[01:19] <dashua> Whoa, this new fade effect in Nautilus is nice when changing wallpaper
[01:24] <_MMA_> dashua: ?
[01:24] <_MMA_> Ahh... I see.
[01:25] <dashua> Pretty cool, eh?
[01:25] <_MMA_> Could be a little smoother here but that could be a driver thing. I got some other related bugs.
[01:26] <dashua> Oh, seems pretty smooth here.  Yeah, maybe a driver.
[01:26] <dashua> Are you 180.27 now?
[01:26] <_MMA_> Intel
[01:26] <dashua> Ah
[01:26] <dashua> That's probably it.
[01:27] <_MMA_> I can't enable Compiz yet either.
[01:27] <_MMA_> No big deal.
[01:27] <dashua> Oh man.  That would be a killer for me.
[01:28] <dashua> They should have the Intel driver issues worked out by release.
[01:28] <dashua> I can't believe how rock solid Nvidia has come in the last two years.
[01:28] <dashua> Still issues, but very view. Although, I'm not a PC gamer.
[01:30] <_MMA_> I got bit by the titlebar bug but upgrading from 177 fived it.
[01:31] <dashua> Ah yes.  I have that on my downstairs PC with Intrepid on a 7600 GS
[01:32] <dashua> I think that's one of the longest standing Ubuntu bugs that the Human theme always take the blame for.
[01:33] <_MMA_> Yeah. My card is a 7950GT.
[01:33] <dashua> It goes from Compiz > Nvidia > Human Theme
[01:33] <dashua> and the all over again
[01:33] <dashua> I think it was on the 6000/7000 series
[01:33] <dashua> I never saw it on my 8400 GS
[01:51] <dashua> _MMA_: https://dl-web.getdropbox.com/get/Photos/Screenshot-19.png?w=48841027
[01:52] <dashua> Still need to work out the check and radio buttons, but it's coming along.
[05:29] <DanaG> Here's the glassybleu theme:  http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot-glassybleu.png
[05:42] <gaminggeek> DanaG: do you want some crits?
[05:43] <DanaG> Not my theme, actually -- it's HP's theme on the Mini 1000 netbook.
[05:44] <gaminggeek> ah ok
[05:44] <gaminggeek> well IMHO its way to dark :)
[05:44] <DanaG> It's publicly available.. yet not publicized.
[05:44] <DanaG> Yeah, it's not usable on anything but max brightness.
[05:44] <DanaG> My current theme, for comparison:  http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot-orange.png
[05:46] <gaminggeek> I'm still using the fantastic dust theme :)
[05:46] <gaminggeek> nice theme if you like orange :)
[05:47] <DanaG> I've found that the color and brightness of the theme I'm using can quite drastically affect my mood.
[05:47] <DanaG> Orange is about the most cheerful color I like.
[06:25] <DanaG> MMA: oh yeah, if you were curious about that theme, there it is.  Removing underscores to avoid an explicit "ping".
[13:15]  * _MMA_ waves.
[13:18]  * thorwil waves back
[15:08] <DanaG> Ooh, glassy-bleu theme.  http://www.csc.calpoly.edu/~dgoyette/screenshot-glassybleu.png
[16:34] <dilomo> thorwil: you were right that the selected images of the treeview should go to the ned of the widget
[16:35] <dilomo> gtk currently does not support spaces above and below the firts and last items
[16:36] <dilomo> here's the last progress:
[16:36] <dilomo> http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1905/screenshotthewidgetfactjc6.png
[16:36] <dilomo> I changed the header style abit too and now I'm stuck with the progressbars
[16:41] <dilomo> any ideas ?
[16:43] <thorwil> dilomo: i would reduce the glossiness
[16:43] <dilomo> the glossines of what?
[16:44] <thorwil> progressbars
[16:44] <thorwil> to instead try to make them look flat, like set into the main surface (level). this because they're non-interactive, nothing to "touch"
[16:44] <thorwil> dilomo: i think you should leave the text of the selected item in the tree view black
[16:45] <dilomo> it is black when it has focus
[16:45] <dilomo> but when the focus is gone (in the header now) it becomes lighter
[16:46] <thorwil> dilomo: not having a border around the whole tree view is an improvement, but the gap above/to-the-left of the scrollbars doesn't look right
[16:47] <dilomo> true
[16:47] <thorwil> dilomo: you could without any change the the active column header. you already have the column bg and the sorting triangle
[16:47] <dilomo> I made it the gap only to see clearly the treeview
[16:48] <dilomo> and now I don't know how to integrate the scrollbars to it
[16:48] <dilomo> the old design makes the edges with srollbars too heavy
[16:48] <dilomo> and making the further away is not verry visually connecting to the scrolled window
[16:53] <dilomo> the old ones look like this:
[16:53] <dilomo> http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=87134&file1=87134-1.jpg&file2=87134-2.jpg&file3=87134-3.jpg&name=New+Wave
[16:54] <thorwil> dilomo: i guess there's no way to have the vertical scrollbar start below the column headers?
[16:54] <dilomo> nope
[16:55] <thorwil> dilomo: you could try to make the headers look raised, as if floating above everything else
[16:57] <dilomo> thorwil: even above the outer border? What would this win for me?
[16:58] <thorwil> dilomo: it should make it look detached from the scrollbar
[17:01] <dilomo> hmm I'm not really sure about that because what the header is in its nature is button. I use some tricks to make it integrate better in the scrolled window but  I can't imagine how more I can raise the headers than in the following preview:
[17:01] <dilomo> http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1905/screenshotthewidgetfactjc6.png
[17:02] <thorwil> i see no difference
[17:02] <dilomo> compare to this:
[17:02] <dilomo> http://gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=87134&file1=87134-1.jpg&file2=87134-2.jpg&file3=87134-3.jpg&name=New+Wave
[17:02] <dilomo> the headers in the second pic are sunken
[17:02] <thorwil> http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/1905/screenshotthewidgetfactjc6.png is much better
[17:03] <dilomo> yes that are the new ehaders that I'm making
[17:04] <dilomo> probably I don't know how to express myself in words but if I connect the scrollbars and additional gray line will be added thus resulting in 2x dark lines at the right and bottom of the treeview
[17:05] <dilomo> that's why I want to make a new design for the progress bars that should better integrate them and possibly not make 2px line
[17:05] <thorwil> i don't think that has to be a problem
[17:06] <dilomo> but on the link (loner and of gnome look) you can see it looks blurry and not sharp enough
[17:07] <dilomo> I tried to face it as dropped shadow but not quite good
[17:07] <dilomo> fake*
[17:45]  * dilomo dinner