| punkrockguy318 | do the proprietary nvidia drivers work in jaunty yet? | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| RAOF | Yes. | 00:06 |
| RAOF | They have for some time. | 00:06 |
| RAOF | Oh. Depending on what card you have, obviously(!). | 00:06 |
| punkrockguy318 | RAOF:awesome, thanks | 00:06 |
| RAOF | GeForce 6+ cards have been supported for some time. | 00:06 |
| charlie-tca | They worked on my old GeForce 2 today | 00:09 |
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| Kuaera | Are there any noted problems with network-manager or network-manager-kde lately? | 00:58 |
| maco | i cnat connect to wpa with n-m | 00:59 |
| maco | knm is fine | 00:59 |
| Kuaera | Odd. For some reason, the taskbar icon for KNM is missing for me | 00:59 |
| dtchen | are you running current 9.04? | 01:04 |
| dtchen | plasmoid-network-manager will supplant knetworkmanager eventually | 01:04 |
| dtchen | tonio has an upload of the latter that fixes some UI regressions i identified | 01:05 |
| dtchen | and - you can still invoke knetworkmanager manually | 01:05 |
| johnjohn101 | is alpha 4 going to be out tomorrow? | 01:22 |
| lamalex | Hi, I can't mount any media on jaunty, I think HAL is giving bad mount flags | 03:56 |
| lamalex | how can I debug this? | 03:56 |
| xsg | HI guys | 05:45 |
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| zniavre | hello / bonjour | 08:59 |
| zniavre | i treid few weeks ago jaunty but i got old graphic card (nvidia fx5500) and drivers for this card did not work | 09:00 |
| zniavre | is it different now ? | 09:00 |
| zniavre | tried * | 09:00 |
| fosco_ | you can get nvidia accelerated opengl with a little of xorg.conf editing | 09:14 |
| zniavre | the abi stuff? | 09:15 |
| fosco_ | yes | 09:15 |
| zniavre | this good if you can at least install the driver but i few weeks ago it was impossible i should use 173 .xx.xx | 09:16 |
| zniavre | -i | 09:16 |
| zniavre | i was wondering if today this driver is working or a least possible to install? | 09:17 |
| fosco_ | not sure, i'm using 180 with a GeForce8600gt | 09:17 |
| zniavre | ok thank you | 09:19 |
| zniavre | im downloading .iso | 09:19 |
| fosco_ | alpha4 is released today or so | 09:20 |
| fosco_ | maybe you can wait | 09:20 |
| zniavre | the daily is something really close no? | 09:21 |
| fosco_ | similar, but not the same | 09:21 |
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| zniavre | ok | 09:22 |
| zniavre | i canceled transfert and wait for a4 thank you | 09:24 |
| Koheleth | !ati | 09:32 |
| ubottu | For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto | The ATI and nVidia binary drivers may not be currently installable at the moment | 09:32 |
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| corigo3 | Is there any way to add Jaunty Jackalope repositories so I can install go-OO 3.01, and then remove them? | 12:06 |
| corigo3 | go-oo hasn't updated their binaries so I can't get a deb file from their site | 12:07 |
| mophiax | Is it true that alpha 4 is going to be released today? When can we expect it ? | 12:17 |
| fosco_ | corigo3: no, you'd better use intrepid repositories | 12:28 |
| loic-m | corigo3: there should be ppa (personnal) repositories for OO 3 on Intrepid, I can't remember but if you google it you can find them | 12:47 |
| loic-m | corigo3: something like that in synaptic (or edit /etc/apt/sources.list) : deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ubuntu intrepid main | 12:47 |
| loic-m | no guaranty, I didn't test them | 12:47 |
| gnomefreak | its default in jaunty | 12:49 |
| tgpraveen | is alpha 4 out? | 13:10 |
| tgpraveen | ?? | 13:14 |
| fosco_ | not yet | 13:22 |
| tgpraveen | fosco_: ok any idea what new features are expected? | 13:25 |
| fosco_ | no, i'm just waiting to test | 13:25 |
| gnomefreak | tgpraveen: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha3 | 13:39 |
| gnomefreak | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview is also good place | 13:40 |
| tgpraveen | gnomefreak: no man I just wanted to know what is new in alpha 4 as compared to alpha 3? | 13:42 |
| gnomefreak | tgpraveen: last link i gave you | 13:42 |
| tgpraveen | oh ok.thx will check it out | 13:43 |
| gnomefreak | tgpraveen: subscribe to ubuntu-devel-announce@lists.ubuntu.com and you will get announcements | 13:45 |
| tgpraveen | to people who are using the alpha 4 as there are no screenshots provided I wanted to ask whether the notifications look like the animation seen on mark's blog | 13:45 |
| tgpraveen | gnomefreak: good idea I might do tha | 13:45 |
| tgpraveen | that | 13:45 |
| fosco_ | tgpraveen: no | 13:45 |
| tgpraveen | :-( | 13:45 |
| tgpraveen | oh well maybe next time | 13:45 |
| tgpraveen | next release | 13:46 |
| fosco_ | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_rgO8m__aY7g/SXJH3xzoZMI/AAAAAAAABQk/wbot6Ak-Ec4/s400/notificaciones_jaunty.jpg <- they look like this | 13:46 |
| binarymutant | has ruby been uploaded to the Jaunty repos? | 13:47 |
| gnomefreak | Installed: 4.2 | 13:48 |
| gnomefreak | http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/main Packages | 13:48 |
| tgpraveen | fosco_: man that is really looking bad as compared to the mockup animation it just looks like the one which we currently have | 13:51 |
| tgpraveen | hope they don't leave it as it is till the end | 13:51 |
| fosco_ | yes, dveleopment is in progress | 13:52 |
| fosco_ | take a look here if you want more info http://www.markshuttleworth.com/ | 13:52 |
| tgpraveen | fosco_: yeah already seen that | 13:59 |
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| gourgi1 | is alpha 4 out ? | 14:05 |
| tgpraveen | gourgi1: yeas | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | I found this comment and marks reply to it intresting | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | it tells us a lot aabout what to expect in the final version | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | Actions and ability to close the notification are useful features. Situations where actions would be helpful: | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | -Receive an email notification, click to read it. | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | -IM chat invitation or voip call, click to converse. | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | -Someone connects via bluetooth, click to browse files. | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | -Network connection goes down, click for help resolving it Most of these actions could be omitted from the notification and put in a tray icon menu, but is that really intuitive? I think most users (particularly those form a windows background) would tend to click on the notification before looking under a tray icon menu. | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | I agree that these notifications should automatically close after a given period of time. However removing the functionality to dismiss and react to notifications is just dumbing things down. Basically leave things the way they are and I’ll be happy. Mark Shuttleworth says: Thank you for this list of use cases, it’s very useful! At the moment, we plan to make *all* of those action possible through the panel, with a linkage from notifications to the | 14:07 |
