nhandler | ScottK: I was just reading through some meeting logs, and I saw that you became an Archive Admin. Congrats! | 00:16 |
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Tonio_ | ScottK: I just noticed last upload broke some functionnalities in PNM.... those are fixed svn | 00:43 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: is that reasonable to upload ? | 00:43 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: the bad thing is that I noticed this issue at reboot, it worked after the update... | 00:43 |
dtchen | Tonio_: i noted as much about 24 hours ago | 00:46 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: yeah.... I didn't use wireless since then, and after a simple dpkg -i + plasma restart it worked.... | 00:46 |
dtchen | sorry, i should have filed a bug, but i've been fighting alsa-kernel | 00:47 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: wired networks still worked so I missed that regression.... so bad that it happened in the middle of the freeze | 00:47 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: no pb :) the problem was easy to figure out anyway :) | 00:47 |
Tonio_ | I'm just wondering if it's sane to upload right now.... | 00:47 |
dtchen | i'm happy to test if you have a ppa upload handy | 00:48 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: I'm building that one locally, but I can send you a deb file in a couple of minutes.. | 00:49 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: for some reason, we'll have to reboot to test... | 00:49 |
dtchen | (ok, i'm on amd64) | 00:49 |
Tonio_ | hum..... | 00:49 |
Tonio_ | then I need to upload a ppa :) | 00:49 |
dtchen | i've got a current pbuilder that's churning through pulseaudio, but i'm happy to test | 00:49 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: or just upload after deep tests on my side, dunno | 00:49 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: lemme send you the source package then | 00:50 |
dtchen | yeah, url would work dandy | 00:50 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: http://planetemu.net/temp/nm | 00:51 |
dtchen | Tonio_: dgot, thanks | 00:53 |
Tonio_ | you're welcome | 00:53 |
ScottK | Tonio_: Any upload we do now will cause all the images to have to be respun. I think put it in the known issues for release notes and wait. | 00:57 |
Tonio_ | ok | 00:57 |
vorian | ScottK: yes sir | 00:57 |
ScottK | vorian: Thanks. | 00:57 |
ScottK | Tonio_: Thanks. What I can do as an archive admin is pretty limited since non-Canonical employees can't get ssh access. | 00:58 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: that's no pb :) | 00:59 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: wiki updated along with kmail sieve issue | 01:00 |
ScottK | Tonio_: Great. Thanks. | 01:01 |
* Tonio_ reboots to test latest pnm | 01:01 | |
Tonio_ | dtchen: works for me, except from the icon... there is still a little bug, but it'll get fixed in a couple of days for sure | 01:06 |
dtchen | hmm, which icon issue? | 01:06 |
dtchen | i.e., the present build in jaunty only displays an icon while associating | 01:07 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: when connected wireless, you have a blank... | 01:07 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: connecting wirely gives the correct icon.... | 01:07 |
dtchen | ah, yes | 01:07 |
dtchen | that's the precise issue i see currently | 01:07 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: no big deal, it'll be fixed soon | 01:08 |
dtchen | yeah, i can deal with missing icons ;) | 01:08 |
Tonio_ | hehe :) | 01:08 |
Tonio_ | I'd like to test the vpn part of it too.... but I need my company's certificate renewed... | 01:09 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: did you have to reboot to get pnm to work ? | 01:12 |
dtchen | Tonio_: waiting on pbuilder ATM | 01:12 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: okay, oh so you have the icon issue with yesterday's upload ? | 01:13 |
ScottK | kdepim only takes 11 hours to build on armel .... | 01:13 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: it shouldn't even connect, btw... | 01:13 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: shame on me.... sorry | 01:13 |
ScottK | Tonio_: It needed built anyway, so your upload didn't actually hurt. | 01:14 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: good you ping me before I uploaded koffice2 :) | 01:14 |
ScottK | Is that in Main? | 01:14 |
vorian | ScottK: i suppose we could move povray to suggest, but povray is really the reason kpovmodeler exists | 01:15 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: http://imagebin.ca/view/znAihjFB.html | 01:15 |
ScottK | How about change it to depends and move it to multiverse? | 01:15 |
ScottK | vorian: ^^ | 01:15 |
dtchen | Tonio_: yes, with yesterday's. and yesterday's works fine for me (using restricted wl driver) with open, wep, wpa, and wpa2 | 01:15 |
vorian | ScottK: agreed | 01:15 |
ScottK | I think that's actually more user friendly then. | 01:15 |
dtchen | brb, testing pbuilt one | 01:15 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: would you be interested in committing some kde4-integration goodness for software-properties-kde? | 01:15 |
vorian | yep | 01:15 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: not koffice2, indeed... but koffice is in main afaik | 01:16 |
ScottK | Riddell: Would you move kpovmodeler to multiverse please. | 01:16 |
vorian | oh, i was just about to file a bug | 01:16 |
vorian | thanks ScottK :) | 01:16 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: hum strange... didn't work for me at all, but today's fixing my issue... | 01:16 |
ScottK | vorian: Do that anyway, he's probably sleeping anyway. | 01:16 |
vorian | ok | 01:17 |
Tonio_ | dtchen: fixing the wiki then :) s/won't connect/may not connect/ | 01:17 |
ScottK | vorian: Please mention in the bug it needs to be unseeded too. | 01:18 |
ScottK | It's on the dvd now. | 01:18 |
vorian | ah, ok | 01:18 |
ScottK | vorian: I also notice there was an outstanding 'package description is crap' bug and the description will need updating anyway, so would you mind taking a whack at updating your proposed upload while we wait? | 01:19 |
vorian | sure thing | 01:19 |
ScottK | Thanks. | 01:19 |
vorian | ScottK: do i need your ack on that bug? | 01:20 |
dtchen | Tonio_: pbuilt one exhibits no regressions from yesterday's | 01:21 |
Tonio_ | great :) | 01:21 |
ScottK | vorian: I don't think so. | 01:21 |
vorian | ok then | 01:22 |
Nightrose | does one of you know what package i need for bonjour support in kopete by any chance? | 01:23 |
JontheEchidna | I think we might not have the package needed for bonjour support | 01:23 |
Nightrose | it works on my desktop here | 01:24 |
Nightrose | but not on my eeepc | 01:24 |
Nightrose | so i guess i am missing a package | 01:24 |
ScottK | eeepc to small for bonjour. | 01:24 |
ScottK | ;-) | 01:25 |
Nightrose | :P | 01:25 |
Nightrose | adept is not really helping me :/ | 01:25 |
JontheEchidna | oh, maybe I'm thinking a different protocol | 01:25 |
vorian | ScottK: do you have a bug number for the package description? It doesn't seem to be linked to the source package for some reason | 01:27 |
ScottK | Maybe I was looking at another one. | 01:27 |
ScottK | I was. Sorry. | 01:28 |
vorian | no problemo | 01:28 |
ScottK | ETOOMANYPACKAGESTODAY | 01:28 |
vorian | hehe | 01:28 |
ScottK | I actually didn't upload any today, just piles of lpia and armel retires. | 01:28 |
ScottK | I went back and looked and when we did the last set of plasma rebuilds I had 12 packages in a row on jauntu-changes. | 01:29 |
vorian | ScottK: http://machine-crusade.net/kpov/ when you have a moment | 01:38 |
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ScottK | vorian: At this point just wait until it gets moved and you can upload it yourself .... | 02:03 |
vorian | ah, true enough | 02:03 |
vorian | :) | 02:04 |
ScottK | vorian: Did you file the bug? I don't see it, | 02:06 |
ScottK | Czessi: | 02:07 |
ScottK | Sorry | 02:07 |
vorian | bug 325561 | 02:08 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 325561 in kpovmodeler "Please move kpovmodeler from Main to Multiverse" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325561 | 02:08 |
vorian | ScottK: ^ | 02:09 |
EagleScreen | kbluetooth4 which is provided by kdebluetooth 0.3 crash each time I turn off my laptop bluetooth adapter, can you reproduce this? | 02:26 |
EagleScreen | if not, where can I obtain debugging symbols to provide a good backtrace? | 02:28 |
ScottK | I can reproduce it, but a good bug with a good backtrace would be a good thing. | 02:42 |
