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freddydeaprivs for /var/lib/mythtv is fine, as recording by pressing R when watching a live stream works fine, just scheduling is broke. As for the logs, there isn't enough info sadly.00:08
oobefreddydea, post your mythbackend.log in pastebin me or someone else here may find somthing00:46
freddydeaok, will have to be tomorrow - thanks for the help00:53
cannmorning07:48
weoh_Is it normal for mythvideo to take 10-15 seconds to play a video?08:34
weohIs it normal for mythvideo(mplayer) to take 10-15 seconds to load a video?08:38
weohI read somewhere that disabling the screensaver disabler, but that didn't work.08:45
weoher... I mean, I read somewhere that disabling that feature, would speed up the loading times, but it didn't08:46
oobeweoh, 10 to 15 is a bit slow08:59
jbebelHas anyone seen mythfrontend get started twice on login?09:00
jbebelOne is coming from xfce's autostarted apps, but I don't know where the other one comes from.09:00
weohI had mythfrontend start twice, It was added to xfce's autostart apps, when i logged out and saved the session with mythtv open09:03
weohclose both mythfrontend's, save sesion while logging out, was what returned it to normal for me09:04
jbebelOk.  I'll give that a shot.  Thanks.09:05
weohGlad to help09:05
weohis it a problem with ubuntu's codebase?  my wife's computer running linuxMint has similar issues with starting videos, but with totem instead09:06
hadsNo09:06
weohproblem being taking 10-15 seconds to start playing a video09:06
weohI thought it might be because i'm playing them from an NFS server, but if the file is local, same problem happens09:08
jbebelThat seems to work.  Though I'm puzzled where that autostart information was stored.09:11
jbebelI still see the entry in ~/.config/autostart/mythtv.desktop09:12
jbebelBut apparently there's some other repository of programs which should be auto-started.09:12
jbebelAh.  I now believe it to be stored in .cache/sessions. That makes more sense.09:20
weohcool, i was looking for that too09:22
weohthanks09:22
jbebelnp09:22
jbebelI'm still confused by the list the xfce settings manager shows for autostarted apps.09:24
jbebelIt shows a combination of things in .config/autostart, and some but not all things in .cache/sessions, and then a couple other things that I still can't explain.09:25
jbebelOh.  those things are coming from /etc/xdg/autostart.09:27
weohWhat would cause mplayer to take so long to load?09:41
weohI figured it out, it was trying to load pulse audio, so i just added -ao alsa, and boom, it loads in half a second09:54
weohso it was because of ubuntu's upstream10:00
andrew[andrboot]Hi anywone alive?12:48
andrew[andrboot]I have usb logitech speakers, they work with my tv fine.. (mythubuntu ) but i can't watch videos/listen to music at all.. its on /dev/vb1 atm.. any ideas12:49
EnoxAnyone on to help with a "Not ivtv ???" problem?  It's a fresh myth install and I've never been able to get it to work.  Posted on the forums to no avail.14:29
rhpot1991Enox: specify your actual issue14:31
EnoxSure 1 sec14:32
EnoxWhen I watch live tv(try) I get a black screen for about 6 seconds then it drops back to main myth screen.  In the backend log I get "Changing from None to WatchingLiveTV" "HW Tuner 1->1" "Not ivtv driver???" (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6572560#post6572560)14:34
EnoxThen I get some Input/output errors.  But I think the main issue is the ivtv driver error.14:34
EnoxIt's more or less a pristine install.14:35
rhpot1991sounds like you have your card setup incorrectly14:38
rhpot1991like you told mythtv it uses ivtv when it doesn't14:38
EnoxMy card setup is in that post.  it's a HVR-1600 and setup as MPEG-2 encoder card14:38
EnoxIt didn't auto-detect /dev/video0, but when I put it in it was probed properly.14:38
EnoxWhat should I set up the card as?  From what I've read MPEG-2 is it14:38
EnoxIs there a way to tell it to not use ivtv ?14:43
Enoxhttp://www.mythtv.org/wiki/Hauppauge_HVR-1600 -- Says there's a ivtv driver for the MPEG-2 encoder.14:44
sk7can I get mythtv support the 3dfx voodoo3 3500 tv tuner? reason: I have 2 hauppauge cards that I have been using with vista and I am wondering if I can setup an old p4 3ghz as a dedicated tuner box to record to my nas and stream to my xbmc boxes16:11
sk7does the mythtv backend have a pxe server that will boot xbmc?16:31
neoneddyit has some XMBC support I do know that16:32
sk7my idea...my brain hurts... but what I am thinking in my ideal world... my 4tb nas using iscsi boots a mythtv server and has a iscsi drive for shows recorded from my mythtv.... I read a post about someone having a xbox that is nfs diskless.. I would like to have this for each of the kids rooms for them to wach movies too...and then the master bedroom and movie rooms have pxe boot core2duo machines that run xmbc for hd streaming16:37