| tgpraveen | another intresting comment was where mark has agreed that due to strong feedback all notification will be logged | 14:10 |
| tgpraveen | so that people can review it ltr | 14:10 |
| gourgi1 | tgpraveen is it really A4 released ? http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/9.04/ ??? | 14:14 |
| tgpraveen | : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview | 14:14 |
| gourgi1 | tgpraveen ok ty | 14:15 |
| tgpraveen | welcome | 14:16 |
| fosco_ | not available for download | 14:16 |
| charlie-tca | No official release yet | 14:16 |
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| Oli`` | Not sure if it's a JJ thing but I can't appear to move my panels =\ | 14:19 |
| avis | can i test jaunty from intrepid on a laptop while connected to the internet ? i tried sudo apt-get dist-upgrade, didn't seem to do much. do i need to update /etc/apt/sources.list ? | 14:19 |
| Oli`` | Which is a bit of a problem for me as I've now got two stacked up from upgrading (twinview turning into clone-mode) | 14:19 |
| gourgi1 | A4 known issues are the same since A3 plus some bugs between A3 and A4 ! | 14:19 |
| fosco_ | Oli``: right clic on the panel and read the options carefully | 14:20 |
| Oli`` | avis: run sudo update-manager -c -d (if you're really sure) | 14:20 |
| avis | thanks Oli`` | 14:20 |
| Oli`` | fosco_: ??? | 14:20 |
| * gourgi1 already in jaunty but needs to test ext4+encrypt from the scratch | 14:21 | |
| Oli`` | fosco_: there's nothing new there (Add to panel, Properties, Delete this panel | New panel | Help, About panels) | 14:21 |
| gnomefreak | you dont need to use -c anymore | 14:26 |
| gnomefreak | it is assumed by default | 14:26 |
| Oli`` | Oh right... I've just been using it from habit | 14:26 |
| Oli`` | fosco_: played around with the properties - for future reference, unchecking expand gives it a handle you can use to drag it where you like. | 14:28 |
| cwillu | Oli``, properties also provides a direct means to change which edge it's on | 14:39 |
| Oli`` | cwillu: I'm talking screens, not orientations | 14:40 |
| Oli`` | ie twinview | 14:40 |
| nikolam_jaunty | where we set resolution in xubuntu jaunty? | 14:40 |
| cwillu | Oli``, ... at which point, you can drag it to the screen you want | 14:40 |
| cwillu | nikolam_jaunty, preferences | screen resolution | 14:40 |
| Oli`` | cwillu: that was my point - dragging isn't working for me | 14:40 |
| cwillu | Oli``, wasn't locked down was it? | 14:41 |
| cwillu | ("allow this panel to be moved") | 14:41 |
| nikolam_jaunty | cwillu, there is no preferences | 14:41 |
| Oli`` | cwillu: no | 14:41 |
| cwillu | nikolam_jaunty, system | preferences? | 14:41 |
| cwillu | Oli``, odd | 14:42 |
| nikolam_jaunty | cwillu, no system preferences here | 14:42 |
| Oli`` | indeed | 14:42 |
| cwillu | oh, xubuntu | 14:42 |
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| tristil | Is Alpha 4 going to be released today? | 15:23 |
| charlie-tca | Yes, in a few hours | 15:24 |
| fosco_ | can hardly wait to test :) | 15:24 |
| rainmanp7 | . | 15:32 |
| rainmanp7 | Goodmorning | 15:32 |
| rainmanp7 | Does anyone know if there is a way to make or test this new jaunty on BTRFS I would love to know a way I could actually test it as a defualt system format instead of ext4 ? | 15:33 |
| rainmanp7 | I have a test hard drive I could run it on :) I jsut want to see a distro thing with it running any ideas ? | 15:34 |
| mifritscher | hi | 15:40 |
| mifritscher | yust a few suggestions: | 15:40 |
| mifritscher | -add more controls for compizz in "Erscheinungsbild" (how its thats called in english?) - like diesabled at all, animations, shadows, extenedd alt-tab etc | 15:42 |
| mifritscher | -add in the alt-tab the possibitily to choose programms directly with 0...9 or with the arrows (while alt is pressed | 15:42 |
| mifritscher | in the voume control I miss the classic volume manager with the cannels, which is usefull for e.g. redirecting the microphone to the output | 15:43 |
| mifritscher | (an additons would to ease routing between differnt soundcards (e.g. normal soundcard, bluetooth headset, tv tuner etc.) | 15:43 |
| mifritscher | but the 9.04 works quite stable :-) | 15:44 |
| mifritscher | but one thing, which I had also on 8.10: if one window is set to always ase foreground, also new windows are made in the background, even if the foreground window is minimized atm | 15:45 |
| mifritscher | an, and an extended programm für touchpad, trackstick + tablet would be nice, can't find anything in the normal mousesettings | 15:47 |
| mifritscher | I even had to manually reactivate the tablet settings in the xorg.conf) | 15:47 |
| tgpraveen | tristil: it might actually probably take some more time asa they are know for releaseing everything pretty late in the day. | 15:53 |
| artfwo | not for long, I beleive... alpha-3 just disappeared from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/ | 15:55 |
| tgpraveen | artfwo: yay! | 15:55 |
| rainmanp7 | artfwo I have a copy of alpha 3 | 16:02 |
| artfwo | that's cool, but I'd like to start with jaunty from alpha4 | 16:03 |
| artfwo | and also ext4 :) | 16:03 |
| rainmanp7 | I'm using ext4 now :) | 16:03 |
| artfwo | so how is it? | 16:03 |
| rainmanp7 | Very dam nice | 16:04 |
| artfwo | is it selectable in ubiquity? | 16:04 |
| rainmanp7 | I really want to see the diferance though between btrfs stuff and ext4 ,but the boot times and file speed is way differn't and fast in ext4 | 16:04 |
| rainmanp7 | ibex took me 25-30 minutes for install on ext3 and now it takes me only 10-15 minutes to hit desktop if they include that realtime switch thing I'm sure it will be more like 6-10 minutes install | 16:06 |
| rainmanp7 | my boot up times are allot less with etx4 | 16:07 |
| rainmanp7 | like 21-22 seconds | 16:07 |
| artfwo | an operating system installable in 10 minutes! | 16:08 |
| tgpraveen | rainmanp7: kindly share you are system specs and also | 16:08 |
| tgpraveen | boot time with ext3 | 16:08 |
| tgpraveen | many games take mopre time in windows to isntall | 16:09 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen I'm running on a 40 gig Western Digital PATA with Pentium 3.4 dual core and 2.5gig ram on asus motherboard I have other SATA drives i could hook up :) and spare IDE Drives ;) | 16:11 |