ScottK | EagleScreen: I think if you install kdebase-workspace-dbg | 02:42 |
ScottK | vorian: Thanks. | 02:42 |
EagleScreen | ScottK negative, already installed | 02:45 |
ScottK | I don't know then. | 02:45 |
* ScottK looks at JontheEchidna. Maybe he knows. | 02:45 | |
EagleScreen | then what should I do with this issue? | 02:46 |
ScottK | I'd suggest file a bug and see if better instructions appear. | 02:49 |
* claydoh takes a step back in time and installs hardy on his new desktop | 02:53 | |
ScottK | \o/ | 02:55 |
claydoh | I also posted to the k-u list, there was a question on whether kubuntu would get an 8.04.2 release | 02:58 |
ScottK | Thanks. So now the answer is "If you test it". | 02:58 |
claydoh | well right now my old monitor looks better w/hardy and vesa than Intrepid/jaunty with ati or fglrx drivers :) | 02:59 |
ScottK | ;-) | 03:00 |
claydoh | but that 6 year old crt is in bad shape anyway | 03:00 |
* claydoh craves an lcd but has to wait a bit longer | 03:01 | |
JontheEchidna | I guess the only way for kdebluetooth would be a ddeb | 03:04 |
JontheEchidna | which would probably only be available for jaunty | 03:04 |
ScottK | Lovely. Well it's the same kdebluetooth with the same solid-bluetooth patch. | 03:05 |
ScottK | I replicated the problem by throwing the 'airplane mode' switch on my laptop. | 03:05 |
ScottK | Anyone with Jaunty and Bluetooth? | 03:06 |
rgreening | ScottK: http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/113869/ | 03:07 |
rgreening | I think kdesdk, kdenetwork and kdewebdav still ref libboost-dev which is an issue. | 03:07 |
rgreening | I think... | 03:07 |
ScottK | Definitely kdenetwork. | 03:08 |
rgreening | They don't build in my PPA cause the packages want both libboost-dev and libboost1.35-dev. libboost-dev pulls in libboost1.34-dev | 03:08 |
ScottK | I've got a fixed kdenetwork sitting here waiting for the freeze to be over. | 03:08 |
rgreening | ok | 03:08 |
rgreening | I think kdesdk and webdev exhibit the same | 03:09 |
ScottK | Wouldn't suprise me about the others. | 03:09 |
rgreening | at least from what I see in the records. should I just change libboost-dev to libboost1.35-dev? | 03:10 |
ScottK | Yes, but also check the depends. Some packages have a hard coded depends on some boost package. | 03:10 |
ScottK | If you miss that they will build, just not be installable. | 03:10 |
rgreening | let me see what kdesdk shows... | 03:11 |
rgreening | ok, kdesdk looks like it just needs one > 1.33 | 03:13 |
rgreening | so kdesdk will need to be updated. you want em to generate a debdiff?> | 03:14 |
rgreening | ScottK ^ | 03:16 |
ScottK | Is that in Main? | 03:16 |
vorian | yeah | 03:17 |
ScottK | Yeah, I guess it is. | 03:17 |
ScottK | rgreening: Certainly. | 03:18 |
rgreening | k .. working... | 03:18 |
ScottK | webdev is in Universe, but I think I got that one already. | 03:18 |
rgreening | ok | 03:19 |
ScottK | Back in a bit. | 03:19 |
ScottK | yeah. I did yesterday. | 03:19 |
ScottK | props to claydoh for 8.04.2 test results .... | 04:33 |
ScottK | If only he were here. | 04:33 |
* ScottK waves to a|wen. | 04:33 | |
a|wen | hi ScottK | 04:34 |
ScottK | \o/ - KDE fully built on armel too. | 04:35 |
ScottK | NCommander: ^^^ | 04:35 |
a|wen | cool | 04:35 |
a|wen | my connection broke during the night (~55%), so i'm in the process of rsync'ing the rest of the cd-image now | 04:36 |
ScottK | Great. My post to kubuntuforums has produced the expected amount of help. | 04:39 |
a|wen | perfect | 04:40 |
* a|wen sees that the mythtv people has rebuild without arts all by themselves :) | 04:40 | |
ScottK | Excellent. | 04:41 |
ScottK | a|wen: Since Lenny is supposed to release on the 14th, Debian people have started looking into dropping arts too. | 04:41 |
ScottK | I see you're on the appropriate channel. | 04:41 |
ScottK | Please speak up and pass on lesson's learned. | 04:42 |
a|wen | oh, perfect ... | 04:42 |
a|wen | most is pretty straight forward ... the only real problems was because they were old so they were FTBFS'ing on a no change rebuild in any case | 04:43 |
a|wen | ScottK: have you given them the bug number for our bug for arts removal? | 04:44 |
ScottK | I did not. | 04:44 |
a|wen | my connection comes and goes, so have nothing in my backlog about arts (-kde or -qt-kde channel?) | 04:45 |
ScottK | Looks like it was wdgt that was working on it. | 04:46 |
ScottK | They aren't in a big rush yet though. | 04:47 |
ScottK | It's #debian-qt-kde you want. | 04:47 |
* astromme tries to read a few more emails before collapsing into bed | 04:54 | |
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rgreening | fabo: ping | 06:11 |
Riddell | morning | 08:25 |
Riddell | 14 minutes to download amarok, waa | 08:25 |
Riddell | davmor2: almost full test coverage, excellent | 08:30 |
davmor2 | yes | 08:31 |
fabo | rgreening: pong | 08:31 |
davmor2 | ScottK, Riddell: on a plus side there seem to be no netboot iso's so I might be able to start on kubuntu hardy.2 today :) | 08:59 |
Riddell | nixternal: can you add this to the wiki? http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/kdebluetooth-wee.png on https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha4/Kubuntu I can't work out how and I don't have the bandwidth to do so | 09:00 |
Mamarok | Riddell: are there already 4.3 packages in the experimental PPA? | 09:50 |
Mamarok | my phonon package says 4.3 | 09:51 |
Riddell | Mamarok: phonon uses a different version scheme | 09:51 |
Riddell | dunno if Neon is on trunk yet | 09:51 |
Riddell | but I think we should focus on making 4.2 a work of perfection before moving on to 4.3 :) | 09:51 |
Mamarok | ok, I don't use Neon, only need a stable 4.2 ATM | 09:51 |
Mamarok | +1 | 09:52 |
Nightrose | Riddell: neon is always trunk | 09:56 |
Nightrose | anyone got any idea which package i need for bonjour support in kopete? | 09:56 |
Riddell | "crack of the day" | 09:56 |
Nightrose | it works on my desktop but not on the eeepc :/ | 09:56 |
Nightrose | and i can't find the package i am missing | 09:56 |
Riddell | Nightrose: /usr/lib/kde4/kopete_bonjour.so is included, it ought to just work | 09:56 |
Nightrose | mpfh | 09:57 |
Nightrose | damn | 09:57 |
* Nightrose checks if she has that file | 09:57 | |
Nightrose | hmmm | 10:00 |
Nightrose | i got that file | 10:00 |
* Nightrose wonders what else could be wrong | 10:01 | |
a|wen | Nightrose: firewall? | 10:01 |
Nightrose | no it doesn't show up at all as a protokol | 10:02 |
Nightrose | in the add account dialog | 10:02 |
a|wen | neither here on a intrepid w/4.2 | 10:03 |
Nightrose | hmmmmm i wonder why it works on my dektop with intrepid and 4.2 | 10:04 |
Nightrose | can someone else on 4.2 please check if they have bonjour listed? | 10:05 |
Riddell | it does seem to be lacking a .desktop file | 10:11 |
Riddell | and it's not in the Add Account dialogue in jaunty | 10:12 |
Nightrose | aha! | 10:12 |
Nightrose | thx Riddell :) | 10:12 |
Nightrose | JontheEchidna: ^ can you have a look? | 10:12 |
* Nightrose would love to have bonjour for fosdem | 10:12 | |
Riddell | Nightrose: add kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kopete_bonjour.desktop into /usr/share/kde4/services/ | 10:13 |
Riddell | run kbuildsycoca4 | 10:13 |
Riddell | quit and start kopete | 10:13 |
Nightrose | \o/ | 10:13 |
Nightrose | will try | 10:13 |
Nightrose | thy | 10:13 |
Nightrose | weheeeeeeee | 10:16 |
* Nightrose hugs Riddell | 10:16 | |
Nightrose | that did it | 10:16 |
Nightrose | nice | 10:18 |
Nightrose | works like a charm in my lan | 10:18 |
Riddell | I wonder if that's a packaging fault of a fault in the kopete build system | 10:22 |
Sput | gah, kopete crashes as soon as my collegue with pidgin on windows comes online with bonjour :( | 10:32 |
Sput | so FOSDEM could be hard... a single windows user might be able to bring all of us down :) | 10:32 |
Nightrose | *lol* | 10:34 |
Nightrose | that's hard | 10:34 |
Nightrose | but given the audience of fosdem we might be save | 10:34 |
Nightrose | :P | 10:34 |
Riddell | kget.install:usr/share/kde4/services/kopete_bonjour.desktop | 10:36 |
Riddell | what the naach?! | 10:36 |
Nightrose | that might explain why it works on my desktop... | 10:38 |
Nightrose | ;-) | 10:38 |
a|wen | ScottK: got the fullscreen problem solved, was compiz interfering... so back to 0 known regressions in 4.1.4, unless more have come up? | 10:42 |
ScottK | Not as far as I know. Great. | 11:11 |
ScottK | a|wen: Thanks for working through that. | 11:12 |
ScottK | a|wen: It'd probably be good if you commented in the supposed upstream bug on bugs.kde.org too. | 11:14 |
