=== asac_ is now known as asac [08:45] smb_tp: ping [08:48] emgent_, pong === mcasadevall is now known as NCommander [14:20] is there a xen kernel for jaunty? [14:36] apw: Do you have those rebase script tweaks in a git repo yet? If so I should take a look at them as part of my getting linux-libc-dev for !x86/armel upoaded. [14:52] apw: Sorry, I'm on IRC for somewhat longer than I was just earlier. === KterinK is now known as dou213 [14:53] apw: Never mind, I see the lpia upload. I'll pull that tree and have a look. [15:11] TheMuso, yeah rebase-lpia should be the right one in the lpia tree [15:13] apw: Yeah got it, I'm going to use rebase/retag-lpia and change them for ports and use them as a base. [15:17] TheMuso, cool. if you need to ask anything about how its intended to work etc yell [15:18] apw: Thanks, but I think I'll be right. [15:37] is there any way for a thread to figure out if its is being traced by someone or not [15:54] c [16:51] apw, smb_tp, I am making progress. apw I have rebased based on your new script changes. Just need to make a few more changes before I'm willing to upload a git tree. I should have something ready tomorrow morning, given I'm not pulled away for discussions/meetings. [16:52] TheMuso, that is awsome [16:52] TheMuso, Great [16:55] * lamont has a kvm/intrepid question... [16:56] so kvm host with winxp runninng inside it (so shoot me)... if the kvm window is in another workspace, it appears that (at least) when the windoze app is doing I/O, that it blocks because the window isn't in the foreground workspace... how do I beat that into submission^W working anyway? [16:56] no libvirt involved here - that makes me cry somewhat [16:58] lamont: JOOI... Compiz or no compiz? [16:59] metacity [16:59] metacity [16:59] Could you try with compiz? Just for fun? [16:59] 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c) [17:00] soren: that involves figuring out who to actually turn on compiz... and all of the pain that it causes [17:00] * soren has a half baked hypothesis about the cause of this [17:00] lamont: just do "compiz --replace" in a terminal. [17:00] lamont: And when you get bored with all the wobbliness, do "metacity --replace". [17:01] soren: the only really-missing bit from compiz for me is keyboardFocusPolicy == strict [17:01] which, uh, is documented in the source of metacity... [17:01] :-) [17:01] and available via gconf-editor [17:01] well, that seems to have let it finish running [17:02] I'll give it a better test next time I boot the beatsy [17:02] beasty, even [17:02] * lamont likes the way compiz/metacity --replace hijacks the terminal window by not daemonizing. [17:03] well, maybe 'likes' isn't completely accurate [17:03] It's a feature. [17:04] soren: for many bonus points and beers, port metacity-2.24.0/debian/patches/001_strict_focus.patch to compiz [17:05] Q: when does the newly created window get focus? A: NEVER [17:19] soren: http://paste.ubuntu.com/113264/ explains _why_ switching to compiz didn't change anything... [17:19] in that it didn't switch [19:06] I think I'm getting a kernel panic on 8.10 via Wubi on Vista....I'm suspicious of the wireless...Broadcom BCM4311...how can I enable dumps/get a backtrace? [19:08] im trying to load this webcam, can someone help me out? im pretty good with linux, and it shouldnt take too long, i just need some tips or clues ok? let me know what you want displayed from cmdline and i will provide any info that you may need. thanks!! [19:09] oly562: is it USB-attached? [19:10] oly562: did you try just plugging it in? [19:10] usb [19:10] 2.6.24-19-generic === maxb_ is now known as maxb [19:11] Bus 005 Device 023: ID 041e:403d Creative Technology, Ltd WebCam Notebook Ultra [19:12] kennethr1: you good with linux mods and drivers? web cams specifically [19:13] oly562: what are you trying to do? [19:18] your kidding right kennethr1 lolol [19:18] nevermind dude. you should know by now [19:18] oly562: no, I mean what isn't working [19:19] oly562: are you trying to use skype? cheese? what? [19:19] what's the problem [19:19] cheese doesnt see it [19:20] camorama neither [19:20] nor kopete [19:20] so forth [19:20] im trying to have my cam at least work locally [19:20] on linux of course [19:21] you're on 8.04? [19:24] yes [19:24] LTS [19:31] VF0070 is my model for cam [19:36] k so [19:37] kennethr1 really didnt have much info did he [19:37] lol [19:55] How can I enable kernel panic dumps? [20:42] How can I enable kernel panic dumps? [21:41] hi kernel people. ive been looking at bug 272530 for a while, and it's turning out to be something that can be fixed on some machines using a bios update. on other machines, the most recent bios doesn't help. i'm guessing it's still a bios bug, just one that's being ignored by some manufacturers. should it be invalidated, or is there some way the kernel can work around the issue? [21:41] Malone bug 272530 in linux "64-bit Intrepid automatic permanent reboot loop related to having exactly 4GB of memory" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272530 [21:45] it's very much still a bios bug. if enough info is provided, namely dmidecode, it could be warned during boot. [21:53] dtchen: dmidecode? i dont know how to tell them to get that info [21:53] dtchen: and when you say "warned on boot" do you mean throwing up a "you have a bios bug, so this won't work" message or finding a way to work around it? [21:54] the former [21:54] dmidecode is shipped by default [21:54] in fact, some of the necessary info is already grabbed during boot; see /var/lib/acpi-support [21:54] oh just "dmidecode > dmidecode.txt"? [21:55] specifically, see /etc/acpi/start.d/10-save-dmidecode.sh [23:35] hiiii....i tried to fork a child and then create several threads in the child made each one of them say ptrace_traceme. Then I watched thoses threads execute and i observed that all threads become zombie. But the output of the ps command showed parent alive. Can anybody explain this thing