[00:00] <alarm> where can i set mount parameters for my external usb HDD , so when its being mounted to be read only ? (on kubuntu 8.10 kde4.2)
[00:04] <mefisto__> alarm: /etc/fstab  ?
[00:05] <alarm> mefisto__,  when plugin in the hdd kde handles the mounting, not fstab
[00:05] <mefisto__> alarm: wouldn't fstab override that?
[00:06] <alarm> if i would edit you mean . i do not know. i am still trying to configure it through kde
[00:09] <v3trae> afternoon y'all
[00:13] <adben> hello everyone
[00:13] <cbwcjw> !hi
[00:13] <v3trae> adben: hiya
[00:15] <adben> one question friends, kdm theme setup how it' s possible with kde 4.2?
[00:15] <v3trae> adben: can you use a 4.1 theme on 4.2?
[00:16] <adben> no
[00:16] <adben> i just need to change the font size
[00:16] <cbwcjw> System Settings -> Advanced -> Login Manager
[00:16] <cbwcjw> Its right there.
[00:16] <v3trae> yup
[00:17] <adben> oh yeah tnx , sorry for the stupid q
[00:17] <cbwcjw> !stupid | adben
[00:17] <cbwcjw> No question is stupid :D
[00:19] <jals> i'm having k3b issues: when i attempt to rip to mp3 i get a not that helpful error
[00:19] <v3trae> brb guys
[00:23] <jals> i have all the codecs installed i think
[00:23] <v3trae> there we go
[00:23] <mefisto__> jals: what is the error?
[00:24] <jals> just says "error encoding track 1"
[00:25] <mefisto__> jals: installed lame ?
[00:25] <jals> the lame package in synaptic? yeah
[00:25] <jals> anything else i might need?
[00:25] <jals> this is my lame command: lame -V1 --vbr-new --tt %t --ta %a --tl %m --ty %y --tc %c - %f
[00:25] <cbwcjw> I just got here, and thought you were saying that a certian package was lame. ahaha.
[00:26] <cuznt> i have a few lame commands alright
[00:26] <cbwcjw> haha
[00:26] <ActionParsnip1> hey guys
[00:27] <ActionParsnip1> im playing with kwin for a chuckle
[00:27] <ActionParsnip1> with widgets, what are the shortcut keys for?
[00:27] <v3trae> ActionParsnip1: i hate widgets, so no idea.
[00:27] <mike-solidus> are there plans to prot kde-4.2 into the stable 8.10 repo's eventually?
[00:27] <mike-solidus> *port
[00:28] <ActionParsnip1> v3trae: i'm having a play since i got kde4.2
[00:28] <ActionParsnip1> just bored
[00:28] <ActionParsnip1> still gonna use fluxbox after this
[00:28] <mefisto__> jals: do you get the error without the  -V1 --vbr-new  options?
[00:28] <v3trae> ActionParsnip1: i hated widgets when they came out for OSX, so i don't bother =D
[00:28] <v3trae> ActionParsnip1: i dunno i like kde 4.2 quite a bit
[00:28] <mike-solidus> also, do you know if the qt guys fixed the bug wth thier aiglx implimentation and the nvidia drivers?
[00:28] <ActionParsnip1> v3trae: well i can still use kde and apps, just not kwin
[00:28] <jals> mefisto__, i'll give it a go
[00:29] <jals> yup still errors
[00:30] <Heliodor> Hello
[00:30] <cbwcjw> !hi | Heliodor
[00:30] <Heliodor> how do i unbind the "ALT" function that moves windows?
[00:31] <Heliodor> every time i hold ALT and drags something, it moves the window. And i cant find where to unbind this.
[00:31] <v3trae> mike-solidus: i'm having no problems with the expiramental v 180.22 drivers.
[00:31] <mike-solidus> v3trae: did you have problems with the old drivers where the de would freeze on startup 80% of the time?
[00:32] <v3trae> mike-solidus: i'd get random lock ups pretty much constantly
[00:32] <mike-solidus> v3trae: and with old fbo showing up on the first draw of a window?
[00:32] <ActionParsnip1> Heliodor: i know the thing you mean, I'm not sure how to unbind it but its dead useful
[00:32] <mike-solidus> v3trae: SWEET, really good news, updating today
[00:32] <v3trae> mike-solidus: you have to get it from their site, there isn't a package for it
[00:32] <v3trae> mike-solidus: but its a simple install, just make sure the old drivers are gone first.
[00:33] <Heliodor> ActionParsnip1: Cant use photoshop without unbinding it
[00:33] <ActionParsnip1> Heliodor: i see
[00:33] <mike-solidus> v3trae: hmm, im not gonna mess with that then, I've done manual installs of drivers before a couple of times, and for some reason with ubuntu based installs it tends to completly fsk over apt.
[00:34] <v3trae> mike-solidus: its literally you unload the driver, run the script, it asks you questions, all of which i answered yes to (as a guide told me to) and restart kdm
[00:34] <cbwcjw> !botsnack
[00:34] <v3trae> mike-solidus: give me a second i'll find you a link to the forum guide i used.
[00:34] <jals> this is nuts, i shouldn't have this much issue ripping a cd
[00:34] <mike-solidus> big down side to apt i think, its great at handling apt based installs, but if you want to install something yourself, it tends to mess EVERYTHING up. I'd like to see some sort of implementation like gentoo's portage but with binary packages
[00:34] <mike-solidus> jals: what type of problems are you having?
[00:34] <ActionParsnip1> jals: konqueror has a good cd ripping feature
[00:35] <jals> mike-solidus, Grip won't display the track list of the audio cd, k3b gives errors when attempting to rip
[00:35] <v3trae> mike-solidus: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=993788 follow it to the letter and you shouldn't have any problems, only thing is when it's talking about turning off gdm, swap that for kdm and you shouldn't have any issues.
[00:35] <jals> ActionParsnip1, how do i set it up to rip mp3s?
[00:35] <mike-solidus> jals: for some stupid reason with kde 4.x it will not see cd drives so you have to use an external program that assumes the cd in the drive is an audio cd. i think i ended up using acidrip
[00:35] <jals> i'll give that one a go
[00:36] <mike-solidus> jals: its really stupid, i'm guessing they just didn't wanna impliment it yet and thier base system doesnt cover it because technically you cant mount an audio cd
[00:36] <jals> what's weird with Grip is that if i insert a cd with Grip open, it briefly displays the tracks then they vanish
[00:36] <mike-solidus> v3trae: thanks, i'll go check it out
[00:36] <ActionParsnip1> jals: http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/locutus/easy-cd-ripping-with-konqueror-17544
[00:37] <v3trae> mike-solidus: righto, install irssi and come back if you have any problems =) I might not be able to help but someone should =D
[00:37] <jals> my old drive was IDE, this one is SATA, i wonder if that's the root of the issues
[00:37] <ActionParsnip1> try: apt-cache search cd | grep -i rip
[00:37] <ActionParsnip1> jals: all new drives had IDE
[00:37] <ActionParsnip1> you mean PATA
[00:38] <jals> yeah maybe i do
[00:38] <ActionParsnip1> ;)
[00:38] <cbwcjw> Im pretty sure he means sata http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA
[00:38] <mike-solidus> jals: could be, but if its happening since an upgrade to kde4 its prolly kde 4's fault, freaked me out the first time i ran into it because i was working on someone elses computer.
[00:39] <cbwcjw> PATA was obsoleted by SATA except in industrial
[00:40] <ActionParsnip1> cbwcjw: it has an IDE though (Integrated drive electronic). Old drive were spindles of platters which relied purely on the controller on the motherboard / daughterboard to control it. New drives had IDEs to make controlling them easier and also allows a buffer for data#
[00:40] <ActionParsnip1> cbwcjw: so ALL new drives have an IDE, its a common mistake but seems accepted
[00:40] <cbwcjw> Oh well. It doesnt exactly matter :)
[00:41] <jals> ActionParsnip1, that link doesn't explain how to enable mp3 ripping
[00:41] <jals> just says it'll already be there; it's not
[00:41] <jals> ok now it is
[00:41] <jals> guess it is since i installed lame
[00:41] <ActionParsnip1> jals: In that sidebar you should see a services tab. If not then shoot your distribution and get Kubuntu (shamless plug here). After clicking on the services tab you should see an entry titled "Audio CD Browser". When that is selected you will see several choices like cda, wav, ogg and mp3. These are the formats you can rip off of the CD. It is just a simple matter to select the format you would like (ogg is best and open 
[00:42] <jals> right but last time i checked i didn't see mp3 under those choices
[00:42] <ActionParsnip1> cbwcjw: just a lil fyi for you :D
[00:42] <cobra-the-joker> Kubuntu ROX
[00:42] <cobra-the-joker> :D
[00:42] <ActionParsnip1> cobra-the-joker: ROX rox too ;)
[00:43] <jals> ugh
[00:43] <ActionParsnip1> jals: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-535950.html
[00:43] <ActionParsnip1> !info rox
[00:43] <ActionParsnip1> !info rox-filer
[00:43] <cbwcjw> !find rox
[00:44] <jals> i appreciate these alternative suggestions, but kubuntu should be able to do this
[00:44] <cobra-the-joker> aha
[00:44] <dan> morning all
[00:44] <dan> I am not able to change my theme details.. is this a known issue?
[00:44] <cbwcjw> jals: Blame KDE
[00:45] <ActionParsnip1> !theme | dan
[00:45] <jals> yeah i guess i do
[00:45] <jals> perhaps i should consider an alternative DE
[00:46] <ActionParsnip1> jals: theres a few to choose from
[00:46] <dan> ActionParsnip1: i know *how* to change my theme, and I can get themes.. but when in system settings and changing themes, the "apply" button never becomes "un-disabled" and so i cannot change it
[00:46] <jals> i was on xfce before i got my new computer, but i figured hey, it's a bit more powerful i'll go with kde
[00:47] <dan> i should say .... "system settings...advanced... theme details" or something like that
[00:47] <cbwcjw> jals: I love KDE personally, but it can be frustrating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_X_Window_System_desktop_environments
[00:48] <cbwcjw> jals: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Desktop_environments_and_window_managers
[00:48] <jals> i like everything else so far
[00:48] <jals> i just want to be able to rip cds
[00:49] <ActionParsnip1> dan: try loggin in as a new user and see if its identical, it may be a permissions
[00:50] <cbwcjw> jals: Try playing an mp3, it should autoinstall the mp3 thing. After that, try ripping
[00:50] <jals> it plays them fine
[00:50] <jals> amarok is great
[00:50] <ActionParsnip1> jals: try gnome
[00:50] <jals> i could try gnome
[00:51] <ActionParsnip1> or fluxbox
[00:51] <jals> any ideas though why i'm having this issue, is it really this impossible for kde to rip a cd?
[00:51] <jals> i figure it must be something specific to my setup
[00:51] <ActionParsnip1> jals: run the app from a konsole, you will get intelligent outputs
[00:52] <jals> ActionParsnip1, yeah i tried that with Grip, googled some of the results, not so helpful
[00:52] <ActionParsnip1> jals: k3b is usually decent
[00:52] <jals> yeah so i read, i'd be happy to use it if it'd work :(
[00:53] <ActionParsnip1> jals: is konqueror not flying??
[00:53] <jals> ActionParsnip1, trying that now actually
[00:53] <jals> it is ripping apparently
[00:53] <jals> shame there's no dialogue to show the status but maybe it'll do for now
[00:54] <jals> ActionParsnip1, scrap that, just tried to play one of the mp3s and it's junk
[00:54] <ActionParsnip1> jals: try sudo apt-get install grabcd-rip
[00:54] <jals> what is that
[00:54] <ActionParsnip1> !info grabcd-rip
[00:55] <jals> k i'll give it a go
[00:56] <ActionParsnip1> its worth a shot
[00:56] <jals> i'm pretty certain it's not my drive, cos i ripped a few tracks in windows using cdex and they seem fine
[00:57] <ActionParsnip1> !info cdex
[00:57] <ActionParsnip1> well cdex is open source so you can compile it
[00:57] <jals> or run it in wine
[00:58] <ActionParsnip1> jals: aye
[00:58] <ActionParsnip1> jals: apparently songbird and soundjuicer can do it too
[00:58] <ActionParsnip1> jals: gets platinum and silver ratings in appdb
[00:59] <jals> might try soundjuicer
[00:59] <ActionParsnip1> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7268&iTestingId=19569
[00:59] <v3trae> see ya guys
[01:01] <jals> i'd love grip to work
[01:01] <jals> maybe i'll install gnome and see if things work better there
[01:01] <ActionParsnip1> its a nice app
[01:01] <ActionParsnip1> you can do it at command line
[01:02] <jals> need food first though, brb
[01:03] <cbwcjw> I really dont like gnome...
[01:04] <ActionParsnip1> me neither
[01:04] <punisher> hello
[01:05] <punisher> are there linux usser? xD
[01:05] <ActionParsnip1> none at all
[01:05] <punisher> I'm spanisj, some here speak spanish?
[01:05] <ActionParsnip1> !es
[01:06] <punisher> hablas español?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip1> no, english, bit of french and some italian
[01:06] <punisher> aa ok, where are you?
[01:06] <ActionParsnip1> UK
[01:07] <punisher> aa ok, I'm from Canary Island
[01:07] <punisher> do you know it?
[01:07] <ActionParsnip1> know where
[01:07] <ActionParsnip1> my client spazzed
[01:07] <cbwcjw> !es | punisher
[01:08] <tom_> konqueror 4.2 no longer browers with fish. it opens the location, but clicking on a folder attempts to open a new konqueror and then i get an error saying its is not supported. worked fine yesterday morn....
[01:09] <ActionParsnip1> punisher: i see you are from madrid
[01:10] <punisher> no, I'm from canary Island, in Spain, but my conection is GPRS so mi ip say that I'm in madrid but it's false
[01:10] <ActionParsnip1> punisher: ahhh, your ISP is in spain
[01:10] <punisher> yes
[01:10] <ActionParsnip1> punisher: ip to location convert ;)
[01:11] <punisher> :)
[01:11]  * kaddi misses Madrid :(
[01:11] <punisher> do you use kubuntu? what version?
[01:11] <ActionParsnip1> punisher: im on intrepid + kde 4.2 + fluxbox
[01:12] <cbwcjw> Meh, fluxbox. I only use it for server use :)
[01:12] <ActionParsnip1> its just nice and slick
[01:12] <ActionParsnip1> i dont care for prettys
[01:12] <cbwcjw> I dont. on this computer for gaming, windows XP with all win98 colors and themes. Eye candy not needed.
[01:13] <ActionParsnip1> precisely, hence flux :)
[01:13] <punisher> I've tried Intrepid whit Kde 4.2, I turn off the desktop effect but my pc is too slow, today I have gone to Hardy
[01:13] <cbwcjw> try xubuntu: http://xubuntu.org It uses the lightwieght xfce desktop environmen
[01:14] <ActionParsnip1> cbwcjw: or fluxbuntu
[01:14] <ActionParsnip1> cbwcjw: you can also run: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop to achieve the same goal, no need to reinstall with xubuntu
[01:14] <cobra_> Hey guys
[01:14] <cobra_> How can i add more than 1 language
[01:15] <ActionParsnip1> !locales
[01:15] <cobra_> to the keyboard layout ?
[01:15] <ActionParsnip1> !keyboard
[01:15] <cbwcjw> Ubottu saves the day again!
[01:15] <cbwcjw> !botsnack
[01:16] <ActionParsnip1> !cookie | cbwcjw
[01:17] <ActionParsnip1> hmm
[01:17] <ActionParsnip1> !cookie | ubottu
[01:17] <ActionParsnip1> hahha
[01:29] <cbwcjw> Yum cookie.
[01:31] <jals> you know, this is odd
[01:32] <jals> i ran Grip from the command line using --verbose
[01:32] <jals> it is *right now* working
[01:32] <jals> no idea if it'll last, but isn't that odd?
[01:35] <cobra_> cant make a button which change layouts :(
[01:36] <jals> ack, but the sound is coming out shit again
[01:36] <cobra_> any body can help ?
[01:46] <devyn> error while installing kde-window-manager 4.2.0: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[01:47] <Adola> How do I restart Pulse Audio?
[01:47] <hybrid> anyone play jedi academy
[01:48] <devyn> hello? I really need help here! apt-get -f install doesn't work!
[01:48] <hybrid> cant get wine to reconize mounted dimage
[01:48] <hybrid> image
[01:49] <devyn> goto path Z:\media\ ...
[01:49] <devyn> hybrid: goto path Z:\media\ ...
[01:49] <hybrid> in wine
[01:50] <hybrid> dir?
[01:50] <devyn> ya i think
[01:50] <devyn> what image?
[01:50] <devyn> mounted how?
[01:50] <hybrid> it needs disk 1 to play
[01:50] <devyn> aaah
[01:50] <devyn> let me check
[01:50] <hybrid> the game is not reconizing its mounted
[01:51] <devyn> okay go into winecfg
[01:51] <hybrid> k
[01:51] <devyn> on drives tab
[01:51] <hybrid> k
[01:51] <devyn> add a new map to /media/cdrom on drive letter E: or D:
[01:52] <devyn> or, try the Autodetect... button
[01:52] <hybrid> k
[01:52] <hybrid> ive tryed this
[01:52] <devyn> oh
[01:52] <devyn> hm....
[01:53] <devyn> then I don't know at all...
[01:53] <hybrid> shit i dont get it
[01:53] <devyn> anyway, I have a really bad problem of my own...
[01:53] <hybrid> whats ur problem
[01:53] <devyn> error while installing kde-window-manager 4.2.0: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[01:55] <devyn> plz i need help someone!!!!!
[01:55] <devyn> @prea stop it!
[01:56] <caranguejo> ok
[01:58] <hybrid> can u remove that folder for ur update
[01:58] <hybrid> so ur not overwriting
[01:58] <hybrid> i dunno
[01:58] <iris> i'm on 8.10. How do I install kde 4.2?
[01:58] <hybrid> set pirmission
[01:58] <hybrid> bla
[01:58] <devyn> @iris add the repository
[01:59] <devyn> @iris add the "software source"
[01:59] <devyn> on the kubuntu website
[01:59] <cobra_> Hey guys ....cant make a keyboard button change the layout
[02:00] <devyn> THIS IS REALLY DRIVING ME INSANE!
[02:03] <devyn> please! someone PLEASE help me!
[02:04] <devyn> please! someone PLEASE help me!
[02:04] <cobra_> dont know why no one responding
[02:05] <devyn> error while installing kde-window-manager 4.2.0: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[02:06] <cobra_> قرعة
[02:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> I LOVE Kubuntu! <3
[02:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Nice OS
[02:08] <devyn> this very annoying!
[02:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> A good idea, dont install the things that are not included in the standard software packages
[02:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> If you are new in linux that is
[02:09] <devyn> i am not new... its just not working!
[02:10] <devyn> error while installing kde-window-manager 4.2.0: trying to overwrite '/usr/lib/kconf_update_bin/plasma-add-shortcut-to-menu', which is also in package kdebase-workspace-bin
[02:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> Or be prepared for alot of reading/toogling forums for answers
[02:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> Saw it before, no need to repeat, try to help you understand 4.2 is not finished afair
[02:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Therefore, dont get it before it's ninished, or be prepared for trouble :-)
[02:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> finished*
[02:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Try se the kde-bug.org reports
[02:17] <devyn> kde-bug.org doesn't exist?
[02:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe i typed it wrong then, i was there for not so long ago
[02:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> https://bugs.kde.org/
[02:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> There u go, google is your friend
[02:20] <devyn> i just checked there!
[02:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> Well, thats all the help I can support, did'nt promise it would solve your problems
[02:20] <devyn> it seems i've found something here --> ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6653398
[02:21] <stdin> devyn: sudo dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa5_i386.deb && sudo apt-get -f install && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dosent it create a bugreport by default? (Im new in linux)
[02:21] <stdin> replacing i386 with amd64 if you have a 64bit installation
[02:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> Just corious, is the 64 bit version not for Intel?
[02:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> u*
[02:24] <stdin> Sp0tKubuntu: the amd64 architecture runs in all AMD and Intel 64 bit chips
[02:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin: Ok, thanks
[02:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> Where do i see if my processor supports 64bit?
[02:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> It's an Intel Core Duo 2 T250 laptop
[02:28] <devyn> stdio: okay, now on dist-upgrade, hope this works!
[02:29] <devyn> *stdin
[02:29] <stdin> Sp0tKubuntu: if it's a Duo it's probably 64bit
[02:29] <devyn> stdin: yeah, probably...
[02:29] <devyn> stdin: most Duo's are
[02:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dunno?
[02:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is it?
[02:29] <devyn> what kind of computer?
[02:29] <stdin> if you want to be sure, look at the spec on intel.com
[02:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> Laptop, MSI PR 200
[02:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, i try
[02:30] <devyn> If you can, 64-bit is waaay faster. (and more powerful)
[02:31] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats why i ask :-)
[02:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> This i my laptop, but not same processor, my processor is T250, not T300
[02:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=proddesc&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=270&prod_no=1208
[02:33] <EagleScreen> Sp0tKubuntu try to boot Kubuntu amd64, if you can, you have a 64 bit processor if not, you have 32 bit.
[02:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Thansk! Easy solution! :-D
[02:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thanks*
[02:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> Downloading! :-)
[02:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is it much different from 32 bit? Guess its much more performance, specially using multicore?
[02:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> When i look under drivers for my laptop, there is drivers for both, windows 32/64bit, so i guess its a 64 bit processor i got! Nice!
