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matsubaraping MootBot14:58
matsubara#startmeeting15:00
MootBotMeeting started at 09:00. The chair is matsubara.15:00
MootBotCommands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]15:00
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matsubaraWelcome to this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating the resolution of specific Launchpad bugs and issues.15:00
matsubara[TOPIC] Roll Call15:00
MootBotNew Topic:  Roll Call15:00
herbme15:00
jtvme15:00
sinzuime15:00
Ursinhame15:00
rockstarme15:00
jtvI'm standing in for henninge today, since he's on sprint.15:01
matsubarathanks jtv15:01
danilosme15:01
BjornTme15:01
matsubaraso, if any of you can't make the meeting next week, please coordinate with another teammate to cover for you and add a notice in the Apologies section in the MeetingAgenda page.15:02
matsubaraflacoste: ping15:02
intellectronicame15:02
matsubarabigjools: ping15:03
bigjoolsme15:03
flacosteme15:03
matsubaraok, let's move on, stub can join later15:04
matsubara[TOPIC] Agenda15:04
MootBotNew Topic:  Agenda15:04
matsubara * Actions from last meeting15:04
matsubara * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:04
matsubara * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:04
matsubara * DBA report (DBA contact)15:04
matsubara[TOPIC] * Actions from last meeting15:04
MootBotNew Topic:  * Actions from last meeting15:04
matsubara * bac to check with barry if there's an open bug for  OOPS-1125A1096, if not, Ursinha to file one - there was, bug 28092515:04
matsubara * intellectronica to work on bug 27956115:04
matsubara * rockstar to check OOPS-1125CEMAIL115:04
matsubara * bac to take a look at OOPS-1125A165 - bac filed bug 32279215:04
matsubara * Ursinha to check with kiko if any other rollouts will happen this week15:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 280925 in launchpad-registry "Project overview page shows obsolete series" [Low,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/28092515:04
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1125A109615:05
ubottuError: Could not parse data returned by Launchpad: The read operation timed out (https://launchpad.net/bugs/279561/+text)15:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 322792 in launchpad-bazaar "Attempting traversal past an unknown object causes an OOPS" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32279215:05
ubottuhttps://devpad.canonical.com/~jamesh/oops.cgi/1125A16515:05
Ursinhaholy crap15:05
Ursinhathat bug is timing out15:05
Ursinhaor what?15:05
Ursinhaanyway15:06
matsubaraintellectronica: any news about the api bug?15:06
Ursinhamy items were done15:06
matsubararockstar: what's up about that oops?15:06
intellectronicamatsubara: sorry, no news yet15:06
Ursinhamatsubara, he landed a fix for that15:06
matsubaraUrsinha: who's he?15:06
matsubara:-)15:06
Ursinhamatsubara, rockstar :)15:06
Ursinhasorry15:06
rockstarmatsubara, I got an RC in for that one.15:06
matsubaraok, I remember that one.15:07
matsubaraso I guess the only pending one is the api bug which is a mistery to everyone15:07
matsubarathe good news is that intellectronica found out another thing about that bug that might lead to its root cause15:08
matsubaraintellectronica: thanks for keeping us posted in the report15:08
matsubaralet's move on15:08
matsubara[TOPIC] * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:08
MootBotNew Topic:  * Oops report & Critical Bugs15:08
matsubaraso in today's oops section I'd like to talk about the timeout bugs you guys are working for the LPW15:09
matsubarahttps://dev.launchpad.net/PerformanceWeeks/February200915:09
matsubaraI'm going to review all the landings related to LPW work and add to that page.15:10
matsubaraso if you wanna help, point me to revision numbers on RF related to that work15:10
jtvmatsubara: bug 324264 is now Fix Committed.15:10
ubottuLaunchpad bug 324264 in rosetta "Speed up +translations" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/32426415:10
sinzuimatsubara: r7705 for Bug: 32532115:11
Ursinhajtv, great15:11
matsubaraintellectronica, BjornT : any news about the bug number 1 time out?15:11
sinzuimatsubara: EdwinGrubbs will land his branch today15:11
daniloswork on bug 302798 is in progress in different ways (there's a commit from 323something which disabled external suggestions to give us a better idea on how stuff is working, and henning is working on removal of obsolete translations which will reduce our DB size by ~33%)15:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 302798 in rosetta "Timeout on +translate page" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/30279815:11
BjornTmatsubara: me, intellectronica, and allenap are working on it15:12
jtvdanilos: hey, I was putting that paragraph together!15:12
BjornTmatsubara: allenap is looking at reducing the time it take to render the comments, possibly by not showing all by default15:12
danilosjtv: ok, I'll let you handle it all from now on :)15:13
BjornTmatsubara: intellectronica is working on loading the subscribers portlet in a different request15:13
danilosmatsubara: you can have full trust in jtv as far as PW is concerned :)15:13
jtv*cough*15:13
BjornTmatsubara: and i'm working on optimizing code, based off profiling information15:13
matsubaradanilos: I do! he's been very helpful with the status updates15:13
BjornTmatsubara: also, intellectronica's inital tests on dogfood were successful, reducing the time quite a lot :)15:14
matsubaragreat15:14
flacostematsubara: i'm working on bug 316881 (which isn't an OOPS per-se, but related to performance anyhow)15:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 316881 in launchpad "Page headers not suitable for HTTP caching" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/31688115:14
matsubarastub: there's an email from jono asking for some help with the +project-cloud oops, so if you could help out there, would be awesome15:15
matsubarathanks flacoste, i'll add it to the page15:15
stubI've replied on the bug. Not sure if I'm helpful though.15:15
matsubarastub: cool. thank you15:15
matsubarabigjools: news in soyuz. how about the one muharem is taking care of?15:16
matsubaras/./?/15:16
