
[14:36] <erUSUL> ode: on nautilus preferences removable media
[14:36] <kriss3d> uhmm anyone know how to get kernel sources for kubuntu ?? or is that included in the install somhow ?
[14:36] <Seveas> ode, system -> preferences -> removable drives and media
[14:36] <tomodachi> krazed:  yes there is
[14:36] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, http://img509.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshothardwaredriveof5.png
[14:36] <connar> seveas : i followed ur procedure and what i saw 64 was in the clflush field
[14:37] <erUSUL> connar: for the later you already have the answer your ubuntu onstall is i686 == 32 bit for the former do « grep --color ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo » if you see something highlighted ( lm to be precise) your cpu has long mode == 64 bits <<<<<< do this
[14:37] <Seveas> connar, you need to look only at the flags field and look for the 'word' lm
[14:37] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: have you restarted since installing the backport modules?
[14:37] <ode> i don't have that option in preferences
[14:37] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, ya i just came back from a reboot
[14:37] <erUSUL> ode: it is now in nautilus preferences
[14:37] <ode> i remember it in a previous install
[14:38] <ode> ah thanks
[14:38] <erUSUL> ode: open a nautilus window ( Places>Documents for example) go to Edit>Preferences the last tab
[14:38] <genii> !info linux-source | kriss3d
[14:38] <connar> erUSUL : it returned me nothing
[14:38] <mithraic> So I'm about to replace my ATI video card with an Nvidia. Any special advice? I figure I'll turn off the ATI driver, then shut down, install, and hope for the best.
[14:38] <askand> I have a 64bit CPU, do you recommend me to install 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu? What problems could arise with 64bit?
[14:38] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: youv'e done something that isn't right.. just can't figure out what... every time i've set that device up(and as said, i've done it seveal times), you'll have two options there, one is deactivated, the other activated.. yours shows it is activated properly....
[14:38] <erUSUL> connar: then your cpu is not 64 bit
[14:38] <connar> erUSUL : i m back to the prompt
[14:38] <connar> erUSUL : u sure abt that?
[14:39] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: what is the output of uname -a
[14:39] <connar> erUSUL : if it doesnt return me anything then it is a 32 bit machine?
[14:39] <erUSUL> connar: if you typed the command as i have typed it here yes i'm sure
[14:39] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, Linux deniz-laptop 2.6.27-11-generic #1 SMP Thu Jan 29 19:24:39 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[14:39] <ode> erUSUL: thanks i have it :)
[14:39] <erUSUL> ode: no problem
[14:39] <connar> erUSUL : i just copy pasted it
[14:40] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: what all did you try to get that device working?... before stumbling upon installing the linux-backports
[14:40] <connar>  grep --color ' lm ' /proc/cpuinfo...thats the command i typed
[14:40] <erUSUL> connar: just make sure the ' ' are the right ones
[14:40] <senux> hhelo
[14:40] <spektrum> hi ppl
[14:40] <senux> im not use fro wget
[14:40] <etb> how can i instruct thunderbird to get all msgs from the server, and not just the new ones?
[14:40] <senux> im not use surfing with wget
[14:40] <senux> i need to wget some files
[14:40] <connar> erUSUL : i made sure they are single quotes
[14:40] <spektrum> I got a strange problem
[14:40] <erUSUL> connar: then your cpu is not 64 bit
[14:40] <spektrum> Sound is not working
[14:41] <scizzo-> senux: did you try the wget command I gave you?
[14:41] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, well nothing rely but i did read that vista somehow deactivates the wireless card on the internet but i dont no if whoever said that was right (this laptop had vista pre-installed but i removed it)
[14:41] <spektrum> when I click on test hardware
[14:41] <erUSUL> connar: which cpu model do you have ?
[14:41] <spektrum> it tells that it is testing ICH7
[14:41] <spektrum> wtf is that?
[14:41] <wemdowemd> Old time ubuntu user here returning to attempt a bit of a 'project'. After realising the security problems in Windows, though much reduced in Vista are still an issue, I want to see if I can make a totally 'locked down' ubuntu install. As in, airtight to a ridiculous degree. Encrypted system, encrypted internet access, tight firewall control, the lot. I want to see if linux can live up to...
[14:41] <wemdowemd> ...its security expectations ;) My question is whether there are tutorials on how to do this sort of thing, or where I should start.
[14:41] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: wel, even if vista deactivated it, that shouldn't effect linux.
[14:41] <connar> erUSUL : i have a 2.6 ghz intel pentium 4 machine
[14:42] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: do you have a button or something on your laptop, to turn wireless on/off
[14:42] <erUSUL> connar: p4 are not 64 bit
[14:42] <spektrum> does anyone have a clue about my prob?
[14:42] <ode> another question? I'm importing some photos in gthumb, should I have 'rotate images physically' ticked?  what does this option mean?
[14:42] <Appiah> wemdowemd: lockdown how?
[14:42] <connar> erUSUL : okay
[14:42] <Appiah> wemdowemd: biggest security problem is still the user(s)
[14:42] <connar> erUSUL : then what machines are 64 bits
[14:43] <connar> erUSUL : the quadcores/
[14:43] <connar> ?
[14:43] <erUSUL> connar: some pentium D all Core 2 duo Athlons64 opterons etc...
[14:43] <erUSUL> connar: i have a althlon x2 3800+ it is 64 bit
[14:44] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, yes there is and i just tried pressing it and before i go any further (in vista when the wireless was working, the button had blue light and when it doesn't work it had oprange light, in ubuntu, it always has orange light but on the positive side of things, now that i go on network-manager-gnome on my top panel it says "wireless networks" although it doesn't actually show any wireless networks
[14:44] <kriss3d> anyone know how do access the entire harddrive when using wubi ?
[14:44] <SuPeRhAm> any amd 3k+ is 64bit
[14:45] <SuPeRhAm> sept for socket a versions
[14:45] <Bou> hi
[14:45] <wemdowemd> Appiah: I intend to have the system partition on an external drive, booted from something like a livecd - this is to avoid playing with my laptop BIOS. The filesystem and everything else on said HD will be encrypted. Once that bit is done and its installed, I expect the internet stuff should be easy - firestarter, Tor etc. It's really the initial install I want advice on. How to put the...
[14:45] <wemdowemd> ...filesystem on an external drive, boot-encrypted but without requiring changing the BIOS on the laptop. Except to tell it to preferentially boot from a CD/USB
[14:45] <Bou> how can I disable the automatic hibernation?
[14:46] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: well, is your essid hidden by chance?
[14:46] <connar> erUSUL : what exactly is the difference between a 32 bit and a 64 bit machine?
[14:46] <nyaa> bou it should be somewhere in system > preferences > power management
[14:46] <wemdowemd> Given standalone USB OS's are possible, like BlackDog, I think what I want is achievable.
[14:46] <Appiah> boot from external shouldnt be any problem , just select your device from the boot menu wemdowemd
[14:46] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, essid=the name of my network? if so, no, it isn't hidden, not to mention i'd see my neighbours' networks
[14:46] <failers> is there a console command to diasble laptop touchpad?
[14:46] <Appiah> just insert the CD and choose the external drive to install on
[14:46] <Appiah> when asked about encrypted home dir choose yes
[14:46] <erUSUL> connar: this is turning way offtopic for the channel you will find a lot of info on the net
[14:47] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: i really don't know.. can't explain t.. just know i've set up that device several times, w/o issue, on several different PC's (mostly acer's)
[14:47] <s3a> failers, system-->preferences-->mouse-->touchpad
[14:47] <wemdowemd> Appiah: And from then on, whenever PC is booted with external plugged in, it preferentially loads the (passworded) ubuntu install?
[14:47] <Bou> nyaa:thx
[14:47] <connar> erUSUL : i understand but i just need the basic difference
[14:47] <failers> s3a: i want it in "console command" so i can me a bash script to auto turn of on startup :P
[14:47] <connar> erUSUL : too much info on the net
[14:48] <Appiah> wemdowemd: if you dont wanna change the bios boot order you gonna have to select your external drive from the Bios boot menu (F12 on many comps nowdays)
[14:48] <Appiah> each time you start the computer
[14:48] <erUSUL> connar:  a 32 bit cpu uses 32 bit wide words to operate and a 64 bit use 64 bit words the registers the execution paths etc all is "wider" on a 64 bit cpu
[14:48] <s3a> failers, wait i dint understand wat u said too well but wat i told u, disables touchpad on startup too
[14:48] <rainmanp7> is there a ubuntu developer channel ?
[14:49] <failers> s3a: oh it does ok
[14:49] <oCean_> rainmanp7: #ubuntu-devel
[14:49] <rainmanp7> ty
[14:50] <senux> helppppp meeeeeee
[14:50] <senux> please
[14:50] <carpii_> what package contains all the build tools? build-essentials or something ?
[14:50] <connar> seveas : in the fleags field the lm field is not highlighted
[14:50] <wemdowemd> Appiah: OK, that's fine. It was the trouble I had with GRUB (or to be more exact, Windows throwing its teddy out after GRUB went in) that originally stopped me dual-booting ubuntu. That's as much a reason for my keeping it off the laptop as security is. Can you tell me what encryption prog the ubuntu installer uses? Could I use Truecrypt?
[14:50] <nyaa> senux whats the problem you're having?
[14:50] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, do u no where i can keep looking for a solution because this is the closest ive ever gotten to getting it to work
[14:51] <scizzo-> senux: I have asked you if you have tried the command I gave you
[14:51] <Appiah> wemdowemd: yes there is truecrypt , if you enable the encryption during the install when asked I have no idea what app it uses
[14:51] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: honestly, no.. cuz everything i've ever read, and what ive done, says it shouldve worked
[14:51] <Appiah> I'm sure you can find out on the wiki
[14:51] <scizzo-> senux: we are trying to help you.......
[14:52] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: you didn't run any black list commands did you.
[14:52] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, IT WORKS!!!
[14:52] <Mohammad[B]> how to i can set a proxy (SOCKS Host) in Terminal for tunneling ?
[14:52] <IndyGunFreak> ok
[14:52] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, i dint hold the wireless button long enuf thats y!!!
[14:52] <IndyGunFreak> s3a: ok.
[14:52] <senux> scizzo- : sory sory
[14:53] <rainmanp7> Is there a way that I can learn about building a driver to run in ubuntu ? or join a driver builder help team ?
[14:53] <senux> scizzo- : what command wget
[14:53] <scizzo-> senux: or what happens if you as a example do: wget http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/98651-1.png
[14:53] <scizzo-> senux: try that
[14:54] <pos69sum> just installed intrepid on a dell latitude d600 laptop
[14:54] <pos69sum> i have no networking, lspci shows that my nic is detected
[14:54] <pos69sum> not able to get a connection using either wired or wireless nics
[14:54] <wemdowemd> Appiah: Yeah, back in the day I seem to remember people getting it to work using Truecrypt as the boot-decrypting program. Thanks for all your help. Do you know of any other security issues I should consider? One of the main annoyances of Windows is its tendency to keep unstated usage tracks all over the place; is there a list or something of all the usage tracks ubuntu generates?
[14:54] <miha> rainmanp7: google found this link http://kerneltrap.org/node/7636
[14:54] <pos69sum> nic is a broadcom - i know this requires ndiswrapper setup, but i can't even get networking on wired nic
[14:55] <rainmanp7> miha thank you
[14:55] <pos69sum> any suggestions?
[14:55] <Yellow_dog> I'm back again here
[14:55] <miha> rainmanp7: google more for kernel team, that's not ubuntu specific
[14:55] <miha> rainmanp7: ubuntu just patches kernel if needed
[14:56] <rainmanp7> miha oh ok didn't know :) Good 2 know
[14:56] <KDB9000> I need some help with SSH. Seahorse agent is in control of my password but I want to set it back to ssh-agent handles all my ssh password stuff. How do I switch it back to ssh-agent from seahorse?
[14:56] <senux> scizzo- : :80... failed: Connection refused
[14:57] <senux> same
[14:57] <senux> says :80... failed: Connection refused
[14:57] <Yellow_dog> about HP 6730s lap-top issues. I'm install Ubunutu on my HP lap top but wireless didn't working
[14:57] <askand>  I have a 64bit CPU, do you recommend me to install 32bit or 64bit Ubuntu? What problems could arise with 64bit?
[14:57] <connar> askand : how to format a pendrive
[14:58] <scizzo-> senux: ok then try: wget http://87.106.93.206/CONTENT/content-files/98651-1.png
[14:58] <vtec> someone can help me?
[14:58] <Yellow_dog> I read some where that kernel 2.6.28 have the HP 6730s problem fixed
[14:58] <askand> connar: how cill that be a problem?
[14:58] <_PriChan_> can someone help me? shutdown button won't work =/
[14:58] <scizzo-> !ask | vtec
[14:59] <connar> askand : i need to know the command for formatting a pendrive
[14:59] <vtec> oks
[14:59] <dayo_> _PriChan_: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[14:59] <askand>  connar: aha, why are you asking me? :) anyway, install gparted from synaptic and format from there
[14:59] <dayo_> _PriChan: or in your terminal: sudo shutdown -h now
[14:59] <askand>  connar: it will be in the adminmenu
[15:00] <scizzo-> dayo_: I think he wants to hibernate the machine
[15:00] <dayo_> _PriChan_: or in your terminal: sudo shutdown -h now
[15:00] <senux> scizzo- : Connecting to 87.106.93.206:80... failed: Connection refused.
[15:00] <senux> same
[15:00] <dayo_> scizzo-: i see
[15:00] <scizzo-> senux: you have a network problem I believe
[15:00] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, thx
[15:00] <s3a> IndyGunFreak, is this supposed to NOT work on 64 bit?
[15:00] <scizzo-> senux: you need to set the network up properly before you can do anything else
[15:00] <dayo_> _PriChan_: nevermind, then
[15:00] <s3a> does anyone here know how to make my swap partition mount by itself on boot and not need me to do manually mount it?
[15:00] <scizzo-> senux: I believe that even: sudo apt-get update won't work for you
[15:01] <oCean_> senux: i told you to learn basic (networking) setup first
[15:01] <Yellow_dog> so I try one to upgrade my kernel from 2.6.27-11 to 2.6.28 but the system became unstable
[15:01] <scizzo-> _PriChan_: what are you exactly trying to do with the power button and what result at you expecting?
[15:01] <Talker> i have installed ubuntu on computer, but i ca't get the internet to work. I'm connected to the wlan, with high quality and strenght, but no internet. Looks like some app has set nameserver to 192.168.0.1 in the resolv.conf file. I know that there is internet on the wlan, cause i have windows computers using it. What shall i do?
[15:02] <miha> s3a: add to /etc/fstab with type swap
[15:02] <_PriChan_> dayo_ : tks, but no way my button back? (its sounds estrange o.0)
[15:02] <erUSUL> !fstab | s3a
[15:02] <vtec> i try update the system and my conection is 2 mpbs and the download is very bad above 15 kbps sometimes 7, and i try download another programs and my conection go fine with rate some 200kbs , had some problem with the server?
[15:02] <miha> s3a: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html
[15:03] <ben____> hey.. any ruby users? is there a quick way to install 1.9.1 on 8.10 or do I need to build from source?
[15:03] <miha> vtec: try differnet mirror
[15:03] <Yellow_dog> can somebody help please?
[15:03] <vtec> i  try update ubuntu
[15:03] <easwar> Yellow_dog, using Jaunty?
[15:03] <senux> scizzo- : thanks for sugesttion
[15:03] <erUSUL> Yellow_dog: how you did the upgrade you buided your own kernel ?
[15:03] <miha> vtec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mirrors
[15:03] <senux> scizzo- : but how to setting up the network
[15:04] <vtec> thanks
[15:04] <erUSUL> Yellow_dog: your configuration is not supported if you use your own kernel your on your own
[15:04] <_PriChan_> Yellow_dog: I want click on shutdown button (@ applets, top-right corner) and my pc shutdown :) Actually it goes to login screen =/
[15:04] <scizzo-> senux: its a server setup?
[15:04] <miha> vtec for example i'm in slovenia, but si.archive.ubuntu... works horrible (no idea who hosts that), de.archive...(german mirror) works so much better
[15:04] <miha> vtec: try countries you think are 'close' to you in network
[15:04] <scizzo-> senux: it depends a bit on what you want if its a server
[15:04] <senux> scizzo- : yes
[15:04] <miha> vtec: traceroute might help
[15:04] <vtec> yeah,
[15:04] <lecta> is there something in ubuntu like the cluster suite from Redhat?
[15:04] <oCean_> ben____: apt-cache search gives 1.8 as well as 1.9
[15:04] <_PriChan_> Yellow_dog it used to happen =/
[15:05] <miha> vtec: /etc/apt/sources.list ... and apt-get update after that
[15:05] <vtec> how i can miss that
[15:05] <Yellow_dog> erUSUL: no, I use KernelCheck for upgrading my kernel
[15:05] <vtec> i will change
[15:05] <ben____> oCean_: yeah, the stock pkg gave me 1.9.0...
[15:05] <vtec> sorry my english is very poor
[15:05] <vtec> im braziliam
[15:05] <oCean_> ben____: sorry, didn't see the minor .1 ..
[15:05] <vtec> i will try after lauch
[15:05] <vtec> see ya
[15:05] <miha> vtec: ok
[15:05] <vtec> thanks one more time
[15:06] <_PriChan_> vtec: me too :D
[15:06] <scizzo-> senux: you want to get IP using dhcp or so?
[15:06] <ben____> oCean_: actually 1.9.0 segfault for me right away
[15:06] <ben____> which is a bit crap :)
[15:06] <senux> scizzo- : maybe for dhcp
[15:06] <Yellow_dog> Prichan: I don't know exactly what is happen... need to check your system log
[15:06] <erUSUL> Yellow_dog: yeap a third party package that automatically build the kernel for you is the same situation... basically you're on your own ( disclaimer i use my own kernels too)
[15:07] <Caesi> miha: hullo, u there?
[15:07] <miha> Caesi: yes?
[15:07] <oCean_> ben____: i agree.. however I have no clue how to help you out there :/
[15:07] <senux> scizzo- : what command i use for the fixed wget
[15:07] <Squid> can i know the name of the channel for italian support of UBUNTU?
[15:07] <Caesi> miha cool :) didn't work unfortunately; I tried the manual but I kept getting couldn't find /boot/grub/stage1
[15:07] <erUSUL> !it | Squid
[15:07] <scizzo-> senux: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dhclient
[15:07] <Squid> tnx
[15:08] <wemdowemd> I have an Intel Core 2 Duo 2.2Ghz processor. Which alternative CD should I choose? The amd64 one? Or should I just stick with a 32bit OS?
[15:08] <miha> Caesi: well is file there?
[15:08] <miha> and directory?
[15:08] <Caesi> huh?
[15:08] <easwar> wemdowemd, You can take the amd64
[15:08] <miha> ls /boot/grub
[15:08] <miha> it should be on your ubuntu partition
[15:08] <thrope> hi - i just installed 8.04 server and did all updates - now I have a situation where kernel is built with gcc 4.2.3 but the installed version is 4.2.4 - seems a bit shoddy for a LTS release... is there a way round this? (how to downgrade gcc back to 4.2.3?
[15:08] <erUSUL> wemdowemd: that's up to you to decide...  what amount of ram do you have installed ?
[15:09] <Caesi> hmm.. if not should I just create it?
[15:09] <Yellow_dog> Yellow_dog: I'm not an expert on linux, please what can I do for get my wirelless on in my box?
[15:09] <wemdowemd> erUSUL: 2gb
[15:09] <_PriChan_> Yellow_dog: bad news =/ Im not on my pc right now =/ kay ill back with it maybe :)
[15:09] <miha> Caesi: not really, it's some sort of binary data grub writes on MBR/partition
[15:09] <miha> it should be under your ubuntu partition in boot directory
[15:09] <jtaji> !info gcc hardy | thrope
[15:09] <erUSUL> wemdowemd: well then you do not need 64 bit to access all the ram you can install whichever you choose
[15:10] <Caesi> miha: hmm I'm just accessing the Linux drive via Windows and can't find the file
[15:10] <jtaji> thrope: not sure how you got 4.2.4, as you see the official version is still 4.2.3
[15:10] <care-bear> can somebody help how to record sound with gnome-sound-recorder. I have set different kind of settings but still doesn't works :(
[15:10] <miha> Caesi: do you have seperate boot partition?
[15:10] <miha> in that case, mount that too
[15:10] <thrope> jtaji: just did aptitude install build-essential on a fresh install
[15:10] <tyler_d> looking for a some gui app for the "diff" command?
[15:10] <Yellow_dog> PriChan: ok take a look on your log system
[15:10] <wemdowemd> erUSUL: I'm just thinking of the problems 64 bit windows has, namely a lack of 64 bit programs out, and compatability problems with some of the 32 bit ones. Does those problems also exist for linux? Would I get any processing speed benefits with the 64bit version?
[15:10] <daredevilthere> How do i compile kernel from source
[15:10] <Caesi> miha: no
[15:10] <anglxs> hello everybody
[15:11] <Yellow_dog> hello anglxs
[15:11] <Caesi> at least not that I know of :)
[15:11] <senux> scizzo- : sudo: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found
[15:11] <ViperBorg> wemdowemd, I've been using 64-bit Linux for about a year now. No problems with drivers / programs.
[15:11] <ViperBorg> 32-bit only programs still run fine.
[15:11] <scizzo-> senux: ummmmmmmmm not possible
[15:12] <_PriChan_> Yellow_dog: Thanks :)
[15:12] <scizzo-> senux: I do not believe that error
[15:12] <Yellow_dog> erUSUL: sorry... I'm not an expert on linux, please what can I do for get my wirelless on in my box?
[15:12] <erUSUL> wemdowemd: almost alll free programs have 64 bit versions flash work either installing the prepackaged 32 bit + 64 bit wrapper or via the 64 bit beta version from adobe the only problem i can think of right know is the java firefox plugin
[15:12] <nightrid3r> senux space between dpkg and -reconfigure
[15:12] <Yellow_dog> PriChan: you're welcome
[15:12] <lecta> Hello ubuntu peoples - can someone post the most popular linux sites?
[15:12]  * ViperBorg is away.
[15:12] <wemdowemd> erUSUL: So anybody with the 64bit install gets no java?
[15:13] <erUSUL> Yellow_dog: you need the apropiate driver... ubuntu kernels come eith extra drivers... maybe that's the reason your wireless do not work with your custom kernel
[15:13] <scizzo-> senux: you are typing it in a terminal and the whole thing: sudo dpkg-reconfigure dhclient
[15:13] <scizzo-> senux: like that
[15:13] <daredevilthere> How to i compile kernel
[15:13] <scizzo-> senux: exactly like that
[15:13] <Squid> i got a problem .. i have to set up a Squid server on ubuntu. i've just done it on Windows server 2000 and 2003 .. so i know how to set it ... but i can't open the squid.config file .. it's says that i do not have enought rights to open it ...
[15:14] <s3a> wemdowemd, linux x86_64 has java according to google
[15:14] <Squid> can someone tell me how to open and modify the squid.config ?
[15:14] <Yellow_dog> Is there somebody who have the same problem like me with HP 6730s lap top?
[15:14] <zash> Squid: sudoedit
[15:14] <erUSUL> wemdowemd: you have java and there is a alternative java plugin for firefox the only thing lackin is the *official* *Sun* java *plugin* for mozill/firefox
[15:14] <wemdowemd> Oh, well I'm not too fussed about that. 64bit it is then, thanks everyone
[15:14] <SmokeyD> hey people. If I want to use multiple ip addresses on the same nic, should eth0 have the first ip address and eth0:0 the second one? or eth0:0 the first and eth0:1 the second?
[15:15] <Krissed> any if you ubuntu gurus who know how to remove or possibly reinstall wifi drivers ?
[15:15] <erUSUL> Squid: use sudo nano /path/to/squid.config
[15:15] <Yellow_dog> erUSUL: When I run ubuntu first on my lap top I get 2 issue to solve: 1 about the sound and another about the wireless
[15:15] <erUSUL> SmokeyD: it does not matter afaics
[15:15] <SmokeyD> erUSUL: ok, thanks
[15:16] <SmokeyD> erUSUL: what is afaics? I know afaik, but what is the cs?
[15:16] <erUSUL> SmokeyD: cs --> can see
[15:16] <senux> scizzo- : so what command in root i use
[15:16] <SmokeyD> erUSUL: :) thanks
[15:17] <Squid> tnx
[15:17] <Yellow_dog> eruSUL: sound problem was solved by updating my ALSA driver... but wireless persist to not work
[15:17] <pos69sum> having trouble getting networking on intrepid/dell latitude d7600 laptop
[15:17] <pos69sum> lspci is finding my nic - broadcom bcm5702x, but when i try to configure it for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces and restart networking, it doesn't connect
[15:17] <erUSUL> Yellow_dog: maybe installing linux-backports-modules-intrepid helps
[15:17] <pos69sum> no errors, just not connected
[15:18] <pos69sum> this is a fresh install of intrepid
[15:18] <LukaszJ> hello there. I'm following this guide on compiling UVC to solve a problem with a webcam. It mentions something about installing "linux-headers" packages along with the architecture, but I can find mine in the repos, its "2.6.24.23' Hardy 8.04. Listing all the "Linux-headers 2-6*" gives only this http://pastebin.com/m391edebe
[15:18] <pos69sum> any suggestions?
[15:18] <miha> pos69sum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1038226
[15:18] <miha> pos69sum: i think that applies to you, check it out
[15:18] <miha> pos69sum: that's for 8.10 version
[15:19] <erUSUL> LukaszJ: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[15:19] <miha> pos69sum: dont have it myself to test it
[15:19] <nomingzi> i m newbie, please advise how to install opera browser in my Ubuntu 8.10 x64 ?
[15:20] <nomingzi> can i use the command     sudo apt-get install opera*
[15:20] <lorenzosu> How can I get the filename without extension in a SH script?
[15:20] <daredevilthere> !fakeroot
[15:21] <Krissed> nomingzi id say yes
[15:21] <Krissed> daredevilthere fake root ??
[15:22] <miha> chroot? :)
[15:22]  * miha /bin/false :)
[15:22] <genii> !info fakeroot
[15:22] <LukaszJ> erUSUL: Well, if I type this will apt install it with the "386" architecture parameter, which, as it seems, it is required from 7.10?
[15:23] <nomingzi> the command listed a long long list of package asking me whether to proceed , i not sure to select "yes" bcos there are many package seem to be relevant
[15:23] <anglxs> guys can someone help me
[15:23] <nomingzi> sorry it seem to be "not" relevant package listed by the command     sudo apt-get install opera*
[15:24] <senux> helppp me
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> !helpme
[15:24] <Chousuke> nightrid3r: why the *?
[15:24] <lorenzosu> How can I obtain a filename without its extension ina BASH script?
[15:24] <erUSUL> LukaszJ: the command i gave installs the headers for the current running kernel if it is going to installlo 386 version that is becouse that is the kernel you are running
[15:24] <miha> lorenzosu: try #bash ?
[15:24] <avuton> My wifes' intel video driver is screwing up her video, is there a way to update it in 8.10 without taking the Jaunty leap?
[15:24] <oCean_> lorenzosu: use cut
[15:24] <Krissed> nomingzi try using the gui packet manager
[15:24] <Jack_Sparrow> lorenzosu /join #bash       or install the abs-guide
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> !info abs-guide
[15:25] <anglxs> if someone can help me with the streaming video plz pm me or something
[15:25] <lorenzosu> Jack_Sparrow: thx
[15:25] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[15:25] <saurabh> can anyonre tell me where do we need to keep the file in windows xp for sending it to remote system using put command
[15:25] <Chousuke> avuton: did you try simply removing xorg.conf?
[15:26] <oCean_> lorenzosu: use cut on the basename. See simple example: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112825/
[15:26] <avuton> Chousuke: yeah, that won't work; it completely misconfigures her display otherwise. Besides, I do know that it's technically being caused by the intel video driver.
[15:26] <nroza> anglxs: are you trying to serve or connect?
[15:26] <route66> qwqqwqwqw
[15:26] <anglxs> connect to live streaming tv. I could watch before but then i downloaded something and I guess I screwed up
[15:27] <nroza> anglxs: what client app you using?
[15:27] <lorenzosu> oCean_: ty
[15:27] <MetroGnome> How can I run ubunty on my computer?
[15:27]  * MetroGnome is a n00b
[15:27] <MetroGnome> *ubuntu
[15:28] <daredevilthere> MetroGnome: install it
[15:28] <LukaszJ> erUSUL: Got it now, thank you.
[15:28] <Krissed> MetroGnome uhmm you could try wubi from ubuntu.org
[15:28] <anglxs> nroza: sry im newb, do u mean for the video?
[15:28] <Chousuke> avuton: it's going to be difficult to upgrade the driver if you can't find a hardy repo for it.
[15:28] <Krissed> it lets you install it from windows if thats what you like
[15:28] <erUSUL> LukaszJ: no problem
[15:28] <Manix> By the way for those who were trying to help me earlier, the reason it wasn't working was because what I thought was a Hardware RAID controller is actually not. The FakeRaidHowTo site helped me out and I think I can get it working now... just have a reinstall everything
[15:28] <nroza> anglxs: yeah
[15:28] <Yellow_dog> erUSUL: how? what is the linux-backports-modules-intrepid helps?
[15:28] <saurabh> can anyonre tell me where do we need to keep the file in windows xp for sending it to remote system using put command
[15:28] <erUSUL> Yellow_dog: more up to date drivers
[15:28] <mshkaji> hi there can someone help me with the command to formart flash disk in ubuntu?
[15:29] <erUSUL> mshkaji: why not just use gparted ?
[15:29] <simono_> mshkaji: sure, what's your question?
[15:29] <nightrid3r> saurabh: anywhere you like, just cd there before starting your ftp session
[15:29] <senux> huah
[15:30]  * ViperBorg is back.
[15:30] <Krissed> mshkaji have you tried googling format drive in linux ?
[15:30] <simono_> mshkaji: http://linuxwave.blogspot.com/2007/06/how-to-format-your-flash-drive.html
[15:30] <Chousuke> avuton: which version of the driver is it?
[15:30] <saurabh> i did but it says file not foundd
[15:31] <nightrid3r> saurabh: or use filezilla, its a gui ftp program, very easy to use
[15:31] <daredevilthere> !build-essential
[15:31] <daredevilthere> !builtbot
[15:31] <Yellow_dog> erUSUL: where can I find it? and how can I setup this patch on kernel?
[15:32] <saurabh> its ok but i want the command mode for my college lab
[15:32] <daredevilthere> !build-common
[15:32] <mshkaji> thanx simono am just checking it...
[15:32] <erUSUL> Yellow_dog: it is on synaptic is package not a patch and it is a package compatible with the ubuntu kernel ( it does not work for custom kernels)
[15:32] <Krissed> erUSUL uhmm do you know if the wifi drivers in ubuntu are apt packets ? so i could remove my wifi drivers and reinstall them ?
[15:33] <nightrid3r> saurabh: cd c:\location\of\file ; then ftp remote-site ; then put filename
[15:33] <Chousuke> avuton: hardy-updates repo apparently has a newer version. did you try that one?
[15:33] <luxus> Whenever i try to play a streaming video it doesnt play it just shows an image and it stays there
[15:33] <erUSUL> Krissed: most if not all of them come with the kernel package
[15:33] <avuton> Chousuke: Chousuke 2:2.4.1-1ubuntu10
[15:33] <luxus> Anyone know what to do?
[15:33] <saurabh> pls help
[15:33] <avuton> Chousuke: any way you could link me to how I can do that specific package?
[15:33] <Chousuke> avuton: hm, wait, that's even newer...
[15:33] <saurabh> ya i did but it says file not found
[15:33]  * Chousuke is confused.
[15:33] <Chousuke> oh right duh
[15:33] <Chousuke> it's intrepid nowadyas :(
[15:34] <Chousuke> well, intrepid-updates also has a newer driver
[15:34] <Krissed> erUSUL well i was trying to patch my drivers (for injection) and it got messed up.. so id rather not have to reinstall the entire thing but rather reinstall the drivers.. any idea how i should do that ?
[15:34] <saurabh> login was succesful and i could get a file from my remote system
[15:34] <saurabh> but put is not working
[15:34] <nightrid3r> saurabh: remeber what you see in explorer is probably only part of the file name as explorer doesn't show the extension
[15:34] <avuton> Chousuke: awesome. Is it possible to update just that driver or do I have to do the whole repository?
[15:35] <Chousuke> avuton: well, you can enable the repo, update the driver, and then disable the repo again
[15:35] <erUSUL> Krissed: well as i said reinstall the kernel package...
[15:35] <avuton> Chousuke: oh? I think I'll do that. Thanks for the help
[15:35] <Chousuke> avuton: just with apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-intel
[15:35] <Krissed> erUSUL uhmm how do i do that ?
[15:35] <anglxs> I need help with firefox and streaming video. The problem is when i play a streaming video it just freezes right away. I downloaded gstream coders and stuff but they seem to collide with something else in my system. Any help?
[15:35] <Krissed> im not used to kernel stuff
[15:35] <MetroGnome> .
[15:35] <saurabh> i created a file s.txt and saw its name in properties
[15:35] <nightrid3r> saurabh: do you have write access to the ftp site
[15:35] <saurabh> its s.txt
[15:36] <Chousuke> avuton: if you want to be fancy about it, you can also give the -updates repo a lower priority than the standard repos, but that's pretty complicated :)
[15:36] <saurabh> the n i put it says file not found
[15:36] <erUSUL> Krissed: use synaptic or sudo apt-get install --reinstall [kernel-package]
[15:36] <Krissed> erUSUL oh and the kernel package would be the kernel version ?
[15:37] <erUSUL> Krissed: something like linux-image-kernelversion-generic or the like
[15:37] <Chousuke> avuton: just to make sure you don't make a mistake: the repo I mean is intrepid-updates, not hardy like I mistakenly said earlier :)
[15:37] <Krissed> oh thanks..
[15:37] <avuton> Chousuke: got it. Thanks alot :)
[15:38] <Chousuke> avuton: I think the rest of the packages in the -updates repo are recommended too, though, but you can of course choose not to install them
[15:38] <Chousuke> hopefully the driver will work.
[15:38] <Chousuke> good luck..
[15:38] <nightrid3r> saurabh: are you sure you are in the map where s.txt is before you start ftp
[15:38] <shally87> hi all..
[15:38] <shally87> does anyone got the original file for /etc/bind/named.conf
[15:38] <anglxs> I need help with streaming video :<
[15:39] <b^j> my gnome-panel appears to be hosed up, it is sitting their pegging my cpu and i can't click on any items in it.  I have tried killing it and it just comes back and does the same thing, i have tried a dpkg-reconfigure and an apt-get --reinstall install gnome-panel and these didn't fix the issue either. has anyone seen this or have any ideas?
[15:39] <shally87> does anyone got the original file for /etc/bind/named.conf .. could you copy and paste in the pastebin?
[15:40] <RPS> guys I keep losing my sound, I'm using Ubuntu 8.10 and I'm not having any other issues. I can do a simple reboot and everything will be fine. It might run 2 days or it might die after a couple of hours, but it always dies. If this is not the best channel could someone be kind enough to point me to a better choice?
[15:41] <Wolv3> guy when i move a file all go too slow
[15:41] <nickrud> b^j, you could do   gconftool --recursive-unset /apps/panel && killall gnome-panel ; that will restore the config to default
[15:41] <oCean_> shally87: from fresh install: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112832/
[15:41] <bigbrova2> RPS: am sure its a pulse audio issue
[15:42] <shally87> thanks oCean_ .. I just overwrite the file and i need to take it back..
[15:42] <lushu> este cineva roman?
[15:42] <bigbrova2> RPS:there was i link i used that helped .. i have to digg for it
[15:42] <b^j> nickrud, thanks, that fixed it!
[15:42] <RPS> I looked for a channel dealing with Pulse, but brought nothing back
[15:42] <anglxs> I need some help regarding streaming video issues on Mozilla can someone help?
[15:42] <nightrid3r> !ro
[15:43] <nickrud> ah, I'm slow :O
[15:43] <nickrud> yw b^j
[15:43] <oCean_> shally87: no need to point out that a backup of any config file is a wise thing to do I guess ;-)
[15:43] <Finnish_> Whats the fast command to get back to home$ in console?
[15:43] <RPS> bigbrova2, I have time to wait if you don't mind
[15:43] <nightrid3r> Finnish_: cd
[15:43] <fosco_> finalbeta: cd
[15:43] <nickrud> Finnish_, cd -
[15:43] <oCean_> Finnish_: cd
[15:43] <lushu> thx
[15:43] <Finnish_> Thanks
[15:43] <nickrud> erm, if home was last visited :(
[15:44] <Guest99217> is somewhere a german ubuntu chan?
[15:44] <Jack_Sparrow> !de
[15:44] <bigbrova2> RPS:http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 there you go
[15:44] <anglxs> I need help with firefox and streaming video. The problem is when i play a streaming video it just freezes right away. I downloaded gstream coders and stuff but they seem to collide with something else in my system. Any help?
[15:45] <RPS> bigbrova2, Thanks!
[15:45] <shally87> oCean_:  ok..thanks a lot again..you save me..