[02:42] <EagleScreen> surely you have a 64 bit processor
[02:42] <EagleScreen> software is less meture for 64 bits than for 32 bits
[02:43] <EagleScreen> you will find applications that work for 32 bits but not for 64
[02:44] <EagleScreen> and all 64 bit applications waste more RAM than 32 bits
[02:44] <EagleScreen> but with a 64 bit system your processor can work around 30% faster
[02:44] <Zorix> 64 bit systems can address more ram than 32 bit
[02:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Less meture? My english is not so good :-)
[02:48] <EagleScreen> less mature, sorry
[02:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Thats ok, mature meaning?
[02:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: :-D
[02:49] <EagleScreen> translate it in the internet
[02:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Ok
[02:50] <EagleScreen> there are more applications for 32 than for 64
[02:50] <EagleScreen> and there are many applications for 32 that work better than for 64
[02:51] <EagleScreen> many 64 bit applications needs to use wrappers and run 32 bit libraries
[02:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: That means it's not recommended?
[02:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Or it's up to what the single user use the pc for
[02:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> I guess
[02:53] <EagleScreen> the only advantage of a 64 bit distribution is that your processor will can work around 30% faster
[02:54] <EagleScreen> I use 64 bit, but there are some programs that i cannot run by this
[02:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Ok, i dont run so much on my laptop, but i run some
[02:55] <EagleScreen> for instance a video game created by Argentina which is only for 32 bits
[02:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Mail, web, torrent, burning, ripping, notes, music, stuff like that actually
[02:56] <EagleScreen> I'd wait one year to use 64 bits distributions
[02:56] <Zorix> too much misinformation about 64 bit
[02:56] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Then i wait :-) Im not so into linux yet, so i learn a little meanwhile, i hope, lol
[02:57] <Zorix> there is no issue with running 32 bit apps in linux
[02:57] <Zorix> 64 bit
[02:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> Another thing, where on the ubuntu / kubuntu sites can i see when the next stable release will come? :-)
[02:57] <Zorix> april
[02:58] <Zorix> check the wiki
[02:58] <EagleScreen> Ubuntu is always released at the same dates
[02:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Zorix: Dont confuse me now :-D No problems i apps for linux in 64bit?
[02:58] <Zorix> april and october
[02:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> 2 times a year i see
[02:58] <Zorix> 32 bit apps will work in 64 bit installations
[02:58] <EagleScreen> one in October and one in April
[02:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh, that way around
[02:59] <Zorix> this is 2009, not 1999.. no reason to run a 32 bit os on a 64 bit box
[03:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> All in all, i can install 64 bit system, and run 64 bit apps, AND 32 bit without problems?
[03:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> I got the point in using the system power there is, no need to waste good performance :-)
[03:01] <EagleScreen> in theory, you can run 32 bits applications in 64 bit systems, but not without problems
[03:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe in a year or so you say?
[03:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> When its made more stable
[03:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> Think i will try, just for fun
[03:03] <EagleScreen> I hope for in one year some things as plugins to be more mature for 64 bits
[03:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> I made a / and a /home and a swap when making the partition on my system, can i then reinstall / without messing /home up? It's 2 partitions
[03:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Now i think i know what mature is
[03:03] <EagleScreen> yes you can
[03:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: Nice, and home stores all my settings and installed apps and cfg for them?
[03:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> When i use show hidden files, theres alot of things in there i did'nt put there myself
[03:06] <EagleScreen> #/home stores all your settings (settings which not require root privileges)
[03:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, when the things i have installed now is from a 32 bit system, can it work together when i reinstall /, will home be lost?
[03:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok
[03:06] <Zorix> there is no problems with 32 bit apps
[03:06] <Zorix> on 64 bit
[03:06] <Zorix> i have zero issues
[03:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i can set root previleges if i want right?
[03:07] <Zorix> its linux you can do whatever you want
[03:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-D
[03:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Im used to windows
[03:07] <EagleScreen> all configurations for your user are saved in /home
[03:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Only reason to run windows now, is for gaming! Or is linux game-compatible?
[03:08] <EagleScreen> but system configurations that require root password or sudo are saved in /etc
[03:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> EagleScreen: And etc is a part of root i my case?
[03:08] <EagleScreen> there are many game which only run well in Windows, i also have it for games
[03:09] <EagleScreen> etc is inside / (root)
[03:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Me 2, playing L4D :-) NICE game! .-)
[03:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Yeah, actually //root?
[03:09] <EagleScreen> you will have to install all your packages again, but thair configuration will be keept
[03:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> because thers a "root" folder in /
[03:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> Nice! :-)
[03:10] <EagleScreen> there are three roots lol
[03:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> What is the name of the developer of linux? Some finnish guy right?
[03:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> 3??
[03:10] <EagleScreen> the partiion where the system is installed is one, the root partition, represented as /
[03:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, not sure i understand comepletely
[03:11] <EagleScreen> the root user is the second, a user with permisions to do everything
[03:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> completely*
[03:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh, its a user, simply?
[03:12] <EagleScreen> and the /root folder is the third, the personal folder for thr root user, is equivalento to your /home/your_name
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats the one i have for my stuff?
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> Third one
[03:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is it not good to be on root user all time?
[03:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe make 2 users default
[03:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sorry for asking so many questions, are just curious
[03:17] <fidji> Fidji probablement en train de jouer au Go
[03:17] <fidji> Fidji ne joue plus au Go
[03:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> Uptime: 20 hours and 53 minutes
[03:27] <corigo3> In 4.2 is there a standard hot key, or way to set a hot key to reduce all open windows and show the desktop? The 4.1 widget I used to use doesn't work in 4.2
[03:31] <JontheEchidna> corigo3: Add a "show desktop" widget to your panel or desktop, then right click on the widget and select "configure"
[03:31] <JontheEchidna> you should be able to set a shortcut from there
[03:32] <JontheEchidna> oh, what do you mean by the old one "not working"?
[03:32] <JontheEchidna> when you add it does it complain that the widget can't be created?
[03:34] <corigo3> When I add the Showdesktop Widget it displays as a big red X and says it is an Unknown widget
[03:34] <corigo3> That's what I mean by not working
[03:34] <JontheEchidna> that's what I thought
[03:34] <JontheEchidna> most likely kdeplasma-addons didn't get upgraded
[03:35] <JontheEchidna> do a sudo apt-get install kdeplasma-addons
[03:41] <corigo3> JontheEchidna: that worked. Thanks
[03:41] <JontheEchidna> yup, no problem
[03:41] <JontheEchidna> it didn't get upgraded because upgrading would remove a library package and replace it with a newer version
[03:50] <corigo3> What about resizing a Desktop folder widget?
[03:52] <corigo3> What about resizing a Desktop folder widget?
[03:52] <corigo3> sorry
[03:52] <JontheEchidna> corigo3: as long as the widgets are unlocked, you should get a bar when you hover over the folder view widget
[03:52] <JontheEchidna> the top icon on the bar is a resize button
[03:53] <corigo3> domo hari gato or something like that
[03:54] <JontheEchidna> domo arigato, mr. roboto, lol
[03:56]  * JontheEchidna goes to bed
[03:58] <nikoJ> hey hey.. After install, I get a blank screen on boot with a periodic beep from the pc-speaker.. how does one fix that?
[03:58] <nikoJ> it beeps roughly every 30 seconds
[03:59] <dewman> maybe x didnt start correctly nikoj?
[03:59] <nikoJ> honestly, I don't know.. the screen was completly blank..
[03:59] <nikoJ> when i ctrl-alt-delete it did reboot
[04:00] <nikoJ> but there was 0 text on the screen until the mahcine rebooted
[04:00] <nikoJ> nothing at all
[04:00] <dewman> I think there is a key combo that you can do like alt f1 or altf2 or something that will bring up a terminal during boot
[04:00] <nikoJ> yep i tried that
[04:00] <nikoJ> nothing
[04:00] <dewman> hmm.
[04:01] <nikoJ> i'm using a very common video card
[04:01] <nikoJ> so it shouldn't be a problem with that
[04:01] <dewman> do you even get the ubunutu spash screen?
[04:01] <nikoJ> I don't recall seeing one, but I can't say I was paying that close attention
[04:01] <nikoJ> if you wish i can retry and come back
[04:02] <dewman> you would see it...You can miss it...big and orange.
[04:02] <dewman> cant
[04:02] <nikoJ> nod.
[04:02] <nikoJ> right now i'm in the failsafe mode from the grub menu.. so that worked fine
[04:03] <dewman> my ati card did something like that but only after i installed the restricted drivers. I had to modify a few lines in order to get it to work
[04:04] <nikoJ> *shrug* I'm using a 8800 .. it should work with default vesa drivers
[04:04] <dewman> it was trying to force a larger display to my monitor..
[04:04] <nikoJ> I *am* using a dual monitor display.. but at worst it should just garble the 2nd screen
[04:04] <nikoJ> or display notihng on it
[04:05] <nikoJ> but this.. is pretty strange
[04:05] <dewman> what does your xorg.conf file show?
[04:06] <nikoJ> hrm I can't get a 2nd terminal.. I'm in the debug mode atm.. I'll check it and come back
[04:06] <nikoJ> brb
[04:12] <Gun_Smoke> new to kde.. have kde 4.1 here, and I was expecting to be able to right click and 'extract here' with ark.. is there an option to configure this behavior?
[04:15] <tboxmy> gun_smoke: u need to update the dolphin
[04:15] <Gun_Smoke> to?
[04:15] <tboxmy> else not option to extract.
[04:15] <Gun_Smoke> using dolphin 1.1
[04:15] <tboxmy> i dont know y exactly, but I updated and now have this option.
[04:16] <Gun_Smoke> what version do you have?
[04:17] <mindar> Hi all!
[04:17] <mindar> Need help, please!!
[04:19] <mindar> АУ, бля!!
[04:21] <Gun_Smoke> that's not going to get you anywhere..
[04:26] <mindar> Fuck...(((
[04:28] <dewman> I wouldnt drop the f word in here... some people dont really care for that
[04:29] <mindar> I know....
[04:29] <v3trae> sorry guys, brainfart question. What is the fdisk optiont o show all partition tables? Like, list all my partitions so i can figure out where the hell windows is?
[04:29] <thomas__> Hi. Does anyone here know java?
[04:30] <tboxmy> yes, but Y here?
[04:30] <tboxmy> thomas__: is it relevant here?
[04:30] <thomas__> b./c i dunno where to ask...
[04:30] <thomas__> :)
[04:30] <mindar> I have a problem with RAR arhives/ It dosent open....
[04:30] <tboxmy> gun_smoke: u updated kubuntu?
[04:31] <demolition> what is the channel to talk to the administrators about a problem
[04:31] <tobor> hi all, just upgraded from Dapper to Heron, Noticed the "X" server is now taking 110 MB to run when previously it was at 655K Any ideas why the large increase?
[04:31] <tobor> v3trae: "p"
[04:31] <v3trae> tobor: danka
[04:31] <thomas__> what is a good place to ask about java?
[04:31] <tobor> thomas__:  #java?
[04:32] <thomas__> it seems to require a pass (?)
[04:32] <tobor> owch
[04:32] <v3trae> tobor: lol no, sorry, i didn't word it right. it's like fdisk -l and it shows all the /dev/sdxx
[04:32] <dewman> v3trae you can drop to a terminal and type df -h
[04:32] <tboxmy> mindar: check u installed unrar
[04:32] <v3trae> tobor: someone said it yesterday and i can't remember what it was for the life of me
[04:32] <demolition> bazhang
[04:32] <v3trae> dewman: i have 4 drives, i'm trying to figure out which /dev/ the windows drive is.
[04:33] <tobor> v3trae: sounds like fdisk -l /dev/sda :)
[04:33] <tobor> followed by sdb sdc sdd
[04:33] <dewman> man fdisk =)
[04:33] <v3trae> tobor: but you didn't have to specify, you just hit it and it would list all the /dev/'s that had partition tables on them
 yep.. Im installed. But arhives is "empty" when I open it...
[04:34] <tboxmy> maybe not a rar file?
[04:34] <tboxmy> at prompt type
[04:34] <ubunturos> /join ##java
[04:34] <mindar> its a rar(((
[04:34] <tboxmy> file filename.rar
[04:34] <demolition> bazhang my roomate got our line cut out of the ubuntu channel where would i go to get back in
[04:34] <ubunturos> sorrry, my computer is behaving odd here
[04:35] <Gun_Smoke> tboxmy: updated to what?
[04:35] <Gun_Smoke> I have no updates waiting or needed.
[04:37] <tboxmy> my dolphin is 4.2.0
[04:37] <demolition> astromme do you know the channel to ask for the admins to unlock a kick out
[04:38] <Gun_Smoke> tboxmy: your dolphin can't be.. kde could be.
[04:38] <tobor> hi all, just upgraded from Dapper to Heron, Noticed the "X" server is now taking 110 MB to run when previously it was at 655K.   Any ideas why the large increase?
[04:39] <Gun_Smoke> tobor: you can look at a few things to see what's eating it.. top, sytem monitor
[04:39] <tobor> Gun_Smoke: I did. Its X.
[04:39] <szrhawaii> what up kde people
[04:40] <Gun_Smoke> tobor: do you have any desktop effects enabled?
[04:40] <tboxmy> tobor: my upgrade, failed to allow the desktop effects to start anymore
[04:40] <tobor> Gun_Smoke: Unknown , just did the install, haven't played with it yet.
[04:40] <Gun_Smoke> but I really think that 655K is pretty darn slim for even xfce
[04:40] <tobor> Gun_Smoke: I typically turn that stuff off.
[04:41] <tboxmy> err...yah its 1.2 for KDE4.2
[04:41] <tobor> Gun_Smoke: quite possibly, but even If i am off by a zero (65 MB)  thats still a 50 Mb increase. On the same version of X
[04:42] <tobor> tboxmy: 1.2 MB for KDE 4.2?
[04:42] <tboxmy> Gun_Smoke: its Dolphin 1.2 for KDE4.2
[04:42] <Gun_Smoke> tobor: yeah well 50M for over 2 years worth of upgrades seems approiate..
[04:42] <tboxmy> Gun_Smoke: from PPA
[04:43] <Gun_Smoke> tboxmy: right.. thanks.. Guess I'll just have to wait it out..
[04:43] <tobor> Gun_Smoke: Not when that is a a 40% increase in size.
[04:43] <TraceRoute> how does having gnome-desktop in kde4.2 come along together? is there still a problem with gdm/kdm conflict?
[04:43] <tobor> (Unless you work for microsoft.)
[04:43] <tboxmy> TraceRoute: my gnome&kde can switch fine
[04:46] <TraceRoute> tboxmy i try it
[04:46] <TraceRoute> ill
[04:47] <piolinjazz> hi
[04:47] <piolinjazz> how are you
[04:47] <piolinjazz> heyhey
[04:47] <piolinjazz> its now
[04:47] <piolinjazz> ok
[04:48] <piolinjazz> sspeak spanis
[04:48] <piolinjazz> plis
[04:48] <stdin> !es
[04:48] <piolinjazz> ok
[04:49] <piolinjazz> mmm
[04:49] <piolinjazz> help plis
[04:49] <piolinjazz> one moment
[04:49] <piolinjazz> sommbady help
[04:50] <piolinjazz> or sorry
[04:50] <tboxmy> go ahead ask
[04:50] <tobor> !es > piolinjazz
[04:50] <piolinjazz> ok
[04:52] <piolinjazz> sommbody speak spanis plis
[04:53] <Pyles17> my intel 3945 wireless only works occasionally. ubuntu comes with the driver, but "lshw -C network" usually shows the card as "unclaimed". any ideas?
[04:55] <stdin> piolinjazz: join #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es for spanish, english only here
[04:56] <binskipy2u> anyone here check out 4.2 yet from the PPA repos?
[04:56] <binskipy2u> its very nice, faster then 4.1.x
[04:56] <piolinjazz> how entern in ubuntu -es
[04:56] <binskipy2u> and seems to be "smoother"
[04:57] <Pyles17> piolinjazz: the same way you joined this chat
[04:57] <piolinjazz> ok
[04:57] <piolinjazz> thank you
[04:57] <Pyles17> piolinjazz: just type #ubuntu-es instead of #ubuntu
[04:58] <Pyles17> piolinjazz: n/p
[04:58] <piolinjazz> ok thank you
[05:01] <Pyles17> but seriously, how do i fix my wireless?
[05:32]  * ibeekman is wondering if this irc command does what he thinks it does
[05:32] <ibeekman> sweet
[05:33] <ibeekman> !ibeekman
[05:33] <ibeekman> ! emacs pakages
[05:33] <ibeekman> emacs-package
[05:33] <DaSkreech> !info emacs
[05:34] <ibeekman> is there any handy way to install emacs packages or just the standard/manual old school way?
[05:35] <DaSkreech> What is emacs-package ?
[05:36] <ibeekman> dunno I was just seeing if ubottu had any insight into installing emacs packages
[05:39] <Spinshank> hey guys with compiz it saying a 255 desktobs when i only have 20 running
[05:39] <Spinshank> 225*
[05:39] <Gun_Smoke> emacs is packaged.. ibeekman, aptitude search emacs will list them all for you
[05:43] <ibeekman> ok well that list is fairly limited, so i guess the answer is no.  I am trying to figure out the best way to keep my workstation emacs settings/environment synchronized with my home emacs
[05:44] <DaSkreech> rsync ?
[05:44] <Gun_Smoke> that's how I'd do it.
[05:46] <ibeekman> so there are a few . (dot) files like .emacs etc. but then there are .el packages which are byte compiled right?  So i could rsync it then re-byte compile all the .el packages
[05:46] <ibeekman> i think...
[05:53] <faileas> can someone tell me where ktorrent usually keeps its torrent files?
[05:54] <Spinshank> !xfire
[05:54] <Tm_T> faileas: hmm, have you looked the settings?
[05:54] <DaSkreech> faileas: either in the ~/.kde directory or possibly in /tmp
[05:54] <faileas> I'm not on the ubuntu partition at the moment i'm afraid
[05:55] <faileas> *kubuntu
[05:56] <DaSkreech> !info xfire
[05:56] <faileas> ahh
[05:57] <faileas> it keeps them unlabeled i think ><
[05:57] <DaSkreech> faileas: you found them?
[05:57] <faileas> sort of
[05:57] <DaSkreech> Throw one in a text editor it should give you some info about it
[05:58] <faileas> it keeps them as files called torrent in folders called tor0 tor1 and so on
[05:58] <faileas> its a dumb way to do it IMO ;p
[05:58] <DaSkreech> faileas: patches accepted :)
[05:58] <faileas> eheh
[05:58] <DaSkreech> It's probably an easy way to make sure they don't have two conflicting torrent files
[05:58] <faileas> ya
[05:59]  * faileas got them loaded on utorrent for now
[05:59] <faileas> until i'm done with what i need to do on my XP system
[06:00] <faileas> thanks :)
[06:03] <DaSkreech> Sure
[06:03] <DaSkreech> faileas: This is ~/.kde ?
[06:04] <faileas> \home\geek\.kde\share\apps\ktorrent
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Yeah thought so
[06:05] <DaSkreech> Kget has torrent support as well
[06:05] <DaSkreech> I hear
[06:05] <faileas> ya, but i'm in windows XD
[06:05] <faileas> i was trying to move it over since i don't think i'll be able to boot into kubuntu for a day or two due to some work i need to get done
[06:06] <Pyles17> does anyone have any idea why my intel 3945 won't work?
[06:07] <Pyles17> intel 3945 wireless*
[06:07] <DaSkreech> !wifi
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Might help debug it
[06:07] <Pyles17> thanks
[06:12] <djawa> halloo smuaa
[06:15] <casey> Hey
[06:15] <casey> What's up you guys?
[06:16] <DaSkreech> The net lag time
[06:16] <casey> What is up?
[06:18] <DaSkreech> I dunno
[06:21] <binskipy2u> someone please help me, i want to open up konqueror or dolphin in ROOT, so i can delete a remastersys folder.. kdesu, sudo, kdesudo dont work
[06:21] <binskipy2u> what the heck am i doning wrong???????
[06:22] <binskipy2u> i get this error >> cannot connect to X server :0.0
[06:22] <binskipy2u> i just want to delete a damn folder
[06:23] <binskipy2u> anyone here??????
[06:23] <caustin> binskipy2u: Open a Terminal window and do it from the command line.
[06:23] <binskipy2u> i did
[06:23] <binskipy2u> kdesu command not found
[06:24] <ali_> hey anyone tell me ... a good CBT to learn basic linux...... including working on command prompt
[06:24] <caustin> use sudo from the cmd line
[06:24] <binskipy2u> i tried
[06:24] <binskipy2u> its NOT WORKING
[06:24] <caustin> dude, chill
[06:24] <binskipy2u> i have to do some xhost + something something in command line
[06:24] <binskipy2u> to allow to su and open konqueror
[06:24] <binskipy2u> i tried su, put in my pasword
[06:24] <binskipy2u> and same thing
[06:25] <binskipy2u> alll i wanna do is dlelete a folder
[06:25] <caustin> if you can't delete it from the cmd line, there is another issue.
[06:25] <binskipy2u> its drifving me crazy, i'm googling and googling
[06:25] <caustin> Is it a mounted directory?
[06:25] <binskipy2u> yes
[06:25] <caustin> you need to unmount it first
[06:26] <binskipy2u> i tried su, then password, then typed in konqueror, or dolphin and thsoe errors come oup
[06:26] <DaSkreech> binskipy2u: Dude calm down
[06:26] <binskipy2u> unmount a folder?