Riddell | Nightrose: fix uploaded to jaunty | 11:17 |
Riddell | and I got james to show me how to use bzr-buildpackage, yay | 11:18 |
Nightrose | Riddell: great - thx :) | 11:33 |
ScottK | a|wen: It looks like Bug #290768 needs verification again before we can copy 4.1.4. Up for that one? | 11:34 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 290768 in xine-lib "C format string specifications mismatch in translations crashes libxine based apps in some loales" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/290768 | 11:34 |
Tonio_ | hi | 12:22 |
Tonio_ | can people confirm they don't have an icon in PNM when connected wireless ? | 12:23 |
Tonio_ | I looked at the code and it should work... I'm a bit lost... | 12:23 |
Riddell | works for me | 12:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I notice we don't have l10n koffice packaged... | 12:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: hum local issue then :) | 12:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: what is your plan for jaunty ? eventually replace koffice/kde3 or not ? and therefore should I package the langpacks ? | 12:33 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: and your ppa amarok still depends on libmysqlclient16, which is in universe... | 12:35 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: seen you updated, trying the last version then :) | 12:37 |
Riddell | Tonio_: we do have https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/koffice-l10n | 12:37 |
Riddell | Tonio_: don't package the language pack for not, we can do that when koffice 2 is actually released and we replace the KDE 3 version | 12:38 |
a|wen | ScottK: i can see that you commented on the upstream bug, and he got it resolved too | 12:38 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: hum those are 1.6, that's my point :) | 12:38 |
Riddell | s/for not/for now/ | 12:38 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: oki doki, got it :) I was talking about the koffice2 langpacks, of course :) | 12:39 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: removed libmysqlclient16 and upgraded amarok, seems to start correctly this time, and my collection is still there ;) | 12:40 |
a|wen | ScottK: i'll look at the xine-lib one in a few hours, when i get to my other comp (without all the -experimental packages) | 12:40 |
Riddell | Tonio_: yay | 12:43 |
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Tonio_ | Riddell: where will you be at fosdem so that we can meet ? with the kde crew ? | 12:43 |
Riddell | Tonio_: at the beer event tonight I hope | 12:44 |
Riddell | not tonight, tomorrow | 12:44 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll arrive on saturday only... | 12:45 |
a|wen | ScottK: btw. i can confirm the part about uni-directional transfer only in kde4.2 http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=172267#c38 ... have you tested receiving from phone on kde4.1.4? | 12:47 |
ubottu | KDE bug 172267 in general "KDE bluetooth tray applet doesn't appear" [Crash,New] | 12:47 |
ScottK | I did not. I'm pretty new to bluetooth and still trying to figure out how it's supposed to work (for one week before the blue4 upgrade for Intrepid I had bluetooth). | 12:53 |
ScottK | I confirmed I have at least as much bluetooth as I had before, but not beyond that. | 12:53 |
ScottK | I'd mark the current bluetooth situation as definite progress. Dunno how much. | 12:53 |
a|wen | ScottK: it's definite progress, yeah; now something works... but would just note, that it was worth still keeping an eye on that bug | 12:56 |
ScottK | Agreed. | 12:56 |
ScottK | At this point it'd be better if people filed new bugs. | 12:56 |
rgreening | has anyone esle seen packagekit install updates without being told to? | 12:59 |
rgreening | ScottK, Riddell, JontheEchidna, Tonio_ ^ | 13:00 |
a|wen | fully ... let's get the 4.1.4 and kbluetooth0.3 into intrepid-proposed, and ask people kindly to file new bugs from now on | 13:00 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: by default I think there's a setting for that | 13:00 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: matter of default config, look in systemsettings | 13:01 |
rgreening | I had turned it off. THe package seems to override local settings | 13:01 |
rgreening | and now its back to security updates installed by default | 13:01 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: it asks politely for me :) | 13:01 |
rgreening | weird. | 13:01 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: did the package upgrade ? | 13:01 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: there is kiosk settings for kpackagekit atm... | 13:01 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: I have to fix this point... | 13:02 |
rgreening | Ill try turning it off again. | 13:02 |
rgreening | kiosk settings? | 13:02 |
Tonio_ | kubuntu default settings uses the kiosk mecanism ;) | 13:03 |
Tonio_ | kiosk is the 3 levels of config mecanism that makes it possible to override the defaults without patching apps, and without touching the user's settings | 13:03 |
Tonio_ | and also has an override user settings capability | 13:04 |
rgreening | which is what appears to have happened for me | 13:04 |
rgreening | there was a kds update | 13:04 |
rgreening | so that likely triggered it then | 13:04 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: you seem to be doing a great job at keeping KDE Forum posts on Kubuntu answered | 13:04 |
JontheEchidna | Thanks | 13:05 |
JontheEchidna | It helps with stopping disinformation and Kubuntu bashing :P | 13:05 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: by the way, I couldn't figure out how to kcm-ify software-properties-kde, but I did integrate it further with KDE | 13:07 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: I'm updating KDS with kpackagekit settings.... | 13:07 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: so that we can test on the live cd for example, default is to auto install security updates | 13:07 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: we probably don't want this by default right ? | 13:07 |
rgreening | Riddell: we need up upload update-notifier-kde 0.10 which had the support for updated notification system. | 13:08 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I prefer to be prompted... | 13:08 |
JontheEchidna | All the buttons have KIcons, the gpg key importing dialog is a KFileDialog, and the remove keys button is only active when the keys treeview is clicked, just like the buttons of other treeviews | 13:08 |
Riddell | rgreening: oh? who did that? | 13:10 |
Riddell | Tonio_: dunno, I'm not sure of the arguments for or against automatic install | 13:10 |
rgreening | Riddell: I had a loooooooong time ago. | 13:10 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: suppose you are about to leave, and you want to shutdown..... | 13:10 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: you might want to discard the update for tomorrow for example... | 13:11 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: excellent. did you have any paticular problems with making it a kcontrol module or did you just not know where to start? | 13:11 |
Riddell | Tonio_: that would be a problem | 13:11 |
rgreening | Riddell: https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-members/update-notifier-kde/trunk | 13:13 |
rgreening | 12 weeks | 13:13 |
rgreening | fix was committed re: bug 104411 | 13:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 104411 in update-notifier-kde "Adept notifer should use KNotify to notify updates" [Wishlist,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104411 | 13:14 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: I actually can't figure out how to make the GUI abstraction class a child of the SoftwareProperties class and the KCModule class | 13:14 |
JontheEchidna | at the same time | 13:15 |
JontheEchidna | *SoftwareProptertiesKDE | 13:15 |
Riddell | rgreening: poke me into uploading after the alpha is out | 13:16 |
rgreening | ok. | 13:16 |
rgreening | Riddell: then we need to look at what changes need to be made to make it co-exist/integrate with packagekit | 13:16 |
Riddell | rgreening: I was putting that off until packagekit gets into main :) | 13:17 |
rgreening | ah. good enough | 13:17 |
rgreening | I have a fix I am working on for kpackagekit. It needs an "Edit Software Sources" button to call software-properties-kde | 13:18 |
rgreening | under settings | 13:18 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I would favor kpackagekit asking what to do if you don't mind.... | 13:18 |