[15:45] <GaMbi_DK> Hi there.. I Installed a game half way (dvd1) and now wine asks for dvd2.. how do I eject? :) and if I do.. will the installer shutdown? :O
[15:45] <bigbrova2> RPS: you have got to take your time to read it through dont just jump to the solution .. no matter how hard it is to resist .. its better to have an understanding of the issue
[15:46] <bigbrova2> RPS: all the best
[15:46] <oCean_> shally87: np, glad to be of help
[15:46] <dr_Willis> GaMbi_DK,  i normally make a directrory, copy ALL the files from both disks to that directrory. then use wine to run the installer in that directory. - no disks needed then by wine. and it will intstall much faster
[15:47] <Talker> i need help with my internet connection on linux (ubuntu). I am connected to the wlan, but cannot ping any websites... what to do?
[15:47] <RPS> yes its all about the "learning"
[15:47] <Talker> cannot access any websites from a browser eather, for that matter.
[15:47] <kfyit> Talker-> do you have a route to get there?
[15:47] <anglxs> I need help with firefox and streaming video. The problem is when i play a streaming video it just freezes right away. I downloaded gstream coders and stuff but they seem to collide with something else in my system. Any help?
[15:47] <hostf4cekilla> Talker: how are you here now?
[15:47] <GaMbi_DK> dr_Willis, yea.. I see now that I might have to do that.. but since Iw came this fare.. can I change the DVD? or do I have to redo and copy all data to disc?
[15:47] <oCean_> Talker: is there a proxy in the wlan?
[15:48] <Talker> hmm.. how do i know? i hav windows pc's connected to the wlan. Just typed in the password..
[15:48] <dr_Willis> GaMbi_DK,  the problem is that using  'wine /path/to/cd/whatever.exe'  locks the cd - in many cases  - I dont recall any good fix's - i think cedega some how worked around it.
[15:48] <mtoroyarzo> anglxs perhaps the solution would be you use a extension like mediaplayerconnectivity for firefox
[15:48] <kfyit> Talker -> try to get assistance for windows in #windows perhaps
[15:49] <hyakuhei> Hi all, I have a hardy box, I've installed ubuntu-restricted-extras but I still can't see flash either in about:plugins or on a site like youtube when looking in firefox. Can someone help ?
[15:49] <bigbrova2> RPS: ubuntu implementation of PA is very bad .. in the end i had to dicth it for fedora 10 .. something i never imagined sould happen in my life time .. it was very painful (and emotional) but i need a working system
[15:49] <GaMbi_DK> ok.. will do a reinstall then :)
[15:49] <GaMbi_DK> thx dr_Willis
[15:49] <oCean_> Talker: see in the IE browser if there is proxy settings.. then use them in ubuntu/firefox
[15:49] <vitoon> soso
[15:49] <Talker> no.. i need help with a ubuntu pc. Just saying that the windows computers are working fine.
[15:49] <vitoon> i can help you
[15:49] <Talker> no proxy
[15:49] <oCean_> Talker: check proxy settings in IE browser
[15:49] <oCean_> Talker: ah
[15:50] <bigbrova2> Talker: lools to be you are behind a network proxy
[15:50] <oCean_> Talker: sure?
[15:50] <Talker> no, but i have not configured anything on the windows comp..
[15:51] <lytton> miha: it's worked, thanks a lot again
[15:51] <bigbrova2> if you have FF go to edit/advance/settings/network/ and set automatically detect proxy
[15:51] <hospodg> is there any way of booting from a live CD then using that live cd to boot into an existing ubuntu installation on a HDD ?
[15:51] <elena> hi
[15:51] <kfyit> Talker -> have you even check if your linux has an assigned ip address?
[15:51] <Talker> i has...
[15:51] <oCean_> Talker: check the options in the browser on windows (IE? FF?)... I'm not sure where, I have not been there for quite a while...
[15:51] <elena> I've installed 8.10 on my notebook but now my webcam doesn't works it was working with 8.04..any hint?
[15:51] <kelle> hi all
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> hospodg You can use live cd to fix your install, not really boot into it
[15:52] <bigbrova2> Talker:windows sometimes have been set to automatically detect proxy settings
[15:52] <miha> Caesi: great:)
[15:52] <Jack_Sparrow> hospodg Perhaps you should explain a bit more about what you did
[15:52] <kelle> hi all waz up
[15:52] <bigbrova2> pastebin ifconfig
[15:52] <kfyit> hospodg -> you seemed to be same person asking this a few weeks back, exact same issues, and we already told you no
[15:52] <bigbrova2> Talker:pastebin ifconfig
[15:52] <Talker> i'll try
[15:53] <bigbrova2> pastebin ifconfig
[15:53] <bigbrova2> Talker: to see if you have an ip
[15:53] <anglxs> mtoroyarzo: thnx i downloaded but it can't play the specific stream. Do you know any codec packages ?
[15:53] <anglxs> mtoroyarzo: btw I try it on mplayer
[15:54] <bigbrova2> bigbrova2: if you have an ip and you still cant connect or ping .. then am thinking proxy .. or your gateway is down
[15:54] <bigbrova2> Talker: if you have an ip and you still cant connect or ping .. then am thinking proxy .. or your gateway is down
[15:55] <bigbrova2> need to stop drinking .. talking to my self on a public irc lol
[15:55] <mrglinux1> in network connection in vpn window add is disabled
[15:55] <mtoroyarzo> anglxs try with vlc media player
[15:55] <anglxs> I tried and I get this message
[15:55] <anglxs> Your input can't be opened:
[15:55] <anglxs> VLC is unable to open the MRL 'mms://a1970.l3277749969.c32777.g.lm.akamaistream.net/D/1970/32777/v0001/REFlector:49969'. Check the log for details.
[15:55] <MaarekStele> bigbrova2, 12 steps
[15:56] <bigbrova2> MaarekStele: ?
[15:57] <xian> hi, what was that command-line tool called again that could be used for modeline generation?
[15:57] <MaarekStele> bigbrova2, oh, I'm just joking about an AA meeting being held here
[15:58] <Yellow_dog> erSUL: I find it on my synaptic
[15:58] <xian> solved. i was looking for gtf
[15:58] <Photoguy> So, I have ann Ubuntu .iso now how can I boot from a flash drive?
[15:58] <xian> thanks.
[15:58] <Talker> justed checked. now i'm not even connected...
[15:58] <Talker> just "trying to connect"
[15:58] <bigbrova2> MaarekStele: hehe i guess as much ... i dont think am that bad .. at least i can stop if i want -thing is will want to stop :)
[15:59] <Talker> how do i connect manually?
[15:59] <kfyit> !install | Photoguy
[15:59] <Talker> or making it to connect again?
[16:00] <bigbrova2> Talker: what you mean manually .. ?
[16:00] <bigbrova2> Talker: u mean manually configure networking?
[16:00] <MaarekStele> bigbrova2, my wife's pregnant, so I feel bad if I even have 1 drink.  I mostly drink around other people rather than in front of my television.
[16:01] <bft> how to I troubleshoot an install when they freeze up immediately and only says starting up...  Its on a fresh install if 8.10 ubuntu  tried 8.04 with the same results?
[16:01] <Talker> how do i connect to the wlan? i have set it up in a manager, with pass and everything. set on auto. But i'm not connected..
[16:01] <Talker> was yesterday
[16:01] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[16:01] <bigbrova2> Talker: try sudo dhclient
[16:01] <md22> hello
[16:01] <md22> where can i find some tutorials on how to create software packages in ubuntu
[16:01] <silv3r_m00n> in my keyboard when numlock led glows then numlock inactive and when numlock light off then numlock active
[16:01] <TC`> Hello, who could give me advice about port forwarding from windows mashine to ubuntu server.
[16:02] <kfyit> md22 -> google is your friend
[16:02] <bigbrova2> Talker: is your connection auto or manual? and what version of network manager are u running?
[16:02] <bft> any advice on troubleshooting a machine that wont boot after install simply says starting up...
[16:03] <md22> kfyit:yeah i know. just thought some ubunut developers would lead me straight to the source :)
[16:03] <bigbrova2> MaarekStele: wow .. well am not married .. yet .. so i guess i have to drink up before that happens
[16:04] <Talker> bigbrova2: Hehey! it worked. I'm now connected with the wlan, AND haveing\
[16:04] <Talker> internet...
[16:04] <bigbrova2> Talker: what worked . dhclient?
[16:04] <quibbler> md22: maybe try in the ubuntu forums...Development & Programming
[16:04] <Talker> dhclient, yes
[16:05] <kfyit> !who | Talker
[16:05] <Talker> i'm running Network Manager applet 0.7.0
[16:06] <Skeptiker> Hi! I am trying to install a module so that my webcam will work. However when running make it tells me that the folder "/lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/build" does not exist. How can I add the appropriate folder?
[16:06] <bigbrova2> Talker: cool i always get that issue with netwrok manager 0.6 .. it would connect to the wireless but won get an ip till dhclient .. seem to be caused by a kernel upgrade .. are what version of buntu do u run ?
[16:06] <Talker> bigbrova2: hehe... whats the fastest way to check? :p
[16:07] <kfyit> !info build-essentials | Skeptiker
[16:07] <nyaa> if you use usb keyboards you can plug in a ton of them and then play hungry hunrgy hippos
[16:07] <Cobra_Slow> Hello, please read my problem there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057913
[16:07] <bigbrova2> Talker> i think lsb-realse -a but am not sure
[16:07] <Bodsda> !info build-essential | Skeptiker
[16:07] <oCean_> Skeptiker: install the kernel-headers The build directory is actualy a link to the headers directory
[16:07] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, please read my problem there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057913
[16:09] <Talker> bigbrova2: well.. it's ver 8.10. not shure about kernel
[16:09] <shausam27> hi i'm trying to get audacity to record but it has it stuck on mic i try to change it but i see no way to do that it worked in 7.10 can any one help
[16:09] <silv3r_m001> hi there
[16:10] <NET||abuse> Hi all,, working on setting up a server for our office, i wanted to do a kind of windows DC replacement, but setup from scratch, no need to migrate.. I see a system call KoLab out there, but i was hoping to build it myself using hardy as my base
[16:10] <silv3r_m001> when numpad active then numpad-led off and vice versa...i.e. the numpad led indicates the reverse ubuntu 8.04 kde 3.5  how can I fix this
[16:10] <silv3r_m001> ?
[16:10] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, please read my problem there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057913 - my cursor is invisible on left screen, white square on right screen - 'SWCursor' and 'HWCursor' options have no effect
[16:10] <bigbrova2> Talker:its this lsb_release -a
[16:10] <Skeptiker> kfyit, according to Synaptics build-essential is already installed
[16:10] <jonaskoelker1> how do I build fglrx.ko for 2.6.28-6-generic?
[16:11] <bigbrova2> Talker: cat /proc/verison  for kernel version
[16:11] <plazia> can anyone offer any suggestions as to why firefox is so slow? I don't mean the network speed. I read all about the IPv6 thing. It's not network speed it's like the whole UI is really slow compared to windows version.
[16:11] <bft> anyone know where to start troubleshooting a maching that wont boot after a fresh install all it says is starting up
[16:11] <plazia> Not html element rendering speed either. just general UI speed. like serious UI latency/delay
[16:11] <kfyit> Skeptiker -> now add in kernel-headers
[16:11] <oCean_> Skeptiker: see if the kernel-headers are installed..
[16:11] <NET||abuse> Has anyone got a good starting point to learn how to build up the essential services for Hardy? I'll just need ldap, dns, dhcp, postfix&[dovecot|courier|cyrusimap]&samba
[16:11] <bigbrova2> bigbrova2: am surprised the problem exist in ibex .. thought nm0.7 woulda fixed it
[16:12] <WyHiWyL> how to disable Update Notification (the red arrow icon on the taskbar) ?
[16:12] <NET||abuse> at this stage i have dns and dhcp firgured out, i have dovecot and postfix in place, but i need to setup a devent ldap environment to manage all the users, and one that will work with samba also
[16:12] <bigbrova2> damn! spoke to me self again
[16:12] <NET||abuse> umm, /devent/decent/
[16:12] <bigbrova2> Talker: bigbrova2: am surprised the problem exist in ibex .. thought nm0.7 woulda fixed it .. although i know wicd never gave me that problem
[16:13] <defenderz> can anyone tell me about this configured video device, configured monitor deal. where exactly are these configs stored?
[16:13] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, please read my problem there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057913 - my cursor is invisible on left screen, white square on right screen - 'SWCursor' and 'HWCursor' options have no effect
[16:14] <defenderz> relating to xorg
[16:14] <Dmole> I made an ntfs partition with ubuntu and xp won't read it  ... help?
[16:14] <TC`> quit
[16:14] <TC`> quit
[16:14] <dropbear> WyHiWyL: go to system -> preferences -> sessions and uncheck update notifer
[16:14] <jonaskoelker> Dmole: you could try making one with XP
[16:14] <horstle> hi
[16:15] <Talker> bigbrova2: 2.6.27-9-generic, ubuntu 4.3.2
[16:16] <Dmole> jonaskoelker: problem is that I have lota data on it
[16:16] <jonaskoelker> when I install linux-image-2.6.28-6-generic, something complains during the building of the fglrx driver that I don't have the kernel sources for 2.6.28.  What do I do to build fglrx.ko?
[16:16] <Squid> does anyone know where to find a squid.conf file just ready where i can modify all the settings ?
[16:16] <jonaskoelker> Dmole: and you can't move it away while recreating it?
[16:16] <defenderz> anyone know about the configured things in xorg
[16:16] <jonaskoelker> defenderz: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:16] <defenderz> like the monitor, where is that config stored when xorg does Configured Monitor
[16:17] <Dmole> jonaskoelker: don't feel like buying an extra HD
[16:17] <ia> hello. does anyone know something about this - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+bug/323852
[16:17] <jonaskoelker> Dmole: I'm not asking you to :)  -- where did you have the data before creating the partition?
[16:17] <bigbrova2> Talker> well i think its a bug .. lets hope its fixed soon .. mainwhile you just have to get used to running dhclient everytime you connect via wireless .. or install wicd
[16:17] <WyHiWyL> dropbear: thx
[16:17] <defenderz> jonaskoelker: no in xorg.conf it will say Configured Monitor, instead of something like Syncmaster 763MB
[16:18] <defenderz> on hardy
[16:18] <jonaskoelker> defenderz: I guess I don't understand your question then.  You want to know where the configuration of "Configured Monitor" is?
[16:18] <Talker> what is ibex, nm0.7 and wicd?
[16:18] <defenderz> yes
[16:19] <defenderz> its automatically generated
[16:19] <jonaskoelker> Talker: the latest Ubuntu release, the latest (I think) version of network manager, and an alternative to network manager
[16:19] <GNUtoo> hello, i'd like to use the ubuntu kernel and initrd with a crypto device on raid...that has another distro inside...how do I do that?
[16:19] <jonaskoelker> defenderz: could be, let's assume that...
[16:19] <GNUtoo> it's for testing purposes
[16:19] <dropbear> jonaskoelker: "Configured Montitor" is just an identifier you could put anything there as long as you use it consistently in your xorg.conf
[16:19] <Talker> jonaskoelker: thanks
[16:19] <jonaskoelker> Talker: yw :)
[16:20] <jonaskoelker> dropbear: that's correct
[16:20] <defenderz> dropbear: but when xorg uses that identifier what is fetched
[16:20] <Skeptiker> oCean_, must the number match "2.6.24-19-generic" exactly? Because a "2.6.24-17" is installed but not a "2.6.24-19-generic" (which doesn't seem to exist). And I can not find any mentioning of kernel-headers when running the command info build-essential
[16:20] <oCean_> Skeptiker: yes, headers should match the "uname -r" version
[16:20] <Talker> jonaskoelker and bigbrova2: what is best of nm, and wicd? maybe i should change?
[16:21] <Cobra_Fast> Hello, please read my problem there: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1057913 - my cursor is invisible on left screen, white square on right screen - 'SWCursor' and 'HWCursor' options have no effect
[16:21] <Dmole> jonaskoelker: the data is new
[16:21] <jonaskoelker> Talker: write your own networking scripts.  NM sucks balls :P
[16:21] <Skeptiker> oCean_, I tried "$ sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" but it gave me no results
[16:21] <oCean_> Skeptiker: "sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)" would install the matching headers
[16:21] <Talker> jonaskoelker:  hehe.. okay.. :p
[16:21] <jonaskoelker> Talker: put in family-friendly language, NM has limitations; it doesn't do bonding, for one
[16:21] <oCean_> Skeptiker: "no" results?
[16:21] <Jack_Sparrow> jonaskoelker Please drop the colorful language.. thanks
[16:21] <dropbear> defenderz: xorg.conf contains the configuration itself, if not configured there devices are autodetected and defaults are used
[16:22] <bigbrova2> Talker: well it depends .. i wont advise you to .. but if network manager that you use really pisses you off then you can wicd a try .. but since you are new to ubuntu .. i would say still to running dhclient for now
[16:22] <Skeptiker> oCean_, it's empty. Nothing is being displayed
[16:22] <dirty> is there a shortcut key for jumping between desktops?
[16:22] <jonaskoelker> Jack_Sparrow: it's not the color but the shape that's offensive ;)  it's dropped :)
[16:22] <Jack_Sparrow> ty
[16:22] <shausam27> need some help with audacity it is stuck on using the mic i tried change it but mo luck  it worked fine in 7.10 but now in 8.4 and 8.10 will not change l/o  to line
[16:22] <defenderz> dropbear: my resolution in ubuntu only allows resolution up 1024x768 in the screen resolution, I need to tell xorg my exact monitor
[16:23] <mrglinux1>  how connect to vpn ?
[16:23] <jonaskoelker> mrglinux1: install vpnc, write a config file and run vpnc-connect
[16:23] <Jack_Sparrow> dirty ctrl-alt left or right
[16:23] <Talker> jonaskoelker: dont have any linux scripting experience. But in general, yoo're meaning a script that's setting up resolv.conf for every boot?
[16:23] <oCean_> Skeptiker: I don't get it. There is no output *at all* ?
[16:23] <defenderz> maybe that old  screens config app
[16:23] <jonaskoelker> mrglinux1: or install a plugin for NM and set up a connection through it
[16:23] <bigbrova2> Talker:beside nm0.7 is awesome .. although wich is a no nonsense application .. not as awesome as nm in term of features but it just works
[16:23] <dirty> slick, thnx
[16:23] <jonaskoelker> mrglinux1: apt-cache search network manager vpnc (I think)
[16:24] <Jack_Sparrow> defenderz 1024 is common for people running under vesa and not using real drivers for their chipsets
[16:24] <jonaskoelker> Talker: nah, dhclient3 will write your /etc/resolv.conf
[16:24] <bigbrova2> Talker:wich = wicd
[16:24] <oCean_> Skeptiker: the starting "$" isn't actually in the command is it? That is only part of your (shell) prompt
[16:24] <defenderz> dropbear: odd because im using the restricted drivers for my nvidia card
[16:25] <bigbrova2> KenSentMe:not dhclient3, dhlient
[16:25] <Jack_Sparrow> defenderz what do you see in your xorg?
[16:25] <yao_ziyuan> are there ubuntu/kubuntu 9.04 test isos?
[16:25] <defenderz> i try and use the config to set res but changes are temporary
[16:25] <Talker> bigbrova2: i could run the dhclient command automatically on boot?
[16:25] <jonaskoelker> Talker: I think it's really only necessary to script stuff if your networking setup is complex or involves features that NM doesn't support
[16:25] <Skeptiker> oCean_, I just upgraded my computer and maybe it hasn't been added to my local database? And your last question: Nope, I did run it properly (i.e. without "$")
[16:25] <bigbrova2> KenSentMe>dhclient*
[16:25] <defenderz> !paste
[16:25] <jonaskoelker> Talker: just put "auto eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces
[16:25] <jonaskoelker> hey all, is there a filename tab completion plugin for pidgin?
[16:26] <Besogon> mrglinux1: use networl-manager. You must install before pptp-linux package
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> defenderz sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[16:26] <defenderz> dropbear:http://paste.ubuntu.com/112852/
[16:26] <Talker> jonaskoelker: and that fixes all?
[16:26] <jonaskoelker> how do I build ATI driver modules for my shiny new kernel?
[16:26] <jonaskoelker> Talker: for your wired interface, yeah
[16:26] <Jack_Sparrow> jonaskoelker Which kernel?
[16:26] <jonaskoelker> Jack_Sparrow: 2.6.28-6-generic
[16:27] <bigbrova2> Talker: you can but its a long process .. so just stick to running it everytime you want to connect .. try upgrading your system to the latest upgrade
[16:27] <miha> jonaskoelker: http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/linux/linux-radeon.html well get it here, it builds for you?
[16:27] <oCean_> Skeptiker: local database as in you are running a local repository mirror? Anyway, try searching (your) repos.. "sudo apt-get update" and "apt-cache search linux-headers"
[16:27] <dropbear> defenderz: did you try nvidia-settings to set your resolution?
[16:27] <Talker> jonaskoelker: have wlan
[16:27] <GNUtoo> anyone knows how to boot raid and or crypto drives on ubuntu?
[16:27] <Jack_Sparrow> jonaskoelker Perhaps ubuntu +1 since that isnt our kernel
[16:27] <jonaskoelker> miha: it seems like ubuntu is set up to build kernel modules for me.  I'd rather want that to work
[16:28] <miha> ok
[16:28] <defenderz> dropbear: i have exprimented with using nvidia config to completely rewrite xorg.conf and the changes stuck but then problems seemed to arise with compiz
[16:28] <miha> there's also some tool called 'envy' :) if ubuntu magic fails
[16:28] <jonaskoelker> Jack_Sparrow: uhh, jaunty is in my /etc/apt/sources.list, I think that might be it
[16:28] <silv3r_m001> hi there
[16:28] <Talker> bigbrova2: so there is no file to put a command in? *No easy way, like window's startup folder?
[16:28] <silv3r_m001> which package in synaptic contains the kernel source files or the source files of the distro
[16:28] <Jack_Sparrow> jonaskoelker Perhaps ubuntu +1 is a better choince for the help you need
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !build-essentials
[16:29] <jonaskoelker> Jack_Sparrow: ah
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !info build-essentials
[16:29] <dropbear> defenderz: nvidia-settings is the gui tool to set up your nvidia adapter. maybe you need to install it first: sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> !info build-essential
[16:29] <hatter243> Jack_Sparrow, build-essential
[16:29] <Jack_Sparrow> thanks hatter243
[16:29] <defenderz> dropbear: things like compiz being enable, saying effects could not be enable, but they were but were enable but without window title bars and from some reason the gnome-terminal just should up as white
[16:29] <adam__> telnet sdf.lonestar.org
[16:29] <adam__> mistell
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> hatter243 one factoid uses an s the other does not
[16:30] <jonaskoelker> Jack_Sparrow: so which kernel is supported for 8.10 and how do I get fglrx.ko for it?
[16:30] <Talker> bigbrova2: so there is no file to put a command in? *No easy way, like window's startup folder?
[16:30] <miha> jonaskoelker: i got .27 and ati fglrx works, both ubuntu
[16:30] <bigbrova2> Talker: there is a start up folder .. .. but remember you need to run it with admin privilage which means that it needs to be part of ur init startup scripts
[16:30] <Jack_Sparrow> 27.9 at least
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !startup
[16:31] <unanxbt> which is the most famous video editor software?
[16:31] <Jack_Sparrow> !polls
[16:31] <genii> siliconmeadow: kernel header sources are named like: linux-headers-(specific kernel version here)              entire kernel source is named like: linux-source-(specific kernel version here)
[16:31] <jonaskoelker> :( "envyng -g": make sure envyng-qt is installed
[16:31] <jonaskoelker> wtf?  I want to run the gtk version of envyng and it tells me to install the kde (well, qt) version?
[16:31] <defenderz> dropbear: thats what is used to apply the changes to xorg before, but its odd, in the system admin menu if you run nvidia-settings it runs as the local user and can't write to xorg but if you run gksu nvidia-settings and try to write it works.
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> genii sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-`uname -r`
[16:32] <sidewalk> how do i configure my hotkeys in Ubuntu 8.10 ?
[16:32] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[16:32] <bigbrova2> Talker the gnome/kde startup manager are for applications that are loaded once the system is setup .. esp apps normal applications ... ubuntu and windows have diff approaches to startup in the case
[16:32] <jonaskoelker> sidewalk: xbindkeys and xmodmap for the win ;)
[16:32] <genii> Jack_Sparrow: They are also deprecating this. So the meta will just be -i386 or -generic   or so and not specific rev
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> sidewalk be aware there are several predefined in compiz that may cause you some issues..  /join #compiz for more info
[16:33] <jonaskoelker> sidewalk: if you don't mind editing config files... xev is helpful for xmodmap, xbindkeys is fairly straightforward
[16:33] <dropbear> defenderz: ..so if you use gksu nvidia-settings you can't select your desired resolution?
[16:33] <sidewalk> Jack_Sparrow: i have buttons assigned to for example "XF86AudioMedia", how do i change what that button does?
[16:33] <Besogon> jonaskoelker: you can run envy in terminal
[16:33] <Jack_Sparrow> sidewalk Read the tutorial.. I dont have extra buttons
[16:33] <mrglinux1> jonaskoelker i installed it has getway and ... but i set it doesn't work .. my friend on winxp said me worked and connected .. do you and how to suggest
[16:34] <sidewalk> Jack_Sparrow: what tutorial? :D
[16:34] <ludri> How can I add a program without installer to Wine Programs menu, I copied the program folder into "program files". But I cant see it form the applications menu under Wine -> programs
[16:34] <hospodg> is there a file i can execute that will boot ubuntu? I would like to boot ubuntu from another OS
[16:34] <Jack_Sparrow> !keys
[16:34] <jonaskoelker> mrglinux1: I don't understand...
[16:34] <jonaskoelker> mrglinux1: what did you itstall; do you mean getway = gateway?
[16:34] <nickrud> hospodg, and have the original os still running? look into virtualbox, vmware or wubi
[16:35] <sipior> hospodg: you'll want to look into virtualisation: virtualbox will do what you need, as will vmware.
[16:35] <Jack_Sparrow> hospodg May I have a word with you please
[16:35] <bigbrova2> Talker: for dhclient to work .. u need to be connected to a network .. what dhclient does is ask your dhcp server for an ip ..  its would be hard adding it to your startup script  because it would require your passwd and stuff and adding it to your init bootup scripts would be unless since the system only connect to wirless once you are booted up
[16:35] <jonaskoelker> hospodg: you may also want to look into colinux
[16:35] <hospodg> no i want the original OS to shut down
[16:35] <mrglinux1> jonaskoelker sorry yes .. in ubuntu 8.10 network manager vpn connection and i added
[16:35] <hospodg> Jack_Sparrow, is there a problem
[16:36] <Jack_Sparrow> hospodg If you are still trying to boot live and jump ship to the other OS  the answer is still NO
[16:36] <jonaskoelker> Jack_Sparrow: I installed linux-image-2.6.27-11-generic and get "Kernel source for 2.6.27-11-generic not installed.  Cannot install this module" for both fglrx and vboxdrv
[16:36] <Krstnsn> can anyone name a good reason/fix that mount.ntfs runs my cpu up to 90% when im not reading or writing to a ntfs partition.
[16:36] <bigbrova2> Talker: am still a noob at this thing so dont take my words as gospel .. google it ..
[16:36] <Besogon> mrglinux1: gateway for vpn through Ethernet YOU must have written in eth0 routing
[16:36] <jonaskoelker> Krstnsn: the code is crap? :P
[16:37] <Slart_> Krstnsn: some background thing? updatedb? some media player searching for music?
[16:37] <Skeptiker> oCean_, I've run your commands and still no "linux-headers-2.6.24-19-generic"
[16:37] <dayo_> bigbrova2: sign on to yahoo
[16:37] <jonaskoelker> listen to Slart_, he's actually thinking about it :D
[16:37] <Krstnsn> nothing is running but xchat. wine, and utorrent.
[16:37] <Krstnsn> well and x
[16:37] <Krstnsn> it does it fro bootup...
[16:38] <mrglinux1> Besogon ip from my vpn server ?
[16:38] <Jack_Sparrow> tracker - Krstnsn
[16:38] <dropbear> Krstnsn: indexing service like tracker or googledesktop is indexing your ntfs mounts, still not a good reason to hog your cpu though...
[16:38] <bigbrova2> dayo_: sad even on irc .. when would this madness end ?
[16:38] <Chiliblack> does anyone use mediatomb UPnP server here
[16:38] <jonaskoelker> Slart: <--- ...ibartfast? ;)
[16:38] <oCean_> Skeptiker: is your sources.list in order? Searching for other packages in the repos works?
[16:38] <Krstnsn> ya i use google desktop forgot about that.. what if the googledesktop app isnt using any resources at all?
[16:38] <dayo_> bigbrova2: sign on, u work-ditcher!
[16:38] <Slart> jonaskoelker: yes.. the very same.. coming up with original nicks for irc is hard..
[16:39] <Kakinho_> .
[16:39] <bigbrova2> dayo_: am on the acrh box and havent found the time to install pidgin .. my laptop is off for the day
[16:39] <Besogon> mrglinux1: sorry I must go
[16:39] <mrglinux1> what is NT domain ?
[16:39] <Slart> Krstnsn: it's waiting for the ntfs-driver to give it data? =)
[16:39] <Rhorse> OT: Does anyone know why the Octanews web server is down and the web site expired? Please pm me.
[16:39] <Skeptiker> oCean_, yes. The command "apt-cache search linux-headers" gave me a list but not including the one I need
[16:39] <Slart> mrglinux1: a way to centralize authentication and stuff in windows land
[16:40] <Krstnsn> guess imna have to try running with out googdesktop
[16:40] <Slart> Krstnsn: can't you just tell it to stay away from your ntfs-drives?
[16:40] <oCean_> Skeptiker: what kernel are you actually running?
[16:40] <NET||abuse> ooh,, anyone looked at or used eBox, ebox-platform.com  seems to be free and open.
[16:40] <mrglinux1> Slart i installed pptpd on my debian server and config it but i don't know how to config my client here in ubuntu 8.10
[16:41] <Krstnsn> maybe.. im running nothing but xchat and its still going 86%, 80%, 90%, etc.
[16:41] <Krstnsn> sucks
[16:41] <Skeptiker> oCean_, "Linux ubuntu 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Wed Aug 20 22:56:21 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux"
[16:41] <Rhorse> !off topic
[16:41] <Rhorse> !ot
[16:41] <Slart> mrglinux1: pptpd?
[16:41] <mrglinux1> Slart yes i installed it
[16:41] <genii> mrglinux1: network-manager-pptp or pptp-linux might be useful
[16:41] <Slart> Krstnsn: does it go down if you unmount the ntfs drive?
[16:42] <Slart> mrglinux1: what is it? I'm not familiar with it
[16:42] <joshjtl> anyone know if I can remove text from icons in nautilus, and if I can make the icons smaller?
[16:42] <Krstnsn> ive never tried unmounting. i didnt know how safe it was to unmount it.
[16:42] <Krstnsn> im assuming its my windows side partition
[16:42] <oCean_> Skeptiker: that being hardy?
[16:42] <Slart> Krstnsn: it probably won't let you unmount it if it's being accessed
[16:42] <Krstnsn> cause i dont have any externals or anything
[16:42] <saurabh> when i send an mp4 or dat file through ftp then it says invalid argument
[16:43] <Slart> saurabh: you're probably not doing it right then
[16:43] <saurabh> can anyone help
[16:43] <Skeptiker> oCean_, oh sorry. I am running 8.10 "Intrepid Ibex"
[16:43] <mrglinux1> Slart something like openvpn
[16:43] <shingalated> saurabh, how are you sending the file?
[16:43] <oCean_> Skeptiker: but old kernel? I'm on intrepid and running 2.6.27-11
[16:43] <saurabh> by using put command
[16:44] <Slart> mrglinux1: oh.. I'm useless then.. never done that and I hope I never have to.. it seems to be more trouble than it's worth
[16:44] <saurabh> i have done ftp from windows xp to ubuntu 8.10
[16:44] <Skeptiker> oCean_, maybe I need to upgrade the kernel? I'll see if I find a tutorial
[16:44] <saurabh> now get or put is not working
[16:44] <shingalated> saurabh, Hmm..that should work have you tried it through the GUI "Connect to server" in the Places menu?
[16:45] <joshjtl> anyone know if I can remove text from icons in nautilus, and if I can make the icons smaller?
[16:45] <Slart> saurabh: is this isolated to only mp4 or dat files? do any files work?
[16:46] <shingalated> joshjtl, which icons?  The toolbar icons of the file/folders?
[16:46] <joshjtl> shingalated: toolbar sorry
[16:46] <oCean_> Skeptiker: you upgraded ubuntu, but not the kernel? Upgrading might be a good idea, but not if you had a really good reason not to do so before ...
[16:47] <shingalated> joshjtl, go to system>preferences>appearence and then choose the Interface tab and set toolbar icon labels to "Icons only"
[16:47] <Skeptiker> oCean_, the update manager told me that there is a new ubuntu version and I just followed along. I did not know how to upgrade the kernel at the same time :)
[16:47] <durix> nabend
[16:49] <oCean_> Skeptiker: hm.. for some reason the update mgr skipped the kernel upgrade. I'm not sure why, and there might be a good reason for it.
[16:49] <Chocotoff> Hello... How does one completely remove a package, not leaving behind any configs. Let´s say of samba
[16:49] <Slart> Chocotoff: apt-get purge
[16:50] <sidewalk> anyone know how i get hotkeys working in VLC?
[16:50] <Chocotoff> and when i reinstall it has the default configs again?
[16:50] <Slart> Chocotoff: or apt-get remove --purge.. it does the same thing in ubuntu
[16:50] <Slart> Chocotoff: it should, yes
[16:50] <durix> apt-get --purge   samba
[16:50] <Chocotoff> alright ill try
[16:50] <Skeptiker> oCean_, would you recommend me to upgrade the kernel? I am using a laptop and an Intel core 2 Duo (for what it's worth)
[16:50] <Slart> Chocotoff: of course you need to sudo that..
[16:50] <Mega_65994> hello
[16:50] <durix> hello mega
[16:50] <Slart> hello Mega_65994
[16:51] <joshjtl> does anyone use an alternative to the regular gnome menu?
[16:51] <Chocotoff> Thanks, it worked...
[16:52] <Slart> !anyone | joshjtl
[16:52] <Slart> Chocotoff: you're welcome
[16:52] <oCean_> oCean_: since I have no clue as to why during upgrade your kernel was left at old level, I would not recommend it. However, maybe someone else here knows a a safe way to do so.
[16:52] <jackmayol> hi
[16:52] <jackmayol> anyone in here?
[16:52] <oCean_> !hi | jackmayol
[16:53] <Slart> jackmayol: yes.. 1417 of us here.. not including you..
[16:53] <jackmayol> lol
[16:53] <saurabh> can i login through root user from ftp
[16:53] <saurabh> hello
[16:53] <jackmayol> I just bought new PC components (mobo, gpu, cpu and ram). Now I gonna switch from 8.10-32 to 8.10-64, what do I have to backup to keep my settings after a reinstall ? I dont wanna lose my eye candy stuff, took me ages to configure. Sorry I'm quite new to linux
[16:53] <oCean_> Skeptiker: arg, I wrote your line to myself. Did you get that?
[16:53] <Slart> saurabh: since the root user doesn't have a password in ubuntu I doubt it
[16:54] <Slart> jackmayol: your home folder has a lot of configs.. also /etc
[16:54] <Skeptiker> oCean_, okay. Thanks! I'll look further into it. THanks for your help anyways
[16:55] <pregier> Is there any particular way/place to find out how broken firefox/flash/pulse is in 8.XX on any given day?  I'm using http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 to configure both 8.04 and 8.10 and want to know if my random firefox crashes are (a) pulse/flash-related and (b) typical
[16:55] <oCean_> Skeptiker: ok!
[16:55] <jackmayol> Slart ok
[16:55] <joshjtl> Slart: just because I used the word "anyone" doesn't mean I didn't ask my question... I did.
[16:56] <Slart> joshjtl: ok, the answer is "yes", you're welcome =)
[16:56] <jackmayol> and can I reinstall 8.10/64 "over" 8.10/32 ? or does things get messed up?
[16:56] <joshjtl> Slart: what do you use?
[16:56] <Slart> joshjtl: oh no you don't.. no follow up questions..
[16:56] <joshjtl> hehe why not?
[16:57] <Slart> joshjtl: that's what the !anyone factoid is about.. why not ask for suggestions for gnome menu alternatives instead if that's what you wanted?
[16:57] <joshjtl> Slart: ok
[16:57] <Slart> joshjtl: but I won't be nasty.. I use the AWN menu thingy
[16:57] <Slart> joshjtl: I'm not terribly happy with it though..
[16:58] <joshjtl> does anyone use an alternative to the gnome menu, if so what?
[16:58] <joshjtl> Slart: thats part of AWN right? can't be used separately ?
[16:58] <usr13> Trying to install kubuntu-desktop on Ubuntu 8.04 I think I have it installed, but do not know how to cofigure X to load KDE instead of Gnome.
[16:59] <Slart> joshjtl: I don't think it can used separately... it's an AWN applet
[16:59] <joshjtl> ok thanks Slart
[16:59] <Raphi974>  joshjtl did you try USP ?
[16:59] <Photoguy> Ubuntu is stopping at the login screen, it show's the background, and the "wait" cursor, but it just sits there doing nothing, I need help!
[17:00] <usr13> Can anyone tell me how to configure the Xserver to use KDE instead on Gnome?  Or how to make it so I have a choice at the login manager?