[06:26] <binskipy2u> its a folder that was made when i made a remaster
[06:26] <DaSkreech> binskipy2u: sudo umount /path/to/folder
[06:26] <binskipy2u> never ever ever ever had to do that before
[06:26] <caustin> you have to unmount it before you can delete it.
[06:26] <binskipy2u> could always su , then konqueror, then rightclick and delete
[06:27] <DaSkreech> cause you didn't delete a mounted dir I'll guess
[06:27] <binskipy2u> its the same hd? how could it be mounted? i'm lost never had this issue before
[06:27] <binskipy2u> used to su, then nautilus, in gnome and delete what iw anted
[06:28] <DaSkreech> you mounted an ISO into it I'll bet
[06:28] <binskipy2u> what is the command with the xhost on it
[06:28] <binskipy2u> NO
[06:28] <binskipy2u> i made it
[06:28] <binskipy2u> burnt it
[06:28] <binskipy2u> now iw wanna get ridd of it
[06:28] <binskipy2u> i cant delete stuff off my own compute
[06:28] <binskipy2u> r
[06:28] <binskipy2u> im on the 8th google page i cant find that xhost command to put in term
[06:28] <binskipy2u> to allow this to happen
[06:29] <caustin> from a terminal window, type mount
[06:29] <caustin> see if you folder is listed there
[06:29] <binskipy2u> nope
[06:30] <binskipy2u> bout 20things came oup
[06:30] <binskipy2u> thats not one fo othem
[06:30] <binskipy2u> this si driving me ntuxs
[06:30] <binskipy2u> nuts
[06:31] <binskipy2u> anyone know what that xhost command is tob e able to open up dolphin, konqueeor in root???
[06:31] <binskipy2u> please anyone>??
[06:31] <binskipy2u> i'm on the 12 google page hit now
[06:31] <binskipy2u> i cant find it
[06:32] <binskipy2u> anyone?????????????????
[06:32] <binskipy2u> [;leas;e???
[06:32] <binskipy2u> please
[06:32] <DaSkreech> binskipy2u: Whats the directory ?
[06:33] <binskipy2u> /root/remastersys
[06:33] <binskipy2u> sorry /root/home/remastersys
[06:33] <DaSkreech> ls -l /root/home
[06:33] <DaSkreech> pastebin
[06:34] <binskipy2u> no such file or directory
[06:34] <binskipy2u> of course it isk i'm looki9hng at it
[06:34] <binskipy2u> how come i cant delete anything on my cmputer???
[06:34] <binskipy2u> this never happene3d in ubuntu w/gnome
[06:34] <DaSkreech> :-)
[06:34] <DaSkreech> Which directory are you In?
[06:35] <binskipy2u> im not in a directory'
[06:35] <binskipy2u> im trying to dleete the foleder i just made
[06:35] <binskipy2u> for gods sake
[06:35] <binskipy2u> i cant open konqueror in root
[06:35] <binskipy2u> cant open dolphin
[06:35] <caustin> then where are you seeing no such file or directory?
[06:36] <binskipy2u> all i want to ikwnow is that command with the words "xhost +" in it
[06:36] <binskipy2u> to do this
[06:36] <binskipy2u> i remember doing this before
[06:36] <binskipy2u> so i can delete this very same folder long ago
[06:37] <DaSkreech> xhost + local ?
[06:37] <DaSkreech> xhost + local: I think
[06:37] <DaSkreech> Techincally you can just xhost +
[06:38] <binskipy2u> now i'm geting pipe closed unexpe ctlyt
[06:38] <binskipy2u> OMG what fi8d'[jagd
[06:38] <binskipy2u> how can delete this 2gig folder
[06:39] <DaSkreech> What error do you see when you do sudo rm -rf /root/home ?
[06:41] <caustin> unbeliveable.
[06:41]  * DaSkreech shrugs
[06:52] <dave__> has anyone had trouble installing moblock on 8.10
[06:52] <dave__> ?
[06:53] <Spinshank> nopel lol have npt installed it
[06:53] <dave__> yah i don't know what it is.
[06:54] <dave__> would it cause a prob if i used old repositories for the install
[06:55] <Spinshank> whats a good internet browser for linux because fire fox has 2 many bugs ( tabs and dropdown boxes)
[06:56] <dave__> that's kinda a tuff one. I've always used firefox.  Try out konquorer
[06:56] <dave__> or however you spell it
[06:56] <dave__> It seems to work when all else fails
[06:57] <dave__> konqueror
[06:57] <dave__> *
[06:57] <Spinshank> um thats also has a lot pf bugs
[06:57] <Spinshank> of*
[06:57] <Spinshank> in rendering webpages
[06:57] <DaSkreech> epiphany
[06:58] <Spinshank> lol
[07:01] <Spinshank> do you know if wine can run ie 7?
[07:01] <AlanasAnikonis> why aren't you considering Opera?
[07:01] <Spinshank> they dont have ports for 64bit
[07:01] <AlanasAnikonis> oh :O
[07:02] <AlanasAnikonis> but it runs on wine then :P
[07:02] <Spinshank> hmm
[07:02] <AlanasAnikonis> well worth a try
[07:02] <AlanasAnikonis> rather that than IE hell
[07:02] <AlanasAnikonis> which most likely won't work under wine, ever
[07:02] <Spinshank> same lol the hot key system is cool
[07:02] <yaa_> oioioi
[07:03] <yaa_> man its a cool weshch
[07:03] <Spinshank> woot lol they just put out a x86 64 version
[07:04] <yaa_> where am i
[07:04] <Spinshank> lol i asked for a rapid tranfer from one isp 2 a nother and i still have not got my new net lol
[07:04] <DaSkreech> yaa_: On the internet
[07:05] <yaa_> MAN IS IT TRUE
[07:05] <yaa_> ))
[07:05] <DaSkreech> yassir
[07:06] <yaa_> My god//
[07:06] <dave__> does anyone know if it will cause problems if i use a hardy package for 8.10.  I want moblock back but has trouble starting w/ the current package
[07:06] <yaa_> пошто тутанипарусски
[07:06] <DaSkreech> dave__: What problems starting
[07:07] <Spinshank> hmm
[07:07] <dave__> after i try to install the package it just seems to timeout when trying to start it
[07:08] <dave__> or should i say during the install
[07:08] <DaSkreech> отношения
[07:08] <DaSkreech> dave__: Try install again Maybe the server was busy
[07:08] <yaa_> чова?
[07:08] <yaa_> чаво всмысли
[07:08] <DaSkreech> !ru
[07:09] <dave__> no dice.  I've tried it about 5 times over the course of a few days.  I usually use --purge to remove it so there are no descrepencies
[07:11] <yaa_> thanks
[07:13] <gmathews> Hi, I am not happy with the effects in KDE, it stutters a bit when i minimize windows etc. My gnome on ubuntu is fluid..
[07:13] <gmathews> Any ideas?
[07:13] <DaSkreech> What video card?
[07:14] <gmathews> 6150 onboard
[07:14] <gmathews> is that the problem?
[07:14] <gmathews> compiz is pretty fluid though with most of the effects on..
[07:14] <gmathews> on the ubuntu partition
[07:17] <DaSkreech> Hmm not sure I haven't heard of any issues with that card
[07:17] <DaSkreech> You could poke someone in #kwin though Idon't know that anyone is awake now
[07:24] <yaa_> I HAVE HED IT ON ..THose..INTERNETS
[07:24] <yaa_> heard
[07:25] <DaSkreech> Heard
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Ah!!
[07:26] <DaSkreech>  Where's Waldo ?
[07:26] <Spinshank> hey is the a flash version that works on linux 64bit
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Yes
[07:28] <Spinshank> hmm
[07:30] <Spinshank> nope only has ports for 32 bit
[07:30] <DaSkreech> There was one announced
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Don't know if it actually came out
[07:34] <gmathews> Thanks DaSkreech will check
[07:37] <Captain_Haddock> is the path to my kde4 (4.2) installation on Intrepid /usr/share/kde4?
[07:37] <Captain_Haddock> I need this for compilation
[07:37] <Spinshank> hey do i install .so files
[07:37] <Captain_Haddock> or /usr/lib/kde4?
[07:38] <Heretic_spb> how can i turn off this effect? http://i060.radikal.ru/0902/45/64dccbad9282.jpg
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: Why are you compiling ?
[07:39] <Captain_Haddock> DaSkreech: I'm trying to upgrade my installation of ktorrent
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Spinshank: /usr/lib normally
[07:39] <DaSkreech> to trunk?
[07:39] <Captain_Haddock> to 3.2rc1
[07:40] <DaSkreech> that seems right though
[07:41] <Captain_Haddock> righto.. /usr/libs/kde4 it is... I don't need to uninstall my existing version, right?
[07:42] <DaSkreech> Shouldn't have to it will over write it if that's where you are compiling to
[07:45] <Captain_Haddock> cool, thanks DaSkreech
[07:45] <Spinshank> its for this file libflashplayer.so
[07:45] <Spinshank> so i can have flash on 64bit
[07:46] <DaSkreech>  /usr/lib/adobe-flashplugin/libflashplayer.so
[07:48] <gmathews> Hi, using ntfs-config I have manged to get my ntfs partition to auto mount into /media/295GB. However How can i auto bind /media/295GB/My Documents/Work to /home/Documents
[07:49] <Captain_Haddock> I have it in /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so
[07:50] <DaSkreech> ln -s /media/295GB/My\ Documents/Work ~/Documents
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: I have one there as well
[07:50] <DaSkreech> Captain_Haddock: Two different sizes though
[07:52] <Captain_Haddock> different versions perhaps
[07:52] <Captain_Haddock> I recall installing it once manually for Opera.. not sure
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Perhaps
[07:53] <DaSkreech> !flash
[07:55]  * Captain_Haddock is stepping through each error during cmake
[07:55] <Captain_Haddock> now it seems I need kdelibs5-dev
[07:55] <Captain_Haddock> :|
[07:56] <DaSkreech> !info kdelibs5-dev
[07:56] <Captain_Haddock> Cheers.. but it seems I'm sliding down a slippery slope here
[07:57] <Captain_Haddock> I was hoping that an RC would mean that I wouldn't have to install all this dev stuff
[07:57] <DaSkreech> If you are compiling then you need dev stuff
[07:57] <DaSkreech> thems the rules
[07:58] <Captain_Haddock> oh I see
[07:58] <Captain_Haddock> makes sense I guess :)
[07:58]  * DaSkreech nods
[07:58] <DaSkreech> Now. I leave!!
[07:59] <Captain_Haddock> later and thanks!
[07:59]  * Captain_Haddock is going to tackle this later this evening
[08:01] <DaSkreech> Night yaa_
[08:03] <yaa_> is there anybody here besides robots
[08:05] <DaSkreech> Nope
[08:31] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, having some Kontact issues... how can i fix: "Transport 'Unnamed' is invalid."
[08:42] <Spinshank> hey guys is the any program i can get that can record what i do so so i show some one
[08:43] <yao_ziyuan> when i close an app, the clipboard can be cleared. how do i change this behavior (and retain the clipboard content)?
[08:46] <zgmf-x20a> ok so anyone out there using kmail?
[08:48] <zgmf-x20a> sooo... no one using kmail huh?
[08:52] <lavezzi_94> ciao a tutti
[08:52] <lavezzi_94> come va
[08:52] <lavezzi_94> ????
[08:56] <zgmf-x20a> trying to setup gmail type accounts on kmail, cant get sending to happen though, keep getting this error:  Transport 'Unnamed' is invalid.
[08:56] <zgmf-x20a> any help?
[08:58] <nunuri> is there a way to dist-uprade to 8.10 but keeping the kde3 desktop?
[08:59] <nunuri> or has kubuntu 4.2 already
[09:00] <Guest99466> hello, flash is making my firefox really slow. Anyone know of a good plugin to stop flash loading automatically?
[09:01] <Guest99466> Idealy I went flash to run only when I click on the flash
[09:01] <Guest99466> or something similiar
[09:02] <schoppy> #inconchat
[09:02] <ActionParsnip2> yo yo yo
[09:03] <nunuri> nobody
[09:04] <nunuri> dist-upgrade without kde4 possible
[09:04] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: intrepid comes kith 4.1
[09:04] <ActionParsnip2> so if you jump from hardy to intrepid you are going to get it
[09:04] <nunuri> *sign*
[09:04] <ActionParsnip2> you could always compile kde3.5
[09:05] <nunuri> ActionParsnip2: yes i would go for 4.2 but not 4.1
[09:05] <Guest99466> imo, stick with hardy
[09:05] <Guest99466> 4.2 runs great on intrepid
[09:05] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: thats fine, install it once you jump to intrepid
[09:06] <Guest99466> but be prepared to (potentially) waste some times getting your gpu playing nice with all the glitz
[09:06] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: if you are happy with 3.5 then keep it. Jaunty will have kde4.2 but hardy is supported for a long time yet
[09:06] <nunuri> ok than let's try it this way ... my audio is not working on the aspire 4530 ... <--- worthed notebook ever
[09:06] <zgmf-x20a> so... no one using kmail and gmail here huh?
[09:06] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: i use thunderbird
[09:07] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: whats your issue?
[09:07] <zgmf-x20a> ActionParsnip2: yah... tried it today, not impressed, love how kontact everything is integrated in ONE place
[09:07] <ActionParsnip2> i dont really need kontact, i have a memory :D
[09:08] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: but if it works for you, use it wildly
[09:08] <zgmf-x20a> ActionParsnip2: basically everytime i try to send a mail i get thise error: Transport 'Unnamed' is invalid.
[09:08] <zgmf-x20a> ActionParsnip2: lol, yah, but i use it for ALL my contacts
[09:08] <nunuri> would someone know how i get sound working lspci | grep -i audio
[09:08] <nunuri> 00:07.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation Unknown device 0774 (rev a1)
[09:09] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: try reading this (scroll about 70% down) http://www.debianadmin.com/configure-gmail-in-evolution-thunderbird-or-kmail.html
[09:09] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: make sure your settings are correct
[09:09] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: is it in a desktop or laptop?
[09:10] <nunuri> ActionParsnip2: aspire 4530 notebook
[09:10] <Collin_t4> hello
[09:11] <ActionParsnip2> !sound | nunuri
[09:12] <nunuri> ActionParsnip2: i was happy that i could install kubutu on the f*cking thing ... 90% of linux distros either kernel panik or fatal error because of bios settings
[09:12] <zgmf-x20a> ActionParsnip2: thanx, but that article very out of date, im trying to configure imap with it..  and ive gone over the settings so many times, nothing......... ARGH.  hey is there an add on for evolution for rss feeds?
[09:12] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=843012
[09:12] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: its not something I use, maybe someone else can contribute, or ask later
[09:13] <zgmf-x20a> ActionParsnip2: ok, thnx for the help.  anypne else have any ideas?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: are you on kernel 2.6.27 or later?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/acer+aspire+4530
[09:17] <nunuri> Sysinfo for 'se7en-laptop': Linux 2.6.24-23-generic running KDE 3.5.10, CPU: AMDTurionX2Dual-CoreMobileRM-72 at 2100 MHz (4199 bogomips), , RAM: 1727/1771MB, 127 proc's, 3.48h up
[09:17] <nunuri> nop ActionParsnip2 24.23
[09:18] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: according to that dude the 2.6.27 makes it work out of the box
[09:18] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: i think he recompiled alsa too
[09:19] <nunuri> ok so i do apt-get install linux-image 27?
[09:19] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: if its available for your release, i'm not sure, try apt-cache search linux-image
[09:20] <nunuri> nop 24.23 is the latest in hardy ...
[09:21] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: then looks like you need intrepid
[09:21] <nunuri> grr so i have to go to 8.10 :(
[09:21] <nunuri> well if i can get 4.2 running (kde) ...
[09:21] <dev_> Hi................
[09:22] <kkrohn> Kubuntu rocks. With KDE 4.2, that is.  :)    Now that I have said that, I can't get the second monitor to work.
[09:22] <kkrohn> Anyone with any experience in this?   :)
[09:23] <nunuri> thanks for your help ActionParsnip2
[09:23] <kkrohn> ATI control centre sees two monitors, and it seems that X activates it, but KDM just don't want to know about it.
[09:23] <kkrohn> When I move my mouse over to the second monitor, it becomes an X.
[09:24] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: i'd research more but from that review its needed
[09:25] <zgmf-x20a> trying to setup gmail type accounts on kmail, cant get sending to happen though, keep getting this error:  Transport 'Unnamed' is invalid.
[09:25] <nunuri> yes i read that before ActionParsnip2 i was hoping there would be a way around ... i tested debian live cd with kde4.2 rcSomething and i was suprised so i might try ...
[09:26] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: if you boot to live intrepid cd desktop you can test
[09:28] <nunuri> ActionParsnip2: i had done that when it came out ... didn;t like kde4.1 and choose not to dist-upgrade from hardy ... but now i will have to give it a try :)
[09:28] <kkrohn> by the way, does anybody know if the new ATI driver 9.1 will be upgraded by the maintainers for 8.10?
[09:29] <kkrohn> or rather the ATI driver will be upgraded to 9.1, I suppose.
[09:32] <nunuri> is there something like apt-get install -t experimental like in debian for kubuntu and if what would be the entry for /etc/apt/sourceslist  ?
[09:33] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: i can see why too, try a live session with the new kernel to test, then if it works I guess you gotta move
[09:34] <nunuri> ActionParsnip2: i am on dail up and would have to download the iso again ... i rather take the risk and get 300 mb form the dist-upgrade :)
[09:35] <ActionParsnip2> youor call, could always pull it down at your school / college / workplace and use it that way
[09:35] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: or find a buddy who will pull it down for you
[09:37] <nunuri> ActionParsnip2: my workplace :) i am an underwater videographer on a 21km2 island close to papua new genua :)
[09:39] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: i work from home, its killer
[09:39] <nunuri> well i have 10 month summer :)
[09:41] <nunuri> but also 300 mb in 8h :(
[09:48] <zgmf-x20a> hey all, how do i cd into a file folder?
[09:49] <kkrohn> not sure what you mean zgmf
[09:49] <zgmf-x20a> $ cd /xxx   or $ cd/ xxx   ?????
[09:49] <zgmf-x20a> trying to install somwthing here, and from terminal i have to get in to the folder
[09:50] <zgmf-x20a> i wish someone made a magic program that made all tars .dev files.. hahaha
[09:51] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: so for instance, im at the prompt, how do i access a folder in my home folder from terminal???
[09:51] <kkrohn> if you do "cd /something" then this is from the root. An absolute location.
[09:51] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: cd <folder name>
[09:52] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: to go back a folder use: cd ..
[09:52] <kkrohn> first "cd ~"
[09:52] <kkrohn> that takes you to your home-folder.
[09:52] <kkrohn> And from there go to the sub-folder you want, but without the first "/".
[09:52] <kkrohn> For example "cd Pictures".
[09:53] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: hmm tried that but i cant access it... i put this exactly:  :~$ cd /evolution-rss-0.1.2
[09:54] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: linux is hugely CAsE senSItive so you cant just throw in a capital if you feel it takes your fancy
[09:54] <zgmf-x20a> lol
[09:54] <ActionParsnip2> zgmf-x20a: you can also tab complete filenames after you type the first letter or so
[09:54] <kkrohn> remember that while typing "cd something" you can press two times on the tab-key, and it will show you the possible options.
[09:54] <vlt> Hello. Yesterday I asked here whether KDE 4.2 is available in 8.10. The asnwer was yes. Now I installed Kubuntu but apt show me only KDE 4.1 packages. Any idea why?
[09:55] <kkrohn> vlt: because it is still in dev-repositories, and not in the official ones, from what I can tell.
[09:55] <nunuri> read the topic vlt
[09:56] <kkrohn> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 tells you how to install 4.2 on 8.10
[09:56] <vlt> nunuri: Thank you.
[09:56] <nunuri> vlt: :)
[09:56] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: ok, maybe i should just start from the beggining.  ok, im trying to install a tar file.  extracted it to my home folder.  now how would i go about accessing that from terminal?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip2> vlt: add this repo: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[09:56] <ActionParsnip2> vlt: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:56] <kkrohn> Ok. so you have the terminal open then?
[09:57] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: yes open right now
[09:57] <kkrohn> type "pwd" and tell me what it says.
[09:57] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: home/zgmf-x20a
[09:58] <kkrohn> okay. and if you do an ls -l  do you see your unpacked files there?
[09:58] <zgmf-x20a> ls- l
[09:58] <zgmf-x20a> lol oops
[09:58] <kkrohn> ls (space) -l
[09:59] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: yup its there, and highlighted in green for some reason
[09:59] <kkrohn> the tar file is there, or the unpacked files from the tar file?
[10:00] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: unpacked, in a folder
[10:00] <kkrohn> ah, ok. and you want to cd into this folder.
[10:00] <ActionParsnip2> kkrohn: doing well man
[10:00] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: yes, and then follow the help file thing to configure and all that
[10:01] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: i know where that is though, i just need to get in
[10:01] <kkrohn> :)
[10:02] <kkrohn> ok. and if you just simply type "cd (space) directory-name" does this take you there?
[10:02] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: ooooooo....... yes it did...... i thought there had to be a slash in there??  ugh..... lol
[10:03] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: sweet, thanks man!  if any issues, i might be back, lol
[10:03] <ActionParsnip2> babys first cli steps
[10:04] <nunuri> tar -xvf foo
[10:04] <nunuri> ups
[10:05] <ActionParsnip2> ar piddy the foo
[10:07] <kkrohn> :) Good!   (sorry was away for asecond)
[10:08] <kkrohn> hahahaha ActionParsnip2
[10:08] <etfb> How do I set the Windows workgroup for my (Kubuntu Intrepid / KDE 4.2) laptop, so it shows up on my houses's pseudo-network?
