[01:48] <Andre_Gondim> how may i enable the mic?
[02:22] <rainmanp7> hello I'm back :)
[02:22] <rainmanp7> Ok I got a question about somthing important dealing with ext4 and jaunty :)
[02:23] <rainmanp7> wait for a second while I formulate the question please
[02:24] <rainmanp7> Ok I will show a example and ask from that ok :)
[02:24] <rainmanp7>  Timing cached reads:   2014 MB in  2.00 seconds = 1006.55 MB/sec
[02:24] <rainmanp7>  Timing buffered disk reads:   92 MB in  3.01 seconds =  30.56 MB/sec
[02:25] <rainmanp7> From that figure Is it better to have a boost from 800 to 1006.55 or a bottom figure 30.56 up to 31.2 and have the top drop to 865 ?
[02:25] <Amaranth> bottom is most important
[02:26] <Amaranth> iirc the top one is actually your memory speed
[02:27] <rainmanp7> ok so the configuration that boosts both works better then just the one configuration that boosts the top then
[02:28] <bexamous> hdparm is poor in general, the buffered reads are not that useful at all
[02:29] <bexamous> file system has no influence on hdparm results either
[02:29] <bexamous> hdparm is testing the physical drive itself, doesn't matter if you have ext4 on it
[02:29] <rainmanp7> I noticed that the one that boosts the both -> that it sped up allot of things like Gimp loading ect and one you loaded somthing it became faster after every reload of any program
[02:30] <bexamous> after you load the program once, most remains in cache
[02:30] <bexamous> so any reloads shouldn't have to even read from the hd often
[02:31] <rainmanp7> Ok the only thing I did check this and tell me if it's safe :)
[02:31] <rainmanp7> Ok I have realtime set and this
[02:31] <rainmanp7> vendor="ATA",options=-p 0x80
[02:31] <rainmanp7> options=-g
[02:31] <rainmanp7> That option G I added in after reading about things into the scuzi config file
[02:33] <bexamous> i'm not sure enough to comment
[02:34] <rainmanp7> np
[02:34] <bexamous> at work when we test physical drives
[02:34] <bexamous> sudo echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches ; sudo time dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/null bs=1M count=10000
[02:34] <bexamous> we run that
[02:34] <bexamous> it clears any cached data in ram and then reads 10GB from drive
[02:35] <bexamous> not sure how much kernel configs will affect phsycial drive access
[02:36] <rainmanp7> yeah I read somthing here about scuzzi white list here ->http://hi.baidu.com/wa0362/blog/item/7ea02319a4f7044242a9ad55.html
[02:40] <rainmanp7> I'm trying to find more way of how this thing can act as a cluster mabey i can find more modifications to boost stability and speed :)
[02:45] <rainmanp7> will be back need to reboot :)
[02:47] <rainmanp7> .
[02:47]  * DanaG wonders what it'd take to get his sdhc card to work.
[02:59] <rainmanp7> ok it's late i need sleep gdnight and good luck
[03:56] <binarymutant> will we be able to see ruby 1.9.1 in Jaunty?
[04:00] <danbhfive> try packages.ubuntu.org      or com
[04:01] <dtchen> it hasn't been packaged yet, so no ETA
[04:01] <binarymutant> :( so no :(
[04:01] <binarymutant> oh it hasn't been packaged yet okay
[04:01] <binarymutant> thanks for the info :)
[05:59] <IntuitiveNipple> Has anyone experienced ubiquity *removing* a disk partition from the kernel's knowledge (/proc/partitions) when configuring a separate /boot/ partition and therefore failing silently?
[06:09] <billisnice> jaunty came alive today, the hardware files for my system downloaded...I really do not see much difference than in 8.10 as far as features
[06:14] <billisnice> i have ext4 installed at installation, it appears to load faster, but some programs are still slow. Hopefully l BTRFS will be ready soon and kick butt as promised
[06:14] <DanaG> s/MIA/A(FK)WOL/
[06:14] <DanaG> er
[06:14] <DanaG> transparent window == type into wrong tab.
