[00:05] <ngirard> Hi all. Since my update from hardy to intrepid, my <down> key only works in console. It generates no X event. How to fix this ?
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: check system settings so that your keyboard is correct
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: or set it to something diferent, then back
[00:14] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: are you running compiz?
[00:14] <ngirard> ActionParsnip: I fixed the problem. Thanks for your assistance !
[00:14] <vit> holaaaaaa
[00:14] <vit> a todos
[00:15] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: was i right?
[00:15] <vit> akqguien de venezuela
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> !br
[00:16] <ngirard> ActionParsnip: Yes you were. Silly enough, the layout was defined correctly inxorg.conf but I had to specify it again via kde control panel. Weird...
[00:16] <ActionParsnip> ngirard: well you got the score so wtg :)
[00:21] <cbwcjw> I thought venezuelans spoke spanish, not portuges :P
[00:30] <ActionParsnip> !es
[00:31] <ActionParsnip> cbwcjw: they speak a few i'd imagine
[00:31] <cbwcjw> !ActionParsnip :P Alrighty
[00:31] <cbwcjw> Oops....
[00:36] <jals> is there anything that ships with Interpid that monitors system temperatures?
[00:39] <hubar> hmm.
[00:39] <hubar> I know kde 4.2 has applet that monitors that. :)'
[00:40] <kubiak> hello
[00:40] <cbwcjw> !hi | kubaik
[00:40] <kubiak> haha, it seems cbwcjw is not a bot
[00:40] <kubiak> :)
[00:41] <cbwcjw> haha
[00:41] <jals> hubar, do i need to install anything to make that applet work? it doesn't seem to be finding any sensors
[00:41] <kubiak> i have one question, it's about the full kcontrol panel, i now i was not included before, but now i'm running the latest kubuntu and it would seem it's still not ported ?
[00:41] <kubiak> anyone know what i'm even talking about ?  :D
[00:41] <ActionParsnip> kubiak: i think you mean systemsettings ?
[00:42] <kubiak> ActionParsnip: something like that, but in kde i've often seen two panels, one being alot more complete
[00:42] <danielq> hola
[00:42] <kubiak> i can only find the one that looks like the mac os panel.
[00:42] <kubiak> hi danielq
[00:42] <ActionParsnip> kubiak: systemsettings has basic and advanced options (see tabs) at the top
[00:43] <danielq> speak spanish
[00:43] <cbwcjw> !es | danielq
[00:44] <kubiak> ActionParsnip: thanks :P  however that is the minimal panel or so it should seem
[00:44] <danielq> thak
[00:44] <danielq> thank
[00:44] <cbwcjw> danielq: de nada
[00:44] <danielq> hasta luego
[00:45] <ActionParsnip> kubiak: do you not have an advanced tab ?
[00:45] <yoolao> hello, does some one knows how to suspend to ram from command line?
[00:45] <kubiak> ActionParsnip: there is the advanced tab
[00:45] <kubiak> but i'm wondering if things aren't just a bit "hidden"
[00:46] <ActionParsnip> kubiak: not sure, what are you after?
[00:46] <kubiak> ActionParsnip: do you "remember" the kcontrol panel and kde 3.X ?  the one that had a whole bunch of things
[00:46] <kubiak> for starters, i'm looking for an option to change the color of the panel  :p
[00:47] <Sp0tKubuntu> If i got 2 acpi and acpid installed, can that be why me battery status dosent work?
[00:47] <ActionParsnip> kubiak: yeah i know what you mean, as far as I can see it's all there
[00:47] <kubiak> okay ActionParsnip
[00:47] <kubiak> well maybe it's just organised differently and i have to look closer into all the tabs and options and such
[00:48] <willianvalle> some people know if konqueror not run orkut.com? because here stay in one blank page x.x
[00:48] <kubiak> thank you for confirming that you have found all you need in there, i'm going to take a closer look
[00:48] <pardaloco> boas
[00:49] <ActionParsnip> kubiak: if theres something you can't find it may be set elsewhere
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> Orkut is a social networking service which is run by Google and named after its creator, an employee of Google
[00:51] <ActionParsnip> willianvalle: does it work in other browsers like opera?
[00:51] <kubiak> bye bye :)
[00:51] <kubiak> see you later
[00:52] <willianvalle> i used opera browser, but it have others problems , like problemens with  my college website.
[00:54] <ActionParsnip> willianvalle: or try firefox
[00:58] <willianvalle> yes, i am using. nobody knows how to run orkut in konqueror?
[01:09] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to change the font color of a current session in konsole
[01:10] <JontheEchidna> Settings -> Edit current profile -> appearance
[01:11] <shadowhywind> sorry, I should have been more clear, from a console command
[01:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Crazy, when i was on 32 bit on my machine, i used only 700Mb RAM ca, now im on 64 bit, almost same appz, and using over 1Gb
[01:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is that because its converting to 32 bit from 64?
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> shadowhywind: oh, I have no clue then
[01:12] <shadowhywind> JontheEchidna: thanks anyways, hehe I had it setup nicely for kde 3, just haven't had the time till now to try to get it working on kde 4
[01:14] <Gun_Smoke> Sp0tKubuntu: yes because of 64 bit
[01:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Gun_Smoke: Ok, Thanks! :-) I thought i was that, just have to be sure
[01:15] <Gun_Smoke> there is no real benifit to using 64 bit over 32.. 64 bit is really good a crunching massive numbers better and handeling more ram than 32 and that's about it.
[01:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Is there a nice program for linux to see hardware details, like in windows, RAM, HDD, CPU, TEMP, and so on and so on?
[01:16] <Gun_Smoke> So unless you have more than 3G mem or do a lot of scientific caculations on a regular basis.. 32 is usually better bet
[01:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Gun_Smoke: Thats ok, i have 4Gb, and want to use them .-D
[01:17] <Gun_Smoke> You can also still use 32 bit but then you'd need the big_mem kernel.
[01:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> Gun_Smoke: Converting DVDś, unpacking rar archives and so on, so i think i will be happy for 64
[01:17] <Gun_Smoke> not sure if that's how it's labled.
[01:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> Gun_Smoke: The big-mem?
[01:17] <Gun_Smoke> I have used both 64 and 32 on my T61 and don't really notice a difference..
[01:18] <Gun_Smoke> big mem kernel will address more than 3G or mem for 32 bit
[01:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> I do, i see i works faster, and more stable
[01:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm ok, and i can go back as easy to 32 from 64 as the other way??'
[01:19] <Gun_Smoke> it's a reinstall
[01:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> I know
[01:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i have my /home with all my stuff
[01:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> So i just format /
[01:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> Have 2 partitions
[01:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> Well 3, with the swap
[01:20] <Gun_Smoke> yeah pretty much..
[01:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i can go back that easy? format / and reinstall 32 bit?
[01:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, thats easy! :-D
[01:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> Im surprised
[01:21] <Gun_Smoke> I just looked at it again.. I can't find a bigmem kernel image for buntu
[01:21] <Gun_Smoke> I know debian has one.
[01:21] <Gun_Smoke> yeah if you have your home folder you'll be up and running in what.. 25 min
[01:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, try to ask at the danish ubuntu forum then
[01:21] <Pici> ubuntu-server supports PAE
[01:21] <Pici> er, the ubuntu-server kernel rather.
[01:22] <Gun_Smoke> good call
[01:22] <Gun_Smoke> then just build from there
[01:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> Think it took 15 min, my root is only 15 gb :-)
[01:22] <Gun_Smoke> so yeah they fly..
[01:22] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thanks for the help :-)
[01:22] <Gun_Smoke> np
[01:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> MS could learn alot inhere :-D
[01:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> Only reason to have windows, is for playing games, hope that will have a end. and linux taking over .-D
[01:24] <Gun_Smoke> might as well just get a consel
[01:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> Nah, thats plain and boring :-D
[01:24] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to send leyboard strokes (like a keepass) to a konsole
[01:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> I like playing with alot of graphic details
[01:25] <Gun_Smoke> errr console
[01:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Specielly in L4D :-)
[01:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> errr?
[01:25] <Gun_Smoke> sp error
[01:25] <Sp0tKubuntu> Console is not enough, the graphic is not so good like PC
[01:26] <Gun_Smoke> 42" plasma and HD games?
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> yeah, still not good enough, the graphic on PS3 and Xbox is lame agains PC gaming
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Have you seen the comparising of doom 3 on PC and xbox?
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hell of alot of graphic material missing on xbox
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> PC + HDTV ;-)
[01:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats the way
[01:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dual 42" .-P
[01:28]  * Sp0tKubuntu dreaming
[01:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> Anyhow, PS3 is Sony, and Xbox i MS, so fair, no change! LinuxBOX plz!
[01:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-)
[01:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i buy a console
[01:30] <shadowhywind> JontheEchidna: Btw, for future refrence, in case someelse wants to know, in the konsole, konsoleprofile colors=<profile name>
[01:36] <Gun_Smoke> I believe I saw something on digg a few days ago about ubuntu running on a ps3
[01:36] <cbwcjw> Well, my KDE crashed and wouldnt start...
[01:36] <cbwcjw> Just reinstalled it. It would hang at start and I was too lazy to fix it.
[01:37] <Zorix> you broke it :/
[01:38] <dragos> hello
[01:38] <cbwcjw> !hi | dragos
[01:39] <cbwcjw> Zorix: Yea :( All I was doing was setting up VNC enterprise though...
[01:39] <Zorix> wonder what broke
[01:40] <cbwcjw> Something about ICE
[01:43] <dragos> he carolina
[01:43] <PSiL0> so, how is the experience of upgrading fglrx to 9.1?
[01:43] <PSiL0> especially using amd's installer..
[01:44] <dragos> don't install ist; savage gk
[01:45] <dragos> just follow the --help
[01:47] <kurumin> oiii
[01:47] <willianvalle> um brasileiro do nada n.n
[01:48] <kurumin> sim, sou brasileiro kkk
[01:48] <willianvalle> i think, in this canal the peoples just talk in english oO
[01:49] <cbwcjw> !pt
[01:49] <kurumin> pt!
[01:50] <kurumin> quero amor de mulher :D
[01:50] <kurumin> i love you
[01:50] <willianvalle> ??
[01:51] <kurumin> cade mulherada nova???
[01:52] <cbwcjw> !pt
[01:52] <cbwcjw> !es
[01:53] <cbwcjw> Inglés solamente \ só Inglês
[01:53] <erpo> For technical reasons, I can't upgrade past nvidia driver 173. Have there been any stability/performance improvements made in the latest kubuntu-experimental PPA to address the problems that KDE 4.2 has with older nvidia drivers such as the one I'm using?
[01:53] <kurumin> hello!
[01:53] <cbwcjw> Hi
[01:54] <kurumin> you is woman?
[01:54] <dragos> hi ho
[01:55] <willianvalle> aeuheau. no woman use linux Oo
[01:55] <cbwcjw> Except for my mom.
[01:55] <kurumin> :P
[01:56] <cbwcjw> Ubuntu default, completley. Works just fine for her. Her words: "Why dont more people use this?"
[01:56] <kurumin> 25 and you?
[01:57] <kurumin> i use in kurumin of linux
[01:57] <willianvalle> ueaha.
[01:57] <willianvalle> 	
[01:57] <willianvalle> my programming teacher USA
[01:57] <kurumin> i not speak english
[01:57] <willianvalle> my programming teacher use*
[01:57] <kurumin> i speak only portuguese
[01:57] <kurumin> i am brazil
[01:58] <cbwcjw> !pt | kurumin
[01:58] <cbwcjw> There are brazillian Channels
[01:59] <kurumin> i used in program is kubuntu irc
[01:59] <willianvalle> use the #ubuntu-pt
[02:00] <cbwcjw> Hes brazillian, he should use #kubuntu-br
[02:00] <kurumin> !br
[02:01] <cbwcjw> kurumin: Type /join #ubuntu-br
[02:04] <cuznt> !en
[02:05] <cbwcjw> So, How am I supposed to make my taskbar transparent
[02:05] <cbwcjw> It was before...
[02:06] <Pyles17> my intel 3945 wireless card only works occasionally. the driver comes with ubuntu, but "lshw -C network" says the card is "UNCLAIMED". i've given up, i don't know what to do
[02:06] <cbwcjw> So, How am I supposed to make my taskbar transparent.. It was before I re-installed KDE
[02:12] <dragos> for taskbar: setting -> Desktop -> Panels -> Apperance
[02:13] <dragos> ->set transparent -> choice color int the advance option
[02:14] <deever> hi
[02:15] <deever> why the hell can knetworkmanager establish the connection to my wlan, but the standard debian ipupdown tools can't?
[02:15] <Pyles17> !language
[02:16] <Pyles17> !language
[02:16] <Pyles17> it doesn't work
[02:16] <Pyles17> anyway, all-ages room, watch your language please
[02:16] <kaddi_> !ohmy
[02:17] <kaddi_> i would have sworn that was the right one XD
[02:17] <Pyles17> it is, ubottu isn't in the room
[02:17] <jimdb> is there a way with kde 4.2 to show mounted volumes on the desktop (hard drives and network drives)?
[02:17] <kaddi_> where did he go? :o
[02:17] <cbwcjw> Whered ubotto go to :(
[02:18] <cbwcjw> [21:10] *** ubottu quit (Read error: 104 (Connection reset by peer))
[02:18] <erpo> deever: Your wlan probably uses WPA. IIRC, that requires launching wpa_supplicant to connect, which is a major pain when you have to do it without networkmanager.
[02:18] <cbwcjw> Yay! Hes Back!
[02:18] <cbwcjw> !botsnack
[02:18] <cbwcjw> :( He didnt accept my snack. Sigh.
[02:18] <Pyles17> !botsnack
[02:19] <cbwcjw> !botsnack
[02:19] <cbwcjw> Well, it was worth a try.
[02:21] <cbwcjw> Wow!
[02:21] <deever> erpo: even if i have the parameters in the /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:21] <PSiL0> laggy lag...
[02:25] <_olaf> when upgrading to kde 4.2 through the third party repo
[02:25] <_olaf> it errors
[02:25] <Pyles17> no clue on the intel 3945 wireless then?
[02:25] <_olaf> it didn't 2 nights ago
[02:26] <_olaf> anyone know what's up?
[02:31] <deever> erpo: ?
[02:33] <keres> deever: he was active on #ubuntu 10 minutes ago
[02:35] <_olaf> i googled it
[02:35] <_olaf> i think this might be the problem
[02:35] <_olaf> http://www.linux-archive.org/kubuntu-user/236265-upgrade-kde-4-2-a-2.html
[02:35] <_olaf> for future reference if anyone else asks
[02:36] <etfb> Firefox has started closing randomly, usually as it's opening a new page.  It didn't used to do that, and I don't think I changed anything.  I'm on Intrepid with KDE4.2.  Any guesses where to start debugging?
[02:40] <etfb> Also: I tweaked some UI settings in KDE4.2 using some kind of GUI tool that I now can't find.  It had stuff about making the windows wobble as you drag them (which doesn't work, BTW).  Does that ring a bell for anyone?
[02:42] <astromme> etfb: Right click a window title, configure window behavior -> Desktop Effects -> All effects
[02:43] <etfb> astromme: That was it! Thanks!
[02:43] <astromme> etfb: np
[02:43] <deever> keres: ?
[02:43] <deever> yes, and...?
[02:43] <deever> ah mmt
[02:44] <keres> ?
[02:44] <keres> deever: yeah>?
[02:44] <keres> deever: i was inquiring about burning a dvd
[02:45] <deever> keres: sorry, didn's see that you were saying #ubuntu instead of #kubuntu! ;)
[02:48] <Brandon_X> hello everyone I have a ?
[02:49] <al3x-admin> Hi all! I have a prob. Some days ago I remove one item from the Kmenu (KDE4.2) (right click > edit menu > remove item > save) and since then when I install/remove an app the Kmenu doesnt get updated, and I have to update it with kbuildsycocoa4. Any ideas how could I fix this? Its not really a big thing, but its anoying...
[02:49] <Brandon_X> I'm attempting to run UT2004 with WINE, apparently when I try to run it, it logs me out of kubuntu, someone please help!
[02:49] <erpo> Brandon_X: I think UT2004 has a native linux version. You might try that.
[02:50] <astromme> Brandon_X: Sounds like an X crash. But yeah I'd try the native version
[02:50] <Brandon_X> me and a friend tryed installing it with installer.sh no luck
[02:50] <Brandon_X> and I don't have the native version
[02:50] <Brandon_X> I ordered the windows/linux version off ebay
[02:50] <erpo> Brandon_X: If you have the windows discs, I think you can download the rest of what you need.
[02:51] <Brandon_X> all I wanna do is be able to play my games, ever since I switched over from xp, i've had nothing but problems
[02:52] <erpo> Brandon_X: Ubuntu/Linux is not the OS for trouble-free gaming.
[02:53] <erpo> Brandon_X: FWIW, I've found that games that crash X in KDE 4/4.2 work fine in Gnome.
[02:53] <Brandon_X> well anyways as I said earlier, me and a friend tryed using the installer.sh that came on the cd, which is the install file for linux
[02:54] <Brandon_X> well that is bs
[02:54] <Brandon_X> why can't we the community, develope kubuntu like windows, at least make it more easier to use
[02:55] <erpo> Brandon_X: I don't know what's up with KDE. I want to love the new look, but it crashes every 15 minutes for me.
[02:55] <Brandon_X> it seems gnome was a more reliable desktop
[02:55] <erpo> Brandon_X: That's my experience.
[02:56] <Brandon_X> is there anyway I can switch to gnome without changing os
[02:56] <wers> kde 4.2 doesnt wake up from sleep properly. any idea why? it works fine on gnome. when i wake up from kde 4.2, it goes back to sleep then wakes up then goes back to sleep then wakes up over and over again
[02:56] <erpo> Brandon_X: Yes. You can go to a command line and run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[02:56] <erpo> Brandon_X: When it's finished, you can log out and log back in using gnome.
[02:56] <Brandon_X> under kubuntu?
[02:56] <erpo> Brandon_X: Yes.
[02:56] <erpo> Brandon_X: The only difference between kubuntu and ubuntu is which packages are installed by default.
[02:57] <erpo> Brandon_X: I started with Ubuntu and converted to KDE using the command sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop.
[02:57] <Brandon_X> Well i like kubuntu, because it's easy to use. but I know theres a way to make this work
[02:58] <Brandon_X> I mean i try loading the game I get slammed with all kind of crazy colors etc on the screen
[02:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ive just installed a packet called hwtest, but i cant find the program anywhere?
[02:59] <olskolirc> hey guys how come I can't edit my menu?  and what is the command to update my menus?
[02:59] <erpo> Sp0tKubuntu: You can run the comman dpkg-deb --contents FILE.deb on the package to find out what files it installs.
[03:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> erpo: Ok, thats to complicated for me :-D
[03:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Im used to press a button, and then i runs :-)
[03:00] <jimdb> time to get a mac
[03:00] <erpo> Sp0tKubuntu: Sorry. Linux isn't that good yet. :)
[03:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, u say linux dosent work? :-)
[03:01] <jimdb> i've used all, linux, mac, and windows.  linux is excellent.  if you don't know how to get it working then you should get someone to set up windows for you.
[03:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> I hope it will be then, the other thing is TO hard for most common ppl
[03:01] <erpo> Sp0tKubuntu: It usually works for me, but it isn't always as easy to use as it could be.
[03:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Say hello go ignore, jerk
[03:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> to*
[03:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> erpo: Then its not fair ppl telling ppl linux is know for all
[03:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats NOT true then
[03:02] <erpo> Sp0tKubuntu: Linux is definitely good enough for some people.
[03:02] <jimdb> i wasn't being a jerk.  I was being realistic.  if linux is harder than clicking the icon to launch the program then so is windows and so is the mac.  and if it's hard to do other things then someone else should set it up for you.  i was being honest.
[03:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Sorry, i just used to ppl flaming noobs like me, im a windows user you see ;-) Want to run linux! :-D
[03:04] <Brandon_X> ok me and my friend are gonna go gnome
[03:04] <Brandon_X> we gonna get the pckage
[03:04] <Brandon_X> which package is the BASE for gnome
[03:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> erpo: I think its ok, but still to hard at some points! I cant even get it to play DVD proper, its lagging BAD
[03:04] <Brandon_X> gnome-common?
[03:04] <jimdb> after 25 years in computing, and after spending 15 years in technical support and then spending the past 5 years running my own shop, I have found that people that have difficulty with linux really have problems with adjusting their thinking.  It's not linux.
[03:04] <eatThisAndDie> jimdb: You can move mountains before you move people
[03:05] <erpo> eatThisAndDie: Well said. :)
[03:05] <jimdb> what I said wasn't moving?
[03:05] <Brandon_X> does anyone know which package for GNOME is the primary package
[03:05] <Brandon_X> which contains everything GNOME
[03:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Its like starting from scrath, thats what i see, forget windows, yes! BUT, its still not easy using linux yet, but i hope it will be, because i like freedom :-)
[03:05] <jimdb> most everyone using windows today has had it set up for them.  if linux was the same we'd not be disputing ease of use.
[03:05] <erpo> Sp0tKubuntu: That is true. Part of the DVD problem is related to messed up laws in the U.S. and other places. If LInux weren't handicapped, its DVD playback support would probably be adequate for 90% of the people out there.
[03:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> erpo: Are you telling me i cant get it to run then? :-((
[03:06] <jimdb> both windows and linux have the same dvd issues.
[03:06] <eatThisAndDie> brandon-x: do u mean gnome-desktop?
[03:06] <Brandon_X> yes
[03:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Windows?? Plays DVD like a dream here
[03:06] <cbwcjw2> !purekde
[03:06] <jimdb> no one is entitled to watch the dvd unless they have a legit codec.  the issue is where does the legit codec come from?  you can buy products such as windvd for linux.
[03:07] <erpo> Sp0tKubuntu: It depends on what your problem is. If you live in the U.S. and you're willing to break a few laws, you can get DVD playback to work just fine.
[03:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: problem is on ORIGINAL DVDs ti
[03:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> to*
[03:07] <Brandon_X> i dont want a link
[03:07] <Brandon_X> im in my package manager
[03:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> erpo: Live in DK, and i give a .... about the law :-D
[03:08] <Brandon_X> just tell me the name of the gnome
[03:08] <Brandon_X> that i need for the whole gnome base desktop
[03:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> erpo: Pm please
[03:08] <erpo> !dvd | Sp0tKubuntu
[03:08] <jimdb> if you aren't worried about the laws, linux has all the necessary stuff to playback any/all dvds (not blueray).
[03:08] <kaddi> Sp0tKubuntu you usually not only have to pay for the dvd you also have to pay for the program that reads the dvd
[03:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, but how, and where? .-)
[03:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> kaddi: Not in DK
[03:09] <jimdb> add medibuntu to your respository then install libdvdcss2
[03:09] <Brandon_X> does any user in here know the package name that contains the WHOLE GNOME desktop
[03:09] <kaddi> which is way Ubuntu can not ship the software by default
[03:09] <Brandon_X> anybody?
[03:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Dont understand? Im new! But i have installed that one!
[03:09] <erpo> Brandon_X: ubuntu-desktop
[03:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Medibuntu? Where do i find? :-)
[03:10] <stdin> !medibuntu
[03:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Where to find on danish? Its a little to hard for me to understand all this new terms in eng.
[03:11] <jimdb> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[03:11] <stdin> !dk | Sp0tKubuntu
[03:12] <gartral1> hello all
[03:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Want support for medibuntu, not ubuntu
[03:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Same thing maybe?