[17:00] <joshjtl> Raphi974: I haven't tried it for awhile... is it any good now? I remember it being slow and resource heavy
[17:00] <saurabh_>  can i login through root user from ftp
[17:00] <Raphi974> usr13, do you have GDM or KDM installed ?
[17:00] <sipior> saurabh_: why would you want to do such a thing?
[17:00] <Raphi974> joshjtl, I didn't try it for a while...
[17:00] <Jack_Sparrow> usr13 Once you have installed the other wm it should be under options where you login
[17:00] <usr13> Raphi974: I have KDM installed and KDE4-KDM too
[17:01] <Jack_Sparrow> usr13 You can also set the default wm in there
[17:01] <Raphi974> usr13, When you type your username, then click on Session, and change for KDE, then type your password
[17:01] <saurabh_> actually i want to share things in between two computers so permissions creating problem
[17:01] <Raphi974> usr13, it will ask you if you want to make it default or not
[17:01] <dr_Willis> Hit  'F10' if you cant find the seession menu :)
[17:02] <sipior> saurabh_: easier ways to do that, i think. are both machines running linux?
[17:02] <saurabh_> no one has windows xp
[17:02] <saurabh_> and mine ubuntu 8.10
[17:03] <Photoguy> Ubuntu is stopping at the login screen, it show's the background, and the "wait" cursor, but it just sits there doing nothing, I need help!
[17:03] <s0ullight> !fingerprint
[17:03] <sipior> saurabh_: okay. and you want to create a permanent solution? or just move a few files on occasion?
[17:03] <Slart> Photoguy: has it ever worked? can you press ctrl+alt+f1 to get a terminal?
[17:03] <Jack_Sparrow> Photoguy Is this a regular install or wubi or vm such  thing...
[17:03] <Photoguy> wubiu
[17:03] <Photoguy> *wubi
[17:04] <saurabh_> permanent solution
[17:04] <Photoguy> It's been working fine
[17:04] <usr13> Raphi974: Yes, and I told it to use KDM
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> Photoguy Sorry, cant help you
[17:04] <saurabh_> !
[17:04] <usr13> Raphi974: BUt it didn't work
[17:04] <Slart> Photoguy: oh.. wubi.. I have no idea then
[17:04] <Raphi974> usr13, to use KDE Session
[17:04] <usr13> Raphi974: so....???
[17:04] <Raphi974> usr13, not KDM
[17:04] <Photoguy> Slart: what should I type into the terminal?
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !wuubi > Photoguy
[17:04] <sipior> saurabh_: in that case, you'll want to set up samba on your linux box. have a look here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpSamba
[17:04] <Jack_Sparrow> !wubi > Photoguy
[17:04] <adam__> note to self: using ls -R from / is a bad idea
[17:05] <Photoguy> I know ubottu :P
[17:05] <hospodg> Jack_Sparrow, what are you accusing me of
[17:05] <Raphi974> usr13, Type your username, then Enter, then click on Sessions and choose KDE4 (or KDE) then click OK, then type your password and Enter
[17:05] <adam__> actually, it's still going, is there a kill command for the shell?
[17:05] <Slart> Photoguy: tail /var/log/syslog will give you the last 10 lines of the system log.. tail /var/log/kern.log will do the same for the kernel log
[17:05] <Jack_Sparrow> !ot > hospodg
[17:05] <saurabh_> \it will kind of u if u tell me how to configure ftp to login through root user
[17:05] <usr13> Raphi974: It just comes up gnome
[17:05] <sipior> adam__: ctrl-c
[17:05] <Photoguy> Ok
[17:05] <Raphi974> usr13, It will ask you if you want to make this change permanently
[17:05] <shawnmstout> ok im kinda stuck here i got some spyware on my ubuntu box and i know how to remove with windows but i have no clue on how to remove for ubuntu, is there a hijackthis or malwarebytes anti-malware similiar program for ubuntu?
[17:05] <adam__> gracias sip
[17:05] <Raphi974> usr13, choose : Make default session
[17:05] <Slart> shawnmstout: you've got spyware on your ubuntu box? interesting.. what kind of spyware?
[17:06] <usr13> Raphi974: KDM does not seem to come up, just GDM
[17:06] <Raphi974> usr13, it have to work too
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnmstout What makes you  think yyou have spyware on your ubu box
[17:06] <Slart> shawnmstout: there's always rkhunter
[17:06] <usr13> Or at lest, it looks like GDM
[17:06] <shawnmstout> it is a internet hijacker every morning it goes to fling.com
[17:06] <pregier> Anybody know whether there are any known stability problems with firefox/flash/pulse common to both 8.04 and 8.10?
[17:06] <Raphi974> usr13, no real difference between these 2. It work the same way
[17:06] <Slart> shawnmstout: sounds like a firefox plugin or something
[17:06] <shawnmstout> i know right , shocked me
[17:06] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnmstout so something got into firefox right
[17:07] <shawnmstout> i agree first place i checked was addons and plugins for firefox
[17:07] <bhuvi> while installing ubuntu i gave /dev/media6 instead of /media/sda6 and after installing all the drives content except system volume information is gone y does this happan??can anyone help
[17:07] <Slart> shawnmstout: I doubt you've found some linux spyware
[17:07] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnmstout save a copy of your bookmarks and we can purge ff and get you back up
[17:07] <ph8> hi all - i've got a remote video stream from a linksys wireless webcam - accessible at: http://192.168.1.104/img/mjpeg.cgi (from my pc obviously) - is there any program anyone knows of that could take regular snapshots from this stream?
[17:07] <Raphi974> bhuvi, check fstab and change the device
[17:07] <Slart> bhuvi: I think you'll have to reinstall
[17:07] <shawnmstout> ok sounds good
[17:08] <shawnmstout> never thought about reinstalling firefox
[17:08] <Slart> bhuvi: I have no idea what happens if you try to install /dev/media6.. I'm suprised it even continued
[17:08] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnmstout reinstall wont fix it
[17:08] <shawnmstout> will do that now
[17:08] <swtaarrs> can anyone recommend an mpeg2 editor that works well with very large ( > 30gb) files?
[17:08] <shawnmstout> oh ok
[17:08] <usr13> Raphi974: Raphi974 My question is, where / how to edit the configuration file that tells xorg to load KDE instead of Gnome. Because I get no option for KDE at this point.  SO something has gone wrong.  If there is a GUI way to solve this, I'll be glad to try it. But...
[17:08] <shawnmstout> jack can u explain what i need to do?
[17:09] <Slart> shawnmstout: check the plugins list in firefox.. see if there is anything suspicious there
[17:09] <Jack_Sparrow> YOu need to manually remove it.. and Iam looking for my notes on what all had to be removed
[17:09] <Raphi974> usr13, You want your session to be KDE by default ?
[17:09] <jackmayol> how can I know which is the case? "Is /home a seperate filesystem (mount point) or a part of the root filesystem (/)?"
[17:09] <saurabh_> can anyone tell me how to login through root user in ftp
[17:09] <jackmayol> I didnt do the install myself so I dont know
[17:09] <usr13> Raphi974: Yes
[17:09] <Raphi974> usr13, Do you use KDM or GDM ?
[17:10] <shawnmstout> backed up
[17:10] <usr13> Raphi974: Well, up to this point, I've used GDM, but have installe KDM
[17:10] <shawnmstout> slart i did
[17:10] <Slart> saurabh_: ftp server on ubuntu?
[17:10] <sipior> jackmayol: "df" will show them as separate filesystems if that is indeed the case.
[17:10] <Krstnsn> theres something seriously wrong with my install of ubuntu or something... firefox is running my cpu big time... and its idle. with one tab open onto a page with only words.
[17:10] <saurabh_> ya
[17:10] <saurabh_> on ubuntu
[17:10] <shawnmstout> wierd thing is its like on a cron job or something
[17:10] <shawnmstout> only 1 time a day and its before we wake up
[17:10] <saurabh_> ubuntu 8.10
[17:11] <Skeptiker> If update-grub says "Found kernel: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic" does it mean that the kernel 2.6.27-11-generic is installed on my computer?
[17:11] <Slart> saurabh_: I wouldn't do that.. set it up properly instead
[17:11] <shawnmstout> so every morning its tits and ass staring at my fience
[17:11] <ajhdajdh> heh
[17:11] <Raphi974> usr13, Well, you can use one or the other... it's basically the same. Except if you want to remove EVERYTHING about Gnome
[17:11] <saurabh_> please be more clear
[17:11] <saurabh_> i didnt get u
[17:11] <Slart> shawnmstout: hmm.. fling.com you said.. interesting.. ;)
[17:11] <shawnmstout> yes
[17:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker YEs, what are you trying to fix?
[17:11] <Slart> shawnmstout: I would just save the bookmarks and reinstall firefox completely
[17:12] <Slart> shawnmstout: "sudo apt-get purge firefox" will clear everything out.. save the stuff you want before you run that
[17:12] <Raphi974> usr13, When you log-in, before pressing Enter after your password, you will have to press F10, the Session menu will appear
[17:12] <shawnmstout> 1 sec guys, phone
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart I had one where that would not work, but it is the first thing to try anyhow
[17:12] <Raphi974> usr13, You choose KDE, then click OK, then press Enter
[17:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart I had to go in and kill .mozilla if I remember correctly
[17:12] <Raphi974> usr13, GDM or KDM will ask you if you want to make that change permanent, click : Make default session
[17:13] <Raphi974> usr13, or something like that
[17:13] <Slart> Jack_Sparrow: I wonder if it some kind of scripted/java/flash thing.. never seen anything target linux before so I'm guessing it's using something portable
[17:13] <jackmayol> sipior /dev/sda5              9614116   3133748   5991996  35% /home
[17:13] <jackmayol> ?
[17:13] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart YEs, it is a problem within FF
[17:13] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, I have just upgraded my system to Ubuntu 8.10. However, every time I boot my computer I end up with ubuntu 8.10 but with the kernel "2.6.24-19-generic". When booting the computer, Grub never allows me to boot into the new kernel which is what I would like to do. How do I fix this?
[17:13] <Raphi974> usr13, then you will be logged in... in a KDE Session
[17:13] <sipior> jackmayol: right, so that line shows a separate /home partition.
[17:13] <jackmayol> oki
[17:13] <jackmayol> thx :)
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker LEts look at  your grub menu.lst one sec
[17:14] <ndf> hey
[17:14] <bhuvi> ﻿i reinstalled ubuntu with correct mount point but is there any way i could get my contents in the partition back??
[17:14] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[17:14] <usr13> Raphi974: I followed instructions at: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-KDE-4-1-On-Ubuntu-8-04-91034.shtmlhttp://news.softpedia.com/news/How-To-Install-KDE-4-1-On-Ubuntu-8-04-91034.shtml
[17:14] <usr13> But I only get gnome sessions, no KDE.
[17:15] <sipior> bhuvi: if it's been overwritten by the installer, i doubt it.
[17:15] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.com/f16cb1cc2
[17:15] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker you can shift ctrl-v to paste that command into a term
[17:15] <shawnmstout> ok sorry guys im back
[17:16] <Raphi974> usr13, so you're under Ubuntu 8.04 ?
[17:16] <Azazel-AZ> I have installed KDE in ubuntu.  it was like apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:16] <bhuvi> but the file system seems to be intact
[17:16] <shawnmstout> let me scroll up and read what u wrote
[17:16] <sipior> bhuvi: what did you do to it, exactly?
[17:16] <ndf> anyone know of any dvd ripping software?
[17:16] <sipior> bhuvi: you may just try mounting it normally. perhaps all is well.
[17:16] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker Ubuntu 8.04.1, kernel 2.6.24-19-generic            is the newest kernel in that list
[17:17] <shawnmstout> ok hey thanks alot guys ill run the purge now
[17:17] <miha> ndf http://www.exit1.org/dvdrip/
[17:17] <Raphi974> ndf, http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?id=281232
[17:17] <shawnmstout> i was definitely suprised though getting spyware and cant find the plugin either
[17:17] <shawnmstout> what if its some type of cron job running?
[17:17] <shawnmstout> cause it only happens at a certain time?
[17:17] <shawnmstout> is there a way to check this?
[17:17] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, yes. But shouldn't it have upgraded it to the newer "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic" kernel automatically?
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker Ubuntu lsb_release -a next
[17:18] <steven_> 233
[17:18] <Wolv3> how can i install amarok codecs?
[17:18] <Azazel-AZ> Skeptiker:  Got a question, I need to pin my kernel so update manager and apt-get/aptitude both see the pin
[17:18] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker that menu list shows you still on the earlier version.  How did you upgrade
[17:19] <bhuvi> now i reinstalled ubuntu with correct mount point but how the contents can be brought back
[17:19] <Jack_Sparrow> bhuvi They can not if you fromatted the partition and wrote over them
[17:19] <Azazel-AZ> Skeptiker: 1) Did he reboot?  2) did grub get updated?
[17:19] <bhuvi> i didnt format it
[17:19] <Slart> sorry.. had a short network outage...
[17:20] <nkei0> Anyone here want to help me get my display to work again?  I upgraded to the new ati radeon driver and accidentally restarted without configuring the device.  I can't X to start due to no screens detected.  I can however boot the livecd and that's how I'm on here.
[17:20] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, http://pastebin.com/m7e12a7ed I upgraded it via Synaptics
[17:20] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker Ubuntu lsb_release -a next           jst to verify what release you are currently on and tell us how you  tried to upgrade your release
[17:20] <sipior> bhuvi: what was the filesystem on the other partition? you can just try mounting it with "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt/disk", with the appropriate substitutions for your system.
[17:20] <bhuvi> it was ntfs
[17:20] <sipior> bhuvi: for example, "ext3 instead of ntfs", change the mount point and device, etc...
[17:21] <Azazel-AZ> nkeiO:  you can boot live CD, and mount HD on mnt and copy /etc/x11/xorg.conf to hard disk, reboot then configure your driver
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker so lsb  shows it right
[17:21] <Skeptiker> Azazel-AZ, yes, my computer did reboot correctly. I do not know if grup got updated (however, I've tried running update-grup a few times)
[17:21] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker uname -r
[17:21] <Azazel-AZ> did you check menu.lst?
[17:21] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: OKay, how do I mount HD on mnt?
[17:21] <SxNDave> Does anyone know of a package that I could use to create dynamically linked help files. like .chm's or .hlp'?. The save format is not a concern since its for personal use, saving study notes etc..
[17:21] <tyler_d> trying to find package msgmerge binary -- not finding it anywhere?
[17:21] <Azazel-AZ> ok, try this
[17:22] <Azazel-AZ> mkdir /mnt/harddisk
[17:22] <Holmen> How do I start svnserve ...as user "svn"?
[17:22] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, uname -r: 2.6.24-19-generic
[17:22] <sipior> bhuvi: do you know the disk and partition number?
[17:22] <bhuvi> sda6
[17:22] <tyler_d> Holmen: su - svn && ./svnserve
[17:22] <tyler_d> Holmen: assuming your in the correct dir
[17:22] <Skeptiker> Azazel-AZ, the new kernel is not in menu.lst: http://pastebin.com/f16cb1cc2
[17:22] <Azazel-AZ> mount -t auto /dev/sdX /mnt/harddisk where x is your linux partition
[17:22] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker HAve you done all of your updates since the iniitial upgrade
[17:22] <sipior> bhuvi: so it will be something like "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda6 /mnt/"
[17:22] <Photoguy> slart, there didn't seem to be any errors after running the tail  /log and kernel/log , what should I do now, I really need to log in :P
[17:23] <Azazel-AZ> ok, add it, run grub, reboot.  make sure you also change the default boot # to the new kernel
[17:23] <woernsn> hey there
[17:23] <Slart> Photoguy: I have no idea.. wubi isn't my thing.. sorry
[17:23] <sipior> bhuvi: if all is well, your files should be in /mnt
[17:23] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: How do I tell which partition is my linux one?
[17:23] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, I have no upgrades to do (according to the upgrade manager)
[17:23] <Jack_Sparrow> Azazel-AZ that assumes the kernel is actually in his system
[17:24] <Photoguy> Slart  Well, it's just the same as any other installation, just doesn't have it's own partition.
[17:24] <Azazel-AZ> sudo fdisk /dev/sda then type p to print partitions
[17:24] <dogmeat> if you Ctrl-Backspace, does every windowed pid get killed?
[17:24] <Jack_Sparrow> Photoguy and that is precisely why I wont use trust nor recommend using it
[17:24] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, well, what I said is not completely true. If I allow intrepid-proposed I suddenly get a lot of updates available. Should I do that?
[17:24] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: It's showing that I have two, how can I tell which one is the correct one?
[17:25] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker not proposed
[17:25] <Slart> Photoguy: sorry.. I wouldn't know what to do if a full install did that either
[17:25] <Azazel-AZ> is one a swap?
[17:25] <n0greenfx> hi i need some help with my smb shares..i have a external hhd hooked to my laptop and i went to sharing options and checked each check box..when im on my ps3 via ubuntu it tells me i am unable to mount the shared drive????
[17:25] <Photoguy> Slart, ok, I see.
[17:25] <bhuvi> i was able to mount it but the problem is i lost my important files in the partition and i want it back
[17:25] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: Well I have two linux, two linux/swap, and one extended
[17:25] <Azazel-AZ> ok, try this instead.  got a usb stick drive?
[17:25] <Photoguy> Does anybody else have any idea what to do when it hangs up on the login screen?
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker We can try to add it manually to your menu.lst
[17:26] <Azazel-AZ> Photoguy:  Reboot, Intrepid is annoying the hell out of me with that
[17:26] <nkei0> Photoguy: You should try booting with acpi=off
[17:26] <vtec> anyone from brazil?
[17:26] <Photoguy> nkei0:  how?
[17:26] <Azazel-AZ> hold pwr button for 10 seconds
[17:26] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker which kernel ? 7 and 9 ?  generic
[17:27] <Photoguy> Azazel-AZ: I did, several times.
[17:27] <bastones> Hi. I wanted to change screen resolution in Ubuntu and I mistakenly pressed 'Off' and after I clicked Apply the screen went blank ... so I tried rebooting computer and after I login it goes black again...is there any solution to this please
[17:27] <Azazel-AZ> unplug and remove battery if applicable
[17:27] <nkei0> Photoguy: When the boot menu comes up press "e" then go down to the kernel and press "e", then add "acpi=off" at the end of the long line where it has quiet and splash at
[17:27] <Photoguy> bastones, try booting in recovery mode.
[17:27] <ociosoFedorro> que onda lokos
[17:27] <Photoguy> nkei0: i'll try that
[17:27] <ociosoFedorro> wat's up locos
[17:28] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic" Is the one I want.
[17:29] <woody86> Can anyone help me out, I get this error when I try to run Update Manager: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[17:29] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: Okay, I've just tried that mount -t auto /dev/sdX /mnt/harddisk to the first linux partition (plus it had a * next to it)  Anyways, what was I supposed to do from there?
[17:29] <Al1_> Hi, I have a wine related issue, and i understand this is Ubuntu but i tried the #winehq server and they were unable to help me. Im using Ubuntu Hardy and i am having an issue with ALSA when i open up winecfg their is only the OSS driver listed under list of audio drivers whereas normally there should be an ALSA driver, im using pulseaudio and an intel HDA card
[17:30] <Azazel-AZ> type ls /mnt/harddisk and see if you /etc?
[17:30] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, Will this work: http://pastebin.com/m686ff18 ?I am not sure about the arguments after "root="
[17:31] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: lost+found came up
[17:31] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker http://pastebin.com/d7c58d8d2
[17:31] <Azazel-AZ> ok, try the other linxu one. first umount /mnt/harddisk and mount the other and try that onme
[17:31] <Azazel-AZ> one
[17:31] <bastones> Photoguy I tried booting into safe mode but still went black
[17:32] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, Might I ask why you entered .27-7 and not .27-11?
[17:32] <Photoguy> bastones, try asking someone how to reset or something maybe.
[17:32] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: I tried unmount /mnt/harddisk and it said command not found
[17:32] <Azazel-AZ> umount sorry
[17:33] <Azazel-AZ> its short for umount lmao
[17:33] <troythetechguy> I want to set up a mail server.  I remember hearing about different types: like postfix, sendmail.  What should I use?
[17:33] <Photoguy> bastones, sorry, I'm kind of new also :)
[17:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker -7 is the original   that came on ibex.. I added -9 to this one..  http://pastebin.com/d1d2d02ae
[17:34] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: Okay, I unmounted, and mounted to the other sda.  I then did the ls thingie and the home directory came up with /usr, /etc, /boot and all that
[17:35] <Charles> Does anyone know of a good gdm editor
[17:35] <Azazel-AZ> kewl.  sudo cp /mnt/harddisk/etc/x11/xorg.conf /mnt/harddisk/etc/x11/xorg.backup
[17:35] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker -11 http://pastebin.com/d633c77af
[17:35] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, thank you. I'll try them and see if any of them works
[17:35] <ghostlines> does anyone else's evolution suddenly start after suspend?
[17:36] <Fantec> hello
[17:36] <Azazel-AZ> then. sudo cp /etc/x11/xorg.conf /mnt/harddisk/mnt/x11/xorg.conf
[17:36] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker YOu ahve a lot going n in there with frebsd and that netbooin thing
[17:36] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: I copied what you said and pasted it in and it said that it cannot stat because the file or directory doesn't exist
[17:36] <Azazel-AZ> try this
[17:36] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, btw. Can I safely remove old ones? My list is getting quite big (excluding the ones you just added)
[17:36] <Azazel-AZ> cd /mnt/harddisk/etc/x11
[17:37] <ghostlines> should be X11
[17:37] <calix> huhu =)
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker Always save yourself a known stable one to go back to
[17:37] <ghostlines> in capitals
[17:37] <Azazel-AZ> thanks
[17:37] <ghostlines> cool
[17:37] <Fantec> I have a problem on ubuntu display (mostly firefox) : somes characters are unreadable but I still can copy/paste and I will get the right string
[17:37] <Photoguy> nkei0: I tried acpi=off, but no success, still stuck at login window
[17:37] <Azazel-AZ> try it again like ghostlines said
[17:37] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: Yeah ghost was right
[17:37] <Azazel-AZ> ok, now sudo reboot
[17:37] <Jack_Sparrow> X!!    looks right to me.. all caps
[17:37] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, thanks. The netbooting isn't displayed by Grub so I have no idea what it does
[17:38] <Azazel-AZ> and remove cd when prompted
[17:38] <Charles> Does anyone know of a good gdm editor
[17:38] <nkei0> Photoguy: okay, try it again with "acpi=off", "noapic", and "nolapic"
[17:38] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker good luck those options should let you get back in even if they dont fix the prob
[17:38] <Photoguy> nkei0: all three at once?
[17:39] <nkei0> Photoguy: Yeah, that's what I had to do when I first installed it on my Acer Aspire laptop.  I've since gotten it down to where I am only using "acpi=off"
[17:39] <nkei0> brb, rebooting
[17:39] <Photoguy> ok
[17:41] <Charles> Ok then, I reloaded my computer because my wireless wasn't working anymore on this one only, (works on other computers with 8.10) but it still won't work, can anyone help me
[17:41] <woernsn> hey there.. can anybody help me with my grub-problem..?
[17:42] <SexyBoBo1> in ssh how do you change to a directory with a ! in the name
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn What is your grub problem
[17:42] <woernsn> i can
[17:42] <woernsn> i can't boot ubuntu anymore..
[17:42] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Keep questions all on one line so I can read more easilly
[17:42] <woernsn> okay sorry
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Did you just reinstall windows
[17:43] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Are you running livecd on the problem system now
[17:43] <woernsn> no.. nothing like that.. yesterday everything was fine. And when i started my computer today, it didn't want to..
[17:43] <woernsn> no.. i'm running windows
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Is this a real install or was it a wubi install from inside windows
[17:44] <woernsn> nono.. a real install
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Are you running livecd on the problem system now
[17:44] <woernsn> no.. windows xp on the problem system
[17:44] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn You will need a livecd in order to fix this
[17:44] <SexyBoBo1> Can some one please help me with an ssh problem?
[17:45] <dr_Willis> SexyBoBo1,  its best to just ask the problem in clear concise terms..
[17:45] <shawnmstout> ok its not purging for some reason
[17:45] <SexyBoBo1> in ssh how do you change to a directory with a ! in the name
[17:45] <woernsn> oke.. but shouldn't i tell you first, what the problem is? i think it might be easier to fix it
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnmstout Tried to tell you
[17:45] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Sure.. all on one line
[17:46] <shawnmstout> i used sudo apt-get purge firefox
[17:46] <dr_Willis> SexyBoBo1,  in a 'shell' like 'bash' you normally can use escape codes.. or 'qotes' ( " or ' ) to go around special names
[17:46] <Azazel-AZ> SexyBoBo got just 5-10 mintues shoot
[17:46] <woody86> Can anyone help me out, I get this error when I try to run Update Manager: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60D11217247D1CFF
[17:46] <shawnmstout> and sudo apt-get purge firefox-3.0
[17:46] <dr_Willis> SexyBoBo1,  cd '!fancyplace'
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnmstout You will need to gksudo nautilus and delete the .mozilla folser in your home and try again
[17:46] <shawnmstout> ok
[17:46] <shawnmstout> thanks
[17:46] <shawnmstout> i didnt read that part
[17:46] <Jack_Sparrow> shawnmstout I never got to that part before you left
[17:47] <Photoguy> nkei0: I tried that..
[17:47] <edgy> Hi, I added this using visudo "hardy ALL=NOPASSWD:     /bin/ls" but it's not working!
[17:47] <detrate> can anyone tell me a way to grep a text file but also say 2 lines before and after what I'm looking for?
[17:47] <shawnmstout> oh i came back afterwards must of missed u
[17:47] <grumpy> When you make an USB thumb drive with ubuntu 8.10 is it suppose to ask for your language each time you boot?
[17:47] <Photoguy> nkei0: Does it make any diffrence that I just changed the login screen theme?
[17:47] <Jack_Sparrow> detrate yes that is easy
[17:47] <woernsn> so.. yesterday everything went right but when i started my system today again it says in grub "Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic" instead of "Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic". And when my computer tries to boot it it just says "Error 11: Unrecognized device string. Press any key to continue..."
[17:48] <Azazel-AZ> nkei0: hasn't logged back in yet I think
[17:48] <Jack_Sparrow> detrate Is it possible to grep for some string and output also couple of lines before and after found line? "grep -C 2 <string>" also outputs 2 lines before and after the line where the string is found -A is for lines After, -B is for lines Before.. C = both
[17:48] <detrate> :) awesome!
[17:48] <detrate> thanks very much
[17:49] <Azazel-AZ> jack Sparrow, try awk
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[17:49] <Bodom> wtf?
[17:49] <phantomcircuit> there would appear to be a memory leak in evolution
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Azazel-AZ Yes awk will work too
[17:49] <Jack_Sparrow> Bodom Lose the colorful comments thanks
[17:49] <woernsn> Jack_Sparrow yesterday everything went right but when i started my system today again it says in grub "Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic" instead of "Ubuntu 8.10, kernel 2.6.27-11-generic". And when my computer tries to boot it it just says "Error 11: Unrecognized device string. Press any key to continue..."
[17:50] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Looks like you tried to insall another nix.. still cant be fixed without a livecd
[17:50] <adam__> In the bash shell, 'ls -l' is showing two owner names instead of one, why does it list two?
[17:51] <adam__> i.e 'root root'
[17:51] <woernsn> Jack_Sparrow i just wanted you to know ;) i will be back in few minutes with a livecd
[17:51] <NicDumZ> hey guys
[17:51] <Bodom> hi
[17:52] <Slart> adam__: one is the user, the other is the group
[17:53] <shawnmstout> what directory is firefox usually installed in?
[17:53] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: frown, it didn't give me any errors about screens, just about how it couldn't connect to X server this time :(
[17:53] <NicDumZ> I'm trying to troubleshoot a web display error, on a specific page, with intrepid + firefox ; can someone with this config, willing to help, pm me ?
[17:53] <Slart> shawnmstout: the binaries? or the settings?
[17:53] <adam__> slart: what is the 'group', is that like a folder of users that I can set global permissions for, instead of a base by base case?
[17:53] <shawnmstout> i want to completely remove it
[17:53] <shawnmstout> so i guess both
[17:53] <adam__> er, case by case basis
[17:53] <NicDumZ> (from what I can tell; I do reproduce it here; but can't on other OS/browsers)
[17:53] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  if you used the package manager to install.. use it to remove.
[17:53] <shawnmstout> i tried that
[17:53] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  why do you want to remove firefox anyway? whats the ACTUAL problem?
[17:53] <shawnmstout> and it didnt remove bookmarks ect....
[17:54] <shawnmstout> spyware
[17:54] <shawnmstout> and yes i looked for plugins
[17:54] <shawnmstout> none there
[17:54] <slb_> hi all
[17:54] <nkei0> hi
[17:54] <slb_> anyone using intrepid?
[17:54] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  and its not going to remove the  bookmarks and stuff.. removing the SYSTEM firefox will NOT NOT NOT touch the users settings
[17:54] <nkei0> yes
[17:54] <Slart> adam__: in linux there are users and groups.. all files are owned by a group and a user..a user can belong to many groups.. so there are groups for users that can print stuff, users that can use the soundcard, users allowed to use mail etc etc etc
[17:54] <grumpy> When you make an USB thumb drive with ubuntu 8.10 is it suppose to ask for your language each time you boot?
[17:54] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  to remove the USERS settings  remove them from the .firefox or .mozilla directory
[17:55] <slb_> nkei0, did you have problems with font rendering?
[17:55] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  no need to remove firefox from the system for that.
[17:55] <shawnmstout> ok where do i find that at dr?
[17:55] <Slart> shawnmstout: .firefox or .mozilla in your home folder are the usualy settings folders
[17:55] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  in the users home directory - every users stuff is there.. Linux keep things 'seperated' unlike windows. :)
[17:55] <adam__> Slart: I see, that makes sense. Thanks, I'll see if I can find more information via the web
[17:55] <nkei0> slb_: I haven't, no.  But i've seen posts about how it can have problems with windows fonts.
[17:55] <shawnmstout> templates then?
[17:55]  * dr_Willis notes this is a common 'Windows Thinking about a problem' Vs' Linux way'
[17:55] <dr_Willis> :)
[17:55] <Slart> shawnmstout: there might be other stuff in mozilla too.. don't just delete it.. I think thunderbird stores mail there
[17:55] <Azazel-AZ> I have to get going, I have an idea on how to fix this, but won't be back on until 3pm MST if you can wait.  if not I apologize, but I got class.  Quick overview of my tough, boot live eval cd.  ldmod | grep -I video mind the module being used. write it down.  reboot system and log into tty1 console and do the same.  type modprobe -r video_module_name and modprobe the_one_from_the_live_eval_cd
[17:56] <Azazel-AZ> lsmod not ldmod sorry
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> Slart I do believe those are the ones I had to delete manually in order to get a clean firefox
[17:56] <shawnmstout> no mail going on system
[17:56] <edgy> dr_Willis: can  you help me on my issue?
[17:56] <vigo> What is the command for like a dir in Linux?
[17:56] <Photoguy> nkei0: No luck with those:   Note: I did just change the login screen theme, so maybe that's the issue, any ideas for getting past the login screen?
[17:56] <NicDumZ> viezerd, : ls
[17:56] <slb_> nkei0, i'm talking about all the fonts everywhere looking crappy, and no amount of smoothing, anti-aliasing, ... fixes it
[17:56] <NicDumZ> vigo: ls
[17:56] <Jack_Sparrow> vigo ls
[17:56] <vigo> Thank you
[17:56] <bastones> Is there any way of changing screen resolution in terminal as I accidentally changed resolution to Off and whenever I login it goes black ...
[17:56] <NicDumZ> (sorry viezerd)
[17:56] <Slart> shawnmstout: why not rename them..  .mozilla to .mozilla-old and .firefox to .firefox-old
[17:56] <viezerd> ;p
[17:56] <viezerd> np
[17:57] <Mud|afk> vigo : ls -l
[17:57] <shawnmstout> sure but i need to find them first
[17:57] <slb_> nkei0, i tried intrepid and abandoned it for hardy because of it
[17:57] <Jack_Sparrow> bastones login in recovery mode and try to change it back
[17:57] <nkei0> Photoguy: You can go to recovery mode and login to root on the command line and undo it
[17:57] <edgy> dr_Willis:  I added this using visudo "hardy ALL=NOPASSWD:     /bin/ls" but it's not working!
[17:57] <shawnmstout> i looked int he home directory
[17:57] <shawnmstout> its not there
[17:57] <bastones> Jack I tried going in recovery mode it wont work ...
[17:57] <bastones> goes black again
[17:57] <nkei0> slb_: What kind of video card are you using?
[17:57] <Azazel-AZ> ok nkei0: got to go.  try that, will check back in 4 hrs at 3 mst provided irc is open at university firewall
[17:57] <woernsn> Jack_Sparrow: so i'm back again
[17:57] <Photoguy> nkei0:  any kind of guide availble?
[17:57] <slb_> nkei0, integrated
[17:57] <nkei0> Azazel-AZ: Thanks, man i appreciate it.
[17:57] <Slart> shawnmstout: folders starting with a dot are usually hidden i linux
[17:58] <mbr> hello
[17:58] <Slart> shawnmstout: ctrl+h to see them in nautilus
[17:58] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn Livecd and you can open a terminal
[17:58] <dr_Willis> edgy,  i would read up on sudo and examples.. and be VREY VERY VERY carefull with that stuff..
[17:58] <Azazel-AZ> nkei0: once you get the default working you can go after the vendros driver
[17:58] <NicDumZ> shawnmstout, how did you look if I may ask ? ls -la ? you need "a" to show folders starting by dots
[17:58] <Azazel-AZ> later
[17:58] <woernsn> Jack_Sparrow: yes
[17:58] <nkei0> Photoguy: I've never dealt with that and i'm pretty new, but the forums would be a good place to start
[17:58] <shawnmstout> im using gksudo nautilus per jacks recommendation
[17:58] <edgy> vigo: dir itself works
[17:58] <vigo> Neato
[17:58] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn ONe sec, I have a long command for you to paste
[17:58] <dr_Willis> edgy,  ive disabled the pasword befor.. but alway have to look up the proper way to do it in the sudo and sudoers man pages
[17:58] <Slart> shawnmstout: try ctrl+h
[17:58] <shawnmstout> ok
[17:58] <mbr> Ive got a question: how can I mount a Big-Endian UDF filesystem on an Intel (little-endian) Linux system?
[17:58] <woernsn> Jack_Sparrow: oke.. i'll be patient ;)
[17:58] <slb_> nkei0, Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[17:59] <the6step> is there gvim in ubuntu?
[17:59] <shawnmstout> there we go
[17:59] <the6step> I'm kind of new at this, how do I get gvim in ubuntu?
[17:59] <Slart> the6step: afaik, yes
[17:59] <dr_Willis> !info gvim
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && cp /etc/fstab ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo fdisk -l >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && sudo blkid >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && lsb_release -a >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /boot/grub/menu.lst >> ~/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt && cat /home/$USER/Desktop/Partition_Layout.txt | pastebinit  (Provide Pastebin link in channel)
[17:59] <moljac024> hey guys I need help
[17:59] <dr_Willis> !info vim
[17:59] <edgy> dr_Willis: there is already an example on the file and I just uncomment and used that. I don't care about security now I just want to understand it
[17:59] <NicDumZ> yes the6step just install it
[17:59] <nkei0> slb_: google fglrx, I've seen that can fix quite a few things with integrated cards
[17:59] <MrElendig> the6step: there is if you install it
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> moljac024 Just ask
[17:59] <Photoguy> nkei0:  that's the problem, I've been searching. :P
[17:59] <moljac024> does anyone have any idea why network manager wouldn't be able to handle wireless ?
[17:59] <the6step> NicDumZ: I tried sudo aptitude install gvim
[17:59] <ahmed> Hi there!
[17:59] <moljac024> it doesn't pick up any signals
[17:59] <dr_Willis> edgy,  i dont know it by heart well enough to say.  just be carefull Heh
[17:59] <shawnmstout> still no firefox directory though, im in root btw
[17:59] <MrElendig> moljac024: yes, it sucks, specially 0.6
[17:59] <Jack_Sparrow> moljac024 Is it an openor encrypted system
[17:59] <the6step> MrElendig: I don't know what command to use to install it
[17:59] <moljac024> ifconfig shows wlan0 present
[17:59] <MrElendig> the6step: man apt-get
[17:59] <edgy> dr_Willis: thanks ;)
[18:00] <nkei0> Photoguy: Sorry, I haven't messed with it really.  I've only been using linux for about 3 months and it's been generally problem free
[18:00] <woernsn> Jack_Sparrow: No LSB modules are available.
[18:00] <woernsn> cat: /boot/grub/menu.lst: No such file or directory
[18:00] <Slart> shawnmstout: there's no reason to run nautilus as root if you just want to do stuff in your home folder
[18:00] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  ' ls -a  ' and look and the .settings stuff in the ROOT users home will not be affecting the users
[18:00] <slb_> moljac024, use iwconfig
[18:00] <moljac024> MrElendig: what are you doing in here dude ? :D
[18:00] <grumpy> When you make an USB thumb drive with ubuntu 8.10 is it suppose to ask for your language each time you boot?
