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| asac | fta: 20:18 < toddw> asac: are you looking at this for a linux distribution? | 08:16 |
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| asac | 20:19 < toddw> asac: Komodo's quite tied to a standalone Mozilla runtime, as this Mozilla code is somewhat modified to suit Komodo's needs | 08:16 |
| asac | 20:20 < toddw> asac: the siloedPython could just as easily use a system python, provided the version is correct | 08:16 |
| asac | 20:21 < toddw> asac: as Komodo requires Python 2.6 | 08:16 |
| asac | mconnor: what do you mean by "lack of callback" exactly? | 08:26 |
| mconnor | asac: I'm going to bed (3:30 AM, and I went out) | 08:28 |
| mconnor | asac: but, basically, there's no action on click, aiui | 08:28 |
| asac | mconnor: ok. sleep well | 08:28 |
| mconnor | asac: we should sync up tomorrow, but I think this is worse thank our system :-/ | 08:29 |
| asac | mconnor: our usability folks say that when notifications need actions there is something wrong ... but platform wise we could probably extend the the impl to provide a callback | 08:46 |
| asac | mconnor: you probably already read http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/253 ... if you disagree with that I would appreciate and input, so I can carry that forward | 08:48 |
| asac | mconnor: firefox seems to use alerts in two places: download | 08:49 |
| asac | and updates | 08:49 |
| mconnor | asac: when I sober up, I'll write this up better, and angrier, but basically, once you inform me of something that's worth informing m of, I have to make a decision on something | 08:49 |
| asac | mconnor: thanks ... not sure why it has to be angrier though ;) | 08:50 |
| mconnor | I mean, if you tell me there's an update, I have to deide if i care. and if I do, I have to go the long way, instead of just clicking on the thing | 08:50 |
| mconnor | asac: because it makes me angry when people reinvent the wheel to be a 12-sided polygon instead of round | 08:51 |
| mconnor | asac: are you going to be at FOSDEM? | 08:52 |
| asac | mconnor: didnt plan a trip yet, so i probably wont make it. time just flew by and so on ... | 08:53 |
| mconnor | but, but, Belgian beers! | 08:53 |
| mconnor | in four days! | 08:53 |
| asac | i have german beer every day ;) | 08:53 |
| mconnor | bah | 08:54 |
| mconnor | asac: my basic assertion is that if I don't want to to posssibly take an action, then why the hell are you distracting me to tell me? | 08:54 |
| mconnor | I don't care how transient it is, it'll attract my attention, and either a) I don't care, in which case, why are you bothering me? or b) I care, in which case you're not giving me an easy way to take said action | 08:55 |
| mconnor | asac: where can I point out the fallacy of this design? other than writing a blog post about the idiocy of your "usability" people? | 08:57 |
| asac | mconnor: if you want to do it public right from the beginning its probably blog | 08:58 |
| asac | otherwise write stuff up in an email, and i forward ... and when you get reply you can blog ;) | 08:58 |
| mconnor | asac: I don't care whether it's public, I just want to make this be as useful as the existing tech on Windows and Mac :) | 08:58 |
| mconnor | I like the non-modal and transient stuff | 08:59 |
| asac | mconnor: then please give me that input and i will forward that. | 08:59 |
| mconnor | ok | 08:59 |
| mconnor | (note: transparency fail) ;) | 08:59 |
| britta_ | ?question. For the first time ever I don't seem to have much success with installing lightning for thunderbird. Thunderbird runs fine, but I can't see the calendar lightning as I normally can. I have sudo apt-get removed and installed a couple of times, but no difference. Does anybody have a suggestion? | 10:57 |
| britta_ | forgot to add, am running ubuntu 8.10 | 11:06 |
| asac | britta_: how do you install it? | 11:12 |
| britta_ | the console. sudo apt-get install thunderbird lightning | 11:14 |
| britta_ | asac: + copied my old mozilla thunderbird folder into the new installation. | 11:14 |
| asac | britta_: go to tools -> addons in thunderbird ... check whether "uninstall" isavailable for lightning there | 11:15 |
| asac | if so uninstall | 11:15 |
| britta_ | asac: I can't even see lightning there - which could be the explanation. | 11:16 |
| britta_ | Just tried installing agina, but am told that lightning is already the latest version | 11:17 |
| britta_ | agina = again | 11:17 |
| asac | britta_: stop tbird and try to sudo touch /usr/lib/thunderbird/.autoreg | 11:18 |
| asac | then run again | 11:18 |
| britta_ | asac: by stop thunderbird you mean close it? | 11:19 |
| asac | j | 11:19 |
| asac | yes | 11:19 |
| britta_ | asac: still nothing there. I did sudo touch /usr/lib/thunderbird/.autoreg. it just went to a new prompt. | 11:20 |
| asac | you have to restart thunderbird ... if that doesnt help move your profile away and see if it works with new profile | 11:21 |
| asac | britta_: ^^ | 11:22 |
| britta_ | asac: will try that and be back. Thansk | 11:22 |
| * asac runs memcheck ... bbl | 11:23 | |
| britta_ | asac: I hope you see this. For some reason it didn't work, but I downloaded lightning and installed it through tools ->ad ons. Now it works. Strange... Thanks a lot for your help. | 11:43 |
| huayra | can I ask about mozilla plugins in this channel? | 12:38 |
| huayra | I have an issue with hardy and gnash on PPC | 12:38 |
| huayra | and I would like to solve it :) | 12:38 |
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