| Gnimsh | hi there | 16:11 |
| Gnimsh | Just wondering when alpha 4 of jaunty will be released | 16:12 |
| Gnimsh | the schedule said today but nothing's up yet | 16:12 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen my stuff is like 4-5 years old though | 16:12 |
| Gnimsh | at least afaik | 16:12 |
| tgpraveen | rainmanp7: I am slightly confused did you say you have pentium 3? | 16:12 |
| charlie-tca | Gnimsh: should be later today | 16:12 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen Pentium 4 at 3.4 Gigherz | 16:13 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen not the new ones in the store | 16:13 |
| Gnimsh | Do you think it will be stable enough for use as my main OS, just browing internet, email, word processing, etc? | 16:13 |
| charlie-tca | I think it will be an alpha release, which means you have as good a chance for it to break as not break | 16:14 |
| tgpraveen | rainmanp7: oh ok then 20 secs is pretty decent . I have a p4 2.4 ghz machine and on 8.10 I have like 1 min 45 secs boot time though I have 2 screenlets set up to boot | 16:14 |
| tgpraveen | it is just too high | 16:14 |
| charlie-tca | If you have things you can not aford downtime for, it is bad | 16:14 |
| Gnimsh | ok | 16:14 |
| yao_ziyuan | can i use kpackagekit in kubuntu 8.10? | 16:14 |
| rainmanp7 | Not sure I have been using it for days like maybe 9 and the only problem i have is firefox crashing. yeah look at things you can't afford to have downtime for | 16:15 |
| Gnimsh | I'm anxious to try a new version, I suppose, but my hardware that works in 8.04 (just a webcam) does not work in 8.10, and so I want to see if it will be detected in 9.04 | 16:15 |
| charlie-tca | Why not try the livecd, then | 16:15 |
| Gnimsh | I don't think the liveCD of any version has ever picked up my webcam | 16:16 |
| Gnimsh | I'll have to look with 8.04 | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | Look with Jaunty instead | 16:16 |
| charlie-tca | yao_ziyuan: You should ask in #kubuntu | 16:16 |
| rainmanp7 | I know with the new updates on Jaunty my umm Cmedia headset and Creative sound card got picked up but not in 8.10 | 16:16 |
| rainmanp7 | Gnimsh I love burning all sorts of live cd's and trying to find the one that picks up my hardware :) | 16:18 |
| tgpraveen | rainmanp7: did you modify you are system or anything to get the 20 sec boot time in jaunty? or is this out of the box | 16:18 |
| Gnimsh | lol | 16:18 |
| tgpraveen | also what was you are boot time in 8.10 | 16:18 |
| Gnimsh | I've used fedora 10 and opensuse and neither of them pick up all my hardware either | 16:18 |
| Gnimsh | I've been considering farsight | 16:18 |
| Gnimsh | oops | 16:18 |
| Gnimsh | foresight* | 16:18 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen yes I Messed with 2 settings 1 that got me there was the realtime switch in fstab and there is another setting in the scuzi file where you put a G option for better throughput but I like the realtime allot better for respose time of desktop | 16:19 |
| charlie-tca | Gnimsh: that's why you should try Jaunty alpha4 livecd when it releases | 16:20 |
| Gnimsh | what's that, to make sure it picks up everything? | 16:21 |
| Gnimsh | why,e ven* | 16:22 |
| Gnimsh | even... | 16:22 |
| charlie-tca | To see if it detects your webcam, when nothing else does. | 16:22 |
| Gnimsh | ah ok | 16:22 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen my fstab looks like this UUID=a61b264c-ea37-4335-a1bf-fb6cfc7017dd / ext4 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1 | 16:22 |
| Gnimsh | I'll give it a try | 16:22 |
| tgpraveen | rainmanp7: you think maybe this options would be made default for jaunty | 16:24 |
| tgpraveen | that realtime sounds good | 16:24 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen Yes! | 16:24 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen that one thing made a hell of a differance | 16:24 |
| tgpraveen | rainmanp7: really that is going to be default? is there a dev discussion going on for this? | 16:25 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen Actually they need to include that on the install and I would whipe crap out just to see how it worked from scratch hehe | 16:25 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen I wish they would include it as default I'm not sure where the dev channel for asking somthing like that would be | 16:26 |
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| tgpraveen | rainmanp7: you should file this in launchpad as a bug and maybe also brainstorm. sounds like a nice idea | 16:28 |
| avis | i am having issues with jaunty not powering off, after a recent bios update to my laptop, and was wanting to report that bug to launchpad, i'm unsure as to what package in question, i'd report, or even, how i'd specifically address it to the developement of jaunty? i believe "Ubuntu" will work and i can put Jaunty in the topic. sorry about all these questions. | 16:29 |
| avis | that would be -- what package to report, if computer doesn't shutdown, it goes through the whole cycle process again, after shutdown, with most recent kernel. i'm unsure what package i should target. | 16:31 |
| rainmanp7 | tgpraveen what's the launchpad um weblink ? or the Bug Brainstorm link ? all i know is that that switch it shaved off 4-5 seconds on boot time and made stuff more responsive and faster loading of programs :) | 16:32 |
| rainmanp7 | found the site stuff jsut need to make login information | 16:34 |
| rainmanp7 | wow these spam people are getting real good with the subject lines LOL | 16:38 |
| rainmanp7 | man yahoo email is somthing else | 16:39 |
| charlie-tca | avis: Report it against "linux" which is the kernel, it controls most of that now. | 16:45 |
| avis | charlie-tca, ok got it. and how might i address the bug report so it would go to the Jaunty developers? i believe by default it goes to Ubuntu, and if try to get any more specific than that, it wont allow me to write a bug report at all. so i did one for "Ubuntu" for package linux, with all the related logs, but no one has yet replied, so i'm thinking, it needs to get to the Jaunty team | 16:47 |
| charlie-tca | They will see it. What is the bug number of them | 16:48 |
| charlie-tca | It is usually that the developers are a bit busy, and pick the most important bugs(to them) to try and fix first. | 16:49 |
| avis | looking for it. | 16:49 |
| avis | ooh i see. ok. | 16:50 |
| avis | my bug report seems to have disappeared from launchpad :( | 16:53 |
| avis | here it is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/323715 | 16:54 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 323715 in linux "powerdown after shutdown does not work jaunty emachines d620 laptop 1.03 bios" [Undecided,New] | 16:54 |