[18:00] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  learn to use the shell.. its our friend.
[18:00] <MrElendig> moljac024: what are you doing in here dude?
[18:00] <Photoguy> nkei0: thanks for your help.
[18:00] <moljac024> slb_: this isn't my computer
[18:00] <nkei0> grumpy: It shouldn't unless it's trying to install every time?
[18:00] <Slart> shawnmstout: and you want to look in /home/shawnmstout/ or whatever your login name is
[18:00] <shawnmstout> no .settings folder
[18:00] <moljac024> the owner isn't very tech savy
[18:00] <shawnmstout> in the root
[18:00] <edgy> grumpy: it's like a live cd so yes it would
[18:00] <moljac024> and he needs it to access hot spots
[18:00] <MrElendig> moljac024: you should be installing arch on the box asap
[18:00] <shawnmstout> .config but only 1 file there
[18:01] <NicDumZ> the6step, if you do "sudo apt-get install gvim", it'll tell you the name of the package is vim-gnome if you use gnome
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> woernsn YOu need to run those commands against the hard drive not from the live part of the session.. I am also running out of time
[18:01] <moljac024> MrElendig: not my box :D
[18:01] <grumpy> edgy, any way i can make the usb drive like a regular hard disk?
[18:01] <moljac024> I'm just supposed to fix it
[18:01] <nkei0> later guys
[18:01] <slb_> moljac024, what version of ubuntu is he using?
[18:01] <edgy> grumpy: you can make a persistent install on the usb just like you install to a hard drive
[18:01] <Jack_Sparrow> moljac024 the fix might mean buying a fully supported card
[18:01] <moljac024> it's 8.04
[18:01] <grumpy> edgy, oh, ok, nothing special to it, just do it in the same way as I would a hard disk?
[18:01] <moljac024> I believe everything worked ok when I installed it
[18:01] <edgy> grumpy: I haven't tried it before but it should work normally
[18:01] <vigo> I upgraded to interpid and now the other disks cannot be accessed, or mounted, is there a better thingy than Wine that works for this so that I can move certain files that I wish to keep before the full Linux install?
[18:01] <shawnmstout> dr willis care if i msg u?
[18:01] <miha> offtopic: i finally learned who aXXo is:)
[18:02] <Photoguy> Does anybody know how (or know of a forum thread) about how to bypass the graphical login screen? I must have installed a faulty theme :P
[18:02] <grumpy> edgy, i'll go try it right now
[18:02] <Jack_Sparrow> edgy persistent mode runs off livecd session but all changes are written to the usb
[18:02] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[18:02] <Photoguy> Yes, but what commanbds?
[18:02] <slb_> moljac024, nm-applet in roaming mode
[18:02] <woernsn> Jack_Sparrow: oke.. i'll try
[18:02] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  im baby sitting somay have to leave at any time.  ask the channel if ya got a specific question
[18:02] <grumpy> jack_sparrow, yet my persisten mode asks me for the language on reboot every time...
[18:02] <moljac024> slb_: that's the thing
[18:02] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, that should switch to console 1, then here you can log in in text mode, and remove the theme
[18:02] <shawnmstout> ok how do i delete the history out cause im not seeing a .settings in the root directory
[18:03] <moljac024> nm-applet doesn't seem to recogize the wireless card
[18:03] <Photoguy> But, does it go to the desktop and all that?
[18:03] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  that was a example      name     Firefx stuff is saved in -->   .mozilla/
[18:03] <slb_> moljac024, sure that the laptop has no on/off switch for the wifi radio
[18:03] <moljac024> also, I tried opening synaptic and it just doesn't start
[18:04] <moljac024> slb_: sure
[18:04] <Schizo_77127> jdfjdsfe
[18:04] <slb_> moljac024, try sudo aptitude
[18:04] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  and for example 'Wine' stuff is saved in --> .wine/
[18:04] <moljac024> can someone bork Ubuntu this much ?
[18:04] <uman> Hi everyone. I just got out of a huge problem yesterday, by reinstalling grub and being able to boot ubuntu 8.10 again. Unfortunately though, after being able to back into ubuntu and installing a new kernel Ive been having terrible problems. After a few minutes of logging in, i get abruptely logge out and have to log back in (so all my apps are closed). Then, after a few more minutes my computer freezes. The screen freezes completely, the clock stops running
[18:04] <uman> and i cant use the mouse or keyboard. Any idea what could be causing this and if I should downgrade my kernel and if so how? Thanks in advance, I hope i get help before my pc freeezes again.
[18:04] <moljac024> slb_: I tried the gnome menu entry
[18:04] <bastones> can someone please tell me how to change screen resolution in terminal as I cannot login it just goes black
[18:04] <moljac024> that should include gksudo
[18:04] <moljac024> right ?
[18:04] <moljac024> gksu
[18:04] <moljac024> whatever
[18:04] <FloodBot1> moljac024: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:04] <the6step> NicDumZ: Thanks
[18:04] <shawnmstout> ok but im not seeeing .mozilla .firefox or anything similar
[18:04] <PSPdemon> im having issues compiling cdirip 6.2
[18:04] <shawnmstout> how can i find out where its installed
[18:04] <slb_> moljac024, it should ask for password from menu
[18:04] <NicDumZ> the6step, welcome =)
[18:05] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  are you looking in the USERS home directory? or root's home ? /root  vs /home/username/
[18:05] <slb_> moljac024, hold on, there's another wireless/wired network manager that's good, can't recall, anyone else??
[18:05] <moljac024> slb_: it doesn't, I'm afraid of even begging to look a little deeper to find out what the heck is wrong with the system
[18:05] <rainmanp7> I have known people that could bork anything up ubuntu.conversations,living life,windows,dos,any distro you name it
[18:05] <shawnmstout> i have looked in both placed
[18:05] <shawnmstout> places*
[18:05] <moljac024> slb_: do you mean wicd ?
[18:05] <Templis_> HI! Just disabled and enabled wireless network (right mouse on tray), but it stopped to work!
[18:06] <rainmanp7> It's like those people the Bork running away from a monster in a horror movie
[18:06] <slb_> yes, tried it?
[18:06] <magnetik> Hi
[18:07] <vigo> I Thank you all kindly for the help and information.
[18:07] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  then i imagine you are either doing somthng basic wrong.. or its gone.   as a USER.. no need to be root at all   use the command   '    ls -al .mozilla   '
[18:07] <slb_> moljac024, yes, wicd
[18:07] <magnetik> I have a little problem on intrepid. I sometimes have a "GTK1 look" theme, instead of the normal "GTK2". I have an autoconnect
[18:07] <shawnmstout> ill try that
[18:07] <PSPdemon> http://rafb.net/p/yedZ2v61.html
[18:07] <PSPdemon> :S
[18:07] <slb_> anyone else think that evolution-exchange sucks
[18:08] <slb_> moljac024, what does iwconfig show?
[18:08] <dr_Willis> shawnmstout,  to move the directory -->    mv /home/USERNAME/.mozilla old.mozilla            WIth Your proper username of course
[18:08] <Photoguy> NicDumZ: how do I remove the theme via the console?
[18:08] <rainmanp7> I like the word "sucks" i think it's funny
[18:08] <moljac024> slb_: hold on
[18:08] <Templis_> HI! Just disabled and enabled wireless network (right mouse on tray), but it stopped to work! Can anyone help? I have atheros wireless card. I used this manual http://unsharptech.com/2008/10/31/atheros-wireless-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex/ to set it up first, but now it doesn't work
[18:09] <shawnmstout> ok
[18:09] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, I'm looking for info right now. gnome theme, right ?
[18:09] <Photoguy> Yes
[18:09] <ikaruga2099> hi all... say I installed ubuntu on my grandma's PC... how can I remotely admin her machine?
[18:09] <Photoguy> NicDumZ: yes
[18:09] <dr_Willis> !remote
[18:09] <Slart> ikaruga2099: ssh is a good start
[18:09] <Slart> ikaruga2099: the rest can be done from there
[18:09] <PSPdemon> oh hey dr_Willis :)
[18:09] <_VIM_> !vnc
[18:09] <steve_baker> i have a simple microsoft usb optical mouse and the scroll wheel doesn't work in intrepid, any ideas?
[18:09] <FreshPrince> anybody know how to mount a LG Mobile Phone?
[18:09] <dr_Willis> ikaruga2099,  ssh, and vncserver, -  but you got to be sure you can get through her router/isp to  her machine. :)
[18:09] <kriss3d> ikaruga2099 you can ssh her ip and log in that way
[18:10] <dr_Willis> FreshPrince,  with a cable.. most of those have a 'usb mode' you have to enable in the menus
[18:10] <ikaruga2099> thatl's the problem ....
[18:10] <slb_> moljac024, gotta go, IM me if you need more help
[18:10] <ikaruga2099> guys ... ssh/vnc require that she's not behind a firewall... However, I'm sure there are programs that will allow her to connect to ME ... as opposed to the other way
[18:11] <steve_baker> you just need to configure the firewall to allow the ssh traffic
[18:11] <ikaruga2099> or am I wrong?
[18:11] <ikaruga2099> steve_baker: don't have access to it ....
[18:11] <steve_baker> you could setup an ssh server on your end
[18:11] <ikaruga2099> ah... I see remote help assistant...
[18:11] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, seems quite hard. Can you try renaming the folder of the faulty theme ?
[18:11] <Slart> ikaruga2099: I think realvnc had a small executable that initiated the connection to your vnc client
[18:11] <steve_baker> and have them run an ssh client with a reverse tunnel
[18:11] <jota-_> hey im getting a segmentation fault when trying to run asterisk's oh323 channel on ubuntu? anyone has any idea on how to fix that?
[18:11] <Photoguy> NicDumZ: I can't login at all
[18:11] <moljac024> slb_: I found it
[18:12] <moljac024> roaming mode was off
[18:12] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, but you can login doing ctrl+alt+f1 !
[18:12] <moljac024> in some network configuration program
[18:12] <steve_baker> i have a simple microsoft usb optical mouse and the scroll wheel doesn't work in intrepid, any ideas?
[18:12] <rainmanp7> .
[18:12] <ikaruga2099> steve_baker: any tutorials on how to do that?
[18:12] <Photoguy> NicDumZ: no, it just goes to the terminal
[18:12] <slb_> moljac024, good to go?
[18:12] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, yes, then login in the terminal
[18:12] <moljac024> I recall him saying that somebody was trying to set up a wireless connection for him
[18:12] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, and rename the folder from the terminal
[18:12] <moljac024> must have been a dumb tard
[18:12] <moljac024> :D
[18:12] <Photoguy> NicDumZ: oh...
[18:12] <steve_baker> http://articles.techrepublic.com.com/5100-10878_11-5779944.html
[18:12] <Templis_> Anyone can hel, PLEASE!!
[18:12] <Templis_> HI! Just disabled and enabled wireless network (right mouse on tray), but it stopped to work! Can anyone help? I have atheros wireless card. I used this manual http://unsharptech.com/2008/10/31/atheros-wireless-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex/ to set it up first, but now it doesn't work
[18:12] <moljac024> slb_: yup, thanks
[18:12] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, I can help if you're not familiar with commandline
[18:13] <Danuk-men> como es el canal de c++ en español ?
[18:13] <nyaa> !spanish
[18:13] <slb_> Templis_, do iwconfig on command line
[18:14] <Chocotoff> How do i start Xserver + openbox from the command line
[18:14] <gabriel__> Hi everyone
[18:14] <Chocotoff> instead of using gdm or just startx
[18:14] <slb_> hi gabriel__
[18:14] <Templis_> slb_, janis@janis-laptop:~$ iwconfig
[18:14] <Photoguy> NicDumZ: Let me get this straight, cntl+alt+f1  and then I input my user/password, is it supposed to actually login to my normal ubnuntu desktop, or just show a command line?
[18:14] <Templis_> lo        no wireless extensions.
[18:14] <Templis_> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[18:14] <Templis_> wifi0     no wireless extensions.
[18:14] <gabriel__> I have the following error when i try to open synaptics manager: E: Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[18:14] <gabriel__> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:14] <gabriel__> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem.
[18:14] <gabriel__> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[18:14] <FloodBot1> Templis_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <Templis_> ath0      IEEE 802.11g  ESSID:""  Nickname:""
[18:14] <FloodBot1> gabriel__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:14] <Templis_>           Mode:Managed  Frequency:2.437 GHz  Access Point: Not-Associated
[18:14] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, show a commandline
[18:15] <slb_> Templis_, log out and log back in
[18:15] <steve_baker> i have a simple microsoft usb optical mouse and the scroll wheel doesn't work in intrepid, any ideas?
[18:15] <nyaa> Choctoff try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:15] <Chocotoff> i dont want to start it trough gdm
[18:15] <amitz> what version of ubuntu is the closest to lenny? thx in advance.
[18:16] <gabriel__> E: Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse)
[18:16] <gabriel__> E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:16] <gabriel__> Go to the repository dialog to correct the problem. E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[18:16] <Templis_> slb_ back
[18:16] <nyaa> choctoff is there a reason why not?
[18:16] <gabriel__> how can i fix this?
[18:16] <Skeptiker> Jack_Sparrow, It works! Thanks!
[18:16] <Jack_Sparrow> gabriel__ sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list
[18:17] <NicDumZ> Photoguy, when you got the command line, "cd ~/.themes", "ls" to get the theme list, and "mv faulty-theme temp" to rename your faulty theme
[18:17] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker cool... glad you were able to fix it
[18:17] <Chocotoff> i want to enter the machine in console, after that i don´t want to login again in gdm. Instead i just want to enter a window manager directly
[18:17] <gabriel__> Thanks Jack_Sparrow
[18:17] <dr_Willis> Chocotoff,  disable the gdm service.. edit the .xinitrc as you want.. and use 'startx'
[18:17] <Jack_Sparrow> gabriel__ that will just show us your sources after you  give us the link
[18:17] <gabriel__> ok
[18:17] <Chocotoff> alright ... can i use multiple .xinitrc´s for different startups?
[18:18] <igdijdg> any good blog website about opensource program
[18:18] <NicDumZ> pastebinit ? looks like a *great* util for helping out. I learned something today
[18:18] <dr_Willis> Chocotoff,  you could set up a complex menu  in .xinitrc and have it ask if you wanted... its a fancy bash shell script :)
[18:18] <gabriel__> E: Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.  This is what appears
[18:18] <GaMbi_DK> "sudo rm /home/gambi/.wine/drive_c/WAR/" -> cannot remove...... Is a directory.  Guessing "rm" isnt the right command for directory's.. what is? :)
[18:18] <Skeptiker> I am trying to install my webcam and I am following this guide: http://m560x-driver.wiki.sourceforge.net/howto_install It worked very well and I could see myself in cheese. However, then I wrote (stupidly) "export LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so" and now my webcam is not working properly. Is there anyway of reversing this?
[18:18] <dr_Willis> Chocotoff,  or checkout the 'startx' man pages.. it may take arguments
[18:18] <amitz> where can i get a tabular list of the version of important libraries used in various ubuntu version? thx in advance
[18:18] <NicDumZ> GaMbi_DK, rm -r ?
[18:18] <Chocotoff> thanks :)
[18:19] <steve_baker> i have a simple microsoft usb optical mouse and the scroll wheel doesn't work in intrepid, any ideas?
[18:19] <GaMbi_DK> NicDumZ, thx :) (what is -r) ?
[18:19] <NicDumZ> GaMbi_DK, -r stands for recursive, i.e. remove the contents and when the folder is empty, remove it
[18:19] <adam__> i thought recursive was -R
[18:19] <slb_> steve_baker, should work, has it ever worked?
[18:19] <Jack_Sparrow> Skeptiker use your editor to remove that change in =/usr/lib/libv4l/v4l1compat.so"
[18:19] <NicDumZ> adam__, both work, afair
[18:19] <GaMbi_DK> NicDumZ, thx m8! wary inlightning
[18:20] <steve_baker> it works with other os's
[18:20] <kriss3d> i have a question about wubi.. is it possible to download the image so it doesnt have to download whenever i want to reinstall ubuntu entirely ?
[18:20] <steve_baker> it worked in 8.04
[18:20] <Baatti> Is there software for linux like Photobooth?
[18:20] <amitz> adam_: sometimes it's -r, sometimes -R, depends on application
[18:20] <gabriel__> Jack_Sparrow, it appears E: Malformed line 60 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (URI parse) E: The list of sources could not be read.
[18:20] <_VIM_> igdijdg: try this http://www.fsf.org/blogs/
[18:20] <Jack_Sparrow> gabriel__ Look for a backup list in that folder
[18:20] <NicDumZ> GaMbi_DK, welcome; try to learn the "man" reflex : in this case "man rm" gives you the answer
[18:21] <slb_> steve_baker, stumped
[18:21] <steve_baker> :(
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gabriel__ from term cd/etc/apt                          ls sources.*
[18:21] <balachmar> Anyone know some good software to easily put digital video files on a DVD that is readable by a dvd player?
[18:21] <GaMbi_DK> NicDumZ, thx I will! :)
[18:21] <NicDumZ> ;)
[18:21] <Jack_Sparrow> gabriel__ sudo apt-get install pastebinit  && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list      should work if you are using ubuntu
[18:23] <Baatti> anyone know a program like Photobooth, that'll take pictures via my webcam?
[18:23] <_VIM_> !info cheese
[18:23] <miha> cheese is greaT:)
[18:23] <miha> it even says... CHEESE
[18:23] <Baatti> so, sudo apt-get install cheese?
[18:23] <slb_> balachmar, DeVeDe
[18:23] <_VIM_> yes Baatti
[18:25] <gabriel__> This is my source list Jack_Sparrow:  # deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 8.10 _Intrepid Ibex_ - Release amd64 (20081029.2)]/ intrepid main restricted
[18:25] <gabriel__> # See http://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes for how to upgrade to
[18:25] <gabriel__> # newer versions of the distribution.
[18:25] <gabriel__> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted
[18:25] <gabriel__> deb-src http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main restricted
[18:25] <FloodBot1> gabriel__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:25] <gabriel__> ## Major bug fix updates produced after the final release of the
[18:25] <SiVA_> some of my kde apps don't have a title bar, border when using ubuntu
[18:25] <amitz> answering my own question: http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu
[18:25] <kriss3d> anyone who knows about WUBI ?
[18:25] <SiVA_> I have the 4.2 kde stuff installed
[18:26] <SiVA_> but I'm using gnome for the window manager
[18:26] <Jack_Sparrow> kriss3d I know enough not to recommend it and to avoid it at all costs
[18:26] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:26] <balachmar> slb_: k thanks!
[18:26] <muddler> Does anyone know if it's possible to install ubuntu beside a previous version without overwriting the current MBR?
[18:26] <NicDumZ> gabriel__, if you do what you're told, the command which has been given to you will provide us a way to get your sources list
[18:26] <marek_> hi, i have a serious problem, when i try to login, screen flickers, and then i see loginbox again, can you help me?
[18:26] <elliott> is there any reason why my PId numbers would be skyrocketing? I run "ps aux |grep aux" and the pid is 2000, but ten seconds later i run it again and it's 2200
[18:27] <steve_baker> muddler, in the install just choose not to install a bootloader
[18:27] <elliott> the actual number of processes doesn't change
[18:27] <NicDumZ> elliott, why would you worry?
[18:27] <muddler> ok, thanks steve
[18:27] <elliott> it seems strange
[18:27] <steve_baker> its a button on the last dialog
[18:27] <steve_baker> Advanced
[18:27] <NicDumZ> elliott, unless you have significant slowness... I don't think there's anything to worry about
[18:27] <elliott> what on earth is spawning 200 processes in 10 seconds?
[18:28] <muddler> ok, cheers (I'm using the alternate cd installer so hope it's on there too)
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> elliott: use ps -ef to find out
[18:28] <Chocotoff> I made my samba configs dissappear... after that i tried to purge sambe and reinstall... but they are still not there
[18:29] <Chocotoff> how can i get them back hehe
[18:29] <NicDumZ> elliott, think about it, maybe the highest pid achieved was 2150, but all the processes stopped, then 50 process appear (whatever) while 50 other die: you get same number of process, and it appears that pids "jumped" of 200 units
[18:29] <Guest59870> hola
[18:29] <gabriel__> Thanks a lot Jack_Sparrow, my problem is solved
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Chocotoff: restore from your backups
[18:29] <Jack_Sparrow> gabriel__ glad to help
[18:29] <NicDumZ> elliott, it's not because the highest pid you see is 2000 that the next spawned process will get 2001 as a pid =)
[18:29] <Guest59870> hola
[18:29] <Slown> hello
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> !hi | Guest59870
[18:30] <Slown> I have 2 pc
[18:30] <Chocotoff> i never made nog backups :P
[18:30] <Chocotoff> *g
[18:30] <Slown> I want to upload files from my pc2 to my pc1
[18:30] <Guest59870> hola slown
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Chocotoff: then you will have to reform the file
[18:30] <SiVA_> but I'm using gnome for the window manager
[18:30] <Chocotoff> It doesn´t come with a fresh install?
[18:30] <Slown> I want to administrate my blog
[18:30] <SiVA_> some of my kde apps don't have a title bar, border when using ubuntu
[18:30] <Slown> from ftp
[18:31] <Slown> do you have any ideas ?
[18:31] <Slown> to do this
[18:31] <defranzi> hey guys, anybody here to help me with my audio problem?
[18:31] <steve_baker> Slown, fireftp?
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: if you are using an nvidia card with compiz yuo need some extra lines in xorg.conf
[18:31] <Guest59870> como instalo una impresora canon mp210 en ubuntu 8.04?
[18:31]  * NicDumZ heats "audio problems"... and runs
[18:31] <NicDumZ> hears*
[18:31] <NicDumZ> grrr
[18:31] <Slown> I want only /var/www
[18:31] <NicDumZ> failure.
[18:31] <Slown> not all files
[18:31] <Slown> just to update my blog
[18:31] <elliott> NicDumZ: if I run the command I posted above several times per second (up, enter, up, enter, repeat quickly), it increases normally mostly, but once per second it jumps by 20
[18:32] <SiVA_> ActionParsnip: I'm using nvidia, but no compiz
[18:32] <kriss3d> Hmm whats the correct file i should use for loading my fw script ?
[18:32] <NicDumZ> elliott, well you most likely have discovered the activity of some daemons here
[18:32] <leeping2008> Hi there, I just ssh'd into my machine and I can't get X windows .. I don't even get a $DISPLAY environment variable.  Am I missing any packages?  Thanks!
[18:33] <NicDumZ> elliott, makes sense right? from time to time, daemons are scheduled to run, wake up, spawn a few processes, and wait()
[18:33] <elliott> found it, /bin/sh /etc/ati/authatieventsd.sh grant :0 /tmp/atievntX.pyM4QE
[18:33] <kfyit> leeping2008 -> from same hosts?  did you try with -Y option ?
[18:33] <mikebeecham> I know this is a bit of a long shot, but Apple Mac have a widget that tells you when your favourite TV Shows are on next...does Ubuntu have anything similiar in screenlets, etc?
[18:33] <jken146> leeping2008: you want to do ssh -Y to get X forwarding
[18:33] <leeping2008> kfyit and jken146, I did use the -Y option
[18:34] <adam__> in the ubuntu bash shell, items that are blocked red with white text represent what? i.e. mount, su, unmount
[18:35] <AJC_Z0> adam__: Look at the "ls -l" output
[18:35] <_VIM_> Slown: i'd recommend openssh-server instead of FTPd its safer, and with ssh you can remote control your blog as well, im not really good with configuring all that , so you'll have to google it :)
[18:35] <AJC_Z0> Compare that to another executable
[18:35] <ozzloy> what do i have to install to get the command "repo"?
[18:35] <kfyit> leeping2008 -> the hosts you logged into, whats the result of    xpdyinfo   command ?
[18:36] <ozzloy> http://source.android.com/roadmap/cupcake as in installing this
[18:36] <leeping2008> kfyit, the output is "command not found"
[18:36] <kfyit> leeping2008 -> mistyped,   xdpyinfo
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: http://pastebin.com/f49320d81
[18:36] <Dan9311> Hello,
[18:37] <leeping2008> kfyit, the output is: xdpyinfo:  unable to open display "".
[18:37] <ActionParsnip> SiVA_: make sure you have the glx lines like mine
[18:37] <SiVA_> thanks
[18:37] <kfyit> leeping2008 -> i guess that tells you that X is not running on the host you sshed into
[18:38] <Dan9311> Hello, I'm running the latest version of ubuntu. I'm trying to install a new theme, but it is not working. Instead the theme window closes.
[18:38] <Dan9311> I'm  trying to get this (http://maketecheasier.com/turn-your-ubuntu-hardy-to-mac-osx-leopard/2008/07/23) working
[18:38] <leeping2008> kfyit, if it helps at all, I installed the Ubuntu server.  It doesn't come with an X desktop, and I'm guessing that either I'm missing a package or I need to start a daemon
[18:38] <slb_> Dan9311, why bother?
[18:38] <Dan9311> slb_ : Because I want it..
[18:38] <NicDumZ> ozzloy, what about reading http://source.android.com/download/using-repo ^-^ ? there's an "installing repo" section
[18:38] <kfyit> leeping2008 -> i think the server install does not have X server installed,
[18:39] <ozzloy> NicDumZ: thanks
[18:39] <leeping2008> kfyit, that's what I thought .. I would like to install the X server, but I don't know what package I need
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Dan9311: run the theme manager from cterminal, when it crshes you will get intelligent outputs
[18:39] <Dan9311> Anyone help with what I just asked/
[18:39] <jken146> leeping2008: xserver-xorg
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> Dan9311: which you can then searchg for
[18:39] <bauer_> hey i just installed ubuntu 8.10 adm 64. I can't get a connection to my internet ?
[18:40] <leeping2008> jken146, it's already installed.  "Already the newest version"
[18:40] <Chocotoff> how do i fix that
[18:40] <leeping2008> Maybe I just haven't started it?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> bauer_: wired or wireless?
[18:40] <Chocotoff> ## /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: samba is broken or not fully installed
[18:40] <bauer_> ActionParsnip, wired
[18:40] <Dan9311> Still waiting for hel to my question
[18:40] <Dan9311> help*
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> Chocotoff: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install samba
[18:40] <npobajl> bauer_ how are you then chatting right now ? :) wireless or wired connection is what you are trying to establish?
[18:40] <defranzi1> Dan9311 me too...
[18:41] <ActionParsnip> bauer_: run lspci, one line will identify the card, you can websearch from there
[18:41] <leeping2008> Should I remove xserver-xorg and reinstall it?
[18:41] <bauer_> npobajl, from my suse linux
[18:41] <hmaroufi_> hi every one
[18:41] <jken146> leeping2008: probably don't need to
[18:41] <npobajl> bauer_ see what ActionParsnip said
[18:41] <Houston> not sure if this is the right channel guys. but need some help with my ubuntu
[18:41] <leeping2008> jken146, is there a command that I need in order to get the x server running?  Maybe I need to put it into my rc.d as well ..
[18:41] <Chocotoff> still nothing.. http://pastebin.com/m5803de3d
[18:42] <jken146> leeping2008: the box you're sshing into, is it running ubuntu|
[18:42] <jken146> |
[18:42] <leeping2008> jken146, it's running Ubuntu Server 8.04 LTS
[18:42] <bauer_> ActionParsnip, thx ill try that.
[18:42] <acetoline> I'm installing ubuntu 8.10. Any issues I should know about?
[18:43] <jken146> leeping2008: ok, erm.,
[18:43] <meyou> lol
[18:44] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[18:44] <miha> :)
[18:44] <Houston> :-)
[18:45] <Houston> ah
[18:45] <meyou> :)
[18:45] <leeping2008> :)
[18:45] <Houston> so who's up for helping a noob to linux? :-)
[18:45] <defranzi1> when i try to play an audio or a video file i can't hear the sound, so i started ie xine from the terminal an got an error message: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)
[18:45] <leeping2008> jken146, is there a reason for xserver-xorg to be installed but not running? perhaps?
[18:45] <kriss3d> Houston whast the problem ?
[18:45] <german> hola
[18:46] <Houston> I downloaded ubunto 8.10 but before i installed i chose the option to check and see if the disk was corrupt
[18:46] <Guest39566> algun canal en español?
[18:46] <Houston> it said something to the affect of my cpu was not compatible with the version i have
[18:46] <NicDumZ> !spanish
[18:46] <adam__> !latin
[18:46] <Guest39566> gracias
[18:47] <Scunizi> Houston: this is a big channel with lots of people.. use the nick of the person you're talking to at the beginning of your line.. type the first few characters and hit TAB to auto complete..
[18:47] <jken146> leeping2008: maybe, I'm not sure
[18:47] <Houston> sorry :-(
[18:47] <Guest57064> !french
[18:47] <Scunizi> Houston: then you're line to them will be highlighted on their end.. no worries.. just makes following the conversation easier..
[18:47] <Scunizi> :)
[18:47] <Houston> msg kriss3d better?
[18:48] <npobajl> Scunizi: not exactly... the XChat doesn't seem to auto-complete correctly... :) Well... not allways... my XChat @ work does it properly, @ home two, but the one on my laptop doesn't ... ;)
[18:48] <Scunizi> Houston: you don't have to use msg in the line.. not necessary.
[18:48] <leeping2008> jken146, I'll try to figure it out .. thanks :)
[18:48] <Scunizi> npobajl: I don't have a problem.. using xchat2 not xchat gnome.. sometimes the there are several nicks that the characters are the same and you have to include more.. but no issues here.
[18:49] <kfyit> leeping2008 -> does it have a /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file?
[18:50] <akravets> hello
[18:50] <Scunizi> Houston: just ask you question and if someone knows the answer they pipe up.. :)
[18:50] <npobajl> Scunizi: XchatGnome is what I'm using now only because of the auto-complete ;) Told u several lines up - it is not everywhere that my auto-complete doesn't work... maybe I should consider re-installing the program....
[18:50] <alex_sleiborg> Hi. I have installed ubuntu 8.10 on my mothers computer instead of win xp. But i can't get the lan to work, lspci says that a broadcom corp. NetLink BCM5787M Gigabit ethernet PCI Express is there?
[18:51] <tag> is there any reason to put partitions in any particular order?  If I want to separate my home directory and /, should I put one infront of the other or does it matter at all?
[18:51] <blip-> hi all,   on 8.04 i've got the latest repo drivers for nvidia (version 169 nvidia-glx-new).... This version is old so I uninstalled it and then downloaded the latest 180 drivers from nvidia.... ran the installer and have it compile the kernel module... restarted the machine and X doesn't start up nor can I get to tt0 shell login.... the monitor is on but nothing there... machine only responds to ctrl-alt-del,  ctrl-alt-backspace has no effect.   I didn't
[18:51] <blip-> modify xorg.conf.   I managed to ssh into the machine and fix it by removing 180 and restoring the old drivers from the repositories.... but i still need the new version... any idea what happened there ?   thanks
[18:51] <PSPdemon> how do i list all my dev devices?
[18:51] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: what does ifconfig say?
[18:51] <Scunizi> npobajl: yea.. realized that after I hit enter.. sorry 'bout that.. didn't read fully.  If it was an upgraded system just rename ~./xchat2 to something and see if that fixes it.
[18:51] <Houston> i downloaded ubuntu 8.10, i chose the option to check if disk is corrupt, it said that the version of ubuntu i have is for certain cpu's where as mine is an i868..
[18:51] <PSPdemon> ( or atleast how i can find out what dev is my cd/dvd burner
[18:51] <Houston> so im guessing i need a different version of ubuntu for my comp.
[18:51] <PSPdemon> lol
[18:51] <akravets> just wanted to say kudos to Ubuntu Remix! I had Ubuntu Hardy running on my Lenovo S10 for a while now, and wasn't impressed with performance: it's an Atom processor and I am running on 512 MB of RAM. After installing Remix, this thing runs like a champ. Thanks guys!
[18:51] <npobajl> nice split
[18:51] <Scunizi> Houston: what did you download?
[18:52] <soh-mrtot> hi all.
[18:52] <Houston> ubuntu 8.10 from the  ubuntu website
[18:52] <dambulu> hi, is it possible to mount as a non root user ?
[18:52] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: what does ifconfig say?
[18:52] <soh-mrtot> Question: I want to add a simple command to my startup sequence. But it should be executed as the last command at all. how can i do that?
[18:52] <Scunizi> Houston: there are a couple of versions.. Desktop livd x86 and Desktop live amd64 and Alternate Install cd
[18:53] <Scunizi> Houston: what kind of machine do you have?
[18:53] <Houston> disk was name ubuntu 8.10 amd6
[18:53] <kriss3d> it looks like he has a itanium cpu
[18:53] <Scunizi> kriss3d: Houston I don't know what an itanium cpu is.. can you help him kriss3d
[18:54] <alex_sleiborg> npobajl: It won't get any IP. But there also a Atheros 802.11 wireless card, and i can't get that to work either
[18:54] <NicDumZ> PSPdemon, lspci
[18:54] <kriss3d> Scunizi i think he just needs to get the itanium version
[18:54] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: does your ISP/router use DHCP or manually configured IP addresses?
[18:54] <unop> alex_sleiborg, what model is your atheros card?
[18:54] <Houston> i have a toshiba laptop, Gen. Intel CPU T2050
[18:54] <Chocotoff> Anyone knows how i can revive my samba?  http://pastebin.com/m5803de3d
[18:54] <Scunizi> kriss3d: didn't know there was one.. can you point him to it?
[18:55] <nite_johnboy> Hi - Does anyone know if ATI HD 3450 video card is supported in Ibex ? ?
[18:55] <wmoraes> oi
[18:55] <PSPdemon> NicDumZ, that just lists my pci devices
[18:55] <kriss3d> i cant.. but i belive i saw a version for itanium..
[18:55] <NicDumZ> PSPdemon, what do you need?
[18:55] <alex_sleiborg> npobajl: They use DHCP
[18:55] <FD_F> is Straw rss reader still supported ?
[18:55] <PSPdemon> my cd/dvd drive
[18:55] <jimmygoon> I wish I could get linkinus to not show join/parts :(
[18:55] <NicDumZ> PSPdemon, ls /dev/ ?
[18:55] <PSPdemon> its probably /dev/scd0
[18:55] <PSPdemon> hmm
[18:56] <Scunizi> kriss3d: why wouldn't the x86 version work for Houston ??  is it that different?  (address to me and Houston so he can follow)
[18:56] <alex_sleiborg> unop: I actually don't know what card it is. But lspci says that is a AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express adapter
[18:56] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: had a WiFi card like that.... couldn't get it to work no matter what!
[18:57] <kriss3d> Scunizi Houston i just belive i saw a version specially for it.. but i suppose she should try google for ubuntu and i868
[18:57] <IndyGunFreak> alex_sleiborg: that device is easy to get working, if you can give me about 20min or so.. i'll be right back and talk you through it
[18:57] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: are you sure your ISP has added your MAC address in his list?
[18:58] <the_insider> hi
[18:58] <leeping2008> kfyit, I think I fixed my problem.  I installed xinit and xauth
[18:58] <Droopsta915> Hello, I'm trying to set up my Evolution Mail Account. I use yahoo, how do know what type of mail server that is?
[18:58] <leeping2008> and I typed in "startx"
[18:58] <alex_sleiborg> npobajl: Thats sounds like a lot of trouble. Maybe it's just easier to install xp again
[18:58] <poncio> hi! i just update my kernell and my restricted drivers stoped working... how do i fix this? going to 'system'->'administration'->'restricted drivers' does not show my driver....
[18:58] <the_insider> when i install "libssl0.9.8" where is it stored ?
[18:58] <leeping2008> I'm not sure how to make it start with the computer, though...
[18:58] <alex_sleiborg> IndyGunFreak: That's sounds great:)
[18:58] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: it's really easier just to pick up the phone :) Do you have a router there, or the cable gets directly into the PC?
[18:59] <unop> alex_sleiborg, you don't happen to have the NC10 there, do you?
[18:59] <alex_sleiborg> npobajl: Sure, my own laptop is using same connection right now, so i can't see why i should not work with the other computer
[19:00] <alex_sleiborg> npobajl: There is a router
[19:00] <kouya> what is cabextract used for?
[19:00] <diffred> what the heck youtube main page is not loading, but the rest of internet works well :S
[19:00] <unop> alex_sleiborg, on my laptop - i had to build the madwifi drivers from source to get the wireless NIC working .. i believe it's the same chipset you have
[19:01] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: Most ISPs lock down connections via LAN Card's MAC address ... so all you have to do is call them. If you do have a router beside you that's another story... but if you got router there I still can't figure out why doesn't he give you an internal IP address...
[19:01] <alex_sleiborg> unop: What is a NC10?
[19:01] <Houston> not sure that im sending these mess. right to both u Scunizi  and kriss3d
[19:01] <unop> kouya, extracting .CAB files  (microsoft cabinet files)
[19:01] <unop> alex_sleiborg, it's a netbook from samsung - has the same atheros chipset
[19:02] <Scunizi> Houston: Do you remember if you downloaded the x86 version?
[19:02] <dr_Willis> bye all
[19:02] <npobajl> alex_sleiborg: have you looked in System > Preferences > Network Configuration ?
[19:02] <diffred> what the ... youtube main page is not loading, but the rest of internet works well :S
[19:02] <Elfranne_> ∕msg nickserv help
[19:03] <Scunizi> Houston: the x86 version should work on all platforms except powerpc I believe.. even if you have a 64 bit capable machine.. try booting from the cd and see if you get the desktop.. that will really be the determining factor.