[07:47]  * DanaG would be able to boot from his internal SD card reader... if it weren't for the fact that it doesn't work AT ALL in Linux.
[07:48] <crdlb> the one in my mother's toshiba laptop is exposed as a usb drive
[07:49] <DanaG> Mine is actually a PCI device.
[07:49] <maco> huh. i wonder if i could boot from mine. i never tried.
[07:49] <maco> and yeah, mine's pci
[07:49] <DanaG> It's a feature of my laptop's firmware.
[07:49] <maco> oh
[07:49] <maco> poo
[07:50] <DanaG> EliteBook -- has UEFI firmware, in fact.
[07:50] <syockit> If I install coreboot, will I get the boot options which was available previously?
[07:51] <DanaG> Oh yeah, so, my internal card reader gives absolutely nothing upon card insertion.
[07:51] <DanaG> Not even anything in dmesg.
[07:52] <maco> what kind is it? TI? Ricoh?
[07:52] <maco> those 2 usually work...
[07:52] <maco> something altogether new?
[07:53] <DanaG> Ricoh R5C843
[07:53] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/186087/+viewstatus
[07:53] <DanaG> Heh, look at that title.
[07:53] <DanaG> vaio thinkpad.... wait, what?
[07:53] <DanaG> =þ
[07:53] <crdlb> when did sony buy lenovo?
[07:53] <maco> what?
[07:54] <DanaG> It's somebody being mistaken.  =þ
[07:54] <syockit> zeltak: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=352 a good place to start
[07:54] <syockit> add jaunty repos sources.list, do dist-uprade
[07:55] <zeltak> thx :)
[07:55] <DanaG> http://www.aeneas.com.cn/PDF/Ricoh/2005/R5C832E1%5B1%5D.00.pdf
[07:55] <syockit> zeltak: It doesn't have the instruction for distro upgrade though
[07:55] <zeltak> mmm ok. isnt it just updating the sourcelist and doing a dist-upgarde?
[07:56] <syockit> zeltak: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview has just what you need it seems
[07:56] <zeltak> awesome, thx syockit!
[08:16] <DanaG> grr, stupid sdhc.
[08:21] <DanaG> Yeah, so my card reader does literally nothing at all in Linux.  Not even an error message.
[08:22] <maco> DanaG: does it work in intrepid?
[08:22] <maco> seeing as that says "fix released"
[08:28] <DanaG> Nope, doesn't work there, either.
[08:39] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/314600
[08:39] <DanaG> Another issue I have, even in Intrepid.
[08:40] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/186087
[08:42] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/311781
[08:44]  * DanaG goes off to bed now.
[08:44] <DanaG> Another bug with my laptop: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/284319
[08:46] <raevol> how "safe" would you guys consider jaunty at this point? i understand that it is still expected to have broken things, but if i need jaunty for support for my sound card, would you recommend updating?
[08:58] <syockit> While it may solve your 1 problem, it may cause others that you've never seen before
[09:00] <syockit> The latest live is alpha 3, check out if it doesn't break any other hardware
[09:01] <raevol> hmm ok, thanks
[09:05] <raevol> yea i think i'll wait for the beta at least, just to be safe :[
[09:11] <maco> raevol: you could compile your own sound drivers...
[09:11] <maco> not that itd be officially supported, but meh
[09:11] <raevol> well i jerry rigged my alsa install, i don't think it's a driver problem
[09:11] <raevol> i think it's a pulse audio/alsa problem, and i don't know where in the mess i need to fix something
[09:13] <maco> oh.
[09:55] <dust> http://pastebin.ca/1327017
[09:55] <dust> is there away to force this?
