[00:03] JontheEchidna: Strigi uploaded. Thank you for your contribution to Kubuntu [00:04] you're quite welcome [01:26] quiet nite [01:31] everyone left [01:32] they ran away [01:35] They phear the return of the stick [01:36] * Hobbsee muhahahaha [01:36] http://imagebin.ca/view/m330Zdb.html [01:36] :( [01:36] KDE doesn't like hal updates very much [01:37] plasma crashed too [01:37] oh dear [01:37] Hal restarts should be survivable. [01:37] Dbus not so much. [01:39] Three cheers for test building .... Just had a stray '$' left in a .install file patch. [01:39] So much for copy and paste. [01:51] #13 0xb637ccdf in ~OrgKdeSolidNetworkingClientInterface (this=0x1032b7d8) at /build/buildd/kde4libs-4.2.0/obj-i486-linux-gnu/solid/solid/org_kde_solid_networking_client.cpp:25 [01:52] #18 0xb6346cc3 in PowerManagementPrivate (this=0x1032b908) at /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qstring.h:385 [01:52] #19 0xb636d7ae in Solid::Backends::Hal::HalDevice::property (this=0xdfeef58, key=@0x6) at /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qmap.h:469 [01:52] #20 0xb636d84a in Solid::Backends::Hal::HalDevice::property (this=0x0, key=@0x6) at /usr/include/qt4/QtCore/qvariant.h:333 [01:52] solid problems [01:55] * ScottK recalls having to beat some sense into guidance-power-manager about HAL restarts. [02:02] does quassel lockup/freeze for anyone else? [02:03] not in intrepid for me (utilizing ScottK's ppa) [02:05] quassel in Jaunty is unusable [02:05] completely unusable [02:05] ah haven't tried it [02:05] freezing all over the place for me [02:05] * jjesse needs to rebuild my jaunty vm [02:07] i found it worked OK for me [02:08] until i opened konversation, anyway. [02:08] Quassel was working for me in Jaunty [02:09] weird [02:11] rgreening: I get occasional hesitations that have more to do with 'sqlite sucks' than anything else. [02:11] rgreening: Are you using the monolithic client or the split client/core? [02:11] this doesnt appear slight. It freezes so I have to terminate [02:11] I had a few freezes/memleaks with the url preview function [02:11] sudo apt-get install quassel??? [02:11] No. I haven't seen that, but I'm on Intrepid. That's the monolithic one. [02:12] Upstream have been very responsive, so I guess of you could strace it or something to get some idea of where it was hanging. [02:13] * JontheEchidna thinks he's found his bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160221 [02:13] KDE bug 160221 in libsolid "Solid Crash (assertion dev->backendObject()==0 failed)" [Crash,New] [02:14] Ill try\ [02:14] it has a patch that was applied to trunk too [02:16] looks like it keeps executing brk (break) ScottK [02:17] * ScottK looks at Sput and hopes that's meaningful [02:18] and killing the konsole with the strace still left the quassel window open and hung... as in it never properly closed the app upon getting a quit/close from the command... strange indeed [02:20] rgreening: I'd suggest filing an upstream bug with all the info you know. [02:20] I just had one get fixed in 24 hours. [02:21] yeah. It could be my system... as I am running KDE4.2 and Qt4.5 (could be a Qt issue) [02:21] Id like some someone else with KDE4.2 on Jaunty (with Qt4.4.3) to test... [02:24] I'd say submit the bug pointing that out and see if they are interested. They've got a vested interest in Qt 4.5 not sucking after all. [02:27] rgreening: works fine for me [02:27] I am using it as we speak [02:28] Ok, sounds like a me issue.... still not happy :) [02:28] Don't worry. I'll fix that (preparing a new upload) [02:28] lol [03:27] Riddell: I disabled nepomuk and the kstartupconfig4 crash went away. So, it seems nepomuk is a problem with Qt4.5 [03:27] Color me not stunned. [03:28] nepomuk should probably be burned and disabled [03:33] Disable then burn. It'll be easier to catch. [03:33] :P [03:33] Just uploaded quassel again. This one will be good for it's debut Alpha milestone I think. [03:34] for Jaunty or Intrepid or both? [03:34] Both [03:34] I always update my PPA at the same time so seele can check it out. [03:34] Being as she's in charge of the "You must fix this" usability list. [03:35] hehe [03:37] nixternal: You up for Alpha 4 release notes? This will be a big one: KDE 4.2.0, amarok 2 on CD, quassel on CD, return of kdebluetooth (sort of even working). [03:42] jussi01: that login thing only works for uses ubottu knows about anyway [03:49] I'm about to do a kdepim upload if anyone has anything (I'm fixing installability for kdepim-dev) [03:57] rgreening: Tried amarok with Qt 4.5? [03:58] yeah. seems fine [03:58] Interesting. [03:58] Guy on #amarok is claiming it doesn't work. [03:59] Is yours the release or svn amarok? [03:59] I just launched in and played a sone [03:59] song even [03:59] rgreening: ^^? [03:59] I am using amarok from Jaunty [04:00] K [04:04] Might be worth tossing the Jaunty amarok package to your PPA with Qt 4.5 in it to see what happens. [04:05] Riddell: Looking ahead to the Alpha 4, we have 3 packages we care about uninstallable: amarok needs the msql 5.1 MIR. konq-plugins needs binary promotion of some ones newly enabled. Kdepim has kdepim-dev with a bad depends from the boost transition. I'm fixing that one. The other two I think are up to you. [04:06] ScottK: can't work on release notes, I have way to much work I have to do [04:06] nixternal: Any suggestions on who? [04:07] anyone really, it isn't rocket science [04:11] jjesse? [04:11] Riddell: ^^^ We'll need to find someone to do release notes (not me). Lots of new shiny goodness this release. [04:12] ScottK: I'll add in an amarok rebuild to my PPA and see what happens [04:12] Kewl. [04:12] If it fails, it'd be a good (bad) data point. [04:12] I think jjesse would be good if he's available. [04:17] My wifes lappy died. HD failure. had to buy a new one. reinstalling tonight/tomorrow (or Ill be killed) [04:39] * ScottK deftly wields "Convert to a question" and now our quassel package is bug free. [04:41] * Hobbsee converts ScottK to a question, too [04:41] Almost forgot. plasmoid-network-manager appears on the CD first time this go 'round too. [04:46] BTW, if /me is the question, the answer must be scary. [04:48] heh [04:56] Hobbsee: I think kde4-style-qtcurve is the one that I thought made FF look OK. [04:56] ScottK: hrm, i thought i'd try that. I'll check when I next boot jaunty [04:57] ScottK: Do you think enough time has passed to start preparing the backports for KDE 4.2? Or should we wait some more? [05:05] nhandler: I'd like to get 4.1.4 verified and in -updates first. [05:05] Hobbsee: Your Intrepid box is Gnome, right? [05:08] yes [05:09] Hobbsee: Would you please install kontact first from the main repo and then from -proposed and see if it acts any different as described in this bug: Bug #324232 [05:09] Launchpad bug 324232 in kde4libs "Any KDE4 application started in GNOME becomes full screen" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324232 [05:09] * ScottK has got no box he can try that on. [05:10] So far all but one of the so called regressions I've dealt with haven't been regressions at all. [06:34] OK. kdepim uploaded, so that uninstallable should be sorted. [06:42] thank god. My PPA is all bunged up do to libboot et al [06:42] libboost even [06:50] ScottK: amarok2.01 built successfully against Qt4.5.0 [06:52] Figures. [07:14] rgreening: Quassel does not currently work with Qt 4.5 [07:14] we're fixing this currently [07:15] looks like Trolltech decided to change the internal format for signal/slots which kills our signal handling [07:31] morning [07:55] * Lure thinks it is getting harder and harder to follow quassel and p-network-manager packages (ScottK and Tonio_, you rock!) [07:55] ;-) [07:55] Sput: does that explain why quassel freezes when I run it (with qt 4.5 installed)? [07:59] Riddell: will you consider droping knm from the archives or just demote it to universe [07:59] ? [08:00] Tonio_: depends on how reliable the plasmoid is :) [08:00] if the plasmoid works for everyone we should drop knm [08:03] Riddell: yeah, I have to test everything this WE... [08:03] Riddell: means WPA, WPA2, WEP connection, VPN [08:04] Riddell: I can't test 3G btw.... I don't know who can... [08:04] Riddell: we should discuss adding kmplayer-konq-plugins to kubuntu-meta btw.... [08:04] Riddell: very little, shouldn't be an issue [08:05] Riddell: now PNM seems to work, I'll stop pushing nightly-builds, and will perform a QA test before each upload, in order not to break anything [08:06] Tonio_: I havent been able get the nm plasmoid to compile today :/ [08:19] jussi01: hum lemme look [08:21] jussi01: building 920546... [08:21] CMake Error at CMakeLists.txt:45 (message): [08:21] It is necessary to specify the directory where the client policy file for [08:21] NetworkManager-kde4 