[19:03] <ruben231> hi anyone tried setting up dns server with bind...
[19:04] <jrib> ruben231: best to just ask the channel your question.  If someone knows the answer, they will try to help you
[19:05] <nite_johnboy> Does a PCI Express ATI HD 3450 work in Intrepid Ibex ? ?
[19:05] <diffred> please any other web browser to check if youtube is not loading for firefox fault
[19:05] <ruben231> i installed a bind dns server on my ubuntu...for name resolution==> on setting of zone do i have to make external zone even i use forwarders for my dns resolution..
[19:05] <alex_sleiborg> npobajl: Sure i'm in there right now. But i'm actually trying to get the wireless to work right now, it's more importent
[19:06] <b^j> ruben231, are you just using the system as a caching dns server?
[19:06] <Elfanne> anyone can help me saying what is wrong with mi dhcpd.conf : http://pastebin.com/m6203a2ab
[19:06] <Level_5> anyone here using a broadcom wireless card?
[19:06] <jrib> diffred: links2, epiphany?
[19:07] <hatter243> Elfanne, bad netmask, says so right there :P
[19:08] <ruben231>  b^j yes for my local and i would like to set forwarders
[19:08] <Elfanne> hatter243, yeah I saw but in the conf file the netmask is correct ... I hope so ... is it not correct ?
[19:08] <betterhands> anyone here have recommendations for an itunes-like app other than Rhythmbox?
[19:08] <filleokus_> Hi. I have kind'a messed up my ubuntu install. How do I reset autostarting apps / gdm-settings from rescue terminal?
[19:08] <jrib> !player | betterhands
[19:08] <hatter243> Elfanne, do you really want a class A netmask? That allows like 65000 hosts or something
[19:09] <alien> installed proftpd GUI, but when I try to run it it gives me Failed to execute child process "su-to-root" (No such file or directory), what to do?
[19:09] <ruben231> my problem is..do ihave to set my external ip for information and zone of my dns..?
[19:09] <ruben231> or i just use my internal...
[19:09] <jrib> alien: install the "menu" package
[19:09] <ruben231> how about the forwarders..
[19:09] <alien> jrib apt-get install menu?
[19:09] <bongoman> question: Persistent USB Ubuntu 8.10 -> I don't want to use it as root, is this possible ? (want to be save)
[19:09] <betterhands> i'm sorry guys--i need it to work well with my 30 gb (5th gen i think?)
[19:09] <jrib> alien: sure
[19:09] <incorrect> hi, does anyone know if there is a package for the sun mozilla 64bit plugin?
[19:09] <jrib> !ipod | betterhands
[19:10] <unop> ruben231, it should be enough to define the zones for your domain(s) .. and use the forwarders to resolve all other domains
[19:10] <jrib> incorrect: java plugin from sun?  Is there such a thing yet?
[19:10] <ruben231> b^j:....?
[19:10] <incorrect> jrib, i thought there was a big deal about it
[19:10] <hatter243> Elfanne, I'm pretty sure it's because your subnet is "10.10.10.0" if you were to change that to subnet 10.0.0.0 I believe it will work out. Alternatively you could set your subnet to 255.255.255.0 and your option broadcast-address to 10.10.10.255
[19:10] <b^j> ruben231, you shouldn't need to have a zone if you aren't serving names for your domain
[19:10] <Elfanne> hatter243, I used it just to make a difference between my to differents networks here ... is it  bad ?
[19:10] <jrib> incorrect: link?
[19:10] <betterhands> thanks
[19:11] <IndyGunFreak> alex_sleiborg: did you get it working?
[19:11] <ruben231>  unop: yes...but do i need an external zone....? for my wan.....coz i have forwarders...
[19:12] <ruben231> b^j: or i just set an internal zone...thats all...?
[19:12] <filleokus_> disable autologin from terminal?
[19:12] <filleokus_> anyone?
[19:12] <b^j> ruben231, if i am understanding your question properly yes
[19:13] <unop> ruben231,  well, no -- the external zone is only used for hosts on the internet wanting to resolve hosts in your domain .. for you on an internal network, an internal zone should suffice -- you might need both depending on your needs
[19:14] <latexer> is upgrading from Feisty directly to Intrepid suggested/supported? If not, what steps should I follow?
[19:14] <jrib> latexer: no, you must upgrade to gusty, then hardy, then intrepid
[19:14] <jrib> !upgrade | latexer
[19:14] <judgen> Any recommendations for photo realistic icon themes for gnome?
[19:15] <NicDumZ> latexer, upgrading is not such a harass anyway... should be done within an hour I guess
[19:15] <latexer> ok, will do it in steps.
[19:15] <latexer> jrib: thanks for the link.
[19:16] <Level_5> anyone here had success with broadcom wireless card?
[19:16] <jrib> Level_5: sure, it's better to just ask your question
[19:17] <ruben231>  unop:can my external zone be a conflict with my forwarders....? if ill set it up also..
[19:17] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[19:18] <Jampiter> Hi
[19:18] <grrreat> betterhands: try songbird
[19:18] <nickUK```> HEllo, I am currently having a problem with my Apt-get nothing much is there
[19:18] <Jampiter> How do I install a font in Ubuntu? Is there a way to do it automatically?
[19:19] <Jampiter> nickUK```: Have you tried "apt-get update"?
[19:19] <nickUK```> Yes
[19:19] <Jampiter> Have you got the repository of the package you want?
[19:19] <wiehan> does anyone here have good knowledge about IPCop, I would gladly chat in private if this is such a problem talking in the wrong channel?
[19:20] <nickUK```> WEll its the normal things which normally come with it
[19:20] <nickUK```> LIke WIne
[19:20] <kriss3d> Jampiter yeah i saw a install guide for the microsoft fonts.. really easy.. a simple copy/paste for it
[19:20] <nickUK```> VLC Media player
[19:20] <nickUK```> and xCHat
[19:20] <FloodBot1> nickUK```: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <FloodBot3> nickUK```: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:20] <quibbler> Jampiter: you can put the ttf file in ~/.fonts
[19:21] <Jampiter> kriss3d, quibbler, thank you :D
[19:21] <grrreat> Jampiter: yeah, try apt-cache search xfont\|ttf
[19:21] <grrreat> heh too late
[19:21] <mooded> hey all.. anybody knows if its possible to get aqualung work with pulseaudio nicely ?
[19:21] <Jampiter> grrreat: Will that do it automatially?
[19:21] <slb_> Jampiter, sudo aptitude install msttcorefonts
[19:21] <Jampiter> Like right click > install?
[19:21] <grrreat> that'll list all available fonts
[19:21] <grrreat> but maybe you wanbt msttcorefonts
[19:22] <kriss3d> yeah thats the ones i installed
[19:22] <NicDumZ> nickUK```, sudo apt-get install pastebinit && pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[19:22] <Jampiter> How do I get to ~/.fonts?
[19:22] <anglxs> I need help with firefox and streaming video. The problem is when i play a streaming video it just freezes right away. I downloaded gstream coders and stuff but they seem to collide with something else in my system. Any help?
[19:22] <jrib> Jampiter: nautilus ~/.fonts    You may have to create it first.
[19:22] <grrreat> yeah there is no ~/.fonts by default
[19:22] <hou5ton> Is there an Ubuntu software product that I can use to clone a DVD to my harddrive?
[19:22] <slb_> anglxs, try installing mozilla-mplayer
[19:23] <slb_> hou5ton, k9copy
[19:23] <Jampiter> jrib: tHANK YOU :)
[19:23] <noips> hello, Im having problems with google earth 5's update today, I just installed it over a previous 4.3 install i belive and it starts up but crashes 5 secs later, terminal shows this as the error ./googleearth-bin: relocation error: /usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8: symbol BIO_test_flags, version OPENSSL_0.9.8 not defined in file libcrypto.so.0.9.8 with link time reference
[19:23] <Jampiter> Eh
[19:23] <jrib> !dvd | hou5ton
[19:23] <Jampiter> Thank you :)
[19:24] <nickUK```> hello
[19:24] <nickUK```> Who was it i just PMED?
[19:24] <GruSum> b nnnnnnnnnnnnn
[19:26] <anglxs> slb_: didnt work, the thing is that I also don't have sound in youtube videos :S I dunno what did I mess up but i cant find it
[19:26] <felix_> #subtracker
[19:27] <s0101> I need some help with blocking amsn through my dlink 604 router does anybody know what ips? (teen daughter needs to study)
[19:27] <NicDumZ> anglxs, I sort of always have these kind of problems; at some point pulseaudio server seem to crash when playing flash; and from that time I dont get any sound
[19:27] <adam__> you should be able to just add the URL to the block list
[19:28] <NicDumZ> anglxs, apart from youtub, do you have sound, right now ?
[19:28] <kriss3d> s0101 thats about impossible. loads of free web msn available
[19:28] <grrreat> s0101: run wireshark and eavesdrop, much more fun.
[19:28] <adam__> s0101: if she's smart she'll just proxy server around it heh
[19:28] <kriss3d> depends how old she is really
[19:29] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[19:30] <grrreat> !microsoft
[19:30] <s0101> to be honnest the is quite green ;)
[19:30] <nyaa> NicDumz try going to system > administration > synaptic package manager and installing the libflash files
[19:30] <s0101> whats that with wireshark?
[19:31] <s0101> i have that :)
[19:31] <Travis-42> what's a good tool to monitor hardware temperatures?  the panel sensors applet is not working for my cpu.
[19:31] <NicDumZ> nyaa, done ; tried approximately all the possible combos for this
[19:31] <churl> someone please look over my sources.list and let me know if there's something obviously wrong with it http://paste.ubuntu.com/112935/
[19:31] <grrreat> s0101: run it =) you should be able to see the entire msn conversations
[19:31] <NicDumZ> nyaa, it gets better, but I still get sound glitches from time to time
[19:31] <judgen> under wich category does the gnome-panel background images fall on gnome-look.org?
[19:31] <gafir777> Hi, I'm new to ubuntu and I can't seem to remember my password to get into phpmyadmin / MySQL on my localhost Apache2. Is there a way I could find it?
[19:32] <grrreat> s0101: in addition to everything else going across your network...
[19:32] <incorrect> where can i get the gtk2 smooth engine from? there seem to be themes that require it, but missing the gtk2-smooth engine
[19:32] <freako> \ls
[19:32] <s0101> do i put in her ip?
[19:32] <kriss3d> s0101 you just run it.. it looks at every traffic on your lan..
[19:33] <filleokus_> gafir777: http://blog.dotkam.com/2007/04/10/mysql-reset-lost-root-password/
[19:33] <filleokus_> :)
[19:33] <gafir777> thanks
[19:33] <s0101> do i go to capture?
[19:33] <gafir777> phpmyadmin password is always the same as the mysql server password, right?
[19:33] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to append a line to all files in a directory (including its sub-directories). I'm using " echo >> foo * ", but that doesn't move into the sub-directories. Where am I going wrong?
[19:33] <grrreat> s0101: you can, or just capture everything on your active network interface (ex: eth0)
[19:33] <s0101> aha
[19:34] <filleokus_> gafir777: dont know, but if you find out your mysql-password, you can haxx the phpmyadmin password aswell
[19:34] <grrreat> s0101: yeah go to capture and make sure it's doing the live update thing
[19:34] <gafir777> ok thanks filleokus, i'll give it a shot! :)
[19:34] <filleokus_> no problem gafir777 :)
[19:34] <freako> @find jaguares
[19:35] <s0101> I capture it all now but all i see is a bunch of ips
[19:35] <freako> Hi, Is this xchat like mIRC? to download content?
[19:35] <ohzie> Where does cups stick network print jobs?
[19:36] <ohzie> like when someone prints to a printer on my machine, it uploads that file somewhere, for the printer, right?
[19:37] <ruben231> hi anyone suggest on my testing for resolve on my bind dns server.....http://pastebin.com/m6d05641b
[19:38] <freako> Hi, Is this xchat like mIRC? to download content?
[19:38] <s0101> how can i see more whats going on than ip adresses?
[19:39] <grrreat> s0101: look for packets using the MSNMS protocol. filter all other packets but those if you like
[19:39] <kriss3d> s0101 you can see all http traffic like which websites she visits.. msn conversation. forms she submit..
[19:39] <Archi88> anyone recommend good app. similar to apples itunes?
[19:39] <kriss3d> freako you can download things via DCC yes
[19:40] <churl> I get errors when i update.  Here's my sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/112935/
[19:40] <brainac0cult> eerrm hello
[19:40] <kriss3d> hi
[19:40] <Lalaith> hello
[19:40] <Archi88> hi
[19:41] <slb_> Archi88, i like quodlibet, others are rythmbox and amarok
[19:41] <quibbler> churl: what errors?
[19:41] <churl> quibbler: one sec
[19:41] <brainac0cult> im gonna kill myself bye!
[19:41] <kriss3d> ehmm ok
[19:41] <ArcSighter> hi
[19:41] <kriss3d> you like windows that much ?
[19:41] <grrreat> brainac0cult: have fun.
[19:41] <brainac0cult> not really
[19:41] <MatBoy> it seems that alsa does not give sound on a soundcard anymore when I take my PC out of suspend mode... can I re start something ?
[19:41] <ArcSighter> how can I map a external network port into a internal network host with iptables
[19:41] <brainac0cult> but its better than this hell
[19:42] <Talker> My wireless network card was not set as ath0 when i booted up now. I can find it in lspci. What to do?
[19:42] <carpii_> see, at least ubuntu gives you the choice of suiciding. Windows would just make it mandatory
[19:42] <grrreat> :D
[19:42] <brainac0cult> im being sierious
[19:42] <grrreat> so are we
[19:42] <brainac0cult> im only telling you guys cos you cant do anything about it
[19:43] <nyaa> !suicide
[19:43] <grrreat> !moo
[19:43] <latexer> Ok, so the upgrade to Gutsy from Feisty isn't working.
[19:43] <brainac0cult> !myself
[19:43] <grrreat> uhhh.. F befor G
[19:43] <grrreat> +e
[19:43] <slb_> latexer, just do a clean install
[19:43] <latexer> If I follow the suggestion, and just *add* lines refering to the new location of the feisty stuff, then it bombs trying to update off the old URLs.
[19:43] <ArcSighter> people, how to map a port using iptables???
[19:44] <brainac0cult> !hentai!!!!! :)
[19:44] <churl> quibbler: when i click "check" in "update manager"  under "show for individual files" I'm getting a lot of "failed" responces
[19:44] <latexer> slb_: having to back up /home and re-install was something I was hoping to avoid.
[19:44] <ArcSighter> churl: that's normal
[19:44] <churl> quibbler: intrepid security
[19:44] <Talker> How do i "mount" a wlan card?
[19:44] <churl> ArcSighter: good to know!
[19:44] <jhass840> Anyone know how to format a microSD card?
[19:44] <latexer> slb_: feisty -> gutsy -> hardy -> intrepid sounds "reasonable"
[19:44] <s0101_> are u sure Amsn isusing msnms?
[19:44] <slb_> latexer, is home on its own partition?
[19:44] <latexer> but it's not working.
[19:45] <slb_> latexer, that's the hard way
[19:45] <latexer> slb_: no, it's not.
[19:45] <slb_> ok, latexer go for it
[19:45] <latexer> (i've inherited the maintenance of this machine, if I'd done it from the start, it would have had a separate /home.
[19:45] <freako> LIST
[19:46] <slb_> latexer, your choice
[19:46] <paul_> hello i am having problems with my news  server it keeps saying dns lookup failed for hostname: news.giganews.com, i have done a dig to www.google.com i it states that it is using the correct dns server, does anyone know what im doin wrong, i`m using hellanzb
[19:46] <carpii_> you can still move home to another partition
[19:46] <latexer> slb_: and I'm asking for any help in doing the feisty -> gutsy, if anyone has any insight.
[19:46] <ArcSighter> hey people i want to map a port from a external server into a internal lan host, how to do that with iptables/nat???
[19:46] <ozzloy> is there a function i can call to keep the gnome screensaver from activating?
[19:46] <regeya> was just thinkning that carpii_ many partition types can be resized, if that's also an issue, so you could make room for your new partition
[19:47] <IndyGunFreak> latexer: feisty is past its end of life, there's places where you can download CDs with the old sources, so you can upgrade
[19:47] <grrreat> s0101_: no, but it's quite likely. Of course there won't be any MSNMS traffic until someone gets on there and starts chatting.
[19:47] <ozzloy> or to tell it that there is still some activity going on, so don't sleep the screen?
[19:47] <kriss3d> carpii_ you know.. brain guy there just made it to bash.org
[19:47] <Photoguy> Can somebody please look at my problem here?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058051
[19:47] <carpii_> hah, great :)
[19:47] <latexer> IndyGunFreak: That might be an approach that would work, i'll dig on that.
[19:47] <regeya> I have a real frankenstein of a machine here that I should be shot for setting up the way I did...I've got lvm2 volumes spanning pata and usb drives :-}
[19:47] <dennda> Which nvidia driver version did resolve the slow 2d rendering bug that e.g. made firefox scrolling slow?
[19:47] <ndf> anyone know of a decent gnome panel applet that can record a screencasts?
[19:47] <slb_> latexer, you can ask whatever you want, keep in mind though that there are easier ways to do things, and no one here is obliged to help you do things the hard way that would waste more of their time
[19:47] <whatev> someone sent me a file called foo.xml.pgp and their public key called foo.asc. i imported their foo.asc into my gpg keyring but when i try to decrypt the file with gpg --decrypt foo.xml.pgp i get an error 'gpg: encrypted with 2048-bit ELG-E key ... decryption failed: secret key not available'. what can i do?
[19:48] <latexer> slb_: I completely understand. That's why i'm not demanding answers, just explaining *my* situation and hoping someone can help.
[19:48] <NicDumZ> latexer, did you ADD the lines to sources.list, or did you changed "gutsy" to "feisty"?
[19:48] <carpii_> Arcsighter, you need to add rules into iptables PREROUTING chain
[19:48] <latexer> NicDumZ: I tried both approaches.
[19:48] <carpii_> just google for iptables port forwarding, im sure theres tutes
[19:48] <latexer> NicDumZ: if I *changed* them, then it failed in a different way.
[19:49] <Photoguy> Can somebody please look at my problem here?   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1058051   Thanks!
[19:49] <NicDumZ> latexer, what happens precisely?
[19:49] <latexer> NicDumZ: let me try again to get the exact error for you.
[19:49] <ArcSighter> Carpii thanks
[19:49] <quibbler> churl: I take it the update manager is not getting answers from some of the repros..maybe try changing the server in software sourses
[19:50] <kriss3d> noo just formated my ubuntu install via wubi.. and now my pr0n is gone
[19:51] <kolvl> what's your favourite song?
[19:52] <Eutychus> i can find the md5 hash posted for 8.02.1 LTS but not for the 804.2. where can i find a list of the hash for the 8.04.2 LTS support?
[19:52] <incorrect> is there a meta package to get more than just build-essential?
[19:53] <therealnanotube> incorrect: depends on what you want to get...
[19:53] <judgen> is it possible to do this with the gnome-panel: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=2&id=31128&file1=31128-1.jpg&file2=31128-2.jpg&file3=31128-3.jpg&name=Gentle+Gnome+mockup
[19:53] <necko> jhkj
[19:53] <necko> hi
[19:53] <necko> any one there
[19:53] <kriss3d> yea
[19:54] <regeya> absolutely not necko, nobody is here.
[19:54] <regeya> it's rude to tap on the aquarium.
[19:54] <necko> i'm necko
[19:54] <regeya> hello kitty
[19:54] <latexer> NicDumZ: ok, so *changing* the entries to point to old-releases.ubuntu.com, it successfully checks for new updates, shows the "Upgrade to 7.10' item, and start upgrading. During the actual upgrade process ("Modify the software channels" to be exact) it warns 'No valid mirror found'
[19:54] <incorrect> therealnanotube, i was just looking to see what meta packages there are
[19:54] <latexer> NicDumZ: with the options to rewrite the source.list file anyway, or click 'no' to cancel.
[19:54] <kriss3d> anyone know how to patch wifi drivers in ubuntu ?
[19:55] <regeya> !ask | necko
[19:55] <kriss3d> it seems i cant get to patch the mac802 part .. gives errors
[19:55] <iyo03> hi
[19:55] <quibbler> Eutychus: http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.04.2/MD5SUMS
[19:55] <iyo03> what is this??
[19:55] <latexer> NicDumZ: when I click "Yes", then has an "Error during update" since the gutsy stuff doesn't live on old-releases.ubuntu.com
[19:55] <iyo03> fuck you
[19:55] <regeya> iyo03: !
[19:56] <therealnanotube> incorrect: well, the most famous ones are things like 'ubuntu-desktop' and 'kubuntu-desktop'
[19:56] <NicDumZ> latexer, what about doing this commandline ? I'm really not familiar with  the graphical blahblah
[19:56] <incorrect> therealnanotube, i meant for development
[19:56] <latexer> NicDumZ: via "apt-get dist-upgrade" ?
[19:56] <NicDumZ> latexer, yes, after updating ?
[19:56] <latexer> NicDumZ: can give that a shot (been ages since I did that, on debian)
[19:56] <NicDumZ> =)
[19:56] <latexer> NicDumZ: common gotchyas?
[19:56] <therealnanotube> incorrect: ah well, only one i know of is build-essential. other than that, i just pull what i need as the need arises... :)
[19:57] <subsume> I have eth0:1 showing up in ifconfig but there is no reference to it in my /etc/network/interfaces. What's happenin?
[19:57] <NicDumZ> latexer, didnt get the last line :)
[19:57] <latexer> NicDumZ: common things to watch out for?
[19:57] <meoblast001> hi.... how do i make PCSX work at a slower frame rate?
[19:57] <nhuisman_work> Does anyone know how to send dynamic dns updates so a windows dns server will get the hostname updates for dhcp clients using the new ubuntu network manager?  The old way was to use the dhclient.conf and put a few lines of config in there.  But since that no longer gets read I don't know where to put the info.
[19:57] <NicDumZ> latexer, no, it'll probably give a more precise error message
[19:57] <nhuisman_work> Aside from manually running nsupdate
[19:58] <NicDumZ> latexer, maybe the repo you have on your sources.list are a bit "crowded" now, dunno. let's see
[19:58] <IndyGunFreak> kriss3d: why do you need to patch madwifi?..
[19:58] <nhuisman_work> i can uninstall the network manager
[19:58] <nhuisman_work> but I would prefer not to
[19:59] <nhuisman_work> ideas?
[19:59] <blip-> eeebuntu is here
[19:59] <jafn> hi all
[20:00] <IndyGunFreak> blip-: i don't think it ever left
[20:00] <jafn> can somebody nslookup iaaez.dnsalias.com for me please?
[20:00] <jointer> hi, i need help with CRDA in Jaunty - kernel 2.6.28 - i need to change regdom and after some googling i have been unable to do so
[20:00] <jafn> and then telnet iaaez.dnsalias.com 22
[20:00] <BassKozz> if I am logged onto a remote server via SSH how can I pull down a file on that server to my local computer?
[20:00] <jamil> elo
[20:00] <triptik> hi all!
[20:01] <NicDumZ> BassKozz, log off, and use scp instead of ssh
[20:01] <NicDumZ> BassKozz, man scp for more details
[20:01] <triptik> any of you do you know how can I read blu ray discs in ubuntu 8.10?
[20:01] <BassKozz> ok, so there is no way to get the file while logged on via SSH
[20:01] <Topsun> no
[20:01] <BassKozz> NicDumZ: Thanx BTW
[20:01] <latexer> NicDumZ: i think i'll try seeing if the "use the alternate CD" approach works before commiting to a hands on dist-upgrade.
[20:01] <BassKozz> triptik: not possible
[20:01] <latexer> NicDumZ: will try that next though, thanks for the help.
[20:02] <Eutychus> quibbler: thanx. :)
[20:02] <IndyGunFreak> kriss3d: is there a particular reason you're patching madwifi?
[20:02] <BassKozz> triptik: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[20:02] <triptik> ok... thanks!
[20:02] <NicDumZ> latexer, use the alternate CD? the liveCD ? the gutsy CD ?
[20:02] <jamil> greeter application appears crashing ?
[20:02] <axelpaxel> I have a problem with Opera, it freezes all the time, especially when opening things in seperate tabs. Any advice?
[20:02] <NicDumZ> BassKozz, erm, not that I know, unless you scp from the target to the source
[20:02] <latexer> NicDumZ: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GutsyUpgrades#Upgrading%20using%20the%20alternate%20CD/DVD
[20:02] <lifenova> Hello, can anyone tell me a way to find how a USB port is numbered by the system? Today when I booted I noticed something that said "unable to enumerate USB device on port 1" and am curious of what it is
[20:02] <jafn> so can somebody help me?
[20:02] <latexer> NicDumZ: going off the document there.
[20:02] <tripzero> anyone know how to force-install a certain version of a package from the CLI ?
[20:02] <dixonionthedemon> hello all
[20:03] <BassKozz> NicDumZ: ok thx again :-)
[20:03] <latexer> NicDumZ: to perhaps bypass the "errors during updates off the internet" issue I seem to be having.
[20:03] <tv7497> bazhang: sir little help
[20:03] <dixonionthedemon> issues with second life, anyone know?
[20:03] <dixonionthedemon> cant get on it
[20:03] <NicDumZ> latexer, so wait, you're going to burn a CD for each upgrade ?
[20:03] <Eutychus> have a good day all. :)
[20:04] <whatev> do people have to use gpg in order for me to decrypt their stuff with gpg? or can they use other pgp software?
[20:04] <latexer> NicDumZ: for this upgrade, til at least all the further upgrades all exist on us.archive.ubuntu.com
[20:04] <latexer> NicDumZ: since the fact that the old sytem is on a different mirror than the new one seems to be the source of the network upgrade problem?
[20:04] <latexer> maybe i'm making too much of that difference though.
[20:04] <DJ_HaMsTa> what is dev sr0 ?
[20:05] <DJ_HaMsTa> biffer i/0 error on device sr0, logical block on installation of ubuntu
[20:05] <jamil> greeter application appears crashing ? help please
[20:05] <jamil> "enable accessible login" is unchecked
[20:05] <dixonionthedemon> anyone know how to get a working copy of Second Life fer ubuntu 8.10?
[20:05] <NicDumZ> latexer, http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ contains all the distros back to dapper
[20:05] <jointer> anybody have some knowledge how CRDA in 2.6.28 work? It is a component which restricts available wireless channels.
[20:05] <dixonionthedemon> the one i have isnt working
[20:06] <jamil> greeter application appears crashing ? help please
[20:06] <jamil> "enable accessible login" is unchecked
[20:06] <latexer> NicDumZ: ok, then I'm confused why extra lines need to be added/changes to get to the old feisty updates.
[20:07] <Caesi> Hullo everyone.. Short question: what's the tool called when you drag the cursor e.g. in the upper left corner and get all your workspaces?
[20:07] <NicDumZ> latexer, well you just tell apt to look for gutsy instead of feisty...
[20:07] <latexer> NicDumZ: yeah, I'm quickly realizing I should just try it. (:
[20:07] <kriss3d> caci are you using VM ?
[20:07] <latexer> NicDumZ: here goes nothing.
[20:07] <tv7497> guys i need to change the icon of my terminal the new theme with paper looks awesome except the terminal icon i have an i con could you guys help me how to replace the icon i have with that of the existing one http://122.167.74.26  this would give you a better idea the screenshot.png
[20:08] <jointer> nobody have wireless card and kernel 2.6.28?
[20:09] <therealnanotube> tv7497: cool looking theme, where did you get it?
[20:09] <tv7497> therealnanotube: made it sir
[20:09] <therealnanotube> tv7497: to change that icon, go to system->preferences->main menu, and you can find that shortcut and change the icon
[20:09] <tripzero> jointer: i doubt that many ubuntu users compile their own kernel
[20:09] <therealnanotube> tv7497: awesome :) have you posted it anywhere (like on gnome-look)?
[20:09] <Quack[stinkpad]> help, my ipod is read only in ubuntu :(
[20:09] <Irishman2020> I had a serious crash while trying to upgrade from 8.0.4 to 8.10....
[20:10] <Jack_Sparrow> !ipod
[20:10] <ronzo> hello, putting ubuntu on my eee...i have slimmed it down, but i still only have around a gig of memory left (of the 4 gigs) how else can i slim it down?
[20:10] <tripzero> Quack[stinkpad]: what format is it? HTFS? Fat32 ?
[20:10] <jointer> tripzero: yes, but i just upgraded to 9.04 :)
[20:10] <tv7497> therealnanotube: no sir should i ? its simple sir ubuntu dust theme with paper icon with murrine gtk engine
[20:10] <Quack[stinkpad]> FAT32
[20:10] <Quack[stinkpad]> it worked fine a while ago
[20:10] <Quack[stinkpad]> but suddenly it stopped working
[20:11] <tripzero> jointer: oh, that explains why you're on a newer kernel then eh :)
[20:11] <Quack[stinkpad]> even though i can still transfer files in windows
[20:11] <Jack_Sparrow> Irishman2020 That is more often from user  modified sources being in your sources list during the upgrade
[20:11] <therealnanotube> tv7497: if it looks cool... might as well post it somewhere for other people's enjoyment. :) up to you if you want to or not, of course.
[20:11] <Irishman2020> Jack_Sparrow: I turned off all my sources but the main 2 when I upgraded
[20:11] <tripzero> Quak[stinkpad]: what are you using to transfer files?
[20:11] <Quack[stinkpad]> i'm just opening it in nautilus
[20:12] <Jack_Sparrow> Irishman2020 But you had obviously installed things from them that were not comapt. with the upgraded versions
[20:12] <Quack[stinkpad]> it is a rockboxed ipod, but it doesn't work even when i load it with apple's os
[20:12] <jointer> tripzero: but the problem was also with .27 - my wireless card have only 11 channels, but in .24 (8.04) it was fine, all 13 channels
[20:12] <Irishman2020> I finnaly got my system to boot to the session login, but when I login, nothing loads but the background.
[20:12] <tripzero> jointer: what wireless card?
[20:12] <tv7497> therealnanotube: will certainly sir but how do i do it i have no idea and in main menu how do i change the icon of the terminal sir ?
[20:12] <tsakr> anyone have a recommendation for a bot that posts irc logs automatically to a website?
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> tsakr Why do we need yet another one
[20:13] <wots> hi
[20:13] <therealnanotube> tv7497: select the terminal item, and click the "properties" button. there, you can click on the icon, and it will let you select another.
[20:13] <kriss3d> hi
[20:13] <tsakr> Jack_Sparrow, I need one for my channel
[20:13] <tsakr> :)
[20:13] <Irishman2020> Ok, so I had packages that where not compatible with 8.10, what can I do now? I'm stuck with having to run things by doing altF2 to get things to run
[20:13] <wots> does anybody know howto send a email with a shellscript?
[20:13] <tv7497> therealnanotube: got it sir thanks sir
[20:13] <sholsinger> WHOA! I just noticed how when you open Pidgen, Gnome's logout button shows options for status. That ROCKS!
[20:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !logs
[20:13] <hatter243> wots, mail -s "subject here" <to@email.address>
[20:13] <failers> Irishman2020: are you sure your panel isnt just removed?
[20:13] <BlueEagl1> ronzo: The biggest memory hog is the windowmanager so if you want a real small footprint openbox or icewm are recomended though none are officially supported afaik.
[20:13] <wots> thx @ hatter243
[20:14] <therealnanotube> tv7497: no problem... and what's with all the "sir"s? :) i'm just a regular dude like you, hanging out on the channel :)
[20:14] <GeffIsLegend> hi everyone
[20:14] <tsakr> Jack_Sparrow: I want to know how to do this
[20:14] <jointer> tripzero: iwl3945, it should take its "regdomain" from EEPROM or via CRDA module (database of channels allowed in countries) but for some reason i am having still US channels, even if i try to force it via cfg80211 parameter
[20:14] <GeffIsLegend> anyone able to help me with some issues and questions i have?
[20:14] <Irishman2020> I cant right click to get any menus.  I got xfce to allow me to do "altf2", gnome will not allow me to perform that command
[20:14] <tsakr> Jack_Sparrow: an eggie tcl script, or something
[20:14] <therealnanotube> sholsinger: i just noticed that some timeago myself. that was neat. :)
[20:14] <tv7497> therealnanotube: cool then ! well most of here are wizards so little respect :D
[20:14] <NicDumZ> GeffIsLegend, just ask ^
[20:14] <ronzo> BlueEagle, aight, ty
[20:14] <Jack_Sparrow> tsakr It isnt a ubuntu support issue.. there are other sources of info
[20:14] <tsakr> like where?
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> tsakr #Ubuntu-offtopic
[20:15] <failers> Irishman2020: well you could try something like apt-get reinstall gnome
[20:15] <failers> or something like that
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> !!bots
[20:15] <failers> :P
[20:15] <GeffIsLegend> well i tried the dual boot of Ubuntu, and i want to full install, But when i have ubuntu up and i start up the "install" exe on the desktop i get to step 4 of 7 and i dont know what to do from that
[20:15] <sholsinger> therealnanotube: Yeah, lots of interface upgrades went into 8.10. :) Unfortunately lots of drivers were broken with the 2.6.27 kernel...
[20:15] <DJ_HaMsTa> how many GB should i add as swap for a new ubuntu installation ?
[20:15] <Jack_Sparrow> GeffIsLegend that is the partitioning section
[20:16] <therealnanotube> hrm yea, like the eyetoy (ps2 webcam) driver, it seems.
[20:16] <therealnanotube> !swap
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa no more than 4
[20:16] <tripzero> jointer: i don't know... :/  I had issues with wireless on my laptop in 8.10+ so I downgraded to 8.04 when everything was working...
[20:16] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay, What would i have to do to fully install Ubuntu from that?
[20:16] <TheEdge_> can i install windows xp on my computer but still want to have ubuntu on..  or should i install windows first and then ubuntu
[20:16] <failers> Jack_Sparrow: but i have 10gb is that bad :o?
[20:16] <tripzero> that doesn't really solve the problem though...
[20:16] <therealnanotube> DJ_HaMsTa: read that swapfaq :)
[20:16] <DJ_HaMsTa> ty
[20:16] <DJ_HaMsTa> il just add 4 lol
[20:16] <Jack_Sparrow> GeffIsLegend what options do you see, there should be one to use the entire disk
[20:16] <sholsinger> therealnanotube: Yeah, my old Logitech Quickcam used to work in 8.04 its no longer recognized.
[20:17] <nickrud_> TheEdge_, windows first, then ubuntu definitely
[20:17] <DJ_HaMsTa> i know what swap is, just wanted to know what the standard was
[20:17] <therealnanotube> failers: not /bad/, but you are wasting hd space.
[20:17] <Irishman2020> failers: problem is I cant get networking to work again
[20:17] <nickrud_> TheEdge_, give windows the first partition on the first drive for your own sanity
[20:17] <therealnanotube> DJ_HaMsTa: the faq also would have recommendations on size
[20:17] <GeffIsLegend> no, it apears and the selection box is completely blank
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa double ram up to 4 gigs..
[20:17] <failers> therealnanotube:  well got 600gb so 5 gb here and there ^^
[20:17] <sholsinger> therealnanotube: Think I need any SWAP partition if i've got 8GB of RAM?
[20:17] <vigo> Can I install Ubuntu 8.10 and Ubuntu 8.04 on the same drive?
[20:17] <tsakr> Jack_Sparrow: i need to download one simialr man
[20:17] <tripzero> sholsinger: mine also.  It appears that web cams are an issue in 8.10
[20:17] <Jack_Sparrow> GeffIsLegend so there are no available selections that are not greyed out?
[20:18] <failers> Irishman2020: just reinstall whole ubuntu then :/ ?
[20:18] <nickrud_> vigo, yes. You can choose which to boot from grub
[20:18] <TheEdge_> okay.. :(   running ubuntu now.. just hope that i could install xp
[20:18] <Jampiter> Hi
[20:18] <failers> Irishman2020: or add the cdrom as repository and then do apt-get reinstall gnome
[20:18] <nickrud_> !grub | TheEdge_ you can
[20:18] <GeffIsLegend> no, i didnt see any, im on my windows ATM, Should i get on Ubuntu to help this a little more?
[20:18] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to append a line to all files in a directory and its subdirectories (i.e. recursively). The " echo this is a test >> * " command doesn't work. Where am I going wrong?
[20:18] <therealnanotube> DJ_HaMsTa: generally... what Jack_Sparrow says is sensible... but depends on your usage pattern. if you have 4g of ram, and never use it up, you could just throw in a 1g swap for 'just in case' and be ok. to be able to hibernate, need at least as much swap as ram, though.
[20:19] <therealnanotube> sholsinger: probably not... but it never hurts to put in a little one, for "just in case".
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> nickrud_ Got a sec for a PM
[20:19] <Jampiter> I have just hooked my 1280x800 laptop up to a 1680x1050 monitor. The screen is a box in the top left hand corner. The screen resolution dialouge does not list the right size. How can I remedy this?
[20:19] <jointer> tripzero: well, this driver should be prepared for use of CRDA (the database), see http://www.linux-archive.org/archlinux-development/221574-libnl-1-1-1-iw-0-9-7-1-crda-0-9-5-1-a.html - i cannot find this configuration file in Ubuntu
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa how big is  your drive
[20:19] <therealnanotube> sholsinger: 8gb is nice. :)
[20:19] <Irishman2020> what is the name of the network config gui app?