[09:57] <maco> dust: you could TRY downloading the package and using dpkg -i --force-depends on the deb, but no guarantees about it not breaking things
[09:58] <Oli``> Morning all. Just wanted to ask if there are any known, current and serious issues with Jaunty on nvidia systems (or in general) - Wondering if it's stable enough to upgrade =)
[10:01] <maco> with nvidia, always the potential for a loss of suspend/hibernate
[10:01] <maco> aside from that, i havent heard any nvidia complaints, but im an intel user so i cant be sure
[10:01] <dust> maco: any other way?
[10:02] <maco> wait a few hours and see if the dependency has been uploaded?
[10:05] <Oli``> thanks maco
[10:10] <peterz> my gnome apps started making 'plop' sounds whenever I press something
[10:10] <peterz> how do I teach it to quit that?
[10:13] <maco> peterz: right click your volume mixer
[10:14] <maco> go to open volume control
[10:14] <dust> maco: how do i do this can you help ?
[10:14] <maco> choose "system sound theme: none"
[10:14] <maco> dust: the package it needs simply doesnt exist. either wait for it to exist or try to force the install. if you force the install, the app probably wont work though
[10:15] <dust> wait for it to exist?
[10:15] <dust> i think someone else has same bug
[10:15] <peterz> maco: I don't run gnome, so I'll have to manually start gnome-control-panel or somesuch
[10:15] <maco> if youre gettingt hat error, it means one package was created and its dependency was not (yet)
[10:16] <maco> peterz: er, its an applet in the gnome-panel's notification area
[10:16] <maco> not sure if there's a command to open the volume control by itself
[10:16] <peterz> I don't have gnome-panel, and I don't have a gnome-mixer applet
[10:16] <maco> its not gnome-mixer applet. that ones going away.
[10:16] <peterz> I run mostly KDE, its just evo that goes plop plop all the time
[10:17] <peterz> driving me nuts
[10:17] <maco> right kde has its own system theme
[10:17] <maco> gnome-volume-control, maybe?
[10:17] <peterz> KDE apps are properly quiet
[10:18] <peterz> maco: grand, that worked
[10:18] <maco> yay
[10:18] <peterz> thanks mate
[10:18] <maco> np
[10:46] <wd4lko> how do i change the system sounds or alert sounds ?
[10:48] <maco> gnome-volume-control
[10:48] <Ebdomos> wd4lko: go to system, preferences, sound
[10:49] <Ebdomos> wd4lko: if you go to gnome-look or kde-look dot org, you can download some good themes
[10:49] <Ebdomos> kde3 sounds will always be my favourite though
[10:50] <wd4lko> but is there a file i can edit to my own sounds?
[10:50] <Ebdomos> oh, such as having a song play when you boot up?
[10:51] <wd4lko> yea something like that
[10:51] <Ebdomos> should be same place, the tab over lets you select the song
[10:52] <Ebdomos> although you might need to convert it, last time I fiddled with that, some formats gave of distorted sounds. They might have fixed that though (or perhaps It was something wrong on my side)
[10:52] <wd4lko> ok thanks i'll try it
[10:53] <wd4lko> i still get a little scratchy sound
[10:53] <Ebdomos> wd4lko: if that happens to be the case, then go to add/remove applications
[10:53] <Ebdomos> and search - sound converter
[10:53] <Ebdomos> and there you can convert to perhaps a wav, ogg, mp3,
[10:54] <Ebdomos> experiment I guess which works best
[10:54] <wd4lko> ok, im taking notes ! thanks
[10:55] <wd4lko> im running out of things to fiddle with or mess up
[10:56] <peterz> start coding, then there's an endless amount of stuff to fiddle with and mess up :-)
[10:57] <wd4lko> i wish i could do that, im too old to start !
[10:57] <peterz> hehe, you could give it a try.. who knows ;-)
[10:57] <Ebdomos> wd4lko: try python
[10:58] <wd4lko> i get headaches to easy
[10:58] <Ebdomos> but if you dont want to do that, make sure you play around with compiz fusion, and well as cairo dock
[10:58] <Ebdomos> lol
[10:58] <wd4lko> yea, that was my last ache
[10:59] <Ebdomos> cheers then
[10:59] <wd4lko> thanks alot guys for the help...