| avis | its actually just a week old, so, yes. its relatively new. it wasn't easy to find on launchpad though | 16:55 |
| artfwo | guess alpha-4 starts to appear on http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/ | 17:01 |
| charlie-tca | Got it. Give me a day or so to see if I can get it triaged. | 17:06 |
| tgpraveen | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-4/ | 17:08 |
| tgpraveen | alpha 4 is out | 17:08 |
| tgpraveen | any one got a link to page which has its new features | 17:08 |
| tgpraveen | you knw release notes | 17:08 |
| artfwo | tgpraveen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/TechnicalOverview | 17:09 |
| artfwo | still no desktop-i386 | 17:09 |
| maxb | Hmm. I booted Intrepid sharing a homedir that I've touched with Jaunty. All my gnome-terminals now insist on being zero characters wide | 17:09 |
| ethana2 | GNOME 2.25.90 in Ubuntu 9.04a4? | 17:12 |
| charlie-tca | Alpha4 just released | 17:12 |
| ethana2 | charlie-tca: seriously? | 17:12 |
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| ethana2 | ooh! | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | yeah, message came in to ubuntu-devel-announce | 17:13 |
| ethana2 | charlie-tca: does it have working 3D stuff? | 17:13 |
| ethana2 | I dual boot 8.04.1 and 8.10, I'm looking to install 9.04 over 8.04 since my major 8.10 bugs got fixed | 17:13 |
| charlie-tca | I don't know. I just use it as installed. | 17:13 |
| tgpraveen | does anyone know if bluetooth bugs in 8.10 which were not there in 8.04 got sorted in 9.04 or not? | 17:17 |
| rainmanp7 | Does anyone know what version of the Alpha your actually running ? | 17:20 |
| Pici | rainmanp7: An alpha is just a snapshot of the packages at a certain point, there really isn't anything else that defines it as being Alpha 3 or 4 or whatever. | 17:22 |
| rainmanp7 | Pici ahhh ok | 17:22 |
| rainmanp7 | Pici yeah that's what I'm looking for a certin predefined snapshot aka wich snapshot am I running on :) | 17:23 |
| Pici | rainmanp7: There isn't anything that will say it. If you've been updating, then you're on alpha 4 now. | 17:24 |
| Pici | !final | 17:24 |
| ubottu | If you installed a Alpha/Beta/RC version of Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) and have been keeping it up to date, then you are already running the latest version of Intrepid. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a console. | 17:24 |
| rainmanp7 | Pici k thanx | 17:24 |
| Pici | !final =~ s/Intrepid/Jaunty/ | 17:24 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that Pici | 17:24 |
| askand | Hello, I tried latest alpha on three different computers and have the same problem with internet, I get connected but internet does not work...any idea on how to check what could be wrong? | 17:24 |
| rainmanp7 | askand um the get connected isn't that the same as being connected to the internet ? please explain | 17:25 |
| askand | I am connected to the router with wireless and can acess its settingpage but not the internet | 17:27 |
| rainmanp7 | I know if anything is connected to the Internet that there are 3 things that keep it from seeing anything = 1: The DNS 2: The DHCP getting the Gateway 3: Information of the 3 = Ip address/Dns/Dhcp automatic delivering the infromation | 17:28 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Check the default route on the PC using "ip route" - it should be "via" the IP of the gateway/router | 17:29 |
| ethana2 | someone fix ubottu... | 17:29 |
| rainmanp7 | Ok so pop you can see router :) that's connection. tracert and pinging a site will say if you can get out past the router. The router needs to supply the IP/DNS/Gateway and the Software on the Machine ahs to read these settings | 17:29 |
| askand | rainmanp7: yes and we can rule out dns since I can not visit ipadresse | 17:29 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Next, check whether you can ping an IP address on the Internet. e.g., one of my servers: "ping 67.18.187.60" | 17:29 |
| askand | ping www.google.com gives: connect: network is unreachable | 17:30 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Then, test DNS using "dig www.iana.org" | 17:30 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: That gives output, exciting name you have btw | 17:31 |
| IntuitiveNipple | dig DNS gives output? does it report an IP address in the ANSWER section? if that section is empty, it failed | 17:32 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: yes 208.77.188.193 | 17:32 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Also, check whether the interface has got a DHCP lease: "ls /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.*.leases" | 17:32 |
| IntuitiveNipple | askand: That's good then! | 17:32 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Does the ping to my server work too? | 17:33 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: No, it does not; connect: network is unreachable | 17:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | hmmm | 17:33 |
| IntuitiveNipple | try: "tracepath 67.18.187.60" | 17:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | If that starts timing out, you'll see at which point the problem is | 17:34 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: send dailed Resume: pmtu 65535 | 17:34 |
| askand | failed* | 17:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | 65535????? | 17:34 |
| IntuitiveNipple | eeeek! | 17:34 |
| rainmanp7 | IntuitiveNipple very good advice I like you hehe :) | 17:35 |
| dethstar | anyone know to go about installing the drivers for a Radeon HD 3450? tried envyng.. with no luck. | 17:35 |
| askand | :O | 17:35 |
| IntuitiveNipple | askand: How many interfaces are active? and what are their names (eth0, wlan0 ?) | 17:35 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: lo wlan0 wmaster0-00 | 17:35 |
| IntuitiveNipple | haha | 17:36 |
| IntuitiveNipple | wmaster0-00 ? | 17:36 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: yea :O | 17:36 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: It is in ifconfig | 17:36 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: Is it bad? :P | 17:36 |
| IntuitiveNipple | hmmm... the -00 suggests the original interface was already taken... could be a symptom | 17:37 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ok, what MTU does "ifconfig wlan0 | grep MTU" report ? | 17:37 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Also, can you show the contents from "cat /etc/resolv.conf" | 17:38 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: 1500 | 17:38 |