Tonio_ | seele: any opinion on that subject ? | 13:19 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: btw, how did the patch work out? | 13:19 |
JontheEchidna | for flash | 13:19 |
Riddell | Tonio_: I think I agree | 13:19 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: Umm.. not building ATM. | 13:19 |
JontheEchidna | :( | 13:19 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: I have an error in it. need to review | 13:20 |
JontheEchidna | you can do it! | 13:20 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: oki, changing kds then | 13:20 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: is it fine to upload right now or should I discard ? KDS ready here | 13:23 |
Riddell | Tonio_: wait | 13:25 |
Riddell | alpha not out yet | 13:25 |
Tonio_ | oki doki | 13:25 |
Riddell | so I think I got kdebluetooth to pair with my N810, but I can't get it to do anything else | 13:26 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: FYI, koffice2 ready too | 13:26 |
* Tonio_ can't test kdebluetooth anymore,since the iphone doesn't have bluetooth support.... | 13:26 | |
* Tonio_ can't wait for his n97... | 13:26 | |
Riddell | Tonio_: fancy doing that koffice 2 package for intrepid too? | 13:27 |
Tonio_ | yup | 13:27 |
Riddell | there's some changes needed but I can't remember what, look at the existing package in kubuntu-experimental or whereever it is | 13:27 |
Riddell | allee: fancy updating /usr/bin/kblueplugd? it still uses dcop | 13:28 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I was about to ask :) | 13:28 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: probably no time to do that today, but tomorrow, no pb | 13:28 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: I'll debdiff for beta5... THAT'LL HELP | 13:28 |
Tonio_ | oup | 13:29 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: s/kde/kde4/ is probably a required change, to start with... | 13:30 |
ScottK | Riddell: kdenetwork needs the libboost1.35 changes done to it too. I was holding off on that for the Alpha release though. | 13:30 |
Riddell | Tonio_: actually https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/intrepid/+source/koffice2/1:1.9.98.5-0ubuntu1~intrepid1 seems to suggest it doesn't need any changes | 13:32 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: great, maybe except from the doc path then :) we switched from kde4 to kde with 4.2... | 13:32 |
ghostcube | heh german C'T tested 3 distros FC SuSE and Ubuntu the only system that could be upgraded out of the box with no hazle was ubuntu and kubuntu :D | 13:33 |
ghostcube | all the others had crashes afterwards | 13:33 |
Riddell | Tonio_: hmm, yes | 13:33 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: jaunty version uploading to my ppa for a first test... | 13:33 |
Tonio_ | local built went find | 13:34 |
ScottK | Riddell: I saw one of the Debian KDE people mention yesterday that they thought Koffice2 as is worked better with KDE4 than the release Koffice. | 13:34 |
Riddell | ScottK: you can fix it in bzr though in the mean time (and yes, I entirely forgot the alpha freeze, oops) | 13:34 |
ScottK | Perhaps we should just switch. | 13:34 |
Riddell | ScottK: maybe, I might ask the koffice pepole at fosdem what they think | 13:34 |
ScottK | That'd certainly simplify some things. | 13:34 |
Tonio_ | ScottK: I really appreciate koffice, so I'll try to use it at work for a week | 13:35 |
JontheEchidna | By the way, Qt copy now has patches for systray icons | 13:35 |
JontheEchidna | bug 291529 | 13:35 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 291529 in qt4-x11 "Notification area visually corrupted when using qt4 applications (Skype)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/291529 | 13:35 |
ScottK | Riddell: At a glance it doesn't appear your latest upload is in bzr for kdenetwork. | 13:36 |
Riddell | ScottK: oh, hang on | 13:36 |
Tonio_ | Riddell, ScottK: https://edge.launchpad.net/~tonio/+archive/ppa to test koffice.... probably toonight, I hope | 13:37 |
Riddell | ScottK: pushing, james_w was showing me bzr-buildpackage and did a branch instead of my usual checkout | 13:37 |
ghostcube | JontheEchidna: cool this is really nice | 13:37 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: have you tested them? | 13:37 |
ScottK | I'm about to leave for some meetings and I'll be offline most of the day. | 13:37 |
ghostcube | by ScottK | 13:37 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: nope, I plan to do so soon unless someone else wants to | 13:37 |
ScottK | Riddell: The best thing I learned about bzr recently wrt branches was bzr push :parent. | 13:38 |
ScottK | Then it just goes back where you branched it from. | 13:38 |
ghostcube | JontheEchidna: is there an package to test it i can do later if the icon garbage gets away :D | 13:38 |
ghostcube | at work at the moment | 13:38 |
JontheEchidna | ghostcube: I'll definitely put it in my ppa since it'd take many hours for me to build it locally | 13:39 |
ghostcube | ok :) | 13:39 |
JontheEchidna | you running jaunty? | 13:39 |
ghostcube | oh only jaunty ? | 13:39 |
ghostcube | iam on intrepid | 13:39 |
JontheEchidna | well, I could do both but I'd have to ask to increase my space limit | 13:39 |
ghostcube | oh if its too much trouble i can wait till its confimed | 13:40 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: Or start a new team. | 13:40 |
ghostcube | :D | 13:40 |
JontheEchidna | heh | 13:41 |
Riddell | Sime: meet at the beer event tomorrow? | 13:55 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: are there problems with the ppas ? I can't upload koffice.... it stops arround 30/60% | 13:55 |
Riddell | Tonio_: they might be enforcing quotas now, are you over 1GB? | 13:55 |
Tonio_ | I don't think so... lemme look | 13:56 |
Tonio_ | no, since I deleted my previous koffice, should feet | 13:56 |
Tonio_ | I suspect a dput issue.... trying manual upload with konq | 13:57 |
JontheEchidna | By the way, the Qt system tray patches are all included in Qt 4.5.0 | 14:04 |
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JontheEchidna | Do we want to patch it now or wait until Qt 4.5 is out and just update? | 14:04 |
knusperfrosch | toPyObject segfault on a QVariant in ppa's python-qt4 :( | 14:07 |
* JontheEchidna goes ahead and does the systray patches | 14:09 | |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: it's not clear if we'll be using 4.5 or not, we're still to see if it's stable enough | 14:09 |
JontheEchidna | OK | 14:10 |
glatzor | Riddell, Hello, could you sponsor a new packagekit upload? | 14:10 |
Riddell | glatzor: sure | 14:12 |
Riddell | infact, I'd love to if it fixes the MIR issues :) | 14:12 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: * Estimated archive size: 534.9 MiB | 14:13 |
Tonio_ | View build records Copy packages Delete packages | 14:13 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: dunno what to do.... manual upload with konq also stops.... | 14:13 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: someone to ping for that ? | 14:13 |
Riddell | not unless you know where the problem is | 14:14 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: trying to upload on my ftp... if that works, then ppa's ftp the cause | 14:14 |
glatzor | Riddell, which one do you refer? the dbus policies should be sufficient now. | 14:15 |
Tonio_ | rahhhhhhhh same problem.... | 14:16 |
Tonio_ | Riddell: conclusion : ath9k sucks.... or my ISP sucks.... | 14:16 |
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seele | Tonio_: kpackagekit asking to do what now? | 14:22 |
Riddell | seele: to install updates, by default it just installs them without any user intervention | 14:25 |
Tonio__ | Riddell: uploaded, that's ath9k buffer issue...... | 14:25 |
Tonio__ | Sput: just found a little usability issue with quassel... | 14:26 |
Tonio__ | Sput: when the nickname is already in use, you are prompted to type in "/nick newnick" | 14:26 |
Tonio__ | but it won't let you type anything :) | 14:26 |
Sput | ah yes, I wanted to change that to generate a random name | 14:26 |
Tonio__ | Sput: or let people type in the command, eventually no ? | 14:26 |
Sput | once it has tried all your alternative nicks | 14:26 |
Sput | yeah, or that :) | 14:26 |
Tonio__ | Sput: :) | 14:27 |
rgreening | Tonio_: I have a new patch for Kpackagekit | 14:27 |
Tonio__ | rgreening: please send, I'll put on my ppa :) | 14:27 |
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rgreening | Tonio_: I wrote a patch to add support for "Edit Software Sources" like in Adept | 14:27 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: you rock :) | 14:28 |
