[06:16] <philsf> hi, can someone please take a look at the following kernel traces? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/113482/
[06:17] <philsf> I'm not even sure what to put in a bug report, if this is the case. I think I'm having troubles similar to the closed bug #154591, in hardy (up to date)
[06:17] <ubot3> Malone bug 154591 in linux "7.10 live cd does not boot, the error: udevd-event[2292]: modprobe abnormal exit" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/154591
[06:26] <IntuitiveNipple> philsf: Post a new bug, subject "BUG: unable to handle kernel paging request" and tag it with "kernel-oops". Make sure to *attach* files with the reports requested at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeamBugPolicies
[06:31] <philsf> IntuitiveNipple: thanks
[09:46] <TheMuso> Are you guys interested in troubleshooting a suspend/resume issue? On my macbook pro, suspend/resume fails if I am using the FOSS nv driver, yet resume works if I am using proprietary nvidia drivers.
[10:41] <Kano> hi, it seems there is a depend on grub when you REMOVE kernels, why is that?
[10:41] <Kano> when you installed grub-pc (grub2) it should work too
[11:37] <Kano> http://kernel.ubuntu.com/git?p=ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git;a=commit;h=86eda75b0b200cf158efa007a94e1842ba9292cc
[11:37] <Kano> bad comment
[13:10] <henrik-hw0> rtg: what's the status of the rt2860 kernel that appears to have been included in the ubuntu kernel? can i assume it's based on the manufacturer supplied drivers?
[13:11] <Kano> henrik-hw0: nope from staging, tested it first, u adopted it
[13:13] <henrik-hw0> Kano: I just figured it it already was included there would be no point for me packaging it.
[13:13] <Kano> and the firmware too
[13:15] <henrik-hw0> Kano: Pardon the stupid question but does being in "staging" mean it's included in the source linux package but disabled?
[13:16] <Kano> its the test section for new drivers
[13:17] <henrik-hw0> I see...
[14:17] <TheMuso> \/c
[15:12] <Keybuk> err
[15:13] <Keybuk> how does one set the essid of an interface in jaunty?
[15:13] <rtg> Keybuk: iwconfig?
[15:13] <Keybuk> that wasn't working
[15:13] <Keybuk> NM it seems
[18:38] <oly562> hello
[18:38] <oly562> i am new to kernel mod builds and kernels on linux. Id like to follow the LDD3 book this next few months and learn how to build drivers. I am running ubuntu 2.6.24-19-server. im trying to follow the book, im currently in chap one and they have stated i need the build dir. it's there. now, im trying to run the hello.c file i just created from code example. Could someone help me a bit, as the Makefile or make cmd. also, where shou
[18:39] <oly562> i will be able to follow along pretty well. i am ready for this challenge
[18:40] <laga> oly562: hum. this is probably not the right place to ask.. maybe the ubuntu-kernel mailing list might be better.. also, your message got cut off :)
[18:41] <laga> or maybe the kernelnewbies channel, but i'm not sure if they like distro kernels that much
[18:41] <oly562> ic
[18:41] <oly562> oh
[18:41] <oly562> ugh lol thanks for telling me about the message
[18:42] <oly562> where did it cut? last few words pleae
[18:42] <laga> make cmd. also, where shou
[18:42] <oly562> k
[18:42] <oly562> thanks
[18:43] <IntuitiveNipple> oly562: Your best bet is to look at the source code for the kernel, especially the individual drivers. Pick a small one and look at its Kbuild and Makefile to get an idea of how it is done.
[18:43] <oly562> yah maybe in a year, i will come back and hang in here lol
[18:44] <oly562> k
[18:44] <oly562> im in the process of trying to git the kern code
[18:44] <oly562> reading this now
[18:44] <oly562> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[18:45] <oly562> whats the cmdline version of synaptic called? trying to apt-get it
[18:45] <oly562> this server is in init 3
[18:45] <oly562> by choice
[18:46] <oly562> i just started using ubuntu last month
[18:46] <oly562> coming from rh and centos
[18:46] <oly562> linux speaking
[18:48] <oly562> dpkg?
[18:48] <oly562> i thought there is a apt-get none gui prog
[18:48] <oly562> but runs in cmdline with pretty colors
[18:48] <oly562> menus so forth
[18:50] <IntuitiveNipple> Use "sudo apt-get install git-core"
[18:50] <IntuitiveNipple> then, create a directory to work in (I have a directory /home/all/SourceCode/) where all source packages are put
[18:50] <oly562> adept?
[18:51] <oly562> k
[18:51] <oly562> ok
[18:51] <oly562> perfect
[18:51] <oly562> where will the source packages be? after git-core is installed
[18:52] <oly562>  /lib or /usr/src
[18:52] <oly562> and where do i run the make from ?
[18:52] <oly562> sorry
[18:52] <oly562> this is what stopped me in the past from continuing this journey... sighs
[18:52] <IntuitiveNipple> See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide for info on downloading the Ubuntu kernel releases
[18:52] <oly562> also when i reboot, will i need to modify grub menu?
[18:53] <oly562> k
[18:54] <IntuitiveNipple> For an installed system, the kernel headers are in  /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build
[18:54] <IntuitiveNipple> 'build' is a sym-link to the actual kernel headers location
[18:54] <oly562> ok
[18:54] <IntuitiveNipple> must go, dinner time
[18:55] <oly562> thanks nipple:)
[18:55] <oly562> hah interesting nic
[18:56] <oly562> ok, got it, sym-link. so for my hello.c should i place that in the build dir? or ~/home/someone/SourceCode
[18:56] <oly562> i dont see how the make will find the file in my home dir
[18:56] <oly562> so i do a symlink from home dir to .../build?