[03:13] <jimdb> 100% of all windows users have the same issue with dvd playback.  what they get to overcome this is:  typically the company they purchased the computer from (dell, hp, gateway, etc) paid the dvd playback software company to provide you with a cd such as windvd.
[03:13] <JontheEchidna> well, there are probably not enough Danish speaking people to justify a medibuntu-dk channel
[03:13] <stdin> Sp0tKubuntu: medibunti is just a software repository
[03:13] <JontheEchidna> quite specific
[03:13] <JontheEchidna> that too^
[03:13] <jimdb> if you follow the instructions in the link i provided you will accomplish what you want.
[03:13] <gartral1> my fried brandon needs help, i remember there once was a way too run the components of both gnome and kde side by side, what does he need too do that?
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i just choose the 8.10?
[03:13] <jimdb> when you are done, install VLC.
[03:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> Its for 64 bit also?
[03:14] <jimdb> 8.10 is the version of k/ubuntu that you have?
[03:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have VLC, as my favorit
[03:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Yes, but 64bit
[03:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> And Kubuntu yes
[03:14] <jimdb> and are you using programs that require more than 4 gigs of ram?
[03:14] <jimdb> if not, then you should have 32bit
[03:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Not more, but i use much RAM
[03:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> My computer works better now than before, after i installed 64 bit insted of 32
[03:16] <stdin> Sp0tKubuntu: yes, there are packages for 64bit too
[03:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then the command will not work for 64bit?
[03:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm
[03:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> The same package?
[03:16] <stdin> it'll work on both
[03:16] <stdin> yes
[03:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh ok, thx :-)
[03:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> testing then :-)
[03:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> BRB
[03:17] <gartral1> my fried brandon needs help, i remember there once was a way too run the components of both gnome and kde side by side, what does he need too do that? sorryy for the repost
[03:17] <stdin> what do you mean "components of both" ?
[03:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin: Now i got the list, what do i do then? See in my packetmanager for new packet?
[03:18]  * barbar__conan is away: Gone away for now
[03:18] <khalidmian> firefox says i have missing plugins called video/x-msvideo
[03:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe add GBG key also
[03:19] <khalidmian> any idea what that means?
[03:19] <gartral1> stdin: i mean, hes trying too run something thats better suite or gnome, but he has kubuntu instaled, what packages does he need too make it work?
[03:19] <stdin> Sp0tKubuntu: for encrypted DVD support install libdvdcss2
[03:19] <wil__> hola
[03:19] <wil__> hay algien ke able
[03:19] <wil__> español
[03:19] <kaddi> !es
[03:20] <stdin> gartral1: it should work in both gnome and KDE the same, just run the application
[03:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin:  have already
[03:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin: Should i also run: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install medibuntu-keyring && sudo apt-get update
[03:20] <khalidmian> firefox says i have missing plugins called video/x-msvideo  - when i pointed to the missing plugins it took me to divx page - any idea on how i can instal divx plugins in kubuntu?
[03:20] <stdin> Sp0tKubuntu: if you want apt to stop complaining, then yes
[03:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin: Complaining? About what? :-)
[03:21] <wil__> pero no ha nadie ke able español
[03:21] <gartral1> stdin: its the windows version of UT-04, and it doesnt want too work...
[03:21] <wil__> uuuuuuummmmmmmmm
[03:22] <gartral1> stdin: the linux installer compleltly locks the drive...
[03:22] <stdin> gartral1: for windows applications, use wine
[03:23] <stdin> Sp0tKubuntu: about the missing gpg key
[03:23] <kaddi> wil__ hablo un poco espanol, pero aqui solamente se debe hablar el ingles. si necessita ayuda en esponal por favor dirige se por los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es
[03:23] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin: ahh
[03:24] <gartral1> stdin: what do you think were having trouble with
[03:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin: Should i do more than the 2 steps in the guide? Maybe get some packets+
[03:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> ?
[03:25] <cbwcjw2> !es
[03:25] <gartral1> we have not been able too get this game too load, weve tryed just about everything, comeon, theres got too be something
[03:26] <stdin> gartral1: wine help is in #winehq
[03:26] <gartral1> >.<
[03:27] <gartral1> stdin: ide really wrather have the linux one running
[03:27] <gartral1> what more can i ask you for, all i need is name of the base package too get the gnome components installed
[03:28] <jimdb> sudo apt-get install gnome-desktop?
[03:28] <gartral1> without using the command line?
[03:28] <stdin> gartral1: open Adept or Synaptic and install the "ubuntu-desktop" package
[03:28] <jimdb> gksu synaptic and then find gnome-desktop.  mark it and then apply.
[03:29] <stdin> jimdb: it's "ubuntu-desktop"
[03:29] <jimdb> gksu synaptic and then find ubuntu-desktop.  mark it and then apply.
[03:29] <gartral1> from KDE? wont that overwright KDE completly?
[03:29] <stdin> no
[03:29] <jimdb> alt+f2 does the same thing (launches the run window) as win+r under windows
[03:29] <stdin> it'll install both Gnome but leave KDE
[03:30] <jimdb> you can have multiple desktops installed and they won't interfere with one another.
[03:30] <stdin> just install the ubuntu-desktop package and you can choose which to login to
[03:30] <gartral1> you relise, im not the one doing this, Brandon_X is
[03:30] <stdin> gartral1: but you're the one asking questions
[03:31] <gartral1> right, Brandon_X is completly new too linux, which is why i was wondering how too do this without a command line
[03:31] <jimdb> i believe that installing ubuntu-desktop will change the splash screens tho
[03:32] <stdin> from KDE, KMenu -> System -> Adept Manager, search for "ubuntu-desktop" and choose to install
[03:33] <wil_> español
[03:33] <wil_> alguien
[03:33] <kaddi> !es | wil_
[03:34] <gartral1> wil_ this is an english channel...
[03:34] <Brandon_X> lol
[03:35] <harry__> hello
[03:35] <kaddi> hi :)
[03:35] <harry_haha> Good Day guys I am harry this is my first time using IRC :)
[03:36] <harry_haha> I am excited my first experience using Linux
[03:36] <harry_haha> i like it its great
[03:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> stdin:  It seems like no matter what i do, it still lagg
[03:37] <kaddi> wb harry ;)
[03:37] <harry_haha> thanks mate kaddi
[03:40] <jimdb> a commercial dvd is lagging?  or a user made dvd is lagging?  or both?  do you have the proper video drivers installed for your video card?
[03:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Me?
[03:41] <jimdb> yes
[03:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Its a homemade, from a original, BUT, original, same problem
[03:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> I think i have the right driver for my stuff? Dont know for a fact
[03:42] <jimdb> put a commercial dvd in and tell us if that plays back with or without lag.
[03:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have just told u
[03:43] <gartral1> thank you\
[03:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> it does it all time, alle DVD
[03:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> all*
[03:43] <jimdb> so it plays back commercial encrypted dvds then.
[03:43] <jimdb> what motherboard?
[03:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> When i play the same DVD on my stationary DVD, it works fine
[03:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, Santa Rosa, laptop
[03:44] <jimdb> do you know which chipset?
[03:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> Its a MSI PR200
[03:44] <jimdb> ati, intel, nvidia, etc
[03:44] <PSiL0> hmmm, I've been messing around with appearance (system settings), and then switched back to defaults.  Now, whenever I'm using dolphin, a small info box pops up when hovering over any button on the toolbar.  I made I turned off the window button tooltips
[03:44] <cbwcjw2> Has anybody used RealVNC Server?
[03:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> Can go chek
[03:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> Its Intel chipset
[03:44] <PSiL0> This info box is really annoying
[03:45] <jimdb> which desktop are you running?  kde or gnome?
[03:45] <PSiL0> kde 4.2.0
[03:45] <jimdb> was asking spotkubuntu
[03:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: This machine: http://global.msi.eu/index.php?func=prodtmpspec&maincat_no=135&cat2_no=270&cat3_no=&prod_no=1208#menu
[03:46] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: KDE
[03:46] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: K-buntu :-)
[03:46] <jimdb> i looked it up alerady
[03:46] <jimdb> already*
[03:46] <khalidmian> looking for divx solution for kubuntu
[03:47] <jimdb> do you also have compiz running?
[03:47] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Not sure, how do i check?
[03:48] <jimdb> run system monitor and see if it lists compiz.
[03:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: I dont think i have, its a part of KDE 4.2 right?
[03:48] <jimdb> not by default, no
[03:48] <jimdb> do you know how to turn off desktop effects under kde 4.2?
[03:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, i dont have KDE 4.2 but 4.1
[03:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> Not for sure no
[03:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i go chek, system settings, desktop?
[03:48] <cbwcjw2> Compiz is not part of KDE
[03:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok
[03:50] <Sp0tKubuntu> System settings, desktop effect, right? No compiz there at all
[03:50] <jimdb> i started with gnome then switched to kde.  i was loading compiz --replace in sessions under gnome.  that carried over to my kde 4 when i switched desktops.  so though it wouldn't be a problem for a clean install i can be a problem for those switching.
[03:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> Can it have something to do with Open GL options??
[03:51] <jimdb> under system setting then desktop under the general tab uncheck the "enable desktop effects".
[03:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahhh
[03:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> That one?
[03:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> Done
[03:51] <foozlebamboozle> Uhum my GL screensavers crash the system kde 4.2
[03:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> Testing again then
[03:52] <jimdb> see if that makes a difference.  and test with commercial dvds for the time being.  if you can get them to play back without lag then you can work on the homemade ones later.
[03:53] <jimdb> yeah, lots of bugs still in kde 4.2.  switching the scaling method for wallpapers and then attempting to switch back (for me) it causes kde to crash.
[03:53] <jimdb> and my version of kde 4.2 doesn't have screensavers.  just blank.  i've been looking for a way to add them.
[03:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Also lagg
[03:54] <foozlebamboozle> jimdb: apt-cache search kde
[03:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Original Dual DVD
[03:55] <jimdb> if you enable desktop effects do they work?
[03:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Talking to me?
[03:55] <jimdb> yes
[03:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Trying
[03:56] <jimdb> i'm trying to determine if your video drivers are the issue, which they most likely are.  your motherboard is modern (core 2 duo), so it should handle anything thrown at it.  but if the drivers for the video suck then you'll have issues such as that.
[03:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: No matter what i do, LAG!
[03:57] <jimdb> you get lag with desktop effects loaded?
[03:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Boring! then i cant do anything? :-(
[03:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: yes, while playing original DVD
[03:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> And homemade copy
[03:58] <jimdb> i'm testing not dvd playback
[03:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Same crap :-(
[03:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh
[03:58] <jimdb> i just need to know if desktop effects owrk
[03:58] <jimdb> turn on wobbly windows and tell me if the windows wobble wh en you move them.
[03:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Seems like it? Not sure what you mean?
[03:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> 2sec
[03:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: wobble windows?
[04:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> wobbly*
[04:00] <jimdb> under system settings, under desktop, then under "all effects" you should be able to scroll the list and find the plugin called wobbly windows.
[04:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh
[04:00] <jimdb> check that box and click apply.
[04:00] <jimdb> then grab a window's title bar and move it around the screen.  if it wobbles as you move it then it works.
[04:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thay become wobbly perfectly
[04:01] <jimdb> that tells me that your 3d accelerated drivers are working.
[04:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: I see
[04:02] <jimdb> under the advanced tab, what does it say for compositing type.
[04:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Advance tab, in where?
[04:03] <jimdb> under system settings, desktop, advanced.
[04:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> Wobbly window or?
[04:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ah
[04:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, 2sec
[04:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> Type of composite: OpenGL
[04:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> in there?
[04:04] <jimdb> yes, there
[04:04] <jimdb> and what does it say for opengl mode?
[04:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> Open GL Condition?
[04:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> texture from mipmap
[04:05] <jimdb> under 4.2 it is called "opengl mode"
[04:05] <jimdb> enable direct rendering checked?
[04:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> yes
[04:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> No
[04:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> Should it be?
[04:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> X Server restarts if i change
[04:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Put direct rendering on?
[04:06] <jimdb> i have it on,turn it on.
[04:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> VSync?
[04:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> ON/OFF?
[04:07] <jimdb> did you test this with "enable desktop effects" unchecked?
[04:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Test what? The moving windows, or DVD playback?
[04:07] <jimdb> i have vsync on
[04:07] <qcjn> what is katapult, is it like alt + F2 or avant window manager
[04:07] <jimdb> dvd playback with desktop effects unchecked.
[04:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> Yeah, lagging
[04:08] <jimdb> what program are you using to playback your dvd?
[04:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> VLC
[04:08] <jimdb> how does it play back an avi file?
[04:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Have tryed others, same problem
[04:08] <jimdb> such as a divx movie?
[04:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Havent got any avi, but mov, same crap :-(
[04:09] <jimdb> is the .mov file a clip or a full movie?
[04:09] <jimdb> and .mov are old apple quicktime.
[04:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Its a movie, of pictures, 30 fps
[04:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> I know, its a windows made movie, homemade
[04:09] <jimdb> stored on a HDD or dvd?
[04:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Homerecordings
[04:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Same thing
[04:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> No matter where i play from, lag
[04:10] <jimdb> i'm trying to find a file such as a divx movie that is stored on some other media than a dvd to test playback to see if it lags.
[04:10] <olskolirc> hey guys how come I can't edit my menu?  and what is the command to update my menus?
[04:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> No matter what i play
[04:10] <jimdb> even from a file on your hdd?
[04:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: yes, i made a backup of DVD, and played it, lags
[04:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> 5400 rpm harddrive
[04:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> In Vista, on same machine, 2Gb less, play DVD PERFECTLY!
[04:12] <jimdb> my thoughts are this.  boot from a kde live cd and try to play back some media such as a file and tell me if it plays.
[04:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Ok, i try that then, be back ASAP
[04:13] <jimdb> no doubt your's is a weird issue.  i've never seen it before.  i've set up linux on 20+ computers and never had that issue.
[04:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> Roger?
[04:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> Strange, i have seen some ppl having same problems, but not solutions
[04:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> But BRB
[04:14] <cbwcjw> Is there any eay way to make it so Kopete only shows online contacts?
[04:16] <stdin> cbwcjw: (un)click the "Show All" button
[04:16] <cbwcjw> stdin: You are awesome. Thanks
[04:28] <etfb> Firefox keeps shutting down - when I run it from the console, it just says "Aborted".  How do I debug that?  (Preferably without using gdb; I'm looking for higher level diagnostics.)
[04:29] <DaSkreech> etfb: run it in safe mode
[04:29] <ubuntu_> jimdb: Still here? Its me, Sp0tKubuntu, it dosent work on the live CD eighter
[04:30] <etfb> DaSkreech: Tried that; it still happens.  You attempt to open a page in a new tab and WHAM.
[04:30] <DaSkreech> What's the sequence that makes it collapse ?
[04:30] <etfb> DaSkreech: At this stage I suspect something fundamental to Qt in KDE4.2
[04:31] <etfb> DaSkreech: Follow a link, Ctrl+clicking to make it open in a new tab.  It starts loading but before it renders it shuts down Firefox completely.
[04:31] <DaSkreech> Not sure how since Firefox doesn't care about KDE 4.2
[04:31] <DaSkreech> What happens if you middle click ?
[04:31] <etfb> DaSkreech: No, but it still uses windows and UI controls, and if it's doing something mildly suspicious, it could cause problems.
[04:32] <ubuntu_> jimdb: Did you leave?
[04:32] <jimdb> ubuntu_ you haven't logged back into your install yet?
[04:32] <ubuntu_> jimdb: No
[04:32] <DaSkreech> Yeah but it's Firefox that's aborting
[04:32] <ubuntu_> jimdb: Im on the live session user pt
[04:33] <jimdb> do so, then look at your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see if anywhere in there there's a line that says DRI = false (or something like that)...or have you already looked?
[04:33] <etfb> DaSkreech: Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.  Opening a bunch of tabs at onces crashes too, so it's not the kind of clicking that's doing it.
[04:33] <ubuntu_> jimdb: Go back to my install, from the live session?
[04:34] <DaSkreech> etfb: Just trying to figure out if it's the tabs that's making it crash
[04:34] <jimdb> yes.  i am just looking at web pages related to your problem.  so, you may have tied some of this already.
[04:35] <etfb> Ah, frak it.  I'll purge and reinstall.  I've got all my bookmarks in FoxMarks, so it won't lose anything much.
[04:35] <etfb> Will apt-get remove --purge foo get rid of all associated .foo config files, or do I need to do that manually?
[04:35] <ubuntu_> jimdb: Ill be back soon then
[04:36] <DaSkreech> etfb: Purging won't make you lose your bookmarks or plugins
[04:36] <etfb> DaSkreech: Hmmm... I'll try opening in a new window (laptop mousepad doesn't have middle click, so I didn't know that's what it did)
[04:36] <DaSkreech> You can just close firefox and then mv ~/.mozilla ~/mozillatest
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Then restart firefox
[04:37] <DaSkreech> Though i'm guessing the issue may be you don't have the gtk-qt engine installed
[04:38] <etfb> DaSkreech: It worked before about midday yesterday.
[04:39] <etfb> DaSkreech: You were right, tho - gtk-qt-engine-kde4 wasn't installed.
[04:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Back
[04:40] <jimdb> http://forums.remote-exploit.org/showthread.php?t=12227
[04:41] <etfb> DaSkreech: gtk-qt-engine was though (or at least it is after I installed g-q-e-kde4, but I didn't check before doing that)... and it's still happening, so that's not the immediate cause
[04:41] <jimdb> at the bottom is a line by someone essentially describing your problem.
[04:41] <jimdb> http://forlong.blogage.de/entries/pages/Compiz-Check
[04:41] <jimdb> i used compiz-check to resolve some issues but it was a while ago.  frankly I have no idea where they are on that older bug
[04:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: i lost you, sorry?
[04:42] <jimdb> your problem is that you can't play back video.
[04:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Im in the file you told me to
[04:42] <jimdb> it has nothing to do with your dvd player, codec, etc
[04:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: ? No?
[04:43] <jimdb> just search that file for DRI and see if it says that it has been disable in some way
[04:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Cant see it anywhere?
[04:43] <jimdb> it will say something like DRI = off, DRI=false, etc
[04:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> Search for DRI, nothing
[04:44] <jimdb> near the top of the file does it say  load "DRI" anywhere?
[04:44] <Sp0tKubuntu> Just i sec, ill paste it
[04:44] <jimdb> don't paste in here
[04:45] <jimdb> !pastebin
[04:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: i know: http://pastebin.com/m544f3a28
[04:45] <Sp0tKubuntu> ;-)
[04:45] <jimdb> http://forums.remote-exploit.org/showthread.php?t=12227
[04:46] <jimdb> read that web page near the bottom
[04:46] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok
[04:47] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Not sure were to read?
[04:47] <jimdb> is your ubuntu install a wubi install or a wipe of vista and fresh install?
[04:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Do i understand it correct if its not to fix?
[04:48] <jimdb> it says:  Our card (x3100 on intel 965 chipset) is blacklisted cause with compiz enabled they couldnt enable hardware video acceleration which resulted in poor or even no video playback. But I was able to use compiz normally on ubuntu (apart from being unable to watch movies).
[04:48] <jimdb> that's the part of the page i was pointing out.
[04:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> My Kubuntu install, is new, deleted all things, and started all over
[04:48] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh sorry
[04:49] <jimdb> they say there was a bug that caused that issue, but it was supposed to be resolved in an earlier release of ubuntu (kubuntu as well).  but sometimes those problems crop back up.
[04:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: all in all, no DVD playback before its fixed in next release in like 6 month? :-(
[04:50] <Sp0tKubuntu> IF its fixed at all :-(
[04:50] <jimdb> what is your commitment to kubuntu so far?  everything moved over or are you just beginning?
[04:50] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have only linux on this machine if thats what you mean?
[04:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> I like it alot, and want to use it for all things, also playing DVD's :-)
[04:51] <DaSkreech> !dvd
[04:51] <jimdb> i asked that question because if you just started then you won't mind wiping and starting over.
[04:51] <jimdb> start over with 32bit ubuntu and see if your video plays back.  try with an older version such as hardy rather than intripid.
[04:52] <jimdb> that'll give you an older kernel
[04:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: If i do that, should i delete home as well? .-(
[04:52] <jimdb> it will also use compiz instead of KDE's compisiting manager.
[04:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> NOOO!
[04:52] <jimdb> as a test, not as a solution.
[04:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> NEVER! I have tryed Ubuntu, and specially 8.04, DOSENT work at all
[04:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> REALLY sux at this machine
[04:53] <jimdb> i'm not saying use it.  i'm saying try to find out, using the older version, if video playback works or not.
[04:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> Trust me, i gave it over one month, and then VISTA :-D
[04:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh.. To much work for me i think, i got my desk and things set up as i like, dont like to start ALL over
[04:54] <jimdb> if you won't go that far back then wipe and start with 32bit kubuntu.  add nothing new and play back a media file.
[04:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> ./ i dont care about,but my /home .-/
[04:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: If i do that, it restores my /home, and settings.
[04:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i have to KILL home to
[04:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-(
[04:55] <jimdb> i read a few pages about similar problems and they seem to indicate the chipset.  i don't have a computer based on that chipset in order to test with.
[04:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats also ok, but it sux for me1:-/
[04:56] <jimdb> i have about 10-15 laptops around here but none with that configuration.
[04:56] <Sp0tKubuntu> I will not help that i just clear /?
[04:56] <Sp0tKubuntu> re-mount home
[04:57] <jimdb> there are guides that show you how to move your home to a seperate partition.
[04:57] <jimdb> they apply to kubuntu and ubuntu alike
[04:57] <jimdb> www.ubuntu-unleashed.com has a guide
[04:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have home at its own
[04:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have 3 partitions, /, /home, /swap
[04:58] <jimdb> if you already have it done then yeah, clear your / and try again.  but don't zap the partition with your home
[04:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> One harddrive
[04:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dont zap home? zap=format?
[04:58] <jimdb> zap=format/erase/delete, etc
[04:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok :-)
[04:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> I format only /
[04:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Not even swap, that is not an issue i guess?
[04:59] <jimdb> i would just test with a clean install wthout adding anything.  i know ubuntu better than kubuntu and i know it uses compiz.
[04:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe "zap" that to?
[05:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh, u want me to install clean Ubuntu, and not Kubuntu, but dont mount my /home then, just leave it to i install Kubuntu again? Or?
[05:00] <jimdb> don't do anything y ou aren't comfortable with.  i am not trying to encourage you to go 32 bit.  i'm just saying that in order to figure this out  you will have to try different things.
[05:01] <jimdb> a 32bit install that's clean then try playback.
[05:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have 32 bit in today, change to 64 bit today :-)
[05:01] <jimdb> and ensure that a compositing manager isn't neabled.
[05:01] <Sp0tKubuntu> Same problem before
[05:01] <jimdb> enabled*
[05:02] <Sp0tKubuntu> But, where do i see if its enabled? I had compiz, but that was BEFORE i reformatted ALL of the disk
[05:02] <jimdb> compiz isn't enabled by default in kubuntu
[05:02] <jimdb> kubuntu uses it's own compositing manager.
[05:02] <DaSkreech> !compiz
[05:03] <jimdb> you don't want nor need both.
[05:03] <DaSkreech> You may want both
[05:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i got it, an enabled it, but guess its not there anymore then, i reformatted the hole disc and reinstalled
[05:03] <DaSkreech> Certainly don't need both
[05:03] <jimdb> you need neither to have kubuntu work.