[20:19] <DJ_HaMsTa> 320 GB
[20:19] <DJ_HaMsTa> 3GB ram
[20:19] <DJ_HaMsTa> its a laptop
[20:19] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa so 4 or even 8 gigs wont be missed
[20:19] <GeffIsLegend> no, i didnt see any, im on my windows ATM, Should i get on Ubuntu to help this a little more?
[20:19] <vigo> nickrud: Ok, thank you,,next Q? 8.10 is installed, and windows XP,,(soon to be gone, will the 8.04 ovewrite/format that Windows part?
[20:20] <therealnanotube> failers: hehe, well, if you have hd space to spare... it doesn't much matter. :)
[20:20] <tv7497> therealnanotube: thanks dude its working for the menu bar but what about awm ???  its the same take a look http://122.167.74.26
[20:20] <tv7497> therealnanotube: screenshot1.png
[20:20] <nickrud_> Jack_Sparrow, sure
[20:20] <Jack_Sparrow> therealnanotube Some of us have way more than we would ever need
[20:21] <shambada> p
[20:21] <DJ_HaMsTa> i manualy created 3 partitions one 20GB primary ext3 for /  one /boot of 200mb of ext3 and 4GB of swap, is this correct ?
[20:21] <TheEdge_> thanks  for the help
[20:21] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to append a line to all files in a directory and its subdirectories (i.e. recursively). The " echo this is a test >> * " command doesn't work. Where am I going wrong?
[20:21] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa one sec
[20:22] <GeffIsLegend> is there a way to install ubuntu without the cd, and by install i mean a full installation so i wont have windows anymore
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa not my choice.. no
[20:22] <DJ_HaMsTa> what would you choose ?
[20:22] <therealnanotube> tv7497: sorry, never used that dock thing, so don't know
[20:22] <Jampiter> Anyone?
[20:22] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa one sec
[20:22] <IndyGunFreak> GeffIsLegend: having windows doesn't matter, youc an still intall from a CD.
[20:22] <tv7497> therealnanotube: okie no probs thanks for the help
[20:22] <therealnanotube> Jack_Sparrow: hehe lucky you. :)
[20:22] <vigo> GeffisLegend, I think the WUBI can do that,,let me check
[20:22] <DJ_HaMsTa> i am going to dual boot with xp, xp has 160GB and will dual boot
[20:23] <Ikan> Hi guys, whenever I type I guess I hit my touchpad and the text I'm writing is going all awry. Is there anyway to disable the touchpad when I'm in the middle of typing something?
[20:23] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay, because i dont have any blank cd's to use, and all my blank cd's  are only 700mbs so i dont think thats enough room, right?
[20:23] <gafir777> everytime i try to go to phpmyadmin: http://127.0.0.1/phpmyadmin I get a popup saying : You have chosen to open  ---- which is a PHTML file What should Firefox do with this file? I've tried to reinstall phpmyadmin several times, but it doesn't change anything, thanks
[20:23] <emcpn> gggj
[20:23] <IndyGunFreak> vigo: i doubt wubi can delete Windows, since it runs inside of windows.
[20:24] <emcpn> hello
[20:24] <aar> Ikan, http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/09/20/disable-touchpad-temporarily-when-typing/
[20:24] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: You should be fine with 700mb CDrs, thats what I use. Just make sure you download the CD iso and not a DVD iso.
[20:24] <asteroid> hello
[20:24] <Irishman2020> Simple question again: what can i put in the "run" box to get a gui network manager?
[20:24] <IndyGunFreak> GeffIsLegend: 700 should be enough.. but if you have no blank CDs, can your PC boot a thumb drive, and do you have a 1gig thumb drive available?
[20:24] <failers> GeffIsLegend: you could use a usb stick if your bios support it and if you got one :P
[20:24] <asteroid> what about networkmanager and gprs/gsm connection, via usb or bluetooth ? is there a doc somewhere ?
[20:25] <asteroid> Irishman2020, gnome-network ?
[20:25] <Jack_Sparrow> DJ_HaMsTa would create 20 ntfs an extended of 300,  Logical 60 for /, logical 60 for /home,  logical 60 for/data  plus a swap
[20:25] <wick2o> hello, anyone know of a howto for setting up a ubuntu print server for printers connected directly to the network via ip address? All the docs I'm finding only talk about being a print server for printers directly attached to the machine
[20:26] <FloodBot1> NOTICE - If you couldn't speak to the channel during the past minutes, please try again now.
[20:26] <aar> Irishman2020, in KDE knetworkmanager
[20:26] <aar> Hi, I'm trying to append a line to all files in a directory and its subdirectories (i.e. recursively). The " echo this is a test >> * " command doesn't work. Where am I going wrong?
[20:26] <Irishman2020> what about xfce aar?
[20:27] <asteroid> wick2o, it's a simple feature of cups, no particular thing to do. Connect to http://localhost:631, and tick the box "share printer"
[20:27] <Jack_Sparrow> !register
[20:27] <aar> Irishman2020, I wouldn't know. I don't use xfce, sorry.
[20:27] <Irishman2020> np... stupid crashing updater
[20:27] <wick2o> asteroid: that makes no sense
[20:27] <asteroid> aar, Irishman2020 there is no network manager in xfce
[20:28] <bdelin88> can someone help me with this error output? I am trying to install "bandwidthd" and it says something about missing LSB style header or something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/112949/
[20:28] <wick2o> i assume by localhost you mean the remove ip address of the printer
[20:28] <aar> Irishman2020, this might help: http://linux.derkeiler.com/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2008-01/msg01354.html
[20:28] <Irishman2020> what can I do then to try to repair my network connection? I cant get anything but 127.0.0.1
[20:28] <prince_jammys> aar: a) globs don't expand recursively, b) you'd still need a loop even if they did, or 'tee'
[20:28] <GeffIsLegend> would you guys suggest 8.10 or 8.04 for running World of Warcraft, Which one would it probably run smoother on?
[20:28] <meyou> Irishman2020: you're probably looking at the wrong connection
[20:28] <asteroid> wick2o, cups is the _printer SERVER_ (cupsd). It is administrable via http://localhost:631, a webface.
[20:28] <wick2o> hurm, think i found wdhat i was looking for on the CUPS website
[20:28] <meyou> lo is the loopback connection
[20:28] <bdelin88> can someone help me with this error output? I am trying to install "bandwidthd" and it says something about missing LSB style header or something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/112949/
[20:29] <jointer> how can i set enviroment variable in ubuntu?
[20:29] <meyou> Irishman2020: ifconfig /all do you see any interfaces besdies lo?
[20:29] <red_> k to life?
[20:29] <nickrud_> GeffIsLegend, I've run it under both, saw no diff
[20:29] <Irishman2020> meyou: I am not on the ubuntu machine.
[20:29] <wick2o> "This help document describes how to discover, configure, and use TCP/IP network printers with CUPS."
[20:29] <aar> prince_jammys, so what would be the solution?
[20:29] <asteroid> well. see you, bye
[20:29] <prince_jammys> aar: find, probably
[20:29] <vigo> GeffisLegend: My bad, WUBI is dependent on the win win boot.ini, I am tossing winders out also...so am looking at forums and stuff and asking here where people are nice and helpful.
[20:29] <wick2o> i was just googling the wrong terms (cups wasnt one of them) thats asteroid
[20:29] <GNUtoo> hello, how do I get the UUID of a raid array?
[20:29] <aar> prince_jammys, could you suggest the syntax?
[20:30] <prince_jammys> aar: find /top/level/dir -type f -exec bash -c 'echo "hey" >> "$1"' _ {} \;
[20:30] <bdelin88> can someone help me with this error output? I am trying to install "bandwidthd" and it says something about missing LSB style header or something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/112949/
[20:30] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay, now about my music, documents and such, that i want to not lose, how would i transfer those from windows to ubuntu? or when i do the cd install, will it already give me the option?
[20:30] <aar> prince_jammys, i'll give that a go, thanks
[20:30] <prince_jammys> aar: careful, do it in a test dir
[20:30] <aar> prince_jammys, yea
[20:30] <vigo> GeffisLegend: Back them up to CD-r or whatever,
[20:30] <ChronosZA> GeffIsLegend: intrepid gave me the option to copy it all over for me. and did a good job of it too. except for my email.
[20:30] <_VIM_> !yay | vigo (tossing windows out forever? in that case...)
[20:31] <IndyGunFreak> GeffIsLegend: well, i would definitely make sure you have a backup.. but how I did it, i partitioned my drive into two different drives.. moved all data to the blank partition, then installed Ubuntu to the partition that had windows (assuming you don't intend to dual boot)
[20:31] <sampbar> hi all
[20:31] <GNUtoo> I realy need to know it as mdadm.conf isn't parsed correctly and the /dev/md1 device is not created
[20:31] <tv7497> thanks for the help guys
[20:31] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: It would depend on whether your video card driver works properly and supports acceleration. (for WoW)
[20:31] <vigo> Yippeeee! ubutto smiled at me
[20:31] <bdelin88> can someone help me with this error output? I am trying to install "bandwidthd" and it says something about missing LSB style header or something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/112949/
[20:31] <GeffIsLegend> oh snap, i would have to learn how to do that, with the partitions because i just recently started trying to use Ubuntu
[20:32] <vigo> Ok...installing 8.04 over that windows part, PARTI!
[20:32] <vigo> Thank you all for the help.
[20:32] <mhall119> anybody know how to swap out USplash themes on a LiveCD image?
[20:32] <ChronosZA> GeffIsLegend: i would dual-boot until you are comfortable with ubuntu, unless u have another windows pc to do anything urgent on. you dont want to find yourself getting stressed out with something that needs to be done urgently and u cant, it will only turn you against it.
[20:33] <bdelin88> I am trying to install "bandwidthd" and it says something about missing LSB style header or something? http://paste.ubuntu.com/112949/
[20:33] <Jack_Sparrow> GeffIsLegend Sorry, I was busy, did you need me to go over something
[20:33] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay, good point, i understand
[20:33] <aar> prince_jammys, works perfectly. thanks
[20:33] <GeffIsLegend> oh no thanks Jack_Sparrow, I think im going to stick with dual booting for now, then when i learn about ubuntu more ill do a full install
[20:34] <prince_jammys> aar: cool
[20:34] <IndyGunFreak> GeffIsLegend: thats really the best thing to do.. if there's any doubt at all.
[20:34] <Jack_Sparrow> GeffIsLegend I still dual boot.. always have..
[20:34] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay, but how about the space issue for me while running ubuntu
[20:34] <GeffIsLegend> it says i only have 1.4g of free space, is there a way i can make it larger?
[20:35] <Guest7470> anyone know how to make World Of Warcraft work on ubuntu 8.10
[20:35] <|HSO|SadiQ> can anyone tell me why when I play Urban Terror it logs everything that happens in the game in my .xsession-errors file???
[20:35] <fosco_> GeffIsLegend: sudo aptitude clean
[20:35] <tripzero> Guest7470: there are lots of howto's on the internets.  If you have an nvidia card and the latest wine, it should just work for you
[20:36] <GeffIsLegend> is that a program? should i download it on my windows or ubuntu?
[20:36] <fosco_> GeffIsLegend: it is an ubuntu command
[20:36] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: That is a shell command to be run in a terminal window.
[20:36] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay i see
[20:36] <Irishman2020> !ipv6 factoid
[20:36] <Kartagis> kernel: [428534.974635] type=1503 audit(1233589389.389:129): operation="inode_permission" requested_mask="::r" denied_mask="::r" fsuid=113 name="/proc/5243/net/if_inet6" pid=5244 profile="/usr/sbin/named" <--- should this worry me?
[20:37] <Irishman2020> !ipv6
[20:37] <Cpudan80> !ipv6
[20:37] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: sudo is a program that temporarily elevates your privileges to "root" level (administrator).
[20:37] <GeffIsLegend> im going to go ahead and restart to run this on ubuntu now, ill be right back fellas, dont go anywhere ^^
[20:37] <Jakal> Can anyone give me some hints on how i can get my Tv-out working on my ati card?
[20:37] <mhall119> Jakal: S-video?
[20:38] <Jakal> yup
[20:38] <ChronosZA> okay i think thunderbird is trying to kill me
[20:38] <mhall119> Jakal: I had to use some xrandr command to turn on my s-video port
[20:38] <ygor> Hello guys...ive lost a important folder on a usb disk... can anyone tell me some softwares to try to restore this files and folders that ive lost? thx!
[20:38] <gafir777> hello, when I try to go to http://localhost, my browser asks me whether I want to "open" the index.php instead of interpreting it, what's wrong with my apache2? I've tried to install/uninstall many times but it does not change anything. thanks
[20:38] <Jakal> xrandr ? ok thanks. ill looks around.
[20:39] <Panoptic> Hello guys, I have a question! Decibel music player sends "now playing" information to a text file, which is the easiest way to get that information to the clipboard?
[20:39] <Ikan> Can anyone help me? I tried follow some instructions on some link someone gave me to disable my touchpad when typing, but when I booted ubuntu back up it just goes to a black screen with a command prompt? Is there anyway to fix this at all?
[20:39] <mhall119> gafir777: did you install mod_php?
[20:39] <gafir777> mhall119: How do you install this? Is this in the synaptic package manager?
[20:40] <mhall119> should be
[20:40] <hpk> hi
[20:40] <hpk> german ?
[20:40] <mhall119> gafir777: you should get it when you install php5
[20:40] <ygor> Hello guys...ive lost a important folder on a usb disk... can anyone tell me some softwares to try to restore this files and folders that ive lost? thx!
[20:40] <gafir777> Oh, php5 is not installed
[20:40] <gafir777> haha
[20:41] <mithraic> Just installed my new nvidia card, basically works well. But every few minutes, I get a few seconds of blanking.
[20:41] <Ikan> Can anyone help me out?
[20:41] <mhall119> ygor: first DD the device to a file
[20:41] <mithraic> Is this a known issue?
[20:41] <gafir777> mhall119: maybe I'll get better results ONCE I have php :D
[20:41] <mhall119> gafir777: can't get worse
[20:41] <quibbler> !de
[20:41] <gafir777> i have to restart, see you, thanks mhall119
[20:41] <LanUser> I compiled my own kernel and now seem to be without any rtc support, is rtc-cmos the standard module to enable for rtc device support?
[20:41] <mhall119> no prob
[20:41] <ygor> mhall119: i dont know whats that...
[20:41] <mhall119> !dd
[20:42] <mhall119> ygor: dd is a low-level copying program
[20:42] <Ikan> Can anyone help me? I tried follow some instructions on some link someone gave me to disable my touchpad when typing, but when I booted ubuntu back up it just goes to a black screen with a command prompt? Is there anyway to fix this at all?
[20:42] <sosnix> czesc
[20:42] <sosnix> Hi
[20:42] <mhall119> ygor: you want to do something like this: "dd /dev/$yourdrive > ~/yourdrive
[20:43] <aar> Ikan, cd into your /etc/X11/ directory and try to find a backup copy of xorg.conf. If it's there, rename it to xorg.conf
[20:43] <ygor> mhall119: i dont know what im supposed to do...i downloaded a soft named bacula...but i really need help to try to restore my folder...
[20:43] <gafir777> mhall119: still the same for my problem, after installing php5
[20:43] <mhall119> that way you get an exact copy of the data on your drive, in the file ~/yourdrive
[20:43] <mhall119> gafir777: did you restart apache?
[20:43] <gafir777> i restarted my computer
[20:43] <ygor> mhall119: well its a 200gb usb disk
[20:43] <Yellow_dog> Hi
[20:44] <commander_> hey guys
[20:44] <commander_> yellow dog whaat's up?
[20:44] <scott_ino> hello
[20:44] <mhall119> gafir777: install libapache2-mod-php5
[20:44] <jointer> tripzero: solved (sort of)
[20:44] <mhall119> ygor: oh
[20:44] <rakudave> Ikan: There is an app called "touchfreeze" which does the job.
[20:44] <mhall119> never mind then
[20:44] <Yellow_dog> I have update to many different version of kernel on my box
[20:44] <shambada> ciao
[20:44] <scott_ino> I was wondering if anybody could help me resolve slow USB transfer times
[20:44] <gafir777> ok i'll look for that mhall119
[20:44] <sosnix>  Hi
[20:44] <sosnix> i have problem with
[20:44] <sosnix> sqlite
[20:44] <Yellow_dog> how can I erase all old one
[20:44] <mhall119> ygor: what filesystem does it use?
[20:44] <sosnix> how i can import file to slite ?
[20:45] <sosnix> sqlite*
[20:45] <gafir777> mhall119: it was install, i'm attempting to "reinstall"
[20:45] <mhall119> ygor: also, remount it as read only right away
[20:45] <ygor> mhall119: haha...so theres no way? i mean, accidentaly i del my folder on my usb disk...its a fat32..
[20:45] <quibbler> !enter | sosnix
[20:45] <Ikan> Thanks, Rakudave, but I'm still trapped on that blackscreen and can't do anything
[20:45] <aar> Ikan, cd into your /etc/X11/ directory and try to find a backup copy of xorg.conf. If it's there, rename it to xorg.conf
[20:45] <gafir777> mhall119: no change :(
[20:45] <mhall119> ygor: you'll need to find some kind of fat32 "undelete" program, I don't know of any for Linux
[20:45] <rakudave> Ikan: As for the black screen, try undoing the changes you allied in reverse order and, as arr said, try using the xorg.conf backup
[20:45] <mhall119> gafir777: can you dpkg-reconfigure apache2?
[20:45] <rakudave> *applied
[20:46] <ygor> mhall119: ok...
[20:46] <Yellow_dog> I want to erase all old version kernel on my linux... how to do this properly
[20:46] <latdissem> can someone tell me how to know how much RAM I hacve?
[20:46] <aar> Ikan, if there is no backup, you can reconfigure the settings with this command: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:46] <Yellow_dog> ?
[20:46] <Ikan> ./etc/X11/xorg.conf_synbackup : no such file or directory
[20:46] <gafir777> mhall119: I did sudo dpkg-reconfigure apache2, which returned nothing, then restarted apache2, no changes
[20:46] <mhall119> gafir777: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> root@yellow-dog:/boot# ls
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> abi-2.6.27-11-generic         memtest86+.bin
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> abi-2.6.27-11-server          System.map-2.6.27-11-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> abi-2.6.27-7-generic          System.map-2.6.27-11-server
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> abi-2.6.27-9-generic          System.map-2.6.27-7-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> config-2.6.27-11-generic      System.map-2.6.27-9-generic
[20:47] <FloodBot1> Yellow_dog: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:47] <latdissem> can someone tell me how to know how much RAM I have without shooting down?
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> config-2.6.27-11-server       vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-11-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> config-2.6.27-7-generic       vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-11-server
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> config-2.6.27-9-generic       vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-7-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> grub                          vmcoreinfo-2.6.27-9-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> initrd.img-2.6.27-11-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.27-11-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> initrd.img-2.6.27-11-server   vmlinuz-2.6.27-7-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> initrd.img-2.6.27-7-generic   vmlinuz-2.6.27-9-generic
[20:47] <Yellow_dog> initrd.img-2.6.27-9-generic
[20:47] <latdissem> can someone tell me how to know how much RAM I have without shooting down?
[20:47] <gafir777> mhall119: should I see mod_php in there?
[20:47] <Ikan> Aar, do I use the kernel framebuffer interface or no?
[20:47] <mhall119> gafir777: php5.conf
[20:48] <tripzero> jointer: solved? what did you do?
[20:48] <rakudave> Yellow_dog: please use the pastebin at paste.ubuntu.com
[20:48] <gafir777> mhall119: ok, php5.conf is not in there
[20:48] <gafir777> so somehow it's not used by apache2
[20:48] <gafir777> i'll try to reinstall apache2 again
[20:48] <mhall119> gafir777: ls /etc/apache2/mods-available/
[20:48] <gafir777> mhall119: I get a list, but php5.conf is not among them
[20:48] <aar> Ikan, go with the default settings (the option reccommended by the configuration software).
[20:48] <mhall119> hmmm
[20:48] <mhall119> you sure you have php5 installed?
[20:49] <gafir777> mhall119: I can try to reinstall apache2 again from the synaptic package manager
[20:49] <gafir777> since php5 was not installed when i installed apache
[20:49] <gafir777> i can try
[20:49] <mhall119> I always install php5 after apache
[20:49] <aar> Ikan, effectively, this means typing enter in most prompts throughout the configuratyon process
[20:49] <mhall119> so that shouldn't be the problem
[20:49] <quibbler> !enter
[20:49] <rakudave> Ikan: or boot into recovery mode and select "fix xserver"
[20:49] <gafir777> mhall119: ok
[20:50] <gafir777> mhall119: so how do you add php5.conf to the list?
[20:50] <stickboy> !ppa
[20:50] <Yellow_dog> floodBot1: thx...
[20:51] <mhall119> gafir777: it should be in the mods-available at least, from when it was installed
[20:51] <Unislash> hey guys
[20:51] <Unislash> quick question...
[20:51] <gafir777> mhall119: oh ok, I see it in mod-available
[20:51] <gafir777> php5.conf and php5.load
[20:51] <gafir777> but not in mods-enabled
[20:52] <Yellow_dog> floodBot1: I take a look in my /boot directory an find many different version of the kernel
[20:52] <mhall119> gafir777: sym-link them to mods-enabled and reboot apache
[20:52] <rakudave> Unislash: yeeeeees?
[20:52] <Unislash> i've noticed that when i click and drag my mouse, it takes a split second for it to register the click, thus my selection is skewered
[20:52] <Unislash> :)
[20:52] <gafir777> mhall119: I'll google "sym-link"
[20:52] <gafir777> hehe
[20:52] <mIRC632a> Hi
[20:52] <mhall119> ln -s
[20:52] <mhall119> gafir777: man ln
[20:53] <PiRaSa> selam
[20:53] <Yellow_dog> the laste update don't allow my modem to work so I need do erase it and keep the old one. How can I erase it?
[20:53] <gafir777> ok, looking in the man
[20:53] <rakudave> Unislash: any other graphics-related problems? (lags etc...)
[20:53] <mhall119> gafir777: sudo ln -s /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf
[20:53] <Unislash> nope, nothing
[20:53] <mhall119> then again for php5.loadf
[20:54] <Unislash> no lag... nothing
[20:54] <Unislash> single clicking is fine
[20:54] <gafir777> mahll119: thanks, sounds easier when you write it !
[20:54] <Unislash> it's only click and drag (like selecting text or icons with mouse)
[20:54] <nmlinuz> hello...i installed VirtualBox and seems that i have problem with perimissions on USB devices...anyone help me please? :(
[20:54] <Unislash> i think it has to do with some threshold on when a click-down is interpreted as a click-n-drag
[20:55] <Ikan> The sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg worked and I'm back in logged in regularly, so what I do from here? Use touchfreeze or attempt to the the xorg.conf again?
[20:55] <Unislash> or something like that
[20:55] <gafir777> mhall119: ok they seem to be enabled now, i restart apache
[20:55] <rakudave> Unislash: strange... does this happen every time? you cold try to addjust the "mouse" settings, but other than that... i don't know
[20:55] <Jack_Sparrow> nmlinuz usb requires the one off the web not the one from our repos.
[20:55] <minche> i cant connect my phone
[20:55] <Unislash> yea, it's every time
[20:55] <minche> i mean i cant browse through its contents
[20:55] <gafir777> mhall119: It works! That was a long support you provided me, Thanks for your help
[20:55] <minche> nor it's memory card contents :(
[20:55] <mhall119> no problem gafir777
[20:55] <mhall119> glad I could help
[20:55] <nmlinuz> Jack_Sparrow: what do you mean?
[20:56] <minche> it doesnt even recognize it :/
[20:56] <mIRC632a> i have some probleme to install ubuntu 8.10 on a pc with this hardware: Hd sata 500 Gb
[20:56] <mIRC632a> Hd ide 40 Gb
[20:56] <mIRC632a> Cpu:intel quadcore q9300
[20:56] <mIRC632a> Vga:ati hd 3870
[20:56] <mIRC632a> Mb:pq5
[20:56] <FloodBot1> mIRC632a: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:56] <nmlinuz> Jack_Sparrow: i add a line to fstab but nothing happend :(
[20:56] <Jack_Sparrow> nmlinuz /join vbox or see the virtualbox website
[20:56] <minche> :(
[20:56] <leeping2008> Hi there, how do I check what machines are connected to my DHCP server?
[20:56] <Unislash> like... i can put my cursor right next to an icon on my desktop, then click-n-drag (quickly) in a motion that would normally select said icon, but the delay is too much and the resultant selection is enough to just miss the icon
[20:56] <rakudave> Unislash: you could also reinstall nautilus... no special tweakes applied there though, i suppose
[20:57] <Unislash> i don't think it's a bug; the delay time seems to be constant
[20:57] <KX> Is there a way I can configure a window to not have a decoration (title bar, borders etc.) with metacity or absolutely position it on the screen
[20:57] <rakudave> Unislash: i out of ideas ;-)
[20:57] <aar> Ikan, if editing your xorg.conf messed up your display settings, I'd suggest you try out the touchfreeze application
[20:57] <Unislash> hmmm...
[20:58] <KX> well, relatively position it form where it would normally be maximized
[20:58] <Sa[i]nT> How do I open up port 80 with iptables?
[20:58] <salmon> hey quick question about playing DVD's what codecs do i need to both make the play and use the DVD menu's
[20:58] <Ikan> Alright, Thank you aar and rakudave. I apologize about being so erratic.
[20:58] <thismamacooks200> IRC problem, I keep getting the same error box every few seconds. It creates thousands of message boxes if I don't close them. "Unknown message somename@sbcglobal.net The IRC server received a message it did not understand "
[20:58] <rakudave> Ikan: no problem
[20:58] <aar> Ikan, NP
[20:59] <stickboy> I'm on 8.10 64bit. I just installed Gnome Do, added the sources and the key. But whenever I try to update it, it gets held back. Any ideas why?
[20:59] <Jose> hello!
[21:00] <aar> Sa[i]nT, iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 80 -j ACCEPT
[21:00] <rakudave> stickyboy: probably some library-collisions... look at the package details with synaptics
[21:00] <quibbler> salmon: what are you using now is view dvd's?
[21:00] <aar> Sa[i]nT, and: iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --destination-port 80 -j ACCEPT
[21:01] <sexcopter> hi, can anyone help me with vnc? I have a laptop with 8.10, and a pc with win xp, both on local network. i want to control the win xp pc with my laptop, and installed realvnc server on the windows pc. if i run vinaigre on this laptop, vnc is greyed out, only rdp is available. what do i need to do?
[21:01] <aar> Sa[i]nT, you'iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --destination-port 6881:6999 -j ACCEPT
[21:01] <SlimeyPete> sexcopter: why not just use RDP?
[21:01] <bert_> Hi, I'm at the computerclub right now and I can't get X to start (the liveCD errors) on a VIA card that should work with the OpenChrome driver, ubuntu 7.10 starts fine but 8.04 and 8.10 don't, does anyone here have an idea why this happens ?
[21:02] <aar> Sa[i]nT, sorry, I was going to say: you'll need privileges, so add sudo in front of that
[21:02] <sexcopter> SlimeyPete: I tried that, but it gave some error with "atom" in it... had no idea what that meant
[21:02] <Skeptiker> How do I check which type of driver my webcam is using?
[21:02] <IndyGunFreak> bert_: if its just a live CD, use a alt. install CD and go from there.
[21:02] <IndyGunFreak> !webcam | Skeptiker
[21:02] <sexcopter> SlimeyPete: although it might be i just need to reboot the xp box.. let me try that
[21:02] <pogay> i have problem installing gocr, which seems to demand  libltdl3 (Ubuntustudio 8.10 has libltdl7 ). According to "google" gocr should install fine. Where can be the problem?
[21:03] <SlimeyPete> sexcopter: I suspect that using a client such as krdc or the Gnome equivalent (can't remember what it's called, but I think it's installed by default) for RDP will be your best bet
[21:03] <judgen> where is the settings file for avant saved?
[21:03] <|HSO|SadiQ> can anyone tell me why when I play Urban Terror it logs everything that happens in the game in my .xsession-errors file???
[21:03] <sexcopter> SlimeyPete: gnome-rdp, perhaps?
[21:04] <kansan> i added a printer to my ubuntu hardy desktop.... its a samsung ml-2510... problem is after awhile the printer seems to be disconnected... i.e i send it printer jobs and it doesnt do anything.  restarting my computer works, but only for a little bit... and then again i cant send it print jobs anymore.  i tried a different printer driver from linux printing database too ideas?
[21:05] <xxCody> Hello everyone, im experiencing a problem after installing ubuntu on another machine. Its not picking up any wireless connections. Can someone help please.
[21:05] <filthpig> Hi. There is a little bug that has been bugging me (harrharr) for some time with ubuntu. If you right-click an image in Firefox, and select "Set as desktop background" it just doesn't work. All you get is a small window with a PC-monitor on it (which probably should show the selected img as background, but trying to apply or cancel doesn't do anything.. is this bug fixed with ibex? I'm on hardy..
[21:05] <D3JAVU> a
[21:05] <D3JAVU> HI all
[21:05] <pogay> which is the correct option in apt-get to avoid demanding libs (because I set a symlink to a newer version).
 it works in intrepid for me
[21:06] <Caesi> Hullo everyone.. Short question: what's the tool called when you drag the cursor e.g. in the upper left corner and get all your workspaces?
[21:06] <nickrud_> pogay, you mean install a package without all it's dependencies?
[21:06] <D3JAVU> i delete my xorg cont :( and wont restor original xorg conf how can i make that ???
[21:06] <xxCody> Hello everyone, im experiencing a problem after installing ubuntu on another machine. Its not picking up any wireless connections. Can someone help please.
[21:06] <pogay> nickrud_: yes analogous to dpgk -f -g  package.deb
[21:07] <nickrud_> D3JAVU, sudo dpkg-reconfigure -pcritical xserver-xorg will recreate a default xorg.conf
[21:07] <rakudave> !wireless | xxCody
[21:07] <Templis__> slb_ gone?
[21:07] <xxCody> Thank you i will look into it.
[21:07] <nickrud_> pogay, apt-get doesn't have such a switch; you'd have to create an equiv package for that lib:
[21:07] <pogay> nickrud_:  as I installed iscan
[21:07] <nickrud_> !info equivs | pogay
[21:08] <pogay> thanks nickrud_
[21:08] <marek_> hi, i have ripped my old family vhs but sound is about 2 second behind video, which app can fix it?
[21:08] <synack> i just had a very strange problem with the ubuntu 64 installer locking up while trying to do manual partitions
[21:09] <synack> is this a known problem? i went thru the installer 6 times before finally partitioning w/ partition magic
[21:09] <D3JAVU> i do dhat but its bring me onley 1920 1200 resolution :) how can i ride in xorg.conf the 1280 800 :) or somethink like that
[21:09] <IndyGunFreak> synack: i always manually partition, never a prob.
[21:10] <synack> well i actually just bought a new laptop and used the 32bit version w/ manual partitioning just fine
[21:10] <quibbler> filthpig: thanks ...now i got the bug...i'm also in hardy but i never tried to do that ..just tried and indeed it doesn't work
[21:10] <synack> then i went to 64bit and started having that issue
[21:11] <xxCody> Okay i may have found the problem. With ubuntu not picking up any wireless connections it seems that the hardware drivers it does not list my driver for wireless. it just says wl ad i dont know what that driver is anyways.
[21:11] <Templis__> I had some problems with atheros wireless (I loosed it by turning off and on the wireless network on the tray). I turned off the laptop and removed the batery, rapidly power button with no power, then put back the batery and when logged in toUbuntu, everything was fine..
[21:11] <Templis__> Just don't know, how to enable wpa
[21:12] <Templis__> Oh, found..
[21:12] <lahcim> hmm
[21:12] <Templis__> It just disapeared for a moment..
[21:13] <Jack_Sparrow> !info wpasupplicant
[21:13] <Templis__> I have a stupid wireless card, with which I have to be jentle and should not use functions like turn of and so on in Ubuntu
[21:14] <amerinese> are the package repositories working right now?  seem to have trouble connecting
[21:14] <lahcim> hello
[21:14] <quibbler> filthpig: i have no idea why not...found this bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/hardy/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/206191
[21:14] <oobe> could someone do a ctcp version on me and tell me what it says
[21:14] <Templis__> My wireless card went wrong, maybe power or smtg
[21:14] <synack> interesting...my install just errored out with SQUASHFS errors
[21:14] <Templis__> Now itš ok!
[21:15] <Templis__> it's
[21:15] <Templis__> thank's to slb_ if you see him!
[21:15] <Blackburn> hi all, looking for some bluetooth pan network setup help on hardy.
[21:15] <GeffIsLegend> Hey guys,  im on ubuntu right now, how would i get my music folder onto my ubuntu
[21:15] <Templis__> He was wery helpfull!
[21:15] <erUSUL> GeffIsLegend: from where ?
[21:15] <GeffIsLegend> my windows os
[21:16] <Templis__> do not hibernate win!
[21:16] <oobe> just type this /ctcp oobe VERSION
[21:16] <graingert> GeffIsLegend-> drag and drop to ubuntu
[21:16] <oobe> in chat window
[21:16] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay ill try it really fast , 1minute
[21:17] <luciddr34m3r> For some reason, pressing ctrl + alt + backspace no longer restarts x on my 8.10 box. It may not be related, but I just recently updated from hardy to intrepid (not a clean install), any ideas why the key combo is not restarting x anymore?
[21:18] <Templis__> GeffIsLegend: Mount win partitions! so you will be able to access them! But DO NOT hibernate WIN or you could not access the win partitions and any other data storage device that was connected at that moment!
[21:19] <wolter> hi, i need help on solving this loki installer error "This installation doesn't support glibc-2.0 on Linux / unknown"
[21:19] <wolter> linux32 execution doesn't work
[21:19] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay, can you tell me how to mount the win partition to ubuntu please? im not too knowledgeable about that type of stuff
[21:20] <Templis__> Look at the top! There is PLACES->some hard drives..
[21:20] <rakudave> GeffIsLegend: Fat od NTFS?
[21:20] <rakudave> *or
[21:20] <Templis__> look at all of them to find the real one!
[21:20] <GeffIsLegend> NTFS
[21:20] <Slart> !ntfs | GeffIsLegend
[21:20] <Karti> Hi all, anyone pass on the command to find out your motherboard details...many thanks
[21:21] <Templis__> I believe 8.10 has support for ntfs as default
[21:21] <rakudave> you need a tool called ntfs-config to enable ntsf-support
[21:21] <tomodachi> Karti: dmesg and lspci
[21:21] <tomodachi> vill tell you things about your hardware
[21:21] <dmi3on> hi all
[21:22] <Ainulph> Hey, I was trying out Ultramatix on my new Ubuntu installation and I ran into a problem with Google Earth. It's stuck on EULA and there's a line with <OK>. However, pressing enter or click upon it does nothing T_T
[21:22]  * Templis__ off!
[21:22] <Templis__> Thanks again!
[21:22] <floryn90> hello
[21:22] <Slart> Ainulph: ultramatix?
[21:23] <djones> !ultramatix | Ainulph
[21:23] <Ainulph> Suppose to be the new Automatix
[21:23] <floryn90> i'm new here
[21:23] <Slart> oh my.. you're on your own then, Ainulph
[21:23] <thismamacooks200> I keep getting the same error box every few seconds. It creates thousands of message boxes if I don't close them. "Unknown message silverbullet68@sbcglobal.net The IRC server received a message it did not understand" I was told to report this person to an op
[21:23] <dmi3on> i have problem with vncserver, when i connect to server using thightvnc or ultravnc i get same black screen wtih white dots and big cross instead of mouse how od i solve this ?
[21:23] <floryn90> can you help me with a play video with wmv codec???
[21:23] <Ainulph> Well, thanks for the help :) How should I install it, I've been having a little trouble using the terminal to install.
[21:23] <Slart> Ainulph: automatix (and now ultramatix I suppose) are the source of so many weird problems..
[21:23] <Element9> how can I make ubuntu show info pages?
[21:23] <synack> floryn90: download kaffeine
[21:23] <synack> or vlc palyer
[21:23] <Ainulph> Heh
[21:24] <Ainulph> Ultramatix seems great if it worked right ><
[21:24] <GeffIsLegend> hey guys to download ntfs-config should i be on ubuntu or windows, and i have unbuntu 8.10 so should i download the package for feisty or edgy?
[21:24] <synack> geffislegend: ubuntu comes stock w/ fuse
[21:24] <Slart> Ainulph: so is russian roulette.. as long as you win
[21:24] <quibbler> Ainulph: if you have the medibuntu repros in your source file you can install google earth from synaptic
[21:24] <synack> you shouldnt need any additional tools
[21:24] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay
[21:24] <Slart> Ainulph: isn't google earth available from the repos?
[21:24] <GeffIsLegend> so just use fuse?
[21:25] <synack> just mount the NTFS volume w/ the fuse driver
[21:25] <synack> post up your /etc/fstab
[21:25] <Ainulph> SOrry, I don't know what a repos is, I'm a windows noob :(
[21:25] <wots> yes russian roulette!
