[00:27] EagleScreen: Yes, 0.13 is newer than 0.4 [00:28] EagleScreen: When you build a package, it builds in a minimal environment - you have to declare Build-Depends in the control file to get anything beyond that limited subset [00:32] i will review Build-Depends [00:33] hi, using the LP PPA, the following Makefile command @echo -e $(GPR_PROD) >> gnatgpr.prod executed via the debian/rules script displays "-e" in the file instead of undestanding the echo -e option !! when i build the package on my system i don't have this behaviour any tips ? thanks [00:39] psycose: -e isn't POSIX shell; the PPA build environment has /bin/sh set to dash, which doesn't implement -e [00:40] RAOF: ok thanks fr the answer, i'm building again without it ... thanks [00:40] You could call /usr/bin/printf, or somesuch, if you really need to use the escape characters. [00:47] this is the debian/control file http://pastebin.ca/1326730 [00:49] i am only rebuilding a .deb the package to can install it in Ubuntu from ppa, it is a pacakage from Guadalinex v5, based on Ubuntu Hardy. === matsubara-dinner is now known as matsubara [00:58] which key server can i use to upload the PGP keys? keyserver.ubuntu.com gives an error === gary_poster changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: - | launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net [01:46] is it possible to upload packages for Debian sid/unstable to a ppa? [02:15] Is there a page that explains what PPAs are? [02:15] Only found one that explains how to get started with one... hoping to have a resource to point to for users who haven't heard of them [02:19] shouldn't ppa build system satisfy build-deps that are in Ubuntu repository automatically? [02:35] EagleScreen: if your package lists the dependencies it should, yes. [02:37] i have a package that fails and it has build-deps in debian/control [02:38] what is the build URL? [02:40] are you meaning the log? [02:40] this is my ppa https://launchpad.net/~eaglescreen/+archive/ppa [02:41] as you can see mount-systray - 0.4-1guada2ubuntu1~ppa1 failed to build [02:41] was thinking of a page like https://launchpad.net/~eaglescreen/+archive/ppa/+build/857280 [02:43] the error in the log file says it couldn't find gnome-doc-utils [02:44] does your package build depend on it? [02:45] let me see [02:47] jamesh look http://pastebin.ca/1326791 [02:47] Is there a good way to figure out which of my PPAs are failing to find public keys? [02:48] For example if I have 10 and apt-get gives 4 errors (then suggests running apt-get to fix it :), I don't know which 4 those are [02:48] EagleScreen: you don't have gnome-doc-utils in Build-Depends, and that is the error in your log file, so I'd try adding it. [02:48] that package is not listed in build-deps, but that package is build in another distribution with this control file [02:49] i am only porting it to Ubuntu from an distirbution based on Ubuntu hardy [02:49] i havent done any change in the control file [02:49] EagleScreen: perhaps gnome-doc-utils is a dependency of one of those other packages on Debian [02:51] then now on intrepid one of these build-deps depends on gnome-doc-utils inst it? [02:51] EagleScreen: Intrepid is based on a Debian unstable snapshot from more than six months ago, so it isn't too surprising if you find some changes. [02:52] i used to think that dependences of dependences was resolved [02:52] now i see that not for build-depends [02:52] explicitly build-depending on gnome-doc-utils should solve your immediate problem. [02:53] i will include it, thanks [02:55] mrooney: are you talking about warnings from apt about unknown repo signing keys? [02:57] i have the same problem of signing keys with my ppa [02:57] and also with the ppa of packagekit team [02:57] jamesh: yeah [02:58] jamesh: I understand why (new signed PPAs) but I don't understand how I am easily supposed to figure out which ones and then easily get them [02:58] mrooney: the launchpad page for the PPA should tell you. [02:59] so for example, if you have http://ppa.launchpad.net/bzr/ubuntu in your sources.list, look at https://launchpad.net/~bzr/+archive [02:59] jamesh: yeah, my question was "easily" :) [02:59] you can see which keys you've installed with "sudo apt-key list" [02:59] I have to translate that for 10 PPAs and manually review it [03:01] do you know if there are any plans to make this process easier in the future? I am not worried about myself so much but this is already confusing tons of people online, and I worry it will hurt the number of people able to use my PPA [03:01] mrooney: you could just import all the keys corresponding to "NO_PUBKEY" errors from "aptitude update" [03:01] if you trust your network connection [03:01] hmm [03:02] ubuntu needs apt-ppa:// links or something :) [03:03] Anyway it just feels like the number of steps to use a PPA doubled [03:04] jamesh look http://pastebin.ca/1326812 [03:08] EagleScreen: looks like those warning lines have been truncated [03:08] EagleScreen: they