[05:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Maybe theres the problems is, in kubuntus "compiz"
[05:04] <jimdb> to test, you should ensure neither are working.
[05:04] <jimdb> it says:  Our card (x3100 on intel 965 chipset) is blacklisted cause with compiz enabled they couldnt enable hardware video acceleration which resulted in poor or even no video playback. But I was able to use compiz normally on ubuntu (apart from being unable to watch movies).
[05:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> It is gone, i cant find it anuwhere
[05:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> anywhere*
[05:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm
[05:05] <DaSkreech> There is no "kubuntu's" compiz
[05:05] <jimdb> what that line says is that they knew of a problem with the 965 chipset where compiz type application was enabled and video wouldn't play back.  if you can find a way to get kubuntu working without a compositiong manager then try
[05:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> Iknow, used ubuntus
[05:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, is that possible at all?
[05:06] <jimdb> disable desktop effects and ensure compiz isn't loading and reboot, then try again.  that's about all i can suggest wtihout actually having the computer in front of me to work through the issues.
[05:06] <etfb> DaSkreech: I just renamed .mozilla, and FF is still randomly shutting down.  About to try purge-and-reinstall
[05:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Did u see my past before?
[05:07] <jimdb> i looked at your pastebin page
[05:07] <jimdb> it held no information.
[05:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> jimdb: Ok, thanks ALOT for all of your help :-)
[05:07] <jimdb> it was of no use
[05:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> I se
[05:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> see*
[05:07] <jimdb> the key here spotkubuntu, is to ensure that you have NO compositing manager in use.
[05:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> But it was the right stuff i pasted?
[05:07] <jimdb> then try playback.
[05:08] <jimdb> what you posted was fine
[05:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, ill try to see if i can find out of it :-) Thanks again
[05:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> ok :-)
[05:08] <jimdb> it just wasn't of use.  everything auto-configured, etc.
[05:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Yeah, thought sp
[05:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> so*
[05:09] <jimdb> but your problem has nothign to do with dvd playback.
[05:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> But thanks anyways :-) Hope i can come back with the solution to help others
[05:09] <jimdb> this is evidenced because you can't play back an movie file from your hard drive.
[05:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Chipset related
[05:10] <jimdb> an older version of ubuntu/kubuntu won't have that stuff all auto-configured i'd bet.
[05:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe Kubuntu 8.04 then
[05:10] <jimdb> it'd have an /etc/X11/xorg.conf file that actually has something you could read.
[05:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> Wont go Ubuntu :-D
[05:10] <jimdb> i didn't suggest going back to stay there.
[05:11] <jimdb> i suggested going back because it had an older kernel
[05:11] <jimdb> and just as a test.
[05:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> I know :-) But if that works, thats fine :-)
[05:11] <jimdb> if it worked under the older verison then the problem is with the newer version of kubuntu.
[05:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i try 8.04, but should it be 32 bit or 64 bit? Want to use my RAM fully
[05:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Yes
[05:12] <jimdb> i've only seen a similar problem to this on a very small motherboard used generally in car computers.  video playback just wouldn't work.
[05:12] <jimdb> you are testing, so how much ram you have isn't at issue.
[05:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Should not be a problem playing in 1280x800? (Screens resolution)
[05:12] <jimdb> and how much ram is set aside for your video on that laptop?
[05:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats right
[05:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i think, if it works, then i have to reinstall again if i install 32 bit, and want 64
[05:13] <jimdb> if it works under 32 bit via the older verison then install with 64bit with the older version.
[05:13] <jimdb> and test again.
[05:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> But what the heck
[05:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-)
[05:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Why not start with the older 64 bit version?
[05:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i save one reinstall
[05:14] <jimdb> be systemmatic.
[05:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, first the old 32 bit, and then the old 64 bit, and then the new 32 bit, and then the new 64 bit? :D
[05:17] <etfb> Anyone using KVPNC?  It doesn't appear to know how to disconnect any more.  I have to use xkill to make it disconnect.
[05:19] <etfb> What's the "correct" way in Kubuntu to connect to a VPN (Virtual Private Network)?  I get the feeling that KVpnc is abandonware, or at least isn't maintained by anyone who cares about integration and presentation.  Is there something better now?
[05:27] <jepong> hello... im having problem with kubuntu login screen... its not maximize on my msi wind
[05:27] <DaSkreech> What resolution is it running at?
[05:28] <jepong> msi wind supposedly 1024x600
[05:28] <jepong> but the login screen seems smaller than that
[05:29] <jepong> im just new in kde after being using gnome for a year
[05:30] <jepong> left and right of the login screen show part of the default wallpaper
[05:30] <DaSkreech> Does the screen after login fit correctly?
[05:30] <jepong> yes
[05:30] <jepong> no problem with the desktop
[05:31] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[05:31] <DaSkreech> How much of the screen is shown on either side ?
[05:32] <jepong> hmmm... let say half of an inch?
[05:33] <DaSkreech> Hmm :-/
[05:34] <DaSkreech> I'm not even sure how to address that I dont know where in the stack that would fall
[05:35] <jepong> i have no idea either... hehehehe
[05:35] <jepong> anyway... what matters is i love kde 4.2
[05:36] <jepong> what should i so this can be addresssed on jaunty?
[05:37] <DaSkreech> jepong: file a bug on launchpad
[05:39] <jepong> ok... thanks
[05:42] <jepong> what the link for the launchpad? same as ubuntus?
[05:43] <DaSkreech> !bug
[05:43] <DaSkreech> Yep
[05:44] <jepong> thank you... i thought there was diffrent site for that. thanks again
[05:45] <DaSkreech> Sure
[06:56] <jepong> is there an easiest way to mount my ipod nano to amaroK? thanks
[07:06] <d-tech> elmer's
[07:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> When installing Kubuntu, if i choose a / and a /swap, and a /home, will settings be stored in user, if i make a /usr?
[07:23] <DaSkreech> User settings will be in /home/username system wide settings will be in /etc
[07:24] <Sp0tKubuntu> DaSkreech: Ok :-)
[07:24] <DaSkreech>  /etc must be on the same partition as /
[07:25]  * stdin teaches DaSkreech about '//' in IRC
[07:25] <stdin> /etc
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Does it really annoy you that much?
[07:26] <Sp0tKubuntu> Now i have my /home for storage, but i dont like there is alot of backup files laying around in there, what should i name my store so its not a part of the system were settings are stored?
[07:26] <stdin> DaSkreech: no, not at all
[07:26] <DaSkreech> Your "store" ?
[07:27] <Sp0tKubuntu> Yes, for my own files, dont want system files in there
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Your own files are in /home/username
[07:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have /home on 80gb ca as it is now, and i want to make /home smaller, only for settings gettings stored, and then i want to make another for my own stuff, dls and so on
[07:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> No, there are hidden files in there
[07:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> Not only MY files, files i made
[07:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> Understand where im going?
[07:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> Want to use /home for storing settings only, from users, and then another partition for storage
[07:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> Storage for pictures, mp3, DVD, etc
[07:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> Just another filesystem than ext3? Or is that not the solution
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Sp0tKubuntu: those hidden files keep your settings You can remove them but then you have to reconfigure every application every single time you open it
[07:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> I think you misunderstand me
[07:32] <DaSkreech> If you want to share something like Muic amongst everyone that's what /usr/share is for
[07:33] <DaSkreech> You want to have a like a 500 meg ~ for settings and all your stuff elsewhere ?
[07:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> I want 4 partitions insted of 3 only, a root, a home, a swap, and then one to my stuff, but wat to call that so its not a part of the system?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> /mnt/something works
[07:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> Not sharing
[07:33] <DaSkreech> then make it so that only you can access it and it mounts with rights for you
[07:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> That will say, i just choose /mnt? Can i rename it later then?
[07:33] <DaSkreech> then do a lot of messing around in ~ and /usr
[07:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> So its not called /mnt?
[07:34] <DaSkreech> /mnt is where you mount file systems that you expect to be there the entire time the computer is on
[07:34] <DaSkreech> so you would create sub directories and mount the filesystems under there
[07:34] <p_quarles> Sp0tKubuntu: you can mount it wherever you like, really, as long as its not interfering with something else; /mnt is just specifically for that purpose
[07:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, but i have to be mounted in something under root?
[07:36] <yao_ziyuan> would like to know you guys' strategy on handling gtk+/gnome/mozilla apps in kde4. do you use gtk-qt-engine to make them look like kde (but firefox tabs would look ugly), or use a cross-DE style like QtCurve or BlueCurve, or use a separate gtk style from your current kde theme, and which gtk style is that?
[07:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> because /mnt is in /root
[07:36] <DaSkreech> Yeah but he's going to have to make sure that permissions and masks are set properly then change all the default paths for $HOME for data there while making sure that the paths for $HOME for settings stay at /home/username
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Which may be possible but that is a lot of headache
[07:37] <p_quarles> Sp0tKubuntu: I don't see how you could mount it in a directory outside of /
[07:37] <yao_ziyuan> yet another possibility is to use gtk-qt-engine and a custom firefox theme that draws a custom firefox tab appearance
[07:37] <Sp0tKubuntu> No, i see, my bad
[07:37] <DaSkreech> Either that or just add the created mount to the sidebar in KDE and click on it everytime you need to save something
[07:37] <Sp0tKubuntu> I must make a / first, then /swap, and so /home, and then a /mnt
[07:38] <DaSkreech> no you make a 4th partition then make a /mnt/something
[07:39] <DaSkreech> for eg. /mnt/data
[07:39] <Sp0tKubuntu> Yeah, so i have 4 partitions
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Right
[07:40] <DaSkreech> then a headache
[07:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> ./, /swap, /home /mnt/spot
[07:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-D
[07:40] <DaSkreech> Right
[07:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> Just trying to get around with DVD Playback, chipset bug :-/
[07:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> Try to go back to 8.04, live cd, and if that dosent work, then i try ubuntu
[07:55] <ct529> hi everybody .... I have some serious difficulties with skim/scim on 810 .... anyone who can help?
[07:55] <ct529> !skim
[07:55] <stdin> !scim
[07:55] <ct529> !scim
[07:56] <ct529> stdin: no I have read the wiki, does not solve the problem
[07:57] <stdin> maybe #scim can help
[07:58] <ct529> I think it is "Kubuntu last version" related because it worked well on previous versions ....
[07:59] <syockit> ct529: got scim daemon running?
[08:00] <ct529> syockit: yep ....
[08:00] <syockit> what's your "im-switch -c" set to?
[08:01] <ct529> syockit: works well in externally installed applications .... for example, I use eclipse last version, installed manually. There scim/skim works fine. It does NOT work in the desktop applications .... kmail, kate, opeoffice .... :(
[08:01] <ct529> syockit: im-switch -z all_ALL -s scim-bridge
[08:01] <syockit> for some reason I too find that scim-bridge doesn't work on those apps
[08:02] <ct529> syockit: shall I choose skim? what do you use? I followed the wiki, sorry.
[08:02] <syockit> If I uninstall bridge, then kate/openoffice runs fine, so does opera, but no more on eclipse/firefox
[08:02] <syockit> Even if you choose skim, it will select scim-bridge if detects one
[08:03] <syockit> skim goes by the order of: scim-bridge > scim > none(xim)
[08:03] <syockit> So I ended up installing uim
[08:04] <ct529> syockit: does uim work well?
[08:04] <syockit> 今のところ、そうですね
[08:04] <syockit> well, it works it seems
[08:04] <ct529> syockit: :)
[08:04] <ct529> wait
[08:05] <syockit> oh, it doesn't work on firefox :((
[08:06] <syockit> Maybe because I haven't installed uim-gtk2.0
[08:07] <ct529> syockit: nothing .... how do you install / configure uim?
[08:08] <syockit> I just sudo aptitude install uim uim-qt uim-applet-kde
[08:08] <syockit> RIght now I'm trying to make it work correctly
[08:09] <ct529> syockit: :) but it looked like working!
[08:09] <ct529> syockit: wait .... restarting X again
[08:12] <ct529> syockit: nothing .... that is bad ....
[08:12] <ct529> syockit: I thought your uim was working fine ....
[08:12] <syockit> Okay, I've tested on almost everything
[08:12] <ct529> syockit: what is missing?
[08:12] <syockit> after installing uim-gtk2.0,
[08:13] <syockit> works in the following: kate, opera, firefox, eclipse (ganymede), yakuake, plasma
[08:13] <syockit> Yay! One solution for all!! Install your own copy of uim now
[08:13] <ct529> syockit: does not work in ....
[08:14] <ct529> syockit: does it work fine in everything including kmail?
[08:14] <ct529> syockit: and skype?
[08:14] <syockit> sorry, I don't have kmail. nor skype
[08:14] <syockit> Ah, I remember skype having some glitches with input methods... but seeing it works on opera, I suppose it will work on skype
[08:15] <ct529> syockit: did you uninstall scim before installing uim?
[08:15] <syockit> Ah, forgot to mention that after installing, you have to run uim-pref-qt, do some settings, then im-switch -c
[08:15] <ct529> syockit: thanks
[08:15] <syockit> and select uim-toolbar-qt. yes, I uninstalled scim
[08:16] <syockit> Oh, by the way, if you don't like floating toolbar, you can always use uim-systray
[08:16] <syockit> gtk isn't that scary, you know
[08:17] <ct529> syockit: it does not let me install uim-qt
[08:17] <syockit> That's strange?
[08:18] <ct529> uim-applet-kde:
[08:18] <ct529>  Depends: uim-qt but it is not going to be installed
[08:18] <ct529> why?
[08:18] <syockit> I'm starting to suspect uim-qt build on intrepid failed
[08:18] <ct529> syockit: what do you mean?
[08:20] <syockit> I think uim-qt doesn't exist on intrepid at this point. Try sudo aptitude install uim-qt
[08:21] <ct529> syockit: ther eis something weird going on here
[08:23] <syockit> ct529: I suggest you get jaunty's uim instead. That intrepid version still has a critical kde4 bug
[08:24] <ct529> syockit: how do you do that?
[08:25] <ct529> syockit: are you using jaunty's uim?
[08:25] <ct529> syockit: restartig X
[08:25] <syockit> I'm on jaunty
[08:30] <polishpaul> Hey guys, Can someone give me a hand with laptop? I just put on Kubuntu and i don't see any network settings interface (wired or wireless)? I added dhcp manually to /interfaces but it didn't work
[08:34] <polishpaul> I'm looking in the help and i don't see the KDE Control Center either..?
[08:42] <jstanley> polishpaul: system settings
[08:42] <jstanley> in kde 4 it is called system settings
[08:43] <jstanley> good luck with wireless though
[08:43] <jstanley> i wish i had more luck with it
[08:49] <jstanley> Does anyone know how to use mknod?
[08:49] <jstanley> And/or does anyone know how to find out the major and minor numbers of a hard disk?
[08:50] <jstanley> I have a second hard disk and I'd like to use it, but Kubuntu hasn't made a device file for it
[08:51] <ct529> syockit: nothing ....
[08:51] <jstanley> actually, kubuntu hasn't made a device file for my first hard disk either
[08:51] <syockit> ct529: about installing from jaunty: you have to add the repo in your sources.list
[08:52] <syockit> ct529: then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install uim uim-qt uim-qt3
[08:52] <syockit> ct529: then remove/comment out the jaunty repo in sources.list and do sudo apt-get upgrade again
[08:54] <jstanley> alright i've found my device files. kubuntu seems to think i'm using scsi disks
[08:57] <polishpaul> jstanley, yeah... i finally got the wired working, but i see no options for wireless?
[08:57] <aldo> HOLA
[08:58] <aldo> hi
[08:58] <jstanley> polishpaul: do you have a little globe in the try?
[08:58] <jstanley> hi aldo
[08:58] <jstanley> polishpaul: i meant 'tray'
[08:58] <jstanley> if so, try right-clicking it and see if there are options for wireless
[08:58] <jstanley> polishpaul: what wireless card do you have?
[08:59] <jstanley> if it's broadcom then count yourself lucky that you can get wired
[08:59] <aldo> excusem i have one question
[08:59] <jstanley> yes?
[09:00] <aldo> do you know how i can make a network between two kubuntu
[09:00] <jstanley> aldo: do you have a crossover cable?
[09:00] <aldo> cpu-laptop
[09:00] <polishpaul> its an intel i believe - i had it working wtih ubuntu and the like... found the globe .. checking...
[09:00] <aldo> ethernet
[09:01] <jstanley> aldo: if both computers have ethernet ports, then you should be able to stick a crossover cable between the two and be ready to go
[09:01] <aldo> i just wanna share my date folder
[09:01] <jstanley> i've never used a crossover cable, so i can't say how easy it'll be
[09:01] <jstanley> aldo: are they already on a lan?
[09:02] <aldo> yes i have the computer and the lap top connected by the ethernet cable
[09:02] <ct529> syockit: thanks!
[09:02] <jstanley> aldo: are they connected directly to one another?
[09:03] <aldo> exactly
[09:03] <jstanley> if so, you need a crossover cable. a normal ethernet cable won't work because
[09:03] <polishpaul> dang, can't see my own wireless network :# argh
[09:05] <aldo> ok so i have to change the composition of the cable?
[09:05] <aldo> do you know it?
[09:07] <jstanley> aldo: i don't know how to do it
[09:07] <jstanley> google can probably point you in the right direction
[09:07] <jstanley> but it's easier to buy a ready-made crossover cable
[09:08] <aldo> jstanley: here in mexico is chepear to build it whit an older cable
[09:08] <aldo> thanks very much
[09:08] <jstanley> no problem
[09:09] <aldo> is more difficult but cheaper
[09:09] <jstanley> aldo: i know the theory of converting the cable; you need to swap the send and receive wires of one end of the cable
[09:09] <jstanley> i don't know exactly which wires it is though
[09:10] <jstanley> you just need to make it so that the send line of one machine ends up at the receive line of the other
[09:10] <aldo> i have already found it, thank you very much
[09:10] <aldo> !!
[09:10] <aldo> :jstanley
[09:11] <jstanley> no problem
[09:12] <aldo> excuseme are you helping people all time?
[09:13] <aldo> jstanley
[09:13] <jstanley> no
[09:13] <jstanley> i'm not a regular
[09:13] <aldo> ah ok
[09:13] <jstanley> i only came here to get help with my graphicd
[09:13] <polishpaul> ok.. got the knetwork manager going.. found my w-lan, still nothing... no dhcp offers...
[09:13] <polishpaul> gear icon spinning...
[09:14] <polishpaul> bah! it works..
[09:14] <polishpaul> i guess it just took forever...
[09:14] <jstanley> cool
[09:15] <polishpaul> i feel kinda lost with KDE.. but i think i'm liking what i see...
[09:16] <aldo_> hola
[09:16] <jstanley> hi
[09:17] <aldo_> I want to connect mi lap to my desktop computer by ethernet
[09:17] <aldo> i have the same problem
[09:17] <aldo> jstanley can help you
[09:17] <aldo_> mm
[09:17] <jstanley> what
[09:18] <aldo_> jstanley?
[09:18] <jstanley> ok, just checking that you actually were the same person :P
[09:18] <aldo_> jaja i just kidding
[09:18] <aldo_> sorry
[09:23] <noaXess> hi all
[09:23] <polishpaul> o/
[09:23] <aldo> hi
[09:23] <aldo> hola
[09:23] <aldo> hallo
[09:24] <noaXess> i have a prolem with my firefox 3.0.5, if i upload a pdf file on any webpage, i get a mimetype application/unknown... with konquerror or opera i get application/pdf, have also started ff in safe-mode, no change
[09:24] <noaXess> any idea.. help?
[09:25] <aldo> give right click and then save as
[09:25] <aldo> and you select the folder noaXess
[09:25] <noaXess> aldo: if i upload, not download
[09:26] <noaXess> also if i upload it in my webmail client.. i get (application/unknown
[09:26] <jstanley> noaXess: the server shouldn't be trusting your browsers mime-type anyway...
[09:27] <aldo> noaXess:you most format your computer
[09:27] <aldo> im kidding
[09:27] <noaXess> but, if i do the exact same with konquerror or opera in my kunbuntu, it works fine
[09:27] <noaXess> kubuntu ^
[09:27] <jstanley> there's probably a mime-type file for firefox
[09:27] <jstanley> i don't know where it is though
[09:27] <jstanley> i don't use firefox
[09:28] <jstanley> noaXess: try #firefox
[09:28] <aldo> stanley for real is better konkeror than firefox?
[09:28] <jstanley> in my opinion? yes
[09:28] <aldo> firefox is fastly
[09:29] <aldo> isn't it?
[09:29] <polishpaul> in ADEPT, is there a way to show only installed / not-installed packages?
[09:29] <jstanley> aldo: in my experience firefox is too slow to be usable
[09:29] <noaXess> jstanley: thanks
[09:29] <jstanley> polishpaul: dpkg -l in a terminal will show installed packages
[09:29] <jstanley> noaXess: no problem
[09:30] <polishpaul> but no gui filter?
[09:30] <jstanley> i don't use adept
[09:30] <jstanley> there might be a filter in it
[09:30] <jstanley> kpackage has a filter thing
[09:30] <jstanley> but kpackage is too slow for my liking
[09:30] <aldo> stanley: so what do i most do for getting the konker faster?
[09:31] <jstanley> aldo: if konqueror is slower than firefox then i don't know what's gone wrong
[09:31] <jstanley> if konqueror is slower than firefox then just go with firefox
[09:31] <jstanley> firefox has more features and is better-supported
[09:31] <jstanley> it's a 'better' browser, it's just too slow to be usable for me
[09:32] <aldo> ah ok, i get it, so it depends of the usage of each one
[09:33] <aldo> thanks
[09:33] <jstanley> can anyone remind me how to make an ext3 filesystem?
[09:34] <jstanley> it's something like mke2fs -j, but i can't remember
[09:34] <daedalus_> Hi
[09:34] <jstanley> hi
[09:34] <jstanley> you know how to make an ext3 file system daedalus_?
[09:35] <daedalus_> Where may i find useful motherboard compatibility info ? Gygabyte ssays nothins, nor do the Ubuntu forums
[09:35] <aldo> i know how to do it, but i dont remmeber exactly
[09:35] <jstanley> daedalus_: i think there's an ubuntu hcl
[09:35] <jstanley> maybe try that
[09:35] <daedalus_> hcl ?
[09:35] <jstanley> hardware compatibility list
[09:35] <daedalus_> ok, on the main site thus
[09:35] <jstanley> yeah probably
[09:35] <jstanley> i'd use google though
[09:36] <jstanley> i don't have a web browser atm, so i can't find it for you
[09:36] <daedalus_> already done, it's like gygabyte didn'teven exist
[09:37] <daedalus_> And what do you want to do about ext file system ? You are not wanting to make a new partition with gparted ?
[09:38] <jstanley> i don't trust gui tools with this sort of thing
[09:38] <syockit> mkfs.ext3 should be good enough for default settings
[09:38] <jstanley> and i looked at the man page
[09:38] <jstanley> i was right about -j
[09:38] <jstanley>  hope
[09:38] <jstanley> syockit: does that exist?
[09:38] <jstanley> haha
[09:38] <jstanley> so it does
[09:39] <yaa_> hope so
[09:40] <jstanley> i always thought you had to use mke2fs with some option
[09:40] <jstanley> but i could never remember the option
[09:40] <integer>  Hello all, i have 8.10, while setting screen resolution that went wrong and now, each applications window i run are opening maximised by default and they dont have close, minimize buttons, i tried to reset the resolution but its not happening as original, can any one help me please??
[09:41] <aldo> well see you later guys thank you stanley bye
[09:42] <jstanley> integer: do the windows have title bars?