MythbuntuGuest96is there a way to make "fill screen"  persitant for playback of all movies?17:11
oobeMythbuntuGuest96, you mean in mplayer17:47
oobethe default mplayer command should have -fs if you mean internal it should fill screen already but you can change the default half zoom full zoom etc. in setup / utilies / tv settings / playback17:49
oobei wont answer guest nicks anymore17:54
danict82hi all, i need help with a fresh installation of mythtv and ubuntu 8.1018:29
danict82the frontend freeze with a text telling "an error occurred while displaying video"18:29
danict82i downloaded me-tv and it works flawless18:30
danict82is there a way to test the backend with other programs?18:30
neoneddy_ anyone else have the antec fusion black case with teh VFD?19:55
rhpot1991!antec%black19:57
ZinnIf you are having trouble setting up the LCD on the Antec Fusion v2 Black or its other integrated devices, check out this Wiki Article: http://wiki.foxmediasystems.com/index.php/Antec_Fusion_v2_Black_LCD19:57
rhpot1991neoneddy_: ^19:58
neoneddy_problem with al lthese guides are I hear conflicting reports, like the new version of 8.10 doesn't need any LCDproc patches19:59
neoneddy_great guide though..20:01
neoneddy_I recocnize every step.. from many posts20:01
neoneddy_I'll ahve to try the last few things20:01
neoneddy_the IR reciever works.. the VFD / LCD is what's not working20:01
pteaguei just had a power outtage... ups ran out on my server or the wireless router before i could connect via my laptop & shut it down... logged in via ssh & it says next recording in: never ... >_<20:54
tgm4883_laptoppteague, you probably need to fix your tables20:55
tgm4883_laptopcommon problem if you cut power to your mysql server20:55
pteaguek20:55
neoneddy_my 4 year old thinks it's great fun to hit the blue glowing button on mine..20:57
neoneddy_I've never had corrupted stuff20:57
tgm4883_laptopneoneddy_, does it shutdown gracefully or instant power off?20:57
neoneddy_instant off sometimes... as the power and reset both glow and are fun to push20:57
tgm4883_laptopah20:59
tgm4883_laptopIIRC, the mysql server might have to be in the middle of doing something for it to matter.  I haven't the details on it, but a table fix is in order for pteague20:59
neoneddy_Well know that MythTV is put to the test with my Son's requests for shows over and over again the ahrdware abuse as well21:01
pteaguegoogle is your friend ... i can just never remember the 'myisamchk' for which to google on ;)21:01
pteaguelol21:01
pteaguei'm wanting to get a couple more hard drives & put a raid together for more space for recordings... plus i'm thinking of going hi-def, but i'll need something better than the pvr-500 i think? plus i need a better mini-itx board for my frontend21:02
tgm4883_laptopyou should be able to do the table fix from mythweb21:03
pteaguecrap... maybe that is a good security measure though...  amarok & mythconverg directories only have permissions set for the mysql user & nothing is set for the group... the mysql database however has perms set for user, group, & other21:04
neoneddy_I've been using HD Homerun for HD, works nice21:04
rhpot1991neoneddy_: that it does21:04
tgm4883_laptopIIRC, the HDHomerun is on sale right now21:04
rhpot1991newegg has it for 14021:04
rhpot1991with the email promo code21:04
neoneddy_a single 700gb drive for recordings, and then a drobo on the network for movies and music21:04
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: loves drobos21:04
pteagueplus my 2nd tuner on the pvr-500 has certain shows that it refuses to allow the 2nd tuner to work on... which means re-recording later on tuner 1... if there's a replay >_<21:04
tgm4883_laptop13921:05
tgm4883_laptop!stab rhpot199121:05
* Zinn stabs rhpot1991 with a sharpened mce remote.21:05
rhpot1991heh21:05
rhpot1991tgm4883_laptop: I rounded up21:05
pteaguenot sure if i have mythweb installed, what port is it on?21:05
rhpot1991default apache21:05
rhpot1991normally 8021:05
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991, I actually think I might eventually get a drobo21:05
neoneddy_mythweb should work out of the box21:05
tgm4883_laptopor not21:05
rhpot1991localhost/mythweb21:06
pteagueah, what directory then? ...  http://server/mythweb ?21:06
pteaguek21:06
neoneddy_jsut don't set a password21:06
neoneddy_yup21:06
pteaguehey, it's installed & seems to be working21:06
neoneddy_unless something got fixed, setting a password screws things up al laround21:06
* tgm4883_laptop has a password on his21:06
rhpot1991so do I21:07
tgm4883_laptopdon't know what it is supposed to mess up though21:07
