=== asac_ is now known as asac [06:16] hi, can someone please take a look at the following kernel traces? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/113482/ [06:17] I'm not even sure what to put in a bug report, if this is the case. I think I'm having troubles similar to the closed bug #154591, in hardy (up to date) [06:17] Malone bug 154591 in linux "7.10 live cd does not boot, the error: udevd-event[2292]: modprobe abnormal exit" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154591 [06:26] philsf: Post a new bug, subject "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request" and tag it with "kernel-oops". Make sure to *attach* files with the reports requested at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies [06:31] IntuitiveNipple: thanks [09:46] Are you guys interested in troubleshooting a suspend/resume issue? On my macbook pro, suspend/resume fails if I am using the FOSS nv driver, yet resume works if I am using proprietary nvidia drivers. [10:41] hi, it seems there is a depend on grub when you REMOVE kernels, why is that? [10:41] when you installed grub-pc (grub2) it should work too [11:37] http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=commit;h=86eda75b0b200cf158efa007a94e1842ba9292cc [11:37] bad comment [13:10] rtg: what's the status of the rt2860 kernel that appears to have been included in the ubuntu kernel? can i assume it's based on the manufacturer supplied drivers? [13:11] henrik-hw0: nope from staging, tested it first, u adopted it [13:13] Kano: I just figured it it already was included there would be no point for me packaging it. [13:13] and the firmware too [13:15] Kano: Pardon the stupid question but does being in "staging" mean it's included in the source linux package but disabled? [13:16] its the test section for new drivers [13:17] I see... [14:17] \/c [15:12] err [15:13] how does one set the essid of an interface in jaunty? [15:13] Keybuk: iwconfig? [15:13] that wasn't working [15:13] NM it seems [18:38] hello [18:38] i am new to kernel mod builds and kernels on linux. Id like to follow the LDD3 book this next few months and learn how to build drivers. I am running ubuntu 2.6.24-19-server. im trying to follow the book, im currently in chap one and they have stated i need the build dir. it's there. now, im trying to run the hello.c file i just created from code example. Could someone help me a bit, as the Makefile or make cmd. also, where shou [18:39] i will be able to follow along pretty well. i am ready for this challenge [18:40] oly562: hum. this is probably not the right place to ask.. maybe the ubuntu-kernel mailing list might be better.. also, your message got cut off :) [18:41] or maybe the kernelnewbies channel, but i'm not sure if they like distro kernels that much [18:41] ic [18:41] oh [18:41] ugh lol thanks for telling me about the message [18:42] where did it cut? last few words pleae [18:42] make cmd. also, where shou [18:42] k [18:42] thanks [18:43] oly562: Your best bet is to look at the source code for the kernel, especially the individual drivers. Pick a small one and look at its Kbuild and Makefile to get an idea of how it is done. [18:43] yah maybe in a year, i will come back and hang in here lol [18:44] k [18:44] im in the process of trying to git the kern code [18:44] reading this now [18:44] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile [18:45] whats the cmdline version of synaptic called? trying to apt-get it [18:45] this server is in init 3 [18:45] by choice [18:46] i just started using ubuntu last month [18:46] coming from rh and centos [18:46] linux speaking [18:48] dpkg? [18:48] i thought there is a apt-get none gui prog [18:48] but runs in cmdline with pretty colors [18:48] menus so forth [18:50] Use "sudo apt-get install git-core" [18:50] then, create a directory to work in (I have a directory /home/all/SourceCode/) where all source packages are put [18:50] adept? [18:51] k [18:51] ok [18:51] perfect [18:51] where will the source packages be? after git-core is installed [18:52] /lib or /usr/src [18:52] and where do i run the make from ? [18:52] sorry [18:52] this is what stopped me in the past from continuing this journey... sighs [18:52] See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide for info on downloading the Ubuntu kernel releases [18:52] also when i reboot, will i need to modify grub menu? [18:53] k [18:54] For an installed system, the kernel headers are in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build [18:54] 'build' is a sym-link to the actual kernel headers location [18:54] ok [18:54] must go, dinner time [18:55] thanks nipple:) [18:55] hah interesting nic [18:56] ok, got it, sym-link. so for my hello.c should i place that in the build dir? or ~/home/someone/SourceCode [18:56] i dont see how the make will find the file in my home dir [18:56] so i do a