[09:42] <integer> yes
[09:43] <polishpaul> what's the name of the app that has a small bar on the bottom of your screen with icons ... they enlarge as you mouse over...
[09:43] <integer> but all application window open maximised, without close/minimize buttons on corner
[09:43] <jstanley> polishpaul: avant-window-navigator?
[09:44] <jstanley> integer: are you sure they don't have buttons?
[09:44] <jstanley> it might just be that the picture stretches over the edges of the screen
[09:44] <jstanley> and so they appear to be buttonless
[09:45] <integer> yess that may be the case i think
[09:45] <integer> becase the panel icons also dispersed here
[09:46] <jstanley> integer: your screen probably has buttons for adjusting the vertical/horizontal size
[09:47] <integer> yaa it has
[09:48] <polishpaul_> hi
[09:48] <polishpaul> hi
[09:48] <polishpaul> :)
[09:49] <polishpaul> ok.. no to get my proprietary nvidia drivers to work...
[09:49] <polishpaul> *now
[09:49] <integer> jstanley: but with thats its not possible
[09:50] <polishpaul> umm.. so i log out and.. x dies? should i be able to log in agian?
[09:51] <polishpaul> i[m probably just being impatient
[09:55] <jstanley> polishpaul: proprietary drivers?
[09:55] <jstanley> i had that problem too
[09:55] <jstanley> never fixed it
[09:57] <daedalus_> Well, i found an official ubuntu HCl but with few (empty) entries with outdated chipsets
[09:57] <daedalus_> funny
[09:59] <daedalus_> http://www.ubuntuhcl.org/
[09:59] <daedalus_> among others
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:04] <Orbjinzo> anyone around?
[10:04] <tom_> whats up?
[10:05] <Orbjinzo> know anything about audacious
[10:05] <Orbjinzo> having problem its when i installed it locks when i play something
[10:05] <tom_> ive used it
[10:05] <Orbjinzo> i have tried deleting the file in the config
[10:05] <ct529> syockit: good! it works ....
[10:05] <Orbjinzo> adjusting the sound driver to alsa.
[10:05] <ct529> syockit: thanks for your help
[10:06] <Orbjinzo> and removing and reinstalling it
[10:06] <tom_> everything works but when you play?
[10:06] <Orbjinzo> ya it loads fine
[10:06] <Orbjinzo> just when i load a file
[10:06] <Orbjinzo> or a radio playlist.
[10:06] <tom_> i had a simular prob... had to do with a switch in kmix
[10:07] <tom_> ill poke aroudn and see if i can remember which one
[10:07] <Orbjinzo> alright
[10:07] <ct529> I have another problem here .... anyone using lxde as light weight desktop environment when doing computation intensive tasks? I cannot visualise the icons properly .... and there is an error appearing at login saying that I have either to run xsetting fromgnome or xfce or set the dircetory .gtkrc-2.0 .... I have done all those thinsg but the messag is still there
[10:07] <tom_> Orbjinzo: what kde / kubuntu are you o?
[10:08] <Orbjinzo> 8.04
[10:08] <Orbjinzo> and the kde verison is 3.5.10 if i recal
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> Orbjinzo: by default yes, but 4.1 can be installed on it
[10:11] <Orbjinzo> heh i dont wanna install kde 4.1
[10:12] <tom_> Orbjinzo: are you using the same adio device for recording and playback?
[10:12] <Guest32195> hi
[10:12] <Orbjinzo> yes alsa.
[10:13] <Orbjinzo> whoa
[10:13] <Scott_331> How can I control my fan speed?
[10:13] <Orbjinzo> some how it was set to use my mic as output.
[10:13] <tom_> on my older dell laptop, i had to use oss for reccording. and disable software playthough
[10:13] <tom_> ahhh
[10:13] <Orbjinzo> thats with an mp3 track
[10:13] <Orbjinzo> lets try raido
[10:13] <Orbjinzo> radio
[10:14] <Orbjinzo> ha.
[10:14] <Orbjinzo> got it
[10:15] <Orbjinzo> i was an old xmms user
[10:15] <jstanley> Scott_331: put a variable resistor somewhere on the cable
[10:15] <Orbjinzo> but its aging and had to upgrade.
[10:15] <Scott_331> jstanley: windows manages to control the fans down... but in Ubuntu they constantly run at full speed
[10:16] <jstanley> Scott_331: is it a laptop?
[10:16] <jstanley> did your oem write custom fan control software?
[10:17] <Scott_331> no, desktop
[10:18] <Scott_331> no idea about fan control software
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Scott_331: what motherboard do you have?
[10:20] <Scott_331> Asus M2N-SLI
[10:20] <Scott_331> This one: http://www.eclipsecomputers.com/product.aspx?code=MBA-M2NSLI
[10:22] <Scott_331> Maybe there's a setting in the BIOS
[10:22] <ct529> I have another problem here .... anyone using lxde as light weight desktop environment when doing computation intensive tasks? I cannot visualise the icons properly .... and there is an error appearing at login saying that I have either to run xsetting fromgnome or xfce or set the dircetory .gtkrc-2.0 .... I have done all those thinsg but the messag is still there
[10:23] <jstanley> ct529: #lxde
[10:23] <ct529> jstanley: thanks!
[10:24] <ActionParsnip> bet cool n quiet is disaled in the ios
[10:36] <ct529> jstanley: are you not using kubuntu now?
[10:36] <jstanley> no
[10:36] <jstanley> i have the livecd running
[10:36] <jstanley> but it's not installed yet
[10:37] <GSF1200S> anyone here know anything about hdmi?
[10:37] <ct529> jstanley: is xfce very efficient, compared let's say with lxde? I need an environment for intensive computation
[10:37] <ct529> jstanley: at the moment I use kde for general purpose
[10:37] <jstanley> ct529: i've never heard of lxde, but from what i can see it's lighter than xfce
[10:37] <GSF1200S> lxde is awesome
[10:37] <ActionParsnip> fluxbox is light
[10:37] <ct529> jstanley: why so?
[10:37] <jstanley> but ct529, if you're doing computationally expensive stuff, why use x at all?
[10:37] <jstanley> ct529: xfce has more features
[10:37] <jstanley> and therefore bloat
[10:37] <jstanley> for example, it has a compositing window manager
[10:37] <ct529> GSF1200S: I have tried it but I cannot visualise the icons properly .... and there is an error appearing at login saying that I have either to run xsetting fromgnome or xfce or set the dircetory .gtkrc-2.0 .... I have done all those thinsg but the messag is still there
[10:38] <ct529> jstanley: Oh I see
[10:38] <GSF1200S> arghh.. ct529.. I run lxde on arch.. i cant help you there..
[10:38] <ct529> jstanley: just because some times you have to use ide for some programming
[10:38] <ct529> GSF1200S: arch?
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> ct529: what spec machine is this running on?
[10:39] <GSF1200S> arch linux.. another distro
[10:39] <GSF1200S> ran kde on kubuntu, obviously :)
[10:40] <ct529> GSF1200S: what is arch?
[10:40] <ct529> GSF1200S: I mean what type of distro? tailored for what?
[10:40] <ActionParsnip> ct529: http://www.archlinux.org/
[10:40] <GSF1200S> lightweight, rolling release, no extra crap, no specific DM, uses pacman as a package manager
[10:41] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I have a "mobile ws" where I do testing and so on .... and high spec machines or the grid when I need
[10:41] <GSF1200S> prolly the fastest binary distro.. some people have issues with packages not being downgradeable due to rolling release, but its worked for me...
[10:42] <ActionParsnip> ct529: xfce will not impact much on high spec machines, yu're probably quibbling over a few hundred hz of cpu power
[10:42] <ct529> ActionParsnip: ok ....
[10:42] <ct529> ActionParsnip: what about icewm and lxde?
[10:42] <ct529> GSF1200S: what does it mean "rolling"?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> ct529: about the same
[10:44] <GSF1200S> instead of doing releases like kubuntu, packages are constantly screened by devs and placed into testing.. once the packages are marked stable, they are placed into the core, extra repos.. Basically, you install arch in 2009, and in 2011 its up to date without ever reinstalling...
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> ct529: unless you really get down to which will save you an extra 10hz or so i dont think there's much in it
[10:44] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: sounds like bsd
[10:44] <GSF1200S> yeah
[10:45] <GSF1200S> pretty much, although it doesnt really have ports, and its binary
[10:45] <GSF1200S> if I have what BSD is pegged right
[10:45] <easyfit> hey, sorry for asking since you guys must get this question all the time now, but any idea when kde 4.2 will be considered stable for kubuntu 8.10?
[10:46] <GSF1200S> it has the AUR which allows you to build packages from source, and including this makes the arch repos pretty huge.. its a cool distro overall, prefer gentoo myself
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: you can do that in ubuntu with apt-build
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: i prefer gentoo too
[10:46] <GSF1200S> indeed.. ran ubuntu for 2 years ;)
[10:47] <GSF1200S> never really used apt-build- the repos had all I needed..
[10:47] <GSF1200S> sometimes I need to dip into the AUR for stuff.
[10:47] <GSF1200S> anyone in here know anything about HDMI?
[10:47] <ct529> ActionParsnip: well, also the ram they use is important
[10:48] <GSF1200S> im trying to build a desktop and im trying to pick the right components
[10:48] <ct529> GSF1200S: so it works similar to gentoo
[10:49] <ct529> I have found kubuntu not brilliant for performances .... but it is not optimised .... never tried to recompile tough .... is it complicated?
[10:49] <GSF1200S> well, yes, but the AUR doesnt have the convienience of use flags (youd have to edit the build) and pacman itself is binary (core and extra repos)
[10:50] <ActionParsnip> ct529: they are all super small, i wouldnt sweat it. if you are really interested, install a load of differrent systems and make a note of system useages
[10:50] <GSF1200S> but on the plus side all packages installed through the AUR is installed through pacman, so even the source installs are tracked by the package manager...
[10:51] <syockit> pacman that good?
[10:51] <jstanley> pacman is win
[10:51] <jstanley> i played it in a pub once
[10:51] <syockit> darn, not that one :)
[10:51] <GSF1200S> eh.. nothing is good compared to portage + gentoolkit, but pacman is very good
[10:51] <jstanley> GSF1200S: you used gentoo?
[10:52] <jstanley> did you install from source or from ebuilds?
[10:52] <jstanley> i tried to use gentoo once but it took sooooo long to compile everything
[10:52] <ct529> GSF1200S: what are use flags
[10:52] <GSF1200S> well, i compiled flux
[10:52] <GSF1200S> use flags allow you to control support for options in the things you install
[10:52] <GSF1200S> for example
[10:52] <jstanley> ok
[10:53] <GSF1200S> if you want kde to have hal support, you need to add the hal use flag before emerging..
[10:53] <jstanley> alright
[10:53] <GSF1200S> the kernel only took my lappie about 15 minutes
[10:53] <GSF1200S> but X took about 45
[10:54] <GSF1200S> I imagine KDE would not be fun to install
[10:55] <ct529> GSF1200S: like when you ./configure
[10:55] <GSF1200S> what do you mean?
[10:55] <ct529> how good is kubuntu at recompiling?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> ct529: as good as any distro
[10:55] <ct529> GSF1200S: when you install manually you can do the same with ./configure
[10:55] <GSF1200S> basically portage tracks  a ./configure
[10:55] <GSF1200S> so
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> gotta love emerge :)
[10:55] <ct529> ActionParsnip: well .... more or less ....
[10:56] <GSF1200S> yes, you can install source on kubuntu no prob
[10:56] <ct529> GSF1200S: does it work well with cmake?
[10:56] <GSF1200S> but apt doesnt track it
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> ct529: its the compiler which will be identical for your arch so its as good
[10:56] <GSF1200S> portage does...
[10:56] <ct529> GSF1200S: no, I meant rebuilding deb packages with optimised flags
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> GSF1200S: yeah thats really annoying how apt doesnt keep up
[10:56] <GSF1200S> i dont know.. i havent used cmake
[10:57] <ct529> ActionParsnip: no really .... it depends on CFLAGS settings and so on
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> ct529: yes i know but the compiler is the same unless you compile that first
[10:57] <GSF1200S> thats why gentoos repos are so ungodly large... anything thats source can be tweaked by gentoo devs to work with portage
[10:58] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I do not understand what do you mean .... you do not have to compile the compiler first to optimise compilation .... -march=native for example
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ct529: but as to "how good" it is at compiling,it'll go as fast as any other compile on the same system in the same circumstances
[10:58] <GSF1200S> of course their are certain things that can be installed (and are recommended) as binary, such as OOo
[10:58] <ct529> ActionParsnip: clearly if you recompiled the compiler you would have better compiler's performances
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> ct529: exactly but i assumed you meant with an identical compiler so the test is of the distro and not the compiled compiler
[10:58] <jamesstanley> anyone know how to tell the kubuntu installer that there are hard disks in the computer?
[10:59] <jamesstanley> it doesn't seem to detect any
[10:59] <ct529> ActionParsnip: not really .... if you recompile it with the appropriate flags, on a recompiled kernel it should go faster
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ct529: otherwise the test is moot
[10:59] <GSF1200S> jstanley: install is really easy for gentoo.. you just have to realize whats happening
[10:59] <jamesstanley> i got it to install fine
[10:59] <jamesstanley> it just took forever
[10:59] <ct529> ActionParsnip: same compiler, different flags, can give different speeds
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> ct529: im not contesting that, i'm saying that the stock compiler on identical systems with different distros will perform near identically
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> ct529: which answers your initial question
[11:00] <GSF1200S> jstanley: ahh ok.. its pretty cool though- you learn how linux is installed- that fancy liveCD is merely unpacking a tarball just like you do manually...
[11:00] <ct529> ActionParsnip:.... it depends on the compilation flags .... for example mandriva outperforms most of the others ....
[11:01] <ct529> ActionParsnip: my intial question was about the process of building the package
[11:01] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I never built a deb package before ....
[11:01] <ct529> ActionParsnip: in this case, rebuilt
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> you said: ct529: how good is kubuntu at recompiling?
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> ct529: it compiles well, just like the others
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> ct529: you need to be specific in your question
[11:03] <ct529> ActionParsnip: reformulated question: how good is the process of recompiling a package on kubuntu compared let's say with rpm based distribution or manual configuration? is it very convoluted? is it irksome? is it simple?
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> simple enough
[11:03] <ct529> jamesstanley: have you try parted?
[11:03] <jamesstanley> no
[11:03] <jamesstanley> cfdisk sees both disks
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ct529: apt-build install <something>
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> ct529: it uses deb-src instead of deb repos
[11:04] <ct529> jamesstanley: install qtparted or gparted and then run it .... it should allow you to see the new disk and partition it
[11:05] <ct529> ActionParsnip: interesting .... is it possible to pass flags on?
[11:05] <ct529> ActionParsnip: during the build process ....
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> ct529: not used flags in ubuntu, the sudo dpkg-reconfigure apt-build can specify heavy optomisation/light optomisation/normal optomisation
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> ct529: but otherwise not sure
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> ct529: i use heavy and it makes firefox not drag its ass like an overweight dog with worms (normal install)
[11:07] <ct529> ActionParsnip: thanks .... I will have a go!
[11:07] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I imagine it passes som -O2
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> yeah id imagine
[11:08] <ct529> ActionParsnip: try -march=native  (but you have to install cpuid)
[11:09] <jamesstanley> ct529: it seems ubuntu had mounted the disks; i umounted them and it is working
[11:09] <jamesstanley> now, an important part, if i tell the installer not to format a partition, will it leave all the files intact?
[11:09] <jamesstanley> i need to be sure it won't destroy my /home
[11:09] <ct529> jamesstanley: yes, it should .... but I would back up first
[11:10] <jamesstanley> ok
[11:10] <jamesstanley> i don't actually have anywhere i can back up 30GB of studd to
[11:10] <jamesstanley> *stuff
[11:10] <ct529> jamesstanley: that said I never do it .... but I am good at giving recommendations .... :)
[11:10] <jamesstanley> ok
[11:10] <ct529> jamesstanley: tar -cvjf
[11:10] <jamesstanley> ok
[11:10] <ct529> jamesstanley: should solve you 30Gb problem
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> i have a nihtly backup, its funny when people crythey lost their stuff and dont have a backup
[11:12] <ct529> jamesstanley: yes, I do daily backup ....
[11:12] <ct529> I am not good at doing backup before running parted
[11:13] <ct529> jamesstanley: after you have tar -cvjf, yu should have a 10Gb - 15Gb file that I hope you can store somewhere
[11:13] <ct529> jamesstanley: sometimes even less (I reduced a similar amount down to few GB)
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> i just use a cron'd cp to a usb drive
[11:14] <ct529> ActionParsnip: I use svn, so I can keep the versions
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> ct529: its all music + video so i dont care of versions :)
[11:15] <ct529> ActionParsnip: you are rigth :)
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> plus a child can restore lost data, just cp what was lost
[11:17] <ct529> ActionParsnip: :)
[11:18] <yaa_> NOPE
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> ?
[11:20] <ct529> yaa: nope what?
[11:22] <yaa_> that is the only english word i know))
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hhaha
[11:32] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there guys
[11:32] <cobra-the-joker> Any body know how to change to KWM ?
[11:34] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: kwm>
[11:34] <ct529> ?
[11:34] <cobra-the-joker> when i switched on desktop then switched it off ....it turned to metacity
[11:35] <cobra-the-joker> How can i get KWM back
[11:35] <cobra-the-joker> or the KDE default
[11:37] <Boost> ciao
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> kwin --replace &
[11:37] <cobra-the-joker> ct529 , you know how to switch that ?
[11:38] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip , Ok
[11:38] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip , mmm....so it was kwin ...no kwm :D
[11:40] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: all better?
[11:41] <cobra-the-joker> yeah ....now better ...thanx :D
[11:41] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: kwin sounds like a bit better ....
[11:42] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: metacity?
[11:42] <cobra-the-joker> metacity for gnome only ....doesnt work very well with kde
[11:42] <cobra-the-joker> ct529 , metacity ...default window manager for gnome
[11:42]  * robin0800 Kubuntu Jaunty Alpha 4 Released see http://www.kubuntu.org/
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> !jaunty
[11:43] <cobra-the-joker> dont think they will release something better than ubuntu 7
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> cobra-the-joker: yeah i miss my gibboon
[11:44] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: :)
[11:44] <cobra-the-joker> it was the only linux that was announced in my country ...lol
[11:46] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: ubuntu 7?
[11:46] <cobra-the-joker> yeah
[11:47] <syockit> does ubuntu 7 come with 6 editions?
[11:47] <syockit> Is it only going to have one release candidate?
[11:49] <butterflygirl> hi. anyone know why I can't change my screen brightness in kubuntu? (the F7/F8 function keys don't work)
[11:50] <ct529> syockit: cobra-the-joker: ubuntu 7? but ubuntu 7 was a year and a half ago ....
[11:51] <cobra-the-joker> ct529 , yeah i know .... actually linux isnt popular @ all  in here
[11:51] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: where do you live?
[11:51] <syockit> ah, but that one's got 'point something'.... .04, .10 etc. I want plain 7
[11:51] <cobra-the-joker> so they found that ubuntu 7 was a great release ...so they announced it and gave it for free on computer magazines
[11:52] <ct529> syockit: now I get it .... like ms virus 7
[11:52] <cobra-the-joker> ct529 , Egypt
[11:52] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: I see .... yu can get the CD sent to you for free from Canonical  do you know that?
[11:53] <cobra-the-joker> no
[11:53] <cobra-the-joker> ct529 , send it 4 Free ??????
[11:54] <butterflygirl> cobra-the-joker: yep, I got one from them (i'm in south africa)
[11:55] <ct529> syockit: yes
[11:55] <ct529> syockit: wait
[11:55] <cobra-the-joker> butterflygirl , but i think that ubu's home is south affrica ....so its like an advatnage to you
[11:56] <cobra-the-joker> but here ???
[11:56] <ct529> syockit: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/login
[11:56] <ct529> sorry cobra-the-joker: https://shipit.kubuntu.org/login
[11:56] <syockit> ct529: yay! but I prefer them downloaded
[11:56] <butterflygirl> I'd agree, but the package was from the netherlands
[11:56] <ct529> cobra-the-joker: just fill the form
[11:56] <cobra-the-joker> lol
[11:56] <ct529> syockit: sorry, mistake
[11:56] <cobra-the-joker> ct529 , Ok
[11:57] <ct529> have to go .... have a nice day
[12:00] <mishgosh> Hi...I'm on 8.10 and saw the announcement for KDE4.2.0...followed the instructions on the kubuntu.org news article, and now when logging in, after the KDM screen, I get a black screen with a mouse pointer (responsive) and that's it. Any suggestions?
[12:01] <giuseppe_> hello... anyone can help me aoput acpi problem on toshiba mobile?
[12:02] <chris-rc1> hi
[12:03] <chris-rc1> this is getting really annoying. i wanna write an iso (bin) image with k3b, but cdrdao complains it cannot find the file. just burning a data cd seems ot work fine. can anybody pls help me?
[12:19] <hansy> http://rafb.net/p/LrF6s728.html << skype says "problem with audio playback... i'm running kubuntu 2.6.27-11-generic i686
[12:22] <kavurt> hansy go to skype options/sound devices, and change "sound in" and "sound out" options
[12:22] <hansy> it's set to headset
[12:23] <hansy> and i'm using a normal headset (non BT or USB)
[12:41] <cobra-the-joker> Hey there every one ....the alt-tab thing that switches between windows ...not working :(((
[12:41] <cobra-the-joker> any body can help
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[12:43] <dr_Willis>   check the kde keyboard shortcuts? try win-tab? try alt-ctrl-tab?    if all else fails.. try a new user... see if it also affects them...
[12:44] <dr_Willis> Or just leave befor someone can answer..... that works
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> if i run an X app minimised, is the window still drawn ready for the maximise, or is it not drawn until the window is maximised
[12:46] <dr_Willis> I fail to understand the differance ActionParsnip  :)
[12:46] <dr_Willis> if a window ia minimized its not drawn i think untill its visable in any case..
[12:46] <dr_Willis> Unless i totally missunderstand how X works
[12:46]  * dr_Willis wonders how many FPS quake 3 gets when its minimized
[12:47] <Andrew``> hey all... dont know if this is the right place to be, but I have just installed mplayer and mozilla-mplayer soI could listen to a radio stream (.asx file) .. but now I cant play my .mpg and .avi files. can anyone help me ?
[12:47] <dr_Willis> You could play them befor Andrew`` ?
[12:47] <Andrew``> yes dr_Willis
[12:49] <cobra-the-joker> Any one knows How to activate the alt-tab thing ?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip1> cobra-the-joker: in kde or compiz?
[12:50] <cobra-the-joker> KDE
[12:50] <dr_Willis> Andrew``,  run the viewer program from a terminal. - look for error messages.
[12:51] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip1 , it was disabled when i tried to enable the desktop effects :(
[12:52] <Andrew``> ok.. do you know the command to open Dragon PLayer from cli?
