[00:00] <Laney> We have gotten f-spot to be syncable again \o/
[09:21] <huats> morning everyone
[09:22] <didrocks> morning huats
[09:22] <huats> hey didrocks ;)
[09:23] <pochu> hi didrocks & huats
[09:24] <didrocks> hey pochu & seb128 :)
[09:24] <seb128> lut didrocks
[09:24] <pochu> hi seb128
[09:24] <seb128> didrocks: want some updates to do?
[09:25] <huats> seb128: hello !
[09:25] <huats> seb128: i am doing the gnome-keyring , the gcalctool and the gtksourceview
[09:25] <seb128> hey pochu
[09:25] <seb128> lut huats
[09:25] <seb128> huats: ok cool
[09:25] <didrocks> seb128: yes, I am currently working on gnome-python* and I have one pending question about a patch you did (but I prefer to ask you when you will be less busy), but you can give me more to do, with pleasure :)
[09:25] <huats> (at least the last 2 ones are done here)
[09:25] <seb128> didrocks: I'm not too busy right now
[09:25] <huats> oh and deskbar-applet too is done here
[09:25] <seb128> didrocks: you can do gnome-games and evince if you want
[09:26] <seb128> huats: I've already uploaded deskbar-applet ...
[09:26] <huats> seb128: ok
[09:26] <didrocks> seb128: ok, I take them both
[09:26] <seb128> I was trying to find things to do for myself and though you wouldn't start by this one, sorry about that
[09:26] <huats> seb128: no pb :)
[09:26] <huats> I was offline when I saw it
[09:26] <huats> :)
[09:26] <seb128> I though gcalctool and gnome-keyring were going to take you busy until we spoke on IRC
[09:27] <huats> and I assume you were drinking beers ;)
[09:27] <huats> seb128: no problem at all :)
[09:27] <huats> seb128: gnome-keyring still have issue related to the used flags...
[09:27] <huats> and upstream haven't answered me...
[09:27] <huats> I'll try to find out (again)
[09:27] <seb128> use bugzilla rather than direct email
[09:28] <huats> I will
[09:28] <seb128> who are you mailing upstream about that?
[09:28] <huats> stefan walter
[09:29] <huats> seb128: I am putting the various stuffs I did on LP today and once it is done I ping you to ask for more :)
[09:29] <seb128> ok
[09:30] <didrocks> seb128: so, if you have time about the patch, the question was about 01-dont-build-with-lpython.dpatch in python-gnome
[09:30] <didrocks> seb128: I paste it there, easier: http://paste.ubuntu.com/113129/
[09:31] <seb128> didrocks: looking
[09:33] <seb128> didrocks: the goal was to avoid having gnome-python depending on a specific python version when we were doing multiversion built, that's probably less revelant when using 2.5 only
[09:34] <didrocks> seb128: but it seems to have some parts that are still depending on a specific python version (see second stenza)
[09:36] <seb128> didrocks: not sure, apt-cache show python-gnome2 and see the depends
[09:37] <seb128> didrocks: upstream might have changed since, don't bother we do only use one python version in jaunty
[09:37] <seb128> the easy way to check is to look at the depends when building different python versions
[09:38] <didrocks> seb128: ok, this is clearer
[09:39] <didrocks> seb128: do I still keep the patch, even if it's not relevant ?
[09:39] <seb128> didrocks: yes, it will be useful again when we get python 2.6
[09:39] <seb128> and then we can check if it needs update
[09:40] <didrocks> seb128: right, ok :) I prefered to ask you before juste keeping the patch to keep the patch (I like understand what I do, surprising ? ;))
[09:40] <didrocks> seb128: thanks a lot
[09:41] <seb128> sort of surprising when you are used to work with huats ;-)
[09:41] <seb128> (just joking huats)
[09:41] <didrocks> rohhhh ^^
[09:41] <huats> seb128: that is not nice seb128
[09:42]  * huats thinks about switching to kubuntu ;)
[09:42] <seb128> lol
[09:42] <didrocks> :)
[09:42] <huats> seb128: do they have gcalctool in kubuntu ?