bigjoolsmatsubara: it's not going so well unfortunately15:16
bigjoolsI don't expect any progress this week15:16
matsubara[action] matsubara to add 316881 to foundations section in LPW wiki page15:16
MootBotACTION received:  matsubara to add 316881 to foundations section in LPW wiki page15:16
matsubarabigjools: why is that?15:17
bigjoolsmatsubara: the first attempt to fix it failed.  he's also been at the distro sprint this week15:17
matsubarabigjools: oh right. well, you guys are excused since the whole team is sprinting and you already landed 2(?) timeout fixes :-)15:18
bigjoolsmatsubara: thanks :)15:18
matsubaraI guess that's it from me. Ursinha, anything else?15:18
Ursinhamatsubara, no, the pending oops for soyuz I already talked with bigjools15:19
bigjoolsyeah, get edge updating again and we'll see how it went15:19
matsubaragreat. thanks everyone!15:19
matsubara[TOPIC] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:19
MootBotNew Topic:  * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm)15:19
herb- 2009-01-30 - Friday we updated lpnet, edge and the scripts servers to to r7676.15:19
herb- 2009-02-04 - Yesterday we updated codebrowse to r4315:19
herb- I feel like I'm starting to sound like a broken record... But we're still being bothered daily, often multiple times, by bug #156453 and bug #118625 which seem to be related.15:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 156453 in loggerhead "production loggerhead branch leaks memory" [Critical,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/15645315:20
herb- We also continue to run into issues associated with bug #26017115:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 118625 in launchpad-bazaar "codebrowse sometimes hangs" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/11862515:20
ubottuBug 260171 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/260171 is private15:20
flacosteherb: i herd mwhudson was working on loggerhead performance this week15:20
flacosteas part of LPW15:20
matsubarayes!15:20
sinzuiherb: There is a sprint in the planning to fix that too15:20
Ursinhayes, he is15:20
matsubaramwhudson is indeed working on that15:20
flacosteherb: and well-placed sources also told me that a sprint is being organized to fix those damn issues15:21
flacosteherb: so there is hope!15:21
herbexcellent. a fix would be huge for the LOSAs15:21
rockstarherb, mwhudson is on the verge of insanity tracking loggerhead issues down.15:21
herbthanks for all the work on that. it is much appreciated.15:22
matsubarathanks herb15:22
matsubara[TOPIC] * DBA report (stub)15:22
MootBotNew Topic:  * DBA report (stub)15:22
stubThe production dbs seem to be ticking away nicely.15:22
stubStaging db updates are being disabled by the losas for some testing, so expect a drop in timeout OOPSES.15:22
stubI've had some db patches for this cycle come through already, which is great.15:22
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matsubaraall right. thanks stub15:24
flacostewhat about the staging issues?15:24
matsubaraherb: ^15:25
flacostestaging isn't available at the moment15:25
herbit's restoring15:25
flacostebut we didn't understand why it failed?15:25
flacosteor did we?15:25
matsubaraherb: how long will it take to restore?15:25
flacosteand it's just that gmb is done with the testing and we can resume normal staging updates?15:25
herbmatsubara: should be back up within the next couple of hours.15:25
Ursinhaherb, about 10 hours ago I was talking with spm and he was unsuccessful to put staging on again15:26
herbflacoste: upgrade.py failed because there will still connections open to the staging db.  This left the DB in an indeterminate state, so we had to go through the full restore process with a new copy of the staging DB.15:27
gmbflacoste: I'm not done yet.15:27
gmbflacoste: I need staging to be up for that15:27
flacosteso this means that we are still screwed?15:27
stubThis is all useful information for read only launchpad btw.15:28
flacostewe either need to fix upgrade.py to work without a db restore15:28
flacosteor to turn off staging ugprades for the duration of gmb's test15:28
herbflacoste: upgrade.py works fine15:28
herband we'll need to turn off upgrades while gmb's testing, per stubs note above.15:29
flacostewhy were there still connections open?15:29
stubupgrade.py cannot work when there are active db connections, as upgrade requires exclusive locks on all the replicated db tables.15:29
herbflacoste: the rollout process shuts down the app servers, but there are still potentially cron scripts running, etc.15:29
flacostewhy usually is this not a problem then?15:30
stubBecause the restore, replicate and upgrade process is done as a fresh db. Once it is finished, it is swapped into place.15:31
flacosteah right!15:31
* bigjools has to run, will catch scrollback later if you need anything from me15:31
flacosteso when I said fix upgrade.py, i should have said 'fix rollout process'15:32
flacosteso I guess it's best to simply disbale upgrade for now15:32
flacostei also heard that gmb might do his tests elsewhere15:32
flacosteso that might becomes a moot issue15:32
flacostebut like stub said, very instructive for read-only launchpad15:32
gmbflacoste: Well, that's an embryonic idea right now. I still need a staging / demo machine for the forseeable future.15:33
matsubaraI want to make an action item for the fix rollout process thing15:34
matsubaranot sure who would be responsible for that15:34
matsubaralosas?15:34
herbwhoa15:35
flacostewith the help of stub probably15:35
matsubara[action] losas and stub to fix rollout process to avoid the staging restore problems15:35
MootBotACTION received:  losas and stub to fix rollout process to avoid the staging restore problems15:35
herbthere isn't anything inherently wrong with the rollout process.15:35
herbbut ok15:35
matsubarathanks everyone15:36
matsubaraanythign else before I close?15:36
flacostewell, it's currently not reliable if we don't do a DB restore it seems15:36
flacostenope15:36
matsubaraThank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Production Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs.15:36
matsubara#endmeeting15:36
MootBotMeeting finished at 09:36.15:36
Ursinhathanks matsubara15:36
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