[12:51] <peterz> who;s in charge of hal ?
[12:51] <peterz> the jaunty package needs a bit of an update
[13:43] <syockit> lots of people
[13:43] <syockit> hal or hal-info?
[14:10] <h0rnman> good morning, everyone
[14:10] <h0rnman> or evening, or even possibly afternoon, depending on your location
[14:18] <calc> h0rnman: morning where i live and afternoon where i am ;-)
[14:19]  * calc lives in Houston (-6) but is in Berlin (+1) for 2 weeks
[14:23] <h0rnman> has anyone here tried dropping Jaunty on a VM?
[14:25] <IntuitiveNipple> yeah :)
[14:25] <calc> i'm running jaunty directly on my laptop :)
[14:26] <h0rnman> did you have any issues with ubiquity crashing about 70% through the install?
[14:27] <calc> i just upgraded from intrepid
[14:27] <h0rnman> sorry, that was for IntuitiveNipple  :)
[14:27]  * h0rnman feels dirty typing that
[14:28] <IntuitiveNipple> I've been seeing a *lot* of installer issuers... spend yesterday and today debugging them so far.
[14:29] <h0rnman> it looks like it crashes when going into the screensaver, but I'm trying one more time and keeping an eye on it
[14:29]  * calc is so sleepy :\
[14:30]  * calc thinks he will skip going to the spaceship tonight and just go to bed
[14:30] <rainmanp7> Gdmorning
[14:31] <rainmanp7> it's 9:29 AM here
[14:31] <h0rnman> mornin
[14:31] <rainmanp7> h0rnman :) what's going on today ?
[14:32] <rainmanp7> Man i want to be working on something
[14:32] <h0rnman> fights with ubiquity  :D
[14:32] <rainmanp7> what is ubiquity ?
[14:32] <fosco_> the ubuntu installer
[14:33] <rainmanp7> oh man i wanna help hehe
[14:33] <rainmanp7> Al I need to do is learn how to run a VM machine thing in linux like I can run vmware in win
[14:34] <fosco_> virtualbox is easy and free
[14:34] <h0rnman> well...the installer stopped, no messages, so here goes a reboot
[14:34] <rainmanp7> ok cool is it in synaptic ?
[14:34] <h0rnman> wish me luck
[14:34] <IntuitiveNipple> h0rnman: hang on a mo
[14:34] <rainmanp7> Gdluck :)
[14:35] <IntuitiveNipple> h0rnman: can you switch to a console with Ctrl+Alt+F1 ?
[14:35] <IntuitiveNipple> If so... you can check the installer logs
[14:35] <h0rnman> sorry....already in the middle of shutdown
[14:35] <IntuitiveNipple> ok... well next time, check out /var/log/syslog  and /var/log/installer/*
[14:35] <h0rnman> though if this fails, I can do just that
[14:37] <IntuitiveNipple> I'm trying to reproduce a bug whereby the partitioner code actually causes the kernel to lose a partition, by creating a VM with the exact same disk layout as the hardware... heres hoping
[14:37] <rainmanp7> k
[14:37] <calc> rainmanp7: there is also vmware for linux
[14:38] <calc> rainmanp7: so depends if you want free or what you are used to using ;-)
[14:38] <calc> also iirc virtualbox needs cpu support which vmware only needs for 64bit guests
[14:38] <rainmanp7> calc yeah let me see if i can get a download for that :)
[14:39] <IntuitiveNipple> I've got the installer stuck in an endless loop continually resizing the window (trying to start X I think) but I can see som BUG: soft lockups when the screen momentarily stabilises
[14:39] <calc> rainmanp7: download is easy a license for it is a bit harder to get
[14:39] <IntuitiveNipple> I use kvm/qemu for VMs
[14:40] <h0rnman> interesting....what is the manifestation of the partitioner issue?