should continue to tell you which public key is missing [03:09] NO_PUBKEY 9BFC84D3205358CF and NO_PUBKEY 01E3FE37B30386B1 [03:09] so load those keys into apt's keyring? [03:11] it can be done with software-properties? [03:12] https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA#Adding%20a%20PPA%20to%20your%20Ubuntu%20repositories has instructions (and is linked from each PPA page) [04:56] how to checkout in bzr [04:57] bzr checkout URL [04:57] kriyas1: This depends; generally you want to do something like "bzr branch ", where something is either a url, an existing local branch (directory), or some other spec, like "lp:do-plugins" [04:58] If you know the difference between checkout and branch, and know you want checkout, then spiv's answer is more correct ;) [05:00] kriyas1: http://doc.bazaar-vcs.org/latest/ might help you [05:35] hi! [05:35] can someone tell me how can I create a private bzr team branch? [05:35] jml: ^ [05:36] error404notfound: you need to chat with bac, who can sort you out. [05:36] error404notfound: at this time of day, it's best to email him. [05:37] any idea around what time he comes online? [05:37] US eastern time [05:37] yes, but what time, 10am? 3pm? :P [05:38] error404notfound: day time [05:39] hmm, okay, lemme do some calculation, in a mean while can someone pm me him email adress? coz I can't find it in his /whois [05:39] https://launchpad.net/~bac (at a guess) [05:40] aahhhh, its still 10 hours for him to wake up, I guess I'll email him. Thanks guys.. === error404notfoun1 is now known as error404notfound [06:02] https://staging.launchpad.net/ is getting a cleanup or its down? [06:07] spm: ^^ === spm_ is now known as spm [09:39] Some recent hppa builds have failed to upload with a "Duplicated ancestry" assertion failure. What does that mean? [10:03] Is there any way to upload apport bug reports using HTTP (not HTTPS) so as to analyse a problem during the upload that causes it to fail? [10:34] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~michael-owens/phoronix-test-suite/motu/files - anyone know why I can't access this? [10:49] when using launchpadlib, how do I use edge instead of staging? [10:51] hmm, it's in the doc, silly me [10:51] STAGING_SERVICE_ROOT with EDGE_SERVICE_ROOT [10:55] NCommander: Hmm, I can. === bigjools-out is now known as bigjools === salgado-afk is now known as salgado [12:36] NCommander, what happens when you load it? === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === mrevell is now known as mrevell-lunch === bac changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: bac| launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde === mrevell-lunch is now known as mrevell [13:56] i've a problem with wron package signature (gpg) in ppa, can you help me? [13:57] *wrong [13:58] snikker, you're best off actually asking your question [14:02] AlexC_: i'm tring to install digikam package from ppa, i've add the gpg key to my keyring, but the package manager say thet it's ot authenticated.... [14:02] *it's not authenticated [14:03] snikker, I can't help unfortunately, was just helping to get better help =) [14:03] AlexC_: oh, ok... i hope that someone can help me :) [14:09] AlexC_: You need to re-run 'apt-get update' after adding a key, I think [14:09] oops [14:09] snikker: ^ [14:09] =) [14:15] maxb: i'e update the list with the refresh button in synaptic... it should be the same thing... === error404notfoun1 is now known as error404notfound [14:17] bac: there? [14:17] error404notfound: hi [14:17] bac: hi! how are you? === r0ny is now known as j0ny [14:18] error404notfound: fine thanks. [14:19] bac: in the morning, infact mid-night according to your time, I ask here that is it possible to create a private team branch, and people told me to contact you, I emailed you from launchpadm wondering if you have something new for me... [14:19] error404notfound: i was just replying to your email, in fact [14:19] bac: hmmm, guess I willw ait for the reply :D [14:19] bac: thanks.. === kiko-afk is now known as kiko [14:22] snikker: are you still having trouble? [14:23] snikker: adding the key to *your* keyring is not enough. you have to use 'apt-key' to add it to the keyring apt uses [14:23] bac: yes i've do it... [14:24] bac: i've used this command: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys BF860D3661FBBBA575BE617F0BF0F083E353B3E9 && gpg --export -a BF860D3661FBBBA575BE617F0BF0F083E353B3E9 | sudo apt-key add - [14:24] snikker: that looks right, assuming the key is the correct one. if you do 'sudo apt-key list' do you see it? [14:26] bak: the key is taken from ppa digikam page.... after "sudo apt-key list", i can see the digikam key [14:26] bac: ^ [14:28] snikker: if the key is properly added to apt-key, you [14:28] and you've run 'sudo apt-get update', then it *should* work. [14:29] bac: i've tried also with 'sudo apt-get update', but with no result [14:29] bac: i don't understand why it doesn't work... [14:30] cprov: perhaps you can help snikker? [14:31] snikker: which ubuntu series are you using ? [14:31] cprov: 8.10 (intrepid) [14:35] snikker: digikam PPA hasn't changed since we generated signing-keys, so their repo is not signed. [14:35] cprov: oh, i understand... thank you [14:36] cprov, oh? we only sign repos that have changed? [14:36] oh, I see [14:36] the keys are generated but we didn't republish? [14:36] kiko: yes [14:36] cprov, can we republish or too much work? [14:37] kiko: not too much work on our side, but it would trigger updates on all users [14:38] cprov: but here http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xBF860D3661FBBBA575BE617F0BF0F083E353B3E9&op=index say that the key was publushed the same day of the pakage, i'm wrong? [14:40] snikker: publication happens around 20:00 UTC that day [14:42] cprov: and the key was generated before... [14:44] snikker: let me trigger the PPA updates, so we can check if the key is really working [14:44] cprov: ok, thanks [14:48] snikker: how to you see the exact timestamp for key generation [14:49] cprov: i can't see the exact timespamp, only the date === sale_ is now known as sale [14:51] snikker: yeah, me too, annoying. [14:52] snikker: the PPA will be republished in 8 minutes. [14:54] cprov: thanks for your help. i learned a lot... [14:54] cprov: great, thank you! :) [14:54] snikker: np, you're welcome. Let's see if it will work [14:54] cprov: ok [15:08] me [15:11] cprov: now it work! thank again :) [15:38] mrevell: ping [15:38] hi pkt [15:38] hi [15:38] I just received a mail from you about my ppa size [15:39] I 'd like to ask: how do I know the total size? [15:39] (without expanding every package separately and adding the sizes manually if possible :-) [15:40] Hi [15:40] How can I delete a team? [15:41] pkt it should say it on the PPA overview page [15:41] RainCT: You need to make a request at https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad [15:41] mrevell: urg :P. Thanks [15:42] np [15:42] mrevell: it says: "Package counters and estimated archive size temporarily unavailable" [15:42] pkt: Let me ask cprov about that ^^^^^^ [15:43] Btw, my ppa is a "semi-service" to the community to be honest [15:44] Many of the packages there cannot be found anywhere else (to my knowledge), like eclipse, mysql-workbench and gdb-python [15:44] But I cannot make any guarantees that everything will be working at all times [15:48] pkt: Cool, sounds great. You're not at the limit right now. AFAICS you're at 962 MB, so you're close. Do you plan to add more soon? [15:49] Not sure yet [15:49] But it is quite possible [15:50] I might add some kernel/virtualization stuff [15:51] and/or some eclipse plugins or eclipse dependencies when I find some time [15:56] mrevell: I deleted the superseeded version of mysql-workbench (about 200M total) so that should solve the problem for now [15:56] pkt: Cool :) [15:57] pkt: let me thank you in person for eclipse-3.4 : I credited you on http://www.newlc.com/en/deb-packages-android-sdk-bleeding-edge-cupcake-images [15:57] mrevell: thx for notifying me , I am doing some effort in cleaning obsolete stuff [15:58] rzr_: you are most welcome :-) [15:58] pkt: btw about ppa's size it's writen in upload mail alert IICR [15:59] mrevell: PPA is in thanks part too on the same url :) [15:59] It was indeed written in a rejection mail I got a while ago, but not in the mail I got a while ago [15:59] oops [16:00] 'but not in the mail I got a few minutes ago' [16:00] anyway, have to leave now (busy afternoon). Nice talking to you guys :-) [16:01] pkt: while you're here [16:01] would you like to set up a eclipse team ? [16:01] I have some subclipse plugin to giveaway [16:01] the eclipse team already exists i think [16:02] yes, it already exists [16:02] I think it is open too [16:03] If I remember correctly it was started by nathan (aka rockwalrus) [16:03] There is another team as well (eclipsers?) but it seemingly never actually produced anything [16:03] there is one guy who package some plugins too [16:04] yes, I saw his comment in the bug [16:04] what do you think about merging it all in a ppa ? [16:04] for now, the biggest problem for eclipse is to get the dependencies in [16:04] yea i know [16:04] that wouldn't be such a bad idea :-) [16:05] I 've been just too busy to bother [16:05] anyway, anybody can copy packages between the ppas I think [16:06] we'll talk about this later elsewhere ok :) [16:06] cool, bye for now :-) [16:06] bye [16:07] mrevell: keep his ppa it worths it :) [16:07] We're not removing PPAs :) I'm just checking to see if people need more space === fawek_ is now known as fawek [16:08] ooi, what became of primero? [16:09] mrevell: well any more space would be welcomen but i can understand everything is limited [16:09] rzr_: I'm happy to increase people's limits if they're making good community use of it :) [16:10] well it's not up to us to decide if we're doing good or evil :) [16:10] BTW, you should have stats of downloaded packages ? [16:45] excuse me is stagin.launchpad down