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maxbEagleScreen: Yes, 0.13 is newer than 0.400:27
maxbEagleScreen: When you build a package, it builds in a minimal environment - you have to declare Build-Depends in the control file to get anything beyond that limited subset00:28
EagleScreeni will review Build-Depends00:32
psycosehi, using the LP PPA, the following Makefile command @echo -e $(GPR_PROD) >> gnatgpr.prod  executed via the debian/rules script displays "-e" in the file instead of undestanding the echo -e option !! when i build the package on my system i don't have this behaviour any tips ? thanks00:33
RAOFpsycose: -e isn't POSIX shell; the PPA build environment has /bin/sh set to dash, which doesn't implement -e00:39
psycoseRAOF: ok thanks fr the answer, i'm building again without it ... thanks00:40
RAOFYou could call /usr/bin/printf, or somesuch, if you really need to use the escape characters.00:40
EagleScreenthis is the debian/control file http://pastebin.ca/132673000:47
EagleScreeni am only rebuilding a .deb the package to can install it in Ubuntu from ppa, it is a pacakage from Guadalinex v5, based on Ubuntu Hardy.00:49
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rdancerwhich key server can i use to upload the PGP keys? keyserver.ubuntu.com gives an error00:58
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EagleScreenis it possible to upload packages for Debian sid/unstable to a ppa?01:46
vadi2Is there a page that explains what PPAs are?02:15
vadi2Only found one that explains how to get started with one... hoping to have a resource to point to for users who haven't heard of them02:15
EagleScreenshouldn't ppa build system satisfy build-deps that are in Ubuntu repository automatically?02:19
jameshEagleScreen: if your package lists the dependencies it should, yes.02:35
EagleScreeni have a package that fails and it has build-deps in debian/control02:37
jameshwhat is the build URL?02:38
EagleScreenare you meaning the log?02:40
EagleScreenthis is my ppa https://launchpad.net/~eaglescreen/+archive/ppa02:40
EagleScreenas you can see mount-systray - 0.4-1guada2ubuntu1~ppa1  failed to build02:41
jameshwas thinking of a page like https://launchpad.net/~eaglescreen/+archive/ppa/+build/85728002:41
jameshthe error in the log file says it couldn't find gnome-doc-utils02:43
jameshdoes your package build depend on it?02:44
EagleScreenlet me see02:45
EagleScreenjamesh look http://pastebin.ca/132679102:47
mrooneyIs there a good way to figure out which of my PPAs are failing to find public keys?02:47
mrooneyFor example if I have 10 and apt-get gives 4 errors (then suggests running apt-get to fix it :), I don't know which 4 those are02:48
jameshEagleScreen: you don't have gnome-doc-utils in Build-Depends, and that is the error in your log file, so I'd try adding it.02:48
EagleScreenthat package is not listed in build-deps, but that package is build in another distribution with this control file02:48
EagleScreeni am only porting it to Ubuntu from an distirbution based on Ubuntu hardy02:49
EagleScreeni havent done any change in the control file02:49
jameshEagleScreen: perhaps gnome-doc-utils is a dependency of one of those other packages on Debian02:49
EagleScreenthen now on intrepid one of these build-deps depends on gnome-doc-utils inst it?02:51
jameshEagleScreen: Intrepid is based on a Debian unstable snapshot from more than six months ago, so it isn't too surprising if you find some changes.02:51
EagleScreeni used to think that dependences of dependences was resolved02:52
EagleScreennow i see that not for build-depends02:52
jameshexplicitly build-depending on gnome-doc-utils should solve your immediate problem.02:52
EagleScreeni will include it, thanks02:53
jameshmrooney: are you talking about warnings from apt about unknown repo signing keys?02:55
EagleScreeni have the same problem of signing keys with my ppa02:57
EagleScreenand also with the ppa of packagekit team02:57
mrooneyjamesh: yeah02:57
mrooneyjamesh: I understand why (new signed PPAs) but I don't understand how I am easily supposed to figure out which ones and then easily get them02:58