[10:10] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: if its for samba shares, its in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[10:10] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: Still?  Isn't there a UI for that yet?
[10:11] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: its all i know, I think if you right click folders you can share them there but im rarely off the console
[10:11] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: http://www.computing.net/answers/linux/getting-ubuntu-to-join-a-workgroup/29222.html
[10:12] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: I'm quite comfortable using the console, but it seems a remarkable omission.
[10:12] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: looks like: sudo net join -w WORKGROUP works too, not used it personally
[10:12] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: in dolphin and the like there is a UI (I think) but i dont use them so I couldnt comment
[10:13] <etfb> Tried net join; it gives an error ("cannot join as standalone machine") so I'll try the other.
[10:14] <etfb> Bah!  "See 'net join' for this functionality"
[10:14] <altrortla> !acer
[10:14] <nunuri> lol
[10:15] <nunuri> !pizza
[10:15] <altrortla> azz
[10:15] <etfb> Someone should program ubottu to respond to !acer with "Acers are shite. Buy something better."
[10:15] <ActionParsnip2> !coffee
[10:15] <altrortla> i know
[10:15] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: i couldve told you that
[10:15] <altrortla> i'm looking for support
[10:15] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: they used to be worse and users had to compile acer_hk for pretty much anything to work
[10:15] <ActionParsnip2> !ask | altrortla
[10:16] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: If you'd magically appeared to me a week and a half ago as I was about to buy an Acer, that would have been helpful.
[10:16] <nunuri> altrortla: ask your question
[10:16] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: Luckily, I got a refund (all but $100; I took pity on them having to reload Windoze) and bought a Toshiba.
[10:16] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: its still under warranty then, tell them its not fit for purpose
[10:17] <altrortla> what question?.... acer warranty is impossible to got... several excuse ... pay calling ... send message ... but no real support
[10:17] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: I did. But the economy is dreadful and they were genuinely stuck cos Acer would never take the thing back.  So I was kind.
[10:17] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: i buy ibm or dell, ibm loves linux
[10:18] <etfb> altrortla: I seriously advise you to reinstall Windows, make the machine look as respectable as possible, sell it and buy Toshiba/Lenovo/IBM.
[10:18] <altrortla> ok
[10:18] <altrortla> but is no the solution now
[10:18] <nunuri> what is the problem altrortla
[10:18] <altrortla> i have a notebook with two line of pixel burned
[10:19] <ActionParsnip2> altrortla: its not an ubuntu question, youor system and warranty will have a policy on dead pixels
[10:19] <altrortla> infact
[10:19] <ActionParsnip2> altrortla: like quantity and density
[10:19] <altrortla> i have asked !acer
[10:20] <ActionParsnip2> i'd read your papers that you got with the unit very very carefully
[10:20]  * nunuri wants a netbook with 12h power, 10" minimum, 2gb ram, dual atom and 160gb
[10:20] <altrortla> yes but there's several question that do not belong to this forum
[10:20] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: you probably wont get 12h with 2Gb ram
[10:20] <zgmf-x20a> kkrohn: hey,,,,,,, so i got to the last part.... make install.... and came up with all these permission denieds........ how can i get around this??
[10:21] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: ram takes a fair whack of power
[10:21] <zgmf-x20a> also.... .deb files should be made the only legal standard.... hahaha
[10:21] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: and its a netbook, you dont need masses of ram
[10:21] <nunuri> hopefully with the next generation of netbooks :)
[10:22] <ActionParsnip2> next gen will hopefully have magnetic ram
[10:22] <nunuri> well i would settle for 1gb also but ...
[10:22] <nunuri> that would give me the freedom to run xp in a virtualbox :)
[10:23] <ActionParsnip2> on a netbook, you'd need cpu power
[10:23] <altrortla> ActionParsnip2: there's a forum for acer support?
[10:23] <kkrohn> zgmf: usually youhave to be root when installing. Try to put "sudo (space)" before your make command.
[10:23] <Heliodor> KDE 4.2 have crashed 3 times now at random times. When i have many windows open. It does not remember window positions and sizes of dialogs for saving files.
[10:24] <altrortla> ActionParsnip2: i don't know how to search
[10:24] <ActionParsnip2> altrortla: www.google.com
[10:24] <altrortla> azz
[10:24] <ActionParsnip2> altrortla: www.ask.com
[10:24] <ActionParsnip2> Helio2000: log some bugs
[10:25] <ActionParsnip2> Helio2000: or read system logs / dmesg for clues
[10:25] <etfb> Shouldn't it be possible to open a video in Kaffeine that's stored on a Samba shared drive?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: very possible
[10:26] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: as long as you have read access to the share then yes
[10:26] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: When I open it, Kaffeine attempts to load a codec (which it already has) and then does nothing.
[10:26] <Heliodor> And now there was another crash
[10:27] <etfb> I can copy the same file to the local machine and open it, but it won't work when it's on the remote drive.
[10:27] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: Can you open image files / text files on the share?
[10:27] <Spinshank> im still having truble installing flash 10 for 64 bit
[10:27] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get --reinstall install flashplugin-nonfree
[10:28] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: i had to do that and then copy the .so file from www.adobe.com into ~/.mozilla/plugins
[10:28] <Spinshank> put that in koncole
[10:28] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: yes
[10:28] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: When I open a .zip file with Ark, it copies it to /tmp and then opens it.
[10:28] <Spinshank> i want 2 do it for opera but
[10:29] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: same deal, just ~/.opera
[10:29] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-flash-working-in-opera-920.html
[10:30] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: that tells you where the .so goes:  sudo cp libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/opera/plugins
[10:30] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: works every time
[10:31] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: does your linux system have the codecs to play the file you are opening?
[10:31] <zgmf-x20a> ok..... so anyone out there using evolution rss feeder plugin?
[10:31]  * nunuri thinks there should be a video tutorial on how to google :)
[10:31] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: Yep - as I said, if I copy it locally it opens.
[10:31] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: if you type oogle into google it breaks the internet
[10:31] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: can you play them with a different player?
[10:31] <etfb> Also: tried to open an RTF file remotely; OpenOffice launched and then shut down.
[10:32] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: try dragon, mplayer, vlc
[10:32] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: hmm, ok, run openoffice from terminal 9but don't use &)
[10:32] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: then try open the file, when it crashes, the konsole will have some info you can use
[10:33] <etfb> No dice.  Can't open with Dragon either.
[10:33] <etfb> OK, will try from konsole.
[10:34] <nunuri> lol http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=google
[10:34] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: its a gag from The I.T. Crowd
[10:34] <nunuri> it is good
[10:35] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oCHxB8d20s
[10:35] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: No error messages; it just refuses to open the file.  Tried kaffeine smb:/MACHINE/PATH/TO/FILE.mpg and no luck.
[10:36] <zgmf-x20a> ahhhhhhhhhh nvm, i see now, tech error.
[10:37] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: i dunno if kaffeine can open over stuff like that, you could try mounting with smbmount so it appearas as a local folder
[10:37] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: That's what I needed to know! Thanks!
[10:38]  * etfb wonders if the Samba devs have heard about the new trend in computer software called the GUI yet...
[10:38] <etfb> Hmmm... smbfs package not yet installed... that could be a sign...
[10:39] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: looks like you are down the right avenue
[10:39]  * nunuri thinks it is quite nice that i can browse windows boxes on the network at all ... gui or cli 
[10:39] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: the gu is a gui to the command line essentially
[10:39]  * etfb agrees entirely, but is always aware that his non-computer-literate family are on Ubuntu too...
[10:40] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: you can do pretty much all the stuff you do in gui at command line
[10:40] <nunuri> just saying i am happy that it works at all
[10:40] <ActionParsnip2> oh lots :D
[10:42] <etfb> Don't be so sure that it does work!
[10:42] <etfb> Mounting cifs URL not implemented yet. Attempt to mount meerkat
[10:42] <etfb> No ip address specified and hostname not found
[10:42] <etfb> (meerkat being the name of the remote machine in this case)
[10:42] <etfb> Back to the man pages... <sigh>
[10:44] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=288534
[10:45] <etfb> (Hey, cool - I had a konsole open maximised with a semi-transparent background, and the image underneath of this IRC program updated when you typed that line.  Eye candy!)
[10:48] <nunuri> ok i have one ... why does $ sudo echo "some.deb" >> /etc/apt/sources.list not work but if you do the same thing witout sudo from sudo bash # it works
[10:49] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: # is the root prompt
[10:49] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: $ is user prompt
[10:49] <nunuri> yes ActionParsnip2 i know
[10:49] <etfb> nunuri: Weird.  I have seen lines in the past like sudo foo | sudo bar | sudo baz, so maybe the sudo only applies to the echo and not to the implied "cat" as part of the >>
[10:49] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: so if you see # you dont need to use sudo, but the root account shouldnt be activated for security
[10:50] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: nunuri was asking why sudo echo foo >> bar.txt doesn't work, ie why the sudo didn't give him/her access to the protected bar.txt file
[10:50] <nunuri> sudo returns no permission
[10:50] <nunuri> yes
[10:50] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: gotcha
[10:50] <nunuri> it should work the same way
[10:51] <nunuri> but it doesn't
[10:51] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: not sure, ive never really done it that way
[10:51] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: let me check it out, it looks ok to me
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: i think you need 's round it
[10:53] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: Cool! I have /media/meerkat!
[10:53] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: echo 'deb http://www.yourdomain.com/packages/ubuntu /' >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:54] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: www.comparethemeerkat.com
[10:54] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[10:54] <nunuri> ok "" are not enogh
[10:54] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: I wonder if it will let me open my files now...
[10:54] <ct529> is there a way to undelete deleted files?
[10:54] <nunuri> if i sudo bash to # first echo "" >> works
[10:55] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: im just quoting the documentation
[10:55] <etfb> ActionParsnip2: It worked!  Thanks for the links!
[10:55] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: sweet
[10:55] <ActionParsnip2> etfb: wtg
[10:56] <ct529> when I said dleted, I meant really deletd (not in the trash can)
[10:56] <ActionParsnip2> !recover
[10:56] <ActionParsnip2> ct529: easier to restore from backup
[10:57] <nunuri> ct529: move to trash ... and delete are to differtent things
[10:57] <ct529> well, if I had a backup of that particular file I would not ask .... the point is it was deleted by mistake whilst launch a backup ....
[10:57] <ct529> nunuri: yes, I know
[10:58] <ActionParsnip2> ct529: you could use foremost on the partition from live cd maybe
[10:58] <ActionParsnip2> ct529: but you will need a place to dump the data on then to rifle through to find what you want
[10:59] <ct529> what about using it from another partition
[11:00] <ActionParsnip2> ct529: as long as the other partition is bootable, sure
[11:00] <ActionParsnip2> ct529: you need the partition you are going to be recovering from to be unmounted
[11:00] <ct529> yes .... as usual .... :(
[11:01] <ct529> oooops! It does not allow the odt file type .... :(
[11:06] <ct529> It is very hard becaus eit is ext3 partition
[11:09] <gaahl_> Hello, could someone please tell me where can I find the update menu for Kubuntu?
[11:09] <ActionParsnip2> gaahl_: do you mean to upgrade from hardy to intrepid, or just to install updates for your current release?
[11:09] <nunuri> alt + f2 -> synaptic gaahl_ or apt-get update; apt-get upgrade
[11:10] <ActionParsnip2> gaahl_: for a system update but stay on the current release; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[11:11] <gaahl_> I want to upgrade to intrepid.
[11:11] <ActionParsnip2> !upgrade | gaahl_
[11:11] <ActionParsnip2> gaahl_: its all there buddy
[11:11] <prometheus77> hi, how to enable font antialiasing for qt3 and qt4 apps while not having kde? Which file should i edit to do it? I use Intrepid. Anyone?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip2> gaahl_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IntrepidUpgrades#Network%20Upgrade%20for%20Kubuntu%20Desktops%20(Recommended)
[11:12] <ActionParsnip2> gaahl_: more precise
[11:12] <gaahl_> Thank you.
[11:16] <nunuri> i do only need the linux-image and linux-header to compile a new kernel or?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip2> you'd need the source
[11:17] <nunuri> sources !! thanks i knew something is missing
[11:18] <ActionParsnip2> source code is compiled
[11:18] <ActionParsnip2> !kernel
[11:19] <nunuri> i have repalced all the hardy inirid and done a apt-get update; apt-get upgrade and now i install the 27 kernel ... that should leave me with kde3 on a 27 kernel ... *hopes*
[11:21] <nunuri> dist-upgrade wants to pull in all the kde4 things ...
[11:21] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: you can check
[11:21] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: man apt-get will give switches, one should be like a 'what if'
[11:22] <nunuri> testrun ? sounds good
[11:23] <ActionParsnip2> yeah, it'll simiulate what would happen but not do it
[11:23] <nunuri> good call
[11:24]  * nunuri dreams of all the things i could do with a "normal 16mb" internet connection ... i would break a lot of things i guess and than repair them again :)
[11:25] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: your upstream is probably quite slow
[11:25] <ActionParsnip2> nunuri: so servers are quite slow to upload if you run say an ftp server / http server
[11:27] <nunuri> slow is the word ... :) but eveything looks good so far ... new kernel compiled and no kde4 things ... so i guess i have to reboot to see if everything is ok ...
[11:29] <khalidmian> hi i tried using sudo apt-get install sun-java but it says there no package
[11:30] <nunuri> i think that is in kubuntu-extras khalidmian
[11:30] <khalidmian> oh ty i forget to install kubuntu extras
[11:30] <nunuri> :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip2> khalidmian: apt-cache search java | grep sun
[12:11] <Heliodor> How can i mount an HFS+ drive as read/write in kubuntu?
[12:11] <esperegu> I upgraded to kde4.2 but now when I log in and press the start/K button the keyboard stops working
[12:12] <Spinshank> gay all my settings reset when trying 2 instal flash player 10 64bit
[12:12] <esperegu> Also when I start a program it looks like the window manager is not present since the windows have no borders.
[12:12] <esperegu> Any suggestions?
[12:12] <gernot> Heliodor: Doesn't the + in HFS+ mean that Journaling is enabled? In that case you can't.
[12:12] <Heliodor> gernot: Ah, so i need to reformat it without journaling?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: is it all windows?
[12:13] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: looks like it
[12:13] <gernot> Heliodor: No, no, no. You can simply disable Jounaling in OS X.
[12:13] <Heliodor> gernot: Disable? Oh, nice :-D
[12:13] <Heliodor> gernot: Thanks for the help!!
[12:13] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: do you mean the top bar with close, minimise / maximise etc?
[12:14] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: yeah
[12:14] <gernot> Heliodor: Yeah, you should be able to find that command easily. Probably even in the Ubuntu wiki. I think it's DiskUtil that you want to use from the command line as far as I remember. There was something funny when trying to do that with the GUI Disk Utility.
[12:14] <Heliodor> I am going to miss kubuntu.....
[12:15] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: running compiz on an nvidia gfx card by any chance?
[12:15] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: nvidia I have.
[12:15] <Heliodor> gernot: Yeah, i think i have done that before when i made a backup
[12:15] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: donno if compiz is running
[12:15] <Heliodor> gernot: google is my friend :)
[12:15] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: how to check?
[12:15] <Heliodor> gernot: hearts to leave kubuntu for os x again
[12:15] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: kdesudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[12:15] <Heliodor> *hurts
[12:16] <gernot> It's tough, I know.
[12:16] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: add the line: Option "AddARGBGLXVisuals" "True"     to the screen section then restart x when it is next convenient
[12:17] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d1c6804df
[12:17] <Heliodor> gernot: Do you know if OS X install CD can read ntfs partitions?
[12:17] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: yeah add the line to the screen section
[12:17] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: http://esperegu.pastebin.com/d2f17353d
[12:17] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: gonna restart X now.
[12:18] <esperegu> brb
[12:20] <alt> )
[12:21] <alt> каг дела?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip2> alt: russian?
[12:21] <alt> no..ukrainian
[12:22] <ActionParsnip2> !ukrainian
[12:22] <ActionParsnip2> bah
[12:23] <alt> (( in this chanel i in) first
[12:23] <gernot> Heliodor: I don't. Why?
[12:28] <alt> in this chane some people talk in russian????????????
[12:28] <alt> or ukrainian
[12:28] <Dragnslcr> !ru
[12:37] <Kubunub> Hi! I've a problem. I can fill my /home partition till 25% usage. Then it's... full for some weird reason. Did anyone have this problem before / know how to fix it?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip2> Kubunub: could fsck the partition
[12:38] <Kubunub> Then I'd have to umount it or use the live cd?
[12:38] <ActionParsnip2> Kubunub: livecd is what i use
[12:38] <Kubunub> yeah, i will try that for now
[12:38] <Kubunub> thanks :)
[12:38] <ActionParsnip2> Kubunub: or you can boot to recover root console, umount the partitions and scan
[12:39] <Kubunub> ok, brb.. i hope :)
[12:39] <Spinshank> hey how can i set vlc 2 the default video player instead of dragon
[12:39] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: right click file -> open with, select other app, choose app then put a tick in always open files of this sort with this app
[12:39] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: and the config will be changed
[12:40] <Spinshank> sweet
[12:40] <Spinshank> it was just for .mkv
[12:42] <Spinshank> !Matroska
[12:42] <Spinshank> lol
[12:47] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: same result
[12:48] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: http://pastebin.com/f44f7ef91
[12:48] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: try adding more options like in my xorg.conf
[12:49] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: you think that might be a problem? It was working with 4.1 and works with gnome.
[12:49] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: ive seen a few folks say that, i dont understand it
[12:50] <ActionParsnip2> actually, i have an idea
[12:51] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: sudo apt-get install kdeartwork-theme-window
[12:51] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: ok. and relogin?
[12:52] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: just restart x, might be ok
[12:52] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: how?
[12:53] <ct529> anyone who has a clue about reverse engineering and exe file?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ubuntu-desktop-effects-fixing-the-missing-titlebar/
[12:53] <ct529> and a .dll .... sorry, I forgot
[12:54] <dr_Willis> ct529,  i would have to say good luck. :)
[12:54] <ct529> dr_Willis: it is only a very small exe .... I was wondering if there was a decompiler ....
[12:55] <jussi01> ct529: what are you trying to do exactly?
[12:55] <dr_Willis> ct529,  such things do exist
[12:56] <jussi01> ct529: if its just a selfextracting .exe for a driver or such then you cna do that easily
[12:56] <ct529> dr_Willis: try to reverse engineer a small exe and a dll ....
[12:56] <ct529> jussi01: no, it is a small classification software
[12:56] <dr_Willis> decompilers do exist..
[12:57] <ct529> jussi01: the .dll is just an extension to another package .... hey nothing illegal going on, clearly!
[12:58] <ct529> dr_Willis: do you know of any name? or of any good ones?
[12:58] <dr_Willis> ct529,  'google is our friend'   repeate after me....
[12:58] <dr_Willis> :)
[12:58] <dr_Willis> and ive not used  such a thinng in 10+ years. :)
[12:59] <ct529> dr_Willis: I have done some research. Results: I am more confused than before!
[13:01] <dr_Willis> ct529,  since the dos days are dead... decompil;ing stuff.. can get VERY VERY complex :)
[13:01] <dr_Willis> what do you wish to do with theprogram?
[13:03] <Kubunub> Hello, thar. I'm back and know the problem
[13:03] <Kubunub> The partition can only hold 44288 files fsck said
[13:04] <Kubunub> Is there a way to increase that?
[13:06] <DoDoENT> hello! Can someone help me with KDE 4.2?
[13:07] <ct529> dr_Willis: just rewrite it in a different form
[13:07] <DoDoENT> I've just done everything as explained here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 and after update, I can't log in into KDE anymore
[13:07] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: somehow kwin was not installed ????? I installed it with sudo apt-get install kde-window-manager and now I'm here with kde 4.2
[13:07] <esperegu> ActionParsnip2: thx for your help
[13:07] <DoDoENT> Where can I find some logs so I could conclude where is the problem?
[13:08] <ActionParsnip2> esperegu: awesome
[13:08] <dr_Willis> ct529,  rewrite in what 'form' ?
[13:09] <ct529> dr_Willis: as extension to R
[13:09] <Spinshank> hmm
[13:09] <Spinshank> amarok or kaffine?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip2> Spinshank: both
[13:10] <ct529> Spinshank: amarok 1, amarok 2 or kaffeine?
[13:10] <ct529> Spinshank: just to help you with more doubts
[13:10] <ct529> :)
[13:11] <ct529> Spinshank: at the moment I am using kaffeine, because amarok in 413 is incomplete (many regressions)
[13:12] <Spinshank> 1.4.10 amarok
[13:12] <ActionParsnip2> 1.4 amarok is nice
[13:12] <ct529> Spinshank: that should actually work well ....
[13:12] <Spinshank> hmm k
[13:14] <ct529> food is calling .... bye!
[13:20] <allanj_> I attempted to upgrade to KDE 4.2 last night, but ran into the following error, any suggestions:
[13:20] <allanj_> APT Error. Context:
[13:20] <allanj_>     Running dpkg,
[13:20] <allanj_>     [ /usr/bin/dpkg, --status-fd, 3, --unpack, /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4-0x1.edff4bf8e6fb4p-1504.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_i386.deb ],
[13:20] <allanj_>     Sup-process returned error code 1,
[13:20] <allanj_>     Error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_i386.deb : trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/debug/usr/lib/libkdeinit4_kwalletd.so', which is also in package kdelibs5-dbg.