rgreening | Tonio_: :) I'm test building here... it should be fine.. I'll send after test build | 14:28 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: can you pastebin it to me ? | 14:28 |
rgreening | yep. right after I verify all is good. | 14:28 |
rgreening | 5 min or so... | 14:28 |
seele | Riddell: oh dear, yes.. users must be able to say when they want to install or not. the only "automatic" thing would be checking to see if there are updates to install | 14:31 |
ScottK | rgreening: Ask and yea shall receive: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/ports/daily/current/jaunty-alternate-lpia.iso | 14:33 |
rgreening | ScottK: OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 14:39 |
rgreening | ScottK: I'm so installing that tonight | 14:39 |
rgreening | ScottK: ty for your effort on ports +1,000,000,000... | 14:40 |
Riddell | rgreening: what will you install it on? | 14:41 |
rgreening | Riddell: I recently purchased an Acer One... Since I had my 17in Laptop at UDS.. it was too much to carry around. The Acer One is a beter option for travel. | 14:41 |
rgreening | Tonio_: I have a small issue.... | 14:49 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: ah ? | 14:51 |
rgreening | Tonio_: kpackagekit needs to be restarted after install to reload and be able to show the new button. I wonder if we should add a restart/reboot hook | 14:52 |
rgreening | prob doesn't matter in the long run...... | 14:53 |
* JontheEchidna sorta thinks that only the kpackagekit settings should be accessible from systemsettings, not the whole thing | 14:53 | |
JontheEchidna | package management isn't really a configuration option imo :P | 14:54 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: That is easy enough to change (I believe) if we want that. I can have a look | 14:55 |
JontheEchidna | yeah, should be a matter of editing .desktop files | 14:55 |
rgreening | Tonio_: how is kpackagekit run from root the first time | 14:55 |
JontheEchidna | we should probably ask before we patch though | 14:55 |
Riddell | rgreening: what sort of chip does that use? | 14:56 |
rgreening | Riddell: Atom (which I assume is lpia?) | 14:56 |
Riddell | yes | 14:56 |
rgreening | Riddell: cool | 14:57 |
rgreening | I installed the regular x86 of Intrepid... runs fine. I hope to squeeze a little more with the lpia | 14:57 |
rgreening | Tonio_: another issue. How do I add software-properties-kde to packagekit to allow it to run with admin rights when launched via kpackagekit? | 15:01 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: easy way -> kdesudo | 15:01 |
rgreening | Tonio_: but that will ask user for password right? | 15:02 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: hard way -> policykit since you'll have to patch kpackagekit templates for policykit and that'll have to be maintained | 15:02 |
rgreening | Tonio_: or is that what we want? | 15:02 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: yeah | 15:02 |
Tonio_ | best way is going policykit, but that's harder to maintain on the long term :) | 15:02 |
rgreening | Tonio_: so the package would then need to dep on kdesudo and software-properties-kde | 15:04 |
rgreening | hmm.. | 15:04 |
rgreening | Tonio_: I think policykit-kde/gnome would need to be updated for the policykit route. | 15:06 |
JontheEchidna | patches Qt uploaded to my ppa | 15:07 |
JontheEchidna | *patched | 15:07 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: which version and whats the patch | 15:09 |
JontheEchidna | 4.4.3, with qt-copy 0269, 270, and 271 | 15:10 |
JontheEchidna | and crap, I forgot to give it a ~ppan | 15:10 |
JontheEchidna | it'll fix systray corruption | 15:11 |
JontheEchidna | bbiab | 15:12 |
rgreening | Riddell: I have a patch for kpackagekit. The issue is it currently calls software-properties-kde and requires admin privs to do so. So, do I 1) call with kdesuo 2) try and figure out policykit. After that, there is also the question of allowing software-properties-[kde|gtk] in the patch (easy enough I guess) and make the package dep on either or; as well, if we require kdesudo, then it also begs the question of gksu, kdesu... | 15:16 |
rgreening | thoughts? | 15:16 |
Riddell | rgreening: just use kdesudo I guess | 15:16 |
Riddell | we can ask glatzor if he has any plans to port it to policykit | 15:16 |
Riddell | ah, hello :) | 15:17 |
Riddell | rgreening: use /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu | 15:17 |
Riddell | glatzor: have you considered porting software-properties to policykit? | 15:17 |
rgreening | glatzor: it would be very nice to have software-properties in policykit. | 15:18 |
rgreening | Riddell: any reason for kdesu vs kdesudo? Are we shitching back to kdesu? | 15:18 |
rgreening | switching.... | 15:18 |
Riddell | rgreening: /usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu is kdesudo (we use dpkg-diverts) | 15:19 |
rgreening | oh | 15:19 |
Riddell | if you uninstall kdesudo is becomes kdesu again | 15:19 |
rgreening | never knew that | 15:19 |
Riddell | how do I delete stuff from a PPA? | 15:40 |
JontheEchidna | there's a delete page | 15:41 |
JontheEchidna | on the web interface | 15:41 |
Riddell | oh, I'm not logged in | 15:41 |
JontheEchidna | whoa, kdevelop4 beta 1 | 15:43 |
JontheEchidna | do we want that? | 15:43 |
JontheEchidna | oh, it's already in kubuntu-experimental | 15:44 |
Riddell | I'm way ahead of you :) | 15:45 |
JontheEchidna | well what can you expect from the Kubuntu robot? :P | 15:45 |
rgreening | Riddell: there is a dep on adept in update-notifier-kde. That will need to be updated as well for kpackagekit | 15:51 |
Riddell | rgreening: only if we still use update-notifier-kde for it | 15:52 |
rgreening | Riddell: ok. Well, at the very least, the adept dep will go away along with the bits related to it (whether kpackagekit is integrated or not) | 15:53 |
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Riddell | fabo, rgreening: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/02/05/onwards-and-upwards/ http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2009/02/05/the-new-and-improved-qt-creator-092-rc/ | 16:13 |
allee | Riddell: kblueplugd dcop -> solid port? Sounds interesting. I'll have a look if Tonio isn't faster | 16:15 |
Riddell | allee: well it only uses dcop to quit the app, that can be ported to dbus easily enough | 16:17 |
rgreening | Riddell: cool. dling now | 16:18 |
JontheEchidna | hotness | 16:19 |
* JontheEchidna might consider upgrading to 4.5 once he's done patching 4.4.3 | 16:20 | |
yao_ziyuan | i'm very interested in "pidgin-knotify" which lets pidgin use kde's knotify notification system to show buddy status changes. it seems to be included in fedora, and i'd like to see it in kubuntu. | 16:20 |
Riddell | yao_ziyuan: sounds like a cludge, we have people working on making notifications work across desktops for all apps | 16:21 |
yao_ziyuan | Riddell: my dictionary doesn't have 'cludge'... | 16:21 |
yao_ziyuan | but i guess you mean 'redundant'? | 16:22 |
Riddell | messy fix | 16:22 |
allee | Riddell: ah, right. Btw dbus. kdbus always hang on startup (since feisty?) and is kde3. So maybe time to remove from archive :( | 16:22 |
jussi01 | Riddell: is the new kdevelop 4 package the kdevelop-kde4 i see? | 16:22 |
Riddell | jussi01: yes | 16:22 |
Riddell | allee: confirmed, I'll remove it | 16:23 |
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jussi01 | Riddell: thank you. :) | 16:23 |
* jussi01 installs... | 16:23 | |
glatzor | Riddell, rgreening. It is on my agenda to use policykit/dbus for software-properties, but it's already quiet long :) | 16:24 |
Riddell | glatzor: no rush :) | 16:25 |
JontheEchidna | so who do I speak to to get patches in to software-properties? | 16:25 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: put them in yourself? :) | 16:26 |
rgreening | :) | 16:26 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: I'm not a core dev | 16:26 |
glatzor | JontheEchidna, mvo | 16:26 |
JontheEchidna | glatzor: thanks | 16:26 |
rgreening | Riddell: who can upload kpackagekit updates? | 16:31 |
Riddell | rgreening: any MOTU | 16:32 |
rgreening | ok. JontheEchidna... | 16:32 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: I will open a bug report shortly for a patch for kpackagekit | 16:32 |
JontheEchidna | ok, I can sponsor | 16:33 |
maco | any reports of the battery thing in the notification area showing really insane values in jaunty? like "43%. 7 hours remaining"? | 16:33 |
rgreening | k. It adds software-properties-kde support to Settings pane | 16:33 |