[12:52] <dr_Willis> Not a clue Andrew``  i never use dthat program. I perfer mplayer or vlc
[12:52] <ActionParsnip1> cobra-the-joker: it may be in keyboard settings in systemsettings. I tried to forward x to get the gui but it doesnt like it
[12:52] <dr_Willis> see if the video files can play in mplayer or vlc Andrew``
[12:53] <cobra-the-joker> ActionParsnip1 , mmm...will try
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> cobra-the-joker: you could try defaulting the key settings, see if that works
[12:55] <kaddi> hello :)
[12:56] <toxxxa13> :)
[12:56] <Andrew``> dr_Willis,  I can play files now if I open Dragon first, but theres  no sound now.. but i have sound from my mp3s
[12:56] <Andrew``> (amarok)
[12:57] <cobra-the-joker> Ok
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> has nayone seen this, cracked me up
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> http://letmegooglethatforyou.com/?q=ubuntu+luks
[12:58] <dr_Willis> Andrew``,  with video files - its all about the codecs most of the time. be sure you got w32codecs package installed from medibuntu
[12:58] <Andrew``> its only just now that they have no sound
[12:58] <Andrew``> everything worked ook till just now
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> Andrew``: try a reboot
[12:59] <dr_Willis> be sure to select the 'alsa' sound server perhaps.
[12:59] <dr_Willis> in the settings
[12:59] <isome> Hi, can any body suggest me solution for kscope in kbuntu8.10?
[12:59] <isome> i got this error, kscope: error while loading shared libraries: libkateutils.so.0: cannot open shared object file
[13:00] <ActionParsnip1> isome: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kscope/+bug/295900
[13:01] <ActionParsnip1> was anyone timing that?
[13:05] <freestyler01> ;)
[13:06] <khalidmian> is there such a thing as divx webplayer in kubuntu if not is there an alternate solution ?
[13:07] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: just make sure you have the medibuntu plugins and you can play anything
[13:08] <khalidmian> ActionParsnip1: i tried running divx file via firefox but it said i had missing plugins when i asked firefox to install the missing plugins it took me to divx page
[13:08] <dr_Willis> khalidmian,  mplayer plugin plays them for me.
[13:09] <dr_Willis> do install all the w32codec pack
[13:11] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: missing plugin video/x-msvideo
[13:11] <ActionParsnip1> !codecs
[13:11] <Andrew``> Ok, I rebooted and sstill the same.. its a fatal error "error opening/initialising selected video_out (vo) device
[13:11] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: yes i did install codecs 32
[13:13] <Andrew``> I am just wondering if I uninstall the mplaer and mozilla-mplayer (not that I k now how) if that would fix the problem?
[13:13] <dr_Willis> Andrew``,  select a different video out device in the preferances
[13:16] <Andrew``> ok I am using Kaffiene to open files... is there a way to tell kubuntu to open kaffiene when I click an avi or mpg file?
[13:17] <ActionParsnip1> !computers
[13:18] <Pici> ActionParsnip1: stop
[13:18] <ActionParsnip1> just spreading the love
[13:18] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: any suggestion on missing plugin x-msvideo
[13:19] <dr_Willis> Nope. I rrely use kde4/kaffine, i tend to launch gmplayer/vlc/mplayer and tell it what video files to load/make a playlist
[13:19] <dr_Willis> or i launch the player and drag/drop the videos onto it
[13:20] <ActionParsnip1> khalidmian: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=2800627&highlight=
[13:21] <kaddi> Andrew`` there is probably a nicer way to do this, but you could rightclick on the avi-file, select open with, select others, select "kaffeine" from the menu and check the box "always open file with this application"
[13:21] <kaddi> then every file of the same type will be opened with kaffeine :)
[13:21]  * dr_Willis tends to delete 'kaffine'  from that list
[13:21] <kaddi> :o why ?
[13:22] <dr_Willis> becasue i hate kaffine :) i tend to use mplayer or vlc
[13:22] <kaddi> is that just a personal preference or are there good reasons to not use kaffeine?
[13:25] <Andrew``> okI have another question..... I have Kubuntu on the one drive (SATA) but I now want to re-install Winblows on a new 2nd drive . I have found instructions on how to do it if you are installing windows onto the SAME drive.. but nothing about the way I want to do it
[13:25] <dr_Willis> kaffine rarely works properly for me.. and i use mplayer/vlc in other OS's so i perfer them
[13:26] <dr_Willis> plus i couldent get kaffine to play .rmvb videos.. mplayer did
[13:26] <kaddi> never heard of rvmb-videos :D
[13:29] <kaddi> I've used vlc on windows for a long time, but lately they have become quite a security issue :p
[13:29] <kaddi> and kaffeine does play some of the rather obscure asf-videos I have where vlc won't get any sound
[13:29] <Andrew``> dr_Willis,  can you help me with my other question?
[13:29] <dr_Willis> what was the other question?
[13:30] <Andrew``> scroill up slowly
[13:31] <khalidmian> no streaming video play supoprt atleast divx realated that i can see for linux
[13:31] <dr_Willis> got a web site to test?
[13:32] <dr_Willis> i find that many video stream sites are the 'problem' not the  the codec/players
[13:32] <Andrew``> okI have another question..... I have Kubuntu on the one drive (SATA) but I now want to re-install Winblows on a new 2nd drive . I have found instructions on how to do it if you are installing windows onto the SAME drive.. but nothing about the way I want to do it
[13:32] <yaa_> whats up
[13:32] <yaa_> kъak djela
[13:32] <yaa_> pindossen
[13:32] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: http://www.watch-movies-links.net/movies/the_day_the_earth_stood_still_2008/
[13:38] <dr_Willis> that thing is playing in FLASH player here on the windows box..
[13:38] <dr_Willis> after it pops up a commercial
[13:42] <Andrew``> dr_Willis,  did you see my other question?
[13:43] <Andrew``> or anyone else?
[13:43] <dr_Willis> Ijust unplug the other hd.. and install windos to the one i want
[13:46] <chris-rc1>  i am trying to reinstall my mbr with a kubuntu live-cd. i mounted the root partition and did chroot, but now i cannot mount /boot. can sb help me pls?
[13:54] <JackWinter> anyone have an idea why i can no longer shutdown or relogin again.  all apps close and the screen goes black, but the cursor keeps working and at that point the process ends.  kdm keeps running.  the only way to shutdown is changing to a virtual term and do it manually...
[13:55] <JackWinter> if i do a sudo reboot now, then kde will finish shutting down and the computer will shutdown and then reboot.  it's just from kde that i can't do it...
[13:55] <JackWinter> hardy with kde 3.5.10
[13:56] <torkiano> hello, I'm trying jaunty and I have problems with my touchpad, anyone else?
[14:02] <jals> hi, i have 2 machines on my local network running ubuntu variants (k|xubuntu) but only one set of mouse/keyboard/monitor to go with them; what would be an easy way to access the other machine remotely?
[14:06] <uga> jals: google for freenx
[14:06] <jals> thanks uga, will do
[14:06] <uga> jals: or nomachine
[14:06] <jals> ok
[14:06] <uga> !nx
[14:06] <uga> jals: ^^^
[14:07] <jals> thanks :)
[14:08] <uga> jals: there's windows clients too at nomachine.com site
[14:08] <jals> both  machines are linux, so no need
[14:09] <jals> i just built a new machine and need to keep the old one about for a little while
[14:11] <uga> jals: what makes freenx especial compared to others like VNC is that you can use it through the internet too, with rather low bandwidth
[14:11] <jals> yeah, sounds good if you need that functionality
[14:12] <jals> command line access would do tbh
[14:12] <uga> which means sure you'll want to access it through a remote internet windows computer at some point ;)
[14:12] <uga> jals: then why not just install ssh
[14:12] <jals> uga, no reason, except i'm not that familiar with ssh heh
[14:13] <uga> jals: apt-get install openssh-server
[14:13] <uga> jals: /etc/init.d/ssh start
[14:13] <uga> and you can remotely do "ssh machinename", it'll ask you username and password
[14:13] <jals> cool
[14:13] <uga> an dyou have command line access
[14:13] <jals> i need to hook up the other machine to install that, brb
[14:14] <uga> jals: it's secure connection (encrypted)
[14:14] <uga> its' similar to telnet, if you know it
[14:14] <dou213> jals, but it is more secure with pub keys
[14:14] <uga> yups
[14:15] <uga> dou213: how did you type that almost at the same time I wrote "it's similar to telnet"? =)
[14:15] <uga> 1 sec to write the whole sentence, or you predicted what I wanted to type? =)
[14:15] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: heres another link
[14:15] <khalidmian> dr_Willis: http://www.movshare.net/video/luom0sf2hqhfr
[14:15] <khalidmian> cannot play streaming video
[14:16] <dou213> :)
[14:17] <uga> oh well, I have ot go now. if jals has any trouble with ssh, can anyone help him out? I won't be able to respond
[14:17] <uga> cya
[14:18] <bindaas> how to create shortcut or any symbolic link in intrepid?
[14:18] <dou213> bindaas, 'man ln'
[14:19] <bindaas> dou213: i dont have problem with *ln*
[14:19] <bindaas> my problem is even when i create or stroe anything in desktop dir, i cant see in desktop
[14:20] <bindaas> store*
[14:20] <bindaas> hmm different behaviour in kde 4?
[14:22] <JackWinter> bindaas: the ~/Desktop dir isn't what you see on the desktop...  the is some plasmoid that shows what you put in Desktop
[14:22] <kaddi> so how do you create a shortcut on your desktop? I've been wondering that as well :D
[14:23] <JackWinter> kaddi: don't know, am still on hardy :)  just playing with a vbox install of inteprid at times :)
[14:23] <bindaas> JackWinter: say i created a ln to a application in desktop ,how to see it ?
[14:23] <bindaas> aha late :(
[14:24] <JackWinter> bindaas: just telling you that there are 2 desktops.  one that you see, and another one in ~/Desktop.  what the correlation is i don't know
[14:24] <yaa_> WHAT?????
[14:25] <bindaas> different behaviour in new version,previously it was not like that
[14:26] <kalorin> bindass, I remember reading something about that
[14:26] <kalorin> adn they had a reason for doing it this way
[14:26] <kaddi> bindaas: i've been told, that you could just add a widget showing the content of the "Desktop"-folder to your dekstop. so you see it's content and the links
[14:27] <kaddi> but that wasn't really what i wanted :)
[14:27] <bindaas> hmm
[14:28] <marwan_> hmm
[14:29] <yaa_> IT CANT BE TRUE
[14:29] <marwan_> ist hier jemand aus Deutschland ?
[14:29] <kaddi> !DE |marwan_
[14:29] <kaddi> und ja ;)
[14:30] <marwan_> kaddi, ich versuche jetzt auf anderen Rechner zu greifen, wollen wir das zusammen versuchen ?
[14:30] <JackWinter> just booted a virtual 8.10, and you can drag and drop icons from the "desktop" widget to the real desktop.  maybe a good workaround ?
[14:31] <kaddi> english only marwan_ ... hier soll nur englisch gesprochen werden, damit alle anwesenden die themen verfolgen können.
[14:31] <marwan_> ok
[14:31] <marwan_> sorry
[14:32] <yaa_> NO!!
[14:32] <bazhang> yaa_, stop
[14:32] <yaa_> what/ what stap
[14:32] <yaa_> stop
[14:32] <bazhang> yaa_, this is kubuntu support
[14:33] <yaa_> aah
[14:33] <bazhang> yaa_, this is NOT a chat channel.
[14:33] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have a bug i dont know how to fix! I run Kubuntu 8.10 64bit, and playback DVD, its lagging very much! Its the same in the 32 bit version, BUT, the bug is NOT present under Ubuntu 8.10 32Bit! So its a KDE bug!
[14:33] <yaa_> i got
[14:33] <marwan_> please i need some help, i try to connect with another computer, can some body help ?
[14:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> Really like this to work, so please speak up if you know any other solution than installing Ubuntu
[14:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> In my case i think its eighter chipset related, but then its only problems with KDE
[14:38] <manumar> hello
[14:38] <manumar> can someone helpme?
[14:38] <manumar> with sound drivers
[14:39] <manumar> cabrones ayudadme
[14:39] <manumar> xD
[14:39] <manumar> frikazos del kubuntu
[14:39] <manumar> Go!!!!
[14:39] <khalidmian> usb device doesnt show in vbox scenario any help there?
[14:39] <manumar> helpme helpme
[14:44] <curan> how can i get flash in konqueror working (intrepid 64-bit)?
[14:46] <khalidmian> curan: http://linuxlab.dk/tipsntricks/flash-konqueror
[14:47] <khalidmian> curan: also see http://freebsd.kde.org/howtos/konqueror-flash.php
[14:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> curan: Drop konquer, it's a known issur
[14:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> issue*
[14:49] <Sp0tKubuntu> FF and Opera dont have thoose issues
[14:50] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe thay do, but not so known
[14:50] <curan> khalidmian: thanks
[14:51] <techbw> hi all, how can I get ctrl+alt+f1 to drop me in console, I have not used it in a long time, but would like to be able to use this, but now when I try ctrl+alt+number, it does nothing, what can I change to get it back the way it was
[14:51] <curan> Sp0tKubuntu: maybe, but 64-bit FF has problems with java too
[14:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok?
[14:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have no problems in FF, with Java
[14:51] <Sp0tKubuntu> Using it for netbanking
[14:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> Using Kubuntu 8.10, 64 bit, and ff package + java + flash
[14:52] <khalidmian> curan: i saw virtually no difference between 64 bit kubuntu and 32 bit so now i have 32 bit version
[14:52] <Sp0tKubuntu> Just running, the only thing i CANT get running, i DVD Playback
[14:53] <curan> khalidmian: true, i think i will switch too
[14:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok, i have just installed 64 bit yesterday, from 32, and theres a hell of a difference
[14:53] <khalidmian> Sp0tKubuntu: did u get restricted codecs?
[14:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> Jeps
[14:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> khalidmian: I works fine i Ubuntu
[14:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> So its KDE dont liking my chipset, i think
[14:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> I ran Ubuntu 8.10 from live CD, and installed 2 codecs, the "Bad and "ugly", and it worked fine
[14:54] <Sp0tKubuntu> But in Kubuntu 8.10, 32 AND 64Bit, no go!!
[14:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Like to watch DVD on your machine? Do you have Santa Rosa chipset? DONT GO KUBUNTU!
[14:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> Go Ubuntu! :-)
[14:56] <Sp0tKubuntu> But! Me like Kubuntu! Dont want to change just to get that little part to work, thats a BIG issue for me
[14:57] <ye||ow> hi
[14:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have tryed all kind of things changing around in the desktop effects in Kubuntu, without luck! Still cant play DVD!
[14:58] <ye||ow> does anybody know why my kontact shows my to-dos three times?
[14:58] <khalidmian> Couldn't find package libxine-main1 any help there?
[14:59] <techbw> anyone able to help dropping to virtual terminal, ctrl+alt+f1-f6 not working for me, it used to though
[14:59] <bazhang> !info libxine1
[15:02] <khalidmian> where and how do i get streamripper for kubuntu or something similar/better?
[15:02] <techbw> no one able to help with dropping to virtual terminal problem???????????
[15:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> khalidmian: I think its medibuntu?
[15:03] <bazhang> !info kstreamripper
[15:03] <bibstha> i just installed few kde apps like
[15:03] <bibstha> gwenview
[15:03] <bibstha> and amarok
[15:03] <bibstha> but not kubuntu-desktop
[15:03] <bibstha> now the fonts are extremely small in kde apps
[15:03] <bazhang> also see info streamripper
[15:03] <bibstha> and systemsettings > appearence doesnot have a font configuration
[15:03] <bibstha> can anyone help
[15:04] <bibstha> btw where does KDE4 store font settings?
[15:05] <techbw> ugh! f&($* this is useless, trying to get help from inside this room, everytime I ask for help not even a single reply, not even nope sorry can't help there nothing.
[15:05] <khalidmian> my virtualbox project was unsucesssful i was not able to use xp under vbox to sync with my iphone :(
[15:10] <altrortla> !pancake
[15:11] <juan_> hi
[15:11] <juan_> i have some strange problem
[15:11] <juan_> when my Kubuntu installation boots (the same with LIVE CD)
[15:11] <juan_> get frizzed, but continue if i press a key
[15:12] <juan_> if i hold the key, the boot continue, if not, freeze
[15:12] <juan_> some idea?
[15:12] <cadman21> can someone help me with activating my graphics card drivers?
[15:13] <jamesstanley> cadman21: k menu... applications... system... hardware drivers
[15:13] <jamesstanley> then pick the one for your graphics card
[15:14] <adi_> hi all
[15:14] <jamesstanley> hi
[15:14] <trappist> hey what's the util I launch with alt-space that... opens stuff?
[15:14] <adi_> can anyone help me with usb wireless dlink dwl-g122 in kde 4
[15:14] <trappist> can't remember what it's called
[15:14] <adi_> i cant connect
[15:15] <cadman21> jamesstanley: I did that but they won't activate..
[15:15] <adi_> hat should I do in kubuntu with kde 4 to connect to this usb dlink
[15:15] <jamesstanley> cadman21: did you restart x?
[15:16] <cadman21> jamesstanley: x?
[15:16] <jamesstanley> pictures-mode
[15:16] <adi_> lsusb gives this: Bus 005 Device 005: ID 07d1:3c03 D-Link System DWL-G122 802.11g Adapter [ralink rt73]
[15:16] <bartvk> Hi.. I run Kubuntu LiveUSB and every two, three minutes, it halts for 2 to 3 seconds (mouse pointer does not respond). Any idea what this causes?
[15:16] <cadman21> Jamesstanley: no
[15:16] <jamesstanley> log out, press Ctrl-alt-backspace, then log in
[15:16] <jamesstanley> wait
[15:16] <jamesstanley> what do you mean by 'activate' drivers?
[15:17] <jamesstanley> did it download them and install them?
[15:17] <adi_> does this ralink rt73 is included by default in kubuntu 8.10?
[15:19] <adi_> anyone any idea?
[15:19] <cadman21> jamesstanley: I just installed kubuntu last night,  and a window popped up and told me to activate me Graphics card drivers. so I click activate and the loading bar went back and forth a couple of times then stopped and the % stayed at 0
[15:19] <adi_> I can see the light on the usb but cant connect to network
[15:20] <jamesstanley> adi_: i would suspect that kubuntu comes with it, as there is a free driver for it, but i don't know
[15:20] <jamesstanley> cadman21: in that case i don't know what happened
[15:20] <adi_> this was wat happend in ubuntu
[15:20] <adi_> but here in kubuntu I dont know
[15:21] <cadman21> jamesstanley: is there a way to activate them through the command line?
[15:21] <adi_> but normally it should be included in kernel in kubuntu...
[15:21] <adi_> right?
[15:21] <jamesstanley> cadman21: apt-cache search nvidia
[15:21] <jamesstanley> or ati if you have ati
[15:21] <Sp0tKubuntu> !dk
[15:28] <JuJuBee> I downloaded the latest kubuntu image yesterday (32bit) but cannot get anything other than mirror on my dual head setup.  BUT with the ubuntu live CD I can get spanning desktop with ability to drag window from one to the other.
[15:28] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Talking about compiz?
[15:28] <palbuddy> hi! newbie!  I love using my keyboard, and I was wondering if anyone had a webpage on key combinations for kde 4.2
[15:29] <palbuddy> like how do I open kickoff with the keyboard?
[15:29] <JuJuBee> Sp0tKubuntu: whatever is default on live cd.
[15:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Ubuntu have compix, kubuntu got KDE
[15:29] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Ubuntu is Gnome that is
[15:30] <Geggele> hello give me plaese an german sever
[15:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: And Kubuntu KDE. I think you talk about compiz effect? Desktop cube?
[15:30] <JuJuBee> Sp0tKubuntu: thought they both use xorg?  Why would it matter then?  Pardon my ignorance.
[15:30] <Sp0tKubuntu> !de
[15:30] <Geggele> many thx
[15:30] <JuJuBee> Not desktop cube.  I want (eventually) 2 separate monitors with 2 separate desktops Separate panels etc...
[15:31] <lolipop> Hi folks, I'm using kubuntu 8.04 kde 4.1, is that possible to upgrade to kde 4.2?
[15:31] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Im newbie to! I just try the same thing, and only works in Ubuntu, not Kubuntu
[15:31] <JuJuBee> I use ATI Mobilitiy 9600 card in laptop.
[15:31] <JuJuBee> Hmmm, that is weird.  That means I will be switching back to Gnome then.  I prefer KDE, but not so much 4.x
[15:32] <jamesstanley> palbuddy: alt-f1 for kickoff
[15:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: You can get compiz for kubuntu, just allow the other source in software sources
[15:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: I hae same problems, using Kubuntu, cant play a simple DVD; lagging!
[15:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: I Ubuntu, no problems!
[15:32] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Have* In*
[15:33] <burn_> anyone havig problems with ati radeon grafic cards and fglrx drivers?
[15:33] <JuJuBee> I thought the display manager was independant of the drivers in use?
[15:33] <JuJuBee> burn_ : yes.  What is your problem?
[15:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: I dont know it for sure, i have just tryed the same, and got confused, and then i left compiz to be
[15:34] <JuJuBee> burn_: my problems started with latest update to xorg
[15:34] <burn_> i downladed newest drivers from ati [9.1] and installit, work perfecly with resolution 1280x1024 and evriting worked, afted 3 or 4 restarts kde cannot be runned
[15:34] <palbuddy> thanks james!
[15:34] <burn_> showing some debugging simols and [stat] error
[15:34] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: That is because i like KDE
[15:35] <JuJuBee> Sp0tKubuntu: Me to.  But I require dual head to work.
[15:35] <JuJuBee> At least in some capacity other than mirror.
[15:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Dual head? 2 desk?
[15:35] <JuJuBee> Yes
[15:35] <JuJuBee> 2 desktops.
[15:35] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: That should work in all systems
[15:35] <JuJuBee> each with own panel
[15:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: I have 10 desks
[15:36] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: That is a configuration question i think
[15:36] <jamesstanley> anyone know what device 'sr1' is?
[15:36] <jamesstanley> because i'm getting lots and lots of errors about it
[15:37] <JuJuBee> Sorry, not the multiple desktops switcher for a single screen, I mean 2 separate screens with own desktop config, panel, /home/me/Desktop and /home/me/Desktop1
[15:37] <f1y> h1 all
[15:37] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: You can tell everything where it should be shown, exsample, Desk2 firefox
[15:37] <ares28ultra> Ciaooo a tutti..
[15:37] <JuJuBee> Not talking about the Pager at the bottom in panel,
[15:38] <ares28ultra> Hello at all!
[15:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Ahh, that i know nothing about! You want to use more monitors? Hardware?
[15:38] <phma> !jbo
[15:38] <JuJuBee> Sp0tKubuntu: correct.
[15:38] <JuJuBee> I have 2 monitors.
[15:38] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Sorry for confusing you then :-)
[15:38] <JuJuBee> np
[15:38] <f1y_> русские есть?
[15:38] <Pici> !ru | f1y_
[15:39] <bazhang> !ru
[15:39] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: BUT! On my laptop, i choose "System settings" "Screen" and then config it
[15:39] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: In there, in Kubuntu, i see chooses for TV and extra monitors, like TV
[15:39] <JuJuBee> Had it working flawlessly with kubuntu 7.10 each own resolution etc... when update to 8.04, can't get second monitor to 1280x1024.
[15:40] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Have you tryed some display programs for controlling that for you?
[15:40] <adrian15b> Whenever I try to install a package it asks me about choosing to preserve a local file or not. I do not want to be asked. I want the command to take a default action. assume-yes and force-yes did not work. Does anybody know?
[15:40] <JuJuBee> Sp0tKubuntu: System Settings -> Display on latest live cd wont allow me to anything but mirror.