[13:21] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: please use pastebin in future
[13:21] <allanj_> sorry, did that come through?
[13:21] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: use: sudo dpkg --force-all -i  /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4-0x1.edff4bf8e6fb4p-1504.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_i386.deb
[13:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hi all! I have just put 2 Gb more RAM in my system! Do i have to reinstall? When i open system monitor, it's say 0B RAM
[13:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i have 4Gb!
[13:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> Seems like linux dont get hardware updates automatic?
[13:23] <Spinshank> hey guys do you know the widget program that shows tracks how do i get that working?
[13:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> When i put more RAM i a Windows machine, it just works
[13:24] <Dr_Willis_> Ram  upgrades should  work fine in linux. theres no 'updates' to it.
[13:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Nothing to setup, but what about linux? Is there a command to perform when upgrading RAM?
[13:24] <Dr_Willis_> Unless the bios is having an issue with  the chips
[13:24] <Dr_Willis_> Nothing to setup in linux either
[13:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dr_Willis_: But System monitor say 0Byte RAM
[13:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dr_Willis_: Ok, in BIOS thay are, 2 x 2Gb
[13:24] <allanj_> ActionParsnip2: I got: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4-0x1.edff4bf8e6fb4p-1504.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_i386.deb
[13:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Before i change, system monitor say 2Gb
[13:25] <Dr_Willis_> I wouldent trust what just one program says
[13:25] <Dr_Willis_> try the 'free' command
[13:25] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: yes, forcefully install it
[13:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i chanhe, and now its zero
[13:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dr_Willis_: Free? Maybe reinstall program?
[13:26] <Dr_Willis_> the command name is 'free'
[13:26] <Dr_Willis_> theres other ways to check memory also
[13:26] <Pici> free -m
[13:26] <allanj_> ActionParsnip2: I got: Errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4-0x1.edff4bf8e6fb4p-1504.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_i386.deb
[13:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dr_Willis_: In run og in terminal?
[13:26] <Spinshank> hmm
[13:26] <Dr_Willis_> free is a teminal command.. yes...
[13:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> Or*
[13:26] <Dr_Willis_> Try it and see? :)
[13:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dr_Willis_: Sorry, im new in linux
[13:27] <Heliodor> how do i set the user ID on files?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis_> 'the terminal is our friend'
[13:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dont want to mess it up! I have done before :-D
[13:27] <Heliodor> chown 1000 filenam?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis_> Heliodor,  you can use chown USERNAME file
[13:27] <esperegu> where to change the panel color?
[13:27] <Dr_Willis_> to set the OWNER
[13:27] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: did you use: sudo dpkg --force-all -i /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4-0x1.edff4bf8e6fb4p-1504.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_i386.deb
[13:27] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_: yes, but i an not sure that works for HFS+ files?
[13:28] <Dr_Willis_> Heliodor,  no idea on HFS+
[13:28] <allanj_> ActionParsnip2: cut and paste
[13:28] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_: Ah, just have to try it then.
[13:28] <Heliodor> Dr_Willis_: thanks
[13:29] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: best way
[13:30] <allanj_> ActionParsnip2: I mean, I did cut and paste it exact
[13:33] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: ok
[13:33] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: try: sudo apt-get clean; sudo apt-get upgrade
[13:35] <vlastik> hallo, have anybody here an Simple Instant Messenger (SIM)? I have a little problem with it - in the container (window of )
[13:36] <vlastik> sorry - chat window do not show a sended text
[13:36] <allanj_> ActionParsnip2: says "error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime-dbg_4-0x1.edff4bf8e6fb4p-1504.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa3_i386.deb"
[13:36] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: ok, what error?
[13:37] <vlastik> in history the text is shown, but already in the chat window not - have anybody an idea, how to fix it?
[13:37] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: can you pastebin the whole error please
[13:37] <ActionParsnip2> !paste | allanj_
[13:38] <allanj_> ActionParsnip2: k
[13:39] <Wulong> How can I get device notifier/KDE to automount?
[13:39] <allanj_> ActionParsnip2: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114022/
[13:40] <Spinshank> !g15
[13:40] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: No such file or directory
[13:40] <Spinshank> hmm
[13:40] <ActionParsnip2> allanj_: the file doesnt exist
[13:40] <ActionParsnip2> Wulong: dolphin has a notification bit that alerts to removable media
[13:41] <ActionParsnip2> Wulong: if its an internal partition, I'd look into adding a line to fstab
[13:42] <Wulong> It's an external disk. Want it to automount whenever it I insert a media.
[13:42] <Wulong> New Device Notifier with automount might be what I'm looking for.
[13:44] <ActionParsnip2> Wulong: give dolphin a try
[13:44] <ActionParsnip2> Wulong: plug in the usb drive and watch dolphin, an icon will appear that you can easily access
[13:47] <manumar> hello!
[13:47] <manumar> I need help with onething
[13:47] <manumar> xd
[13:48] <manumar> I have apache and then I cant use remote desk
[13:48] <manumar> Can someone helpme?
[13:49] <Spinshank> whats a good C++ compiler for linux?
[13:49] <Wulong> g++
[13:49] <ghostcube> manumar: maybe a bit more info about the prob u have
[13:51] <manumar> Since I installed apache 2 remote desk dont run
[13:51] <manumar> the VNC server is the pc (kubuntu) where I installed apache
[13:51] <Spinshank> wouldent freebsd bet better for website hosting?
[13:52] <ikonia> Spinshank: people like different things
[13:56] <esperegu> where to change the panel color?
[14:06] <JuJuBee> My kdm.log file is growing out of control.  It is currently up to 500 MB.  Can someone help me try to fix the problem?  I think it is my ATI drivers (fglrx)   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/114032/ <- the output in kdm.log
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> JuJuBee: Go to system settings -> service manager
[14:07] <JontheEchidna> then there should be a randr service
[14:08] <JontheEchidna> oh, service manager is in the advanced tab btw
[14:08] <JontheEchidna> disable that randr service
[14:08] <JontheEchidna> (click it, press stop, then uncheck the box)
[14:09] <JuJuBee> JontheEchidna: Dont see one....
[14:09] <JontheEchidna> KDE 4.1 or 4.2?
[14:10] <JontheEchidna> oh, different problem then I was thinking
[14:10] <JontheEchidna> hmm, a bug with the drivers I guess
[14:10] <JuJuBee> Still kde 3.x
[14:10] <JontheEchidna> oh
[14:11] <JuJuBee> Not using 8.10, using 8.04.1
[14:11] <JuJuBee> Don't like KDE 4.x  doesn't work with my dual head display.
[14:12] <JuJuBee> When I tried to upgrade, my dual head config did this...  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=879186
[14:13] <Spinshank> i forgot hout 2 change my desktop background
[14:23] <CQ> Spinshank: right-click on teh desktop
[14:26] <vbgunz> how do I get chm support for okular? I remember one tmie it had it.?
[14:33] <ares28ultra> Hallo !!!! at all...
[14:34]  * robin0800 https://wiki.edubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha4/Kubuntu
[14:34] <ares28ultra> Hope you're fine!
[14:34] <ares28ultra> This is anoter good day to use kubuntu, every time u use kubuntu is a good day...
[14:36] <ares28ultra> anche se qualke volta mi fa proprio incazzare kubby bello!
[14:40] <allanj_> although ActionParsnip2 has left the building, any who know him thank him for his help; the command he suggested didn't work, but a variation on the theme did
[15:03] <ares28ultra> Ci sono utenti italiani di KDE ??
[15:04] <Dr_willis> !it
[15:04]  * Dr_willis guesses at the language
[15:05] <ares28ultra> thanks, the former was only to know if this is an Internationa IRC chan..
[15:10] <JuJuBee> Can I disable the kdm logging?  My log file is 500M since this morning.
[15:17] <ares28ultra> yes, try to disable the logs daemons in /etc/rc2.d/
[15:17] <ares28ultra> read README for more info...
[15:17] <ares28ultra> understood?
[15:18] <seti> hoi
[15:18] <seti> hab mal ne frage
[15:19] <seti> gibt es ne gute anleitung im netz wie ich mich gescheit anlege um meine sat-schüssel mit multifeed-halter auzurichten?
[15:19] <seti> ich will mit varibelem halter, 19.2E und 28.5E bekommen
[15:19] <seti> habe ne schüssel >1m Durchmesser
[15:19] <Tm_T> !de | seti
[15:20] <seti> witz
[15:20] <seti> oh, shit
[15:20] <seti> bin gar nicht im vdr-channel
[15:20] <seti> sry
[15:20] <seti> hab mich verklickt
[15:22] <Tm_T> ...
[15:23] <vbgunz> I am on the latest jaunty for amd64 and no matter what I try I cannto get sound in flash. I tried flashplugin-nonfree, removed it and tried the manual 64 download from adobe. I get it to play just fine but no sound :/
[15:30] <thomas> does kubuntu use pulse audio?
[15:30] <thomas> 8.10, that is
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> I don't think it does use pulseaudio
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> er
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> that was awkward
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> I don't think it uses pulseaduio
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> blah, I can't type today
[15:34] <thomas> JontheEchidna: That's kinda what I thot, it's a gnome thing, I think... but I'm not too sure about KDE
[15:34] <melon> hi people
[15:34] <melon> how a u :D:D:D
[15:37] <JuJuBee> How do I downgrade xorg ?  I have a problem with fglrx and current release.  Online suggests to downgrade.
[15:41] <JuJuBee> Also, can I test out multiple desktops using a liveCD?
[15:55] <jmulloy> Can anyone recommend some resources for a IT department that will be changing over a school district from a mac platform to Kubuntu?
[15:56] <Tm_T> !ltsp | jmulloy
[15:56] <Tm_T> for starters, I guess
[15:58] <jmulloy> We are implementing LTSP in one of our libraries for thin clients but we are also acquiring 100+ laptops ... we need them to authenticate to MAC OSX servers, mount their home directory, and we also need to lock down the desktop somehow.
[15:59] <Tm_T> jmulloy: perhaps kiosktool could be good for that too then
[15:59] <eagles0513875> jmulloy: to mount a home directory on linux you would need nfs
[15:59] <jmulloy> I have read about KIOSK but I am not sure it still applies to KDE4 and specifically plasma...
[16:00] <jmulloy> Do you know if kiosktool is still effective on KDE4?
[16:02] <Tm_T> jmulloy: AFAIK yes, though still using qt3 or something
[16:02] <jmulloy> Hrm, I must be doing something wrong then...
[16:03] <Tm_T> I might be wrong here, wouldn't be first time
[16:03] <jmulloy> I have tried to use it on my son's computer ... he is 2 and manages to do things to the desktop I never imagined.
[16:03] <Tm_T> maybe he's too young to do computers, who knows (;)
[16:04] <eagles0513875> jmulloy: might have a next genious on ur hands there
[16:04] <eagles0513875> lol what kinda stuff does he do
[16:04] <jmulloy> He really like gcompris and tuxpaint ... but I figure he is a good test for what teenagers might try to do :)
[16:04] <eagles0513875> lol true
[16:05]  * Tm_T wonders if #kubuntu-offtopic could be better for this chatter
[16:05] <jmulloy> He opens up all sorts of plasmoids, loads up music on amarok, the best thing is when he completely cleared the desktop ... no taskbars or anything.
[16:07] <jmulloy> So even though I really love the look and feel of KDE4 should I probably stick with KDE3 since it seems kiosktool definately works for the?
[16:07] <junkY_work> hey, i have a problem with kubuntu on a laptop. when the system boots X trys to start but drops to console, some seconds later it starts and shows kdm, everything normal
[16:08] <junkY_work> but when i login to kde the login sound interrupts after about 1 second. the rest seems stable
[16:09] <jmulloy> That happens on my system too ... didn't think much of it.
[16:09] <junkY_work> jmulloy: the sound problem or the 2x X start?
[16:09] <jmulloy> both
[16:09] <eagles0513875> this is really upsetting me im back to square one on this darn it
[16:10] <junkY_work> jmulloy: which video driver are you using?
[16:10] <yao_ziyuan> i read on wikipedia that kubuntu 9.04 will use kpackagekit instead of adept
[16:10] <yao_ziyuan> i wonder if i can use it now (8.10)
[16:11] <bindaas> strange ,just installed kubuntu intrepid but i cant see firefox in the repo ..
[16:11] <eagles0513875> yao_ziyuan: if you ask in ubuntu+1 channel you can get the latest image of the next release
[16:11] <eagles0513875> !info firefox
[16:11] <jmulloy> junky: nvidia
[16:11] <eagles0513875> bindaas: its there apt-get install firefox
[16:11] <yao_ziyuan> eagles0513875: i mean, using kpackagekit in kubuntu 8.10
[16:12] <bindaas> hmm looks like my source.list is broken
[16:12] <bindaas> apt-get install firefox does not find package :(
[16:12] <eagles0513875> bindaas: you could bypass the repos and get it from firefox site i think as well
[16:12] <jmulloy> junky: come to think of it it may have started doing that when I enabled the proprietary drivers...
[16:13] <wesley_> hello how do i put osx to my grub menu list ?
[16:13] <bindaas> eagles0513875: indeed,but i waas finding the real issue ..
[16:14] <bindaas> s/waas/was
[16:14] <BluesKaj> howdy all
[16:14] <wesley_> Hody
[16:14] <eagles0513875> !firefox
[16:15] <eagles0513875> !firefox | bindaas
[16:15] <eagles0513875> check out that help bindaas
[16:15] <bindaas> firefox is not the default in kubuntu
[16:15] <wesley_> WoW my laptop battery only last about 50 min
[16:16] <bindaas> sudo apt-cache search firefox //does not give me anything
[16:16] <eagles0513875> bindaas:  i know that but this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FirefoxNewVersion should help ya out
[16:16] <eagles0513875> !find firefox
[16:16] <wesley_> I have osx on sda one tha would be hd0.01
[16:17] <eagles0513875> bindaas: follow that help link and follow the manual install instructions
[16:17] <bindaas> eagles0513875: i want to fix repo issue ..
[16:18] <eagles0513875> !sourceomatic
[16:18] <eagles0513875> bindaas: im not much help there bro :(
[16:19] <bindaas> eagles0513875: no problem,dude
[16:20] <chris__> can anyone tell me how to change my splash screen?? I've gone into the manager and click "get new themes" and once clicked on they show to be installed but never appear in the list to be selected in the manager window!! Any advice appreciated
[16:20] <yao_ziyuan> i'm very interested in "pidgin-knotify" which lets pidgin use kde's knotify notification system to show buddy status changes. it seems to be included in fedora, and i'd like to see it in kubuntu.
[16:20] <eagles0513875> bindaas: if you are in dire need of firefox you could try if ur up for it doing the manual install from the tar file
[16:22] <bindaas> eagles0513875: firefox is not the issue, i dont see mysql server in repo now :0
[16:22] <eagles0513875> bindaas: open up adept and see whats check for repos
[16:23] <eagles0513875> bindaas: your issue might be a simple re checking of boxes in adept sources lol
[16:25] <penela> Can I test a dual head setup with live CD?  with different desktop on each display?
[16:27] <penela> My System Settings -> Display shows VGA-0 and LVDS but cannot seem to get sepparate output, only mirror.
[16:33] <bindaas> eagles0513875: thanks for the pointer,checking sources in adept installer did it :D
[16:33] <bindaas> simplicity++
[16:33] <eagles0513875> bindaas: :)
[16:33] <eagles0513875> sometimes we dont think about the simplest of things
[16:33] <bindaas> yep
[16:33] <eagles0513875> we make them a million times more harder then they really need to be
[16:34] <bindaas> true,but i dont unserstand why were the sources not checked at start
[16:34] <chris__> how can i select one of my installed splash screens .. they do not show up in the list with the default ones in the window manager??
[16:35] <bindaas> kde 4 is nice in look ,dolphin is super cool
[16:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> WOW! Im impressed!! Really!! I have just going from 32 bit to 64 bit, without loose any settins at all :-D
[16:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dame nice fast computer now :-D
[16:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> Kubuntu Rulez!!
[16:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sysinfo for 'SPOTLAP': Linux 2.6.27-11-generic running KDE 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3), CPU: Intel(R)Core2DuoCPUT7250@2.00GHz at 800 MHz (3990 bogomips), HD: 11/105GB, RAM: 785/3952MB, 126 proc's, 3.42min up
[16:42] <CQ> there's no way to move to 64 bit without reinstall ist there?
[16:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> No
[16:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> I just put in DVD with Kubuntu, choose install, choose manual, then mark /, mount as /, format, Ext 3, and then remember delete swap, make swap again, and then ONLY mount /home, NOT format!!
[16:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Kubuntu 64Bit that is
[16:44] <CQ> I have all on one partition, 40GB on my laptop... I'd need to backup
[16:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then u have to save user /home/user to external drive, maybe burn on DVD
[16:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> Remember to use "Show hiddin files" to get then with
[16:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats all the cfg's afaik
[16:46] <CQ> Sp0tKubuntu: maybed I can use gparted to free some space at the end and move home there
[16:46] <CQ> then I have it mounted
[16:46] <Sp0tKubuntu> You only have to reinstall packets, but i think theres a way to back them up to i guess, but thats not so important, when u got fast internet
[16:46] <Sp0tKubuntu> CQ: That i dont know, im new in linux, just found out this myself
[16:47] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i will not recommend 64 bit with only 2Gb RAM, 4 is better, but thats just me, i like it rough
[16:48] <BluesKaj> CQ, the OS should be on a 10G partition (depending on the number atypes of apps ) and /home partiton can be the remainder
[16:49] <CQ> BluesKaj: yes, that's what I shoudl have done...
[16:49] <CQ> my workstation is set upp like that
[16:49] <neothecat> does anybody know anything like foxmarks for konqueror?  or even better, something that works with foxmarks?
[16:49] <jmulloy> Thank you to Tm_T and eagles I will keep researching kiosktools and ltsp.  I am psyched that we have an opportunity to start implementing open source in our school I just want to do it right.
[16:49] <CQ> with a normal root volume, rest on LVM
[16:49] <jmulloy> take care!
[16:50] <slow-motion> hi
[16:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> I just bought 2 x 2 Gb G.Skill DDRII 667 for 65.35 $
[16:54] <CQ> hm, how stable is alpha1? :)
[16:54] <chris__> I have a problem with adding themes .. they always show to be installed but never appear in the manager window .. any thoughts?
[16:54] <CQ> err, slpha4 (or what's the version? I saw it this morning9
[16:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> What happens if i format swap only, will my system making problems then?
[16:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> I forgot to format it when i installed the 64 version and deleted the 32 bit verison
[16:58] <vit> jalva
[17:00] <ares28ultra> hey people...!!!
[17:01] <ares28ultra> does someone is the owner of an ACER 1363??
[17:01] <ares28ultra> it' a notebook...
[17:06] <Ghabit> Hello! How I can install kde 4.2 into my normal kubuntu?
[17:06] <Captain_Haddock> cmake error: Could NOT find GMP (missing: GMP_INCLUDE_DIR GMP_LIBRARIES)
[17:06] <Captain_Haddock> any ideas how to fix this?
[17:06] <Captain_Haddock> Ghabit: see link in topic
[17:06] <Ghabit> Captain_Haddock: I have allready. There are instruction of repo adding, which package should I install?
[17:07] <Captain_Haddock> Ghabit: I just had to run an update and upgrade
[17:07] <Ghabit> Captain_Haddock: I have not installed kde4 before
[17:07] <Captain_Haddock> which version of kubuntu?
[17:17] <Ghabit> http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid/main Packages
[17:17] <Ghabit>   403 Forbidden
[17:17] <Ghabit> What can I do with it?
[17:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> Kubuntu really likes RAM, theres a HUGH difference from 32 Bit with 2Gb Ram, and 32 Bit with 4Gb Ram, to 64Bit with 4Gb RAM!
[17:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe its the way 64bit handle the more RAM i can feel, but i feel POWER :-D
[17:22] <HerrHut> does someone know a solution to get a creative x-fi xtreme music soundcard working?
[17:22] <g_> Can anyone tell me why kubuntu is so incapable of a simply formatting a flash SD card?
[17:24] <g_> this is b/s I can't even delete stuff off of it
[17:24] <g_> I guess I'll have to go to windows to get the job done
[17:26] <genii> HerrHut: Perhaps visit http://opensource.creative.com/soundcard.html    The drivers there were tested on 7.10 but may also work for later versions.
[17:27] <genii> g_: What sort of command are you putting in this attempt of formatting?
[17:27] <g_> well I tried to right click and delete a picture
[17:27] <g_> then I looked for a format command in the file broswer
[17:28] <g_> I believe gnome has this option
[17:28] <g_> hell I was even going to go to gparted but its not installed
[17:29] <CQ> g_: sudo apt-get install gparted from teh command line, or use adept
[17:29] <g_> I even loaded dolphin as root and it still wont let me delete anything
[17:30] <CQ> is the card write protected maybe?
[17:30] <g_> nope
[17:31] <g_> this kind of crap would never happen on gnome or kde 3.5 you know
[17:31] <hubar> Has anyone managed to get konqueror (KDE4.2) to play  nice with gmail?
[17:31] <g_> I'm guessing it was never included
[17:32] <CQ> run ount and see if it's mounted readonly for some reason
[17:33] <CQ> sorry mount
[17:33] <hubar> Why doesn't konq also use webkit as engine?