jameshmrooney: the launchpad page for the PPA should tell you.02:58
jameshso for example, if you have http://ppa.launchpad.net/bzr/ubuntu in your sources.list, look at https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive02:59
mrooneyjamesh: yeah, my question was "easily" :)02:59
jameshyou can see which keys you've installed with "sudo apt-key list"02:59
mrooneyI have to translate that for 10 PPAs and manually review it02:59
mrooneydo you know if there are any plans to make this process easier in the future? I am not worried about myself so much but this is already confusing tons of people online, and I worry it will hurt the number of people able to use my PPA03:01
jameshmrooney: you could just import all the keys corresponding to "NO_PUBKEY" errors from "aptitude update"03:01
jameshif you trust your network connection03:01
mrooneyhmm03:01
mrooneyubuntu needs apt-ppa:// links or something :)03:02
mrooneyAnyway it just feels like the number of steps to use a PPA doubled03:03
EagleScreenjamesh look http://pastebin.ca/132681203:04
jameshEagleScreen: looks like those warning lines have been truncated03:08
jameshEagleScreen: they should continue to tell you which public key is missing03:08
EagleScreenNO_PUBKEY 9BFC84D3205358CF and NO_PUBKEY 01E3FE37B30386B103:09
jameshso load those keys into apt's keyring?03:09
EagleScreenit can be done with software-properties?03:11
jameshhttps://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories has instructions (and is linked from each PPA page)03:12
kriyas1how to checkout in bzr04:56
spivbzr checkout URL04:57
RAOFkriyas1: This depends; generally you want to do something like "bzr branch <something>", where something is either a url, an existing local branch (directory), or some other spec, like "lp:do-plugins"04:57
RAOFIf you know the difference between checkout and branch, and know you want checkout, then spiv's answer is more correct ;)04:58
spivkriyas1: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/ might help you05:00
error404notfoundhi!05:35
error404notfoundcan someone tell me how can I create a private bzr team branch?05:35
spivjml: ^05:35
jmlerror404notfound: you need to chat with bac, who can sort you out.05:36
jmlerror404notfound: at this time of day, it's best to email him.05:36
error404notfoundany idea around what time he comes online?05:37
thumperUS eastern time05:37
error404notfoundyes, but what time, 10am? 3pm? :P05:37
thumpererror404notfound: day time05:38
error404notfoundhmm, okay, lemme do some calculation, in a mean while can someone pm me him email adress? coz I can't find it in his /whois05:39
thumperhttps://launchpad.net/~bac (at a guess)05:39
error404notfoundaahhhh, its still 10 hours for him to wake up, I guess I'll email him. Thanks guys..05:40
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error404notfoundhttps://staging.launchpad.net/ is getting a cleanup or its down?06:02
jmlspm: ^^06:07
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maxbSome recent hppa builds have failed to upload with a "Duplicated ancestry" assertion failure. What does that mean?09:39
IntuitiveNippleIs there any way to upload apport bug reports using HTTP (not HTTPS) so as to analyse a problem during the upload that causes it to fail?10:03
NCommanderhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~michael-owens/phoronix-test-suite/motu/files - anyone know why I can't access this?10:34
TeTeTwhen using launchpadlib, how do I use edge instead of staging?10:49
TeTeThmm, it's in the doc, silly me10:51
TeTeTSTAGING_SERVICE_ROOT with EDGE_SERVICE_ROOT10:51
jpdsNCommander: Hmm, I can.10:55
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kiko-afkNCommander, what happens when you load it?12:36
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snikkeri've a problem with wron package signature (gpg) in ppa, can you help me?13:56
snikker*wrong13:57
AlexC_snikker, you're best off actually asking your question13:58
snikkerAlexC_:  i'm tring to install digikam package from ppa, i've add the gpg key to my keyring, but the package manager say thet it's ot authenticated....14:02
snikker*it's not authenticated14:02