is installed as DBUS_SYSTEM_POLICY_DIR. Normally this [08:21] is /etc/dbus-1/system.d on a Linux system [08:21] Tonio_: ^ [08:23] thats after the initial cmake on a clean builddir [08:28] still nobody interested in revuing http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=skrooge ? :) [08:29] * jussi01 prods Tonio_ to -motu :D [08:30] jussi01: I tried but nobody responded :) [08:30] Tonio_: yeah, gets like that soetimes [08:34] jussi01: builds successfully here [08:35] * jussi01 wonders whats gone wrong... :/ [09:10] Riddell: any reason we have this : kmail: /usr/share/applications/kde4/akonadiconsole.desktop [09:10] Riddell: shouldn't that be part of akonadi package, and therefore, shouldn't we have it hidden by default ? [09:10] end users might not need this... [09:14] umm, dunno [09:15] mm, should probably be in akonadi-kde [09:16] when is feature freeze for jaunty? [09:18] feb 19th [09:19] thx [09:20] amarok: [ERROR!] MySQL library initialization failed. [09:20] grump [09:24] Riddell: shouldn't we just hide it ? [09:30] Tonio_: I don't know what it does [09:54] Riddell: most likely it does explain it, yes [09:56] hmmm [09:56] Kubuntu rocks :) [09:56] just had to say it again [09:56] updating stuff is so easy and smooth [09:56] loving it [09:57] best distro I've ever used, that's for sure [09:57] (been using SUSE for years, ooh, the pain!) [09:57] * Riddell hugs markey [09:58] my suse installation was widely known as "Chaotix" ;) [09:58] markey: don't suppose you know how to compile amarok against a mysql which isn't installed to /usr ? [09:59] Riddell: we some sort of FAQ for that, lemme grab the url [09:59] sec [09:59] http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Development/MySQL_Embedded [09:59] hopefully helpful, I'm not sure [09:59] give it a try [09:59] * markey isn't much of a mysql expert.. [10:24] here we go, fresh 4.2 on this box [10:24] the upgrade was not without problems though [10:24] had to --force-overwrite a bunch of stuff [10:24] a normal user would have run into problems [10:24] a newb, I mean [10:25] in fact I'm kinda newby'ish; Mamarok helped me === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [10:28] markey: that on intrepid/8.10 ? [10:30] yes [10:30] markey: don't suppose you still have a list of those errors? [10:30] also NEON regularly generates conflicts, for some reason [10:31] sec [10:31] asking Mamarok [10:31] she knows better [10:31] Riddell: there was a problem I solved with force-overwrite [10:32] Mamarok: right but do you have it still in a terminal to copy and paste the error? [10:32] for kde-oxygen-icon [10:32] those icons are pesky like that [10:32] some stuff could not overwrite [10:32] markey: check the konsole, should still be somewhere [10:33] no way [10:33] rebooted [10:33] silly me, right [10:33] history os not persistent afaik [10:33] is* [10:34] hmm [10:34] something else: [10:34] ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in [10:34] /home/mark/.kde/share/apps;/usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings/kde4-profile/default/share/apps;/home/mark/kde/share/apps;/usr/share/kde4/apps [10:34] anyone got a quick idea on that? [10:34] I seem to be missing something [10:35] markey: should be in /usr/share/kde4/apps/cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake from kdelibs5-dev [10:35] hmm [10:36] thanks, got it [10:36] yikes, the auto-removal of packagas scares me a bit [10:37] always afraid of losing some dep I need for compiling [10:37] any way to disable that? [10:37] The following packages will be REMOVED: dcraw{u} kde-core{u} krita-data-kde4{u} latex-xft-fonts{u} libbluetooth-dev{u} libboost-dev{u} libboost-serialization-dev{u} libboost-serialization1.34.1{u} libcapseo-dev{u} [10:37] markey: what are you running which does auto removal? [10:37] ..etc [10:37] did that: [10:37] mark@Hyperion:~/kde/src/amarok$ sudo aptitude install kdelibs5-dev [10:38] mm, I just use apt, there's probably a way to tell apititude not to do autoremoval but I couldn't tell you what [10:38] ok [10:38] gotta say I love aptitude [10:38] very nice app [10:39] * Sput fondly remembers when installing qt4-dev removed parts of X11 :) [10:39] a couple years ago though [10:39] args [10:39] I'm really afraid of such things [10:40] I had something similar happen once [10:40] suddenly half of my dev environment was gone [10:40] no fun ;) [10:40] I don't