[15:41] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: I have i program, dont know if it can be used, called, KRandTray
[15:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Hmm, i can do the same in the new almost like in the old, exept deleting windows partitions as they dont appear
[15:42] <JuJuBee> Sp0tKubuntu: tried xrandr but it shows max resolution for external monitor to 1024x768 which is incorrect.  It can do 1280x1024 and it did when I had kubuntu 7.10
[15:42] <ares28ultra> someone knows a naruto it chan??
[15:42] <Sp0tKubuntu> JuJuBee: Maybe the program? Try another app :-)
[15:42] <burn_> i need to use 1024x768 so i can see my desktop on tv, if u use 1280x1024 i dont see whole desktop
[15:43] <burn_> but ati drivers dont work well on 8.04
[15:43] <Sp0tKubuntu> Sorry! BBL! have to go now
[15:43] <ares28ultra> someone can tell me a NARUTO chan?
[15:46] <ares28ultra> Qualcuno conosce un canale relativo a Naruto???
[15:46] <jamesstanley> ares28ultra: donde este le pelicanoso?!?!
[15:47] <bazhang> ares28ultra, this is kubuntu support
[15:47] <jamesstanley> ares28ultra: donde este mi pantalones?
[15:47] <bazhang> !irc | ares28ultra check last link
[15:47] <Novalgina2Fast> hi,problem i have installed kde 4.2(before i had intrepid kubuntu with kde 4.1 and now i can't acces then the login
[15:47] <JuJuBee> Anybody here good with squid acl's?
[15:47] <alarm_> anyone know how to make my external usb hdd to be read only ? on previous version of kubuntu/kde you could do that from dialog boxes, not anymore . how could i do them to be mounted read only ?
[15:48] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  what do u mean ? :)
[15:49] <khalidmian> whats the alternative for gk pod for kubunu something thats good and works well ?
[15:49] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: i have done the upgrade but then reboot i can do login but then kde4.2 don't start,only there is the wallpaper and i can move only the mouse
[15:50] <khalidmian> whats the alternative for gtk pod for kubunu something thats good and works well ?
[15:50] <alarm_> so it appears the kde4.2 login and when you enter it shows what ?
[15:50] <alarm_> loading the stuff ? like the kde environment ? regional settings or not even this appears ?
[15:51] <alarm_> khalidmian, mean something like gtk-engine-kde4 ?
[15:51] <burn_> does new drivers from atiradeon [9.1] works with 8.10 interpid ibex? [i know before didnt worked]
[15:51] <JuJuBee> khalidmian: I don't manage my ipod on linux, but I love mediamonkey on windows.  I heard it can run under wine.
[15:51] <alarm_> oh ipod, ok sorry :P
[15:52] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: then appear only the wallpaper of the login and stop,that's it,i can only move mouse
[15:52] <alarm_> no error i suppose .
[15:52] <alarm_> first what you can try is is:
[15:52] <alarm_> 1) enter in console, login and type startx and see if an error appears
[15:53] <alarm_> 2) check inside /var/log/kdm.log
[15:53] <alarm_> 3) make sure you installed correctly kde4.2
[15:53] <alarm_> try reinstalling it
[15:53] <khalidmian> alarm_: something to manage ipod with in kubuntu
[15:54] <alarm_> khalidmian, yeap i just got it, not familiar with external media devices
[15:55] <FreakCERS> Hi, running aticonfig --initial on a IBM thinkpad T40 using kubuntu 8.10, I get: "Operating system policy has overriden aticonfig --initial" - anyone knoe what could cause that?
[15:56] <khalidmian> alarm_: just got an answer to my own problems http://wiki.ubuntu-id.org/IPodHowto
[15:56] <jamesstanley> anyone know why the k menu button is an arrow pointing to the left?
[15:56] <jamesstanley> alternatively, does anyone know why kde4's icons always get mixed up?
[15:59] <ares28ultra> Qualcuno conosce un chan di Nauto???
[16:00] <jamesstanley> ares28ultra: donde estan mis pantalones?
[16:01] <ares28ultra> sorry, i'm searchin a chan of Naruto!!!!
[16:02] <jamesstanley> ares28ultra: donde estan les pelicanoso?
[16:02] <ares28ultra> ???
[16:04] <jamesstanley> habla espagnol?
[16:04] <f1y_> ðóññêèå êòî åñòü?)
[16:05] <bazhang> f1y_, /join #ubuntu-ru
[16:05] <bazhang> ares28ultra, dont ask here; this is kubuntu support only
[16:05] <ares28ultra> bye!
[16:08] <student18> Help.  A student removed all the panels on kubuntu.  When I make a new panel, the first widget takes the whole panel.  The second blocks everything and nothing is usable,
[16:10] <ghostcube> student18: is it possible to change the user or add a new user ?
[16:10] <ghostcube> or maybe start a blank session so it would load defaults
[16:10] <student18> yeah I can add a user
[16:11] <student18> how would I load a blank session?
[16:11] <ghostcube> maybe try the clean session
[16:11] <ghostcube> in systemsettings session management
[16:11] <student18> that sounds like the quicker of the two
[16:11] <ghostcube> its in the advanced option tab
[16:12] <student18> I'll try that, brb
[16:12] <burn_> how to update hardy heron 8.04 to interpid ibex 8.10 using cd rom?
[16:13] <chris-rc1> hi
[16:13] <surgy> hello
[16:13] <chris-rc1> how can i flush dns information on my client?
[16:13] <ForeverWilsby> get a toilet
[16:13] <ghostcube> ?? chris-rc1
[16:14] <surgy> I am talking to you via irssi becuase kubuntu keeps freezing at the boot screen, Im running kubuntu 8.10 with kde 4.2 can anyone help me please?
[16:14] <ghostcube> surgy: hmm sounds bad what grafic card is this
[16:14] <jamesstanley> surgy: did you press alt-f1 to see what it was saying to you?
[16:15] <alarm_> anyone know how to make my external usb hdd to be read only ? on previous version of kubuntu/kde you could do that from dialog boxes, not anymore . how could i do them to be mounted read only ?
[16:15] <surgy> its an nvidia graphics card and no i didnt press alt f1 but i will now
[16:15] <jamesstanley> alarm_: specify the option 'ro' when mounting
[16:15] <jamesstanley> or in the fstab
[16:15] <chris-rc1> i want to access a site which according to ALL my browsers does not exist. but i can access the site via all other pcs in the SAME network. i can also access it from vista on the same machine that it is not working on when on intrepid
[16:15] <alarm_> jamesstanley,  there is no line for the usb devices in the fstab to modify it
[16:15] <jamesstanley> chris-rc1: are you specifying the fqdn?
[16:15] <ghostcube> chris-rc1: can u access any page ?
[16:15] <surgy> cntrl+alt + F8 tells me that it froze on "checking battery state
[16:15] <alarm_> its being automounted from... udev ? i dont know
[16:16] <jamesstanley> alarm_: probably hal, but if you add the line in /etc/fstab it will go from there instead of hal
[16:16] <alarm_> with read/write access and i wnat to change it to read only
[16:16] <chris-rc1> yes, i can. i can even access the site using the alternative web address, but i cannot even ping the other one
[16:16] <jamesstanley> chris-rc1: what is the web address?
[16:16] <alarm_> jamesstanley, that means i have to create also mountpoints and add flags for the mounting
[16:16] <chris-rc1> jamesstanley: fqdn?
[16:16] <ghostcube> chris-rc1: maybe an bug inside the dns server yu choosed inside linux client is it the same one as for the other pcs ?
[16:16] <jamesstanley> chris-rc1: fully-qualified domain name
[16:17] <chris-rc1> one is univis.ovgu.de, the other univis.uni-magdeburg.de
[16:17] <jamesstanley> ok then, that should work
[16:17] <surgy> jamestanley: it haulted on "checking battery state"
[16:17] <ghostcube> chris-rc1: btw warum gehst du nich in den de channel lol
[16:17] <jamesstanley> surgy: in that case i don't know how to help
[16:17] <jamesstanley> perhaps there's a problem with your acpi hardware
[16:17] <chris-rc1> ghostcube: because it doesn't matter
[16:18] <ghostcube> jamesstanley: maybe he can boot without acpi enabled
[16:18] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: startx give me a lot of error and this is my var/log/kdm.log : http://pastebin.com/m3216711f ,i have done the right procedur to install kde 4.2 and i have installed it from repository so i don't know how renstall it
[16:18] <chris-rc1> thing is, that if this happens with sites without me noticing...
[16:19] <jamesstanley> chris-rc1: how long ago was the domain name registered?
[16:19] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  did u take this procedure ? http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[16:19] <jamesstanley> and are you using the same dns server as all the other machins on the network?
[16:19] <chris-rc1> i think it might be a dns problem, since my machine cannot resolve the hostname at all
[16:19] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast, sorry http://pastebin.com/m3216711f doesnt show me anythinh
[16:19] <chris-rc1> jamesstanley: long ago
[16:19] <surgy> was kde 4.2 ever added to an oficial repo?
[16:19] <alarm_> oh ok, my mistake , now i got it
[16:19] <jamesstanley> surgy: it's in 8.10
[16:20] <jamesstanley> oh 4.2, my bad
[16:20] <chris-rc1> surgy: i think it's only in experimental
[16:20] <surgy> jamesstanley: no it was kde 4.1 when i downloaded it and i had to use an "experimental" repo to get 4.2 now i want to uninstall kde and reinstall it with the real repo
[16:21] <chris-rc1> surgy: there is no 'real' repo for kde 4.2 in intrepid
[16:21] <surgy> umm 4.2 was supposed to be officially released weeks ago
[16:21] <kaddi> it's in the jaunty res though, if you want to upgrade ;)
[16:21] <kaddi> reps
[16:21] <Pici> Its only in the 'experimental' PPAs currently.
[16:21] <surgy> man i wished i could get back to my desktop
[16:21] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast, seems that your xorg.conf file is messed up. did you try to reconfigure it ?
[16:22] <surgy> i need to reinstall kde 4.2 how do i do this?
[16:22] <chris-rc1> surgy: kde 4.2 has officially been released, that doesn't mean it is 'official' in kubuntu
[16:22] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_ : i take the procedure from kde.org-how i can reconfigure xorg?
[16:23] <jamesstanley> does anyone know the easiest way to get a broadcom wireless card to work in a kubuntu machine that doesn't have access to the internet?
[16:23] <surgy> chris-rc1: ok how do i uninstall kde 4.2 from the terminal and then reinstall it?
[16:23] <chris-rc1> so can anybody tell me how i can dump the dns cache
[16:23] <jamesstanley> i know i could either obtain the firmware for the b43 driver, or obtain ndiswrapper
[16:23] <jamesstanley> can anyone suggest which is easier?
[16:23] <chris-rc1> surgy: why do you wanna uninstall it?
[16:23] <surgy> chris-rc1: also did they change repos from the experimental repo?
[16:23] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  back up your xorg.conf and try this sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[16:23] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: this is the site http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[16:24] <surgy> chris-rc1: i got an error from kde saying i need to "check my install"
[16:24] <quassel80> hi
[16:25] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast, when installed kde4.2 did you just upgrade the packages or did you do a dist-upgrade ?
[16:25] <surgy> chris-rc1: says "no write access to /home/surgy/.ICEauthority"
[16:25] <chris-rc1> surgy, i used the beta first and then got the final automatically, so no, i don't think they've changed the repos. but it might be easier to just reinstall the whole thing
[16:25] <chris-rc1> oh ok
[16:25] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_only upgrade the packages,i had intrepid with kde4.1
[16:25] <surgy> chris-rc1: i cant just apt-get purge [kde package] and the apt-get install it?
[16:25] <chris-rc1> you might have started kde as root or so
[16:26] <amews_aj> How do I install kde 4.2 on ubuntu 8.10 ? (Not compiling)
[16:26] <chris-rc1> surge, just go to your home dir and delete the file as root
[16:26] <chris-rc1> then try to restart kde
[16:26] <surgy> chris-rc1: that file isnt needed by kde?
[16:26] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  i think thats the problem
[16:26] <alarm_> try a dist-upgrade
[16:27] <alarm_> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade (after you update first)
[16:27] <surgy> chris-rc1: im not even seeing that file in my /home/surgy/ LS
[16:27] <alarm_> and try again to login
[16:28] <chris-rc1> it is hidden, and it will be recreated automatically. do ls -l * to see it
[16:30] <surgy> chris-rc1: nope not even with ls -l
[16:31] <surgy> chris-rc1: whats the package name for kde 4.2 ?
[16:31] <surgy> !kde
[16:31] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_ : so,i have done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg now i have to do alt+E? dist-upgrade say me only that i have to update gnview only this package but i don't know how upgrade it XD
[16:32] <alarm_> did you do first apt-get update ? and then dist-upgrade ?
[16:32] <alarm_> what is alt+e ?
[16:32] <surgy> anyone know the package name of kde 4.2?
[16:33] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: yes i have done it, alt+E restart x session
[16:33] <alarm_> yeah u can try that
[16:33] <surgy> ?
[16:34] <chris-rc1> surgy: wait
[16:34] <surgy> ok
[16:34] <chris-rc1> sorry, try ls -la *
[16:35] <chris-rc1> so does anybody know how i can force my machine to forget its dns cache??
[16:35] <chris-rc1> this thing is kinda freaking me out...
[16:35] <surgy> chris-rc1: that is just sorting it into its category like video, music, etc etc
[16:35] <chris-rc1> you are on the console?
[16:35] <surgy> chris-rc1:  and i cant page up or page down becuase im running without a windows manager right now
[16:36] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_ : i don't solve the problem XD
[16:36] <surgy> chris-rc1: a console is all that i have...
[16:36] <chris-rc1> shift + page up/down allows you to scroll
[16:36] <alarm_> any changes ?
[16:36] <surgy> chris-rc1: no it doesnt
[16:36] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: no
[16:37] <alarm_> can u upload the new kdm.log ?
[16:37] <surgy> i need help uninstalling kde 4.2 and then reinstalling kde 4.2 .....
[16:37] <surgy> if i only had the package name
[16:37] <dvoid> am i the only guy that has ecountered the "cant remove widgets" problem?
[16:37] <dvoid> i hav experienced the same problem in multiple kde 4.2 installations
[16:38] <alarm_> dvoid,  what do u mean cant remove widgets ?
[16:38] <dvoid> alarm_: i can add and move around plasma widgets, and remove , but when i restart kde the removed widgets are back again
[16:38] <alarm_> ok, i faced also. looks like a bug to me
[16:39] <altrortla> !secondlife
[16:39] <dvoid> alarm_: yea seems like it
[16:39] <alarm_> i can give u a solution but its not the most ideal
[16:39] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: here: http://pastebin.com/m6b5e1921 and thank for all
[16:39] <dvoid> alarm_: hit me :D
[16:39] <alarm_> but thats what i did to get rid of some widgets that i did not want
[16:39] <alarm_> .kde/share/config
[16:39] <alarm_> there are two plasma files
[16:39] <alarm_> plasma.rc and one more
[16:39] <alarm_> back the up. and delete those two files
[16:40] <surgy> man i really need help with this problem, i cant access kde at all...
[16:40] <dvoid> alarm_: kk tanx
[16:40] <alarm_> relogin. all ur settings for themes, desktop , widgets will be lost
[16:40] <surgy> better yet how do i downgrade to kde 3.8?
[16:40] <alarm_> at least u can set them within 5 mins instead of strugling how to remove a widget.
[16:40] <chris-rc1> surgy, ther is no 3.8
[16:40] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  give me a min
[16:40] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm: yes sure
[16:40] <surgy> well the one that was stable before kde 4.1
[16:41] <chris-rc1> one last thing. go to your home dir and do ls -l .ICEauthority
[16:41] <surgy> how do i downgrade to the kde before 4.1 ?
[16:42] <chris-rc1> why would you want to do that (except you got an nvidia card, but even then...). btw, there is no intrepid with kde (no official one)
[16:42] <khalidmian> i would like to ask some security admin realted questions
[16:43] <surgy> chris-rc1: becuase kde 4.1 is super unstable, and 4.2 is barely any better, when the devs produce a decent product i wil lsupport it
[16:43] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,
[16:43] <alarm_> u here ?
[16:43] <ares28ultra> Hallo!
[16:43] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: yes
[16:44] <surgy> fuck it ill just try kubuntu-desktop
[16:44] <chris-rc1> surgy, you should really get your facts right here. but if you want kde 3.5, then the best thing is to install hardy
[16:44] <alarm_> might be something wrong with the ati broken symlinks
[16:44] <alarm_> try this
[16:44] <alarm_> emerge -C ati-drivers
[16:44] <ares28ultra> someone used bespin kde4 theme?
[16:44] <surgy> chris-rc1: and what about my 450gb of data stored in my home folder?
[16:44] <alarm_> eselect opengl set xorg-x11 (and remove any files that cause problems)
[16:44] <alarm_> emerge -av ati-drivers
[16:44] <alarm_> eselect opengl set ati
[16:45] <chris-rc1> surgy, that's why you should put home on an extra partition
[16:45] <khalidmian> why doesnt kubuntu detect my ipod
[16:45] <chris-rc1> if you wanna repair you current install let me know
[16:45] <surgy> chris-rc1: well i didnt, becuase i expected kde to hold true to its name and be stable.
[16:46] <chris-rc1> what dns client does kubuntu use?
[16:46] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  or try reinstalling ati drivers
[16:46] <surgy> chris-rc1: i do want to repair it, but so far there have been no clues as to how to repair it other than the one kde gave me which says to reinstall
[16:47] <surgy> exit
[16:48] <ForeverWilsby> has anyone gotten desktop search working?
[16:48] <ForeverWilsby> I get an error message from Strigi Desktop file indexer
[16:49] <khalidmian> whats with kubuntu andusb issue?
[16:49] <ForeverWilsby> Failed to contact Strigi indexter (No such method 'currentFolder' in interface 'org.kde.nepomuk.Strigi' at .......
[16:49] <khalidmian> how d i resolve usb issue in kubunu
[16:49] <ForeverWilsby> khalidmian, can you be more specific, ie. what are you trying to do. What is not working?
[16:49] <ForeverWilsby> WHAT ISSUE?
[16:49] <ForeverWilsby> a usb dildo?
[16:49] <khalidmian> ForeverWilsby: kubuntu does not detect when i connect my ipod via usb
[16:50] <ForeverWilsby> khalidmian, what software are you using to connect your ipod to kubuntu?
[16:50] <khalidmian> banshee
[16:50] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_ : emerge command not found
[16:51] <alarm_> try reinstalling ati drivers
[16:51] <khalidmian> ForeverWilsby: but that not the problem - problem in kubuntu isnt detecting my ipod period
[16:51] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_:ok thanks
[16:52] <ForeverWilsby> khalidmian, when you say not detecting.... what do you mean?
[16:52] <ForeverWilsby> khalidmian, nothing on dmesg?
[16:52] <khalidmian> ForeverWilsby: mean when i plugin my ipod - device notifier doesnt detect it
[16:53] <khalidmian> ForeverWilsby: device notifier says nothing plugged in
[16:53] <ForeverWilsby> That's because it does not recognise the type of device
[16:53] <ForeverWilsby> you need to install some software that does
[16:53] <alarm_> i am still wondering how on earth to change the access on my partitions from read/write to read only (external usb hdd)
[16:53] <khalidmian> ForeverWilsby: what software would detect my ipod?
[16:54] <ForeverWilsby> try installing ipodslave
[16:55] <alarm_> isnt there on kubuntu 8.1 something similar like in previews version that you could go to Disk & File Systems through the system settings ?
[16:57] <khalidmian> i just installed ipodslave using adept but cant find it in programs
[17:00] <hurra> !de
[17:00] <surgy> ok so im downgrading my linux install to 8.04 and i want all of my bookmarks from firefox in a file so i can just add them to my new firefox can someone help?
[17:01] <alarm_> surgy,  back up the .mozilla folder
[17:01] <alarm_> restore it when done and u will have all the settings/bookmarks as before
[17:01] <surgy> alarm_: and then just copy/paste it over my new mozilla folder latter?
[17:01] <alarm_> that would do , yes
[17:02] <alarm_> as long it is the same firefox version u should not have any problem
[17:02] <khalidmian> installed ipodslave vie adept cant find program still ipod not being detected
[17:03] <surgy> alarm_: ok but .mozilla is locked...... as in i dont have permision to do anything to it, and im on a live cd right now, so how do i move it to another partition since its locked?
[17:03] <alarm_> now i am confused :P
[17:04] <alarm_> u are running a live cd , and you want to back up ur .mozilla folder ?
[17:04] <alarm_> so that u will keep the bookmarks that you created while using the live cd
[17:05] <khalidmian> would like to know how to config ipod-convenience
[17:06] <surgy> i just chmod 777 the mozilla file all is good now
[17:06] <surgy> thnx for your time
[17:06] <alarm_> ;)
[17:06] <surgy> alarm_: no i wanted to backup my old bookmarks from my last install before installing 8.04
[17:07] <alarm_> thats the way to go then. keep the whole directory. bookmarks are said to be saved in html form, never tried it in that way. and there are also some j... something files
[17:10] <FreakCERS> Hi, running aticonfig --initial on a IBM thinkpad T40 using kubuntu 8.10, I get: "Operating system policy has overriden aticonfig --initial" - anyone know what could cause that?
[17:10] <FreakCERS> it also says "Read below for instructions", then segfaults, because the file /etc/ati/initial-message.txt is missing
[17:14] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_ : i can't login to kde 4.2 yet
[17:14] <ForeverWilsby>  ok, DOES strigi work with kde 4.2?
[17:14] <ForeverWilsby> or are those kde 4.2 packages and strigi broken
[17:14] <ForeverWilsby> anyone know?
[17:28] <khalidmian_> Error initialising iPod: Problem creating iPod directory or file: '/media/ipod/iTunes_Control'.
[17:28] <khalidmian_> any help there?
[17:29] <dr_Willis> make the directry?
[17:29] <dr_Willis> or perhaps its mouunted where a user cant make the directroys
[17:29] <dr_Willis> assuming the ipod is mounted to /media/ipod
[17:30] <khalidmian_> dr_Willis: yes it is
[17:30] <dr_Willis> I would check how its mounted. and with what options. I imagine its mounted where only root can write to it
[17:33] <khalidmian_> how will i know ipod is mounted?
[17:33] <khalidmian_> dr_Willis: device manager doesnt show anything pluggedin
[17:35] <khalidmian_> im wondering if i should switch to ubuntu or back to ewwwwwwwww  windows
[17:36] <dr_Willis> I never use device manager.. i just mount things manually, or via fstab
[17:36] <dr_Willis> or get rid of the ipod. :)
[17:36] <khalidmian_> lol
[17:37] <khalidmian_> dr_Willis: got to ask some security and admin question wondering if you might have solutions/answers
[17:37] <dr_Willis> Make it quick. its my bed time
[17:38] <khalidmian_> dr_Willis: i have a laptop kids have desktops in windows vista can i admin there unit via my laptop using kubuntu
[17:39] <dr_Willis> You can use VNC to remote - controll WIndows machines
[17:39] <dr_Willis> I tend to use 'ultravnc' in windows
[17:39] <khalidmian_> ok
[17:40] <khalidmian_> dr_Willis: second question is how can i control cyberpatrol parental control related things via kubuntu
[17:41] <dr_Willis> No idea about tha tspecific one.. but there are firefox extensions that let you 'control' the sites and stuff the kids go to.
[17:41] <dr_Willis> I forget the names of the one i played with a year ago.
[17:41] <janno> yo
[17:41] <ForeverWilsby> hey khalidmian_ where are you based?