JontheEchidna | schweet | 16:33 |
rgreening | :) | 16:33 |
rgreening | who da man | 16:33 |
JontheEchidna | you da man | 16:34 |
Riddell | maco: no but that would be a hal issue | 16:34 |
rgreening | awww yeah | 16:34 |
JontheEchidna | lol | 16:34 |
rgreening | ;) | 16:34 |
* JontheEchidna sends along his improvements patch to mvo | 16:34 | |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: after that, I'll get back to the kdelibs flash | 16:34 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening++ | 16:34 |
rgreening | are you able to sponsor that too? | 16:35 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: ^ I assume yes | 16:35 |
Riddell | glatzor: you want me to upload packagekit (0.3.14-0ubuntu1) right? | 16:35 |
JontheEchidna | nope, kdelibs is in main | 16:35 |
rgreening | oh... | 16:35 |
JontheEchidna | a core-dev would need to sponsor it | 16:35 |
JontheEchidna | and we're in alpha freeze | 16:35 |
JontheEchidna | you could upload it to bzr though | 16:36 |
rgreening | k. np it casn go to queue. | 16:36 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: sure. I'll ping you later about it then... | 16:36 |
jussi01 | Riddell: did your suggestions make it to the quassel tracker? | 16:40 |
Riddell | I've no idea | 16:40 |
glatzor | Riddell, could you wait a minute? | 16:40 |
maco | Riddell: ok | 16:40 |
jussi01 | Sput: ^^ | 16:40 |
Sput | jussi01: no | 16:41 |
* jussi01 scrolls back to find them and add them... | 16:41 | |
rgreening | Riddell / JontheEchidna: bug 320012... does this mean it's in main? | 16:42 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 320012 in kpackagekit "main inclusion report for kpackagekit" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/320012 | 16:42 |
rgreening | or waiting | 16:42 |
JontheEchidna | waiting for some packagekit fixes | 16:43 |
rgreening | ok | 16:43 |
jussi01 | Sput: done. basic, but cover it. :) | 16:46 |
Sput | cool thx :) | 16:47 |
JontheEchidna | ugh, Qt still has another 2 hours to go | 16:55 |
smarter | rgreening: planning to package 4.5rc1 ? ;) | 16:57 |
glatzor | Riddell, you could upload 0.3.14 now. | 17:05 |
glatzor | Riddell, there is an issue with the python client bindings. But they will be fixed later. | 17:05 |
glatzor | Riddell, issue means not working :) | 17:06 |
rgreening | smarter: YEP | 17:15 |
smarter | w00t | 17:15 |
rgreening | smarter: working on two other things atm | 17:15 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: sorry I got isp issue in the middle of the discussion :) | 17:29 |
rgreening | np | 17:38 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: did Riddell give his opinion on the issue ? | 17:38 |
rgreening | ya | 17:39 |
Tonio_ | and ? | 17:39 |
rgreening | using kdesu for now | 17:39 |
Tonio_ | kdesudo way ? | 17:39 |
Tonio_ | oki | 17:39 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: in the bug report, should I add udate or patch as a tag? | 17:41 |
jjesse | wow downloading alpha4 and getting 5.5KB/sec transfer rate | 17:41 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: patch, I guess. It doesn't matter too much | 17:41 |
rgreening | k | 17:43 |
ghostcube | JontheEchidna, is it building on intrepid too ? | 17:51 |
ghostcube | *for | 17:51 |
JontheEchidna | ghostcube: Qt? | 17:56 |
ghostcube | yes | 17:56 |
JontheEchidna | nope, just jaunty | 17:56 |
ghostcube | ok :) | 17:56 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: the bug for the kpackagekit change is bug 325846, but I still have to add the attachments. I am redoing them now... so shortly. I'll ping ya. | 18:03 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 325846 in kpackagekit "Add support for editing software properties via software-properties-kde" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325846 | 18:03 |
JontheEchidna | k | 18:03 |
rgreening | I hate trying to manipulate QStringLists.........grr | 18:26 |
JontheEchidna | Qt with systray patches is built for Jaunty in my ppa (echidnaman), if anyone wants to test | 18:29 |
JontheEchidna | brb, restarting X | 18:57 |
a|wen | ScottK: the xine-lib bug is simply not something i seem to be able to reproduce; i've tried to get xine to crash, but it is simply not possible for me | 18:57 |
JontheEchidna | Hmm | 19:02 |
JontheEchidna | no more corrupted icons or flickering | 19:02 |
JontheEchidna | but now kmail's icon doesn't show | 19:03 |
JontheEchidna | the systray icon still works, but no icon | 19:03 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: ping... bug 325846 updated with appropriate attachments. I added the diff.gz, debdiff and dsc. you need anything else? | 19:05 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 325846 in kpackagekit "Add support for editing software properties via software-properties-kde" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325846 | 19:05 |
JontheEchidna | that should be fine | 19:05 |
rgreening | k. upy loady for lots of fun | 19:05 |
rgreening | :P | 19:05 |
rgreening | Tonio_: ^^^^ | 19:06 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: is going to upload. You should grab the patch, etc from the bug or the upload once done. | 19:06 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: hu ? | 19:06 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: testing... | 19:06 |
rgreening | Tonio_: for kpackagekit ^ | 19:06 |
rgreening | :) | 19:07 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: excellent :) | 19:07 |
a|wen | ScottK: and the file sending only being uni-directional is the same in kde4.1.4 ... so behavior in 4.1.4 is at least as good as in kde4.2 :) | 19:08 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: ouch you patched the sources directly ;) | 19:09 |
rgreening | ? | 19:09 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: I have to rewrite that in the form of a patch then... | 19:09 |
rgreening | Tonio_: no | 19:09 |
rgreening | Tonio_: there is a patch in the diff.gz | 19:09 |
rgreening | or the other diff | 19:09 |
JontheEchidna | The patch looks pretty straightforward, nice catch on the duplicate build-dep | 19:09 |
Tonio_ | ho yeah, sorry | 19:10 |
rgreening | :) | 19:10 |
rgreening | ty JontheEchidna :) | 19:10 |
* JontheEchidna testbuilds | 19:10 | |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: the patch is actually quite simple. I took me a while cause of the kdesu and stupid passing QStringLists around incorrectly... | 19:10 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: if you install the deb locally after building, you need to kill all kpackagekit processes or you don't get the new version running with the button. | 19:12 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: or reboot. | 19:12 |
JontheEchidna | ok | 19:12 |
JontheEchidna | chugging nicely along now | 19:12 |
rgreening | should only take a few mins JontheEchidna | 19:13 |
rgreening | :P | 19:13 |
JontheEchidna | yup, looks like it'll be a short one | 19:13 |
rgreening | heh. Now, I need to fix kde4libs with the flash patch... attempt number gazillion | 19:13 |
JontheEchidna | lol | 19:13 |
JontheEchidna | 36% built | 19:14 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: should I have subscribed one of the motu addresses to the bug? | 19:15 |
JontheEchidna | ubuntu-universe-sponsors, but since you can just ping me here it's not that big of a deal | 19:15 |
rgreening | okies. I'll prob go for motu after Jaunty | 19:15 |
JontheEchidna | it's mainly a piece of red tape necessary for the larger dev community of ubuntu | 19:16 |
JontheEchidna | doesn't hurt to subscribe it though | 19:16 |
JontheEchidna | and yes, you should go for motu after jaunty | 19:16 |
JontheEchidna | heck, you probably could go for motu right before jaunty since you came in near the end of intrepid | 19:17 |
rgreening | I could... I may. I need to read up on a lot and make some more chatter in motu channel :) | 19:18 |
JontheEchidna | I'll confess, I only joined #ubuntu-motu a week or so before I made my application. I wouldn't recommend that though :P | 19:18 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: I'll upload after the freeze, seems good :) | 19:18 |
rgreening | Tonio_: JontheEchidna was taking care of it. I just wanted to make you aware as you have a PPA with snapshots in it. | 19:19 |
JontheEchidna | Tonio_: is universe affected by the alpha freeze too? | 19:19 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: for kpackagekit, there is a bzr branch on the packagekit project... | 19:19 |
rgreening | I'll let you two hash it out :) | 19:20 |
rgreening | hehe | 19:20 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: I have commit access so please let me know when you upload so that I can update the bzr trunk | 19:20 |