[14:40] <calc> rainmanp7: http://vmware.com/download/ws/
[14:41] <IntuitiveNipple> h0rnman: Trying to install with a separate /boot/ partition. It somehow makes that partition disappear even when the partitions and file-system are pre-created
[14:42] <h0rnman> well, I can't speak for seeing that, but my current install run failed miserably (system refused to boot.)
[14:43] <rainmanp7> K will be back need to reboot :)
[14:45] <IntuitiveNipple> With the VM I can't get the LiveCD to start X
[14:46] <h0rnman> do you mean once you get everything installed?
[14:46] <IntuitiveNipple> nope, this is booting the LiveCD image
[14:46] <h0rnman> I've been able to get that to work fine
[14:50] <rainmanp7> .
[14:50] <IntuitiveNipple> I prefer using VMs since I can route the VM's console output to the host and capture early error messages
[14:50] <IntuitiveNipple> as now: [ 8497.690471] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#0 stuck for 61s! [events/0:6]
[14:51] <h0rnman> nice
[14:51] <h0rnman> :D
[14:58] <h0rnman> alright...now that I fixed the boot problem (turns out it was the VMWare nvram file)....i can see if I can find you those error logs :)
[15:00] <rainmanp7> h0rnman good work :)
[15:04] <rainmanp7> man i wish there was something i could do to help out :)
[15:05]  * fujimitsu finish download. amd64.iso test initiated
[15:06] <h0rnman> ok...IntuitiveNupple --  I can get a syslog, but there is no install log at all in /var/log
[15:06] <fujimitsu> alpha3
[15:07] <rainmanp7> fujimitsu want me to install that and run it ?
[15:08] <h0rnman> and now that I'm looking at it, syslog is empty
[15:08]  * izinucs is installing into a vbox vm.. hoping for the best
[15:09] <fujimitsu> no. trying to run alpha3 on gateway mt3422 laptop
[15:10] <rainmanp7> ahh ok
[15:10] <fujimitsu> are there any wifi issues known?
[15:11] <rainmanp7> Yeah i need to um test a usb wireless device :)
[15:12] <fujimitsu> i just dont want to have to run a wire after install
[15:15] <h0rnman> allright, something with the vmdk file was thrashed.  I'm trying again from the beginning
[15:17] <rainmanp7> be right back going to get a wierless adapter working ;)
[15:58] <h0rnman> sadly, I think this is a lost cause :(
[15:59] <h0rnman> IntuitiveNipple:  I tried again, this time trying to set up a separate boot partition, and I met with the same results
[16:05] <IntuitiveNipple> h0rnman: Yeah... I think waiting for alpha 4 may be wise (I'm having problems with the daily)
[16:06] <h0rnman> unfortunately, I have to agree
[16:08] <rainmanp7> how do i know which alpha version i'm running ?
[16:12] <hggdh> rainmanp7, if you are running jaunty, and updating, then you are very near alpha4
[16:12] <rainmanp7> hggdh yes cool
[16:16] <rainmanp7> I is there a way i can plug certin hardware in and scan it and get the information to a site So they can add hardware support for it for Jaunty and future releases ?
[16:18] <rainmanp7> I'm really wodnering about this USB wireless stuff being supported :)
[16:33] <rainmanp7> I have 3 devices that are USB and 2 Wireless USB adapters I would like see supported. I own them and can scan them etc.. and give reports ->any ideas
[16:47] <rainmanp7> .
[16:59] <gourgi> rainmanp7 i think this is kernel's job, so you have to follow this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[16:59] <gourgi> rainmanp7 but ask also to #ubuntu-bugs to be sure
[17:00] <rainmanp7> ok ty I will :)
[17:18] <rainmanp7> I'm wondering if I just keep updating i won't have to reinstall jaunty right ? I can just roll with it ?
[17:18] <IntuitiveNipple> can someone remind how, when at the LiveCD menu, with the 'F6' "Other Options" menu active and items selected, you then get it to boot with those options? What key to press? Only Esc seems to get rid of the menu, but I don't see the options added to the kernel command line (should they be shown?)