[17:42] <dr_Willis> best 'cybercontrol' thing to make the kids act responsability on the internet = Move the PC to the living room. not the kids room. :)
[17:42] <khalidmian_> ForeverWilsby: canada
[17:44] <JackWinter> khalidmian_: i use a firmware called rockbox on my ipod.  works great and i just drag and drop mp3s (or ogg and many other formats) straight on it (usb drive).  sounds better than the apple fw too...
[17:44] <adi__> hi all
[17:45] <funkiwan> hey, i'm on intrepid ibex, kde 4.1 and just tried to upgrade to 4.2 following the instructions here (http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2) and have run into some problems
[17:45] <adi__> how can i mount ntfs partition in kubuntu interpid kde 4.2
[17:45] <funkiwan> hoping someone can help me out
[17:45] <adi__> anyone any ide?
[17:45] <dr_Willis> !ntfs-3g
[17:46] <dr_Willis> Or install/use with sudo  the ntfs-config tool :)
[17:46] <adi__> i allready have this ntfs-3g installed
[17:46] <adi__> i did that guide but no sucsess
[17:46] <dr_Willis> try -->   install/use with sudo  the ntfs-config tool :)
[17:47] <dr_Willis> if its internal - add entry to fstab.. if external that ntfs-config tool has a few check box's to allow users full access I think
[17:47] <adi__> I installed NTFS-config tool from adept
[17:47] <adi__> but it wont show up
[17:47] <adi__> it internal
[17:47] <funkiwan> here are the errors i encountered during the upgrade: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114847/
[17:47] <adi__> and i moded fstab file
[17:47] <adi__> but still no results
[17:47] <dr_Willis> you may have to add a fstab entry for it  -  tell the channel the line you used?
[17:48] <adi__> ok
[17:48] <dr_Willis> you may have to add a 'correct' fstab entry for it   :)
[17:48] <dr_Willis> I mount mine by Label because Im special -->  LABEL="Videos300"    /media/Videos300    ntfs-3g defaults,umask=0       0 1
[17:48] <adi__> this line added:/dev/sda1 /mnt/Windows ntfs-3g quiet,defaults,rw 0 0
[17:48] <adi__> in fstab file
[17:49] <dr_Willis>  the umask option may be needed
[17:49] <adi__> can you suggest the right line?
[17:49] <mbwjr12> funkiwan: i had errors similar to that
[17:50] <funkiwan> any luck resolving them?
[17:50] <mbwjr12> funkiwan: do an 'apt-get dist-upgrade -f', then a 'apt-get upgrade -f'
[17:50] <xeon_> yo
[17:50] <mbwjr12> kde started acting funky while it was upgrading, but i just killed the xserver and then everything went back to normal
[17:50] <mbwjr12> *killed the xserver after the upgrades finished
[17:50] <xeon_> can anyone help me with a problem?
[17:50] <mbwjr12> xeon_: maybe
[17:50] <dr_Willis> use the umask=0 option adi__  would be my FIRST guess.
[17:51] <xeon_> how i make kopete work as a winpop up?
[17:51] <xeon_> it tells me something about samba...
[17:52] <adi__> how I can use this umask?
[17:52] <dr_Willis> adi__,  to get users to access ntfs  fully  with  ntfs-3g you must use some sort of uid/gid/or umask type options. other wise just root will be able to access them
[17:52] <xeon_> i need to install samba? how i do that?
[17:52] <mbwjr12> apt-get install samba
[17:52] <dr_Willis> sudo apt-get install samba samba-doc
[17:53] <adi__> so in this line how should i modifiy :/dev/sda1 /mnt/Windows ntfs-3g quiet,defaults,rw 0 0
[17:53] <dr_Willis> then the samba books/docs are going to be in /usr/share/docs/samba-doc (I think) :) 3 books on the topic.
[17:53] <dr_Willis> adi__,  add the umask=  in there like mine... ive no idea what 'quite' does.
[17:53] <funkiwan> mbwjr12: just tried that, but received errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/114849/
[17:53] <dr_Willis>  ntfs-3g defaults,umask=0      instead of    ntfs-3g quiet,defaults,rw
[17:54] <xeon_> ooh too hard i only neede winpop up to send a msg to someone who has windows on his pc...
[17:54] <larsivi> with 4.2 on intrepid, how can I get both gwenview and digikam at the same time? ...
[17:54] <dr_Willis> xeon_,  theres similer tools like tht on linux.. but  most people HATE the winpopup stuff.
[17:54] <dr_Willis> xeon_,  and i seem to recall that its even blocked on a lot of windows machines. :)
[17:55] <shadeslayer> larsivi: digikam is btoken
[17:55] <shadeslayer> *broken
[17:55] <shadeslayer> in KDE 4.2
[17:55] <mbwjr12> funkiwan: honestly i just kept running those two commands until it worked, and i managed to install 4.2 on 2 computers that way
[17:55] <xeon_> yeah but he still gets the msg from me...right? if i make it work?
[17:55] <larsivi> shadeslayer: how? just in terms of packages? it works fine for me as long as I don't have gwenview
[17:55] <mbwjr12> funkiwan: i also got some errors after the dist-upgrade, which is when i then did the upgrade -f
[17:56] <shadeslayer> larsivi: just read it on the site,no details as of now
[17:56] <shadeslayer> i am connecting to the net after a week,so no details
[17:56] <xeon_> ok thanx for the help
[17:57] <xeon_> good day/night
[17:58] <larsivi> shadeslayer: where did you read it?
[17:59] <adi__> dr willis | so it should look like this; /dev/sda1 /mnt/Windows ntfs-3g umask=0 ,defaults,rw 0 0
[17:59] <shadeslayer> larsivi: kde.org
[18:00] <zzz> hi. i just installed 8.10. i need to know how to setup the network
[18:01] <lovre> is there a normal archive manager for kde, something like WinRar for windows, that lets me extract more files at once, compress files in new archive, and that integrates with dolphin, so i have it in a menu when i right-click a file??? PLease....
[18:01] <adi__> dr-willis          is this the right line to add in fstab  :    /dev/sda1 /mnt/Windows ntfs-3g umask=0 ,defaults,rw 0 0
[18:01] <shadeslayer> larsivi: Digikam will not install alongside these packages due to conflicting library versions.
[18:01] <shadeslayer> here http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[18:04] <malik_> im using Kubuntu 9.04 Alpha4 its very stable
[18:04] <malik_> nomajor issues so far
[18:05] <techbw> hi, I have just upgraded to kubuntu 8.10, but don't like the menu system, is there a way to get it back to the way kde 3.5 used to be?
[18:05] <malik_> Try kubuntu 9.04 alpha 4 its great
[18:06] <zzz> techbw:right click on K
[18:06] <malik_> kde 3,5 is history, pls get used to kde4
[18:06] <Pici> malik_: Please don't suggest to users to use unreleased versions of (K)ubuntu. Jaunty is not yet supported.
[18:06] <techbw> there is no k...it looks like two arrows to the right.
[18:06] <lovre> techbw: right click on KMenu icon, click "Application Launcher Menu settings" and there select "Standard" for View
[18:07] <techbw> I left windows to get away from the vista style, and now kde4 goes and does a similar thing
[18:07] <lovre> techbw: you can customize kde any way you like. Make it look like win 3.11 if you want.
[18:07] <shadeslayer> :D
[18:08] <zzz> lovre: how do i set up the network in kde 4?
[18:08] <lovre> when i try to join #dolphin, it says: You must specify the channel key (+k).... how can i get the key?
[18:08] <techbw> don't get that...right click has the following options menu editor...application launch settings...pannel options
[18:08] <malik_> gimp and firefox look wierd on KDE how to make it look better??
[18:08] <lovre> zzz: do you have KNetworkManager running?
[18:08] <khalidmian> weird how adept says amarok isnt installed once an update to amarok-kde4 is done
[18:08] <zzz> yeap
[18:08] <shadeslayer> malik_: yeah,FF3 looks betterin windows
[18:08] <jesus_> hola
[18:08] <lovre> techbw: click application launch settings
[18:09] <techbw> only one option comes up switch tabs on hover
[18:09] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  so?
[18:09] <student19> Howdy.  B/c a student deleted all my panels and making new one didn't work I've had to re-install Kubuntu 8.10 an an old compaq.  Just after I log in, the standard icon progression comes up, first the hardrive icon then is freezes bringing the other two up.  And there it hangs.  I didn't find much in the forums helping me.  any suggestions.  Thankyou
[18:09] <mbwjr12> malik_: i think it's because of the qt-gnome theme engine. it has bugs.
[18:09] <malik_> yeah thanks
[18:09] <student19> also xrandr tells me "Can't open display" so that's odd too I assume
[18:10] <techbw> lovre: i have been through the available options in the right click menu on kmenu...but none give the option to go back to standard view
[18:10] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_ : so it doesn't work ç_ç
[18:10] <malik_> im reading this tutorial its says to to change a setting on system setting, use my kde style in gtk programs
[18:10] <malik_> i will see
[18:10] <alarm_> isnt there on kubuntu 8.1 something similar like in previews version that you could go to Disk & File Systems through the system settings ? or some way to set my external usb hdd on read only and not read/write
[18:10] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_:i have reinstalled ati driver but nothing
[18:10] <alarm_> Novalgina2Fast,  u reinstalled ati and got the same results ?
[18:10] <techbw> lovre:sorry i am blind by the looks of it...it was in the right click menu :-)
[18:10] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: yes
[18:11] <lovre> techbw: well, look harder next time :)
[18:11] <lovre> zzz: cant you create a new connection?
[18:11] <zzz> yes
[18:11] <zzz> i just did
[18:11] <lovre> zzz: and does it work?
[18:12] <lovre> zzz: how are you connected to internet?
[18:12] <zzz> i entered manually the ip, gateway and dns address and a name and clicked connect and save
[18:12] <zzz> but it's not working
[18:12] <alarm_> did you install kubuntu-desktop ? actually its a stupid question since you got kde
[18:12] <alarm_> but try it
[18:12] <whking> hi
[18:12] <whking> is there a way to turn xgl off temporarily?
[18:13] <zzz> lovre: wired
[18:13] <shadeslayer> zzz: if its Wifi,disable it and then reenable it
[18:13] <zzz> shadeslayer: it's a wired connection
[18:13] <zzz> not using wifi
[18:13] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:13] <lovre> zzz: try to set it up via konsole...
[18:13] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: i'm trying
[18:14] <lovre> zzz: maybe this would be helpful: http://nosrednaekim.wordpress.com/2008/04/25/static-networking-in-kubuntu-804-kde4/
[18:16] <lovre> does anyone know if there will be any new nvidia drivers soon? With current drivers Compiz is not working properly... Evene with compiz off, some weird rendering occurs, like leftovers from buffer etc...
[18:16] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: i have to restart x XD
[18:16] <alarm_> okie do it
[18:16] <alarm_> lovre,  look for the latest in nvidia website
[18:20] <whking> is there a way to turn xgl off temporarily?
[18:20] <whking> oops, sorry
[18:20] <chris-rc1> is there a way to tell networkmanager to rewrite resolv.conf completely, i.e. to erase it and to insert the new dns server(s)??
[18:23] <zzz> thanks.
[18:23] <zzz> it's working now
[18:25] <funkiwan> mbwjr12: ended up getting some help and doing a force overwrite of the offending package: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kde-window-manager_4%3a4.2.0-0ubuntu1~intrepid1~ppa7_i386.deb
[18:25] <techbw> oh! SH%T I have enabled desktop effects by mistake, how can I disable them from command line, because I get blank screen when logging into kde
[18:25] <funkiwan> after that, running your sudo apt-get dist-upgrade -f command completed successfully
[18:25] <funkiwan> going to reboot now and see how it goes
[18:25] <techbw> thats on kubuntu 8.10, tried to alt+f2 and run kwin --replace
[18:26] <techbw> no good though
[18:27] <techbw> any ideas??? stuck with window maker and not really fond of it...luckily it is installed otherwise I would not have access to a gui
[18:27] <mbwjr12> funkiwan good luck
[18:28] <techbw> think I will just remove kde and install it again... hopfully it will sort things out
[18:29] <ForeverSmurf> Arhh this sucks. Kubuntu maybe should have mentioned something about their kde 4.2 packages for intrepid. IE. There is no semantic desktop!!!. Wasn't that supposed to be the main feature of kde 4?
[18:29] <ForeverSmurf> It was certainly the one I was looking forward to trying
[18:31] <KEBA> hello there
[18:31] <shadeslayer> !hi
[18:32] <KEBA> id like to install the qt-version of firefox under kubuntu 8.10 - how to do it ;)
[18:33] <student19> z,v,vv,v,v
[18:33] <student19> g..bvgvg.\.bg
[18:33] <student19> b'
[18:33] <student19> bb/
[18:33] <david_> Hello, Do someone know anny good compiler for programming c/c++ that are free?
[18:34] <shadeslayer> david_: kate
[18:34] <KEBA> david_: the gnu compiler, kate... ?
[18:34] <ForeverSmurf> KEBA, I don't think it is ready yet
[18:34] <shadeslayer> davi
[18:34] <shadeslayer> oops
[18:34] <student19> hi pearle
[18:35] <david_> Iv allready downloaded gnu, but I dont understand how I install it, pritty new with Linux, but hope Kate will work.
[18:35] <KEBA> ForeverSmurf: hmm, then ive to use the gtk version, havent i?
[18:35] <shadeslayer> david_: kate needs some messing around,if youre new
[18:35] <shadeslayer> david_: here http://www.network-theory.co.uk/docs/gccintro/gccintro_9.html
[18:36] <shadeslayer> pretty helpful with kate
[18:36] <david_> Okay, thank you!
[18:36] <shadeslayer> np
[18:38] <mbwjr12> i personally really like kde 4.2, but the whole semantic desktop thing is taking quite some time
[18:38] <JackWinter> anyone have an idea why i can no longer shutdown or relogin again.  all apps close and the screen goes black, but the cursor keeps working and at that point the process ends.  kdm keeps running.  the only way to shutdown is changing to a virtual term and do it manually...
[18:38] <JackWinter> am running kde 3.5.10 on ubuntu 8.04.  since a couple of days i can't log out or shutdown.  the logout closes all progs and then stops at a black screen with a working mouse cursor.  at that moment kdm is still running.  i think it's not something in my ~/.kde, since if i start a second session from a virtual terminal with export KDEHOE=~/.kde3 startx -- :3, then it has the same problem.  i have to kill that session with ctrl-alt-bkspace to exit it...
[18:39] <JackWinter> is there some log that might tell me where kdm is stopping the logout or what is going wrong ?
[18:39] <JackWinter> or if it might possibly be an xorg prob ?
[18:40] <student19> hgvbvfyv
[18:44] <alarm_> isnt there on kubuntu 8.1 something similar like in previews version that you could go to Disk & File Systems through the system settings ? or some way to set my external usb hdd on read only and not read/write
[18:48] <tobor> Hi all - anyone know how i can find out who maintains the "j-pilot" package for kubuntu?
[18:49] <rbrunhuber> tobor: try packages.ubuntu.com or launchpad
[18:52] <rbrunhuber> tobor: packages.ubuntu.com reports ubuntu motu as the maintainer(s). You find them in #ubuntu-motu
[18:53] <ForeverSmurf> mbwjr12, how did you get the semantic desktop working?
[18:53] <ForeverSmurf> mbwjr12, how did you install sesame2?
[18:54] <shadeslayer> how do i update the kernel??
[18:55] <rbrunhuber> shadeslayer: your kernel is normally updated with the apt-get runs.
[18:55] <JackWinter> shadeslayer:  adept
[18:55] <shadeslayer> so no extra command needed??
[18:56] <JackWinter> shadeslayer: well if it's a new kernel it gets added to /boot/grub/menu.lst so you can chose it when booting, and if an update of a already installed one then just reboot once
[18:57] <shadeslayer> ok
[18:57] <horza> Hi
[18:57] <ForeverSmurf> Has anyone here got strigi working under kde 4.2?
[18:58] <ForeverSmurf> or rather, semantic desktop working under kde 4.2?
[18:58] <horza> Anybody know why ntfsprogs is an empty package in Kubuntu (amd64)?
[18:59] <giuseppe_> ciao
[19:00] <giuseppe_> !list
[19:00] <tobor> rbrunhuber: thanks!
[19:01] <rbrunhuber> tobor: you're welcome
[19:02] <surgy> whats the defualt directory to sources.list ?
[19:03] <rbrunhuber> surgy: /etc/apt/sources.list
[19:04] <njus_> anyone from indonesia?
[19:06] <FreakCERS> Hi, running aticonfig --initial on a IBM thinkpad T40 using kubuntu 8.10, I get: "Operating system policy has overriden aticonfig --initial" - anyone know what could cause that?
[19:06] <FreakCERS> it also says "Read below for instructions", then segfaults, because the file /etc/ati/initial-message.txt is missing
[19:07] <rohan> is there any way i can imitate a similar setup of panels on kde 4.2? http://bayimg.com/canpfaAbG - whenever i try to make a similar upper panel, the date field takes up so much space that it is always centered
[19:07] <rohan> this is the same problem i had throughout kde4, but is it somehow solved in kde 4.2 by some setting or so?
[19:07] <nonickname2> rohan: there's some spacer plasmoid somewhere iirc
[19:08] <rohan> oh that's great
[19:08] <nonickname2> i don't think that it's included though
[19:09] <njus_> anyone from indonesia here?
[19:09] <kaddi> how can i create a shortcut on my desktop?
[19:10] <surgy> !dvd
[19:10] <surgy> whats the package name for dvd playback?
[19:10] <rohan> surgy: sudo aptitude install libdvdcss
[19:10] <rohan> but you need to enable medicuntu repository for that
[19:11] <rohan> surgy: you're trying to play a commercial encrypted dvd?
[19:11] <surgy> rohan: thank you that is the package i need
[19:11] <rohan> great :)
[19:12] <surgy> rohan: i have done this a million times, just setting up my distro, been a while so i forgot the names of a few packages i want, also whats the extra restricted codecs package offered for kubuntu?
[19:12] <surgy> the one that include mp3 supoprt for amarok, its called xine-codecs-extra or something like that?
[19:14] <njus_> anyone from indonesia here?
[19:15] <shadeslayer> njus_: why???
[19:17] <rohan> surgy: sudo aptitude install kubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:17] <yao_ziyuan> i'm glad to see adept die
[19:17] <surgy> rohan: thank you but i dont use aptitude
[19:17] <surgy> well i guess i might i just use a different command
[19:17] <surgy> apt-get?
[19:17] <JontheEchidna> that would work^
[19:17] <surgy> i likes adept
[19:17] <yao_ziyuan> it doesn't warn about unsigned packages. so even if a package is originally signed, bad guys can still replace it with an unsigned malicious package in the middle of downloading
[19:18] <surgy> yao_ziyuan: for the paranoid maybe, i have never had that problem
[19:18] <JontheEchidna> yao_ziyuan: kpackagekit will also install unsigned packages
[19:19] <yao_ziyuan> JontheEchidna: without warning?
[19:19] <JontheEchidna> yes
[19:19] <rohan> surgy: you can use adept to install that package too
[19:19] <rohan> a package installs the same way, whatever you use to install it
[19:19] <yao_ziyuan> i know now: kde is created by a german, and germans are nazis
[19:19] <yao_ziyuan> nazi goes back alive through kde!
[19:21] <surgy> rohan: duh
[19:21] <surgy> yao_ziyuan: i am german, and am no nazi
[19:22] <Tm_T> yao_ziyuan: stop right there
[19:23] <kaddi_> so, kde 4.2 just crashed the x-server... anything I should/can do to help avoid this in the future?
[19:23] <njus__> just wanna know how many indonesian people here...
[19:25] <___Adam____> hello, I have a asus x59 laptop which i belive has a sis chipset, kubuntu dosnt reconise the ACPI, so i have no power managment any ideas?
[19:25] <surgy> kaddi_: i also had that problem had to go back to the old kde to fix it
[19:27] <yao_ziyuan> i can't judge kpackagekit until i personally test it
[19:28] <surgy> is it just me or is the multiverse really slow today?
[19:28] <rohan> surgy: so if you know enough to "duh" me, why did you announce that you don't use aptitude? what difference does it make?
[19:28] <surgy> rohan: i was being playful no ofense intended bro.
[19:29] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: now i have kde 3.5 with widgets
[19:29] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: o_O
[19:29] <alarm_> huh ? why
[19:30] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop installed 3.5
[19:30] <alarm_> at least u can now login heheeh
[19:30] <___Adam____> hello, I have a asus x59 laptop which i belive has a sis chipset, kubuntu dosnt reconise the ACPI, so i have no power managment any ideas?
[19:30] <alarm_> sorry, my mistake
[19:31] <alarm_> it is kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[19:31] <alarm_> thats the package name
[19:31] <Novalgina2Fast> alarm_ :don't worry
[19:31] <alarm_> u can give it a further try if u want
[19:35] <Bsims> I am having problems with the  mangle script for irssi  http://paste.ubuntu.com/114918/ any ideas
[19:40] <Gun_Smoke> kde 4.1 how do I add application that are installed to the 'office' catagory? gnome was pretty straight forward.. but kde's way is evading me..
[19:42] <carpii_> you mean add a new menu item for an already installed app?
[19:43] <Gun_Smoke> carpii_: yes.. and I just found it.
[19:43] <carpii_> :p
[19:43] <Gun_Smoke> but it won't allwo the change to be saved??
[19:43] <howlingmadhowie> does anyone know how to get the javascript-loaded version of googlemail running in konqueror?
[19:43] <carpii_> i was gonna suggest right clicking any menu item
[19:43] <carpii_> but im on kde 3.5 anyway
[19:43]  * howlingmadhowie is using konqueror in kde4.2 btw
[19:44] <Gun_Smoke> You have to right click the "gear-K" thing-a-ma-bob
[19:44] <Gun_Smoke> launcher maybe.. haha..
[19:44] <gorgonizer> howlingmadhowie: set konqueror to identify itself as Opera 9.0, seemed to work for me..
[19:45] <shadeslayer> lol
[19:45] <howlingmadhowie> gorgonizer: thanks, i'll try it. i set konqueror to identify itself as firefox2.0.8, but the javascript didn't work
[19:47] <howlingmadhowie> gorgonizer: okay. opera9 seems to work. thanks :)
[19:47] <gorgonizer> howlingmadhowie: no problem :)
[19:48] <howlingmadhowie> gorgonizer: it seems to have problems refreshing the screen when i scroll. maybe that's a bug in 4.2. the scroll wheel doesn't work either, which is strange
[19:50] <gorgonizer> howlingmadhowie: yeah, I am having the smae scroll issues, wonder why I never noticed that before..
[19:51] <howlingmadhowie> gorgonizer: it must be a javascript thing. maybe i'll just have to use firefox for googlemail. annoying :(
[19:51] <gorgonizer> howlingmadhowie: I tend to use Opera/Firefox for web browsing, and Konqueror for file management..
[19:51] <howlingmadhowie> mon dieu. kde4 is huge! the desktop can do so much!
[19:52] <gorgonizer> howlingmadhowie: yeah, I am very impressed in the improvement from KDE 4.1 -> 4.2 :)
[19:52] <howlingmadhowie> gorgonizer: i stopped using kde about 3 years ago. things have obviously changed a bit since then :)
[19:53] <sparr> KDE seems to only recognize mouse movement when computing the time to turn on the screen saver.  Keyboard input and even mouse button events have no effect.  What could have caused that, and how do I fix it?
[19:53] <gorgonizer> I used KDE 3.5.x, which I loved, but KDE4 was missing a lot of the features I used, until 4.2 came out..