[17:33] <CQ> ask on #kde? :)
[17:34] <g_> I can't delete this thing in fricking gparted either, geeze, its mounted
[17:34] <Captain_Haddock> hubar: webkit is a fork of khtml which konq uses.
[17:35] <gorgonizer> hubar: I set Konqueror to identify itself as Opera 9, and Gmail seemed fine..
[17:35] <CQ> g_ unmount it, then format it
[17:35] <CQ> you can only format unmounted filesystems
[17:35] <g_> but how do i format it?
[17:35] <hubar> gorgonizer, hmm, maybe my ident string I stole from firefox is wrong....
[17:36] <CQ> gparted should be able to do it, what filesystem do you want on there?
[17:36] <g_> gparted won't even recognize that its there
[17:36] <gorgonizer> I just selected the option in Tools -> Change Browser Identification
[17:36] <CQ> ?? pastebin the output of mount;df-h;fdisk -l please ...
[17:37] <g_> its cool Im just going to boot into windows and save all of this hassle for a simple fricking file deletion
[17:38] <CQ> but you can see teh files?
[17:38] <g_> yes I can see them and download them
[17:38] <CQ> then they should be under /mount/something
[17:38] <g_> and do everything except delete them
[17:38] <g_> I know what they are under
[17:38] <g_> I got the path
[17:39] <CQ> then mount shoudl show if it's read write or read only (rw or ro)
[17:40] <g_> rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=hal,uid=1000,utf8,shortname=mixed)
[17:40] <quassel219> yey...just installed alpha3...i is very pretty....but i am struggeling with getting my tuch-pad to accept mouse click when i tapp at it...any ideas?
[17:41] <CQ> quassel alpha4 is out since today ...
[17:41] <CQ> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/JauntyJackalope/Alpha4/Kubuntu
[17:41] <g_> finally it worked
[17:42] <CQ> g_ if you go to the pat and then sudo rm the file, dows that work?
[17:42] <quassel219> thanx....i'll see if upgrading helps
[17:42] <g_> its cool
[17:42] <g_> thanks guys
[17:44] <jamfx> hi everyone
[17:44] <hubar> When are we going to see Jaunty released?
[17:44] <Unksi> april
[17:44] <CQ> 9.04, meaning april 2009
[17:44] <quassel219> probably late april
[17:44] <hubar> only 2 months away.
[17:44] <hubar> nice!
[17:45] <jamfx> i got a problem with my grub-boot-loader
[17:45] <CQ> release cycle is slightly faster than debian stable ...
[17:45] <jamfx> can somebody give me a helping hand on this
[17:46] <CQ> not unless you tell us what the problem is ...
[17:47] <jamfx> thanks cq: ok, lets start
[17:47] <jamfx> I do have a (fake)raid 0 with windows in my pc
[17:47] <jamfx> on the third hdd i do have a ntfs partition and my kubuntu instlled
[17:48] <HerrHut> when isntalling the creative driver always stops at
[17:48] <HerrHut> Copy module files...
[17:48] <HerrHut> Update module dependency relationships...
[17:48] <jamfx> now I am booting from winxp but, the kubuntu is installed on the other hdd. Even if i change the booting hdd in bios no grub is loaded
[17:48] <jamfx> so I can not boot to kubuntu in no way.
[17:48] <|DarkSmoke|> what size should i make /var and /tmp ?
[17:49] <jamfx> grub is never shown
[17:49] <jamfx> I also would love to use the windowsxp bootmanager to jump to grub.
[17:49] <|DarkSmoke|> jamfx did you install winxp first or kubuntu first?
[17:49] <jamfx> and boot my kubuntu there
[17:49] <jamfx> WinXP was first
[17:49] <jamfx> afterwords kubuntu was installed
[17:49] <|DarkSmoke|> and
[17:49] <|DarkSmoke|> after you installed kubuntu
[17:50] <|DarkSmoke|> and rebooted , what happened?
[17:50] <jamfx> nothing changed ;-)
[17:50] <|DarkSmoke|> hmmm
[17:50] <jamfx> windows came up and booted without any questions
[17:50] <quassel219> did you write grub to MBR?
[17:50] <jamfx> I hope...
[17:50] <jamfx> :D
[17:50] <jamfx> maybe I didn't
[17:50] <jamfx> ...
[17:51] <jamfx> can i "fix" this?
[17:51] <jamfx> somehow?
[17:51] <quassel219> woyld be faster to reinstall ubuntu if you dont know linux
[17:52] <DarkSmoke> listen up jamfx
[17:52] <jamfx> @quassel219: ok, I would do this, but I need to use the alternate cd to be able to see the RAID
[17:52] <jamfx> ok
[17:52] <DarkSmoke> did you install kubuntu on the second HD and windows on the first hd?
[17:52] <jamfx> @darksmoke: yes
[17:52] <DarkSmoke> hmm
[17:52] <jamfx> first harddisks are in raid 0
[17:53] <jamfx> so there are 2x 250GB in raid array (raid0) and the third harddisk is a "simple" single hdd
[17:53] <ghostcube> i have an idea , maybe  he should change boot setup to first boot linux and tzhen edit grub in there
[17:53] <DarkSmoke> if you are using livecd you have an Advanced button on which hard drive to install grub , on the alternate you should have that option to somewhere, if you find it, install grub on the first hard driver where windows is installed.
[17:53] <ghostcube> oO
[17:53] <jamfx> @darksmoke, maybe I manipulated this... so I will retry
[17:53] <DarkSmoke> ok
[17:54] <jamfx> I will return soon (hopefully)
[17:54] <DarkSmoke> if you find it, install it on the first hdd
[17:54] <DarkSmoke> where winxp is installed.
[17:54] <kameluel_> hello can someone here speak german?
[17:54] <ghostcube> klar aber geh in den de channel
[17:54] <ghostcube> !de
[17:54] <DarkSmoke> !gr
[17:54] <DarkSmoke> hmm
[17:54] <DarkSmoke> its de?
[17:54] <kameluel_> ja klar
[17:54] <DarkSmoke> o
[17:54] <ghostcube> sure ;)
[17:54] <DarkSmoke> ok
[17:55] <kameluel_> danke ich geh in ubuntu de
[17:55] <kameluel_> tschüs
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> then whats gr ?
[17:55] <jamfx> greek
[17:55] <ghostcube> greek
[17:55] <jamfx> :-)
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> i see
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> lol
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> !mt
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> :(
[17:55] <ghostcube> mt ???
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> but there is #ubuntu-mt
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> yeah
[17:55] <jamfx> @some I am a german guy but speek greek, 2
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> my island
[17:55] <jamfx> hehe
[17:55] <jamfx> ok, I will see you all soon
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> Malta
[17:55] <jamfx> thx
[17:55] <DarkSmoke> ever heard bout it?
[17:55] <ghostcube> oh ok :)
[17:55] <jamfx> for your help
[17:56] <ghostcube> sure lol i know malta
[17:56] <jamfx> I will have to reboot this machine ;-)
[17:56] <ghostcube> germans are good in geography ;)
[17:56] <jamfx> bye
[17:56] <DarkSmoke> tyt dude
[17:56] <DarkSmoke> i see
[17:56] <DarkSmoke> maltese are good at rolling
[17:56] <DarkSmoke> haha
[18:05] <alt> hi peoplS
[18:06] <jamfx> hi there, back again
[18:06] <jamfx> but still have to reboot
[18:07] <Alt> lo
[18:07] <Alt> l
[18:08] <Alt> in this chanel have bin american peopls?
[18:08] <cjae> how come the instruction for putting a copy of ubuntu on a thumb drive don't work for kubuntu?
[18:09] <jamfx> @cjae: the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu is KDE in Kubuntu and Gnome in Ubuntu so the base is the same
[18:11] <cjae> jamfx: ya I know, but if you go to kubuntu guide it points you to the pendrive site and I have tried the instsuctions twice and do not work
[18:12] <jamfx> so here I am again. I have to generate my partitions manually
[18:12] <jamfx> I would love to have 3 partitions
[18:13] <jamfx> 1st. rootpartion (/) 2nd. /swap 3rd (/home) but the Grub must be on the first windows-hdd, how can I do this?
[18:18] <jamfx> which of my partition should be pimary / whichone should be logical?
[18:19] <jamfx> ? anyone here?
[18:20] <blahjake> jamfx: grub will go on the MBR then use chaining to boot a particular partition
[18:20] <blahjake> jamfx: you are limited to 4 primary partitions IIRC, but all your linux related can be logical on a single primary
[18:20] <jamfx> the mbr is on the raid0 will this go there automagically?
[18:21] <blahjake> jamfx: i believe so but you may want to have someone else confirm there's nothing funny with a RAID setup
[18:21] <ScytheBlade1> it depends on your raid0
[18:21] <blahjake> jamfx: hardware RAID?
[18:21] <ScytheBlade1> It's kind of hard for a computer to boot when your MBR is split across two disks
[18:21] <ScytheBlade1> read: impossible
[18:22] <ScytheBlade1> So details of your setup would be needed
[18:22] <jamfx> @blahjake: nope; fakeraid ;-)
[18:22] <jamfx> I am using the alternate installcd which has SATA-Fake-Raid drivers enabled
[18:22] <ScytheBlade1> jamfx: define two raid setups. Use raid1 for /boot, and keep it as the first partition on all of the disks. Then make a secondary raid0, for your actual OS/data
[18:22] <ScytheBlade1> s/setups/arrays/
[18:24] <jamfx> @scytheblade1: I don't want to have a raid for my kubuntu, this is not neccessary. I just want the GRUB to be on the fakeraid, so I can choose between Win and Kubuntu on startup
[18:25] <ScytheBlade1> well, grub has two stages. One of which is on your MBR, another of which requires an actual partition. If you want to raid that partition, you almost 100% of the time have to keep that partition as raid1
[18:25] <artur_> Hi all. I have a problem with the keyboard configuration.  It's a US International keyboard, and i have to configure it to use the accents grave (`), acute (´) and circumflex (^) .  I can use it but the problem is that i cannot put them ON the letters.  Ps.: Now, my keyboard is configured as US Internacional and the Variant  altgr-intl.
[18:26] <Captain_Haddock> artur_: change the keyboard layout in systemsettings
[18:27] <jamfx> @skythe: ok, as far as i understood there should be no problem going on with my installation, the installer will automaticaly put grub on the raid?
[18:27] <Captain_Haddock> if youŕe asking how to add the accents to the characters
[18:27] <Captain_Haddock> press ' + e to get é
[18:27] <ScytheBlade1> jamfx: honestly I'm not sure. I hand-roll kernels and bootloaders, so I have no idea if that will work perfectly or otherwise :)
[18:27] <Captain_Haddock> and so on
[18:28] <jamfx> I will give this a try and let you know :-)
[18:28] <artur_> Captain_Haddock: i know! i had already used this!  In my language we have these kind of accents... and ~ too..   But I cannot put them ON the letters
[18:28] <scots> Hi all. Having some issues upgrading Kubuntu 8.01 to KDE 4.2, any gurus around? :]
[18:28] <ScytheBlade1> I can tell you that sticking your /boot partition on a raid0 will not work out too well
[18:28] <artur_> Captain_Haddock: if i press ' and e ... i get 'e
[18:29] <artur_> 'a
[18:29] <artur_> ^a
[18:29] <Captain_Haddock> then your keyboard layout is not set correctly
[18:29] <HappySmileMan> "Alt Gr" + 'e' = é for me
[18:29] <artur_> Captain_Haddock: exactly
[18:29] <jamfx> @skythe: all linuxpartitions are NOT on the raid
[18:29] <HappySmileMan> But can only get that accent, not the other too (same with other vowels)
[18:30] <artur_> Captain_Haddock: and i want to fix it... I want pro press  '  and the " e"  to get  " é"
[18:30] <Captain_Haddock> artur_: system settings, regional & language, keyboard layout
[18:30] <artur_> Captain_Haddock: i'm there... and then?
[18:31] <Captain_Haddock> your layout should be USA, us, intl, us
[18:33] <artur_> Captain_Haddock: i´ve already tried this. But there´s the problem yet.. the same problem.  I cannot put them on the letters
[18:33] <artur_> only after or before the letters.
[18:33] <Captain_Haddock> add another one without the international variant and enable the layout switcher (give it another name)
[18:34] <Geggele> helloo people
[18:34] <jamfx> hello geegele
[18:34] <Captain_Haddock> artur_: you might want to restart KDE if this is your login, I guess
[18:35] <artur_> is there some way to make the system go back.  Like is possible in Windows where is possible to go back the registry.
[18:35] <Captain_Haddock> that should have been "first login" above
[18:35] <Captain_Haddock> no, I'm not aware of system restore for Kubuntu
[18:36] <Captain_Haddock> but I can tell you that I have keyboard layouts working very well here
[18:36] <Captain_Haddock> séñor <-- easy as pie :)
[18:37] <xevix> *señor if that's spanish, hehe
[18:37] <Captain_Haddock> true :D
[18:37] <scots> Has anyone else had problems upgrading stock Kubuntu 8.10 to KDE 4.2 using the instructions on the kubuntu.org KDE 4.2 page? : /
[18:37] <Captain_Haddock> what problems?
[18:38] <scots> Specifically, adding "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main" to package manager in Third Party tab as instructed,
[18:38] <artur_> Captain_Haddock: i used to have my keyboard perfect 7 day ago.
[18:38] <stdin> scots: project-neon is not 4.2
[18:38] <scots> dropping to terminal and adding the key by pasting the line perfectly off the webpage
[18:38] <stdin> it's trunk (4.3)
[18:39] <scots> .. results in nothing
[18:39] <stdin> scots: if a command doesn't give you an error, it means there was no error
[18:39] <scots> "http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2"
[18:40] <Captain_Haddock> that has deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[18:40] <stdin> scots: that page does not mention neon, it uses the kubuntu-experimental PPA
[18:40] <scots> "Packages for Kubuntu 8.10 can be installed by following the instructions below."  1, 2, 3 per website
[18:40] <Captain_Haddock> nothing to do with neon
[18:40] <scots> They perhaps should remove the faulty information from the page then : [
[18:40] <stdin> scots: what faulty information? you still haven't said what error there was
[18:41] <scots> I installed Kubuntu 8.10. I wish to upgrade to KDE 4.2. The cookbook on the Kubuntu page proposes to get you to just such a destination by using 6 steps
[18:42] <stdin> scots: yes?
[18:42] <scots> adding deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main to third party sources in package manager, adding the key, use adept updater, and allegedly, success
[18:42] <scots> Adding that URI gives me a massive wall of Fail
[18:42] <Captain_Haddock> scots: according to your statement above, you are adding neon and not experimental
[18:42] <stdin> care to share?
[18:42] <Captain_Haddock> fursther above
[18:42] <Captain_Haddock> -s
 Specifically, adding "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/project-neon/ubuntu intrepid main" to package manager in Third Party tab as instructed,
[18:42] <jamfx> @skytheblade1: I just reinstalled (the x-th time) my kubuntu. Now I did as I told you before. But no GRUB is seen... During installation, it asked me if it should put the grub on the MBR, Windows was found, but still no grub...
[18:43] <Stonki> hello, since the upgrade to kde 4.2 I don't have  sounds anymore. Bug or Feature ?
[18:43] <scots> Captain: Thank you, I will remove the experimental URI and substitute the Neon URI you posted.
[18:44] <stdin> scots: you're not listening
[18:44] <scots> However, I would like to reinforce the fact that.. what I pasted is what's on the Kubuntu.org website as the method to upgrade an 8.10 installation to 4.2
[18:44] <Captain_Haddock> scots: no, you want the experimental URI, not the neon URI
[18:45] <scots>  -
[18:45] <scots> *facepalm* My copy buffer had that from another webpage. I apologize. My issue is - using the information from the site, I'm getting nowhere
[18:45] <Captain_Haddock> i.e., you want the one listed at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 which has always pointed to experimental
[18:45] <Captain_Haddock> it worked for me fine.
[18:45] <stdin> scots: you still haven't said what went wrong
[18:46] <scots> - Let me add - I very much appreciate your time, sorry if I sound argumentive; I'm not. It's the frustration talking
[18:46] <Captain_Haddock> no worries
[18:46] <scots> ok! Package manager. Third party sources. Added per webpage
[18:47] <scots> pasted straight from the Third Party Software URI: http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntudeb
[18:47] <scots> Components: intrepid main
[18:47] <stdin> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntudeb ?
[18:48] <scots> correct
[18:48] <stdin> that's not correct
[18:48] <scots> "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main"
[18:48] <jamfx> @skytheblade1: do you have any other suggestions for me how to put grub on my RAID MBR?
[18:48] <scots> copied straight from http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[18:48] <Captain_Haddock> now, it is correct...
[18:49] <scots> I apologize. I'm not terribly left-brained. I assumed you would understand that I copied it correctly, and was shortening it in chat for efficiency
[18:49] <scots> That is what I have pasted into the Third Party Software tab
[18:49] <scots> Terminal: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg --export -a 493B3065 | sudo apt-key add -
[18:50] <scots> again pasted from page
[18:50] <stdin> and then?
[18:50] <scots> "You can now update any existing KDE 4 installation to the most recent version using the Adept Updater tool in your system tray."  The adept tool never appears
[18:50] <Captain_Haddock> do an update manually if needed
[18:51] <stdin> you still haven't said where the error happened scots
[18:51] <Captain_Haddock> preferably, use sudo apt-get update (rather than adept) for IRC purposes
[18:51] <scots> When Fetching Package Lists under Sources, I see a ton of bold "FAIL" fly by before it disappears to "The operation finished successfully and no operation is currently in progress. You may now exit the program or go back to installing and removing packages."
[18:51] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: his error was in the URI
[18:51] <Captain_Haddock> now he's trying again
 you still haven't said where the error happened scots - the error is, I don't have KDE 4.2
[18:52] <scots> The Adept Updater never appears
[18:52] <scots> it does not see the packages to download
[18:52] <Captain_Haddock> try apt from the terminal
[18:52] <Captain_Haddock> sudo apt-get update
[18:52] <scots> sudo apt-get install ____________ ?
[18:53] <Captain_Haddock> (close adept)
[18:53] <scots> did - failed to fetch error at the end
[18:54] <scots> http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntudeb/dists/http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu/intrepid/binary-i386/Packages.gz
[18:54] <scots> W: Failed to fetch prefaced that
[18:54] <Captain_Haddock> er.. your URL is incorrect
[18:54] <Captain_Haddock> that's why
[18:54] <scots> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[18:54] <scots> Ugh. Cap'n, I'm copying them straight from the webpage : |
[18:55] <scots> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[18:55] <Captain_Haddock> I reckon you've pasted it twice on the same line.
[18:55] <Captain_Haddock> I might be wrong
[18:55] <scots> K. I'm in Adept
[18:55] <scots> Sources
[18:55] <scots> Edit software sources, Third Party Software tab.
[18:56] <scots> highlight and Re_m_ove the last (questionable URI) line
[18:56] <scots> A_d_d deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-experimental/ubuntu intrepid main
[18:56] <scots> Close
[18:57] <g_> my network manager just crashed and it says error getting vendor information from HAL what's a HAL?
[18:57] <scots> closed Adept, back to terminal, sudo apt-get update ended with "Reading package lists.. Done"
[18:58] <Quintasan> Hmm my Kopete is missing protocol icons, all of them: http://imagebin.ca/view/qfE3KW.html
[18:59] <Captain_Haddock> g_: Heuristically programmed algorithmic computer or Hardware abstraction layer :P
[18:59] <Captain_Haddock> or something like that
[18:59] <g_> ok cool thanks
[18:59] <scots> Capt: No update tool in the taskbar. Will Adept-Preview-Upgrade work?
[18:59] <g_> in others words I'm fugged
[18:59] <Captain_Haddock> scots: are you using kde 4.1 now?
[18:59] <scots> Captain_Haddock: yes
[19:00] <Captain_Haddock> scots: when you ran the update, did you see the ppa url?
[19:00] <scots> I can't swear I did, but I _think_ I did
[19:00] <scots> I unfortunately closed terminal
[19:00] <Captain_Haddock> you can run it again, if you like
[19:00] <Captain_Haddock> leave terminal open
[19:01] <scots> Ign http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid/main Packages
[19:01] <scots> 4 or 5 other ppa.   lines appear
[19:01] <scots> it would seem it "took"
[19:03] <Captain_Haddock> scots: do the others have a "Get" prefix as opposed to an "Ign" ?
[19:03] <scots> no "Get" on any of them, either Ign or Hit
[19:04] <Captain_Haddock> Hit is fine
[19:04] <Captain_Haddock> now type sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:05] <scots> It's grabbing about 3.2 mb
[19:05] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: needs dist-upgrade rather then upgrade
[19:05] <scots> ctrl-c & do that instead?
[19:05] <Captain_Haddock> good point
[19:05] <Captain_Haddock> scots: let it finish
[19:06] <Quintasan> How can I see from which repository is certain package?
[19:07] <scots> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade seems more likely, 147 mb
[19:08] <stdin> Quintasan: if it's a PPA, it difficult/impossible. for the others just look at apt-cache policy <package>
[19:10] <Quintasan> stdin: Thanks, I guess I will have to look manually :/
[19:11] <Captain_Haddock> Quintasan: there are a bunch of utility apps for apt which might help ...
[19:12] <jamfx> still have trouble with my grub. trying supergrubdisk now
[19:12] <Captain_Haddock> "libtaskmanager: libtaskmanager library and header files" <--- anybody know which package this resides in?