| IntuitiveNipple | askand: OK, that is correct. | 17:38 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: Good, exciting its like a treasurehunt | 17:39 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Also, please post to http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/ the results of "cat /var/lib/dhcp3/dhclient.wlan0.leases" | 17:40 |
| IntuitiveNipple | (and tell me the pastebin URL you've used) | 17:40 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: there is no sucj files | 17:41 |
| askand | dhclient.leases is the only one | 17:41 |
| IntuitiveNipple | really | 17:41 |
| IntuitiveNipple | hmmm, are you using statically configured settings? | 17:41 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: nope dhcp | 17:41 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ok... pastebin the contents of the dhcpd.leases file then :) | 17:42 |
| askand | oh wait iwconfig shows another interface? | 17:42 |
| dethstar | anyone have a clue about the Radeon HD 3450? | 17:42 |
| askand | pan0? | 17:42 |
| IntuitiveNipple | pan0 is the Bluetooth PAN | 17:42 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: the leases file is empty | 17:43 |
| askand | :o | 17:43 |
| IntuitiveNipple | askand: hehehe yeah it would be... I asked for the wrong one :p | 17:44 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Hmmm... lets try something else... routing table | 17:45 |
| IntuitiveNipple | pastebin the result of "ip route" please | 17:45 |
| askand | hm I have troubles getting to pastebin.. | 17:46 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Are there any other PCs on the network that can access the Internet OK, or is there only that one PC right now? | 17:47 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: there is this PC that is on the same network | 17:47 |
| askand | but trying to acess it gives me a dbuserror | 17:48 |
| IntuitiveNipple | okay... so we can't prove whether there is a fault with the router if there are no other PCs then | 17:48 |
| IntuitiveNipple | If I were you I'd try restarting the PC before trying to diagnose this any further | 17:48 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: yes I am connected to the router with this PC | 17:48 |
| IntuitiveNipple | It sounds like the system is in an inconsistent state | 17:48 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: ok I try that | 17:50 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: ok I am up and running agan | 17:53 |
| IntuitiveNipple | You never disappeared! | 17:54 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: No, should I restart this computer? :O It works fine? | 17:54 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Huh? I thought you were going to restart? Didn't you do that? If not, what did you do? | 17:55 |
| askand | Hm I have two computers, one with 8.10 (reffered to as this PC :)) that works fine and one laptop with alpha 4 that does not work | 17:55 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ahhh.... I thought when I asked earlier you said there was only one PC on the LAN | 17:56 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: ah ok, no :) | 17:56 |
| IntuitiveNipple | OK, so, you're connected to IRC via Intrepid on PC, and having problems with Jaunty Laptop? | 17:56 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ok... lets go back a bit then. | 17:57 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: thats right, sorry about that :) | 17:57 |
| IntuitiveNipple | When I asked for results of commands, you were typing them on the laptop and then reporting back here from the 'good' PC? | 17:57 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: yep | 17:57 |
| IntuitiveNipple | okay... so, to recap, the Laptop has been allocated an IP address by DHCP, and it can connect to the router OK, but not the Internet? | 17:58 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: that right | 17:58 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Can you connect to the laptop from the PC using ssh? | 17:58 |
| askand | I can not install ssh on the laptop im afraid | 17:59 |
| Alexia_Death | askand: It should be available on the cd... | 17:59 |
| Alexia_Death | I hope it is at least. | 17:59 |
| IntuitiveNipple | sshd shold already be installed | 17:59 |
| IntuitiveNipple | s/shold/should/ | 18:00 |
| Alexia_Death | IntuitiveNipple: I would not be so sure... I havent done a clean install in ages but I dont think it is... | 18:00 |
| askand | ssh: connect to host ubuntu port 22: Connection refused on the 'good pc' | 18:00 |
| IntuitiveNipple | 'refused' is good :) | 18:00 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Alexia_Death: Hmm, it's so long since I did that I'm not sure either | 18:01 |
| askand | good with refused? | 18:02 |
| IntuitiveNipple | askand: was that an attempt *from* PC to laptop? | 18:03 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: yes | 18:03 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: Ah but the other way around works | 18:04 |
| IntuitiveNipple | OK... just to be sure, on the laptop check if the package is installed: "dpkg-query -l '*ssh*' " and look for openssh-server being installed | 18:04 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: Now I can communicate between them, what should I pastebin? | 18:05 |
| IntuitiveNipple | askand: If you have the connection from the laptop to the PC it doesn't make things much easier, you'd need to paste stuff into files on PC and then open them on PC to paste to pastebin :) | 18:06 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: yes but it works | 18:06 |
| askand | :) | 18:06 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I tell you what... download the Jauntry openssh-server package to PC, then copy it across to laptop using sshfs or scp | 18:07 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Is the laptop Jaunty 32-bit or 64-bit | 18:08 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: 32bit | 18:08 |
| askand | I have forgotten how to copy over ssh | 18:08 |
| askand | scp? | 18:08 |
| IntuitiveNipple | on PC do: "wget http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openssh/openssh-server_5.1p1-5ubuntu1_i386.deb" | 18:09 |
| askand | done | 18:09 |
| IntuitiveNipple | make sure it is in your home directory to keep things simple | 18:09 |
| askand | yep | 18:09 |
| * Alexia_Death just uses either nautilus or dolphin to open the sftp connection ;) | 18:10 | |
| IntuitiveNipple | There you go askand... on the laptop use nautilus :p | 18:10 |
| IntuitiveNipple | copy that .deb file over to laptop, then install it using "sudo dpk -i <filename>" | 18:11 |
| IntuitiveNipple | (or double-click it to load in gdebi and then install) | 18:11 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: ok done :) | 18:12 |