[09:42] <huats> ;)
[09:43] <pochu> kalktool
[09:43] <pochu> kalktool4 even ;)
[09:44]  * didrocks wishes that kile is ported to gtk... installing a bunch of qt lib just because you use LaTeX :/
[09:44]  * pochu hides from Riddell :)
[09:44] <pochu> didrocks: heh, my only qt app is also for LaTeX ;) but it's Texmaker
[09:45] <didrocks> pochu: hum, I never got used to Texmaker, I switched quickly to kile
[10:47] <seb128> pitti: hello
[10:47] <seb128> pitti: hello
[11:01] <crevette> hello there
[11:03] <seb128> lut cr
[11:03] <seb128> lut crevette
[11:04] <crevette> salut seb128
[11:26] <davmor2> Meh after todays update I know have 2 sound icons in the panel, 1 gnome sound the other pulse any ideas why?
[11:47] <crevette> davmor2, I have the same
[11:55] <davmor2> crevette: bug 324807
[12:00] <crevette> davmor2, tx
[15:11] <crevette> thanks super seb128
[15:13] <crevette> thanks super seb128
[15:13] <seb128> crevette: thanks for what?
[15:13] <crevette> now I can do the epiphany
[15:13] <crevette> update
[15:14] <seb128> ah ok
[15:14] <crevette> I was stuck do the broken releases of gtk+
[15:44] <ember> seb128 i will work on sj update, is there any other updates that need work?
[15:45] <seb128> no
[15:45] <seb128> other updates are assigned already or not to do for now
[15:46] <ember> ok ping me if you have any updates free
[15:47] <seb128> right
[15:47] <ember> thanks.
[15:48] <pochu> hi ember
[15:48] <ember> hey pochu
[16:37] <fta2> seb128, when I push a file to a davs:// server using nautilus, the transfer never finishes. the file looks fine on the server (apache2), but on the client, the progress bar stays at 100%. Rings a bell?
[16:37] <seb128> no
[16:38] <seb128> I don't use webdav but the gvfs code is quite buggy
[16:38] <fta2> I also get DBus timeouts when i try to reconnect to a davs:// ressource
[16:38] <fta2> DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive a reply (timeout by message bus)
[16:38] <seb128> the upstream hacker is busy with university for a while
[16:38] <fta2> hmm, damn
[16:40] <fta2> seb128, is it worth a bug?
[16:40] <seb128> an upstream one
[16:47] <fta2> ok, thanks
[17:21] <mahfiaz> with todays update there came a new volume control for pulseaudio. This does not support changing volume with mouse-wheel scrolling. When compared to the old panel applet this is a regression.
[17:21] <mahfiaz> is this part of pavucontrol?
[19:08] <oly562> im trying to load this webcam, can someone help me out? im pretty good with linux, and it shouldnt take too long, i just need some tips or clues ok? let me know what you want displayed from cmdline and i will provide any info that you may need. thanks!!
[19:18] <dobey> if it doesn't "just work" in for example, skype, there is probably an issue with the drivers, or it is just unsupported
[19:20] <oly562> sighs
[19:20] <oly562> Bus 005 Device 023: ID 041e:403d Creative Technology, Ltd WebCam Notebook Ultra
[19:20] <oly562> its there though
[19:21] <dobey> what chipset is that?
[19:21] <oly562> cant i do a mount fs usb something /dev/video0 to /mnt/vid0
[19:21] <oly562> something like this
[19:21] <dobey> the camera doesn't have a filesystem, no
[19:22] <dobey> and if it did have a flash filesystem on it, there would be a /dev/sd[a-z] device for it
[19:22] <dobey> but that wouldn't get you video
[19:23] <dobey> what program are you using to try and use the camera with?
[19:24] <oly562> all the basics
[19:24] <oly562> camorama, cheese, kopete
[19:24] <oly562> 5-6 of them
[19:24] <oly562> vlc
[19:24] <oly562> vls
[19:24] <oly562> yadda
[19:24] <oly562> so forth so on
[19:25] <oly562> same thing
[19:25] <oly562> no /dev/video0
[19:25] <oly562> which means in /dev there is no video0 file
[19:25] <oly562> link
[19:25] <oly562> notta
[19:29] <dobey> what chipset is it?
[19:35] <oly562> how do i find that out
[19:35] <oly562> dobey: ?