AlexC_snikker, I can't help unfortunately, was just helping to get better help =)14:03
snikkerAlexC_:  oh, ok... i hope that someone can help me :)14:03
maxbAlexC_: You need to re-run 'apt-get update' after adding a key, I think14:09
maxboops14:09
maxbsnikker: ^14:09
AlexC_=)14:09
snikkermaxb: i'e update the list with the refresh button in synaptic... it should be the same thing...14:15
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error404notfoundbac: there?14:17
bacerror404notfound: hi14:17
error404notfoundbac: hi! how are you?14:17
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bacerror404notfound: fine thanks.14:18
error404notfoundbac: in the morning, infact mid-night according to your time, I ask here that is it possible to create a private team branch, and people told me to contact you, I emailed you from launchpadm wondering if you have something new for me...14:19
bacerror404notfound: i was just replying to your email, in fact14:19
error404notfoundbac: hmmm, guess I willw ait for the reply :D14:19
error404notfoundbac: thanks..14:19
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bacsnikker: are you still having trouble?14:22
bacsnikker: adding the key to *your* keyring is not enough.  you have to use 'apt-key' to add it to the keyring apt uses14:23
snikkerbac: yes i've do it...14:23
snikkerbac: i've used this command:   gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys BF860D3661FBBBA575BE617F0BF0F083E353B3E9 && gpg --export -a BF860D3661FBBBA575BE617F0BF0F083E353B3E9 | sudo apt-key add -14:24
bacsnikker: that looks right, assuming the key is the correct one.  if you do 'sudo apt-key list' do you see it?14:24
snikkerbak: the key is taken from ppa digikam page....  after "sudo apt-key list", i can see the digikam key14:26
snikkerbac: ^14:26
bacsnikker: if the key is properly added to apt-key, you14:28
bacand you've run 'sudo apt-get update', then it *should* work.14:28
snikkerbac: i've tried also with 'sudo apt-get update', but with no result14:29
snikkerbac: i don't understand why it doesn't work...14:29
baccprov: perhaps you can help snikker?14:30
cprovsnikker: which ubuntu series are you using ?14:31
snikkercprov: 8.10 (intrepid)14:31
cprovsnikker: digikam PPA hasn't changed since we generated signing-keys, so their repo is not signed.14:35
snikkercprov: oh, i understand... thank you14:35
kikocprov, oh? we only sign repos that have changed?14:36
kikooh, I see14:36
kikothe keys are generated but we didn't republish?14:36
cprovkiko: yes14:36
kikocprov, can we republish or too much work?14:36
cprovkiko: not too much work on our side, but it would trigger updates on all users14:37
snikkercprov: but here http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xBF860D3661FBBBA575BE617F0BF0F083E353B3E9&op=index  say that the key was publushed the same day of the pakage, i'm wrong?14:38
cprovsnikker: publication happens around 20:00 UTC that day14:40
snikkercprov: and the key was generated before...14:42
cprovsnikker: let me trigger the PPA updates, so we can check if the key is really working14:44
snikkercprov: ok, thanks14:44
cprovsnikker: how to you see the exact timestamp for key generation14:48
snikkercprov: i can't see the exact timespamp, only the date14:49
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cprovsnikker: yeah, me too, annoying.14:51
cprovsnikker: the PPA will be republished in 8 minutes.14:52
baccprov: thanks for your help.  i learned a lot...14:54
snikkercprov: great, thank you! :)14:54
cprovsnikker: np, you're welcome. Let's see if it will work14:54
snikkercprov: ok14:54
sinzuime15:08
snikkercprov: now it work! thank again :)15:11
pktmrevell: ping15:38
mrevellhi pkt15:38
pkthi15:38
pktI just received a mail from you about my ppa size15:38
pktI 'd like to ask: how do I know the total size?15:39
pkt(without expanding every package separately and adding the sizes manually if possible :-)15:39
RainCTHi15:40
RainCTHow can I delete a team?15:40
mrevellpkt it should say it on the PPA overview page15:41
mrevellRainCT: You need to make a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad15:41
RainCTmrevell: urg :P. Thanks15:41