pteagueok, mythweb says there's shows to be recorded21:07
rhpot1991there were some random bugs around on that though so our password may be from before that or something21:07
pteaguethere we go, maybe motd didn't get updated21:07
rhpot1991pteague: mythtv-status?21:08
pteagueyeah21:08
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991, I'm sorry, but neweggs valentines day sale is hilarious  http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16896630001&nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL020309&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL020309-_-PersonalCare-_-LE3A-_-9663000121:09
tgm4883_laptopthat cracks me up21:10
tgm4883_laptop"hand massager"21:10
pteaguei'm getting an "Unknown option: guide-data-warn" & it says use --help for help... but '--guide-data-warn <days>' is listed in --help21:12
neoneddy_Question: anyone tried burning dvds from this?.. is it still burning PAL ?21:19
rhpot1991pteague: if you said anything after I said about the symlink, I didn't get it21:21
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991, you said something about a symlink?21:26
tgm4883_laptoprhpot1991, last thing  <rhpot1991> pteague: mythtv-status?21:27
rhpot1991there is some bug on that where it doesn't update if you don't have a /root/.mythtv/config.xml linked to a working config.xml21:29
rhpot1991is what shoulda came though21:29
rhpot1991having interweb problems here it seems21:29
pteaguei'm getting an "Unknown option: guide-data-warn" & it says use --help for help... but '--guide-data-warn <days>' is listed in --help21:29
pteagueso i'd plug that hd homerun into my backend?21:35
neoneddy_just into the network21:35
neoneddy_then add it as a tuner21:36
neoneddy_https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HDHomeRun  on 8.10 you cna skip it all and jump down to setting up mythtv21:36
rhpot1991my only complaint about the HDHR is its not very intuitive setting up the channels21:37
rhpot1991could be because I was using a cable listing for them21:38
neoneddy_that guide I posted helps quite a bit21:38
pteaguei'm using what's it called for us listings for mythtv21:38
neoneddy_I agree... but linux and intuitive don't really belong in the same sentance, although I can only hope that changes21:38
rhpot1991schedules direct pteague ?21:39
rhpot1991also silicondust has a page that lists local channels21:39
rhpot1991http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun/channels21:39
pteaguei believe so... had to pay some small amount for a year... kind of annoying, but not that big a deal & not that expensive considering other non-mythtv routes21:40
rhpot1991$20 a year or something it is, and trust me its well worth it21:41
rhpot1991their support is great if you ever need to deal with it21:41
pteagueor maybe it was zap2it21:41
rhpot1991zap2it was the old listings, before it went away21:41
pteagueah21:41
rhpot1991the free ones21:42
pteaguei think i'll wait on the hdhr until i get the other stuff set up... need more hard drive space first...21:43
pteagueoh, any idea if mythtv can play the mkv files?21:44
neoneddy_I use mkv's21:45
neoneddy_they work great, however I had been running 8.04 then upgraded to 8.10  ... then  Igot an HDTV and started getting HD rips in MKV, I then noticed some, not all MKV files played funny, slow,  etc.   This last weekend I installed fresh 8.10 and all seems well21:46
pteaguejust put them in the /var/lib/mythtv/videos directory?21:46
neoneddy_yup21:47
neoneddy_you should ahve network access via SMB21:47
pteaguenfs ;)21:47
neoneddy_like a windows share, my OS X machiens see it as a windows machine21:47
rhpot1991IIRC xine/mplayer might like them better than internal player, don't know for sure though21:48
pteaguei'm thinking i may use nfs to pull them from my file server as that's where they currently are...21:48
pteaguei've been using kaffiene on my desktop21:48
neoneddy_Yeah, mplayer was sued to play the MKVs when internal didn't work right.. but I like the consistancy of internal21:48
neoneddy_for all it's problems friends and Family find the myth tv amazing.21:48
pteaguethen again if my friend will ever post the anime she's doing with voice overs instead of subtitles it might make more since on my frontend21:50
neoneddy_being a nerd and all I never got into Anime ... Titan AE is as close as I got *ducks*21:51
pteaguemy mom keeps asking about how to get the computer to record shows... i told her she may want to go with a pvr instead depending on what she wants to do with it... i tend to move around & i hate having 5 things on the pvr i've not seen yet & have to return it... not to mention missed stuff due to schedule & such until new pvr gets set up21:52
neoneddy_Any Tivo is the way to go.21:53