| askand | and Im in on the PC | 18:12 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ok, so sshd will have been started on laptop when it was installed, so try connecting to laptop from PC with ssh | 18:12 |
| IntuitiveNipple | oh... "in on" - I misread that | 18:13 |
| IntuitiveNipple | good... so, now you can more easily grab output | 18:13 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Let's start with "ifconfig -s" | 18:13 |
| askand | http://pastebin.com/m712c1ca3 | 18:14 |
| IntuitiveNipple | okay, now "ifconfig wlan0" | 18:15 |
| askand | http://pastebin.com/mb2d9c24 | 18:15 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Now "ip route" | 18:16 |
| fosco__ | http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/jaunty/alpha-4/ | 18:18 |
| fosco__ | ready to go | 18:18 |
| askand | http://pastebin.com/m23e62313 | 18:19 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: Perhaps it would also be interesting to know that I get the same problem on every computer running alpha 4 so it is not a singe computer that is wrong | 18:21 |
| IntuitiveNipple | there's your problem... no default route | 18:21 |
| IntuitiveNipple | alpha-3 dont' you mean? :p | 18:21 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: No 4 was released today :D | 18:22 |
| IntuitiveNipple | what's the IP of the gateway? | 18:23 |
| IntuitiveNipple | (you can check on PC using the same command to get the "default via" entry) | 18:24 |
| askand | gateway= boradcastadress? | 18:24 |
| askand | 192.168.0.254 | 18:24 |
| IntuitiveNipple | do "sudo ip route add default via 192.168.0.254" | 18:25 |
| askand | default via 192.168.0.254 dev wlan0 proto static | 18:25 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: yay! internet is back! thanks man! | 18:25 |
| askand | should I file a bug? | 18:25 |
| askand | how could this happend? | 18:26 |
| IntuitiveNipple | I didn't get that problem with the live-CDs - but then I've not been able to get past the Jaunty installer yet so don't know if it'll be the OK once installed. | 18:26 |
| IntuitiveNipple | First, search the log files for clues as to why dhclient (via NetworkManager) seems to be losing the default route | 18:27 |
| IntuitiveNipple | do: "grep -irn dhcp /var/log/* > dhcp.log" | 18:27 |
| IntuitiveNipple | then read through dhcp.log (maybe use 'less': "less dhcp.log" and page through looking for where the lease is being requested and issued, and then use the timestamps of those entries to look for other entries around the same time and just after that might give a clue | 18:29 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Also, check for any new entries in the those dhcp lease files at /var/lib/dhcp3/ | 18:31 |
| BUGabundo | I'm one of those afected by the HUGE DPI (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/HugeFonts). against what package should I file it ? | 18:31 |
| charlie-tca | the bug already filed? | 18:33 |
| BUGabundo | I don't know! | 18:33 |
| BUGabundo | just checking before running apport on it | 18:34 |
| charlie-tca | you can use xorg | 18:34 |
| BUGabundo | I get a | 18:34 |
| BUGabundo | xdpyinfo | grep dots resolution: 112x112 dots per inch | 18:34 |
| BUGabundo | let me check my apt-changes | 18:34 |
| BUGabundo | I think it mentioned a LP bug | 18:34 |
| BUGabundo | nope | 18:35 |
| BUGabundo | nothing there | 18:35 |
| charlie-tca | I would think "xorg" will work. Someone will fix the package if it is wrong | 18:35 |
| BUGabundo | filing new, and lookgin for dupes | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | At least then Bryce should see it | 18:36 |
| BUGabundo | charlie-tca: I aint sure if it is X or gdm-session | 18:36 |
| maxb | I have one somewhat erroneously filed under xserver-xorg-vidio-intel | 18:36 |
| charlie-tca | X if I recall correctly | 18:36 |
| maxb | LP 324518 | 18:37 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 324518 in xserver-xorg-video-intel "Overly large fonts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/324518 | 18:37 |
| BUGabundo | what the heck is this ? | 18:37 |
| BUGabundo | .........................................Warning: Could not load keyboard geometry for :0 | 18:37 |
| BUGabundo | BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation) | 18:37 |
| BUGabundo | Resulting keymap file will not describe geometry | 18:37 |
| BUGabundo | apport bug or LP edge load bugs? | 18:38 |
| BUGabundo | filed under bug 325868 | 18:41 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 325868 in xorg "huge fonts" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/325868 | 18:41 |
| BUGabundo | now to retest apport | 18:41 |
| BUGabundo | can't reproduce it | 18:42 |
| Tukon | anyone not getting mouse support on kubuntu alpha 4 installer | 18:45 |
| Tukon | boots up and mouse is not working on my asus laptop | 18:45 |
| zniavre | !vlc | 18:49 |
| ubottu | Audio (Ogg, MP3...) players: Audacious, Banshee, Beep Media Player, Listen, Quod Libet, Rhythmbox, Exaile, XMMS2 (GTK/Gnome based) and Amarok, JuK (Qt/KDE based). Video players: Totem, Xine, MPlayer, VLC, Kaffeine - See also !codecs | 18:49 |
| BUGabundo | Tukon: read the release notes! | 18:50 |
| BUGabundo | you need to install a xorg-input package | 18:50 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: There is no new wntries in the leases files and I cant find anything sucpisous in the dpcp.log | 18:50 |
| Tukon | BUGabundo, thanks | 18:51 |
| BUGabundo | Tukon: http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha4 | 18:51 |
| BUGabundo | The X.Org synaptics driver is absent from the liveCD, which may prevent touchpad devices from working on laptops. As a workaround, use Ctrl+Alt+F1 to switch to console, log in, run sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-all to download the drivers from the network, and then return to your session with Alt+F7. | 18:51 |
| IntuitiveNipple | askand: Have you tried disconnecting/reconnecting the interface via NetworkManager to see if it always happens? | 18:52 |
| biouser | I have all of these many2many one2one ForeignKeys that ultimately are tied to auth.User... any thoughts on whether I should tie them to UserProfile vs auth.User? | 18:53 |
| biouser | oops | 18:53 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: it happens if I disconnect and disconnect yes | 18:54 |
| askand | then I have to add route again | 18:54 |
| IntuitiveNipple | ok... so, the thing to do is run tcpdump and capture the network traffic to see what the laptop gets sent by the router, to be sure that it is in fact being sent the gateway | 18:54 |
| askand | dcpdump wlan0 gives no suitable device found | 18:56 |