trust package managers that remove stuff without clearly showing their reasoning [10:40] well usually apt is really smart about that [10:40] but [10:40] ... always look through the list of packages being removed [10:40] if you have stuff installed for compiling something, apt cannot know if that is still needed [10:40] not automatically [10:41] of course [10:41] doesn't it record if you explicitly installed a package? [10:41] dunno [10:41] Sput: it does [10:41] rather than it being pulled in as a dep [10:41] not an expert on that [10:41] and there is probably a way to add packages to that "wanted list" too [10:41] so apt knows you want them [10:41] Sput: "aptitude unmarkauto" does that [10:42] ah [10:42] and "aptitude markauto" tells that you don't care (remove if nothing else needs it) [10:42] cool thanks [10:43] btw, there is a glaring usability issue, but that is probably plasma rather than kubuntu [10:43] the error plasmoid that comes up when a plasmoid is broken contains a big red X icon [10:43] this icon looks like a button [10:43] it isn't one [10:43] extremely confusing [10:43] seele might be interested in that [11:02] /home/mark/kde/src/amarok/src/collection/sqlcollection/XesamDbus.h:22:39: error: strigi/qtdbus/strigitypes.h: No such file or directory [11:03] anyone remember what package is missing? [11:03] I keep forgetting [11:03] some strigi foo [11:03] that might be an error in our cmake foo, it fails to check for that properly [11:03] says "ALL OK", and then errors out during compile [11:04] * markey installs libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev [11:04] !find strigi/qtdbus/strigitypes.h [11:04] File strigi/qtdbus/strigitypes.h found in libstrigiqtdbusclient-dev [11:04] yeah [11:05] thx [11:05] why is cmake not checking that properly, hm [11:05] somewhere along the chan there is a bug [11:05] chain* [11:05] in amarok, or kde [11:06] it's not cmake, it's the compiler not finding the header [11:06] I realize that ;) [11:06] <- programmer [11:07] but you said it was cmake just? [11:07] or am I just not reading right :p [11:07] I think there is a check missing in our cmake foo, it should error out before compiling, if this dep is missing [11:08] but doesn't [11:09] ahh, I see what you mean now [11:09] :) === ScottK changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Main Archive: frozen for alpha-4 | e-mail Riddell for STICKERS | Specs! http://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuJauntySpecs [11:27] stickers? [11:29] stickers, thinks that sticks to other things [11:29] * stdin fails at spelling today [11:29] * Tm_T goes sticky mode [11:31] btw, is there a chance to get plasma widgets to work correctly soonish in 4.2? [11:31] used to work in RC1, doesn't work anymore in final :( [11:31] bad regression IMHO [11:31] Mamarok: how they doesn't work? [11:32] Tm_T: well, I can't use most of them anymore, like pastebin, folderview, etc. [11:32] like if I change the folder, nothing shows [11:33] impossible to drag and drop to pastebin [11:33] Mamarok: interesting... can you give me full list what applets doesn't work? [11:33] Mamarok: sounds like you have a package or two that isn't up to date [11:34] Riddell: I was thinking the same [11:34] Mamarok: what does apt-cache policy kdebase-plasma | grep Inst show? [11:36] Riddell: Installed: 4:4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa2 [11:37] I don't use that many, strangely Comic Strip works again and it didn't so in RC1 [11:38] well, s/strangely/happyly [11:38] ScottK: does kubuntu-experimentals xorg already fix what adamspain ships in his ppa? (=video garbage) [11:38] (talking about intrepid) [11:42] Riddell: managed to build a german language pack from the dsc that batl10n produced. so in case i create debdiffs for all languagepacks for 4.2 where should i put them or are they already done for intrepid? [12:06] anyone know Jorge Castro's email address? [12:08] markey: one moment [12:09] markey: aye, I did remember right, jorge@ubuntu.com [12:10] thx :) [12:25] sma [12:25] oh [12:26] one little question for all... was there a kepas equivalent (and eventually compatible) for kde3 [12:41] i saw my name somewhere [12:42] markey: i can't do much about missing plasmoids although there is probably a more graceful way to let the user know the widget is broken than a big red X [12:51] Mamarok: have you tried removing the widget and inserting