symlink from home dir to .../build? [18:57] i have no .config custom kern build. will i be able to do this in cmdline? i have no Xserver running. its a server [19:02] im reading those links now. bbiab [19:02] please feel free to respond [19:02] :) [20:05] is the term headers the same as saying kern source? [20:06] oly562: No. The kernel source is the entire kernel source. Headers are only the header files needed to build modules outside the kernel. [20:07] if i wanted to copy the "kern source" what directory is that? [20:07] k [20:07] where is the kernel source located [20:07] typically by default if you git or grab it from cd during install [20:07] oly562: Depending on the version of Ubuntu you are using, you would install the linux-source-kernelversion package, where kernelversion is the version of the kernel that Ubuntu on your system uses. [20:07] hardy [20:08] server kernel .19 [20:08] oly562: So linux-source-2.6.24 is the package you want. However if you would rather work with the git repo, then you need to isntall git-core, and clone the git repo to your machine and work on it there. [20:08] uname -r [20:08] 2.6.24-19-server [20:09] cp the git-core to a dir? [20:09] yep so as I said, if you just want a source tarball of the kernel in use, install linux-source-2.6.24 [20:09] im not interesting in current [20:09] oly562: No, you use the git clone command, git clone git://url.to/hardy-kernel.git [20:09] this is just for testing and learnig from a bood [20:09] book [20:09] ok. [20:10] where with git store this information [20:10] so i can "clone" copy it to another dir [20:10] i wouldnt want to ln -s it would it from that dir? and save some disk space would i? [20:10] git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git [20:11] yes i got that TheMuso [20:11] what does the clone command do? [20:11] just grabs the sources and puts in the cur dir? [20:12] oly562: the clone command downloads the git repo and puts it in the current directory [20:12] and once i have the source in a dir of my chose, i can do kernel mod builds in there? [20:12] ok got it [20:12] and.. build? from there as well? [20:12] Yes [20:12] If you only want to build modules against the kernel you are using however, you simply need to install linux-headers-2.6.24-19-server [20:12] ok. once i build a new image, kernel, however it's called, i can then install it. right? [20:13] If you make a deb package yes you can [20:13] i have the headers installed they are in /usr/src [20:13] hmmm... can you say a little more about that. or post a good ubuntu url for me to read up on that.. deb packaging? [20:14] go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild for more information. [20:14] all start grabbing the source , its like huge. isnt there a smaller one? [20:14] got that link actually, just trying to clarify a few things, since im new to linux mod and kernel builds [20:14] ill be doing this in cmdline , not using any gui [20:16] can you do a trunk'd post here for example of your /usr/src/uname... header/ what dir's i should see in there or say a few? [20:17] ic arch block .config, crypto, Docum, drivers, kernel, Kbuild [20:18] du -sh /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19/ [20:18] 59M /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19/ [20:18] and... [20:18] du -sh /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-server/ [20:18] 7.0M /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-server/ [20:18] there is a big diff in size of those two dir's [20:18] i would assume the 59m is the right one [20:18] but. im running server as uname -r states [20:18] i dont get it? [20:19] its it becuz i did an upgrade or apt-get update b4 in the past? [20:19] thanks [20:20] trust me all that you guys are saying is really helping me understand things now [20:21] i have read things from the links, but i need to be certain of things. the howtos are not Always that clear [20:21] im very cautious about loading things on my nix servers [20:22] as you all well know, you can kill a box quickly ESpecially with kernel tuning and mod's, programs that require deps that BReak other progs, and hardware [20:22] so... any info i may ask, will be greatly helpful [20:23] git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git is downloding [20:24] 657,000 objects .... sighs [20:24] at 588 kiB/s [20:25] i guess about 20 mins there about, giving my buggy charter connection lately doesnt die... [22:43] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/209901 [22:43] Malone bug 209901 in linux "webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger ID 046d:08f6 is not reconized" [Medium,Fix released] [22:43] did anybody patch that driver for 2.6.28? [22:49] ubuntu has patches for 1.8, you need 3 [22:50] err gentoo [22:50] http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-video/qc-usb-messenger/files/