| IntuitiveNipple | So, what you'd do is. Disconnect the network. In a terminal start tcpdump "sudo tcpdump -i wlan0 -w wlan0-dhcp.dump". Tell NetworkManager to reconnect. Once it has connected, use Ctrl+C to stop tcpdump and examine the communications to see if DHCP sent the gateway. | 18:58 |
| IntuitiveNipple | That command, with -w, will write the raw output to a capture file so you can examine it later, with things like WireShark | 18:59 |
| maxb | Don't forget -s0 to not truncate the captured packets | 19:10 |
| askand | I can not run tcpdump when interface is not connected | 19:12 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Strange... I can here... and so far as I recall I've always been able to | 19:13 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Another Jaunty-alpha bug maybe? | 19:13 |
| askand | IntuitiveNipple: mmight be | 19:13 |
| IntuitiveNipple | tcpdump uses libpcap which hooks into the kernel.... I suppose a problem is possible... I'll try later when I test alpha-4 | 19:14 |
| IntuitiveNipple | right. Time to pop the hard drive out and use another one to test the alpha-4... see you from the live-CD... maybe! | 19:20 |
| simion314 | hi, i have a have a strange networking problem in 9.04, i have a dinamic IP and the dhclient gets the correct IP, route is set correct but i have network unreacheble error, is some firewall or some other bug? i tried ifconfig up/down and dhclient eth0 but it does not worck | 19:38 |
| JeyPeyy | Hey! How come https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyReleaseSchedule isn't updated? | 20:04 |
| maxb | JeyPeyy: with what? | 20:04 |
| JeyPeyy | The alpha 4 link | 20:04 |
| maxb | Perhaps because no one has gotten around to it? | 20:05 |
| JeyPeyy | I'm not a developer, but is it OK if I add the link to http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/jaunty/alpha4 ? | 20:12 |
| maco | JeyPeyy: dont see why not. its a wiki and the devs will be notified of all changes anyway | 20:16 |
| JeyPeyy | Because of the "Please do not edit" at the begining | 20:16 |
| JeyPeyy | But I do it anyways then | 20:17 |
| maco | JeyPeyy: oh. i think they just dont want you screwing up the dates. if theyre unhappy about the link that should be there being added to fulfill the "should"...they can undo it and redo it :P | 20:23 |
| FFForever | has the sound bug been fixed yet? | 20:26 |
| Matir` | Is CPU Frequency Scaling known to be broken in any way? When mine is on "ondemand", it seems to always be at 800 MHz, even when I simulate lots of load | 20:34 |
| admin_masu3701 | do anyone know what is the networking chennel where i could get info on TCP/IP? | 21:41 |
| Pici | admin_masu3701: ##networking | 21:42 |
| KDesk | hi | 21:42 |
| admin_masu3701 | thanks Pici | 21:42 |
| KDesk | How does Jaunty know the best dpi setting for the display? | 21:42 |
| woody86 | anyone know why I can't install bootchart in Jaunty? It says bootchart is not available, but is referred to by another package. | 21:57 |
| IntuitiveNipple | woody86: No files: see http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/bootchart-udeb | 22:00 |
| woody86 | IntuitiveNipple, so what's that mean? I can't install it for the time being? | 22:01 |
| IntuitiveNipple | Yeah.. I guess the repositories have got to catch up | 22:02 |
| woody86 | IntuitiveNipple, ah, thx :) | 22:03 |
| lfaraone | Hi, sound suddenly stopped working on my workstation. We're using a intergreated card, all settings are at 100% and unmuted. http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=46c3de71252018f0dcb79bc691039617013ea841 | 22:18 |
| lfaraone | Any ideas? | 22:19 |
| lfaraone | Oh, and I _do_ get system-beep-sound when that's unmuted, but no other sounds. (such as "aplay /dev/urandom" | 22:19 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: sec | 22:26 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: use speaker-test to test, not aplay /dev/urandom | 22:27 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: mute 'Analog Loopback' | 22:27 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: lastly, if you're using pulseaudio, use `pulseaudio -k ; start-pulseaudio-x11' and try playing media | 22:28 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: Thanks. When I attempted to execute that last statement, I got the following: I: caps.c: Dropping root privileges. | 22:32 |
| lfaraone | I: caps.c: Limited capabilities successfully to CAP_SYS_NICE. | 22:32 |
| lfaraone | Connection failure: Connection refused | 22:32 |
| dtchen | 1) system-wide daemon or per-user session daemon? | 22:32 |
| dtchen | 2) sudo fuser -v /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/* /dev/seq* | 22:33 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: I'm on GNOME, have "Use sound devices" checked in Sys>admin>users, and am using a per-user daemon afaict. | 22:33 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: /dev/snd/controlC0: lfaraone 13315 F.... alsamixer | 22:33 |
| lfaraone | lfaraone 18731 F.... mixer_applet2 | 22:33 |
| TuTUXG | is a4 out? | 22:36 |
| lfaraone | TuTUXG: Yes, see the topic. | 22:37 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: that's all? | 22:41 |
| dtchen | and which app is generating connection refused? the daemon surely shouldn't be. | 22:41 |
| TuTUXG | lfaraone, lol, didnt notice that, i was checking distrowatch | 22:42 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: http://pastebin.com/m2fdb3c8e | 22:44 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: that's all. | 22:44 |
| dtchen | ok, instead of `start-pulseaudio-x11', use `pulseaudio -D -vv' | 22:45 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: http://pastebin.com/m3e0abce9 | 22:47 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: ... and still no audio. | 22:48 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: `amixer' output? | 22:49 |
| imme | Could anyone help me to get gnome to start completely, or am I on my own? | 22:49 |
| dtchen | imme: where is it failing to "start completely"? | 22:50 |
| imme | Well I log into gdm, then it unloads gdm | 22:50 |
| imme | I see the first screen. | 22:50 |
| imme | The cursor becomes the loading-thing | 22:50 |
| imme | my background loads and then nothing more. | 22:51 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: http://pastebin.com/me055160 | 22:51 |
| dtchen | imme: fresh install of a4 or distribution upgrade? reproducible with a new user? | 22:51 |
| dtchen | imme: reproducible when compiz is disabled? | 22:52 |
| imme | dtchen: Good questions... | 22:52 |
| dtchen | imme: reproducible using the vesa driver? | 22:52 |
| Adys | https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/xorg-ctrl-alt-backspace said there's a way to reenable this behaviour. how? | 22:52 |
| dtchen | Adys: install the dontzap package | 22:53 |
| Adys | thanks dtchen | 22:53 |