it again? [12:53] a|wen: yes I have, didn't work [12:54] okay ... did work me once, so could have been [12:54] seele: the point is, most users will try to click on that particular big red button because it looks too mich like a button [12:54] Mamarok: ah yes, definitly [12:54] maybe changeing it to a triangle would be more appropriate === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde [12:55] * seele wonders if the HIG says to use a red X icon and that's why they did that [12:59] Mamarok: strange ... i've got intrepid + kde4.2 as well, and can't find a single one, that doesn't work [13:00] Mamarok: any output from "dpkg -l | grep 4.1.96" ? [13:00] a|wen: did you upgrade from RC1 too? I have been told it might be a problem with that [13:00] Mamarok: i did [13:01] and no, there are no reminaing 4.1.96 packages [13:02] Mamarok: i'm out of good ideas then ... broken settings file somewhere perhaps === davmor2 is now known as davmor2-lunch [13:05] Mamarok: tried a new user? [13:07] markey: I'm around, what's up? [13:13] Does anybody know why kde daemon started to open kwallet at logon recently (4.2.0)? [13:15] jcastro: just wanted to ask you a question regarding MP3 patenting, but this is easier over email. I'll send you a mail, ok? [13:20] markey: sure! I don't know anything about mp3 patenting but I will do my best [13:23] Nightrose: I always start with a new .kde/ when I upgrade to a new version... [13:24] jcastro: oh ok, I was told that you're right person to talk to [13:28] markey: if not I can point you in the right direction [13:28] knusperfrosch: kubuntu-experimental's xorg-xserver drops a patch that is the source on video garbage. I haven't looked at admspain's PPA, so I can't say for sure. [13:30] markey: i told you he is the one to point you to the right person - not that he is the right person ;-) [13:30] Mamarok: For the plasma widgets, they have to be recompiled against the new libplasma. So on Intrepid, any that you installed from the main repo and didn't update from kubuntu-experimental are sure not to work. [13:31] oh ok [13:32] sorry then [13:32] jcastro: can you point me to the right person to talk to? ;) [13:32] markey, Mamarok: are you guys coming to fosdem by the way? [13:33] amarok team: yes. me personally: no [13:33] I plan to attend LinuxTag, Froscon, Akademy [13:33] this year [13:33] well at least those [13:33] plus OpenExpo [13:33] limiting yourself is wise :) [13:33] :) [13:34] Froscon is something I can really recommend [13:34] best FOSS conference imho :) [13:34] well exluding Akademy [13:34] danimo is one of the organizers of Froscon [13:34] or somehow involved in it [13:38] s [13:38] Riddell: no, too much work [13:38] fair enough, just means I can't offer to look at your plasma issue there [13:39] claydoh: Any chance you'd be up for being 'Mr. Release Notes' for Alpha 4? [13:39] I'm afraid I'm away from home just now so don't have an intrepid system to try and recreate the issue, but it sounds a lot like something is affected by the ABI change that happaned in plasma prior to release [13:40] mrvanes: no idea why kwallet is being used on startup [13:40] Riddell: it works perfectly fine here on intrepid with latest updates [13:40] Nightrose: yeah I'm pretty sure it was all working for me when I was at home [13:40] Riddell: am I the only one then? Nobody a kwallet request from kde daemon at logon? [13:41] mrvanes: maybe it's network manager? [13:41] Riddell: Not that I really mind, I just find it curious and I can't figure out why it would need kwallet access? [13:41] congrat for the update to kdebluetooth 0.3, it seems to be working now [13:41] EagleScreen: in jaunty? [13:41] not, in Intrepid [13:42] oh, good [13:42] i haven't done tests in Jaunty [13:42] Riddell: maybe... I'll keep that in mind, but you're not seeing it? [13:43] I'm not no, sometimes konqueror asks for a password on startup if its loading a page which needs it [13:43] mrvanes: could be e-mail access too [13:43] markey: just send me the mail and I'll pass it along [13:44] Riddell: I'm used to kontact and kopete asking for it... no problem... but never had kded ask... so that's when I started wondering [13:45] Riddell: the strangest part is that I'm missing no functionality after disallowing access this session... [13:46] jcastro: ok cool, gonna do that [13:46] ScottK: I think I could give it a shot, how soon? [13:46] Release on