[18:57] <oly562> i have no .config custom kern build. will i be able to do this in cmdline? i have no Xserver running. its a server
[19:02] <oly562> im reading those links now.  bbiab
[19:02] <oly562> please feel free to respond
[19:02] <oly562> :) 
[20:05] <oly562> is the term headers the same as saying kern source?
[20:06] <TheMuso> oly562: No. The kernel source is the entire kernel source. Headers are only the header files needed to build modules outside the kernel.
[20:07] <oly562> if i wanted to copy the "kern source" what directory is that?
[20:07] <oly562> k
[20:07] <oly562> where is the kernel source located
[20:07] <oly562> typically by default if you git or grab it from cd during install
[20:07] <TheMuso> oly562: Depending on the version of Ubuntu you are using, you would install the linux-source-kernelversion package, where kernelversion is the version of the kernel that Ubuntu on your system uses.
[20:07] <oly562> hardy
[20:08] <oly562> server kernel .19
[20:08] <TheMuso> oly562: So linux-source-2.6.24 is the package you want. However if you would rather work with the git repo, then you need to isntall git-core, and clone the git repo to your machine and work on it there.
[20:08] <oly562>  uname -r
[20:08] <oly562> 2.6.24-19-server
[20:09] <oly562> cp the git-core to a dir?
[20:09] <TheMuso> yep so as I said, if you just want a source tarball of the kernel in use, install linux-source-2.6.24
[20:09] <oly562> im not interesting in current
[20:09] <TheMuso> oly562: No, you use the git clone command, git clone git://url.to/hardy-kernel.git
[20:09] <oly562> this is just for testing and learnig from a bood
[20:09] <oly562> book
[20:09] <oly562> ok.
[20:10] <oly562> where with git store this information
[20:10] <oly562> so i can "clone" copy it to another dir
[20:10] <oly562> i wouldnt want to ln -s it would it from that dir? and save some disk space would i?
[20:10] <TheMuso> git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git
[20:11] <oly562> yes i got that TheMuso
[20:11] <oly562> what does the clone command do?
[20:11] <oly562> just grabs the sources and puts in the cur dir?
[20:12] <TheMuso> oly562: the clone command downloads the git repo and puts it in the current directory
[20:12] <oly562> and once i have the source in a dir of my chose, i can do kernel mod builds in there?
[20:12] <oly562> ok got it
[20:12] <oly562> and.. build? from there as well?
[20:12] <TheMuso> Yes
[20:12] <TheMuso> If you only want to build modules against the kernel you are using however, you simply need to install linux-headers-2.6.24-19-server
[20:12] <oly562> ok. once i build a new image, kernel, however it's called, i can then install it. right?
[20:13] <TheMuso> If you make a deb package yes you can
[20:13] <oly562> i have the headers installed they are in /usr/src
[20:13] <oly562> hmmm... can you say a little more about that. or post a good ubuntu url for me to read up on that.. deb packaging?
[20:14] <TheMuso> go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelCustomBuild for more information.
[20:14] <oly562> all start grabbing the source , its like huge. isnt there a smaller one?
[20:14] <oly562> got that link actually, just trying to clarify a few things, since im new to linux mod and kernel builds
[20:14] <oly562> ill be doing this in cmdline , not using any gui 
[20:16] <oly562> can you do a trunk'd post here for example of your /usr/src/uname... header/ what dir's i should see in there or say a few?
[20:17] <oly562> ic arch block .config, crypto, Docum, drivers, kernel, Kbuild
[20:18] <oly562>  du -sh /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19/
[20:18] <oly562> 59M	/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19/
[20:18] <oly562> and...
[20:18] <oly562>  du -sh /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-server/
[20:18] <oly562> 7.0M	/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.24-19-server/
[20:18] <oly562> there is a big diff in size of those two dir's
[20:18] <oly562> i would assume the 59m is the right one
[20:18] <oly562> but. im running server as uname -r states
[20:18] <oly562> i dont get it?
[20:19] <oly562> its it becuz i did an upgrade or apt-get update b4 in the past?
[20:19] <oly562> thanks 
[20:20] <oly562> trust me all that you guys are saying is really helping me understand things now
[20:21] <oly562> i have read things from the links, but i need to be certain of things. the howtos are not Always that clear
[20:21] <oly562> im very cautious about loading things on my nix servers
[20:22] <oly562> as you all well know, you can kill a box quickly ESpecially with kernel tuning and mod's, programs that require deps that BReak other progs, and hardware
[20:22] <oly562> so... any info i may ask, will be greatly helpful
[20:23] <oly562> git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-hardy.git  is downloding
[20:24] <oly562> 657,000 objects .... sighs
[20:24] <oly562> at 588 kiB/s
[20:25] <oly562> i guess about 20 mins there about, giving my buggy charter connection lately doesnt die...
[22:43] <Kano> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/209901
[22:43] <ubot3> Malone bug 209901 in linux "webcam Logitech QuickCam Messenger  ID 046d:08f6 is not reconized" [Medium,Fix released] 
[22:43] <Kano> did anybody patch that driver for 2.6.28?
[22:49] <Kano> ubuntu has patches for 1.8, you need 3 
[22:50] <Kano> err gentoo
[22:50] <Kano> http://sources.gentoo.org/viewcvs.py/gentoo-x86/media-video/qc-usb-messenger/files/