JontheEchidna | oh, ok. I understand now | 19:20 |
rgreening | yay. I get commited | 19:20 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: no but it'll be promoted soon, there is a MIR fot this one | 19:20 |
rgreening | I should be committed | 19:20 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: have commit access . | 19:21 |
JontheEchidna | it's just about done, lintian's going | 19:21 |
rgreening | :P | 19:21 |
JontheEchidna | lintian just crapped it's pants, lol | 19:21 |
rgreening | weird | 19:21 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: + do you have commit access ? | 19:21 |
JontheEchidna | O.o | 19:21 |
JontheEchidna | W: kpackagekit: package-name-doesnt-match-sonames libkpackagekitlib | 19:22 |
JontheEchidna | libkpackagekitlib? | 19:22 |
rgreening | Tonio_: no, I was making a play on words. | 19:22 |
stdin | one day, I will make libliblib a reality ;) | 19:22 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: ah...... sorry for my bad english then :) | 19:22 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: if your pbuilder updated | 19:22 |
Tonio_ | JontheEchidna: you probably can ignore that one.... or override if that really matter you :) | 19:23 |
JontheEchidna | I'm just wondering why they chose that name... | 19:23 |
Tonio_ | rgreening: just tested, the patch works like a charm | 19:23 |
rgreening | ah | 19:23 |
rgreening | Tonio_: sweet stuff | 19:23 |
JontheEchidna | heh, love kpackagekit's console output | 19:23 |
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JontheEchidna | works like a charm here to | 19:24 |
JontheEchidna | *too | 19:24 |
rgreening | I had a mind to add "Go Go Gadget EditSources!" in my patch | 19:24 |
JontheEchidna | lmao | 19:24 |
rgreening | But I figured Dr. Claw would ixnay that real quick | 19:25 |
JontheEchidna | ok, so I'll upload to Ubuntu then Tonio_ will upload to bzr? | 19:25 |
rgreening | sounds good | 19:26 |
jpds | ~[6~[6~[6~[6~[6~/12 | 19:27 |
jpds | Gah, sorry. | 19:27 |
JontheEchidna | Tonio_, rgreening: uploaded | 19:28 |
JontheEchidna | Thanks for your contribution to Kubuntu | 19:29 |
rgreening | coo-coo-coo :) | 19:29 |
rgreening | yw | 19:29 |
JontheEchidna | A lot of internal errors seem to occur | 19:32 |
rgreening | where | 19:32 |
JontheEchidna | in kpackagekit | 19:33 |
rgreening | like? | 19:33 |
JontheEchidna | "the sychronous request took too long, you need to fork | 19:33 |
JontheEchidna | " | 19:33 |
maco | when suspending in kde, the screen should be locked on resume, right? (it normally is) | 19:33 |
JontheEchidna | not related to your patch though | 19:33 |
maco | has anything changed in the kde screensaver (i assume that handles screen lock) in jaunty in the last 2 days that would explain why this time it wasnt locked? | 19:34 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: one thing, software-properties-kde doesn't ask me to reload the package lists after I add a new repo | 19:37 |
rgreening | nope. I never added that bit of functionality in. | 19:38 |
JontheEchidna | it's built in to s-p-kde | 19:38 |
* JontheEchidna wonders why it didn't ask him to reload | 19:38 | |
rgreening | no I mean I would need to tell it to reload | 19:38 |
rgreening | and I didn't | 19:39 |
JontheEchidna | oh, right | 19:39 |
rgreening | :) | 19:39 |
JontheEchidna | hmm | 19:39 |
rgreening | however, if you go to Updates pane in kpackagekit you update sources there. | 19:39 |
rgreening | ie reload. | 19:39 |
rgreening | I'll work on a v2 of the patch to see about adding that bit in. It'll be a bit more extensiive to do that | 19:40 |
JontheEchidna | you can also turn on/off existing sources in the settings place already... I wonder if it wouldn't be smarter to just remove the "Origin of Packages" groupbox and do all the editing with our app | 19:40 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: it sucks in kpk | 19:40 |
jjesse | anyone else using bittorrent to download the alpha? only getting 1.2kb/sec on transfer :( | 19:40 |
rgreening | ya | 19:40 |
rgreening | ya to JontheEchidna | 19:40 |
JontheEchidna | anyway, the feature is in before feature freeze | 19:41 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: I don't like the origin implementation either. | 19:41 |
rgreening | whee | 19:41 |
rgreening | I'll look at adding the reload piece, not I have the gutz implemented and the main required functionality. | 19:42 |
rgreening | s/not/now | 19:42 |
rgreening | but first kde4libs must bend to my will | 19:42 |
JontheEchidna | heh | 19:42 |
rgreening | ok, uploading again to ppa.... """build for the love of god and all that is good in this souless existance!""" | 19:45 |
LaserJock | jjesse: seems like torrents would be a bad idea for Alphas, I wouldn't think you'd ever get enough people to seed | 19:45 |
JontheEchidna | anyway, does anybody have time to test my Qt build in Jaunty? | 19:45 |
* JontheEchidna is a bit worried since his kmail tray icon is blank | 19:45 | |
rgreening | I would, but I am running qt4.5.0 and have my kde built agianst it | 19:45 |
JontheEchidna | but the flickering and corruption are gone, which is great! | 19:47 |
JontheEchidna | in fact, we should just ship the patch and tell our users to cut up a Post-it (tm) note and draw a kmail icon on it, then stick it to their monitor | 19:48 |
rgreening | lol | 19:55 |
jussi01 | can someone tell me what the "working directory" is when you start something from alt+f2? apparently quassel logs there when it crashes... | 19:58 |
maco | jussi01: ~/Documents | 20:02 |
jussi01 | maco: thanks!!! | 20:02 |
maco | that reminds me: why is that that kde keeps opening my terminals in ~/Documents instead of ~? | 20:03 |
maco | jussi01: guess how i did that? "pwd > ~/Desktop/file" didn't do anything. so i did "touch dirhere" in the krunner then "find . -name dirhere" from ~ | 20:03 |
jussi01 | maco: hehe, I should thought of that. | 20:04 |
maco | no, that falls into the non-obvious category | 20:04 |
stdin | maco, jussi01: Alt-F2: kdialog --msgbox ${PWD} | 20:05 |
stdin | :) | 20:05 |
maco | the first one made sense. the way the worked did NOT | 20:05 |
maco | kdialog? | 20:05 |
* maco goes to the manpages | 20:05 | |
maco | >< man 7 undocumented | 20:05 |
stdin | kdialog gives you a KDE message box | 20:05 |
stdin | see kdialog --help | 20:05 |
stdin | there was a manpage, but it seems to have gotten lost in kde3 -> kde4 | 20:06 |
maco | file bug? | 20:06 |
smarter | it was probably the same as kdialog --help anyway | 20:06 |
stdin | probably | 20:06 |
maco | so kdialog is like zenity then? | 20:06 |
stdin | yeah, just better | 20:06 |
maco | ok | 20:06 |
vandenoever | hello my beauties, i've been trying (early, i admit) the kdevelop-kde4 package | 20:49 |
vandenoever | it is missing most plugins | 20:49 |
vandenoever | so effectively it is not useable except as text editor | 20:49 |
Quintasan | How should I name the dir for package made for svn? | 20:55 |
Quintasan | from* | 20:55 |
Quintasan | <package name>-<revision number>svn? | 20:55 |
ScottK | a|wen: Thanks for looking into it. | 20:56 |
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ScottK | Quintasan: I recommend either <package name>-<last version>svn<revision number> or <package name>~<next version>svn<revision number> | 21:16 |
Quintasan | ScottK: thanks, I'm trying to build rbutil :P | 21:19 |
ScottK | Quintasan: I just realized I made a mistake on that. | 21:20 |
ScottK | Quintasan: The 2nd one shold be <package name>-<next version>~svn<revision number> | 21:20 |
ScottK | And the first one lacks a - | 21:20 |
Quintasan | ScottK: dh_make -e <my mail> --createorig will be a good solution? | 21:23 |
* ScottK doesn't recall. | 21:24 | |
ScottK | It's been ages since I actually started with dh_make. I normally copy a similar package and start with that. | 21:25 |
* Lure is glad that he is not alone ;-) | 21:25 | |
Quintasan | ScottK: I have only the svn code, there was no package :P | 21:25 |
knusperfrosch | are i18n packages for 3.5.10 in hardy-backports? | 21:26 |
ScottK | knusperfrosch: You want to get 3.5.10 frim hardy-updates | 21:27 |
ScottK | Quintasan: If there's never been a release then do 0.0 as release. | 21:27 |
Quintasan | ScottK: I mean there was no package for ubuntu | 21:28 |
ScottK | Oh. | 21:28 |
ScottK | I generally find something I think is similar and start with that. | 21:28 |
ScottK | You may not always be able to. | 21:29 |
knusperfrosch | ScottK: k, so hardy-updates doesn't ship i18n packages? got 3.5.9 here | 21:30 |
ScottK | It may not. | 21:30 |