| dtchen | then you can use `sudo dontzap -d' | 22:53 |
| Adys | i see yeah | 22:54 |
| Adys | cheers | 22:54 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: i presume you have ensured that the output device is snugly connected to the correct output jack? | 22:54 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: Yes. | 22:54 |
| Adys | any idea where this is handled? which config file or something | 22:54 |
| dtchen | Adys: /etc/X11/xorg.conf, as usual | 22:55 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: As I've said, I do hear a system beep when I attempt to trigger one in terminal and "system beep" is unmuted in alsacontrol | 22:55 |
| Adys | ahh | 22:55 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: what is "alsacontrol"? | 22:55 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: *alsamixer | 22:56 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: can you reproduce this symptom in a fresh boot of an a4 desktop cd? | 22:58 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: I'm afraid I don't have one handy. Will Unetbootin's Jaunty "daily build" be sufficent? | 23:00 |
| lfaraone | *build option | 23:00 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: if it's absolutely current, yes. | 23:01 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: yes, it downloads the ISO from the main server | 23:02 |
| dtchen | hence the "absolutely current" part | 23:02 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: hehe. It uses http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/jaunty-desktop-amd64.iso | 23:03 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: (current as of yesterday) | 23:03 |
| xsg | HI | 23:07 |
| MadsRH | Does anyone know what version of Compiz will be included in Jaunty? There's a new version released in a week or so | 23:10 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: i also assume that you've ensured (e.g., using pavucontrol) that pa itself hasn't muted the streams | 23:11 |
| imme | dtchen: It's working again | 23:12 |
| imme | I have no idea as to what I migh have done. | 23:13 |
| imme | dtchen: syslog reports X11 session manager is not running | 23:13 |
| imme | and that seahorse-daemon.desktop failed to register before timeout | 23:13 |
| imme | besides I see nothing strange. | 23:14 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: pavucontrol? | 23:14 |
| dtchen | yes, separate package (also binary executable name) | 23:15 |
| lamalex | hey, can anyone help me debug why hal is failing to mount my external drives? | 23:16 |
| lamalex | It says its using invalid mount options | 23:16 |
| lamalex | but I can't tell what mount options it's using | 23:16 |
| dtchen | lamalex: hal shouldn't mount your external drives; either dolphin or gnome-mount does | 23:16 |
| lfaraone | lamalex: did you *change* the options? | 23:16 |
| imme | dtchen: Thanks for the good questions, I hope I will remember them in case something like this might happen again. | 23:16 |
| lamalex | lfaraone: this is a fresh jaunty install | 23:16 |
| dtchen | (kubuntu vs. ubuntu, respectively) | 23:16 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: nope, all streams clear, sans "input" | 23:17 |
| lamalex | dtchen: ok, then gnome-mount is telling me this | 23:18 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: which question does that answer? | 23:18 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: 18:11 dtchen$ lfaraone: i also assume that you've ensured (e.g., using pavucontrol) that pa itself hasn't muted the streams | 23:23 |
| dtchen | lamalex: use --show-settings | 23:23 |
| lamalex | dtchen: lfaraone: eh? Any idea how to tell what mount options it's using? | 23:23 |
| lamalex | ah | 23:23 |
| lamalex | hmm.. now that'd doing /noting/ | 23:24 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: ok. have you, in fact, established that the pa daemon is wonky? | 23:24 |
| dtchen | lamalex: you have to attempt to mount the partition... | 23:24 |
| lamalex | i'm aware | 23:24 |
| dtchen | lamalex: and you can look in gconf if you're so inclined | 23:25 |
| lamalex | nome-mount --show-settings --verbose -d /dev/sdb1 | 23:25 |
| lamalex | dtchen: where in gconf | 23:25 |
| lamalex | s/nome/gnome | 23:25 |
| dtchen | /system/storage/defaults/FS_TYPE | 23:25 |
| dtchen | documented further in gnome-mount(1) | 23:25 |
| lamalex | there are no option paths for ext3 fs, unless they're labelled as something else | 23:26 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: meaning, if you issue `pulseaudio -k ; speaker-test -Dplughw:0 -c2', is the speaker-test audible? | 23:26 |
| dtchen | offline; e-mail or submit a bug report with all those details | 23:30 |
| dtchen | (as attachments) | 23:31 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: No, it is not. | 23:31 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: PA seems to be working fine. | 23:31 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: it *appears* to be getting the sound and writing it to the device. | 23:31 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: ok, then you should be able to get it to a sane state by killing everything using audio, unloading the driver, and *then* rebooting | 23:31 |
| dtchen | sorry | 23:32 |
| dtchen | you need to rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state after unloading the driver | 23:32 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: how exactly do I unload the driver? | 23:34 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: (I'm currently planning to init 1 and rm that file) | 23:34 |
| lamalex | dtchen: there are no option paths for ext3 fs, unless they're labelled as something else | 23:34 |
| lfaraone | lamalex: 18:30 dtchen$ offline; e-mail or submit a bug report with all those details | 23:35 |
| lamalex | lfaraone: ah, you didn't ping me. didn't know it was forme | 23:35 |
| lamalex | rather dtchen didn't ping me | 23:35 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: check awk '{print $2}' /proc/asound/modules | 23:37 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: so something like "init 1; modprobe -r snd_hda_intel; rm /var/lib/alsa/asound.state; reboot"? | 23:39 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: no need to telinit 1 first | 23:42 |
| lfaraone | dtchen: well, how else do I kill all sound apps? | 23:42 |
| dtchen | lfaraone: bah, just use sudo /sbin/alsa force-unload ; sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state | 23:43 |
| === FFForever is now known as FFForver[away] | ||
| * lfaraone reboots | 23:46 | |
| lfaraone | dtchen: Great, it works. | 23:49 |
| lfaraone | *adds that command to the wiki* | 23:49 |
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