[17:18] <IntuitiveNipple> rainmanp7: correct
[17:19] <rainmanp7> ty
[17:49] <fujimitsu> well.. everything works as expected. still have not installed proprietary nvidia drivers yet.  hmm.. everything still looks and feels exactly the same as 8.10
[17:50] <SwedeMike> alt-tabbing is slower for me in 9.04, so is doing mplayer etc. it's just generally more jerky. But the fact that 9.04 actually figures out my 1280x800 screen and doesn't try to run it in 1024x768 like 8.10 does, makes it still the better choice :P
[17:51] <fujimitsu> network connection signal icon still in between 0 and 17 % . same deal as in 8.10
[17:51] <fujimitsu> but thats just incorrect
[17:52] <SwedeMike> mine says 45% which I think is ok
[17:53] <fujimitsu> that be more accurate about your case. i know 17% is wrong.
[17:54] <fujimitsu> running vista on same machine i get 100% signal strength
[17:55] <SwedeMike> the interesting part is that 8.04, 8.10 and 9.04 all report different time remaining on battery for me between the two available apps for that, even though they see the same percentage of the battery power left
[17:55] <SwedeMike> power manager seems to be wrong, battery charge monitor seems right
[17:55] <fujimitsu> did your display break on restricted drivers
[17:56] <SwedeMike> anyone else sees?
[17:56] <SwedeMike> I dont have any restriced drivers, I have intel 4500
[17:56] <rainmanp7> Ok i got a strange problem :) I have a sound blaster sound card and a usb Cmedia headphone device How can I change devices as 2 Devices and not all the channel stuff listed ?
[17:56] <rainmanp7> Like how does one switch between both ? like turn one on and the other off or have both ?
[18:21] <gourgi> !schedule
[18:21] <gourgi> alpha4 tomorrow, cool :D
[18:23] <spr0k3t> oh sweet... I wonder what is going to break and what's going to get better
[18:29] <maco> between today & tomorrow/
[18:29] <maco> shoudnt be anything. theyre supposed to be freezing to create cds
[18:49] <xsg> HI I have Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty Jackalope alpha 3 when will the new desktop background be availible
[18:56] <gourgi> xsg from A4 to Beta
[18:56] <gourgi> xsg !schedule
[19:15] <xsg_> when will alpha 4 be out
[19:15] <xsg_> and will it be availible in the alpha 3 update in update manager
[19:16] <TheInfinity> when its done :)
[19:17] <xsg_>  and will it be availible in the alpha 3 update in update manager
[19:18] <maco> its just a rolled up bundle of all the updates the alpha 3 users already have
[19:23] <xsg_> so i will be updated daily
[19:23] <xsg_> from alpha
[19:23] <xsg_> 3
[19:31] <rainmanp7> .
[19:47] <linuxman410> have got 10 dollars in this whole laptop
[20:17] <danbhfive> !schedule
[20:31] <mphill_> whooooo. my suspend sorta finally works!
[20:33] <xsg> HI guys
[21:17] <nicomen> mphill_: but hibernate still doesn't?
[21:18] <mphill_> hibernate usually wasn't a problem
[21:18] <mphill_> it was suspend, i suspend it it would wake up right away.  this is awesome.
[21:19] <nicomen> ok, hibernate stopped working for me, in hoary I think ;/
[21:19] <nicomen> and suspend has been on/off until not long ago
[21:20] <mphill_> i would rather suspend (on a desktop at least)
[21:20] <mphill_> hibernate would be ideal on a laptop
[21:20] <mphill_> imho
[21:21] <nicomen> yeah laptop, what's this desktop thing you talk about? ;D
[21:23] <mphill_> i don't own a laptop
[21:23] <mphill_> i might buy a netbook
[23:19] <veritos> Will Jaunty support Flash *without* nspluginwrapper, as well as Sun Java (including browser plugin) *without* OpenJDK?
[23:44] <pwnguin> heh