[19:13] <Captain_Haddock> it's apparently related to plasmoids
[19:14] <Captain_Haddock> FYI, I got that error while trying to compile ktorrent
[19:14] <JontheEchidna> Captain_Haddock: kdebase-workspace-dev
[19:15] <Captain_Haddock> thanks JontheEchidna!
[19:15] <JontheEchidna> you're welcome :)
[19:17] <jz> logoff
[19:18] <Quintasan> Anyone here has kopete from kubuntu-experimental?
[19:18] <Captain_Haddock> ack... my first compile experience hits another roadblock :|
[19:18] <Captain_Haddock> [  1%] Building CXX object libbtcore/CMakeFiles/btcore.dir/util/sha1hashgen.o              |          ktorrent-3.2rc1/libbtcore/util/sha1hashgen.cpp:22:20: error: QtCrypto: No such file or directory
[19:19] <Captain_Haddock> ktorrent-3.2rc1/libbtcore/util/sha1hashgen.cpp:38: error: ‘Initializer’ in namespace ‘QCA’ does not name a type
[19:19] <Captain_Haddock> anything I can do about this?
[19:20] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: install libqca2-dev
[19:21] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: you may want to do "apt-get build-dep ktorrent" before trying to compile :)
[19:21] <solifugus> Is there a tool for beautification of HTML files?
[19:21] <Captain_Haddock> ah, I had qca-dev installed instead :|
[19:21] <solifugus> I mean, I have to edit this horribly ugly HTML file.. It's just hard to read.
[19:21] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: I'll give that a shot - cheers :)
[19:22] <Captain_Haddock> solifugus: there are plenty of web developer tools / IDEs available.. one of them should do the trick
[19:22] <solifugus> Captain_Haddock: I use vi.. so I just want to code made pretty..
[19:23] <Quintasan> grrrr
[19:23] <esp1> k-buntu 9.04 a4 is still very much alpha....but i love it.
[19:23] <Quintasan> Can anyone tell me what could make icons to disappear? I had deleted my .kde dir to reconfigure everything and now Kopete lost protocol icons :/
[19:23] <Captain_Haddock> solifugus: automatic indentation etc.? I'm not sure if there's anything for vi that does it...
[19:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, why can it be that my DVD lags in VLC? Some codec i need? It's not cool! :-( Im new to linux, and want this to work! Im on Kubuntu 64 bit
[19:24] <Captain_Haddock> there might be some kind of plug-in to htmltidy or similar... perhaps you could search for that
[19:24] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: dont use VLC
[19:24] <stdin> WYSIWYG editors: KompoZer (was Nvu), Iceape Composer, Amaya - Development environments: Bluefish, Quanta+, Screem
[19:24] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: try installing mplayer-nogui and smplayer
[19:24] <Pici> solifugus: the vim-runtime package contains syntax hilighting support for vim
[19:24] <Captain_Haddock> Quintasan: I visited #kde earlier today and their topic had a warning to never delete the .kde / .kde4 directory :P
[19:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Other people say, DONT use anything else than VLC, im confused! :-(
[19:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Would like to get VLC to work, its proberly some settings
[19:25] <solifugus> Pici: yea.. I use syntax highlighting.. I found tidy.. vim also has a command to execute tidy, I am told.
[19:25] <solifugus> To do indentation and such..
[19:26] <Captain_Haddock> Sp0tKubuntu: it could be related to your graphics card not being installed properly
[19:26] <esp1> cant you change video driver in vlc?
[19:26] <Quintasan> Captain_Haddock: It stores MY configuration files, so deleting it simply deletes my config, and Kopete shouldn't store icons in my config dir :P
[19:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: How do i chek that? It seems fine?
[19:26] <esp1> that helps for mplayer, when it is acting up'
[19:26] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: glxinfo | grep direct
[19:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: Only problem, lagging in DVD, played from disk, as well as harddrive
[19:27] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: It should give direct rendering: yes
[19:27] <stdin> Quintasan: do you have kde-icons-oxygen installed?
[19:27] <Quintasan> stdin: sure I have :D
[19:27] <Captain_Haddock> Quintasan: just passing along the message - I don't understand it either.
[19:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: My english is not that good? Did'nt understand?
[19:28] <Captain_Haddock> Sp0tKubuntu: he wants you to open "Konsole" and type that in
[19:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ah
[19:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> That will do the trick?
[19:28] <Quintasan> Nope, it will tell us that your driver is installed and works :P
[19:28] <Captain_Haddock> that will tell you if your card has been installed properly and supports this and that
[19:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, 2sex
[19:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> sec*
[19:30] <stdin> Quintasan: other than the default oxygen images, kopete installs the rest of the images it uses from the "kopete" package
[19:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Direct Rendering : yes
[19:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> Q
[19:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Driver in and working?
[19:31] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe "vsync" is enabled somewhere? Where do i chek that?
[19:31] <Quintasan> stdin: I know this, I've tried removing kopete package from /var/cache/apt/archives and redownloading but it didn't help
[19:32] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: driver is working
[19:32] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: check in VLC Settings?
[19:32] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: I don't know who told you to not use mplayer :P
[19:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: What to search? Im not so much into it :-(
[19:33] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: You know how to enter settings in VLC?
[19:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: I ask to get VLC to work, not mplayer, thats why
[19:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: I know how to get in there changning them yes
[19:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe my GFX is not powerfull enought
[19:34] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: whats you graphic card?
[19:35] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: also, do you have KWin effects enabled?
[19:35] <Quintasan> brb, got to wash the dishes :<
[19:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Dont know if i have KWin effects? How do i check? I use Kubuntu 64bit, and not sure about graphic, but its a laptop, MSI PR 200, go checking it for you, the graphic
[19:36] <cjae> how do I playback .cps made from record my desktop in kwin?
[19:36] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: If you have the effects on, try turning them off, Go to System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects
[19:37] <shiro__> can anybody tell me how i can receive files with MSN in pidgin?
[19:37] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: installed libqca2-dev; still getting that crypto error. ran sudo apt-get build-dep ktorrent and it asked me to add a source URI to my sources list
[19:37] <Captain_Haddock> "ktorrent-3.2rc1/libbtcore/util/sha1hashgen.cpp:22:20: error: QtCrypto: No such file or directory" <-- this one.
[19:37] <Captain_Haddock> should I purge the make "cache" or something?
[19:38] <Captain_Haddock> I reran cmake for good measure, to no avail.
[19:38] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: does /usr/include/QtCrypto/QtCrypto exist?
[19:39] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: yep
[19:39] <shiro__> can anybody tell me how i can receive files with MSN in pidgin? when a buddy tries, i dont receive anything
[19:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Its intergrated, chipset is all i can find:
[19:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> 	
[19:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> Intel® GM965 Express Chipset
[19:40] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: rerunning cmake should find it, but maybe you just need to start over
[19:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> Whops
[19:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Have no problems i Vista, with less RAM!
[19:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: In
[19:41] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: delete the build directory and restart?
[19:41] <Captain_Haddock> Sp0tKubuntu: does it work without issues in mplayer?
[19:41] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: looks like it, though you shouldn't have to. maybe try "make clean" first, then rerun cmake
[19:41] <Captain_Haddock> righto
[19:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: Dunno, want to use VLC, i know i works, with the right settings! :-) Just have to find out
[19:42] <Captain_Haddock> Sp0tKubuntu: it will help in isolating the issue.
[19:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: Ok, i test
[19:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: BRB
[19:43] <Captain_Haddock> k
[19:43] <cnstntn> hi
[19:43] <cnstntn> can someone help me?
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: didn't work with make clean... looks more promising after nuking build directory and recreating
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> at 11% now :o
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> maybe there's a "cmake clean" as well?
[19:44] <Quintasan> cnstntn: ASK your question first, the we will see
[19:44] <Captain_Haddock> cnstntn: we won't know until you tell us what you want help with.
[19:44] <runlevelten> !flashplayer
[19:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: KMPlayer?
[19:45] <cnstntn> i've added invalide source to sources.list and now adept doesn't work
[19:45] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: cmake doesn't have a clean command, and it's easier to remove the build dir than to pick out the cmake config files
[19:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: Or just MPlayer?
[19:45] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: try mplayer-nogui and smplayer (integrates with KDE)
[19:45] <cnstntn> i'cant delete source manually because file owned by root
[19:46] <stdin> cnstntn: press Alt-F2 and enter "kdesudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" to edit the file
[19:46] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: cool.. many thanks for your insight - at 29% :)
[19:46] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: No Mplayer to find here, have to get packet
[19:46] <Captain_Haddock> !mplayer
[19:47] <tobor> Hi all, just read  man apt-get, but didn't find  any way to see when a given package was installed locally, anyone have any ideas how I can find that info
[19:47] <M> hello, anyone knows how to configure AverTV Studio 303 card to work under kubuntu?
[19:47] <stdin> tobor: you'll have a look in one of the /var/log/dpkg.log* files
[19:48] <tobor> stdin: aha!  a log file! excellent. Thenk yew!
[19:48] <M> I got kdetv, which says that my card doesn't detect power of signal and i'm unable to search for channels
[19:50] <Sp0tKubuntu> Captain_Haddock: EWWWW! Mplayer is UGLY! And dosent work very good, lagg too! And sound is REALLY poor
[19:50] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: easy
[19:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: ?
[19:51] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: I told you to install mplayer-nogui + smplayer
[19:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> AHh, via terminal?
[19:51] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: also you need to configure your video and sound output
[19:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> No, my bad
[19:51] <M> vlc is better
[19:51] <BluesKaj> M , what model tv tuner card , you may need to install drivers
[19:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> via packetmanager i suppose
[19:51] <M> AverTV Studio 303
[19:51] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: sudo apt-get install mplayer-nogui smplayer
[19:52] <BluesKaj> M checkout TVTime , it works with most cards
[19:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Thanks, what is that for?
[19:52] <Quintasan> M: no it isn't and it's not good idea to make start a flamewar
[19:52] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: mplayer gui is for gnome
[19:53] <cnstntn> question: i have kubuntu 8.10, added invalid sources with adept, now adept doesn't work. and i can't delete the source manually
[19:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Gnome is not me, therefor KDE
[19:53] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: and since you are using Kubuntu it looks like... you know what, mplayer-nogui is mplayer with no gnome gui, and smplayer is kde frontend to mplayer
[19:53] <Quintasan> cnstntn: stdin told you how to do it
[19:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Ahhh my bad! :-D
[19:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> Testing
[19:54] <Quintasan> wait a sec
[19:54] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: launch it and press ctrl+p
[19:55] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: go to Main tab
[19:55] <cnstntn> thanks. didn't noticed. sorry
[19:55] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: set Video Output to x11 and sound output to alsa
[19:55] <princedugan> I'm stuck on step 9 of <https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters/CanonPrinters/CanonPixmaIP2200> the "new printer" option is first asking Enter device URI
[19:57] <bitmonster> hi, when i try to boot kubuntu i always get exceptions such as "ata4:COMRESET failed (errno=-19) and ata4:exception Emask 0x10 SAct 0x0 SErr 0x50000 action 0xe frozen and sata_sil: cache line size not set. Driver may not function
[19:58] <bitmonster> after about 45 seconds the hdd seems to wake up but i am prompted to the command line; after pressing ctrl+d i can finally start kde
[19:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Total lag!! :-S
[19:58] <bitmonster> is there a way to fix this issue?
[19:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Wourse now
[19:58] <M> Tvtime is working, but how to use my card with mythtv?
[19:59] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: what about KWin desktop effects?
[19:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Sorry, forgot, checking
[19:59] <kaddi> evening :)
[19:59] <Quintasan> kaddi: hello
[20:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Where was that?
[20:00] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: If you have the effects on, try turning them off, Go to System Settings -> Desktop -> Desktop Effects
[20:00] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: sorry for repeating but I'm too lazy to type it :P
[20:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Found another thing i KNOW fore sure messing DVD plays up! VSYNC! Now disabled
[20:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Testing
[20:04] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: Duuno about vsync, I dont play movies from dvd often :3
[20:04]  * Captain_Haddock has successfully compiled his first package!
[20:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: And no, Kwin is not used
[20:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Not playing from disk, but from ISO file on harddrive
[20:05] <Quintasan> Captain_Haddock: nice, I was trying to fix skim but someone told me it should be removed from tree, then my motivation dropped from 100 to 1 :P
[20:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Could it be my harddrive, its only 5400 rpm?
[20:06] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: I have radeon 9550 with vsync enabled and Lords of the Dance worked flawlessly :P
[20:06] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: I doubt it
[20:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Aha, you have also DEDICATED graphic! :-P
[20:06] <Captain_Haddock> Quintasan: there were a few stumbling blocks ... but it was a pretty straightforward experience for me
[20:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Qu
[20:07] <Quintasan> Captain_Haddock: KTorrent?
[20:07] <Captain_Haddock> yep
[20:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: I havent, mine have shared RAM, and intergrated
[20:07] <Captain_Haddock> that said, I was hoping that it would replace my existing version... which it hasn't. I have two versions right now.. so I've messed up something, I reckon
[20:07] <Quintasan> Captain_Haddock: remove the old one :D
[20:08] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: you missed -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr
[20:08] <stdin> you should remove the old package first though
[20:08] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: I used cmake -DCMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX=/usr/lib/kde4/ ..
[20:08] <Captain_Haddock> I guess that was wrong :o
[20:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: How do i remove the packet you gave me for installing before? Can i remove it in Adept?
[20:08] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: it's not a plugin :)
[20:08] <Captain_Haddock> ah
[20:08] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: package* and which one? :P
[20:08] <Captain_Haddock> :)
[20:09] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: I told you to install mplayer-nogui and smplayer
[20:09] <stdin> /usr/lib is for libraries, /usr/lib/kde4 is for KDE4 plugins/KIO slaves
[20:09] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: so I should remove my compiled version and the old package as well before retrying?
[20:09] <Captain_Haddock> I see
[20:09] <beachsurfin> i'm having a problem when i boot.. i can't select to boot from a different kernel or select the memory test option
[20:09] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: if you want to remove it type in Konsole "sudo aptitude remove mplayer-nogui smplayer"
[20:09] <beachsurfin> i don't wanna edit my grub config file
[20:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: And thay can be found in Adept? And removed?
[20:09] <beachsurfin> and then boot into live cd to edit it again
[20:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: OK! Thanks alot! :-)
[20:10] <stdin> Captain_Haddock: yeah, remove ktorrent and "sudo make uninstall", then use /usr as the prefix. you shouldn't have to rebuild to get it to work (I think)
[20:10] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: no problem :D
[20:10] <Captain_Haddock> stdin: ok, let me give that a shot
[20:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Done! Thanks again! Nice to know theres alot of help to get here for a linux n00b like me
[20:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-D
[20:12] <Quintasan> Sp0tKubuntu: oh, everybody started from being a noob :P
[20:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Quintasan: Yeah, have to start somewhere :-)
[20:16] <cbwcjw> Sp0tKubuntu: Im 15, Beleive me when its hard sometimes :)
[20:17] <Quintasan> cbwcjw: lol good to know. I'm also 15 :P
[20:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> cbwcjw:  I see! :-) But like i said, have to start somewhere :-) You just started early :-)
[20:20] <cbwcjw> Sp0tKubuntu: Yea. Still though, learning now allows you to help people later, and get a better future (in my case at least)
[20:21] <TVGuy> Anyone knows what to do? My Kdetv is sending "Failed to enable streaming, errno 22", can't detect signal and any of features of my tv card. What should I do?
[20:23] <quassel190> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[20:23] <quassel190> join kubuntu-offtopic
[20:24] <thedaytripper> anyone from the Philippines here?
[20:24] <martijn81> nope
[20:24]  * martijn81 comes out of the Netherlands
[20:24]  * cbwcjw comes out of the states
[20:26] <saio> hi
[20:26] <kaddi> hi saio :)
[20:27] <cbwcjw> !hi | saio
[20:27] <saio> :)
[20:28] <saio> is some computer engineer over here?
[20:29] <saio> Next year I'll begin computer engineering and I'll bui a computer soon, with what OS should I bui it?
[20:29] <saio> *buy
[20:30] <Nomexous> Is there any way to get video preview thumbnails for KDE 4.2?
[20:32] <jals> hi, i've accidentally hidden the menu bar in k3b, how would i get that back
[20:33] <JontheEchidna> crtl +m will probably get it back
[20:36] <jals> cheers JontheEchidna that did it
[20:38] <chris-rc1> hi
[20:39] <jals> how long does it usually take you guys to rip a cd to mp3?
[20:39] <chris-rc1> i wanna enable an smb share in dolphin. i installed the kde4 settings module and samba server, but everytime i click on the config button, nothing happens. can anybody help pls?
[20:39] <jals> i'm using -V 1 setting
[20:46] <Ketrel> I'm trying to use the Lancelot and RSSNow plasmoid  (kde 4.2), but they will not keep its size when plasma restarts (either manually or reboot)
[20:53] <Lugia010719d1> Hello
[20:54] <cbwcjw> !hi Lugia010719d1
[20:54] <cbwcjw> !hi | Lugia010719d1
[20:54] <Dan9311> Hello
[20:54] <Dan9311> Could someone help?
[20:54] <cbwcjw> !ask | Dam9311
[20:54] <Captain_Haddock> !question
[20:54] <Captain_Haddock> or something like that :P
[20:54] <cbwcjw> :)
[20:55] <Dan9311> Hey guy's, I'm having problems with my audio. When I start up, i hear that weird drum beat. But when I try to watch a movie or something I can hear anything. The weird thing is that I hear the skype sounds. How can I fix it so I hear audio all the time?
[20:57] <Captain_Haddock> what do you watch your movie with?
[20:58] <Dan9311> It's acctually anything that has sound
[20:58] <Captain_Haddock> try an mp3 file with vlc or something to test
[20:58] <Dan9311> even youtube does'nt work
[20:58] <Captain_Haddock> your volume settings are all enabled?
[20:59] <Dan9311> Yes, they are to the max
[20:59] <roconnor> how do I bring up the destkop view will all the windows temporarily tiled for easy picking (if you understand what I mean)
[20:59] <MTecknology> I just started using basket and I like it, excep that I'm having some issues with the column view. I can't attach one note to another note, it just wants to stay separate.
[21:00] <Lugia010719d1> I would like to ask for help.. I am new to Linux, installed Kubuntu 8.10 a few days ago... One of my friends adviced me to update to KDE 4.2, so i did it using the help at kubuntu.org, but unfortunately it showed some problems with packages, and after restarting X KDE seems to be totally messed up. I can not see the "borders" of the windows, so i can not move them, minimize etc., i can not see the apps in the taskbar at the bottom of screen either a
[21:00] <Lugia010719d1> Please is there any way to fix it or just to take back the updates and go back to the older KDE?
[21:01] <nookie^> Lugia010719d1: welcome to the club hehe..... just joking
[21:01] <nookie^> did the same thing as you today at work
[21:02] <Lugia010719d1> and got the same problem?
[21:02] <nookie^> and had same problems.. it totaly messed up my graphic card, my kwin, proxy settings stop working, keyboard stoped to work
[21:02] <nookie^> so yeah same problems as you
[21:03] <nookie^> no adviceable to upgrade to 4.2 because i don't know what it has been done but its just destroying entire distro
[21:03] <Lugia010719d1> well, i had problems with keyboard too, but after having firefox opened and mIRC (emulated) i found that its just because the keyboard writes to another app, not to the one focused
[21:03] <Lugia010719d1> hmm and is there any way to revert last package changes? (updates, installs, etc.)
[21:04] <nookie^> i really don't know.... to shame this happened because i was looking for use it at work
[21:04] <Lugia010719d1> :(
[21:04] <nookie^> funny thing is
[21:04] <nookie^> if u install ubuntu first
[21:04] <nookie^> and then kubuntu
[21:04] <nookie^> everything will work
[21:05] <alarm> hey. i got some widgets that resist in closing. meaning. i got a picture frame widget on kubuntu 8.10 kde4.2 , and although i remove them , on the next log on or reboot they appear again and again
[21:05] <nookie^> Lugia010719d1: try that... i don't know what it's like that but kubuntu for some reason works much better i mean everything works out of box if u install ubuntu first
[21:07] <hubar> I updated my intrepid K last night to 4.2, thank god mostly it is fine.
[21:07] <Lugia010719d1> well, actually i already had all the settings, apps etc installed into the Kubuntu :( Even the Windows applications i needed in Wine
[21:08] <nookie^> Lugia010719d1: im finaly managed to get everything to work today after many ours of struggeling
[21:08] <nookie^> but the only thing that stopping me now is that i can't set proxy settings
[21:08] <nookie^> they are not taking effect
[21:08] <nookie^> and that may force me to try another distro... and i don't want that =(
[21:09] <Lugia010719d1> hmm..
[21:11] <Lugia010719d1> well i just thought if there was a list of package changes made last time, if it could be just all un-reinstalled..
[21:12] <Lugia010719d1> desktop settings say kcm_kwindesktop is missing
[21:17] <alarm> i got some widgets that resist in closing. meaning. i got a picture frame widget on kubuntu 8.10 kde4.2 , and although i remove them , on the next log on or reboot they appear again and again
[21:20] <niklauz> alarm: i've seen the same problem, after a while plasmoids would update after successive logouts/restarts but it wasn't ever clear exactly what did it
[21:20] <alarm> i cant find any solution
[21:20] <alarm> or where its written (file) to erase them so they wont start on next start up
[21:20] <alarm> its annoying
[21:23] <Lugia010719d1> so is there any log of what applications were installed/updated the last time? or a way to take the changes back?