* ScottK looks over at Riddell and wonders if he know. | 21:30 | |
ScottK | s | 21:30 |
Quintasan | Hmm I can compile it by typing qmake and make, the debuild fails to do so :/ | 21:30 |
Quintasan | $(MAKE) <--- what exacly this does? | 21:31 |
stdin | Quintasan: $(MAKE) expends to the make executable, in our case "/usr/bin/make" | 22:06 |
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ScottK | Riddell: I admire your talent for understatement. | 22:30 |
alleeJaunty | Riddell:, Tonio_: kbluetooth4 stops running itself (bug or feature) when the adpater is unpluged/turned off. If this is by design, there no need to replace the stop via dcop with a dbus equvalent | 22:32 |
alleeJaunty | I've asked tpatzig in #kdebluetooth if that's an bug or feature | 22:32 |
ScottK | alleeJaunty: It's a bug as it crashes. | 22:33 |
alleeJaunty | ScottK: okay | 22:34 |
ScottK | alleeJaunty: We were looking for someone on Jaunty to install the needed ddebs and get a proper backtrace | 22:34 |
alleeJaunty | ScottK: please refresh my memory how to install ddebs | 22:35 |
alleeJaunty | !ddebs | 22:35 |
ubottu | ddebs is See http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs/ and https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-announce/2006-September/000195.html for documentation | 22:35 |
ScottK | I'm glad you knew that one | 22:35 |
alleeJaunty | :) | 22:35 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: ^^^ We got our kdebluetooth tester. | 22:36 |
* alleeJaunty waves | 22:36 | |
JontheEchidna | yay | 22:37 |
alleeJaunty | Is there a neW: Konnte http://people.ubuntu.com/~pitti/ddebs/dists/jaunty/main/binary-amd64/Packages nicht holen 301 Moved Permanently | 22:41 |
alleeJaunty | ah: ddebs.ubuntu.com | 22:41 |
ScottK | boost transition for kdenetwork is done. | 22:44 |
alleeJaunty | ScottK, JontheEchidna: there are only dbg-sym for version 0ubuntu1 for amd64, no 0ubuntu2 yet :( Strange is that aptitude search kblueooth-dbgsym does not even find the 0ubuntu1 version (maybe bacause it's out of date). So no dbgsym yet :( | 22:55 |
alleeJaunty | kdeblueooth-dbgsym that is | 22:56 |
ScottK | The only change was an added bild dep, so it should be fine | 22:56 |
ScottK | bild dep/depends | 22:56 |
ScottK | obex-data-server, iirc | 22:57 |
alleeJaunty | okay, then I'll install 'by hand'. Ah stop obex-data-server that the last output before the crash ;) | 22:57 |
JontheEchidna | Does anybody here running Jaunty use KMail with its systray icon? | 22:58 |
ScottK | Even with obex-data-server installed, it'll still crash. | 22:59 |
* ScottK can easily reproduce (on Intrepid) by turning off the 'airplane mode' switch. | 22:59 | |
* ScottK needs to run off. Good luck. | 23:00 | |
alleeJaunty | thx | 23:00 |
* JontheEchidna supposes it wouldn't hurt to see if rebooting helps | 23:00 | |
JontheEchidna | kmail's ok now, must have been a fluke | 23:15 |
JontheEchidna | on the down side.... | 23:15 |
JontheEchidna | the legacy nvidia driver no longer works despite my pinning xserver and the driver before upgrading to intrepid (and it did work for a while...) | 23:16 |
alleeJaunty | JontheEchidna: apport seem to ignore the kblueooth4 crashes. How do I reset so I get a backtrace? | 23:16 |
* JontheEchidna disables apport | 23:16 | |
JontheEchidna | to do that | 23:17 |
JontheEchidna | hmm, how do you do that | 23:17 |
JontheEchidna | there's a config file you gotta modify somewhere... | 23:18 |
rgreening | o/ JontheEchidna | 23:19 |
JontheEchidna | \o | 23:19 |
JontheEchidna | alleeJaunty: Riddell knows how to disable apport and use the regular KDE crash dialog | 23:21 |
rgreening | dam kde4libs still FTBFS | 23:21 |
JontheEchidna | I suppose you could uninstall it for the time being | 23:21 |
alleeJaunty | JontheEchidna: looks like that's an option: apport-cli -c /var/crash/_usr_bin_kbluetooth4.1000.crash bugreport is uploading ... | 23:22 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: the no-systray-garbage patches are working great | 23:24 |
JontheEchidna | not even any flickering | 23:24 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: are those patches committed already for Qt 4.5.0 | 23:24 |
rgreening | I believe they are | 23:24 |
JontheEchidna | rgreening: yes | 23:24 |
rgreening | ok | 23:24 |
JontheEchidna | if we don't get it in time for jaunty, at least we'll have a nice systray | 23:25 |
JontheEchidna | but I do hope we get 4.5 for jaunty | 23:25 |
alleeJaunty | JontheEchidna, ScottK: bug 325963 | 23:27 |
ubottu | Bug 325963 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/325963 is private | 23:27 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: will a package named qt4-x11_4.5.0~snapshot be < qt4-x11_4.5.0~rc1 (if its alphabetical it wont be and that is going to be a problem for me) | 23:27 |
rgreening | hehe | 23:28 |
JontheEchidna | ~snapshot would probably be bigger | 23:28 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: dam | 23:28 |
dtchen | use dpkg --compare-versions | 23:29 |
dtchen | $ dpkg --compare-versions 4.5.0~snapshot lt 4.5.0~rc1 | 23:29 |
dtchen | 1|crimsun@errno:~ $ | 23:29 |
JontheEchidna | alleeJaunty: could you un-private the bug? | 23:29 |
* JontheEchidna can normally see private bugs, this is weird | 23:29 | |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: thanks for the upload :) | 23:30 |
JontheEchidna | lex79: thanks for updating the package | 23:30 |
JontheEchidna | alleeJaunty: got it, thanks | 23:31 |
alleeJaunty | JontheEchidna: done. But the stracktrace has not all symbol :( | 23:31 |
JontheEchidna | yeah :( | 23:31 |
ScottK | JontheEchidna: If it was marked security and private you wouldn't be able to see it. | 23:32 |
rgreening | dtchen: ty. Indeed ~rc1 > ~snapshot | 23:32 |
JontheEchidna | aah, security *and* private | 23:32 |
alleeJaunty | installing ddebs with dpkg is no fun :( | 23:32 |
rgreening | ScottK: See above discussion about Qt package name. Do you have a recommendation on how to name the rc1 to make it greater than the snapshot? I used ~snapshot | 23:34 |
ScottK | Ahh. Hmmmm | 23:34 |
ScottK | ~snapshot+rc1 | 23:35 |
rgreening | haha | 23:35 |
ScottK | Ugly but working. | 23:36 |
rgreening | true. ok. I'll use that | 23:36 |
rgreening | ty ScottK | 23:36 |
ScottK | yw | 23:36 |
rgreening | JontheEchidna: thanks for getting my patch uploaded for kpackagekit | 23:37 |
lex79 | JontheEchidna: when you have time... http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=plasmoid-translatoid | 23:37 |
rgreening | ScottK: what about ~+rc1 | 23:38 |
rgreening | that is > ~snapshot | 23:38 |
rgreening | but not as ambiguous | 23:39 |
alleeJaunty | JontheEchidna: I've retry tomorrow. Hopefully then the a proper amd64 ddeb and apt-get does the depencendy jobs for me. Using dpkg is way to time consuming :( | 23:39 |
ScottK | rgreening: Should work. | 23:40 |
lex79 | rgreening: there is a problem to install libqt4-dbg...do you know? | 23:40 |
rgreening | lex79: what problem and which package version? | 23:41 |
lex79 | libqt4-dbg_4.5.0~snapshot-20090202-0ubuntu1~ppa1_amd64.deb | 23:41 |
lex79 | trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/libQtXmlPatterns.so.4.5.0.debug', which is also in package libqt4-xmlpatterns-dbg | 23:41 |
rgreening | 1 sec. I had fixed it | 23:41 |
lex79 | ok | 23:42 |
rgreening | lex79: read the changelog to see if my comment is there or not | 23:42 |
lex79 | ok | 23:42 |
JontheEchidna | oh cool, new beta legacy drivers for xorg 1.6 | 23:43 |
rgreening | lex79: maybe it isn't 100% gone... | 23:44 |
lex79 | I don't see your comment | 23:46 |
rgreening | hmm.. strange. | 23:47 |
lex79 | :) | 23:47 |
rgreening | at any rate, I confirmed there is still an issue in the package. | 23:48 |
rgreening | ty lex79, I'll fix in the rc1 upload | 23:48 |
lex79 | ok rgreening ;) | 23:48 |
Tonio__ | koffice on my ppa for testers.... | 23:49 |
JontheEchidna | brb, restarting X | 23:50 |
lex79 | anyone: can you sponsor this? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lemonpos-kde4/+bug/325153 | 23:52 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 325153 in lemonpos-kde4 "New upstream release 0.6.1" [Undecided,New] | 23:52 |
Tonio__ | Riddell: current koffice is not installable due to file conflict between packages.... it is in universe, so I upload right now | 23:54 |
rgreening | lex79: The debug change mysteriously disappeared from my repo, eventhough I still have the comments in my log saying I fixed it. hah | 23:55 |
lex79 | I didn't try 20090203 snapshot | 23:59 |
lex79 | because in my system kdm doesn't start with 20090202 snapshot :) | 23:59 |
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