[19:53] <carpii_> why has firefox turned from a nice capable browser, into a slog buggy piece of shit
[19:53] <marcel> how can i install gnome if a have kde please ?
[19:54] <gorgonizer> marcel: you can install the ubuntu-desktop package, which I think will do it..
[19:54] <marcel> gorgonizer: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop ??
[19:55] <gorgonizer> marcel: that should do it!
[19:56] <marcel> gorgonizer: thank you...
[19:56] <gorgonizer> marcel: np..
[19:56] <marcel> gorgonizer: ok...
[19:57] <gorgonizer> marcel: it will install a lot of packages..
[19:57] <sparr> carpii_: because it used to be a faster branch of the mozilla code, but then people who should have been using mozilla started using firefox so it got bloated too.  thats why there are new gecko-based browsers these days that are as lean as firefox used to be
[19:58] <surgy> so whats the longest a single install of kubuntu has ran without needing a major overhaul?
[19:59] <sparr> surgy: lost in statistical noise, kubuntu isnt old enough
[19:59] <horza> 4.2 isn't in the repos yet
[19:59] <carpii_> hm yeah sparr, it might be time for me to switch again :/
[19:59] <sparr> my current install is about 4 years old, and im reinstalling it (maybe kubuntu, maybe back to debian) soon
[20:00] <horza> Anybody know why ntfs package is empty?
[20:00] <horza> ntfsprogs I mean
[20:01] <surgy> anyone know of a fast gecko based browser that isnt bloated or slow? preferably something designed specificly for kde? and it cant be konq
[20:02] <JontheEchidna> You could try arora. (It's WebKit based)
[20:02] <JontheEchidna> more lightweight than konq, and based on a better rendering engine
[20:02] <shadeslayer>  hey found a way to get good graphics in FF3
[20:03] <surgy> JontheEchidna: is it faster than firefox?
[20:03] <shadeslayer> http://forum.kde.org/how-to-integrate-firefox-into-kde-t-17786.html
[20:03] <JontheEchidna> surgy: I don't know
[20:03] <JontheEchidna> It's based off the webkit snapshot included with Qt 4.4
[20:03] <surgy> ill stick with the fox then
[20:04] <shadeslayer> i think everything is looking good now,literally
[20:13] <dreisinger> Anyone know how to import an existing cmake project into kdevelop4 beta?
[20:13] <Stathis`> σφαιρα μπηκε ... πως το επαθε;;; :))))
[20:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> ARG! Now i get grey hair! HERE we go! I have just reinstalled Kubuntu 32 coming from 64bit, and i made 4 partitions, manually, / 15Gb, /swap 5Gb, /home 5Gb, and then i want to make a partition for my own files, one where system do NOT save files! :-) But how? On / i set ext3 "Beginning" "Primary", and choose format, swap i just delete and remake, and /home, i delete, remake, mount as /home, and format and heres the question, must that
[20:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> be "End" for making my own partition after?
[20:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, did you get my LOONG text just before?
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Of was it too long??
[20:15] <legodude_> any clues as to why copying smb in dolphin is soooo slow? I'm getting .5 MB/s
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> ARG! Now i get grey hair! HERE we go! I have just reinstalled Kubuntu 32 coming from 64bit, and i made 4 partitions, manually, / 15Gb, /swap 5Gb, /home 5Gb, and then i want to make a partition for my own files, one where system do NOT save files! :-)
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> But how? On / i set ext3 "Beginning" "Primary", and choose format, swap i just delete and remake, and /home, i delete, remake, mount as /home, and format and heres the question, must that
[20:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> be "End" for making my own partition after?
[20:16] <dreisinger> Kubuntu Developers!!!: The packages for kdevelop-kde4 do not find the plugins required to actually use it, and I suppose it's a bug!
[20:17] <Sp0tKubuntu> dreisinger: bugs.kde.org
[20:18] <Sp0tKubuntu> Open source, free, like u have to help fix :-)
[20:19] <dreisinger> cool
[20:19] <dreisinger> I will gladly help!
[20:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then post your bug
[20:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> Maybe its fixed in the next releas4
[20:19] <Sp0tKubuntu> e
[20:20] <Sp0tKubuntu> But that have to know about it before thay can fix it! Maybe enable "status" in software sources
[20:21] <horza> Anybody know about ntfsprogs?
[20:24] <samu> #ubuntu-offtopic
[20:28] <samu> #ubuntu
[20:45] <howlingmadhowie> is there an irc client in the kde suite?
[20:45] <apaku> Hi, it seems that the kubuntu packages for KDevelop4 beta1 are somewhat buggy. Apparently kdevelop is unable to find any of its plugins, even after running kbuildsycoca4 manually. I don't have a kubuntu system myself, but we had about 6 or 7 people in #kdevelop in the last 24 hours having this problem. I haven't heard of problems from other distro's and of course source installs are fine.
[20:46] <apaku> is anybody from the kde-packagers aware of the problem?
[20:50] <dreisinger> apaku: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdevelop-kde4/+bug/326342
[20:50] <dreisinger> apaku: Just submitted this bug report.
[20:50] <apaku> dreisinger: ok, thanks.
[20:51] <aldo> hi
[20:51] <aldo> hi
[20:52] <shadeslayer> !hi
[20:52] <aldo> ubottu
[20:52] <aldo> excuseme
[20:52] <shadeslayer> ;)
[20:53] <aldo> does anybody know why the /dev/sda9 can be checked ok
[20:53] <aldo> it named a failed
[20:54] <aldo> excusmeeee
[20:55] <aldo> excuse meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[20:55] <shadeslayer> ????
[20:55] <aldo> the kubuntu does not start because the /dev/sda9 have an error
[20:56] <aldo> does anybody know how can i fix it
[20:56] <aldo> ???????????
[20:56] <sn00zer> aldo: What's the error?
[20:56] <aldo> ero
[20:57] <aldo> error: an automatic file system check (fsck) of of the root filesystem failed
[20:58] <sn00zer> aldo: Can you boot into the Recovery Mode and run a manual fsck?
[20:58] <aldo> the root filesystem is corrently mounted in read-only mode
[20:58] <aldo> mmm let me check
[20:59] <aldo> theres a eror in the system clock too
[20:59] <hpeca> hello
[21:00] <hpeca> who  di want conect
[21:00] <hpeca> who did you connect with /j informatica and /j p@p
[21:01] <hpeca> ??
[21:01] <hpeca> i speak englih very bad
[21:02] <sn00zer> hpeca: There may be another channel in your native language. For example: spanish
[21:02] <sn00zer> !es
[21:03] <hpeca> but i don't speak Espanol
[21:03] <sn00zer> hpeca: That was an example, what is your native language?
[21:04] <hpeca> Português
[21:04] <stdin> !pt
[21:04] <hpeca> thanks
[21:04] <aldo> no i cant no get in
[21:05] <sn00zer> aldo: Same error?
[21:08] <utdmr> hi i am using i want to default login screen's background(like desktop wallpaper but black instead of blue) as my desktops background, how can i find this?
[21:08] <sn00zer> aldo: Try running sudo fsck /dev/hda9 from a live cd as per: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-401714.html
[21:09] <aldo> helpppppppppppppppppppppp
[21:10] <sn00zer> aldo: You can also ask in #ubuntu, it is typically more active and might have other suggestions
[21:11] <shadeslayer> utdmr: login manager maybe
[21:12] <utdmr> i can see the theme in login manager but i cant see its background alone
[21:12] <sn00zer> utdmr: What is the theme's name?
[21:13] <athlon1> aldo: Have you solved the problem?
[21:14] <sn00zer> athlon1: aldo left the channel
[21:14] <utdmr> Oxygen
[21:14] <athlon1> Ok
[21:17] <sn00zer> u want is in /usr/share/kde4/apps/ksplash/Themes/
[21:18] <sn00zer> utdmr: that was for you, somehow the first part was cut off
[21:19] <siekacz> hello
[21:22] <kaddi_> !hi | siekacz
[21:22] <utdmr> thank you soo much snoozer
[21:22] <utdmr> i found this
[21:22] <sn00zer> utdmr: No problem.
[21:23] <siekacz> do you have any problem with strigi(kubuntu experimental packages)
[21:24] <`Alt`>  hi
[21:24] <legodude_> siekacz: it crashes all the time?
[21:25] <siekacz> yes
[21:25] <siekacz> i know what's the problem
[21:27] <siekacz> Strigi needs seasame
[21:27] <siekacz> and seasame needs closed-source java
[21:30] <william> are their source packages for kde 4.2 available
[21:33] <stdin> ForeverSmurf: add a deb-src line for the ppa
[21:33] <siekacz> how to fix strigi?
[21:34] <siekacz> in 4.1 it worked
[21:36] <ForeverSmurf> siekacz, that is what I am trying to work out
[21:38] <ForeverSmurf> stdin, how do I add a deb-src line for the ppa.
[21:38] <stdin> ForeverSmurf: it's the same as the line in http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2 except you replace the part "deb" with "deb-src"
[21:39] <stdin> ForeverSmurf: then you can just use "apt-get source <package>" and it'll download the source
[21:40] <ForeverSmurf> oh, ok. I did that
[21:40] <ForeverSmurf> now I just need to work out which package sesame2 is in
[21:42] <ForeverSmurf> it is really anoying, I read in lots of places that people have managed to compile soprano sesame2 from source but they never say how they did it!
[21:45] <siekacz> so they released not-working strigi
[21:45] <yaa_> good night
[21:45] <yaa_> everybody
[21:45] <siekacz> bye
[21:46] <UsErK|LeR> hello All I Install a Kubuntu In My Machine But Cant enter To Internet .... i have a root with 192.168.1.100 Ip and Switch After My Pc With 192.168.1.101 can u help me
[21:46] <yaa_> its unhelpable case
[21:46] <lovre> i have a huge problem. I tried to install a video driver (nVidia GeForce 7 series) that i downloaded from nvidia.com, version 180 (i had 177 before), and now i have problems with graphics, i cant use nvidia drivers, everything is messed up. How can i reset everything back to normal
[21:47] <yaa_> reallyit is
[21:47] <yaa_> ((
[21:49] <lovre> can someone help with this
[22:00] <szrhawaii> hey does anyone know how to swap out a usplash screen properly
[22:11] <fosco_> hi
[22:11] <kaddi_> !hi |fosco
[22:12] <kaddi_> how can i create a shortcut on the desktop in kde 4.2?
[22:12] <fosco_> i'm trying to compile a plasmoid for the first time and i get this error message ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in  /home/dani/.kde/share/apps;blablabla
[22:13] <fosco_> do i need some extra packages?
[22:14] <lovre> im back. everything is sooo messed up. i cant even turn on my comp, i hav to go dpkg-reconfigure xorg-conf or something like that
[22:16] <kaddi_> is there a way to report a bug without creating a new account and everything? plasma just crashed but I really don't feel like creating yet another account on yet another site
[22:19] <nonickname2> kaddi_: shortcut: that depends
[22:19] <kaddi_> nonickname2: on what?
[22:20] <nonickname2> when widgets are unlocked, you can drag some icon from kickoff onto the desktop for example
[22:20] <nonickname2> will have that handle then though
[22:20] <nonickname2> to rotate it etc.
[22:20] <nonickname2> you can also switch the desktop activity to have "normal" icons
[22:20] <nonickname2> then you cannot add widgets any longer though as far as i know
[22:21] <nonickname2> and then there's the folder view widget
[22:22] <bobbob1016_> My KDE panel is acting up, as in freezing.  It shows whatever apps were open when it froze, but if I click them, it reacts with current apps.  My K menu works, but the time is frozen, how can I restart the panel?  Google gave me "dcop kicker kicker restart" but that doesn't seem to work.
[22:22] <kaddi_> nonickname2: yes I know that one, but I don't want it. :p So there's no direct way to create/put a file on the desktop?
[22:22] <nonickname2> probably with switching the desktop type/activity/whatever
[22:22] <nonickname2> didn't try that one though
[22:22] <fosco_> kaddi_: yes, many ways, right clic on the desktop - add - application launcher
[22:23] <fosco_> but drag and drop from kicker is the fastest way
[22:25] <kaddi_> what's the command to restart plasmoid?
[22:25] <kaddi_> -.- add->application-launcher only crashes plasmoid on my pc :p
[22:26] <fosco_> try lancelot launcher plasmoid or any other
[22:26] <fosco_> any way to hide the yellow plasmoids desktop icon?
[22:27] <kaddi_> fosco_ my desktop just crashed and its all black now, what do i have to do to get my usual background back
[22:27] <fosco_> close session
[22:28] <kaddi_> got it: plasma worked :9
[22:28] <kaddi_> not plasmoid :p
[22:29] <nonickname2> fosco_: the one in the upper right corner?
[22:29] <fosco_> yes
[22:30] <nonickname2> there's a plasmoid for doing that afaik (o.O9
[22:30] <nonickname2> *)
[22:30] <nonickname2> you also could drag it somewhere else
[22:30] <fosco_> i know, just wanted to know if it can be hidden
[22:30] <fosco_> mostly for screenshots
[22:30] <fosco_> i don't like that icon :)
[22:30] <nonickname2> ^^
[22:31] <nonickname2> i think that plasmoid is experimental or so
[22:31] <nonickname2> the one for hiding the cashew
[22:31] <fosco_> well, no matter
[22:31] <fosco_> most important is that i can not compila a plasmoid
[22:31] <fosco_> I get this error message ERROR: cmake/modules/FindKDE4Internal.cmake not found in  /home/dani/.kde/share/apps;blablabla
[22:32] <nonickname2> well, no idea, never compiled a plasmoid up to now
[22:32] <fosco_> ummm
[22:37] <fosco_> sudo aptitude install kdelibs5-dev did the trick
[22:37] <fosco_> :)
[22:43] <cbwcjw> What the...
[22:47] <compilerwriter> Ladies and Gents is Kubuntu not supposed to automatically mount cd-rom drives when we put media into them these days or is that something I had set up and lost when I did a clean install?
[22:53] <Sp0tKubuntu> When installing Kubuntu, and choose manual harddisc partition, then there is alot of choices, / /home, and so on! Now i have made a partition for each one of them, is that stupid?
[22:55] <cadaverpimp> Is there an app that can mirror my partition? I got a new HDD and I want to leave WinXP on it (500GB) and put Kubuntu on the new drive (1TB)
[22:55] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have / = 15Gb, and /boot =5Gb and /home 53Gb and /tmp 5Gb and /usr 5Gb, and /var 5Gb, and /srv 5 Gb, and /opt 5Gb. and /usr/local 5Gb, and then /swap 5Gb
[22:56] <FatherCarbon> Sp0tKubuntu: you should really only need a partition for root (/), and optionally home (/home) (having /home on a separate partition is always a good choice)..and another partition for swap, you don't need one for each
[22:56] <zaapiel-mobile> sup
[22:56] <Sp0tKubuntu> FatherCarbon: Ok, but what if i want to save packets? Not only settings stored in home? Then i make a?
[22:56] <zaapiel-mobile> lalalala
[22:57] <FatherCarbon> what do you mean by packets? tcp packets?
[22:57] <Sp0tKubuntu> FatherCarbon: Appz and system settings there is NOT saved in home?
[22:58] <WaltzingAlong> Sp0tKubuntu: for desktop linux i have done both one partition for everything and split / and /home
[22:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> I have also before
[22:58] <Sp0tKubuntu> But i dosent save appz, only the settings for them
[22:59] <FatherCarbon> oh, you mean packages? well all your important settings and files will be on /home..downloaded packages will be stored somewhere on /
[22:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm ok, but where in root?
[22:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> Thats different from packAGE to packAGE?
[22:59] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-P
[23:00] <erle-> why are you using adept in kubuntu? it really sucks
[23:00] <FatherCarbon> usually /usr/bin or somesuch
[23:00] <WaltzingAlong> erle-: what do you suggest?
[23:00] <martijn81> is there a kpackagekit for intrepid available
[23:00] <Sp0tKubuntu> If i then make / + / home + /usr, then its ok?
[23:01] <erle-> i don't know but even synaptic is better, WaltzingAlong
[23:01] <erle-> WaltzingAlong, appearently it was more important for the kde crew to have a kde/qt-app
[23:02] <WaltzingAlong> erle-: user otherwise it means bundling other libraries just for that one program
[23:02] <erle-> WaltzingAlong, yeah, but adept is really unusable
[23:02] <erle-> it is ugly and user unfriendly
[23:02] <WaltzingAlong> erle-: yeah not a fan myself
[23:02] <erle-> everybody is not
[23:03] <erle-> the few kubuntu users i know install synaptic and firefox right after installing kubuntu
[23:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then make a even better one yourself? .-)
[23:03] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, i am not using kde
[23:03] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, it was just a suggestion
[23:03] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then dont whine? Or make it for them, help them :-)
[23:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> Im just teasing you :-)
[23:04] <erle-> i don't want to touch the c++ crap, sorry ;)
[23:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> :-D
[23:04] <Sp0tKubuntu> I dont have a clue about programming at all
[23:05] <erle-> i am just trying out kde4.2 / kubuntu jaunty alpha4 in virtualbox
[23:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> I just want to know wich dir in root to make partitions for saving downloaded and installed packages
[23:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> I cant playback DVD, only in Ubuntu
[23:05] <erle-> any dvd?
[23:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> KDE have problems with my chipset i think
[23:05] <erle-> or hollywood dvds?
[23:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> Any
[23:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> All..
[23:05] <erle-> with css copy protection
[23:05] <Sp0tKubuntu> Dosent matter
[23:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Have the css file, still lagg
[23:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Its a known problem with Santa Rosa chipset i surpose
[23:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> And KDE
[23:06] <Sp0tKubuntu> Because, when i boot Ubuntu 8.10, install 2 codes, it runs fine, no lagg
[23:06] <erle-> by the way, german localisation of kubuntu sucks, too :D
[23:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> And that from live CD
[23:07] <Sp0tKubuntu> The danish is "OK" but not totally good
[23:07] <WaltzingAlong> erle-: :(
[23:08] <erle-> but nice job, kde4.2 / kubuntu looks good
[23:08] <Sp0tKubuntu> Well. then i delete my system/disc again and start all over! See you in a couple of hours
[23:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Heey! one more thing i forgot! Is there a fix for 32 bit to run 4Gb RAM?
[23:09] <Sp0tKubuntu> Just want to know before i go 64bit again
[23:10] <Sp0tKubuntu> Nah, maybe i just go Ubuntu then :-)
[23:10] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, you can not have 4 gig ram in 32 bit
[23:10] <fosco_> Sp0tKubuntu: yes
[23:10] <erle-> because of crappy hardware design of pcs
[23:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Theres no fix?
[23:11] <erle-> this is not a software problem
[23:11] <fosco_> Sp0tKubuntu: you can manually recompile your kernel with activated HIMEM option or use server-kernel
[23:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> Hmm, in Windows u just have to get SP1
[23:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> fosco_: U lost me there :-D
[23:11] <Sp0tKubuntu> fosco_: Im new in linux
[23:12] <fosco_> that's the way it is :)
[23:12] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, it just displays 4 gig
[23:12] <erle-> it cannot use it
[23:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ahh ok
[23:12] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, this is just a fix for microsofts support problem
[23:12] <Sp0tKubuntu> Then i go 64 bit again! :-)
[23:12] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, everybody called them
[23:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> And install 8Tb RAM :-D
[23:13] <erle-> you cannot have that, too
[23:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> I know :-)
[23:13] <erle-> 256 gig is limit of amd64
[23:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> But thats the limit in 64 bit
[23:13] <Sp0tKubuntu> 64 bit = 8Tb RAM support
[23:13] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, yeah, but the memory adresses are just 40 bits physical and 48 bits virtual
[23:14] <erle-> no 64 bit adresses in amd64
[23:14] <Sp0tKubuntu> Divided?
[23:14] <erle-> or intel's copy
[23:14] <compilerwriter> Can one edit ones /etc/fstab/ and change the noauto to auto on cdrom0 and cdrom1 so that those drives will be mounted when one puts in media or will that cause issues and needless error messages on bootup if there is no media present.
[23:15] <erle-> Sp0tKubuntu, 40 bit memory addresses mean 1 terabyte ram possible
[23:15] <Sp0tKubuntu> Well. be back later :-)
[23:16] <Sp0tKubuntu> Ok :-)
[23:21] <novolinux> ciao
[23:21] <WaltzingAlong> novolinux: cioa
[23:21] <novolinux> solo inglese?
[23:21] <WaltzingAlong> si
[23:22] <novolinux> male per me allora ciao
[23:22] <WaltzingAlong> but there are channels for other languages too
[23:23] <matt123> hi!  Do you know if you still use fstab to manually mount a drive? or is there a new way?
[23:27] <Hardhead> I'm an Ubuntu user, and I just installed KDE Desktop to give it a try.  It looks awesome, but I can't get my dual monitor setup to work on my desktop.  No matter what I do in the Display setting, the monitors are always  clones of each other (I have a Thinkpad with a monitor plugged in, and it worked fine under the default Gnome).
[23:28] <astromme> Hardhead: You should be able to use the gnome tool if that worked for you
[23:29] <astromme> Hardhead: I'm not sure exactly what it's called but it's something like gnome-resolution-configuration or gnome-xrandr-something
[23:30] <Hardhead> Hrm.  OK, thanks.
[23:35] <Hardhead> OK... I have the monitor set at the right resolution, but I still can't get it to go dual setup.  If I go into the Display GUI setting, I try to set the built-in laptop screen to the right of the VGA screen, hit "Apply," and... it's still a clone.
[23:37] <blueraven> is kubuntu slower than ubuntu?
[23:39] <blueraven> hi itewsh
[23:39] <blueraven> this channel is all bots
[23:40] <blueraven> hi vince bot
[23:40] <itewsh> hu
[23:40] <blueraven> how?
[23:40] <blueraven> itewsh are you actually there?
[23:40] <itewsh> yes ?
[23:41] <blueraven> k, is kubuntu slower than ubuntu?
[23:41] <itewsh> hmm, it depends on the way you use your environment
[23:42] <siekacz> for me KDE is a little bit faster than gnome
[23:42] <blueraven> well, why would I want to use one over the other?
[23:42] <blueraven> just the way it looks?
[23:43] <itewsh> and the way you have to use it !
[23:43] <blueraven> so the interface
[23:44] <blueraven> mostly I surf the web, listen to music, and download stuff
[23:44] <tim56> hey i'm trying to install 4.2 and can't do step 3:
[23:44] <tim56> You can add the package signing key with this command:
[23:44] <tim56> gpg
[23:45] <tim56> but I get an error
[23:46] <itewsh> blueraven: you should try each of them and keep the one you'll prefer
[23:47] <lovre> erm, how do i change themes? (kubuntu 8.10)
[23:47] <lovre> i dont see themes manager in system settings
[23:49] <tim56> lovre: mines under -> look & feel -> appearance.
[23:53] <lovre> tim56: when you go in appeareance, what then? How do i install a custom theme to change complete windows appeareance?
[23:57] <tim56> lovre: my computers on the fritz right now (upgradeing to 4.2 at the moment) but i see both a "get new themes" and a "instal theme file" inside splash screen and icons tab. Maybe they are in the other tabs too (i'll check but its not working)
[23:57] <lovre> tim56: i see
[23:58] <lovre> by the way, how can i upgrade to 4.2? if its out of beta....
[23:58] <gorgonizer> lovre: there are instructions here: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2
[23:59] <lovre> gorgonizer: ok, ty
[23:59] <tim56> lovre: if I get it work properly I'll share how I did it.
[23:59] <gorgonizer> no problem, if you have any issues, let me know..