mrevellnp15:42
pktmrevell: it says: "Package counters and estimated archive size temporarily unavailable"15:42
mrevellpkt: Let me ask cprov about that ^^^^^^15:42
pktBtw, my ppa is a "semi-service" to the community to be honest15:43
pktMany of the packages there cannot be found anywhere else (to my knowledge), like eclipse, mysql-workbench and gdb-python15:44
pktBut I cannot make any guarantees that everything will be working at all times15:44
mrevellpkt: Cool, sounds great. You're not at the limit right now. AFAICS you're at 962 MB, so you're close. Do you plan to add more soon?15:48
pktNot sure yet15:49
pktBut it is quite possible15:49
pktI might add some kernel/virtualization stuff15:50
pktand/or some eclipse plugins or eclipse dependencies when I find some time15:51
pktmrevell: I deleted the superseeded version of mysql-workbench (about 200M total) so that should solve the problem for now15:56
mrevellpkt:  Cool :)15:56
rzr_pkt: let me thank you in person for eclipse-3.4 : I credited you on http://www.newlc.com/en/deb-packages-android-sdk-bleeding-edge-cupcake-images15:57
rzr_mrevell: thx for notifying me , I am doing some effort in cleaning obsolete stuff15:57
pktrzr_: you are most welcome :-)15:58
rzr_pkt: btw about ppa's size it's writen in upload mail alert IICR15:58
rzr_mrevell: PPA is in thanks part too on the same url :)15:59
pktIt was indeed written in a rejection mail I got a while ago, but not in the mail I got a while ago15:59
pktoops15:59
pkt'but not in the mail I got a few minutes ago'16:00
pktanyway, have to leave now (busy afternoon). Nice talking to you guys :-)16:00
rzr_pkt: while you're here16:01
rzr_would you like to set up a eclipse team ?16:01
rzr_I have some subclipse plugin to giveaway16:01
rzr_the eclipse team already exists i think16:01
pktyes, it already exists16:02
pktI think it is open too16:02
pktIf I remember correctly it was started by nathan (aka rockwalrus)16:03
pktThere is another team as well (eclipsers?) but it seemingly never actually produced anything16:03
rzr_there is one guy who package some plugins too16:03
pktyes, I saw his comment in the bug16:04
rzr_what do you think about merging it all in a ppa ?16:04
pktfor now, the biggest problem for eclipse is to get the dependencies in16:04
rzr_yea i know16:04
pktthat wouldn't be such a bad idea :-)16:04
pktI 've been just too busy to bother16:05
pktanyway, anybody can copy packages between the ppas I think16:05
rzr_we'll talk about this later elsewhere ok :)16:06
pktcool, bye for now :-)16:06
rzr_bye16:06
rzr_mrevell: keep his ppa it worths it :)16:07
mrevellWe're not removing PPAs :) I'm just checking to see if people need more space16:07
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maxbooi, what became of primero?16:08
rzr_mrevell: well any more space would be welcomen but i can understand everything is limited16:09
mrevellrzr_: I'm happy to increase people's limits if they're making good community use of it :)16:09
rzr_well it's not up to us to decide if we're doing good or evil :)16:10
rzr_BTW, you should have stats of downloaded packages ?16:10
sidelilexcuse me is stagin.launchpad down at the moment?16:45
Goundysidelil no it's working for me16:45
sidelilGoundy, oh, I cannot connect now. I could 1 hour ago. :( I hope i did not do anything wrong, im trying to learn how to use it16:47
Goundysidelil you can't crash launchpad dude you're not the only person who's using it16:48
mrevellsidelil: It's offline at the moment. Should be back shortly.16:48
sidelilmrevell, ok thanks.16:48
Goundymrevell huh? what's offline? it works here16:49
mrevellGoundy: https://staging.launchpad.net/16:49
Goundymrevell https://launchpad.net/~auresdev ... it works16:50
Goundyweird16:50
mrevellGoundy: Yeah, that's not on staging :) Our staging server is temporarily offline.16:50
Goundystaging... oh... I ignored that word in his question I thought he made a mistake >_<16:50
Goundysorry !16:50
sidelilexcuse me, what can NOT be done in a project register on staging.launchpad that could be possible on a proper launchpad project? Basically, has it got restricted functionalities or is exactly the same? Does the staging project get deleted ater a while?16:52