Thursday. [13:47] claydoh: Just grab the ones from last time and update. Things I know of: [13:47] mrvanes: I get that, but I think it may be one of my plasmoids, though I don't know which or why [13:48] claydoh: I thought that too... but I have not plasmoid with 'password' related tasks [13:48] claydoh: as far as I know ;) [13:48] * claydoh will check [13:48] * claydoh suspects his yawp weather plasmoid [13:49] which is the bee's knees imo :) [13:49] claydoh: I have that too ;) [13:49] Kmail/Akonadi & Amarok co-installability fixed, Quassel is our new default IRC client and on the CD, plasmoid-network-manager (the KDE4 replacement for Knm) is on the CD (Knm still present for now), kdebluetooth back and working (at least sort of), and of course, KDE 4.2.0 [13:49] * claydoh will logout nand check [13:49] ScottK: kewl [13:50] claydoh: I'd highly recommend a link to your blog post on Quassel in there (it's actually what made me think of you for the job). [13:50] Riddell: claydoh ^^^ is our release notes volunteer. [13:50] * claydoh blushes [13:51] anyway I really wanted to find something to do *not* involving kubuntuforums right now:) [13:58] mrvanes: definitely looks like yawp is doing it [13:58] ScottK: just got to test a bit further on the bluetooth part in intrepid ... the only thing i can't get to work is to receive files on the computer, but pairing and sending works [13:59] Definite progress. [13:59] claydoh: Thx for testing! Strangest part is that I have weather info without letting kded into kwallet? [14:00] I dunno, though the plasmoid does cache its data untill it can connect [14:00] Riddell: will digikam/kipi-plugins be on CD for next alpha or are we lacking space? === davmor2-lunch is now known as davmor2 [14:00] ScottK: from the terminal i can see that the obex-server start as 'kbluetooth4(8189) ObexServer::ObexServer: "00:00:00:00:00:00"' ... which does look like it is missing the mac-address, so could very well be kdebluetooth/obex integration problem [14:00] claydoh: Hmm... that would be a good test then. Still no reason to ask for kwallet of course [14:01] Lure: it takes up 30MB, that's really too much [14:01] Lure: 20MB of that is marble [14:01] a|wen: Whatever it is, is also almost certainly present in Jaunty, so any information for a good upstream bug would be highly useful. [14:02] Riddell: ups, fogot about that.... [14:02] Riddell: tackat mentioned that he might separate 20MB data package into must have and optional [14:02] Riddell: but I suppose this is 4.3 material [14:03] ScottK: i'll try to see if i can collect some more info ablout what might fail [14:03] Riddell: can we get at least kipi-plugins (no marble there) in order to provide nice extensions to gwenview [14:04] a|wen: Great. JontheEchidna seems to do very well with upstreaming bugs, so you might want to talk to him about what info would be good. [14:06] http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2009/01/bugskdeorg.html [14:09] thx [14:12] kipi-plugins seems to be about 5MB, we can probably live with that [14:12] agateau: do you think it's a good thing to have kipi-plugins installed (rather than another language pack) [14:22] Riddell: btw, what about the 4.2 langpacks for intrepid? [14:22] Riddell: yes, kipi-plugins add quite a few nice features [14:22] knusperfrosch: 4.2 isn't officially in Intrepid. [14:23] ScottK: i know, but having a half translated 4.2 from kubuntu-experimental isn't nice either [14:24] If someone were to write an appropriate script to grab the translations, we could add them to kubuntu-experimental. [14:24] Our most likely candidate for such work is currently on vacation. [14:24] * ScottK waves to vacationlogger. [14:24] k, so batl10n needs some love [14:25] rgreening: When you tried Quassel on Qt 4.5, which version did you have? [14:27] ScottK: dpkg-buildpackage did work for the resulting sourcedir, the only issue i recognized was "jaunty" in the changelog. [14:28] You need to edit debian/changelog before building. [14:28] didn't edit anything, batl10n did the work [14:29] i'll have a look at the script.. [14:48] kbluetooth4 0.3 crashed at turn off bluetooth device, can I obtain debugging symbols anywhere? [14:49] probably not for intrepid [15:00] ScottK: I just tried the latest snapshot for KDE4.2 and I just updated quassel today. Still freezes solid for me [15:01] qt snapshot I mean [15:01] o/ rickspencer3 [15:01]