[21:25] <wots> ;)
[21:25] <Slart> Ainulph: repos is like large software archives where everything is made for your ubuntu version
[21:25] <Axz> i'm getting follow error on running Google Earth... http://pastebin.com/m680866ec
[21:25] <Slart> Ainulph: it's all tested and supported
[21:25] <Pyuu> Hello all, I'm new to Ubuntu, just had to install it on a PC due to Windows XP counterfeiting by the previous owner. I need help getting exe's to run. I'm fairly adept at using computers... however, as said, I'm new to Ubuntu/Linux. :[
[21:25] <Ainulph> Ah
[21:25] <therealnanotube> !repositories | Ainulph
[21:26] <quibbler> Ainulph: if is a small word with a big meaning...that is why Ultramatix is not advised
[21:26] <Pyuu> Can anyone offer some help?
[21:26] <dmi3on> can some one help me with vncserver pleas, i cant find why do i get black screen when connect to vncserver with out using sudo
[21:26] <Ainulph> :)
[21:26] <josher4> !windows
[21:26] <Blackburn> Pyuu: One sec
[21:26] <therealnanotube> !wine | Pyuu
[21:26] <synack> pyuu: get ahold of wine
[21:26] <Karti> tomodachi: Many thanks
[21:26] <Pyuu> Ahhh, okay, thanks. :]
[21:26] <josher4> !General Chat
[21:26] <Blackburn> pyuu: wine, it may not fix everything though, warning
[21:26] <liveuser> y0
[21:27] <GeffIsLegend> synack how would i go about doing something like that?
[21:27] <Ainulph> I'm going to do some reading, thanks guys.
[21:27] <Mortymer> hey
[21:27] <synack> postbin
[21:27] <tomodachi> Karti: np
[21:27] <pogay> nickrud_: i downloaded gocr----.dev, and installed normally, strange.
[21:27] <Slart> Ainulph: you're welcome
[21:27] <Pyuu> That's fine. As long as it will allow me to do some general gaming; I'm fine with that!
[21:27] <Guest8361> what's up:D
[21:27] <Mortymer> i'm looking for my printer's driver
[21:27] <Guest8361> hehe
[21:27] <Pyuu> Many thanks to those who responded.
[21:27] <Blackburn> pyuu: Freecell etc yes,
[21:27] <Guest8361> i am preparing to resize partition
[21:27] <therealnanotube> Pyuu: for 'general gaming', check out the "games" section of the repositories.
[21:27] <Guest8361> need to install ubuntu
[21:27] <Guest8361> fedora is bad
[21:28] <anno> hi! not sure if a recent apt-get ugprade is to blame but GNU screen acts kind of weird ... although "deflogin" is set to "on" in /etc/screenrc, it doesn't start the shell(s) in login-mode :( "screen -l" doesn't work either ... ~/.profile doesn't get sourced. :(
[21:28] <Blackburn> pyuu: But direct3d etc, not really.
[21:28] <nickrud_> pogay, most likely you have it's lib dependency installed, and you've overridden the lib by linking or putting it earlier in the lib search path. dpkg thinks all is normal
[21:28] <Slart> Mortymer: have you looked at linuxprinting.org?
[21:28] <IntrepidOne> Guest8361: it's different indeed I would not say bad
[21:28] <Mortymer> Slart: Not yet, thanks.
[21:28] <Guest8361> in 1 week i needed to reinstall fedora 6 times...
[21:28] <dmi3on> can some one help me with vncserver pleas, i cant find why do i get black screen when connect to vncserver with out using sudo
[21:28] <GeffIsLegend> synack?
[21:28] <IntrepidOne> Guest8361: OK LMAO IT'S BAD
[21:28] <rakudave> Mortymer: Ubuntu 8.04+ should recognize ~95% of all printers by default.
[21:28] <Guest8361> you see:D
[21:28] <Pyuu> Blackburn: How would I go about playing games such as GunZ:The Duel. I know of people who said that it's possible to run GunZ on Linux.
[21:29] <user_> dmi3on: can you pastebin your exact connection command?
[21:29] <therealnanotube> Guest8361: well... i suspect it was not fedoras fault, but rather a PEBKAC
[21:29] <Guest8361> i need to told you what happened
[21:29] <Guest8361> first i installed it
[21:29] <Guest8361> and than i was having problem with screen
[21:29] <Guest8361> i reinstalled than
[21:29] <Guest8361> than i was runing it about 2 hours
[21:29] <Guest8361> i rebooted
[21:29] <Blackburn> pyuu: very specific, did you try google first?
[21:29] <IntrepidOne> Guest8361:  one line
[21:29] <FloodBot1> Guest8361: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:29] <IntrepidOne> !emter | Guest8361
[21:30] <quibbler> therealnanotube: pebkac??
[21:30] <IntrepidOne> oops enter also
[21:30] <dmi3on> user_, just: vncserver -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24
[21:30] <therealnanotube> quibbler: pebkac: problem exists between keyboard and chair :)
[21:30] <therealnanotube> !pebkac
[21:30] <therealnanotube> heh
[21:30] <user_> dmi3on: thats the server command, whats your client command?
[21:30] <Guest8361> and than screen was blinking,i reinstalled,than all programs stoped working,i reinstalled,than it won't load on start i reinstalled and now problem with internet reinstalled again:D
[21:30] <eross> what's the keyboard scanner tool i can use, to make sure my keyboard keys are working?
[21:31] <Pyuu> Blackburn: Ah, I feel like a hypocrite now. Any time someone asks me a question I respond with a witty "Google is your friend." yet I myself have failed to use it in the situation.
[21:31] <gidna> HI
[21:31] <Mortymer> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112969/
[21:31] <therealnanotube> Pyuu: heh
[21:31] <gidna> why can't I run google earth on ubuntu?
[21:31] <Mortymer> it didn't work
[21:31] <Guest8361> google earth is not supported for linux
[21:31] <GeffIsLegend> my windows partition seems to be mounted already, but i cant find my music folder , anyone want to help me with that ? :(
[21:31] <Mortymer> there are no drivers for linux
[21:31] <quibbler> therealnanotube: ah....i'm old so i don't know the jargon...but that's good...i have a a lot
[21:31] <Mortymer> can we make something with wine?
[21:31] <Guest8361> you can try to to install it with wine...
[21:32] <Blackburn> pyuu: didnt mean to be curt :) Just that it was very specific! Do try wine.
[21:32] <badfish69> how do i set snes9x-gtk to use also instead of OSS?
[21:32] <Mortymer> Guest8361: Ok, I'll try. Thanks.
[21:32] <Slart> gidna: I don't know.. you haven't really told us why.. I'm guessing.. "you don't have the computer turned on" ? was I right?
[21:32] <badfish69> slsa*
[21:32] <therealnanotube> quibbler: yea it's a fun one. :)
[21:32] <badfish69> alsa*
[21:32] <graingert> badfish69-> try padsp
[21:32] <quibbler> therealnanotube: :-)
[21:32] <Guest8361> will ubuntu install himself into unallocated space?
[21:33] <gidna> the main google's earth window appears and then disappears..
[21:33] <Slart> !googleearth
[21:33] <Mortymer> wine gives this error: "could not register Start key"
[21:33] <Pyuu> Blackburn: Will do, and no need to apologize. You called me out on my own hypocrisy without knowing anything personal about me. :p  Should've thought that one through before coming to IRC.  Thanks again for the push in the right direction. Many thanks.
[21:33] <Guest8361> i don't know:D
[21:33] <Slart> gidna: and you get some kind of error?
[21:33] <Guest8361> i am fedora user...
[21:33] <gidna> No
[21:34] <Mortymer> that printer has a vital importance for me, am i turning back to windows again? :(
[21:34] <Slart> gidna: try running google earth from a terminal.... see if you get any error messages that way
[21:34] <Guest8361> going to install ubuntu cya:D
[21:34] <Slart> Mortymer: what did linuxprinting.org say?
[21:35] <gidna> the first time starts and happens what I told u.. the second time bash: /home/gidna/Desktop/Google-googleearth.desktop: Permission denied
[21:35] <GeffIsLegend> hey guys how do i allow Ubuntu to use more of my disk space, im only limited to 1.5g for some reason!
[21:35] <n2diy> What's up with Opera? I see it was in the Repos, and now it isn't?
[21:35] <graingert> GeffIsLegend-> your system needs re-partitions
[21:35] <aaditya> GeffIsLegend: is it because of the way you divided your partitions?
[21:35] <GeffIsLegend> can you help me , and tell me how to do this please?
[21:35] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: I don't think there is an artificial limit.. unless you're using wubi or something
[21:35] <Mortymer> Slart: here you are: http://paste.ubuntu.com/112971/
[21:36] <pogay> nickrud_ yeah, I made a symlink. ocr seems at least executable now, have to check a better document for ocr-scan, as the first result is a empty file.
[21:36] <Slart> Mortymer: no need for pastebin when it's only one line.. but I'm looking
[21:36] <GeffIsLegend> i have 47.7g of free space, but for some reason its only showing up as 1.5
[21:36] <GeffIsLegend> and i only have 2 partitions , the windows, which unbuntu is running off now, and the recovery
[21:37] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: can you pastebin the output of "df -h" ?
[21:37] <Slart> !pastebin | GeffIsLegend
[21:37] <Slart> Mortymer: did you download the driver from the canon website?
[21:37] <gidna> slart what's the soluton?
[21:37] <GeffIsLegend> so type pastebin in the terminal?
[21:38] <Mortymer> Slart: canon's own website provides a linux driver for UFR_II, which is not my model.
[21:38] <Slart> gidna: did you get an error message?
[21:38] <gidna> bash: /home/gidna/Desktop/Google-googleearth.desktop: Permission denied
[21:39] <gidna> this is the erorr message
[21:39] <aaditya> GeffIsLegend: type this in terminal: $ sudo gparted
[21:39] <Slart> Mortymer: hmm.. then it seems it's back to windows if you want to use the printer.. send an angry mail to canon =/
[21:39] <lukinfore> hi
[21:39] <nilres> hi
[21:39] <Slart> gidna: that doesn't look very serious.. that's all you get when you run it from a terminal?
[21:39] <lukinfore> is there a command to determine my current network load - Up/Down?
[21:40] <Slart> lukinfore: nload will give you a nice little graph
[21:40] <nilres> iptraf
[21:40] <gidna> yes it is
[21:40] <nilres> iptraf has no graph but is a nice tool
[21:40] <GeffIsLegend> Slart, How would i show u this pastebin?
[21:40] <Slart> gidna: hmmm.. no idea then, sorry
[21:40] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: you paste the url here
[21:40] <lukinfore> uhm
[21:40] <gidna> at last How can I remove it?
[21:40] <GeffIsLegend> http://paste.ubuntu.com/112972/plain/
[21:40] <GeffIsLegend> there ya go slart
[21:40] <lukinfore> iptraf says i should be root
[21:40] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: thanks
[21:41] <Mortymer> Slart: God, sure I will >:[ Thanks for your contributions.
[21:41] <Slart> lukinfore: run it with sudo in front... "sudo iptraf"
[21:41] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Windows stores "My Documents" in: C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\My Documents\ if you're on Windows XP.
[21:41] <spdaly> Hello all!
[21:41] <aaditya> GeffIsLegend: did you paste something there already?
[21:41] <GeffIsLegend> im currently on vista32 atm
[21:41] <Slart> Mortymer: you're welcome
[21:41] <aaditya> sorry guys, i'm lagging
[21:41] <spdaly> I'm having a problem with vsftpd.  I installed it and config'd it fairly open to test, but I keep getting connection refused errors
[21:41] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Vista uses C:\users\<username>\ for the user directory.
[21:41] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: oh.. you're running wubi?
[21:41] <jimmyscythe> anyone know how I can get better sound quality out of my Soundblaster Live 7.1 card
[21:41] <lukinfore> that is not what i actually need
[21:41] <GeffIsLegend> idk, am i ? hah
[21:42] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: I hope that helps you find your music.
[21:42] <jimmyscythe> I'm using the CA0106 driver and it sounds horrible
[21:42] <lukinfore> i need a coomand for bash script
[21:42] <GeffIsLegend> yeah i managed to find my music
[21:42] <lukinfore> but thanks
[21:42] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Ah :) I caught that one too late, I guess.
[21:42] <GeffIsLegend> i just need more space on ubuntu to use so i can copy it over :[
[21:42] <gidna> Slart How can I remove it?
[21:42] <Slart> gidna: google earth? how did you install it?
[21:43] <gidna> by a .bin file
[21:43] <rainmanp7> Is there a linux wallpaper upload website ?
[21:43] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: I've never used wubi so wouldn't really know where to start.. isn't there a manual or some documentation about it?
[21:43] <Slart> rainmanp7: gnome-look.org?
[21:43] <djones> !art | rainmanp7
[21:43] <GeffIsLegend> to be honest with you, i dont even know what wubi is :-/ laaame of me
[21:43] <Ax3> I'm in need of some assistance, somewhat a beginner, I've created a user, but for some reason it can see the contents of other user's directories in /home, how do I sort this out?
[21:43] <rainmanp7> Slart thanx :)
[21:43] <Ax3> (i did this via CLI)
[21:43] <Baatti> ok, I have Heron loaded onto an old desktop, but its been over a year since I've used it on that computer, and I don't remember my admin password, how do I resolve this issue?
[21:44] <Slart> GeffIsLegend: wubi is a "run ubuntu on your windows machine without messing it up"-application
[21:44] <sholsinger> Why does his hard drive mount at /cdrom/ ?
[21:44] <GeffIsLegend> oh hah
[21:44] <erUSUL> Ax3: tight the "other user's directory" permissions
[21:44] <Slart> rainmanp7: you're welcome
[21:44] <lukinfore> update
[21:44] <lukinfore> nobody knows?
[21:44] <GeffIsLegend> well i booted from a disk that i burned
[21:44] <Slart> lukinfore: what do you want to do? get your current up speed?
[21:44] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: I know, but it looks like your hard drive was mounted in the '/cdrom' directory
[21:45] <lukinfore> yea, and down
[21:45] <lukinfore> i can use this
[21:45] <lukinfore> http://pastebin.com/m1b11fd87
[21:45] <elliott> exit
[21:45] <elliott> or not
[21:45] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger: is that bad? this confuses me very much lol
[21:45] <lukinfore> but i think some ugly way
[21:45] <Ax3> erUSUL, how?
[21:45] <erUSUL> !permissions | Ax3
[21:46] <erUSUL> Ax3: you can do it with nautilus. rigt click on the home folder choose properties go to the permission tab
[21:46] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: not... bad, just weird. I do show 48Gb of "free space"
[21:46] <pogay> I uses xsane - the pogramm sees two "scanners" the first is the internal cam.  Can suppress this selection somewhere, or at least change the order of the devices?
[21:46] <Baatti> how can I recover my admin password?
[21:46] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: The problem is, you have resize the partition Windows is on. Gparted *can* do that if I am not mistaken.
[21:46] <graingert> Baatti-> use single user mode
[21:46] <blouf> Baati : do u still have the live CD ?
[21:46] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger: yeah thats why i dont understand why i cant use more disk space
[21:46] <graingert> Baatti-> and use passwd
[21:47] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger, What is the command i should use in terminal to do so ?
[21:47] <Baatti> graingert: could you explain a bit more? What precisely is Single User Mode?
[21:47] <wkid> Proftp can be run either as a service from inetd, or as a standalone server. Can anybody explain me what "as a service from inetd" means. Thnx in advance, i'm new to ubuntu.
[21:47] <Baatti> blouf: I don't have the live CD any longer
[21:47] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: try: gksudo gparted
[21:48] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger: this is what i got "error: libhal_acquire_global_interface_lock: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.InterfaceAlreadyLocked: The interface org.freedeskdesktop.Hal.Device.Storage is already exclusively locked either by someone else or it's already locked by yourselfubun"
[21:48] <mjb2287> what is my root password
[21:48] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Do you have Gparted open already?
[21:48] <blouf> Baati : so use single mode user
[21:48] <lukinfore> Slart ?
[21:48] <Baatti> blouf: what is 'single mode user'?
[21:49] <Slart> lukinfore: have you looked at these tools? http://www.ubuntugeek.com/bandwidth-monitoring-tools-for-linux.html  there has to be one that does what you want
[21:49] <Ax3> erUSUL, FANTASTIC, that did the trick, I had to do it via command line though, since it's a server without a GUI
[21:49] <Slart> lukinfore: I was playing around with nload and iptraf to see if they had any useful options
[21:49] <lukinfore> no package for that in jaunty?
[21:49] <GeffIsLegend> not too sure i know what gparted is
[21:49] <Ax3> erUSUL, it turned out since the user was part of the users group and the group bits were flipped +r, it could see them! :D
[21:49] <quibbler> mjb2287: it is the password you gave when you installed ubuntu
[21:49] <Frozen_-> i think windows 7 rox
[21:49] <blouf> Baati : ask graingert
[21:50] <Baatti> ok
[21:50] <lukinfore> well they are just gui i think
[21:50] <lukinfore> *i believe
[21:50] <Baatti> for clarification, I can log onto my Admin User Account, but apparently I set a root password that was different than my log in password
[21:50] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Like is there a "Partition Manager" open?
[21:51] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: http://gparted.sourceforge.net/screens/gparted_1_big.jpg
[21:51] <badfish69> how do i make snes9x-gtk use alsa instead of oss?
[21:51] <GeffIsLegend> yeah i have it up now
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[21:52] <quibbler> mjb2287: did you set an apart password for root??
[21:53] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger: I have gparted up now, What do i do next?
[21:53] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Okay, that is where you would resize your larger Windows partition to make room for the Ubuntu partition.
[21:53] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay, how would i do that then? unmount it first?
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[21:54] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: :) I've got the manual! http://gparted.sourceforge.net/larry/resize/resizing.htm
[21:54] <Slart> lukinfore: also you might want to look at the output of "cat /proc/net/dev" I'm not sure what all the numbers mean but it looks promising
[21:54] <GeffIsLegend> oh ok
[21:54] <GeffIsLegend> appreciate it sholsinger
 is there a default maybe?
[21:55] <svensko> i am attempting to update a fresh ubuntu installation and i want to avoid the kernel update since it is known to break wired and wireless internet on the acer aspire one - does anyone know which package i need to uncheck to avoid getting the new kernel? thanks!
[21:55] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Yeah, you should be in good hands with that reference. It looks well done. Let me know if you have trouble along the way.
[21:55] <quibbler> mjb2287: then you have to give a password for sudo what do you use?
[21:55] <omegalala> are there are roomship-production-hall for linux?
[21:55] <mike12> hey how do i get rid of the stuff that comes up when i use find in terminal
[21:55] <GeffIsLegend> oh okay will do ^^ , ill read up on it now
 like what distro?
[21:56] <mike12> is there a special command or somthing
[21:56] <quibbler> mjb2287: the default is your inlog passowrd
[21:56] <TelQuel> hello everyone, I am just trying to set up my microphone for the first time to record a few readings on my ubuntu install... how do I set up my microphone? It says "audio capture settings are invalid" when I try to enter the sound recording application
[21:56] <Slart> mike12: you want to delete the files you've found?
[21:56] <mike12> Yes
[21:56] <Slart> mike12: or you just want to clear the display?
[21:57] <svensko> i am attempting to update a fresh ubuntu installation and i want to avoid the kernel update since it is known to break wired and wireless internet on the acer aspire one - does anyone know which package i need to uncheck to avoid getting the new kernel? thanks!
[21:57] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Make sure you read part 2 before you actually do anything.
[21:57] <Slart> mike12: read the man page for find.. there is an --exec switch.. use it with the command "rm"
[21:57] <mike12> i want to completely clear my computer out...its gettin slow
[21:57] <Blueghost> my wireless connection won't work does anyone know how to fix it
[21:58] <Slart> !doesntwork | Blueghost
[21:58] <omegalala> take a wire
 ok i think i figured it out thanks
[21:58] <w00zy> does 8.10 come with dhcpcd?
[21:58] <cow_2001> so i deleted stuff through transmission but the space won't free
[21:59] <rainmanp7> Can someone take a look at this wallpaper I just made it's my first one lol please http://www.gnome-look.org/CONTENT/content-files/98717-Desk1.Final2.png
[21:59] <Blueghost> when I tried to set it up it won't connect I tried to use ndiswapper but I couldn't set it up correctly
[21:59] <Flare183> !spam | rainmanp7
[21:59] <lukinfore> Slart,  about what not sure ?
[21:59] <lukinfore> there is a table
[21:59] <erUSUL> !yay | Axz
[22:00] <dmi3on> user_, sorry are you here ?
[22:00] <GeffIsLegend> hey SholSinger
[22:00] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Yep?
[22:00] <rainmanp7> I can make way better stuff but that was made with gimp
[22:00] <lukinfore> i mean maybe there a tool that do the same as any net monitor do without using bash to calculate it
[22:00] <Bllasae> FREENODE
[22:00] <GeffIsLegend> It doesnt give me the option in Gpart to resize/move, its greyed out
[22:00] <oCean_> w00zy: nope, dhclient
[22:00] <GeffIsLegend> do i need to unmount first? or something
[22:00] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: By the way, make sure you read section 2 of that reference.
[22:00] <GeffIsLegend> oh yeah , i read it ^^
[22:00] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Yeah, that might help.
[22:01] <lukinfore> and to cut digits from useless output
[22:01] <mike12> ok im trying to completly wipe the history and everything the previous owner did on theis computer what do i do
[22:01] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: Let me know if unmounting it helps.
[22:01] <quibbler> rainmanp7: that is off topic please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:01] <lukinfore> anyway thanks
[22:01] <squidly> quick networking question. I'm trying to get eth0 and wlan0 to not start when the network is shutdown. I have in /etc/network/interfaces auto eth0\nallow-hotplug eth0
[22:01] <Slart> mike12: I would wipe it and reinstall everything.. but that's me..
[22:01] <w00zy> hey Im not an ubuntu user, but I installed it on a buddies pc the other day, Im on the phone right now w/ him trying to get him on the net. But apparently he doesnt have dhcpcd. Is there a tool that ubuntu uses to replace it?
[22:01] <mike12> ok thank you Slart
[22:01] <oCean_> w00zy: dhclient
[22:01] <squidly> will that stop eth0 from comeing up upon boot if my system is not plugged in to a lan?
[22:02] <GeffIsLegend> it wont let me unmount at all
[22:02] <Slart> w00zy: he doesn't need dhcpd to be able to get an ip from a dhcp server
[22:02] <erUSUL> w00zy: ubuntu comes eith a dhcp client installed by default
[22:02] <kfyit> w00zy-> he does not need the dhcpd (acting a server)
[22:02] <Slart> w00zy: dhcpd is the dhcp server daemon
[22:02] <BlackZ> notte
[22:02] <squidly> w00zy: you need dhclient
[22:02] <soundray> Slart: he/she said dhcpcd
[22:02] <w00zy> i didnt ask dhcpd i asked for dhcpcd
[22:03] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger :  it wont let me unmount, it says /cdrom: device is busy.
[22:03] <soundray> w00zy: dhclient replaces it in ubuntu
[22:03] <w00zy> thnx
[22:03] <Ainulph> I want to play mp3's but I check for it on Add/Remove Application and the Ubuntu Restricted Extras is extremely unpopular. Is it because they our faulty or is it that they are just not popular? The popularity has to be much higher than a single star.
[22:03] <w00zy> can I say dhclient eth0?
[22:03] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: hang on...
[22:03] <Ainulph> are* opps ><
[22:03] <squidly> w00zy: most distros use dhclient now a days
[22:03] <Slart> soundray, w00zy: oooh.. dhcpcd..my bad
[22:03] <squidly> w00zy: yes
[22:03] <w00zy> soundray: thnx man
[22:04] <soundray> w00zy: ubuntu invokes it automatically in any typical setup
[22:04] <Basket1234> I have ubuntu 8.04 i386 installed and it freezes everytime at the step hardware abstraction layer hald?  Anyone have any ideas?
[22:04] <user_> dmi3on: i am here, you gave me the server command, whats your client command?
[22:04] <w00zy> squidly: most distros?
[22:04] <theunixgeek> What's either a good rich text editor or HTML viewer for X11?
[22:05] <w00zy> soundray: almost every distro runs dhcp init code in init anyhow, but sometimes you need to give it a manual touch
[22:05] <squidly> w00zy: yea like gentoo, ubuntu, most of them I know use dhclient for getting dhcp address
[22:05] <fosco_> theunixgeek: bluefish
[22:05] <shambada2> hello
[22:05] <shambada2> list
[22:06] <theunixgeek> fosco_: as a rich text editor?
[22:06] <erUSUL> theunixgeek: html viewer --> any web browser like firefox
[22:06] <soundray> w00zy: for a manual touch, try 'sudo ifup eth0' (substitute the actual interface name for eth0)
[22:06] <theunixgeek> erUSUL: I was hoping for something simpler
[22:06] <zamba> how do i check what glibc i'm running?
[22:06] <erUSUL> theunixgeek: rtf editor openoffice abiword etc.
[22:06] <dmi3on> user_, run thightvnc or ultravnc from vista
[22:06] <w00zy> thnx I appreciate your guys' help im not an ubuntuian
[22:07] <dmi3on> user_, and i both i get same screen
[22:07] <theunixgeek> erUSUL: I was hoping for something more TWM/Motif-like ;)
[22:07] <w00zy> is that even the correct word or is it ubuntite?
[22:07] <squidly> theunixgeek: I think emacs can do rtf editing
[22:07] <erUSUL> !info dillo
[22:07] <quibbler> Ainulph: a lot of people install Ubuntu Restricted Extras....just do and listen to mp3 and judge for yourself
[22:07] <user_> dmi3on: uh, dont know nothing about vista, sorry :-(
[22:08] <soundray> w00zy: ubuntooth :)
[22:08] <Basket1234> anyone know why the hardware abstarction layer hald step would freeze?  I have removed all my extra cards so it was close to minimum hw
[22:09] <dmi3on> user_, i think probelem is with server because if i run sudo vncserver everything works fine only i cant kill server with comman vncserver -kill :1
[22:09] <svensko> i am attempting to update a fresh ubuntu installation and i want to avoid the kernel update since it is known to break wired and wireless internet on the acer aspire one - does anyone know which package i need to uncheck to avoid getting the new kernel? thanks!
[22:10] <TelQuel> what is good sound recording software for ubuntu?
[22:10] <dmi3on> user_, http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/vnc-server-and-red-hat-8-blank-screen-103360/ that is exactly like my problem i just have blank startup
[22:10] <user_> dmi3on: hmm, i think you can kill any program by using: kill -9 $pid
[22:10] <dmi3on> user_, in fron should be vcnserver ?
[22:10] <soundray> svensko: the upgrade will install a new kernel, but it will not remove the current one. You will still be able to pick the old kernel from the grub menu.
[22:10] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger, Anything?
[22:10] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: I'm not sure how this would be done.
[22:11] <svensko> soundray: will it be clear in the grub menu as far as switching between them?
[22:11] <sholsinger> GeffIsLegend: I'm researching a bit.
[22:11] <svensko> soundray: or should i find a certain command?
[22:11] <user_> dmi3on: sorry, what is "fron"?
[22:11] <soundray> svensko: I suggest you do the full upgrade, then try the new kernel and see if it really fails. If it does, reboot and select the old kernel
[22:11] <soundray> svensko: do a uname -r to see what you are running now.
[22:11] <eightyeight> i'm trying to install postgresql, but i get an error "unsafe permissions on private key file "server.key", which doesn't even exist. anyone know how to proceed? this is 8.04
[22:12] <dmi3on> user_,what do i type when i whant to kill server :1 ?
[22:12] <soundray> svensko: the latest one is 2.6.27-11-generic
[22:12] <GeffIsLegend> darn...i dont understand why its being so difficult...
[22:12] <svensko> soundray: -11 is known to break it, i did a full install earlier and it broke it, there's an entire thread about it affecting all of the atheros notebooks
[22:13] <soundray> svensko: you can set a default entry to boot in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:13] <GeffIsLegend> SholSinger, Do you know if i did the full install of ubuntu , Would it just give me the option to transfer what files i want to go into ubuntu?
[22:13] <svensko> i will do a full install then work with the grub menu though, thank you! :)
[22:13] <user_> dmi3on: ps axu | grep vncserver to find the process id. then "kill -9 $processid" (replace $processid with _your_ value)
[22:13] <soundray> svensko: works fine on my atheros notebook :)
[22:13] <dmi3on> user_, thx
[22:13] <pha3z> does anyone here use xchat?
[22:14] <soundray> svensko: ah, I'm not actually using -11, so you're probably right
[22:14] <quibbler> pha3z: most
[22:14] <fiftyone> Hello, anyone here have any experiance with HELLANZB on linux? or any ideas about good full package news readers NZB - PAr2 Unrar ect?
[22:14] <pha3z> quibbler:  is there some trick to be able to change the interface more?  the font leading is so tight that its hard to read.
[22:15] <pha3z> all i found was basic font settings... nothing tochange line-spacing or anything
[22:15] <m1lkc0w> good evening
[22:15] <quibbler> pha3z: have a look in the preferences
[22:16] <perillux> is there anything I can do about my laptop not playing flash videos very fast.  It shows with what I would describe as a low frame rate.  However, that's only for flash videos like youtube, if I play the video in vlc for example it runs great.
[22:16] <pha3z> quibbler: also when i change the background color, it doesn't have any effect.
[22:16] <deany> fiftyone,  lol , still using that
[22:16] <thomc> Hey guys. I accidentally reformatted a FAT32 partition in gparted as FAT32. I need to recover the data. Is there any way I can do this quickly without running something like GetDataBack?
[22:16] <pha3z> wtf.. now it works.... wow
[22:16] <svensko> soundray: which line am i modifying to change back to the -7 kernel?
[22:17] <fiftyone> deany haha man i cant seem to get one to work
[22:17] <svensko> i'm not used to this grub menu lay out
[22:17] <fiftyone> denay hellanzb seems to be the only one which can do all thoses, unfortunately
[22:17] <deany> well, gran ninan and i`ll guide you
[22:17] <fiftyone> i cant get it to work
[22:17] <fiftyone> :(
[22:17] <thomc> Is there a way, for example, to reverse the reformatting process... because I'm sure the data's still all there.
[22:17] <deany> do what.. exactly
[22:17] <adam_> is there anyway to scroll up and down in the bash shell without using the mousewheel? pgup/pgdn do not work
[22:18] <m1lkc0w> I need help with the partitioning of the disk. I usually use "guided" and then the entire disk as an encrypted LVM. However, I would like to have a separate /home within the encrypted LVM. So manual partitioning it is... Can someone please explain how to setup an encrypted LVM using the alternate installer?
[22:18] <quibbler> pha3z: i just changed mine to lime green....terrible
[22:18] <fiftyone> denay i did try PAN which seems to work nicely but  it messes up the files at least it did with a family guy eppisode
[22:18] <deany> pan is crap
[22:19] <quibbler> pha3z: just experiment
[22:19] <m1lkc0w> I've started with 400MB for /boot and the rest as an lvm. How do I go from here?
[22:20] <Guest9149> hi, can i install ubuntu from an usb stick? i mean copy the iso image to the stick and boot with syslinux ? i tried and it boots, but it failed to find the iso
[22:20] <pha3z> quibberl, its working now... i guess i'm insane.. but i thought last time i tried, it had no effect.  i got it.  thanks
[22:20] <svensko> Guest9149: try using unetbootin
[22:20] <pschulz01> Greetings... on 8.10 my deskclock is not picking up lat/longs of the locations I select. Is this known bug?
[22:20] <BigMike> doesn anyone know where i can change paper size from decimals to inches in open office?
[22:20] <Guest9149> ok
[22:21] <quibbler> fiftyone: have you tried grabit with wine...works fine
[22:21] <fiftyone> HellaNZB hella cool someone here hadda have used it before :(
[22:21] <deany> fiftyone, well if you need an nzb downloader than auto imports and downloads from nzb, and auto extracts, only gets pars when needed, then i`ll help ya
[22:21] <fiftyone> quibbler yea? never thought of that
[22:22] <fiftyone> deany thats EXACTLY what i need
[22:22] <quibbler> fiftyone: been using it for years no problems
[22:22] <deany> well.. grab ninan and take it to PM
[22:22] <deany> i use it, works.. end of
[22:22] <yoyit2> my ubuntu keeps freezing after i boot it. it gets to the log in screen.. then after about 3 seconds it freezes
[22:23] <rashed2020> What does it mean when my caps lock and num lock lights keep blinking?
[22:23] <Basket1234> yoyit2: i have the same issue with different versions
[22:23] <oobe> is it normal to have a .directory file on you desktio
[22:24] <yoyit2> Basket1234: have you been able to fix it??
[22:24] <oobe> desktop
[22:25] <kfyit> yoyit2-> a new install?
[22:25] <yoyit2> kfyit: yea.. it worked for a few hours, but now it wont
[22:25] <Basket1234> kfyit: i have a similar issue and have tried a clean install with 8.04 8.10 and 7.10
[22:26] <kfyit> yoyit2 -> when you say frozen, not able to use the mouse nor the keyboard at all? cant get to ctrl+alt+f1 ?
[22:26] <yoyit2> kfyit:  correct.. it doesnt do ANYTHING
[22:27] <M06w> howcome the livecd has the gnome partitioner in it, but the resulting install doesn't?
[22:27] <kfyit> yoyit2 + Basket1234  have you guys tried if its okay with livecd?
[22:27] <rashed2020> M06w: Because once it's installed you can't use the partitioner on that drive
[22:27] <Basket1234> i have usually had to use the alt cd
[22:27] <yoyit2> kfyit: it works just fine with live
[22:28] <kfyit> yoyit2 -> are you sure the installation completed?
[22:28] <M06w> but what if I want to?
[22:28] <rashed2020> You can't. The drive has to be unmounted to be partitioned.
[22:28] <kfyit> M06w -> you can not use gparted? or cfdisk or fdisk?
[22:28] <TelQuel> anyone here who can help with my microphone in ubuntu?
[22:28] <rashed2020> And if you unmount the drive, then you can't use the installation
[22:28] <__mikem> are there any ops in here? I need to make a complaint
[22:28] <quibbler> M06w: you can't use it on a mounted drive
[22:28] <TelQuel> its working for online apps like skype but the sound recorded doesn't work
[22:29] <rashed2020> But if you want to use it on a mounted drive: sudo apt-get gparted
[22:29] <rashed2020> on an UNNNNmounted drive*
[22:29] <M06w> would any trouble arrise from using the livecd to alter the partition sizes an an installation?
[22:29] <yoyit2> kfyit: possitive.. ive done it 2ce
[22:29] <M06w> on an
[22:29] <adam_> how do I add an entry to my $PATH
[22:29] <rashed2020> Using a live CD wouldn't because the hard drive wouldn't be mounted
[22:29] <kfyit> yoyit2 -> are you using wireless?
[22:29] <M06w> but I can unmount it manually
[22:29] <M06w> which I did
[22:30] <__mikem> PATH=$PATH:yourentryhere && export PATH
[22:30] <BlueLotus> yo ppls
[22:30] <M06w> or maybe you said that
[22:30] <__mikem> adam_: ^
[22:30] <adam_> __mikem: thanks mike
[22:30] <kfyit> M06w -> what exactly are you trying to accomplish?
[22:30] <rashed2020> adam_: That will only work on your current session
[22:30] <BlueLotus> i have an imbeded linux project i need some guidance on
[22:30] <BlueLotus> where could i go for that
[22:30] <adam_> rashed2020: how do I make it permanent?
[22:30] <rashed2020> If you want it to be that way every time then you'll need to put it in your .bash_profile file
[22:30] <DJ_HaMsTa> whats the essencial pack command for ubuntu ?
[22:30] <yoyit2> kfyit: yes.. and im having a hard time keeping a conection with it.. but my laptop has no problem
[22:31] <M06w> my mom has an old laptop with a dead harddrive, so we have ubuntu running off a flash drive, and I wanted to add a fat32 partition so she could transfer files easier
[22:31] <adam_> rashed2020: ahh gotcha
[22:31] <mcandertoad> BlueLotus: google
[22:31] <BlueLotus> yeah
[22:31] <BlueLotus> duh
[22:31] <durt> anyone get a phillips 713x chipset tv tuner card working?
[22:31] <rashed2020> M06w: Better do it with a liveCD
[22:31] <BlueLotus> i was hoping to talk to someone who knows what they are talking about
[22:31] <M06w> I did
[22:31] <rashed2020> Oh ok
[22:31] <rashed2020> What's the problem then?
[22:31] <kfyit> yoyit2 -> boot off of your livecd and then try to use the ethernet connectivity first, instead of the wirelesss to see it can fix it
[22:31] <__mikem> /win/win 4
[22:31] <__mikem> crap
[22:31] <__mikem> sorry
[22:32] <kfyit> BlueLotus -> which processor target?
[22:32] <BlueLotus> i want to put a tiny computer in a keyboard that has build in lcd and i want to use the tiny computer to telnet to my destop from school
[22:32] <BlueLotus> i have the keyboard
[22:32] <BlueLotus> and i know that tiny SBC's exist
[22:32] <gordonjcp> I have a really really odd USB Audio problem - when I turn on my Xiosynth, it is detected but then for some reason Ubuntu plays the Gnome startup sound through its audio interface
[22:32] <BlueLotus> its a big project
[22:32] <yoyit2> kfyit: how would it fix it??
[22:32] <kfyit> BlueLotus -> which processor target?