Goundywhats the difference between staging.lp.net and lp.net ? I don't really get it16:53
sidelilBasically, can I just use normally staging for a few days, while i get used to launchpad?16:53
sidelilyes16:53
sidelilGoundy, im just asking whats the difference, eg if i would not be able to do some particular things on staging that i could do on normal lp16:54
Goundysidelil well I asked about the difference I have no idea on what staging.lp is16:54
Goundy^^16:54
sidelilGoundy, ah ok sorry! Staging is to try out lp as far as i know16:55
GoundyAh..16:55
GoundyI started using lp directly it's not so hard imho16:55
bacsidelil: changes made on staging get wiped out once a day (as a rule)16:55
GoundyI got to go now16:56
Goundysee you16:56
sidelilsee you16:56
sidelilbac, ok thanks that's exactly what i was looking for! Thanks!16:56
bacsidelil: any *real* work you want to do needs to be done on launchpad.net.  as mentioned earlier staging is for trying things out that won't be permanent.16:56
sidelilbac, yeah i got it! Thanks16:57
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maxbYay, hppa's back to two buildds :-)17:50
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lamalexhey guys, has anyone had time to look at lp 27003119:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 270031 in launchpad-buildd "Mono segfaults on amd64 PPA buildds" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27003119:55
baclamalex: i'm checking to see if any progress has been made.20:08
attilacyilmazlaris there anyone here from Ubuntu Netbook Remix Team??20:08
lamalexbac: thank you20:09
baclamalex: that bug has been marked invalid.  are you still seeing the problem?20:09
lamalexwhen was it marked invalid?20:09
lamalexon the bug, it's marked confirmed20:09
lamalexoh20:10
lamalexwtf20:10
lamalexit was confirmed 10 minutes ago20:10
lamalexwho marked it invalid20:10
baclamalex: 5 minutes ago, in response to my query20:10
lamalexheh20:10
lamalexthe 64bit packages build fine elsewhere20:10
baclamalex: read the final comment.  it seems to be a problem with mono, not the build environment20:10
lamalexincluding ubuntu main repos20:10
lamalexbac: our packager isn't around right now, I'm sure he'll have more to say about it than I do20:14
baclamalex: great, i can only suggest you and he add more information to the existing bug20:16
maxblamalex, bac: There is a different bug which identifies Xen as the cause20:16
maxbLP 23772420:17
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/237724/+text)20:17
maxbLP 23772420:17
ubottuLaunchpad bug 237724 in linux "linux-image-2.6.24-18-xen breaks mono" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23772420:17
lamalexmaxb: ahha, thank you20:21
lamalexshould LP 270031 be marked a dupe of LP 23772420:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 270031 in launchpad-buildd "Mono segfaults on amd64 PPA buildds" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/27003120:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 237724 in linux "linux-image-2.6.24-18-xen breaks mono" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23772420:21
* maxb was just trying to do that but Malone is being awkward20:22
bacthanks maxb20:22
maxbApparently you can't mark a bug as a duplicate if it itself has duplicates :-/20:23
* maxb has retargeted all the dupes at bug 237724 now20:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 237724 in linux "linux-image-2.6.24-18-xen breaks mono" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/23772420:26
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lamalexmaxb: yeah, I was going to file a bug on that duplicate thing20:31
lamalexit should automagically redirect the bugs20:32
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Demosthenescan i have launchpad generate a release tar.gz from the tagged branch it already has? it seems redundant to create that locally and upload.23:14
spivDemosthenes: not yet, but it would be nice if it could23:20
spivDemosthenes: file a bug for it23:20

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