[19:35] <oly562> thanks
[19:35] <oly562> im not about to open it lol
[19:37] <dobey> google i guess
[19:38] <oly562> oh
[19:38] <oly562> thanks
[19:38] <oly562> rolls eyes
[19:38] <dobey> i searched for the usb id there, and the first thing i found was: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=543204
[19:38] <dobey> :)
[19:39] <oly562> that user is fiesty os, im on hardy, and i have seen that post, and usually forums blow for input. yet i still read them, and still cam is dead
[19:42] <dobey> i don't know. my cam works fine, but it's a different chipset
[19:42] <dobey> perhaps there is an issue with the driver then
[19:47] <oly562> im way past the basic net searches, and driver loading, and kernel moding
[19:48] <oly562> i have tried ov51x, Spca5xx
[19:48] <oly562> so forth
[19:48] <oly562> so on
[19:55] <dobey> your camera is spca5xx
[19:58] <oly562> k
[19:58] <oly562> sure?
[19:58] <oly562> lol tell me how you know, for my better understanding
[19:58] <oly562> what clued you in?
[19:59] <oly562> i think all the ones i have tried are the right one. lol
[20:01] <oly562> Which the spca5xx driver is included in the Ubuntu kernel and works out of the box in Ubuntu 6.06 and higher
[20:01] <oly562> im on hardy
[20:01] <oly562> 8.04
[20:02] <oly562> i think that mod is now gspca which i do have
[20:03] <oly562> locate spca5
[20:03] <oly562> /usr/lib/libgphoto2/2.4.0/spca50x.so
[20:03] <oly562> /usr/share/doc/libgphoto2-2/camlibs/README.spca50x.gz
[20:03] <oly562> thats not it
[20:03] <oly562> i do have
[20:04] <oly562> /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/media/gspcav1
[20:04] <oly562> /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca.ko
[20:04] <oly562> .ko file
[20:05] <oly562> so i just loaded them
[20:05] <oly562>  sudo modprobe -v gspca
[20:05] <oly562> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l1-compat.ko
[20:05] <oly562> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/v4l2-common.ko
[20:05] <oly562> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/drivers/media/video/videodev.ko
[20:05] <oly562> insmod /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/ubuntu/media/gspcav1/gspca.ko
[20:05] <oly562> and...
[20:05] <oly562>  lsmod |grep -i vid
[20:05] <oly562> videodev               29440  1 gspca
[20:05] <oly562> v4l2_common            18304  1 videodev
[20:05] <oly562> v4l1_compat            15492  1 videodev
[20:05] <oly562> video                  19856  0
[20:05] <oly562> output                  4736  1 video
[20:05] <oly562> so...
[20:06] <oly562> i try to load cheese, kopete, camorama, vlc, vls, so forth, same error
[20:06] <dobey> because it's there doesn't mean it's bug free :)
[20:06] <oly562> Could not connect to video device (/dev/video0)
[20:06] <oly562> ha
[20:06] <dobey> obviously there is a problem. maybe you should file a bug in launchpad, or watch one that's already been filed if there is one that matches your issues
[20:06] <oly562> hmmm
[20:07] <oly562> i just signed up for a launchpad last week or so
[20:07] <oly562> good idea
[20:07] <oly562> Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[20:07] <oly562> [ 6014.001023] usbcore: registered new interface driver gspca
[20:07] <oly562> [ 6014.001030] /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-generic/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.20 registered
[20:07] <oly562> dmesg looks good
[20:08] <oly562>  /var/log/message is good
[20:08] <oly562> Feb  3 12:05:04 pluto kernel: [ 6013.979413] Linux video capture interface: v2.00
[20:08] <oly562> Feb  3 12:05:04 pluto kernel: [ 6014.001023] usbcore: registered new interface driver gspca
[20:08] <oly562> Feb  3 12:05:04 pluto kernel: [ 6014.001030] /build/buildd/linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-2.6.24/debian/build/build-generic/media/gspcav1/gspca_core.c: gspca driver 01.00.20 registered
[20:08] <dobey> please stop pasting everything in channel :)
[20:08] <oly562> why?
[20:08] <dobey> if you need to paste logs/etc... you should use pastebin.com
[20:08] <oly562> its just a screen
[20:08] <dobey> because it makes it hard to read
[20:08] <oly562> what?
[20:09] <oly562> its only 3 lines
[20:09] <oly562> lolol
[20:09] <dobey> that is not 3 lines
[20:09] <oly562> its chat
[20:09] <oly562> sheshh
[20:09] <oly562> im not pasting the whole dmesg or message ... :|
[20:32] <oly562> shrugs