[21:32] <Lugia010719d1> so i just asked my Linux friend what to do and he said that it is probably because the KDE was not reinstalled fully.. that i have to reinstall whole KDE
[21:35] <ian__76> how do you get kde 4.2 ?
[21:35] <ian__76> lo
[21:35] <cbwcjw> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[21:35] <ian__76> cheers. :)
[21:37] <ian__76> thanks to everyone whom has helped with k/ubuntu btw. it is a great setup :)
[21:38] <zezar> hola
[21:38] <zezar> hay alguien por ahi?
[21:38] <cbwcjw> !es | zezar
[21:38] <zezar> ok gracias
[21:39] <cbwcjw> Your welcome
[21:40] <ian__76> if k to ask another question, I have a acer laptop 9815 that has 3 speakers - alc883 HDAudio - but only left speaker is working.. any ideas. I have loaded the alsa-firmware loader
[21:40] <KDesk> hi
[21:40] <cbwcjw> Heya KDesk
[21:40] <ian__76> kdesk a irc ?
[21:41] <cbwcjw> No, kdesk es una persona.
[21:41] <ian__76> cheers thanks :)
[21:41] <cbwcjw> Oh, i thought you were the spanish dude
[21:41] <KDesk> * is not a bot hehe,
[21:41] <cbwcjw> Haha, I mixed the british guy and the spanish guy up. Sigh.
[21:42] <Lugia010719d1> What packages do i need to select to install (or reinstall) if i want to install whole KDE?
[21:42] <KDesk> cbwcjw: I speek spanish too :)
[21:42] <cbwcjw> kubuntu-desktop
[21:42] <ActionParsnip1> Lugia010719d1: kubuntu-desktop
[21:42] <CornholioTR> can kget multithread one a single file?
[21:42] <alarm> i got some widgets that resist in closing. meaning. i got a picture frame widget on kubuntu 8.10 kde4.2 , and although i remove them , on the next log on or reboot they appear again and again
[21:42] <cbwcjw> !info kubuntu-desktop
[21:42] <alarm> there must be someone who knows :P
[21:42] <cbwcjw> alarm
[21:42] <alarm> yes please
[21:42] <cbwcjw> try cntrl+shift+esc then click the thing
[21:43] <alarm> "thing" ?
[21:43] <cbwcjw> The widget, sorry, im never really specific :(
[21:43] <ActionParsnip1> alarm: make sure you are the owner and have full access to ~/.kde
[21:43] <alarm> its not that i cannot close it
[21:43] <cbwcjw> Oh. I lose then.
[21:43] <alarm> i can close it, it appears again on the next reboot
[21:44] <ActionParsnip1> alarm: when you close them the setting will need writing to the profile
[21:44] <alarm> i am. kde is in my folder
[21:44] <Lugia010719d1> thanks
[21:44] <ActionParsnip1> alarm: if thats not possible, the setting wont change
[21:44] <KDesk> alarm: delete .kde/share/config/plasma-appletsrc
[21:44] <KDesk> alarm: but you loose all the plasmoid settings
[21:45] <alarm> ActionParsnip1,  i have access on the settings. since i can change their position and the new position remains, but as i said, the keep appearing
[21:45] <ActionParsnip1> alarm: hmm strange
[21:45] <alarm> KDesk,  i dont mind. i can add them again
[21:45] <alarm> will it also reset my taskbar ?
[21:45] <cbwcjw> Anybody else have issues with the weatherapplet?
[21:45] <KDesk> alarm:  kquitapp plasma && plasma &
[21:46] <ActionParsnip1> cbwcjw: works here
[21:46] <KDesk> cbwcjw: I dont understand that applet :)
[21:46] <cbwcjw> Try adding a city
[21:46] <alarm> kquitapp plasma && plasma & whats that ? sorry did not get it
[21:46] <HappySmileMan> alarm: Will restart plasma
[21:46] <cbwcjw> KDesk: Id love to have a weather applet, but it decides to crash plasma every time I add a city.
[21:47] <alarm> ok i will try it
[21:47] <alarm> danke
[21:48] <KDesk> cbwcjw: you can try other aplets from here https://launchpad.net/~samrog131/+archive/ppa
[21:48] <Lugia010719d1> weird..  kubuntu-desktop was nto even installed
[21:49] <KDesk> cbwcjw: There is a nice weather applet, but I dont remember the name maybe plasmoid-weather-smhi or plasmoid-weatherforecast
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> oooh he didnt like that
[21:49] <cbwcjw> Lugia010719d1: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[21:49] <cbwcjw> !find plasmoid-weatherforecast
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> yeah weather widget makes the desktop go spazzy
[21:49] <ActionParsnip> !find weather
[21:49] <cbwcjw> !find plasmoid-weather
[21:50] <cbwcjw> That was easy.
[21:50] <ActionParsnip> !info plasmoid-weather
[21:50] <cbwcjw> Eeek, it might not work for 4.2 though...
[21:51] <cbwcjw> Wait, do google things work? Because: www.mxclan.org/ss.png
[21:51] <ActionParsnip> i'll live without it. I have the weather in my igoogle
[21:51] <Lugia010719d1> ok thanks.. i will try to restart now..
[21:51] <Lugia010719d1> see you
[21:51] <cbwcjw> ActionParsnip: LOL Thats kindve why I linked that, click it.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> cbwcjw: yeah, you can get rid of the most visited | getting started ... bar
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> cbwcjw: view -> toolbars -> uncheck bookmarks toolbar
[21:52] <cbwcjw> I know, but one, I reformat, A LOT. 2nd, I dont care enough. 3rd: I still dont care enough.
[21:52] <ActionParsnip> cbwcjw: give you mre browser space :)
[21:53] <cbwcjw> Ive known that for awhile, but I am a lazy person. If i cared enough, it would be gone, but if its not broke, I dont intend to fix it. I dont personalise my windows box at all.
[21:56] <ActionParsnip> cbwcjw: just a serving suggestion
[21:56] <Lugia010719d1> Ok, after installing kubuntu-desktop (which needed one more pack that was not installed), everything seems to be fine..
[21:57] <Lugia010719d1> :)
[21:57] <ActionParsnip> Lugia010719d1: its a good way to fix stuff
[21:57] <cbwcjw> ActionParsnip: Ok :) Yea, im 15, and really dont care enough about anything. Default works for me, except I pull win98 colors and themes.
[21:57] <Lugia010719d1> So it seems solution to messed up KDE after attempting to update it to 4.2 is to install kubuntu-desktop (as it was marked as not installed)
[21:57] <Lugia010719d1> :)
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> Lugia010719d1: well yeah, the meta package installs 4.1
[21:58] <Lugia010719d1> I used synaptic pack manager.. as Adepts window was broken too much and wasnt even able to find anything
[21:58] <cbwcjw> ActionParsnip: Not if you have the new repo
[21:58] <ActionParsnip> cbwcjw: true
[21:58] <Lugia010719d1> i have the new repo set
[21:59] <ActionParsnip> well it works so its cool 8-)
[21:59] <Lugia010719d1> the now workinf KDE seems to be 4.2, as it looks different
[22:00] <rd_ts> i need help with upgrading to kde4.2, I went here (http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2) and ran the commands listed.  But the last command listed doesn't work
[22:00] <rd_ts> I get a command not found error
[22:00] <Lugia010719d1> and when the KDE was broken, keyboard focus didnt work as it should, so it was impossible to use keyboard in some apps.. so i had to write down my root password to the wine-emulated mIRC i am using, right click to copy and paste it to the window that wanted the pass (lol what a weird way)
[22:01] <cbwcjw> rd_ts: run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:01] <cbwcjw> Thatll do it.
[22:01] <Lugia010719d1> BTW after restarting the PC i got a blank window named kblankscrn.kss WHat is it for?
[22:02] <rd_ts> if I run, sudo apt-get update:
[22:02] <rd_ts> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net intrepid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 60487016493B3065
[22:02] <rd_ts> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[22:02] <cbwcjw> I know, run what I sent
[22:02] <cbwcjw> Itll override.
[22:02] <ActionParsnip> rd_ts: you need the gpg key for the server
[22:03] <ActionParsnip> Lugia010719d1: is it after logon?
[22:03] <cbwcjw> rd_ts: run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:03] <rd_ts> yep I ran this cmd before that: gpg --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys 493B3065 && gpg --export -a
[22:04] <rd_ts> cbw: last time I tried that, the kdm pkg didn't install.  and the whole thing was f'ed up
[22:04] <cbwcjw> rd_ts: run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <-- Try that instead
[22:11] <ActionParsnip> how can I take a screen grab of my desktop while I'm rotating the cube please?
[22:11] <Omegist> lol so for some reason whole KDE froze when i was trying to open Kopete.
[22:12] <ignacio> hello
[22:12] <cbwcjw> !hi | ignacio
[22:12] <rd_ts> cbw:
[22:12] <rd_ts> Errors were encountered while processing:
[22:12] <rd_ts>  /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb
[22:13] <ignacio> spain
[22:13] <ignacio> hello
[22:16] <Omegist> It seems in KDE 4.2 there are not any "graphic errors" i got at the previous version with my integrated Intel graphic adapter in the Dell Studio 15 laptop
[22:16] <IceGuest_7>  : / Would anyone know why a freshly upgraded kbuntu 8.10 to KDE 4.2 would have no working keyboard and missing menu bars?
[22:19] <Omegist> IceGuest_7: Same problem as I had.. I managed to fix it by opening synaptic package manager (as Adepts window was too broken to work, but maybe in your case adept might work too), and installed the package kubuntu-desktop (in my case it was nto even instaled)
[22:20] <yaa_> whats up
[22:20] <Omegist> if keyboadr doesnt work when it asks you for the root password, you will have to paste it by mouse somehow.. find an app where keyboard works and write password there somewhere and copy with mouse
[22:21] <artvro> hola
[22:21] <yaa_> рфидф рфидф
[22:22] <yaa_> habla habla
[22:22] <artvro> ke haciendo
[22:28] <jstanley> I am trying to have a look at kubuntu on my computer. I booted it up, and there is no GUI. In vt1 I looked in xorg.conf and it says the settings in that file are now ignored. Can anyone suggest where I can setup X if not in xorg.conf?
[22:29] <yaa_> it wuz ubuntu server))
[22:30] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[22:31] <IceGuest_7> Omegist: Do you think sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop from terminal would work?
[22:31] <rickest> IceGuest_7: yes
[22:31] <yaa_> it will
[22:31] <IceGuest_7> thanks all
[22:34] <jstanley> ActionParsnip: I did that, it didn't fix anything
[22:34] <jstanley> I'm trying in 'safe graphics mode' now
[22:34] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: you need to restart the x server
[22:34] <jstanley> I did that
[22:35] <enig> is there a channel specific for DOSbox?
[22:35] <jstanley> enig: #dosbox?
[22:35] <jstanley> worth a try
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> !dosbox
[22:35] <ActionParsnip> yep 33 people in there
[22:37] <scots> Omegist: I was the no keyboard/no menu bar question 5 minutes ago - fix worked like a charm, thanks!
[22:39] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: what happens when you try to startx ?
[22:39] <enig> no one at dosbox answers... hum... :/
[22:39] <jstanley> ActionParsnip: i rebooted in safe graphics mode and it seems to be working
[22:39] <jstanley> when i tried startx before it told me a server was already running
[22:40] <jstanley> and trying to start one on vt8 told me that xterm wasn't in my path
[22:40] <jstanley> and it still didn't give me a picture
[22:40] <jstanley> i'm in safe graphics mode and a distinctly windows-98-looking gui has appeared.
[22:41] <enig> well no one answers so i'll post here too. maybe someone knows
[22:41] <enig> I hav a problem. I installed DOSbox and created a file in my home folder names DOS, then in DOSbox i used "mont c /home/<username>/DOS/"  then at DOSbox when i write dir i get an empty folder, when i copied 2 folder to /home/<username>/DOS/
[22:42] <jstanley> finally! kde 4 has loaded!
[22:42] <jstanley> at 1024x768, but at least it has loaded
[22:43] <jstanley> apparently kubuntu doesn't support my screens native resolution
[22:44] <jstanley> 1440x900 isn't on the list
[22:44] <david_edmundson> jstanley: it will be able to
[22:44] <jstanley> setting it to 1152*864 breaks the colours
[22:44] <david_edmundson> though you may have to give it some prodding in the right direction
[22:44] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: edit xorg/conf and add the resolution you want :)
[22:44] <jstanley> return to previous configuration doesn't return the colours to normal
[22:44] <jstanley> ActionParsnip: i would have done that
[22:44] <jstanley> but xorg.conf is now deprecated
[22:45] <jstanley> or so says a comment at the top of the file
[22:45] <david_edmundson> it's not deprecated per se
[22:45] <david_edmundson> sutff you put in there will work
[22:45] <david_edmundson> but theoretically it should also 'work' without it
[22:45] <jstanley> i see
[22:46] <david_edmundson> (however clearly not that well )
[22:46] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: i assume nothing ni here
[22:46] <jstanley> nothing's there
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: its used if you have strange settings needed for some stuff
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: its not unused by any means
[22:47] <jstanley> ok
[22:47] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: here's mine http://pastebin.com/f7865d23d
[22:49] <jstanley> thanks
[22:49] <jstanley> note that i don't actually have a computer with a web browser and an internet connection at the same time :P
[22:49] <jstanley> wget is my friend
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> definately :D
[22:49] <ActionParsnip> wget is sweet
[22:52] <reboot08> hi room
[22:53] <reboot08> how to get info and or tweak graphics card??
[22:53] <reboot08> ubunu hardy
[22:53] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there guys
[22:54] <cobra-the-joker> if i want to update a programm in my system ....what should i write ....i wrote "sudo apt-get update firefox "
[22:54] <cobra-the-joker> but didnt work
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> reboot08: how do you mean tweak?
[22:56] <cobra-the-joker> Any body there
[22:56] <cobra-the-joker> ?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: sudo apt-get update will install all possible updates
[22:56] <wimpies> for a 64 bit install of kubuntu is there a special image I should download ?
[22:56] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: or you could use: sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[22:57] <Blitzz|Kubuntu> How to set mouse sensitivity adjusted through xinput as default? Hardy 64-bit
[22:57] <ActionParsnip> wimpies: get the 64 bit ISO, remember to MD5SUM check it when you have downloaded it
[22:57] <reboot08> im trying to svid to tv
[22:58] <cobra-the-joker> mmmm...Ok
[22:58] <wimpies> I presume that it is better to install a 64 bit version and I also presume I can run 32 bit apps ?
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: it will download the newest deb for the app you are --reinstall installing and only update that app
[22:58] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: upgrade will upgrade everything possible
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> wimpies: depends on how much ram you have and / or what the system is for
[22:59] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip , aha ....will update all the system then
[22:59] <reboot08> how do i view what my graphics card is from terminal?
[22:59] <cobra-the-joker> thanx
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> wimpies: you can run 32bit apps with ia32libs
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> !info ia32-libs
[22:59] <ActionParsnip> it does
[23:00] <ActionParsnip> ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and ia64 systems
[23:00] <wimpies> OK. if it is a package I will find it ... thx
[23:01] <ActionParsnip> wimpies: if you have > 3Gb ram, use 64bit. If you have less and its for a desktop system i'd use 32bit
[23:02] <jstanley> Anyone know if the open source b43 driver works yet?
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> wimpies: if its for a server system i'd use 64 bit, also 64bit if you intend to encode music / video
[23:02] <jstanley> Last time I tried, it only did 11MB and was more complicated to set up than ndiswrapper
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> !broadcom
[23:02] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: thats all i know
[23:02] <jstanley> ok
[23:02] <Ketrel> I have a question about lancelot on 4.2, when I try to add an item to my desktop as a Lancelot Part, it comes up blank, anyone know anything about this?
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: i avoid broadcom like the plague
[23:03] <jstanley> i do now
[23:03] <ActionParsnip> i vote with my feet an dwallet for brands and companies that dont support linux
[23:04] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: do you mean the lancelot launcher?
[23:04] <jstanley> ActionParsnip: why do you vote for companies that _don't_ support linux? ;P
[23:05] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: i dont, hence my avoiding ati (back in the day) and broadcom
[23:05] <Ketrel> ActionParsnip: when you drag a part of the menu to the desktop, you can add it as lancelot part, or folder view
[23:05] <Ketrel> Lancelot part shows up blank
[23:06] <jstanley> ActionParsnip: it looks like it'll be easier to use ndiswrapper
[23:06] <jstanley> also, i don't understand why kubuntu comes with tons of wireless drivers, even b43 which requires tons of messing around with a firmware cutter, but it doesn't come with ndiswrapper
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> Ketrel: its not something ive used, maybe someone else who has can chip in, your info seems decent though :)
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: it does, you can apt-get it
[23:07] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: not everyone needs it so its in the optional repo
[23:08] <Ketrel> which is funny if you can't get the internet connection to access it ;)
[23:09] <jstanley> ActionParsnip: i can't; because i don't have internet
[23:09] <jstanley> as Ketrel says
[23:09] <skylite> hello all
[23:09] <jstanley> ActionParsnip: i can not get on the internet until i can get on the internet
[23:09] <jstanley> even using the b43 driver i need to get the fwcutter from ubuntu apt
[23:09] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: you can use your install cd as a repo
[23:09] <jstanley> no i can't
[23:09] <jstanley> ndiswrapper isn't in it
[23:09] <jstanley> i tried already
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: ah
[23:10] <ActionParsnip> jstanley: want the links to the debs for wgetting?
[23:10] <jstanley> but b43-fwcutter is on the cd!
[23:10] <jstanley> huzzah!
[23:10] <jstanley> i'm ok ActionParsnip
[23:10] <jstanley> but thanks
[23:11] <jstanley> actually yes please
[23:11] <jstanley> the fwcutter may come on the cd, but it needs to download the firmware from the internet
[23:11] <jstanley> how helpful
[23:11] <jstanley> in fact you needn't bother
[23:11] <jstanley> i'm going to bed now
[23:11] <jstanley> night
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> k man
[23:12] <ActionParsnip> peace
[23:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> When using VLC player, should i disable something under "Advanced" "CPU Settings" There is this field with different things im not sure if i should disable something there, but there is FPU, MMX, CPU 3D now, CPU MMX EXT, CPU SSE Support, CPU SSE2 Support?
[23:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Problem is short, DVD lagging when playing, even from harddrive, but only 5400rpm, its an MSI PR 200 laptop, Duo 2 Ghz 4Gb RAM
[23:26] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: have you installed video drivers?
[23:27] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: http://www.linlap.com/wiki/msi+pr200+gx
[23:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Afaik i have videocard driver
[23:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: How do i chek?
[23:38] <ciro> ciao a tutti
[23:39] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: glxinfo | grep Direct
[23:39] <ciro> qualcuno sa' come installare il modem sm56 in kubuuntu
[23:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: direct rendering: Yes
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: looks like you scored
[23:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Good then?
[23:40] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: looks like it, you could try running some 3d stuff
[23:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Why does my DVD lag then? :-(
[23:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Not afaik
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: have you installed the medibuntu codecs?
[23:41] <ActionParsnip> !medibuntu
[23:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Dont know? Where to see?
[23:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Got picture, god sound, just not so much sound, AND lagging picture
[23:42] <ActionParsnip> !dvd
[23:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Dont think my PC is to weak, its Duo core 2ghz, 4Gb ram, 5400 rpm disk
[23:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: If i want to find the packet in Adept, what name has it? And do i find it on the default software sources?
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: its fine
[23:43] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: you just need decent codecs
[23:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Little like in windows!
[23:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: But not so easy, should fetch codec for current source, like mp3 support
[23:44] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-370844.html
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: http://www.hildoersystems.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=62:enable-dvd-playback-in-ubuntu-in-one-command&catid=52:system-administration&Itemid=74
[23:45] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: 2nd link will enable medibuntu repo for you
[23:46] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: you dont need it in a script, just execute the commands it states in order
[23:47] <Guest68213> Hello, should be an easy one, the taskbar (panel) how can i make it autohide KDE4.1
[23:48] <__Adam__> Hello, should be an easy one, the taskbar (panel) how can i make it autohide KDE4.1
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest68075: right click panel (unlock if necessary) panel settings
[23:48] <ActionParsnip> Guest68075: then click more panel settings, its there
[23:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: Ok i look at it :-) Thanks
[23:49] <__Adam__> i dont see more panel settings
[23:49] <__Adam__> oh wrong person :P
[23:50] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: sorry wrong target, was for you
[23:51] <__Adam__> ActionParsnip:, i cant see more panel settings
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: panel options -> panel settings
[23:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> ActionParsnip: What about the Gstreamer0.10-package?
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> more panel settings is on the right in the new bar that appears above the panel
[23:51] <ActionParsnip> Sp0tKubuntu: grab it, if it helps then cool
[23:52] <__Adam__> ActionParsnip: i have add widget, lock widget, remove widget
[23:55] <__Adam__> ActionParsnip: i was able to do it on KDE3, but cant seem to do it in KDE4
[23:55] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: i have it in 4.2
[23:55] <__Adam__> ActionParsnip: i'm 4.1
[23:56] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/how-do-you-auto-hide-the-kde-4.1.1-toolbar-plasmoid-672048/
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> __Adam__: looks like its not in 4.
[23:57] <ActionParsnip> 4.1*
[23:58] <__Adam__> ActionParsnip: ahhh.... is 4.2 in the repos?
[23:58] <ActionParsnip> http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[23:59] <__Adam__> i'll wait :)
[23:59] <__Adam__> ta