at the moment? [16:45] sidelil no it's working for me [16:47] Goundy, oh, I cannot connect now. I could 1 hour ago. :( I hope i did not do anything wrong, im trying to learn how to use it [16:48] sidelil you can't crash launchpad dude you're not the only person who's using it [16:48] sidelil: It's offline at the moment. Should be back shortly. [16:48] mrevell, ok thanks. [16:49] mrevell huh? what's offline? it works here [16:49] Goundy: https://staging.launchpad.net/ [16:50] mrevell https://launchpad.net/~auresdev ... it works [16:50] weird [16:50] Goundy: Yeah, that's not on staging :) Our staging server is temporarily offline. [16:50] staging... oh... I ignored that word in his question I thought he made a mistake >_< [16:50] sorry ! [16:52] excuse me, what can NOT be done in a project register on staging.launchpad that could be possible on a proper launchpad project? Basically, has it got restricted functionalities or is exactly the same? Does the staging project get deleted ater a while? [16:53] whats the difference between staging.lp.net and lp.net ? I don't really get it [16:53] Basically, can I just use normally staging for a few days, while i get used to launchpad? [16:53] yes [16:54] Goundy, im just asking whats the difference, eg if i would not be able to do some particular things on staging that i could do on normal lp [16:54] sidelil well I asked about the difference I have no idea on what staging.lp is [16:54] ^^ [16:55] Goundy, ah ok sorry! Staging is to try out lp as far as i know [16:55] Ah.. [16:55] I started using lp directly it's not so hard imho [16:55] sidelil: changes made on staging get wiped out once a day (as a rule) [16:56] I got to go now [16:56] see you [16:56] see you [16:56] bac, ok thanks that's exactly what i was looking for! Thanks! [16:56] sidelil: any *real* work you want to do needs to be done on launchpad.net. as mentioned earlier staging is for trying things out that won't be permanent. [16:57] bac, yeah i got it! Thanks === rzr_ is now known as ZrZ [17:50] Yay, hppa's back to two buildds :-) === mrevell is now known as mrevell-dinner === deryck is now known as deryck[lunch] === deryck[lunch] is now known as deryck === vacationlogger is now known as apachelogger [19:55] hey guys, has anyone had time to look at lp 270031 [19:55] Launchpad bug 270031 in launchpad-buildd "Mono segfaults on amd64 PPA buildds" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270031 [20:08] lamalex: i'm checking to see if any progress has been made. [20:08] is there anyone here from Ubuntu Netbook Remix Team?? [20:09] bac: thank you [20:09] lamalex: that bug has been marked invalid. are you still seeing the problem? [20:09] when was it marked invalid? [20:09] on the bug, it's marked confirmed [20:10] oh [20:10] wtf [20:10] it was confirmed 10 minutes ago [20:10] who marked it invalid [20:10] lamalex: 5 minutes ago, in response to my query [20:10] heh [20:10] the 64bit packages build fine elsewhere [20:10] lamalex: read the final comment. it seems to be a problem with mono, not the build environment [20:10] including ubuntu main repos [20:14] bac: our packager isn't around right now, I'm sure he'll have more to say about it than I do [20:16] lamalex: great, i can only suggest you and he add more information to the existing bug [20:16] lamalex, bac: There is a different bug which identifies Xen as the cause [20:17] LP 237724 [20:17] Error: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/237724/+text) [20:17] LP 237724 [20:17] Launchpad bug 237724 in linux "linux-image-2.6.24-18-xen breaks mono" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/237724 [20:21] maxb: ahha, thank you [20:21] should LP 270031 be marked a dupe of LP 237724 [20:21] Launchpad bug 270031 in launchpad-buildd "Mono segfaults on amd64 PPA buildds" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/270031 [20:21] Launchpad bug 237724 in linux "linux-image-2.6.24-18-xen breaks mono" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/237724 [20:22] * maxb was just trying to do that but Malone is being awkward [20:22] thanks maxb [20:23] Apparently you can't mark a bug as a duplicate if it itself has duplicates :-/ [20:26] * maxb has retargeted all the dupes at bug 237724 now [20:26] Launchpad bug 237724 in linux "linux-image-2.6.24-18-xen breaks mono" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/237724 === salgado is now known as salgado-afk [20:31] maxb: yeah, I was going to file a bug on that duplicate thing [20:32] it should automagically redirect the bugs === spiv_ is now known as spiv === bac changed the topic of #launchpad to: https://launchpad.net/ | Channel logs: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Help contact: -| launchpad-users@lists.launchpad.net [23:14] can i have launchpad generate a release tar.gz from the tagged branch it already has? it seems redundant to create that locally and upload. [23:20] Demosthenes: not yet, but it would be nice if it could [23:20] Demosthenes: file a bug for it