pteaguehonestly it depends on what kind of anime people get exposed to... the average person thinks it's like dragonball Z (which it is anime, but not *good* anime - it's a kids cartoon!) ...21:53
pteagueconsidering cartoons started off being for adults & then as the audience matured the 'adult cartoons' in western culture were shown to kids... & then kids cartoons started appearing21:54
* rhpot1991 enjoys witchhunter robin and case closed21:54
pteaguewhere as in japan animation has become an artform & there's a lot larger of a range... it's just the average person in US market isn't ready for 'kids cartoons' & so that's mostly what we get here :(21:55
neoneddy_I can't watch Saturday Morning Cartoons anymore... my wife and I tried to a few years ago... it's all this goofy card game based cartoons marketing the retail card games.  I like classics like Reboot, Rug Rats, Duck Tales, JI Joe, I guess I'm old.21:55
pteaguewitch hunter robin ftw :)21:55
pteagueneoneddy_: that's what i'm referring to as most people's exposure... i'm not sure that the average kid would understand stuff like witch hunter robin...21:56
neoneddy_probably not.21:57
pteague& then of course you've got cowboy bebop - main characters smoke, black lagoon - don't get me started, etc that wouldn't even make it to the "safe for kids" tv ratings21:57
* neoneddy_ is lost21:58
pteaguehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_Hunter_Robin - kids could watch it, but the questions posed would probably be lost on them21:59
rhpot1991agreed21:59
pteaguehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cowboy_Bebop - again, kids could watch it, but main characters smoke, they shoot things, etc ...  not "safe for kids" here in USA21:59
pteaguehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Lagoon - what part of this mercenary smuggling company would be safe for kids?  they do all sorts of things for the various crime syndicates in the fictional city including russian mafia, yakuza, you get the idea22:01
pteaguegranted, kids could watch it for the action i guess...22:01
pteagueneoneddy_: i guess my point is anime isn't just saturday morning cartoons... anime in general covers a wide range of things... it'd be like saying i don't like watching live action tv shows cause i can't stand watching mr rogers22:05
neoneddy_my comment wasn't against Anime.. it was against the  crap on saturday morning now... I suppose my childhood shows were crap too, and I only deny it because they are a part of my childhood.  But I mean, transformers?  not beast wars, but the old Optimus Prime stuff?22:07
pteaguehehe, oh that way... yeah, i agree22:07
pteaguethen again... have you watched any episodes of the old night rider now that you're grown up ?22:08
neoneddy_Yeah... but McGyver still holds cred with me22:09
neoneddy_true story I used a McGyver hack to fix my stereo receiver... still works, it's a 5.1 pro logic receiver, I blew the fuse in it, so I wrapped the fuse with metal foil, stuck it back in... still works to this day.22:10
pteaguehehe, macgyver ftw :)22:11
pteaguea friend of mine even watched the stargate tv series even though he doesn't like the genre... simply because macgyver was in it22:11
rhpot1991transformers was great and still is great, I don't care what anyone says :)22:12
neoneddy_Stargate the movie was good...  I never got intot eh series22:12
rhpot1991but not that new destruction of my child hood movie version, that is crap22:12
pteagueit was kind of cool to see a live action version, but iirc they made lots of changes to the characters22:13
rhpot1991pteague: exactly22:13
rhpot1991plus it wasn't even about transformers, they were random side characters22:13
rhpot1991heck weren't even characters at that22:13
pteaguei think i got into the stargate series cause i like watching sci-fi series & there was no star trek at the time... unless that was during "enterprise"... in which case they kept moving the night enterprise was around & by the time it landed at the same time frame as stargate i had already missed so much of it it wasn't worth dropping stargate22:14
neoneddy_and this where I cna bring it back on-topic..  MythTV  or any DVR fixes the programming schedule issues :-)22:15
pteaguesorry for the divergence ;)22:16
pteaguewhat language is used for mythweb ?22:18
rhpot1991php mostly, but I think there is some perl as well22:19
pteague& you guys said something about a password on it?22:21
neoneddy_yeah you're better off doing it by hand with a .htaccess file.. the utility in mtyh config fubars it22:28
pteagueok, it seems there's a really big problem with mythtv weather... 6 day forecast for kansas city downtown airport for tomorrow... low 23F, high 61F ...  61F ??22:45
pteagueor at least under mythweb22:45
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