[22:33] <kfyit> yoyit2 -> by not attempting a wireless connection, staying on ethernet perhaps.. try it
[22:33] <M06w> so we ran the partiton editor from the livecd and edited the partition, but it was taking a long time so she went home with it, and closed the laptop; according to the settings it would only blank the screeen when the laptop is closed, but now it's not unblanking; what can be done
[22:33] <zutperman> hi
[22:33] <gordonjcp> is Ubuntu supposed to play sounds through newly-detected sound hardware?  And if so, how do I stop it?
[22:34] <kfyit> M06w -> i think she should have learned to be more patient..lol
[22:34] <NicDumZ> M06w, smack your laptop against the wall ? wild guess...
[22:34] <rashed2020> M06w: I think the installation on the drive got messed up
[22:34] <a|3x> i am having a problem with ieee1394, anyone care to help
[22:34] <thomc> how do i recover a fat32 partition?
[22:34] <kfyit> BlueLotus -> one last time  which processor target?
[22:34] <rashed2020> thomc: an image of the partition or files?
[22:34] <yoyit2> kfyit: with windows you can repair your os with the disk.. can you do that with ubuntu?
[22:35] <a|3x> sudo lspci shows a firewire device but ive got no 1394 in /dev/
[22:35] <rashed2020> damn kfyit! PATIENCE! heh
[22:35] <zutperman> is there anyone that can help me  with a soud problem (sorry for my english i'm frech and no one seems to be able to help me on the french channel)
[22:35] <NicDumZ> M06w, but seriously a huge electromagnet next to your HD should fix it up. Or not.
[22:35] <thomc> rashed2020: what i've done is reformatted it accidentally. i'd like to recover the data on it.
[22:35] <NicDumZ> zutperman, en même temps t'as déjà vu du son qui marchait sur ubuntu ? French or English... give a try, but ... =)
[22:35] <kfyit> yoyit2 -> its the connection am referring to, not an os recovery
[22:36] <a|3x> got a problem with firewire, sudo lspci shows a firewire device but ive got no 1394 in /dev/
[22:36] <yoyit2> kfyit:  yeah i know.. but im saying my os was running just fine.. but now it isnt
[22:37] <Guest29389> need help with sound
[22:37] <Guest29389> scratchy noise/no sound
[22:37] <rashed2020> thomc: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[22:37] <kfyit> yoyit2 -> you are not getting the idea, fix the attempt to use the wireless (ie disable it) and see if it stops from freezing
[22:37] <zutperman> my problem is that my pci card seems to be undetected by alsa : $ cat /proc/asound/cards
[22:37] <zutperman>  --- no soundcards ---
[22:38] <zutperman> but when i do lspci; the card is found
[22:38] <thomc> rashed2020, thanks
[22:38] <Guest29389> i dont have sound, only scratchy static noise
[22:38] <Guest29389> please help
[22:38] <NicDumZ> zutperman, have you tried #alsa ? they're usually quite good at fixing this kind of stuff
[22:38] <rashed2020> NP
[22:39] <a|3x> got a problem with firewire, sudo lspci shows a firewire device but ive got no 1394 in /dev/, anybody care to help?
[22:40] <joejc> how easy is it to setup a second monitor?
[22:40] <hvgotcodes> nickrud: you there?
[22:41] <erUSUL> !xinerama
[22:41] <Basket1234> anyone have an idea of why my computer would freeze when Starting Hardware Abstraction Hald step
[22:42] <rashed2020> I thought all you had to do was plug them in now
[22:42] <ninuuz> Hi, anyone familiar with Acer nplify (wifi)
[22:43] <ninuuz> ?
[22:43] <rashed2020> a|3x: I'm guessing it's a driver issue
[22:43] <meoblast001> how do i recursively search from my working directory for *.raw?
[22:43] <hvgotcodes> i used prevu to backport a jaunty package to intreped.  that package has since been update (so am i am told).  how do i use prevu to get the latest version?
[22:43] <a|3x> i had installed debian previously and it worked fine but i remember i had to recompile the kernel
[22:44] <gordonjcp> can anyone point me in the direction to find out what happens when a new USB audio device is detected in Ubuntu?  Just now it plays the Gnome startup sound through a new device when you plug it in
[22:44] <a|3x> rashed2020: i know it worked fine on debian but i forgot what i did, it was few years ago
[22:45] <a|3x> rashed2020: i installed ubuntu recently, now trying to figure out how to make it work again
[22:45] <lucasvo> I have just updated to jaunty and my rhythmbox stopped playing all my mp3 files. I reinstalled all the bad and ugly gstreamer plugins, but it didn't help.
[22:45] <rakudave> gordonjcp: you should be able so select it in system-settings-audio
[22:45] <rashed2020> Ah, well sorry. I don't really know much about that.
[22:45] <gordonjcp> rakudave: no, I can't
[22:46] <rashed2020> None of the experts seem to be around, either.
[22:46] <gordonjcp> rakudave: at least, I don't see an option for that
[22:46] <DrDerek> hey, I have kind of an important question - is there a way to edit the auto shutdown when my computer gets to a certian temp
[22:46] <DrDerek> currently, it's at 81-85C
[22:46] <fprimex> if I create a 64 bit Xen VM using ubuntu 8.10 amd64 as a host, can I then move that VM to a debian stable amd64 bit host?
[22:46] <DrDerek> and I think that's a little scary
[22:46] <rashed2020> DrDerek: It's fine
[22:46] <gordonjcp> rakudave: nothing there in system->preferences->sound that could suggest why it does that
[22:46] <rashed2020> And I thinkkkk that's in the BIOS, not ubuntu
[22:47] <socksy> disable ACPI?
[22:47] <Sa[i]nT> How do I check the space left on my drive with the terminal?
[22:47] <jonaskoelker> I (apt-get) install itsalltext, but when I try to edit a textarea in firefox I get "your editor has not been set".  In prefs.js, I have extensions.itsalltext.editor set to /usr/bin/emacs22-nox.  What gives?
[22:47] <gordonjcp> Sa[i]nT: "df -h"
[22:47] <fprimex> Sa[i]nT: df -h
[22:48] <hvgotcodes> in a jaunty package has been updated since the last time i used prevu on it, do i just run preview on it again?
[22:48] <rakudave> gordonjcp: strange... mine shows up there, but i had to remove pulseaudio first in order to get it working correctly...
[22:48] <TelQuel> where do I alter my audio capture settings in ubuntu?
[22:48] <gordonjcp> rakudave: are we talking about the same problem?
[22:48] <klenz> hey i need some help im using ubuntu ibex and every time i start fire fox it goes so full screen that i can see the task bar
[22:49] <adam_> in a permissions mode string of drwxrwxrwt, what does the 't' represent?
[22:49] <erUSUL> klenz: press f11 (maybe you need to do it twice)
[22:49] <rakudave> gordonjcp: i think so ;-)
[22:49] <gordonjcp> rakudave: the device works, but when it's detected Ubuntu plays the Gnome startup sound through it at absolutely mindbuggering volume
[22:49] <klenz> ill try that
[22:49] <gordonjcp> rakudave: as you can imagine, this is not something I want to have happening
[22:49] <erUSUL> !jaunty | rakudave
[22:50] <socksy> Does anybody know of an ubuntu based live cd which consists only of the base system with cli - what you'd get with a cli install with the alternative-install CD or a net-install? I'd like to build an ubuntu system from scratch on my USB drive, using Ubuntu's USB startup disk utility. Currently running off a Live CD, so can't use UCK.
[22:50] <rakudave> erUSUL: ?
[22:50] <klenz> that did it thanx
[22:50] <fprimex> adam_: save text attribute
[22:50] <cow_2001> i deleted some torrents in transmission. it deleted the files and the torrent files, but it didn't free the HDD space. What could be the cause for that?
[22:50] <erUSUL> rakudave: sorry... my mistake
[22:50] <gordonjcp> rakudave: all the other system sounds are disabled, perhaps I should just delete them
[22:50] <fprimex> adam: http://www.comptechdoc.org/os/linux/usersguide/linux_ugfilesp.html
[22:50] <erUSUL> !jaunty > hvgotcodes
[22:51] <Unislash> hey guys, i'm having a bit of a problem with my mouse settings (i think)
[22:51] <Rabbitbunny> I'm trying to get Sambe to share for an XPPro box, I've installed swat. It doesn't allow you to change anything... Where's the real gui samba setup?
[22:51] <Unislash> when i click and drag my mouse, there is a small delay
[22:51] <rakudave> gordonjcp: well, I have them disabled on my system, so i never experienced that usb-audio problem... just turn them off ^^
[22:51] <gordonjcp> rakudave: turn *what* off?
[22:52] <fprimex> Rabbitbunny: I think you can just right click on a folder in gnome, select its properties and share it that way
[22:52] <Unislash> for instance, if i position my mouse near an icon on my desktop, click and drag (quickly) in a motion that would normally select said icon... the selection is slow enough to miss the icon entirely
[22:52] <gordonjcp> rakudave: the system sounds are already all disabled, even the annoying conga slap thing
[22:52] <Unislash> this also happens when selecting text with the mouse (so you can see how that would be annoying)
[22:53] <Unislash> i've tried toggling the mouse preference settings
[22:53] <rakudave> gordonjcp: there is an extra entry in "session" to play the login-sound for some reason, try disabling thatone as well
[22:53] <socksy> Unislash: do you get the same behaviour when you disable compiz?
[22:53] <gordonjcp> rakudave: it's not the conga slap sound that plays, and that's disabled anyway
[22:53] <Rabbitbunny> fprimex: Oh. I tried that before, on my drive. The option only comes up for folders.
[22:53] <Unislash> socksy: lemme check... what's a quick way to do so?
[22:53] <gordonjcp> rakudave: it's the gnome login sound that plays, and that's disabled
[22:53] <Rabbitbunny> fprimex: Thanks.
[22:54] <gordonjcp> rakudave: *all* system sounds are disabled, it's the first thing I do
[22:54] <Narcisha> Hi, just sound suddenly stopped working after a reboot, (updated system), it finds the soundcard, volume is max, no mute, no programs blocking the sound (as i can see), any ideas of what can cause this problem? :/
[22:54] <Unislash> socksy: metacity --replace ?
[22:54] <socksy> Unislash: System -> Preferences -> Appearance -> Visual Effects?
[22:55] <rakudave> gordonjcp: yeah, but also in system - settings - session? these are all commands that get executed after you log in, and the welcome-sound has an extra entry there as well
[22:55] <Unislash> socksy: i currently have none of the radials selected
[22:55] <jeroen-> I run Vino-server with disable-background checked - but now the wallpaper is not shown at all -- when gnome starts I see it, but after a short while I see the default solid color and the wallpaper is gone -- how to get it back (properly something to do with naulilus?!)
[22:55] <gordonjcp> rakudave: this isn't after I log in
[22:55] <gordonjcp> rakudave: this is at any point when I turn on a synthesizer which includes a USB sound device
[22:56] <Unislash> socksy: metacity --replace worked... lets test
[22:56] <lasivian> I need some scripting help, is there another better channel for that?
[22:56] <Unislash> socksy: problem still occurs
[22:56] <fprimex> lasivian: what kind of scripting?
[22:56] <socksy> Unislash: I was just wondering if it were a graphics issue. Looks like it isn't
[22:56] <gordonjcp> rakudave: right, I've solved it - "sudo rm -rf /usr/share/sounds/"
[22:57] <rakudave> gordonjcp: i get you point alright, i'm just trying to think of all places that could have that entry... the "stupid" way might also be just to delete the corresponding sound-file ;-)
[22:57] <phade> lasivian: specify language
[22:57] <Unislash> socksy: nope... my single-click works just fine, thus it probably isn't graphical
[22:57] <gordonjcp> rakudave: well, I never ever under any circumstances want my computer to make any kind of sound of any sort, unless I tell it to
[22:58] <gordonjcp> rakudave: I use it for audio work, so a single system beep at the wrong moment could wreck a day's work
[22:58] <gordonjcp> rakudave: or, for that matter, deafen everyone in a 100m radius
[22:58] <Jakal> anyone know why xorg would be using %80+ of my cpu all the time?
[22:59] <rakudave> gordonjcp: all system-sounds ale located in "/usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/" so you could just delete them entirely
[23:00] <rakudave> gordonjcp: as for the beeps, you need to blacklist the beep-module: "echo "blacklist pcspkr" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist"
[23:01] <a|3x> i got a problem with firewire, sudo lspci shows a firewire device but ive got no 1394 in /dev/, anybody care to help?
[23:01] <jonaskoelker> anyone got the itsalltext firefox extension to work?  It's really cool, you can edit textareas with your favorite editor (yay for emacs/vim) :-)
[23:01] <rakudave> gordonjcp: to apply these changes immediately, run "sudo modprobe -r pcspkr" as well
[23:02] <gordonjcp> rakudave: or disconnect the speaker
[23:03] <gordonjcp> rakudave: or, more accurately, don't bother connecting the speaker in the first place
[23:04] <rakudave> gordonjcp: well ok...
[23:04] <a|3x> anybody?
[23:04] <gordonjcp> !anybody | a|3x
[23:05] <brayan_16> \\\\\\-\\\\\\- olaz -//////-//////
[23:06] <oobe> gordonjcp, he did
[23:06] <gordonjcp> oobe: not in the past half dozen pages of backscroll...
 i got a problem with firewire, sudo lspci shows a firewire device but ive got no 1394 in /dev/, anybody care to help?
[23:07] <oobe> i didnt need to back scroll
[23:07] <Rabbitbunny> gordonjcp: about 20 lines up, but don't worry.
[23:07] <Rabbitbunny> oobe: do you feel that the line 'anybody?' was useful or expedited his request in any way?
[23:07] <lasivian> shell scripting, I need a way to run a command, increment a number in that command and re-run the command until a certain # is reached
[23:08] <a|3x> when i try to recompile the kernel it shows that my config already has raw1394 enabled
[23:08] <oobe> a|3x, i dont think you need to have 1394 in /dev
[23:08] <Loki> I am currently working with an applcation that can not access a vfat mount, that is added by HAL. Is there way to set it up so all users can use this vfat mount, instead of it being owned by my specific logon?
[23:08] <oobe> i dont use firewire so i cant tell you
[23:08] <a|3x> oobe: but i got no raw1394 module
[23:08] <Rabbitbunny> lasivian: #bash would probably be a better place to ask, But you're looking for a 'for' loop.
[23:08] <socksy> is it better to try and find a way to get a base debian/ubuntu CLI installation on a USB stick, or to start with a full one and strip it away?
[23:08] <a|3x> oobe:  i got no raw1394 module even with raw1394 enabled in .config
[23:09] <oobe> what device are you trying to use
[23:09] <oobe> have you plugged somthing in
[23:09] <a|3x> oobe:  video cam
[23:09] <a|3x> oobe:  everything is plugged in but it shouldn't matter
[23:09] <oobe> ok then well best of luck with that
[23:09] <a|3x> oobe:  i cant even modprobe raw1394
[23:10] <a|3x> oobe:  i got no module called 1394
[23:10] <fprimex> lasivian: http://tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[23:10] <a|3x> oobe:  i got no module called raw1394
[23:10] <oobe> you mean in lsmod
[23:10] <a|3x> oobe:  yes
[23:11] <Bodsda> Hi, when im trying to compile i get errors saying that c++ compiler cant create executables -- it gave me this log file -- http://pastebin.com/f70235248
[23:11] <oobe> a|3x, i dont know much about it but "locate *.ko | grep 1394" showed me some modules on my system that may help
[23:11] <a|3x> i got ieee1394 and ohci1394 but when i modprobe them i don't see any 1394 devices in /dev
[23:12] <fprimex> Bodsda: is your filesystem full? check with df -h
[23:12] <oobe> like dv1394.ko
[23:12] <Bodsda> fprimex, no its not
[23:12] <Loki> Or is it easier just to mount it via fstab?
[23:13] <a|3x> oobe:  hey, looks like i got raw1394.ko
[23:13] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: search for the word "failed" in that
[23:13] <oobe> a|3x, can you modprobe it
[23:13] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: start looking around that line
[23:13] <a|3x> oobe:  just did, looks like i got it to work, testing captured video now...
[23:14] <oobe> nice
[23:14] <a|3x> why lsmod not show it?
[23:14] <m3thos> hi there, I'm using ubuntu hardy, I need cairo compiled with xcb backend, how do I do that ?
[23:14] <Bodsda> Bodsda, the line with the error is -- /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[23:14] <oobe> me was helpful :)
[23:14] <enovativ> want to  convert avi file to mp4 for my zune
[23:14] <Bodsda> gordonjcp, , the line with the error is -- /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lGL
[23:14] <oobe> it probably does
[23:14] <enovativ> does memcoder work ?
[23:14] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: mmmm-hm, and what might that tell you?
[23:14] <oobe> a|3x, try lsmod | grep 1394
[23:14] <Bodsda> gordonjcp, no idea
[23:15] <batcoder-7> who here has used tux commander?
[23:15] <DJ_HaMsTa> when using an internal and external wifi card, does ubuntu choose the external as default ?
[23:15] <fprimex> Bodsda: need to install opengl libs
[23:15] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: you're missing a dependency - "-l<something>" means "include <something> library"
[23:15] <a|3x> i got ieee1394 and ohci1394
[23:15] <a|3x> oobe: i got ieee1394 and ohci1394
[23:15] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: try "apt-get build-dep <name of thing you're building>"
[23:15] <Bodsda> gordonjcp, ok cool -- fprimex is whats the name of the package?
[23:16] <rolf_> spricht man hier auch deutsch ?
[23:16] <oobe> ok then when you modprobed raw1394 it possible loaded those modules instead for you a|3x
[23:16] <gordonjcp> !de | rolf_
[23:16] <jonaskoelker> rolf_: probier mal #ubuntu-de
[23:16] <Bodsda> gordonjcp, erm, im building a dungeonkeeper 2 clone from source, how would apt no anything about it?
[23:16] <Rabbitbunny> enovativ: google first. Your question has already been answered on the forums.
[23:16] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: is it packaged for Debian at all?
[23:16] <batcoder-7> this is driving me nuts
[23:16] <Bodsda> gordonjcp, nope
[23:16] <a|3x> oobe:  no, when i did that nothing appeared in /dev/
[23:16] <fprimex> Bodsda: try xlibmesa-gl-dev
[23:17] <gordonjcp> Bodsda: oh, you're on your own then.  But quite often if you're just making a newer or custom version of an existing package, "apt-get build-dep" will pull in most of what you need
[23:17] <enovativ> Rabbitbunny: thanks
[23:17] <Bodsda> yeah thanks for the advice gordonjcp
[23:18] <yoyit2> has anyone heard of Damn Small Linux (DSL) ??
[23:18] <Bodsda> fprimex, just tried and it still produces the same error
[23:18] <oobe> a|3x, but you can now use your dv cam?
[23:18] <Bodsda> yoyit2, yes, most of us probably
[23:18] <kindofabuzz> anyone know why NFS won't automount? i have to sudo mount -a every boot for it to mount
[23:18] <m3thos> yoyit2: afirmative
[23:18] <wassy121_> Bodsa: what does 'locate libGL.so' provide?  You may need to run 'updatedb' before you run that command to get the freshest data.
 oobe:  just did, looks like i got it to work, testing captured video now
[23:18] <yoyit2> Bodsda: where could i get an iso of the os?
[23:18] <a|3x> oobe: ye it works
[23:19] <Bodsda> wassy121_, /usr/lib/libGL.so.1  /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 -- il try the update ty
[23:19] <nightrid3r> yoyit2: google
[23:19] <a|3x> how do i make it modprobe raw1394 at boot?
[23:19] <Bodsda> yoyit2, http://damnsmalllinux.org/download.html
[23:19] <wassy121_> Bodsda: It looks like you have the normal package, but not the -devel package.  You need /usr/lib/libGS.so (without the trailing numbers).
[23:19] <Bodsda> wassy121_, ok so what is the name of the dev package?
[23:19] <batcoder-7> i am officially about to go nuts
[23:19] <Bodsda> libgo-dev?
[23:20] <Bodsda> libgs-dev?
[23:20] <yoyit2> Bodsda: yeah i looked there but it just comes up with a page with files.. (and root stuff) i have NO clue what to do with that
[23:20] <oobe> a|3x, well i wouldnt worry about /dev/ it knows what its doing udev creates what it needs there not stuff just to confirm you have hardware
[23:20] <Bodsda> yoyit2, ok 1 sec
[23:20] <Rabbitbunny> yoyit2: Then you're not ready for DSL.
[23:20] <Bodsda> yoyit2, 32 bit?
[23:20] <fprimex> Bodsda: libgl1-mesa-dev
[23:20] <Bodsda> Rabbitbunny, no harm in trying new things
[23:21] <wassy121_> Bodsda: The -dev of whatever package installs the files you mentioned.  libgl1-mesa-glx-dev I think.
[23:21] <kindofabuzz> anyone know why NFS won't automount? i have to sudo mount -a every boot for it to mount
[23:21] <Bodsda> wassy121_, ok cool, thanks :)
[23:21] <yoyit2> Bodsda:  yeah sure
[23:21] <wassy121_> Bodsda: hmm, apt-cache search finds nothing :-/
[23:21] <yoyit2> Rabbitbunny: ive gotta learn some day!
[23:22] <etech> is there a sync softare for mobile phones for ubuntu?
[23:22] <bjordan> when I type "mv directory1/* .", why does it leave .htaccess in directory1?
[23:23] <bre4kbeat> hey everyone, i have a few questions about some processes i have running
[23:23] <Bodsda> yoyit2, this should be it -- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/dsl-4.4.10.iso
[23:23] <filthpig> hey all. Any experiences on bugs when upgrading to intrepid from hardy?
[23:23] <bre4kbeat> whats xorg, python, b43?
[23:23] <IOA> xorg is what manages your GUI
[23:24] <IOA> python is a programming languages that sorta runs int he background
[23:24] <wassy121_> Bodsda: looks like no package directly installs that file.  Try running 'ln -s /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2 /usr/lib/libGL.so'
[23:24] <IOA> for things like plugins and add ons
[23:24] <bre4kbeat> roger
[23:24] <kindofabuzz> xorg = x windows python = python language, b43 is probably your wireless
[23:24] <Bodsda> wassy121_, one step ahead of ya :) cheers
[23:24] <wassy121_> Bodsda: then re-run the compile, see if it gets further.
[23:24] <filthpig> yeah, b43 is for wireless cards
[23:24] <yoyit2> Bodsda: thx
[23:24] <Bodsda> wassy121_, will do, thanks
[23:24] <bre4kbeat> just my rams always pegged at like 60% and i was just wondering if im being snooped on
[23:24] <m3thos> I'm using ubuntu hardy, with software raid, lvm and ati binary drivers, do you ppl advise upgrading tointrepid ?
[23:24] <bre4kbeat> however i do run a few screenlets
[23:24] <Bodsda> yoyit2, your welcome, you may want to read the text file first though -- http://distro.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/damnsmall/current/1-readme_first.txt
[23:24] <bre4kbeat> and other prgms
[23:25] <IOA> there's something on System Monitor that lets you look at how much RAM each process is using...
[23:25] <IOA> have you pinpointed which one is using the most?
[23:25] <bre4kbeat> yea i have it open
[23:25] <IOA> yeah all three of those things are important
[23:25] <bre4kbeat> thats where i saw some stuff running and had a few ???'s
[23:25] <IOA> so I wouldn't kill them...
[23:25] <bre4kbeat> umm
[23:26] <Bodsda> m3mar8, i wouldnt -- things work, dont try and fix something that isnt broken by upgrading your system
[23:26] <b0xxy> wats this Ubuntu Server Edition?
[23:26] <bre4kbeat> leme monitor for a sec
[23:26] <b0xxy> is this fake?
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> b0xxy no..
[23:26] <kindofabuzz> it for servers, hence the name server edition
[23:26] <a|3x> oobe: thanks for your help
[23:26] <b0xxy> is it new?
[23:26] <kindofabuzz> no
[23:26] <b0xxy> ol
[23:26] <IOA> lol.
[23:26] <b0xxy> jsut no one uses it?
[23:26] <Jack_Sparrow> boWe have always had a server edition and an alternate install
[23:26] <IOA> I'd imagine the server edition is like a stripped-down linux for servers
[23:26] <kindofabuzz> it's ubuntu without the gui, for servers
[23:26] <m3thos> b0xxy: yes, new and shiny.. all the elite guys use it
[23:26] <bre4kbeat> well mostly xorg, python, and b43...but pulse audio is also on there and i dont know what that is
[23:26] <kindofabuzz> i use it!
[23:26] <b0xxy> rofl
[23:26] <IOA> well breakbeat...
[23:26] <IOA> pulseaudio is kinda weird
[23:27] <kindofabuzz> server editon lamp server
[23:27] <b0xxy> so its ubuntu with out gui
[23:27] <IOA> I don't think it's a necessary process unless that's what you use for your primary sound
[23:27] <Jack_Sparrow> b0xxy right
[23:27] <b0xxy> k
[23:27] <b0xxy> lol
[23:27] <IOA> pulseaudio is like
[23:27] <bre4kbeat> it rarely jumps above 0
[23:27] <IOA> it's like a driver that lets you use different sound channels at once
[23:27] <jj_> someone help me how i do to config wireless in ubuntu 8.10
[23:27] <IOA> for example...
[23:27] <bre4kbeat> jj_
[23:27] <kindofabuzz> anyone know why NFS won't automount? i have to sudo mount -a every boot for it to mount
[23:27] <IOA> if you're running a 3D game that takes up a whole sound channel
[23:27] <bre4kbeat> jj_, yo maybe i can help
[23:27] <IOA> you might not be able to run anything else that uses sound
[23:28] <bre4kbeat> jj_, what card do you use?
[23:28] <IOA> unless you have pulseaudio
[23:28] <IOA> that handles the csound channels
[23:28] <IOA> *the sound channels
[23:28] <jj_> ralink
[23:28] <bre4kbeat> i might have installed it when i ran a few audio apps
[23:28] <IOA> yeah I'm not quite sure how it appeared on my PC either
[23:28] <IOA> anyway I'm gonna go now...
[23:28] <bre4kbeat> jj_, edit wireless networks?
[23:29] <bre4kbeat> thanks IOA
[23:29] <IOA> bye
[23:29] <IOA> you're welcome..
[23:29] <jj_> i can not config just wireless
[23:29] <little> I'm not sure if this is the place to ask, but does anyone know why the feisty-backports/, feisty-proposed/, feisty-security/, feisty-updates/ folders are still on the package servers?
[23:29] <jonaskoelker> how can I make firefox not be dog slow?
[23:30] <Spidler> jonaskoelker: disable the URL checker.
[23:30] <yoyit2> is there anyway to share an internet conections between 2 computers with an ethernet cable?
[23:30] <little> jonaskoelker: Get rid of all addons and put them back one by one until you find the culprit.
[23:30] <phade> jonaskoelker: try firefox -P
[23:30] <Spidler> yoyit2: yes.
[23:30] <ezerhoden> jonaskoelker: fasterfox for firefox 2.*
[23:30] <latexer> NicDumZ: thanks for the suggestion, just doing a "dist-upgrade" got me to 7.10, and I'm on to the 8.04 upgrade now.
[23:30] <phade> jonaskoelker: to see if it is problem of the extensions
[23:30] <bre4kbeat> jj_, system / administration / network
[23:31] <NicDumZ> latexer, awesome !
[23:31] <jj_> give me a link to do that
[23:31] <bre4kbeat> jj_, can you not see your connection in there?
[23:31] <Jack_Sparrow> jonaskoelker One user suggested this.. but I have not tried it..  Getting firefox up to speed.. in xorg.conf, in your "Module" section, adding glx/v4l/dbe/extmod/fbdevhw/record/freetype/type1/dri took care of it.  i.e: section "Module" Load "glx" Load "v4l" ..... EndSection
[23:31] <yoyit2> Spidler: how would i go about doing this?
[23:32] <Spidler> on Gentoo I had a small shellscript that would generate a list of files in /usr, compare to the list of files installed according to the package manager, and give me a diff for "files existing but not managed" .   How can I do something like that on Ubuntu/Debian?
[23:32] <Spidler> yoyit2: iptables/netfilter, set up a Masquerade filter,  or use any of the built in firewalls. Your "sharing" machine needs 2 ethernet cards however.
[23:32] <Jack_Sparrow> Spidler write a small shell script
[23:32] <afallenhope> hey anyone able to help me out? trying to update Java to the lastest. sadly running Ubuntu 8.04.2 64 bit and the  java 1.6.0.7 I want the java 1.6.0.12
[23:33] <Spidler> Jack_Sparrow: Sure,  Just peering for help on how to get the info out of dpkg
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> !clone
[23:33] <yoyit2> Spidler: what if its a laptop using wifi.. and sharing out a ethernet?
[23:33] <_VIM_> !backports | afallenhope
[23:33] <Spidler> Jack_Sparrow: Wrong, that only responds a list of packages,  not a list of files claimed by packages :/
[23:33] <Jack_Sparrow> Spidler To replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « dpkg --get-selections > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo dpkg --set-selections < my-packages && sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade » -                is better
[23:33] <Spidler> yoyit2: That works.
[23:34] <Spidler> Jack_Sparrow: yes, That doesn't do what I want here.
[23:34] <Jack_Sparrow> spYou need to do the work, you had a custom shell script before, you need to find one or write one..
[23:34] <Spidler> Jack_Sparrow: the problem is, how do you get a list of files claimed out of dpkg
[23:34] <nickrud_> Spidler, you're looking for cruft
[23:35] <shahla> can some body let me know the +/-- on KUBUNTU and UBUNTU
[23:35] <Spidler> nickrud_: I am? Thanks
[23:35] <yoyit2> Spidler: and were would i get one of those firewall programs.. cuz i cant seem to find them in add/remove
[23:35] <nickrud_> Spidler, erm, the package as well :)
[23:35] <bogey> I try to build xrandr from source, it compiles ok, but when changing mode, it complains  cannot find mode 0x10d
[23:35] <bogey> binary version works ok
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !friewall
[23:35] <Jack_Sparrow> !firewall
[23:36] <jonaskoelker> little: when disabling addons, would I have to restart firefox for each change?
[23:37] <little> jonaskoelker: I disabled them all, restarted Firefox and then added them back one by one. When you add them, it automatically has you restart each time and protects the tabs or pages you have open.
[23:37] <rakudave> jonaskoelker: no, disable them all at once, then restart
[23:37] <shahla> is it possible to run an application in UBUBTU with root p/w?
[23:37] <jj_> break4,,   yes i can understood how i can do the connection in there?
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> shahla sudo or gksudo
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !sudo > shahla
[23:37] <Jack_Sparrow> !gksudo > shahla
[23:38] <shahla> thanks
[23:38] <Jack_Sparrow> np
[23:38] <little> jonaskoelker: I have the FoxLingo addon and it's a MONSTER, so I leave it disabled and only enable it when I need it. (:
[23:38] <afallenhope> _VIM_, so backports are updates?
[23:38] <Ketrel> What do I have to do in menu.lst to kill the graphical boot?
[23:39] <nightrid3r> i just installed edubuntu ltsp server, client gets dhcp address but cant boot, tftpd is spawning several child processes when the client try to connect
[23:39] <rakudave> little: have you tried ubiquity for translating yet?
[23:40] <nickrud_> Ketrel, you want to boot directly to a console, no gui login?
[23:40] <little> rakudave: No - what is it?
[23:40] <jj_> bre4kbeat,, i don t see system / administration / network  but tools for network
[23:40] <_VIM_> afallenhope: yes a few updates get placed in !backports , that doenst mean every package is updated though
[23:41] <afallenhope> _VIM_, yeah I read the page lol you too too long :-p
[23:41] <_VIM_> afallenhope: you could also try seeing if someone made a PPA
[23:41] <_VIM_> sorry I was afk playing with photoshop afallenhope :)
[23:41] <rakudave> little: it's real kung-fu, watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvjdXNnRMfU
[23:41] <Ketrel> nickrud_: no, I just don't want the graphical splash booting
[23:41] <[coda]> hi there!
[23:42] <durt> anyone get a phillips 713x chipset tv tuner card working?
[23:42] <[coda]> excuse me guys, does anybody know how to configure an intel 82865G card on intrepid?
[23:42] <afallenhope> _VIM_, no worries. Photoshop + Wine = w00t although ..GIMP pretty sweet too
[23:42] <_VIM_> afallenhope: i think also adding the !Medibuntu repos might also get you a more updated Java
[23:42] <afallenhope> !medibuntu
[23:43] <nickrud_> Ketrel, in menu.lst , find  #defopts=quiet splash  , remove splash to drop the sliding bar with ubuntu text, remove quiet to see all the kernel boot messages. When done, run sudo update-grub to propogate those changes to all your kernel boot lines
[23:43] <nickrud_> Ketrel, don't remove the leading #
[23:44] <nightrid3r> durt: thats the tuner chip, probably your problem will be with the decoder chip
[23:44] <Schuenemann> hi, I'm getting this error all the time. Can someone give a hand? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1056434
[23:44] <Mike_92> I'm having trouble setting up my printer in Intrepid. Ubuntu has detected it, but when I try to print it just feeds the paper through about six times. Can someone please help me?
[23:44] <ca_rlo> Hello
[23:45] <[coda]> I'm trying to configure an intel 82865G, and the svideo output is not desplaying properly on the TV.. does anybody know what could be wrong?
[23:45] <ca_rlo> Using Simple-CCS have the option Windows Preview on Task-Bar?
[23:45] <Hertta> lshw -C network shows that the NIC is disabled(?). How to enable it?
[23:45] <Hertta> rmmod+modprobe won't help. :<
[23:46] <NET||abuse> Hey guys.. i was wondering how I can take some episodes of a tv program off the dvd, got it for christmas, i'm just 2 episode from the end of the series,, friend of mine is some episodes behind, so i was gonna lend him the disk to catch up, and i want to take an episode for myself tonight.. handbrake and k9 are having issues.
[23:46] <little> rakudave: Wow. Oh. Wow. That is so cool. (:
[23:47]  * m3thos is building cairo by hand to use awesome
[23:47] <rakudave> little: :-D
[23:47] <little> rakudave: Is it a monster, or is it well-behaved?
[23:48] <jimi__hendrix> is open office 3 in repos?
[23:48] <m3thos> I have a build error, can I paste it ?
[23:48] <rakudave> little: never had problems with it. it comes from mozilla, so they probably know what they're doing
[23:48] <Mike_92> I'm having trouble setting up my printer in Intrepid. Ubuntu has detected it, but when I try to print it just feeds the paper through about six times. Can someone please help me?
[23:48] <ca_rlo> I'm using CompizConfig Settings Manager, but nothing happens. Someone know how to turn-0n that?
[23:49] <Max-P> Hi, I am having a NetworkManager problem. I am trying to connect to an Ad-Hoc network with a WEP key but nm-applet refuses to keep my key and put a random one instead.
[23:49] <little> rakudave: I'm about to install it. (:
[23:50] <rakudave> little: the cool thing is, you can add you own commands with almost no effort
[23:51] <Ketrel> nickrud_: thanks :)
[23:51] <binarymutant> is there a way to get gksu (and applications that use it like synaptic?) to not lock the screen from on-screen keyboards?
[23:51] <little> rakudave: Awesome - I love to tinker! Darn, I have to log in to get it, so I'll have to create an account. I hate when they do that. (:
[23:52] <rakudave> little: i know, so do i
[23:53] <Bomber87> hi all!
[23:53] <nosferatu> hello
[23:54] <kernel> hi
[23:54] <nosferatu> does anyone know information about installing KDE 4.2 on Ubuntu srvr?
[23:55] <Keith1> I really need some help with my wireless, I've tried everything, and I can not get it to work.  It is BCM43XG rev 01.  Worked when I installed Ubuntu, then after the first reboot it stopped.  Enabling it through Hardware Drivers does nothing.  Tried countless ndiswrapper guides, all failed.  Any ideas?
[23:56] <nat2610> !thunderbird
[23:56] <adeel> why doesn't 'apt-get install postgresql' on Gutsy actually install the config files in /etc/postgresql?
[23:56] <nat2610> anybody know who to export everything from thunderbird, I'm chaning pc and I'd like to export everything to the new one (emails, configuration, rules for fildering...)
[23:58] <Phantomime_> hey there, I am trying to get rid of ubuntu. I read that you open up the terminal and you type in "sudo cfdisk/ dev/ hda" and then you put your pass word in , and then you can get to a screen that will lead you through uninstalling Ubuntu. I am currently unsuccesful though. I get a message that says FATAL ERROR: Can not open Disk Drive. What do I do?
[23:59] <Keith1> Phantomime: How did you install Ubuntu?  Is it the only OS on the computer?
[23:59] <Schuenemann> Phantomime_, you're probably trying to open the CD. Try with /dev/sda
[23:59] <Stargazer> how do i, using a LiveCD, copy/paste my previous /home to an external ?
[23:59] <spill> anyone know how to setup samba to ready vista shares?
[23:59] <jason_> I installed linux-backports-modules-intrepid yesterday (as per this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1026770) and got my wifi working. Today, it wasn't working anymore. I restarted my computer, and tried again, but the list of wifi wouldn't show my SSID. I know the wifi works cause I have other laptops. I tried debugging a bit... iwconfig show wlan0 as a wifi device, but ifconfig won't show wlan0... If I try ifconfig wlan0 up
[23:59] <jason_> , I get SIOCSIFFLAGS: Resource temporarily unavailable